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To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.
what do women's lax teams bring to the table for their colleges?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what do women's lax teams bring to the table for their colleges?

The same thing as every other athletic program/sport at that school with the exception of football and basketball (if/for the schools that make money on these programs). An enhancement of student athletes, and the benefits from developing/fostering student athletes that bring with them to a university the values of amateurism and collegence. The military Academies are huge on athletics for the proven fact that many futre leaders emrge though sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

Let them start later and play 2-3 a week instead of these dragged out schedules
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

Let them start later and play 2-3 a week instead of these dragged out schedules

Hey lacrosse dad, your daughter is there to get an education right???? As it is, the top programs have way too much travel since so few programs are strong
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating

Have you been drinking?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating

Have you been drinking?

I get their point ... saying that they r not building an indoor football stadium etc. They r building an amazing 250 million dollar facility though that will also allow indoor lax games and seating for maybe a couple thousand.
BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.

So is Stony Brook. Your tax $at work. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by America's Game To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse. Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes! NU is building a beautiful indoor facility. So is Stony Brook. Your tax$ at work.
Any thing being built a S.B. is because of the money that was given to them by that hedge fund guy
I get their point ... saying that they r not building an indoor football stadium etc. They r building an amazing 250 million dollar facility though that will also allow indoor lax games and seating for maybe a couple thousand. [/quote]

Exactly, read their press release it is a practice facility for football with a full size field and only in extreme circumstances will lacrosse play games indoors because the field is narrower than their outdoor lacrosse field and will only have portable seating for 1,000 spectators. Still great to have especially in the windy winters
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse

College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

When I played ~15 years ago (ha!), we started much later yet still fit in the championship on Memorial Day weekend. Why the change? Conference tournaments could all be significantly shortened.
I think a lot of the predictions are based on recruiting class and on graduation of key players. I dont think the unproven freshmen class players should make such a difference this early on in the season.
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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?

SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern

Maybe not ND either - lucky to get a win yesterday, Stanford gave the game away. one of the rare occasions when ND out coaches anyone, cant see halfpenny lasting if this year is another debacle
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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?

SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.

Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!
ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?

SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.

Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!

Based on performance I think 11 is about right this time of year. Once they knock off a couple of teams and some of the Top 10 teams lose a few games I think SBU will have a legitimate claim to be ranked higher. Until they prove it on the field (i believe they will) it is all just hype.

Not sure that I understand your point regarding school size. "Mid major sized school" ? what does school size have to do with anything? SBU falls about in the middle of the schools listed in terms of size. Duke, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame and Loyola all significantly smaller enrollment. Also, not sure what you mean by "very small portion of the resources". I believe SBU is fully funded in terms of scholarships. Their facilities are very good (stadium / weight room etc..) Where are they falling short in terms of resources?
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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?

SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.

Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!
this probably will not make it to post because this board protects him, but J.S. is not respected amongst most D1 coaches

I believe they respect his ability to coach. Not sure how the feel about him personally but anyone who does not respect his ability to Identify talent, recruit, teach, prepare etc.. is not being honest.
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ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10

It's as expected. ND is better than Stanford. And Stanford is not top ten, sorry Stanford dad.
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ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10

Stop!
What's your opinion on D2 schools in the tri state area?
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What's your opinion on D2 schools in the tri state area?

Ranked by average SAT scores needed it would be- Adelphi, Molloy, New Haven, LIU Post and then Mercy and Dowling who's entrance requirements are so low they don't publish.

Lacrosse wise over the years it would be Adelphi #1 LIU Post, New Haven, Dowling, and then Molloy and Mercy ties at bottom

Adelphi is a pretty clear winner and has continued winning even after Spalina left for Stony Brook
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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern

Maybe not ND either - lucky to get a win yesterday, Stanford gave the game away. one of the rare occasions when ND out coaches anyone, cant see halfpenny lasting if this year is another debacle

So is Bokker a bad coach? Interesting. Some Stanford guy keeps talking about how great they r. Guess his daughter is going to be disappointed.
Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !
I would love to see Binghamton develop into a competitive lacrosse school for both Men and Women. I think it would be good for NY and our kids. Having Albany, Stony Brook, and a stronger Binghampton would offer our kids another college lacrosse, solid academic, and realistic financial opportunity for many of our kids.

There must be a bunch of "blue collar/middle class" girls/boys on Long Island and upstate that are solid lax players and students that might not be able to afford out of state or private school tuition that Binghampton could recruit.

Stony Book is dominated by Long Island kids, Albany is dominated by the Capital region, There has to be a ton of quality kids that could spill over on to Binghampton's lap.
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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !

Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.
Makes no difference regardless 1st game or 2nd , Syracuse 2nd 3rd or 4th line that program should be able to dominate Binghamton wouldn't you say ? Your willing to Bet sounds like this may have hit a nerve..lol .. Reality of it is all programs come and go in cycles . Stony Brook being one of them , as Northwestern was years ago.. its the luck of the draw for recruitment and team bond in any program .

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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !

Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.
Syracuse should have lit up the Bing. Syracuse better get it together quick as Bing is ranked closer to 100 than number 1 but early in the season a win is a win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes no difference regardless 1st game or 2nd , Syracuse 2nd 3rd or 4th line that program should be able to dominate Binghamton wouldn't you say ? Your willing to Bet sounds like this may have hit a nerve..lol .. Reality of it is all programs come and go in cycles . Stony Brook being one of them , as Northwestern was years ago.. its the luck of the draw for recruitment and team bond in any program .

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !

Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.

All bench players and freshman played the entire second game. Syracuse rested the big guns. Great to see all the girls get time in a day night doubleheader
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Syracuse should have lit up the Bing. Syracuse better get it together quick as Bing is ranked closer to 100 than number 1 but early in the season a win is a win.

The above poster is 100% correct..the top players for Syracuse stayed in their sweats for the game against Bing..i'm sure Gait to it easy on Bing. as you say a win is a win.. Treanor could have dropped 10 on Bing and ten gotten criticized for running up her stats trying to win the tewaraton award.
Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1

And there are 3 likely contenders this year ... MD, UNC, SYR ... I would place large dollars on one of those 3 winning this year.
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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1

Talent. There simply isn't enough to go around. That is why the Top Programs go after the top talent early. After the top 20 - 30 girls commit the talent level drops off (there are a few who are missed but for the most part the best players are identified early). Not all of the players at the top programs are studs. The programs number 1 & 2 recruits are usually significantly stronger than the 9 & 10 recruits.
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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1

Talent. There simply isn't enough to go around. That is why the Top Programs go after the top talent early. After the top 20 - 30 girls commit the talent level drops off (there are a few who are missed but for the most part the best players are identified early). Not all of the players at the top programs are studs. The programs number 1 & 2 recruits are usually significantly stronger than the 9 & 10 recruits.

Just look at Syracuse, can't tell me they are paying all 50 girls. Top programs all have the same cash, why don't girls go to lesser programs to get more $and then those teams would jump up to the top? Florida overpaid some and got close but it's still hard to understand the stranglehold on the championships by a couple of teams. Will the shot clock make it like the wild west and bring more teams into the mix? Power conference schools have way more resources Budget money uniforms etc Originally Posted by Anonymous Power conference schools have way more resources Budget money uniforms etc huh? all the top programs travel by coach or plane, all have all the gear they want, all have updated weight rooms, some have better stadiums than others but there has to be something else Funny thing about that statement is if stony brook played their bench warmers or freshman they would have still beat the snot out of bing. quote=Anonymous] Originally Posted by Anonymous Makes no difference regardless 1st game or 2nd , Syracuse 2nd 3rd or 4th line that program should be able to dominate Binghamton wouldn't you say ? Your willing to Bet sounds like this may have hit a nerve..lol .. Reality of it is all programs come and go in cycles . Stony Brook being one of them , as Northwestern was years ago.. its the luck of the draw for recruitment and team bond in any program . Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting ! Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action. All bench players and freshman played the entire second game. Syracuse rested the big guns. Great to see all the girls get time in a day night doubleheader [/quote] Hofstra was picked high even with their killer schedule so their game one loss to lowly New Hampshire really hurts Originally Posted by Anonymous Hofstra was picked high even with their killer schedule so their game one loss to lowly New Hampshire really hurts Not sure that they were "picked high" or that a loss "really hurts". You sound like a bitter negative person who has something against Hofstra. Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]Hofstra was picked high even with their killer schedule so their game one loss to lowly New Hampshire really hurts Not sure that they were "picked high" or that a loss "really hurts". You sound like a bitter negative person who has something against Hofstra. [/quote Lax Power has Hofstra's strength of schedule at #28 and Stony Brook at #106. This is the same thing that hurts Baylor in college football every year. I meant to thank you for this. Went with my daughter to Mercy and New Haven and she fell in love with Mercy. Very impressed with the business program and brand new facilities. Did not get the same vibe from New Haven, very low energy. She wants to go away but not too far, wish a SUNY had a D2. Still have time as she is 2018. What is a "normal" roster size for a D1 school? I was looking at Syracuse after all the talk about the Binghamton game and realized they have 51 on the roster. [quote=Anonymous]What is a "normal" roster size for a D1 school? I was looking at Syracuse after all the talk about the Binghamton game and realized they have 51 on the roster. [/ I believe an average d1 women's team's roster is between 28-32. Syracuse's roster is run more like a men's team. Big roster, starters, subs, practice team and extras. They do play more girls in most games than other teams seem to Originally Posted by Anonymous What is a "normal" roster size for a D1 school? I was looking at Syracuse after all the talk about the Binghamton game and realized they have 51 on the roster. Ivies carry around 28 Medium-sized programs 28-32 Vandy, Stanford etc. have 30 ish Big ones 32-40 ... NU, MD, UNC Biggest SYR 51 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous What is a "normal" roster size for a D1 school? I was looking at Syracuse after all the talk about the Binghamton game and realized they have 51 on the roster. Ivies carry around 28 Medium-sized programs 28-32 Vandy, Stanford etc. have 30 ish Big ones 32-40 ... NU, MD, UNC Biggest SYR 51 Small D1 programs like Brooklyn and St Francis carry 19-21 which is great if you just want to play! Hofstra will have their chance later this season to prove how strong they are. Hofstra and Stony Brook will play and we will see what happens then. It will be done the right way two teams on the field. Good Luck! Some schools take more on their roster knowing they will never see the field … and like syracuse get top tier players… but the effect is that those girls not in the top 20 on the Syracuse roster will never see the field FOR Syracuse… or AGAINST THEM. Get the picture? Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Originally Posted by Anonymous Some schools take more on their roster knowing they will never see the field &#133; and like syracuse get top tier players&#133; but the effect is that those girls not in the top 20 on the Syracuse roster will never see the field FOR Syracuse&#133; or AGAINST THEM. Get the picture? I was told by a parent of a kid on last years team that in the middle of the season around 10 girls were cut from the team. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Some schools take more on their roster knowing they will never see the field &#133; and like syracuse get top tier players&#133; but the effect is that those girls not in the top 20 on the Syracuse roster will never see the field FOR Syracuse&#133; or AGAINST THEM. Get the picture? I was told by a parent of a kid on last years team that in the middle of the season around 10 girls were cut from the team. Probably more like Dad wanted to her go to Syracuse so he could say she was on the team and she was on the bottom end of the roster with no scholarship. Then around mid season she realized the team and the coach controlled her life as they were pushing for a national championship. At that point they probably cut themselves and quit. Any girl that was used to being the "girl" and then finds herself not playing is a tough adjustment. I don't think people realize how much time the kids put in. Google the UNC lawsuit by players saying they were forced to put in 50-60 hours per week which deprived them of an education. That lawsuit led to a blind self NCAA reporting questionnaire sent to all D1 athletes in all sports where the average was 40+ hours per week with the team. This is why many schools choose your major for you. First time parents BEWARE!! Low D1, D2 and D3 might be better for many kids. Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]What is a "normal" roster size for a D1 school? I was looking at Syracuse after all the talk about the Binghamton game and realized they have 51 on the roster. [/ I believe an average d1 women's team's roster is between 28-32. Syracuse's roster is run more like a men's team. Big roster, starters, subs, practice team and extras. They do play more girls in most games than other teams seem to Most schools that carry large rosters don't travel with all their players.. some of those 51 players only dress for home games. I would guess like 25-28 travel to away games.. either cross town or cross country Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. I think parents would be shocked at the high level of lacrosse being played at the top of D3. Many of these teams would blow the doors off lower ranked D1 teams. Lots of club parents seem to have a snobbish opinion when talking about D2 and D3 lax when in reality many of these schools are just flat out better. When Spalina was at Adelphi his teams would have crushed many D1's and competed with most. When you read the earlier post about D1 athletics being a fulltime job 5-6 hours or training a day many should look at D2 and D3 Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. I think parents would be shocked at the high level of lacrosse being played at the top of D3. Many of these teams would blow the doors off lower ranked D1 teams. Lots of club parents seem to have a snobbish opinion when talking about D2 and D3 lax when in reality many of these schools are just flat out better. When Spalina was at Adelphi his teams would have crushed many D1's and competed with most. When you read the earlier post about D1 athletics being a fulltime job 5-6 hours or training a day many should look at D2 and D3 The "snobbishness" around D2 is deserved from an academic point of view. Most D2 schools are pretty [lacrosse] poor academically. D3 has some great academic institutions and strong lax. D3 also allows you to experience college fully, including going abroad for a semester if you choose. D1 and D3 are where it's at. D2 not so much. Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. So, we are back to square one with this topic. Just be happy where your kid is playing. Must we fight over everything? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. Post and Adelphi would win the D1 MAC and Patriot leagues easily. The Post win over Hofstra is against a top 30 team. Anyone can win on any day but it shows the D2 girls can compete. There is nothing wrong with D1 Wagner but D2 and D3 play some nice lax Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. Hofstra only played there starters for 10% of that game. Cent conn lost to brooklyn by a goal last year. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. I think parents would be shocked at the high level of lacrosse being played at the top of D3. Many of these teams would blow the doors off lower ranked D1 teams. Lots of club parents seem to have a snobbish opinion when talking about D2 and D3 lax when in reality many of these schools are just flat out better. When Spalina was at Adelphi his teams would have crushed many D1's and competed with most. When you read the earlier post about D1 athletics being a fulltime job 5-6 hours or training a day many should look at D2 and D3 As snobbish as saying you would blow the doors off of a lower D1, whatever makes you feel better though Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. Post and Adelphi would win the D1 MAC and Patriot leagues easily. The Post win over Hofstra is against a top 30 team. Anyone can win on any day but it shows the D2 girls can compete. There is nothing wrong with D1 Wagner but D2 and D3 play some nice lax "Easily" winning the Patriot League is a mighty big statement as Loyola (Patriot League champ) was ranked 11th in the country and beat Syracuse, Virginia and Hopkins last year. Quote Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. Quote Post and Adelphi would win the D1 MAC and Patriot leagues easily. The Post win over Hofstra is against a top 30 team. Anyone can win on any day but it shows the D2 girls can compete. There is nothing wrong with D1 Wagner but D2 and D3 play some nice lax Quote "Easily" winning the Patriot League is a mighty big statement as Loyola (Patriot League champ) was ranked 11th in the country and beat Syracuse, Virginia and Hopkins last year. Please don't ruin the delusion that D2 can compete with D1 with facts. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Adelphi still can their team the last two years and this season is very good! So where would Adelphi or the top D2 school start beating D1 teams? Would have to think they would have an easy go of it with D1 teams ranked 50-110 and would be competitive with some teams above that? Brooklyn played both Adelphi and Post this fall at Hofstra. 1 goal game against Adelphi, beat post by 3 or 4 Post played their bench for 75% of that game. Post beat Hofstra, Sienna, & Cen. Conn. that day. Post and Adelphi would win the D1 MAC and Patriot leagues easily. The Post win over Hofstra is against a top 30 team. Anyone can win on any day but it shows the D2 girls can compete. There is nothing wrong with D1 Wagner but D2 and D3 play some nice lax The Wagner mention came from left field. Did I miss someone say anything about Wagner? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. I think parents would be shocked at the high level of lacrosse being played at the top of D3. Many of these teams would blow the doors off lower ranked D1 teams. Lots of club parents seem to have a snobbish opinion when talking about D2 and D3 lax when in reality many of these schools are just flat out better. When Spalina was at Adelphi his teams would have crushed many D1's and competed with most. When you read the earlier post about D1 athletics being a fulltime job 5-6 hours or training a day many should look at D2 and D3 The "snobbishness" around D2 is deserved from an academic point of view. Most D2 schools are pretty [lacrosse] poor academically. D3 has some great academic institutions and strong lax. D3 also allows you to experience college fully, including going abroad for a semester if you choose. D1 and D3 are where it's at. D2 not so much. Thanks D3 dad. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Championship weekend returning to Stony Brook in 2018 - looking forward to it. Would like to see D3 join them as well. I thought Philly last year was great. I think parents would be shocked at the high level of lacrosse being played at the top of D3. Many of these teams would blow the doors off lower ranked D1 teams. Lots of club parents seem to have a snobbish opinion when talking about D2 and D3 lax when in reality many of these schools are just flat out better. When Spalina was at Adelphi his teams would have crushed many D1's and competed with most. When you read the earlier post about D1 athletics being a fulltime job 5-6 hours or training a day many should look at D2 and D3 The "snobbishness" around D2 is deserved from an academic point of view. Most D2 schools are pretty [lacrosse] poor academically. D3 has some great academic institutions and strong lax. D3 also allows you to experience college fully, including going abroad for a semester if you choose. D1 and D3 are where it's at. D2 not so much. Thanks D3 dad. No. Actually D3 player in my day and D1 parent. Whichever your choice and ability, go for the academics. And those are best at D1 and D3. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise. Just go to the academic rankings. It's pretty clear. So use lax skill to get into a great school and set yourself up for life. Did you really say Adelphi or Post could win the patriot league?? U are crazy. No way would that happen. I think the post was Adelphi (not Post) Adelphi has been a good team for years now and in Fall Ball they only would play D1 programs if possible. I will say it again, when Spallina was there and since they are a very good team and would be a very good D1 team. Many D1 teams can not beat the top D2 or D3 (top 2or 3 ) NOT ALL !!!! Take academics out of it but if you don't think the best D2 school beats the bottom 50 D1 programs I think you are fooling yourself. A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. No I don't think they do, maybe the bottom 10 Hofstra is talented, but very young. St times today there were 8 sophomores and freshmen on the field for the Pride. I suspect they will gel as the season progresses and win their fair share of games. But I'm really looking forward to next year. Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Some good matches today: Boston College Vs Notre Dame Stanford Vs Ohio State JMU Vs UCon All outcomes will impact the Top 20. After yesterday my top 10: 1. Maryland 2. Florida 3. Syracuse 4. North Carolina 5. Penn State 6. Boston College 7. Princeton 8. Southern Cal 9. Notre Dame 10. ?????????? Virginia, Stony Brook, Stanford, Louisville, UConn, Ohio State ????? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Some good matches today: Boston College Vs Notre Dame Stanford Vs Ohio State JMU Vs UCon All outcomes will impact the Top 20. After yesterday my top 10: 1. Maryland 2. Florida 3. Syracuse 4. North Carolina 5. Penn State 6. Boston College 7. Princeton 8. Southern Cal 9. Notre Dame 10. ?????????? Virginia, Stony Brook, Stanford, Louisville, UConn, Ohio State ????? So u have NU at least 17th. Please. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Some good matches today: Boston College Vs Notre Dame Stanford Vs Ohio State JMU Vs UCon All outcomes will impact the Top 20. After yesterday my top 10: 1. Maryland 2. Florida 3. Syracuse 4. North Carolina 5. Penn State 6. Boston College 7. Princeton 8. Southern Cal 9. Notre Dame 10. ?????????? Virginia, Stony Brook, Stanford, Louisville, UConn, Ohio State ????? So u have NU at least 17th. Please. and you can move ND up and drop BC out of top 10. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Some good matches today: Boston College Vs Notre Dame Stanford Vs Ohio State JMU Vs UCon All outcomes will impact the Top 20. After yesterday my top 10: 1. Maryland 2. Florida 3. Syracuse 4. North Carolina 5. Penn State 6. Boston College 7. Princeton 8. Southern Cal 9. Notre Dame 10. ?????????? Virginia, Stony Brook, Stanford, Louisville, UConn, Ohio State ????? So u have NU at least 17th. Please. and you can move ND up and drop BC out of top 10. Yes , I will. ND with a nice win. NU certainly in the mix with the teams listed. But duke win no longer looks impressive and loss to virginia doesn't look so good so based on games played and performance they are certainly not top 10 right now. nobody cares about your top 10 that you push your daughters team up in. Coaches and media poll matter Originally Posted by Anonymous nobody cares about your top 10 that you push your daughters team up in. Coaches and media poll matter Yeah, the coaches and the media are not biased at all. Originally Posted by Anonymous nobody cares about your top 10 that you push your daughters team up in. Coaches and media poll matter Wow very sour, how about refute or make a case for another team. Is that so hard? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... Why would girls trade one 20 something team for another. No one on hofstra is going to a team that will compete for a national championship Poll # 2 ... and I don't care if you don't care. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Penn State 7. Princeton 8. Stanford 9. Southern Cal 10. Hopkins 11. UVA 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Duke 15. Stony Brook 16. Penn 17. Louisville 18. UConn 19. Towson 20. Loyola Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... ...says a YJ parent. Originally Posted by Anonymous Poll # 2 ... and I don't care if you don't care. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Penn State 7. Princeton 8. Stanford 9. Southern Cal 10. Hopkins 11. UVA 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Duke 15. Stony Brook 16. Penn 17. Louisville 18. UConn 19. Towson 20. Loyola Hopkins too high. Stanford too high. James Madison should be in there, Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Poll # 2 ... and I don't care if you don't care. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Penn State 7. Princeton 8. Stanford 9. Southern Cal 10. Hopkins 11. UVA 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Duke 15. Stony Brook 16. Penn 17. Louisville 18. UConn 19. Towson 20. Loyola Hopkins too high. Stanford too high. James Madison should be in there, You might be right about Hopkins. Who would you put above Stanford? JMU just lost to Uconn. Some big games this week. upenn and SB should be ahead of Duke and UVA Those two teams(UVA and Duke) get so much leeway in these polls. SB started at 7 you don't fall to 15 having not played a game. Albany also was ranked and is out having not played. It's very clear your agenda Also Hopkins was 17/18 beat a very poor Rutgers team and went up to top 10 it's great if you do a poll but do it right Originally Posted by Anonymous upenn and SB should be ahead of Duke and UVA Those two teams(UVA and Duke) get so much leeway in these polls. SB started at 7 you don't fall to 15 having not played a game. Albany also was ranked and is out having not played. It's very clear your agenda Also Hopkins was 17/18 beat a very poor Rutgers team and went up to top 10 it's great if you do a poll but do it right No agenda. Stony Brook and Albany have not played a game yet. Penn played one game against a team not in any top 20. Trying to reward teams for winning and playing top competition. I kept Loyola in at 0 - 2 because they lost to Florida and Syracuse (could be 2 - 0 against weak competition). Loyola's next four games are against Hopkins, Towson, Penn State and Virginia. That is a challenging first six games. They also have Georgetown, Boston College and Princeton thats 9 tough out of conference games. Tough to keep SBU or Albany ahead of teams who have played 2 or 3 game against quality opponents. I'm sure there will be plenty of movement over the next few weeks as teams play more games. Originally Posted by Anonymous upenn and SB should be ahead of Duke and UVA Those two teams(UVA and Duke) get so much leeway in these polls. SB started at 7 you don't fall to 15 having not played a game. Albany also was ranked and is out having not played. It's very clear your agenda Also Hopkins was 17/18 beat a very poor Rutgers team and went up to top 10 it's great if you do a poll but do it right "Do it right" do you mean like the Media Poll on the boys side? The one who just ranked North Carolina ahead of Hofstra after Hofstra beat UNC 10 - 5? At this point in the season there is a limited body of work. Head to head should carry more weight. Originally Posted by Anonymous Why would girls trade one 20 something team for another. No one on hofstra is going to a team that will compete for a national championship Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you go to school for an education and maybe a great environment/experience? You are not trading a "20 something team", you are trading one University for another to prepare you for the rest of your life. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. How would they know she doesn't attend SH anymore. Just asking Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. How would they know she doesn't attend SH anymore. Just asking She still has friends on the team and has communicated as much. She herself has said that she didn't want to play for her cousin SS anymore in club going back to her freshman year. She wanted to go to YJ and her family wouldn't let her. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. How would they know she doesn't attend SH anymore. Just asking Still has friends on the team whom she talks and complain to. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. How would they know she doesn't attend SH anymore. Just asking She still has friends on the team and has communicated as much. She herself has said that she didn't want to play for her cousin SS anymore in club going back to her freshman year. She wanted to go to YJ and her family wouldn't let her. What a shame could turn her off to the game completely. Wait, Hofstra won the CAA regular season title last year. Lost an AA, and almost AA defender and a very good senior goalie. This year they started off 0 - 2. Based upon the last game, they start only (3) seniors with the majority of the others sophomores & freshman. I would expect them to be perhaps a sub .500 team to be honest. Based upon these facts everyone is bailing on the program? This is a work in progress and expect a bumpy ride. Instead of bashing how about throw some support their way Originally Posted by Anonymous Wait, Hofstra won the CAA regular season title last year. Lost an AA, and almost AA defender and a very good senior goalie. This year they started off 0 - 2. Based upon the last game, they start only (3) seniors with the majority of the others sophomores & freshman. I would expect them to be perhaps a sub .500 team to be honest. Based upon these facts everyone is bailing on the program? This is a work in progress and expect a bumpy ride. Instead of bashing how about throw some support their way BUt this is her fourth year and her first year with all her own recruits. If this is how she recruits, the program is in trouble. Originally Posted by Anonymous Wait, Hofstra won the CAA regular season title last year. Lost an AA, and almost AA defender and a very good senior goalie. This year they started off 0 - 2. Based upon the last game, they start only (3) seniors with the majority of the others sophomores & freshman. I would expect them to be perhaps a sub .500 team to be honest. Based upon these facts everyone is bailing on the program? This is a work in progress and expect a bumpy ride. Instead of bashing how about throw some support their way The majority of the people bashing Hofstra are mostly YJ lemmings. I'm not worried about ANYTHING they say. You are correct...HU is VERY young. SS will coach them up well, and along with next years class I think they will be very good next year or the year after. And, overall, the CAA is a little down this year. Its cyclical ( for you YJ lemmings, that means there will be highs and lows). JMU is 1-2. It happens. SS will build. Hofstra will be fine in the long run. YJ pukes. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous A bunch of surprising outcomes in today's games. A few that stood out to me were: - Harvard killing Hofstra - Florida pulling out a win over UNC - Drexel barely beating Columbia - Maryland killing Georgetown (expected Terps win, but not by so much) - Princeton beating Virginia by 7 (expected Tiger win, but not by so much) - Vermont beating Colgate I know it's not a men's forum, but also shocking that Hofstra men beat UNC 10-5 after Hofstra graduated a very strong class. Tough day for the Tarheels. Thoughts? Hofstra only being able to get girls on long island from their own club is going to really come back to burn them. 0-2 and they haven't gotten to the hard part of the schedule. Already hearing about verbals meeting with other coaches. And the walls, come tumbling down... The girls at Sacred Heart are saying SS cousin who was committed to Hofstra is talking to other coaches and has already de-committed. How would they know she doesn't attend SH anymore. Just asking She still has friends on the team and has communicated as much. She herself has said that she didn't want to play for her cousin SS anymore in club going back to her freshman year. She wanted to go to YJ and her family wouldn't let her. There is very limited room at YJ for goalies in this age group. A couple of the top goalies in the age group left TG to get a fair shake with YJ's. Although you would think CR would love to swing that trade, it will never happen. Lacrosse is a few years of a girls life, not worth the family rift it would create that would last far longer than a lacrosse career. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Wait, Hofstra won the CAA regular season title last year. Lost an AA, and almost AA defender and a very good senior goalie. This year they started off 0 - 2. Based upon the last game, they start only (3) seniors with the majority of the others sophomores & freshman. I would expect them to be perhaps a sub .500 team to be honest. Based upon these facts everyone is bailing on the program? This is a work in progress and expect a bumpy ride. Instead of bashing how about throw some support their way The majority of the people bashing Hofstra are mostly YJ lemmings. I'm not worried about ANYTHING they say. You are correct...HU is VERY young. SS will coach them up well, and along with next years class I think they will be very good next year or the year after. And, overall, the CAA is a little down this year. Its cyclical ( for you YJ lemmings, that means there will be highs and lows). JMU is 1-2. It happens. SS will build. Hofstra will be fine in the long run. YJ pukes. HA HA HA, Bet your kid plays for TG. Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. I think its the coach. not the players that is being bashed Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Wait, Hofstra won the CAA regular season title last year. Lost an AA, and almost AA defender and a very good senior goalie. This year they started off 0 - 2. Based upon the last game, they start only (3) seniors with the majority of the others sophomores & freshman. I would expect them to be perhaps a sub .500 team to be honest. Based upon these facts everyone is bailing on the program? This is a work in progress and expect a bumpy ride. Instead of bashing how about throw some support their way The majority of the people bashing Hofstra are mostly YJ lemmings. I'm not worried about ANYTHING they say. You are correct...HU is VERY young. SS will coach them up well, and along with next years class I think they will be very good next year or the year after. And, overall, the CAA is a little down this year. Its cyclical ( for you YJ lemmings, that means there will be highs and lows). JMU is 1-2. It happens. SS will build. Hofstra will be fine in the long run. YJ pukes. HA HA HA, Bet your kid plays for TG. No...my daughter does not play for TG. We don't even live in NY. I just happen to know the YJ agenda: Bash EVERYTHING that is considered a threat. Since HU is coacheD by a TG person, YJ lemmings feel it is necessary to belittle them. Its a rather egotistical, childish approach. I find it very unique. Over my many years as a club parent I would say the YJ parental units were the most obnoxious, loud, belittling, rules-ignorant, egotistical, etc, etc that I have ever encountered. One of the perks of my daughter being finished with her club career is that I do not have to listen to them anymore. Halleluja! Hofstra will be fine. SS is a good coach. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. I think its the coach. not the players that is being bashed Agreed. YJ parents have made it their lifetime job to bash SS. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Poll # 2 ... and I don't care if you don't care. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Penn State 7. Princeton 8. Stanford 9. Southern Cal 10. Hopkins 11. UVA 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Duke 15. Stony Brook 16. Penn 17. Louisville 18. UConn 19. Towson 20. Loyola Hopkins too high. Stanford too high. James Madison should be in there, You might be right about Hopkins. Who would you put above Stanford? JMU just lost to Uconn. Some big games this week. Yeah ... i dunno maybe JMU ahead of Towson/Loyola? I think Stanford is a top 15 but not top 10 program. I would not drop NU below 10 despite the loss to UVA. I guess I don't put quite so much emphasis on the results to date for some teams, while others I agree show some real value. But admittedly I'm talking about where I think these teams will be in the second half of the season. NU for instance likely loses to SYR and will 1-2. But I still think they are a top 10 team. We shall see. IWLCA Poll for Division I, February 22 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Maryland 2-0 400 20 1 2 Syracuse 4-0 375 3 3 Florida 3-0 344 8 4 North Carolina 3-1 338 2 5 Northwestern 1-1 279 6 6 Penn State 2-0 276 7 7 Virginia 1-1 268 4 7 Notre Dame 3-0 268 11 9 Princeton 1-0 262 12 10 Duke 2-2 223 5 11 Stony Brook 0-0 198 10 12 Southern California 2-0 180 19 13 Penn 1-0 153 13 14 Stanford 2-1 129 14 15 Boston College 2-1 124 9 16 Johns Hopkins 3-0 118 15 17 Louisville 3-0 91 17 18 Ohio State 2-1 54 16 19 Loyola 0-2 53 18 20 Connecticut 2-0 21 NR Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. I think its the coach. not the players that is being bashed Agreed. YJ parents have made it their lifetime job to bash SS. Is it because the best and most successful player YJ ever had left to do her own thing and didn't come back into the fold? IWLCA Poll for Division II, February 22 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Adelphi 1-0 398 19 1 2 Le Moyne 0-0 379 1 2 3 Lindenwood 2-0 360 3 4 New Haven 0-0 336 4 5 LIU Post 0-0 315 6 6 Rollins 1-0 278 6 7 Lock Haven 0-0 256 8 8 Stonehill 0-0 247 9 9 Limestone 3-0 242 11 10 West Chester 0-0 224 10 11 Grand Valley State 1-1 198 15 12 Florida Southern 0-1 185 5 13 Mercyhurst 1-0 163 13 14 Mount Olive 5-0 154 12 15 Seton Hill 0-0 131 14 16 Queens 1-0 116 16 17 Dowling 0-0 79 17 18 Bentley 0-0 69 18 19 Regis (CO) 1-0 38 19 20 Saint Anselm 0-0 21 20 IWLCA Poll for Division III, February 1 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Cortland 0-0 400 20 2 Trinity (CT) 0-0 369 3 Franklin & Marshall 0-0 368 4 Middlebury 0-0 339 5 College of NJ 0-0 309 6 Gettysburg 0-0 270 7 Catholic (DC) 0-0 262 8 [lacrosse] 0-0 242 9 Salisbury 0-0 237 10 Bowdoin 0-0 219 11 Tufts 0-0 198 12 Amherst 0-0 161 13 Hamilton 0-0 145 14 Messiah 0-0 110 15 Fredonia 0-0 106 16 Washington & Lee 0-0 104 17 Colby 0-0 89 18 Geneseo 0-0 54 19 St. John Fisher 0-0 49 20 Union 0-0 37 Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. I think its the coach. not the players that is being bashed Agreed. YJ parents have made it their lifetime job to bash SS. Is it because the best and most successful player YJ ever had left to do her own thing and didn't come back into the fold? I think you're correct. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be celebrated and congratulated. I think its the coach. not the players that is being bashed Agreed. YJ parents have made it their lifetime job to bash SS. Is it because the best and most successful player YJ ever had left to do her own thing and didn't come back into the fold? Another example of a director keeping a huge piece of the pie. Good thing she lets her coaches train on the side because she pays all the college girls peanuts. Just like the parents following the YJ's, there are tons of girls looking to go back and coach for her. They all deserve more but the YJ's have an unlimited supply of future coaches so she can pay whatever she wants. SS should have been locked up with the YJ's Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be youlebrated and congratulated. Most of you do not have any idea how difficult it is in this environment to be a NCAA Athlete on any level. D-1 and D-2 programs will own your daughter once she steps on campus. The recruiting process they will tell you we only practice a couple of hours a couple of days a week in the Fall and ramp it up once they come back to school after Xmas break. Here is the reality......Your daughter will start her days Monday- Saturday at 5:30 am for alternating workouts / training for 2 hours then she will have 20 min to run to class. Go straight from two classes to a 1.5 hour team practice. then run to her dorm to shower , grab a bite to eat then off to a 2 hour study hall or team meeting. Now that goes on for the entire Fall semester. So six days a week with every day going something like this.... Wake up, train, class, class, eat, practice, shower, eat , study hall, homework, sleep. Make sure your daughter can handle that schedule before you push her into something many of you could not handle. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be youlebrated and congratulated. Most of you do not have any idea how difficult it is in this environment to be a NCAA Athlete on any level. D-1 and D-2 programs will own your daughter once she steps on campus. The recruiting process they will tell you we only practice a couple of hours a couple of days a week in the Fall and ramp it up once they come back to school after Xmas break. Here is the reality......Your daughter will start her days Monday- Saturday at 5:30 am for alternating workouts / training for 2 hours then she will have 20 min to run to class. Go straight from two classes to a 1.5 hour team practice. then run to her dorm to shower , grab a bite to eat then off to a 2 hour study hall or team meeting. Now that goes on for the entire Fall semester. So six days a week with every day going something like this.... Wake up, train, class, class, eat, practice, shower, eat , study hall, homework, sleep. Make sure your daughter can handle that schedule before you push her into something many of you could not handle. Accurate and very true. Big programs have their girls for 5-6 hours per day 6 days a week and then they have to still stay eligible academically. Even though only a handful of teams have a chance at the national championship all the programs train like they do so just because you are going to a mid ranked team, don't think the commitment falls off Sounds brutal, don't know how 3000+ girls do it in D1 alone Yeah, will leave no time for lying around dorm room getting high and drinking beer....too bad. Originally Posted by Anonymous Sounds brutal, don't know how 3000+ girls do it in D1 alone Women probably handle it better than the boys...certainly more mature at this age. Sorry but you cant have it both ways when SS took over Hofstra the TG faithful were saying she would have them competing for a national title in 4-5 years, TG would be the top program on LI etc.. Seems like its going the opposite way. Difficult for her to attract the top talent from out of state and say what you want but YJ players just do not want to go there, she has an impossible road ahead.With the depleted talent pool of TG exactly where is she going to get her players from. I think SS could be an excellent coach but if you want to be a successful LI D1 program doing it without YJ is not easy. Remember the days when people were comparing Stony Brook with Hofstra. Agree 100% Women probably handle it better than the boys...certainly more mature at this age. You never hear the equivalent of "lax bro" for girls, do you?! Originally Posted by The Hop Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be youlebrated and congratulated. Most of you do not have any idea how difficult it is in this environment to be a NCAA Athlete on any level. D-1 and D-2 programs will own your daughter once she steps on campus. The recruiting process they will tell you we only practice a couple of hours a couple of days a week in the Fall and ramp it up once they come back to school after Xmas break. Here is the reality......Your daughter will start her days Monday- Saturday at 5:30 am for alternating workouts / training for 2 hours then she will have 20 min to run to class. Go straight from two classes to a 1.5 hour team practice. then run to her dorm to shower , grab a bite to eat then off to a 2 hour study hall or team meeting. Now that goes on for the entire Fall semester. So six days a week with every day going something like this.... Wake up, train, class, class, eat, practice, shower, eat , study hall, homework, sleep. Make sure your daughter can handle that schedule before you push her into something many of you could not handle. Accurate and very true. I'll add my two cents. D1/2 also leaves no time for other activities that the student may want to get involved in. This includes studying abroad. It is a huge commitment. Just over 50% of D1/2 students play four years of lacrosse. I'm following a 2013 club class and each year there are less students playing. Forget about students who are trying for difficult degrees. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by The Hop Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Do any of you people who continue to bash one collegiate program or another understand how difficult it is play a sport at any level in college ? I highly doubt it. In fact I would bet that none of you are parents of student athletes. If you are I would urge you to pick up the phone call your daughter and ask. listen to your athlete carefully and then decide if you still feel compelled to bash other young women like your daughter whom are very passionate about something they love. Whether at D1,2 or 3, Jr college or club these young women should be youlebrated and congratulated. Most of you do not have any idea how difficult it is in this environment to be a NCAA Athlete on any level. D-1 and D-2 programs will own your daughter once she steps on campus. The recruiting process they will tell you we only practice a couple of hours a couple of days a week in the Fall and ramp it up once they come back to school after Xmas break. Here is the reality......Your daughter will start her days Monday- Saturday at 5:30 am for alternating workouts / training for 2 hours then she will have 20 min to run to class. Go straight from two classes to a 1.5 hour team practice. then run to her dorm to shower , grab a bite to eat then off to a 2 hour study hall or team meeting. Now that goes on for the entire Fall semester. So six days a week with every day going something like this.... Wake up, train, class, class, eat, practice, shower, eat , study hall, homework, sleep. Make sure your daughter can handle that schedule before you push her into something many of you could not handle. Accurate and very true. I'll add my two cents. D1/2 also leaves no time for other activities that the student may want to get involved in. This includes studying abroad. It is a huge commitment. Just over 50% of D1/2 students play four years of lacrosse. I'm following a 2013 club class and each year there are less students playing. Forget about students who are trying for difficult degrees. In my kids school she was told what she could major in So are you all saying these coaches blatantly lie. My kid is going thru the recruiting process now and every coach has said they can do a study abroad program (may have to be over the summer). They also say that they can major in anything they want pointing out kids who are premed, engineering etc on their teams. Originally Posted by Anonymous So are you all saying these coaches blatantly lie. My kid is going thru the recruiting process now and every coach has said they can do a study abroad program (may have to be over the summer). They also say that they can major in anything they want pointing out kids who are premed, engineering etc on their teams. Summer abroad is possible and done. Tough majors are possible, despite what all these naysayers say. It is very difficult tho. So very few can handle it. PreMed typically has to take summer classes to get labs done. But on the strong lax programs w strong academics (NU, ND, STAN etc) there are current examples you can look to to say it can be done. At both NU and ND there are top starters that are premed and engineering. Stanford has a few but none are important players on the team currently. I'm sure as you comb through other rosters you will find a few. It is certainly the minority, but if your daughter is disciplined and academically gifted, it is possible and would be a great accomplishment. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous So are you all saying these coaches blatantly lie. My kid is going thru the recruiting process now and every coach has said they can do a study abroad program (may have to be over the summer). They also say that they can major in anything they want pointing out kids who are premed, engineering etc on their teams. Summer abroad is possible and done. Tough majors are possible, despite what all these naysayers say. It is very difficult tho. So very few can handle it. PreMed typically has to take summer classes to get labs done. But on the strong lax programs w strong academics (NU, ND, STAN etc) there are current examples you can look to to say it can be done. At both NU and ND there are top starters that are premed and engineering. Stanford has a few but none are important players on the team currently. I'm sure as you comb through other rosters you will find a few. It is certainly the minority, but if your daughter is disciplined and academically gifted, it is possible and would be a great accomplishment. For the lax studs or top academic girls any major is possible but coaches would rather not have to deal with difficult majors. Very few coaches will accept mid roster players to miss practices and travel so they can intern or go to a hospital as part of their major. Don't let a coach talk you into a major keep looking because you can find the right school Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry but you cant have it both ways when SS took over Hofstra the TG faithful were saying she would have them competing for a national title in 4-5 years, TG would be the top program on LI etc.. Seems like its going the opposite way. Difficult for her to attract the top talent from out of state and say what you want but YJ players just do not want to go there, she has an impossible road ahead.With the depleted talent pool of TG exactly where is she going to get her players from. I think SS could be an excellent coach but if you want to be a successful LI D1 program doing it without YJ is not easy. Remember the days when people were comparing Stony Brook with Hofstra. Between her and her father they are alienating people all over the Long Island Lax community. I think its the father more that SS. He is constantly bad mouthing other coaches at other organizations, HS's and other people who are solid people in third community. Heck he even bumped a club directors daughter because a bunch of girls from their town left TG and the Director wouldn't talk to the families for BS. Telling TG girls and their families not to trust so and so. He should keep his mouth shut because I'm his own words "he's to stupid to remember who he lied to", and he also is too stupid to remember whom he talked smack about. He has already bad mouthed a Hofstra Alum who has donated a lot of time and money to help build "The Mack". That person has already taken up the issue with the school admim. BS no longer allowed at Pride Club events. Not a good situation. Originally Posted by Anonymous So are you all saying these coaches blatantly lie. My kid is going thru the recruiting process now and every coach has said they can do a study abroad program (may have to be over the summer). They also say that they can major in anything they want pointing out kids who are premed, engineering etc on their teams. Some will let a student to take summer courses abroad. What I'm referring to is a semester abroad--which is very different than summer classes. Originally Posted by Anonymous Poll # 2 ... and I don't care if you don't care. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Penn State 7. Princeton 8. Stanford 9. Southern Cal 10. Hopkins 11. UVA 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Duke 15. Stony Brook 16. Penn 17. Louisville 18. UConn 19. Towson 20. Loyola Louisville at 4 - 0 will have a chance to prove themselves very soon. Next for games: Boston College, Notre Dame, Northwestern and Duke. these are just a few of the endless examples of how bad the sportsmanship, behavior, and level of class (hint-- really low class) the whole lax Mom / Dad community is. the arrogance and selfishness these parents & coaches display is a disgrace.. I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. says you! Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. Likely story, if your not a TG parent, your crazy. But your a TG parent, and your town probably starts with West (Islip or Babylon). Talk about Lemmings. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. Likely story, if your not a TG parent, your crazy. But your a TG parent, and your town probably starts with West (Islip or Babylon). Talk about Lemmings. Well, for starters, I'll give you credit for using 'your' correctly exactly once in your post. Next, I do live in NY and my kid doesn't play for TG. I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. If you look closely you will see that most D1 rosters have less jr and sr players - if you haven't seen significant playing time by then why stay and go through the grind of being a student athlete when there are so many other aspects of college life to enjoy. PS - the next ranked team Hofstra beats will be the first Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. If you look closely you will see that most D1 rosters have less jr and sr players - if you haven't seen significant playing time by then why stay and go through the grind of being a student athlete when there are so many other aspects of college life to enjoy. PS - the next ranked team Hofstra beats will be the first Only just over 50% of lacrosse student/athletes play four years. Is Notre Dame for real? They look very balanced offensively and defensively. Nice freshman contributions. Having SG in goal big boost for team. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. If you look closely you will see that most D1 rosters have less jr and sr players - if you haven't seen significant playing time by then why stay and go through the grind of being a student athlete when there are so many other aspects of college life to enjoy. PS - the next ranked team Hofstra beats will be the first Did Hofstra win ? I dont see any updates? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I just took a quick look at the Hofstra roster. 32 players were in the team picture and 30 are listed on the roster. Only 2 quit, which is typical of any college team. Every sport has players quit every year. Not newsworthy. Also, I looked at the makeup of their roster. 4 seniors, 4 juniors, 11 sophomores and 11 freshmen. There have been occasions this season when HU had 8 or 9 freshmen/sophomores and the field. Incredible. Considering how tough it is to win games, if the Pride finish the season at .500 I think most would consider the season a success. Then, wait for next year. All of that experience plus a solid incoming freshman class bodes well for the future for HU wlax. Thanks Top Guns parent. I'm not a TG parent, nor do I live in NY. Just did a little research to attempt to counter the ridiculous SS/Hofstra bashing that the YJ lemmings put out. Finding facts to rebut them is like taking candy from a baby. Too easy. If you look closely you will see that most D1 rosters have less jr and sr players - if you haven't seen significant playing time by then why stay and go through the grind of being a student athlete when there are so many other aspects of college life to enjoy. PS - the next ranked team Hofstra beats will be the first Did Hofstra win ? I dont see any updates? Lost to Fairfield Originally Posted by Anonymous I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. That video showed some very dirty and dangerous play by that young woman. I would be interested if someone got hurt if that would result in charges being brought. Hits to the head with a stick! Ouch! She is lucky that the players she hit are ok. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. I think a 1 game suspension for such dirty play is a travesty. The N.C.A.A. should be embarrassed for allowing the team and the conference to meed out such a meager penalty for such blatant disregard for another players safety. It's akin to allowing a child to give their own punishment for stealing cookies from the cookie jar. I.M.H.O. it was an assault, and if the same thing happened on the street that woman would be charged, so I ask, why is it differey that it happened on a sports field That video showed some very dirty and dangerous play by that young woman. I would be interested if someone got hurt if that would result in charges being brought. Hits to the head with a stick! Ouch! She is lucky that the players she hit are ok. Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. I think a 1 game suspension for such dirty play is a travesty. The N.C.A.A. should be embarrassed for allowing the team and the conference to meed out such a meager penalty for such blatant disregard for another players safety. It's akin to allowing a child to give their own punishment for stealing cookies from the cookie jar. I.M.H.O. it was an assault, and if the same thing happened on the street that woman would be charged, so I ask, why is it differey that it happened on a sports field That video showed some very dirty and dangerous play by that young woman. I would be interested if someone got hurt if that would result in charges being brought. Hits to the head with a stick! Ouch! She is lucky that the players she hit are ok. A one game suspension is disgraceful. The girl is a senior on that team. That should have been her last game for that school. Girl wasn't even involved with the play when she did it 3 times. What the [lacrosse] were the refs looking at? Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. I think a 1 game suspension for such dirty play is a travesty. The N.C.A.A. should be embarrassed for allowing the team and the conference to meed out such a meager penalty for such blatant disregard for another players safety. It's akin to allowing a child to give their own punishment for stealing cookies from the cookie jar. I.M.H.O. it was an assault, and if the same thing happened on the street that woman would be charged, so I ask, why is it differey that it happened on a sports field That video showed some very dirty and dangerous play by that young woman. I would be interested if someone got hurt if that would result in charges being brought. Hits to the head with a stick! Ouch! She is lucky that the players she hit are ok. One game is surely not enough. Amazing thing is no one sees this? I can't believe this was a "solo event"; she was having a bad day? Looks like a classless, dirty player. Originally Posted by Anonymous Having SG in goal big boost for team. Agree. Giacolone has given Irish something they have lacked. But I also like he balance up front and fresher Ortega is a big boost too. It's a long season but I like what I see right now. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I can not believe this site. I was with friends last night when there daughter sent a text about a player from Oregon purposely hitting a girl in the head 3 times, he writes a post along with the link that the opposing coach posted to warn others about this woman and these "moderators" don't publish the post instead continue to post drivel about a club team on a supposed Woman's college board. This site should be ashamed for not posting real news that more reputable sites like Inside Lacrosse, and Lacrosse Magazine both followed along with allowing the name, number, hometown and high school of the offending player. I think a 1 game suspension for such dirty play is a travesty. The N.C.A.A. should be embarrassed for allowing the team and the conference to meed out such a meager penalty for such blatant disregard for another players safety. It's akin to allowing a child to give their own punishment for stealing cookies from the cookie jar. I.M.H.O. it was an assault, and if the same thing happened on the street that woman would be charged, so I ask, why is it differey that it happened on a sports field That video showed some very dirty and dangerous play by that young woman. I would be interested if someone got hurt if that would result in charges being brought. Hits to the head with a stick! Ouch! She is lucky that the players she hit are ok. One game is surely not enough. Amazing thing is no one sees this? I can't believe this was a "solo event"; she was having a bad day? Looks like a classless, dirty player. She is a junior, FWIW. But I am wholeheartedly jumping on the "one game suspension is not enough" train. What that girl did was far, far outside the boundaries of decency. D3 is the place to be....you still have a social life, a true study abroad opportunity, likely will play all 4 years in college instead of quitting like in D1&2, work very hard at both practice and academically (just not 6 hrs a day). So much crap spewed by HS and club coaches. Daughter in her third year at D3 school. Started in 1/2 of games as a freshman, will now playing all the time as a jr. HaHa to all the suckers. Originally Posted by Anonymous D3 is the place to be....you still have a social life, a true study abroad opportunity, likely will play all 4 years in college instead of quitting like in D1&2, work very hard at both practice and academically (just not 6 hrs a day). So much crap spewed by HS and club coaches. Daughter in her third year at D3 school. Started in 1/2 of games as a freshman, will now playing all the time as a jr. HaHa to all the suckers. Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder about her not playing D1. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to post this on this site which is pathetic with the tone. Let each family decide what is best for their daughter, not black and white that D3 is better than D3, or vice versa. Also, you are just talking about the lacrosse and mention nothing about the quality of the academics. Makes you look bitter and small. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous D3 is the place to be....you still have a social life, a true study abroad opportunity, likely will play all 4 years in college instead of quitting like in D1&2, work very hard at both practice and academically (just not 6 hrs a day). So much crap spewed by HS and club coaches. Daughter in her third year at D3 school. Started in 1/2 of games as a freshman, will now playing all the time as a jr. HaHa to all the suckers. Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder about her not playing D1. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to post this on this site which is pathetic with the tone. Let each family decide what is best for their daughter, not black and white that D3 is better than D3, or vice versa. Also, you are just talking about the lacrosse and mention nothing about the quality of the academics. Makes you look bitter and small. Both posts make valid points. It really does come down to a family decision and the student's decision. I have seen so many mismatched students because a school offers some money but the school is all wrong for the student. There is almost a 50% burnout rate for D1/D2 students. It is a huge commitment. D3 may be a fit for many students. No athletic money at all but the schools will help with financial packages based on need. Schools that are competitive in lacrosse at the D3 level (NESCAC schools such as Amherst, Williams, Tufts, Middlebury, Hamilton and non-NESCAC schools such as Washington & Lee, Franklin & Marshall, Gettysburg) are very difficult to get admitted. You are looking at Ivy type requirements (some of the schools I mentioned are 'Little Ivies") so your child needs to have high academics. They are also very expensive. I don't think the reply poster has a chip on his shoulder but surely D1/D2 students are not suckers. Sit down wth your child sooner than later and talk about what they want from college overall. If they want to do a true semester abroad or are trying for a difficult degree (Yes, I know there are some who are pre-med and D1. Rare) and want to play lacrosse (or any sport) maybe D3 is the way. Some students don't want to live a way from home so a local school may be an option. There is no right or wrong, outside of giving the student the best chance of succeeding now and into the future. Back to the ugly stick work. Women's lacrosse should institute the progressive foul system like basketball. 4, 5, 6 fouls and YOU ARE OUT. Will get the hackers out of the game early so we can get to some fast paced action. Start cleaning it up or helmets will be here soon # 3 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Southern Cal 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Northwestern 12. Duke 13. Louiesville 14. Stony Brook 15. Boston College 16. Towson 17. Penn 18. UConn 19. Massachusetts 20. Loyola Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous D3 is the place to be....you still have a social life, a true study abroad opportunity, likely will play all 4 years in college instead of quitting like in D1&2, work very hard at both practice and academically (just not 6 hrs a day). So much crap spewed by HS and club coaches. Daughter in her third year at D3 school. Started in 1/2 of games as a freshman, will now playing all the time as a jr. HaHa to all the suckers. Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder about her not playing D1. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to post this on this site which is pathetic with the tone. Let each family decide what is best for their daughter, not black and white that D3 is better than D3, or vice versa. Also, you are just talking about the lacrosse and mention nothing about the quality of the academics. Makes you look bitter and small. Both posts make valid points. It really does come down to a family decision and the student's decision. I have seen so many mismatched students because a school offers some money but the school is all wrong for the student. There is almost a 50% burnout rate for D1/D2 students. It is a huge commitment. D3 may be a fit for many students. No athletic money at all but the schools will help with financial packages based on need. Schools that are competitive in lacrosse at the D3 level (NESCAC schools such as Amherst, Williams, Tufts, Middlebury, Hamilton and non-NESCAC schools such as Washington & Lee, Franklin & Marshall, Gettysburg) are very difficult to get admitted. You are looking at Ivy type requirements (some of the schools I mentioned are 'Little Ivies") so your child needs to have high academics. They are also very expensive. I don't think the reply poster has a chip on his shoulder but surely D1/D2 students are not suckers. Sit down wth your child sooner than later and talk about what they want from college overall. If they want to do a true semester abroad or are trying for a difficult degree (Yes, I know there are some who are pre-med and D1. Rare) and want to play lacrosse (or any sport) maybe D3 is the way. Some students don't want to live a way from home so a local school may be an option. There is no right or wrong, outside of giving the student the best chance of succeeding now and into the future. Oh Baldbear, you make too much sense. What is the purpose of paying thousands of dollars to clubs if you can't brag about your D1 prodigy? Sarcasm intended. I agree with you, but I bet the insults and put-downs are on their way. Originally Posted by Anonymous # 3 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Southern Cal 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Northwestern 12. Duke 13. Louiesville 14. Stony Brook 15. Boston College 16. Towson 17. Penn 18. UConn 19. Massachusetts 20. Loyola right now 'cuse over UNC, Loyola out until they can beat one of the bigs, Louisville over Duke and Northwestern, Stanford too high. Parity is getting closer every year Loyola is 1-3. I agree with a previous poster. They shouldn't be anywhere near the top 20. Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Was hoping Hofstra came alive. Truth be told I'm nervous, these are all girls SS hand picked and several of us bought into her "vision" and gave verbals but having second thoughts and considering D2 programs. Every D2 school has the major my daughter wants, a few are developing very nicely and extremely competitive. Have a few more years but will be weighing all options. Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. Also still UNC with 2 losses over 'cuse, both have played lower ranked teams and won, but 'cause without a loss and beating 2 teams that were at that time ranked (loyola and Northwestern) and UNC with 2 ranked loses, makes no sense Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense. Loyola came out of the gate with a very difficult early season schedule. Florida and Syracuse are Top 5 programs and then they played Hopkins and Towson both are competitive teams and they are also rivalry games for bragging rights on Charles Street which make them tougher then random games. Loyola's next two games are Penn State and Virginia. They could have scheduled some less competitive programs and have a 4 - 0 record. If they can win one of the next two they can stay in the top 20. Duke lost to Elon. Great win for Elon. At 3 - 3 Blue Devils need to earn consideration. I think they have to win at least 3 or 4 ACC games and all of their non conference games (unless Elon finishes in the top 10) to be in the top 20 at the end of the season. Not just wins and losses. Have to beat good teams and you cant lose to less competitive teams. Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. Also still UNC with 2 losses over 'cuse, both have played lower ranked teams and won, but 'cause without a loss and beating 2 teams that were at that time ranked (loyola and Northwestern) and UNC with 2 ranked loses, makes no sense North Carolin has lost to #1 Maryland and #2 Florida. They lost each game by one goal. That puts them at #3. Syracuse can jump them as soon as they knock off Florida or Maryland in the coming weeks.. Originally Posted by Anonymous Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in? Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1 So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field? These rankings mean nothing. Talk to me in June. Just people's opinions, have fun debating it, don't take it personnel. I don't think its that crazy having UNC #4, their 2 loses are to the #1 and #2 ranked teams. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in? Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1 So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field? I would bet we will see two or three of those teams in the final four. Syracuse, Florida also likely. Who are the other teams with legit shot at making it? ND? Who else? Originally Posted by Anonymous # 3 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Southern Cal 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Northwestern 12. Duke 13. Louiesville 14. Stony Brook 15. Boston College 16. Towson 17. Penn 18. UConn 19. Massachusetts 20. Loyola What poll are you using? IWLCA for 2/29/16 not out yet. I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. how can you keep Loyola in top 20 with 3 losses and only 1 win and drop Duke at 3 and 3, makes no sense. Loyola came out of the gate with a very difficult early season schedule. Florida and Syracuse are Top 5 programs and then they played Hopkins and Towson both are competitive teams and they are also rivalry games for bragging rights on Charles Street which make them tougher then random games. Loyola's next two games are Penn State and Virginia. They could have scheduled some less competitive programs and have a 4 - 0 record. If they can win one of the next two they can stay in the top 20. Duke lost to Elon. Great win for Elon. At 3 - 3 Blue Devils need to earn consideration. I think they have to win at least 3 or 4 ACC games and all of their non conference games (unless Elon finishes in the top 10) to be in the top 20 at the end of the season. Not just wins and losses. Have to beat good teams and you cant lose to less competitive teams. No it's not just wins and losses, by your own ranks 'cause has beaten 2 top 20 teams, Loyola has lost to 2 and an unranked team at the time, UNC has lost to 2 top 20 teams and beaten none so explain how they remain above a team with 2 wins against ranked teams, is it just because they are UNC. Why does 'cause need to beat 3-4 top 10 to get love but not UNC, they get it with loses, thats strange to me. New media poll is out and IMO very accurate IMO...There are 3 interesting teams: James Madison, Loyola and Hofstra. All 3 are interesting because they are not having good seasons so far. JMU is usually a top 20 team but so far they are 1-3. Loyola is 1-3. Hofstra is 0-3. All 3 will be fine eventually, but right now they are going thru a rough patch. Towson is interesting because the are undefeated, which is unexpected. Elon is doing very well. So far an interesting year. Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly Originally Posted by Anonymous New media poll is out and IMO very accurate Yes, more accurate than IWLCA Poll which has Northwestern #6 (1-2) ahead of Virginia #7(3-1). Didn't Virginia beat Northwestern head to head? They also have Princeton #9 (3-0) behind both Virginia and Northwestern. Didn't Princeton spank Virginia 14-7 recently? C'mon man Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Umass too high... IWLCA Poll for Division I, February 29 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Maryland 3-0 400 20 1 2 Syracuse 5-0 380 2 3 Florida 4-0 352 3 4 North Carolina 3-2 336 4 5 Notre Dame 5-0 300 7 6 Northwestern 1-2 287 5 7 Virginia 3-1 279 7 8 Penn State 2-1 257 6 9 Princeton 3-0 249 9 10 Stony Brook 1-0 205 11 11 Southern California 2-0 197 12 12 Louisville 5-0 170 17 13 Stanford 3-1 158 14 14 Boston College 2-2 125 15 15 Duke 3-3 122 10 16 Penn 1-1 120 13 17 Ohio State 3-1 77 18 18 Johns Hopkins 3-1 59 16 19 Connecticut 3-0 37 20 20 Towson 4-0 29 NR IWLCA Poll for Division II, February 29 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Adelphi 2-0 400 20 1 2 Le Moyne 1-0 374 2 3 Lindenwood 3-0 363 3 4 New Haven 0-0 342 4 5 LIU Post 0-0 315 5 6 Rollins 3-0 291 6 7 Lock Haven 0-0 260 7 8 Limestone 3-0 251 9 9 Stonehill 0-0 249 8 10 West Chester 1-0 209 10 11 Grand Valley State 1-2 205 11 12 Mercyhurst 1-1 198 13 13 Florida Southern 0-2 160 12 14 Mount Olive 5-0 137 14 15 Queens 2-0 107 16 16 Seton Hill 1-0 106 15 17 Dowling 0-0 81 17 18 Bentley 0-0 68 18 19 Regis (CO) 2-0 47 19 20 Saint Anselm 0-0 22 20 IWLCA Poll for Division III, February 29 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Cortland 0-0 400 20 1 2 Trinity (CT) 0-0 377 2 3 Franklin & Marshall 2-0 358 3 4 Middlebury 0-0 339 4 5 College of NJ 1-0 312 5 6 Gettysburg 2-0 299 6 7 Salisbury 3-0 287 9 8 [lacrosse] 1-1 252 8 9 Bowdoin 0-0 226 10 10 Catholic (DC) 0-1 220 7 11 Tufts 0-0 198 11 12 Amherst 0-0 180 12 13 Hamilton 0-0 154 13 14 Messiah 1-1 128 14 15 Colby 0-0 109 17 16 Geneseo 0-0 98 18 17 St. John Fisher 0-0 58 19 18 Mary Washington 4-0 45 NR 19 Union 0-0 30 20 19 Fredonia 0-2 30 15 You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag my daughter plays D1 but on none of those teams, nor on any of the top teams on any list. I, for one, do not consider it a "poll" as much as an opinion, thus the I.M.H.O. I don't think past years performance should be in any equation. What I do believe is that any team can change from year to year, be it the #1 or #107. Every year another school adds a program and gives girls more options in places to play. No longer are girls fighting for a place on a handful of teams, and fighting for playing time. Girls that developed later are finding quality time and making a difference on non traditional squads. I believe in the next few years the field will be a lot closer amongst all the teams. The bigs will still get the good players, but as time goes by, and those players aren't getting the minuets they want, they will go to other schools and improve many different programs. Just on my daughters team they have had girls transfer in and out from\to bigger programs. Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3. Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound?? Most rankings early are based on last season where my NOT favorite team Stony Brook beat NU Florida and smashed Notre Dame That is how a team gets a high pre season ranking. You also made me do some research on SB schedule their next four games they play the 3rd, 6th and 10 th ranked team in country in addition to Yale also noticed an interesting game with Stanford Not a bad schedule for mid major. Impossible to compare to a ACC or Big 10 schedule but you can only control what you can control. Regardless good for LI to have a college team that is relevant. Originally Posted by Anonymous Most rankings early are based on last season where my NOT favorite team Stony Brook beat NU Florida and smashed Notre Dame That is how a team gets a high pre season ranking. You also made me do some research on SB schedule their next four games they play the 3rd, 6th and 10 th ranked team in country in addition to Yale also noticed an interesting game with Stanford Not a bad schedule for mid major. Impossible to compare to a ACC or Big 10 schedule but you can only control what you can control. Regardless good for LI to have a college team that is relevant. You missed the point ... I'll try again. You have ranked Stony at #10 (i btw think they deserve to be there). But what have they done THIS year, as you said, to warrant that? The answer is nothing. U asked what NU has done to warrant a top 15 ranking and I told you. To good games against top 10 teams, one of which is a likely final 4 team, and a win against a good opponent on the road. Using your eyes, and little knowledge of the women's game, it would be silly to put NU outside the top 15. They may even lose to Louisville, again on the road, and that still wouldn't mean they are out side the top 15. Why, for instance do you rank Penn Sate where you do? They lost to Virginia by 3. Putting NU outside the top 15 reduces your credibility. I'm just trying to help you out. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3. Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound?? You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now. You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in? Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1 So after the bumpy start to the season. Would you bet on the five teams above or take the field? Coaching and Studs will have the teams above in the finals. Other teams can have some in season success but history shows they can't break through in the end Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out. All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1. So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out. All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1. So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun. Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3. Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound?? You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now. You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. Syracuse spanked today! Looking forward to the showdown on Sunday between FL and SB. Think JS may get a schlacking! This will be a very telling game! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3. Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound?? You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now. You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. ! Every roster is full of young [players! Syracuse spanked today! Looking forward to the showdown on Sunday between FL and SB. Think JS may get a schlacking! This will be a very telling game! Originally Posted by Anonymous Syracuse spanked today! Looking forward to the showdown on Sunday between FL and SB. Think JS may get a schlacking! This will be a very telling game! The Florida Syracuse game was as close as they come. A one or two controversial calls at the end could of gone the other way and Syracuse wins. Florida won a nail biter in the OT, at the end there was a foul call and the goalie wasn't in the net, Quick pass and score on empty net was the difference. Two very strong teams. Florida looked dominant for much of the game, but Cuse's defense went hard. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out. All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1. So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun. No contradiction at all. I said early in the season not "pre-season". Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. [/quote] ! Every roster is full of young [players![/quote] They don't start on every team numb nuts. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE I.M.H.O. 1. UMD 2. FLA 3. ND 4. 'cuse 5. Princeton 6. UVA 7. Louisville 8. UNC 9. Penn St 10. Stony Brook 11. U Mass 12. Stanford 13. So Cal 14. Uconn 15. Towson ok got it ... u r a NU hater ... Not a top 15 team? Silly What has N.U. done THIS year to deserve being top 15 Well have you watched their games? I have. They are a top 15 team. They have lost on the road at SYR by 4 and UVA by 2. They won on the road at Duke by 3. Last year they were 14-7 and were a final 8 team. When your favorite team, Stonybrook I'm sure, plays a real schedule, get back to me. What has Stones done THIS year, to warrant a top 15 ranking? See how silly you sound?? You sound very angry......why it's just my opinion. Yes I have watched 2 f the 3 games (not the Duke game, also not in my top 15) and I.M.H.O. they are not playing like a top 15 team, nor do I think they have recruited very well over the last couple of years so I.M.H.O. I think they are on a down slope right now. You also seem to make assumptions about people you have never met, so let me state unequivocally, I do not like Stony Brook or there coach in any way, so obviously my daughter does not go their, which should have been obvious when I said she does not attend any of my top 15 schools. You are quit obviously the parent of a N.U. student, or at least a rabid supporter of the program, so let me give you insight to my mindset. I am a fan of the game not to ay 1 school, I cheer hard for my daughter and want her to do well, but that measure of success does not hinge on how well her lacrosse team does in college. She has picked a difficult major that is frowned upon by most coaches, but still plays for a D1 team, and has played significant minuets, so I.M.H.O. she is already successful. She will leave school with a degree in something other than numbers and science, and will not have to do any additional years because she played the sport she loves. Will she win national championship...... no, but because of the hard work she puts in she's already a champion in my mind Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. I never said any girl was not a good payer, so what are you talking about. You really need to check your anger. I said N.U. isn't recruiting well, the group of girls they have recently recruited are not the as good as years past and I.M.H.O. will not be able to keep them in the top 20. I know that N.U. allows there players to take challenging majors, but you have to admit 17 of the top 20 do not, and if you don't YOU are the one kidding themselves. Many schools are playing young rosters, including my daughters team and with the addition of so many teams good players have the option to play and attend different schools, so what I have been saying is that any of them could surge far ahead at any time, or could drop just as fast. I personally find you obnoxious when you make it sound like a degree from the top 20 schools are somehow better than the bottom 20, it sounds like you are disparaging anyone not going to those schools when they are working just as hard in both the classroom and the gym. I am not angry at all i am grateful that my daughter is able to play the game she loves with good people at a high level that many girls that play will never know. She gets the added bonus of learning what it's like to take a team and build it through hard work Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Duke lost to Elon , which also takes away from USC win, pen state lost drop them down 3/4 spots Princeton 1 goal win over unranked Georgetown. Got it, missed Elon over Duke. That changes some things. 1. MD 2. Florida 3. Notre Dame 4. UNC 5. Syracuse 6. Princeton 7. Stanford 8. Louisville 9. Virginia 10. Penn State 11. Stony Brook 12. Northwestern 13. Boston College 14. Towson 15. UConn 16. Massachusetts 17. Southern Cal 18. Vanderbilt 19. Elon 20. Loyola Hopkins, Penn and Duke all out of the top 20 for now. Most accurate ranking of all. Wasn't Denver supposed to crack it this year like the men? Don't count Duke out they are too good. Has to be a chemistry thing early Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out. All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1. So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun. No contradiction at all. I said early in the season not "pre-season". At what point is "early in the season" over? After how many games is it no longer early in the season? Duke played a lot of games early and has fallen in the polls. Stony Brook played their first game on 2/28. The first couple of polls will be based on last year unless a team had a tremendous roster turnover. Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by baldbear Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous You people with your make believe polls that bolster your daughters team is real sad state of affairs. Leave the polls alone there are three different ones that matter Louisville at 7 UVA at 6 Princeton all the way up to 5 after the really impressive one goal win over a poor unranked Georgetown team. Lololo Agenda driven Stick to these Iwlca coaches poll Media poll Nike lax mag IWLCA is a joke. Early in the season polls should be based on actual performance not the previous season. As the year progresses the teams body of work is what should be considered. Duke lost to Elon and is 3 - 3. Sorry but based on YTD performance they should not be in the top 20. Tell me, if Rutgers, Umass, Villanova or Harvard had the exact same results as Duke would they be ranked? Virginia is 3-1 and beat a 1-2 Northwestern team yet somehow NU is ranked ahead of UVA. Princeton is 3-0 and beat Virginia by 7 goals yet Cav's are ranked 2 slots higher than the Tigers. Not sure Ohio State should be in there either based on there YTD SOS and performance. Questioning Stony Brook as well. Although I think they are a Top 10 team they have not done anything yet. Most teams have played between 3 and 5 games so far. I have a hard time giving credit to a team who has only played one game against a less competitive opponent. You contradict yourself. How can early season polls be based on actual performance and then as the season progresses you base it on the body of work? There is no body of work early in the season so prior year (which includes returning players, recruiting an impact player as well) has to be the gauge to rank. As the teams play then the poll sorts itself out. All polls, for any sport, start with the expectation of how a team will play. In D1 basketball Kentucky was ranked #1 early in the season but is now #22. Villanova was ranked #11 at the beginning of the season and was ranked #1. So you are half right--as the teams play their games the polls will correct themselves. You have to also know polls were created for the sake of folks debating (arguing?). It's all good fun. No contradiction at all. I said early in the season not "pre-season". At what point is "early in the season" over? After how many games is it no longer early in the season? Duke played a lot of games early and has fallen in the polls. Stony Brook played their first game on 2/28. The first couple of polls will be based on last year unless a team had a tremendous roster turnover. I would say once the season begins "pre-season" poll's are out the window. Poll's and rankings should be based on actual results (not on prior year). If a team were ranked #1 pre-season but lost their first game they would not and should not be ranked #1 the following week. Early in the season head to head matters more than it does later in the season. If Duke were 12 - 1 and lost to Elon who was 5 - 6 and not in the top 20 I would keep duke ranked above Elon. However with a limited body of work early in the season you have to rank based on actual results. Stony Brook has played one game against a less competitive team you cant rank them ahead of teams that have played 3, 4 or 5 games against some tough competition. Originally Posted by Anonymous Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. ! Every roster is full of young [players![/quote] They don't start on every team numb nuts. [/quote] Florida. BC. Cuse. ND. etc all have freshman starting and doing quit well Take it easy, your getting all worked up for no reason. Who cares about a poll on a forum. You made your point, no need to have a heart attack over it. What's going on at JMU and Loyola? Both are traditionally strong programs and both are struggling at 1-3. And, what about Johns Hopkins? They are 3-1, but their three wins were against weak teams (only 4 wins between them) and then they lost to a weak Loyola team. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. ! Every roster is full of young [players! They don't start on every team numb nuts. [/quote] Florida. BC. Cuse. ND. etc all have freshman starting and doing quit well[/quote] Um BC got slapped by ND 14-4 and lost to Louisville. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. ! Every roster is full of young [players! They don't start on every team numb nuts. Florida. BC. Cuse. ND. etc all have freshman starting and doing quit well[/quote] Um BC got slapped by ND 14-4 and lost to Louisville. [/quote]and ND has 2 starting frosh including the goalie whats your point, our point is NU is not playing as well and should not be top 15 Originally Posted by Anonymous What's going on at JMU and Loyola? Both are traditionally strong programs and both are struggling at 1-3. And, what about Johns Hopkins? They are 3-1, but their three wins were against weak teams (only 4 wins between them) and then they lost to a weak Loyola team. Maybe I am wrong but I view this as a transparent attempt to bash Loyola. What is the agenda? In one sentence you say Loyola is struggling because they are 1 - 3 (you must know that their YTD SOS has been as tough as anyone's. #2 Syracuse, #3 Florida, #17 Towson and #16/18 Hopkins). Both the Hopkins and Towson games are extra competitive as the schools are all within a few miles of each other, the games are spirited and played for bragging rights. In the next sentence you attempt to diminish their win over Hopkins by pointing out that JHU is 3 - 1 (now 3-2 W/loss to PSU) but their record is irrelevant because they beat weak teams. I commend Loyola for challenging themselves with such a demanding out of conference schedule. They could go 1 -5 considering their next two games are Penn State and Virginia. Even at 1 - 5 I would give them consideration for the top 20 over a teams that have winning records but have weak schedules. So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Might you be the one who sounds angry? No parent of an NU student here. You don't think they have recruited well? They have a great group of young players. That is why they r "struggling", they r playing a ton of young players. I do always find it interesting when parents like to make backhanded digs at other kids like you just did. Basically saying that any kid who plays at a place like NU (or any other top lax program) is majoring in "numbers and science". Hate to inform you, but there are plenty of kids both playing high level lax and getting great degrees. Nobody said anything about your daughter. You are the only one here putting impressive young women down. Shame on you. ! Every roster is full of young [players! They don't start on every team numb nuts. Florida. BC. Cuse. ND. etc all have freshman starting and doing quit well Um BC got slapped by ND 14-4 and lost to Louisville. [/quote]and ND has 2 starting frosh including the goalie whats your point, our point is NU is not playing as well and should not be top 15[/quote] My point is that NU is most definitely a top 15 team. I have yet to see you make the point that they are not. You are just stating it without any fact. Happy to hear the case. Lay it out. If you have watched their games I think you would conclude they are a top 15 team. They are not a top 5 team. But what have you seen that makes you think they are not top 15? Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Officiating has never been worse and bad officiating is deciding waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many games.If you are going to be horrible, just let the game play out and don't be the deciding factor. How about we just focus on getting the hatchet girls out of the games? That should be an easy one and they can't even get that right But some teams still continue to try to cheat with illegal sticks and then cry and try to weasel there way out when the refs call them for it! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Officiating has never been worse and bad officiating is deciding waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many games.If you are going to be horrible, just let the game play out and don't be the deciding factor. How about we just focus on getting the hatchet girls out of the games? That should be an easy one and they can't even get that right Personal and Team foul limits would help a lot. Also, Red Cards are there for a reason. Use them when they are called for. Have never seen one used and have seen plenty of situations where they could have been. If the penalty is strong enough, the fouls will slow down and the game will flow much better. I don't think the solution is to just call less and let the game get even more physical. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Officiating has never been worse and bad officiating is deciding waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many games.If you are going to be horrible, just let the game play out and don't be the deciding factor. How about we just focus on getting the hatchet girls out of the games? That should be an easy one and they can't even get that right Personal and Team foul limits would help a lot. Also, Red Cards are there for a reason. Use them when they are called for. Have never seen one used and have seen plenty of situations where they could have been. If the penalty is strong enough, the fouls will slow down and the game will flow much better. I don't think the solution is to just call less and let the game get even more physical. I agree with the person fouls, it should be like basketball, 5 personals (pushing, tripping, cross check, illegal stick check checking across the body, in the sphere) and your out of the game. inadvertent contact to the head and uncontrolled checks are a yellow card, two yellows and your out of the game. Deliberate or serious contact to a player anywhere on the body is a red card. allow movement of all players on stopped play like the mens game and really inform the 4 meter space that must be given and restart by the ref as soon as the ball is in the cross, just like the mens game, this fast start sucks. Stop penalizing the offense with obstruction, have the continuation of the play, in no other game is the offense penalized for a defensive foul, so long as the shot is dangerous the shot should count, HANG THE DAMB FLAG And can we please keep it to 3 women in the midfield until there is possession on a draw It seems that the NU doubters have been proven right! Louisville embarrassed them today - where do you rank them now? Originally Posted by Anonymous It seems that the NU doubters have been proven right! Louisville embarrassed them today - where do you rank them now? i said Louisville will likely beat them. I agree that this was worse offensively than i thought it would be. I think Louisville is a top 8 team. I'm not arguing that NU is a top 8 team. Just still don't think they r below 15. Lets see. They have played four teams (3 top 10) on the road. I think they will prove to be exactly what I think they are. A good, not great, team that finishes the season above 15 rank. I guess we will have to see. how about offsides!!!! Make that a serious call maybe 30 seconds man down. I know thats the mens game Originally Posted by MKVELE And can we please keep it to 3 women in the midfield until there is possession on a draw Amen Brother Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Officiating has never been worse and bad officiating is deciding waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many games.If you are going to be horrible, just let the game play out and don't be the deciding factor. How about we just focus on getting the hatchet girls out of the games? That should be an easy one and they can't even get that right Personal and Team foul limits would help a lot. Also, Red Cards are there for a reason. Use them when they are called for. Have never seen one used and have seen plenty of situations where they could have been. If the penalty is strong enough, the fouls will slow down and the game will flow much better. I don't think the solution is to just call less and let the game get even more physical. Couldn't agree more with team and personal foul caps. Get back to playing the game and take the ticky tack fouls out of the game. Will mess with some coaches and some players that love swinging the stick Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... Officiating has never been worse and bad officiating is deciding waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many games.If you are going to be horrible, just let the game play out and don't be the deciding factor. How about we just focus on getting the hatchet girls out of the games? That should be an easy one and they can't even get that right Personal and Team foul limits would help a lot. Also, Red Cards are there for a reason. Use them when they are called for. Have never seen one used and have seen plenty of situations where they could have been. If the penalty is strong enough, the fouls will slow down and the game will flow much better. I don't think the solution is to just call less and let the game get even more physical. Couldn't agree more with team and personal foul caps. Get back to playing the game and take the ticky tack fouls out of the game. Will mess with some coaches and some players that love swinging the stick 10 yellow cards in NU Louisville game Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done that was funny ... i'm the original NU poster. There have been some others apparently. I will concede to you for now Out of curiosity, what team does your daughter play for? Or league if that is less revealing? Looking forward to the SB game on Sunday. Will be revealing. Have the feeling someone may be overrated! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done that was funny ... i'm the original NU poster. There have been some others apparently. I will concede to you for now Out of curiosity, what team does your daughter play for? Or league if that is less revealing? what do you think I am stupid. Suffice to say that her team is in the bottom half but working hard to advance, like many others. every year it gets closer for every team Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done that was funny ... i'm the original NU poster. There have been some others apparently. I will concede to you for now Out of curiosity, what team does your daughter play for? Or league if that is less revealing? what do you think I am stupid. Suffice to say that her team is in the bottom half but working hard to advance, like many others. every year it gets closer for every team no it doesn't Originally Posted by Anonymous Looking forward to the SB game on Sunday. Will be revealing. Have the feeling someone may be overrated! Who ? It's #10 vs #2 (3 but beat Cuse) this week. Based on that Florida should win by 4/5 goals Stony Brook is a real tough athletic well coached team that certainly won't roll over. Neither team is overrated bot teams rankings to me seem very accurate Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done Why are you personally attacking a kid? Could it be some jealousy or are you just that much of a coward. If its the kid I think you are talking about then you may want to get some help i.e. medication because she will ALWAYS be a better athlete and student than your daughter. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done that was funny ... i'm the original NU poster. There have been some others apparently. I will concede to you for now Out of curiosity, what team does your daughter play for? Or league if that is less revealing? what do you think I am stupid. Suffice to say that her team is in the bottom half but working hard to advance, like many others. every year it gets closer for every team no it doesn't do you even look at the scores or do you just look at the top 10 and see that they are beating every one, Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done You have issues. Clearly have some inferiority complex. I hope your daughter isn't as angry as you are that she couldn't compete with whoever it is you are tlking about. Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done that was funny ... i'm the original NU poster. There have been some others apparently. I will concede to you for now Out of curiosity, what team does your daughter play for? Or league if that is less revealing? what do you think I am stupid. Suffice to say that her team is in the bottom half but working hard to advance, like many others. every year it gets closer for every team You spent an awful lot of time analyzing the top 20 with a daughter in the bottom half of the country. Get a life - or at least a job! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done You have issues. Clearly have some inferiority complex. I hope your daughter isn't as angry as you are that she couldn't compete with whoever it is you are tlking about. I don't have an inferiority complex, I know just where I stand in the world and I am fine with it. I unlike most people on this site that are afraid to assign a name to there thoughts, don't need to live my life through my daughter, her success, or the name of a school. I don't judge person, a team or a school by a teams ability to put a ball in a net. If you were paying attention I had clearly moved on from the rantings of the above mentioned people, it was them\you that couldn't handle an opinion of a nobody that will not agree your opinion of how fantastic a team is or isn't. But in the end I stand by my statement, wether you like it or not. By the way not only do I think NU isn't a top 20, I don't think there a top 30 Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done You have issues. Clearly have some inferiority complex. I hope your daughter isn't as angry as you are that she couldn't compete with whoever it is you are tlking about. I don't have an inferiority complex, I know just where I stand in the world and I am fine with it. I unlike most people on this site that are afraid to assign a name to there thoughts, don't need to live my life through my daughter, her success, or the name of a school. I don't judge person, a team or a school by a teams ability to put a ball in a net. If you were paying attention I had clearly moved on from the rantings of the above mentioned people, it was them\you that couldn't handle an opinion of a nobody that will not agree your opinion of how fantastic a team is or isn't. But in the end I stand by my statement, wether you like it or not. By the way not only do I think NU isn't a top 20, I don't think there a top 30 DELETED Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by MKVELE Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=MKVELE]So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap.... UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list. 1. Northwestern 2. Northwestern 3. Northwestern 4. Northwestern 5. Northwestern 6. wait there is no one els list done You have issues. Clearly have some inferiority complex. I hope your daughter isn't as angry as you are that she couldn't compete with whoever it is you are tlking about. I don't have an inferiority complex, I know just where I stand in the world and I am fine with it. I unlike most people on this site that are afraid to assign a name to there thoughts, don't need to live my life through my daughter, her success, or the name of a school. I don't judge person, a team or a school by a teams ability to put a ball in a net. If you were paying attention I had clearly moved on from the rantings of the above mentioned people, it was them\you that couldn't handle an opinion of a nobody that will not agree your opinion of how fantastic a team is or isn't. But in the end I stand by my statement, wether you like it or not. By the way not only do I think NU isn't a top 20, I don't think there a top 30 DELETED Anyone know how Hofstra did today? How about a big hand for all the freshman representing LI, with some outstanding play, at the highest level. Really good showing so far. Congratulations to all. Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5. Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? 5 Hofstra 15 Maryland Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? TERRIBLE Originally Posted by MKVELE One last thing NU lost to both teams they suck just like your daughter did in HS. so no go complain about that to everyone that will listen It's very strange. NU is a much much much better school than where your daughter is attending. And it's much much much better at lacrosse. So a student athlete there is BOTH getting a better education AND a better lacrosse experience. You, my friend, are one jealous man. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5. Serious question please don't get nasty- since SS hand picked this roster, and With the graduate player dominating and the considering the current losing streak, should a verbal recruit consider other options? Just doesn't seem like there is any teamwork, more like run to the goal. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5. Serious question please don't get nasty- since SS hand picked this roster, and With the graduate player dominating and the considering the current losing streak, should a verbal recruit consider other options? Just doesn't seem like there is any teamwork, more like run to the goal. No reason to panic on Hofstra, no matter what the YJ people might imply. The roster is dominated by sophomores and freshmen. This occurs from time to time in every sport in college. Next year and the year after will be much better. Why isn't anyone talking about the weak performance of Navy (dominated by BC), or JMU (barely beat Denver), or Johns Hopkins (lost to Ohio State) or any other team that isn't playing up to their usual standards? Of course, as we all know, it's the YJ pukes trying to stir up a bunch of crap. Childish and silly behavior. Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? Why don't you ask CR? Isn't that where all you YJ'ers get your marching orders and information. Georgetown is 0-4. Ask CR for permission to bash them. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Anyone know how Hofstra did today? I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5. Serious question please don't get nasty- since SS hand picked this roster, and With the graduate player dominating and the considering the current losing streak, should a verbal recruit consider other options? Just doesn't seem like there is any teamwork, more like run to the goal. That's how SS played the game, but her recruits aren't up to the challenge, she cant or wont ever adjust, keep pounding a square peg into a round hole and let me know how it works out. I believe the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result - that's her coaching style Originally Posted by Anonymous DELETED Remember a degree from Stanford, NU, Harvard is WAYYYYY better than wherever your daughter is scraping by at. Sorry bud, but your daughter will be working for mine. you're spending$60,000.00 for a liberal arts major,Your best hope is that she meets a man that can stand to be with her for more than a minuet at a time, but if she's anything like her mother that isn't going to happen. She obviously gets her intelligence from her mother also, what dope would drop that much money and on Liberal Arts. My daughter has a real major that your daughter could't handle alone, never mind play lacrosse at the same time, and she will not be going into the demanding field of Liberal Arts like yours is so the chances oh my kid working for yours is very remote. But that was a predictable response from a NU parent, snobbish and boorish, You think because your little darling goes to a school it will automatically equal success....... we'll see what happens when mommy has to stop lobbying for everything for her and she needs to stand on her own. The good news for her is when you finally expire, like we all will, hopefully you and your "husband" leave her a good inheritance, maybe then he will become attractive enough to land a husband
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
One last thing NU lost to both teams they suck just like your daughter did in HS. so no go complain about that to everyone that will listen

It's very strange. NU is a much much much better school than where your daughter is attending. And it's much much much better at lacrosse. So a student athlete there is BOTH getting a better education AND a better lacrosse experience. You, my friend, are one jealous man.
And by the way your daughter is all the proof needed that NU isn't recruiting well
To all posters and Moderators I apologize for the recent posts, It is difficult to have an anonymous poster personally attack your daughter because of MY opinion and I will stop
Is this nonsense being posted by adults ?
Originally Posted by MKVELE
To all posters and Moderators I apologize for the recent posts, It is difficult to have an anonymous poster personally attack your daughter because of MY opinion and I will stop

No one has the right to attack your daughter. I will see if I can find it.

Only a jealous coward who feels their life is completely empty would do that. I am sorry that it happened.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Hofstra did today?

I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5.

Serious question please don't get nasty- since SS hand picked this roster, and With the graduate player dominating and the considering the current losing streak, should a verbal recruit consider other options? Just doesn't seem like there is any teamwork, more like run to the goal.

I'm a TG player, and my best friends play for YJ and we never have problems or fight about who is on what team. I wish parents wouldn't either, because we don't care. I'm just asking a question because I don't want to regret any decision considering I might be spending 4 years at Hofstra. I have other choices and it's not just about winning but when I watch Hofstra games it just doesn't look like a lot of teamwork.
No reason to panic on Hofstra, no matter what the YJ people might imply. The roster is dominated by sophomores and freshmen. This occurs from time to time in every sport in college. Next year and the year after will be much better. Why isn't anyone talking about the weak performance of Navy (dominated by BC), or JMU (barely beat Denver), or Johns Hopkins (lost to Ohio State) or any other team that isn't playing up to their usual standards? Of course, as we all know, it's the YJ pukes trying to stir up a bunch of crap. Childish and silly behavior.
To the TG player committed to Hofstra, or any girl wanting to play in college.Go to a school that you will be happy at both on and off the field, If you are going to go into debt for college make sure that you receive a degree that will allow you to make a decent living. Lacrosse will only last 4 years, without playoffs thats 62 games, if your going to invest the time and money go to a school where you will play in games. Study hard and become good at what you major in and the name on the top of the diploma will not mean as much as the character of it's recipient. there are successful people from hundreds of schools. Be happy, play hard and study hard, success will follow. What I consider most important is do not mortgage your future for a game, remember only 62 game are guaranteed so choose a school for a major not a lacrosse program because you will spend far more time at a job than on a lacrosse field......bee smart not a lemming
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Hofstra did today?

I guess this is a rhetorical question? They got killed 20-5.

Serious question please don't get nasty- since SS hand picked this roster, and With the graduate player dominating and the considering the current losing streak, should a verbal recruit consider other options? Just doesn't seem like there is any teamwork, more like run to the goal.

I'm a TG player, and my best friends play for YJ and we never have problems or fight about who is on what team. I wish parents wouldn't either, because we don't care. I'm just asking a question because I don't want to regret any decision considering I might be spending 4 years at Hofstra. I have other choices and it's not just about winning but when I watch Hofstra games it just doesn't look like a lot of teamwork.
No reason to panic on Hofstra, no matter what the YJ people might imply. The roster is dominated by sophomores and freshmen. This occurs from time to time in every sport in college. Next year and the year after will be much better. Why isn't anyone talking about the weak performance of Navy (dominated by BC), or JMU (barely beat Denver), or Johns Hopkins (lost to Ohio State) or any other team that isn't playing up to their usual standards? Of course, as we all know, it's the YJ pukes trying to stir up a bunch of crap. Childish and silly behavior.

If your best friend plays for YJ, then why would you call them "YJ Pukes". Seems that you are contradicting yourself. Re-read before you hit "submit" and clarify yourself when need be (hopefully you meant to refer to PUKES as only the parents who spout off). Otherwise you are just part of the problem.

I think she made a mistake when she posted. Another poster wrote the part of the answer that starts at "No reason to panic..." She put her part ahead of another poster.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
To the TG player committed to Hofstra, or any girl wanting to play in college.Go to a school that you will be happy at both on and off the field, If you are going to go into debt for college make sure that you receive a degree that will allow you to make a decent living. Lacrosse will only last 4 years, without playoffs thats 62 games, if your going to invest the time and money go to a school where you will play in games. Study hard and become good at what you major in and the name on the top of the diploma will not mean as much as the character of it's recipient. there are successful people from hundreds of schools. Be happy, play hard and study hard, success will follow. What I consider most important is do not mortgage your future for a game, remember only 62 game are guaranteed so choose a school for a major not a lacrosse program because you will spend far more time at a job than on a lacrosse field......bee smart not a lemming

Amen! Great advice. Academics/major first-lacrosse second. Even new programs that don't have much chance of winning may be the right fit for a player, or a traditionally "weak" team may be the right fit. Do not fall into the trap of choosing your school based on peer pressure.
SS was the best YJ ever.......
Long Island freshman ripping it up at D1. Syracuse attacker, Boston College attacker, Notre Dame goalie and attacker, Florida middie and attacker.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

post 153330 ... It is in fact MKVELE who singled out a specific girl with details that started this.
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think she made a mistake when she posted. Another poster wrote the part of the answer that starts at "No reason to panic..." She put her part ahead of another poster.

That's correct thank you. And thank you to everyone for your advice. I'm torn between an up and coming D2 school with new dorms and and a great business program that will give me more money than Hofstra. It also seems more comfortable, so I'm going to visit again. Would be great graduate debt free.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

I agree was speaking to a parent I know from SB and they were without two midfield starters Was awesome for my daughter to see such a great evenly matched game Two goal posts for SB turned out to be important. Very large crowd as well.
Nice win for Florida today. They definitely looked better than SB, leading most of the game. SB put up a good fight, we're just overplayed!
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice win for Florida today. They definitely looked better than SB, leading most of the game. SB put up a good fight, we're just overplayed!

All these games will be much better next year when the team with the lead cant go and hide for the last 8 minutes of the game
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Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

I'd like to see them recruit outside of NY/LI as well. I think they would contend with a mix from players from outside NY.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

I agree was speaking to a parent I know from SB and they were without two midfield starters Was awesome for my daughter to see such a great evenly matched game Two goal posts for SB turned out to be important. Very large crowd as well.

Certainly correct about crowd, that was an all time record crowd for a SB game by almost double.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

I agree was speaking to a parent I know from SB and they were without two midfield starters Was awesome for my daughter to see such a great evenly matched game Two goal posts for SB turned out to be important. Very large crowd as well.

Certainly correct about crowd, that was an all time record crowd for a SB game by almost double.

Glad to hear that. So much interest and great lacrosse here on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice win for Florida today. They definitely looked better than SB, leading most of the game. SB put up a good fight, we're just overplayed!

All these games will be much better next year when the team with the lead cant go and hide for the last 8 minutes of the game
SB held the ball for more than three minuets twice with under 10 minuets left in the game. They just passed it around with no real urgency to score while down by a goal. You can't really say that thats the team with the lead hiding can you
Here you go: The Professors Rankings

1. Maryland
2. Florida
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stony Brook
8. Notre Dame
9. Stanford
10. Virginia
11. Penn State
12. Towson
13. Boston College
14. Northwestern
15. UConn
16. Southern Cal
17. Umass
18. Temple
20. Loyola

Others schools considered

Vanderbilt
Penn
Duke
Delaware
Hopkins
Elon
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice win for Florida today. They definitely looked better than SB, leading most of the game. SB put up a good fight, we're just overplayed!

All these games will be much better next year when the team with the lead cant go and hide for the last 8 minutes of the game
SB held the ball for more than three minuets twice with under 10 minuets left in the game. They just passed it around with no real urgency to score while down by a goal. You can't really say that thats the team with the lead hiding can you

Florida is a team with better players and a better coach. That's why they won and are ranked #2 . Please stop. SB tried, but the better team won! Was fun to watch!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

So you were rooting for SB but you've watched every game of Florida close enough to compare "sloppiest" efforts. Clearly you posted w an agenda Go a step further as SB was missing two starting midfielders ? Nah just half the facts. Florida has top two recruits in country and ranked #2 and only beat SB by one. Floridas coach holds the clip board and stands there. SB is clearly a better coached squad evident by a one goal game w a much higher ranked team. Facts only please. I've only heard about both these teams and went in open minded Very entertaining game that's my assessment I know players and parents on both teams. Interesting how SB D held top Florida players quiet and Florida played Ohmiller really well. Great day for LI LACROSSE Spallina is building something special there that place was jumping today
What is going on at Hofstra hearing rumblings
One of SBU's starting midfielders sprained her ankle on Saturday, the day before the game. She quarterbacks their offense which left them in a bad spot with no real time to fix it. On a 1 goal game switching who you run your plays through makes a huge difference. Also, SBUs freshman goalie came up with some big saves but made a rookie mistake on a clear leading to a quick goal for Florida. Can't make mistakes like that against a #2 ranked team. But that one goal she caused could have changed the game. Bet the poor kid won't do that again.

Overall it was a fantastic game to watch and I'm glad we went. I was a little disappointed with Floridas repeated fouls. It really slowed down the game and seemed a bit over the top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on at Hofstra hearing rumblings

Read back a few pages. SS father bad mouthed a big donor to parents at TG, got back to donor. Throw in losing most of your games and the girls don't want to tolerate SS tantrums during practice any longer, notice that they are getting worse. The first few games they played well, but as disord goes on the team has played worse. Girls want to walk away. There is more than just grumblings, the previous AD could care less about Wins/losses, he just cared about budget and keeping costs down (why she was hired in the first place). When SS was interviewed originally at Hofstra she was interviewing for a Grad Asst. position. This was during a time of downsizing (shortly after cutting football) and the admin at the time didn't care about most team's success just keeping costs down.
Fast forward, new AD is coming in, and he doesn't like SS. He was associate AD who had to deal with the donor fallout and other nonsense of SS. Not sure if she is done, but it will become very uncomfortable for her.
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Good post. SB is no Florida. You gave an accurate account. Hate when people start blaming the loss on this or that. Maybe the other team was just better?
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Agree you can't have excuses, i will preface this as a "Florida supporter" and speaking w some "SB supporters" they did not make excuses were very complimentary as two top 10 teams had a heavy weight battle I understand the SB mindset at the end, Florida was winning EVERY draw, so yes with three minutes left your on your last possession in all likelihood. So looking to tie the game YES that's the mindset and I can tell you this SB made adjustments at half outscored our women and played smart clean lacrosse. Shortening the game to me was the on,y way when draw play is so lopsided. Great crowd and Us Local Florida parents love the quick commute. Kudos to both teams What a game!

Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

No but at half down 5-2 one team made adjustments at half and almost pulled it out while the other team did not. That's coaching and FYI I was wearing orange and blue yesterday

Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Your opinion is just wrong IMHO. You have a team that is being killed at the draw yet you want to push the action? You have a team that is missing several key players but has managed to keep the game within reach of course they want to shorten the game. Play for the tie and take your chances in sudden death sounds like the smart move. Push the pace and try to outscore a team that won 90 percent of the draws in a run and gun makes no sense.
I watched the game on television yesterday with my HS daughter. It was a lot of fun to watch. It didn't matter to either of us who won - she knows girls on both teams. But, you have to be honest - SB was down 2 starting middies both last minute illness and injury. There aren't a lot of teams around who can play at the same level missing two important starters. There's no way to know if the outcome would've been different if SB was at full strength, but it's only fair to present all the facts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Agree you can't have excuses, i will preface this as a "Florida supporter" and speaking w some "SB supporters" they did not make excuses were very complimentary as two top 10 teams had a heavy weight battle I understand the SB mindset at the end, Florida was winning EVERY draw, so yes with three minutes left your on your last possession in all likelihood. So looking to tie the game YES that's the mindset and I can tell you this SB made adjustments at half outscored our women and played smart clean lacrosse. Shortening the game to me was the on,y way when draw play is so lopsided. Great crowd and Us Local Florida parents love the quick commute. Kudos to both teams What a game!

I did not speak to any supporters on either side I sat alone, and FYI I wore gray yesterday. Two very good teams but..... killing clock on your own team to play for o.t because you can't win a draw makes even less sense. With the new golden goal format, if you take the last shot and go to O.T. and lose the draw 80% of the time you have lost. Shoot with 10 min. left, and then 4 min left, and lose the draw you still have time to make a stand at least twice, I just don't get the logic. To me it's a bad coaching error that coast the game. As far as adjustments go holding the ball for 6 of the last 9 minuets of the game and taking only one shot in the last minuet is not and adjustment it's a mistake. Granted SB scored 4 goals to Fla 2 in the second half...... they needed 5 why stop shooting
Stony Brook lost because the didn't play as well as Florida. If I hear one more excuse I'll have to get my violin out!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on at Hofstra hearing rumblings

Read back a few pages. SS father bad mouthed a big donor to parents at TG, got back to donor. Throw in losing most of your games and the girls don't want to tolerate SS tantrums during practice any longer, notice that they are getting worse. The first few games they played well, but as disord goes on the team has played worse. Girls want to walk away. There is more than just grumblings, the previous AD could care less about Wins/losses, he just cared about budget and keeping costs down (why she was hired in the first place). When SS was interviewed originally at Hofstra she was interviewing for a Grad Asst. position. This was during a time of downsizing (shortly after cutting football) and the admin at the time didn't care about most team's success just keeping costs down.
Fast forward, new AD is coming in, and he doesn't like SS. He was associate AD who had to deal with the donor fallout and other nonsense of SS. Not sure if she is done, but it will become very uncomfortable for her.

There's always "rumblings" about a head coach when a team is not doing well. As far as tantrums go, all coaches throw tantrums. I'm sure she threw tantrums last year but since they won the CAA regular season championship there wasn't much concern about it. They lose key seniors and have to reload and now when she throws tantrums it's a big deal and "girls want to walk". If the team is not playing well, maybe she has a reason to throw a tantrum at practice. I'll never understand why girls teams and guys teams are treated differently when it comes to coaches personalities. Give SS time. She's young, relatively new to coaching and needs time. She signed a contract extension last year. Patience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Your opinion is just wrong IMHO. You have a team that is being killed at the draw yet you want to push the action? You have a team that is missing several key players but has managed to keep the game within reach of course they want to shorten the game. Play for the tie and take your chances in sudden death sounds like the smart move. Push the pace and try to outscore a team that won 90 percent of the draws in a run and gun makes no sense.

agree 100%
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on at Hofstra hearing rumblings

Read back a few pages. SS father bad mouthed a big donor to parents at TG, got back to donor. Throw in losing most of your games and the girls don't want to tolerate SS tantrums during practice any longer, notice that they are getting worse. The first few games they played well, but as disord goes on the team has played worse. Girls want to walk away. There is more than just grumblings, the previous AD could care less about Wins/losses, he just cared about budget and keeping costs down (why she was hired in the first place). When SS was interviewed originally at Hofstra she was interviewing for a Grad Asst. position. This was during a time of downsizing (shortly after cutting football) and the admin at the time didn't care about most team's success just keeping costs down.
Fast forward, new AD is coming in, and he doesn't like SS. He was associate AD who had to deal with the donor fallout and other nonsense of SS. Not sure if she is done, but it will become very uncomfortable for her.

There's always "rumblings" about a head coach when a team is not doing well. As far as tantrums go, all coaches throw tantrums. I'm sure she threw tantrums last year but since they won the CAA regular season championship there wasn't much concern about it. They lose key seniors and have to reload and now when she throws tantrums it's a big deal and "girls want to walk". If the team is not playing well, maybe she has a reason to throw a tantrum at practice. I'll never understand why girls teams and guys teams are treated differently when it comes to coaches personalities. Give SS time. She's young, relatively new to coaching and needs time. She signed a contract extension last year. Patience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Your opinion is just wrong IMHO. You have a team that is being killed at the draw yet you want to push the action? You have a team that is missing several key players but has managed to keep the game within reach of course they want to shorten the game. Play for the tie and take your chances in sudden death sounds like the smart move. Push the pace and try to outscore a team that won 90 percent of the draws in a run and gun makes no sense.

agree 100%
I'm sorry but you want it both ways but can't
. First it was missing one player with a sprained ankle, then another with a sickness, now several. From what I can tell SB was missing Yavoli, and it hurts, but with Ohlmiller, Murphy, Van Dyke, and Guido still in the game it sounds like an excuse. I know everyone thinks I'm stupid, and you're probably right, but you guys admit you lost 90% of the draws, I don't understand why any good coach would wait to take the last shot to tie a game, and then have to rely on winning the draw to win it in sudden death when you haven't won one all game. Yes I would have pushed the issue with 10 minutes left, scored a goal to tie and went to the draw. Even if you lose the draw again and your D doesn't hold you still have a chance if they score. In OT if your team doesn't hold you lose period. What did JS think was going to happen to start OT, Florida to hand them the ball and say ok your turn, hope for a violation. The chances of any team not scoring in the first possession of OT in very small
What are the Big matchups this week?
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
I post then answer myself.... when have I done that, get a hobby..... ok I chose lacrosse specifically, woman lacrosse. Is it any worse than spending endless hours coming up with fantasy football or baseball teams, or following the Nets, Rangers, Islanders, or Knicks. SB played better than I expected, but the fans seem to come up with excuses as to why they lost when the answer seems simple. Your team played well, maybe one day you'll beat them, but not yet. I look forward to seeing them beat Hofstra.... and are I say NU. Your girls played very well, did everything the coach told them to, It was he who let them down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue
If a certain LI SUNY coach has doubled their pay to $160k and another SUNY coach in the capital region is at$90k then one would think a private school in Hempstead is paying pretty good and better stay very close to the top 20 or there might be changes coming.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue

I also have a friends daughter on the HU team, and her perspective is a little different. In the fall she said it was a hard adjustment...workouts, school, coaches, etc. But as her spring semester and regular season rolled around she has changed her view. She says they expected a rough first part to the season with all of the youth. And as the season has begun they recognize what they're up against but their spirit is still positive and she still likes SS. Remember, not every player will like their coach every day and they will not hate her every day. I think in this day and time, there is too much short-sightedness and not enough long term views.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue

LOTS of coaches are hard to play for. Dig into the reputation of the coach at U of Michigan, Winthrop, Louisville, etc. Lots and lots of use of the word "crazy" thrown about when describing them and others.
MKVELE wasnt talking about SB seems you like a good argument and are involved in every discussion and are VERRRRY defensive Sure your daughters proud

IWLCA Poll for Division I, March 7
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 4-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 7-0 378 3
3 Syracuse 6-1 355 2
4 North Carolina 4-2 343 4
5 Louisville 7-0 305 12
6 Notre Dame 5-1 265 5
7 Princeton 4-0 256 9
8 Virginia 4-2 255 7
9 Penn State 4-1 241 8
10 Stony Brook 1-1 231 10
11 Northwestern 1-3 221 6
12 Southern California 4-0 207 11
13 Stanford 4-1 159 13
14 Boston College 4-2 121 14
15 Duke 4-3 114 15
16 Penn 3-1 103 16
17 Ohio State 4-1 75 17
18 Towson 5-0 59 20
19 Johns Hopkins 3-3 44 18
20 Connecticut 4-0 38 19
IWLCA Poll for Division II, March 7
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 2-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 2-0 377 2
3 Lindenwood 4-0 358 3
4 New Haven 1-0 325 4
5 LIU Post 1-1 318 5
6 Rollins 4-0 315 6
7 Limestone 4-0 256 8
8 Lock Haven 1-0 250 7
9 West Chester 2-0 219 10
10 Mercyhurst 2-1 218 12
11 Grand Valley State 1-2 215 11
12 Florida Southern 2-2 186 13
13 Stonehill 0-1 173 9
14 Queens 4-0 135 15
15 Seton Hill 1-2 118 16
16 Dowling 2-0 101 17
17 Mount Olive 6-1 85 14
18 Regis (CO) 4-0 59 19
19 Bentley 0-1 54 18
20 Saint Anselm 0-0 18 20
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 7
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 1-0 400 20 1
2 Trinity (CT) 2-0 377 2
3 Franklin & Marshall 3-0 362 3
4 Middlebury 1-0 338 4
5 College of NJ 2-0 310 5
6 Gettysburg 3-0 298 6
7 Salisbury 4-0 289 7
8 [lacrosse] 3-1 257 8
9 Amherst 1-0 234 12
10 Tufts 0-0 211 11
11 Colby 1-0 194 15
12 Bowdoin 0-1 170 9
13 Hamilton 0-1 141 13
14 Messiah 1-2 136 14
15 St. John Fisher 2-0 114 17
16 Mary Washington 6-0 94 18
17 Catholic (DC) 0-2 80 10
18 Union 1-0 41 19
19 Washington College 2-0 27 NR
19 Brockport 3-0 27 NR
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 7
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 1-0 400 20 1
2 Trinity (CT) 2-0 377 2
3 Franklin & Marshall 3-0 362 3
4 Middlebury 1-0 338 4
5 College of NJ 2-0 310 5
6 Gettysburg 3-0 298 6
7 Salisbury 4-0 289 7
8 [lacrosse] 3-1 257 8
9 Amherst 1-0 234 12
10 Tufts 0-0 211 11
11 Colby 1-0 194 15
12 Bowdoin 0-1 170 9
13 Hamilton 0-1 141 13
14 Messiah 1-2 136 14
15 St. John Fisher 2-0 114 17
16 Mary Washington 6-0 94 18
17 Catholic (DC) 0-2 80 10
18 Union 1-0 41 19
19 Washington College 2-0 27 NR
19 Brockport 3-0 27 NR
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE wasnt talking about SB seems you like a good argument and are involved in every discussion and are VERRRRY defensive Sure your daughters proud
I don't know what you're talking about, what are you talking about then
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue

I also have a friends daughter on the HU team, and her perspective is a little different. In the fall she said it was a hard adjustment...workouts, school, coaches, etc. But as her spring semester and regular season rolled around she has changed her view. She says they expected a rough first part to the season with all of the youth. And as the season has begun they recognize what they're up against but their spirit is still positive and she still likes SS. Remember, not every player will like their coach every day and they will not hate her every day. I think in this day and time, there is too much short-sightedness and not enough long term views.
I really have not had any interaction with her, My daughter played for a different club, she never wanted to go to Hofstra. You know how lacrosse is, all the girls have only 7 degrees of separation or less. some likelier some don't . I wish her no ill will, Hofstra was never one of my favorite schools.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue

No harm taken...no worries. My skin is thick. Every player at every school will have a different experience. Same with lacrosse teams. Some players don't mind a tough coach, some players wilt when a coach yells at them. Just because a coach is considered hard to play for doesn't mean the same thing to all players. I've seen many coaches do a lot of yelling at practice but be very calm during games, and I've seen the opposite. My take is this...Give SS and Hofstra some time. This is only her 4th season, a relative newby by most accounts. I never bash a player for her choice of colleges. It's her experience, not mine. And, I will never bow to the peer pressure that is attempted by the YJ/CR/SB bunch.

I also have a friends daughter on the HU team, and her perspective is a little different. In the fall she said it was a hard adjustment...workouts, school, coaches, etc. But as her spring semester and regular season rolled around she has changed her view. She says they expected a rough first part to the season with all of the youth. And as the season has begun they recognize what they're up against but their spirit is still positive and she still likes SS. Remember, not every player will like their coach every day and they will not hate her every day. I think in this day and time, there is too much short-sightedness and not enough long term views.
I really have not had any interaction with her, My daughter played for a different club, she never wanted to go to Hofstra. You know how lacrosse is, all the girls have only 7 degrees of separation or less. some likelier some don't . I wish her no ill will, Hofstra was never one of my favorite schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MKVELE you need a hobby you post then answer yourself praise then critisize. Seems you may be bored! Tell me more about what is happening at Hofstra. New polls are out today interesting
Oh and if you want my thoughts on Hofstra...... Shannon seems hard to play for. My daughter has friends on that squad and from what I understand they are generally unhappy with the way Shannon treats them. Lost a bunch to graduation not the best at recruiting, runs her college team like her club, and he father seems to be an issue

No harm taken...no worries. My skin is thick. Every player at every school will have a different experience. Same with lacrosse teams. Some players don't mind a tough coach, some players wilt when a coach yells at them. Just because a coach is considered hard to play for doesn't mean the same thing to all players. I've seen many coaches do a lot of yelling at practice but be very calm during games, and I've seen the opposite. My take is this...Give SS and Hofstra some time. This is only her 4th season, a relative newby by most accounts. I never bash a player for her choice of colleges. It's her experience, not mine. And, I will never bow to the peer pressure that is attempted by the YJ/CR/SB bunch.

I also have a friends daughter on the HU team, and her perspective is a little different. In the fall she said it was a hard adjustment...workouts, school, coaches, etc. But as her spring semester and regular season rolled around she has changed her view. She says they expected a rough first part to the season with all of the youth. And as the season has begun they recognize what they're up against but their spirit is still positive and she still likes SS. Remember, not every player will like their coach every day and they will not hate her every day. I think in this day and time, there is too much short-sightedness and not enough long term views.
I really have not had any interaction with her, My daughter played for a different club, she never wanted to go to Hofstra. You know how lacrosse is, all the girls have only 7 degrees of separation or less. some likelier some don't . I wish her no ill will, Hofstra was never one of my favorite schools.

By the way...I don't live in NY or NJ and my daughter DOES NOT play for TG.
SS good coach, Hofstra no talent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SS good coach, Hofstra no talent

I agree with the first statement and slightly disagree with the second. No talent is a pretty strong statement, given that the vast majority of the roster is sophomores and freshmen. They have talent, but D1 lacrosse is a big jump from high school. The school is good and the coaches are good, and to the contrary of some on here, they are good recruiters. It appears they are reaching further than NY and MD for talent, which is a good thing. In MD and NY there are only so many future "superstar" players to go around. The next few years rosters are more diversified.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !

No skin in this argument, but Fla coach is far from a top coach, she has the horses and SB wasn't quit able to match up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Good post. SB is no Florida. You gave an accurate account. Hate when people start blaming the loss on this or that. Maybe the other team was just better?

If fla and ND had coaches that new what they were doing they both would have been final four teams the past couple of seasons and should certainly be there this year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SS good coach, Hofstra no talent

Exactly! Those are all her players, either can't recruit or identify talent...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Good post. SB is no Florida. You gave an accurate account. Hate when people start blaming the loss on this or that. Maybe the other team was just better?

If fla and ND had coaches that new what they were doing they both would have been final four teams the past couple of seasons and should certainly be there this year

If the "great" SB coach new what he was doing he would of found a way to beat a sloppy Florida team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Good post. SB is no Florida. You gave an accurate account. Hate when people start blaming the loss on this or that. Maybe the other team was just better?

If fla and ND had coaches that new what they were doing they both would have been final four teams the past couple of seasons and should certainly be there this year

If the "great" SB coach new what he was doing he would of found a way to beat a sloppy Florida team!

If he was coaching FLA they would have won by double digits, for that matter if I were coaching FLA they would have won by double digits - you cant honestly compare the two rosters and say its a pick'em game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !

No skin in this argument, but Fla coach is far from a top coach, she has the horses and SB wasn't quit able to match up

How many people were at LaValle stadium several years ago to witness Cuse come back to beat Gators in the Semi finals? That game was in the books and any coach could have preserved the win. She blew it. SBrook coach is doing far more with much less talent. Impressed with his ability to coach, just not a fan of the screaming. I was in the upper deck and heard him screaming at a girl who didn't have a shot backed up, this possession is on you, if they score its on you, screaming during live play. Wasn't sure if he was screaming at a girl who was supposed to be behind the cage for shot or the girl who rushed the shot before someone could back it up? Either way, wasn't a pretty sight.
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just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !

No skin in this argument, but Fla coach is far from a top coach, she has the horses and SB wasn't quit able to match up

How many people were at LaValle stadium several years ago to witness Cuse come back to beat Gators in the Semi finals? That game was in the books and any coach could have preserved the win. She blew it. SBrook coach is doing far more with much less talent. Impressed with his ability to coach, just not a fan of the screaming. I was in the upper deck and heard him screaming at a girl who didn't have a shot backed up, this possession is on you, if they score its on you, screaming during live play. Wasn't sure if he was screaming at a girl who was supposed to be behind the cage for shot or the girl who rushed the shot before someone could back it up? Either way, wasn't a pretty sight.

They still lost! The better coach pulled their team through! Fact! Stats don't lie
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SS good coach, Hofstra no talent

Exactly! Those are all her players, either can't recruit or identify talent...

Good players don't always become good coaches. Would send some message if a number of players leave. Pathetic showing at the TG tournament held at Hofstra last year.
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just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !

No skin in this argument, but Fla coach is far from a top coach, she has the horses and SB wasn't quit able to match up

How many people were at LaValle stadium several years ago to witness Cuse come back to beat Gators in the Semi finals? That game was in the books and any coach could have preserved the win. She blew it. SBrook coach is doing far more with much less talent. Impressed with his ability to coach, just not a fan of the screaming. I was in the upper deck and heard him screaming at a girl who didn't have a shot backed up, this possession is on you, if they score its on you, screaming during live play. Wasn't sure if he was screaming at a girl who was supposed to be behind the cage for shot or the girl who rushed the shot before someone could back it up? Either way, wasn't a pretty sight.

They still lost! The better coach pulled their team through! Fact! Stats don't lie

The beater TEAM won, fla coach is below average to put it kindly. I was at the same playoff game at SB that she blew against Cuse, it was an embarrassing lose by any standard
One team was down 5-2 at half made adjustments the other held on for dear life That's coaching , Fact Stats don't lie. Think everyone knows Florida is far more talented with top recruits. So based on that how did SB manage to only lose by one ? Regardless does it really matter, LIKE stated above SB is doing far more with far less and as a LI eesident like having a quick ride to watch TOP 10 lacrosse
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just watched SB v Fla Stony brook looked very good

Was there too, rooting for SB. Scary part is Florida played the sloppiest game ever and still won. If they played a clean game, would have been a blowout. SB needs to start recruiting draw specialists, got killed on the draw today. Sick behind the back shot!

SB was outcoached, but nice effort !

No skin in this argument, but Fla coach is far from a top coach, she has the horses and SB wasn't quit able to match up

How many people were at LaValle stadium several years ago to witness Cuse come back to beat Gators in the Semi finals? That game was in the books and any coach could have preserved the win. She blew it. SBrook coach is doing far more with much less talent. Impressed with his ability to coach, just not a fan of the screaming. I was in the upper deck and heard him screaming at a girl who didn't have a shot backed up, this possession is on you, if they score its on you, screaming during live play. Wasn't sure if he was screaming at a girl who was supposed to be behind the cage for shot or the girl who rushed the shot before someone could back it up? Either way, wasn't a pretty sight.

That was an epic collapse in semi finals. I for one love the fact that LI has a team that can compete on this level! Great job by Florida coaches and players as well as SB Coaches and players. My daughter loved the game
Hofstra is an absolute mess, daughter has had it there don't think it will get any better. Team is miserable
11 to 2 on the draws in favor of Florida.
Florida won the game by 1 goal.
How can you say SB was out coached.
COME ON MAN!!!!!!!!
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Hofstra is an absolute mess, daughter has had it there don't think it will get any better. Team is miserable

Please stop, SS is still young and once again being a great player doesn't mean you will be a great coach that can evaluate and recruit. But many many kids are miserable in D1 programs. My family lived it. Above average kid on her club team, a middle to lower kid on her college team, limited game minutes and having the program own her for about 5 hours a day with tons of travel and missed classes. This is not exclusive to Hofstra and just like club where people always chase the hot programs LOSING SUCKS and right now Hofstra is losing.
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Hofstra is an absolute mess, daughter has had it there don't think it will get any better. Team is miserable

Please stop, SS is still young and once again being a great player doesn't mean you will be a great coach that can evaluate and recruit. But many many kids are miserable in D1 programs. My family lived it. Above average kid on her club team, a middle to lower kid on her college team, limited game minutes and having the program own her for about 5 hours a day with tons of travel and missed classes. This is not exclusive to Hofstra and just like club where people always chase the hot programs LOSING SUCKS and right now Hofstra is losing.

I agree college athletics is very demanding regardless of division, and probably unfair to Ss is the expectations. Last few years she coached someone else's recruits now her own are there and criticism can grow. Winning can solve some of that
I think this is getting crazy. To say O'Leary, and Halfpenny are not as good a coach as Spellina is crazy. if you want to talk facts lets talk facts,

Including Sundays game, Florida had played 7 games, three in the same week including SB, One in 'cuse... one back in Florida... and then one in SB all within 7 days, thats one more game in just that week than SB has played all year, 2 against ranked opponents while SB played Bryant in RI, a short bus trip.

JS in all his press has yet to take a D! team past the 2nd round while both other coaches have.

You want to talk Adelphi.... with all the raving JS gets about them if you go to Laxpower you can see there records backs far as 2005, in that span there has been 4 coaches including JS. the most loses from any coach is 3, twice (Grella). in that same span they have only lost championship 4 times 3 times to LIU post (2x grella, 1x Spallina). basically what I'm saying is you rant about his time at Adelphi, and Adelphi was just as good under 3 other coaches.

You complain that he is doing more with less talent.... I say B.S. the talent at SB is top caliber, they are ranked 10 in the nation not because of Joe Spallina but because of the girls on the field. How dare you say they are not as good, you should be ashamed for saying such nonsense.

In the end it was not the Idea of the girls to hold the ball for 6+ minuets of the last 10, it was Joe Spallinas' His coaching lost that game
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I think this is getting crazy. To say O'Leary, and Halfpenny are not as good a coach as Spellina is crazy. if you want to talk facts lets talk facts,

Including Sundays game, Florida had played 7 games, three in the same week including SB, One in 'cuse... one back in Florida... and then one in SB all within 7 days, thats one more game in just that week than SB has played all year, 2 against ranked opponents while SB played Bryant in RI, a short bus trip.

JS in all his press has yet to take a D! team past the 2nd round while both other coaches have.

You want to talk Adelphi.... with all the raving JS gets about them if you go to Laxpower you can see there records backs far as 2005, in that span there has been 4 coaches including JS. the most loses from any coach is 3, twice (Grella). in that same span they have only lost championship 4 times 3 times to LIU post (2x grella, 1x Spallina). basically what I'm saying is you rant about his time at Adelphi, and Adelphi was just as good under 3 other coaches.

You complain that he is doing more with less talent.... I say B.S. the talent at SB is top caliber, they are ranked 10 in the nation not because of Joe Spallina but because of the girls on the field. How dare you say they are not as good, you should be ashamed for saying such nonsense.

In the end it was not the Idea of the girls to hold the ball for 6+ minuets of the last 10, it was Joe Spallinas' His coaching lost that game

Spallina coaching Adelphi is like me coaching a YJ Blue team dump out the ball bag and get out of the way because the best players are there. Do you really think the YJ's have the best coaches? 18, 20 something girls in flip flops that are manipulated by parents? They attract the best talent (as does Adelphi) which makes any coach look good. Was Tony Dungy a great NFL coach or did he just have Peyton Manning? Players make the coach except for a few decisions in big games.

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Originally Posted by MKVELE
I think this is getting crazy. To say O'Leary, and Halfpenny are not as good a coach as Spellina is crazy. if you want to talk facts lets talk facts,

Including Sundays game, Florida had played 7 games, three in the same week including SB, One in 'cuse... one back in Florida... and then one in SB all within 7 days, thats one more game in just that week than SB has played all year, 2 against ranked opponents while SB played Bryant in RI, a short bus trip.

JS in all his press has yet to take a D! team past the 2nd round while both other coaches have.

You want to talk Adelphi.... with all the raving JS gets about them if you go to Laxpower you can see there records backs far as 2005, in that span there has been 4 coaches including JS. the most loses from any coach is 3, twice (Grella). in that same span they have only lost championship 4 times 3 times to LIU post (2x grella, 1x Spallina). basically what I'm saying is you rant about his time at Adelphi, and Adelphi was just as good under 3 other coaches.

You complain that he is doing more with less talent.... I say B.S. the talent at SB is top caliber, they are ranked 10 in the nation not because of Joe Spallina but because of the girls on the field. How dare you say they are not as good, you should be ashamed for saying such nonsense.

In the end it was not the Idea of the girls to hold the ball for 6+ minuets of the last 10, it was Joe Spallinas' His coaching lost that game

Spallina coaching Adelphi is like me coaching a YJ Blue team dump out the ball bag and get out of the way because the best players are there. Do you really think the YJ's have the best coaches? 18, 20 something girls in flip flops that are manipulated by parents? They attract the best talent (as does Adelphi) which makes any coach look good. Was Tony Dungy a great NFL coach or did he just have Peyton Manning? Players make the coach except for a few decisions in big games.

Agree, but a bad coach can screw up a team of very good players.

JS is obviously a good coach and SBU has some very good players. They will win their share of games this year.

MKVELE what "top recruits are in SB ? Compared to Florida, I will preface this as saying my daughter doesn't play on SB or Florida but a top D1 school to underscore his impact at SB Makes you laughable. And clearly jealous. Now don't get all sensitive and apologize to the boards.. SB last year beat Florida, Norte Dame USC AND Northwestern. Please tell us when a LI college team has done that? Grind your ax somewhere else Your clogging this board with your nonsense then to respond to your own post "annomously makes you really pathetic "we see you MKVELE" also notice how you keep mentioning halfpenny hmmm. SB beat them too before ND dropped them Oh we get it now
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I think this is getting crazy. To say O'Leary, and Halfpenny are not as good a coach as Spellina is crazy. if you want to talk facts lets talk facts,

Including Sundays game, Florida had played 7 games, three in the same week including SB, One in 'cuse... one back in Florida... and then one in SB all within 7 days, thats one more game in just that week than SB has played all year, 2 against ranked opponents while SB played Bryant in RI, a short bus trip.

JS in all his press has yet to take a D! team past the 2nd round while both other coaches have.

You want to talk Adelphi.... with all the raving JS gets about them if you go to Laxpower you can see there records backs far as 2005, in that span there has been 4 coaches including JS. the most loses from any coach is 3, twice (Grella). in that same span they have only lost championship 4 times 3 times to LIU post (2x grella, 1x Spallina). basically what I'm saying is you rant about his time at Adelphi, and Adelphi was just as good under 3 other coaches.

You complain that he is doing more with less talent.... I say B.S. the talent at SB is top caliber, they are ranked 10 in the nation not because of Joe Spallina but because of the girls on the field. How dare you say they are not as good, you should be ashamed for saying such nonsense.

In the end it was not the Idea of the girls to hold the ball for 6+ minuets of the last 10, it was Joe Spallinas' His coaching lost that game

Your the only one getting crazy What a life you must have. Your daughter definitely went to school away from home
It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot
Probably a little tougher recruiting at SB than Note Dame or Florida. Know most of these kids and I will tell you not many SB recruits are as highly touted coming out yet SB is getting almost equal results which speaks volumes about the coach and players Like it or not
Some schools name alone is all the recruitment they need. SB is not one of them. Stony Brook is now the D1 version of Adelphi. Tons of talented LI kids that don't want to go off the island are now choosing SB but when you look at their roster not 1 kid from Maryland. Maryland area schools have tons of LI girls. That might be the difference is being in top 10 and winning a national championship
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Sounds like SB fans have a lot of excuses. You say you lose a single player to injury, thats fine but if you want to be considered top 10 one player should not make a difference. SB has played only 1 game opposed to FLA 6 (at game time) and 2 within the week one in FLA and one in 'cuse. That would have made 3 games in 7 days against a fresh team.

You can't ever blame a goalie for a loss with 11 woman to go through before her. She made plenty of saves to win that game, one mistake by her was not the reason for the loss.

Please remember this is just my opinion
To say SB is better coached because Halfpenny stands there with a clipboard while Spallina runs up and down the sidelines screaming is laughable, just 2 different coaching styles, remember FLA won. Like I stated last night JS chose to run off no less than 6 of the last 10 min. while down a goal, to me thats playing for a tie and not a win,thats playing scared and that, IMHO, makes it a coaches loss. with 10:00 left you could put in a goal instead of throwing it around the 12m. 5 times, go to draw, and believe in your "D" to stop them if you lose it.

SB played a much cleaner game than they did last year but lets not get crazy with the FLA fouls SB were like the Mohawks last year the way they swung the sticks, glad to see they cleaned it up they don't need to do that cheap crap, there better than that.

Good post. SB is no Florida. You gave an accurate account. Hate when people start blaming the loss on this or that. Maybe the other team was just better?

If fla and ND had coaches that new what they were doing they both would have been final four teams the past couple of seasons and should certainly be there this year

If the "great" SB coach new what he was doing he would of found a way to beat a sloppy Florida team!

Rumor has it Florida LI girls got SB plays from an old high school coach.
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Some schools name alone is all the recruitment they need. SB is not one of them. Stony Brook is now the D1 version of Adelphi. Tons of talented LI kids that don't want to go off the island are now choosing SB but when you look at their roster not 1 kid from Maryland. Maryland area schools have tons of LI girls. That might be the difference is being in top 10 and winning a national championship

Great point it will be interesting that now the program is elevated and a contender if that changes. smart initially targeting the LI players sprinkle in some Maryland players and that could put them higher
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MKVELE what "top recruits are in SB ? Compared to Florida, I will preface this as saying my daughter doesn't play on SB or Florida but a top D1 school to underscore his impact at SB Makes you laughable. And clearly jealous. Now don't get all sensitive and apologize to the boards.. SB last year beat Florida, Norte Dame USC AND Northwestern. Please tell us when a LI college team has done that? Grind your ax somewhere else Your clogging this board with your nonsense then to respond to your own post "annomously makes you really pathetic "we see you MKVELE" also notice how you keep mentioning halfpenny hmmm. SB beat them too before ND dropped them Oh we get it now
WOW bitter much

First. I never have answered my own post anonymously..... any moderator on the board can trace my IP and verify that..... sounds like you are familiar with this tactic though

second. I never said SB had top recruits, I don't even know in what fantasy world you live in that i said that.

third. it makes no difference where my daughter plays

fourth. I have never hid my dislike for JS. He's just not a coach I like I don't think he's that good, just like the previous posters don't like Halfpenny or O'Leary but YOU didn't seem to have a problem with them just me, Very bitter on your part

finally. what SB did last year has zero relevance this year. you mentioned Fla, NU, USC, and ND as wins last year, so far this year HE and I do mean HE, not his girls have lost 25% of those games. Heres a prediction for you he loses 75% beating onl NU

heres a question for you why are you so angry over my opinion, and if your daughter doesn't go there why do you care...... unless like me you need to "find a hobby"

oh and feel free to mind your business mr. or mrs Anonymous you could be any of the people that have spewed your venom towards me already, but we'll never know because your to cowardly to even assign a board name to your post. you can skip my posts if you like no one makes you read them
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It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.
Mkvele not involved in your squabble but you are a piece of work Sounds like you personal dislike warps your honest opinion. Regardless move on its annoying
Here is my two cents that should we weighed. My older daughter played at SB Pre Spallina I was at the game Sunday and to see where the program has gone is astonishing boy do I wish my daughter was there now. Kudos to SB Strategy at the end can be questioned but isn't it always in every sport! That is what makes sports great. Keep it up pretty neat to see SB among the Top of the top
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It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?
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It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?

It comes with the territory when you get paid to have success
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I think this is getting crazy. To say O'Leary, and Halfpenny are not as good a coach as Spellina is crazy. if you want to talk facts lets talk facts,

Including Sundays game, Florida had played 7 games, three in the same week including SB, One in 'cuse... one back in Florida... and then one in SB all within 7 days, thats one more game in just that week than SB has played all year, 2 against ranked opponents while SB played Bryant in RI, a short bus trip.

JS in all his press has yet to take a D! team past the 2nd round while both other coaches have.

You want to talk Adelphi.... with all the raving JS gets about them if you go to Laxpower you can see there records backs far as 2005, in that span there has been 4 coaches including JS. the most loses from any coach is 3, twice (Grella). in that same span they have only lost championship 4 times 3 times to LIU post (2x grella, 1x Spallina). basically what I'm saying is you rant about his time at Adelphi, and Adelphi was just as good under 3 other coaches.

You complain that he is doing more with less talent.... I say B.S. the talent at SB is top caliber, they are ranked 10 in the nation not because of Joe Spallina but because of the girls on the field. How dare you say they are not as good, you should be ashamed for saying such nonsense.

In the end it was not the Idea of the girls to hold the ball for 6+ minuets of the last 10, it was Joe Spallinas' His coaching lost that game

Not sure about the comparison, but neither coach is good, with the recruits that they are able to entice EVERY year the have fallen short by a lot, halfpenny is clinging to her job, if she cant make some noise this year or next wit the group she currently has she will be gone. oleary's record of underachieveing speaks for itself
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It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?

It comes with the territory when you get paid to have success

Yep.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?

I think that they all have a track record of success that gives them a little extra breathing room - they are proven commodities.
You cant have it both way with SS - she was "great" when all she had to work with were the kids that were handed to her and she won the CAA, but now that the players are all hers she is young and needs time? She's lucky to have a red shirt grad student from UNC or her team would be getting beat up even more
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It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?

It comes with the territory when you get paid to have success

Yep.

I'll bet it's not hot at Loyola or NU. I'll bet the biggest pressure on those two coaches is coming from themselves. Jen Adams had a great run just last year. They lost 9? senior starters from last year. It takes time to reload. Please w Amonte-Hiller. She will leave NU when she decides to.
Halfpenny is the pits lost to louisville and should have won going away ???
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's getting hot at Hofstra real hot

Yep. Forecasted high temp of 70 tomorrow.

When a team is losing it's always hot for the coach. I bet it's hot at JMU, Loyola and others. NU...not doing as well as in the past. And, using previous logic that was used in reference to SS and Hofstra, since NU, Loyola and JMU are not doing as well as they usually do it must be the girls the coach recruited. Since Amonte-Hiller, Adams and Klaes-Bawcombe have been at their schools for longer than 4 years these teams are losing with the players that this coach recruited, right?

It comes with the territory when you get paid to have success

Not as hot as some would make you think.
you freakin' jokers sound like the dbags that call Fat Francesa all day...."Hey, BOTC, first time, long time..i wanna talk about Hofstra lax and how I think they should fire their coach"...
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you freakin' jokers sound like the dbags that call Fat Francesa all day...."Hey, BOTC, first time, long time..i wanna talk about Hofstra lax and how I think they should fire their coach"...

Hey BS, how are you? Glad to see you are still reading BOTC. HOw does it feel to be on two sinking ships.
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SS good coach, Hofstra no talent

they're all her players at this point
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Here you go: The Professors Rankings

1. Maryland
2. Florida
3. Louisville
4. North Carolina
5. Syracuse
6. Princeton
7. Stony Brook
8. Notre Dame
9. Stanford
10. Virginia
11. Penn State
12. Towson
13. Boston College
14. Northwestern
15. UConn
16. Southern Cal
17. Umass
18. Temple
20. Loyola

Others schools considered

Vanderbilt
Penn
Duke
Delaware
Hopkins
Elon

Again very accurate. Did not have Duke in the Top 20 (Duke lost again to an unranked team). Had Loyola at 20 with loosing record but brutal schedule (Loyola beat Virginia)

Georgetown is probably better than their record and should be given consideration.
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Mkvele not involved in your squabble but you are a piece of work Sounds like you personal dislike warps your honest opinion. Regardless move on its annoying

You got it part way correct , he is a piece of something .
i have friends whose daughters are now in college and played for Shannon. These are fathers who are lax guys. They all loved having their daughters learn from SS. Current HS players in my town play for her right now and respect her. The problem at HU is similar to NYC basketball. All the great players have nice options going out of state and usually take those options. Also there seems to be a bias against her as SS always has to play tough non conference games (maryland this year, I think UNC last year) she is a fine coach doing a great job. haters are probably parents of kids who did not measure up or like to go around yelling "fear the bee" removing all doubt that you are a loser living vicariously through your children.
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Mkvele not involved in your squabble but you are a piece of work Sounds like you personal dislike warps your honest opinion. Regardless move on its annoying

You got it part way correct , he is a piece of something .
Coming from a coward throwing insults from the shadow of anonymity I'll take that as a complement.....you are no better than a thug sucker punching an old lady
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i have friends whose daughters are now in college and played for Shannon. These are fathers who are lax guys. They all loved having their daughters learn from SS. Current HS players in my town play for her right now and respect her. The problem at HU is similar to NYC basketball. All the great players have nice options going out of state and usually take those options. Also there seems to be a bias against her as SS always has to play tough non conference games (maryland this year, I think UNC last year) she is a fine coach doing a great job. haters are probably parents of kids who did not measure up or like to go around yelling "fear the bee" removing all doubt that you are a loser living vicariously through your children.

Agreed. Thank you.
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i have friends whose daughters are now in college and played for Shannon. These are fathers who are lax guys. They all loved having their daughters learn from SS. Current HS players in my town play for her right now and respect her. The problem at HU is similar to NYC basketball. All the great players have nice options going out of state and usually take those options. Also there seems to be a bias against her as SS always has to play tough non conference games (maryland this year, I think UNC last year) she is a fine coach doing a great job. haters are probably parents of kids who did not measure up or like to go around yelling "fear the bee" removing all doubt that you are a loser living vicariously through your children.

Seriously, her club is dying and so is her college program. How do you measure a great job when you are coaching D1 program if not in wins. Your comment about the non-conference games and a bias is just ignorant.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i have friends whose daughters are now in college and played for Shannon. These are fathers who are lax guys. They all loved having their daughters learn from SS. Current HS players in my town play for her right now and respect her. The problem at HU is similar to NYC basketball. All the great players have nice options going out of state and usually take those options. Also there seems to be a bias against her as SS always has to play tough non conference games (maryland this year, I think UNC last year) she is a fine coach doing a great job. haters are probably parents of kids who did not measure up or like to go around yelling "fear the bee" removing all doubt that you are a loser living vicariously through your children.

And yet some current top players find her rude, condescending and spoiled brat. She should be able to grab TG players, but it appears that a number are considering leaving and others rescinding their verbals. Let's see what today brings, hopefully they finally win which will help with team moral.
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.
If you asked 50% of the girls currently playing in D1 they would tell you that they are not happy playing in college and that it is more like a job that they have to do because their parents make them. They would also tell you they do not like their coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you asked 50% of the girls currently playing in D1 they would tell you that they are not happy playing in college and that it is more like a job that they have to do because their parents make them. They would also tell you they do not like their coach.

I would agree with that as well. Not liking a head coach is not a situation unique to just HU, although the YJ parents are trying to make us believe it.
Well I sure am glad that the Syracuse fans finally got a home game against the Terps. they spent the whole game whining last year about home cooking blah blah blah.

Well how was lunch today???

You have a good team but shut up and stop whining. Well here come the yellow cards, what a surprise.
StonyBrook loses again! The great coach is not producing!
So just when you think Northwestern was going to slip away, they go and beat SB. Close game, SB had lead at half.
Northwestern over Stony Brook. Duke crushes Louisville. Virginia takes UNC to OT. Can we now put to bed the NU is not a top 15, 20, 30 team? What it looks like is there are a couple of very top teams, and a whole lot of very good teams that on any given day can beat one another. And then there is Maryland.
There is Maryland and everyone else. That's the reality of it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is Maryland and everyone else. That's the reality of it

Florida will give Maryland all they can handle, its those two teams and then everyone else
Originally Posted by Anonymous
StonyBrook loses again! The great coach is not producing!

Cool. Where's all the YJ lemmings now? They seem quick to bash HU when they lose, but all I hear are YJ crickets when SB loses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just glad to see the better coached team win it!
Maryland with a excellent win, the team to beat. FLA next week, preview of Memorial Day

Anyone that knows the history of Gait knows the freelance style of play that made hie who he is.... that hurt today, sloppy passing and bad decisions, great players that need structure. In need of a goalie with set feet.

What happened to Louisville..... still 7-1 but a loss to duke looks bad.

UNC in trouble without Maggie, need to recruit better, early recruiting is a bad here. '17 a long way off

NU and SB---- wanted NU to win but neither a real threat. SB over achieved last year Nu still on a down slope someone had to win

Still believe in ND

and you doubted Umass
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Maryland with a excellent win, the team to beat. FLA next week, preview of Memorial Day

Anyone that knows the history of Gait knows the freelance style of play that made hie who he is.... that hurt today, sloppy passing and bad decisions, great players that need structure. In need of a goalie with set feet.

What happened to Louisville..... still 7-1 but a loss to duke looks bad.

UNC in trouble without Maggie, need to recruit better, early recruiting is a bad here. '17 a long way off

NU and SB---- wanted NU to win but neither a real threat. SB over achieved last year Nu still on a down slope someone had to win

Still believe in ND

and you doubted Umass

Agree with all of that.
Except for 1) Maryland and 2) Florida, there seems to be a rash of mediocrity this season. Towson looking good, JMU down, Hofstra down (but really young, look out next year), Louisville looking better finally, Loyola-who knows?, USC-who knows?, NU-again, who knows?, Elon (yes I said it) surprising a little, Michigan-still waiting, Army-won a couple against weak competition, but still in first year, Duke-mystery, UNC-consistently inconsistent, Penn State-winning but giving heart attacks. I know the Carter kid. Fantastic on and off the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Maryland with a excellent win, the team to beat. FLA next week, preview of Memorial Day

Anyone that knows the history of Gait knows the freelance style of play that made hie who he is.... that hurt today, sloppy passing and bad decisions, great players that need structure. In need of a goalie with set feet.

What happened to Louisville..... still 7-1 but a loss to duke looks bad.

UNC in trouble without Maggie, need to recruit better, early recruiting is a bad here. '17 a long way off

NU and SB---- wanted NU to win but neither a real threat. SB over achieved last year Nu still on a down slope someone had to win

Still believe in ND

and you doubted Umass

Agree with all of that.
Except for 1) Maryland and 2) Florida, there seems to be a rash of mediocrity this season. Towson looking good, JMU down, Hofstra down (but really young, look out next year), Louisville looking better finally, Loyola-who knows?, USC-who knows?, NU-again, who knows?, Elon (yes I said it) surprising a little, Michigan-still waiting, Army-won a couple against weak competition, but still in first year, Duke-mystery, UNC-consistently inconsistent, Penn State-winning but giving heart attacks. I know the Carter kid. Fantastic on and off the field.

Not mediocrity, it's parity
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Maryland with a excellent win, the team to beat. FLA next week, preview of Memorial Day

Anyone that knows the history of Gait knows the freelance style of play that made hie who he is.... that hurt today, sloppy passing and bad decisions, great players that need structure. In need of a goalie with set feet.

What happened to Louisville..... still 7-1 but a loss to duke looks bad.

UNC in trouble without Maggie, need to recruit better, early recruiting is a bad here. '17 a long way off

NU and SB---- wanted NU to win but neither a real threat. SB over achieved last year Nu still on a down slope someone had to win

Still believe in ND

and you doubted Umass

Agree with all of that.
Except for 1) Maryland and 2) Florida, there seems to be a rash of mediocrity this season. Towson looking good, JMU down, Hofstra down (but really young, look out next year), Louisville looking better finally, Loyola-who knows?, USC-who knows?, NU-again, who knows?, Elon (yes I said it) surprising a little, Michigan-still waiting, Army-won a couple against weak competition, but still in first year, Duke-mystery, UNC-consistently inconsistent, Penn State-winning but giving heart attacks. I know the Carter kid. Fantastic on and off the field.
You say mediocrity... I say parity. So many teams to choose from. When you get quality kids that get offers from smaller schools for twice the money than the traditional powerhouses offer this is what happens. There are very good kids on almost every roster. the Florida's' and Maryland's will always get the top kids, but now very good players have an opportunity to go someplace and play, not cheerlead from the sidelines for four years and watch the same 16 girls rotate in and out. SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army. Because of this girls now have a better chance to get the degrees they really want and still play
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Maryland with a excellent win, the team to beat. FLA next week, preview of Memorial Day

Anyone that knows the history of Gait knows the freelance style of play that made hie who he is.... that hurt today, sloppy passing and bad decisions, great players that need structure. In need of a goalie with set feet.

What happened to Louisville..... still 7-1 but a loss to duke looks bad.

UNC in trouble without Maggie, need to recruit better, early recruiting is a bad here. '17 a long way off

NU and SB---- wanted NU to win but neither a real threat. SB over achieved last year Nu still on a down slope someone had to win

Still believe in ND

and you doubted Umass

Agree with all of that.
Except for 1) Maryland and 2) Florida, there seems to be a rash of mediocrity this season. Towson looking good, JMU down, Hofstra down (but really young, look out next year), Louisville looking better finally, Loyola-who knows?, USC-who knows?, NU-again, who knows?, Elon (yes I said it) surprising a little, Michigan-still waiting, Army-won a couple against weak competition, but still in first year, Duke-mystery, UNC-consistently inconsistent, Penn State-winning but giving heart attacks. I know the Carter kid. Fantastic on and off the field.
You say mediocrity... I say parity. So many teams to choose from. When you get quality kids that get offers from smaller schools for twice the money than the traditional powerhouses offer this is what happens. There are very good kids on almost every roster. the Florida's' and Maryland's will always get the top kids, but now very good players have an opportunity to go someplace and play, not cheerlead from the sidelines for four years and watch the same 16 girls rotate in and out. SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army. Because of this girls now have a better chance to get the degrees they really want and still play

Good post MKVELE I agree think the parity is really good for the sport. There are so many great players out there. Duke loses to Elon, Elon loses to Vandy, then Duke beats Louisville (who maybe was a little overrated ). As great as Florida is playing ranked 2 the have one goal wins over Unc, Cuse and Stony Brook, so they could go either way. If Maryland was removed from equation, Florida , Unc, ND, NU, SB, UVA, Princeton,Penn st, (maybe I'm missing a few. (Anyone could beat anyone which I think is great
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
Stop the squabbles Parity in women's lacrosse is awesome !! Regardless of if its army Towson whoever
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
I don't know why you have a problem with me, but I now see your agenda.

The SB comment was meant this way (seeing as you couldn't figure it out yourself), SB not being a traditional powerhouse gave good players an alternative place to play and excel, which they have, as opposed to sitting on a bench fighting for a spot. Elon, Army, High Point, also examples of the same situation, and have surprised some people, but will not surprise anyone next year.

I have only ever said the woman at SB are playing well and never disparaged any of them, and I have never said anything about the YJ. I have stated my dislike for JS, but that is my opinion and stand by it. I don't like the guy and think he's over rated so what, how does that effect your life, why do you care are you the head of the Joe Spallina fan club, do you get paid by the amount of people that like him, I'm confused

You are very hostile, and maybe seek some help to calm down a bit, relax I'm a nobody that is beneath you right
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

ALL coaches are crazy when their team is young, not playing well and not winning. But, stay the course and good things will happen. You know who's considered "crazy" coaches? The coach at Wintrop, Michigan and Louisville. Oh, and almost EVERY other coach I can think of. But those three take the cake as far as I'm concerned. They've been at their positions for years too. SS...pay no attention to the YJ agenda. Coach your team your way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

Dude? You watch Dance Mom's? I wouldn't tell any of your friends that if I were you. Did CR tell you it's okay to watch it, or did you go "rogue"?
OK so we are a few weeks in. Do you take the 6 teams that have won the last 20 national championships or is this the year to take the field?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

You want an example of lunatic screaming on the sidelines? Try listening to just about any club coach during the summer. The difference between them and a college coach is that for the vast majority of the club coaches it is not their only job. For a college coach it's their job, with a lot riding on each game. Also, go to a men's game and listen to those coaches...it's crazy, yet nobody says anything about them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK so we are a few weeks in. Do you take the 6 teams that have won the last 20 national championships or is this the year to take the field?

Right now, today? Maryland.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

ALL coaches are crazy when their team is young, not playing well and not winning. But, stay the course and good things will happen. You know who's considered "crazy" coaches? The coach at Wintrop, Michigan and Louisville. Oh, and almost EVERY other coach I can think of. But those three take the cake as far as I'm concerned. They've been at their positions for years too. SS...pay no attention to the YJ agenda. Coach your team your way.

Stop with the excuses already - she's in over her head until proven otherwise
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

You want an example of lunatic screaming on the sidelines? Try listening to just about any club coach during the summer. The difference between them and a college coach is that for the vast majority of the club coaches it is not their only job. For a college coach it's their job, with a lot riding on each game. Also, go to a men's game and listen to those coaches...it's crazy, yet nobody says anything about them.

SS is a club coach, that's it. She doesn't understand the mental side of coaching. She hasn't had the experience and more importantly the time being truly mentored by a good coach as an asst. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you will be a successful coach. She has a lot of knowledge but not the wisdom to put it to good use. Her teams will continue to struggle. She just doesn't relate to her players well, She had trouble relating to teammates and other kids in general in HS as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

You want an example of lunatic screaming on the sidelines? Try listening to just about any club coach during the summer. The difference between them and a college coach is that for the vast majority of the club coaches it is not their only job. For a college coach it's their job, with a lot riding on each game. Also, go to a men's game and listen to those coaches...it's crazy, yet nobody says anything about them.

SS is a club coach, that's it. She doesn't understand the mental side of coaching. She hasn't had the experience and more importantly the time being truly mentored by a good coach as an asst. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you will be a successful coach. She has a lot of knowledge but not the wisdom to put it to good use. Her teams will continue to struggle. She just doesn't relate to her players well, She had trouble relating to teammates and other kids in general in HS as well.

SS won Conference Coach of the Year in 2015
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I have said before...almost ALL college coaches are not liked by everybody. Why is it such a big deal in women's college lacrosse if a coach is not universally liked? I like SS. She's not perfect but neither are you or I. Get over it and grow a set, and tell your daughter to do the same. SS will be successful. She's in only her 4th year as a coach. I know girls on her team like her. Maybe not every one of them, but most of them, and that's actually pretty good. I played college football and all of us did not like all of our coaches but you respected them and listened to them and tried your hardest to do what they told you to do. Her girls are doing the same. They have their usually tough OOC schedule. Wins are hard to get. The team is YOUNG.

Just curious how long it takes to stop using the term young or new coach? 10 years? And if you hand pick a team and they are not performing that's on you coach! The discord and misery by the majority of the team just might be because of the pyramid "wall of shame" being used, I mean come on, is SS taking cues from Abby Lee Miller? They should win today after all of the conditioning and humiliation this past week. Good luck girls, play your game and try to ignore the lunatic screaming on the sidelines.

You want an example of lunatic screaming on the sidelines? Try listening to just about any club coach during the summer. The difference between them and a college coach is that for the vast majority of the club coaches it is not their only job. For a college coach it's their job, with a lot riding on each game. Also, go to a men's game and listen to those coaches...it's crazy, yet nobody says anything about them.

SS is a club coach, that's it. She doesn't understand the mental side of coaching. She hasn't had the experience and more importantly the time being truly mentored by a good coach as an asst. Just because you were a great player doesn't mean you will be a successful coach. She has a lot of knowledge but not the wisdom to put it to good use. Her teams will continue to struggle. She just doesn't relate to her players well, She had trouble relating to teammates and other kids in general in HS as well.

SS won Conference Coach of the Year in 2015

The won with girls she inherited. They are gone and she can't handle nor has the experience with developing young players. Kind of like her club, they won early with girls she got from other clubs. Now her TG clubs is dropping into obscurity like her college team. Either way cannot develop girls. Overhyped as a coach.
It's not her fault she is young and much as a coach comes w experience !
becoming difficult to rank. Tried to take into account body of work, YTD strength of schedule, quality wins and losses to teams outside top 20. Head to head is less important than body of work at this point of the season. losing to higher ranked team should not have negative impact.

ranking 3/13

1. Maryland
2. Florida
3. North Carolina
4. Syracuse
5. Notre Dame
6. Louisville
7. Stanford
8. Princeton
9. Penn State
10. Northwestern
11. Towson
12. Stony Brook
13. Virginia
14. UMass
15. Southern Cal
16. Boston College
17. Loyola
18. Temple
20. Duke

Other teams considered:

UConn
Vandi
Penn
Delaware
Hopkins
Ohio State
Cornell
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK so we are a few weeks in. Do you take the 6 teams that have won the last 20 national championships or is this the year to take the field?

Right now, today? Maryland.

I still take the last 6 winners. Come crunch time one of the 6 will win yet again. Every year we hear about parity but no one new can win the big one
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
I don't know why you have a problem with me, but I now see your agenda.

The SB comment was meant this way (seeing as you couldn't figure it out yourself), SB not being a traditional powerhouse gave good players an alternative place to play and excel, which they have, as opposed to sitting on a bench fighting for a spot. Elon, Army, High Point, also examples of the same situation, and have surprised some people, but will not surprise anyone next year.

I have only ever said the woman at SB are playing well and never disparaged any of them, and I have never said anything about the YJ. I have stated my dislike for JS, but that is my opinion and stand by it. I don't like the guy and think he's over rated so what, how does that effect your life, why do you care are you the head of the Joe Spallina fan club, do you get paid by the amount of people that like him, I'm confused

You are very hostile, and maybe seek some help to calm down a bit, relax I'm a nobody that is beneath you right

Way to go Einstein, you now know what my agenda is after I told you what it is. Lets take a guess where your point of view is coming from. Your daughter is either going to or committed to a school that is not considered to be a top 20 lacrosse program ( good for her its nothing to be so angry about). The so called better lacrosse programs had little interest including SB and it just drives you crazy. Parity, sorry every year people come on here and say the same thing then the final four will have Syracuse , UNC, MD, NW, as 3 of the teams , throw FL in there now and you can say parity all you want and pretend that so many teams have a realistic shot at winning it all but its just not true.
Relax, playing at those schools is not for everyone , it wasn't for my kid for many reasons. The thing is I don't pretend its because my daughters program has now risen to be their equal and hate on a local program and its coach because of their success.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
I don't know why you have a problem with me, but I now see your agenda.

The SB comment was meant this way (seeing as you couldn't figure it out yourself), SB not being a traditional powerhouse gave good players an alternative place to play and excel, which they have, as opposed to sitting on a bench fighting for a spot. Elon, Army, High Point, also examples of the same situation, and have surprised some people, but will not surprise anyone next year.

I have only ever said the woman at SB are playing well and never disparaged any of them, and I have never said anything about the YJ. I have stated my dislike for JS, but that is my opinion and stand by it. I don't like the guy and think he's over rated so what, how does that effect your life, why do you care are you the head of the Joe Spallina fan club, do you get paid by the amount of people that like him, I'm confused

You are very hostile, and maybe seek some help to calm down a bit, relax I'm a nobody that is beneath you right

Way to go Einstein, you now know what my agenda is after I told you what it is. Lets take a guess where your point of view is coming from. Your daughter is either going to or committed to a school that is not considered to be a top 20 lacrosse program ( good for her its nothing to be so angry about). The so called better lacrosse programs had little interest including SB and it just drives you crazy. Parity, sorry every year people come on here and say the same thing then the final four will have Syracuse , UNC, MD, NW, as 3 of the teams , throw FL in there now and you can say parity all you want and pretend that so many teams have a realistic shot at winning it all but its just not true.
Relax, playing at those schools is not for everyone , it wasn't for my kid for many reasons. The thing is I don't pretend its because my daughters program has now risen to be their equal and hate on a local program and its coach because of their success.

Parity? Not really you are right. In the last 25 years on 5 programs have won. Thank about that just 5 programs. Maryland 11, Northwestern 7, Virginia, 3 Princeton 3, UNC 1

So if your daughter went to the 3oth best team for more cash and the academic major of her choice that's GREAT, but history shows she probably wont be competeing for the national crown
"Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls" .

were you aware that the Army womens bball team just finished the regular season 29-2?...and that they just captured the Patriot League Championship?...going to NCAA tournament?
so to say that a particular ARMY team will "struggle" to be successful is crap. yes, it takes a special kid to do it, but to say that the lax program will struggle is just non-sense
Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if your daughter went to the 3oth best team for more cash and the academic major of her choice that's GREAT, but history shows she probably wont be competeing for the national crown

Speaking of competing for a National Crown. Let's say Syracuse wins, does all 54 of those girls on the team get a championship ring?
What would be better, playing on a National Championship Syracuse team and being on the bottom part of the roster, or going to a mid-level but competitive in their conference Div. 1 school?

At the end it is all about your education and the experience right?

(These are all serious questions, and I love watching Syracuse play, so I am not bashing them or any of their players, who all contribute in one way or another).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if your daughter went to the 3oth best team for more cash and the academic major of her choice that's GREAT, but history shows she probably wont be competeing for the national crown

Speaking of competing for a National Crown. Let's say Syracuse wins, does all 54 of those girls on the team get a championship ring?
What would be better, playing on a National Championship Syracuse team and being on the bottom part of the roster, or going to a mid-level but competitive in their conference Div. 1 school?

At the end it is all about your education and the experience right?

(These are all serious questions, and I love watching Syracuse play, so I am not bashing them or any of their players, who all contribute in one way or another).

It's not really an answerable question. It depends on the kid and what makes them tick and what they want out of the experience. I've had kids go through both situations, and in my opinion, each was right for them. I've had a child choose a D3 program over some D1 situations where the playing time and the college experience wasn't going to be what they wanted. I've had another one "stretch" to a program in a different sport and test themselves at that level and enjoy the pursuit. That kid has had mixed results athletically, is getting a great education and wouldn't trade playing with and against the best for a situation where they could walk in and start from day 1. Different strokes for different folks. Everyone always seems to have "THE" answer on this stuff. There isn't one right one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
I don't know why you have a problem with me, but I now see your agenda.

The SB comment was meant this way (seeing as you couldn't figure it out yourself), SB not being a traditional powerhouse gave good players an alternative place to play and excel, which they have, as opposed to sitting on a bench fighting for a spot. Elon, Army, High Point, also examples of the same situation, and have surprised some people, but will not surprise anyone next year.

I have only ever said the woman at SB are playing well and never disparaged any of them, and I have never said anything about the YJ. I have stated my dislike for JS, but that is my opinion and stand by it. I don't like the guy and think he's over rated so what, how does that effect your life, why do you care are you the head of the Joe Spallina fan club, do you get paid by the amount of people that like him, I'm confused

You are very hostile, and maybe seek some help to calm down a bit, relax I'm a nobody that is beneath you right

Way to go Einstein, you now know what my agenda is after I told you what it is. Lets take a guess where your point of view is coming from. Your daughter is either going to or committed to a school that is not considered to be a top 20 lacrosse program ( good for her its nothing to be so angry about). The so called better lacrosse programs had little interest including SB and it just drives you crazy. Parity, sorry every year people come on here and say the same thing then the final four will have Syracuse , UNC, MD, NW, as 3 of the teams , throw FL in there now and you can say parity all you want and pretend that so many teams have a realistic shot at winning it all but its just not true.
Relax, playing at those schools is not for everyone , it wasn't for my kid for many reasons. The thing is I don't pretend its because my daughters program has now risen to be their equal and hate on a local program and its coach because of their success.
OK so your daughter goes to Stony Brook, good for her, I hope she does well. I truly hope she's one of the girls that get playing time because everyone knows that JS has his favorites and thats who plays. But seriously good luck to her. It also explains your silly statement about the YJ's. Your right about only 5 teams winning national title. I have to believe that, just like SB did, other schools will start making there mark on the sport and pushing there way closer to Memorial Day. But remember SB isn't unique in this, Loyola was the same way to name another, they had there run but are now struggling. James Madison is another. As far as my daughter goes, I will never let anyone on this thread know where she goes, not because I'm embarrassed, or because I don't think she is good enough. Believe me I am extremely proud of my daughter and the choices, and sacrifices she has made, but rather because to us it is an extremely personal thing. The only clue you will get is that this will not be the first program she has helped to succeed from a lesser situation, just like yours. Please understand that hating me because I dislike JS is just silly. I have my reasons and if you knew what they were even you would understand. As far as the season for SB goes you have USC, Del, Stanford and the Hop left. You need to sweep to be considered for an at large IF you should lose to Albany in AE. Lose 2 of them and you're will probably rank under 20
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you really trying to say that army has a successful womens lax program already ? Glad they got a couple wins but are a long way from being considered competitive with any descent team and it will be a struggle for them to ever become so . Takes a unique kid to want to go thru that especially on the girls .
OK you're kidding right, is your reading comprehension so low that you didn't understand either post.No one said Army has a "successful" program so what are you talking about. One poster said they won a couple, I said that there an option to play at. where did you get a Successful program from that whats your agenda

Because you have elected to respond in such a douchy manner I will now make it a point to respond to your posts pointing out what seems to be in general a very ignorant view .
"SB was the shinning example of this last year but now there are more like Elon, and Army"
Now my agenda will simply be to point out what a moron you are.Your anti YJ,anti SB, anti Spallina agenda is obvious.
I don't know why you have a problem with me, but I now see your agenda.

The SB comment was meant this way (seeing as you couldn't figure it out yourself), SB not being a traditional powerhouse gave good players an alternative place to play and excel, which they have, as opposed to sitting on a bench fighting for a spot. Elon, Army, High Point, also examples of the same situation, and have surprised some people, but will not surprise anyone next year.

I have only ever said the woman at SB are playing well and never disparaged any of them, and I have never said anything about the YJ. I have stated my dislike for JS, but that is my opinion and stand by it. I don't like the guy and think he's over rated so what, how does that effect your life, why do you care are you the head of the Joe Spallina fan club, do you get paid by the amount of people that like him, I'm confused

You are very hostile, and maybe seek some help to calm down a bit, relax I'm a nobody that is beneath you right

Way to go Einstein, you now know what my agenda is after I told you what it is. Lets take a guess where your point of view is coming from. Your daughter is either going to or committed to a school that is not considered to be a top 20 lacrosse program ( good for her its nothing to be so angry about). The so called better lacrosse programs had little interest including SB and it just drives you crazy. Parity, sorry every year people come on here and say the same thing then the final four will have Syracuse , UNC, MD, NW, as 3 of the teams , throw FL in there now and you can say parity all you want and pretend that so many teams have a realistic shot at winning it all but its just not true.
Relax, playing at those schools is not for everyone , it wasn't for my kid for many reasons. The thing is I don't pretend its because my daughters program has now risen to be their equal and hate on a local program and its coach because of their success.
OK so your daughter goes to Stony Brook, good for her, I hope she does well. I truly hope she's one of the girls that get playing time because everyone knows that JS has his favorites and thats who plays. But seriously good luck to her. It also explains your silly statement about the YJ's. Your right about only 5 teams winning national title. I have to believe that, just like SB did, other schools will start making there mark on the sport and pushing there way closer to Memorial Day. But remember SB isn't unique in this, Loyola was the same way to name another, they had there run but are now struggling. James Madison is another. As far as my daughter goes, I will never let anyone on this thread know where she goes, not because I'm embarrassed, or because I don't think she is good enough. Believe me I am extremely proud of my daughter and the choices, and sacrifices she has made, but rather because to us it is an extremely personal thing. The only clue you will get is that this will not be the first program she has helped to succeed from a lesser situation, just like yours. Please understand that hating me because I dislike JS is just silly. I have my reasons and if you knew what they were even you would understand. As far as the season for SB goes you have USC, Del, Stanford and the Hop left. You need to sweep to be considered for an at large IF you should lose to Albany in AE. Lose 2 of them and you're will probably rank under 20

JS is getting what he deserves! He loves to run around bragging, only plays a small number of girls, and is not humble at all. We and US are losing games, bottom line!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems to me the only person having a hard time with my posts is you. You are a typical venom spewing lacrosse parent that hates anyone that doesn't subscribe to your opinion. The only person I said I dislike or have said anything negative about,is JS and the only one that seems to take offense to it is you.
You JS haters make me laugh. What coach doesn't play his favorites which equal best players. College is not high school. Maybe you should get on with your lives.

The good news for the coach is that no one hates the mediocre ones. Just the great ones. Talk is good, whether it is bad or good.
Not many teams go beyond 15 kids in a game if you look so it isn't uncommon. I have to say it annoys me as well and I'm not a hater or supporter. You've told everyone you dislike him move on It's the fact you keep reverting back to it. We get it move on and everyone is happy
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems to me the only person having a hard time with my posts is you. You are a typical venom spewing lacrosse parent that hates anyone that doesn't subscribe to your opinion. The only person I said I dislike or have said anything negative about,is JS and the only one that seems to take offense to it is you.

Looks like you MKVELE is the "typical venom spewing lacrosse parent that hates anyone that doesn't subscribe to your opinion."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?

Who is this guy? Is it that registered angry dude?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
So what you make 2, believe me if the moderators thought I was wrong they would,t have edited the post. How would you react if someone attacked your daughter over YOUR opinion. I said nothing about the player prior to you\them attacking my daughter, should I just lay down and accept your attack because of the jersey your daughter wears. So moderators take down my response also since the thin skinned can't take there own medicine. Ban me because they said so if thats what you think should happen. What kind of person attacks a young woman on this site.... apparently you and your friends, you just don't expect people to fight back
Mkvele attacked another girl on a previous post
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mkvele attacked another girl on a previous post

I better not see anyone Attack any girl.
What about SB loosing 3 in a row? Coach??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mkvele attacked another girl on a previous post
who. since your so good at quoting posts, quote on where I attacked, or singled out any girl prior to post #153330
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
So what you make 2, believe me if the moderators thought I was wrong they would,t have edited the post. How would you react if someone attacked your daughter over YOUR opinion. I said nothing about the player prior to you\them attacking my daughter, should I just lay down and accept your attack because of the jersey your daughter wears. So moderators take down my response also since the thin skinned can't take there own medicine. Ban me because they said so if thats what you think should happen. What kind of person attacks a young woman on this site.... apparently you and your friends, you just don't expect people to fight back

Why are so angry? I didn't read that anyone was knocking your daughter? You keep bashing top programs and come across high and mighty but you know it's really not hard to figure out who you are an where your daughter plays.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
So on a completely unrelated topic..... doe's anyone els think the officiating is atrocious, Why can't they just let every player move on stoppage like in the mens game there is no safety issue in this, the fast start is horrible. Is it just me or are the refs not consistent with there calls, this is why the game gets a bum rap....

UMass top 15? The have two tough games and have already lost one of them - there schedule is very easy
Oh my god mom can't you let it go. OK you are right a team with 3 losses is defiantly a top 15 team...... no,no a top 5 team how could I dare say your sweet darling and her team are not on the same level ad Maryland, I mean what was I thinking it's not like there losing. Your little prodigy did so well at her public.......oh wait no she didn't thats why you sent her to the privet... but that was the coaches fault or so I heard you say at UA. I'm sorry I will never again turn down your help in trying to straighten me out with your idea of the facts. let me revise my list.

1. Northwestern
2. Northwestern
3. Northwestern
4. Northwestern
5. Northwestern
6. wait there is no one els list done

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
So what you make 2, believe me if the moderators thought I was wrong they would,t have edited the post. How would you react if someone attacked your daughter over YOUR opinion. I said nothing about the player prior to you\them attacking my daughter, should I just lay down and accept your attack because of the jersey your daughter wears. So moderators take down my response also since the thin skinned can't take there own medicine. Ban me because they said so if thats what you think should happen. What kind of person attacks a young woman on this site.... apparently you and your friends, you just don't expect people to fight back

Why are so angry? I didn't read that anyone was knocking your daughter? You keep bashing top programs and come across high and mighty but you know it's really not hard to figure out who you are an where your daughter plays.

Why are so angry? I didn't read that anyone was knocking your daughter? You keep bashing top programs and come across high and mighty but you know it's really not hard to figure out who you are an where your daughter plays. [/quote]go ahead name us both [/quote]

You are TG, daughter position DELETEDgood enough?
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mkvele attacked another girl on a previous post
who. since your so good at quoting posts, quote on where I attacked, or singled out any girl prior to post #153330

So you know this is a different person who thinks you are an idiot the one who told you about his agenda.Your above post should read " show me where I have been a [lacrosse] prior to being a [lacrosse] ". The fact that you singled out or attacked any girl on here and you know it but refuse to apologize for it tells everyone what they need to know about you.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mkvele attacked another girl on a previous post
who. since your so good at quoting posts, quote on where I attacked, or singled out any girl prior to post #153330

you didn't. and nobody said anything about your daughter prior to you attacking that girl and her mother. So if you don't want people going after you, don't incite it. It is absolutely ridiculous to do something like that, and then turn around and complain when it comes back to bite you. I am moving on ... you should too.
uh no
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
So what you make 2, believe me if the moderators thought I was wrong they would,t have edited the post. How would you react if someone attacked your daughter over YOUR opinion. I said nothing about the player prior to you\them attacking my daughter, should I just lay down and accept your attack because of the jersey your daughter wears. So moderators take down my response also since the thin skinned can't take there own medicine. Ban me because they said so if thats what you think should happen. What kind of person attacks a young woman on this site.... apparently you and your friends, you just don't expect people to fight back [/quote]

Why are so angry? I didn't read that anyone was knocking your daughter? You keep bashing top programs and come across high and mighty but you know it's really not hard to figure out who you are an where your daughter plays. [/quote]go ahead name us both [/quote]

You are TG, daughter position DELETEDgood enough? [/quote]wrong, and for the rest of you the post attacking my daughter was deleted But seeing as the moderators wont speak up her I will paraphrase the poster called my daughter stupid, and untalented etc... all because I didn't list NU in a list. s moderators put the post back up let these people see it I never asked for you to take it down or edit it
Originally Posted by MKVELE
uh no
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope ... that poster is not the only one that has a problem with you. You attacked a specific student-athlete on this thread. As a reminder here it is, post #153330. Then you complained to the Moderator that people were attacking YOUR daughter and Mod dutifully edited out those general statements about your daughter who nobody knows. Mod, I believe you ought to have kicked this guy off the site for the post above. Many on Long Island know exactly who he is talking about. An amazing young woman btw. What kind of person specifically attacks a young woman on this site, and then turns around and screams at the response?
So what you make 2, believe me if the moderators thought I was wrong they would,t have edited the post. How would you react if someone attacked your daughter over YOUR opinion. I said nothing about the player prior to you\them attacking my daughter, should I just lay down and accept your attack because of the jersey your daughter wears. So moderators take down my response also since the thin skinned can't take there own medicine. Ban me because they said so if thats what you think should happen. What kind of person attacks a young woman on this site.... apparently you and your friends, you just don't expect people to fight back

Why are so angry? I didn't read that anyone was knocking your daughter? You keep bashing top programs and come across high and mighty but you know it's really not hard to figure out who you are an where your daughter plays. [/quote]go ahead name us both [/quote]

You are TG, daughter position DELETEDgood enough? [/quote]wrong, and for the rest of you the post attacking my daughter was deleted But seeing as the moderators wont speak up her I will paraphrase the poster called my daughter stupid, and untalented etc... all because I didn't list NU in a list. s moderators put the post back up let these people see it I never asked for you to take it down or edit it [/quote]

I don't care what you did or didn't ask for. I deleted it because I wanted to. You need to stop with all of your anger and attacks. It's getting old already and you are annoying everyone including me. I honestly feel sorry for your daughter. Maybe you need a little rest.
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?
IWLCA Poll for Division I, March 14
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 5-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 8-0 377 2
3 Syracuse 6-2 352 3
4 North Carolina 5-2 349 4
5 Notre Dame 8-1 308 6
6 Louisville 7-1 274 5
7 Princeton 4-1 271 7
8 Penn State 6-1 251 9
9 Virginia 4-4 239 8
10 Northwestern 3-3 221 11
11 Stony Brook 2-2 198 10
12 Southern California 4-0 194 12
13 Duke 5-4 149 15
14 Stanford 4-1 138 13
15 Boston College 5-3 111 14
16 Penn 5-1 109 16
17 Towson 6-0 81 18
18 Ohio State 6-1 64 17
19 Johns Hopkins 5-3 41 19
20 Massachusetts 5-1
IWLCA Poll for Division II, March 14
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 3-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 3-0 378 2
3 Lindenwood 7-0 352 3
4 LIU Post 3-1 339 5
5 Rollins 6-0 317 6
6 New Haven 2-1 309 4
7 Lock Haven 4-0 249 8
8 West Chester 4-0 237 9
9 Grand Valley State 2-3 233 11
10 Florida Southern 5-2 222 12
11 Mercyhurst 3-1 216 10
12 Limestone 5-1 210 7
13 Dowling 3-1 138 16
14 Queens 5-1 128 14
15 Stonehill 1-1 110 13
16 Regis (CO) 4-1 95 18
17 Seton Hill. 1-3 90 15
18 Bentley 1-2 82 19
19 Mount Olive 7-2 48 17
20 Saint Anselm 1-0
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 14
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 4-0 400 20 1
2 Franklin & Marshall 4-0 368 3
3 Trinity (CT) 4-0 358 2
4 Middlebury 4-0 343 4
5 Gettysburg 5-0 314 6
6 College of NJ. 4-0 309 5
7 Salisbury 5-1 287 7
8 [lacrosse] 4-2 254 8
9 Tufts 2-1 218 10
10 Colby 1-1 187 11
11 Hamilton 2-1 176 13
12 Amherst 1-1 161 9
13 Messiah n n. 3-2 146 14
14 St. John Fisher 4-0 145 15
15 Mary Washington 8-0 125 16
16 Bates 5-0 110 NR
17 Bowdoin 1-2 62 12
18 Washington College 3-0 52 19
19 Brockport 4-0 51 19
20 Union 1-1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?

Lots of teams look good on paper. Getting a good recruit doesn't equal a championship. Cuse and Florida continually bring in top recruits and only have a sniff to show for it and they bring them in on teams that are close to begin with. Would love to see her do it, just highly skeptical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?

Lots of teams look good on paper. Getting a good recruit doesn't equal a championship. Cuse and Florida continually bring in top recruits and only have a sniff to show for it and they bring them in on teams that are close to begin with. Would love to see her do it, just highly skeptical.

They r putting up a lot of goals. 14 against Stony Brook is impressive when Florida and NU could only muster 7. They r pretty darn good. Not saying they r there yet, but on the way to some pretty good things.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?

Lots of teams look good on paper. Getting a good recruit doesn't equal a championship. Cuse and Florida continually bring in top recruits and only have a sniff to show for it and they bring them in on teams that are close to begin with. Would love to see her do it, just highly skeptical.

They r putting up a lot of goals. 14 against Stony Brook is impressive when Florida and NU could only muster 7. They r pretty darn good. Not saying they r there yet, but on the way to some pretty good things.

they play up tempo with limited stall they are going to be in good shape with the shot clock
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?

That's a nice dream, but it aint happening this year
USC has come a long way in a short amount of time but jumping up to the next level with the best ACC schools, Florida,and Maryland is a big feat. The PAC 12 conference will not give them the level of competition they need.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC looks like the real deal. Young Jedi has learned well. With a great pipeline of recruits (KM and others) they could be the team to break the 5 in 20 years as Champs. Would be quite the story. Great player turned coach takes a non-hotbed school from nothing to National Championship in 4 years. Sound familiar?

That's a nice dream, but it aint happening this year

Top 5 again this year, sorry everyone else is a wannabe
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC has come a long way in a short amount of time but jumping up to the next level with the best ACC schools, Florida,and Maryland is a big feat. The PAC 12 conference will not give them the level of competition they need.
Don't sleep on Stanford.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC has come a long way in a short amount of time but jumping up to the next level with the best ACC schools, Florida,and Maryland is a big feat. The PAC 12 conference will not give them the level of competition they need.
Don't sleep on Stanford.

USC has done a nice job but I don't think they are in the top 10 and will struggle to get there. I will believe more in them when they win that big one on the road . I am also curious how much some of these teams are impacted by the travel and California experience when they go to the left coast to play . Hopefully their success will have an impact on lax in general in Cali but watching a few of the games it looked like they had about 10 fans in attendance . Their schedule is pretty weak so the true test will come at the end of the season .
USC has great weather and actually a pretty easy travel schedule with about 4 plane rides so even though their attendance is low I think they will still be attractive to players.

Watching the Denver men win it all really expanded the geographic footprint of the sport but on the girls side they have a terrible schedule with 8 or more plane trips.

The travel is a big deal especially when its added on to the 5 or 6 hours the teams are already together everyday. Every time you jump on a plane its 2 days of school. And this is why girls are guided to certain majors. It isn't for everyone
Originally Posted by Anonymous
USC has great weather and actually a pretty easy travel schedule with about 4 plane rides so even though their attendance is low I think they will still be attractive to players.

Watching the Denver men win it all really expanded the geographic footprint of the sport but on the girls side they have a terrible schedule with 8 or more plane trips.

The travel is a big deal especially when its added on to the 5 or 6 hours the teams are already together everyday. Every time you jump on a plane its 2 days of school. And this is why girls are guided to certain majors. It isn't for everyone

Fair points. I think USC and other west coast teams will continue to improve, albeit it will be choppy, not a straight line. W Arizona State entering the fray, I believe the Pac 12 will have 6 teams and form their own conference? I will bet UCLA adds at some point. This will meaningfully grow the game out west, reduce travel times and in a 5-10 year timeframe, I predict there will be a Western Champ. USC, however, in the meantime may be a final 8 type team this year or next. I think they are top 10 this year. They may not get the seeding they need based on SOS to get through to final 8 tho.
Would like to wish my alma mater Hofstra good luck on Saturday against Quinnipiac, shoould be an easy victory and the moral booster the coach and girls need!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Would like to wish my alma mater Hofstra good luck on Saturday against Quinnipiac, shoould be an easy victory and the moral booster the coach and girls need!

TBD!
I just saw a cool article this morning on why everyone watches march madness college basketball. It's because they have had 16 different winners in the last 25 years compared to just 5 in women's lacrosse. Women's college basketball is also referenced saying they are going backwards. They had 13 winners in 25 years but the last 10 have been bad for the sport with just a few winners. Other sports needs to spread the wealth around so popularity increases.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just saw a cool article this morning on why everyone watches march madness college basketball. It's because they have had 16 different winners in the last 25 years compared to just 5 in women's lacrosse. Women's college basketball is also referenced saying they are going backwards. They had 13 winners in 25 years but the last 10 have been bad for the sport with just a few winners. Other sports needs to spread the wealth around so popularity increases.

Lacrosse is a mere infant compared to BAsketball in terms of popularity and growing the game. Lax is where W basketball was 20-22 years ago when title IX kicked in. Big schools with big funding are adding teams, and in time the sport will enjoy that parity. Rule changes such as the shot clock will add excitement to the game and bring more fans.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just saw a cool article this morning on why everyone watches march madness college basketball. It's because they have had 16 different winners in the last 25 years compared to just 5 in women's lacrosse. Women's college basketball is also referenced saying they are going backwards. They had 13 winners in 25 years but the last 10 have been bad for the sport with just a few winners. Other sports needs to spread the wealth around so popularity increases.

Lacrosse is a mere infant compared to BAsketball in terms of popularity and growing the game. Lax is where W basketball was 20-22 years ago when title IX kicked in. Big schools with big funding are adding teams, and in time the sport will enjoy that parity. Rule changes such as the shot clock will add excitement to the game and bring more fans.

If they really want to grow the game they better go the way of soccer at the younger ages. Smaller fields, less players, which forces more touches (YES Forced)need to keep average players involved at the younger ages. Too many kids are leaving the sport at young ages because bad youth coaches condone 2 girls scoring all 20 goals in a 20-8 game. Lacrosse has a bad rap at the young levels with coaches giving up on kids way too early. Cant catch in 3rd grade? got to go. Not playing travel in Kindergarten going to MD on the weekends? Got to go
Very good point regarding smaller fields and less players, more touches. good for development.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just saw a cool article this morning on why everyone watches march madness college basketball. It's because they have had 16 different winners in the last 25 years compared to just 5 in women's lacrosse. Women's college basketball is also referenced saying they are going backwards. They had 13 winners in 25 years but the last 10 have been bad for the sport with just a few winners. Other sports needs to spread the wealth around so popularity increases.

Lacrosse is a mere infant compared to BAsketball in terms of popularity and growing the game. Lax is where W basketball was 20-22 years ago when title IX kicked in. Big schools with big funding are adding teams, and in time the sport will enjoy that parity. Rule changes such as the shot clock will add excitement to the game and bring more fans.

If they really want to grow the game they better go the way of soccer at the younger ages. Smaller fields, less players, which forces more touches (YES Forced)need to keep average players involved at the younger ages. Too many kids are leaving the sport at young ages because bad youth coaches condone 2 girls scoring all 20 goals in a 20-8 game. Lacrosse has a bad rap at the young levels with coaches giving up on kids way too early. Cant catch in 3rd grade? got to go. Not playing travel in Kindergarten going to MD on the weekends? Got to go

I would still argue that by 6th grade 75% of those soccer kids quit. A lot of kids try a lot of sports but at some point you need some god given athletic ability.
Funny u should say that ... U.S. Lax has just announced new development model w exactly those things as a focus.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just saw a cool article this morning on why everyone watches march madness college basketball. It's because they have had 16 different winners in the last 25 years compared to just 5 in women's lacrosse. Women's college basketball is also referenced saying they are going backwards. They had 13 winners in 25 years but the last 10 have been bad for the sport with just a few winners. Other sports needs to spread the wealth around so popularity increases.

Lacrosse is a mere infant compared to BAsketball in terms of popularity and growing the game. Lax is where W basketball was 20-22 years ago when title IX kicked in. Big schools with big funding are adding teams, and in time the sport will enjoy that parity. Rule changes such as the shot clock will add excitement to the game and bring more fans.

If they really want to grow the game they better go the way of soccer at the younger ages. Smaller fields, less players, which forces more touches (YES Forced)need to keep average players involved at the younger ages. Too many kids are leaving the sport at young ages because bad youth coaches condone 2 girls scoring all 20 goals in a 20-8 game. Lacrosse has a bad rap at the young levels with coaches giving up on kids way too early. Cant catch in 3rd grade? got to go. Not playing travel in Kindergarten going to MD on the weekends? Got to go

I would still argue that by 6th grade 75% of those soccer kids quit. A lot of kids try a lot of sports but at some point you need some god given athletic ability.

In most Northeast towns, soccer beats lacrosse head counts by 10-1 and that's a problem. We need better coaches who preach moving the ball around at the younger ages which will keep more kids in the sport longterm
How about something positive for a while... Lets hear about The college freshman from Long Island and how they are doing there first year. YJ or TG it doesn't matter..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about something positive for a while... Lets hear about The college freshman from Long Island and how they are doing there first year. YJ or TG it doesn't matter..

Great post-please include D1, 2&3 in your responses. Are they getting playing time, do they miss home, will they return next year etc
Lindsey Ronbeck (Liberty) and the Pirecca sisters (YJ) are killing it at FL!
Some other players rocking it this year:
Liberty: Nina Corcoran (UPenn), Amanda Johansen (USC), Halle Majorana (Syracuse), Haley O'Hanlon (Colgate), Julia Glynn (Harvard), Cate Soccodato (Marquette)
YJ: Courtney Fotunato (ND) Barbara Sullivan (ND) Sam Giacione (ND)

SOME OF THE BEST OF THE BEST FROM STRONG ISLAND!!!!
Good luck girls keep making us proud!
Don't forget Levy (Syr),Montalbano and Tellekamp (Towson),Apuzzo (BC), Ortega (ND) and others
riley hill marquette lindsay darrell northwestern
Both Hofstra and SB are lined up for what should be wins today. Get back on winning track.
Who's killing it on teams that have a chance of winning the national championship?
SS has been doing such a bang up job with Hofstra she has decided to add coaching the LI franchise in the new Women's Pro League, which by the way doesn't have any games on LI in their first season. Hofstra, Top Guns and LI Women......somebody is not getting full attention.
So true! All great players!!!!
Hunter Isnardi killing it at Mercy, with great supporting cast , they are 6-1 under that new coach Dawn Anselmin. She only recruits Long Island girls, and as an Adelphi stud she knows what she's doing. Tip my hat to this kid.

Go to the turnpike in Levittown and boom- you have a team that is led by a coach with record breaker awards etc, when she was a college player yet her team is struggling with her hand picked recruits. Hofstra got a much needed boast with a win they barely woke up for.

Adelphi keeps rolling along and takes no prisoners with McCabe at least be helm, tougher games coming up but I'm digging his confidence
.
Dowling playing ugly lacrosse, too many fouls take away from the game and defense needs to pass the ball. You have one job, you know better.

Molly could be the sleeper team, talent both ways buy young.

Stony Brook a power house that could humiliate Hofstra.SB roster deep with talent that is wasted on sides, let Emma play coach, dem dare girls are good.

Post is post-which way is wind blowing? No harm no foul, everyone will be happy if they come in at .500%

SUNY Farmingdale can't field a team! If you daughter/son is remotely considering a career in any subject there ( homeland security, dental hygienist, nursing) look at

this sleeper school, so many to choice from and walk on lax, soccer and hoops.
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.
Amy B. can coach, she's a great lady, funny as a hoot and a smile that lights a room. No doubt combined with the school recruiting should come easy, especially as the game develops out west
Great game yesterday between Syracuse and Boston College. I saw the freshman from WB get hurt. Any news on how bad it was?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hunter Isnardi killing it at Mercy, with great supporting cast , they are 6-1 under that new coach Dawn Anselmin. She only recruits Long Island girls, and as an Adelphi stud she knows what she's doing. Tip my hat to this kid.

Go to the turnpike in Levittown and boom- you have a team that is led by a coach with record breaker awards etc, when she was a college player yet her team is struggling with her hand picked recruits. Hofstra got a much needed boast with a win they barely woke up for.

Adelphi keeps rolling along and takes no prisoners with McCabe at least be helm, tougher games coming up but I'm digging his confidence
.
Dowling playing ugly lacrosse, too many fouls take away from the game and defense needs to pass the ball. You have one job, you know better.

Molly could be the sleeper team, talent both ways buy young.

Stony Brook a power house that could humiliate Hofstra.SB roster deep with talent that is wasted on sides, let Emma play coach, dem dare girls are good.

Post is post-which way is wind blowing? No harm no foul, everyone will be happy if they come in at .500%

SUNY Farmingdale can't field a team! If you daughter/son is remotely considering a career in any subject there ( homeland security, dental hygienist, nursing) look at

this sleeper school, so many to choice from and walk on lax, soccer and hoops.

Farmingdale is far from a walk on in soccer and other sports. All those LI kids that stay home make for stacked teams year in and year out
3/20 Ranking

1. Maryland

2 - Florida

3. Notre Dame

4. North Carolina

5. Louisville

6. Stanford

7. Southern Cal

8. Boston College

9. Syracuse

10. Northwestern

11. Penn State

12. Princeton

13. Virginia

14. Stony Brook

15. Umass

16. Loyola

17. Penn

18. Delaware

19. Towson

20. Duke

Others considered:

Temple , Colorado, UConn, Hopkins, Ohio State, Cornell
Who's underachieving and who's over acheiving so far? Hopkins cant be happy at this juncture
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who's underachieving and who's over acheiving so far? Hopkins cant be happy at this juncture

Overachieving: Louisville, Stanford, Southern Cal

Underachieving: Hofstra, Stony Brook, Duke
I think rather than saying these young women/teams are overachieving or underachieving I think it may be more a case of overestimated and underestimated. You are what you are.
Virginia 5 losses, Duke some really bad losses, I agree to some regard about Stony Brook but of their three losses they were to #2,#7 and #8 Tough close losses but losses none the less. I would also put Hopkins in there. Some teams that still rank very high have losses vs teams not in top 20. Hofstra obviously struggling losing to good and bad teams. It is one those years, anyone can win on any day minus Maryland.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Virginia 5 losses, Duke some really bad losses, I agree to some regard about Stony Brook but of their three losses they were to #2,#7 and #8 Tough close losses but losses none the less. I would also put Hopkins in there. Some teams that still rank very high have losses vs teams not in top 20. Hofstra obviously struggling losing to good and bad teams. It is one those years, anyone can win on any day minus Maryland.

Duke is supposed to be there, Hofstra is not. Still doesn't mean Hofstra isn't disappointing. Duke is a mess
IWLCA Poll for Division I, March 21
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 6-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 9-1 373 2
3 North Carolina 7-2 361 4
4 Notre Dame 9-1 333 5
5 Syracuse 7-3 320 3
6 Louisville 9-1 279 6
7 Northwestern 3-4 245 10
8 USC 7-0 233 12
9 Stanford 5-1 215 14
10 Penn State 7-2 210 8
11 Princeton 4-2 209 7
12 Boston College 6-3 197 15
13 Virginia 4-5 179 9
14 Stony Brook 4-3 165 11
15 Duke 7-4 141 13
16 Penn 6-1 101 16
17 Towson 6-2 75 17
18 Ohio State 7-1 48 18
19 Johns Hopkins 7-3 43 19
20 Massachusetts 6-1 34 20
IWLCA Poll for Division II, March 21
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 4-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 4-0 380 2
3 Lindenwood 9-0 357 3
4 LIU Post 5-1 337 4
5 Rollins 8-0 326 5
6 Lock Haven 6-0 270 7
7 Mercyhurst 5-1 264 11
8 Grand Valley State 2-3 257 9
9 West Chester 5-1 228 8
10 New Haven 3-2 216 6
11 Florida Southern 5-3 208 10
12 Limestone 6-2 184 12
13 Dowling 5-1 173 13
14 Queens 6-1 132 14
15 Stonehill 2-1 108 15
16 Regis (CO) 6-1 93 16
17 Bentley 2-3 87 18
18 Seton Hill 1-5 77 17
19 Mount Olive 7-3 45 19
20 Florida Tech 6-2 15 NR
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 21
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 5-0 400 20 1
2 Franklin & Marshall 6-0 380 2
3 Middlebury 5-0 349 4
4 College of NJ 5-0 336 6
5 Salisbury 7-1 309 7
6 Gettysburg 5-1 304 5
7 Trinity (CT) 6-1 299 3
8 [lacrosse] 6-2 257 8
9 Colby 2-1 235 10
10 Hamilton 4-1 204 11
11 Amherst 3-1 171 12
12 Messiah 4-2 159 13
13 Bates 6-1 151 16
14 Tufts 2-3 146 9
15 St. John Fisher 5-0 143 14
16 Brockport 5-0 87 19
17 Mary Washington 9-1 55 15
18 Bowdoin 2-3 48 17
19 Christopher Newport 7-1 41 NR
20 St. Mary's (MD) 7-1 29 NR
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 21
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 5-0 400 20 1
2 Franklin & Marshall 6-0 380 2
3 Middlebury 5-0 349 4
4 College of NJ 5-0 336 6
5 Salisbury 7-1 309 7
6 Gettysburg 5-1 304 5
7 Trinity (CT) 6-1 299 3
8 [lacrosse] 6-2 257 8
9 Colby 2-1 235 10
10 Hamilton 4-1 204 11
11 Amherst 3-1 171 12
12 Messiah 4-2 159 13
13 Bates 6-1 151 16
14 Tufts 2-3 146 9
15 St. John Fisher 5-0 143 14
16 Brockport 5-0 87 19
17 Mary Washington 9-1 55 15
18 Bowdoin 2-3 48 17
19 Christopher Newport 7-1 41 NR
20 St. Mary's (MD) 7-1 29 NR

NU up to #7. Great frosh goalie is keeping them in games. they need to get better on O, but might be a tough out later in the season. Tough schedule though. May be 10-6, 9-7 in regular season.
Northwestern at 3 and 4? Should not be possible to be in the top 10 if you have a losing record!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Northwestern at 3 and 4? Should not be possible to be in the top 10 if you have a losing record!

Really why? (Now 4-4 btw) I only see 1 team behind them in the poll I think deserves to be ranked ahead of them at this point (USC). So maybe an 8 ranking is more accurate, but still top 10. You see, NU plays the hardest schedule in the country. Their SOS so far this year is #1 in country. They have lost to SYR, Louisville, UNC and Virginia. The first 3 of those teams are ranked ahead of them at 3,5 &6. 12 of their 16 regular season games are against top 18 teams and 6 of those are against the other 9 top 10 teams. Are they a great team this year, no. They have many flaws. But they are a top 10 team. They will likely end the year w a 10-6 or even 9-7 record. Given their schedule, that would indicate they should be around 10th. All makes sense. Sorry you have some arbitrary poll rule about wins and losses but hopefully now you can refine your understanding with some facts. GO CATS!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

Guess you couldn't compare because you didn't go there heck you can't even spell it. Huge win for SB huge win for Cuse nice win for UNC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

Right. way to change your argument when the facts no longer support your original. Typical wanna be loser.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

You come onto a lacrosse site to say the games don't matter its all about the education. You are a moron.
I agree. Education is important and Stanford is a GREAT school but the "My school is better academically than yours" talk after a loss at this level is the talk of losers and I'll take the person with a winning attitude over anyone that justifies losing, no matter where they went to school. But that might be just me. I think your statement does not do the student athletes at Stanford justice. I am sure the Stanford girls aren't on the plane flying home giggling to themselves about Stony Brook's supposedly lack of academics compared to Stanford. If they are they deserve to lose every game. This is Division 1 lacrosse not the Mathletes. Make no mistake Stanford's athletic program is in the business of winning, on and off the field. You don't seem to be apart of that attitude.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

Now we should probably get back to the subject of this website, Lacrosse. And Stanford has proven to be not so good at that.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.
sounds like another bitter parent who's kid didn't get recruited by Stanford and now brings the hate. Stony Brook was definitely better yesterday no question. But Stanford is 6-2 and beat Penn State by 6, Ohio State by a lot, and John's Hopkins. And lost to ND by 4 in a very good game. So not in top echelon but a very good team. And oh by the way a phenomenal school with incredible athletics pretty much across the board. Now go kick your dog or some other hateful act you d-bag.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

Now we should probably get back to the subject of this website, Lacrosse. And Stanford has proven to be not so good at that.

Come on and I'm a SB supporter. Stanford has had some great wins this season most recently beating Penn state handily and Hopkins. SB was just on fire yesterday from start to finish! Other than Maryland there isn't much of a difference between 2 and 12
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

Now we should probably get back to the subject of this website, Lacrosse. And Stanford has proven to be not so good at that.

Wow , my kid does not go to Stanford but it is easy to see that you have way more problems than a hatred of Stanford. Get a life . Have been a member of the entrance committee for two medical schools in the past and will tell you any degree from Stanford gets you to the top half of the list , add in being a member of the girls lax team and you go to the top. You obviously need to take all the required classes but the major means very little.You are picking on one of the schools that actually give less academic wiggle room to its athletes compared to 90 percent of the D1 schools out there.Clearly you have an axe to grind with something at Stanford and most of us probably have a good idea why.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

Now we should probably get back to the subject of this website, Lacrosse. And Stanford has proven to be not so good at that.

Come on and I'm a SB supporter. Stanford has had some great wins this season most recently beating Penn state handily and Hopkins. SB was just on fire yesterday from start to finish! Other than Maryland there isn't much of a difference between 2 and 12

Hopkins? really? Ok apparently you miss the context. Stan says his team is top 10 "where are all the haters now." When they get destroyed by #14 in the polls, he pulls the "my daughter's school is better than yours crap". Stan just needed to be called out is all. And a few facts on the academic side that I'm sure most people don't know are quite appropriate.
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Stanford over Penn State 16-10. Where are all the Stanford haters now? Will be well within Top 10 with only loss in a close game to ND.

Lets hear it Stan the Cardinal. A drubbing at the hands of 14th ranked Stony Brook. 17-7. Stanford plays no one, and the few good teams they play beat them handily. Sorry, they are pretenders at this point.

Nice win for SB, but they will choke when it counts! And can we even compare a SB degree with Sanford? That's what really matters!

How dare you talk about the education and god forbid the majors taken. Parents on this board only care if their kid plays academics be dam

Now we should probably get back to the subject of this website, Lacrosse. And Stanford has proven to be not so good at that.

Wow , my kid does not go to Stanford but it is easy to see that you have way more problems than a hatred of Stanford. Get a life . Have been a member of the entrance committee for two medical schools in the past and will tell you any degree from Stanford gets you to the top half of the list , add in being a member of the girls lax team and you go to the top. You obviously need to take all the required classes but the major means very little.You are picking on one of the schools that actually give less academic wiggle room to its athletes compared to 90 percent of the D1 schools out there.Clearly you have an axe to grind with something at Stanford and most of us probably have a good idea why.

Come on Doc, top half of list at a medical school gets you nowhere. And u are talking about a student who "obviously need to take all the required classes". That is not the vast majority of lax players. Clearly, if a lax player took all the necessary classes for med school, they are not who I am talking about. That is the vast minority on the Stanford lax team. I am in a business where a Stanford diploma is very valuable (in fact as you state, it is very valuable in most arenas.) But certainly you of all people must know that there are far more qualified students being denied entrance into the Stanfords of the world in favor of an athlete. Good lax player wants to go to Stanford, or Harvard or Princeton ... would you care to opine on the ACT/SATs necessary and the GPA? I can tell you ... would you be shocked to know that a 27 or 28 on the ACT can get you in? How about 1200 on SATs. GPA 3.5/3.6, come on in. Of course it has less wiggle room than most D1 schools. not the point. The point is that Stan boasted first of such lax prowess for the school. Then, when confronted with the drubbing SB put on them, resorted to the "my school is better than yours retort", for which he deserved to get slammed. So I just gave him something to chew on. Great school, awesome opportunity for any young woman looking to get ahead in the world. But has many flaws as well.
Every top 25 school probably has two thirds of their roster in "suggested majors" that's just the way it is when they own the kids 6 hours a day. Now some schools won't drop their requirements to get in (see Notre Dame Football)but most walk you in if you can play and meet the minimums. Just watch some march madness press conferences, not a lot of brain surgeon majors.

The kids that deserve the respect are the ones that pick their major, their school and then athletics. Those are the families that get it.
Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

Was at game with my daughter today for the first half and it was really bad. 14-3 at the half. Hofstra looked a ton slower than Ohio state. To hofstras credit the kids were fighting hard just not very talented
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.

I see more than 2 more wins. JMU is WAY down and isn't scaring anyone, Delaware is beatable and Elon and Drexel aren't that good either. Generally a down year for the CAA. It's definitely been a tough year for Hofstra but the next two years recruiting classes look strong, the young girls on the team are gaining valuable game experience and Coach Smith has another year of experience. I predict better years ahead. This year is "just one of those years". It happens.
Let's see if the "verbals" actually commit over the next 2 years. Lots of tension now, and no team comraderie. Get the ball to the graduate student does nothing but create a frustrating field.
All seven of the recruited 2016's have signed their NLI's. I've heard nothing about any of the 2017's decommitting.
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.

I see more than 2 more wins. JMU is WAY down and isn't scaring anyone, Delaware is beatable and Elon and Drexel aren't that good either. Generally a down year for the CAA. It's definitely been a tough year for Hofstra but the next two years recruiting classes look strong, the young girls on the team are gaining valuable game experience and Coach Smith has another year of experience. I predict better years ahead. This year is "just one of those years". It happens.

That's what was said about the last two classes! There's no reason to believe anything will be changing any time soon
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.

I see more than 2 more wins. JMU is WAY down and isn't scaring anyone, Delaware is beatable and Elon and Drexel aren't that good either. Generally a down year for the CAA. It's definitely been a tough year for Hofstra but the next two years recruiting classes look strong, the young girls on the team are gaining valuable game experience and Coach Smith has another year of experience. I predict better years ahead. This year is "just one of those years". It happens.

That's what was said about the last two classes! There's no reason to believe anything will be changing any time soon

Hey "That's what was said...". What club does your daughter play for, what high school, what college has she committed to, what college does she want to play for?
Hey has anyone noticed that the last two national freshman of the week are two of the so called "not great" "stat padding' "ball hogs" that people on this site complained about last year. Where are all the naysayers now.
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Hey has anyone noticed that the last two national freshman of the week are two of the so called "not great" "stat padding' "ball hogs" that people on this site complained about last year. Where are all the naysayers now.

You must be so proud of your daughter/daughter's high school team mate/YJ team mate. yay for you
sorry they did not play for YJ and if I was their parent I would be very proud
I think the problem that people had with them was scoring 10 goals in a 19-2 game
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sorry they did not play for YJ and if I was their parent I would be very proud

Why can't people just be positive once in a while, without the "I told you so's" or the sarcasm. You sound like such babies! Congrats to them. Long Island should be proud, the freshman class from LI has been outstanding! Including winning 3 out of 6 rookie of the weeks with many more very deserving from LI! Way to go girls!!
Sounds very YJ-ish to me.
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sorry they did not play for YJ and if I was their parent I would be very proud

Why can't people just be positive once in a while, without the "I told you so's" or the sarcasm. You sound like such babies! Congrats to them. Long Island should be proud, the freshman class from LI has been outstanding! Including winning 3 out of 6 rookie of the weeks with many more very deserving from LI! Way to go girls!!

Freshman from BC played for TG. She is a wonderful young lady and a phenomenal player. It's a shame she is out for the season with an injury.
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.

I see more than 2 more wins. JMU is WAY down and isn't scaring anyone, Delaware is beatable and Elon and Drexel aren't that good either. Generally a down year for the CAA. It's definitely been a tough year for Hofstra but the next two years recruiting classes look strong, the young girls on the team are gaining valuable game experience and Coach Smith has another year of experience. I predict better years ahead. This year is "just one of those years". It happens.

That's what was said about the last two classes! There's no reason to believe anything will be changing any time soon

Hey "That's what was said...". What club does your daughter play for, what high school, what college has she committed to, what college does she want to play for?

not hofstra
IWLCA Poll for Division I, March 28
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 8-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 10-1 374 2
3 North Carolina 8-2 358 3
4 Syracuse 8-3 344 5
5 Notre Dame 9-2 318 4
6 Louisville 11-1 292 6
7 Southern California 9-0 268 8
8 Northwestern 4-4 254 7
9 Penn State 7-2 209 10
10 Boston College 6-4 207 12
11 Stony Brook 6-3 199 14
12 Stanford 6-2 194 9
13 Princeton 5-2 186 11
14 Duke 8-4 145 15
15 Virginia 5-6 130 13
16 Penn 6-3 85 16
17 Towson 7-2 68 17
18 Ohio State 9-1 64 18
19 Johns Hopkins 8-4 48 19
20 Massachusetts 7-1 40 20
IWLCA Poll for Division II, March 28
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 6-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 6-0 375 2
3 Lindenwood 10-0 358 3
4 LIU Post 7-1 335 4
5 Rollins 8-0 328 5
6 Lock Haven 8-0 291 6
7 Mercyhurst 7-1 280 7
8 Grand Valley State 4-3 251 8
9 West Chester 7-1 236 9
10 New Haven 5-2 219 10
11 Florida Southern 7-3 196 11
12 Dowling 7-1 181 13
13 Limestone 6-2 172 12
14 Stonehill 3-2 125 15
15 Queens 6-2 120 14
16 Regis (CO) 7-1 109 16
17 Mount Olive 8-3 68 19
18 Bentley 2-5 53 17
19 Florida Tech 8-3 45 20
20 Indiana (PA) 5-3 14 NR
IWLCA Poll for Division III, March 28
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 7-0 400 20 1
2 Middlebury 6-0 379 3
3 College of NJ 7-1 343 4
4 Salisbury 9-1 342 5
5 Franklin & Marshall 7-1 320 2
6 Gettysburg 7-1 315 6
7 [lacrosse] 7-3 253 8
8 Colby 4-1 246 9
9 Amherst 5-1 235 11
10 Trinity (CT) 6-2 212 7
11 Tufts 4-3 199 14
12 Hamilton 6-2 181 10
13 Bates 7-1 176 13
14 Messiah 4-3 159 12
15 St. John Fisher 7-0 124 15
16 Brockport 6-0 93 16
17 Christopher Newport 8-1 65 19
18 Mary Washington 9-2 51 17
19 St. Mary's (MD) 10-1 40 20
20 Bowdoin 3-4 34 18

SEE YOU AT STONY BROOK
can anyone tell me how the Stony brook festival/games went other day?..sounded like a neat idea for local lax....was it well attended?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
sorry they did not play for YJ and if I was their parent I would be very proud

Why can't people just be positive once in a while, without the "I told you so's" or the sarcasm. You sound like such babies! Congrats to them. Long Island should be proud, the freshman class from LI has been outstanding! Including winning 3 out of 6 rookie of the weeks with many more very deserving from LI! Way to go girls!!

Freshman from BC played for TG. She is a wonderful young lady and a phenomenal player. It's a shame she is out for the season with an injury.

Syracuse freshman also played at TG
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world

Is it? I was thinking that it's certainly going to cause a lot more failed runs at goal and a lot more turnovers as a girl tries to force her way in. But I'm open to hearing all sides.
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world

Is it? I was thinking that it's certainly going to cause a lot more failed runs at goal and a lot more turnovers as a girl tries to force her way in. But I'm open to hearing all sides.

I do think padding is more of an issue at the HS level, but with the shot clock in college, if the clear is not quick, you might have more people running in to shoot quickly with less time to set something up with an assist.
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Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world

Is it? I was thinking that it's certainly going to cause a lot more failed runs at goal and a lot more turnovers as a girl tries to force her way in. But I'm open to hearing all sides.

I do think padding is more of an issue at the HS level, but with the shot clock in college, if the clear is not quick, you might have more people running in to shoot quickly with less time to set something up with an assist.

I get what you're saying but I see that more as encouraged ball hogging than stat padding since I don't see that many more goals being the result. In any event, you are right that the number of assists will likely fall.
I think the shot clock is going to expose the more innovative coaches, particularly as it relates to redefending. Quick aggressive midfielders who can ride hard will be valuable players. The more time it takes your opponent to get the ball into their offensive end the less time they will have to work for a shot. Aggressive double teaming on redefending, at the risk of the long ball pass being successful, will be one strategy we will see more of.
Not sure if individual stat padding will be worse, other than there won't be quite the stigma or the accusation of padding if the girls are essentially required to shoot. But yeah, scoring in lopsided games could get way out of whack.
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I think the shot clock is going to expose the more innovative coaches, particularly as it relates to redefending. Quick aggressive midfielders who can ride hard will be valuable players. The more time it takes your opponent to get the ball into their offensive end the less time they will have to work for a shot. Aggressive double teaming on redefending, at the risk of the long ball pass being successful, will be one strategy we will see more of.
Not sure if individual stat padding will be worse, other than there won't be quite the stigma or the accusation of padding if the girls are essentially required to shoot. But yeah, scoring in lopsided games could get way out of whack.

They better put the 3 second call as a major foul back in or coaches (i.e. Stonybrook ) will pack it in and make you try to squeeze the ball against the zone or dodge at inopportune times. There is no real penalty for not leaving the 8 meter. The rules is supposed to make the game safer. Wait to so how many dangerous shot or out of control dodges into the zone at the end of the shot clock. I think this will make the game uglier and actually benefit the teams who are less athletic!
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Another loss by HU today, but what I saw (watched online) is a young team with fight and spirit. Ohio State has 9 seniors and 8 juniors to HU's 3 seniors and 4 juniors. Once OSU got comfortably ahead and subbed a bit, the game evened up. HU's sophomores and freshmen actually outplayed the OSU sophomores and freshmen. I think that's a good sign for the future. The schedule gets a little easier for The Pride now. There's a few more wins in the remaining schedule. Winning as many as possible this year to prepare for next year.

They have a shot in the next 2 games against Columbia and William and Mary. After that. They won't win a game. Ohio st could have scored 25 to 30 goals today if they wanted to. Hofstra defense was non existent. They lost almost every draw. There was nothing good to take out of that game today.

I see more than 2 more wins. JMU is WAY down and isn't scaring anyone, Delaware is beatable and Elon and Drexel aren't that good either. Generally a down year for the CAA. It's definitely been a tough year for Hofstra but the next two years recruiting classes look strong, the young girls on the team are gaining valuable game experience and Coach Smith has another year of experience. I predict better years ahead. This year is "just one of those years". It happens.

That's what was said about the last two classes! There's no reason to believe anything will be changing any time soon

Hey "That's what was said...". What club does your daughter play for, what high school, what college has she committed to, what college does she want to play for?

not hofstra

Good! I'm sure they are happy to hear that. One less problem to worry about. They're trying to get their program back on track and the last thing they need right now is a "me first" player.
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world

Is it? I was thinking that it's certainly going to cause a lot more failed runs at goal and a lot more turnovers as a girl tries to force her way in. But I'm open to hearing all sides.

I believe the game may also become a field position strategy. If the defense, beginning with attack players through mid-fielders, pressure the ball to the point of no viable shot you may see teams just dump the ball into the offensive zone rather than give it up to the other team with better field position.

I have seen exhibition games with a shot clock. There were possessions where the defensive ride was so good the offense still had the ball at midfield with 15 seconds left on the clock. They simply dumped the ball into the offensive end rather than give up the ball at mid-field. Goalies also get rid of the ball faster with a shot clock.

Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stat padding is going to be worse in a shot clock world

Is it? I was thinking that it's certainly going to cause a lot more failed runs at goal and a lot more turnovers as a girl tries to force her way in. But I'm open to hearing all sides.

I believe the game may also become a field position strategy. If the defense, beginning with attack players through mid-fielders, pressure the ball to the point of no viable shot you may see teams just dump the ball into the offensive zone rather than give it up to the other team with better field position.

I have seen exhibition games with a shot clock. There were possessions where the defensive ride was so good the offense still had the ball at midfield with 15 seconds left on the clock. They simply dumped the ball into the offensive end rather than give up the ball at mid-field. Goalies also get rid of the ball faster with a shot clock.

We are going to live through some interesting times next year, without a doubt.
The good is no more stall. The bad will be tighter defense leading to even more whistles for fouls and the real bad will be less set attacks leading to coaches saying "get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way".
Stony Brook has 2 2nd Team Mid Season All Americans. Congratulations!!

A- Courtney Murphy, Stony Brook, Jr.

A- Kylie Ohlmiller, Stony Brook, So.
Originally Posted by America's Game
Stony Brook has 2 2nd Team Mid Season All Americans. Congratulations!!

A- Courtney Murphy, Stony Brook, Jr.

A- Kylie Ohlmiller, Stony Brook, So.

Now that the ladies are getting healthy, expect a big win tomorrow!
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Originally Posted by America's Game
Stony Brook has 2 2nd Team Mid Season All Americans. Congratulations!!

A- Courtney Murphy, Stony Brook, Jr.

A- Kylie Ohlmiller, Stony Brook, So.

Now that the ladies are getting healthy, expect a big win tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
Stony Brook has 2 2nd Team Mid Season All Americans. Congratulations!!

A- Courtney Murphy, Stony Brook, Jr.

A- Kylie Ohlmiller, Stony Brook, So.

Now that the ladies are getting healthy, expect a big win tomorrow!

Really? Better check that.
Nice, hard fought win for HU yesterday over a solid (not great) Columbia team. It's not a season-defining win but it is a win that shows progress. A young team growing up. The graduate player dominated scoring but lots of young players contributed too...especially the freshman goalie Fields.
SB is rolling....
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SB is rolling....

They are rolling and it doesn't look like thy have any really tough games left. Need a deep playoff run to be impressive though.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
SB is rolling....

They are rolling and it doesn't look like thy have any really tough games left. Need a deep playoff run to be impressive though.

It doesn't serve them well not to have any tough games left.
Originally Posted by baldbear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SB is rolling....

They are rolling and it doesn't look like thy have any really tough games left. Need a deep playoff run to be impressive though.

It doesn't serve them well not to have any tough games left.

I think they would admit for themselves that they have to win a couple of tournament games to claim any level of success. They set the bar high. Now they have to get there or listen to us saying they underachieved.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think the shot clock is going to expose the more innovative coaches, particularly as it relates to redefending. Quick aggressive midfielders who can ride hard will be valuable players. The more time it takes your opponent to get the ball into their offensive end the less time they will have to work for a shot. Aggressive double teaming on redefending, at the risk of the long ball pass being successful, will be one strategy we will see more of.
Not sure if individual stat padding will be worse, other than there won't be quite the stigma or the accusation of padding if the girls are essentially required to shoot. But yeah, scoring in lopsided games could get way out of whack.

They better put the 3 second call as a major foul back in or coaches (i.e. Stonybrook ) will pack it in and make you try to squeeze the ball against the zone or dodge at inopportune times. There is no real penalty for not leaving the 8 meter. The rules is supposed to make the game safer. Wait to so how many dangerous shot or out of control dodges into the zone at the end of the shot clock. I think this will make the game uglier and actually benefit the teams who are less athletic!

you're right on the mark in my opinion. the zone has girls packing it in already. its gotten harder and harder to get a clean shot off. thus the sidearm shots and the between the legs shots like trainor and sj tracy.

"uglier" is a good way to describe where wlax is heading. how about 6 players in the zone instead of 7? and a midfield restraining line instead of a cramped 30 yard zone. yah cant get girls out in space dodging and running the way it is now. its like Knicks Pistons circa 1993. just a wrestling match out there now. touch to watch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The good is no more stall. The bad will be tighter defense leading to even more whistles for fouls and the real bad will be less set attacks leading to coaches saying "get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way".

does Amanda O'Leary from Florida know you are directly quoting her??? those are the exact instructions she yelled out for 4 years to her ball hog YJ midfielder. and the mindset that cost her at least 1 NCAA title. sad...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The good is no more stall. The bad will be tighter defense leading to even more whistles for fouls and the real bad will be less set attacks leading to coaches saying "get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way".

does Amanda O'Leary from Florida know you are directly quoting her??? those are the exact instructions she yelled out for 4 years to her ball hog YJ midfielder. and the mindset that cost her at least 1 NCAA title. sad...

And the same mind set that got Amonte 3 of her championships yelling to get the ball to her ball hog YJ attacker.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The good is no more stall. The bad will be tighter defense leading to even more whistles for fouls and the real bad will be less set attacks leading to coaches saying "get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way".

does Amanda O'Leary from Florida know you are directly quoting her??? those are the exact instructions she yelled out for 4 years to her ball hog YJ midfielder. and the mindset that cost her at least 1 NCAA title. sad...

And the same mind set that got Amonte 3 of her championships yelling to get the ball to her ball hog YJ attacker.

Katrina Dowd played for Yellow Jackets? I thought she was from upsate somewhere???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The good is no more stall. The bad will be tighter defense leading to even more whistles for fouls and the real bad will be less set attacks leading to coaches saying "get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way".

does Amanda O'Leary from Florida know you are directly quoting her??? those are the exact instructions she yelled out for 4 years to her ball hog YJ midfielder. and the mindset that cost her at least 1 NCAA title. sad...

And the same mind set that got Amonte 3 of her championships yelling to get the ball to her ball hog YJ attacker.

ITS FREAKING UGLY NO MATTER WHAT TEAM DOES IT!
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 4
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 10-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 11-1 375 2
3 North Carolina 10-2 365 3
4 Syracuse 10-3 340 4
5 Notre Dame 10-3 311 5
6 Louisville 12-1 298 6
7 USC 11-0 272 7
8 Penn State 9-2 240 9
9 Stony Brook 7-3 210 11
10 Stanford 8-2 189 12
11 Boston College 6-5 179 10
11 Princeton 7-2 179 13
13 Virginia 6-6 166 15
13 Northwestern 4-6 166 8
15 Duke 8-5 143 14
16 Penn 7-3 134 16
17 Towson 8-2 82 17
18 Ohio State 10-1 75 18
19 Massachusetts 9-1 29 20
20 Johns Hopkins 8-5 27 19
IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 4
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 8-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 8-0 376 2
3 LIU Post 7-2 358 4
4 Rollins 10-1 315 5
5 Mercyhurst 10-1 300 7
6 Lindenwood 11-2 294 3
7 West Chester 10-1 260 9
8 Florida Southern 9-3 252 11
9 Grand Valley State 6-3 250 8
10 New Haven 7-2 222 10
11 Limestone 8-2 217 13
12 Lock Haven 9-1 211 6
13 Dowling 8-1 173 12
14 Queens 8-2 128 15
15 Regis (CO) 9-1 110 16
16 Stonehill 3-4 91 14
17 Mount Olive 8-3 67 17
18 Bentley 4-5 57 18
19 Indiana (PA) 7-4 53 20
20 East Stroudsburg 10-2 27 NR
IWLCA Poll for Division III, April 4
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 9-0 400 20 1
2 Middlebury 9-0 379 2
3 College of NJ 8-1 354 3
4 Salisbury 11-1 336 4
5 Franklin & Marshall 9-1 320 5
6 Gettysburg 8-1 310 6
7 Amherst 5-2 257 9
8 Colby 7-1 248 8
9 Bates 9-1 234 13
10 Trinity (CT) 7-2 227 10
11 Hamilton 6-3 174 12
12 Brockport 7-0 145 16
13 Mary Washington 11-2 131 18
14 St. Mary's (MD) 12-1 125 19
15 Christopher Newport 10-1 122 17
16 Tufts 5-4 121 11
17 [lacrosse] 7-5 112 7
18 St. John Fisher 9-1 96 15
19 Messiah 5-4 52 14
20 Dickinson 5-3 15 NR
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?

4-6 is shameful
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?

4-6 is shameful

not great. Shameful probably a bit strong given they have the #1 strength of schedule in the country. But the Penn loss is a bad one for them. Puts them at risk of missing the NCAA tournament. But likely 8-2 if they had Stony Brook's schedule. So is Stony Brook's 7-3 record shameful?

2 - 1 goal losses for Stony Brook

Florida and Northwestern
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?

4-6 is shameful

not great. Shameful probably a bit strong given they have the #1 strength of schedule in the country. But the Penn loss is a bad one for them. Puts them at risk of missing the NCAA tournament. But likely 8-2 if they had Stony Brook's schedule. So is Stony Brook's 7-3 record shameful?

Not talking about SB and you know it's dumb to suggest what any teams record would be. It's a losing record for NU and its embarrassing 4 and 6 OUCH.

You are what your record says you are. Right now they are on the wrong side of the average line. SHAMEFUL!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?

4-6 is shameful

not great. Shameful probably a bit strong given they have the #1 strength of schedule in the country. But the Penn loss is a bad one for them. Puts them at risk of missing the NCAA tournament. But likely 8-2 if they had Stony Brook's schedule. So is Stony Brook's 7-3 record shameful?

Not talking about SB and you know it's dumb to suggest what any teams record would be. It's a losing record for NU and its embarrassing 4 and 6 OUCH.

You are what your record says you are. Right now they are on the wrong side of the average line. SHAMEFUL!

Yes u r ... a below average team for the top 15, which is the schedule they play. Puts them in the 10-15 range right now, which is where they r. You likely have trouble w logic. Go ahead shout again. You have anger issues.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
when does NU make the run we've been told is coming?

Who has told you that? Point to that post please?

4-6 is shameful

not great. Shameful probably a bit strong given they have the #1 strength of schedule in the country. But the Penn loss is a bad one for them. Puts them at risk of missing the NCAA tournament. But likely 8-2 if they had Stony Brook's schedule. So is Stony Brook's 7-3 record shameful?

Not talking about SB and you know it's dumb to suggest what any teams record would be. It's a losing record for NU and its embarrassing 4 and 6 OUCH.

You are what your record says you are. Right now they are on the wrong side of the average line. SHAMEFUL!

Yes u r ... a below average team for the top 15, which is the schedule they play. Puts them in the 10-15 range right now, which is where they r. You likely have trouble w logic. Go ahead shout again. You have anger issues.

It doesn't make a difference, there's MD and then there's everyone else - realistically the top four teams right now are probably the final four in May, maybe 1-2 other teams have a shot at getting there, but nobody beats MD

It doesn't make a difference, there's MD and then there's everyone else - realistically the top four teams right now are probably the final four in May, maybe 1-2 other teams have a shot at getting there, but nobody beats MD [/quote]

Completely agree with that. MD is a wagon. The only team that I think has even a remote chance of hanging with them is UNC. And that's only if Waters plays out of her mind in goal.
I'm still taking the only 5 teams to win the nat champ from the last 25 years. Women's lax continues to be like women's basketball. Not enough good talent to go around. Maryland, NC, NW, Virginia, Princeton. This year it looks like Maryland again. A wildcard winner would be great for the sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm still taking the only 5 teams to win the nat champ from the last 25 years. Women's lax continues to be like women's basketball. Not enough good talent to go around. Maryland, NC, NW, Virginia, Princeton. This year it looks like Maryland again. A wildcard winner would be great for the sport.

Bad year to compare to women's basketball (even though UConn was never in doubt) - 3 of the Final 4 teams were first timers.
Besides Maryland good luck predicting other three teams to final 4
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm still taking the only 5 teams to win the nat champ from the last 25 years. Women's lax continues to be like women's basketball. Not enough good talent to go around. Maryland, NC, NW, Virginia, Princeton. This year it looks like Maryland again. A wildcard winner would be great for the sport.

Bad year to compare to women's basketball (even though UConn was never in doubt) - 3 of the Final 4 teams were first timers.
But who won? That's the problem others cant break through. UConn won by something like 30
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm still taking the only 5 teams to win the nat champ from the last 25 years. Women's lax continues to be like women's basketball. Not enough good talent to go around. Maryland, NC, NW, Virginia, Princeton. This year it looks like Maryland again. A wildcard winner would be great for the sport.

There is enough talent to go around. The problem is that it doesn't go around.......it all goes to Maryland!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous

SEE YOU AT STONY BROOK

NOT
Is SB for real?
I think that we can officially stop with the Hofstra winning CAA or somehow moving in the right direction, 20-8 loss to JMU today and 6 of the goals were scored by the grad student from UNC doesn't leave much to hang your hat on going forward
SB is all set. They got their leading goal scorer for another year. She had a huge game yesterday, she def should be put on the T list after that game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SB is all set. They got their leading goal scorer for another year. She had a huge game yesterday, she def should be put on the T list after that game.

Shouldn't there be more justification for putting her on the list if she could do that against one of the big names? Not sure how the list works. Is it just numbers or is it put into perspective with the how they produce in the big games?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think that we can officially stop with the Hofstra winning CAA or somehow moving in the right direction, 20-8 loss to JMU today and 6 of the goals were scored by the grad student from UNC doesn't leave much to hang your hat on going forward

Hofstra will not win another game this season. Who's going to score next season when the grad student leaves ?
NU 17 ND 12

Shelby Fredricks is a draw monster
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU 17 ND 12

Shelby Fredricks is a draw monster

Another horrible loss for halfpenny, she can't manage a game to save her life, with all the talent on the roster how much longer does she last?
Crazy year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU 17 ND 12

Shelby Fredricks is a draw monster

Still under .500?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU 17 ND 12

Shelby Fredricks is a draw monster

Still under .500?

Nope nice try ... 6-6

toughest schedule in the nation. starting quite a few sophomores and freshman. They aren't a great team, but a very good one. And a tough out for everyone except maybe the top couple teams in the country. What is your team?

SB
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!

Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman.

If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business.

The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
SB

Not buying this Stirring the pot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!

Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman.

If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business.

The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today.

Ok Coaches mommy. You have to be family or such a%# kissing would have made you vomit. 6-6 is average. And that is what the team is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!

Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman.

If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business.

The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today.

Ok Coaches mommy. You have to be family or such a%# kissing would have made you vomit. 6-6 is average. And that is what the team is.

Average compared to what? Is ND better than them? They have a 10-4 record? How about your beloved SB, they r 9-3? You don't seem to understand that your schedule matters and teams have vastly different sets of opponents. NU is better than an "average" team by a wide margin.

And it "coach's" numb nuts. And before u whine about lame pointing out typos etc., I'm not. I'm pointing out that you are dumb, which is obvious I guess. So get angry at me for pointing out the obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think that we can officially stop with the Hofstra winning CAA or somehow moving in the right direction, 20-8 loss to JMU today and 6 of the goals were scored by the grad student from UNC doesn't leave much to hang your hat on going forward

Hofstra will not win another game this season. Who's going to score next season when the grad student leaves ?

I feel bad for the girls in the team, they have no choice but to finish out the season but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't return. The chemistry isn't there, and nobody wants to play for a mean nasty blame everyone but yourself coach. That loss was humiliating to everyone but the graduate ballhog. With verbals speaking to other coaches I don't see Hofstra progressing until an experienced staff is hired. But don't worry SS, I hear Princeton is looking for a men's coach
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think that we can officially stop with the Hofstra winning CAA or somehow moving in the right direction, 20-8 loss to JMU today and 6 of the goals were scored by the grad student from UNC doesn't leave much to hang your hat on going forward

Hofstra will not win another game this season. Who's going to score next season when the grad student leaves ?

I feel bad for the girls in the team, they have no choice but to finish out the season but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't return. The chemistry isn't there, and nobody wants to play for a mean nasty blame everyone but yourself coach. That loss was humiliating to everyone but the graduate ballhog. With verbals speaking to other coaches I don't see Hofstra progressing until an experienced staff is hired. But don't worry SS, I hear Princeton is looking for a men's coach

Didn't they just extend her contract too. I guess playing reputation only goes so far. When you actually have to put in the work, she comes up short. Her club is sinking as is her college team. Couldn't happen to a nicer (extreme sarcasm) person.
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 11
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 12-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 12-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 11-2 364 3
4 Syracuse 11-3 340 4
5 Louisville 12-2 298 6
6 USC 13-0 295 7
7 Notre Dame 10-4 285 5
8 Stony Brook 9-3 241 9
9 Stanford 9-2 217 10
10 Penn State 9-3 190 8
11 Princeton 8-2 177 11
12 Northwestern 6-6 172 13
13 Duke 9-5 159 15
14 Virginia 7-6 157 13
15 Ohio State 11-1 138 18
15 Boston College 7-6 138 11
17 Penn 8-3 110 16
18 Towson 9-2 68 17
19 Massachusetts 11-1 39 19
20 Johns Hopkins 8-6 19 20
IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 11
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 10-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 10-0 380 2
3 LIU Post 9-2 359 3
4 Rollins 12-1 326 4
5 Mercyhurst 12-1 310 5
6 Lindenwood 11-2 293 6
7 West Chester 12-1 278 7
8 Florida Southern 11-3 265 8
9 Grand Valley State 7-3 245 9
10 New Haven 8-3 215 10
11 Limestone 10-2 214 11
12 Dowling 10-1 167 13
13 Lock Haven 10-2 154 12
14 Queens 11-2 139 14
15 Regis (CO) 10-1 127 15
16 Indiana (PA) 8-5 75 19
17 Mount Olive 10-4 67 17
18 Bentley 6-5 66 18
19 East Stroudsburg 11-3 45 20
20 Stonehill 5-5 25 16

IWLCA Poll for Division III, April 11
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 10-0 400 20 1
2 Middlebury 10-0 380 2
3 College of NJ 11-1 351 3
4 Salisbury 13-1 334 4
5 Franklin & Marshall 11-1 320 5
6 Gettysburg 10-1 314 6
7 Amherst 7-2 270 7
8 Bates 10-2 240 9
9 Colby 8-2 239 8
10 Trinity (CT) 9-2 231 10
11 Hamilton 7-3 193 11
12 Brockport 9-0 186 12
13 St. Mary's (MD) 13-2 148 14
14 Mary Washington 11-3 125 13
15 Christopher Newport11-2 123 15
16 [lacrosse] 9-5 86 17
17 Tufts 6-5 73 16
17 St. John Fisher 11-1 73 18
19 Messiah 6-4 37 19
20 Union 7-2 13 NR
If #1 Adelphi played #20 Hopkins what's the final score?
Hopkins 18-4
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hopkins 18-4

Maybe more.

#8 Florida Southern (D2) lost to #11 Hamilton (D3) 9-8. Not a fair comparison but interesting nonetheless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hopkins 18-4

Easy. Not even a game.

The Florida Southern result is a fine data point. Florida Southern lost to Adelphi 16-10. Also lost to D3 #11 Hamilton 10-9. Adelphi is closer to a top D3 team than to a top 20 D1 team.

There is nothing wrong with that, but I don't understand some parents' need to be so unrealistic about their daughter's/daughter's team's ability. They are playing D2 for a reason. And it's fine. Leave it at that.
I have no dog in this fight, but that is one A-hole of a comment. I guess your kid is a leading scorer on a top 20 team. Go to an Adelphi game and tell the parents that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have no dog in this fight, but that is one A-hole of a comment. I guess your kid is a leading scorer on a top 20 team. Go to an Adelphi game and tell the parents that.

tell them what? The stupid question of Adelphi playing Hopkins as if that was something interesting to ponder is at issue here. I have no dog in this fight either A-hole of a responder. Not only are the Hopkins girls a better team of lax players by far, they are also at a FAR better school. How do you like that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hopkins 18-4

Easy. Not even a game.

The Florida Southern result is a fine data point. Florida Southern lost to Adelphi 16-10. Also lost to D3 #11 Hamilton 10-9. Adelphi is closer to a top D3 team than to a top 20 D1 team.

There is nothing wrong with that, but I don't understand some parents' need to be so unrealistic about their daughter's/daughter's team's ability. They are playing D2 for a reason. And it's fine. Leave it at that.

Adelphi would beat Hofstra right now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hopkins 18-4

Easy. Not even a game.

The Florida Southern result is a fine data point. Florida Southern lost to Adelphi 16-10. Also lost to D3 #11 Hamilton 10-9. Adelphi is closer to a top D3 team than to a top 20 D1 team.

There is nothing wrong with that, but I don't understand some parents' need to be so unrealistic about their daughter's/daughter's team's ability. They are playing D2 for a reason. And it's fine. Leave it at that.

Adelphi would beat Hofstra right now

They might. But now you are talking about the 74 ranked team in D1 and a team that lost to Hopkins 17-3. Hopkins could have named the score in that one. A monumental difference. And while you were just taking a shot at Hofstra, you also made the point about Adelphi as well. They are not too dissimilar to Hofstra, not a flattering comparison at the moment.
Not sure you can say that about D2!!
Can not answer for this season BUT I would say for the past seven years or so Post and Adelphi would be very competitive D1 teams. Not saying top 10 but they have been good teams and have been involved in all D1 fall ball events. (have done good)
I have watched D1 games and I will not say the teams but the only D1 thing about them is their school!
I do think you have to get over the D1 , D2 , D3 thing, all have very good players yes more in the Top D1 teams but these girls are all over the place.
Watched Adelphi play Hofstra in fall ball two years ago at Manhasset and beat them BAD!
I think they also beat two other D1 teams that day and I have not seen them there the last two years.
Here's a better question:

Who would win Adelphi or Middlebury?
who's stronger Batman or Superman ? Didn't see the movie
The talent on the bottom 50 D1 programs is really lacking and top D2 and even D3 schools would do just fine against them. Parents love saying my kid plays D1 and top D2 and D3 parents love saying their kid could compete in D1. Both sides have a bit of a complex
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!

Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman.

If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business.

The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today.

Ok Coaches mommy. You have to be family or such a%# kissing would have made you vomit. 6-6 is average. And that is what the team is.

Average compared to what? Is ND better than them? They have a 10-4 record? How about your beloved SB, they r 9-3? You don't seem to understand that your schedule matters and teams have vastly different sets of opponents. NU is better than an "average" team by a wide margin.

And it "coach's" numb nuts. And before u whine about lame pointing out typos etc., I'm not. I'm pointing out that you are dumb, which is obvious I guess. So get angry at me for pointing out the obvious.

Obviously average at 6 - 6 Coach's Mommy. Keep the chapstick handy!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1.
She is very good on the draws!

Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman.

If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business.

The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today.

Ok Coaches mommy. You have to be family or such a%# kissing would have made you vomit. 6-6 is average. And that is what the team is.

Average compared to what? Is ND better than them? They have a 10-4 record? How about your beloved SB, they r 9-3? You don't seem to understand that your schedule matters and teams have vastly different sets of opponents. NU is better than an "average" team by a wide margin.

And it "coach's" numb nuts. And before u whine about lame pointing out typos etc., I'm not. I'm pointing out that you are dumb, which is obvious I guess. So get angry at me for pointing out the obvious.

Obviously average at 6 - 6 Coach's Mommy. Keep the chapstick handy!

You really are an idiot. You obviously have a kid who was second fiddle to some kid who goes to NU and it just kills you. Give it a rest ,everyone knows they are a solid program and are a threat to beat anyone .
Nope, just don't like a@$kissers who can't admit what they really are. Originally Posted by Anonymous The talent on the bottom 50 D1 programs is really lacking and top D2 and even D3 schools would do just fine against them. Parents love saying my kid plays D1 and top D2 and D3 parents love saying their kid could compete in D1. Both sides have a bit of a complex So now we are talking bottom 50 D1 so teams 57-107. Ok. now that is a COMPLETELY different argument to the original question posed here, which was how would Adelphi do against Hopkins. The answer again is, they would get destroyed. Enough already. It has nothing to do with parents wanting to say "my kid plays D1". Hopkins is WAY better than Adelphi at lacrosse and academics. OK??? Can we move on now. The answer was simple. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous The talent on the bottom 50 D1 programs is really lacking and top D2 and even D3 schools would do just fine against them. Parents love saying my kid plays D1 and top D2 and D3 parents love saying their kid could compete in D1. Both sides have a bit of a complex So now we are talking bottom 50 D1 so teams 57-107. Ok. now that is a COMPLETELY different argument to the original question posed here, which was how would Adelphi do against Hopkins. The answer again is, they would get destroyed. Enough already. It has nothing to do with parents wanting to say "my kid plays D1". Hopkins is WAY better than Adelphi at lacrosse and academics. OK??? Can we move on now. The answer was simple. OK angry man, what would you like to ponder? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous The talent on the bottom 50 D1 programs is really lacking and top D2 and even D3 schools would do just fine against them. Parents love saying my kid plays D1 and top D2 and D3 parents love saying their kid could compete in D1. Both sides have a bit of a complex So now we are talking bottom 50 D1 so teams 57-107. Ok. now that is a COMPLETELY different argument to the original question posed here, which was how would Adelphi do against Hopkins. The answer again is, they would get destroyed. Enough already. It has nothing to do with parents wanting to say "my kid plays D1". Hopkins is WAY better than Adelphi at lacrosse and academics. OK??? Can we move on now. The answer was simple. OK angry man, what would you like to ponder? Not angry. Laughing at the silliness. What I would like to ponder is how in 10 years, LI will be a pimple on the landscape of women's college lacrosse, and how you will be unable to deal with that. That would be the last thing i would be worrying about in 10yrs Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous The talent on the bottom 50 D1 programs is really lacking and top D2 and even D3 schools would do just fine against them. Parents love saying my kid plays D1 and top D2 and D3 parents love saying their kid could compete in D1. Both sides have a bit of a complex So now we are talking bottom 50 D1 so teams 57-107. Ok. now that is a COMPLETELY different argument to the original question posed here, which was how would Adelphi do against Hopkins. The answer again is, they would get destroyed. Enough already. It has nothing to do with parents wanting to say "my kid plays D1". Hopkins is WAY better than Adelphi at lacrosse and academics. OK??? Can we move on now. The answer was simple. OK angry man, what would you like to ponder? Not angry. Laughing at the silliness. What I would like to ponder is how in 10 years, LI will be a pimple on the landscape of women's college lacrosse, and how you will be unable to deal with that. hmm 10 years?? that's about how long posers like yourself (lemme guess, your daughter plays in the Jersey or Pennsylvania bush leagues?) have been making that same prediction about LI lacrosse. Dream on poser Wow a couple of simple thoughts to try and spur some discussion went sour pretty quick. It all started with saying the bottom 50 teams in D1 are weak and that there is some decent lacrosse being played in D2 and D3. Thought maybe some people outside the D1 top 10 would chime. I for one think the top D3 programs can compete with a lot of bottom D1's. After Maryland and handful of others the talent is pretty even Originally Posted by Anonymous Wow a couple of simple thoughts to try and spur some discussion went sour pretty quick. It all started with saying the bottom 50 teams in D1 are weak and that there is some decent lacrosse being played in D2 and D3. Thought maybe some people outside the D1 top 10 would chime. I for one think the top D3 programs can compete with a lot of bottom D1's. After Maryland and handful of others the talent is pretty even It's more than "a handful of others". But yes, beyond team 60 in the D1 rankings it gets less clear. The way you are stating it implies that a top D3 program would compete well with teams that would simply be way out of their league on a lax field. Draw the line where you want, but it isn't at Maryland and a handful of others. If you say Maryland and 59 others, now you may be getting somewhere near a valid point. How is Stonybrook ranked so high? They played 4 top teams and lost to 3 of them. What am I missing? All the other games they are supposed to win. Anyone have a clue? Makes no sense. Originally Posted by Anonymous How is Stonybrook ranked so high? They played 4 top teams and lost to 3 of them. What am I missing? All the other games they are supposed to win. Anyone have a clue? Makes no sense. Just looked think the, beating Stanford by 10 probably is a reason , in addition other teams that were above them lost while they have been winning impressively! That one is easy but if you look at the RPI Ratings released on NCAA website it has Towson at 4 with NO top 20 wins ! Also some other teams such as Duke have a few good wins but have also lost to teams NOT ranked at all Originally Posted by Anonymous How is Stonybrook ranked so high? They played 4 top teams and lost to 3 of them. What am I missing? All the other games they are supposed to win. Anyone have a clue? Makes no sense. Probably a couple 1 goal losses to top teams one to the #2 team and a huge win over a very good Stanford team. Other than Maryland think this years tournament can be fun Seems everyone is beating everyone go a few weeks without a loss and climb the charts not saying it's righ or wrong just giving my opinion Originally Posted by Anonymous How is Stonybrook ranked so high? They played 4 top teams and lost to 3 of them. What am I missing? All the other games they are supposed to win. Anyone have a clue? Makes no sense. Probably because none of those losses were a blow out? 2 of the 3 games were 1 goal games. Losses to be sure but not exactly definitive. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous NU was 14-2 against Stony Brook on the draws and won by 1. She is very good on the draws! Yes she is becoming one of the best in the nation. NU offense is playing at a higher level the last 2.5 games. They have a great coaching staff and it shows. They are getting better. They still turn the ball over too much and their defense, while decent, is not elite. Their goalie is outstanding tho and just a freshman. If they reach the NCAA quarter finals or deeper, I would say this is another statement that Amonte-Hiller and staff are one of, if not the, best in the business. The prospects of them making the tournament just went up quite a bit w the win today. Ok Coaches mommy. You have to be family or such a%# kissing would have made you vomit. 6-6 is average. And that is what the team is. Average compared to what? Is ND better than them? They have a 10-4 record? How about your beloved SB, they r 9-3? You don't seem to understand that your schedule matters and teams have vastly different sets of opponents. NU is better than an "average" team by a wide margin. And it "coach's" numb nuts. And before u whine about lame pointing out typos etc., I'm not. I'm pointing out that you are dumb, which is obvious I guess. So get angry at me for pointing out the obvious. Obviously average at 6 - 6 Coach's Mommy. Keep the chapstick handy! Hello NU apologist, lets hear todays excuses... I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. People of all the threads, Let's keep this one as our kids are grown up. Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. Ugh, another embaressing day for Hofstra. Blew a 7-0 lead, Maybe they'll beat Stony Brrok? Originally Posted by Anonymous Ugh, another embaressing day for Hofstra. Blew a 7-0 lead, Maybe they'll beat Stony Brrok? And maybe Adam Sandler will win Best Actor. 8 shots 8 goals the goalie was off that game. Plenty of lacrosse left to play. Originally Posted by Anonymous 8 shots 8 goals the goalie was off that game. Plenty of lacrosse left to play. cant blame 8 shots and 8 goals on just a goalie having an off day. Last time I checked there are a few more players on the field Originally Posted by Anonymous 8 shots 8 goals the goalie was off that game. Plenty of lacrosse left to play. not really, they're playing out the season and I'm sure they all can't wait for it to end She's canned after the last game. This experiment didn't work. Just because your a great player doesn't make you a coach. Adelphi coach going after that job hard. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous 8 shots 8 goals the goalie was off that game. Plenty of lacrosse left to play. not really, they're playing out the season and I'm sure they all can't wait for it to end After watching her post game recap video she just looks and sound defeated. Why would Hofstra allow that post game video out. Puts coach in tough spot IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 18 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Maryland 14-0 400 20 1 2 Florida 14-1 373 2 3 North Carolina 12-2 364 3 4 Syracuse 12-4 339 4 5 Southern California 14-0 321 6 6 Notre Dame 11-4 281 7 7 Stony Brook 11-3 261 8 8 Louisville 12-3 249 5 9 Stanford 12-2 232 9 10 Princeton 9-3 204 11 11 Virginia 8-6 179 14 12 Northwestern 7-7 171 12 13 Duke 9-6 162 13 14 Penn State 10-4 153 10 15 Ohio State 11-2 135 15 16 Boston College 9-6 106 15 17 Penn 9-3 93 17 18 Towson 11-2 72 18 19 Massachusetts 13-1 53 19 20 Cornell 10-2 IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 18 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Adelphi 12-0 400 20 1 2 Le Moyne 12-0 380 2 3 Rollins 13-1 353 4 4 Lindenwood 13-2 316 6 5 LIU Post 10-3 306 3 6 Florida Southern 12-3 300 8 7 West Chester 14-1 293 7 8 Mercyhurst 13-2 267 5 9 New Haven 9-4 241 10 10 Lock Haven 13-2 197 13 11 Grand Valley State 8-4 193 9 12 Dowling 11-2 184 12 13 Limestone 11-3 154 11 14 Indiana (PA) 11-5 147 16 15 Queens 13-2 129 14 16 Regis (CO) 11-2 96 15 17 Bentley 8-5 75 18 18 Stonehill 6-6 56 20 19 East Stroudsburg 12-3 49 19 20 Mount Olive 11-5 IWLCA Poll for Division III, April 18 Rank Team Record Points First Previous 1 Cortland 12-0 400 20 1 2 College of New Jersey 13-1 376 3 3 Salisbury 14-2 346 4 4 Franklin & Marshall 13-1 338 5 5 Gettysburg 12-1 330 6 6 Middlebury 11-1 301 2 7 Trinity (CT) 11-2 275 10 8 Amherst 9-2 260 7 9 Bates 10-2 235 8 10 Colby 10-2 223 9 11 Brockport 11-0 198 12 12 Hamilton 9-4 173 11 13 St. Mary's (MD) 15-2 166 13 14 [lacrosse] 11-5 135 16 14 Mary Washington 13-3 135 14 16 Christopher Newport 11-4 74 15 17 Messiah 8-5 49 19 18 Tufts 6-6 48 17 19 Union 9-2 47 20 20 St. John Fisher 13-2 Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. Originally Posted by Anonymous Why would Hofstra allow that post game video out. Puts coach in tough spot Its called acting professional, does the NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA only hold post game interviews with the winning team? Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. Some university's send the players a coaches evaluation sheet that goes straight to th AD and bypasses the coach. That way the kids can voice any concerns without the coach knowing who it came from. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. Some university's send the players a coaches evaluation sheet that goes straight to th AD and bypasses the coach. That way the kids can voice any concerns without the coach knowing who it came from. If you are uncomfortable with the AD route, try going to school administration outside the athletic department. Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. Call the cops.... Or hire a shrink. NU 7-7 'Nuff said The last four in and last four out will be very interesting will be very close and I think could come down to SOS Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? Just a college lacrosse fan that's all Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. "BULLYING BEYOND THE NORMAL REALM" I am sorry, but a coach should not bully anyone. Push them to succeed on and off the field, have them reach a level they did not think was possible; yes. Have her start with the coach, or an assistant. Then go to the AD or School president if it is that serious. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. "BULLYING BEYOND THE NORMAL REALM" I am sorry, but a coach should not bully anyone. Push them to succeed on and off the field, have them reach a level they did not think was possible; yes. Have her start with the coach, or an assistant. Then go to the AD or School president if it is that serious. 6 hours a day Plus they own you 24/7/365 Then they make you feel like crap emotionally and physically Lacrosse 2016, where do I sign up? Get academic money and tell these coaches to F off Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. I'm just a parent too. I don't have a "program" either. Your quote "Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title" ... so since you put it in those terms, what's your program?? I observe that you are just a jealous hater. The likely guess is that you are a parent of a sub par athlete and student who would have no shot of being at a school like NU. Why else would you hate so much?? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. I'm just a parent too. I don't have a "program" either. Your quote "Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title" ... so since you put it in those terms, what's your program?? I observe that you are just a jealous hater. The likely guess is that you are a parent of a sub par athlete and student who would have no shot of being at a school like NU. Why else would you hate so much?? 7 and 7. Title hopes gone, Chitown is the second city and NU is just average. Just live with that fact. The guy who comes on here bashing NU is a very small, flaccid individual. Its almost a guarantee that his kid was always overlooked in his eyes for someone who now plays at NU . Get over it your kid was just never very good and NU had no interest. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. I'm just a parent too. I don't have a "program" either. Your quote "Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title" ... so since you put it in those terms, what's your program?? I observe that you are just a jealous hater. The likely guess is that you are a parent of a sub par athlete and student who would have no shot of being at a school like NU. Why else would you hate so much?? 7 and 7. Title hopes gone, Chitown is the second city and NU is just average. Just live with that fact. Feel bad for your daughter who can't live up to your expectations, despite the fact that you never made anything of yourself. Poor girl. NU is Just Average, I'm told you will get used to it. I prefer excellence. Interesting HBO Real Sports this month- Only 24 D1 colleges make money on athletics. 300 lose money. Rutgers loses$300 million per year. Schools are now fighting back against academic and program cuts saying athletics needs to be self funding (think the cut of Hofstra football). They are also saying that although athletics raises the stature of some schools, that many players earn worthless degrees with weak majors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this.

How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her.

I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NU is Just Average, I'm told you will get used to it. I prefer excellence.

I'm sure you do. It's why you are so unhappy. Think about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The guy who comes on here bashing NU is a very small, flaccid individual. Its almost a guarantee that his kid was always overlooked in his eyes for someone who now plays at NU . Get over it your kid was just never very good and NU had no interest.

NU = NG
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The guy who comes on here bashing NU is a very small, flaccid individual. Its almost a guarantee that his kid was always overlooked in his eyes for someone who now plays at NU . Get over it your kid was just never very good and NU had no interest.

I would almost bet he was the 'angry" registered guy that suddenly went quiet when he was called out. For whatever reason he had a thing for this school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting HBO Real Sports this month-

Only 24 D1 colleges make money on athletics. 300 lose money. Rutgers loses $300 million per year. Schools are now fighting back against academic and program cuts saying athletics needs to be self funding (think the cut of Hofstra football). They are also saying that although athletics raises the stature of some schools, that many players earn worthless degrees with weak majors. and all this is s surprise to you!? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information. Call Obama Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. I'm just a parent too. I don't have a "program" either. Your quote "Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title" ... so since you put it in those terms, what's your program?? I observe that you are just a jealous hater. The likely guess is that you are a parent of a sub par athlete and student who would have no shot of being at a school like NU. Why else would you hate so much?? 7 and 7. Title hopes gone, Chitown is the second city and NU is just average. Just live with that fact. Once that new indoor stadium is built she will be able to recruit the best players - its a horrible place to play and practice. NU has lost the recruiting battle to MD, UF, ND, Cuse, UNC, etc because the environment is much better and NU is not the power house they once were - which came first chicken or egg? I think I read it was the egg. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. A safe place to go? Because the world is so very safe. I got news for you Dad - your 18 year old princess can get drafted to fight in a war now. Not exactly a safe place to go. If you 18 year old can't handle being "bullied" then you've failed as a parent. Wait until she comes to work for a real boss. Are you going to call them too? Because they'll enjoy firing her with you still on the phone to hear her tears. Good job Dad. NU.....going they way of Immaculata women's basketball. Better use your purple Pom poms while you still can. Typical JS keeping the NCAA's leading goal scorer in the game to pad her stats when it's 15-0. He does it with his club teams too. zero class Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. A safe place to go? Because the world is so very safe. I got news for you Dad - your 18 year old princess can get drafted to fight in a war now. Not exactly a safe place to go. If you 18 year old can't handle being "bullied" then you've failed as a parent. Wait until she comes to work for a real boss. Are you going to call them too? Because they'll enjoy firing her with you still on the phone to hear her tears. Good job Dad. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. A safe place to go? Because the world is so very safe. I got news for you Dad - your 18 year old princess can get drafted to fight in a war now. Not exactly a safe place to go. If you 18 year old can't handle being "bullied" then you've failed as a parent. Wait until she comes to work for a real boss. Are you going to call them too? Because they'll enjoy firing her with you still on the phone to hear her tears. Good job Dad. I'm a mom you idiot, don't get it twisted. And while you sit on your fat [lacrosse] allowing a coach to say disgusting things to your daughter and pound your chest because you think you're a success that she can't come to you there are those of us would not have to make any calls to anyone. An old school meeting with the coach behind a closed door would end being called the hints no young lady should ever be called. You can't talk with a broken jaw, not even you father of the year. Small detail, there is no draft! The armed services are all volunteer you dope. Originally Posted by Anonymous Small detail, there is no draft! The armed services are all volunteer you dope. LMAO, the guy letting his daughter be abused is possibly the most disgusting parent comment I have seen on this site. Its your daughter you dope if she cannot count on support from her own father I really feel bad for the kid, and yes an 18 year old is still just a kid. Its sad for her and I hope her mother is not some uncaring moron also. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Small detail, there is no draft! The armed services are all volunteer you dope. LMAO, the guy letting his daughter be abused is possibly the most disgusting parent comment I have seen on this site. Its your daughter you dope if she cannot count on support from her own father I really feel bad for the kid, and yes an 18 year old is still just a kid. Its sad for her and I hope her mother is not some uncaring moron also. Probably formerly registered now unregistered angry anti-NU guy. At the beginning of the season I posted that I thought USC was ready to take the next step into the top 10. I stated that the jedi had learned well from the master and that west coast lacrosse was going to get a big boost from another strong, contending program along side Stanford. I was roundly ridiculed on here. I would like you all to acknowledge now that my prediction has come true. Munday et al have established themselves as a top notch program in just 4 short years, following the pattern of NU 15 years ago. They have outstanding recruiting classes coming in future years as well, including the best MF on LI this year. Kudos to the coaches and players for doing what most east coasters thought was impossible (again!). --- funny coincidence that the code verification to submit this post starts w NU2B ... maybe so!! Once that new indoor stadium is built she will be able to recruit the best players - its a horrible place to play and practice. NU has lost the recruiting battle to MD, UF, ND, Cuse, UNC, etc because the environment is much better and NU is not the power house they once were - which came first chicken or egg?[/quote] Certainly will help. So does the fact that it's the best school on your list. Pretty general statement. Best for one might not be best for another. Do we really care this much about NU on this site? Originally Posted by Anonymous Typical JS keeping the NCAA's leading goal scorer in the game to pad her stats when it's 15-0. He does it with his club teams too. zero class Yeah heard bout that. D was at the game she said it was ridiculous. This is typical for JS. Only one team on LI who I have utmost respect for, who could poss have 30-0 games, and guess what? Coach doesn't allow it, has never happened. Originally Posted by Anonymous Pretty general statement. Best for one might not be best for another. Do we really care this much about NU on this site? OK fine lets play that game. Harvard is not a good fit for my daughter. She is better off at Adelphi etc. Blah blah blah ... Best mix of Academics and high level lax in no particular order ... Stanford, NU, ND, Duke, Princeton, Penn, Virginia, Hopkins ... bunch right behind UNC, USC, BC, Cornell, Harvard ... That second group is very strong on one side (UNC for lax Harvard for Academics) and still good on the other. Amongst those schools, there is a great fit any good student. Now if your daughter is not a good student, that's a different conversation. There how's that? More specific? Original statement still stands. The best school in that original list is NU. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Pretty general statement. Best for one might not be best for another. Do we really care this much about NU on this site? OK fine lets play that game. Harvard is not a good fit for my daughter. She is better off at Adelphi etc. Blah blah blah ... Best mix of Academics and high level lax in no particular order ... Stanford, NU, ND, Duke, Princeton, Penn, Virginia, Hopkins ... bunch right behind UNC, USC, BC, Cornell, Harvard ... That second group is very strong on one side (UNC for lax Harvard for Academics) and still good on the other. Amongst those schools, there is a great fit any good student. Now if your daughter is not a good student, that's a different conversation. There how's that? More specific? Original statement still stands. The best school in that original list is NU. Just stop it, NU is NG. No matter how hard you try. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Pretty general statement. Best for one might not be best for another. Do we really care this much about NU on this site? OK fine lets play that game. Harvard is not a good fit for my daughter. She is better off at Adelphi etc. Blah blah blah ... Best mix of Academics and high level lax in no particular order ... Stanford, NU, ND, Duke, Princeton, Penn, Virginia, Hopkins ... bunch right behind UNC, USC, BC, Cornell, Harvard ... That second group is very strong on one side (UNC for lax Harvard for Academics) and still good on the other. Amongst those schools, there is a great fit any good student. Now if your daughter is not a good student, that's a different conversation. There how's that? More specific? Original statement still stands. The best school in that original list is NU. Just stop it, NU is NG. No matter how hard you try. Hello again angry guy w daughter who didn't measure up to your hopes and dreams ... I wish her well ... and great distance from you so that she may recover her self esteem and do wonderful things with her life. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Pretty general statement. Best for one might not be best for another. Do we really care this much about NU on this site? OK fine lets play that game. Harvard is not a good fit for my daughter. She is better off at Adelphi etc. Blah blah blah ... Best mix of Academics and high level lax in no particular order ... Stanford, NU, ND, Duke, Princeton, Penn, Virginia, Hopkins ... bunch right behind UNC, USC, BC, Cornell, Harvard ... That second group is very strong on one side (UNC for lax Harvard for Academics) and still good on the other. Amongst those schools, there is a great fit any good student. Now if your daughter is not a good student, that's a different conversation. There how's that? More specific? Original statement still stands. The best school in that original list is NU. Just stop it, NU is NG. No matter how hard you try. Hello again angry guy w daughter who didn't measure up to your hopes and dreams ... I wish her well ... and great distance from you so that she may recover her self esteem and do wonderful things with her life. Unfortunately for her he is probably the same dad who lets his kid be abused. Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Originally Posted by Anonymous Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Wow! Many kids regret going to many places when they don't get playing time etc. Now we are going to say KAH is not a great coach. OK. You have zero credibility. I personally know dozens of players from those NU teams. They to a woman say KAH was tough, but also one of the most influential people in their entire lives. That the lessons they learned from her have stayed with them and they use them all the time. They look back on their years at NU as some of the greatest times of their lives. Most still show up to each others weddings etc. So go on, keep being negative if you want. KAH is one of the greatest coaches not only in women's lacrosse, but in Big Ten history across any sport. Don't believe me? Watch the video ... https://vimeo.com/41340927 I know women who have played at most top programs over the last 15 years. Many of them differ greatly on their coaches and their experiences. I would have my daughters play for KAH in a second if they could. Originally Posted by Anonymous Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Name them. They are not kids any more. The board rules are fine with you putting their names here. Go for it. You think all the midwestern lax nuts are talking this much about LI lax? Most of us on here dont care about NU. Set up a NU thread, so we can have some peace. Thanks Originally Posted by Anonymous At the beginning of the season I posted that I thought USC was ready to take the next step into the top 10. I stated that the jedi had learned well from the master and that west coast lacrosse was going to get a big boost from another strong, contending program along side Stanford. I was roundly ridiculed on here. I would like you all to acknowledge now that my prediction has come true. Munday et al have established themselves as a top notch program in just 4 short years, following the pattern of NU 15 years ago. They have outstanding recruiting classes coming in future years as well, including the best MF on LI this year. Kudos to the coaches and players for doing what most east coasters thought was impossible (again!). --- funny coincidence that the code verification to submit this post starts w NU2B ... maybe so!! Not exactly a grueling schedule, lets see if they are still in the top 10 when the dust settles Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Name them. They are not kids any more. The board rules are fine with you putting their names here. Go for it. I wouldn't call it regret. Its more like the bloom came off the rose by the time they graduated. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Name them. They are not kids any more. The board rules are fine with you putting their names here. Go for it. I wouldn't call it regret. Its more like the bloom came off the rose by the time they graduated. That happens at almost every program. Players go in believing they will get playing time. I mean why not, they were HS studettes, and courted during recruiting. When they don't see the field as often as they expected, and then some freshman is starting over them after they've done everything asked their disenchantment sets in. Usually bolstered by mom and dad. Then they begin to resent all they missed as a student-athlete. Seen it happen a bunch. The friendships are solid, but the lax experience was less than they had hoped. I have always wondered why there aren't more great HS players who decide to go to great schools with good but not great lax teams, and then try and elevate a program. Go have an impact. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Picking the right school includes the coach. Many kids who have gone to NU regret doing so. Even some who won National Championships. That is a fact. Wow! Many kids regret going to many places when they don't get playing time etc. Now we are going to say KAH is not a great coach. OK. You have zero credibility. I personally know dozens of players from those NU teams. They to a woman say KAH was tough, but also one of the most influential people in their entire lives. That the lessons they learned from her have stayed with them and they use them all the time. They look back on their years at NU as some of the greatest times of their lives. Most still show up to each others weddings etc. So go on, keep being negative if you want. KAH is one of the greatest coaches not only in women's lacrosse, but in Big Ten history across any sport. Don't believe me? Watch the video ... https://vimeo.com/41340927 I know women who have played at most top programs over the last 15 years. Many of them differ greatly on their coaches and their experiences. I would have my daughters play for KAH in a second if they could. Time has passed her and her program by. No more national titles unfortunately, very good coach, but it's time for her to go. She rides the girls almost 7 hours on some days coupled with it being zero degrees for most of the school year. Should be a great education but very few of the girls take majors that mean anything. No different than most of the top 10 lacrosse schools. Lacrosse is a job, its not fun. You are there to play lacrosse and that's it Originally Posted by Anonymous She rides the girls almost 7 hours on some days coupled with it being zero degrees for most of the school year. Should be a great education but very few of the girls take majors that mean anything. No different than most of the top 10 lacrosse schools. Lacrosse is a job, its not fun. You are there to play lacrosse and that's it That is just uninformed ... you can go look at the majors. Many young woman are taking very meaningful majors. And at a school like NU, that is truly impressive. Originally Posted by Anonymous Typical JS keeping the NCAA's leading goal scorer in the game to pad her stats when it's 15-0. He does it with his club teams too. zero class Checked the box score - she scored 5 out of 8 of her goals in the second half after leading 8-0 at the break. Last one with 3 minutes left and the score 15-0. Guess he's hoping the T award people will only look at numbers, not situations. Why people choose schools is their own choice and should be based on academics, athletics but equally fit. Walk around campus without coaches and get a feel for it ! Agreed. As far as programs go, I believe parity to some degree has hit wlax. But I believe it is in sections, put Maryland to the side would it shock anyone if any teams in top 12 beat any of the others ?! Few schools limit majors for athletes, in fact they find ways to make it work Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Typical JS keeping the NCAA's leading goal scorer in the game to pad her stats when it's 15-0. He does it with his club teams too. zero class Checked the box score - she scored 5 out of 8 of her goals in the second half after leading 8-0 at the break. Last one with 3 minutes left and the score 15-0. Guess he's hoping the T award people will only look at numbers, not situations. LOL and the newsday top 100 is put together the same way. T watch is no different. Girls beating up and stat padding against weak teams. #passtheball So many things go into picking the correct college fit for kids . It is different for every family Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous I don't think excuses are needed when a team loses to a top 5 team. A team that by the way is 14-0 and slapped SB around just a few weeks back. Why the comparison to SB, are they the model? Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title, now your favorite team is struggling to not fall into the terrible list from the average list. What's y"your program"? My program? I don't have a program, I'm just a parent. And what "my program" is doesn't matter when I observe that NU is at the end of the road. Just like Chicago (Evanston too). The glory days have passed your program by. I'm just a parent too. I don't have a "program" either. Your quote "Why not just admit that your program used to be in the conversation for the national title" ... so since you put it in those terms, what's your program?? I observe that you are just a jealous hater. The likely guess is that you are a parent of a sub par athlete and student who would have no shot of being at a school like NU. Why else would you hate so much?? don't know what his agenda is but there are plenty of reasons to hate NU. ugly lacrosse, ugly crime ridden city, ugly weather, plenty of other things too. and yes the loses will go way beyond this season. get used to it... Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Here is a question I am throwing out there to everyone if a NCAA Coach is verbally abusing players and bullying them beyond the normal realm of things who do we contact outside of our university to report this. How about you don't call anyone. You teach your daughter to deal with the situation for herself. Let her figure it out and overcome whatever life throws at her. I hope you're not a parent. If an 18 year old is being bullied she needs a safe place to go, and sadly many ADs do nothing. I would suggest looking up the ncaa anti bully contact information. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. A safe place to go? Because the world is so very safe. I got news for you Dad - your 18 year old princess can get drafted to fight in a war now. Not exactly a safe place to go. If you 18 year old can't handle being "bullied" then you've failed as a parent. Wait until she comes to work for a real boss. Are you going to call them too? Because they'll enjoy firing her with you still on the phone to hear her tears. Good job Dad. you are literally as intelligent as the "Cruiser" in the movie Stripes.. and he was a fictional character. no one could ever have been like him. until now!!! Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous She rides the girls almost 7 hours on some days coupled with it being zero degrees for most of the school year. Should be a great education but very few of the girls take majors that mean anything. No different than most of the top 10 lacrosse schools. Lacrosse is a job, its not fun. You are there to play lacrosse and that's it That is just uninformed ... you can go look at the majors. Many young woman are taking very meaningful majors. And at a school like NU, that is truly impressive. Oh Yes, so Truly impressive! Make me puke! NU is just not good enough. Originally Posted by Anonymous Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight. 10 more points for Murph Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight. 10 more points for Murph In what was a lopsided PAL game! The fact that SB tried to get a goal for every senior, including defenders was an indication of how overmatched Hofstra was, SB played with them the entire second half - embarrassing to watch if you're a Hofstra fan Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight. 10 more points for Murph In what was a lopsided PAL game! The fact that SB tried to get a goal for every senior, including defenders was an indication of how overmatched Hofstra was, SB played with them the entire second half - embarrassing to watch if you're a Hofstra fan Do spallina and smith have the same time coaching each team? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight. 10 more points for Murph In what was a lopsided PAL game! The fact that SB tried to get a goal for every senior, including defenders was an indication of how overmatched Hofstra was, SB played with them the entire second half - embarrassing to watch if you're a Hofstra fan Do spallina and smith have the same time coaching each team? You really think that's the big difference? Both there same amount of time. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous She rides the girls almost 7 hours on some days coupled with it being zero degrees for most of the school year. Should be a great education but very few of the girls take majors that mean anything. No different than most of the top 10 lacrosse schools. Lacrosse is a job, its not fun. You are there to play lacrosse and that's it That is just uninformed ... you can go look at the majors. Many young woman are taking very meaningful majors. And at a school like NU, that is truly impressive. Oh Yes, so Truly impressive! Make me puke! NU is just not good enough. Yawn. Great school. Move on moron. Now to something interesting... USC continues to roll. Fight on! Originally Posted by Anonymous Both there same amount of time. Same time so both recruited the current teams, obviously extremely different coaching styles. Quick question- if a verbal does not have the required ncaa requirements by senior year is he/she still accepted into school and just put on academic probation? Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Both there same amount of time. Same time so both recruited the current teams, obviously extremely different coaching styles. Quick question- if a verbal does not have the required ncaa requirements by senior year is he/she still accepted into school and just put on academic probation? Spallina started at SB in 2012. Smith at Hofstra in 2013. You need to take the price of the school into account when it comes to recruiting. Hofstra is almost double the price of Stony Brook. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Both there same amount of time. Same time so both recruited the current teams, obviously extremely different coaching styles. Quick question- if a verbal does not have the required ncaa requirements by senior year is he/she still accepted into school and just put on academic probation? Spallina started at SB in 2012. Smith at Hofstra in 2013. You need to take the price of the school into account when it comes to recruiting. Hofstra is almost double the price of Stony Brook. Pure athletics with no academic money- .2 at Hofstra off their$53k price tag is $11,600 for a net of$41,400

.2 at Stony Brook off their 22k price tag is $4,400 for a net of$17,600

As Bernie would say that's a Huuuuuge difference.
Spallina was also a head coach for 4 years at Adelphi before he went to SB. That's a big experience edge.
heres a question I am throwing out to everyone what is considered verbalabusse these days in the NCAA when it comes to womens lacrosse coaches. Also, can you say that a coach is physically abuseing girls when she is not feeding them on road trips. What would you consider mental abuse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
heres a question I am throwing out to everyone what is considered verbalabusse these days in the NCAA when it comes to womens lacrosse coaches. Also, can you say that a coach is physically abuseing girls when she is not feeding them on road trips. What would you consider mental abuse.

Please name the university so we can steer clear during the recruiting process.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
heres a question I am throwing out to everyone what is considered verbalabusse these days in the NCAA when it comes to womens lacrosse coaches. Also, can you say that a coach is physically abuseing girls when she is not feeding them on road trips. What would you consider mental abuse.

Please name the university so we can steer clear during the recruiting process.

well judging by the NU girls we can scratch them off the list of suspects.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Both there same amount of time.

Same time so both recruited the current teams, obviously extremely different coaching styles. Quick question- if a verbal does not have the required ncaa requirements by senior year is he/she still accepted into school and just put on academic probation?

Spallina started at SB in 2012. Smith at Hofstra in 2013. You need to take the price of the school into account when it comes to recruiting. Hofstra is almost double the price of Stony Brook.

Pure athletics with no academic money-

.2 at Hofstra off their $53k price tag is$11,600 for a net of $41,400 .2 at Stony Brook off their 22k price tag is$4,400 for a net of \$17,600

As Bernie would say that's a Huuuuuge difference.

Also remember that the scholarship dollar amount is based on out-of-state figures
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stony Brook going to put a beat down on Hofstra tonight.
10 more points for Murph

Looks like she has a shot at NCAA single season goal record if SBU can advance far enough.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She rides the girls almost 7 hours on some days coupled with it being zero degrees for most of the school year. Should be a great education but very few of the girls take majors that mean anything. No different than most of the top 10 lacrosse schools. Lacrosse is a job, its not fun. You are there to play lacrosse and that's it

That is just uninformed ... you can go look at the majors. Many young woman are taking very meaningful majors. And at a school like NU, that is truly impressive.

Oh Yes, so Truly impressive!
Make me puke!
NU is just not good enough.

Yawn. Great school. Move on moron. Now to something interesting... USC continues to roll. Fight on!

Maybe they can beat up NU again!
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18
IWLCA Poll for Division II, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Adelphi 14-0 400 20 1
2 Le Moyne 13-1 379 2
3 Florida Southern 14-3 345 6
4 Lindenwood 13-2 333 4
5 LIU Post 12-3 318 5
6 Rollins 13-2 305 3
7 West Chester 16-1 289 7
8 Mercyhurst 15-2 258 8
9 New Haven 11-4 235 9
10 Dowling 13-2 210 12
11 Grand Valley St 10-4 191 11
12 Indiana (PA) 12-5 162 14
13 Limestone 13-3 156 13
14 Lock Haven 13-4 151 10
15 Queens 14-2 135 15
16 Regis (CO) 13-2 102 16
17 Bentley 10-5 94 17
18 East Stroudsburg 12-5 56 19
19 Mount Olive 12-5 35 20
20 Stonehill 7-7 15 18
IWLCA Poll for Division III, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Cortland 15-0 400 20 1
2 College of NJ 14-1 374 2
3 Salisbury 15-2 348 3
4 F & M 15-1 342 4
5 Gettysburg 13-1 327 5
6 Middlebury 13-1 306 6
7 Trinity (CT) 12-2 283 7
8 Amherst 11-2 256 8
9 Brockport 12-1 200 11
10 Colby 11-3 198 10
10 Bates 11-3 198 9
12 Hamilton 10-5 181 12
13 St. Mary's (MD) 16-2 178 13
14 [lacrosse] 12-6 151 14
15 Mary Washington 14-4 116 14
16 Tufts 8-6 106 18
17 Messiah 10-5 72 17
18 Christopher Newport 11-5 54 16
19 St. John Fisher 14-2 38 20
20 Union 9-4 14 19
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.

What is wrong with you? Isn't your daughters team 4-11 and just got beat by SHU this weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.

What is wrong with you? Isn't your daughters team 4-11 and just got beat by SHU this weekend?

Tournament bound, it's going to be an awesome family trip!
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.
Can you two idiots go down to the schoolyard and slap each other silly, all the while screaming "my kids better than yours".

And by the way, sounds like your kid is a notch above average.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

Good for you! Signed the guy who is killing NU. And it's so easy because they stink.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can you two idiots go down to the schoolyard and slap each other silly, all the while screaming "my kids better than yours".

And by the way, sounds like your kid is a notch above average.

Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

There are more than one poster responding on both sides of this. I will give you your due in regards to their record, sure. But they have played the #1 hardest schedule in the nation. They have played the #s 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,10,11,13,14 teams in the poll. I think if you rationally look at a handful of teams ahead of them in the polls, 3 of whom they have beaten (and yes all 8 of their losses have come to teams ranked currently 14 or above) NUs record would be substantially the same as theirs given their schedules. For instance, would a 13-3 NU team be ranked 7th like SB, since that likely would be their record as well? Or how about 9th ranked 13-3 Stanford? I think if you look at their schedule, it is reasonable to conclude that NU might even be 14-2 with the same schedule. I just think it is a little unfair to hammer a team too hard for taking on literally everybody. At least they schedule them and play it out. This year, they aren't top of the heap, but they are a good team that is probably a little better than a 15th ranking IMHO.
And for the record, I have not made any mention of your daughter. I wish you and her well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.

What is wrong with you? Isn't your daughters team 4-11 and just got beat by SHU this weekend?

Tournament bound, it's going to be an awesome family trip!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by baldbear
IWLCA Poll for Division I, April 25
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Maryland 16-0 400 20 1
2 Florida 16-1 376 2
3 North Carolina 13-2 361 3
4 Syracuse 14-4 333 4
5 USC 17-0 330 5
6 Notre Dame 12-5 289 6
7 Stony Brook 13-3 273 7
8 Louisville 12-4 250 8
9 Stanford 13-3 241 9
10 Virginia 9-7 191 11
11 Penn State 11-4 180 14
12 Princeton 10-4 177 10
13 Duke 9-7 161 13
14 Penn 11-3 154 17
15 Northwestern 7-8 128 12
16 Massachusetts 15-1 73 19
16 Boston College 10-7 73 16
18 Cornell 11-3 64 20
19 Ohio State 11-4 63 15
20 Towson 12-3 37 18

7 - 8 ? How is that possible, they are so good.

What is wrong with you? Isn't your daughters team 4-11 and just got beat by SHU this weekend?

Tournament bound, it's going to be an awesome family trip!

Only if you're a Maryland fan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

Good for you! Signed the guy who is killing NU. And it's so easy because they stink.

Why the animosity towards Northwestern? They are mediocre this year but so are a lot of other teams. They had a great run and now it's over. It's a lot more than most schools can say. They will get into the tournament. Lose in the first or second round and life will go on. No need to be filled with all that anger
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

He was right, and he was attacked for it. And in my not so humble opinion this NU team is only ranked out of nostalgia and they are ranked way too high. There is absolutely no reason they should be ranked at all or even be in the tournament conversation. This is the end of the road. NU = NG.
And another year where one of the five teams that has one the championship for the last 25 years will win again - NC or Maryland.

The sport just cant seem to cycle in new winners. Here's hoping for a major upset, the sport needs it
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And another year where one of the five teams that has one the championship for the last 25 years will win again - NC or Maryland.

The sport just cant seem to cycle in new winners. Here's hoping for a major upset, the sport needs it

You will need a physical team w a great goalie to get the upset ... my candidate, and yes it's a way longshot ... USC. Would be an unbelievable story and grow the game on the west coast in a big way. One can hope ...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.
No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.
No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure

There is a history of teams with tough schedules making the tournament. UVA comes to mind. For the last couple of years the Cavaliers have teetered around .500 and were always rewarded a tournament berth based on their strength of schedule. Two years ago they made a run to the final four after worrying if they would even make the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.
No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure

There is a history of teams with tough schedules making the tournament. UVA comes to mind. For the last couple of years the Cavaliers have teetered around .500 and were always rewarded a tournament berth based on their strength of schedule. Two years ago they made a run to the final four after worrying if they would even make the tournament.
A few posts back someone commented that the same teams will make this tournament and either UNC or MD will win like every year. Until other schools are allowed into tournament, and sos Is diminished no top players will gravitate to non traditional powers and every year will be the same. The structure needs to change
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=MKVELE]I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.
No I will not admit I'm wrong because I am not. You prove that N.U. Is getting by on reputation when you say if they played that teams schedule they would be better. There is no way of knowing if they would have beaten any team they didn't play. If any team from any conference has a better record they should be given the chance to go to tournament over any team with even a 9-7 record because they used to be good. They played there games and lost. Other t arms played there games and won. Why isn't it that simple. In years past N.U. also played very hard schedules and won. Why is it when they lose they should be rewarded? That's kind of like taking a goal off the board for a shooting space violation, rewarding bad play and punishing good play, woman's lacrosse..... Go figure [/quot

You really are an idiot. According to you strength of schedule should not matter so a loss to Maryland is the same as losing to LIU Brooklyn.Not sure if its the same moron or two separate morons who keep bashing NU but give it a rest .I generally root against NU from back in their glory days but that team is still a top 15 team and will tell you plenty of other top teams would be happy if they do not make the tournament.
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.
Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.

If that happened you would have power house teams scheduling inferior teams just to have a better record. The bottom line is the best teams should make it! You already have teams from weak conferences making it , who have virtually no chance to win a game! The at large teams need to be the best teams!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.

If that happened you would have power house teams scheduling inferior teams just to have a better record. The bottom line is the best teams should make it! You already have teams from weak conferences making it , who have virtually no chance to win a game! The at large teams need to be the best teams!
like SB did, Four top twenty games with three losses and a bunch of blowouts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.

If that happened you would have power house teams scheduling inferior teams just to have a better record. The bottom line is the best teams should make it! You already have teams from weak conferences making it , who have virtually no chance to win a game! The at large teams need to be the best teams!

Or the flip side of teams scheduling ridiculous out of conference schedule just to up their SOS, when they still don't have a shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now there are 27 teams with double digit wins this year. All those girls worked extremely hard and deserve a shot for a tournament bid over a .500 club no matter who the .500 team lost to. If that happens maybe the race to commit to a program rather than a major of study will end. Try to remember student comes first in the student athlete.

If that happened you would have power house teams scheduling inferior teams just to have a better record. The bottom line is the best teams should make it! You already have teams from weak conferences making it , who have virtually no chance to win a game! The at large teams need to be the best teams!
like SB did, Four top twenty games with three losses and a bunch of blowouts

it looks like 5 top 20 opponents and two wins. Two one goal losses and a loss to USC. Many of the Big conference teams do not want to or need to schedule smaller conference schools. Seems like many of the larger conference schools schedule easier games for The exact opposite reasons. Such as ND playing Liberty etc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by MKVELE
I hate to tell you that I'm not the person spewing the venom against N.U. But you have to admit I was right. Since you want to attack my daughter let's talk about her, not her team. She is top half for her position, top 20% for all freshman,and top 1/3 for all players on impact ratings, all this as you stated on a losing team while still studying for one of the forbidden majors. How's your kid doing because I'm pretty happy with my daughters progress so far.

You are a certified nut job and nobody attacked your daughter. Not sure what your beef is with NU but it's really getting ridiculous. Glad to hear your daughter is doing well.
I don't know what your problem is with me, I don't really have one with N.U. Other than I think there not doing well and are getting by on reputation alone. Like I said you should admit that I was right. There last game will be a day g fight in Ohio, if they lose no tourney for them.

If, and it is an "if", they destroy Ohio State at OSU, the #18 team in the country, will you post on here that maybe you were wrong? How r they "getting by on rep alone"? You have been shown the schedule. They have played 11 of the top 14 teams ranked ahead of them. They r 3-8 against them. Not to their standards no question, but if anything ought to rank them higher than 15, not lower. And have beaten all 4 teams behind them in the rankings/out of rankings. They are actually getting penalized for the schedule they chose to play. If they beat OSU, they r into the tournament likely. And should be. I'm sure though the people that agree with you most, honestly, are the players and coaches at NU. My guess is they are nowhere near satisfied with their record.

New to the discussion, but two things - Ohio St hasn't played much of a schedule at all and NU should easily beat them. All the teams that are ranked ahead of NU weren't always until NU lost to them
out of curiosity and assuming the conference leaders win there tournaments who should be the 13 at large teams ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
out of curiosity and assuming the conference leaders win there tournaments who should be the 13 at large teams ?

Not NU! Bet you knew that was coming !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
You are a bitter little person. If Northwestern has proven anything this year it is that with this current roster, they do not have what it takes to win. It does not matter if they lost by 1 or 100, they have already played the top teams and lost. No one said that Winthrop should go in over ' use, because Syracuse, unlike Northwestern win. Why shouldn't Winthrop get the chance to go to tournament, they have won 17, and if they win even 1 game in tournament maybe they will start getting the better players, or is that what you're afraid of, schools that are not worthy in your mind getting better than your beloved Northwestern. Since your so hung up on college names and apparently Winthrop is good enough for you, how abou Navy, Ohio State and Loyola all have10 or more wins are they good enough? You snob
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively
I believe the only way that was that will happen is to find a better way to disperse the top talent. By sending the same 10 teams into tournament every year you get a log jam of talent to those schools. There are girls sitting on the bench for up to 2 to 3 years that could make the mid to lower range teams much better, if they thought that a team like Winthrop could get a chance to go to tournament don't you think? But with the pressure to win tomorrow, and mommy and daddy wanting bragging rights about their kid playing for the best team, kids are running to these schools to sit on the bench, when they could be going to a different school and playing right away. If you think about it it's a total waste of talent. Good players only being used for practice that maybe get to see 100 minuets a year instead of playing 900 minuets. All so that we as parents can brag about The name on top of a degree, that quite frankly, after you get your first job, means much less.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
out of curiosity and assuming the conference leaders win there tournaments who should be the 13 at large teams ?

Not NU! Bet you knew that was coming !

Unbiased and educated opinion may say otherwise, the first 8 or 9 may be obvious but the next 4 or 5 not so much.

IN

ND,USC,SYRACUSE,DUKE,UVA,LOUISVILLE,AlBANY,UPENN,,and PENN ST

MAYBE

BC
CORNELL
HOPKINS
OHIO ST
NU

Now pick 4 based on SOS, top 20 wins, and head to head. Hard not to pick NU if they win the next 2
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively

Aren't you on your mighty high horse today? That is so obnoxious to say. There are plenty of girls on 70-110 who could have been on higher teams but chose a school for a specific reason. And for your information, being classified as D1 is based on the school's characteristics, such as funding, facilities, resources etc, it is not based on being able to compete with the top 20. My daughter is on one of those 70-110 teams, is having the time of her life, started as a freshman and is going to conference playoffs. Will they ever win NCAA's....not a chance. Who cares? It's all fleeting anyway. She is playing the sport she loves, in a school she loves, being paid to do so and getting an excellent education that will take her to a top medical school. And by the way, she was recruited to three schools in the top 50.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively
I believe the only way that was that will happen is to find a better way to disperse the top talent. By sending the same 10 teams into tournament every year you get a log jam of talent to those schools. There are girls sitting on the bench for up to 2 to 3 years that could make the mid to lower range teams much better, if they thought that a team like Winthrop could get a chance to go to tournament don't you think? But with the pressure to win tomorrow, and mommy and daddy wanting bragging rights about their kid playing for the best team, kids are running to these schools to sit on the bench, when they could be going to a different school and playing right away. If you think about it it's a total waste of talent. Good players only being used for practice that maybe get to see 100 minuets a year instead of playing 900 minuets. All so that we as parents can brag about The name on top of a degree, that quite frankly, after you get your first job, means much less.

Wow, talk about having a weird sense of priorities. You would like kids who have the opportunity to attend prestigious private schools like Duke, Northwestern, ND, the Ivies,etc., all elite academic institutions,..... or schools such as Maryland, Penn State, UNC, UVa, top state schools, who take no back seat when it comes to academics or alumni networks. to pass on those to attend Winthrop, or High Point, or Rutgers, or name any other D-I school with an above average lacrosse program.
And the reason is they might get more playing time?
I have news for you, the name on the degree does matter. It will help you get that first job, and that first job will be a better one because of that degree. And the alumni network will always be larger and more influential at those schools.

I'll tell you a story. I know a family who's oldest daughter went to an elite academic school, with an struggling lax program. She started all four years, loved her teammates and the school. Loved that she made an impact and the program returned to top 20.
Her sister was better, could have gone almost anywhere. She went to Maryland. Barely saw the field for two years. I asked her dad how was she handling the lack of PT? He said she is loving the team, loving the competition, loves being on the best team in the Nation and wouldn't change a thing. I asked her sister why she didn't follow in her footsteps and take what she had started up a notch? She said that her sister always wanted to play with the great teams at Maryland, and have an opportunity to win a National title. She was comfortable competing for time, and knew that the coaches would play the best players. If that was her great, if she was a sub she was fine with that also.

Yeah, would it be nice if great players didn't all go to the best schools with the best programs, sure. But there are plenty of reasons beyond playing time that should determine their choices. And the one that should not be a factor is that their Mom and Dad will struggle with the notion their little superstar is on the sideline, when they're used to seeing her on the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
You are a bitter little person. If Northwestern has proven anything this year it is that with this current roster, they do not have what it takes to win. It does not matter if they lost by 1 or 100, they have already played the top teams and lost. No one said that Winthrop should go in over ' use, because Syracuse, unlike Northwestern win. Why shouldn't Winthrop get the chance to go to tournament, they have won 17, and if they win even 1 game in tournament maybe they will start getting the better players, or is that what you're afraid of, schools that are not worthy in your mind getting better than your beloved Northwestern. Since your so hung up on college names and apparently Winthrop is good enough for you, how abou Navy, Ohio State and Loyola all have10 or more wins are they good enough? You snob

This is why people think you are a moron. You say it should be based on win loss records as to who gets into NCAA tournament but only stay consistent with that message when talking about NU. Winthrop has a better record than Cuse, UNC yet you will not put them into the tournament ahead of them. Basing it strictly on record is just so juvenile its not worth debating especially with you. Your daughter obviously knows of your obsession with the kid you have been so jealous of at NU , give it a rest its not healthy for her to see your behavior she may think that's what normal adults do.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively

Aren't you on your mighty high horse today? That is so obnoxious to say. There are plenty of girls on 70-110 who could have been on higher teams but chose a school for a specific reason. And for your information, being classified as D1 is based on the school's characteristics, such as funding, facilities, resources etc, it is not based on being able to compete with the top 20. My daughter is on one of those 70-110 teams, is having the time of her life, started as a freshman and is going to conference playoffs. Will they ever win NCAA's....not a chance. Who cares? It's all fleeting anyway. She is playing the sport she loves, in a school she loves, being paid to do so and getting an excellent education that will take her to a top medical school. And by the way, she was recruited to three schools in the top 50.

All that is great but to start broadening the appeal of the game, different winners each year would be helpful. This years upset winner could be?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively

Aren't you on your mighty high horse today? That is so obnoxious to say. There are plenty of girls on 70-110 who could have been on higher teams but chose a school for a specific reason. And for your information, being classified as D1 is based on the school's characteristics, such as funding, facilities, resources etc, it is not based on being able to compete with the top 20. My daughter is on one of those 70-110 teams, is having the time of her life, started as a freshman and is going to conference playoffs. Will they ever win NCAA's....not a chance. Who cares? It's all fleeting anyway. She is playing the sport she loves, in a school she loves, being paid to do so and getting an excellent education that will take her to a top medical school. And by the way, she was recruited to three schools in the top 50.

All that is great but to start broadening the appeal of the game, different winners each year would be helpful. This years upset winner could be?

Anyone in the tournament who isn't seeded #1, that's why they call it an upset.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively

Wrong. There is more talent than ever in every level of women's lacrosse. Which means the top teams, which attract players who have the guts to compete for playing time against the best, have top talent depth from top to bottom.
The teams outside the top 20-25 have a few really good players, maybe even one great one.....they just don't have 30 of them.
The talent is there, it is just concentrated.

Let's be honest, if you don't have a "Brand Name" school you better have a coaching staff that can recruit. That's more important than the X's and O's.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively

Wrong. There is more talent than ever in every level of women's lacrosse. Which means the top teams, which attract players who have the guts to compete for playing time against the best, have top talent depth from top to bottom.
The teams outside the top 20-25 have a few really good players, maybe even one great one.....they just don't have 30 of them.
The talent is there, it is just concentrated.

Let's be honest, if you don't have a "Brand Name" school you better have a coaching staff that can recruit. That's more important than the X's and O's.

For 20 years I have been hearing watch out for schools 20-50 they are ready to make the jump. Hasn't happened. We need a 20 seed to win one, that would help with every teams recruiting!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
You are a bitter little person. If Northwestern has proven anything this year it is that with this current roster, they do not have what it takes to win. It does not matter if they lost by 1 or 100, they have already played the top teams and lost. No one said that Winthrop should go in over ' use, because Syracuse, unlike Northwestern win. Why shouldn't Winthrop get the chance to go to tournament, they have won 17, and if they win even 1 game in tournament maybe they will start getting the better players, or is that what you're afraid of, schools that are not worthy in your mind getting better than your beloved Northwestern. Since your so hung up on college names and apparently Winthrop is good enough for you, how abou Navy, Ohio State and Loyola all have10 or more wins are they good enough? You snob

This is why people think you are a moron. You say it should be based on win loss records as to who gets into NCAA tournament but only stay consistent with that message when talking about NU. Winthrop has a better record than Cuse, UNC yet you will not put them into the tournament ahead of them. Basing it strictly on record is just so juvenile its not worth debating especially with you. Your daughter obviously knows of your obsession with the kid you have been so jealous of at NU , give it a rest its not healthy for her to see your behavior she may think that's what normal adults do.
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I have no bad or jealous feelings toward any woman on N.U. I never said wins and losses should be the sole criteria for tournament selection. Definitely conference champions should get in. I just don't think a .500 team should be allowed in simply because of s.o.s. alone. I'm truly sorry you're so upset about your daughters team not playing well this year, it must be so disappointing to think someone you love did not meet up to the expectations you believed. If they are truly as good as you think, they can prove it next year. But for the good of the sport, and not thinking selfishly any single girl, the N.C.A.A. must start to get other teams into the tournament. Let's face of t no one is beating Maryland in the foreseeable future, so do we do nothing and allow only 1 team to dominate, is that good for the sport. As a side note it is you that seems so angry. Nobody has singled out a single player other than you in this discussion. No one cares about your daughter, good for her she's at N.U. Just be happy with that. Your seem to have to prove how much better she is to everyone and no cares. Stop trying to make people feel inferior it makes you seem petty
NU should be out of the conversation. Period.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
You are a bitter little person. If Northwestern has proven anything this year it is that with this current roster, they do not have what it takes to win. It does not matter if they lost by 1 or 100, they have already played the top teams and lost. No one said that Winthrop should go in over ' use, because Syracuse, unlike Northwestern win. Why shouldn't Winthrop get the chance to go to tournament, they have won 17, and if they win even 1 game in tournament maybe they will start getting the better players, or is that what you're afraid of, schools that are not worthy in your mind getting better than your beloved Northwestern. Since your so hung up on college names and apparently Winthrop is good enough for you, how abou Navy, Ohio State and Loyola all have10 or more wins are they good enough? You snob

he called you a snob you can't sit there and take that sitting down... fight! fight! fight!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively
I believe the only way that was that will happen is to find a better way to disperse the top talent. By sending the same 10 teams into tournament every year you get a log jam of talent to those schools. There are girls sitting on the bench for up to 2 to 3 years that could make the mid to lower range teams much better, if they thought that a team like Winthrop could get a chance to go to tournament don't you think? But with the pressure to win tomorrow, and mommy and daddy wanting bragging rights about their kid playing for the best team, kids are running to these schools to sit on the bench, when they could be going to a different school and playing right away. If you think about it it's a total waste of talent. Good players only being used for practice that maybe get to see 100 minuets a year instead of playing 900 minuets. All so that we as parents can brag about The name on top of a degree, that quite frankly, after you get your first job, means much less.

Wow, talk about having a weird sense of priorities. You would like kids who have the opportunity to attend prestigious private schools like Duke, Northwestern, ND, the Ivies,etc., all elite academic institutions,..... or schools such as Maryland, Penn State, UNC, UVa, top state schools, who take no back seat when it comes to academics or alumni networks. to pass on those to attend Winthrop, or High Point, or Rutgers, or name any other D-I school with an above average lacrosse program.
And the reason is they might get more playing time?
I have news for you, the name on the degree does matter. It will help you get that first job, and that first job will be a better one because of that degree. And the alumni network will always be larger and more influential at those schools.

I'll tell you a story. I know a family who's oldest daughter went to an elite academic school, with an struggling lax program. She started all four years, loved her teammates and the school. Loved that she made an impact and the program returned to top 20.
Her sister was better, could have gone almost anywhere. She went to Maryland. Barely saw the field for two years. I asked her dad how was she handling the lack of PT? He said she is loving the team, loving the competition, loves being on the best team in the Nation and wouldn't change a thing. I asked her sister why she didn't follow in her footsteps and take what she had started up a notch? She said that her sister always wanted to play with the great teams at Maryland, and have an opportunity to win a National title. She was comfortable competing for time, and knew that the coaches would play the best players. If that was her great, if she was a sub she was fine with that also.

Yeah, would it be nice if great players didn't all go to the best schools with the best programs, sure. But there are plenty of reasons beyond playing time that should determine their choices. And the one that should not be a factor is that their Mom and Dad will struggle with the notion their little superstar is on the sideline, when they're used to seeing her on the field.
Maybe I am an Idiot. You make some very valid points and I am glad that girl was happy with her experience, but does that mean we should all travel that path? I was taught, and I taught my kids, to blaze ther own path, not to follow but to leed, I have had that very conversation with my daughters, but it was a little different. Yes you are correct all those schools have very strong alumni networks, that anyone would be smart to try to take advantage of. But let me lay out a hypothetical situation, let's say a girl really loves to compete, but also likes to try to build a legacy of her own. She reall want to play every minuet she can in competition not only on the practice field, but the playing field also, so she goes to a lower ranked school and loves her school and teammates just as much as the girl in your story, and dispite the odds she graduates and becomes successful, even though her school isn't as prestigious as an ivy or Notre Dame, and she decides to help other girls from her alma mater succeed as she has, isn't that the way alumni networks happen, or should it only happen for the schools on your list? Do the alumni networks at every other school not count? Should we all follow you and your friend like sheep because it worked for you and it's safe?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some on this board so quick to call others names? It's so childish to do so simply because they don't agree with you. Strength of schedule shouldn't be disregarded, but not as heavily considered. If LIU Brooklyn should ever have a better record than N.U than yes they should get there shot and not dismissed because they didn't lose to someone.

Because they are responding to morons like yourself . When you say teams such as Winthrop should get into the NCAA tournament ahead of a team like Syracuse it makes it difficult not to call you a name . When it's obvious you have a personal issue with a player on NU so you come in this site to try and make young women and their parents feel badly simply because your kid was considered consistently lesser than theirs in the classroom and on the lax field it gets old. You come across to others on this site and most likely to your own daughter as an impotent little man .
You are a bitter little person. If Northwestern has proven anything this year it is that with this current roster, they do not have what it takes to win. It does not matter if they lost by 1 or 100, they have already played the top teams and lost. No one said that Winthrop should go in over ' use, because Syracuse, unlike Northwestern win. Why shouldn't Winthrop get the chance to go to tournament, they have won 17, and if they win even 1 game in tournament maybe they will start getting the better players, or is that what you're afraid of, schools that are not worthy in your mind getting better than your beloved Northwestern. Since your so hung up on college names and apparently Winthrop is good enough for you, how abou Navy, Ohio State and Loyola all have10 or more wins are they good enough? You snob

he called you a snob you can't sit there and take that sitting down... fight! fight! fight!

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” I have seen that this moron is obsessed with a program and sadly I believe one kid in the program in particular. Starting to think he may actually have enough of a learning deficit that he cannot understand simple logic.
The bottom line is NU is a good team with a mediocre record.
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The bottom line is NU is a good team with a mediocre record.

An average team with an average record. They should not get in the tournament with those credentials.
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Probably But the topic has sparked some interesting side discussions about the broader sport. I think SOS matters. I think the rule that you must have at least a .500 record to get in prevents the truly mediocre from getting in when the reality is, the ONLY way a 9-7, 8-8 type team will get in is if they have an overwhelmingly tough schedule, have won some of those games (NU has beaten #6, #7, #13 and lost to #3 in OT). I think Laxpower rankings are a pretty source for a computer model that takes all of this into consideration. Those rankings have NU ranked 10th in the nation. While not perfect, that's a pretty good indication of why they should be considered for the tournament, if they finish .500 or better.

As to the 'weaker' schools ... the equivalent of mid-majors in basketball, that's why the conference winners get in. They have their chance as well. I really don't think lax is all that much different than any other NCAA sport in regards to dominant teams/conferences. It is just earlier in its growth curve. NU themselves were an unbelievable underdog once upon a time. USC looks to be one that might push the "establishment" next. The game is growing and I think we might all be surprised 10 years from now with the geographical diversity of strong programs and how that will continue to loosen the stranglehold on the top by a few programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably But the topic has sparked some interesting side discussions about the broader sport. I think SOS matters. I think the rule that you must have at least a .500 record to get in prevents the truly mediocre from getting in when the reality is, the ONLY way a 9-7, 8-8 type team will get in is if they have an overwhelmingly tough schedule, have won some of those games (NU has beaten #6, #7, #13 and lost to #3 in OT). I think Laxpower rankings are a pretty source for a computer model that takes all of this into consideration. Those rankings have NU ranked 10th in the nation. While not perfect, that's a pretty good indication of why they should be considered for the tournament, if they finish .500 or better.

As to the 'weaker' schools ... the equivalent of mid-majors in basketball, that's why the conference winners get in. They have their chance as well. I really don't think lax is all that much different than any other NCAA sport in regards to dominant teams/conferences. It is just earlier in its growth curve. NU themselves were an unbelievable underdog once upon a time. USC looks to be one that might push the "establishment" next. The game is growing and I think we might all be surprised 10 years from now with the geographical diversity of strong programs and how that will continue to loosen the stranglehold on the top by a few programs.
I think, at this time .500 is too shallow a pool, .666 or 2/3 of your games is better.
So besides the AQ and the obvious at large teams who should be in the 26 team field ? And why ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably But the topic has sparked some interesting side discussions about the broader sport. I think SOS matters. I think the rule that you must have at least a .500 record to get in prevents the truly mediocre from getting in when the reality is, the ONLY way a 9-7, 8-8 type team will get in is if they have an overwhelmingly tough schedule, have won some of those games (NU has beaten #6, #7, #13 and lost to #3 in OT). I think Laxpower rankings are a pretty source for a computer model that takes all of this into consideration. Those rankings have NU ranked 10th in the nation. While not perfect, that's a pretty good indication of why they should be considered for the tournament, if they finish .500 or better.

As to the 'weaker' schools ... the equivalent of mid-majors in basketball, that's why the conference winners get in. They have their chance as well. I really don't think lax is all that much different than any other NCAA sport in regards to dominant teams/conferences. It is just earlier in its growth curve. NU themselves were an unbelievable underdog once upon a time. USC looks to be one that might push the "establishment" next. The game is growing and I think we might all be surprised 10 years from now with the geographical diversity of strong programs and how that will continue to loosen the stranglehold on the top by a few programs.
I think, at this time .500 is too shallow a pool, .666 or 2/3 of your games is better.

Maybe. With so few truly strong conferences though, .500 seems better to me. The Virginia example cited earlier explains why. A team from the ACC, with a .500 record made it to the final 4. Right now, there are too few strong conferences, and w only 17 games, .666 would punish some of the best teams for their difficult schedules while rewarding weaker teams in weaker conferences. I want to see the best teams in the tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably But the topic has sparked some interesting side discussions about the broader sport. I think SOS matters. I think the rule that you must have at least a .500 record to get in prevents the truly mediocre from getting in when the reality is, the ONLY way a 9-7, 8-8 type team will get in is if they have an overwhelmingly tough schedule, have won some of those games (NU has beaten #6, #7, #13 and lost to #3 in OT). I think Laxpower rankings are a pretty source for a computer model that takes all of this into consideration. Those rankings have NU ranked 10th in the nation. While not perfect, that's a pretty good indication of why they should be considered for the tournament, if they finish .500 or better.

As to the 'weaker' schools ... the equivalent of mid-majors in basketball, that's why the conference winners get in. They have their chance as well. I really don't think lax is all that much different than any other NCAA sport in regards to dominant teams/conferences. It is just earlier in its growth curve. NU themselves were an unbelievable underdog once upon a time. USC looks to be one that might push the "establishment" next. The game is growing and I think we might all be surprised 10 years from now with the geographical diversity of strong programs and how that will continue to loosen the stranglehold on the top by a few programs.
I think, at this time .500 is too shallow a pool, .666 or 2/3 of your games is better.

Maybe. With so few truly strong conferences though, .500 seems better to me. The Virginia example cited earlier explains why. A team from the ACC, with a .500 record made it to the final 4. Right now, there are too few strong conferences, and w only 17 games, .666 would punish some of the best teams for their difficult schedules while rewarding weaker teams in weaker conferences. I want to see the best teams in the tournament.

Just as long as we don't have to see Northworstern.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There just isn't enough talent in D1. The top teams regardless of their record are miles ahead of teams in the middle and teams down around #70 to 110 have no business being in D1.

The sport needs to expand their pool of champions so the sport expands competitively
I believe the only way that was that will happen is to find a better way to disperse the top talent. By sending the same 10 teams into tournament every year you get a log jam of talent to those schools. There are girls sitting on the bench for up to 2 to 3 years that could make the mid to lower range teams much better, if they thought that a team like Winthrop could get a chance to go to tournament don't you think? But with the pressure to win tomorrow, and mommy and daddy wanting bragging rights about their kid playing for the best team, kids are running to these schools to sit on the bench, when they could be going to a different school and playing right away. If you think about it it's a total waste of talent. Good players only being used for practice that maybe get to see 100 minuets a year instead of playing 900 minuets. All so that we as parents can brag about The name on top of a degree, that quite frankly, after you get your first job, means much less.

Wow, talk about having a weird sense of priorities. You would like kids who have the opportunity to attend prestigious private schools like Duke, Northwestern, ND, the Ivies,etc., all elite academic institutions,..... or schools such as Maryland, Penn State, UNC, UVa, top state schools, who take no back seat when it comes to academics or alumni networks. to pass on those to attend Winthrop, or High Point, or Rutgers, or name any other D-I school with an above average lacrosse program.
And the reason is they might get more playing time?
I have news for you, the name on the degree does matter. It will help you get that first job, and that first job will be a better one because of that degree. And the alumni network will always be larger and more influential at those schools.

I'll tell you a story. I know a family who's oldest daughter went to an elite academic school, with an struggling lax program. She started all four years, loved her teammates and the school. Loved that she made an impact and the program returned to top 20.
Her sister was better, could have gone almost anywhere. She went to Maryland. Barely saw the field for two years. I asked her dad how was she handling the lack of PT? He said she is loving the team, loving the competition, loves being on the best team in the Nation and wouldn't change a thing. I asked her sister why she didn't follow in her footsteps and take what she had started up a notch? She said that her sister always wanted to play with the great teams at Maryland, and have an opportunity to win a National title. She was comfortable competing for time, and knew that the coaches would play the best players. If that was her great, if she was a sub she was fine with that also.

Yeah, would it be nice if great players didn't all go to the best schools with the best programs, sure. But there are plenty of reasons beyond playing time that should determine their choices. And the one that should not be a factor is that their Mom and Dad will struggle with the notion their little superstar is on the sideline, when they're used to seeing her on the field.
Maybe I am an Idiot. You make some very valid points and I am glad that girl was happy with her experience, but does that mean we should all travel that path? I was taught, and I taught my kids, to blaze ther own path, not to follow but to leed, I have had that very conversation with my daughters, but it was a little different. Yes you are correct all those schools have very strong alumni networks, that anyone would be smart to try to take advantage of. But let me lay out a hypothetical situation, let's say a girl really loves to compete, but also likes to try to build a legacy of her own. She reall want to play every minuet she can in competition not only on the practice field, but the playing field also, so she goes to a lower ranked school and loves her school and teammates just as much as the girl in your story, and dispite the odds she graduates and becomes successful, even though her school isn't as prestigious as an ivy or Notre Dame, and she decides to help other girls from her alma mater succeed as she has, isn't that the way alumni networks happen, or should it only happen for the schools on your list? Do the alumni networks at every other school not count? Should we all follow you and your friend like sheep because it worked for you and it's safe?