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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.

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what do women's lax teams bring to the table for their colleges?

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.

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what do women's lax teams bring to the table for their colleges?

The same thing as every other athletic program/sport at that school with the exception of football and basketball (if/for the schools that make money on these programs). An enhancement of student athletes, and the benefits from developing/fostering student athletes that bring with them to a university the values of amateurism and collegence. The military Academies are huge on athletics for the proven fact that many futre leaders emrge though sport.

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


Let them start later and play 2-3 a week instead of these dragged out schedules

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


Let them start later and play 2-3 a week instead of these dragged out schedules


Hey lacrosse dad, your daughter is there to get an education right???? As it is, the top programs have way too much travel since so few programs are strong

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating


Have you been drinking?

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To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse


College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.
Easier to do because they don't need a ton of seating


Have you been drinking?


I get their point ... saying that they r not building an indoor football stadium etc. They r building an amazing 250 million dollar facility though that will also allow indoor lax games and seating for maybe a couple thousand.

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola

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To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse


College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.


So is Stony Brook. Your tax $ at work.

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College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


NU is building a beautiful indoor facility.


So is Stony Brook. Your tax $ at work.
Any thing being built a S.B. is because of the money that was given to them by that hedge fund guy

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I get their point ... saying that they r not building an indoor football stadium etc. They r building an amazing 250 million dollar facility though that will also allow indoor lax games and seating for maybe a couple thousand. [/quote]

Exactly, read their press release it is a practice facility for football with a full size field and only in extreme circumstances will lacrosse play games indoors because the field is narrower than their outdoor lacrosse field and will only have portable seating for 1,000 spectators. Still great to have especially in the windy winters

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?

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To discuss the 2016 college season and the state of women's lacrosse


College season starts way too early. 15 degrees this Saturday for most of the northeast games. NCAA wonders why attendance is down for both boys and girls lacrosse.


Championship weekend is already almost a month past graduation at most schools, can't keep the athletes there forever. Agree with the weather issues, but not much choice in the Northeast or Midwest - have to start early or they'll never get the games in. Need more Carrier Domes!


When I played ~15 years ago (ha!), we started much later yet still fit in the championship on Memorial Day weekend. Why the change? Conference tournaments could all be significantly shortened.

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I think a lot of the predictions are based on recruiting class and on graduation of key players. I dont think the unproven freshmen class players should make such a difference this early on in the season.

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?


SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern


Maybe not ND either - lucky to get a win yesterday, Stanford gave the game away. one of the rare occasions when ND out coaches anyone, cant see halfpenny lasting if this year is another debacle

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?


SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.


Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!

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ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?


SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.


Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!


Based on performance I think 11 is about right this time of year. Once they knock off a couple of teams and some of the Top 10 teams lose a few games I think SBU will have a legitimate claim to be ranked higher. Until they prove it on the field (i believe they will) it is all just hype.

Not sure that I understand your point regarding school size. "Mid major sized school" ? what does school size have to do with anything? SBU falls about in the middle of the schools listed in terms of size. Duke, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame and Loyola all significantly smaller enrollment. Also, not sure what you mean by "very small portion of the resources". I believe SBU is fully funded in terms of scholarships. Their facilities are very good (stadium / weight room etc..) Where are they falling short in terms of resources?

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Don't the national publications have SB at 4 or 5? Why no love for the Seawolves?


SBU has been given a lot of attention over the past two years. They had a good year last year but in the end they did not get it done. They did not have a very strong strength of schedule (not their fault). Notre Dame, Florida and Northwestern all had down years. SBU beat some good programs but they did not beat good teams. Florida had 6 losses, Northwestern had 7 losses and Notre Dame had 9 losses. Their schedule is not very difficult this year either. I think they are loaded with talent but if you want to be ranked in the top 10 you have to play and beat good teams. They have not done anything to suggest that they should be ranked in the top 5.


Their conference schedule hurts strength of schedule. Where SB has gone in the past four years is beyond admirable. Beating Florida, Northwestern and ND IS a great accomplishment for a mid major sized school with a very small portion of the resources their competition has. Looking at their roster it is a young team with its best days ahead! My daughter looked hard at SB and decided to go away. I can tell you it is a program respected by other top 10 schools an honest ranking for an emerging SB is between 6-10 give or take. Best time of the year!!
this probably will not make it to post because this board protects him, but J.S. is not respected amongst most D1 coaches


I believe they respect his ability to coach. Not sure how the feel about him personally but anyone who does not respect his ability to Identify talent, recruit, teach, prepare etc.. is not being honest.

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ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10


It's as expected. ND is better than Stanford. And Stanford is not top ten, sorry Stanford dad.

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ND beating Stanford is a good win for ND. Stanford is a great program. Top 10


Stop!

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What's your opinion on D2 schools in the tri state area?

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What's your opinion on D2 schools in the tri state area?


Ranked by average SAT scores needed it would be- Adelphi, Molloy, New Haven, LIU Post and then Mercy and Dowling who's entrance requirements are so low they don't publish.

Lacrosse wise over the years it would be Adelphi #1 LIU Post, New Haven, Dowling, and then Molloy and Mercy ties at bottom

Adelphi is a pretty clear winner and has continued winning even after Spalina left for Stony Brook

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BOTC Top 20

1. North Carolina
2. Maryland
3. Northwestern
4. Syracuse
5. Penn State
6. Duke
7. Florida
8. Virginia
9. Boston College
10. Princeton
11. Stony Brook
12. Penn
13. Stanford
14. Hopkins
15. Notre Dame
16. James Madison
17. Southern Cal
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Loyola


Pre season polls have James Madison, U Mass, Jacksonville all dropping out of the top 20 to make room for Ohio St, Louisville, and Princeton. Of teams that remain in the top 20 Northwestern and ND are expected to make the biggest jump
Well maybe not Northwestern


Maybe not ND either - lucky to get a win yesterday, Stanford gave the game away. one of the rare occasions when ND out coaches anyone, cant see halfpenny lasting if this year is another debacle


So is Bokker a bad coach? Interesting. Some Stanford guy keeps talking about how great they r. Guess his daughter is going to be disappointed.

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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !

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I would love to see Binghamton develop into a competitive lacrosse school for both Men and Women. I think it would be good for NY and our kids. Having Albany, Stony Brook, and a stronger Binghampton would offer our kids another college lacrosse, solid academic, and realistic financial opportunity for many of our kids.

There must be a bunch of "blue collar/middle class" girls/boys on Long Island and upstate that are solid lax players and students that might not be able to afford out of state or private school tuition that Binghampton could recruit.

Stony Book is dominated by Long Island kids, Albany is dominated by the Capital region, There has to be a ton of quality kids that could spill over on to Binghampton's lap.

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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !


Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.

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Makes no difference regardless 1st game or 2nd , Syracuse 2nd 3rd or 4th line that program should be able to dominate Binghamton wouldn't you say ? Your willing to Bet sounds like this may have hit a nerve..lol .. Reality of it is all programs come and go in cycles . Stony Brook being one of them , as Northwestern was years ago.. its the luck of the draw for recruitment and team bond in any program .

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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !


Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.

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Syracuse should have lit up the Bing. Syracuse better get it together quick as Bing is ranked closer to 100 than number 1 but early in the season a win is a win.

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Makes no difference regardless 1st game or 2nd , Syracuse 2nd 3rd or 4th line that program should be able to dominate Binghamton wouldn't you say ? Your willing to Bet sounds like this may have hit a nerve..lol .. Reality of it is all programs come and go in cycles . Stony Brook being one of them , as Northwestern was years ago.. its the luck of the draw for recruitment and team bond in any program .

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Either Syracuse lost some steam or Binghamton picked up some really solid players , close call for Syracuse yesterday , looks like some tides may be changing with many teams this season , should be very interesting !


Or, just maybe Syracuse played two games on Sunday (Binghamton being the second game). I would be willing to bet the Syracuse starting lineup was different for each of the contests. I would also bet that a lot of different girls saw action.


All bench players and freshman played the entire second game. Syracuse rested the big guns. Great to see all the girls get time in a day night doubleheader

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Syracuse should have lit up the Bing. Syracuse better get it together quick as Bing is ranked closer to 100 than number 1 but early in the season a win is a win.


The above poster is 100% correct..the top players for Syracuse stayed in their sweats for the game against Bing..i'm sure Gait to it easy on Bing. as you say a win is a win.. Treanor could have dropped 10 on Bing and ten gotten criticized for running up her stats trying to win the tewaraton award.

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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1

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Since 1990 there have only been 5 programs to win the national championship. I think everyone had hoped the game would have had a better competitive balance by now but it just cant seem to break through. After the top 10-15 programs the talent level still falls off a cliff. Everyone plays by the same scholarship rules so why can't other programs break in?

Maryland has 11, Northwestern 7, Princeton 3, Virginia 3, North Carolina 1


And there are 3 likely contenders this year ... MD, UNC, SYR ... I would place large dollars on one of those 3 winning this year.

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