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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #189315 10/11/16 04:23 PM
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long winded story coach, tell it again!. my story, h.s.football team is very good one of the best on li 7 kids recuited. lax team wone 5 games last year 16 kids recuited . no travel in this town.

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Anonymous #189650 10/12/16 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
long winded story coach, tell it again!. my story, h.s.football team is very good one of the best on li 7 kids recuited. lax team wone 5 games last year 16 kids recuited . no travel in this town.


Only team with 5 wins in Suffolk last year was Longwood. Yes, good football. Only 2 kids at low D-3 listed. In Nassau, Levittown-Divsion had 5 lax wins, pretty good football, not great. Same thing 2 low D-3 laxrecruits. Sewanaka and Freeport also only had 5 lax wins. No recruits listed. Doesn't mean there weren't more, but story sounds like B.S.

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B_O_T_C #189855 10/13/16 02:56 PM
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Division has pretty good football? Not since the Mid 80's.

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B_O_T_C #189907 10/13/16 07:42 PM
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Some great advice and I thank you but what do you call a college coach that calls a high school coach to ask about a kid or that he has received email saying that they saw him play which I know for a fact that they were at the tournament. To me I call that expressing interest in the kid. They wouldn't call a coach if they were not interested in recruiting him. Not knocking anyone that plays travel but I know kids from my town that went on to play D1 and only played for their hs teams not travel. So my statement is right that you don't really need travel to go to a D1 school. I hope everyone's kid gets looks from D1 schools if that's what you as parents want for your kid. From what I know is that if you approach a coach he will not talk to you about you kid but if you introduce yourself then they are allowed to talk to you and that came out of the mouth of the college scout. If I'm wrong then I would like to hear from you.

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Anonymous #189941 10/14/16 05:41 AM
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Some great advice and I thank you but what do you call a college coach that calls a high school coach to ask about a kid or that he has received email saying that they saw him play which I know for a fact that they were at the tournament. To me I call that expressing interest in the kid. They wouldn't call a coach if they were not interested in recruiting him. Not knocking anyone that plays travel but I know kids from my town that went on to play D1 and only played for their hs teams not travel. So my statement is right that you don't really need travel to go to a D1 school. I hope everyone's kid gets looks from D1 schools if that's what you as parents want for your kid. From what I know is that if you approach a coach he will not talk to you about you kid but if you introduce yourself then they are allowed to talk to you and that came out of the mouth of the college scout. If I'm wrong then I would like to hear from you.


Look, I never said you couldn't get recruited D1 only playing HS. I said the ability to do so is very difficult, unless A: you play for a top program, or B: the kid is just "that" good. I'm not involved with any travel team, just been through the process a few times.
With regard to approaching Coaches at tournaments, I wouldn't do it. That's what your travel coach/hs coach or Director is for. They can freely walk up to them and say, Hey did you see #21? What do you think? Kid is very interested in your program. If your son emailed that Coach prior to the tournament, the Coach may have been there to watch #21 play. Again, for most kids this is a long drawn out process. You and the kid need to be very proactive and out work the other kids and families in the process. Again, if your son is the next Rabil, they will find him. I get it. For everyone else, you had better understand the process, embrace it, and work it. In today's recruiting environment you are competing against really good players on a North American level. There are only approximately 740-760 D1 slots per grade per year. Does playing on a good A level travel team, in competitive tournaments, help you in this process? In my experience, definitely. Don't believe me? Go to lax power, look up recruits per grade, breakdown number of recruits from LI. Further, see how many kids from LI at your son's position have been recruited in his year and year above. Not that many kids, and most are travel. Think of all the kids that play attack or goalie just on LI. Then see how many are D1 commits. Not that many... Process in very difficult, and getting more competitive every year!!!

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Anonymous #189981 10/14/16 09:34 AM
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Some great advice and I thank you but what do you call a college coach that calls a high school coach to ask about a kid or that he has received email saying that they saw him play which I know for a fact that they were at the tournament. To me I call that expressing interest in the kid. They wouldn't call a coach if they were not interested in recruiting him. Not knocking anyone that plays travel but I know kids from my town that went on to play D1 and only played for their hs teams not travel. So my statement is right that you don't really need travel to go to a D1 school. I hope everyone's kid gets looks from D1 schools if that's what you as parents want for your kid. From what I know is that if you approach a coach he will not talk to you about you kid but if you introduce yourself then they are allowed to talk to you and that came out of the mouth of the college scout. If I'm wrong then I would like to hear from you.


Look, I never said you couldn't get recruited D1 only playing HS. I said the ability to do so is very difficult, unless A: you play for a top program, or B: the kid is just "that" good. I'm not involved with any travel team, just been through the process a few times.
With regard to approaching Coaches at tournaments, I wouldn't do it. That's what your travel coach/hs coach or Director is for. They can freely walk up to them and say, Hey did you see #21? What do you think? Kid is very interested in your program. If your son emailed that Coach prior to the tournament, the Coach may have been there to watch #21 play. Again, for most kids this is a long drawn out process. You and the kid need to be very proactive and out work the other kids and families in the process. Again, if your son is the next Rabil, they will find him. I get it. For everyone else, you had better understand the process, embrace it, and work it. In today's recruiting environment you are competing against really good players on a North American level. There are only approximately 740-760 D1 slots per grade per year. Does playing on a good A level travel team, in competitive tournaments, help you in this process? In my experience, definitely. Don't believe me? Go to lax power, look up recruits per grade, breakdown number of recruits from LI. Further, see how many kids from LI at your son's position have been recruited in his year and year above. Not that many kids, and most are travel. Think of all the kids that play attack or goalie just on LI. Then see how many are D1 commits. Not that many... Process in very difficult, and getting more competitive every year!!!


Having gone through this with our son I can verify that the above post is very accurate. Think about it in these terms; with early recruiting becoming the standard, if one follows the rosters of a given college grad year at the D1 programs, it can be seen how quickly these fill up with kids who haven't even played a game of high school ball.

All of these kids play high level lax on great club teams from around the nation and if your son only plays high school ball he will be severely limiting his access and exposure. Surely there are non-club playing gems that will be picked as kids mature and become ridiculously great players in high school and these will not go unnoticed.

If you haven't been to one of these high powered club lax tournaments you would be surprised at the numbers of kids who display extremely high skill sets at every position.

Is it any wonder then that college coaches crowd the sidelines at these tournaments? I don't mean 5 or 6 coaches...I mean double digits at most games representing every great institution and they are paying serious attention.

like it or not, club ball has its advantages.

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B_O_T_C #190273 10/17/16 04:45 AM
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What is the best way to go about the recruiting process and how would one know? Naturally they will contact you but prior to all that. Do you take your kid to prospect camps?

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Anonymous #190278 10/17/16 06:46 AM
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Some people believe the best way is to commit to a school early and then let other teams poach because they think you might be good. Usually in the end those kids end up not playing after sophomore year because they see the writing on the wall and they won't be playing in their junior and senior year or the school was not for them but mom and dad want them to go there. It's sad but I see it all the time over the last 15 years. Stop worrying about early committing. Your kids will fit in where they belong and not where mom and dad want for their own egos. Think about it, why does a kid at 15 switch schools in less then 6 months after verbally committing elsewhere. What changed their mind?

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Anonymous #190369 10/17/16 12:38 PM
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What is the best way to go about the recruiting process and how would one know? Naturally they will contact you but prior to all that. Do you take your kid to prospect camps?


the process will take care of itself. let your coaches know which schools the player may be interested in. many times they will contact the college coaches to let them know there is a good player who is interested in them and then the college coach will eventually scout him at one tournament or another. if they are interested they will let your coach know and then the dialogues can start in earnest. other times the player will get noticed of their own accord and the coaches will then contact the players team coach and also start a dialogue.

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1. Search the team on internet.
2. Go to "roster" section.
3. Find recruits section.
4. Fill out recruiting questionnaire. Inform of upcoming tournaments/showcases. If he has a video, send the link.
5. Find coaches email address, if there is a specific positional coach, have your son email him his interest in the university first, then the program, in that order.
6. Let the HS/Club coach know of your son's interest in said program and if they have connection ask them to make contact.
7. Keep updating the coaches through emails of progress and submit new video as it comes available.

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B_O_T_C #190527 10/18/16 04:35 AM
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Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.

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B_O_T_C #190530 10/18/16 05:50 AM
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The process will NOT take care of itself. I was told by multiple D 1 coaches "If your son wants to play at my school then he needs to show interest, there are a ton of kids out there who want to, and can play lacrosse at the next level, I need to know you to find you."

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Anonymous #190540 10/18/16 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The process will NOT take care of itself. I was told by multiple D 1 coaches "If your son wants to play at my school then he needs to show interest, there are a ton of kids out there who want to, and can play lacrosse at the next level, I need to know you to find you."


Couldn't agree more. Process needs to be worked. Advise to the contrary is misleading at best. Every Coach and every assistant Coach on your list of schools that you want to play for needs to know who you are! Plain and simple. Most of the recruiting is done by the assistants! Thinking you're going to a tournament to be "discovered" is not a solid recruiting plan. As good as you think your son is, there are 20 other kids out there who are bigger, stronger, faster, and more talented than yours' with better grades. These Coaches have far more choices in today's recruiting environment than ever before. It is truly a buyers market for them! Look at the rosters of your son's wish list schools, kids from all over the country...

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B_O_T_C #190541 10/18/16 07:44 AM
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agree. the assistant coaches on sidelines already have the numbers and names of those they want to evaluate. they watch a while, then move to next field to do same.

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Anonymous #190631 10/18/16 01:15 PM
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agree. the assistant coaches on sidelines already have the numbers and names of those they want to evaluate. they watch a while, then move to next field to do same.


but those names and numbers do not come from private dad email contacts to college coaches. they come from club/school coach to college coach.

do you seriously think your emails among the hundreds or more that college coaches get that all say come see my son who is great, are actually taken seriously?

they use verifiable sources to start their recruiting.

sorry dad, but your emails are useless.

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