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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #188845 10/08/16 10:45 PM
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Fortunate for our program we have hs coaches that care. They have been around and would be happy to help out the kids. In my son's case the hard work payed off. More hs coaches should do the same for the kids. It's a top hs program that he plays for that has always been successful. Very proud parents of all that he has worked for. Just to put it out there he only played in one recruiting tournament and is getting calls and emails from D1 schools. Keep your kids confidence up and encourage him to go get that spot on varsity if that's one of his goals. You can get looks from D1 without having to do travel is all that I'm trying to say. Don't give all of these travel teams that much credit.

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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #188857 10/09/16 08:03 AM
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Fortunate for our program we have hs coaches that care. They have been around and would be happy to help out the kids. In my son's case the hard work payed off. More hs coaches should do the same for the kids. It's a top hs program that he plays for that has always been successful. Very proud parents of all that he has worked for. Just to put it out there he only played in one recruiting tournament and is getting calls and emails from D1 schools. Keep your kids confidence up and encourage him to go get that spot on varsity if that's one of his goals. You can get looks from D1 without having to do travel is all that I'm trying to say. Don't give all of these travel teams that much credit.


Great for your son.

There are roughly 215 HS Sophomores (2019) committed top play DI Lacrosse.
It looks like 99% of them play club lacrosse.

BTW. it's not all about recruiting. It is also about developing as a player, making friends and starting to developing a network.

Playing against the best competition is an important component of player development. The reality is, most HS programs are not very competitive and most HS games are played at a very slow pace.

Go watch the top 91 team play Mad Lax National or Laxachusetts. Check the 91 or Express Rosters, you will find the rosters loaded with kids from Massapequa, Syosset, Manhasset, Ward Melville, St. Anthony's, Chaminade and other top programs.

Advising against playing club lacrosse is foolish.

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Anonymous #188859 10/09/16 08:29 AM
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Nor saying you shouldn't play travel but that you don't have play travel to get looks from D1 schools. I'm just sick of people saying how many D1 recruits does this organization have or that organization has. Who really cares. Are the kids having fun and are they going to pick a college that suits them is all I care about.

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Anonymous #189015 10/10/16 01:52 PM
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Nor saying you shouldn't play travel but that you don't have play travel to get looks from D1 schools. I'm just sick of people saying how many D1 recruits does this organization have or that organization has. Who really cares. Are the kids having fun and are they going to pick a college that suits them is all I care about.


Eastchester middie from Express North committed to High Point. Congrats. I didn't know they played lacrosse in Eastchester?

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Anonymous #189118 10/10/16 07:59 PM
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Your another one of those non believer's. I said 10 to 15 D1 coaches. 43 total emails were sent to him if you really want to know. Maybe you need me to show you the emails. Oh I deleted them by mistake. Unheard of but no you can say you heard od it. What the heck would I lie to anybody about that. I'm as proud as can be of my son. You don't need travel to get looked at by D1 school and that my friend is a fact. 2


Ok Daddy. Why so angry? You should be happy. Obviously your son "IS" the next Rabil. One tournament and 43 emails from 43 D1 schools, congrats.
Again, not the typical experience of the average D1 commit. Most need to do many events with club and attend showcases on an individual basis. That is why the club piece is so important. To come on here and give people advise to contrary is just silly. Again, your son is the exception by a wide margin. Not the rule. If you look at the top 100 commits in every grade 95+ percent are travel club players. So by that measure, I would say almost all top recruits needed travel lacrosse. But hey, yours didn't. Be happy, you saved all that money and got the scholarship.

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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
B_O_T_C #189152 10/11/16 05:07 AM
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This is why people get mad when they post something on this site. Again it's 10 to 15 emails were sent to my son from D1 schools. He is not the next rabil but is a hard worker. 43 emails from all different schools not all D1 schools. To be honest with you I only went to one prospect camp out of all of the schools that expressed interest. I am very proud but I'm not jumping on the band wagon so I can say my son gave a verbal to blah blah blah. Some of you parents are so full of yourselves it's sickening at times to read. My son will find his way and find the college that's right for him cause that's what I teach him. If he gets money from whatever school he gets into then God bless him if not then so be it. I'm realistic and I know my kid and others that are out there that he is better than that have given a verbal in tenth grade and most of that comes from the parents so that they can brag about their kid. Get real and let your kid make his own choice in life. Support them in every way we can. That's my opinion.

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Anonymous #189177 10/11/16 07:58 AM
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I think you need to differentiate between being recruited and receiving emails from colleges. My son receives daily emails and has heard from dozens of D1 and D3 colleges but that doesn't mean he is being recruited. I think coaches buy lists from showcases, tourneys or club programs. If you are being recruited (hence college coach reached out to your HS or club coach to express interest), you will know. And for the record, exactly 1 college coach has reached out to our club team regarding my son.

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Anonymous #189178 10/11/16 08:01 AM
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This is why people get mad when they post something on this site. Again it's 10 to 15 emails were sent to my son from D1 schools. He is not the next rabil but is a hard worker. 43 emails from all different schools not all D1 schools. To be honest with you I only went to one prospect camp out of all of the schools that expressed interest. I am very proud but I'm not jumping on the band wagon so I can say my son gave a verbal to blah blah blah. Some of you parents are so full of yourselves it's sickening at times to read. My son will find his way and find the college that's right for him cause that's what I teach him. If he gets money from whatever school he gets into then God bless him if not then so be it. I'm realistic and I know my kid and others that are out there that he is better than that have given a verbal in tenth grade and most of that comes from the parents so that they can brag about their kid. Get real and let your kid make his own choice in life. Support them in every way we can. That's my opinion.


How old is your son??? Im assuming he's a sophomore being the forum this conversation is taking place. With that said, Im curious to the content of these 43 emails. With the strict rules NCAA has placed on the coaches, aside from invites to prospect camps, etc., they are PROHIBITED from emailing or calling recruits until their junior year. Care to share?

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B_O_T_C #189181 10/11/16 08:29 AM
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don't worry. if you respond to an email trolling for "prospect camp" attendees, you are fine. its a mass mailing generated , as prior post said by coaches simply acquiring lists. its NOT a recruiting letter.

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Anonymous #189183 10/11/16 08:37 AM
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This is why people get mad when they post something on this site. Again it's 10 to 15 emails were sent to my son from D1 schools. He is not the next rabil but is a hard worker. 43 emails from all different schools not all D1 schools. To be honest with you I only went to one prospect camp out of all of the schools that expressed interest. I am very proud but I'm not jumping on the band wagon so I can say my son gave a verbal to blah blah blah. Some of you parents are so full of yourselves it's sickening at times to read. My son will find his way and find the college that's right for him cause that's what I teach him. If he gets money from whatever school he gets into then God bless him if not then so be it. I'm realistic and I know my kid and others that are out there that he is better than that have given a verbal in tenth grade and most of that comes from the parents so that they can brag about their kid. Get real and let your kid make his own choice in life. Support them in every way we can. That's my opinion.


Ok, so now all your facts are on the table. To be clear, you're the one that came on here all full of bluster about how people "do not need travel lacrosse to recruited". Those are your words. You are also the one that made it personal, about your own son. You further insinuated he was an example of how you don't need travel lacrosse to get recruited. Again your words. Please, it's time for you to stop.
Receiving an email from a coach about a prospect day is great, very exciting. It can be the first indication of minimal interest. More likely than not, it's a form email where they may or may not have added his name to the email program they use. Even if addressed with his first name. Is it better than not getting any emails? Sure. However, these emails should not be considered as the program recruiting your son. Prospect days are used for two things. One, to get a look at 5-10 kids a program is really interested in. Two, to get $150-$200 from the other 50 or 60 kids to support the program. My son's friends received many emails from events they didn't even attend due to scheduling conflicts.
Please understand, I'm in no way bashing your son, I sure he's a great player.
I am calling you out on your ridiculous advise to people on how they don't need travel lacrosse, when almost all recruits "are" travel kids. Again, if your son is playing at top 4 or 5 HS program on LI and is standout there, then maybe he doesn't need travel. If not, then it's bad advise from someone who clearly has zero understanding of the recruiting process. Believe me, did I enjoy spending all that money club? No, but I cannot argue with the results.
If I had to guess, I would bet you are HS Coach who thinks he's got the recruiting process all nailed down. One that spews nonsense about how "you don't need travel". Pay, I mean play for me all summer. Sound familiar?

If you are truly a parent, and not a HS Coach, I implore you educate yourself on the recruiting process.

Ask yourself these questions:

After receiving these emails, did you call these programs and talk to the Coaches? Did you determine their level of interest?

Did your HS Coach call any of these Coaches to determine interest?

Did anyone talk to the Coaches to determine the actual level of interest?

Did any of these programs call your Coach?
Do you know for sure if your Coach shared with you if any of these Coaches called about your son? I bet you didn't know some HS Coaches will withhold that information for whatever reason. Some just forget. Did you know that?

Did anyone follow up the day after your son attended his prospect day to determine where he stands with the program?

Is your HS Coach proactively reaching out to the schools on your list letting them know what a great player your son is, and how they seriously need to consider him as a recruit?

Look I really don't care what you do, makes no difference to me. Mine are both done. I can tell you from experience, my son's HS Coaches were not doing any of the above. Sadly, they did forget tell us about schools that were interested. They did the same to other kids as well.

Again, when you come on here and spout about how kids don't need travel, you sound clueless. I'm glad we didn't leave my son's dreams and aspirations in the hands of his HS Coaches. By the way, there is real money out there for talented lacrosse kids with decent grades. 25, 40, even 60% of the total cost of college. With schools costing nearly $240,000 for a four year degree, that's between $60,000-$150,000 you're talking about saving. YES, that kind of money is out there for the right player at the right program. If anyone tells you differently, they're either jealous or misinformed.

Ask yourself one last question: Is this the kind of financial situation you're going to leave in the hands of your HS Coach?

Good Luck!

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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
B_O_T_C #189191 10/11/16 09:16 AM
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true about parents and the prospect camp delusion. its neither exclusive nor an aggressive recruiting letter. its an advertisement. don't believe the part where it says limited invitees or attendees...they NEVER turn kids down to attend

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Anonymous #189217 10/11/16 10:33 AM
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true about parents and the prospect camp delusion. its neither exclusive nor an aggressive recruiting letter. its an advertisement. don't believe the part where it says limited invitees or attendees...they NEVER turn kids down to attend


So na´ve this statement is on its face. Yes, The prospect letter is a generic come one come all (NCAA rules and all). But, it is also sent to the kids who have expressed interest (filled out questionnaire) and those that the school has interest in.

To say they never turn down a player, I guess you don't have a goalie. Even the very best of Goalies get shut out at times. I have yet to see 6 attack - 9 middies - and 8 poles at a prospect camp.


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Anonymous #189239 10/11/16 11:37 AM
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true about parents and the prospect camp delusion. its neither exclusive nor an aggressive recruiting letter. its an advertisement. don't believe the part where it says limited invitees or attendees...they NEVER turn kids down to attend


So na´ve this statement is on its face. Yes, The prospect letter is a generic come one come all (NCAA rules and all). But, it is also sent to the kids who have expressed interest (filled out questionnaire) and those that the school has interest in.

To say they never turn down a player, I guess you don't have a goalie. Even the very best of Goalies get shut out at times. I have yet to see 6 attack - 9 middies - and 8 poles at a prospect camp.



No they're not. My son has received many prospect camp letters from schools we never reached out to nor had any interest in. Colleges get lists from previous tournaments/showcases your son has attended. I would venture to guess a majority of the emails sent are off of these lists. Sorry to rain on your parade but not every correspondence from a school means they are interested in recruiting your son. That's the fact sorry to say.

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B_O_T_C #189254 10/11/16 12:09 PM
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TELL THAT TO MY NEIGHBOR...ITS SO PAINFUL LISTENING TO HIS B.S. I DUCK HIM. I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THOSE!!!

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Anonymous #189284 10/11/16 01:50 PM
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You said previous tournaments but that was the first one. Good try. What about phone calls? That don't count.

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