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Re: Cascade R helmets not certified
LAXDADDY32 #100405 12/24/14 10:34 AM
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Not sure where you are but try Port Jeff Sports or Olympic Den.
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Anyone have any idea where I can get a new face mask for my R Helmet? Cascade will not ship any parts!

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Anonymous #100418 12/24/14 12:44 PM
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What does the helmet have to do with a concussion? But, hey, why let physiology get in the way of a juicy lawsuit.

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LAXDADDY32 #100428 12/24/14 03:20 PM
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Got mine back today. I sent it without the chin strap and got it back with a new one. Strange, but welcome... I guess they would have deemed it unsafe without a chin strap, so I got a new one. The helmet fits as well as it did before I sent it back. Nice recovery Cascade!

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That sight popped out a few days after the announcement, just pure crap. You really think that there were that many concussions by players using this helmet as opposed to any other helmet, you are dreaming.

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Anonymous #100452 12/25/14 05:39 PM
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I guess it doesn't matter how many concussions there have been if your son or daughter sustained one in this helmet before it was "fixed."

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess it doesn't matter how many concussions there have been if your son or daughter sustained one in this helmet before it was "fixed."


There will be concussions after the "fix". Helmets can do little to prevent concussions. It's simple physics.

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Anonymous #100470 12/26/14 08:24 AM
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Correct, but these helmets pre-fix did not pass the NOCSAE standard, which is designed to prevent skull fractures. Certainly seems possible these helmets did less to prevent a concussion, than a certified helmet would have, if a player was hit on the top of the head where NOCSAE is now making Cascade add more foam to pass the certification standards.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Correct, but these helmets pre-fix did not pass the NOCSAE standard, which is designed to prevent skull fractures. Certainly seems possible these helmets did less to prevent a concussion, than a certified helmet would have, if a player was hit on the top of the head where NOCSAE is now making Cascade add more foam to pass the certification standards.


The mechanism of injury for a skull fracture and a concussion are very different. It is possible to have one without the other in either case. Helmets are designed to prevent skull fractures, not concussions.

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You could also have both.

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For those of you who have already received your R helmet back, did Cascade send an email letting you know they shipped it back to you or did the helmet just arrive?


Sent in my son's R helmet from Ft. Lauderdale, FL on 15 December; it was received on the 19th and we received a UPS shipping notice today (12/26) that it is sked for delivery back to us on Monday, 5 January for a total of 3 weeks out-of-service for us.

Luckily for us, we got the R for him while there was still life left in his CPX-R...we will end up using the CPX-R for 3 tournaments, a 4-day goalie school and a Goalies VS Shooters clinic while his R is gone. Only real downside is that my son says he prefers the CPX-R to the R and I hope he's happy with switching back when it comes in. Both models have similar adjustments for sizing, but the CPX-R seems to have a bit more flex in pulling on/off while the R squeezes more on his head when putting it on/taking it off.

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lando622 #100527 12/27/14 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by lando622
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For those of you who have already received your R helmet back, did Cascade send an email letting you know they shipped it back to you or did the helmet just arrive?


Sent in my son's R helmet from Ft. Lauderdale, FL on 15 December; it was received on the 19th and we received a UPS shipping notice today (12/26) that it is sked for delivery back to us on Monday, 5 January for a total of 3 weeks out-of-service for us.

Luckily for us, we got the R for him while there was still life left in his CPX-R...we will end up using the CPX-R for 3 tournaments, a 4-day goalie school and a Goalies VS Shooters clinic while his R is gone. Only real downside is that my son says he prefers the CPX-R to the R and I hope he's happy with switching back when it comes in. Both models have similar adjustments for sizing, but the CPX-R seems to have a bit more flex in pulling on/off while the R squeezes more on his head when putting it on/taking it off.


I think the big concern should be how much lacroase your kid is playing in December!! 😳. I would hate to see the July schedule.

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I think the big concern should be how much lacroase your kid is playing in December!! 😳. I would hate to see the July schedule.

Good one! I guess that does look a bit much, but this is the best part of the year weather-wise down here and some opportunities happened to dovetail just right to allow for extra participation. Most of our teams finish the summer schedule by early to mid-June and July/August are actually pretty wide open...it's uncomfortably hot/humid and a lot of kids are gone for the summer so there isn't a lot of team activity. Many who do happen to be around are playing youth football or soccer at that time and it encroaches into the fall lax season. We're lucky to get a couple tournaments where a whole team is actually together in the late fall season.

His recertified R helmet will be showing up right after the busiest period we've had all year in lax. No worries, and it'll be good to have it back.

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Originally Posted by lando622
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I think the big concern should be how much lacroase your kid is playing in December!! 😳. I would hate to see the July schedule.

Good one! I guess that does look a bit much, but this is the best part of the year weather-wise down here and some opportunities happened to dovetail just right to allow for extra participation. Most of our teams finish the summer schedule by early to mid-June and July/August are actually pretty wide open...it's uncomfortably hot/humid and a lot of kids are gone for the summer so there isn't a lot of team activity. Many who do happen to be around are playing youth football or soccer at that time and it encroaches into the fall lax season. We're lucky to get a couple tournaments where a whole team is actually together in the late fall season.

His recertified R helmet will be showing up right after the busiest period we've had all year in lax. No worries, and it'll be good to have it back.


You sound like a southern parent who has is all squared away. Try to stay away from the NE nuts who have just gone off the rails.

The helmets were "fine", (very few injuries/nothing in the news) prior to this whole fiasco. Since then, Cascade has responded appropriately. Let's not forget the cozy relationship that Nike/Shupp/STX has with regard to NOCSAE.

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