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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 2 hours ago
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My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact

If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.

So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings

This guy brain dead?
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Re: NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse Anonymous 3 hours ago
Given the small amount of teams in the NLF and their affiliates compared to the rest of the country, thats not to bad of a % and it was def higher back in September

The reality is people who say the NLF has no standing anymore in lacrosse clearly have a grudge for some personal reason. They are relevant

The people who say the NLF is the only way to go are also delusional becuase there are plenty of kids from around the country that are not NLF and do great

BUT, if I had to chose one club for my kid to get into a top school? I would roll the dice with an NLF club right now but in 5 years, that may not be the truth
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 3 hours ago
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Your cost / benefit analysis needs work. There are no facts, just feelings. Remove your feelings and you have nothing to base your pathetic rambling on. Big deal that you feel holdbacks are cheaters - noone cares.

You are a fraud becuase you cant come up with any reasons yourself. I think the list does a good job detailing why one should hold back and why one shouldnt. I am against holdbacks because I think it is contributing to the demise of the sport and it would be much better off if everyone just played on age. But i guess reading comprehension is tough tor you becuse I have detailed some reasons why some kids should holdback as it will benefit some but not most. But I can see your reason for holdbacks: daddy ego. Nothing else is relevant to you. Living your life through your child and that is the worst "pros" for doing it. Whats pathetic is your response; care to contribute something a little more than your ego? As to saying no one cares? I think there are a ton of people who care. "No one"? Ha, what an obtuse lost,
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Re: Boys High School Lax Anonymous 4 hours ago
Lot of top 25 and 26 teams and High School players down in Florida for IMLCA tournament. All College coaches are there for their convention. 91,Igloo, Legacy, etc
Should be some good games
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous 4 hours ago
IMLCA ( college and HS coaches assc ) big recruiting tournament this weekend , they supplied team rosters and players birthdays to all its members for recruiting purposes. Many top teams are there . Interesting to see after all these discussions about Holdbacks .
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Re: Boys 2028-8th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 4 hours ago
Chucks only lost by 1. Venom by 4
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Re: Boys 2029 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous 4 hours ago
This team Struggles?? They struggled one fall. Otherwise have been the most dominant regional team in the country for several years. They struggled this fall for a number of reasons and he was one of them. Get a grip people. The guy was spread too thin to coach either team he was tied to successfully. He walked away knowing that they were bringing in another HC regardless. You people need to get a life. The hawks will be fine, and frankly the HC they brought in is a major upgrade on the whole thing. You don’t typically see coaches like this brought in until highschool at the hawks.

This means hogan is setting this team up for success early. He knows what he’s got and isn’t about to lose it. Kudos to hogan and the rest of the coaches(including the one who walked away, knowing the kids would be in good hands) for making sure these kids get what they deserve.

Moving on.
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Re: Boys 2025-11th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 6 hours ago
Yes in this century we still make fun of short people. Do you get out or are you a sheltered rich clown?[/quote]

Not sure what wealth has to do with it but maybe I’m a poor grown up who’s moved on from trying to make myself feel better by making fun of other people’s stature. So yes, the 21st century but I can see you still rocking the high school behaviors. But keep living in the past Biff.[/quote]

Biff is probably still wearing his JV jacket too.
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous 6 hours ago
College Coaches IMLCA is having their recruiting tournament this weekend at their convention. Lot of big name 2025 and 2026 will be there.
Lot of players from Maryland and Virginia High Schools are there. Team 91, Zingos, Team VA, Team America all have players form DMV.
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Re: Boys 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous 6 hours ago
Got a couple teams representing 25 and 26 from Maryland down in Florida at IMLCA this weekend, Team 91 and Zingo's. Lot of big name teams playing there.
They publish all birthdays if you are a member too see. Pretty interesting .
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 9 hours ago
Your cost / benefit analysis needs work. There are no facts, just feelings. Remove your feelings and you have nothing to base your pathetic rambling on. Big deal that you feel holdbacks are cheaters - noone cares.
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous 13 hours ago
We went through the hs selection process last year. IMO It was pretty easy to tell if the interest was real-

Does the school seem sincerely interested and trying to connect to get to know your son?

Are they up front with specific program information? The coaches and programs should be open books. Do they answer all your questions thoroughly? No secrets, no vague information.

We figured- If you didn't treat my son well l, or with respect, or value him during the honeymoon phase, why will it be different when he gets on campus?

We eventually went where our kid seemed most valued and we thought would be most appreciated. And he's been very happy so far.

Trust your gut.
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Re: Boys 2028 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous 13 hours ago
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Re ML DMV. It started this summer. They were in some championship game/tourney....AA or A and CM invited the DMV goalie to the Vail/CAP tournament, didn't tell the parents and the DMV families showed up to play with no goalie. Thus they had to forfeit. As you can imagine, the parents were pissed. What happened after the that, I don't know. I know a bunch of DMV kids tried out for NL and DCE Orange, but don't know how many made it.
That’s smooth work right there from Cabell. Invite the DMV goalie to Vail and don’t tell the DMV team that he’s leaving mid-tournament, and you’ll therefore be forfeiting. But then again, he has no problem forfeiting, or changing the name of his teams to avoid losses piling up on his ranking. What a clown show he is.

He is a leader in club lacrosse in DMV area . Sorry you couldnt make ML or compete against them.

Haha, CM is a joke. It’s amazing how bad your denial is. I feel bad for your kids, they have to play for Cabel and have parents that don’t see why its wrong.
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous 16 hours ago
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is at a private school, starts and isn’t a holdback. The other gentleman’s argument is clear: reclassing is for boys that cannot handle on-age competition.
Fact

If your kid is a dominant player on age you wouldn’t hold them back. Very easy for everyone to understand but impossible for Holdback Lax Bro Dads to admit.

So explain how all these holdbacks are dominating college lacrosse? That’s a fact! Sorry to hurt your feelings

Because they are older.

So you agree that holdbacks are better lacrosse players. Regardless of the circumstances they are better than on age athletes. Therefore those prized scholarships at the “top tier” schools go to the private school holdback. Not your public school on age.

Give me a break. $3.8 billion dollars was given last year in athletic scholarships for ALL sports. Over $48 billion was given in academic scholarships plus another $5 billion from the private sector. If that’s your justification on how to get money for college, get a tutor instead of holding him back for a “niche” sport. So clueless it boggles my mind.
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Re: Boys 2030 Midatlantic Anonymous 16 hours ago
I’ll take MadLax at 2. They’ll beat the Crabs. Clippers will surprise folks as well.
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Re: Girl's 2027 Grades - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous 18 hours ago
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Just wait till they rank alliance

Based on their rating, they would be #10. Much closer to Mass Elite (9) than Prime Time (10)
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 11:49 PM
I would agree that a kid at 13 yrs old is better than the same kid at 12 years old. Holdbacks are cheaters. Most people when they find out you held back will give you no credit for anything you accomplish because you are a cheater.
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Re: Boys 2029 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 11:01 PM
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Whomever wrote the comment about taking a long drive clearly needs to rethink their life. What a terrible human being you are. I’m sure you’re a great parent as well.
Amen
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous Yesterday at 10:50 PM
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THIS IS NOT A FORUM ABOUT LGBTQ+ AND WHETHER OR NOT SCHOOLS ARE TOLERANT!!!!!! MOVE ON.
Get back to lacrosse.

You are obviously an intolerant homophobe and a racist!
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Re: Boys High School Anonymous Yesterday at 10:01 PM
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You are correct. And we are already seeing/hearing it at the middle school club level in Baltimore.

Between the out of towners, boarders, daddyball and donor politics, many local kids know their chances of playing at the top programs are very small.

So while the top half is worried about recruiting talent from around the region, the bottom half of the league seems to be trying to get local kids who want to play in the league and develop.

Not sure if it's gonna work. But it's certainly a trend.



This isn’t a trend. Stop making thing ups on the internet.
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 08:58 PM
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How do classify dominant? How many kids dominate any sport on age? Maybe 1-2 per team or maybe less? This is a notIntelligent argument. If you want to holdback you are welcome to, any parent who doesnt see the value for their child is a m@ron. Seems like a lot of jealous 2029 parents. I would be upset as well, 2029 is an awful class on the island, very little talent.

This may be the densest statement yet. People are “fools and jealous” because they don’t see the “value” in holding back. So let’s start a new thread about “value” vs “cost”

Value
-gets to dominate against younger kids
-an extra year of maturity and maybe get their academics in order
-maybe, just maybe, but unlikely to translate into getting into a top d1 school
-parents get a sense a pride and boast how awesome their kid is

Cost
-you are telling their kid they can’t compete on a level playing field. Usually the parent and maybe the kid won’t ever realize this
-less skill development because you are competing against a less skilled cohort rather than on age
-all those friends he grew up with, say goodbye and here’s a whole new group of players
-this actually a literal cost as holding back may cost in the form of an extra year of tuition and extra year of club
-another literal cost of deferring a year’s worth of income down the road
-teaching a life’s lesson to game the system and cut corners to get ahead. Again most won’t realize it.

Everybody has different goals in life but to me, the “value” just doesn’t outweigh the “costs”. t’s lacrosse. It just makes no sense. Maybe basketball or football but makes zero sense for lacrosse.

Who wants to add to the list of perceived value and costs?

Give it up. You cannot justify this one way or the other. Every parent makes their own decisions. Like the other poster said, control what you can and worry about your own situation but be realistic about the outcome. LI public kids used to walk onto NCAA programs. The landscape has changed with more areas are producing top talent. The undersized LI kid with great skills will be overlooked by the stronger and faster older kids from other regions.

Give what up? You seem to be arguing with yourself. The value and costs are simply a list. Some think the value is better the cost and most see the cost as too much for the perceived value. I am merely making a list and asking people to add to their own value and costs or holding back. But if you are the [Censored] saying all parents are fools because “they don’t see the value in holdbacks”, I’m pointing out they aren’t fools because they see more of a cost associated with it. And I clearly said that “everyone has different values” so I’m not worried the least bit about controlling what other parents do
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Re: Boys 2029-7th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 08:52 PM
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As someone else already said, to be a dominant d1 lacrosse player, you have to hold back.

6 of 11 Notre Dame recruits in the class of 2025 are NOT holdbacks. Their birthdates are on Inside Lacrosse. 6 of the 11 could have played in the World Series with the class of 2025 meaning they were born after 9/1/2006. Of the 5 that wouldn't have qualified for the WS, 2 were born in August '06 so they barely missed the cutoff.

Moral of the story . . . no, you do not have to hold back to be recruited to a top program or be a dominant D1 player. This is a falsehood holdback parents tell themselves and their kids to justify their decision.

#realstudsdontreclass

Here's the list . . .

2025
Iuliano Mar-07
Lally Oct-05
Kelley Aug-06
Diaz-Matos Jan-06
Lynch Feb-07
Gardner Nov-06
Mullahy Oct-06
Iglesias Feb-07
Popham Aug-06
Gryzenia Nov-06
Kenney Jun-06[/quote]

Some of these may take a PG year essentially being stashed for a year making them a holdback. Quite common so I will be curious which of these will actually be in the roster of fall 2025
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Re: Boys 2025-11th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024 Anonymous Yesterday at 08:48 PM
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I forget what century we are in. Are we still making fun of kids and people because of their height? I guess we have to make fun of them because there are no good short players in lacrosse. By that same logic then I guess all lacrosse players are [Censored] because they are shorter than basketball players.

Yes in this century we still make fun of short people. Do you get out or are you a sheltered rich clown?

Not sure what wealth has to do with it but maybe I’m a poor grown up who’s moved on from trying to make myself feel better by making fun of other people’s stature. So yes, the 21st century but I can see you still rocking the high school behaviors. But keep living in the past Biff.
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Re: 2022-2023 Women's DI-III College Lacrosse Season Not_Belles_Mommy Yesterday at 08:21 PM
Only #7 for not my daughter. That’s alright. She’s gonna cook this year.
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Re: Girl's 2027 Grades - Mid Atlantic Region Anonymous Yesterday at 07:48 PM
Just wait till they rank alliance
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