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Re: Boys 2022 Fall 2013/Summer 2014
CageSage #46349 10/29/13 04:33 PM
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????

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Yes if your 12yo son is in 8th grade then he must be a Nov/Dec 2000 baby (or accelerated; count your blessing). I am quite sure you may know a few boys that might be turning 14 or even 15 that are in 8th grade.

14 being the boys who may have started school late Nov/Dec 1999 birthdates but the vast majority are 13 by now. 15 yo are late starts that got left back


An 11yo in 4th grade is definitely questionable especially on an elite team. 4th grade should typically be U9. I understand this is not typical hence the discussion. If there is an 11yo on a 4th grade team he should be playing in 5th grade. I dont care his size. maybe he should not be playing elite 4th but B 5th.

A 4th grader with a late 3rd qtr 2003 birthdate would just be turning 10. Now if that late start child got held back he would be 11 and a lot bigger and mature (if that is such a thing in 4/5th ). and should not play 4th but 5th!



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is it possible that there are 11 year olds in 4th grade?


My 12 year old is in 8th.

11 is 4th grade in unexplainable!

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Anonymous #46351 10/29/13 05:35 PM
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????


yes we also know what cheating is? Redshirting is for college not youth sports.

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IT HAPPENS... Its been recommended by travel coaches..'put your son in Catholic school for a year, then bring him back to the public school" ask around..

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Anonymous #46370 10/30/13 08:58 AM
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????


yes we also know what cheating is? Redshirting is for college not youth sports.


You are redshirting 4th graders??

That may be single stupidest thing ever said on here!!

And that says alot!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????


yes we also know what cheating is? Redshirting is for college not youth sports.



Your naive about the sport if you're making this comment. In our area, LI, the school cutoff date is Dec 1. So you're saying if a parent decides to have their child repeat a grade that was born sept, oct, nov that that's cheating? They will STILL Be younger than others outside of LI. For example MD, where their cutoff date is Sept 1? And not to mention that many parents in Md often opt to hold their kids back or start late. Add on top of that a redshirt or pg year and you have the Pannell Syndrome - an almost 25 yr old senior. Did he cheat? Well all I know is that he won the tewarrton. So I would say do the best for your child an stop worrying about things you have no control over and do something with those that you do!!5yxyeR

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"Manhasset 32 looked legit, although they have 3 or 4 Older boys that are U10 not 4th graders."

The team is comprised of 4th grade boys, ONLY.

Completely NOT true. Not sure why you would even say this?

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to the person who says, "Correct in 4th grade YES, but should be in 5th. Born later in year.
Stop it"

YOU STOP IT! Ask the tourney officials for the roster with birthdates. Loser

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Anonymous #46376 10/30/13 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????


yes we also know what cheating is? Redshirting is for college not youth sports.



Your naive about the sport if you're making this comment. In our area, LI, the school cutoff date is Dec 1. So you're saying if a parent decides to have their child repeat a grade that was born sept, oct, nov that that's cheating? They will STILL Be younger than others outside of LI. For example MD, where their cutoff date is Sept 1? And not to mention that many parents in Md often opt to hold their kids back or start late. Add on top of that a redshirt or pg year and you have the Pannell Syndrome - an almost 25 yr old senior. Did he cheat? Well all I know is that he won the tewarrton. So I would say do the best for your child an stop worrying about things you have no control over and do something with those that you do!!5yxyeR


First off, isn't Pannell only 23 not 25. A late birthday (Dec), did a PG year and got Medically redshirted (technically left school however you want to call it since ivy's donot allow 5h yr seniors).

Second, Pannell is not the norm. He PG'd after HS, he did not get held back in 3rd grade. Then got hurt in College . (all after HS where physical maturity "should" be a level field)

Now, I fully understand about the late birthdates (whether sept-dec) as my prior post outlines that. I also understand what people are doing. But, mysteriously players with birthdates Jan - Aug who have started kindergarten with the "age-mates" have been held back (not for academic reasons). As the case is to be rumored on a few highly touted 2020 teams.

And now you suggest those players who are already old for their grade get held back again. What are we in texas or florida and the players have a shot at the NFL. What is the end game here.

So to me... IMO... if a late 3rd qtr birthday who is already old for their grade then gets held back a year they should not play grade ball, of course there are issues that may make this an unusual situation like illness or injury, but in usual healthy child (who I assume is since he is playing summer travel lax) it should not be allowed.

I can see (don't agree with) the agreement of a hold back in 8th, but we are taking pre middle schoolers being held back to gain an athletic advantage? AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS IS WRONG


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Don't any of you people know what red-shirting is??????


yes we also know what cheating is? Redshirting is for college not youth sports.



Your naive about the sport if you're making this comment. In our area, LI, the school cutoff date is Dec 1. So you're saying if a parent decides to have their child repeat a grade that was born sept, oct, nov that that's cheating? They will STILL Be younger than others outside of LI. For example MD, where their cutoff date is Sept 1? And not to mention that many parents in Md often opt to hold their kids back or start late. Add on top of that a redshirt or pg year and you have the Pannell Syndrome - an almost 25 yr old senior. Did he cheat? Well all I know is that he won the tewarrton. So I would say do the best for your child an stop worrying about things you have no control over and do something with those that you do!!5yxyeR


Still talking stupid. You are saying you would leave your child back in school to gain an athletic advantage?? No mention of social or academic impact?
That is insane!!

The answer to all the nonsense is do verify ages like soccer does until HS.

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Anonymous #46396 10/30/13 02:52 PM
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There are Parents belive there is NO harm in doing this, even if their son plays the piano...An Educated risk,and one that is economocally affordable to many on LI.

IT IS HAPPENING, Believe it or not. Talk to MC

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Mike1magee #46397 10/30/13 02:53 PM
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Hit a sore spot?

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Don't hide behind your computer, "anonymously" spreading lies about a 4th grade lax team. If you would like to debate something, show some proof.

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i think a major sore spot was hit - some towns do it on purpose

just sayin.....

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are Parents belive there is NO harm in doing this, even if their son plays the piano...An Educated risk,and one that is economocally affordable to many on LI.

IT IS HAPPENING, Believe it or not. Talk to MC



Clearly no talking to you! I Understand people do it. People rob banks, jump from bridges , run with scissors, swim 20 minutes after eating......

Doesn't make it a good idea or teach kids what's really important in life.

Youth lacrosse! Get a grip!

Only 2 percent of these kids will get any athletic money from college. Most smart college lax players are getting more academic money than athletic.

That's a fact!

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