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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN.
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. I just posted this, and I am here to say I may stand corrected. Maybe a kid in 2028 grad class can indeed play in 2029 grad class based on new age rules. It’s still not super clear, but it does say in high school, they will play with their graduation year team. So that’s a little vague— it says “in high school, NLF will continue to group high school players by graduation year.” Not sure how that would work if he’s playing on a team with sophomores while being a Junior. Seems ridiculous for sure.
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I?
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I? While we’re on the HoCo subject. Can 8th graders play in the 7th grade division this spring if they’re born after May 31, 2010? That could get interesting. So much for keeping classmates together, per the USL statement.
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I? While we’re on the HoCo subject. Can 8th graders play in the 7th grade division this spring if they’re born after May 31, 2010? That could get interesting. So much for keeping classmates together, per the USL statement. It's right on the front page of ghclacrosse.com - "No player born before June 1, 2010 may participate in 2029".
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I? While we’re on the HoCo subject. Can 8th graders play in the 7th grade division this spring if they’re born after May 31, 2010? That could get interesting. So much for keeping classmates together, per the USL statement. That "keeping teams together" statement served one purpose and expressed a totally different verifiable fact. The purpose of that phrase was to smooth the fires of club lax parents worried about losing their "star" even though the "star" is 2 years older, and will inevitably have to play with 2028s if not 2027s for awhile. It's a "this is fine" statement. "please don't freak out." The verifiable fact behind that phrase is that with few elite exceptions in MA, NY, Philly, MD, and DC, the 300 or so 2029 club teams playing across the country will for the most part "stay together" because the average club team at HoCo AA and below has maybe 2 holdbacks. By default, the other 23-27 kids on the roster can "stay together."
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I? While we’re on the HoCo subject. Can 8th graders play in the 7th grade division this spring if they’re born after May 31, 2010? That could get interesting. So much for keeping classmates together, per the USL statement. Age and Grade in HOCO: 2029 Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2010 may participate in 2029 Grade Requirement: Players in 7th grade MUST participate in the 2029 grade designation or above (2028) pending age requirement *Players born before June 1, 2010 in 7th grade must participate in the 2028 grade designation.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team
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Circuit is age based and does not follow graduation year. The Circuit verifies every kid through a third-party service that requires a birth certificate. Guessing NLF and US Lacrosse will not age verify this way but rather utilize US Lacrosse membership information. Too expensive for NLF to use a third-party service and nor do they want to dig too deep with their founding and affiliate members. US Lacrosse membership information is not verified. Get your kid a number, put whatever birthdate you want in the registration link and pay your fee.
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I recall uploading a birth certificate for age verification for my son on US Lacrosse. Maybe I'm misremembering.
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3rd party? It was guy with a excel spreadsheet from NXT that read names and kids raised hands. Didn't even read all the names on the list. 3rd party was to print the list of names I guess.
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I saw True C scrimmaging LTLC last weekend while at Red Hots training. Some good talent over there. Based on what I saw at the Circuit this weekend, are you sure that wasn’t True National’s 2028 team reclassed and now playing with/as the 29 Red Hots National Team? No, full of Hawks. Parent of a 29 Red Hots National Team. We only have 2 Hawks players and they were only there on SAT. Multiple True kids from across the country. All June 1 Birthdays or later. Big boys nonetheless. Um, that was a rhetorical question by the PP. But to correct him they aren’t reclasses. The kid who scored all the goals is a ‘28. Kid who scored all the goals was born June 24, 2010. That’s a 2028 on age kid US Lacrosse/NLF rules dictate anyone born after 5/31/2010 can play as a 2029. The Circuit adopted similar rules with 2 exemptions per team allowing birthdates 1/1/2010 or later. No, no, no. That’s not correct. It’s for kids who are IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND HAVE BEEN RECLASSED. My kid is in 8th grade, but born July 2010. He cannot play in a 2029 event, even though his age would allow him to do so. He would need to reclass and be in the 7th grade, which is the 2029 class. If the kid has not reclassed, and is still in the 2028 grade year— he’s cheating if playing 2029. You have made this overly complicated, and you're not correct...whether you believe their intent was to focus on reclassed kids is correct or not. The Circuit's age rules are quite simple: For 2029s - Born after 5/31/10 with two exemptions born 1/1/10 or later For 2028s - Born after 5/31/09 with three exemptions born 1/1/09 or later including last year's somehow approved double-holdback players grandfathered in (fun fact, there), but no "new" double holdbacks. That's it. There's no more to it, at least in writing. The USL-NLF system is switching directly to soccer-style age groups. In fact the new NLF rules say "graduation years are only for team names" starting this year. So, congrats on your son's playing up a year, all these years, but it's clear that he doesn't have to anymore. For better and for worse, age/grad year are now less complicated and for your son, he now has more options. You’re wrong. 2028 kids cannot play in 2029’division based on age. The age exception applies to kids playing 2029 who are old enough to be 2028, but reclassed somewhere along the way. My son is on age for 2028, he’s just on the younger end having been a July 2010 kid. If he wants to reclass after this year, yes, he could play 2029 because he IS ONE. This change did NOT make youth lacrosse an age-based sport. It simply allows the slightly older ones who have already reclassed, to keep playing 2029. If they are considerably older and have reclassed, they have to go play with their peers in age at 2028. Repeat— youth lacrosse is STILL grade based. You play in the grade you are in, or you can play up. But you cannot, under any instance, PLAY DOWN. Sure dude, point me to where it says that in the Circuit or NLF rules. Maybe right after the part of the NLF rules where it says that going forward, teams have a graduation year solely for "team name purposes". Or the part of the NLF-USL agreement discussing "U14 teams" and "U12 teams." Show me the facts that have led you to this conclusion you feel so incredibly strong about. I have a weird feeling that it's something that you heard from a club coach who allegedly heard it from Ricky Dubois at the Hoco league who allegedly talked to US Lacrosse about it at some point (with a reminder here that the HoCo league, while awesome, does not comprise "all club lacrosse" or rules for such). How close am I? While we’re on the HoCo subject. Can 8th graders play in the 7th grade division this spring if they’re born after May 31, 2010? That could get interesting. So much for keeping classmates together, per the USL statement. Age and Grade in HOCO: 2029 Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2010 may participate in 2029 Grade Requirement: Players in 7th grade MUST participate in the 2029 grade designation or above (2028) pending age requirement *Players born before June 1, 2010 in 7th grade must participate in the 2028 grade designation. Based on this, a July, 2010 birth date means that you can: 1. Play with 2027s (no Hoco teams this year obviously) 2. Play with 2028s 3. Play with 2029s 4. Cannot play with 2030s If your son's birthday falls within the eligible range, there's no documentation anywhere for any tournament or league (that I've seen) that says that the player must be tied to the club roster for their graduation date....that's the entire holdback legacy problem that the Lax Overlords are trying to solve. They want the players to be LESS tied to their grade level and MORE tied to age appropriate tiers, creating fewer high performance "outliers."
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I recall uploading a birth certificate for age verification for my son on US Lacrosse. Maybe I'm misremembering. I'm not sure you're wrong or right, but when we re-upped my son's USL membership in August, we did not have to upload any age verification. Last year for the Circuit we *did* have to upload age verification documents. Which was kind of silly in retrospect, because that specific Circuit event (Naples) ended up with completely broken and unrecorded rosters, multiple players playing down and playing for multiple teams, etc. One MD kid wasn't on a roster, but his brother was, so the unrostered kid randomly brought his stick/helmet/gloves on the trip..... and the unrostered kid ended up playing the whole event, as well as in the championship weekend, for the championship team. Also file under: "Sure, tryouts are the legitimate way that teams build their roster."
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period.
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I'm told USL/NLF events will require every rostered player to be age verified via USL. Coaches will have a list on their phone that should verify their roster. All coaches will have the option between quarters to inquire about an opposing players age should they choose and the opposing coach will have to age verify for that player. Failure to do so will be an automatic DQ of the team from the event.
The USL age verification process requires an ID or birth certificate.
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I recall uploading a birth certificate for age verification for my son on US Lacrosse. Maybe I'm misremembering. That's correct. You have to submit a birth certificate.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. So much hand wringing and pearl clutching. In just the last 90 days, youth lax has moved from: "we love double holdbacks...it's how we show that we develop players! Sure he has a mustache, thats normal in 5th grade." to: "state education birth years plus 90 days." Almost all the 2028 reclasses left their 2029 teams after tryouts this summer. Youth lax will look a bit different and more fair, going forward. Is it perfect? Maybe? Yes? No? but take a deep breath already.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example.
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NOTABLE ITEMS IN USA LACROSSE'S PLAYER SEGMENTATION POLICY:
An emphasis on grouping players by single-age years (12-month span), with exceptions of up to 24 months for age groupings as needed. (Note: NLF has chosen to use 15-month age groupings for its clubs and events.)
A September 1 birthdate is the start of new age groupings in an attempt to align with the majority of school systems nationwide to allow players to play with people in their own grade level when possible.
Firmly defined playing season that begins its 12-month cycle on September 1.
Standardized nomenclature that lists maximum age first (i.e., 12U, not U12).
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. Nobody upset. Simply pointing out that if they want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season (June)— the cutoff would be January 1st. With the middle of that age group (let’s continue to use 12u for this purpose), you would have 50% of the 12 year olds playing together at the height of of the June season (kids born March, April and May and kids born Nume, July and August). You will always have kids who are 364 days older than other kids in their age group. But you’d be closer to the median age at the height of the season if January was the cutoff, and the season is June/July. Not a big deal, not upset. Ice Hockey does it. You play by birth yesr. 14 year olds today are playing in the 2010 division. Just an example.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. Nobody upset. Simply pointing out that if they want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season (June)— the cutoff would be January 1st. With the middle of that age group (let’s continue to use 12u for this purpose), you would have 50% of the 12 year olds playing together at the height of of the June season (kids born March, April and May and kids born Nume, July and August). You will always have kids who are 364 days older than other kids in their age group. But you’d be closer to the median age at the height of the season if January was the cutoff, and the season is June/July. Not a big deal, not upset. Ice Hockey does it. You play by birth yesr. 14 year olds today are playing in the 2010 division. Just an example. Valid point for those who understand the Bell curve concept
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. Nobody upset. Simply pointing out that if they want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season (June)— the cutoff would be January 1st. With the middle of that age group (let’s continue to use 12u for this purpose), you would have 50% of the 12 year olds playing together at the height of of the June season (kids born March, April and May and kids born Nume, July and August). You will always have kids who are 364 days older than other kids in their age group. But you’d be closer to the median age at the height of the season if January was the cutoff, and the season is June/July. Not a big deal, not upset. Ice Hockey does it. You play by birth yesr. 14 year olds today are playing in the 2010 division. Just an example. This sentence does not make sense: "If you want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season...". How close in age kids are to one another never changes. A kid 1 day older than another stays 1 day older - forever. Same with a kid 364 days older than another. The rosters do not change on June 1st. I think you're getting hung up on the "12U" designation which frankly I've never seen used in any tournament or league my son has played in. It's always just "2029".
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. The math major has no clue what they are talking about...they are just trying to goad people into an argument. Some folks just like to stir up comments with nonsense.
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First big play day of the season on Sunday, at the Next Level event. Should have some good games, here's a few to watch:
- 8:30: Hawks v. FCA. How do Hawks fare against a team that came within a goal of beating them in HoCo last spring. FCA added some key pieces and should be much improved.
- 10:30: FCA playing LTRC/Crabs. LTRC/Crabs had a huge roster turn-over - with almost 50% of their roster changing, including losing some very key players. But they also picked up some kids. Last year the teams split with each team beating the other a couple times each. Always a hard-fought game when LTLC plays FCA.
- 11:30: Hawks playing Next Level. These are almost certainly the cream of the 2029 crop in the country - and the top two local teams.
Also cool that the play day includes the most likely group of teams to be in the top division of HoCo this coming season. Only VLC and 91MD not present. Millon doesn't historically challenge his teams pre-season - and his teams clearly have well-documented problems competing at this level (aside from the ones that he has kids on.) And I think VLC lost a bunch of players / may not have a team playing at this level this year?
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. It's a 15 month window, genius. I'm sorry your kid was born in January and is not competitive with his own age group. Get over it. It will all even out when everyone gets through puberty. Also, age verification wasn't about keeping teams together... it was about player safety.
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. It's a 15 month window, genius. I'm sorry your kid was born in January and is not competitive with his own age group. Get over it. It will all even out when everyone gets through puberty. Also, age verification wasn't about keeping teams together... it was about player safety. Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. No... what would make the most sense is Sept 1st... in line with the actual school year cutoff.... but I'm guessing your kid was a January or February birthday and you're still butthurt watching him get embarrassed by similarly aged kids.
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If "safety" were the impetus they would've been better served focusing on the officials properly and forcefully adjudicating the rules.
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I must be an [Censored]. The best athletes I knew growing up had older brothers who beat on them constantly and made them earn everything. I've been focused on having my kid play up in any sport where his ability warrants it. Little did I know I should have been focusing on having him play down so he can best weaker competition.
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Talk to a team 29 parent this week. They picked up some of the players from the non existent kelly post team and they are playing in the elite division. Looking forward to seeing how teams do in the fall tournaments. Looks like the next level tournament has the top Hoco Elite Teams. 91 is not in it.
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Talk to a team 29 parent this week. They picked up some of the players from the non existent kelly post team and they are playing in the elite division. Looking forward to seeing how teams do in the fall tournaments. Looks like the next level tournament has the top Hoco Elite Teams. 91 is not in it. What team?
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. Nobody upset. Simply pointing out that if they want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season (June)— the cutoff would be January 1st. With the middle of that age group (let’s continue to use 12u for this purpose), you would have 50% of the 12 year olds playing together at the height of of the June season (kids born March, April and May and kids born Nume, July and August). You will always have kids who are 364 days older than other kids in their age group. But you’d be closer to the median age at the height of the season if January was the cutoff, and the season is June/July. Not a big deal, not upset. Ice Hockey does it. You play by birth yesr. 14 year olds today are playing in the 2010 division. Just an example. This sentence does not make sense: "If you want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season...". How close in age kids are to one another never changes. A kid 1 day older than another stays 1 day older - forever. Same with a kid 364 days older than another. The rosters do not change on June 1st. I think you're getting hung up on the "12U" designation which frankly I've never seen used in any tournament or league my son has played in. It's always just "2029". Last try… lacrosse season starts June 1 and goes through July 15. The age group 12 U is kids born June 1 through August 31 of the following year. Assuming the dispersion of birthdays is equally scattered throughout that time period— you’re needlessly overweighting the advantage to the kids born in those first 3 months. Now try to follow. If the split was in the middle of that time period— you’d have 25% of the kids 3 months younger, and 25% 3 months older. Done trying to explain mean average or bell curves to lax bros. Carry on.
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This is fool, next topic. See what happens when you try to make sense on here. Predictions for October Inv.
NL 3-0
FCA 2-1
Hawks 2-1
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Lots of 29’s playing down in 2030 too. No reclassing either…just based on summer bdays and being non-contributor on the 29 team Yeah, figure this will happen. Anyone who thinks this age thing will keep teams together is clueless. If you have the age cutoff at June 1, kids will be aging out RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON. They should have used birth year, period. This makes zero sense. It's like the poster has absolutely no clue and just looking to create laughs. Unless a kid's birthday changes date - so for example, he goes from being born on July 10th to the same kid being born on May 15th....there's no way he will "age out in the middle of a season". His birthday is his birthday - and that drives his ability to be rostered on a 2029 team. I’m guessing this previous poster was pointing out that having the age breakpoint in the exact middle of the high season of lacrosse (Summer), teams or divided at the least opportune time. If we’re going by age only, and grade no longer mattters. I dunno, just glad she is becoming meaningful again. This is even more incoherent than the "birth year" post. Didn't think it was possible. Clearly, the terms “median” and “mean” in mathematics mean nothing to you, so I won’t attempt to explain. But having the split between two different age groups right in the middle of the HEIGHT (or middle of bell curve) of the lacrosse season does not make sense, if they actually thought about what they’re trying to accomplish with this change. It would be January 1st. For a 2029 team, the kids will have birthdays between 6/1/2010 to 5/31/2011 (unless a kid is playing up). For games played before 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. For games played after 6/1/2024 all the kids will be on-age 2029s. Please explain to us what exactly will happen on June 1st that has you so upset and provide an example. Nobody upset. Simply pointing out that if they want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season (June)— the cutoff would be January 1st. With the middle of that age group (let’s continue to use 12u for this purpose), you would have 50% of the 12 year olds playing together at the height of of the June season (kids born March, April and May and kids born Nume, July and August). You will always have kids who are 364 days older than other kids in their age group. But you’d be closer to the median age at the height of the season if January was the cutoff, and the season is June/July. Not a big deal, not upset. Ice Hockey does it. You play by birth yesr. 14 year olds today are playing in the 2010 division. Just an example. This sentence does not make sense: "If you want the greatest number of 12 year olds closest in age to one another at the height of the season...". How close in age kids are to one another never changes. A kid 1 day older than another stays 1 day older - forever. Same with a kid 364 days older than another. The rosters do not change on June 1st. I think you're getting hung up on the "12U" designation which frankly I've never seen used in any tournament or league my son has played in. It's always just "2029". Last try… lacrosse season starts June 1 and goes through July 15. The age group 12 U is kids born June 1 through August 31 of the following year. Assuming the dispersion of birthdays is equally scattered throughout that time period— you’re needlessly overweighting the advantage to the kids born in those first 3 months. Now try to follow. If the split was in the middle of that time period— you’d have 25% of the kids 3 months younger, and 25% 3 months older. Done trying to explain mean average or bell curves to lax bros. Carry on. Lacrosse season for new teams is usually Fall through end of July. Although it seems like tryouts are getting earlier and earlier due to competition.
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