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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364133 01/26/22 01:35 PM
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?

Seriously! Doesn’t matter how early the girl is , if the coach(es) is not interested in her. By the time the girls are 24s, the top 20 are prob. known for the most part. The ones who have to worry about 9/1 phone calls! Other than that, girls have time throughout the process to get seen. No need to panic in the Fall of 10th grade. Plenty of opportunities are out there for all the lacrosse girls. Relax, think clearly and be realistic.

I would agree. However, from what I have seen with two that have gone through the process there are many unrealistic parents.

IMHO, the most important thing you can do right now is help your daughter try to identify what is important to her with regard to college.

What does she want, what is important to her?

Obviously academics are important as is potential major / field of study etc... look to match academic considerations with other variables such as: geographic location, size of school, public vs private, city vs suburban, affordability etc.... try to come up with as big of a list as possible and than prioritize/rank the schools. After you have that, put a plan in place to market herself to those schools. Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, don't be afraid to reach out to the very top programs/schools the worst thing that can happen is that they do not return any interest. Do not be an annoying pest but definitely have your daughter reach out to the coaches at the schools on her list and introduce herself (don't be afraid to get creative). Once September 1 rolls around be ready to add schools to the list if needed. Remember things can and do change quickly as players start to commit. Every time a player commits, a bunch of coaches have to move down their list. Utilize your club director/coach, your HS coach, current and former players if you know any from the schools that your daughter is interested in. Ask these people to reach out to see if the coaches will take a close look and see if there is any interest in your daughter. If your daughter receives interest from schools that are not high on her list or not on the list at all still engage with the coach and learn more about the school and the program you never know it just might be a great fit. Make sure your daughter introduces herself to all the coaches on the staff. Do not listen to people who say the grad assistant has no say. If the grad assistant or current or former player thinks highly of a prospect the Head coach will take a look and that is all that you can ask for.

There is always a lot of chatter on here regarding the Top Programs as well as the Top Academic Schools some of which are one and the same but the reality is that there will be a relatively small number of players from Long Island who will have the opportunity to go to a Top 20 Lacrosse School or a Top 20 Academic School. Probably 5 or 6 will go to the Ivy's and 15 - 20 to the top lacrosse programs, so be sure have some backup schools on the list.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364155 01/26/22 03:59 PM
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364171 01/26/22 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

This same person posting conspiracy theories over and over needs to relax. No one is selling anything to anyone. This site is just a bunch of information from different people and most of it is opinions, but your narrative is very obviously trying to attack a few people. Whatever the reason for your attack, it’s not useful except for petting your ego and making you feel better. Grow up and get off the internet if you’re just going to complain about everyone else. No one here wants to read it anymore. If you have a problem with someone, go speak to them like a real man and stop hiding behind a keyboard.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #364182 01/26/22 08:39 PM
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There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364190 01/26/22 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

Yeah schools are looking at 2023z plus 2022 still dropping.
The high academic don’t make a decision til very late.so many of them are on 2022. Many D3 only want 2023 and older at this point at their showcases. It’s good to know and pass this stuff along for this group and next. We were told that even if they let you come as a 2024, that they are focused on the older girls. It’s crunch time for them.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364191 01/26/22 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

This same person posting conspiracy theories over and over needs to relax. No one is selling anything to anyone. This site is just a bunch of information from different people and most of it is opinions, but your narrative is very obviously trying to attack a few people. Whatever the reason for your attack, it’s not useful except for petting your ego and making you feel better. Grow up and get off the internet if you’re just going to complain about everyone else. No one here wants to read it anymore. If you have a problem with someone, go speak to them like a real man and stop hiding behind a keyboard.

Sounds like a Conspiracy Fact
There was some BS being talked about that wasn’t accurate. We all saw it and thanks for reminding us.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364192 01/26/22 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

What does that mean?

Seriously! Doesn’t matter how early the girl is , if the coach(es) is not interested in her. By the time the girls are 24s, the top 20 are prob. known for the most part. The ones who have to worry about 9/1 phone calls! Other than that, girls have time throughout the process to get seen. No need to panic in the Fall of 10th grade. Plenty of opportunities are out there for all the lacrosse girls. Relax, think clearly and be realistic.

I would agree. However, from what I have seen with two that have gone through the process there are many unrealistic parents.

IMHO, the most important thing you can do right now is help your daughter try to identify what is important to her with regard to college.

What does she want, what is important to her?

Obviously academics are important as is potential major / field of study etc... look to match academic considerations with other variables such as: geographic location, size of school, public vs private, city vs suburban, affordability etc.... try to come up with as big of a list as possible and than prioritize/rank the schools. After you have that, put a plan in place to market herself to those schools. Nothing wrong with reaching for the stars, don't be afraid to reach out to the very top programs/schools the worst thing that can happen is that they do not return any interest. Do not be an annoying pest but definitely have your daughter reach out to the coaches at the schools on her list and introduce herself (don't be afraid to get creative). Once September 1 rolls around be ready to add schools to the list if needed. Remember things can and do change quickly as players start to commit. Every time a player commits, a bunch of coaches have to move down their list. Utilize your club director/coach, your HS coach, current and former players if you know any from the schools that your daughter is interested in. Ask these people to reach out to see if the coaches will take a close look and see if there is any interest in your daughter. If your daughter receives interest from schools that are not high on her list or not on the list at all still engage with the coach and learn more about the school and the program you never know it just might be a great fit. Make sure your daughter introduces herself to all the coaches on the staff. Do not listen to people who say the grad assistant has no say. If the grad assistant or current or former player thinks highly of a prospect the Head coach will take a look and that is all that you can ask for.

There is always a lot of chatter on here regarding the Top Programs as well as the Top Academic Schools some of which are one and the same but the reality is that there will be a relatively small number of players from Long Island who will have the opportunity to go to a Top 20 Lacrosse School or a Top 20 Academic School. Probably 5 or 6 will go to the Ivy's and 15 - 20 to the top lacrosse programs, so be sure have some backup schools on the list.

What year is your daughter that this is your advice ? Does she play in college?

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364210 01/27/22 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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It’s amazing to see so many 2023s committing every day
And plenty of 2022s also. We wish them all luck and it continues to be a learning experience. What an exciting time for them an their families.
Makes me glad that I listened to those who told us to relax in the fall because 2024 year had plenty of time and it was still very early.
Also, makes me aware of those that tried to promote the hype and fear to make a buck. You are Greedy!!!

24s have a bunch of time but early bird gets the worm

Early bird may get the worm but clearly not Armageddon if you didn’t get an offer in the the fall.

Take note that it’s almost feb and Schools are not done with 2022 and 2023. It’s actually very busy so take note of the person who gives you the fake news in order to fill their pockets and don’t trust them moving forward.

There is one coach/club that was trying to get people to bounce with some fake news that they were doing it better and that all their low level peeps were getting looks.
Yeah well ….so much for that!!!

Thank god nobody took the bait

Yeah schools are looking at 2023z plus 2022 still dropping.
The high academic don’t make a decision til very late.so many of them are on 2022. Many D3 only want 2023 and older at this point at their showcases. It’s good to know and pass this stuff along for this group and next. We were told that even if they let you come as a 2024, that they are focused on the older girls. It’s crunch time for them.

The statement: "The high academic don’t make a decision til very late" is simply not accurate. Many of the schools listed below are "high academic" and they do not wait to make their decisions.

​​1. Boston College
2. North Carolina
3. Syracuse
4. Northwestern
5. Stony Brook
6. Maryland
7. Notre Dame
8. Duke
9. Loyola
10. Florida
11. Virginia
12. James Madison
13. Princeton
14. Stanford
15. Denver
16. Rutgers
17. Drexel
18. Jacksonville
19. UConn
20. Penn

Also considered (alphabetical order): Johns Hopkins, Louisville, Michigan, Penn State, Richmond, Temple

Throw in: Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Cal, Georgetown, USC etc..

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #364219 01/27/22 09:55 AM
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All great schools, but the only ones that are truly elite (top 10, under 10% acceptance), and have competitive lax are:

First tier:

Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
Hopkins
Princeton

*All of these schools come hard after their preferred recruits on Sept. 1

Second tier:

ND

Then you have a bunch of great lax and academic schools in the 20-30 ranked range like:

UNC
Virginia
Georgetown
Michigan
Florida
USC
BC

Then you have great lax, good academic (50+) ranked

Maryland
Syracuse
Penn State
JMU
Rutgers

And you also have those super elite schools that have weak lacrosse teams:

Vanderbilt
Cal
Columbia
Harvard
Yale

Girls target programs for many different reasons. Some are focused on winning a championship, others want to go to the best possible school they can with a particular major in mind. Others may want their parents or siblings Alma mater. Some are just happy someone wants them.

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Anonymous #364224 01/27/22 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
All great schools, but the only ones that are truly elite (top 10, under 10% acceptance), and have competitive lax are:

First tier:

Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
Hopkins
Princeton

*All of these schools come hard after their preferred recruits on Sept. 1

Second tier:

ND

Then you have a bunch of great lax and academic schools in the 20-30 ranked range like:

UNC
Virginia
Georgetown
Michigan
Florida
USC
BC

Then you have great lax, good academic (50+) ranked

Maryland
Syracuse
Penn State
JMU
Rutgers

And you also have those super elite schools that have weak lacrosse teams:

Vanderbilt
Cal
Columbia
Harvard
Yale

Girls target programs for many different reasons. Some are focused on winning a championship, others want to go to the best possible school they can with a particular major in mind. Others may want their parents or siblings Alma mater. Some are just happy someone wants them.

I wouldn't use acceptance rate as a barometer.

Tremendous opportunity out there for young women who want to play at the next level but the reality is that most will not be going to these schools. In the 2023 class there are 20 - 25 girls from Long Island committed to the schools listed above, with maybe 4-5 going to the "truly elite" academic schools.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #364227 01/27/22 10:35 AM
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There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.

Why would you post this?
If this isn’t an admission or guilt , I don’t know what is.

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There is no club or coach on here promoting showcases. There is no club associated with any of the events being spoken about most JO and Best in class. I posted my opinion on JO and First class which is that JO seems more political and more of an expense than best in class. Best in class seems like better talent. My daughter didn’t apply to either so it doesn’t really matter to us, just sharing an opinion.

Why would you post this?
If this isn’t an admission or guilt , I don’t know what is.

For the posters who’s daughter never played in these events or even applied to play in them , what are you forming your opinion on , on these two events? People come on here to try and get info. on events from people who may have some knowledge about them. They are expensive and people just want to get a feel from others, if they think they are worth doing? And, everyone’s opinion on worth is different. So?

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This is my second one to go through the process. I see the word money grab a lot, but I a lot of the top players are doing them so there is a reason. The issue is determining which ones to attend if invited, so the more information the events can share about coaches attending is key I agree. The number of events and the costs continues to go up and don't expect that to stop in the future. Expect any camp or showcase to be $600+, less for a camp if you are commuting. Prospect days that used range from $100-$175 are now $175-$295. It stinks but I'm just happy this is my last to go through this. Good luck to everyone, it's stressful but try to enjoy this time with your daughter before she moves on to college!

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Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.

Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies

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Just catching up on some of these posts. Legacy, Top guns, YJ have always been top 3 on Long Island for year. For the 24 class, top guns isn’t nearly as great as it used to be and liberty and jesters may be pushing into that top guns third spot. 91 and empire have always been bottom of the barrel. It isn’t for a lack of trying, but on the girls side 91 isn’t nearly as competitive. They have built such a reputation for not being a girls program that it will be hard for any older teams to break that pattern. Maybe we will see a shift for the younger years now that they’re trying to put more emphasis on the girls.



Recently we add in some other random teams that just popped up over the last few years- the recon combo teams, Ohana (do they go to tournaments?), and any I’m missing.

It isn’t speaking poorly of other clubs it just seems to be how it has been for years. It also doesn’t mean each team not top of the pack doesn’t have top players. There is a player on empire that could play on other teams carrying the pack and also kids on teams like YJ Kildare capable of playing on Weiner. Just because you aren’t a top team doesn’t mean you can’t have a few elite kids who wanted to stay with their buddies


What’s the point of this post?

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