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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #350411 09/21/21 09:19 PM
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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

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Anonymous #350416 09/21/21 10:42 PM
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Yes Legacy has commits

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Agree. Plus Junior year is one of the more rigorous academics years for most students and all of these trips without production is both frustrating and deflating. At some point something has to give. I can see why some people wait a year.

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Anonymous #350434 09/22/21 07:41 AM
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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!

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Anonymous #350435 09/22/21 07:48 AM
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Agree. Plus Junior year is one of the more rigorous academics years for most students and all of these trips without production is both frustrating and deflating. At some point something has to give. I can see why some people wait a year.

Who are you agreeing with?

Who waits a year?

What on earth are you talking about?

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #350437 09/22/21 07:55 AM
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What is a good way to tell schools that your still looking? You dont want to close the door yet?

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Anonymous #350443 09/22/21 08:14 AM
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What is a good way to tell schools that your still looking? You dont want to close the door yet?

Be honest.

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Anonymous #350446 09/22/21 08:26 AM
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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!

As the parent of a 22, this post explaining the 15-20 girls on campus for 6-8 spots is an accurate assessment of how most schools work their campus visits. Coaches play the law of averages like the college admission process knowing that not all invited players will commit to their program. The hardest and most frustrating part in the recruiting process for my DD who did eventually commit, was having the coaches court her, invite her to all the zooms (visits weren’t an option) w the coaches and players, and than completely ghost her in the end without giving any feedback why. Even when she asked the coaches directly and wanted true feedback. I just figured the ghosting/no feedback gave her all the info she needed to decide that wasn’t the program she wanted to be a part of. In the beginning they courted her heavily and supposedly watched her for years so very confusing to a kid (& parent).

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Anonymous #350456 09/22/21 09:07 AM
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Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Happy to see some top tier recruits (UA All-Americans) going to Stanford. But for crying out loud please do not bring up a summer tournament as some kind indication of the actual strength of the team or the recruits. It is foolish to do so.

Good luck to Stanford, Congratulations to all of the players and recruits they made a great choice!


Stanford is having their first officials this weekend and next, so we'll see who they get!

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #350469 09/22/21 10:39 AM
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This may sound harsh but a coaches actions will speak much louder than their words. Coaches do not wait around and waste time, they make offers to the players that they want. If they invite the player on a formal visit but do not offer it is because they have other players that they have ranked higher and they are waiting to see if they can get them.

If the coach goes silent and is not communicating they have moved on (for the time being it is possible that could change).

Reasonable parents understand this, delusional parents will start to conjure up all kinds of reasons and excuses as to why coaches are not making offers.

Remember this, just because coaches are not beating down the door right now doesn't mean that your daughter will not find a great fit. We are very early in what is a pretty long process for most.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #350471 09/22/21 10:52 AM
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12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

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Anonymous #350475 09/22/21 11:03 AM
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12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

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Anonymous #350476 09/22/21 11:05 AM
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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!

Parents, remember that if you are in on meetings, you are being looked at also. A few years back i knew a family who's daughter had visits at some top 30 D1 schools, none of them came through. I don't know for sure but if I had to bet it was the parents. They are nice people but a bit overzealous which could be a turn off to coach.

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Anonymous #350479 09/22/21 11:18 AM
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Agree. Any list or all-star is a garbage shoot in the club world. But, it's easy to track!

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Anonymous #350483 09/22/21 11:27 AM
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12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Lol, a few deserving girls on list others you really have to shake your head. Did some of these girls put themselves on?? They are for sure missing quite a few of the top girls in the grade, and not just from LI! Lol

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