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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/01/21 01:17 PM
Top Guns tryout today. At least two spots open on the Black team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/01/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Guns tryout today.
At least two spots open on the Black team

where are the two going? Jesters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/01/21 05:01 PM
any spots opening up on YJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/01/21 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Guns tryout today.
At least two spots open on the Black team

where are the two going? Jesters

One jesters
Other was playing up has to play her age now draw girl
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/01/21 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Guns tryout today.
At least two spots open on the Black team

where are the two going? Jesters

One jesters
Other was playing up has to play her age now draw girl

The girl whose dad was mad that she wasn't getting enough playing time who started for Jesters in last week's tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 02:19 AM
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 12:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players

You are right. The #1 ranked club team in the age group is a joke.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Guns tryout today.
At least two spots open on the Black team

where are the two going? Jesters

One jesters
Other was playing up has to play her age now draw girl

The girl whose dad was mad that she wasn't getting enough playing time who started for Jesters in last week's tournament?

Yes when they lost to Legacy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players


I heard they did take at least one that I know of.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 01:03 PM
Lost to Jesters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players

You are right. The #1 ranked club team in the age group is a joke.
Lost to the jesters cause one player beat them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 11:53 AM
A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 01:08 PM
I read this stuff and laugh out loud. Who cares who is #1 and who is #2 or #10?? Are you people wearing their jerseys and/or betting on the games? This isn't professional sports here. The question that should be asked is where are these girls playing in college? Being recruited to? All the other stuff about who won and why should be debated only by the players. The "grown ups" need another hobby.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I read this stuff and laugh out loud. Who cares who is #1 and who is #2 or #10?? Are you people wearing their jerseys and/or betting on the games? This isn't professional sports here. The question that should be asked is where are these girls playing in college? Being recruited to? All the other stuff about who won and why should be debated only by the players. The "grown ups" need another hobby.

September 1st is coming up soon. The club non sense is coming to an end. Exciting to see where these girls end up playing in college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 12:00 PM
Any spots opening up on YJ Thorn?
or is the tryout a formality to stuff more $$$$ in the Queens pocket??
I think they are stacked at middie; not sure on defense and have 2-3 studs on attack. If a stud attackman goes to that tryout do they take her??? or do they keep the F&F bottom of the roster??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 01:26 PM
The Top Guns are the top ranked wanna be dads in the country. Mostly guys who rode the pine in HS. Live through your little girls. Losers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any spots opening up on YJ Thorn?
or is the tryout a formality to stuff more $$$$ in the Queens pocket??
I think they are stacked at middie; not sure on defense and have 2-3 studs on attack. If a stud attackman goes to that tryout do they take her??? or do they keep the F&F bottom of the roster??


Don’t do it! That team likes to showcase a few girls. Your daughter will not play much even if f she deserves too. It’s how they roll.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Top Guns are the top ranked wanna be dads in the country. Mostly guys who rode the pine in HS. Live through your little girls. Losers.

Why so jealous? Who cares what the dads did in HS. TG is the number one team because they have great depth, and play together as a team. It’s not daddy ball. Come Sept. 1 you will have further proof of why TG is ranked #1. Until then, settle down and stop worrying so much about lacrosse. It’s August!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any spots opening up on YJ Thorn?
or is the tryout a formality to stuff more $$$$ in the Queens pocket??
I think they are stacked at middie; not sure on defense and have 2-3 studs on attack. If a stud attackman goes to that tryout do they take her??? or do they keep the F&F bottom of the roster??

There is no way Thorn would be taking a new girl and starting her over a current starting attack on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 06:45 PM
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/08/21 03:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

I think also, there are more areas of the country that are getting better at Lacrosse and producing great players. . That’s Taking up some recruiting spots the LI girls would have had in the past.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/09/21 10:40 PM
Word is that Grizzlies are out of the Elite 8, and Legacy took their place. Jesters can’t be too happy about that!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 12:05 AM
Jesters are still in a start up phase (even though they beat the Top Guns). Ha, ha, ha!!! Legacy is a more established club on various levels. Legacy is better than top guns at the 24 level and probably 25. Top guns are in trouble. Greedy top guns losing players to better coached clubs. Just wait until you get a low ball offer from Hofstra for the privilege of playing fir Shannon in dangerous Hempstead. Smart tg parents. Lol.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 12:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are still in a start up phase (even though they beat the Top Guns). Ha, ha, ha!!! Legacy is a more established club on various levels. Legacy is better than top guns at the 24 level and probably 25. Top guns are in trouble. Greedy top guns losing players to better coached clubs. Just wait until you get a low ball offer from Hofstra for the privilege of playing fir Shannon in dangerous Hempstead. Smart tg parents. Lol.

Wow, someone seems awful jealous of the number one ranked team who will have the top recruiting class. Sounds like a salty Jesters dad who will ride that upset you got as long as anyone will listen. TG ‘24 will blow you out next year, but keep taking your Pequa trash. Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 12:55 AM
Legacy is in way over their head. Playing in this tournament will have many girls crossed off the recruiting list. Be careful what you wish for!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are still in a start up phase (even though they beat the Top Guns). Ha, ha, ha!!! Legacy is a more established club on various levels. Legacy is better than top guns at the 24 level and probably 25. Top guns are in trouble. Greedy top guns losing players to better coached clubs. Just wait until you get a low ball offer from Hofstra for the privilege of playing fir Shannon in dangerous Hempstead. Smart tg parents. Lol.

Wow, someone seems awful jealous of the number one ranked team who will have the top recruiting class. Sounds like a salty Jesters dad who will ride that upset you got as long as anyone will listen. TG ‘24 will blow you out next year, but keep taking your Pequa trash. Lol

I truly hope this is not an adult that is around and or voaching our kids! Embarrassing and pathetic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 04:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Jesters are still in a start up phase (even though they beat the Top Guns). Ha, ha, ha!!! Legacy is a more established club on various levels. Legacy is better than top guns at the 24 level and probably 25. Top guns are in trouble. Greedy top guns losing players to better coached clubs. Just wait until you get a low ball offer from Hofstra for the privilege of playing fir Shannon in dangerous Hempstead. Smart tg parents. Lol.

Wow, someone seems awful jealous of the number one ranked team who will have the top recruiting class. Sounds like a salty Jesters dad who will ride that upset you got as long as anyone will listen. TG ‘24 will blow you out next year, but keep taking your Pequa trash. Lol[/quote

Top guns are a great team, those girls can flat out play!
The dads are just a bunch of Long Island TRASH! Grow up already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 09:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy is in way over their head. Playing in this tournament will have many girls crossed off the recruiting list. Be careful what you wish for!

Legacy will more than hold their own in the tournament. Legacy is very underrated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 12:15 AM
Yj will reign supreme once again come recruiting time. Jesters will surprise people. Wait and see. The TG get junk offers to Hofstra on September 1. Go play on their crappy turf in their high crime area. Look on the bright side…you can keep paying andrew while in college to train with him. Losers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yj will reign supreme once again come recruiting time. Jesters will surprise people. Wait and see. The TG get junk offers to Hofstra on September 1. Go play on their crappy turf in their high crime area. Look on the bright side…you can keep paying andrew while in college to train with him. Losers.

Lol 😂. Let’s not count our chickens before they hatch. You clearly are delusional! Let’s hear from you again late September when we can do some actual fact checking. TG will have the most impressive recruits, 6-7 then YJ 4-5, then Legacy and Jesters who will both have 2-3 top recruits. Top recruits being top 20 schools and or top 10 lacrosse programs. Prove me wrong!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 02:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yj will reign supreme once again come recruiting time. Jesters will surprise people. Wait and see. The TG get junk offers to Hofstra on September 1. Go play on their crappy turf in their high crime area. Look on the bright side…you can keep paying andrew while in college to train with him. Losers.


Aren’t they #1 in the entire country? That “junk” yard has produced some serious players. I’m not even a TG parent but find your post beyond classless. Sounds like you’re pretty junky yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 10:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yj will reign supreme once again come recruiting time. Jesters will surprise people. Wait and see. The TG get junk offers to Hofstra on September 1. Go play on their crappy turf in their high crime area. Look on the bright side…you can keep paying andrew while in college to train with him. Losers.

Very intelligent post. Looks like you really thought this through. The YJ will do fine with recruiting, I’m sure TG being ranked the top team in the country will also be fine. Jesters former TG girl will be a top commit not sure where the rest will go and Legacy already has a player committed to Navy. September is coming soon we’ll see if college coaches have a different opinion of players then an anonymous poster like yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 04:31 PM
So the question I have. Are the TG girls getting recruited because the program is so good and they helped these girls reach their potential or would these girls been highly recruited regardless of team affiliation. My guess is 99% of them would have been highly recruited regardless of team. Your thoughts ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the question I have. Are the TG girls getting recruited because the program is so good and they helped these girls reach their potential or would these girls been highly recruited regardless of team affiliation. My guess is 99% of them would have been highly recruited regardless of team. Your thoughts ?

That goes for every program. College coaches recruit who the believe will help there program. They do not recruit a player because of the club the player plays for.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the question I have. Are the TG girls getting recruited because the program is so good and they helped these girls reach their potential or would these girls been highly recruited regardless of team affiliation. My guess is 99% of them would have been highly recruited regardless of team. Your thoughts ?

I think that TG had great luck with this group of girls because of team culture. Many of the top girls on TG left other clubs to become a part of that program and it worked out pretty well for them. There is not really one superstar, but rather a group of girls that possess individual strengths that together help the team. They do not play selfish ball. That’s the difference. Many would stand out on other teams as well, but TG brings out the best in them. Although some aren’t fans of AS coaching, as he doesn’t play girls equally. It serves as motivation to work harder for playing time. Also helps that he has no kids on the team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Top Guns are the top ranked wanna be dads in the country. Mostly guys who rode the pine in HS. Live through your little girls. Losers.

Sounds like a Jesters dad who is sour that he has to watch the livestream of YJ, TG and Legacy play in The Elite 8
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 06:37 PM
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The Top Guns are the top ranked wanna be dads in the country. Mostly guys who rode the pine in HS. Live through your little girls. Losers.

Sounds like a Jesters dad who is sour that he has to watch the livestream of YJ, TG and Legacy play in The Elite 8[/quot

Schedule out yet for Elite 8??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!

Lol, yes we will see. Sounds like you’re quite mad that TG is ranked higher, than YJ, and for that matter every other ‘23 team. There is a reason for that and nobody cares what you think. This summer was about playing for the coaches, and when YJ played TG it was clear who the coaches were watching. Do you remember that game? If not you should go watch it, maybe then you will realize why TG is ranked higher!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then

they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!

Lol, yes we will see. Sounds like you’re quite mad that TG is ranked higher, than YJ, and for that matter every other ‘23 team. There is a reason for that and nobody cares what you think. This summer was about playing for the coaches, and when YJ played TG it was clear who the coaches were watching. Do you remember that game? If not you should go watch it, maybe then you will realize why TG is ranked higher!

Email all the coaches on sept 2nd that didn’t call your daughter and say but we were ranked #1, i don’t get it.
they recruit players not. kids!! sorry your kid peaked in 5th grade. she was very good then, should have stayed with you PAL coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 09:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then

they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!

Lol, yes we will see. Sounds like you’re quite mad that TG is ranked higher, than YJ, and for that matter every other ‘23 team. There is a reason for that and nobody cares what you think. This summer was about playing for the coaches, and when YJ played TG it was clear who the coaches were watching. Do you remember that game? If not you should go watch it, maybe then you will realize why TG is ranked higher!

Email all the coaches on sept 2nd that didn’t call your daughter and say but we were ranked #1, i don’t get it.
they recruit players not. kids!! sorry your kid peaked in 5th grade. she was very good then, should have stayed with you PAL coach

Says the dad who hopes his daughter gets recruited because she plays for YJ, yet didn't do anything this summer. It hurt watching the TG vs YJ game didn't it? Unless you are the new coaches daughter, you're daughter is not that good, and you will find that out Sept 1. There is a reason YG is number one, and my daughter will have no shortage of phone calls on Sept. 1. The top girls already know who will be calling them. Guess you were left off that memo. Maybe it's not to late for some training? Let me know and I can see if my daughter has any slots left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!

Honest question do you really care how deep your commit list is as long as your daughter gets into a good school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ always #1 in recruiting. Haters detest Carol. But college coaches always want her players. Read it and weep.

Not this year…talent just not there outside about 3 girls. CR even jokes about. She can’t wait for this group to pass through

hahaaha, you are a clown. they just won the biggest tourney of the summer going thru M&D black for the 5th straight time. Monster Purple who has never beat them and then

they beat Jesters team that took down TG. The fact that some people think TG is the best is comical; why because US club computer rating says.....okay. when is the last time TG won a tourney??
YJ has more than 3 girls//// so forget about the 2 AA and the MC middie, then they still have a couple of great middies that will go big time and 2-3 other attackman, tall lefty who made UA 3x, plus a few very skilled defenders. The Commit list for YJ will be deeper and better than TG... we will see!

Lol, yes we will see. Sounds like you’re quite mad that TG is ranked higher, than YJ, and for that matter every other ‘23 team. There is a reason for that and nobody cares what you think. This summer was about playing for the coaches, and when YJ played TG it was clear who the coaches were watching. Do you remember that game? If not you should go watch it, maybe then you will realize why TG is ranked higher!

Email all the coaches on sept 2nd that didn’t call your daughter and say but we were ranked #1, i don’t get it.
they recruit players not. kids!! sorry your kid peaked in 5th grade. she was very good then, should have stayed with you PAL coach

He wasn’t that good as a pal coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 11:04 PM
Just when there was actually useful information being shared people like this resurface. Awesome.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the question I have. Are the TG girls getting recruited because the program is so good and they helped these girls reach their potential or would these girls been highly recruited regardless of team affiliation. My guess is 99% of them would have been highly recruited regardless of team. Your thoughts ?

I think that TG had great luck with this group of girls because of team culture. Many of the top girls on TG left other clubs to become a part of that program and it worked out pretty well for them. There is not really one superstar, but rather a group of girls that possess individual strengths that together help the team. They do not play selfish ball. That’s the difference. Many would stand out on other teams as well, but TG brings out the best in them. Although some aren’t fans of AS coaching, as he doesn’t play girls equally. It serves as motivation to work harder for playing time. Also helps that he has no kids on the team

No selfish play now that’s funny! Guess u have not watched tg play.
All their teams plays selfish
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/12/21 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.

Same garbage on ALL the teams!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.

Same garbage on ALL the teams!

I hear the work harder argument. That said this is not a
School team. It costs a lot of money and if you’re daughter is not get ample playing time at $4 or $5k a summer it’s fair to move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 01:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.

Same garbage on ALL the teams!

I hear the work harder argument. That said this is not a
School team. It costs a lot of money and if you’re daughter is not get ample playing time at $4 or $5k a summer it’s fair to move on.

Agreed! And said girl now plays for Jesters and is getting the respect she deserves. A previous poster asked why TG didn’t win tournaments. Look at the girls he left in who should have been pulled and you’ll have your answer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 02:00 AM
Agreed. You are the consumer. Not happy….another team will take your daughter and money. Don’t accept that garbage from AS. He is not a good person and not a good coach. The favorites who stay on the field buy their way on. That’s a fact of you know anyone of them. You did the right thing moving on. You never pay someone who upsets your daughter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You are the consumer. Not happy….another team will take your daughter and money. Don’t accept that garbage from AS. He is not a good person and not a good coach. The favorites who stay on the field buy their way on. That’s a fact of you know anyone of them. You did the right thing moving on. You never pay someone who upsets your daughter.


The guy should not be working with kids end of story. Everyone that plays for him knows he’s a loose cannon. He gets along with nobody. But keep telling yourself he’s the greatest n keeping paying him for wall ball.
😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You are the consumer. Not happy….another team will take your daughter and money. Don’t accept that garbage from AS. He is not a good person and not a good coach. The favorites who stay on the field buy their way on. That’s a fact of you know anyone of them. You did the right thing moving on. You never pay someone who upsets your daughter.


The guy should not be working with kids end of story. Everyone that plays for him knows he’s a loose cannon. He gets along with nobody. But keep telling yourself he’s the greatest n keeping paying him for wall ball.
😂

He must be doing something right. He runs the # 1 team in the country. Although I don’t always agree with his tactics. He’s no worse than any of the disaster daddy and mommy coaches who favor their kids. Or coaches like Legacy who rotate girls equally. Overall he has done a great job with my daughter. Shannon Smith has also been a huge help. Despite what others have said about her, she has never “pushed” Hofstra, and went out of her way to talk to coaches about my daughter. My daughter loves when she occasionally coaches the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.

Same garbage on ALL the teams!

I hear the work harder argument. That said this is not a
School team. It costs a lot of money and if you’re daughter is not get ample playing time at $4 or $5k a summer it’s fair to move on.

Agreed! And said girl now plays for Jesters and is getting the respect she deserves. A previous poster asked why TG didn’t win tournaments. Look at the girls he left in who should have been pulled and you’ll have your answer!

By respect do you mean she's now a starter for the Jesters?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You are the consumer. Not happy….another team will take your daughter and money. Don’t accept that garbage from AS. He is not a good person and not a good coach. The favorites who stay on the field buy their way on. That’s a fact of you know anyone of them. You did the right thing moving on. You never pay someone who upsets your daughter.


The guy should not be working with kids end of story. Everyone that plays for him knows he’s a loose cannon. He gets along with nobody. But keep telling yourself he’s the greatest n keeping paying him for wall ball.
😂

He must be doing something right. He runs the # 1 team in the country. Although I don’t always agree with his tactics. He’s no worse than any of the disaster daddy and mommy coaches who favor their kids. Or coaches like Legacy who rotate girls equally. Overall he has done a great job with my daughter. Shannon Smith has also been a huge help. Despite what others have said about her, she has never “pushed” Hofstra, and went out of her way to talk to coaches about my daughter. My daughter loves when she occasionally coaches the team.

Rankings during the Covid year was a joke! What did they base these ranking on? Means nothing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You are the consumer. Not happy….another team will take your daughter and money. Don’t accept that garbage from AS. He is not a good person and not a good coach. The favorites who stay on the field buy their way on. That’s a fact of you know anyone of them. You did the right thing moving on. You never pay someone who upsets your daughter.


The guy should not be working with kids end of story. Everyone that plays for him knows he’s a loose cannon. He gets along with nobody. But keep telling yourself he’s the greatest n keeping paying him for wall ball.
😂

He must be doing something right. He runs the # 1 team in the country. Although I don’t always agree with his tactics. He’s no worse than any of the disaster daddy and mommy coaches who favor their kids. Or coaches like Legacy who rotate girls equally. Overall he has done a great job with my daughter. Shannon Smith has also been a huge help. Despite what others have said about her, she has never “pushed” Hofstra, and went out of her way to talk to coaches about my daughter. My daughter loves when she occasionally coaches the team.

Rankings during the Covid year was a joke! What did they base these ranking on? Means nothing

The rankings were based on a full summer tournament season with no restrictions. Why is it a joke? Is it because your daughters team didn’t do well? Will you be blaming the fact that your daughter gets no calls on Sept. 1 on Covid too? Sounds like this will turn into a joke that you will not be laughing at!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG loses girls every year from that team cause of the culture andrew brings....... they even lost another this year when its a recruiting year and next year the last. Her HS team was in the LIC and in fact won it. He benched her the whole weekend at LFTC with all those college coaches there. Say what you want about YJ, TG, Jesters, but we can all agree that one of the most disliked names in Long Island lacrosse starts with S and ends in H

I think all clubs lose girls for various reasons The girl who left was screwed, I agree with that. She is a very good player, and didn’t get the playing time she deserved in my opinion. AS tends to have his favorites that he will leave on the field even when they’re not doing anything. That said, this was a bad year to quit a team. What does that teach your daughter and show the coaches? My daughter has had these things happen to her both in HS and club and it taught her to be resilient and work harder. Gotta show the coach why you belong on the field! That said, It is sad how some girls get a free pass and others don’t.

Same garbage on ALL the teams!

I hear the work harder argument. That said this is not a
School team. It costs a lot of money and if you’re daughter is not get ample playing time at $4 or $5k a summer it’s fair to move on.

Agreed! And said girl now plays for Jesters and is getting the respect she deserves. A previous poster asked why TG didn’t win tournaments. Look at the girls he left in who should have been pulled and you’ll have your answer!

By respect do you mean she's now a starter for the Jesters?

You people are still talking about the jesters. They are a joke. They won’t be around in next couple years. No way should you have your daughter involved with them long term.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/13/21 06:47 PM
Fake news. Funny how the one's that pose the most threats get mentioned the most.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 04:39 AM
How can anyone say that Jesters is a joke? See that's where you show your a Top Gun parent cause your a jealous baby! THEY BEAT YOU! Deal with it! My daughter is a YJ player and every single year that Jester program gets better and better and that goes for every one of their teams so if i had a younger daughter that's probably where i would put her. Definetly NOT Top Gun THATS for sure!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 06:22 AM
which player is that? Three different players scored in their 6-5 win that sent you home Top Gun parent......... I was watching after we beat M&D again!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 10:28 AM
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can anyone say that Jesters is a joke? See that's where you show your a Top Gun parent cause your a jealous baby! THEY BEAT YOU! Deal with it! My daughter is a YJ player and every single year that Jester program gets better and better and that goes for every one of their teams so if i had a younger daughter that's probably where i would put her. Definetly NOT Top Gun THATS for sure!

Of course you wouldn’t want to play for Top Guns! You never beat them, and your daughter isn’t good enough to make the team. You do realize that the only reason that Jesters won that game was because of the TG girl who recently joined that team. Interesting that your daughter plays fir YJ but if you had a younger daughter she would play for Jesters? Guess you’ve been having a real great relationship with YJ! Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 12:06 PM
Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 12:22 PM
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They only give need based aid. If your adjusted gross is 175K or less you will get good money. Once you get to 100K your kid basically gets a full ride. Hide that money now! What Ivies do is get your kid into a school they would not be likely to get into without lax. Even with a 4.0 and 1500 SAT
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 01:27 PM
TG and YJ have 95% of the Elite talent on LI. Jesters now have 2 (legit ex-TG player and ball hog Daddy daughter), Legacy has excellent Goalie and decent middie/attacker.
YJ has 5 middies, 2 attack, goalie, 3 defenders. TG with goalie and 2-3 at each position.
ALL four LI top clubs, including Jesters, have another 4-8 players who are really Very good. On a National scale will be top notch at the teams they play on. Add a couple others and you have 50 LI recruits. 23 top level and about 27 really Very good level LI recruits. Very STONG ISLAND !!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG and YJ have 95% of the Elite talent on LI. Jesters now have 2 (legit ex-TG player and ball hog Daddy daughter), Legacy has excellent Goalie and decent middie/attacker.
YJ has 5 middies, 2 attack, goalie, 3 defenders. TG with goalie and 2-3 at each position.
ALL four LI top clubs, including Jesters, have another 4-8 players who are really Very good. On a National scale will be top notch at the teams they play on. Add a couple others and you have 50 LI recruits. 23 top level and about 27 really Very good level LI recruits. Very STONG ISLAND !!!


Well said! And many of you who are arguing about whose team beat who, have girls who are friends with each other, some of which will be recruited to the same college. In a couple years all of this will be irrelevant, and we will be laughing about this! Good luck to all the awesome young ladies from LI!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

I have several friends whose kids graduated over the past couple years from college and have started their first jobs in the field of business.

Cornell grad starting salary 103K

Maryland 65K

Virginia 75K

Penn State 76K

Penn 95K

Now, there are many factors that are involved, such as alumni connection, quality of company, location of company (NYC salaries higher) Job responsibilities, etc. And obviously this is a small sample of people I know personally. Bottom line, is that 4 years of college goes fast. Choosing a school that will get you a good paying job with advancement opportunities is so important. Just something to consider. This website gives you a general idea:

https://www.payscale.com/college-sa.../2?orderBy=schoolName&ascending=true
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

Excellent information!!! Thank you! Love when this forum is being used to help each other out! smile Great stuff.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

I agree with much of what you stated. I know many kids that play for an Ivy and are top recruits, including one of my own. A couple things I know. You need at least a 1300 SAT to attend. There may be isolated exceptions, but this is the minimum number they’re looking for at Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard. Not sure about the others. You can not generally negotiate the aid. You can try to squeeze out a little extra by submitting a hardship letter, but aid is strictly based on salary/assets/other dependent kids. If you gross more than 200k you are not likely to get very much. The calculator can give you a general idea of what you’ll get, but for us it was off quite a bit from what we actually got. These are schools that cost 80k to attend. Even if you get 50%, 40k is a big number to come up with. That said, lots of great opportunities arise with an Ivy League degree.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

I have several friends whose kids graduated over the past couple years from college and have started their first jobs in the field of business.

Cornell grad starting salary 103K

Maryland 65K

Virginia 75K

Penn State 76K

Penn 95K

Now, there are many factors that are involved, such as alumni connection, quality of company, location of company (NYC salaries higher) Job responsibilities, etc. And obviously this is a small sample of people I know personally. Bottom line, is that 4 years of college goes fast. Choosing a school that will get you a good paying job with advancement opportunities is so important. Just something to consider. This website gives you a general idea:

https://www.payscale.com/college-sa.../2?orderBy=schoolName&ascending=true

A lot of the schools listed below have Varsity Women's Lacrosse....

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....


Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

A friends daughter graduated from Columbia 2 years ago she was a good player. His cost , with the financial package they received was in the mid 40’s. Family income was 150,000. There is a great deal of money available at the Ivy’s , if they’re interested it would be smart to at least listen to what they have to offer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG and YJ have 95% of the Elite talent on LI. Jesters now have 2 (legit ex-TG player and ball hog Daddy daughter), Legacy has excellent Goalie and decent middie/attacker.
YJ has 5 middies, 2 attack, goalie, 3 defenders. TG with goalie and 2-3 at each position.
ALL four LI top clubs, including Jesters, have another 4-8 players who are really Very good. On a National scale will be top notch at the teams they play on. Add a couple others and you have 50 LI recruits. 23 top level and about 27 really Very good level LI recruits. Very STONG ISLAND !!!

Sounds reasonable and about right. Just look at history. 20-25 LI players go to top tier programs each year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

We will see how many "afterthoughts" get recruited and play in college. Then you will look like the fool you (anonymously) are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

A friends daughter graduated from Columbia 2 years ago she was a good player. His cost , with the financial package they received was in the mid 40’s. Family income was 150,000. There is a great deal of money available at the Ivy’s , if they’re interested it would be smart to at least listen to what they have to offer.

That’s great if your family income comes in at 150k or less. Otherwise your paying out your you know what! Who can live on LI for that and afford to play lacrosse unless you’re off the books??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

I agree with much of what you stated. I know many kids that play for an Ivy and are top recruits, including one of my own. A couple things I know. You need at least a 1300 SAT to attend. There may be isolated exceptions, but this is the minimum number they’re looking for at Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard. Not sure about the others. You can not generally negotiate the aid. You can try to squeeze out a little extra by submitting a hardship letter, but aid is strictly based on salary/assets/other dependent kids. If you gross more than 200k you are not likely to get very much. The calculator can give you a general idea of what you’ll get, but for us it was off quite a bit from what we actually got. These are schools that cost 80k to attend. Even if you get 50%, 40k is a big number to come up with. That said, lots of great opportunities arise with an Ivy League degree.

Some things to keep in mind when being recruited by "Ivy's"....

Do not paint with a broad brush, each Ivy is different... and so is each recruit.

Coaches treat each recruit differently.

Need based Aid is different for every school.

Admissions is different for every school and every player.

Some of the information in the post above is not accurate. 1300 SAT requirement is not accurate (it may have been what the persons daughter was required to score) but it is not a set standard.

Unless things have changed recently, some Ivy's (Brown for certain) would negotiate Financial Aid with top recruits if that recruit could prove that they were being offered a spot and more Financial Aid from another Ivy. (they need to do it in order to be competitive ).

Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)

Punch your personal numbers in to each schools Financial Aid Calculator (I'm my experience the calculator at my oldest school was pretty close).

The Bottom Line is .... You will have to go through the process in order to find the right fit for your daughter (and financially for you).

Do not shy away from any school that is willing to offer your daughter a spot before you know "all of the facts" as they pertain to your specific situation. Some people will tell you the coach didn't offer my daughter a spot because she was not tall enough, some will tell you it was because she didn't score high enough on her SAT/ACT, others will say they didn't recruit her because they already took a player from her team/school, others will blame the club director etc...

Go through the process and do not be afraid to have your daughter Reach both athletically and academically .... let the coach tell you everything directly.

If your daughter has the grades to consider an Ivy, she is going to be just fine. Many schools will give a lot of academic money to get the high end students.

Good Luck to all, try to make this crazy process fun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/14/21 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

Excellent information!!! Thank you! Love when this forum is being used to help each other out! smile Great stuff.

Ivy's are great but so are many Colleges and Universities.... from someone who has been through the recruiting process multiple times Boy's and Girls as a parent and coach. Do your best to find the "best fit". Take everything into consideration, and remember it's "tough to put a price on happiness".

Does your daughter want to be in a City?

Does she want a Big school with big time athletics?

Does she want to be in the south, the midwest, the mountain states, the west coast etc...?

Does she think she knows what she would like to do upon graduation?

Does she want a private school?

Does she want a big state school?

What is the culture on the team?

What is the culture / social life at the university?

Much to consider for a 17 year old girl.

Very few players will be able to "choose" their dream school, most will have to base their decision on what schools offer a spot, what schools the parents can afford etc...

Try to take the stress off your daughter during this process and make sure that your daughter understands that whatever opportunities arise and whatever decision she makes "it is the right decision" based on available options but it does not mean that it is the last decision. Get excited about whatever schools are willing to talk to your daughter and find the positive (if none of the schools she would like to go to express interest, tell here to make the best of the situation and explain that it is easier to transfer into many schools than it is to get recruited out of HS). As you all know, the world can be a tough place, if things do not go as planned, teach your daughter how to respond, adjust the sails and set a new course to reach her destination / goal. In the old days, players (boys anyway) used to go to Nassau Community College (or some other JUCO) if they could not go to the school of their choice, they than transferred to places like Cornell, Virginia, Maryland etc...
JUCO may not be an option but there will be opportunities

It gets crazy and stressful, do your best to find the good and make it positive. Remind your daughter that players transfer out of schools like Duke, Penn, Maryland, Penn State etc... Make the best of the situation but remember no decision has to be final.

If your daughter gets to choose her dream school congratulations, if she doesn't make the best of the situation.

Just trying to be helpful.... I have one that bounced around but is now at the dream school. It can work out even if it does not seem like it when they are Juniors in HS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

I agree with much of what you stated. I know many kids that play for an Ivy and are top recruits, including one of my own. A couple things I know. You need at least a 1300 SAT to attend. There may be isolated exceptions, but this is the minimum number they’re looking for at Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard. Not sure about the others. You can not generally negotiate the aid. You can try to squeeze out a little extra by submitting a hardship letter, but aid is strictly based on salary/assets/other dependent kids. If you gross more than 200k you are not likely to get very much. The calculator can give you a general idea of what you’ll get, but for us it was off quite a bit from what we actually got. These are schools that cost 80k to attend. Even if you get 50%, 40k is a big number to come up with. That said, lots of great opportunities arise with an Ivy League degree.

Some things to keep in mind when being recruited by "Ivy's"....

Do not paint with a broad brush, each Ivy is different... and so is each recruit.

Coaches treat each recruit differently.

Need based Aid is different for every school.

Admissions is different for every school and every player.

Some of the information in the post above is not accurate. 1300 SAT requirement is not accurate (it may have been what the persons daughter was required to score) but it is not a set standard.

Unless things have changed recently, some Ivy's (Brown for certain) would negotiate Financial Aid with top recruits if that recruit could prove that they were being offered a spot and more Financial Aid from another Ivy. (they need to do it in order to be competitive ).

Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)

Punch your personal numbers in to each schools Financial Aid Calculator (I'm my experience the calculator at my oldest school was pretty close).

The Bottom Line is .... You will have to go through the process in order to find the right fit for your daughter (and financially for you).

Do not shy away from any school that is willing to offer your daughter a spot before you know "all of the facts" as they pertain to your specific situation. Some people will tell you the coach didn't offer my daughter a spot because she was not tall enough, some will tell you it was because she didn't score high enough on her SAT/ACT, others will say they didn't recruit her because they already took a player from her team/school, others will blame the club director etc...

Go through the process and do not be afraid to have your daughter Reach both athletically and academically .... let the coach tell you everything directly.

If your daughter has the grades to consider an Ivy, she is going to be just fine. Many schools will give a lot of academic money to get the high end students.

Good Luck to all, try to make this crazy process fun.

Any kid that can't score over a 1200 on an SAT has no business at a top ten school, no matter how good they are at lacrosse....just saying!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 03:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

I agree with much of what you stated. I know many kids that play for an Ivy and are top recruits, including one of my own. A couple things I know. You need at least a 1300 SAT to attend. There may be isolated exceptions, but this is the minimum number they’re looking for at Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard. Not sure about the others. You can not generally negotiate the aid. You can try to squeeze out a little extra by submitting a hardship letter, but aid is strictly based on salary/assets/other dependent kids. If you gross more than 200k you are not likely to get very much. The calculator can give you a general idea of what you’ll get, but for us it was off quite a bit from what we actually got. These are schools that cost 80k to attend. Even if you get 50%, 40k is a big number to come up with. That said, lots of great opportunities arise with an Ivy League degree.

Some things to keep in mind when being recruited by "Ivy's"....

Do not paint with a broad brush, each Ivy is different... and so is each recruit.

Coaches treat each recruit differently.

Need based Aid is different for every school.

Admissions is different for every school and every player.

Some of the information in the post above is not accurate. 1300 SAT requirement is not accurate (it may have been what the persons daughter was required to score) but it is not a set standard.

Unless things have changed recently, some Ivy's (Brown for certain) would negotiate Financial Aid with top recruits if that recruit could prove that they were being offered a spot and more Financial Aid from another Ivy. (they need to do it in order to be competitive ).

Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)

Punch your personal numbers in to each schools Financial Aid Calculator (I'm my experience the calculator at my oldest school was pretty close).

The Bottom Line is .... You will have to go through the process in order to find the right fit for your daughter (and financially for you).

Do not shy away from any school that is willing to offer your daughter a spot before you know "all of the facts" as they pertain to your specific situation. Some people will tell you the coach didn't offer my daughter a spot because she was not tall enough, some will tell you it was because she didn't score high enough on her SAT/ACT, others will say they didn't recruit her because they already took a player from her team/school, others will blame the club director etc...

Go through the process and do not be afraid to have your daughter Reach both athletically and academically .... let the coach tell you everything directly.

If your daughter has the grades to consider an Ivy, she is going to be just fine. Many schools will give a lot of academic money to get the high end students.

Good Luck to all, try to make this crazy process fun.

Any kid that can't score over a 1200 on an SAT has no business at a top ten school, no matter how good they are at lacrosse....just saying!

It’s the schools business who they offer admission. So I guess if the school is willing to accept the kid she has business at that school.
Just saying!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 01:44 PM
***“Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)”***
——————————————————————————————————-———-—————

That’s a lot of aid (for those with multiple kids in college). It looks like even with a decent income ivy’s give significant need based aid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 01:53 PM
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
***“Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)”***
——————————————————————————————————-———-—————

That’s a lot of aid (for those with multiple kids in college). It looks like even with a decent income ivy’s give significant need based aid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
***“Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)”***
——————————————————————————————————-———-—————

That’s a lot of aid (for those with multiple kids in college). It looks like even with a decent income ivy’s give significant need based aid.

Looks like I’ll be adopting a couple kids!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
***“Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)”***
——————————————————————————————————-———-—————

That’s a lot of aid (for those with multiple kids in college). It looks like even with a decent income ivy’s give significant need based aid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
***“Princeton is said to have the most generous financial aid. I just punched in $270K income in the Princeton aid calculator with $200,000 in investments, $100,000 in cash savings, living in NY, own home, Family of 5 with 3 kids in college:

Calculator estimated $51,910.... with 3 kids in college. $42,010 with 2 kids in college. $14,010 with 1 kid in college. (it pays to have multiple kids in college)”***
——————————————————————————————————-———-—————

That’s a lot of aid (for those with multiple kids in college). It looks like even with a decent income ivy’s give significant need based aid.

Looks like I’ll be adopting a couple kids!

😃
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can’t wait to be happy for her teammates/players in local clubs. These kids have spent a lot of time and commitments to sport. It’s nice to see the hard work payoff. The schools aren’t clowns- they pick the right kids at the right time.
It you are confident of her abilities she will land where she needs to be.

Now having said that, there is a local girl who is such a Big10 fan girl that I will detest to see what happens to
Her. She is on a great team(top 10 in country) but isn’t a starter and when in doesn’t see much action. She’s an attacker, so she shares with 4 others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 06:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can’t wait to be happy for her teammates/players in local clubs. These kids have spent a lot of time and commitments to sport. It’s nice to see the hard work payoff. The schools aren’t clowns- they pick the right kids at the right time.
It you are confident of her abilities she will land where she needs to be.

Now having said that, there is a local girl who is such a Big10 fan girl that I will detest to see what happens to
Her. She is on a great team(top 10 in country) but isn’t a starter and when in doesn’t see much action. She’s an attacker, so she shares with 4 others.

Have you been drinking? Seriously, the post incoherent gibberish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can't wait to rub the @sshats noses in it that I have been forced to share a sideline with for 10 years while I've just sat there quietly, trying to watch my kids play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can't wait to rub the @sshats noses in it that I have been forced to share a sideline with for 10 years while I've just sat there quietly, trying to watch my kids play.

Forced to share a sideline with?? Geesh, you sound like the @sshat
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/17/21 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can't wait to rub the @sshats noses in it that I have been forced to share a sideline with for 10 years while I've just sat there quietly, trying to watch my kids play.

Lol, you sound like part of the problem. Be happy for the girls, they have had to deal with all the crazy parents for years! Soon they will get away, and most likely encounter even crazier parents!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 12:40 AM
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?

Maybe because they beat them twice
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 05:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?

Grizzlies dropped out and Legacy is a better program than Jesters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 10:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?

They should not be ranked higher Legacy beat them when they played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?

think a case of the rankings being a joke again. they just played each other and leg won 8 to 4.
go to the rankings and you get to each teams record and schedule.......any one can tell they are not in the right order
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Legacy playing in the Elite 8 when Jesters are ranked higher?


Inside Lacrosse states strength of schedule and quality wins are factored in. Steps and NXT which are both ranked higher than Legacy are not in the Elite 8 either.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 02:43 PM
Legacy has been ranked in the top 10 the past few years. Go back and take a look. Jesters haven’t sniffed the top ten until recently and leg has beaten them both times they played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 04:37 PM
Elite 8 - unfortunately at least one top team had to pull out of the tournament because of fall sports conflicts. So stop turning yourself in knots about who is there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/19/21 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the parents who have the top recruits, if this is your first….. be prepared for the jealousy and bitterness when your daughter commits quickly to a great school/program. The delusional will not be happy…. Sorry to say, I have witnessed it all before.

Good luck 🍀 to all.

I can't wait to rub the @sshats noses in it that I have been forced to share a sideline with for 10 years while I've just sat there quietly, trying to watch my kids play.

Forced to share a sideline with?? Geesh, you sound like the @sshat
No she not an “@aahat”. She’s listened to your blubbering on and on long enough… And I totally feel her pain.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/20/21 02:33 PM
Elite 8 is a cool concept but tough to continue lax all through the summer and then right before school starts, when traditionally this is the break period. Not only that, but the colleges aren't really evaluating 23's for the Sept 1 calls still, are they?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/20/21 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elite 8 is a cool concept but tough to continue lax all through the summer and then right before school starts, when traditionally this is the break period. Not only that, but the colleges aren't really evaluating 23's for the Sept 1 calls still, are they?

No its doubtful coaches are watching. Lists are made already. Girls will pass on this tournament due to school and varsity sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/20/21 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/20/21 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/21/21 12:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.

Lol. Playing time? True AS never gave her a break she played every minute of every game. She’s a good kid. She wanted to go play for her high school coach the coach of the Jesters. The other girl left mid season when she didn’t play in the 20 minute playoff games at LFTC vs YJ and the Grizzlies.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/21/21 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.

Lol. Playing time? True AS never gave her a break she played every minute of every game. She’s a good kid. She wanted to go play for her high school coach the coach of the Jesters. The other girl left mid season when she didn’t play in the 20 minute playoff games at LFTC vs YJ and the Grizzlies.

Her two older sisters are coaches for jesters too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/21/21 05:13 PM
My kid has a superstar on her team too. What’s wrong with that? When you have every D1 school at your club game it’s good for everyone. I expect she’ll commit either the first week of September or by October but I think other girls on the team will get offers too but they make not go week 1. The superstar has her eye in one school, whereas the girls supporting her (who also have some nice accolades to their names, and some upside) may be casting a bit wider of a net.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/21/21 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid has a superstar on her team too. What’s wrong with that? When you have every D1 school at your club game it’s good for everyone. I expect she’ll commit either the first week of September or by October but I think other girls on the team will get offers too but they make not go week 1. The superstar has her eye in one school, whereas the girls supporting her (who also have some nice accolades to their names, and some upside) may be casting a bit wider of a net.

Nothing wrong with having a stud player however if she dominates touches the rest of the team becomes role players. If she commits early then they will have trouble drawing coaches to their fall games and that hurts the rest of the team for recruiting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/21/21 10:21 PM
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 11:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

A confusing list between tier 1 and 2. Is it based on academics/lacrosse? BC doesn’t stack up academically to some of the schools in tier 2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

A confusing list between tier 1 and 2. Is it based on academics/lacrosse? BC doesn’t stack up academically to some of the schools in tier 2.

True about BC, but they're the best Lax school in the country right now, and look to be for a while. They are also on par academically with UNC. Notre Dame should be first tier too. I agree with MD, PSU and Florida as second tier because of the academics. Cuse should be second tier as well. And Virginia and Michigan could be higher if they could improve their lax a bit. Same for Harvard, Brown and Hopkins. Stony Brook could be a second or maybe third tier. Wonder how girls will form their top ten. If your daughter has good grades, and is a strong player, what would be her top 10 in order if money was not a factor?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

A confusing list between tier 1 and 2. Is it based on academics/lacrosse? BC doesn’t stack up academically to some of the schools in tier 2.

True about BC, but they're the best Lax school in the country right now, and look to be for a while. They are also on par academically with UNC. Notre Dame should be first tier too. I agree with MD, PSU and Florida as second tier because of the academics. Cuse should be second tier as well. And Virginia and Michigan could be higher if they could improve their lax a bit. Same for Harvard, Brown and Hopkins. Stony Brook could be a second or maybe third tier. Wonder how girls will form their top ten. If your daughter has good grades, and is a strong player, what would be her top 10 in order if money was not a factor?

National rankings of Universities
#9 Hopkins
#24 UVA
#28 UNC
#30 Florida
#37 BC

BC is tops in lax but academically not as strong as a couple of the other schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 04:04 PM
I have done this with two kids. All else being equal, pursue the best school academically that your child receives interest from. Start with the Ivies , Stanford, Hopkins, G Town, Duke… and work down. Yes the Ivies are expensive and give out aid with an eye dropper but the job opportunities the kids get are ridiculous compared to every other school. If you can get 1/2 tuition off for 4 years at UVA, UNC, Michigan… then I can see going there vs full pay at an Ivy. The other thing you have to consider is honestly, is your child going to play? BC, UNC, Maryland are all fine schools but they roll with an army and get the best players year after year. Being on the team is a 40 hr a week job and riding the bench stinks. If you are in a position to choose, pick the best school academically where your child has a realistic opportunity to see the field and contribute.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 08:32 PM
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 09:48 PM
Not sure who is putting Georgetown or UVA in the same academic category with the upper Ivies and Stanford/Northwestern/Duke/Hopkins - they aren't there on any metric. They're with Michigan/USC/Berkeley - great schools and certainly some nice lacrosse programs there though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 10:06 PM
How can we see who commits where in September
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/22/21 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can we see who commits where in September

The clubs post it on the web sites and they will post it on Instagram
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can we see who commits where in September

The clubs post it on the web sites and they will post it on Instagram

Or you can check out @BackOfTheCage on Twitter , @BackOfTheCage on Facebook and @BackOfTheCage on Instagram as they post new college commitments daily and they also have feature the newest commits on the websites home page and the most recent 200 commitments under the 'Commitment Center' tab under the specific grad year. Here's the link for the 2023's - . 2023 College Commitments (some already have committed as Navy, Army, Air Force, etc, allow players to commit early)

Hope this helps!
Originally Posted by Laxers412
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can we see who commits where in September

The clubs post it on the web sites and they will post it on Instagram

Or you can check out @BackOfTheCage on Twitter , @BackOfTheCage on Facebook and @BackOfTheCage on Instagram as they post new college commitments daily and they also have feature the newest commits on the websites home page and the most recent 200 commitments under the 'Commitment Center' tab under the specific grad year. Here's the link for the 2023's - . 2023 College Commitments (some already have committed as Navy, Army, Air Force, etc, allow players to commit early)

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the advice!

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players allowed would get and I've gone to one College Bound Laxers (CB Laxers) event before and I personally loved it compared to 2 other showcases we tried this summer b/c they are so small and my daughter had great experience.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts as I fee like any exposure is good exposure, especially when coaches are going to be calling kids soon, leaving less scholarships available.. Thank you!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by LaxMomma
Originally Posted by Laxers412
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can we see who commits where in September

The clubs post it on the web sites and they will post it on Instagram

Or you can check out @BackOfTheCage on Twitter , @BackOfTheCage on Facebook and @BackOfTheCage on Instagram as they post new college commitments daily and they also have feature the newest commits on the websites home page and the most recent 200 commitments under the 'Commitment Center' tab under the specific grad year. Here's the link for the 2023's - . 2023 College Commitments (some already have committed as Navy, Army, Air Force, etc, allow players to commit early)

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the advice!

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players allowed would get and I've gone to one College Bound Laxers (CB Laxers) event before and I personally loved it compared to 2 other showcases we tried this summer b/c they are so small and my daughter had great experience.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts as I fee like any exposure is good exposure, especially when coaches are going to be calling kids soon, leaving less scholarships available.. Thank you!

I think it looks like a good option especially since the coaches get to see the kids up close. My dd has had quite a bit of attention from coaches she saw at those small type clinics with multiple coaches—- in fact, those are the schools I’m thinking may call on Sept 1. If they don’t call, then probably have to regroup and do more small events like this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 02:42 AM
Originally Posted by LaxMomma
Originally Posted by Laxers412
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can we see who commits where in September

The clubs post it on the web sites and they will post it on Instagram

Or you can check out @BackOfTheCage on Twitter , @BackOfTheCage on Facebook and @BackOfTheCage on Instagram as they post new college commitments daily and they also have feature the newest commits on the websites home page and the most recent 200 commitments under the 'Commitment Center' tab under the specific grad year. Here's the link for the 2023's - . 2023 College Commitments (some already have committed as Navy, Army, Air Force, etc, allow players to commit early)

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the advice!

Has anyone seen the Labor Day D1scovery Day Showcase Camp? Seems like a good event for only $189 with the top coaching and exposure the 44 players allowed would get and I've gone to one College Bound Laxers (CB Laxers) event before and I personally loved it compared to 2 other showcases we tried this summer b/c they are so small and my daughter had great experience.

It's a soft period but D1's are allowed to be there and it's the only event in September that I can find locally so I am going to register my daughter - just wanted to get others thoughts as I fee like any exposure is good exposure, especially when coaches are going to be calling kids soon, leaving less scholarships available.. Thank you!

Compared to the $650 event with Igloo, this is a STEAL lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 08:12 PM
$189 for 3 hours of lacrosse is not a good deal
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 04:43 AM
Legacy beat who twice? lol....... Jesters played them with half their team missing and replaced with players from there B team. There were players wearing the same jersey number. Jesters are 10 goals better then legacy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 04:59 AM
and you know this how? Jesters Black team beat YJ before they had that TG player and were ranked in Top 15 in the country. TG player just made them even better. Does this stuff keep you up at night Top Gun parent? Jesters and YJ played in Championship of the biggest tournament of the summer. Jesters have come along way so just accept the fact that they are under your skin for a reason. Every age group is as good or better then every Top Gun team from 23 down! There 26's and 28's are light years ahead of TG and as we all saw at Mid Atlantic 23's have passed them too
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy beat who twice? lol....... Jesters played them with half their team missing and replaced with players from there B team. There were players wearing the same jersey number. Jesters are 10 goals better then legacy.

Didn't Jesters have the one girl who is their whole team playing? That's all I need to know! #overrated
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and you know this how? Jesters Black team beat YJ before they had that TG player and were ranked in Top 15 in the country. TG player just made them even better. Does this stuff keep you up at night Top Gun parent? Jesters and YJ played in Championship of the biggest tournament of the summer. Jesters have come along way so just accept the fact that they are under your skin for a reason. Every age group is as good or better then every Top Gun team from 23 down! There 26's and 28's are light years ahead of TG and as we all saw at Mid Atlantic 23's have passed them too

The Jesters are still hanging their hat on beating YJ in a scrimmage. When the game counted YJ beat them at Mid Atlantic. Like it or not the former TG girl is the face of the Jesters team the rest of the team consist of role players. Lets see the commit list I'm sure YJ will have the most and that's why you play club lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 01:23 PM
[quote=Anonymous]and you know this how? Jesters Black team beat YJ before they had that TG player and were ranked in Top 15 in the country. TG player just made them even better. Does this stuff keep you up at night Top Gun parent? Jesters and YJ played in Championship of the biggest tournament of the summer. Jesters have come along way so just accept the fact that they are under your skin for a reason. Every age group is as good or better then every Top Gun team from 23 down! There 26's and 28's are light years ahead of TG and as we all saw at Mid Atlantic 23's have passed them too

Why is the Mid Atlantic the biggest tournament of the summer? Lax for the Cure had all the same teams in their tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 01:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.

i think its spot on for some. My daughter does not want to be a career lax girl or coach. nor is she a top 20 school ....but she has some very good options. Its ok for some but she is looking for lax to help her get into a good school with career options. Not ignorant at all. Just reality.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and you know this how? Jesters Black team beat YJ before they had that TG player and were ranked in Top 15 in the country. TG player just made them even better. Does this stuff keep you up at night Top Gun parent? Jesters and YJ played in Championship of the biggest tournament of the summer. Jesters have come along way so just accept the fact that they are under your skin for a reason. Every age group is as good or better then every Top Gun team from 23 down! There 26's and 28's are light years ahead of TG and as we all saw at Mid Atlantic 23's have passed them too

Very impressive for the Jesters they went 1-1 vs YJ and 1-1 vs TG this year. Congrats you earned your Top 15 ranking in the country.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and you know this how? Jesters Black team beat YJ before they had that TG player and were ranked in Top 15 in the country. TG player just made them even better. Does this stuff keep you up at night Top Gun parent? Jesters and YJ played in Championship of the biggest tournament of the summer. Jesters have come along way so just accept the fact that they are under your skin for a reason. Every age group is as good or better then every Top Gun team from 23 down! There 26's and 28's are light years ahead of TG and as we all saw at Mid Atlantic 23's have passed them too

The Jesters are still hanging their hat on beating YJ in a scrimmage. When the game counted YJ beat them at Mid Atlantic. Like it or not the former TG girl is the face of the Jesters team the rest of the team consist of role players. Lets see the commit list I'm sure YJ will have the most and that's why you play club lacrosse.

It's not the amount of commits. It's the quality of the school, and amount of scholarship (for non Ivies). I would suspect that the majority of the girls on YJ, TG, Legacy and Jesters will be committing to D1 schools. Lets see how many wind up at the dream schools listed by the previous poster,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

To each her own, there are a lot of great schools with women's lacrosse programs. While it would be nice to go to the best school it is Best to go to the right school (best fit). Only a small percentage of Long Island girls will have the option of "choosing" their Dream School if that Dream School is a Top Tier Lacrosse School. There will be 20 - 25 girls (from Long Island) who receive offers from the Top 10 - 15 programs.

Top Tier Women's Lacrosse Programs
(teams listed below seem to be Top 20 every year and Top 10 some/most years) (BC, UNC and MD most years on another level)

Boston College
North Carolina
Maryland
Northwestern
Syracuse
Virginia
Princeton
Florida
Penn
Stony Brook

(Teams listed below are Top 20 most years... and have also been Top 10 from time to time, maybe they miss Top 20 every few years but I think they are top tier)

Notre Dame
Duke
James Madison
Penn State
Loyola

(For Top Tier Recruits looking to go to the West Coast)

Stanford
USC

The large majority of Top Tier Recruits will choose one of the schools listed above which are considered by most to be Top Tier Lacrosse Programs.

Michigan has come on strong in recent years and will start picking up more talent in the years to come.

Colorado, Denver and Arizona St provide tremendous opportunity for girls who want to go to school in those areas.

Clemson should be interesting to watch... With the current environment, the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility The Tigers could become competitive quickly. Only time will tell.

There are many more great schools with women's lacrosse programs to choose from but most have not been able to consistently compete with the Top Programs.

Good luck to all... try to make the journey fun and keep the stress to a minimum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.

i think its spot on for some. My daughter does not want to be a career lax girl or coach. nor is she a top 20 school ....but she has some very good options. Its ok for some but she is looking for lax to help her get into a good school with career options. Not ignorant at all. Just reality.

Sorry but it is ignorant to imply that a player will be lost in life if they go to schools like Maryland, Syracuse or Florida. It’s also ignorant to imply that your only career option is lax girl or coach if you choose one of those schools. Just reality.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

To each her own, there are a lot of great schools with women's lacrosse programs. While it would be nice to go to the best school it is Best to go to the right school (best fit). Only a small percentage of Long Island girls will have the option of "choosing" their Dream School if that Dream School is a Top Tier Lacrosse School. There will be 20 - 25 girls (from Long Island) who receive offers from the Top 10 - 15 programs.

Top Tier Women's Lacrosse Programs
(teams listed below seem to be Top 20 every year and Top 10 some/most years) (BC, UNC and MD most years on another level)

Boston College
North Carolina
Maryland
Northwestern
Syracuse
Virginia
Princeton
Florida
Penn
Stony Brook

(Teams listed below are Top 20 most years... and have also been Top 10 from time to time, maybe they miss Top 20 every few years but I think they are top tier)

Notre Dame
Duke
James Madison
Penn State
Loyola

(For Top Tier Recruits looking to go to the West Coast)

Stanford
USC

The large majority of Top Tier Recruits will choose one of the schools listed above which are considered by most to be Top Tier Lacrosse Programs.

Michigan has come on strong in recent years and will start picking up more talent in the years to come.

Colorado, Denver and Arizona St provide tremendous opportunity for girls who want to go to school in those areas.

Clemson should be interesting to watch... With the current environment, the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility The Tigers could become competitive quickly. Only time will tell.

There are many more great schools with women's lacrosse programs to choose from but most have not been able to consistently compete with the Top Programs.

Good luck to all... try to make the journey fun and keep the stress to a minimum.



I get what you're saying, but for many of those schools, you are putting lacrosse ahead of academics. My daughter is a top academic and lacrosse player. She would not even consider Stony Brook, Syracuse, Loyola, Maryland, JM, or PSU
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

To each her own, there are a lot of great schools with women's lacrosse programs. While it would be nice to go to the best school it is Best to go to the right school (best fit). Only a small percentage of Long Island girls will have the option of "choosing" their Dream School if that Dream School is a Top Tier Lacrosse School. There will be 20 - 25 girls (from Long Island) who receive offers from the Top 10 - 15 programs.

Top Tier Women's Lacrosse Programs
(teams listed below seem to be Top 20 every year and Top 10 some/most years) (BC, UNC and MD most years on another level)

Boston College
North Carolina
Maryland
Northwestern
Syracuse
Virginia
Princeton
Florida
Penn
Stony Brook

(Teams listed below are Top 20 most years... and have also been Top 10 from time to time, maybe they miss Top 20 every few years but I think they are top tier)

Notre Dame
Duke
James Madison
Penn State
Loyola

(For Top Tier Recruits looking to go to the West Coast)

Stanford
USC

The large majority of Top Tier Recruits will choose one of the schools listed above which are considered by most to be Top Tier Lacrosse Programs.

Michigan has come on strong in recent years and will start picking up more talent in the years to come.

Colorado, Denver and Arizona St provide tremendous opportunity for girls who want to go to school in those areas.

Clemson should be interesting to watch... With the current environment, the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility The Tigers could become competitive quickly. Only time will tell.

There are many more great schools with women's lacrosse programs to choose from but most have not been able to consistently compete with the Top Programs.

Good luck to all... try to make the journey fun and keep the stress to a minimum.



I get what you're saying, but for many of those schools, you are putting lacrosse ahead of academics. My daughter is a top academic and lacrosse player. She would not even consider Stony Brook, Syracuse, Loyola, Maryland, JM, or PSU

Where did they put lacrosse ahead of academics? The original post was about Dream Schools…. Many of those schools are Dream schools for many HS players. If the player is an excellent student and a top tier lacrosse player she will most likely be able to choose one of the schools listed. The top recruits rarely consider schools outside the top tier lacrosse schools of which about half are top tier academic institutions. BTW, the schools that you listed are excellent schools. I wonder if any schools listed above will consider you daughter?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 03:51 PM
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the top “dream schools”?
I’m thinking (in no particular order)

BC
Princeton
Penn
Yale
Stanford
Duke
Northwestern
UNC

Second tier:

Virginia
Michigan
Penn State
Hopkins
Florida
USC
Maryland
Hopkins
Harvard
Brown

To each her own, there are a lot of great schools with women's lacrosse programs. While it would be nice to go to the best school it is Best to go to the right school (best fit). Only a small percentage of Long Island girls will have the option of "choosing" their Dream School if that Dream School is a Top Tier Lacrosse School. There will be 20 - 25 girls (from Long Island) who receive offers from the Top 10 - 15 programs.

Top Tier Women's Lacrosse Programs
(teams listed below seem to be Top 20 every year and Top 10 some/most years) (BC, UNC and MD most years on another level)

Boston College
North Carolina
Maryland
Northwestern
Syracuse
Virginia
Princeton
Florida
Penn
Stony Brook

(Teams listed below are Top 20 most years... and have also been Top 10 from time to time, maybe they miss Top 20 every few years but I think they are top tier)

Notre Dame
Duke
James Madison
Penn State
Loyola

(For Top Tier Recruits looking to go to the West Coast)

Stanford
USC

The large majority of Top Tier Recruits will choose one of the schools listed above which are considered by most to be Top Tier Lacrosse Programs.

Michigan has come on strong in recent years and will start picking up more talent in the years to come.

Colorado, Denver and Arizona St provide tremendous opportunity for girls who want to go to school in those areas.

Clemson should be interesting to watch... With the current environment, the transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility The Tigers could become competitive quickly. Only time will tell.

There are many more great schools with women's lacrosse programs to choose from but most have not been able to consistently compete with the Top Programs.

Good luck to all... try to make the journey fun and keep the stress to a minimum.



I get what you're saying, but for many of those schools, you are putting lacrosse ahead of academics. My daughter is a top academic and lacrosse player. She would not even consider Stony Brook, Syracuse, Loyola, Maryland, JM, or PSU

Where did they put lacrosse ahead of academics? The original post was about Dream Schools…. Many of those schools are Dream schools for many HS players. If the player is an excellent student and a top tier lacrosse player she will most likely be able to choose one of the schools listed. The top recruits rarely consider schools outside the top tier lacrosse schools of which about half are top tier academic institutions. BTW, the schools that you listed are excellent schools. I wonder if any schools listed above will consider you daughter?

I think if your emphasis is on academics, but still want a decent lax program then Stanford, Duke, ND and Northwestern would be top contenders if you will qualify for need based aid because it can be stacked with athletic money and still have a top 10 school. Otherwise Ivies are the other way to get a top school and for some, an excellent lax program. Most families will have to shell out big bucks for that though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.
There were no official visits for the class of 22 due to COVID and not being on campus. Offers were given over the phone/zoom (at least early on of Sept. 1st).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.

Hey I think it’s a great statement! And thanks for posting. Just look at the AU lacrosse. It looks like a bunch of old retired guys playing. It’s also not that interesting and just a core group of players living out their glory days.
My kid is going to school to learn real life skills and lacrosse will be second if she gets that fortunate. She is a great all-around multi-sport athlete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 05:22 PM
Dream Schools are for kids in Middle School... At this point if kids are considering those schools to play lacrosse, they already have a pretty good idea what is coming on Sept. 1st at 12:00:01am. The clock is about to strike 12 Cinderella.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Is there a time frame from the college coaches initial contact to when they actually make an offer? I'm sure some schools are slower then others when actually making an offer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.

Hey I think it’s a great statement! And thanks for posting. Just look at the AU lacrosse. It looks like a bunch of old retired guys playing. It’s also not that interesting and just a core group of players living out their glory days.
My kid is going to school to learn real life skills and lacrosse will be second if she gets that fortunate. She is a great all-around multi-sport athlete.[/quote]

Agree, the lacrosse career path for a college or pro female lacrosse player is limited at best. Hard to scrape together a living unless you’re on the hs or college coaching path. Your daughter should go for the best possible education and give herself career options. This sport can be an amazing launchpad to great things.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 06:40 PM
SportsRecruits question-
What makes a coach watch a certain game?
I got a hit from a school that wasn’t on our list- they watched a random game that wasn’t even highlighted “visible” on profile.

And then I got another notification of a school that watched another game where D barely got any action. It would be the last game I would recommend watching for my D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SportsRecruits question-
What makes a coach watch a certain game?
I got a hit from a school that wasn’t on our list- they watched a random game that wasn’t even highlighted “visible” on profile.

And then I got another notification of a school that watched another game where D barely got any action. It would be the last game I would recommend watching for my D.

My daughter gets notices whenever coaches watch games her team played in. They were likely watching another player if you're not on their list. We get these notices a lot. Could have been watching your opponents also. She hasn't made any games "visible".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SportsRecruits question-
What makes a coach watch a certain game?
I got a hit from a school that wasn’t on our list- they watched a random game that wasn’t even highlighted “visible” on profile.

And then I got another notification of a school that watched another game where D barely got any action. It would be the last game I would recommend watching for my D.

My daughter gets notices whenever coaches watch games her team played in. They were likely watching another player if you're not on their list. We get these notices a lot. Could have been watching your opponents also. She hasn't made any games "visible".

That would make total sense, but I don’t think that is true.
They have to go under her profile to watch the game for us to get a notice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
SportsRecruits question-
What makes a coach watch a certain game?
I got a hit from a school that wasn’t on our list- they watched a random game that wasn’t even highlighted “visible” on profile.

And then I got another notification of a school that watched another game where D barely got any action. It would be the last game I would recommend watching for my D.

My daughter gets notices whenever coaches watch games her team played in. They were likely watching another player if you're not on their list. We get these notices a lot. Could have been watching your opponents also. She hasn't made any games "visible".

That would make total sense, but I don’t think that is true.
They have to go under her profile to watch the game for us to get a notice.

If a coach goes onto your teams page and watches a game you will get a notice. This happens to my daughter. Read what the message says. It says coach X watched the team’s game. Doesn’t really mean much. I think the coaches are still tweaking their lists this week. My daughter is getting a lot of notifications both individually and for her team videos.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.

Nope, she played almost every minute. So try again. The kid that left this year was a starter and fell down the totem pole due to weak play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.

Nope, she played almost every minute. So try again. The kid that left this year was a starter and fell down the totem pole due to weak play.

LD never came off the field. she didn’t leave cause of playing time. Probably a few factors but AS and the fact he shouldn’t be around young girls coaching them is one. The other probably is that her HS coach went and became a part of Jesters.
Kid this summer left cause of PT, but it was more AS holding a grudge cause she went to HS practice during playoffs instead of TG tourney. she did the right thing and got punished.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Official visits can begin Sept 1st Junior year, and responding to someone prior question- yes, all the parents travel and lodging expenses "may" be picked up. That will depend on the school, their budget for that and how highly recruited your daughter is. I have heard many players get invites for unofficial visits, then if things go well can go back with a paid visit. As per NCAA you may only accept 4 official visits, but can visit all the rest on your own dime and basically accomplish the same thing. From the pre-covid era, most coaches spend sept 1st and the first several days of recruiting making home visits to their top recruits, then get back to campus to start welcoming players to campus visits. Many coaches will make offers over the phone, especially if they feel the player may be out of reach, they take a wild stab at it, trying to land their "Dream Player" (flipped the script right there).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any would be amazing, but if the offers came:

Stanford
Northwestern
Duke
UNC
BC
Princeton
Yale
UVA
Penn
Hopkins

Mostly agree. Just about a perfect list for my reasoning. Except I would put Northwestern maybe just above Yale, cold and crappy Chicago is a tough sell. UNC and BC are decent academically, don’t compare with the rest on this list, but give you a shot at a title. Other popular schools I agree would not be on my list for my daughter, MD, Florida, Syracuse etc…good lacrosse, shot at title, but if your daughter had a shot at any or these on this list, it’s a no brainer, unless she wants to be a college coach out the back, I discourage that thought, the big picture is to get your daughter to set herself up for the rest of her life. I see crazy amounts of really great players, kicked butt, won all kinds of awards, natty champs etc… lost in life and direction when all is said and done. Have a better plan!

Ignorant statement.

Hey I think it’s a great statement! And thanks for posting. Just look at the AU lacrosse. It looks like a bunch of old retired guys playing. It’s also not that interesting and just a core group of players living out their glory days.
My kid is going to school to learn real life skills and lacrosse will be second if she gets that fortunate. She is a great all-around multi-sport athlete.

Agree, the lacrosse career path for a college or pro female lacrosse player is limited at best. Hard to scrape together a living unless you’re on the hs or college coaching path. Your daughter should go for the best possible education and give herself career options. This sport can be an amazing launchpad to great things.[/quote]

It’s ignorant because it implies that kids graduating from schools other than top tier academic schools will only have lacrosse as a career path and or will be lost in life and direction.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

So I have heard many times about this player leaving. Was curious as to why she and her family left? Not looking for snarky bitter answers, there must have been legitimate reasons for this, perhaps something we can all take away from?

From what I heard, she was having problems with AS over playing time. He has a habit of playing his favorites, even when they don’t perform. Another girl left this year for the same reason, and others almost did too. She is a great kid.

Nope, she played almost every minute. So try again. The kid that left this year was a starter and fell down the totem pole due to weak play.

LD never came off the field. she didn’t leave cause of playing time. Probably a few factors but AS and the fact he shouldn’t be around young girls coaching them is one. The other probably is that her HS coach went and became a part of Jesters.
Kid this summer left cause of PT, but it was more AS holding a grudge cause she went to HS practice during playoffs instead of TG tourney. she did the right thing and got punished.

with is wrong with you?? AS runs the #1 team in the country. I know that is hard for you to say. You probably choke every time you hear it. But that is the truth. He is a very caring and committed coach, and the girls love him. Nobody is perfect, and he may have pushed too hard on her, but so be it. LD left, and the team did not miss a beat, in fact they got better. So please stop with your bizzare vendetta. Did your daughter get cut?? Think so! Wish the best for LD, a truly great kid who remains good friends with her former TG teammates. It's trolls like you who are the problem. September 1 is right around the corner, you should be more concerned with that, and why your daughter isn't getting the offers you hoped for than what happened to a girl who decided to play elsewhere. I know my daughter's phone will be ringing off the hook with my daughters first choices. How do I know you ask? Because TG communicates with college coaches and we are already communicating (within NCAA guidelines) with such coaches. Have a good night and try to get a life!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 09:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Official visits can begin Sept 1st Junior year, and responding to someone prior question- yes, all the parents travel and lodging expenses "may" be picked up. That will depend on the school, their budget for that and how highly recruited your daughter is. I have heard many players get invites for unofficial visits, then if things go well can go back with a paid visit. As per NCAA you may only accept 4 official visits, but can visit all the rest on your own dime and basically accomplish the same thing. From the pre-covid era, most coaches spend sept 1st and the first several days of recruiting making home visits to their top recruits, then get back to campus to start welcoming players to campus visits. Many coaches will make offers over the phone, especially if they feel the player may be out of reach, they take a wild stab at it, trying to land their "Dream Player" (flipped the script right there).

5 Official visits are allowed. But if you take one this year and commit, you can not use another to the same school
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Is there a time frame from the college coaches initial contact to when they actually make an offer? I'm sure some schools are slower then others when actually making an offer.

No, no time frame every situation is different. Coaches have their lists prioritized, they know who they want and they will tell them right away. Coaches do not beat around the bush with their top recruits. The reality is that “No Coach” gets all the players that they want. When a coach is willing to talk to your daughter or invite her on a visit but not willing to make an offer it is likely because the coach still thinks that they will get players that they have ranked higher than your daughter. The good news is that things can change rapidly once players start committing. When coaches don’t get the players they want they move down their list.
So, theoretically a player can go from not being offered a spot to being the coaches #1 recruit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Is there a time frame from the college coaches initial contact to when they actually make an offer? I'm sure some schools are slower then others when actually making an offer.

Both got there offers from the school of their choice after midnight on 9/1 but I’m sure other coaches wait with some players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This question is for anyone with prior recruiting experience. How do official visits work? Is that when a school usually make offers or do they make offers first and the official visit is more of a formality? Thanks in advance.


Both of my daughters had their offers given over the phone and actually did their official visits in their Sr year . I may be wrong but believe true official ( where everything can be paid for) visits can only be conducted in the Sr. Year.

Is there a time frame from the college coaches initial contact to when they actually make an offer? I'm sure some schools are slower then others when actually making an offer.

Both got there offers from the school of their choice after midnight on 9/1 but I’m sure other coaches wait with some players[/quote]

When you say offers, do you mean the money offered, or just that they wanted to recruit your daughter. Big difference, unless an Ivy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 05:03 AM
My girls took four official visits. Official visits are when the school pays for everything except the parents airfare which is not allowed to be paid for except for football and basketball parents. The school pays for the girls travel, meals…& the same for the parents. Typically they have them
On a home football weekend.
All my daughters offers were made before the visit but at every official and unofficial which they took as freshman before the rules changed they had meetings with the coaches individually.
Enjoy being wined and dined!!
Official visits can happen after 9/1 of your jr year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 10:54 AM
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My girls took four official visits. Official visits are when the school pays for everything except the parents airfare which is not allowed to be paid for except for football and basketball parents. The school pays for the girls travel, meals…& the same for the parents. Typically they have them
On a home football weekend.
All my daughters offers were made before the visit but at every official and unofficial which they took as freshman before the rules changed they had meetings with the coaches individually.
Enjoy being wined and dined!!
Official visits can happen after 9/1 of your jr year

Flights can be paid for. It's up to the school
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 05:57 PM
Many kids on TG2023 played in HS playoffs and didn’t get punished for choosing HS over travel. That’s not why her playing time was limited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 06:31 PM
I cannot wait to go through this process with my son in a revenue sport. The rules for football, etc and the money thrown at these guys is just tiresome to hear about when you are trying to figure out what to do with your very talented daughter in the sport of lacrosse.

Right now, I'm just holding the weekend of the 19th because it seems like every coach is doing their prospect day on that day. We will wait for the Sept 1 litmus test. Our club coach still not getting calls from d1 coaches (we are not with a power program like YJ, and we have not asked our coach to reach out to any programs yet) but lots of communication (one way) with daughter from d1 coaches in responses to her emails -- programs that are a step below the biggies mentioned here but very much the kinds of places where she would love to commit. Fingers crossed!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 07:29 PM
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/27/21 12:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?


There will generally be three tiers. Girls in the first tier will be offered official visits and get offers right away. Once those girls commit they will go after the second tier recruits. Third tier and below will be encouraged to attend the prospect day to possibly moved up to a higher tier. This process can take days or months so be prepared. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/27/21 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?

From what I understand from this forum and our coach’s comments, very tippy top prospects (1-20?) — kind of kids getting calls from BC MD and UNC are going to hear right away with offers. There have already been back door conversations about these players between coaches and clubs. For the rest of the kids, it’s just the start of the conversation and will involve future prospect days and camps because the coach will want to see more of the player in action.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/27/21 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?

From what I understand from this forum and our coach’s comments, very tippy top prospects (1-20?) — kind of kids getting calls from BC MD and UNC are going to hear right away with offers. There have already been back door conversations about these players between coaches and clubs. For the rest of the kids, it’s just the start of the conversation and will involve future prospect days and camps because the coach will want to see more of the player in action.

MD? Strange you put them with the other schools you mentioned. Unless you live in MD, not a top choice. Program has been declining
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/27/21 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?

From what I understand from this forum and our coach’s comments, very tippy top prospects (1-20?) — kind of kids getting calls from BC MD and UNC are going to hear right away with offers. There have already been back door conversations about these players between coaches and clubs. For the rest of the kids, it’s just the start of the conversation and will involve future prospect days and camps because the coach will want to see more of the player in action.

MD? Strange you put them with the other schools you mentioned. Unless you live in MD, not a top choice. Program has been declining

You sound foolish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?

From what I understand from this forum and our coach’s comments, very tippy top prospects (1-20?) — kind of kids getting calls from BC MD and UNC are going to hear right away with offers. There have already been back door conversations about these players between coaches and clubs. For the rest of the kids, it’s just the start of the conversation and will involve future prospect days and camps because the coach will want to see more of the player in action.

MD? Strange you put them with the other schools you mentioned. Unless you live in MD, not a top choice. Program has been declining

The winningest program in college lacrosse history has gone exactly one season without winning a championship ……. Yes you are correct , they are in a decline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it expected that calls that come on or abiut 9/1 will result in girls having to go to more prospect days or camps? Is that the process ?

From what I understand from this forum and our coach’s comments, very tippy top prospects (1-20?) — kind of kids getting calls from BC MD and UNC are going to hear right away with offers. There have already been back door conversations about these players between coaches and clubs. For the rest of the kids, it’s just the start of the conversation and will involve future prospect days and camps because the coach will want to see more of the player in action.

MD? Strange you put them with the other schools you mentioned. Unless you live in MD, not a top choice. Program has been declining

The winningest program in college lacrosse history has gone exactly one season without winning a championship ……. Yes you are correct , they are in a decline.

Laughable to say that it is "strange" to put Maryland with BC and UNC.

As far as girls having to go to more prospect days or camps, IMHO the answer is yes. The Top Programs know who they want and they will make offers right away but we are talking about a small number of players (UA Senior caliber players).

The Top Programs do not cast a very big net, nor do the top recruits. We are talking about 15 to 20 schools fighting for the top 50 or so recruits, each of those schools usually picks up 2 or 3 of those Top recruits. The top programs will not offer a spot to other players if there are still players (who the coach considers elite) still on the board. The majority of those top recruits usually choose one of the top programs.

Coaches have their lists and their priorities i.e. Goalie, Draw Specialist, Lefty, Defender etc... Their lists are not just a bunch of names, they have the players ranked and they try to get the players they have ranked highest on their list. If coaches , especially if it's the head coach is talking with you daughter and is willing to meet with your daughter but is not willing to commit your daughter it is likely because the coach is trying to get players that they have ranked higher. As players commit coaches adjust their lists and sometimes want to see players compete again. It is definitely a process and things constantly change.

For the majority of girls this can be a stressful time, help her stay positive and not get down when others are committing. If she is not a top tier recruit make sure that she makes all of the the coaches at the schools that she is interested in aware of her interest. When you get outside the elite programs (the ones that just about everyone would like to go to) it is very important that the coaches know that your daughter really wants to go to the school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 05:19 AM
I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 01:16 PM
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I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool.

In My, and my daughter's opinion, there are many better options. She would obviously take the call, but it would be nowhere near her first choice. MD is to Maryland residents what SB is to LI girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 05:35 PM
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 06:00 PM
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"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What about Stanford? Hopkins? Both higher than Duke and NW
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool.

In My, and my daughter's opinion, there are many better options. She would obviously take the call, but it would be nowhere near her first choice. MD is to Maryland residents what SB is to LI girls.

Did you just compare Stony Brook University to The University of Maryland? Please get a grip on reality, there is no comparison. As for taking the call from CR, there are maybe 15 girls on The Island that the Maryland coach would consider calling.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 06:43 PM
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"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What about Stanford? Hopkins? Both higher than Duke and NW

I think some people are going to have a wake up call on September 1st. Do you hear yourselves, Do you think that it is easy to get an offer from Stanford, Hopkins, Penn, Princeton, Duke, Northwestern or Notre Dame. Transfer portal and the extra year of eligibility have made it even less likely. These schools bring in on average 8-9 players per year (most of those schools will now be replacing at least 1 incoming freshman with a Transfer), how many do they average each year from Long Island? I hope that your daughters have excellent grades and are considered to be one of the Top players on The Island because I doubt we will see more than 10 players from the Long Island Class of 23 commit to the schools listed above. They are all great schools with excellent lacrosse programs but the reality is that the majority of players will not be receiving offers from Programs / Schools of this caliber. There is a lot of opportunity for the girls, I would not be so quick to turn your nose up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool.

In My, and my daughter's opinion, there are many better options. She would obviously take the call, but it would be nowhere near her first choice. MD is to Maryland residents what SB is to LI girls.

Did you just compare Stony Brook University to The University of Maryland? Please get a grip on reality, there is no comparison. As for taking the call from CR, there are maybe 15 girls on The Island that the Maryland coach would consider calling.

BTW, I was not trying to knock Stony Brook, I just do not believe that there is a lot to compare between the two Universities.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool.

In My, and my daughter's opinion, there are many better options. She would obviously take the call, but it would be nowhere near her first choice. MD is to Maryland residents what SB is to LI girls.

LOL... curious to hear what MD residents think. We are from the south and would probably consider Stony Brook the better academic option for the sciences and health
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.

Not mad at all, just calling your BS out. Maryland is certainly one of the top 2 or 3 lacrosse programs in the country and it is far above average with respect to academics. For some reason you want to bash Maryland, I'm not sure why but I will bet that the Maryland Coaching staff feels the same way about your daughter as you and your daughter feel about their university and their lacrosse program.

You seem pretty sure about all of the offers that will be coming your daughters way, for her sake I hope you are right. However, I have been around a long time and have been through the process multiple times and I have seen many delusional parents have a tough time when those offers from the top programs / universities do not come.

Will your daughter be ranked by IL in the Top 20 or 30 for her class? Will she earn a spot in the UA Senior AA game next year? If she is that caliber of player that is terrific and I am sure she will be able to choose to go wherever she wants. If she is not that caliber don't expect any offers from Top 10 - 20 programs anytime soon, those schools typically don't make offers to second tier players until all of the top players have committed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.

For the most part, the best players will choose to go to Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Duke, Princeton, Syracuse, Florida, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, Stanford, USC, JMU, and maybe a few others (Stony Brook gets some top LI talent ). Certainly not all equal academically but all are excellent schools and the majority of the top players tend to find a home at one of them.

You remind of the type of people who say my daughter choose academics first, she went D III.

To each her own, not sure why people want to put people , programs or schools down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.

For the most part, the best players will choose to go to Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Duke, Princeton, Syracuse, Florida, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, Stanford, USC, JMU, and maybe a few others (Stony Brook gets some top LI talent ). Certainly not all equal academically but all are excellent schools and the majority of the top players tend to find a home at one of them.

You remind of the type of people who say my daughter choose academics first, she went D III.

To each her own, not sure why people want to put people , programs or schools down.

LOL! Not putting any program down. Just saying it’s not the right fit for my daughter. She’s not majoring in lacrosse, even though she could if she wanted too. Luckily some girls have options. This is no accident. It’s due to sacrifice and hard work. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 09:54 PM
15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 10:41 PM
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"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.

For the most part, the best players will choose to go to Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Duke, Princeton, Syracuse, Florida, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, Stanford, USC, JMU, and maybe a few others (Stony Brook gets some top LI talent ). Certainly not all equal academically but all are excellent schools and the majority of the top players tend to find a home at one of them.

You remind of the type of people who say my daughter choose academics first, she went D III.

To each her own, not sure why people want to put people , programs or schools down.

LOL! Not putting any program down. Just saying it’s not the right fit for my daughter. She’s not majoring in lacrosse, even though she could if she wanted too. Luckily some girls have options. This is no accident. It’s due to sacrifice and hard work. Good luck to all!

You absolutely put the program and the school down. Sorry to tell you that if Maryland is offering a girl a spot I guarantee you that she has plenty of options.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 04:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I’m hard pressed to think of a women’s lacrosse player being recruited that wouldn’t take Cathy Reese’s call. If they wouldn’t, they are the fool."

Not one girl at my daughter's school has ever wanted to play for Maryland. If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW or Notre Dame - people in MD need to get out of their bubble. Cathy Reese is a great coach and the girls on the team seem like excellent kids, so good luck to them.

What a bunch of BS.

"Not one girl at my daughters school has ever wanted to play for Maryland" more nonsense...

"If they get their pick of college lacrosse opportunities they always go High Academic - Ivies, Duke, NW, Notre Dame"..... Yeah, okay.

Not even sure where to begin... Lets start with this: only Princeton and Penn can be mentioned in the same breath as Northwestern, Notre Dame and Duke when we are talking lacrosse. Any given year there are maybe 5 - 9 girls total from Long Island that commit to Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Princeton or Penn. I'm sure they are not all from your daughters school. The odds are that your daughters school might produce Zero players most years that are offered opportunities at the schools mentioned, maybe 1 or 2 on a good year. So, where do they all go? Very doubtful that Maryland would even offer a spot to 1 girl if any in a given year from your daughters school.

Trying to diminish The University of Maryland and or the Terrapin Lacrosse Program simply makes you look foolish.


Why are you so mad? Pretty sure my daughter will get some very strong offers from top academic and top 20 lax schools. MD is not a top Choice. Average academic school who’s lax has declined. Just not the kind of school my daughter is interested in. You should be happy, more spots for your daughter! Would be a third tier for us, like a safety school.

For the most part, the best players will choose to go to Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Duke, Princeton, Syracuse, Florida, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, Stanford, USC, JMU, and maybe a few others (Stony Brook gets some top LI talent ). Certainly not all equal academically but all are excellent schools and the majority of the top players tend to find a home at one of them.

You remind of the type of people who say my daughter choose academics first, she went D III.

To each her own, not sure why people want to put people , programs or schools down.

LOL! Not putting any program down. Just saying it’s not the right fit for my daughter. She’s not majoring in lacrosse, even though she could if she wanted too. Luckily some girls have options. This is no accident. It’s due to sacrifice and hard work. Good luck to all!

You absolutely put the program and the school down. Sorry to tell you that if Maryland is offering a girl a spot I guarantee you that she has plenty of options.

September 1st is almost here and I assure you that many parents will be getting a big wake up call that little Suzy isn’t as good as her parents think she is. Especially with so many 5th year transfers in the portal that have been picked up. I think the 23’s are in for a rude awakening!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 11:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 11:16 AM
So, 100s of girls show up at Duke camp thinking that will get them recruited there. Duke will take about 6 girls this year. 4 of which have already been chosen. That leaves two open spots from camp..maybe. How are those odds?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 01:02 PM
-- "September 1st is almost here and I assure you that many parents will be getting a big wake up call that little Suzy isn’t as good as her parents think she is. Especially with so many 5th year transfers in the portal that have been picked up. I think the 23’s are in for a rude awakening!!" --

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I agree with the above post. Not because I am a hater or because I want people to be disappointed, simply because I have seen it all before. There are parents who complain about every tryout, every "list", every All-Star team etc... These are the parents that blame everything under the sun when other players are recognized ahead other daughter. These same parents will now complain about the recruiting process, they will blame politics, their club director, their HS coach and everything else as to why their daughter is not committing right away to a "top program/school". They will make excuses and attempt to tear down the players who do commit to the top programs/schools in the first moth or so. We have heard it before and we will hear it again "she will never see the field", "that's a real head scratcher", "her father is connected", "we are putting academics first" etc....

I love when I hear things like "Maryland is not on her list" as if she is on Marylands list....

These are the same type of people who will then try to spin whatever their daughter does as "the best" possible choice/decision all the while knocking the choices made by others. Newsflash, trying to tear down others in an effort to elevate yourself/your daughter and or her choice is not a good look.

I have heard it in person and I have read it on this site... when a girl commits to Maryland, UNC, Syracuse etc... it's "she will major in lacrosse" or "she will never see the field", "my daughter does not want to be a lacrosse coach"...

September first is when parents and players find out just where they stand in relation to other players. The top players will receive multiple offers from some of the top college programs. There are many great schools that have women's lacrosse, but the reality is that the majority of the top players receive offers from and choose to attend one of those top programs.

Two older kids found great fits both at great schools with great lacrosse programs. One was considered a "top recruit" and had multiple offers from top 5 caliber programs as well as top 10 academic schools, the other was not that caliber but is at what I consider to be a great school (not Ivy, Stanford, Duke, ND, NU etc...) but a great school none the less. One (the one who was a top recruit) has started / played in every game on a Top 10 caliber team, the other has yet to see the field at a Top 20 caliber team. One was able to commit early the other had to go through the process (and it was long and at times stressful) but it all worked out. Both are very happy with where they are at.

I wish everyone well but... to the haters who knock players, schools, programs, coaches, clubs etc... to those who cry politics every time their daughter is not recognized we will see on September 1st and in the weeks to come how players stack up.

There will be surprises that go both ways.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I agree with most of what you say, except "Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player."

I don't think that is the case, at least not for me. I just do not like when people bash or put down players, schools , programs etc...

I will say that if a girl is a top tier recruit at a school like MD she can choose to go to many other "great" academic schools if she chooses even if she doesn't have incredible grades.

Maryland is an excellent school with a great lacrosse program.

To each her own, find the "best fit".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I just don't think there is this diaspora of wlax players out there who turned down UMD offer. I am not suggesting that your kid wasn't good enough to play there, but I think they have it locked and loaded before Sept 1 even hits. It's 4 maybe 5 girls committing. It's an incredibly small group of kids. I don't think an offer exists for someone who would call the school a third tier safety. The program is in the position not to have to entertain people who deem it as such.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I just don't think there is this diaspora of wlax players out there who turned down UMD offer. I am not suggesting that your kid wasn't good enough to play there, but I think they have it locked and loaded before Sept 1 even hits. It's 4 maybe 5 girls committing. It's an incredibly small group of kids. I don't think an offer exists for someone who would call the school a third tier safety. The program is in the position not to have to entertain people who deem it as such.

Well said.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I just don't think there is this diaspora of wlax players out there who turned down UMD offer. I am not suggesting that your kid wasn't good enough to play there, but I think they have it locked and loaded before Sept 1 even hits. It's 4 maybe 5 girls committing. It's an incredibly small group of kids. I don't think an offer exists for someone who would call the school a third tier safety. The program is in the position not to have to entertain people who deem it as such.

Well said.

Lol, MD is not what it once was. They will have to fight hard for the top girls that reside outside MD. I can tell you that none of the top girls from LI/NJ/Conn, and PA have MD as their top choice. I’m hearing BC, NW,ND, UNC, Stanford, Penn, Princeton are the most sought after. I know this from talking to parents at various events. However MD will get some of the better girls from Skywalkers, M&D, and Heros since there tuition is already sliced in half.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I just don't think there is this diaspora of wlax players out there who turned down UMD offer. I am not suggesting that your kid wasn't good enough to play there, but I think they have it locked and loaded before Sept 1 even hits. It's 4 maybe 5 girls committing. It's an incredibly small group of kids. I don't think an offer exists for someone who would call the school a third tier safety. The program is in the position not to have to entertain people who deem it as such.

Well said.

Lol, MD is not what it once was. They will have to fight hard for the top girls that reside outside MD. I can tell you that none of the top girls from LI/NJ/Conn, and PA have MD as their top choice. I’m hearing BC, NW,ND, UNC, Stanford, Penn, Princeton are the most sought after. I know this from talking to parents at various events. However MD will get some of the better girls from Skywalkers, M&D, and Heros since there tuition is already sliced in half.

Those schools are always the most sought after… I would add Duke, USC (for those looking to go to the west coast) Syracuse, Florida Penn State and of course Maryland…. It doesn’t matter where a kid is from those schools seem to get the top talent year after year. BTW, where have the Majority of Maryland’s best players come from in the past? Bottom line is the top tier players get to choose where they want to go to school, some will obviously choose Maryland. The large majority of players will not receive offers from any of the schools listed above, that’s just reality. I’m guessing for this class the total number of commits to those schools will be 70 - 80 total, out of what? 800 plus commits?
The Maryland bashing is comical, great school, great program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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[quote=Anonymous]15 national titles, I think it’s fair to say the best players have indeed picked MD over and over again. And look, MD isn’t on my kids radar either. She’s not good enough to play there. She might end up at a school held in higher academic esteem but only because there are so many factors at play and there are plenty of schools looking for players of her caliber.

To the MD naysayer, good luck in the process. Sounds like your kid will have far more opportunities than anyone I’ve ever heard of. I don’t mean that facetiously, I just don’t know anyone else in the lacrosse community who has had that type of interest. I’m glad there are kids out there still getting those kinds of looks and with that kind of all around appeal to be garnering that kind of attention. We all have to support our kids in their own process.

There is no denying MD is the most successful women’s lax program, period. The decline someone mentioned is more likely just a dip in 2020-21, and they will continue to compete for national championships for many years to come. But I also know that for many players who actually “can” get recruited to play there, it is not even a thought. If your daughter is a great player, it opens a great many doors to many schools. If she is a great student, it opens many more doors as well. Despite what you hear on this site, these kids still need great grades, great scores and challenging course loads to gain entrance to the highest level schools. Lacrosse certainly helps get very good students in to schools that otherwise may be out of their reach. Point is, if you want all the doors open, your daughter needs to be a great player and a great student. And while MD program is probably #1 school on the list from a pure lacrosse standpoint, it is definitely not what many are looking for academically. For some students it may be a tough school to get into through regular admission, for many, not really. Someone on here seems to want to make a point that if #1 lax school MD wants your daughter, she must want to play there. And if you think otherwise, she must not be a good enough player. I guess my point is this is not the case. Many great players, who have the doors wide open, who can play for MD if they choose, do not want to play for MD.

I just don't think there is this diaspora of wlax players out there who turned down UMD offer. I am not suggesting that your kid wasn't good enough to play there, but I think they have it locked and loaded before Sept 1 even hits. It's 4 maybe 5 girls committing. It's an incredibly small group of kids. I don't think an offer exists for someone who would call the school a third tier safety. The program is in the position not to have to entertain people who deem it as such.

Well said.

Lol, MD is not what it once was. They will have to fight hard for the top girls that reside outside MD. I can tell you that none of the top girls from LI/NJ/Conn, and PA have MD as their top choice. I’m hearing BC, NW,ND, UNC, Stanford, Penn, Princeton are the most sought after. I know this from talking to parents at various events. However MD will get some of the better girls from Skywalkers, M&D, and Heros since there tuition is already sliced in half.

Those schools are always the most sought after… I would add Duke, USC (for those looking to go to the west coast) Syracuse, Florida Penn State and of course Maryland…. It doesn’t matter where a kid is from those schools seem to get the top talent year after year. BTW, where have the Majority of Maryland’s best players come from in the past? Bottom line is the top tier players get to choose where they want to go to school, some will obviously choose Maryland. The large majority of players will not receive offers from any of the schools listed above, that’s just reality. I’m guessing for this class the total number of commits to those schools will be 70 - 80 total, out of what? 800 plus commits?
The Maryland bashing is comical, great school, great program.

I have to say, it appears to me that some on this site think that players/parents just get to pick where they will go to school. Very few players will be able to choose one of these top programs/schools (if your daughter is one of them congratulations). There are lots of other great opportunities for the majority of players to try to find a home no need to knock any of them. My guess is that only about 20 - 25 Long Island players will be going to one of those schools with maybe half that number going to the top tier academic schools on the list. I’m sure there will be some parents who are pleasantly surprised by the opportunities presented to their but I am also sure that there will be a lot of parents surprised when no offers come from the schools listed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
-- "September 1st is almost here and I assure you that many parents will be getting a big wake up call that little Suzy isn’t as good as her parents think she is. Especially with so many 5th year transfers in the portal that have been picked up. I think the 23’s are in for a rude awakening!!" --

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I agree with the above post. Not because I am a hater or because I want people to be disappointed, simply because I have seen it all before. There are parents who complain about every tryout, every "list", every All-Star team etc... These are the parents that blame everything under the sun when other players are recognized ahead other daughter. These same parents will now complain about the recruiting process, they will blame politics, their club director, their HS coach and everything else as to why their daughter is not committing right away to a "top program/school". They will make excuses and attempt to tear down the players who do commit to the top programs/schools in the first moth or so. We have heard it before and we will hear it again "she will never see the field", "that's a real head scratcher", "her father is connected", "we are putting academics first" etc....

I love when I hear things like "Maryland is not on her list" as if she is on Marylands list....

These are the same type of people who will then try to spin whatever their daughter does as "the best" possible choice/decision all the while knocking the choices made by others. Newsflash, trying to tear down others in an effort to elevate yourself/your daughter and or her choice is not a good look.

I have heard it in person and I have read it on this site... when a girl commits to Maryland, UNC, Syracuse etc... it's "she will major in lacrosse" or "she will never see the field", "my daughter does not want to be a lacrosse coach"...

September first is when parents and players find out just where they stand in relation to other players. The top players will receive multiple offers from some of the top college programs. There are many great schools that have women's lacrosse, but the reality is that the majority of the top players receive offers from and choose to attend one of those top programs.

Two older kids found great fits both at great schools with great lacrosse programs. One was considered a "top recruit" and had multiple offers from top 5 caliber programs as well as top 10 academic schools, the other was not that caliber but is at what I consider to be a great school (not Ivy, Stanford, Duke, ND, NU etc...) but a great school none the less. One (the one who was a top recruit) has started / played in every game on a Top 10 caliber team, the other has yet to see the field at a Top 20 caliber team. One was able to commit early the other had to go through the process (and it was long and at times stressful) but it all worked out. Both are very happy with where they are at.

I wish everyone well but... to the haters who knock players, schools, programs, coaches, clubs etc... to those who cry politics every time their daughter is not recognized we will see on September 1st and in the weeks to come how players stack up.

There will be surprises that go both ways.

Both comments above couldn't be more true! As a parent who has also been through it 2x (with a daughter and a son), I feel like I have a decent handle on what will happen for my younger 2023 daughter come Sept 1st. However, having been through it twice before, I also know there will be many surprises. There always are (good and bad). This year also has the residual effects of covid. For those parents and players getting ready to go through it the first time, all I have to say is be open to ALL options! Both of my older kids ended up at schools that weren't originally on "their list" and not because they weren't good programs or schools, but because most kids consider the same list of schools. My older kids are very good players. Both had made the UA AA underclass teams a couple of years. Both played varsity for high schools in top lacrosse conferences and played for clubs with very good reputations. But it was still a process that was stressful at times and much longer than both my kids hoped. However, they ended up at schools that were the perfect match for them. If they had received immediate offers without investigating other schools, I don't know that it would've worked out as well overall for them. My son ended up at a mid-D1 program and my daughter at a Top-D2 program (she did receive D1 offers but not at schools she was interested in otherwise). Both with very good academics and a team culture and coach fit that is perfect for them. Both in areas of the country they wanted to attend school in. And both that offered the majors they were interested in. They love playing lacrosse again which wasn't the case at the end of their high school years. EVERY kid will have their own personal process and it isn't anyone's place to judge their process or their results. I know several excellent youth lacrosse players who chose to play club in college in the end. And I also know many top youth players who committed to play in college but ended up quitting lacrosse midway through their college years. Good luck to everyone's player and parents as you start the recruiting process in a couple of days!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:27 AM
Thank you and so well said! Every kids recruiting journey will be different, I Appreciate your perspective. As a parent who is about to go through it for the first time and not knowing what to expect, I appreciate you sharing your experience, thoughts and advice. I always hear, most kids end up where they belong. So, hoping that is the case for all the wonderful, awesome LI girl Lacrosse players! Good Luck All
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:31 AM
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 11:30 AM
Exciting time for all. Wishing all kids the best of luck 9/1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 01:35 PM
Do we expect any college coaches to show up in person at this Inside Lacrosse Elite Eight Midnight Madness event tonight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.

Be patient and try not to get too upset if the phone isn't buzzing too much on 9/1. The elite players will go quickly and then the others will take weeks and months. Every kid's journey will be different. Be open, be respectful to all programs. Do not believe most of what the other parents tell you after 9/1 - they are most likely exaggerating or flat out lying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do we expect any college coaches to show up in person at this Inside Lacrosse Elite Eight Midnight Madness event tonight?

No. They already have their lists, and it's very unlikely to change despite a great or weak performance. They will likely watch the live stream though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do we expect any college coaches to show up in person at this Inside Lacrosse Elite Eight Midnight Madness event tonight?

No. They already have their lists, and it's very unlikely to change despite a great or weak performance. They will likely watch the live stream though.

I don’t know if they will attend but I do know that “their lists” will change consistently. Once that first player commits the coaches re-evaluate and prioritize.

When that first Top Tier kid Commits most likely 4 or 5 other programs just lost one of their highly ranked recruits that they were hoping to get. It goes on and on, it is very fluid and a coach who was not offering today may offer tomorrow if they miss on other players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do we expect any college coaches to show up in person at this Inside Lacrosse Elite Eight Midnight Madness event tonight?

No. They already have their lists, and it's very unlikely to change despite a great or weak performance. They will likely watch the live stream though.

I don’t know if they will attend but I do know that “their lists” will change consistently. Once that first player commits the coaches re-evaluate and prioritize.

When that first Top Tier kid Commits most likely 4 or 5 other programs just lost one of their highly ranked recruits that they were hoping to get. It goes on and on, it is very fluid and a coach who was not offering today may offer tomorrow if they miss on other players.


Yes, and the coaches are not allowed to be there because it is still the quiet period until 12 midnight. However, Spallina will be there watching because his sons are playing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.
Be patient. Don't compare your daughters process with anyone else. Everyone's process is different! Communicate back to all schools that have reached out - even the emails.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.
Be patient. Don't compare your daughters process with anyone else. Everyone's process is different! Communicate back to all schools that have reached out - even the emails.

Agree with ^. We had a very polite reply ready for the schools that my daughter knew she did not want to attend for reasons such as academic standing or location. I think it is only fair to let those schools know as soon as possible that you are not interested so they can move along.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 03:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.
Be patient. Don't compare your daughters process with anyone else. Everyone's process is different! Communicate back to all schools that have reached out - even the emails.

Agree with ^. We had a very polite reply ready for the schools that my daughter knew she did not want to attend for reasons such as academic standing or location. I think it is only fair to let those schools know as soon as possible that you are not interested so they can move along.

Thanks! Suddenly there has been a flurry of activity on my daughters account from schools she never contacted; yet not seeing activity anymore from the schools she's really interested in. Guess we'll know more tomorrow. We may go quickly from "So excited to hear from schools!" to "rather not play". Between this and stress of being back in person post COVID these will be some interesting times to navigate with 16 year olds. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.
Be patient. Don't compare your daughters process with anyone else. Everyone's process is different! Communicate back to all schools that have reached out - even the emails.

Agree with ^. We had a very polite reply ready for the schools that my daughter knew she did not want to attend for reasons such as academic standing or location. I think it is only fair to let those schools know as soon as possible that you are not interested so they can move along.

Thanks! Suddenly there has been a flurry of activity on my daughters account from schools she never contacted; yet not seeing activity anymore from the schools she's really interested in. Guess we'll know more tomorrow. We may go quickly from "So excited to hear from schools!" to "rather not play". Between this and stress of being back in person post COVID these will be some interesting times to navigate with 16 year olds. Good luck to all!

We’ve had some weird stuff like that happen too. Hard to say what any of it means. We will find out in a few hours! Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 05:53 PM
Please hear me out- What if you are not ready to commit and want to work on your form a little bit more, like one season more.
And as a 23 you're not ready to make a decision until next summer?
Will some schools still come back to you (I know that they wont wait for you to make your decision) or blackball you?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.

I would suggest keeping very detailed notes of everything discussed with coaches. And every single coach will ask your daughter if she has any questions, have a canned list of at least a dozen ready to go. "Uhm" or "NO" is not an acceptable answer. Prep your daughter on how to handle these calls prior to answering them. Have a calendar ready and if it is a college of interest, book the visit date, whether it is the coach coming to do a home visit or you going to campus and follow up with details later. Keep all doors and options open until you have other better options and offers in your hand, even if your dream school calls, you most likely will still need a visit with the coach to get an offer, so you never know. My daughter had a lot of phone calls starting exactly at midnight, the coaches want to express interest, get you pumped on their program, but are also in a bit of a hurry to make other calls. Call waiting beeps should be ignored, but that is stressful too, but they will continue to call back until they reach you. We were up to about 4-5:00AM taking calls, then it died down til about 7:30AM then got busy again. The next two days were mostly follow up calls and making arrangements. Most coaches send an email exactly at midnight if they are interested and call ASAP. A set time for a phone meeting can be set up by responding to the emails, that seemed the easiest way as your daughter may be taking other calls and the coaches may be making other calls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any other good advice and/or tips from parents who have been through the recruiting process? All, is Greatly appreciated by us first timers.

I would suggest keeping very detailed notes of everything discussed with coaches. And every single coach will ask your daughter if she has any questions, have a canned list of at least a dozen ready to go. "Uhm" or "NO" is not an acceptable answer. Prep your daughter on how to handle these calls prior to answering them. Have a calendar ready and if it is a college of interest, book the visit date, whether it is the coach coming to do a home visit or you going to campus and follow up with details later. Keep all doors and options open until you have other better options and offers in your hand, even if your dream school calls, you most likely will still need a visit with the coach to get an offer, so you never know. My daughter had a lot of phone calls starting exactly at midnight, the coaches want to express interest, get you pumped on their program, but are also in a bit of a hurry to make other calls. Call waiting beeps should be ignored, but that is stressful too, but they will continue to call back until they reach you. We were up to about 4-5:00AM taking calls, then it died down til about 7:30AM then got busy again. The next two days were mostly follow up calls and making arrangements. Most coaches send an email exactly at midnight if they are interested and call ASAP. A set time for a phone meeting can be set up by responding to the emails, that seemed the easiest way as your daughter may be taking other calls and the coaches may be making other calls.
This is fabulous advice.
My bit to add is to have your daughter ask the coach how many 23s they are planning on recruiting for the class (i.e. 6 kids) and where she stands on their list. Prep her and make sure she asks bc that information is very helpful to know. Some coaches will not be straight up,but others will.
If your daughter's dream school calls-it doesn't bode well if she tells them or any bid dogs who are interested that she's just going through the process. You have to let the schools you are interested in that you are very interested in them. If your daughter doesn't communicate that-they may just move on.
ENJOY this time!! A coach told me that and I thought they were crazy-it's definitely stressful-but folks-this is it-this is what your daughter has put so much time and hard work for and you've shelled out lots of money for. Enjoy those official visits (Unofficials are fun, too). Enjoy being wanted. There's a great fit out there for every girl.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 10:29 PM
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 10:42 PM
I would also say with all the excitement of being called, don’t get too upset if you don’t get any calls, it doesn’t mean you won’t, and doesn’t mean no one is interested in your daughter, as a HS coach I’ve seen too many times where a girl is expecting calls and get nothing and their whole demeanor changes, for 95% of the girls, this is a marathon, not a sprint!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do we expect any college coaches to show up in person at this Inside Lacrosse Elite Eight Midnight Madness event tonight?

No. They already have their lists, and it's very unlikely to change despite a great or weak performance. They will likely watch the live stream though.

I don’t know if they will attend but I do know that “their lists” will change consistently. Once that first player commits the coaches re-evaluate and prioritize.

When that first Top Tier kid Commits most likely 4 or 5 other programs just lost one of their highly ranked recruits that they were hoping to get. It goes on and on, it is very fluid and a coach who was not offering today may offer tomorrow if they miss on other players.


Yes, and the coaches are not allowed to be there because it is still the quiet period until 12 midnight. However, Spallina will be there watching because his sons are playing.

Thanks JS fanboy for his location update
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 11:26 PM
Don’t expect the phone to ring.. the contact will be 99% text messages or emails.. 99.9% of girls WIIL NOT receive any offer tonight, tomorrow or the month of September.. the process is just beginning for your group not ending
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would also say with all the excitement of being called, don’t get too upset if you don’t get any calls, it doesn’t mean you won’t, and doesn’t mean no one is interested in your daughter, as a HS coach I’ve seen too many times where a girl is expecting calls and get nothing and their whole demeanor changes, for 95% of the girls, this is a marathon, not a sprint!

Great post! Just so parents and kids don’t get discouraged and frustrated. The phone frenzy on 9/1 prob 5% of the girls?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:32 AM
As the mom of a 22, I can’t agree with this more. My daughter did commit but not immediately. Sept 1st is just day 1. Many of her friends from high school who are all from different clubs (and some are from the very top clubs in the country) only received emails and txts on Sept 1st. Some ended up at a Top 10 program in the end. Don’t be discouraged if you don’t get a personal visit or call on day 1. Keep your daughter positive. There will be tough and stressful days I promise. It’s quite the roller coaster but worth it in the end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don’t expect the phone to ring.. the contact will be 99% text messages or emails.. 99.9% of girls WIIL NOT receive any offer tonight, tomorrow or the month of September.. the process is just beginning for your group not ending
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?


they must be on carols poopy list
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:48 AM
Jerry stop posting on every thread about your club 🤦🏻‍♂️
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:49 AM
with all the results in from this summer its a bit disappointing that Inside Lacrosse calls it the elite eight - its not really the top 8 teams without Conn Grizzlies and Jesters Black here! Grizzlies have beat just about every team invited here and so have the Jesters.... makes no sense! It would mean so much more to the players and everyone else if it was really the best 8 teams. Top Gun got manhandled by Grizzlies both times they played this summer and they lost to Jesters. Monster and Skywalker lost to Grizzlies and lost to Jesters this summer. Heroes also lost to both Grizzlies and Jesters this summer. YJ lost to Grizzlies and lost to Jesters and then we beat them in a close game at Mid Atlantic Championship! My daughter is here playing w YJ so i'm happy but its not right!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Great question!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Lol, Jesters aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side! Otherwise they would have been invited to the Elite 8
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?
yes they did
politics
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:04 PM
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.

I think they do it in October after girls commit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Lol, Jesters aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side! Otherwise they would have been invited to the Elite 8

They are Not there because of politics! If it were truly based on merit then Jesters and Grizzlies should be there. The politics are a Total disservice to girls lacrosse the teams, and the girls !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:20 PM
The Grizzlies Girls did not want to go. They were one of the 8 teams originally invited. When they pulled out, Legacy was invited late instead of Jesters. Personally It is Ernie-meanie-mynie-mo between those two Only thing that should seriously be on your minds is what to do next with the recruiting process.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:23 PM
Grizzlies turned down the Invite due to conflicts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:35 PM
Not seeing anything on here I am assuming TG lost to MD united ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:38 PM
Maryland United?!
Sky walkers 0-3 even with no Grizzlies ?!
At least college coaches know there events don’t really mean anything...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Grizzlies turned down the Invite due to conflicts.

Didn't want their kids playing lax at midnight 4 hours from home on a school night? Crazy?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Grizzlies turned down the Invite due to conflicts.

Didn't want their kids playing lax at midnight 4 hours from home on a school night? Crazy?

Haha, More like they wanted to make sure they were home for their 12:00 phone calls!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.

Traditionally Inside Lacrosse has put out their Junior & Senior “Young Guns” rankings in September. They originally ranked 30 players they then increased it to 40 players and eventually 50 players . Last year , I assume due to COVID they changed it up a bit. The dropped the “Young Guns” name and I believe they ranked the Top 20 or 30 (can’t remember).

Who knows what they will do this year.

Coaches put players on their list who they believe can help their program. It has nothing to do with UA or AS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland United?!
Sky walkers 0-3 even with no Grizzlies ?!
At least college coaches know there events don’t really mean anything...

You shouldn’t be worried about what other teams are doing. It’s September 1st it’s recruiting time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Grizzlies turned down the Invite due to conflicts.

Didn't want their kids playing lax at midnight 4 hours from home on a school night? Crazy?

Haha, More like they wanted to make sure they were home for their 12:00 phone calls!

Why don’t they have cell phones?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maryland United?!
Sky walkers 0-3 even with no Grizzlies ?!
At least college coaches know there events don’t really mean anything...

You shouldn’t be worried about what other teams are doing. It’s September 1st it’s recruiting time.

Not worried about the girls - Its the mom's wounded egos from all of the "Lets Go!" overposting yesterday on socialmedia.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.

Traditionally Inside Lacrosse has put out their Junior & Senior “Young Guns” rankings in September. They originally ranked 30 players they then increased it to 40 players and eventually 50 players . Last year , I assume due to COVID they changed it up a bit. The dropped the “Young Guns” name and I believe they ranked the Top 20 or 30 (can’t remember).

Who knows what they will do this year.

Coaches put players on their list who they believe can help their program. It has nothing to do with UA or AS.

Inside Lacrosse will put the rankings out after the top girls commit. They’ll rank them based off which top schools they commit to they actually haven’t watched them play. Why you shouldn’t care about it to much. Most will be great players so will the most next 50 players that didn’t make list.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not seeing anything on here I am assuming TG lost to MD united ?

Yes, in overtime. Was a fun tournament, my daughter answered calls from all the schools she was interested on the way home, and already has several official visits being set up. Such an exciting time for these young ladies. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 05:14 PM
Any 23 commits yet?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.

Traditionally Inside Lacrosse has put out their Junior & Senior “Young Guns” rankings in September. They originally ranked 30 players they then increased it to 40 players and eventually 50 players . Last year , I assume due to COVID they changed it up a bit. The dropped the “Young Guns” name and I believe they ranked the Top 20 or 30 (can’t remember).

Who knows what they will do this year.

Coaches put players on their list who they believe can help their program. It has nothing to do with UA or AS.

Inside Lacrosse will put the rankings out after the top girls commit. They’ll rank them based off which top schools they commit to they actually haven’t watched them play. Why you shouldn’t care about it to much. Most will be great players so will the most next 50 players that didn’t make list.

Not true at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?

Yes! Legacy goalie committed a while ago to Navy. I don’t think we will see many others for a few weeks. I know my daughter will visit 4-5 schools over the next several weeks before making her choice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will InsideLacrosse be ranking 23’s this year?
Will there be any watchlists coming out? Can’t believe my girl is a junior and there haven’t been any kind of rankings or watchlist for her class (Covid, I know)
I hope coaches look beyond UAAA and AS for girls to put on the lists.

Traditionally Inside Lacrosse has put out their Junior & Senior “Young Guns” rankings in September. They originally ranked 30 players they then increased it to 40 players and eventually 50 players . Last year , I assume due to COVID they changed it up a bit. The dropped the “Young Guns” name and I believe they ranked the Top 20 or 30 (can’t remember).

Who knows what they will do this year.

Coaches put players on their list who they believe can help their program. It has nothing to do with UA or AS.

Inside Lacrosse will put the rankings out after the top girls commit. They’ll rank them based off which top schools they commit to they actually haven’t watched them play. Why you shouldn’t care about it to much. Most will be great players so will the most next 50 players that didn’t make list.

Inside Lacrosse absolute watches the girls play and their rankings are base upon what they watch all summer long. They watch the most competitive club teams/tournaments as well as UA underclass (maybe this year AS as well).

You sound like one of those people who try to diminish every list or team that comes out.

IL rankings have proven to be pretty good for years. I don’t put a lot of stock in the exact rank but the players that get ranked in the top 30 - 40 usually go on to play at the top programs and have good college careers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 06:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?

Yes! Legacy goalie committed a while ago to Navy. I don’t think we will see many others for a few weeks. I know my daughter will visit 4-5 schools over the next several weeks before making her choice.

That’s great! Does that mean your daughter got interest and offers from the 4 or 5 she’s going to visit? Is that how that works? The schools pay for her to come visit?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Lol, Jesters aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side! Otherwise they would have been invited to the Elite 8

It's because of all the beat downs Legacy gave Jesters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 07:58 PM
My daughter is going to need to visit schools since we weren’t able to with COVID. She got calls from schools higher than she expected so I’m not sure how that will work— I think the potential is there that as the dominoes fall some other major programs might move down their list to her. Maybe I’m wrong on that though. She replied to all inquiries in the same format that they messaged her— so if it was a text, she texted, email she emailed. There were not calls— requests for calls this week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Lol, Jesters aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side! Otherwise they would have been invited to the Elite 8

It's because of all the beat downs Legacy gave Jesters.

Beat downs on there B team you mean? They aren't even in the same league as there A team! And for the record, Jesters beat you and 6 other teams in Elite Eight so the best teams weren't there my friend! Legacy 23's are a joke in fact they were in the same division as Jesters in two tournaments this summer and Jesters were undefeated. Legacy couldn't even make playoffs but beat there B team at the end of year and they are pounding their chest.......LOL SMH
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 04:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! great game between YJ and TG! YJ almost pulled off the win...but fell short

I saw they brought CR in to get the win😂

TG is definitely a Thorn in YJs side, pun intended


i agree, kinda like Jesters are a thorn in TG's side and why the heck aren't the Jesters there anyway? Didn't they just beat Monster, Skywalker and Top Gun at MidAtlantic?

Lol, Jesters aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side! Otherwise they would have been invited to the Elite 8

Mid Atlantic Summer Championships

Jesters Black 6
Monster Purple 5

Jesters Black 5
Skywalker Blue 4

Jesters Black 6
Top Gun Black 5

Jesters were 17 - 2 - 1 this summer losing only to Conn 5-3 and YJ 5-3 so were the best 8 teams invited? i don't think so
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 04:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players

You are right. The #1 ranked club team in the age group is a joke.
Lost to the jesters cause one player beat them

Jesters had 3 girls scoring 6 of their goals, Top Gun's tall blond had 4 of their 5 goals - who's team is all about 1 player?
Jester coach made an adjustment and face guarded her and Jesters dominated the entire 2nd half
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TG is a joke !!!
23 ‘s no extra players

You are right. The #1 ranked club team in the age group is a joke.
Lost to the jesters cause one player beat them

Jesters had 3 girls scoring 6 of their goals, Top Gun's tall blond had 4 of their 5 goals - who's team is all about 1 player?
Jester coach made an adjustment and face guarded her and Jesters dominated the entire 2nd half

Still talking about a 20 minute summer overtime win. Submit that with your transcript to the schools of your daughters choice. The recruiting process is in progress seems like you are living in the past. Reality check coming up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 12:40 PM
It's funny that in a 23 forum your still talking about team scores and rankings. Focus should be making sure your supporting your daughter in finding the right fit in the offers she receives
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:08 PM
Totally. It is recruitment time for the rest of us. Jesters parent is clearly trying to compensate for some shortcoming.
We ALL see your summer record and teams you beat by 1 goal and perhaps your team is one of the top 8 or 10...but it is Done. Where will the girls end up 2 yrs from now is happening RIGHT NOW. Focus, stop bellyaching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Totally. It is recruitment time for the rest of us. Jesters parent is clearly trying to compensate for some shortcoming.
We ALL see your summer record and teams you beat by 1 goal and perhaps your team is one of the top 8 or 10...but it is Done. Where will the girls end up 2 yrs from now is happening RIGHT NOW. Focus, stop bellyaching.

Indeed. Hopefully those of you that have daughters who are speaking to coaches are realizing that you've wasted a lot of time worrying about team rankings. The college coaches don't care and I'll bet you it never comes up in any conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:29 PM
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?


Awww poor you. What an obnoxious post.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:37 PM
I have always found it helpful to evaluate the schools as to whether my daughter would still be happy there if a significant injury took her away from playing lacrosse. I.e. the broken leg test
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?

This is awesome! Each kid is so different— my kid struggles academically so we are looking for the best lacrosse at the biggest athletic school, period. Tuition isn’t a factor. In your case, I’d go for the best lacrosse/best school that you can pay for and she likes. Does she want to be driving distance or would she be interested in checking out a different area of the country?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?

I’d immediately remove the schools that don’t want to play her at her preferred position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?

This is awesome! Each kid is so different— my kid struggles academically so we are looking for the best lacrosse at the biggest athletic school, period. Tuition isn’t a factor. In your case, I’d go for the best lacrosse/best school that you can pay for and she likes. Does she want to be driving distance or would she be interested in checking out a different area of the country?

She is, not sure if we are! Already have another kid 7 hours away, and it is a lot harder than it seems, especially if you want to go to all the games. Being closer would be nice, but not the deciding factor. I hear what you mean about academics. All my kids are different academically, and athletically, and it's so important to get the right. fit. Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?


Have your daughter write out a “T” chart of pros and cons for each school. Have her write her feelings and impressions during the phone calls. These she can go back and reference later on when she prioritizes the interest level (both hers and the schools). Rank the schools (1-10) in terms of education,lacrosse, campus, feel, distance and $$$. Just be aware many coaches can and do change positions. These coaches are being up front with her.
In the end there is no wrong choice. It’s a personal decision and she needs to know that her opinion (and yours lol) is all that matters.

Good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?


take a look at the "Commitment Center" tab at the top of this page.. 2023 girls already show 5-6 commits.. congrats to the earlier deciders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?


Awww poor you. What an obnoxious post.

Get over yourself. They are asking for help isn’t that what we should be doing instead of being a bitty baby.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:26 PM
As a PP said - the broken leg test is a great one. On top of that, how would she feel about the school if the coach left? How would she feel potentially riding the bench? How set is she in her education path - do they have a wide variety of majors to choose from so if she wants to switch she can? What non-lacrosse related things are important to her about a school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?

I cant believe you are that savvy but so uninformed about where to find money. It should be the first priority. There is always money somewhere! Esp with the higher endowment schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?
Honestly, these are things you need to be having with your daughters club coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?


take a look at the "Commitment Center" tab at the top of this page.. 2023 girls already show 5-6 commits.. congrats to the earlier deciders.
Those are a bit outdated.
There is a NDP/Heros girl who is SDSU
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?


take a look at the "Commitment Center" tab at the top of this page.. 2023 girls already show 5-6 commits.. congrats to the earlier deciders.
Those are a bit outdated.
There is a NDP/Heros girl who is SDSU
Not all commits' show on the Commitment tab. Parent/child has to submit the commitment for it to be posted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 06:59 PM
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?

This is awesome! Each kid is so different— my kid struggles academically so we are looking for the best lacrosse at the biggest athletic school, period. Tuition isn’t a factor. In your case, I’d go for the best lacrosse/best school that you can pay for and she likes. Does she want to be driving distance or would she be interested in checking out a different area of the country?

So she's going to major in lacrosse and stay as long as she can remain eligible? Good plan.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

That's a great question. You see this happen a lot on the boys side. If a better offer came along, I would take it. And you are 100% right, the grads are taking 2-3 spots away form our girls, especially at the better schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any 23 commits yet?


take a look at the "Commitment Center" tab at the top of this page.. 2023 girls already show 5-6 commits.. congrats to the earlier deciders.

http://www.laxbytes.com/RECRUITS/recruits_wom_2023.php

This list will be the most up to date. All commitment lists need to be submitted by the player (including connectlax which is what shows on the back of the cage commitment page) so unless someone submits their commitment, you will never know. Same for Inside Lacrosse and LaxBytes but I have found the LaxBytes page to be the most comprehensive for the 22's
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/02/21 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, back to stuff that actually is important. A recruiting question. Daughter received interest from the majority of schools she is interested in. There is no perfect school. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Either they are outstanding academic (top 10) with ok lacrosse. Meaning little to no chance of a national championship, but for some (not ACC), a chance for a conference championship. One has a decent chance to win a NC, but is a plane ride away, while the others are 3 hours are less driving. Then there are a couple which are 5-8 hour drive and top 20-30 schools, but will probably not offer any money. A couple other calls informed her that she is not the top of the list, but will likely move up after girls start to commit. Some of these schools also said if they recruit her, she will only be allowed to play a certain position which is not the position she wants to play. She will probably not be waiting around for those schools, as they are no better than the other options that have her higher. She really liked/connected with some coaches she spoke to, but not so much for others. Ivies are definitely in the mix, and we would probably get about 50% there (need based). Does anyone know if any of the Ivies have grants? Would you go for top academic over good academic with better lax? We will obviously be visiting about 5-6 schools, but it is all getting so confusing to make the best choice. Anyone out there going through, or went though a similar scenario and have any advice?


Have your daughter write out a “T” chart of pros and cons for each school. Have her write her feelings and impressions during the phone calls. These she can go back and reference later on when she prioritizes the interest level (both hers and the schools). Rank the schools (1-10) in terms of education,lacrosse, campus, feel, distance and $$$. Just be aware many coaches can and do change positions. These coaches are being up front with her.
In the end there is no wrong choice. It’s a personal decision and she needs to know that her opinion (and yours lol) is all that matters.

Good luck

The above response has great suggestions. I've been through it twice. You really need to pick the school that checks the majority of the boxes and not just the ones pertaining to lacrosse. It has to be a college that the recruit can see themselves attending without lacrosse - but with the best possible combination of college and lacrosse attributes. Believe it or not, a lot can change between verbal commitment and Year 1 of playing. Coaches change schools a lot - take a look at all the movement just this summer. As opportunities open up, head coaches take advantage and there is a substantial domino effect in the coaching world (including assistant coaches who are an integral part of the recruiting process). Even the position you are recruited for can change. Each year the player makeup of the team can change significantly based on graduations and new recruits. You may have been recruited as a middie and played middie freshman and sophomore years but by your junior year, a younger middie may have been recruited that takes your position and you are now needed as a defender. Or a new coach sees you in a different position. Midfielders are highly recruited because the coaches know they will be able to play all positions (except goalie of course). Bottom line, things change and this is why picking the school outside of lacrosse is so very important. This is the reason you will see recruits that could easily play at the Division 1 level choose D2 or D3. The total package (and not just financial package) with a D2/D3 school may be more attractive to the recruit than their available options in D1. I see this happen all of the time. All of the things you mention are a very important part of making your overall decision. Tell your daughter to do her due diligence and then trust her gut from there. Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

That's a great question. You see this happen a lot on the boys side. If a better offer came along, I would take it. And you are 100% right, the grads are taking 2-3 spots away form our girls, especially at the better schools.

2020s will be seniors when 2023s are college freshman. The only class with the extra covid year by that time will be 2019s. Could be some redshirt 20s-22s, I suppose, but not many based on how many 2020s got playing time this past season instead of redshirting. Do you really think coaches are going to pass on 2023s they really like because for one year they might have a few 5th years or grad transfers? It is what it is and older classes are actually getting the short end of the stick more than 2023s. There's always a chance a program will pick up a commit or two late, but I wouldn't count on many players having the opportunity to trade up unless they improve significantly or didn't get much recruiting exposure before junior year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

My answer is based off the following… What would you say about a coach that makes you an offer now, but is able to get a better player two years from now, pulls your offer and gives it to the other player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 09:52 AM
You should honor your commitment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

My answer is based off the following… What would you say about a coach that makes you an offer now, but is able to get a better player two years from now, pulls your offer and gives it to the other player?

Doesn't ever happen. Coaches honor their commitment, except in very rare circumstances which are usually the kid's fault.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

That's a great question. You see this happen a lot on the boys side. If a better offer came along, I would take it. And you are 100% right, the grads are taking 2-3 spots away form our girls, especially at the better schools.

2020s will be seniors when 2023s are college freshman. The only class with the extra covid year by that time will be 2019s. Could be some redshirt 20s-22s, I suppose, but not many based on how many 2020s got playing time this past season instead of redshirting. Do you really think coaches are going to pass on 2023s they really like because for one year they might have a few 5th years or grad transfers? It is what it is and older classes are actually getting the short end of the stick more than 2023s. There's always a chance a program will pick up a commit or two late, but I wouldn't count on many players having the opportunity to trade up unless they improve significantly or didn't get much recruiting exposure before junior year.

All the 2020 Ivies will get an extra year because they didn't play last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should honor your commitment.

That is a very myopic statement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

My answer is based off the following… What would you say about a coach that makes you an offer now, but is able to get a better player two years from now, pulls your offer and gives it to the other player?

Doesn't ever happen. Coaches honor their commitment, except in very rare circumstances which are usually the kid's fault.

Do coaches change jobs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should honor your commitment.

That is a very myopic statement.

No wonder there is so many problems in the world nowadays if people think this is a very myopic statement....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

My answer is based off the following… What would you say about a coach that makes you an offer now, but is able to get a better player two years from now, pulls your offer and gives it to the other player?

Doesn't ever happen. Coaches honor their commitment, except in very rare circumstances which are usually the kid's fault.

Do coaches change jobs?

If a coach leaves and the new coach wants another girl, can they just pull your commitment?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:12 PM
NLI are signed fall senior year, so you can’t sign before your senior hs season, maybe after summer club tourneys, but you’ll also likely be wearing an armband, so not necessarily getting the eyes you might otherwise get off uncommitted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:22 PM
Self edit: can’t sign AFTER senior hs season, unless you decline to sign your NLI in November of senior year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is thought of committing as soon as one of your top 10-15 choices comes through with an offer, playing super spectacular The last two years of high school and then committing at a higher choice on your list the spring or summer before college?
These 23’s are getting the short end of the stick with all of the Covid redshirting, grads, reclassifying, and transfers coming through. There three more years of this waiting game.

That's a great question. You see this happen a lot on the boys side. If a better offer came along, I would take it. And you are 100% right, the grads are taking 2-3 spots away form our girls, especially at the better schools.

2020s will be seniors when 2023s are college freshman. The only class with the extra covid year by that time will be 2019s. Could be some redshirt 20s-22s, I suppose, but not many based on how many 2020s got playing time this past season instead of redshirting. Do you really think coaches are going to pass on 2023s they really like because for one year they might have a few 5th years or grad transfers? It is what it is and older classes are actually getting the short end of the stick more than 2023s. There's always a chance a program will pick up a commit or two late, but I wouldn't count on many players having the opportunity to trade up unless they improve significantly or didn't get much recruiting exposure before junior year.

All the 2020 Ivies will get an extra year because they didn't play last year.

Correct, this is well known so did not think it necessary to clarify. Vast majority of commits each year are not to ivies so won’t impact most of your daughters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should honor your commitment.

That is a very myopic statement.

No wonder there is so many problems in the world nowadays if people think this is a very myopic statement....

Yes, 17 year old girls re-evaluating and possibly revising their decisions based on circumstances changing is definitely causing problems in the world…. Good grief, get over yourself….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should honor your commitment.

That is a very myopic statement.

No wonder there is so many problems in the world nowadays if people think this is a very myopic statement....

Yes, 17 year old girls re-evaluating and possibly revising their decisions based on circumstances changing is definitely causing problems in the world…. Good grief, get over yourself….

Not undermining the need to adjust your plan but the poster was criticizing someone saying one should honor her commitment as "VERY myopic statement" as if commitment doesn't mean anything. I was trying to say one should not take commitment lightly, things can come back and bite you...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 03:42 PM
I will restate “you should honor your commitment” teach your daughter to say what she means and mean what she says. Taking others into account should be your priority. The world does not revolve around any one person. Your commitment today takes a spot away from another deserving student athlete. There are rare exceptions such as I rethought my major and this first school does not offer it. I can also understand if you don’t get admitted into the specific program in the university that you desired which would not allow you to pursue your career goals. Very few exceptions to this rule. Don’t commit if you are not all in.
Lastly I bet she really isn’t even that good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I will restate “you should honor your commitment” teach your daughter to say what she means and mean what she says. Taking others into account should be your priority. The world does not revolve around any one person. Your commitment today takes a spot away from another deserving student athlete. There are rare exceptions such as I rethought my major and this first school does not offer it. I can also understand if you don’t get admitted into the specific program in the university that you desired which would not allow you to pursue your career goals. Very few exceptions to this rule. Don’t commit if you are not all in.
Lastly I bet she really isn’t even that good.

Thanks for the insight… I will be sure to check with you for for the acceptable reasons for changing your commitment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I will restate “you should honor your commitment” teach your daughter to say what she means and mean what she says. Taking others into account should be your priority. The world does not revolve around any one person. Your commitment today takes a spot away from another deserving student athlete. There are rare exceptions such as I rethought my major and this first school does not offer it. I can also understand if you don’t get admitted into the specific program in the university that you desired which would not allow you to pursue your career goals. Very few exceptions to this rule. Don’t commit if you are not all in.
Lastly I bet she really isn’t even that good.

Agreed. Keeping this principle will benefit one in the long term.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I will restate “you should honor your commitment” teach your daughter to say what she means and mean what she says. Taking others into account should be your priority. The world does not revolve around any one person. Your commitment today takes a spot away from another deserving student athlete. There are rare exceptions such as I rethought my major and this first school does not offer it. I can also understand if you don’t get admitted into the specific program in the university that you desired which would not allow you to pursue your career goals. Very few exceptions to this rule. Don’t commit if you are not all in.
Lastly I bet she really isn’t even that good.

You can not be serious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should honor your commitment.

That is a very myopic statement.

No wonder there is so many problems in the world nowadays if people think this is a very myopic statement....

Yes, 17 year old girls re-evaluating and possibly revising their decisions based on circumstances changing is definitely causing problems in the world…. Good grief, get over yourself….

Not undermining the need to adjust your plan but the poster was criticizing someone saying one should honor her commitment as "VERY myopic statement" as if commitment doesn't mean anything. I was trying to say one should not take commitment lightly, things can come back and bite you...

notIntelligent people tend to only see things one way, theirs. They fail to grasp the larger picture.

Simply put, so the small minded can grasp the concept, if enough recruits fail to honor their commitments, then college coaches will see no need to honor their commitments. Agreements of any sort go both ways. How’s that for being myopic?

A commitment is a commitment. A person is only as good as their word.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 11:04 AM
Incredible how the concept of commitment has to be explained to you over and over. Again, there is a process built on commitment. You have no ethics to even pose this question. Unfortunately you are probably passing your value system along to your daughter.

If you think there is nothing wrong with your thinking, share it with each coach during your initial discussion. Let’s us know how it works out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 11:39 AM
YJ to Yale! Here we go!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 12:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Incredible how the concept of commitment has to be explained to you over and over. Again, there is a process built on commitment. You have no ethics to even pose this question. Unfortunately you are probably passing your value system along to your daughter.

If you think there is nothing wrong with your thinking, share it with each coach during your initial discussion. Let’s us know how it works out.

Are you responding to a particular post?

Why do you feel that you have to explain to anyone on here “the concept of commitment “? Pretty sure everyone understands.

Your post reads like gibberish.

The post which stated “you should honor your commitment” is in fact myopic. It is narrow minded, shortsighted and doesn’t look at the big picture or consider possibilities or future considerations.

The statement was simple, “you should honor your commitment “. Then we had a few posters chime in with their self righteous thoughts and opinions on the topic. Then we had the usual personal attacks and parenting advice.

The statement “you should honor your commitment “ leaves little room for interpretation. IMHO it is simple and even foolish. Some of the additional comments are idiotic.

The large majority of girls and parents who have made it this far know all about commitment. Players will make a verbal commitment based on current information, circumstances and opportunities with the intention of honoring that commitment. However, the reality is that information, circumstances and opportunities change and there is nothing wrong with reevaluating your situation and revising you decision / commitment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 02:52 PM
It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.
I’m just happy we have the Ivy League to keep recruiting and red shirting old school
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Incredible how the concept of commitment has to be explained to you over and over. Again, there is a process built on commitment. You have no ethics to even pose this question. Unfortunately you are probably passing your value system along to your daughter.

If you think there is nothing wrong with your thinking, share it with each coach during your initial discussion. Let’s us know how it works out.

Are you responding to a particular post?

Why do you feel that you have to explain to anyone on here “the concept of commitment “? Pretty sure everyone understands.

Your post reads like gibberish.

The post which stated “you should honor your commitment” is in fact myopic. It is narrow minded, shortsighted and doesn’t look at the big picture or consider possibilities or future considerations.

The statement was simple, “you should honor your commitment “. Then we had a few posters chime in with their self righteous thoughts and opinions on the topic. Then we had the usual personal attacks and parenting advice.

The statement “you should honor your commitment “ leaves little room for interpretation. IMHO it is simple and even foolish. Some of the additional comments are idiotic.

The large majority of girls and parents who have made it this far know all about commitment. Players will make a verbal commitment based on current information, circumstances and opportunities with the intention of honoring that commitment. However, the reality is that information, circumstances and opportunities change and there is nothing wrong with reevaluating your situation and revising you decision / commitment.

Very well said! Thank you. Every single situation will be different. Many different circumstances. Good luck to all the girls in finding schools that they will be truly happy at.
Some girls get to schools, and are miserable there. They shouldn’t stay, life is way too short! Best of luck to all of them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.

Yale actually got some very strong commits in the 2022 class. The 2023 commits won’t be starting on day 1. Especially with the extra year. The 2022’s were told after the fact to take a gap semester since the backup of players are already so long.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 11:36 PM
Last year a few yellow jackets also went to Yale on first day. Good for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/04/21 11:41 PM
The strong 23s are getting recruited. Let’s not make excuses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.

Yale actually got some very strong commits in the 2022 class. The 2023 commits won’t be starting on day 1. Especially with the extra year. The 2022’s were told after the fact to take a gap semester since the backup of players are already so long.

Yale can hardly catch and throw. Amazing school, but a lacrosse wasteland. One or two strong commits do not make a program. If they get top 2023 they would start, and vastly improve the program. In fact the better 2023 club teams would beat the current Yale roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 12:18 AM
If you go Ivy, It's Princeton, then Penn. Otherwise it's not competitive lacrosse. I get that many could care less about the lax, and are just lax just to get into the school, but it's not fun loosing most games. Yale is very weak and any top 2023 would absolutely start! But it is Yale and that is a win in itself!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 03:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year a few yellow jackets also went to Yale on first day. Good for them.

Look at the commitments over the last 4-5 years, you will see a trend of more and more kids choosing Yale, Harvard, UPenn, Princeton, Stanford, Brown, etc…. People starting to recognize the rest of these kids lives is much more important than the 4 years they spend playing lacrosse!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 03:29 AM
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 05:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Right on!!!! If any of their kids had a chance to go to YALE, they would jump on that. If not, they would be dense! Hmmm 🤔 That’s amazing and good luck to the commit. Lacrosse is not getting you a great job, it gets you opportunity to maybe get into a school like YALE, that maybe you may have not gotten into otherwise.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 11:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 12:15 PM
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YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.

Yale actually got some very strong commits in the 2022 class. The 2023 commits won’t be starting on day 1. Especially with the extra year. The 2022’s were told after the fact to take a gap semester since the backup of players are already so long.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ to Yale! Here we go!

She’s the first Long Island D1 girl commit for the 23s right?

Besides to an academy yes. I think she is an exception and knew that it was her top choice and may not have had as much interest due to injury. I don’t think we will see too many more until girls get to make a few visits. End of September/ beginning of October is when we will see the majority of top recruits commit. Big decision weighing the positives and negatives of each school. That being said, Yale is a spectacular school with a lacrosse program that could be greatly improved with a strong recruiting class who would probably start on day one, and having her as the first commit may attract other top girls.

Yale actually got some very strong commits in the 2022 class. The 2023 commits won’t be starting on day 1. Especially with the extra year. The 2022’s were told after the fact to take a gap semester since the backup of players are already so long.


The Yale commit was “set for life” day 1. Any speculation on the amount of the endowment her parents made as “insurance”.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 01:33 PM
Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 02:09 PM
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Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.

Who is jealous? And remember she did not “get in” she committed to the process. Other posters only suggested that there are other schools that are better or the same academically that have better lacrosse programs. As of now. Things do and will change, but historically Yale does not have a strong lacrosse program, and this girl, assuming she gets in, would start and could also attract other high end recruits. Good for her and Yale!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 02:18 PM
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Last year a few yellow jackets also went to Yale on first day. Good for them.

Look at the commitments over the last 4-5 years, you will see a trend of more and more kids choosing Yale, Harvard, UPenn, Princeton, Stanford, Brown, etc…. People starting to recognize the rest of these kids lives is much more important than the 4 years they spend playing lacrosse!

Were you borne yesterday? Do you really think that kids and parents have only started to realize the benefits of attending one of those schools over the last 4 or 5 years? There are no more kids going to those schools now than there were in the past.

By the way, the schools that you listed are not for everyone, not every student athlete has the grades to get into those schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.


Just out of curiosity. How does schools like Yale Princeton Havard UPenn etc do with financial packages. I know they are need based but how do they make it affordable for recruits?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 02:59 PM
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Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.

Bingo! There are always the jealous parents who try to elevate their kids status/situation by trying to tear down or diminish the status/situation of others. It not just done with kids that commit to better academic schools, it’s done to kids who commit to top lacrosse schools as well. There are a lot of delusional parents out there and when they realize that the college coaches rank other players higher than their daughter they go on the attack and spout their nonsense and make excuses. The parents will then try to justify and explain why their daughters situation is “the best” I.e.
She didn’t go to Maryland because she wanted to focus on academics … she didn’t go to Princeton because Princeton took a girl who’s father was connecting or her club coach pushed another player…
Bla bla bla…. After you have been through the process multiple times you here the same nonsense over and over…

The reality is that there will be maybe 10 - 12 players from Long Island who truly get to choose whatever school they want. Maybe another 10 who are at the same level athletically but maybe do not have the grades for the top academic schools.

So, when you see players committing to programs that are not traditionally Top 10-20 programs it is usually because the offers were not there from the top programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 03:20 PM
Just wish the girls well and move on. The lacrosse world will be so much better off after the 23 parents are off the sidelines and off this site. Disproportionate amounts of you folks live through your kids. Get a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 03:52 PM
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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.


Just out of curiosity. How does schools like Yale Princeton Havard UPenn etc do with financial packages. I know they are need based but how do they make it affordable for recruits?

Many factors involved… go to each schools website and plug you information into their financial aid calculator, they are fairly accurate from what I have seen.

They do make it affordable even if you have decent income (having multiple kids in college) really helps… wealthy individuals and high income earners will likely get little or no help.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

It all comes down to recruiting, the best programs get the best recruits. There is not an endless supply of players who are considered a "top recruit" and an even smaller number of "top recruits" with the academic credentials required to get accepted at Yale, Harvard and Columbia. There seem to be a lot of parents who do not understand the fact that the best programs get the large majority of the best players and if a player is not being offered a spot by the top programs then that player is most likely not a top player. The coaches at the best programs do not get it wrong very often, if they did they would not consistently be a top program. I am not trying to be a donk, it's just the way it is. It is very difficult to compete with the best programs if you do not bring in top tier talent. Programs like Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, Stony Brook, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, JMU and a few others seem to gobble up the best players every year. When you think about it, that is a pretty diverse list of schools, most of the top players will be able to find a home (good fit) at one of those schools and if a top player wants to go to the West Coast they can choose USC or Stanford both have very competitive lacrosse programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 05:44 PM
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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!

Wow, anything outside the Top 5 is now considered only decent?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 08:05 PM
Yes, the perennial great programs average out a finish in the top 5, obviously it doesn't happen every year. Like a MD, NU, SU, UNC, BC. Many others just outside.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 09:48 PM
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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!
Interesting that you say that you want your daughter to go to the best academic school yet you seem to prioritize lacrosse when talking about The Whole package…. Top 5 lacrosse but Top 10 academic… ;-)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/05/21 10:05 PM
Bottom line—most of these young women will not have a lacrosse career. They love to play and playing in college will be the last hurrah for the majority, so choosing a top academic school is what sets them up for their future. Lacrosse or whatever sport is what sets them apart in a pool full of 4.0+ GPAs, a full load of AP and Honors courses and strong test scores. So committing to an Ivy (really committing to the application process) is amazing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 12:01 AM
Interesting that you say that you want your daughter to go to the best academic school yet you seem to prioritize lacrosse when talking about The Whole package…. Top 5 lacrosse but Top 10 academic… ;-)

There is only one school that meets that criteria. It's Northwestern. But they're not interested in my daughter. So I would now lean towards more of a strong academic vs lacrosse. I also am not interested in traveling lacrosse the country to watch games, although we had interest there. Some other good options for us. It's all about priorities and options. Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 01:25 AM
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It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.

Watching Notre Dame Vs Florida State football, ND Quarter Back originally verbally committed to Notre Dame to play lacrosse , he then switched to go play football at Wisconsin, he lost his starting Job when he was injured, he transferred to Notre Dame and is The ND Starting QB.

Yes, he definitely should have honored his original commitment. Give me a break.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 01:45 PM
Top guns northwestern commit?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.

Watching Notre Dame Vs Florida State football, ND Quarter Back originally verbally committed to Notre Dame to play lacrosse , he then switched to go play football at Wisconsin, he lost his starting Job when he was injured, he transferred to Notre Dame and is The ND Starting QB.

Yes, he definitely should have honored his original commitment. Give me a break.

Next time a women’s lacrosse player switches from lax to football you can tell-post this…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 05:18 PM
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 05:31 PM
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Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.

Watching Notre Dame Vs Florida State football, ND Quarter Back originally verbally committed to Notre Dame to play lacrosse , he then switched to go play football at Wisconsin, he lost his starting Job when he was injured, he transferred to Notre Dame and is The ND Starting QB.

Yes, he definitely should have honored his original commitment. Give me a break.

This is not at all an example of what anyone here is talking about. First, he's a grad transfer - spent four years on roster at WI so how did he not honor his commitment? I don't know his intentions when he committed to UND for lax, but hard to hold it against someone for choosing a different sport with a full ride scholarship.

Don't make a commitment you don't intend to keep, or you hope not to keep. It's really that simple. There are valid reasons players decommit or transfer. Not a problem, sometimes happens, but players shouldn't commit to a program unless they have the best intentions to play there. Don't encourage your kids to commit when you plan to keep shopping around for something better. Besides, top programs are indeed recruiting top 2023s as of 9/1 and if your daughter is not hearing from those programs real soon, it most likely means you're not being realistic and using covid as an excuse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/06/21 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.

She just lost a huge chess game! Great HS player, not sure about college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.

She will go anywhere she wants. Not my kid. She has her pick.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 01:20 AM
I don’t think this went through earlier. If it did or does I’m so sorry for the repost.

My daughter was on 2023 bandits, now 91. We weren’t overly happy with the coaching staff, but thought that staying at this point would be easier than trying to move her. She really wanted to stay with her friends as well so we made the choice to stay. Unfortunately, it is even more unorganized than in the past and there is no sign that the tournaments will be any better than we had with just bandits. We came back and paid under the impression that we’d have a full team even without having tryouts. Sadly many players who verbally committed to come back did not and it seems like numbers are getting lower and lower.

While my daughter and her close friends have paid, we are likely going to make the call to move to another club. My fear is that with one year left, this could hurt her. Friends from other clubs said that being on 91 of bandits was already a set back. So maybe moving is still a better option than staying on a tram falling apart with coaches and an organization we aren’t finding any success with?

Now that tryouts are over, I also fear that there aren’t any other spots left for her let alone her friends. Are there any 23 teams with open spots?

Im torn on what to do and would love advice from other parents in navigating this. Is it worth it to stick it out and risk this team folding (from talking to other parents it seems many are secretly planning their departure.) does anyone know of skilled 23 teams with spots open?

Any advice or input would help. This is my first run around with recruiting and my husband and I are worried.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.

She will go anywhere she wants. Not my kid. She has her pick.

Unfortunately she will not be going to BC. Her spot was taken.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 01:39 AM
Went to camp and official visit and her spot was swiped away, despite her hometown assistant coach vying for her. Don’t wait too long girls! That’s what happens!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 03:02 AM
A 22 just committed to Princeton. Let’s celebrate the accomplishment of those who go early and encourage t
Those who don’t to stay the course!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 10:05 AM
So you're telling me that BC is only taking 1 girl from the 23 class. Could you imagine of the coach is so crazy that she gets BOTH girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 10:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Went to camp and official visit and her spot was swiped away, despite her hometown assistant coach vying for her. Don’t wait too long girls! That’s what happens!

You sound like you know what your talking about where did your daughter commit to Oswego?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 10:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.

She will go anywhere she wants. Not my kid. She has her pick.

Unfortunately she will not be going to BC. Her spot was taken.
Ridiculous statement. They take more then one of a position, but good try
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2023 to commit- BC

Thought the Jesters girl would get that spot!

If you have seen her play, she is one of those kids who can choose where she wants to go as far as her play on the field. Have not seen her grades, but if she took care of business in the classroom, she truly can go anywhere she wants. Hold on and let’s see where she chooses.

She will go anywhere she wants. Not my kid. She has her pick.

Unfortunately she will not be going to BC. Her spot was taken.
Ridiculous statement. They take more then one of a position, but good try

Sounds like someone is afraid of someone else going to BC. We all know if the Jesters girl goes there everyone else takes a back seat. Who doesn’t want the #1 recruit ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 12:41 PM
First, the number one girl is not from the Jesters, and she is also not going to BC. The way it works, is schools have a certain amt they want to recruit for each position. Like 2-3 Mid, 2-3 Att, 2-3 Def, 1 G, If two girls were offered at the same position from BC, they were most likely given a time frame to make the decision. There is only so much money to be given out, and both of those girls would not be getting the big scholarship, although they could both probably go. Now that they have a top Middie, they will focus on getting a top attacker. Besides, in my opinion, the YJ girl will be a better college player, and Jesters girl not looking to sit. I am also not "afraid" of anyone committing to BC. Excellent school, just not the right fit for my daughter. Good luck to everyone making these important decisions. Such an exciting time!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 12:51 PM
How about just being happy for girls that commit to anywhere - whether it's a top 10 school or not, whether it's D2 or D3. These girls work hard to get the offer, be happy for them. PERIOD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t think this went through earlier. If it did or does I’m so sorry for the repost.

My daughter was on 2023 bandits, now 91. We weren’t overly happy with the coaching staff, but thought that staying at this point would be easier than trying to move her. She really wanted to stay with her friends as well so we made the choice to stay. Unfortunately, it is even more unorganized than in the past and there is no sign that the tournaments will be any better than we had with just bandits. We came back and paid under the impression that we’d have a full team even without having tryouts. Sadly many players who verbally committed to come back did not and it seems like numbers are getting lower and lower.

While my daughter and her close friends have paid, we are likely going to make the call to move to another club. My fear is that with one year left, this could hurt her. Friends from other clubs said that being on 91 of bandits was already a set back. So maybe moving is still a better option than staying on a tram falling apart with coaches and an organization we aren’t finding any success with?

Now that tryouts are over, I also fear that there aren’t any other spots left for her let alone her friends. Are there any 23 teams with open spots?

Im torn on what to do and would love advice from other parents in navigating this. Is it worth it to stick it out and risk this team folding (from talking to other parents it seems many are secretly planning their departure.) does anyone know of skilled 23 teams with spots open?

Any advice or input would help. This is my first run around with recruiting and my husband and I are worried.

No matter what this is a tough situation. I’d leave 91. If the team is on the verge of folding, you should secure a spot elsewhere before there are none.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.

Watching Notre Dame Vs Florida State football, ND Quarter Back originally verbally committed to Notre Dame to play lacrosse , he then switched to go play football at Wisconsin, he lost his starting Job when he was injured, he transferred to Notre Dame and is The ND Starting QB.

Yes, he definitely should have honored his original commitment. Give me a break.

This is not at all an example of what anyone here is talking about. First, he's a grad transfer - spent four years on roster at WI so how did he not honor his commitment? I don't know his intentions when he committed to UND for lax, but hard to hold it against someone for choosing a different sport with a full ride scholarship.

Don't make a commitment you don't intend to keep, or you hope not to keep. It's really that simple. There are valid reasons players decommit or transfer. Not a problem, sometimes happens, but players shouldn't commit to a program unless they have the best intentions to play there. Don't encourage your kids to commit when you plan to keep shopping around for something better. Besides, top programs are indeed recruiting top 2023s as of 9/1 and if your daughter is not hearing from those programs real soon, it most likely means you're not being realistic and using covid as an excuse.

Thanks for your input, everyone should be sure to contact you or one of the other chest pounding blow hards who believe themselves to be the arbiters of commitment, just to make sure that their reason is acceptable to you.

The original post was simple and definitive, it stated "you should honor your commitment.". Some of you then jumped on anyone who suggested that such a command was myopic as it implied that once a player verbally commits as 16 or 17 year old girl they must honor that commitment or they somehow lack conviction, character or honor. Your self righteous, moral high ground view of the recruiting / committing process is laughable. On the one hand you put your foot down and imply that it is selfish to change your commitment but then justify reasons that you believe changing your commitment to be acceptable.

Just go away and worry about your own daughter, nobody needs your parenting advice.

To each her own, every situation is different, there will be times when some players want to change their commitment, it is a personal choice and it is the choice of the player and her parents. It is not for you to judge or decide which reasons are acceptable.

By the way, the post regarding the ND Quarter Back illustrates exactly why the "you should honor your commitment" crowd is shortsighted and foolish. Circumstances, situations and opportunities change all the time, it is foolish to not not do what is best for the individual.

Not one post indicated that a player should make a commitment while not intending to honor that commitment. All that was pointed out was that the blanked statement "you should honor your commitment" was myopic. Which it is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 02:27 PM
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t think this went through earlier. If it did or does I’m so sorry for the repost.

My daughter was on 2023 bandits, now 91. We weren’t overly happy with the coaching staff, but thought that staying at this point would be easier than trying to move her. She really wanted to stay with her friends as well so we made the choice to stay. Unfortunately, it is even more unorganized than in the past and there is no sign that the tournaments will be any better than we had with just bandits. We came back and paid under the impression that we’d have a full team even without having tryouts. Sadly many players who verbally committed to come back did not and it seems like numbers are getting lower and lower.

While my daughter and her close friends have paid, we are likely going to make the call to move to another club. My fear is that with one year left, this could hurt her. Friends from other clubs said that being on 91 of bandits was already a set back. So maybe moving is still a better option than staying on a tram falling apart with coaches and an organization we aren’t finding any success with?

Now that tryouts are over, I also fear that there aren’t any other spots left for her let alone her friends. Are there any 23 teams with open spots?

Im torn on what to do and would love advice from other parents in navigating this. Is it worth it to stick it out and risk this team folding (from talking to other parents it seems many are secretly planning their departure.) does anyone know of skilled 23 teams with spots open?

Any advice or input would help. This is my first run around with recruiting and my husband and I are worried.

No matter what this is a tough situation. I’d leave 91. If the team is on the verge of folding, you should secure a spot elsewhere before there are none.


Agreed. Also have hear that the team is likely going downhill. You were in a bad place to begin with being bandits then 91. No good recruits coming out of there. Good luck in your search for a new team!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.

While all you guys are laser focused on Strong Island, looks like a middie from Delaware just committed to BC. Also while you jokers are fighting about team rankings, it looks like her club team was ranked 31. Guess those rankings don't matter after all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.

While all you guys are laser focused on Strong Island, looks like a middie from Delaware just committed to BC. Also while you jokers are fighting about team rankings, it looks like her club team was ranked 31. Guess those rankings don't matter after all.

Ha... you are correct, the ranking do not matter at all. It has been said many times, there will be a lot of delusional parents getting a wake up call when they realize that the offers from the top 10 - 20 programs are not coming.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.

While all you guys are laser focused on Strong Island, looks like a middie from Delaware just committed to BC. Also while you jokers are fighting about team rankings, it looks like her club team was ranked 31. Guess those rankings don't matter after all.

Ha... you are correct, the ranking do not matter at all. It has been said many times, there will be a lot of delusional parents getting a wake up call when they realize that the offers from the top 10 - 20 programs are not coming.

Or maybe they are coming and the girls are taking their time before making an all important decision? You will always see a couple girls from low ranking programs commit to great schools. But the top half of the rosters of YJ, TG, Jesters, and Legacy will all commit to big time schools. Give it a month.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.

While all you guys are laser focused on Strong Island, looks like a middie from Delaware just committed to BC. Also while you jokers are fighting about team rankings, it looks like her club team was ranked 31. Guess those rankings don't matter after all.

Ha... you are correct, the ranking do not matter at all. It has been said many times, there will be a lot of delusional parents getting a wake up call when they realize that the offers from the top 10 - 20 programs are not coming.

Or maybe they are coming and the girls are taking their time before making an all important decision? You will always see a couple girls from low ranking programs commit to great schools. But the top half of the rosters of YJ, TG, Jesters, and Legacy will all commit to big time schools. Give it a month.

The Top half? Do you really believe that there will be 50 plus girls from Long Island committing to “Big Time” schools? I guess you would have to define “big time”. My guess is more like half that number, maybe 20 - 25 to what most would define as Big Time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:41 PM
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your thinking is too simple. BC would love to have both middies and top players relish the opportunity to play with other elite players they don't shy away from competition. Teams also play with 4-6 middies. Heck, UNC had 3 #1 middies last year. BC also has plenty of talent in their 2022 and 2021 classes. Unless they have a specific niche need like goalie or lefty attacker they will get the best talent they can regardless of position.

While all you guys are laser focused on Strong Island, looks like a middie from Delaware just committed to BC. Also while you jokers are fighting about team rankings, it looks like her club team was ranked 31. Guess those rankings don't matter after all.

Ha... you are correct, the ranking do not matter at all. It has been said many times, there will be a lot of delusional parents getting a wake up call when they realize that the offers from the top 10 - 20 programs are not coming.

Or maybe they are coming and the girls are taking their time before making an all important decision? You will always see a couple girls from low ranking programs commit to great schools. But the top half of the rosters of YJ, TG, Jesters, and Legacy will all commit to big time schools. Give it a month.

Yes they will.because they are very good players, not because of their clubs rank.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....
22's were not on campuses during recruiting last fall (Fall of 2020). Everything started shutting down the Winter of 2020. No coaches could come to any of their summer tournaments Summer 2020. That's why the 22 class recruited quicker. 23's have the ability to go to official visits, 22's did not
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 04:57 PM
Where were able to see the Delaware player who committed to BC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....
22's were not on campuses during recruiting last fall (Fall of 2020). Everything started shutting down the Winter of 2020. No coaches could come to any of their summer tournaments Summer 2020. That's why the 22 class recruited quicker. 23's have the ability to go to official visits, 22's did not

My daughter is a 22 and we did get to go to campuses before she committed. She committed on September 4th. She had a lot of interested at under armour summer of 2019 and also in the fall tournaments of 2019. We did clinics and admission tours during the winter of 2020 (before covid). ALthough coaches couldnt attend the summer of 2020, they did watch her highlight videos and watched her team play through live stream at some showcases as well as via her club games that were available on eventbeacon. The coaches had communicated with her club recruiting director prior to 9/1/2020 and she had even received emails from some interested schools asking for her resume, a recruiting questionnaire that was more indepth than the regular online one, etc... She knew where she was going on Sept 1st. It just took a couple days to nail down the specifics. Same for her friends/teammates. The 2023 class did have the benefit of coaches at their games and clinics on campus. It's been super slow so far for the 2023s compared to the 2022s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 06:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.

Let's keep some perspective folks. My kids were throwing the ball around in a local park last week and an older couple asked them what the game they were playing was called. For the majority of the population there is no such thing as big time lacrosse. Love the game, respect the game, enjoy the time you have left playing the game, most of all GET A THE BEST EDUCATION YOU CAN.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 06:20 PM
The number 1 recruit is the attacker from Grizzlies...and I’m a YJ parent. Perhaps YJ or Jester girl (or someone else) after that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 06:37 PM
Agreed. That list basically sums it up. Clemson’s New program could be financially Very attractive to some and on the other end, a Yale, Harvard or Brown education is nothing to sneeze at-but....but neither are Big Time Lax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The number 1 recruit is the attacker from Grizzlies...and I’m a YJ parent. Perhaps YJ or Jester girl (or someone else) after that.

I actually thought the #1 recruit was a middie from M&D Black who used to play for Heros. At least that is what was said on the UA Next Platform show that was on ESPNU last week. It had athletes from all different sports and there was a Maryland player from M&D who was touted as the number one 2023 women's lacrosse recruit. I had to research who she was and saw she played for M&D this year but had played for Heros Green years prior. I am not trying to be mean here - just what I saw last week. I had come upon the show by accident but found it to be a very interesting concept and great marketing by Under Armour.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.

Big Time…

ACC: BC, UNC, Syracuse, UVA, Notre Dame

B1G: Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State…Hopkins … (Michigan much improved, let’s see if they can consistently be Top 20)

Ivy: Princeton, Penn (Dartmouth looked good in 19’ let’s see if new coach can make it 3 Ivy’s)

PAC 12: USC, Stanford (can Colorado and Arizona State make the jump)

Patriot: Loyal (Navy has had a couple of great seasons)

CAA: JMU

AAC: Florida

AE: Stony Brook

Big East: Georgetown has dropped off over the years great school solid program, big time?? Denver has certainly been making noise.

There are somewhere between 15 & 20 “Big Time” programs. These are programs that are consistently Top 20 and in some cases Top 10.

We all know which programs they are, they are competitive among Top 10-20 programs each and every year. It is the exception not the rule if one of these teams is not ranked at the end of the season. We are not talking about the other way around. These are teams that consistently make the NCAA Tournament without having to win their conference, they are not a flash in the pan.

Not trying to knock or diminish any programs, just looking at history, results and reality. There are some programs that are positioned better than others to consistently crack the Top 20:
Michigan is my odds on favorite, they have all the pieces, just need to become more consistent at getting top talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 07:01 PM
Lots of big official visits going on this weekend and next. I think we will see a flurry of commitments. My daughter has 4 that she is deciding from. Hearing the same from several others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 07:41 PM
"I think we will see a flurry of commitments. My daughter has 4 that she is deciding from. "

You're probably the dad I've been avoiding on the sidelines for the past 8 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.

Let's keep some perspective folks. My kids were throwing the ball around in a local park last week and an older couple asked them what the game they were playing was called. For the majority of the population there is no such thing as big time lacrosse. Love the game, respect the game, enjoy the time you have left playing the game, most of all GET A THE BEST EDUCATION YOU CAN.

Oh stop. We all know which programs are considered big time and just about all of them are excellent schools where a player can get a great education. Most understand that education comes first so when you look at the perennial Top 10 -20 programs (the big time) obviously the top recruits can select a school that has excellent academics as well.

There is always someone trying to diminish a player, program, school even the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 08:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.

Let's keep some perspective folks. My kids were throwing the ball around in a local park last week and an older couple asked them what the game they were playing was called. For the majority of the population there is no such thing as big time lacrosse. Love the game, respect the game, enjoy the time you have left playing the game, most of all GET A THE BEST EDUCATION YOU CAN.

Oh stop. We all know which programs are considered big time and just about all of them are excellent schools where a player can get a great education. Most understand that education comes first so when you look at the perennial Top 10 -20 programs (the big time) obviously the top recruits can select a school that has excellent academics as well.

There is always someone trying to diminish a player, program, school even the sport.

Problem is that you can’t have real National Championship contender and a top 10 Academic school because you need to prioritize one or the other with exception of NU. You either choose a BC, UNC, MD, Cuse which are excellent schools and have a real strong shot at a NC in 4 years. Or you choose a Duke, ND, Stanford, JH, Princeton, Penn, who have top academics and a chance to break through to a final 4, and possible championship. I’m talking hypothetically for the absolute top recruits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The number 1 recruit is the attacker from Grizzlies...and I’m a YJ parent. Perhaps YJ or Jester girl (or someone else) after that.

I actually thought the #1 recruit was a middie from M&D Black who used to play for Heros. At least that is what was said on the UA Next Platform show that was on ESPNU last week. It had athletes from all different sports and there was a Maryland player from M&D who was touted as the number one 2023 women's lacrosse recruit. I had to research who she was and saw she played for M&D this year but had played for Heros Green years prior. I am not trying to be mean here - just what I saw last week. I had come upon the show by accident but found it to be a very interesting concept and great marketing by Under Armour.
Top 23 recruit is from CT Grizzlies, #2 from Skywalkers…no M&D Player even in the Top 20
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your saying that Boston College, JMU and of course Navy and Army aren't big time schools? That is where the 2023 commits have come from thus far. Laughable... There were many more 2022 commits at this point. And many were able to get on campus and clinics prior to Covid's impact (Fall 2020, Winter 2021) so you can't use that as an excuse. I think there are going to be many surprises for the 2023 parents....

Looks like the definition of “big time” has a different meaning to different people… IMHO Big Time would be Boston College, UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Florida, Virginia, Duke, Penn, Notre Dame, JMU, Penn State, USC, Stanford and maybe a couple of others. Army & Navy are in there own category for the incredible individuals who choose to go that route. Stony Brook is a Top 10 Program but is not for everyone.

Agree "big time" means different things to different people. There are Elite Teams, which many of those would be on the list. Drawing another analogy from FB, there are probably 5 "power" conferences in wlax (ACC, Big Ten, Pac 12, Ivy, CAA) and about a half dozen other schools from other conferences that fall around there. Your top 25 rankings each week will generally feature teams from these schools. Yes, some in the conferences are better than others and have year-in, year-out chances at a NC, but most would agree that if you are competing at the top of the league in these conferences, you are a top 25 team. So girls going to schools in these leagues have the ability to play on nationally ranked teams if things go well (even if not realistic odds to win a NC). That may be a better barometer of "big time", where those regularly competing for NC are likely "elite". "Big time" schools can get ranked and compete occasionally in the national mix, but the "elite" are there regularly.

Let's keep some perspective folks. My kids were throwing the ball around in a local park last week and an older couple asked them what the game they were playing was called. For the majority of the population there is no such thing as big time lacrosse. Love the game, respect the game, enjoy the time you have left playing the game, most of all GET A THE BEST EDUCATION YOU CAN.

Oh stop. We all know which programs are considered big time and just about all of them are excellent schools where a player can get a great education. Most understand that education comes first so when you look at the perennial Top 10 -20 programs (the big time) obviously the top recruits can select a school that has excellent academics as well.

There is always someone trying to diminish a player, program, school even the sport.

Problem is that you can’t have real National Championship contender and a top 10 Academic school because you need to prioritize one or the other with exception of NU. You either choose a BC, UNC, MD, Cuse which are excellent schools and have a real strong shot at a NC in 4 years. Or you choose a Duke, ND, Stanford, JH, Princeton, Penn, who have top academics and a chance to break through to a final 4, and possible championship. I’m talking hypothetically for the absolute top recruits.

I would say if you are prioritizing winning a National Championship over a Top 10 academic school your priorities are screwed up. That said, you have no idea what programs out of that top 10-15 programs will win their first or be back for another. It took UNC 18 or 19 years to win their first, BC took a while, Been a long time since Northwestern, Princeton, UVA or Penn State have won. Syracuse has not won, Duke has never won, Notre Dame has not won, Stony Brook has not won. Obviously Stanford and Penn have not Won. JMU has Proven that if you can compete with the elite , you can win a NC if all the right pieces are in place. BTW, BC doesn’t win last year without their transfers and UNC had the most talented roster and didn’t get it done.
Seedling in the tournament plays a huge role as well.

The vast majority of top recruits go to those top programs every year, I would say if the stars align any of the top 20-15 programs could win.

I think for the majority of top recruits finances play more of a role than the chance at winning a NC. Also, keep in mind not all of the top recruits have the grades for all of the top programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The number 1 recruit is the attacker from Grizzlies...and I’m a YJ parent. Perhaps YJ or Jester girl (or someone else) after that.

I actually thought the #1 recruit was a middie from M&D Black who used to play for Heros. At least that is what was said on the UA Next Platform show that was on ESPNU last week. It had athletes from all different sports and there was a Maryland player from M&D who was touted as the number one 2023 women's lacrosse recruit. I had to research who she was and saw she played for M&D this year but had played for Heros Green years prior. I am not trying to be mean here - just what I saw last week. I had come upon the show by accident but found it to be a very interesting concept and great marketing by Under Armour.
Top 23 recruit is from CT Grizzlies, #2 from Skywalkers…no M&D Player even in the Top 20

That’s funny. Sorry, Skywalkers have no girls in the top 10. I agree with Grizzlies. Speaking of rankings, why are these girls not ranked?? Boys are! Horrible how girls are treated in sports. Lazy rankers will base it on where and when girls commit. What a joke!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 10:33 PM
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The number 1 recruit is the attacker from Grizzlies...and I’m a YJ parent. Perhaps YJ or Jester girl (or someone else) after that.

I actually thought the #1 recruit was a middie from M&D Black who used to play for Heros. At least that is what was said on the UA Next Platform show that was on ESPNU last week. It had athletes from all different sports and there was a Maryland player from M&D who was touted as the number one 2023 women's lacrosse recruit. I had to research who she was and saw she played for M&D this year but had played for Heros Green years prior. I am not trying to be mean here - just what I saw last week. I had come upon the show by accident but found it to be a very interesting concept and great marketing by Under Armour.
Top 23 recruit is from CT Grizzlies, #2 from Skywalkers…no M&D Player even in the Top 20

That’s funny. Sorry, Skywalkers have no girls in the top 10. I agree with Grizzlies. Speaking of rankings, why are these girls not ranked?? Boys are! Horrible how girls are treated in sports. Lazy rankers will base it on where and when girls commit. What a joke!

If the player is a top tier recruit they will be receiving offers from top 10 caliber programs shortly if they have not received them already.

The recruit rankings usually come out around this time of year and traditionally IL has done a great job.

BTW, does it really matter whether the list comes out a little before or after some kids commit to some of the top programs? If top 10 caliber programs are offering this early the player is obviously a top recruit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/07/21 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Congrats.. she’s a beast and deserves it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 12:24 AM
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

Lol, there a few very good players on that list mixed with very average players. Most of the better players are not on that list. smh?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

Give me a break! That poll and publication is a total joke. I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity - even when you pay for it.

There are few local MD girls, naturally gifted, and aggressive girls on SW and I hope they start committing soon! I cant wait to see where my favorite goes!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:41 AM
While that list has the Grizzlie girl appropriately list first, it is in no way even close to or suggest to be a “ranking”. Just a watch list. Not a single YJ Middie or attack. The YJ girl going to BC not on there an amazing an example, and I’m not even a fan of hers. The Jesters girl from TG was speculated on here for BC. This list-not ranking has her...about 10 names down.

Ultimately-each list consists of 1 name, that of your daughter!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class
you have to register or apply to that list. that kid gets made fun of by girls on her team. she isn’t even top 5 on SW
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 04:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

OMG lol… This isn’t even a ranking - just a 23 watchlist and a complete joke one at that. If you knew any of these 23’s you would know that! Inside Lacrosse will have the real rankings soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 04:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 12:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 12:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

I think because a claim was made that was pretty bizarre. Talk to me when the actual rankings come out. Until then, go away
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

** "Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there."**

The jealousy never ends.... too many people with jealousy, bitterness and envy.... Tearing down players, programs, decisions in an effort to elevate your daughter, her program or her decision never works, it always makes you look small, weak and insecure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

** "Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there."**

The jealousy never ends.... too many people with jealousy, bitterness and envy.... Tearing down players, programs, decisions in an effort to elevate your daughter, her program or her decision never works, it always makes you look small, weak and insecure.

Lol, Stanford dad. Nobody is tearing down the school. It’s the right choice for some. Also, nobody transfers out schools like Stanford, even if it’s not everything they thought it would be. There is life beyond lacrosse. Stop being so mad that top recruits aren’t choosing that school and be happy that your daughter is getting a great education. This is a lacrosse forum, not a “best school” forum. The lacrosse experience is a very real consideration for the very top players. That’s why they go to UNC, MD, and BC. They have better lacrosse programs while providing an excellent education. Seems like it’s you tearing down those schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Older sister at Stanford is literally cream of the crop. Best attack in the 2020 class (in spite of ILWomen having her as #3 attack, which is still elite) according to my daughter who has played with or against most of the top 50 girls at this point. Being on the west coast does make snagging the top players more challenging, but it is crazy to say they only get decent players. And no, I’m not a relative or Stanford parent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.

Ok there's another girl on that team with super-marketing mom too. Go home and play there. The girls will be much happier, plus its bad for their mental health just flying back and forth all of the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

I think because a claim was made that was pretty bizarre. Talk to me when the actual rankings come out. Until then, go away

The only rankings that actually matter are out... and they are starting to be made public. The best players are being offered spots by the top programs. The best players will receive multiple offers from the best (Top 5 /10/15 programs). The best programs are fighting for the best players. It is very simple, if a player is not being offered by the top programs, the player is not a top recruit. Receiving an email, phone call or an invitation to visit a top program is not the same thing as receiving an offer.

Reading some of the comments posted makes it very obvious that there are many first timers and or parents who who have no clue as to how the recruiting process works for the top recruits. There are maybe 40 - 50 legit "top" recruits out there and the best programs are always in the mix trying to get them. No single team will get all of the players at the top of their list. This is not a random process, the coaches have their priorities and they have the players ranked and they know how much scholarship $$ they will allocate to players based on where the player ranks on their list (they are also trying to figure out merit $$ and or need based $$ so they have an idea of the net cost for these players). News Flash... The number 1 recruit at a particular program gets more scholarship $$ then the number 8 recruit. In some cases you will see a player commit to a top program (before higher ranked players on the coaches list) if that player is not asking for a lot of $$$. You never know the full story....

We are currently in the first round of recruiting for the top programs and for the top recruits. Yes, I know that all programs are recruiting but the best players do not really consider all programs. The top 10 - 20 or so programs are diverse in many ways and the top players usually find a home at one of those programs. This is not intended to knock any program but it is rare to see a player receive offers from say Northwestern, Boston College, North Carolina, Duke, Princeton Virginia, Penn etc... and then choose to go to a non traditional Top 10 - 20 program like Uconn, Delaware, Brown, Columbia, Boston University etc...(all of which a solid programs and schools)... it can happen but it is the exception not the rule.

This nonsense about which player is #1 is a joke, if a player is ranked in the Top 40 and is being offered a spot by top 10 caliber programs in the early rounds that player is legit.

After the top players are all off the board, we will hear parents trying to justify their daughters decision to go to a school that is not traditionally a Top 10 - 15 program. Some parents will try to bash or diminish schools or programs all the while trying to pump up their daughter, her decision and her school/program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

That could be the single densest post that I have seen on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

I think because a claim was made that was pretty bizarre. Talk to me when the actual rankings come out. Until then, go away

The only rankings that actually matter are out... and they are starting to be made public. The best players are being offered spots by the top programs. The best players will receive multiple offers from the best (Top 5 /10/15 programs). The best programs are fighting for the best players. It is very simple, if a player is not being offered by the top programs, the player is not a top recruit. Receiving an email, phone call or an invitation to visit a top program is not the same thing as receiving an offer.

Reading some of the comments posted makes it very obvious that there are many first timers and or parents who who have no clue as to how the recruiting process works for the top recruits. There are maybe 40 - 50 legit "top" recruits out there and the best programs are always in the mix trying to get them. No single team will get all of the players at the top of their list. This is not a random process, the coaches have their priorities and they have the players ranked and they know how much scholarship $$ they will allocate to players based on where the player ranks on their list (they are also trying to figure out merit $$ and or need based $$ so they have an idea of the net cost for these players). News Flash... The number 1 recruit at a particular program gets more scholarship $$ then the number 8 recruit. In some cases you will see a player commit to a top program (before higher ranked players on the coaches list) if that player is not asking for a lot of $$$. You never know the full story....

We are currently in the first round of recruiting for the top programs and for the top recruits. Yes, I know that all programs are recruiting but the best players do not really consider all programs. The top 10 - 20 or so programs are diverse in many ways and the top players usually find a home at one of those programs. This is not intended to knock any program but it is rare to see a player receive offers from say Northwestern, Boston College, North Carolina, Duke, Princeton Virginia, Penn etc... and then choose to go to a non traditional Top 10 - 20 program like Uconn, Delaware, Brown, Columbia, Boston University etc...(all of which a solid programs and schools)... it can happen but it is the exception not the rule.

This nonsense about which player is #1 is a joke, if a player is ranked in the Top 40 and is being offered a spot by top 10 caliber programs in the early rounds that player is legit.

After the top players are all off the board, we will hear parents trying to justify their daughters decision to go to a school that is not traditionally a Top 10 - 15 program. Some parents will try to bash or diminish schools or programs all the while trying to pump up their daughter, her decision and her school/program.

Well said n informative
Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.

Um…how about the girls that weren’t marketed don’t want to be marketed because they are humble and dignified and it comes off as obnoxious, greedy and desperate when you literally pay to have OEM come out and create groovy highlight videos for you? Talk about feeling exposed. (extreme run on sentence I know)

(Natural)Talent.Always.Wins
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

Lol, there a few very good players on that list mixed with very average players. Most of the better players are not on that list. smh?

I have a lot of questions about this list and it’s originator. LacrosseMagazine doesn’t seem very legit, I feel like it’s complied by a kid in some basement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 07:58 PM
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class[/quote]

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands![/quote]
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.[/quote]

Ok there's another girl on that team with super-marketing mom too. Go home and play there. The girls will be much happier, plus its bad for their mental health just flying back and forth all of the time.[/quote]

Just curious - what is the acceptable amount of marketing according to the self righteous on this page? If your kid is from a non-traditional lacrosse region/not flying across the country to play with a well known program, how do you ensure your kid gets seen? I just listened to the IWLCA webinar on the recruiting process and the college coaches all said that they will miss players - good players - because they can't be at every tournament, etc. Talented kids will be missed unless they market themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 09:15 PM
To talk from experience going on right now with my 2023, she has been reached out to by roughly 50% of the top ranked div 1 teams. We have just started the process of working on dates to go visit some of these schools. It isn't a quick process and will take a few weeks. We have not been pressured at all to make any decisions. Right now the coaches are really just working on getting visits scheduled and this scheduling will take a few weeks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To talk from experience going on right now with my 2023, she has been reached out to by roughly 50% of the top ranked div 1 teams. We have just started the process of working on dates to go visit some of these schools. It isn't a quick process and will take a few weeks. We have not been pressured at all to make any decisions. Right now the coaches are really just working on getting visits scheduled and this scheduling will take a few weeks.

How many prospect camps did your daughter do? Do you feel they were important to do? Sounds like she got some great attention from D1 schools! Do you think it was from showcase tournaments or prospect camps? Congratulations to your daughter and good luck! . TIA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 09:56 PM
Why do parents feel the need to go on here & say “she was contacted by “x” amount of schools, she was contacted by 50% of top D1 schools, she had “x” amount of offers”?? These are things you DONT need to make known…you aren’t helping anyone except pounding your own chest..make you feel better I guess?!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Another person who just pops off with nonsense... I didn't know so I checked...

Below are the Final Rankings from 2019. Each year there are 48 All-Americans, I would say they would be the cream of the crop... to the right of each team is how many All-Americans the team had.

1 - Maryland - 7

2 - Boston College - 4

3 - North Carolina - 4

4 - Northwestern - 3

5 - Syracuse - 1

6 - Princeton - 3

7 - Virginia - 2

8 - Denver - 2

9 - Notre Dame - 3

10 - Loyola - 4

11 - Michigan - 0

12 - Stony Brook - 1

13 - Florida - 4

14 - Penn - 2

15 - James Madison - 1

16 - Navy - 1

17 - Southern California - 1

18 - Georgetown - 1

19 - Colorado - 0

20 - Dartmouth - 1

21 - Duke - 1

22 - Johns Hopkins - 0

23 - Stanford - 0

24 - High Point - 0

25 - Virginia Tech - 0


You may be correct in terms of Stanford not getting many high end recruits but they are a very competitive program that finishes in the Top 20 - 25 most years. I don't think anyone on this site puts The Cardinal up there with MD, BC, UNC etc... but they are certainly one of the Top 20 - 25 programs.

As for Princeton and Penn, they obviously hold their own and are arguably two of the Top 10 programs. Couple of surprises were Florida and Loyola with 4 AA's siting behind a number of teams that outperformed them that year.

Syracuse was a shock with only 1 AA, I guess they were a young team in 2019.

Denver and Michigan appear to be two of the up and coming programs.

Two Programs that each had an All-American but did not finish the season ranked were Hofstra and Towson.

Surprising that Penn State was not Ranked and did not have any All-Americans.

With the exception of Penn State it looks like the usual suspects finished in the Top 15 and had the lions share of All-Americans. The formula seems pretty simple, recruit the best players and you will have a very strong team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 10:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/08/21 11:05 PM
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.[/quote]

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To talk from experience going on right now with my 2023, she has been reached out to by roughly 50% of the top ranked div 1 teams. We have just started the process of working on dates to go visit some of these schools. It isn't a quick process and will take a few weeks. We have not been pressured at all to make any decisions. Right now the coaches are really just working on getting visits scheduled and this scheduling will take a few weeks.

How many prospect camps did your daughter do? Do you feel they were important to do? Sounds like she got some great attention from D1 schools! Do you think it was from showcase tournaments or prospect camps? Congratulations to your daughter and good luck! . TIA

She only did summer club lacrosse. Now she is on one of the top club teams so she got lots of exposure. I say this to tell people that it will take weeks to just get through the first round of players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt[/quote]

Is that your best little lamb. Truth hurts. Stanford’s rep is falling as is its wlax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt[/quote]


I agree with horse’s butt assessment but what’s with the ivermectin reference?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt


I agree with horse’s butt assessment but what’s with the ivermectin reference?[/quote]

the poster's need to virtue signal his stance on Covid ("obedience masks") made me think he's probably a fan of ivermectin...which is used on large animals...so I figured maybe that's why he's acting like a horse...'s butt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 03:31 AM
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 10:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously
You shouldn’t pick lax over academics. Are the choices really that bad academically? Or just not to your standard? I wasn’t aware that any school would not be well academically
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

If she’s that smart let her get into the school academically and reach out to the coach once she’s there. Coaches at good schools love walk on’s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

Have you reached out to the schools that your daughter is interested in?

It is very important to make sure that all of the coaches (head coach & assistants) at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of your daughters genuine interest and desire to attend the school.

Ask your Club Director and HS Coach to reach out to the schools as well.

What level of lacrosse would you say the schools that have expressed interest are? Look for better academic schools that are of similar lacrosse level to the schools that have reached out.

Don't panic or get too stressed (do your best to help your daughter do the same). The process has just begun.

Develop a plan.....

Go to NCAA Women's Lacrosse website, select DI, click on rankings, Select RPI . There you will see all of the schools that offer Division I women's lacrosse. (you can do the same for DII & DIII as well)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-women/d1/ncaa-womens-lacrosse-rpi

Make a list of all the schools that your thinks she would be interested in and develop a strategy to "market" your daughter to the coaches at those schools. You do not want to be a pest but you want to make it known that your daughter would like to play for them.

Keep in mind, if your daughter has excellent grades she may be able to get a lot of academic $$ from schools that you feel are below her academically.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt


I agree with horse’s butt assessment but what’s with the ivermectin reference?

the poster's need to virtue signal his stance on Covid ("obedience masks") made me think he's probably a fan of ivermectin...which is used on large animals...so I figured maybe that's why he's acting like a horse...'s butt.[/quote]

Typical response by a low IQ individual. Stanford has had recruiting scandals, academic scandals and currently has mandates that are not science based. But at least you tried to sound intelligent and looked up how to spell ivermectin.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt[/quote]

It obvious this clown poster , would never have had the intelligence to go to a school like Stanford! I doubt his/her kid does either!? Probably partying it up in Florida or Alabama! Indoor parties with lots of beer pong and no mask! Woo hoo !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

I would love for my DD to fall into this category.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

Have you reached out to the schools that your daughter is interested in?

It is very important to make sure that all of the coaches (head coach & assistants) at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of your daughters genuine interest and desire to attend the school.

Ask your Club Director and HS Coach to reach out to the schools as well.

What level of lacrosse would you say the schools that have expressed interest are? Look for better academic schools that are of similar lacrosse level to the schools that have reached out.

Don't panic or get too stressed (do your best to help your daughter do the same). The process has just begun.

Develop a plan.....

Go to NCAA Women's Lacrosse website, select DI, click on rankings, Select RPI . There you will see all of the schools that offer Division I women's lacrosse. (you can do the same for DII & DIII as well)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-women/d1/ncaa-womens-lacrosse-rpi

Make a list of all the schools that your thinks she would be interested in and develop a strategy to "market" your daughter to the coaches at those schools. You do not want to be a pest but you want to make it known that your daughter would like to play for them.

Keep in mind, if your daughter has excellent grades she may be able to get a lot of academic $$ from schools that you feel are below her academically.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

One of the best posts recently!
This is really good helpful info.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 01:13 PM
Please advise:
Daughter has gotten many prospect day invites but with the pace of recruiting the 23’s this year I feel as if this is just “Round One Prospect Days”
Then in the break between winter and spring schools will do another “Round 2 Prospect Days” and then want to take a look at the kids after spring. When will this cycle end?!?!?! And I’m talking good players from good areas, just not the top 30. That’s a lot of money to blow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands![/quote]
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.[/quote]

Ok there's another girl on that team with super-marketing mom too. Go home and play there. The girls will be much happier, plus its bad for their mental health just flying back and forth all of the time.[/quote]

Just curious - what is the acceptable amount of marketing according to the self righteous on this page? If your kid is from a non-traditional lacrosse region/not flying across the country to play with a well known program, how do you ensure your kid gets seen? I just listened to the IWLCA webinar on the recruiting process and the college coaches all said that they will miss players - good players - because they can't be at every tournament, etc. Talented kids will be missed unless they market themselves.[/quote]

Ok Mom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please advise:
Daughter has gotten many prospect day invites but with the pace of recruiting the 23’s this year I feel as if this is just “Round One Prospect Days”
Then in the break between winter and spring schools will do another “Round 2 Prospect Days” and then want to take a look at the kids after spring. When will this cycle end?!?!?! And I’m talking good players from good areas, just not the top 30. That’s a lot of money to blow.
Agreed. I’ll be interested to see what happens after the prospect day. Seems like a lot will be riding on performance there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great places to go. Cmon man. Stanford has banned indoor parties and must put obedience mask on outdoors. All that so your daughter can get her gender studies major. Oh yea and play mediocre lax. Enjoy that.

Lay off the ivermectin...you're sounding like a horse's butt


I agree with horse’s butt assessment but what’s with the ivermectin reference?

the poster's need to virtue signal his stance on Covid ("obedience masks") made me think he's probably a fan of ivermectin...which is used on large animals...so I figured maybe that's why he's acting like a horse...'s butt.

Typical response by a low IQ individual. Stanford has had recruiting scandals, academic scandals and currently has mandates that are not science based. But at least you tried to sound intelligent and looked up how to spell ivermectin.[/quote]

Typical response from a “Qoolaid” drinker!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

Have you reached out to the schools that your daughter is interested in?

It is very important to make sure that all of the coaches (head coach & assistants) at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of your daughters genuine interest and desire to attend the school.

Ask your Club Director and HS Coach to reach out to the schools as well.

What level of lacrosse would you say the schools that have expressed interest are? Look for better academic schools that are of similar lacrosse level to the schools that have reached out.

Don't panic or get too stressed (do your best to help your daughter do the same). The process has just begun.

Develop a plan.....

Go to NCAA Women's Lacrosse website, select DI, click on rankings, Select RPI . There you will see all of the schools that offer Division I women's lacrosse. (you can do the same for DII & DIII as well)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-women/d1/ncaa-womens-lacrosse-rpi

Make a list of all the schools that your thinks she would be interested in and develop a strategy to "market" your daughter to the coaches at those schools. You do not want to be a pest but you want to make it known that your daughter would like to play for them.

Keep in mind, if your daughter has excellent grades she may be able to get a lot of academic $$ from schools that you feel are below her academically.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

Thank you for this post! Very helpful and very sound advice. So glad to see this kind of helpful post on BOTC. Really appreciate the info. And positivity in the post.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/10/21 09:43 PM
What I've learned so far during this recruiting time:

Camps were a waste of money and time. The camps my daughter went to did not really pan out the way we expected. While other schools that people said "they only recruit from camps" came on hot.

Some schools drag their feet a bit, not sure why. Kind of a turn off when you have other equivalent schools reaching out offering visits, while they just stay "in the loop".

I am surprised that more girls have not committed yet, but it is also refreshing that girls are not jumping at their first offer. This will benefit all, because the girls can see schools and then pick the one that they feel best suit their needs without feeling pressure seeing tons of others committing to the first school that offers.

The experience has been great and I am confident my daughter will find school that checks all the boxes if she is patient with the process.

How is everyone else doing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 02:35 AM
I predict some commitments after this weekend. The top girl’s have been visiting and will be at official visits tomorrow. Offers made last week will be accepted and there will be announcements Sunday and Monday.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 03:04 AM
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 03:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

Have you reached out to the schools that your daughter is interested in?

It is very important to make sure that all of the coaches (head coach & assistants) at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of your daughters genuine interest and desire to attend the school.

Ask your Club Director and HS Coach to reach out to the schools as well.

What level of lacrosse would you say the schools that have expressed interest are? Look for better academic schools that are of similar lacrosse level to the schools that have reached out.

Don't panic or get too stressed (do your best to help your daughter do the same). The process has just begun.

Develop a plan.....

Go to NCAA Women's Lacrosse website, select DI, click on rankings, Select RPI . There you will see all of the schools that offer Division I women's lacrosse. (you can do the same for DII & DIII as well)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-women/d1/ncaa-womens-lacrosse-rpi

Make a list of all the schools that your thinks she would be interested in and develop a strategy to "market" your daughter to the coaches at those schools. You do not want to be a pest but you want to make it known that your daughter would like to play for them.

Keep in mind, if your daughter has excellent grades she may be able to get a lot of academic $$ from schools that you feel are below her academically.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

Thank you for this post! Very helpful and very sound advice. So glad to see this kind of helpful post on BOTC. Really appreciate the info. And positivity in the post.

Great advice above. My daughter had the same exact problem when she started the recruiting process. Your daughter will really need to advocate for herself to the specific schools she is interested in. This includes everything mentioned above. I cannot stress enough though the fact that she will need to market herself and also have her club and high school coach advocate for her as well. My daughter had done many camps over the years and had made many all star teams. She had been a part of the Under Armour Underclass and National Lacrosse Classic games. She was a starter for a club team that played in the top bracket at tournaments and is also a starter for a nationally ranked high school team. It’s still not super easy to get recruited to a school that you want to attend and that is a match for your daughter in all aspects. Just keep plugging away and don’t settle for less. My daughter did end up committing to a school that was an all around match but it took longer and was definitely a lot harder than we had anticipated. Patience and persistence is key.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 03:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I predict some commitments after this weekend. The top girl’s have been visiting and will be at official visits tomorrow. Offers made last week will be accepted and there will be announcements Sunday and Monday.

Can you give me tonight’s lotto numbers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I predict some commitments after this weekend. The top girl’s have been visiting and will be at official visits tomorrow. Offers made last week will be accepted and there will be announcements Sunday and Monday.

Of course there will be a few, but many "top" girls have not seen all the schools that they're interested in, so I think the first week of October will be the big week for most commitments. I'm actually surprised some rushed into committing so fast, unless it was their number one dream school. I just don't know how you actually know if a school is the "dream school' unless maybe the girl had been to camps at a bunch of schools. My daughter didn't do camps, so we need to see the schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What if your not happy with the colleges that have been reaching out? Seriously.... my kid is super smart but the options that she is being given so far is well below her academics? yet she wants to play help seriously

Have you reached out to the schools that your daughter is interested in?

It is very important to make sure that all of the coaches (head coach & assistants) at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of your daughters genuine interest and desire to attend the school.

Ask your Club Director and HS Coach to reach out to the schools as well.

What level of lacrosse would you say the schools that have expressed interest are? Look for better academic schools that are of similar lacrosse level to the schools that have reached out.

Don't panic or get too stressed (do your best to help your daughter do the same). The process has just begun.

Develop a plan.....

Go to NCAA Women's Lacrosse website, select DI, click on rankings, Select RPI . There you will see all of the schools that offer Division I women's lacrosse. (you can do the same for DII & DIII as well)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/lacrosse-women/d1/ncaa-womens-lacrosse-rpi

Make a list of all the schools that your thinks she would be interested in and develop a strategy to "market" your daughter to the coaches at those schools. You do not want to be a pest but you want to make it known that your daughter would like to play for them.

Keep in mind, if your daughter has excellent grades she may be able to get a lot of academic $$ from schools that you feel are below her academically.

Hope that was somewhat helpful.

Thank you for this post! Very helpful and very sound advice. So glad to see this kind of helpful post on BOTC. Really appreciate the info. And positivity in the post.

Great advice above. My daughter had the same exact problem when she started the recruiting process. Your daughter will really need to advocate for herself to the specific schools she is interested in. This includes everything mentioned above. I cannot stress enough though the fact that she will need to market herself and also have her club and high school coach advocate for her as well. My daughter had done many camps over the years and had made many all star teams. She had been a part of the Under Armour Underclass and National Lacrosse Classic games. She was a starter for a club team that played in the top bracket at tournaments and is also a starter for a nationally ranked high school team. It’s still not super easy to get recruited to a school that you want to attend and that is a match for your daughter in all aspects. Just keep plugging away and don’t settle for less. My daughter did end up committing to a school that was an all around match but it took longer and was definitely a lot harder than we had anticipated. Patience and persistence is key.

Agree, there are only 15 - 20 Long Island girls max that will truly have their pick of the Top 10-15 type schools right now. Most (even if they are receiving interest) will have to go through the process. It is also important to remember that your daughter is not operating in a vacuum, the decisions / choices that other players make can impact your daughters situation. Every time a player commits the landscape changes, it’s a very fluid situation. Remember, no single program gets all of their top ranked recruits. If your daughter is not one of those top 20 or so kids make sure you are proactive with her top targets, be persistent but don’t become a pest. Things change, a coach who is not willing to make an offer today may be ready tomorrow or next week or next month, you never know.
Be patient, persistent and positive. Also, keep an open mind and be willing to explore opportunities and possibilities that you did not think of or consider.
There are a lot of great places to go to school and play lacrosse. Enjoy the process/ ride.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 01:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I predict some commitments after this weekend. The top girl’s have been visiting and will be at official visits tomorrow. Offers made last week will be accepted and there will be announcements Sunday and Monday.

Of course there will be a few, but many "top" girls have not seen all the schools that they're interested in, so I think the first week of October will be the big week for most commitments. I'm actually surprised some rushed into committing so fast, unless it was their number one dream school. I just don't know how you actually know if a school is the "dream school' unless maybe the girl had been to camps at a bunch of schools. My daughter didn't do camps, so we need to see the schools.

Ok are these official visits or are they prospect days? We are doing a handful of prospect days but have no official visits that we have been invited to yet.
There is a difference, correct?

Good luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.

Oh, cut them a little slack... the have been much more obnoxious posts on this site. The parents and the kids who are getting attention are excited and while I agree that you should take others feelings into account I didn't think these posts were too bad. People should try not to offend anyone but people should also try to not be offended. I have seen direct attacks on individual players, the two posts you referenced were nothing like that.

Good luck to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.

You’re the one who sounds obnoxious. People want to their time to find the best fit. Why do you care so much? And you should hope my daughter doesn’t go to the school yours is at. Best players see the field as freshmen. I’m confident my daughter will be on the field, but she must earn it. Jrs. And Seniors don’t get a free pass. And FYI, the coaches all love us because we are honest and upfront about our expectations, as they are with theirs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 09:51 PM
Official visits are not camps. The recruit is no longer proving them self. They are given an itinerary for the visit which is designed to pull her in and impress. At this point they have been given an offer or will be given one during the visit. They want this recruit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Official visits are not camps. The recruit is no longer proving them self. They are given an itinerary for the visit which is designed to pull her in and impress. At this point they have been given an offer or will be given one during the visit. They want this recruit.

Exactly! And the top recruits are taking their 5 officials and then deciding. Camps are a scam. They may add 1-2 to a roster off camps, if even. They make money off a dream.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/12/21 12:28 AM
I definitely hope your daughter doesn’t end up at the same school as my daughter…lol. Your ego won’t fit in the stadium. My daughter actually did get to play her freshman year. She’s actually fairly well known in the women’s college arena and has gotten some good press in the lacrosse magazines this past season. She was super fortunate and she has worked hard to get there. She’s very modest though (as are we) and that makes her an excellent teammate. Remember, this is a team sport and in the end, every single player is replaceable, including my daughter. Remember that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.

You’re the one who sounds obnoxious. People want to their time to find the best fit. Why do you care so much? And you should hope my daughter doesn’t go to the school yours is at. Best players see the field as freshmen. I’m confident my daughter will be on the field, but she must earn it. Jrs. And Seniors don’t get a free pass. And FYI, the coaches all love us because we are honest and upfront about our expectations, as they are with theirs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/12/21 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Official visits are not camps. The recruit is no longer proving them self. They are given an itinerary for the visit which is designed to pull her in and impress. At this point they have been given an offer or will be given one during the visit. They want this recruit.

Exactly! And the top recruits are taking their 5 officials and then deciding. Camps are a scam. They may add 1-2 to a roster off camps, if even. They make money off a dream.

Painting with a broad brush.... you are correct though, for the top recruits there is no need to go to a camp at this stage of the game. However, if your daughter is not being pursued and being offered a spot going to a schools camp could be beneficial. Don't just go to any random camp though, if there is a particular school that your daughter is interested in try to see if there is genuine mutual interest from the coaching staff. Have your daughter email all coaches at the program and express her interest. Also, have her Club Director, high school coach and anyone else who has a relationship with the coaching staff (current players, former players etc..) to see if they have any interest in your daughter. Don't ask the coaches "should she go to the camp" just see if they know who she is on their list and if there is any interest. if the answers is yes than going to the camp might help.

Keep in mind, that right now many programs are fighting for the same girls, these are the players who are receiving offers, they are the players that the coaches have at the top of their lists. Coaches are casting their nets some smaller than others but they will all have to move down their list once girls start committing and coaches realize that they lost out on players that they wanted. In the past few months we have seen plenty of 22's committing to a variety of schools.

This is a process, not every player is going to receive offers from the likes of BC, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Penn State, Princeton, Virginia, Notre Dame, Penn, Duke, USC, Stanford etc... Players should reach but be realistic, as the process continues players and parents will start to see what level the player is by the level of programs that are willing to make an offer. Remember, there is a lot of opportunity at schools outside the 10 - 15 traditional powers. Do your best to help your daughter navigate this process by stying positive and helping her to find a good fit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 10:57 AM
Wonderful to see a few more of Long Island’s own committing this weekend. All great athletes and well deserved. Ian Proud of all you!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:19 PM
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:34 PM
Now that the first round of recruiting is underway - my D is getting all kinds of prospect mail. Just lots of ads for prospect days, not "personal" notes with the mail.
We have to go to these schools to even get considered or seen? "BU" wont take another step unless we go to the camp?

Schools wont be at any more tournaments or film is not good enough anymore? This hasn't even started yet and I'm ready to take a break from all of the mind games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now that the first round of recruiting is underway - my D is getting all kinds of prospect mail. Just lots of ads for prospect days, not "personal" notes with the mail.
We have to go to these schools to even get considered or seen? "BU" wont take another step unless we go to the camp?

Schools wont be at any more tournaments or film is not good enough anymore? This hasn't even started yet and I'm ready to take a break from all of the mind games.

It's part Money Grab and part the Coach has other players ranked higher than your daughter. It has not even been two full weeks and only a handful of girls have committed. If there is a school that you know your daughter absolutely would like to go to and the coaches are talking to her and expressing interest but not willing to commit maybe go to the camp and make sure the coaches know that it is her top choice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:06 PM
Sorry not familiar with this sight. I was talking about the other Jesters girl who is going to BC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Congratulations to ALL the LI girls starting to commit to some awesome colleges. Hoping they all find schools that will be great fits. So many wonderful talented girl lacrosse players from LI! You go GIRLS! Good luck to all of you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Unless of couse it was your kid LOL!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?

Just can't help yourself, can you? It never ends with some of you, the jealousy, bitterness and detest always comes through.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?

Just can't help yourself, can you? It never ends with some of you, the jealousy, bitterness and detest always comes through.

Haters will detest. They should post their name so they can hang their head in shame and receive the public ridicule they deserve
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:18 PM
I was talking about the other high ranked Jesters girl that committed to BC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.

Oh, cut them a little slack... the have been much more obnoxious posts on this site. The parents and the kids who are getting attention are excited and while I agree that you should take others feelings into account I didn't think these posts were too bad. People should try not to offend anyone but people should also try to not be offended. I have seen direct attacks on individual players, the two posts you referenced were nothing like that.

Good luck to all.

Agreed. its only obnoxious if the kids start posting their visits to their social media like many football and basketball players do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What I've learned so far during this recruiting time:

Camps were a waste of money and time. The camps my daughter went to did not really pan out the way we expected. While other schools that people said "they only recruit from camps" came on hot.

Some schools drag their feet a bit, not sure why. Kind of a turn off when you have other equivalent schools reaching out offering visits, while they just stay "in the loop".

I am surprised that more girls have not committed yet, but it is also refreshing that girls are not jumping at their first offer. This will benefit all, because the girls can see schools and then pick the one that they feel best suit their needs without feeling pressure seeing tons of others committing to the first school that offers.

The experience has been great and I am confident my daughter will find school that checks all the boxes if she is patient with the process.

How is everyone else doing?

Parent of a committed 22 and 24 so no skin in this year's game. One thing I will pass on is that our club recruiting director said that multiple ACC coaches have told her that this is the deepest recruiting class in the past 6 or 7 years. No ultraelite stars at the top, but more outstanding talent than she can remember.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Another person who just pops off with nonsense... I didn't know so I checked...

Below are the Final Rankings from 2019. Each year there are 48 All-Americans, I would say they would be the cream of the crop... to the right of each team is how many All-Americans the team had.

1 - Maryland - 7

2 - Boston College - 4

3 - North Carolina - 4

4 - Northwestern - 3

5 - Syracuse - 1

6 - Princeton - 3

7 - Virginia - 2

8 - Denver - 2

9 - Notre Dame - 3

10 - Loyola - 4

11 - Michigan - 0

12 - Stony Brook - 1

13 - Florida - 4

14 - Penn - 2

15 - James Madison - 1

16 - Navy - 1

17 - Southern California - 1

18 - Georgetown - 1

19 - Colorado - 0

20 - Dartmouth - 1

21 - Duke - 1

22 - Johns Hopkins - 0

23 - Stanford - 0

24 - High Point - 0

25 - Virginia Tech - 0


You may be correct in terms of Stanford not getting many high end recruits but they are a very competitive program that finishes in the Top 20 - 25 most years. I don't think anyone on this site puts The Cardinal up there with MD, BC, UNC etc... but they are certainly one of the Top 20 - 25 programs.

As for Princeton and Penn, they obviously hold their own and are arguably two of the Top 10 programs. Couple of surprises were Florida and Loyola with 4 AA's siting behind a number of teams that outperformed them that year.

Syracuse was a shock with only 1 AA, I guess they were a young team in 2019.

Denver and Michigan appear to be two of the up and coming programs.

Two Programs that each had an All-American but did not finish the season ranked were Hofstra and Towson.

Surprising that Penn State was not Ranked and did not have any All-Americans.

With the exception of Penn State it looks like the usual suspects finished in the Top 15 and had the lions share of All-Americans. The formula seems pretty simple, recruit the best players and you will have a very strong team.

Also remember that Stanford doesn't (can't) make academic exceptions that many other schools can especially in light of recent scandals. So like the Ivies, they are recruiting maybe 20% of top talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.

Agree with that. My point is that the coaches miss a lot on the talent that isn't "top tier" - which is quite a large number of coaches and kids. I also think these Top 15 programs cast a wide net and snag some girls that were overrated and wind up not contributing. Look at Stony Brook and Syracuse for two prime examples.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 09:38 PM
I think UNC and Maryland recruit a ton of players that have a ton of hype yet never see the field. Perhaps those players would have had a better college experience at a lesser name lacrosse school? Not that you hear them complaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 09:51 PM
Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.[/quote]

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.[/quote]

Agree with that. My point is that the coaches miss a lot on the talent that isn't "top tier" - which is quite a large number of coaches and kids. I also think these Top 15 programs cast a wide net and snag some girls that were overrated and wind up not contributing. Look at Stony Brook and Syracuse for two prime examples.[/quote]

Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think UNC and Maryland recruit a ton of players that have a ton of hype yet never see the field. Perhaps those players would have had a better college experience at a lesser name lacrosse school? Not that you hear them complaining.

Here we go again, what would make you post something so inaccurate?

UNC and MD do not recruit “a ton” of players. They go after a very small group of players and they bring in on average about 8 freshmen per year.

They do not recruit or offer spots or scholarship $$ based on “hype” the do it based off of what the coaches have watched with their own eyes, pretty sure they know what they like when they see it.

Most programs play between 15 -18 players in their competitive games, it doesn’t matter if it’s Marist or Maryland, Cornell or Carolina, not every player plays.

Also, keep in mind that not every recruit at a particular school is equal… the #1 recruit at Maryland is going to be better than the # 8 recruit at Maryland.

Just keep trying to make yourself feel better by trying to knock others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 11:51 PM
Is BOTC censoring posts? I have noticed some of my posts have not made it to the board. I do not believe the posts were offensive and I certainly didn’t call any players out. Can one of the moderators or TM chime in and explain.

Thank you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 01:02 AM
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

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Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.[/quote]

Agree with that. My point is that the coaches miss a lot on the talent that isn't "top tier" - which is quite a large number of coaches and kids. I also think these Top 15 programs cast a wide net and snag some girls that were overrated and wind up not contributing. Look at Stony Brook and Syracuse for two prime examples.[/quote]

Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her![/quote]

What????? they didn't spend a fortune doing every event under the sun. I'm baffled.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 09:08 PM
It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego

Lol, I don't know where you got your academic rankings, but this is the gold standard that came out yesterday. Way off from your rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 09:50 PM
Yes. It seems that way. Elizabeth Warren style
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 10:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

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Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego

Lol, I don't know where you got your academic rankings, but this is the gold standard that came out yesterday. Way off from your rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Does it really matter which list ?? All of the universities on the lists are excellent.

At a quick glance it looks like a total of 16 schools that offer DI Women's Lacrosse made one or both of the lists that means if girls are looking to use lacrosse to help them get into a great academic school maybe 120 players from around the country will have the opportunity.

If the player wants to go to a Top 20 caliber school as well as play for a top 20 caliber lacrosse program your looking at approximately 8 (in a given year) schools approximately 60 players from around the country will have that opportunity.

If the player wants the opportunity to go to a top 10 caliber school and a top 10 caliber lacrosse program there are maybe 4 or 5 schools (in a given year)so you are looking at approximately 30 - 35 players from around the country.

How many Long Island players have a realistic shot at go to play at one of these schools?

The large majority of players will not be going to schools on these lists that is just reality.

Try to find the best fit, there are a lot of great opportunities out there.

Good Luck to All
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego

Lol, I don't know where you got your academic rankings, but this is the gold standard that came out yesterday. Way off from your rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Does it really matter which list ?? All of the universities on the lists are excellent.

At a quick glance it looks like a total of 16 schools that offer DI Women's Lacrosse made one or both of the lists that means if girls are looking to use lacrosse to help them get into a great academic school maybe 120 players from around the country will have the opportunity.

If the player wants to go to a Top 20 caliber school as well as play for a top 20 caliber lacrosse program your looking at approximately 8 (in a given year) schools approximately 60 players from around the country will have that opportunity.

If the player wants the opportunity to go to a top 10 caliber school and a top 10 caliber lacrosse program there are maybe 4 or 5 schools (in a given year)so you are looking at approximately 30 - 35 players from around the country.

How many Long Island players have a realistic shot at go to play at one of these schools?

The large majority of players will not be going to schools on these lists that is just reality.

Try to find the best fit, there are a lot of great opportunities out there.

Good Luck to All


The only schools that offer top 10 lacrosse and top 10 academics are Northwestern. Oh yea, just one. Close contenders are Princeton, Penn, Duke. Close and looking in are Hopkins, Stanford.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 11:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 12:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 12:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?

The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?
YOU! Making the UA team DOES NOT mean you aren’t a TOP player..enough already! When are people going to realize UA isn’t what it used to be! By any means!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 12:52 AM
Top lacrosse and academics is all well and good. Here is another list ,Top 20 party schools, some have pretty good lacrosse and academics as well!

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/top-party-schools/
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?
YOU! Making the UA team DOES NOT mean you aren’t a TOP player..enough already! When are people going to realize UA isn’t what it used to be! By any means!

Lol, it kind of does. Especially because they were committed 22’s outplayed by ‘23s. Not a good look
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?

The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!

Correction…. UA team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?

The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!

Correction…. UA team

It's only a "joke" because you're daughter was cut, lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 01:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego

Lol, I don't know where you got your academic rankings, but this is the gold standard that came out yesterday. Way off from your rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Does it really matter which list ?? All of the universities on the lists are excellent.

At a quick glance it looks like a total of 16 schools that offer DI Women's Lacrosse made one or both of the lists that means if girls are looking to use lacrosse to help them get into a great academic school maybe 120 players from around the country will have the opportunity.

If the player wants to go to a Top 20 caliber school as well as play for a top 20 caliber lacrosse program your looking at approximately 8 (in a given year) schools approximately 60 players from around the country will have that opportunity.

If the player wants the opportunity to go to a top 10 caliber school and a top 10 caliber lacrosse program there are maybe 4 or 5 schools (in a given year)so you are looking at approximately 30 - 35 players from around the country.

How many Long Island players have a realistic shot at go to play at one of these schools?

The large majority of players will not be going to schools on these lists that is just reality.

Try to find the best fit, there are a lot of great opportunities out there.

Good Luck to All


The only schools that offer top 10 lacrosse and top 10 academics are Northwestern. Oh yea, just one. Close contenders are Princeton, Penn, Duke. Close and looking in are Hopkins, Stanford.

All pretty silly but I will play along.

In the past five "full seasons of play" only 10 teams have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 every year. They are:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Syracuse
Northwestern
Princeton
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida
Penn

Based on actual performance, the above are arguably the Top 10 Programs.

2020 was a shortened season with no Tournament so we don't know what would have happened and 2021 was not a "regular season".

Pretty sure Princeton checks all the boxes for being considered Top 10 Academically as well as being one of the Top 10 Women's Lacrosse Programs.

Below are the Final Rankings 2015 - 2019 for Northwestern and Princeton:

Northwestern

2015 - 6
2016 - 12
2017 - 13
2018 - 8
2019 - 4

Average Rank: 8.6

Princeton

2015 - 9
2016 - 15
2017 - 7
2018 - 10
2019 - 6

Average Rank: 9.4

Penn Finished the season in the Top 20 every year but only 1 Top 10 finish.

Stanford finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in 3 of the 5 years with 1 Top 10 finish.

Notre Dame finished in the Top 20 in 4 of the 5 years and finished 2X in the Top 10.

Duke used to be a perennial Top 20 program, many times ending the season in the Top 10 and going to the Final Four but has been inconsistent the past few years.

Johns Hopkins is very competitive, they consistently finish the season in the 15 - 25 range (not top 10) but certainly one of the Top 20 - 25 Programs.

I believe the post that you are responding to said "Top 10 caliber" meaning they have been Top 10 from time to time (not many programs can say that), Princeton certainly is Top 10 academically as well as Lacrosse. Penn, Stanford and Duke have been there, Hopkins is on the bubble for Lacrosse and Notre Dame is pretty darn good with both academics and lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 01:56 PM
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 02:08 PM
Looks like about 30 players have publicly committed with about half (14) to Top 20 Programs and 5 players to Navy and Michigan both of which have done very well recently. I think we will see several more to top programs next week. When the top kids commit, it helps everybody because a lot of schools have to move down their list. Enjoy the ride.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

Please try to follow along, the post stating UA was a joke due to politics was connected to the thread that stated Scane and North were no names who nobody knew about...

If you are the one who posted I guess you must have been drinking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 03:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.

The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.

The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.

The reference to UA was with regard to Izzy Scane and Charlotte North’s credentials and being named Under Armour Senior All-Americans. Not sure why you think it had to do with Duke 22 commits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Please explain how this discussion went from discussing the two best players in the college game to the class of 2022?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Please explain how this discussion went from discussing the two best players in the college game to the class of 2022?

No one needs to explain, people can talk about or respond to anything they want on any post. You are not the moderator. BTW, this is a 2023 thread , why talk about the two college girls?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?

Nothing annoys me more than when someone writes cause instead of because. It’s one thing to say it when you’re speaking it’s entirely another thing when you actually write it. Come on you’re better than that!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?

Unmmm, probably didn’t have the smarts and grades! I bet Duke girls get better jobs after college! Hmmmm
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?

Nothing annoys me more than when someone writes cause instead of because. It’s one thing to say it when you’re speaking it’s entirely another thing when you actually write it. Come on you’re better than that![/quote

Who gives two poops what the heck annoys you!!!!
You sound so obnoxious , get over yourself! Come on, You’re better than that !!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:25 AM
Now we have the grammar police. This thread neva disappoints.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 11:41 AM
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 11:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Please explain how this discussion went from discussing the two best players in the college game to the class of 2022?

No one needs to explain, people can talk about or respond to anything they want on any post. You are not the moderator. BTW, this is a 2023 thread , why talk about the two college girls?

You can’t explain.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Unless they had other options like:

Penn, Princeton= Same or better academics with an excellent chance at a conference championship and possibly beyond, and closer (win,win)

Northwestern= Equal academics with a pretty much guaranteed conference championship and strong shot at a NC

Another great option with strong academics (not as strong as the others) but still great, but with better lax than Duke: ND
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Unless they had other options like:

Penn, Princeton= Same or better academics with an excellent chance at a conference championship and possibly beyond, and closer (win,win)

Northwestern= Equal academics with a pretty much guaranteed conference championship and strong shot at a NC

Another great option with strong academics (not as strong as the others) but still great, but with better lax than Duke: ND

It is not pretty much a guarantee that Northwestern will win a Conference Championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Unless they had other options like:

Penn, Princeton= Same or better academics with an excellent chance at a conference championship and possibly beyond, and closer (win,win)

Northwestern= Equal academics with a pretty much guaranteed conference championship and strong shot at a NC

Another great option with strong academics (not as strong as the others) but still great, but with better lax than Duke: ND

It is not pretty much a guarantee that Northwestern will win a Conference Championship.

Pretty sure it would happen at least 1x in four years. It's them and MD, no other real contenders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Hmmmm....why then did Charlotte North leave Duke? Only so much of a bad coach and overhyped, self absorbed girls a kid can take! Boys team=GREAT, Girls, not so much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Unless they had other options like:

Penn, Princeton= Same or better academics with an excellent chance at a conference championship and possibly beyond, and closer (win,win)

Northwestern= Equal academics with a pretty much guaranteed conference championship and strong shot at a NC

Another great option with strong academics (not as strong as the others) but still great, but with better lax than Duke: ND

It is not pretty much a guarantee that Northwestern will win a Conference Championship.

Pretty sure it would happen at least 1x in four years. It's them and MD, no other real contenders.

Considering the fact that there have been only 6 B1G Championships and 3 different programs have won championships I would say there have been and will be other contenders. Maryland 3 , Northwestern 2, Penn State 1…. Who knows what the future holds?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Hmmmm....why then did Charlotte North leave Duke? Only so much of a bad coach and overhyped, self absorbed girls a kid can take! Boys team=GREAT, Girls, not so much.

Who knows why she left, maybe she was struggling academically?

To each her own.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any daughter who has parents dissuading her from Duke(assuming that was an option) is being misguided. Who cares if the coach isn’t great. The school is great. Get your priorities in line.

Hmmmm....why then did Charlotte North leave Duke? Only so much of a bad coach and overhyped, self absorbed girls a kid can take! Boys team=GREAT, Girls, not so much.

Who knows why she left, maybe she was struggling academically?

To each her own.

Really?? So she transfers to BC, where the academics are so much easier?? C’mon! I’m sure it had nothing to do with the lacrosse, lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 02:50 PM
CN is an academic AA - great student. Dad went to Princeton. She knew she would not win at Duke. Coach and team were not as focused and driven to be the best as she was. It is that simple. She did not want her last 2 years to slip away without an opportunity to win a NC and be the best player she could be. Have to give her credit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CN is an academic AA - great student. Dad went to Princeton. She knew she would not win at Duke. Coach and team were not as focused and driven to be the best as she was. It is that simple. She did not want her last 2 years to slip away without an opportunity to win a NC and be the best player she could be. Have to give her credit.

As stated above, to each her own.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CN is an academic AA - great student. Dad went to Princeton. She knew she would not win at Duke. Coach and team were not as focused and driven to be the best as she was. It is that simple. She did not want her last 2 years to slip away without an opportunity to win a NC and be the best player she could be. Have to give her credit.

Exactly! Amazing what can happen with right coach and team culture! And a BC degree isn’t to shabby!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CN is an academic AA - great student. Dad went to Princeton. She knew she would not win at Duke. Coach and team were not as focused and driven to be the best as she was. It is that simple. She did not want her last 2 years to slip away without an opportunity to win a NC and be the best player she could be. Have to give her credit.

Exactly! Amazing what can happen with right coach and team culture! And a BC degree isn’t to shabby!

This is a really funny forum. Isn't this the thread that had some self rightious buffoon carrying on about honoring your commitment? Where did he go?

As far as BC goes, it's a good school but there are at least 21 schools that are considered stronger academically that offer Division I Women's Lacrosse.

I can't imagine the comments that would fly from some on this site if someone posted that their daughter was offered a spot at a Top 5 - 10 caliber lacrosse program but decided to go to a program not considered Top 35.

Never understood trying to elevate oneself or their decision or schools/programs by trying to tear down or diminish others or their decisions schools / programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CN is an academic AA - great student. Dad went to Princeton. She knew she would not win at Duke. Coach and team were not as focused and driven to be the best as she was. It is that simple. She did not want her last 2 years to slip away without an opportunity to win a NC and be the best player she could be. Have to give her credit.
You have no idea why she left as it has never been publicly stated by either Duke or CN.
Maybe the Duke coach told her not to go to goal in the last 30 seconds when they’re up by 10? BC doesn’t seem to care as she did it often last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 05:20 PM
I know CN and her family very well. My source could not be better. Nice try.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 05:22 PM
I know CN and her family very well. My source could not be better. Nice try.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know CN and her family very well. My source could not be better. Nice try.

If true, thanks for shinning some light in the mystery. That said, it’s my opinion that she was the biggest single reason BC won the NC this year.. you mean to tell me she couldn’t do that in Duke?
Walker ain’t that much better than Kimel
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 08:03 PM
Not sure how much you follow college lax but top to bottom including coaches BC is much stronger than Duke. They have been for 5 years! And looking at recruiting classes will be for the foreseeable future. Agree CN is a force and is a big reason why BC was so successful last year but please consider the following. In 2019 when CN transferred BC was off to a terrible start. This past year in the biggest game of the year (semi vs UNC) she was beaten badly on the draw and had only 2 goals. It was a complete team effort that took down the team nobody thought could be beaten. This is a 2023 thread so I will leave it there and let people get back to the recruiting process. Good luck to everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 08:29 PM
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

holy cow, you must be some kind of mental patient, you have severe issues.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

holy cow, you must be some kind of mental patient, you have severe issues.

Why is that? I actually feel bad for them. They could have probably gotten some top girls if they didn't drag their process. A shame
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 10:27 PM
I agree! I guess their kid couldn’t get into Stanford. What a hammerhead!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/16/21 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)"

holy cow, you must be some kind of mental patient, you have severe issues.

Something happened to this person, no one is this fixated on one school and rooting for its demise this much. We get it, Stanford didn't want your kid, you can't get over it. Call your therapist instead, stop cluttering up this forum with your angst.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 12:14 AM
Two top recruits to Yale and UNC today. Congrats to YJ and TG
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 01:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two top recruits to Yale and UNC today. Congrats to YJ and TG

Who?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 02:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know CN and her family very well. My source could not be better. Nice try.

If true, thanks for shinning some light in the mystery. That said, it’s my opinion that she was the biggest single reason BC won the NC this year.. you mean to tell me she couldn’t do that in Duke?
Walker ain’t that much better than Kimel

No dog in this fight, but AW has established herself as currently being “The Best Coach” in the game.

Recruiting, developing, attracting transfers, and yes “coaching “. She is the best.

As far as winning the championship is concerned it was a total team effort in the championship game. The goalie played well, the BC Defense played well, the defender who also played on the circle “controlled the game”. She had countless gb’s and dc’s and played great D and picked a pass that lead to a goal if I remember correctly.

Attack & Goalie transfers put BC over the top all year .

BC Coach is better. Duke is the better school.

If choosing between Dook & Boston College is your biggest problem may I suggest doing The Applebee’s Dance… because life is pretty good.😃
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 03:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 10:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 12:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Princeton was the 2019 Ivy League Champion.

Big fan of Danielle Spencer and she did a great gob in her short time at Dartmouth but, Dartmouth did not win The Ivy League Title in 2019. Princeton won both the Regular season title as well as the Ivy League Tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Princeton was the 2019 Ivy League Champion.

Big fan of Danielle Spencer and she did a great gob in her short time at Dartmouth but, Dartmouth did not win The Ivy League Title in 2019. Princeton won both the Regular season title as well as the Ivy League Tournament.

Dartmouth and Princeton shared the regular season title.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Princeton was the 2019 Ivy League Champion.

Big fan of Danielle Spencer and she did a great gob in her short time at Dartmouth but, Dartmouth did not win The Ivy League Title in 2019. Princeton won both the Regular season title as well as the Ivy League Tournament.

Dartmouth and Princeton shared the regular season title.

You are correct. Although not sure why the league has regular season co-champions considering Princeton won the head to head match up. In any event, DS is a very good coach, she will do an excellent job at Stanford.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/17/21 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Do you actually believe that “most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so”?

Either you know nothing or this is your first go round or both.

Why do you even bother to post such nonsense?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/20/21 06:01 PM
YJ and TG getting some serious school commitments.
Jesters had 3 girls go......over rated team!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/20/21 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ and TG getting some serious school commitments.
Jesters had 3 girls go......over rated team!

Yes they are. They have one more girl who may wind up at a 20-30 team. Legacy best player committed to Florida. They have two good commits and a few more that will go to 20-30 schools. Overall LI doing very well, with a few top players still looking
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 12:26 AM
The girls that go to Stanford and the Ivies will be a lot smarter than the ones that go to Syracuse, Maryland etc. Acceptance rates are 3-10%. You just need a pulse to go to Syracuse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 02:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The girls that go to Stanford and the Ivies will be a lot smarter than the ones that go to Syracuse, Maryland etc. Acceptance rates are 3-10%. You just need a pulse to go to Syracuse.

Jealous a bit? Just stop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 03:10 AM
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ and TG getting some serious school commitments.
Jesters had 3 girls go......over rated team!

Yes they are. They have one more girl who may wind up at a 20-30 team. Legacy best player committed to Florida. They have two good commits and a few more that will go to 20-30 schools. Overall LI doing very well, with a few top players still looking

Legacy best player went to Navy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ and TG getting some serious school commitments.
Jesters had 3 girls go......over rated team!

BC and Syracuse are serious commits for the Jesters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia


How about UVA where the out of state acceptance rate is about 8%
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

Not sure why you say "only 4 DI programs have admissions rates at 10%". Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia, Penn, Hopkins, Dartmouth, as well as Army & Navy all have acceptance rates below 10%.

Acceptance rate is not relevant when it comes to athletes.

As far as "the very best lax year in and year out", what are you talking about? What school do you think has "the very best lax year in and year out"?

Northwestern, Princeton, Penn are Top 10 Lacrosse Programs. Duke and Hopkins are pretty much Top 20 (Duke was a Top 10 program until a few years ago and could easily be back to being one of the 10 best programs). Stanford is a very competitive program (not as consistent as the others mentioned) but Top 20 most years and has finished in the Top 10 not long ago, I would consider Stanford one of the 20 best Programs.

Not every kid has the athletic ability and the academics to go to schools like the ones listed so I guess I do not get your point.

I would not turn my nose up at Michigan, UNC, UVA, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Penn State, Maryland, Arizona State etc... it's about job opportunities after college (take a look at the schools on the lists that have been posted

There are a lot of excellent opportunities out there for women's lacrosse players, help your daughter find the best fit so that her college experience is a great one.

Below has been posted several times....

It's about the education and the opportunities after college.... not promoting any one school, there are a lot of great opportunities...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....


Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia

I would bump ND and Hopkins up to that top group as they are both excellent schools with very strong lacrosse.

Combine the rest…. Yale, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Harvard and Columbia. Excellent schools but not top caliber lacrosse (not consistently Top 10-20).
Dartmouth was headed in the right direction, let’s see what the new coach does.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia

I would bump ND and Hopkins up to that top group as they are both excellent schools with very strong lacrosse.

Combine the rest…. Yale, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Harvard and Columbia. Excellent schools but not top caliber lacrosse (not consistently Top 10-20).
Dartmouth was headed in the right direction, let’s see what the new coach does.


Agree with you except for ND, they barely crack to top 20 academically, All the other schools are top 10 academically and Hopkins #9 so that makes sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Happy to see some top tier recruits (UA All-Americans) going to Stanford. But for crying out loud please do not bring up a summer tournament as some kind indication of the actual strength of the team or the recruits. It is foolish to do so.

Good luck to Stanford, Congratulations to all of the players and recruits they made a great choice!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 04:21 PM
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 08:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Currently about 10 Long Island girls publicly committed ...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Also consider girls like my daughter who has gone on 5 visits and has been offered great scholarships/ spots at 4 of the schools you mentioned but is not ready to choose yet. she is taking her time to see a couple more schools before she decides. Coaches have generally been great about waiting, but they won’t wait forever. Although several “top tier” recruits have committed, there are also a bunch that haven’t. That’s Whats mainly holding up the process
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Also consider girls like my daughter who has gone on 5 visits and has been offered great scholarships/ spots at 4 of the schools you mentioned but is not ready to choose yet. she is taking her time to see a couple more schools before she decides. Coaches have generally been great about waiting, but they won’t wait forever. Although several “top tier” recruits have committed, there are also a bunch that haven’t. That’s Whats mainly holding up the process

The main takeaway is: this process has just begun. There will be several rounds of girls committing.
Coaches go back to the drawing board every time they lose a recruit and the elevate other players from “prospect” to “recruit”.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 11:50 PM
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:21 AM
Have any clubs gotten 23 commits except YJ, TG, and Jesters ? Haven’t seen any legacy, 91, flg, etc commits
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Same here. Definitely an obnoxious post thinly veiled as “helpful”. This isn’t jealousy, just an opinion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 01:03 AM
laxbytes.com shows 88 commits so far

and for the parent who boasted, I mean posted, about their kid having multiple offers...2 weeks is the standard amount of time someone has to accept an offer or not. If you're getting more than that, you're kid is really lucky.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 01:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 02:42 AM
Yes Legacy has commits
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 02:43 AM
Agree. Plus Junior year is one of the more rigorous academics years for most students and all of these trips without production is both frustrating and deflating. At some point something has to give. I can see why some people wait a year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Plus Junior year is one of the more rigorous academics years for most students and all of these trips without production is both frustrating and deflating. At some point something has to give. I can see why some people wait a year.

Who are you agreeing with?

Who waits a year?

What on earth are you talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 11:55 AM
What is a good way to tell schools that your still looking? You dont want to close the door yet?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is a good way to tell schools that your still looking? You dont want to close the door yet?

Be honest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!

As the parent of a 22, this post explaining the 15-20 girls on campus for 6-8 spots is an accurate assessment of how most schools work their campus visits. Coaches play the law of averages like the college admission process knowing that not all invited players will commit to their program. The hardest and most frustrating part in the recruiting process for my DD who did eventually commit, was having the coaches court her, invite her to all the zooms (visits weren’t an option) w the coaches and players, and than completely ghost her in the end without giving any feedback why. Even when she asked the coaches directly and wanted true feedback. I just figured the ghosting/no feedback gave her all the info she needed to decide that wasn’t the program she wanted to be a part of. In the beginning they courted her heavily and supposedly watched her for years so very confusing to a kid (& parent).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Happy to see some top tier recruits (UA All-Americans) going to Stanford. But for crying out loud please do not bring up a summer tournament as some kind indication of the actual strength of the team or the recruits. It is foolish to do so.

Good luck to Stanford, Congratulations to all of the players and recruits they made a great choice!


Stanford is having their first officials this weekend and next, so we'll see who they get!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 02:39 PM
This may sound harsh but a coaches actions will speak much louder than their words. Coaches do not wait around and waste time, they make offers to the players that they want. If they invite the player on a formal visit but do not offer it is because they have other players that they have ranked higher and they are waiting to see if they can get them.

If the coach goes silent and is not communicating they have moved on (for the time being it is possible that could change).

Reasonable parents understand this, delusional parents will start to conjure up all kinds of reasons and excuses as to why coaches are not making offers.

Remember this, just because coaches are not beating down the door right now doesn't mean that your daughter will not find a great fit. We are very early in what is a pretty long process for most.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 02:52 PM
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart!

Parents, remember that if you are in on meetings, you are being looked at also. A few years back i knew a family who's daughter had visits at some top 30 D1 schools, none of them came through. I don't know for sure but if I had to bet it was the parents. They are nice people but a bit overzealous which could be a turn off to coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:18 PM
Agree. Any list or all-star is a garbage shoot in the club world. But, it's easy to track!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Lol, a few deserving girls on list others you really have to shake your head. Did some of these girls put themselves on?? They are for sure missing quite a few of the top girls in the grade, and not just from LI! Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Lol, a few deserving girls on list others you really have to shake your head. Did some of these girls put themselves on?? They are for sure missing quite a few of the top girls in the grade, and not just from LI! Lol

Typical response…. Always the same… currently, half the kids on the list have committed to the best programs in the country. I guess the coaches at those schools do not know what they are looking at.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.

Pretty sure 3 on that list committed to North Carolina

So we have about half the list committed to:

Boston College
North Carolina
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Whoever made the list did a good job.
Would have liked to see it go to 50.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That may be true, but there are also many other girls who have committed to top 10 schools who are not on this "list". As there others on the "list" who have not committed. The "list" is silly and useless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 04:12 PM
Also, 3 to UNC on the list and one to USC.. So, yes, they are doing ok for themselves! And certainly there are many girls making excellent commitments who aren't on the list. Just using it as a potential barometer for speed of process and when the second tier girls can start seeing some movement of spots and opportunities open up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That may be true, but there are also many other girls who have committed to top 10 schools who are not on this "list". As there others on the "list" who have not committed. The "list" is silly and useless.

If it is silly and useless, why do you care about it? Strange that you would take the time to post about it if it were so silly and useless.

It appears as though you are trying to diminish the list and the players that are on the list because your daughter was not on the list.

Same nonsense every time, it’s funny to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Also, 3 to UNC on the list and one to USC.. So, yes, they are doing ok for themselves! And certainly there are many girls making excellent commitments who aren't on the list. Just using it as a potential barometer for speed of process and when the second tier girls can start seeing some movement of spots and opportunities open up.

Lol, schools like Stanford and Northwestern have not committed anyone yet. And they are not taking second tier girls. You sound foolish
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That may be true, but there are also many other girls who have committed to top 10 schools who are not on this "list". As there others on the "list" who have not committed. The "list" is silly and useless.

The top 5 field players for Sky walkers isn't even on the list. The second one listed doesn't even start on the team. That list is garbage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 05:10 PM
Clearly you misunderstood what I was saying. Of course they aren't committing tier 2 players! My point was that without commitments from top programs like Stanford and Northwestern yet, they (not alone of course) hold the tier one process up and the tier two girls have to continue to wait.

Seems more foolish to jump to name calling, but whatever.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That may be true, but there are also many other girls who have committed to top 10 schools who are not on this "list". As there others on the "list" who have not committed. The "list" is silly and useless.

The top 5 field players for Sky walkers isn't even on the list. The second one listed doesn't even start on the team. That list is garbage.

Do you people realize how foolish you sound?

From what I can tell more than half the players listed have already committed to many of the top 10-15 programs in the country. I’m sure many more will find a home at top tier programs as well.

Of course there are excellent players who were not listed, they only listed 25 players.

If you want to know where your daughter stands, just look at the schools that make offers. If the offers come from the top 10 - 15 programs she is most likely very good. If there are no offers from those programs then it is likely that she is not a top tier player. It’s is what it is, the best programs consistently bring in the best players.

Not trying to offend anyone, it just seems pretty clear to me that if Top 10 caliber programs are making offers the player is probably pretty darn good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe it is less stressful because you are visiting and you know it’s because they want her? That wasn’t our experience— my daughter got the calls, went to visit, but it felt more like an audition and not a courtship. It’s a shame but on our end I think we will probably take a step back. It’s just not sustainable.

I think you will find that some of the schools that had her visit, but didn't offer, will eventually start talking to her again. If they had her on an official visit, it most likely meant she was identified as a top recruit on their list, but they have a couple/few girls ranked ahead of her. If these girls commit elsewhere (some will, some won't) her value changes. I 100% know what you mean about the fatigue and feeling of audition. The coaches already know who they want before the girls arrive on campus, and I don't think (except in rare cases) that they change their minds during the visit. I know that on some of the visits my daughter went on, there were 5-8 girls. They also had 2 other visits. This means they potentially had 15 -20 girls on campus, but will likely recruit about 6-8. I also think that maybe 1-2 of those spots might be filled at camps and/or performance at the fall tournaments. It's a chess game, keep playing, and be smart![/quote]

Thanks so much to you (and others on here!) for your thoughtful responses about the process. Its so different for each kid. I am actually so thrilled for the kids for whom it's a breeze and it happens quickly and painlessly! I'm glad to hear we are not alone in the feeling of some fatigue. It's tough to go and leave with this fabulous impression of the place, and new relationships, and no offer. Tricky to navigate! Throw in some 16 year old hormones...what an experience!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That may be true, but there are also many other girls who have committed to top 10 schools who are not on this "list". As there others on the "list" who have not committed. The "list" is silly and useless.

The top 5 field players for Sky walkers isn't even on the list. The second one listed doesn't even start on the team. That list is garbage.

Do you people realize how foolish you sound?

From what I can tell more than half the players listed have already committed to many of the top 10-15 programs in the country. I’m sure many more will find a home at top tier programs as well.

Of course there are excellent players who were not listed, they only listed 25 players.

If you want to know where your daughter stands, just look at the schools that make offers. If the offers come from the top 10 - 15 programs she is most likely very good. If there are no offers from those programs then it is likely that she is not a top tier player. It’s is what it is, the best programs consistently bring in the best players.

Not trying to offend anyone, it just seems pretty clear to me that if Top 10 caliber programs are making offers the player is probably pretty darn good.


The list is silly. These are NOT the top 25 players. Some are, some are not. I get it, your daughter is on the list, mine is not. Should she be? Maybe. My daughter also did not commit yet, but has standing offers at 4 of the schools listed, and has two more visits before deciding. Lets see how this list compares to the Inside lacrosse rankings. I'm sorry, but this list is not credible due to many girls who are on that should not be, and many girls who are not but should be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 06:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
12 of the 25 players listed on the Lacrosse Magazine Girls National Watchlist have committed, so about halfway there on that list - for whatever it's worth. Northwestern and Stanford haven't made any commitments yet. They both have camps the weekend of 10/9-10/10 and are hosting visits.

LIST http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/

That list is funny. No YJ Colbert or TG black on the list yet both teams combined have about 10 girls committed already.

Funny or not, it looks like the kids that were on the list and have committed did pretty well:

They have committed to the following schools: (if I missed one I apologize )

Boston College
Penn State
Princeton
Syracuse
Maryland
Florida
Duke
Penn State

Obviously the Coaches at the best programs are on the same page as the people who made the list if half the list is already committed to many of the 15 or so best programs out there.


That list is awful. Lots of really good players not there cause mom or dad didn’t send name in. Their rankings are all guess for teams too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 06:46 PM
Please tell me that schools don't look at this Horse-.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 08:48 PM
Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 09:10 PM
We will hear the same nonsense when IL comes out with their Junior List, and we will hear it again next year when IL does their Senior List and again when The Under Armour Senior All Americans are announced.

The fact that the coaching staffs at the majority of the Top 10 - 15 Programs have selected approximately 13 of the 25 just 3 weeks into the process says a lot about the caliber of players on the list.

In the end, the list is just opinion but when players are offered spots at the best programs in the country I have to believe the players are pretty good. There are probably another 15 or so players committed to the Traditional Powers who on not on the list and I am sure that they are excellent players as well but they all can't be recognized because the list was limited to just 25 players.

The bottom line is the list doesn't matter, the real question is, what programs are making offers? If Carolina, BC, UVA, Northwestern, Princeton, Penn, Syracuse, Maryland etc... are offering you know where your daughter stands. If programs of that caliber are not offering then the player is most likely in the next tier. There are a lot of great schools with good lacrosse programs in the next tier but there is definitely a drop in the level of talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.

Exactly! Half. The other half...who knows. Some will commit to good schools..some will not. Meanwhile, a couple question marks. Several girls not on this list have also committed to top 10 schools, where are they? Seems they should be on this list before the random uncommitted girls. There are also many top girls from TG, and YJ who are not on this list and also at let 1-2 from Legacy. How is that? Not one girl from the top team in the country on the list? Seems odd, no?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 11:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.

Exactly! Half. The other half...who knows. Some will commit to good schools..some will not. Meanwhile, a couple question marks. Several girls not on this list have also committed to top 10 schools, where are they? Seems they should be on this list before the random uncommitted girls. There are also many top girls from TG, and YJ who are not on this list and also at let 1-2 from Legacy. How is that? Not one girl from the top team in the country on the list? Seems odd, no?

It’s all opinion …. BC might like a player, uNC and Syracuse might not….

The real issue is it’s only 25 players, obviously there are very good players not on the list. Listening to the whinny LI parents complain is getting old.

Way too many delusional parents out there.

If your daughter is a top recruit at a top 10 program and is not on the list we get it, she is obviously deserving (but you probably don’t care because it doesn’t matter). However, if you think your daughter is top tier but isn’t receiving offers from top tier teams or is being offered a spot but not much else you still want her to receive attention.

What programs are offering and what are they offering will tell you where your daughter stands.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 02:07 AM
You all are getting excited over a watch list (not a ranking) of kids in a publication that hasn’t posted anything in 9 months. Seriously?? There are a lot of deserving players to be on a list and quite frankly many kids that have beaten ones on this list regularly. Not discrediting anyone but other than one or two cream players the rest are basically equal including kids not from LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are getting excited over a watch list (not a ranking) of kids in a publication that hasn’t posted anything in 9 months. Seriously?? There are a lot of deserving players to be on a list and quite frankly many kids that have beaten ones on this list regularly. Not discrediting anyone but other than one or two cream players the rest are basically equal including kids not from LI.

I think the list hasn’t be updated/touched in 9 months is because the kid is buried under 56 empty Mountain Dew cans down in the family basement the only people that care worry too much about their social media profiles for their kids.
Hopefully IL will come out with a list of some kind for the 23’s this October.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 07:18 PM
Of these top players - some know exactly what they want and some need to explore all of their offers to figure it out. There is also the issue of $$. They are very lucky either way to have such choices! One of the top goalies in the country is still working through her options and therefore other very good goalies are on hold at top 10 schools until she settles into her spot. Each of the schools she is talking to is probably keeping their second choice goalie very engaged in case they have to go that way. It's a domino effect. For the parent who was worried about her daughter not getting communications right now from formerly interested schools, be patient - her time MAY come, but also be realistic and consider all offers. Remember - you can only accept or turn down the offers that you have!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of these top players - some know exactly what they want and some need to explore all of their offers to figure it out. There is also the issue of $$. They are very lucky either way to have such choices! One of the top goalies in the country is still working through her options and therefore other very good goalies are on hold at top 10 schools until she settles into her spot. Each of the schools she is talking to is probably keeping their second choice goalie very engaged in case they have to go that way. It's a domino effect. For the parent who was worried about her daughter not getting communications right now from formerly interested schools, be patient - her time MAY come, but also be realistic and consider all offers. Remember - you can only accept or turn down the offers that you have!

Lol, the top 2 goalies already committed. Nice try mom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 08:46 PM
Yes, lots of top goalies committed already - but not all of them. Some big programs still filling goalie spots. Wonder if they know the best goalies are all gone?!?!? And you with the funny jokes.... my daughter is not a goalie, but is already committed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 08:55 PM
Wow-aggressive. The person said “one of the top goalies in the country”. They did not say The top goalie. My daughter is not a goalie and is committed so no dog in-this-fight but to say “The” top 2 goalies committed already is a bit foolish. I Know of some Top goalies who have committed and some Top goalies who have not yet committed.
Saying “Lol, the top two goalies committed already. Nice try Mom” Is ridiculous. No One has been deemed The Top goalie or two anywhere!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 10:40 PM
Funny Jokes???? Weird. My daughter is in fact Not a goalie and is in fact, committed! You are odd.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 12:56 PM
This site should be the basis of several studies of human behavior! It's amazing to read the posts from lost trolls just throwing bombs to get attention. Add in the delusional parents trying to fight their kids battles against other delusional, it's just great! Todays crazy media has nothing on this site!! But the true greatness is there is nowhere else to go to get real nuggets of useful information that gets sprinkled all over the posts by "normal" people that are hoping to help their kids and spread helpful information to others. I have become hooked on this site and will continue to be an avid reader and anonymous poster for years to come.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 03:49 PM
New Poster here
This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 06:05 PM
There are other showcases that day as well that may have some T50 coaches. Will try to locate info. Not all have coach lists out yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New Poster here
This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 06:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are other showcases that day as well that may have some T50 coaches. Will try to locate info. Not all have coach lists out yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New Poster here
This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.

3d hosts a good event that day too. The Fall Combine. Here is the list from the last time they held it and could have coaches (pre-COVID). It's a mixed bag. There is usually one more too, but can't find that info.

Assumption, Babson, Binghamton, Brown, Bucknell, Colorado, Dartmouth, Davenport University, Denver, Detroit Mercy, Florida, Fresno State, Gardner-Webb, Hamilton College, Iona, Lasalle, Liberty University, Methodist University, Michigan, Monmouth, New England College, New Hampshire, Northwestern, Palm Beach Atlantic University, PITT, Radford, Robert Morris, Salem College, St. Joseph's, St. Lawrence University, Syracuse, Trinity College, UMASS Lowell, University of Oregon, Villanova, Virginia Tech, Wagner, William and Mary, Yale
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 07:26 PM
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!

Flights are ridiculous right now. Rental cars high. Should still be in Orlando
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!

Flights are ridiculous right now. Rental cars high. Should still be in Orlando

Maybe the grizzlies realize that your time and money might be better spent targeting some specific schools and going to their prospect days then spending a small fortune on a tournament hoping a college coach notices you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 01:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!

Flights are ridiculous right now. Rental cars high. Should still be in Orlando

Maybe the grizzlies realize that your time and money might be better spent targeting some specific schools and going to their prospect days then spending a small fortune on a tournament hoping a college coach notices you.

Please stop with your crying poverty. Grizzlies are probably the most financially entitled club out there. Go or don’t go. Nobody cares if you’re there, except maybe the girls on you team that are not committed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!

Flights are ridiculous right now. Rental cars high. Should still be in Orlando

Maybe the grizzlies realize that your time and money might be better spent targeting some specific schools and going to their prospect days then spending a small fortune on a tournament hoping a college coach notices you.

Don’t do this if your daughter is being actively recruited. It is expensive and totally unnecessary. My daughters ‘21 team stopped going after fall of 10th grade with no impact on recruiting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 02:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have to admit as a 23 parent, the Prez Cup travel seems like a bit of overkill this year. Noticed that several of the really big teams will not be there— grizzlies for one, assuming many of their girls don’t need the showcase since they’ve already been seen and offered?

Nobody cares if the grizzlies won't be there. All the other top teams have just as many high level commits as them. They are no different. Even though the top teams have several great commits, it's a shame that the grizzlie club would not want to help out the majority of their team, who have not committed by competing in the top fall tournament. Sounds very selfish to me. My daughter, who has committed, can't wait to go and help her teammates get recruited! Will be some darn good lax too!

Flights are ridiculous right now. Rental cars high. Should still be in Orlando

That's so funny. Flights to Dallas are way cheaper than Orlando.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 05:09 PM
I love the person saying multiple times 'No one cares if the Grizzlies are there'.
Sure, OK. No one cares about getting spanked all summer and wanting another shot at them at Presidents Cup?
I know my daughter and her teammates do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 05:23 PM
The amount of recruits recruited already from just a few teams shows that it DOES matter for what team you play.
The girls on these teams have a much smoother ride than ones not.
All of the coaches are watching these games on the sidelines so its a benefit to play them as well.
This is my first rodeo so I'm learning SO MUCH.
Talent Always Wins but some girls have to work harder to get seen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I love the person saying multiple times 'No one cares if the Grizzlies are there'.
Sure, OK. No one cares about getting spanked all summer and wanting another shot at them at Presidents Cup?
I know my daughter and her teammates do.

Lol, Grizzlies we’re spanked by M&D. Was a beat down. I’m sure Grizzlies would want to avoid that again. Yikes!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I love the person saying multiple times 'No one cares if the Grizzlies are there'.
Sure, OK. No one cares about getting spanked all summer and wanting another shot at them at Presidents Cup?
I know my daughter and her teammates do.

Hmmm…..sounds like someone is confused. It’s a recruiting tournament. Girls are going to get recruited, how many girls have been recruited from the Grizzlies? 5/6? I’m sure the rest of your team would love to get a chance to play in front of the big coaches. The score of the games are meaningless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I love the person saying multiple times 'No one cares if the Grizzlies are there'.
Sure, OK. No one cares about getting spanked all summer and wanting another shot at them at Presidents Cup?
I know my daughter and her teammates do.

Speak for your own team. M&D lost by 1 goal at Lax for the Cure and spanked the Grizzlies at the Mid Atlantic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 06:48 PM