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This first statement was in reference to the NJ WSYL teams a few posts up.

The second statement transitioned from the talent of the NJ WSYL teams, referring the talent here in NJ, juxtaposing how the 2023's for BBL and Leading Edge will begin committing September 1st, 2021, about 6 months away, and how about 35 of them combined will go D1. Likewise, I mentioned that both of their 2024 teams are more talented then their 2023 teams.

I am not sure what drop off your talking about for Leading Edge. Their 2023's are good and their 2024's are more talented and on the verge of being really good. The bottom quarter of both BBL and Leading Edge 2023 & 2024 are subpar. The top 17 on BBL 2024 and top 16 Leading Edge 2024 are all really good. Everyone on both clubs knows the 2023 players very well and who is talented and who is not, on both of their respective 2023 teams.

My initial post gave both teams compliments. I was keeping it positive.

Fair enough. But I don't agree with your assessment of the talent on LEs 2024 team (there are only 2-3 strong players, not 16). BBL is probably 10-12 deep for 2024s. Not trying to be negative, just realistic. 2023 LE is probably 4-5 elite kids, about the same as BBL. 35 D1 kids is a major stretch. It's just not the same program where they had 10-15 top level kids each year.

How do you have this much knowledge about the 24s & 23s? Are you reading the post about who is going to what showcase or are you really watching the two teams play? To my knowledge, the teams have only been at one tournament together. Additionally, the club directors made sure the kids didn't play on the same "all-star teams"
My point, you have no clue what you are talking about. The original post might have been optimistic but not unrealistic. Maybe BBL & LE are made up of very smart kids whose parents can write the check so all 50 kids play D1.

It's a tough analysis, but appreciate the attempt at staying positive. BBL has certainly done a pretty decent job keeping their teams together, but I do agree that LE is struggling below 22's because the younger kids are sticking with their clubs.

Leading Edge has basically put about 18 kids D1 every year. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same with the 23's and 24's. YES -BBL has caught up with them in this area and will send around the same amount of people D1 as well. Very minimal scholarship money. Mostly rich and smart kids are playing anyway. To the dude who was asking how do you know who is good; once you know the kids on each teams name, there is a lot out there. Now they are all in the same schools with each other so everyone knows everyone and everyone knows who is good and who is not. Like the guy said, both teams in both ages are going to put 15 each at the next level.

So, you think that LE and BBL are going to place 18 kids each at D1 every year, that seems pretty aggressive. I could be wrong, but I do not think that those number are realistic going forward for LE. In past years, all of the top kids played for LE, not so much anymore, so they do not have the same talent depth on the roster. These days, the top kids on on Tri-State, Riot, Blue Star, etc., who would normally be playing for LE are not, and don't kid yourself if you think that the top kids on those teams are not as good, if not better, than the kids on LE, or BBL for that matter.

Just counted 70+ NJ D1 2021 players in the IL database and I'm sure I missed a few. That's 5 teams with 14 each and that doesn't include the high-level D3 schools.
Maybe the talent pool in NJ has increased?

Just counted 70+ NJ D1 2021 players in the IL database and I'm sure I missed a few. That's 5 teams with 14 each and that doesn't include the high-level D3 schools.
Maybe the talent pool in NJ has increased?

It's a tough analysis, but appreciate the attempt at staying positive. BBL has certainly done a pretty decent job keeping their teams together, but I do agree that LE is struggling below 22's because the younger kids are sticking with their clubs.

I have seen them. Your response confirms you don't know what you are talking about. You can't just write a check to get your kid on a D1 team.

12.6 scholarships.. all things being equal, kids that don't need financial aid are more likely to be taken than kids that do. To quote the great Bill Murray "That's a fact Jack"

Definitely a possibility, but I wonder whether it has anything to do with the expansion of D1 lacrosse programs, many more schools in the mix these days, so more D1 spots available, although, I would much rather have my kid at one of those D3 schools over 75% of the D1 programs.

If NJIT is the only school my kid was recruited to, I'd tell him to hang up the cleats. The point of college is to get set up for the rest of life. not to hang on to some sort of perceived athletic glory. It's over. Let him move on.

Just jumping on this on a slow day at work.
Older son played leading Edge 2019 team
8 poles, 1 goalie, 5 middies, 6 attackmen all went d1, with 3 Nescac players
Knowing the ‘2023 LE very well, 2 goalies, 5-6 poles, 4-5 middies, 3-4 attack probably same situation albeit not as dominant as 2010 to 2019 teams for sure.
So comments above are directionally correct but still the dominant team in the class and would beat BBL 8-5 this summer. I guess we will have to see at NAL.
Good luck to all. Go NJ!

Just jumping on this on a slow day at work.
Older son played leading Edge 2019 team
8 poles, 1 goalie, 5 middies, 6 attackmen all went d1, with 3 Nescac players
Knowing the ‘2023 LE very well, 2 goalies, 5-6 poles, 4-5 middies, 3-4 attack probably same situation albeit not as dominant as 2010 to 2019 teams for sure.
So comments above are directionally correct but still the dominant team in the class and would beat BBL 8-5 this summer. I guess we will have to see at NAL.
Good luck to all. Go NJ!

BBL doesn't win a face-off

The LE 2023 Attack-man is one of the best in the Nation and everyone knows it. He is not just strong. Your trying to minimize for your own benefit.

Have you seen him? The kid is over 6' now and put on 15lbs this fall. His high school coach is hoping he can hide behind the Rutgers and West Point commits so teams don't see him coming.

Seems like the kids parent is replying to his own posts