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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020
TM@BOTC #302357 05/27/20 02:39 PM
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Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.

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Anonymous #302362 05/27/20 05:45 PM
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Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.


Exactly. All these videos and Instagram posts are smoke and mirrors.

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Anonymous #302366 05/27/20 08:27 PM
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What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


I don't know where you heard 91 wasn't sending anything. They have weekly emails that go out with different workout options and created an Instagram page with videos from coaches with different drills for the boys to do. Have all your facts before you go posting things that aren't true.

Are they going to use the videos, the instagram drills and workouts and say not getting refund to you because we supplied that ? Did they say that in the email ? Just curious.

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Anonymous #302367 05/27/20 09:18 PM
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Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.


Exactly. All these videos and Instagram posts are smoke and mirrors.


But the top secret practices are awesome.

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TM@BOTC #302368 05/27/20 09:21 PM
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E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?

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TM@BOTC #302369 05/27/20 09:41 PM
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These clubs are toast. They all were ripping off the consumer for way to long. Summer tuition includes 4 or 5 tournaments, professional coaching and 15 practices. All are not going to happen = full refund.
Pucker up club owners as you will be getting a taste what you have been doing to the parents for years.

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The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.

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The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.



Boo. Hoo.

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Anonymous #302391 05/28/20 11:47 AM
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What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


I don't know where you heard 91 wasn't sending anything. They have weekly emails that go out with different workout options and created an Instagram page with videos from coaches with different drills for the boys to do. Have all your facts before you go posting things that aren't true.

Are they going to use the videos, the instagram drills and workouts and say not getting refund to you because we supplied that ? Did they say that in the email ? Just curious.


That's an excellent point, no they did not say that. Didn't think of that.

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Anonymous #302393 05/28/20 11:58 AM
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The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.


Most clubs do not layout money this far in advance to organizers. Most clubs own a piece of the tourney organizations! This is twice as true for the large clubs.

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Anonymous #302416 05/28/20 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.



Boo. Hoo.


And there he is, Mr. Obnoxious. Get a life.

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TM@BOTC #302427 05/29/20 09:20 AM
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Stop already. It isn’t some complex, high tech thing to figure out. It’s a business. The goal of every business is to make money. That comes before anything else. Money, money, money. Your kid getting better in lacrosse is nice, but not nearly as important to the club as profits. Your son met nice new friends, that’s great, but to the club that means little as compared to profits. You lost your job, see if the club carries you for free next year, not happening. Maybe some 12 month payment plan will be applied, not free. If a club has 25 kids on a team paying 4000 bucks each. That’s 100 grand a team. 1 team per grade is 10 teams, that’s 1 millon bucks. Some clubs have 2 or 3 teams per grade, that’s 2 to 3 million bucks. Let’s use the 1 team per grade example. 1 million bucks coming in.

The money going out:
2 paid coaches per team. I’ll say 150 to 200 grand for the 10 teams.
Tournaments:let’s say 7 tournaments 1000 each, 10 teams 70 grand.
Uniforms: 100 per kid, 250 kids, 25 grand
Field permits/insurance: I’ll say 100 grand

In reality a club with 25 kids per team, 1 team per grade is making about 600 grand profit.
2 teams per grade 1.2 million profit.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with making profits. My business makes a nice profit too. That’s why people go to work, that’s why people start businesses, to make as much money as they can for their families. I just think that this particular year, with this horrific situation, a good portion of those profits need to be returned to the customers. This without question should be done. I’ve been in business a long time, I truly believe doing the right thing now, will actually reward those clubs with business later.

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Anonymous #302429 05/29/20 10:51 AM
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E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.

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Anonymous #302431 05/29/20 11:11 AM
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E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.


My son told me one of his friends teams here in Nassau had a practice yesterday.

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Anonymous #302437 05/29/20 01:47 PM
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E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.


My son told me one of his friends teams here in Nassau had a practice yesterday.
it can happen.. this infor is verified. Just hard to find fields.

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