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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse topics pertaining to the Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 season.
Express is really pulling away from the pack. 91 got no new talent, Express got scary.
what more did the incredible express team add?
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Express is really pulling away from the pack. 91 got no new talent, Express got scary.

Are they carrying 45 this year?
So Igloo, 91, Legacy, Express, Turtles, 24, S2S and REBELS are done with tryouts. True Blue is his weekend and rebels is mostly done. Force is lagging and I think that’s it. Besides Outlaws, but they were not good last year and I’ll be surprised if they field a team.
Club prices this year ? Did they raise again more of a % of the cost of living. Unreal
Wish I had wage work increases like these clubs raise increase.
Did Igloo pick up anyone new? Think they lost their best long pole to Express.
I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.
Heard they lost a ton of players but it probably wont matter based on how they played last year. They ran an ad calling all players looking for "their first travel team". im sure they got a ton of studs at their tryouts after that message. RUN FOR THE HILLS. Kudos to the kids and parents who had the brains to get on a life boat before that ship sank. #wasteyourmoney & time
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I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.


Rules say 19-23, plus 2 goalies minimum. So 25 max.
Igloo will be fine, yes they will never beat Express but most teams wont. They have a new head coach and that should put an end to the blatant favoritism. Still happy we left though!
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Heard they lost a ton of players but it probably wont matter based on how they played last year. They ran an ad calling all players looking for "their first travel team". im sure they got a ton of studs at their tryouts after that message. RUN FOR THE HILLS. Kudos to the kids and parents who had the brains to get on a life boat before that ship sank. #wasteyourmoney & time


What is wrong with you? You must be a very unhappy person. If you are so unhappy with your own team or your son is not getting real playing time, then be an adult and go make a change. Stop making up stuff about other teams because your not happy where you are. You are the type of parent that runs the sport.
Which team are you referring to? Outlaws?

And to above post - 24 tryouts aren't complete. They haven't had their tryouts in Farmingdale yet for 2025.
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Igloo will be fine, yes they will never beat Express but most teams wont. They have a new head coach and that should put an end to the blatant favoritism. Still happy we left though!


Who is the new coach?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they lost a ton of players but it probably wont matter based on how they played last year. They ran an ad calling all players looking for "their first travel team". im sure they got a ton of studs at their tryouts after that message. RUN FOR THE HILLS. Kudos to the kids and parents who had the brains to get on a life boat before that ship sank. #wasteyourmoney & time


What is wrong with you? You must be a very unhappy person. If you are so unhappy with your own team or your son is not getting real playing time, then be an adult and go make a change. Stop making up stuff about other teams because your not happy where you are. You are the type of parent that runs the sport.


* ruins the sport
Anyone know if 91 will have 3 teams this year or just 2? And when will invites go out? Thanks.
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I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.


I guess you haven't heard the rumors of the WSYL possibly not happening this year because they have no money.

Another rumor is Express may have 2 teams enter the qualifiers for WSYL (if it does happen).
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Anyone know if 91 will have 3 teams this year or just 2? And when will invites go out? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know if 91 will have 3 teams this year or just 2? And when will invites go out? Thanks.


I don’t think the kool aide barrel is big enough. Their B team this year was really not good at all. I am sure the decent players will move on.
WSYL has a max of 23 field players plus a minimum of two goalies, so the number is 25
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I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.


I guess you haven't heard the rumors of the WSYL possibly not happening this year because they have no money.

Another rumor is Express may have 2 teams enter the qualifiers for WSYL (if it does happen).


I don't understand the no money rumor. This is a tourney just like the rest of them. Teams pay to participate....they pay more than other tourneys because you get swag too. The tourney is no different, and run by Aloha tournaments, which runs a dozen others throughout the year. There's no money problem. ESPN signed up to broadcast through 2022 also.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.


I guess you haven't heard the rumors of the WSYL possibly not happening this year because they have no money.

Another rumor is Express may have 2 teams enter the qualifiers for WSYL (if it does happen).


Express had two teams enter the qualifiers from Long Island this year so I'm sure they will be doing the same again in 2020.

All the "extras" from 2025 plus a lot of 2024's that age qualify.
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Igloo will be fine, yes they will never beat Express but most teams wont. They have a new head coach and that should put an end to the blatant favoritism. Still happy we left though!

NEW head coach? You mean AA director coming in to clean up the mess left behind by years of Daddy ball town team players, and those coaches still involved so really no change. The have lost much more on the roster than they've added. They'll have another poor year losing consistently to all the top teams. Quality wins matter and they've had none.
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Did Igloo pick up anyone new? Think they lost their best long pole to Express.

Yeah great pick up for Express, no practice just games. I am sure the parents and players are thrilled to have another fly in guest superstar. So much for team ball.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the maximum amount of kids that can possibly go to Denver is 24. I wonder if kids going to express know this.


I guess you haven't heard the rumors of the WSYL possibly not happening this year because they have no money.

Another rumor is Express may have 2 teams enter the qualifiers for WSYL (if it does happen).


I don't understand the no money rumor. This is a tourney just like the rest of them. Teams pay to participate....they pay more than other tourneys because you get swag too. The tourney is no different, and run by Aloha tournaments, which runs a dozen others throughout the year. There's no money problem. ESPN signed up to broadcast through 2022 also.

Yeah but if you lose your sponsors and the other regions start dropping send teams the tournament wont survive.
I heard Warrior pulled out as a sponsor... don't know if that is true though...
91 results starting to trickle out. All the major clubs are done. A few other clubs have secondary tryouts, I guess for vacation, or for kids that don’t make a team they were trying for and need a team, or people decline the team invite and the club needs help forming the roster.
Shore 2 Shore invites out yet?
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Shore 2 Shore invites out yet?


A team is solid enough for the 2nd level below Express and 91. But after that it’s on par with average PAL lacrosse in my opinion.
Are there any other teams besides shore 2 shore that charges different prices for each kid?
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Are there any other teams besides shore 2 shore that charges different prices for each kid?


??????
Why would anyone pay $3500 to be on a 91 B team?
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Why would anyone pay $3500 to be on a 91 B team?


B team experience has everything to do with the coach. If the coach cares and it’s not a 2nd or 3rd team that the coach is doing, the chances for a better experience are higher. It’s why we chose Express this year, they brought in a new coach, it’s a lot less than 3500 this year, we are getting a ton, and the communication already has been more than all of last year on our team last year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone pay $3500 to be on a 91 B team?


B team experience has everything to do with the coach. If the coach cares and it’s not a 2nd or 3rd team that the coach is doing, the chances for a better experience are higher. It’s why we chose Express this year, they brought in a new coach, it’s a lot less than 3500 this year, we are getting a ton, and the communication already has been more than all of last year on our team last year.


Stop it. Has to be TA posting this.
91 B team, took 30 players. Even if 3 people decline. 7 attack, 7 defense, 11 middys and 2 goalies. Yeah ok. That’s sounds like a good situation.
Its all about the coach(s). The coach for Express B has been really good so far this year. Actually seems to give a garbage. Id take a B team with a good coach over an "A Team" with a real lost that dont know how to motivate kids.
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91 B team, took 30 players. Even if 3 people decline. 7 attack, 7 defense, 11 middys and 2 goalies. Yeah ok. That’s sounds like a good situation.


I don’t think everyone accepts.
30 kids is too many, A, or B. So express and 91 have B teams again. Did Igloo ring the cash register and field so some slop b team again too? Who else? Legacy? S2S? B teams should be priced 1/2 of the A teams
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 B team, took 30 players. Even if 3 people decline. 7 attack, 7 defense, 11 middys and 2 goalies. Yeah ok. That’s sounds like a good situation.


I don’t think everyone accepts.


These teams will all end up with no more than 24.
Unrealistic expectations and demand for the A team will generate a bunch of no’s...
Soon people will realize the A team is already picked prior to tryouts.
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Soon people will realize the A team is already picked prior to tryouts.


I think kids get added to these teams every year. Is there some dialogue beforehand, maybe, is there some kids added on performance, sure, I believe so. But I could be wrong
The kids added have been called over the past few weeks. This isn’t a secret.
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The kids added have been called over the past few weeks. This isn’t a secret.


That’s called recruiting. Happens in every sport at every level.
I agree it’s called recruiting. That’s why tryouts aren’t real. It looks real. Notebooks, jersey numbers, tents set up, coaches blowing whistles. But people should know the chance of making the top team at tryouts is near zero. Tryouts are for B and C teams. Tryouts are for clubs to make money.
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Its all about the coach(s). The coach for Express B has been really good so far this year. Actually seems to give a garbage. Id take a B team with a good coach over an "A Team" with a real lost that dont know how to motivate kids.


So far this season?!?! Tryouts just finished. Season hasn't even started yet, but apparently there is ice cold kool-aid to drink. Actually, I think I just saw that Express is holding supplemental tryouts
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I agree it’s called recruiting. That’s why tryouts aren’t real. It looks real. Notebooks, jersey numbers, tents set up, coaches blowing whistles. But people should know the chance of making the top team at tryouts is near zero. Tryouts are for B and C teams. Tryouts are for clubs to make money.


You are partially right. Coaches do make calls ahead based on players that they know about. Plus coaches are not looking to turn over their entire team. Usually there are only a few slots that will change. But kids can get on teams by showing up to tryouts without being called. Believe me. My kids have dome this. But as kids get older it gets harder. Less turnover. Always call and ask if you are looking at specific team how many slots and what position are open to change. Many coaches will tell you honestly. And some teams you may be invited to a practice even before tryouts.
When you say call ahead and ask what positions are open for change, what does that actually mean. They will say all positions are open. Clubs need to fill secondary teams and want tryout fees as well. Say for example the A team wants 6 kids at defense. Let’s say 24 kids register for tryouts who play defense. They have 4 real good defenseman returning from last year, 1 of the 24 is a coaches kid, 1 of the 24 is recruited kid. That means that all 6 slots are filled before you even drive into the parking lot. That means 18 of those kids are trying out for the B team. Most parents don’t know this.
When teams are having supplemental tryouts they are either having problems or ringing the cash register
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When you say call ahead and ask what positions are open for change, what does that actually mean. They will say all positions are open. Clubs need to fill secondary teams and want tryout fees as well. Say for example the A team wants 6 kids at defense. Let’s say 24 kids register for tryouts who play defense. They have 4 real good defenseman returning from last year, 1 of the 24 is a coaches kid, 1 of the 24 is recruited kid. That means that all 6 slots are filled before you even drive into the parking lot. That means 18 of those kids are trying out for the B team. Most parents don’t know this.



It depends on the club. Last year I spoke with a director of a club about one of my kids and they told me they weren’t making any changes in that position on the A team. This year I spoke with a director from a different club about another one of my kids and he flat out told me it would be very hard to break into the A team at that position unless my kid was an absolute stud (he’s not). But he did invite him to a practice if we were seriously interested.

Neither club was 91 or Express. They’ll tell you to come on down to tryouts and take your money without an honest conversation ( I know from experience ).

You can also ask to speak with the coach. They can be more honest than the club if they aren’t an owner. If you do speak with the coach, remember that your kids evaluation starts the moment you begin speaking. No coach wants a pain in the @ss parent.
Who else is running secondary tryouts at this point?
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Its all about the coach(s). The coach for Express B has been really good so far this year. Actually seems to give a garbage. Id take a B team with a good coach over an "A Team" with a real lost that dont know how to motivate kids.


So far this season?!?! Tryouts just finished. Season hasn't even started yet, but apparently there is ice cold kool-aid to drink. Actually, I think I just saw that Express is holding supplemental tryouts


pure daddy ball, only cares about one player, horrible coach, you'll see...
Which team? Seems there is a ton of daddy Ball going on at the big "Name" programs
If the sons coach is on the team - BUYER BEWARE!! It never turns out good.
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If the sons coach is on the team - BUYER BEWARE!! It never turns out good.


The coach's son is almost ALWAYS on the team. Outside of Express (Coach C only), where else is it not daddy ball?
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Who else is running secondary tryouts at this point?

Igloo still trying to put together a primary team at this point!
So true, Say what you want about Coach C, certainly no daddy ball issues. All the other teams have some form of daddy ball. Some of those dads know, if they didn’t coach, their son wouldn’t be on the team or they wouldn’t play a significant amount.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the sons coach is on the team - BUYER BEWARE!! It never turns out good.


The coach's son is almost ALWAYS on the team. Outside of Express (Coach C only), where else is it not daddy ball?



Express brought over at least 2 possibly 3 Daddy coaches for this coming year.
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Who else is running secondary tryouts at this point?

Outlaws, Rebels, S2S, Express

I'm sure there are others
Igloo still dont have a final team? why is that? I heard that program is a disaster and is heading down fast. I didnt even let my son tryout based on the stories I heard. Talk about daddy ball....
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Igloo still dont have a final team? why is that? .


If you know the answer, why did you even ask?!
go to the 20th tryout they're hosting Maybe you can both get spots
the problem is all of these program employ coaches who have kids in the program, even at other ages. And their kids (aside from maybe Spallina and a handful of others) usually stink or don't want to play. Parents don't have the green to pay for a program.... so you have this incestuous setup.

So you get parents who pay $3k plus sitting there saying... why is this fool on the field over my kid? the answer is simple...
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the problem is all of these program employ coaches who have kids in the program, even at other ages. And their kids (aside from maybe Spallina and a handful of others) usually stink or don't want to play. Parents don't have the green to pay for a program.... so you have this incestuous setup.

So you get parents who pay $3k plus sitting there saying... why is this fool on the field over my kid? the answer is simple...


Parents on Express B will be pondering this exact question
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the sons coach is on the team - BUYER BEWARE!! It never turns out good.


The coach's son is almost ALWAYS on the team. Outside of Express (Coach C only), where else is it not daddy ball?



Express brought over at least 2 possibly 3 Daddy coaches for this coming year.


No they didn't. Fake news
Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?
First? stop.... They were never "first" not at least in this age group. Just a name from days gone by. Just like Igloo, Ducks, etc They are all horrible. Either your Express or 91...or you aint....
I guess you have it all figured out let me know how you feel when the college coaches come around and little Johnny is sitting on the bench .
I'll be sure to tell my 12 year old that because he's not on Express or 91 that he should quit a sport he loves. Thanks
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Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?


Geese are in bad shape. All of their top players have jumped ship. Just left with a few decent players. They were a legit team a couple of years ago in this age group. Now you just feel bad for the players who stayed behind.
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I'll be sure to tell my 12 year old that because he's not on Express or 91 that he should quit a sport he loves. Thanks

Good point. Although for 3 to 4 grand and a willingness to be one of 35+, you too can have your son practice with Express.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?


Geese are in bad shape. All of their top players have jumped ship. Just left with a few decent players. They were a legit team a couple of years ago in this age group. Now you just feel bad for the players who stayed behind.
2025 group is the worst. 1 good team out there on lonh island. Parents just dont get it. GO to the wiining team all they care about. if if my son does not play Joke..
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Igloo still dont have a final team? why is that? I heard that program is a disaster and is heading down fast. I didnt even let my son tryout based on the stories I heard. Talk about daddy ball....

The simple answer is, they didn't get enough out of their roster. Call it Daddy ball, poor coaching, nepotism, cliques, whatever. The players on the field didn't make enough plays to win. Lots of turnover this year, but remains to be seen what the outcome will be. Igloo had a good run with their older teams but have struggled lately staying relevant with their young teams in AA. I don't see this group doing much but wish them luck.
They are going backwards based on stories I heard. Supposedly theres another "tryout" session for attack kids only. A dad I I know who's kid still plays there said they apparently they shot themselfs in the foot with one kid and another kid shot them on short notice. and jumped ship to 91. Great job. Theres a reason they are terrible. i hope they do beter too but I doubt it. Say what you want about lesser known clubs but at least they seem to handle their business much better. True Blue had no problem filling their roster.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?


Geese are in bad shape. All of their top players have jumped ship. Just left with a few decent players. They were a legit team a couple of years ago in this age group. Now you just feel bad for the players who stayed behind.


There were a handful of players who left. Most stayed and are still staying. I have watched this team. There are good players on this team. But like anything else they need to really work hard practicing to be competitive. They need to step it up. You can tell when you watch if kids are going home hitting the wall, doing extra clinics, etc... That's what makes the difference between the talented kid and the great kid. And kids who do that will gravitate to teams with like minded kids. It's not just about hanging out anymore with your friends and playing. It's a mindset. Geese have talented kids, most of them. They just need to get the right mindset. And they can come back. I would not count them out.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?


Geese are in bad shape. All of their top players have jumped ship. Just left with a few decent players. They were a legit team a couple of years ago in this age group. Now you just feel bad for the players who stayed behind.


There were a handful of players who left. Most stayed and are still staying. I have watched this team. There are good players on this team. But like anything else they need to really work hard practicing to be competitive. They need to step it up. You can tell when you watch if kids are going home hitting the wall, doing extra clinics, etc... That's what makes the difference between the talented kid and the great kid. And kids who do that will gravitate to teams with like minded kids. It's not just about hanging out anymore with your friends and playing. It's a mindset. Geese have talented kids, most of them. They just need to get the right mindset. And they can come back. I would not count them out.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Geese Fold? Went from first to worst in one season what happened?


Geese are in bad shape. All of their top players have jumped ship. Just left with a few decent players. They were a legit team a couple of years ago in this age group. Now you just feel bad for the players who stayed behind.


There were a handful of players who left. Most stayed and are still staying. I have watched this team. There are good players on this team. But like anything else they need to really work hard practicing to be competitive. They need to step it up. You can tell when you watch if kids are going home hitting the wall, doing extra clinics, etc... That's what makes the difference between the talented kid and the great kid. And kids who do that will gravitate to teams with like minded kids. It's not just about hanging out anymore with your friends and playing. It's a mindset. Geese have talented kids, most of them. They just need to get the right mindset. And they can come back. I would not count them out.


Sure they can. I believe they can be competitive on a single A level. But they had the best team and now that has dismantled for one reason or another. Really not important at this point. But it will take a large influx of talent, in addition to the hard work. Just let the coaches coach and the kids play and don’t weigh things down with unrealistic expectations. No team, at least for this year, is catching up to Express or even 91. There is a large gap down from there.
Who coaches the Geese I heard they are looking for middies.
I feel worse for the players who don’t have the guts to play against the “better” teams, and instead are guided by parents who are teaching them to cut and run instead of stay and work. They can be very proud that they “joined” a better team.
Has anyone heard about a new team out of Huntington called the Regulators? Any good?
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I feel worse for the players who don’t have the guts to play against the “better” teams, and instead are guided by parents who are teaching them to cut and run instead of stay and work. They can be very proud that they “joined” a better team.


When your team can only manage to score two goals against Roar and lose multiple times to them as well as Force then its time to reassess options. If 91 wants a big fast athletic attack why not?
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They are going backwards based on stories I heard. Supposedly theres another "tryout" session for attack kids only. A dad I I know who's kid still plays there said they apparently they shot themselfs in the foot with one kid and another kid shot them on short notice. and jumped ship to 91. Great job. Theres a reason they are terrible. i hope they do beter too but I doubt it. Say what you want about lesser known clubs but at least they seem to handle their business much better. True Blue had no problem filling their roster.


Seems like Igloo and Geese should team up. Igloo this year sounds very similar to what we were all hearing about the Geese at the start of last year!!!
Regulators are the ROAR team that has been re branded. They had invitation only try outs trying to create an "elite" team that plans to make run at WSYL, Naptown and HOCO this year.
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Regulators are the ROAR team that has been re branded. They had invitation only try outs trying to create an "elite" team that plans to make run at WSYL, Naptown and HOCO this year.


That’s ambitious. They probably won’t get out of the North region. You can’t just create an elite team.
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.
Sounds like parents should put stop-payments on their checks...just sayin........
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FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


So where can information be found about trying out for the regulator lacrosse team?
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FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


I agree
Regulators will have a CSH core but they are opening spots up to all. Roar will exist as just csh and Regulators will be a step up with more outside talent.
If your son did not receive an invite he can not tryout for this team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


I agree
That maybe the funiiest thing i ever heard. That team wont even make it to the Quaters.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


I agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


I agree



They will probably be decent but there will also probably be alot of sideline parent drama as those CSH parents are gonna be bent that lil johnny didnt get hand picked for this new team..
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FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


So who is this coach with the magic touch? You can use the names of adults on this board, just not kids.
Spoken like a true 91 parent. Keep getting on your knees for your beloved BS while thinking your going to the wsyl this year, lol. Have fun getting beat by town teams again.

When CSH beat team 91 AA this past season you could hear parents from 8 miles away saying "that was a fluke", "that will never happen again", "it was somebody else fault", "the russians interfered"....they should rename 91 the hillary clinton lacrosse club
That doesnt make much sense, if a kid doesnt get picked for the team why would the parents of that kid be on the sideline? Also, are you saying there is no drama on every other lacrosse team sideline?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


So who is this coach with the magic touch? You can use the names of adults on this board, just not kids.


2026 Express didn't play 91 in the past year...just saying. If it's BT, then yes he's an awesome coach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


So who is this coach with the magic touch? You can use the names of adults on this board, just not kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI- this regulator team has a phenomenal coach. His 2025 CSH town team beat team 91 AA team this past season. His Express 2026 team beats Team 91 Orange regularly. Awesome coach. And from what I am hearing its not a CSH invite only team if it was he would just keep it as CSH roar. This will be a team built for the WSYL. Anybody that has a chance to get on the team should take it. As i mentioned the coach is phenomenal, he works wonders with the kids and gets results without jumping up and down on the sidelines and screaming like someone just died.


So who is this coach with the magic touch? You can use the names of adults on this board, just not kids.


BT
Regulators roster is made up of kids from all over LI not CSH. Coach BT has been a busy man recruiting kids for this team.
Just an FYI- 2026 got a beat down from BT express team last year. Once 91 realized that they were in a losing battle they set up the tournaments to avoid express 2026 this year . That’s a fact. So express had to play the Maryland teams and Massachusetts teams while 91 2026 orange played lollipop teams to get to semis then lose. Another sad butt strategy by the pathetic 91 corporation
I’m a fan of the underdog. I loved when roar with their 500 dollar tuition beat 91. I wish more towns did what roar did. Start early and play together as a town travel team. If you have a great, committed, non daddy ball coach, it can be done. Hopefully he can grab 2 committed , non daddy ball assistants. Once those 2 things are done(not easy), you need parents and kids who are all in on this. It’s very possible that a team like this can do really well. Maybe not WSYL , but still do real well. Starting an organization is hard, a team for a particular grade, not very hard. Parents think if my kid isn’t on a top team, he can’t play in college. You couldn’t be more wrong. My oldest guy was on a club that lost a lot. He was all league as a junior in high school, all county as a senior. He is playing division 1 lacrosse now. Nobody cares what his youth teams won/loss record was. Nobody cares. In 3 years, he will he interviewing for jobs like everyone else. Maybe he will make a few bucks giving lessons or at a camp, but that’s it. I’ve been through this before with my oldest, don’t go insane over this stuff.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spoken like a true 91 parent. Keep getting on your knees for your beloved BS while thinking your going to the wsyl this year, lol. Have fun getting beat by town teams again.

When CSH beat team 91 AA this past season you could hear parents from 8 miles away saying "that was a fluke", "that will never happen again", "it was somebody else fault", "the russians interfered"....they should rename 91 the hillary clinton lacrosse club


If you saw them play, you know that Roar and 91 played twice and split the games. In other events 91 also beat Express and Hawks and HHH this year, HUGE and well deserved win for Roar, but then they lost to S2S, didn’t they?

91 problems are their crazy inconsistencies. It’s because of the hundreds of Coaches. Those guys are all over the map. It shows with how they play. Will that get fixed this new year?
Nothing I hate more then some stunad coming on here and making sense, I already miss the comedy!
Come on Dude. So clearly self promotion. Aren’t you smarter than that? So if you come out and get crushed people are going to destroy you on this board which will embarrass your son. You know what they say...speak softly and carry a big stick. Guess some guys don’t have the stick...
Right.....somebody comes on here and states facts about a great coach and it's self promotion .....go back to your knees for coach BS fool
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spoken like a true 91 parent. Keep getting on your knees for your beloved BS while thinking your going to the wsyl this year, lol. Have fun getting beat by town teams again.

When CSH beat team 91 AA this past season you could hear parents from 8 miles away saying "that was a fluke", "that will never happen again", "it was somebody else fault", "the russians interfered"....they should rename 91 the hillary clinton lacrosse club


If you saw them play, you know that Roar and 91 played twice and split the games. In other events 91 also beat Express and Hawks and HHH this year, HUGE and well deserved win for Roar, but then they lost to S2S, didn’t they?

91 problems are their crazy inconsistencies. It’s because of the hundreds of Coaches. Those guys are all over the map. It shows with how they play. Will that get fixed this new year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spoken like a true 91 parent. Keep getting on your knees for your beloved BS while thinking your going to the wsyl this year, lol. Have fun getting beat by town teams again.

When CSH beat team 91 AA this past season you could hear parents from 8 miles away saying "that was a fluke", "that will never happen again", "it was somebody else fault", "the russians interfered"....they should rename 91 the hillary clinton lacrosse club


If you saw them play, you know that Roar and 91 played twice and split the games. In other events 91 also beat Express and Hawks and HHH this year, HUGE and well deserved win for Roar, but then they lost to S2S, didn’t they?

91 problems are their crazy inconsistencies. It’s because of the hundreds of Coaches. Those guys are all over the map. It shows with how they play. Will that get fixed this new year?


Everyone stop with the Roar regulator nonsense. Nobody cares about last year or cross team comparisons . Keep a lid on it until you play this fall and judge those results. We hear the same stuff every August about other teams.
Let’s see Regulators against the Mixed Nuts! For the people’s championship !!!!
So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?


91
Express
Igloo
S2S
Force
rebels
Rebels (new)
24, Hitmen and Recon are second tier teams and play B.

Those are most of the teams that made up the B brackets last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?


91
Express
Igloo
S2S
Force
R$sh
Rebels (new)
24, Hitmen and Recon are second tier teams and play B.

Those are most of the teams that made up the B brackets last year.


With all due respect, Some of the A teams were Really B teams in disguise...Which makes those B teams C teams frown
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So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?


Geese is Legacy’s B team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?


Geese is Legacy’s B team?


S2S's B team was an absolute joke last year. The coach and probably a few players are jumping to Express B this year and will be just as bad if not worse. Another B team that might be worth a look is Turtles?
Empire is also a good choice to look in to
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How are Vipers (out of Bethpage)?


They don't have any teams anymore but they will at times assemble Bethpage players in their uniforms & TBH, when they do this, they are low b/c level team (if they assemble players from their PAL and friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So seriously, second teams ---- is there still a Legacy, Igloo, Express B team? I heard S2S has 3?


Geese is Legacy’s B team?


S2S's B team was an absolute joke last year. The coach and probably a few players are jumping to Express B this year and will be just as bad if not worse. Another B team that might be worth a look is Turtles?


What does that mean? “Worth a look” tryouts are over and we should assume the roster is set. Or is it invites went out and families are moving in and the roster is thin? I would think all rosters are pretty much set at this point? If not, good luck trying to fill.
B teams like that will have roster spots available well into September and beyond. If they can get a good player it doesn't matter how far into the season it is.
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B teams like that will have roster spots available well into September and beyond. If they can get a good player it doesn't matter how far into the season it is.


Like what?
Adults who rate 7th-grade lacrosse are truly pathetic.
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold rebels
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
rebels Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Who is doing the ratings? BOTC parents who treat kiddie lacrosse like it's the second coming? Give me a break, nothing more than a bunch of "never played, know nothing, washwomen"
In almost every case the father beating his chest about his son and his sons team and how great they are is the dad with NOTHING to speak of on his own lacrosse or athletic resume. The loudest talkers are almost always the least secure who have never been there or done that.
were any of S2S's teams not a joke?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.
It’s August. How bout holding off with the rankings for awhile. Don’t you think that makes sense. Each team gained and lost players.
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It’s August. How bout holding off with the rankings for awhile. Don’t you think that makes sense. Each team gained and lost players.


After tryouts 91 dropped to around Roar.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.


My guess is at the upper tiers nothing really changes. All the shifting is at B level because those players are always looking for greener grass because the top of the b roster vs the bottom is wider than A teams and parents grow frustrated. Club is watered down not by the amount of players, that’s good for the game. It’s parents that put their kids in multi travel sports. It’s a just sign their kids up for everything mentality these days. Play all sports, definitely. But two travel teams in two sports is too much at the age imho
Here's the real rankings

http://www.USCL.com/rankings.html
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
Icon





Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.

How is Igloo that high?
Probably because they are ranking Igloo based on name only. Sort of like 91 but at east they are still legit. That igloo team was a complete mess from the coaches all the way down to SOME of the parents. And this year, based on the gossip, will be no different, if not worse. They are a lower level B team if that. Express trumps the entire class. It aint even close....
RANKING 12 YEAR OLD TEAMS... WOW WHO CARES .. GO TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS HOW GREAT YOUR SONS TEAM IS .... PATHETIC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here's the real rankings

http://www.USCL.com/rankings.html


http://www.USCL.com/us-club-lacrosse-rankings.html
Think you have it backwards. Best two teams other than 91 and Express are Hawks and Gold Rupoop.
Hawks beat both Force A and Roar this year, did not play Igloo.
Gold Rupoop is right there too.
Both teams can compete with the Big two, but depth is where they lose out.


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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.
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End result is the same. Only difference is the price you pay. ROAR was actually decent and punished Igloo multiple times and Force beat them too. If anything, drop igloo to the next lower tier so you can then compare puke, vomit and throw-up......
If I recall Force was 3-1 vs rebels last year. Both good teams. I do think out of the second tier teams they can all beat each other on any given day. It’s good competitive lacrosse.
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If I recall Force was 3-1 vs R$sh last year. Both good teams. I do think out of the second tier teams they can all beat each other on any given day. It’s good competitive lacrosse.


The Force team in spring at Blatant was clearly very different by the time they started tournaments in June. By June Force had clearly improved or brought on better players. Or both. And even in spring Blatant Force beat R$sh.

Probably true S2S Hawks should be up with Force and Roar . They were competitive.

Igloo was up and down. All over the place. But if you watched them you could see they had good players. Gut feeling is because they are so town based and coaching had been iffy that Igloo will actually be low A's this year.

Besides 91 and Express the teams to watch would be Force, S2S Hawks and Roar. Maybe R$sh. But that's questionable.
Rebels are improved, but not with top 2. Will compete with all others. Hope all teams are at Blatant or tri star
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels are improved, but not with top 2. Will compete with all others. Hope all teams are at Blatant or tri star


The posts above were referring to R$sh not Rebels. There is a glitch on this forum that print R$sh wrong as Rebels.

Rebels team is not competitive with A bracket teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels are improved, but not with top 2. Will compete with all others. Hope all teams are at Blatant or tri star


What does that mean. So did they get top players from other teams? Adding 2nd line kids adds depth, but won’t make the team that much better. Get a starter or two from 91 or Express will be an improvement, but doubt that happened. Sorry to be blunt, but that’s the way it is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.




So true. Back a few years ago, I knew a kid that didn’t make either of the Team 91 A or B teams. He ended up on the Express B team. This was during the MS years. Stayed with that B team through HS. Long story short, that kid was the Suffolk County Midi of the Year his senior year and an All American. Not bad for a B team player!
That’s great!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.




So true. Back a few years ago, I knew a kid that didn’t make either of the Team 91 A or B teams. He ended up on the Express B team. This was during the MS years. Stayed with that B team through HS. Long story short, that kid was the Suffolk County Midi of the Year his senior year and an All American. Not bad for a B team player!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.




So true. Back a few years ago, I knew a kid that didn’t make either of the Team 91 A or B teams. He ended up on the Express B team. This was during the MS years. Stayed with that B team through HS. Long story short, that kid was the Suffolk County Midi of the Year his senior year and an All American. Not bad for a B team player!


There is B players and kids that are in between. All the in betweeners want that elite AA team. Usually the kid can hang with the team in practice, but can’t get playing time. That is okay. Go find a good team A or B with solid players and good coaching and you’ll enjoy these next 4 years, and so will your son. It’s actually the best path to the AA teams. But likely, by that time, you’ll be happy right where you are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.



Well said.
100% correct. Practice and training are very important but so is competitive game playing time. Especially at this age. Go where you are going to get good training and get playing time in games.
It's nice to finally hear some positive feedback on this forum. The whole point of this is to be helpful instead all the negativity. We should all want these boys to develop and actually get to play in games, what a novel idea? Lacrosse is a great sport. We should focus on working hard, having fun, making friends and memories. Last I checked, nobody was handing out nine figure contracts to play pro lax like we see in other sports. So let's not get too crazy.
And where is that? And where is that not the case?
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Time will tell all. Kinda quiet this year throughout the tryouts. Every player should have a roster spot by now. If not, that magical invite is likely not coming and supplementals won’t matter. The A teams don’t miss the better players at the first tryouts. If your son didn’t make the A team, it’s because he needs to improve or hasn’t developed his game as quick as other players. Despite what your may think. It’s okay to get cut, LI produces the best players in the country. Go find the right team where his confidence will soar and it will pay dividends.




So true. Back a few years ago, I knew a kid that didn’t make either of the Team 91 A or B teams. He ended up on the Express B team. This was during the MS years. Stayed with that B team through HS. Long story short, that kid was the Suffolk County Midi of the Year his senior year and an All American. Not bad for a B team player!


Moral of the story is it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond, than the other way around. Sure, practicing with A level players is nice, but there is no replacement for games experience. Wins and losses and which team your kid plays on right now, in the grand scheme of things, does not matter. At all. This time is for development. Make sure your kid is maximizing his development, which includes a while lot of game experience.
Did the Geese fold?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Why does Rebels B team have a varsity coach. But their A team has no real head coach. That's ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Geese fold?


Dude you must have been rejected by Geese in the past. Because you have a desperate need to create this false narrative.

Geese are fine. Their tournaments for fall are on their website if you feel like going to watch.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Geese fold?


Dude you must have been rejected by Geese in the past. Because you have a desperate need to create this false narrative.

Geese are fine. Their tournaments for fall are on their website if you feel like going to watch.
Get over yourself guy, enough with your personal vendetta against the Geese. Worry about your own kid At 91 .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Geese fold?


Dude you must have been rejected by Geese in the past. Because you have a desperate need to create this false narrative.

Geese are fine. Their tournaments for fall are on their website if you feel like going to watch.
Get over yourself guy, enough with your personal vendetta against the Geese. Worry about your own kid At 91 .

No personal vendetta and my son does not play for 91.
Geese didnt fold but I heard another prominent name may!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Geese fold?


Dude you must have been rejected by Geese in the past. Because you have a desperate need to create this false narrative.

Geese are fine. Their tournaments for fall are on their website if you feel like going to watch.
Get over yourself guy, enough with your personal vendetta against the Geese. Worry about your own kid At 91 .

No personal vendetta and my son does not play for 91.


My son doesn’t play for Legacy, but why so obnoxious towards the Geese? Sorry, but it reads that way. They have a team, has there been a talent exit, yes. Everyone knows that, just let them be. The team will probably be better off and happier. Who cares if they are not a AA team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Why does Rebels B team have a varsity coach. But their A team has no real head coach. That's ridiculous.

Do you play for Rebels or just stirring the pot? Worry about your own team. For the record, we all know who our coach is. We would like to thank all those Daddy coached A teams for letting their players leave and join us.
You heard nothing. You sound like a wash woman.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Why does Rebels B team have a varsity coach. But their A team has no real head coach. That's ridiculous.

Do you play for Rebels or just stirring the pot? Worry about your own team. For the record, we all know who our coach is. We would like to thank all those Daddy coached A teams for letting their players leave and join us.


Not part of Rebels. Just commenting on a topic brought up in this forum. And based on your reaction, it clearly appears to a sensitive point and an issue for the Rebels team.
Looks like Rebels is currently listing a college kid as your head coach. Yet the B team on Rebels has an experienced Varsity coach.
Hey if your happy paying 3k for that, good luck.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the Geese fold?


Dude you must have been rejected by Geese in the past. Because you have a desperate need to create this false narrative.

Geese are fine. Their tournaments for fall are on their website if you feel like going to watch.
Get over yourself guy, enough with your personal vendetta against the Geese. Worry about your own kid At 91 .

No personal vendetta and my son does not play for 91.


My son doesn’t play for Legacy, but why so obnoxious towards the Geese? Sorry, but it reads that way. They have a team, has there been a talent exit, yes. Everyone knows that, just let them be. The team will probably be better off and happier. Who cares if they are not a AA team.


Totally agree. People say they dont have a vendetta but clearly feel a need stir up baseless rumors about the team.
And from year to year noone knows who will be the better teams. Certainly the past couple years has shown some real surprises.
Hope all kids have found a team that fits and that they all have fun and learn a lot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Why does Rebels B team have a varsity coach. But their A team has no real head coach. That's ridiculous.

Do you play for Rebels or just stirring the pot? Worry about your own team. For the record, we all know who our coach is. We would like to thank all those Daddy coached A teams for letting their players leave and join us.


Not part of Rebels. Just commenting on a topic brought up in this forum. And based on your reaction, it clearly appears to a sensitive point and an issue for the Rebels team.
Looks like Rebels is currently listing a college kid as your head coach. Yet the B team on Rebels has an experienced Varsity coach.
Hey if your happy paying 3k for that, good luck.

Hey if you're happy with trolling other teams threads and commenting on things that don't concern you, than have a nice life as well. another keyboard tough guy. You're the same guy who stands on the sidelines criticizing everyone and everything until the coaches come over and you clam up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels should be good. Grabbed a bunch of really good players. Now they just need a coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂


Why does Rebels B team have a varsity coach. But their A team has no real head coach. That's ridiculous.

Do you play for Rebels or just stirring the pot? Worry about your own team. For the record, we all know who our coach is. We would like to thank all those Daddy coached A teams for letting their players leave and join us.


Not part of Rebels. Just commenting on a topic brought up in this forum. And based on your reaction, it clearly appears to a sensitive point and an issue for the Rebels team.
Looks like Rebels is currently listing a college kid as your head coach. Yet the B team on Rebels has an experienced Varsity coach.
Hey if your happy paying 3k for that, good luck.

Hey if you're happy with trolling other teams threads and commenting on things that don't concern you, than have a nice life as well. another keyboard tough guy. You're the same guy who stands on the sidelines criticizing everyone and everything until the coaches come over and you clam up.


Your insecurity is too funny. As I said I didnt start this conversation. One of your own started it trying to say you picked up some good players but you needed a head coach. And based on your responses it seems clear you have head coach problems.
I only responded on the thread with an observation. It's not trolling when you respond in a conversation on a thread brought up by another person, especially one of your own.
I suggest if you want no comments, you tighten up the loose mouths inside your team.
BTW, that "college kid" did a great job and seemed far better than any of these older guys at other clubs who's better days have past them by . And he sure beats daddy ball. Leave him as the Head coach and I bet Rebels would run thru teams with "Non College Kid" coaches. At this age the kids can, or should be able to play without some has-been college player reliving his glory days while barking out instructions every second of the game. Thats a losers game at this age. If your coach is doing that then he should fire himself, apologize to the kids and give you your money back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BTW, that "college kid" did a great job and seemed far better than any of these older guys at other clubs who's better days have past them by . And he sure beats daddy ball. Leave him as the Head coach and I bet Rebels would run thru teams with "Non College Kid" coaches. At this age the kids can, or should be able to play without some has-been college player reliving his glory days while barking out instructions every second of the game. Thats a losers game at this age. If your coach is doing that then he should fire himself, apologize to the kids and give you your money back.


What if hes fat, old and shows up only half the time?
It is shortsighted and myopic of you to discount the knowledge and coaching ability of someone a bit more seasoned shall we say. Ridiculous in fact. Some of the best coaches have many years and much experience behind them and have kept up with the game. Sorry you had a bad experience with your has been coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BTW, that "college kid" did a great job and seemed far better than any of these older guys at other clubs who's better days have past them by . And he sure beats daddy ball. Leave him as the Head coach and I bet Rebels would run thru teams with "Non College Kid" coaches. At this age the kids can, or should be able to play without some has-been college player reliving his glory days while barking out instructions every second of the game. Thats a losers game at this age. If your coach is doing that then he should fire himself, apologize to the kids and give you your money back.


Did a great job at what? Playing lacrosse? He just left college. He has no coaching experience to judge by. This is an absolutely absurd statement to think in any way he compares to experienced older and varsity coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is shortsighted and myopic of you to discount the knowledge and coaching ability of someone a bit more seasoned shall we say. Ridiculous in fact. Some of the best coaches have many years and much experience behind them and have kept up with the game. Sorry you had a bad experience with your has been coach.


You are dead on correct. Not saying that a talented kid cant over time turn into a great coach. But comparing him to experienced coaches is way off the mark. Being a player and being a coach require different skills. And experience under more seasoned coaches makes a difference.
I find all this talk about "AA" teams hysterical. Express and 91 are clearly very good in comparison to the other club teams on Long Island. It appears they won the game of musical chairs for this age group But that's not good enough, apparently, for those obsessed with organizational status seeking for their prepubescent kid. We must also be subjected to their opinion on what other teams are A or A minus quality, and who left what club and why. And how do they know this? Because these adults, who are not coaches or directors and who presumably have jobs and lives of their own, are actually engaged in the process of rating 12 year old boys. Which is weird, but also amusing and disturbing at the same time. So your budding future ex-college superstar/entry-level mail room employee plays for a "true" AA team. We understand that you're very, very proud and that this is a very, very big deal. "Express or 91 - there's a big drop off after that!" you say. "He's self-selected with other boys of his caliber, and he gets to play with other "true" AA talent" you also say. Fantastic. But, while your envy-worthy son is playing with other AA talent, the other boys on the teams you ridicule are playing against it. Fighting, coming up short, fighting again, learning. Getting better. Getting better because they're playing better competition. You don't learn much winning 12-4, especially if you're three deep on a line. Maybe the kids on these A or A minus teams are not worthy at this point in their career of making that list you made up in your head, but who said being the best 12 year old was the point of this exercise, anyway? At the end of the day, all these LI club teams play each other. No one is being airlifted out to play on another level with "better teams"- they're all in the same circle. The difference between them is not as great as you'd like to think, when compared to the hundreds of other club teams nationwide. The question is: is your son growing and learning? And there's a bunch of us who think that playing against the "better" talent is better than playing with it. Anyway, mark my words. I give it two years before someone on this board makes the following statement: "Express and 91 are the only true elite AAA teams. The rest are maybe AA, single A at best."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find all this talk about "AA" teams hysterical. Express and 91 are clearly very good in comparison to the other club teams on Long Island. It appears they won the game of musical chairs for this age group But that's not good enough, apparently, for those obsessed with organizational status seeking for their prepubescent kid. We must also be subjected to their opinion on what other teams are A or A minus quality, and who left what club and why. And how do they know this? Because these adults, who are not coaches or directors and who presumably have jobs and lives of their own, are actually engaged in the process of rating 12 year old boys. Which is weird, but also amusing and disturbing at the same time. So your budding future ex-college superstar/entry-level mail room employee plays for a "true" AA team. We understand that you're very, very proud and that this is a very, very big deal. "Express or 91 - there's a big drop off after that!" you say. "He's self-selected with other boys of his caliber, and he gets to play with other "true" AA talent" you also say. Fantastic. But, while your envy-worthy son is playing with other AA talent, the other boys on the teams you ridicule are playing against it. Fighting, coming up short, fighting again, learning. Getting better. Getting better because they're playing better competition. You don't learn much winning 12-4, especially if you're three deep on a line. Maybe the kids on these A or A minus teams are not worthy at this point in their career of making that list you made up in your head, but who said being the best 12 year old was the point of this exercise, anyway? At the end of the day, all these LI club teams play each other. No one is being airlifted out to play on another level with "better teams"- they're all in the same circle. The difference between them is not as great as you'd like to think, when compared to the hundreds of other club teams nationwide. The question is: is your son growing and learning? And there's a bunch of us who think that playing against the "better" talent is better than playing with it. Anyway, mark my words. I give it two years before someone on this board makes the following statement: "Express and 91 are the only true elite AAA teams. The rest are maybe AA, single A at best."

lets keep making more divisions by adding "A" to it.
That is more ridiculous than anything that these nuts for parents can't justify their child not on an "A" team.Now we've gone to AAA,AA, A..what a joke
I would rather my son score 4 goals against express or 91 than 4 goals with them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find all this talk about "AA" teams hysterical. Express and 91 are clearly very good in comparison to the other club teams on Long Island. It appears they won the game of musical chairs for this age group But that's not good enough, apparently, for those obsessed with organizational status seeking for their prepubescent kid. We must also be subjected to their opinion on what other teams are A or A minus quality, and who left what club and why. And how do they know this? Because these adults, who are not coaches or directors and who presumably have jobs and lives of their own, are actually engaged in the process of rating 12 year old boys. Which is weird, but also amusing and disturbing at the same time. So your budding future ex-college superstar/entry-level mail room employee plays for a "true" AA team. We understand that you're very, very proud and that this is a very, very big deal. "Express or 91 - there's a big drop off after that!" you say. "He's self-selected with other boys of his caliber, and he gets to play with other "true" AA talent" you also say. Fantastic. But, while your envy-worthy son is playing with other AA talent, the other boys on the teams you ridicule are playing against it. Fighting, coming up short, fighting again, learning. Getting better. Getting better because they're playing better competition. You don't learn much winning 12-4, especially if you're three deep on a line. Maybe the kids on these A or A minus teams are not worthy at this point in their career of making that list you made up in your head, but who said being the best 12 year old was the point of this exercise, anyway? At the end of the day, all these LI club teams play each other. No one is being airlifted out to play on another level with "better teams"- they're all in the same circle. The difference between them is not as great as you'd like to think, when compared to the hundreds of other club teams nationwide. The question is: is your son growing and learning? And there's a bunch of us who think that playing against the "better" talent is better than playing with it. Anyway, mark my words. I give it two years before someone on this board makes the following statement: "Express and 91 are the only true elite AAA
teams. The rest are maybe AA, single A at best."


I find the ranking posts just conversational and light hearted. It doesn’t mean anything, but it seems to irritate some.. People will often share their opinions, as you have, on blogs. All good, imho, I don’t even mind the self promoting or people taking about how great the team is. I only posts that insult a teams ability, I find annoying, but whatever.
Express is already practicing 3x a week. They are taking the WSYL seriously!
Im starting a team thats AAA, whos in?
Its Youth Lacrosse! It is Supposed to be for fun. Parents and coaches fall into the trap and stink the life out of it for the kids. It is what it is. At least the forums are entertaining if nothing else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find all this talk about "AA" teams hysterical. Express and 91 are clearly very good in comparison to the other club teams on Long Island. It appears they won the game of musical chairs for this age group But that's not good enough, apparently, for those obsessed with organizational status seeking for their prepubescent kid. We must also be subjected to their opinion on what other teams are A or A minus quality, and who left what club and why. And how do they know this? Because these adults, who are not coaches or directors and who presumably have jobs and lives of their own, are actually engaged in the process of rating 12 year old boys. Which is weird, but also amusing and disturbing at the same time. So your budding future ex-college superstar/entry-level mail room employee plays for a "true" AA team. We understand that you're very, very proud and that this is a very, very big deal. "Express or 91 - there's a big drop off after that!" you say. "He's self-selected with other boys of his caliber, and he gets to play with other "true" AA talent" you also say. Fantastic. But, while your envy-worthy son is playing with other AA talent, the other boys on the teams you ridicule are playing against it. Fighting, coming up short, fighting again, learning. Getting better. Getting better because they're playing better competition. You don't learn much winning 12-4, especially if you're three deep on a line. Maybe the kids on these A or A minus teams are not worthy at this point in their career of making that list you made up in your head, but who said being the best 12 year old was the point of this exercise, anyway? At the end of the day, all these LI club teams play each other. No one is being airlifted out to play on another level with "better teams"- they're all in the same circle. The difference between them is not as great as you'd like to think, when compared to the hundreds of other club teams nationwide. The question is: is your son growing and learning? And there's a bunch of us who think that playing against the "better" talent is better than playing with it. Anyway, mark my words. I give it two years before someone on this board makes the following statement: "Express and 91 are the only true elite AAA teams. The rest are maybe AA, single A at best."

lets keep making more divisions by adding "A" to it.
That is more ridiculous than anything that these nuts for parents can't justify their child not on an "A" team.Now we've gone to AAA,AA, A..what a joke


I agree. The classification of AA us just a means by which the larger clubs are trying to sell tgeir2nd and 3rd teams. All of which generally end upbeibg not even B level teams yet they call their elite team AA so they can call their second team A and their 3rd team B. God knows why people buy into those 2nd and 3rd teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I find all this talk about "AA" teams hysterical. Express and 91 are clearly very good in comparison to the other club teams on Long Island. It appears they won the game of musical chairs for this age group But that's not good enough, apparently, for those obsessed with organizational status seeking for their prepubescent kid. We must also be subjected to their opinion on what other teams are A or A minus quality, and who left what club and why. And how do they know this? Because these adults, who are not coaches or directors and who presumably have jobs and lives of their own, are actually engaged in the process of rating 12 year old boys. Which is weird, but also amusing and disturbing at the same time. So your budding future ex-college superstar/entry-level mail room employee plays for a "true" AA team. We understand that you're very, very proud and that this is a very, very big deal. "Express or 91 - there's a big drop off after that!" you say. "He's self-selected with other boys of his caliber, and he gets to play with other "true" AA talent" you also say. Fantastic. But, while your envy-worthy son is playing with other AA talent, the other boys on the teams you ridicule are playing against it. Fighting, coming up short, fighting again, learning. Getting better. Getting better because they're playing better competition. You don't learn much winning 12-4, especially if you're three deep on a line. Maybe the kids on these A or A minus teams are not worthy at this point in their career of making that list you made up in your head, but who said being the best 12 year old was the point of this exercise, anyway? At the end of the day, all these LI club teams play each other. No one is being airlifted out to play on another level with "better teams"- they're all in the same circle. The difference between them is not as great as you'd like to think, when compared to the hundreds of other club teams nationwide. The question is: is your son growing and learning? And there's a bunch of us who think that playing against the "better" talent is better than playing with it. Anyway, mark my words. I give it two years before someone on this board makes the following statement: "Express and 91 are the only true elite AAA
teams. The rest are maybe AA, single A at best."


I find the ranking posts just conversational and light hearted. It doesn’t mean anything, but it seems to irritate some.. People will often share their opinions, as you have, on blogs. All good, imho, I don’t even mind the self promoting or people taking about how great the team is. I only posts that insult a teams ability, I find annoying, but whatever.


Agreed with all of this. You have to take everything in these forums with a grain of salt and filter out some the worst schoolyard bickering. It is a source of entertainment (at least for me who check for new messages regularly.. and don't pretend you don't) and you may even find some of the threads quite engaging and useful, like this one in particular.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is already practicing 3x a week. They are taking the WSYL seriously!


Going on vacation before school starts. There is life outside lacrosse
If Express or any team is already practicing 3x a week then I hope the program provides therapy to the kids and parents for free... As for the WSYL..... why does anyone care? Your going to spend $5k and a week of your time in Denver to play all of the same LI teams? So your kid can be on ESPN2? The WSYL is another "money grab" and wont even be around in a year from now. If you want a warp mini that bad you can buy one at IAmInsecure's for $35....Take your kids to Disney instead...they will get more out of it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Express or any team is already practicing 3x a week then I hope the program provides therapy to the kids and parents for free... As for the WSYL..... why does anyone care? Your going to spend $5k and a week of your time in Denver to play all of the same LI teams? So your kid can be on ESPN2? The WSYL is another "money grab" and wont even be around in a year from now. If you want a warp mini that bad you can buy one at IAmInsecure's for $35....Take your kids to Disney instead...they will get more out of it.


Totally agree. Just a moneymaker. The qualifier tournaments can be worthwhile. But actually going is just throwing away 5k.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Express or any team is already practicing 3x a week then I hope the program provides therapy to the kids and parents for free... As for the WSYL..... why does anyone care? Your going to spend $5k and a week of your time in Denver to play all of the same LI teams? So your kid can be on ESPN2? The WSYL is another "money grab" and wont even be around in a year from now. If you want a warp mini that bad you can buy one at IAmInsecure's for $35....Take your kids to Disney instead...they will get more out of it.


Totally agree. Just a moneymaker. The qualifier tournaments can be worthwhile. But actually going is just throwing away 5k.


Funny how every year somebody says that the WSYL won't be around in another year. You might actually see the NLF championship go away before the WSYL, that tournament is the biggest scam around with the reclassed players and older players just playing down for the tournament. Of course, people will point fingers at the Maryland and Massachusetts teams, but if your team is playing in the event, and supporting it, you are just as culpable.
5k, on top of 4K for the team. Plus another 3k for other tournaments,training,hotels etc. That’s 12k for the year for 12/13 year old lacrosse. Lol. We are all so twisted, myself included. I have 3 kids. They all play lax. with do I get a second mortgage. Crazy man.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Express or any team is already practicing 3x a week then I hope the program provides therapy to the kids and parents for free... As for the WSYL..... why does anyone care? Your going to spend $5k and a week of your time in Denver to play all of the same LI teams? So your kid can be on ESPN2? The WSYL is another "money grab" and wont even be around in a year from now. If you want a warp mini that bad you can buy one at IAmInsecure's for $35....Take your kids to Disney instead...they will get more out of it.



Don't take the click bait. You think CoachC is practicing 3x a week ever? much less August? Stop. He's counting his $$$. Also he's not worried about winning. They will run away with the trophy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If Express or any team is already practicing 3x a week then I hope the program provides therapy to the kids and parents for free... As for the WSYL..... why does anyone care? Your going to spend $5k and a week of your time in Denver to play all of the same LI teams? So your kid can be on ESPN2? The WSYL is another "money grab" and wont even be around in a year from now. If you want a warp mini that bad you can buy one at IAmInsecure's for $35....Take your kids to Disney instead...they will get more out of it.



Don't take the click bait. You think CoachC is practicing 3x a week ever? much less August? Stop. He's counting his $$$. Also he's not worried about winning. They will run away with the trophy.

The only question, will he let them run up the score like the Wolfpack.
Five of the top ten '25 teams will not even send teams to the WSYL. The number 2 and 3 ranked teams aren't even in the same league as Express. Yes, we all know the ranking are a joke but it just shows the gap between Express and the rest of the '25.
This is why the WSYL could be in trouble, club directors will stop wasting their 4th weekend when they know they are going to get beat by 10.
Great response. Laughing my rear off.. And true about winning it all.
The qualifiers are the only positive. The rest of it is ridiculous. A lot of other regions will begin removing their names from consideration as it is a joke. I would rather see clubs enter 2 or 3 additional local tournaments. Playing lacrosse will get the kids/teams better. Flying across the country will not...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The qualifiers are the only positive. The rest of it is ridiculous. A lot of other regions will begin removing their names from consideration as it is a joke. I would rather see clubs enter 2 or 3 additional local tournaments. Playing lacrosse will get the kids/teams better. Flying across the country will not...


I still like the premise, but I do think it needs to be more competitive and it does need the other hot beds participating. Right now it’s just Long Island and the emerging hot beds. Also, they should move the tournament around each year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The qualifiers are the only positive. The rest of it is ridiculous. A lot of other regions will begin removing their names from consideration as it is a joke. I would rather see clubs enter 2 or 3 additional local tournaments. Playing lacrosse will get the kids/teams better. Flying across the country will not...


I still like the premise, but I do think it needs to be more competitive and it does need the other hot beds participating. Right now it’s just Long Island and the emerging hot beds. Also, they should move the tournament around each year.


I think they wanted it to be like baseball where it's always in Williamsport. I wonder also if upheaval in MLL and Warrior leaving as a sponsor will have an effect. Last year the Texas region didn't send anyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The qualifiers are the only positive. The rest of it is ridiculous. A lot of other regions will begin removing their names from consideration as it is a joke. I would rather see clubs enter 2 or 3 additional local tournaments. Playing lacrosse will get the kids/teams better. Flying across the country will not...


I still like the premise, but I do think it needs to be more competitive and it does need the other hot beds participating. Right now it’s just Long Island and the emerging hot beds. Also, they should move the tournament around each year.


I think they wanted it to be like baseball where it's always in Williamsport. I wonder also if upheaval in MLL and Warrior leaving as a sponsor will have an effect. Last year the Texas region didn't send anyone.[/quote

Yes, it be like a house cards with the rest. I would to see it succeed, but other regions must be tired of 5 straight years of a LI champ. And it will likely be another LI team again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather my son score 4 goals against express or 91 than 4 goals with them


Except your son is lucky if he scores at all against either team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
5k, on top of 4K for the team. Plus another 3k for other tournaments,training,hotels etc. That’s 12k for the year for 12/13 year old lacrosse. Lol. We are all so twisted, myself included. I have 3 kids. They all play lax. with do I get a second mortgage. Crazy man.


.....but my little Johnny might get a 3K a year scholarship to Duke!!!
Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.


No surprises. Express got better. Blast is a little worse. Every other team is mostly the same. It will be a boring year for upsets and underdogs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.


No surprises. Express got better. Blast is a little worse. Every other team is mostly the same. It will be a boring year for upsets and underdogs.


How could Express get better? They only play 13 kids, not because the next 20 stink, but because they only play those 13. Will the favorites have playing time cut so new additions get to play?

Has Rebels improved at all? Alot of talk around a team that stunk last year? Why would parents go there? Because communication is good?

How about Igloo? They have been a disappointment too. Typically a better showing from their other grades.

Any changes to rebels?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.


No surprises. Express got better. Blast is a little worse. Every other team is mostly the same. It will be a boring year for upsets and underdogs.


How could Express get better? They only play 13 kids, not because the next 20 stink, but because they only play those 13. Will the favorites have playing time cut so new additions get to play?

Has Rebels improved at all? Alot of talk around a team that stunk last year? Why would parents go there? Because communication is good?

How about Igloo? They have been a disappointment too. Typically a better showing from their other grades.

Any changes to rebels?



Two years ago Geese would have been in that conversation. What happened over there?
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Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.


No surprises. Express got better. Blast is a little worse. Every other team is mostly the same. It will be a boring year for upsets and underdogs.


How could Express get better? They only play 13 kids, not because the next 20 stink, but because they only play those 13. Will the favorites have playing time cut so new additions get to play?

Has Rebels improved at all? Alot of talk around a team that stunk last year? Why would parents go there? Because communication is good?

How about Igloo? They have been a disappointment too. Typically a better showing from their other grades.

Any changes to rebels?



Express got better.
Rebels loaded up with some really good kids. They had some good pieces at each level this past year so I'd expect them to surpass a lot of teams this year. Last year was their 1st season and they werent totally inept. Then again, the teams they were playing probably were so they looked good for a 1st year team. Igloo = PAL....91 unchanged, not backwards. But who knows.... Find out at Fall Tourneys
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Ok boys & Girls, its been extremely quiet on this board for too long, I'm used to reading all the negative comments and attacks on each other for the past few years and am getting worried that everybody has come to there senses lol Lets see if we can keep the thread positive this year instead of cut throat and try to promote a fruitful conversation about the sport the kids play. Does anyone have a fall tournament schedule yet? will there be any surprise teams this year that has added to there rosters that will bring there team to the next level?

Wishful thinking but would be nice.


No surprises. Express got better. Blast is a little worse. Every other team is mostly the same. It will be a boring year for upsets and underdogs.


How could Express get better? They only play 13 kids, not because the next 20 stink, but because they only play those 13. Will the favorites have playing time cut so new additions get to play?

Has Rebels improved at all? Alot of talk around a team that stunk last year? Why would parents go there? Because communication is good?

How about Igloo? They have been a disappointment too. Typically a better showing from their other grades.

Any changes to rebels?



Two years ago Geese would have been in that conversation. What happened over there?


A bunch of Geese players though the grass was greener at 91. After being there, the realized the grass was green because of all the garbage 91 shovels.
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Rebels loaded up with some really good kids. They had some good pieces at each level this past year so I'd expect them to surpass a lot of teams this year. Last year was their 1st season and they werent totally inept. Then again, the teams they were playing probably were so they looked good for a 1st year team. Igloo = PAL....91 unchanged, not backwards. But who knows.... Find out at Fall Tourneys


These all seem like zero sum gains? Rarely do the top players leave, and when they do it’s never to a worse team or do they go sideways. If parents are willing to let a team develop, all would be good. If the coach is great and the club commitment is there and it’s just the team isn’t on the level of Express or 91, why leave? You’ll likely see similar results at tourneys this year with the new team. The exacerbated reactions to losing is unreal.
Dont blame 91 those people were cancers and that is why they can not stay on a team , good luck to whoever got those gems
Now they are Cancers. Aren’t these the same kids that were poached and brought on mid season the prior year. So 2018 they are great and 2019 they are cancers. Yeah that sounds like a quality team.
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Now they are Cancers. Aren’t these the same kids that were poached and brought on mid season the prior year. So 2018 they are great and 2019 they are cancers. Yeah that sounds like a quality team.

Its a funny situation we've gotten our kids involved in. Yet its rarely about the kids.
Have they left 91 now?
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Rebels loaded up with some really good kids. They had some good pieces at each level this past year so I'd expect them to surpass a lot of teams this year. Last year was their 1st season and they werent totally inept. Then again, the teams they were playing probably were so they looked good for a 1st year team. Igloo = PAL....91 unchanged, not backwards. But who knows.... Find out at Fall Tourneys


These all seem like zero sum gains? Rarely do the top players leave, and when they do it’s never to a worse team or do they go sideways. If parents are willing to let a team develop, all would be good. If the coach is great and the club commitment is there and it’s just the team isn’t on the level of Express or 91, why leave? You’ll likely see similar results at tourneys this year with the new team. The exacerbated reactions to losing is unreal.

Stop with the Rebels nonsense. They were not good last year. So they added some cast offs from other programs, big deal. Not sure why you refer to Igloo as PAL. They are one of the better teams but certainly not on the level of Express.
WHO CARES!!! Does anyone really care what 91 or Express does? Or how Bad Igloo is? Or how improved Rebels are? Seriously...calling kids cancers? That's sad. Let your kid play on his team and enjoy it for what it is. None of these kids are all world and a $6k trip to Denver wont make them better people in the long run. Just remember: Kids tend to follow the lead of the adults around them.............Is this what a 12 year old should really be focused on? Think about it.
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WHO CARES!!! Does anyone really care what 91 or Express does? Or how Bad Igloo is? Or how improved Rebels are? Seriously...calling kids cancers? That's sad. Let your kid play on his team and enjoy it for what it is. None of these kids are all world and a $6k trip to Denver wont make them better people in the long run. Just remember: Kids tend to follow the lead of the adults around them.............Is this what a 12 year old should really be focused on? Think about it.


How dare you inject sanity and coherence into this message board!! People might start thinking there are responsible adults looking at this thing and not just trailer trash stunads.
No! nobody really cares about express or 91 other than the parents of those two teams. as for the rest of the teams let them just play the tournaments, improve there skills, and have some fun making memories because before you know it, this whole travel thing will have finished and will only be a distant memory.
Does anybody know how many teams True Blue has this age.
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Does anybody know how many teams True Blue has this age.


Ask loud mouth Joe Cat.
True Who? Does it matter?
91 definitely took a step back, as it lost some of its top talent. Some to Express, some to a new team out of Huntington, and one I think went straight to Yale, but only for a year, because he's starting as a VP at JP Morgan in September 2021 (before he switches mid fiscal year to go to Citibank). Interesting how the kids who jumped from that Legacy program mid 2018 jumped right from 91, which demonstrates that it's not the program that's the problem, but rather the character of the parents who pulled that BS move. But I'm sure 91 will find their leaving to be addition by subtraction. Actually, since those parents have proven so good at poisoning the atmosphere at two programs, maybe we can drop them into N Korea and let them use their unique interpersonal skills to destablize that country before it gets nuclear weapons?
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91 definitely took a step back, as it lost some of its top talent. Some to Express, some to a new team out of Huntington, and one I think went straight to Yale, but only for a year, because he's starting as a VP at JP Morgan in September 2021 (before he switches mid fiscal year to go to Citibank). Interesting how the kids who jumped from that Legacy program mid 2018 jumped right from 91, which demonstrates that it's not the program that's the problem, but rather the character of the parents who pulled that BS move. But I'm sure 91 will find their leaving to be addition by subtraction. Actually, since those parents have proven so good at poisoning the atmosphere at two programs, maybe we can drop them into N Korea and let them use their unique interpersonal skills to destablize that country before it gets nuclear weapons?


I don't agree at all. Most of them are very nice people and the kids are good players. The cancer parent(s) at 91 left two years ago for Geese.
2 ..... the A will be solid for sure!


Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 definitely took a step back, as it lost some of its top talent. Some to Express, some to a new team out of Huntington, and one I think went straight to Yale, but only for a year, because he's starting as a VP at JP Morgan in September 2021 (before he switches mid fiscal year to go to Citibank). Interesting how the kids who jumped from that Legacy program mid 2018 jumped right from 91, which demonstrates that it's not the program that's the problem, but rather the character of the parents who pulled that BS move. But I'm sure 91 will find their leaving to be addition by subtraction. Actually, since those parents have proven so good at poisoning the atmosphere at two programs, maybe we can drop them into N Korea and let them use their unique interpersonal skills to destablize that country before it gets nuclear weapons?


Legacy shot themselves in the foot when they made the dad that played at Adelphi the assistant coach.
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2 ..... the A will be solid for sure!


So now True Blue has a B team. So do the REBELS this year. Then there is The Regulators, which is supposed to be an A team. So those are 3 new teams. Did any teams fold?
Who are the Regulators? Never heard of them.
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91 definitely took a step back, as it lost some of its top talent. Some to Express, some to a new team out of Huntington, and one I think went straight to Yale, but only for a year, because he's starting as a VP at JP Morgan in September 2021 (before he switches mid fiscal year to go to Citibank). Interesting how the kids who jumped from that Legacy program mid 2018 jumped right from 91, which demonstrates that it's not the program that's the problem, but rather the character of the parents who pulled that BS move. But I'm sure 91 will find their leaving to be addition by subtraction. Actually, since those parents have proven so good at poisoning the atmosphere at two programs, maybe we can drop them into N Korea and let them use their unique interpersonal skills to destablize that country before it gets nuclear weapons?


Legacy shot themselves in the foot when they made the dad that played at Adelphi the assistant coach.
Same DB , who keeps Talking about Legacy. Enough , You left the team , and its not working out for you . Now you kjnow who the problem really was.
really,,,,, what's with your animonsity of Legacy? its evident from your comments that you left that team and seem jealous that that the team is probably better without you and your kid. Now it seems 91 doesn't really care about you or your kid either. Seems to be one common denominator, and its not a coach of either organization. You should probably sign up your kid on a local B team and whine about your issues to a local priest.
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Who are the Regulators? Never heard of them.


Emilio Estevez, Lou Diamond Philips, Charlie Sheen and Keifer Sutherland. They were all in Young Guns 1 and Young Guns 2. Regulators! Not to be confused with Charlie Sheen, Patrick Swayze, and C Thomas Howell, who were all in Red Dawn. Wolverines!
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Who are the Regulators? Never heard of them.


Just a group of decent players with a really good coach. Which sounds ideal.
It sounds more than ideal. It sounds fantastic. No club, just a team. No insane prices. A lot less drama. Just a bunch of good kids playing lax together, with a real good coach.
Regulators! Lets Ride!
Any brothas on the Regulators?
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It sounds more than ideal. It sounds fantastic. No club, just a team. No insane prices. A lot less drama. Just a bunch of good kids playing lax together, with a real good coach.


Sounds like you've just described the travel lacrosse unicorn
Regulators = CSH ROAR with a few cast offs from other teams. They will still probably be better than Legacy, Igloo, S-2-S, Not So Tru Blue and I hope they are.
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It sounds more than ideal. It sounds fantastic. No club, just a team. No insane prices. A lot less drama. Just a bunch of good kids playing lax together, with a real good coach.


Sounds like you've just described the travel lacrosse unicorn


Only if they really can compete.
They have not even played a game yet how would you know ? Clown a$$.
What we do know is that Roar beat 91 last year at their own tourney.



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Regulators = CSH ROAR with a few cast offs from other teams. They will still probably be better than Legacy, Igloo, S-2-S, Not So Tru Blue and I hope they are.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It sounds more than ideal. It sounds fantastic. No club, just a team. No insane prices. A lot less drama. Just a bunch of good kids playing lax together, with a real good coach.


Sounds like you've just described the travel lacrosse unicorn


Only if they really can compete.


Roar beat 91 already. It the new additions are good, maybe they can be the new #2 team.
They will be the number 2 team.
Thanks for the update , let me know how the ROAR team will do when the kids need to be recruited and get into showcases ..... GOOD LUCK
#2 is right... As in a Deuce..... They may be competitive but will be no more than middle of the road. 91 will still have their way with all of these teams. Regulators will probably beat the Igloos of the world, the Millon forces, etc But they wont beat 91. And CSH ROAR is done as they poached their kids for this new team. That move likely killed whatever momentum and chemistry that was there.
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Thanks for the update , let me know how the ROAR team will do when the kids need to be recruited and get into showcases ..... GOOD LUCK


Don't need you 91 guy. Our coach will get us recruited. Everyone knows CSH.
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Thanks for the update , let me know how the ROAR team will do when the kids need to be recruited and get into showcases ..... GOOD LUCK


Don't need you 91 guy. Our coach will get us recruited. Everyone knows CSH.


Shouldnt you be in school if you are recruiting age. Live through you kid much?
Do you hear yourselves, recruited. They are 12. Really good players will attend showcases and get noticed. Lol. The 91 sales pitch.
Everybody on a 12 year old lacrosse board regularly is living through their kid. Face it.
THE BOARD IS HEATING UP!!!! 75% of these kids wont even playing in HS thanks to the banter like the above. So 91, rebels, Express, Legacy, Outlaws, Shore to Shore, ROAR....it doesnt matter. How about just enjoying watching your kid play and have fun? If they arent having fun then they will be showcasing for soccer, band, basketball, whatever. Everyone needs to take a step back or get medicated. Good Golly!
Are the Regulators playing in any fall tourneys ?
If they claim they are a travel lacrosse travel I would suspect they wouldnt be at the bowling alley during Fall tourneys.
How is the WSYL teams doing? Start practicing yet?
You mean all of the LI teams that fly to Denver to play an uninspiring Lax tourney and get a "free" WARP mini? ? WSYL is a joke and a $ grab.
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You mean all of the LI teams that fly to Denver to play an uninspiring Lax tourney and get a "free" WARP mini? ? WSYL is a joke and a $ grab.


Says the teams that have no chance of beating express.
I’d rather not beat express and save 5 grand. I’m already paying 4 grand tuition, another 4 grand on training through the year. Plus hotels and other miscellaneous BS, probably 2 grand. Plus I have 3 kids who play. No thanks. I’ll pass on that 5 grand to go watch more lacrosse in Colorado. Oh And try outs are 2 weeks after Colorado. Another fee, then another tuition. Thanks anyway. Lol. I can give a rats butt if my son’s team beats express or not.
Agree totally! lets save 5k on a trip to Colorado and let the kids beat each other up locally, no need to fly halfway across the country to see the same game that can be played locally three or four times a year. As far as ESPN, the only people watching it on tv are family members of the kids playing in the tournament. lets do something differently on the east coast in a different state each year to grow the sport. ESPN isn't just in Denver. I'm sure the directors have a little creativity and can come up with a big end of year tournament that will make it fun for the kids and draw attention to their clubs. It's expensive enough in the current environment without the trip to Denver.
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Agree totally! lets save 5k on a trip to Colorado and let the kids beat each other up locally, no need to fly halfway across the country to see the same game that can be played locally three or four times a year. As far as ESPN, the only people watching it on tv are family members of the kids playing in the tournament. lets do something differently on the east coast in a different state each year to grow the sport. ESPN isn't just in Denver. I'm sure the directors have a little creativity and can come up with a big end of year tournament that will make it fun for the kids and draw attention to their clubs. It's expensive enough in the current environment without the trip to Denver.


I am not going to Denver nor have I been. I heard the tourney is great, but it’s expensive for Li vs Li. Primetime did get to the final game and so did the Crabs in their lone appearance. But it’s all Northeast teams. I get growing is important, but it’s not the little league World Series, so stop trying to be. Move the event around the Country is one thought. I do love that it is u13 and philly, Maryland and Mass are no shows. #playonage
So here is the question: All teams are trying to qualify because they feel it will give their program credibility and the ability to increase their "Tuition" next year If your sons' team does qualify (because who doesn't at this point?) what do you do? Im inclined to take a real vacation that week. Not board a plane to see the same teams I can see in CT, NY or NJ.
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You mean all of the LI teams that fly to Denver to play an uninspiring Lax tourney and get a "free" WARP mini? ? WSYL is a joke and a $ grab.


Says the teams that have no chance of beating express.


OK stop, I agree that express is the best 2025 team, but this has nothing to do with that. You win!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You mean all of the LI teams that fly to Denver to play an uninspiring Lax tourney and get a "free" WARP mini? ? WSYL is a joke and a $ grab.


Says the teams that have no chance of beating express.


OK stop, I agree that express is the best 2025 team, but this has nothing to do with that. You win!

he means no chance of beating the few kids that actually play for Express.
Listen man, it’s a nice novelty. It’s cool, I get it. However most people aren’t huddled around ESPN 2, 6pm on July 4th. I can only speak for myself, I enjoy skiing in Colorado. I don’t want to drop 5k going there for a lax tournament on July 4th weekend. I’m more than happy with the 2 or 3, away tournaments we go to. Delaware,Maryland,PA,Massachusetts,etc. Plus the 5 local tournaments. Plus the Box tournaments. Plus 3 or 4 scrimmages. Plus his town team plays a few tournaments. There comes a point in life, when enough is enough. That’s my opinion anyway.
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So here is the question: All teams are trying to qualify because they feel it will give their program credibility and the ability to increase their "Tuition" next year If your sons' team does qualify (because who doesn't at this point?) what do you do? Im inclined to take a real vacation that week. Not board a plane to see the same teams I can see in CT, NY or NJ.


Most teams go to qualifying tournaments, because there is good competition there. And they would like to qualify. But plenty of teams have no intention of going even if they do qualify.
For myself, I don't think it's worth the money.
But the teams that want to go and gave no issue spending that money. Well I have no problem with that either. I don't understand why anyone has to have an issue with those that choose to go.
Honestly I feel the same about the e Warrior games. I think it's just a moneymaker for those who run it. I wouldn't pay it. But I know plenty who have. And that's their decision. And why should I care if they choose to?
YOur son's team qualifies: Are you going? Y or N?
Answer is Yes, not looking to hurt my son. If my son’s team doesn’t go, question will I be happy. That answer is yes as well.
Any team that qualifies will go. No program is going to turn it down. How do you tell the team you're not going? Everybody who says they won't go on here is from a team that's not trying to qualify.
My son's team went this year and we're not from LI. AMA.

tl;dr.. It's one year. It was worth it for "our team" bec we've been looking forward to it for 2 years and held our own against the best age-based competition.

Other: The boys had a good time being together in a vacation setting (we went to Vail, whitewater rafting, rockies baseball game, Bird Scooters all over downtown Denver, team dinners, hanging out in hotel where everyone stayed in, met players from across the country) and ofcourse lax.. it was world-class, model for how to run tournaments. Summed up in one word.. memories. All of this ofcourse will not matter if you feel it's unaffortable or not worth the price, which is totally understandable.

PS.. if you do go and play one of the nations team (such as Iriqois), treat them with respect and not run up the score if you can help it.. they're there as a symbol .. ambassadors for the game. It's one of the things that we would take back if we could.
We went to WSYL a few years ago, my son’s team loved it. Awesome experience. Fortunately the money was no problem for me. There were others on our team, who it was a problem for. I understand, this is a lot of money on top of tuition and all the other lacrosse stuff. Families have a few kids and they do club sports as well, I totally understand if teams decide not to go. If a team goes, no parent wants to hurt their kid or the team, so it puts a lot of people in an uncomfortable situation. There were team dinners and some parents didn’t want to go because the dinner would be 200 bucks, airline tickets,hotels. Families do payments and budgeting to allow their kids to play club lacrosse. That 5k in July for many people is not readily available.
go if you luv p o t
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go if you luv p o t


this. this too. must account for this in your budget.
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Any team that qualifies will go. No program is going to turn it down. How do you tell the team you're not going? Everybody who says they won't go on here is from a team that's not trying to qualify.


Another know it all. Sorry but you are wrong. There are teams that go to qualifiers with no intention even if they make it of going to Denver in the end. We are not all sold on Denver being worth the money. But if you are have fun.
Simple: "Little Johnny will not attend". Most parents have figured out that Denver is a $ grab. And the ones that havent figured it out, we all know who they are. You see them on them on the sidelines at every tourney sideline coaching, screaming at refs, acting like aholes..... LI LACROSSE WORLD: WAKE UP! YOU ARE GETTING PLAYED. And the $ your spending on travel lax so your rockstar can get a a scholarship will even out. Save a portion of future college tuition but spend double that the previous 10 yrs on cost travel lax. Ask the bursar at the college that your kid attends if a Denver t shirt qualifies them for a tuition discount. Im shakining my head just laughing.
This is like every other travel sport, a lot of money gets spent. Why is it anybody’s business? We get it, it’s a money grab, we are wasting money, etc etc. Thanks for the info, we will take it under advisement. And most of us will pull our kids ASAP from club because it should be free.
Lets get off the WSYL Money Grab
Rank top 10 teams going into fall
Also any Positive comments about clubs
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Lets get off the WSYL Money Grab
Rank top 10 teams going into fall
Also any Positive comments about clubs


Let's not. you're a nut job.
Express
91
True Blue
Force
rebels
Igloo
S2S
Rebels
Legacy
Regulators
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets get off the WSYL Money Grab
Rank top 10 teams going into fall
Also any Positive comments about clubs


1) Express
2) Everybody Else
3) Legacy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express
91
True Blue
Force
rebels
Igloo
S2S
Rebels
Legacy
Regulators



That's funny. True Blue and igloo too high.
They are all the same. Express outclasses everyone. 91 a distant second. The next batch? Igloo? really? You see that Clown show last season? PAL teams were teeing off on them. And they have gotten even worse from what I hear from other parents. I'll go out on limb and say Rebels (unless their coaching staff is completely clueless, which may be the case) and Regulators will be competitive. Tru Blue? Seriously? Other than watching the one parent make a total dope of himself they have nothing to offer.. thats not a knock on the kids but it is just the way it is. Now lets get this board heated up as I have nothing to do at work......
No such thing as a top 10 club lax list. Opinions are like Meanyh0le$ Everyone has one, and they usually stink.
These must all be your first kids in travel ... Good Luck i hope it all works out for your sons in 5 years .... LOL
Express wins most games. Hands down. Just don’t use the term outclass. When 14 out of 32 kids actually play(when it matters), that is the complete opposite of class. There are 18 kids, 18 sets of parents, who actually travel and pay to watch their kids at tournaments, do ground ball drills.
Good point. But shame on the parents that put their kids in that position. And it isnt so much that Express has the 14 best players out there. I have seen 14 better kids on other teams. But they DO KNOW HOW TO COACH those kids which is something most of these other teams are lacking. Rip Exp if you want but they get the most out of those kids while other coaches alienate and actually make their own players/teams worse.. Everyone reading this knows this, And hopefully some of those coaches that claim they arent on this site are reading this also. Stop badmouthing other programs and clean up your own house first. Or resign
Teams signed up for the Qualifier so far :

CT Wolves
Express
2Way
Express North
Predators
91
PrimeTime
Rebels
Eclipse
LI R U S H
True Blue
S2S
Sweetlax
Igloo
Regulators

Who SHOULD qualify?
Who are your sleeper teams?
Who is the biggest “with they have no chance” team?

Excluding the price of a trip to Denver, this should be a great tournament
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Teams signed up for the Qualifier so far :

CT Wolves
Express
2Way
Express North
Predators
91
PrimeTime
Rebels
Eclipse
LI R U S H
True Blue
S2S
Sweetlax
Igloo
Regulators

Who SHOULD qualify?
Who are your sleeper teams?
Who is the biggest “with they have no chance” team?

Excluding the price of a trip to Denver, this should be a great tournament


How many qualify depends on the other regions. Teams have been dropping fast from other regions so who knows.

Maybe Igloo.

True Blue, Rebels, rebels and S2S no chance, Regulators who knows
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Express
91
True Blue
Force
rebels
Igloo
S2S
Rebels
Legacy
Regulators



Hahaha!
Any person that ranks True Blue 3rd is either a True Blue coach or has a really distorted view of what a good lacrosse team looks like
wait until after the first fall tournament to start ranking any team. Kids grow and get bigger and faster every year, you get two or three kids on a team that got taller and faster from the previous year and it can change the dynamics of a team. What was average a year ago could be competitive this year. The teams Kool Aid hasn't even been mixed yet and we want to start with ranking them.
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Express
91
True Blue
Force
rebels
Igloo
S2S
Rebels
Legacy
Regulators



7 of 10 teams listed in Blatant
how are you able to see what teams are signed up?
Saw on League Apps
is it still up there on league apps?
if their checks clear they all have a chance. The qualifiers are good but everything that follows them is sewage. Shame on the clubs for buying this garbage and then reselling it to parents who "want to believe". Just give the Warp minis out at the qualifiers and call it a day. My kid has enough helmets as it is.
WHO CARES? They are all the same minus Exp and 91. If your asking based on what we have seen in the past? I would say Igloo is the biggest joke listed and melted years ago. No clue why Untrue Blue is even listed and Rebels are still new so they offer a false hope to starved parents. Legacy is a ghost of years gone by. The Golden Geese laid a brown egg. S2S sounds like a toilet bowl cleaner and their play suggests the same. CSH ROAR, I mean Regulators.....clock probably struck midnight last season. As for Force, who knows? They practice 1x per month and will probably beat all the above. Any other questions?
The rebels will dominate .... Best coaches around and are very deep
Dominate? I doubt that. Heard they had an influx of talent but also heard the coaches leave a lot to be desired. "Improved" is a better word. Think of it like having a 6 speed car but you cant drive stick. You may as well walk.
rebels !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So amazing how the 91 dads on here post stuff like "CSH roar ,I mean regulators clock probably struck midnight last season " , pathetic . You got beat by CSH roar , a town team . You are a sad , pathetic lost living through your kid and sucking the 91 directors balls . Go choke on the 91 kool aid while making excuses every time you lose a game . Typical 91 lost , the club of dense trash and sour grapes .
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WHO CARES? They are all the same minus Exp and 91. If your asking based on what we have seen in the past? I would say Igloo is the biggest joke listed and melted years ago. No clue why Untrue Blue is even listed and Rebels are still new so they offer a false hope to starved parents. Legacy is a ghost of years gone by. The Golden Geese laid a brown egg. S2S sounds like a toilet bowl cleaner and their play suggests the same. CSH ROAR, I mean Regulators.....clock probably struck midnight last season. As for Force, who knows? They practice 1x per month and will probably beat all the above. Any other questions?


You still didn’t trash every club. There is a few you left off. I guess we should all pull our kids and go play another sport.
And for all the haters shouting about how it’s a money grab.... we get it! The only place it’s a problem is for the kid who doesn’t want to do it. When the parents force their kid to participate (because their kid is good) but their kid doesn’t really want to. Otherwise, it’s all good. Our kid wants to play and win against the “best” and we support them! Just because your kid isn’t good enough yet, don’t beat the money grab drum. We all know it.... just like every youth sport at the top level is a money grab! Can the landscape change by high school and your kid is now in the mix? Absolutely! But chances are, the kids on the teams that qualify for the World Series are ahead of the game... and hopefully enjoying their experience! Looking forward to fall, winter, spring and summer! And my kid kicking your kids butt!
It’s all a money grab, everybody knows that going in. Hockey is worse. It’s this WSYL thing, that really is the icing on the cake. Everybody knows after tryouts, tuition, training,clinics,box lacrosse, hotels, travel expenses. This comes with playing lacrosse. This is what it is. This Colorado mid summer tournament is now a big nut thrown into the mix. Our team is qualifying and it’s exciting, but I’d love them to say, enjoy your 4th of July weekend, we aren’t going. I have a fairly large family and my other kids also play sports. I have a good job, but not the job where I can non stop lax money away on everything. It just stinks. Youth sports growing up was fun. My parents didn’t have any financial stress when me and my brothers played sports. It’s a shame what this has become.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s all a money grab, everybody knows that going in. Hockey is worse. It’s this WSYL thing, that really is the icing on the cake. Everybody knows after tryouts, tuition, training,clinics,box lacrosse, hotels, travel expenses. This comes with playing lacrosse. This is what it is. This Colorado mid summer tournament is now a big nut thrown into the mix. Our team is qualifying and it’s exciting, but I’d love them to say, enjoy your 4th of July weekend, we aren’t going. I have a fairly large family and my other kids also play sports. I have a good job, but not the job where I can non stop lax money away on everything. It just stinks. Youth sports growing up was fun. My parents didn’t have any financial stress when me and my brothers played sports. It’s a shame what this has become.


Nothing wrong with loving the club and your sons current team and choosing not to go. However, you know your son would be crushed. So we are part of the same hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And for all the haters shouting about how it’s a money grab.... we get it! The only place it’s a problem is for the kid who doesn’t want to do it. When the parents force their kid to participate (because their kid is good) but their kid doesn’t really want to. Otherwise, it’s all good. Our kid wants to play and win against the “best” and we support them! Just because your kid isn’t good enough yet, don’t beat the money grab drum. We all know it.... just like every youth sport at the top level is a money grab! Can the landscape change by high school and your kid is now in the mix? Absolutely! But chances are, the kids on the teams that qualify for the World Series are ahead of the game... and hopefully enjoying their experience! Looking forward to fall, winter, spring and summer! And my kid kicking your kids butt!


"But chances are, the kids on the teams that qualify for the World Series are ahead of the game... " LOLOLOL. Each and every one of these travel teams has at least a couple of kids that are just as good as the best kids on the "AAA teams". Please, get over yourself. They are 12 years old; let's see what happens when they get just a little older and discover there's a whole other world out there beyond travel lacrosse. We know the kids will be alright, the real question is: how will you compensate for the deficiencies in your own life now that you can't live through your son?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams signed up for the Qualifier so far :

CT Wolves
Express
2Way
Express North
Predators
91
PrimeTime
Rebels
Eclipse
LI R U S H
True Blue
S2S
Sweetlax
Igloo
Regulators

Who SHOULD qualify?
Who are your sleeper teams?
Who is the biggest “with they have no chance” team?

Excluding the price of a trip to Denver, this should be a great tournament


How many qualify depends on the other regions. Teams have been dropping fast from other regions so who knows.

Maybe Igloo.

True Blue, Rebels, rebels and S2S no chance, Regulators who knows

Maybe Igloo? What makes you say that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And for all the haters shouting about how it’s a money grab.... we get it! The only place it’s a problem is for the kid who doesn’t want to do it. When the parents force their kid to participate (because their kid is good) but their kid doesn’t really want to. Otherwise, it’s all good. Our kid wants to play and win against the “best” and we support them! Just because your kid isn’t good enough yet, don’t beat the money grab drum. We all know it.... just like every youth sport at the top level is a money grab! Can the landscape change by high school and your kid is now in the mix? Absolutely! But chances are, the kids on the teams that qualify for the World Series are ahead of the game... and hopefully enjoying their experience! Looking forward to fall, winter, spring and summer! And my kid kicking your kids butt!


"But chances are, the kids on the teams that qualify for the World Series are ahead of the game... " LOLOLOL. Each and every one of these travel teams has at least a couple of kids that are just as good as the best kids on the "AAA teams". Please, get over yourself. They are 12 years old; let's see what happens when they get just a little older and discover there's a whole other world out there beyond travel lacrosse. We know the kids will be alright, the real question is: how will you compensate for the deficiencies in your own life now that you can't live through your son?

PUBERTY is the great equalizer. We'll see if all the bigger faster stronger kids at pee wee level remain dominant. Most of them will not.
The point is that Tourney is ridiculous. May as well be played on Long Island... Same shizzle, more expensive stink. Wake up people!
I agree. Everyone knows it. Why go half way across the country? Besides, noone beating Express or 91..not from what I have seen. Just let those 2 play at some High School and save the money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree. Everyone knows it. Why go half way across the country? Besides, noone beating Express or 91..not from what I have seen. Just let those 2 play at some High School and save the money.


91 has been beat before. Its Express that probably wont he beat.
Dont sleep on the young 2024's that some of these teams are picking up! It's happening!!
It’s a nice accomplishment for the team, going to WSYL. Winning that would be great. Something that’s not very easy to do. It’s doing it as a team, which makes it special. Picking up young 24s or picking up guest players, for that tournament, makes it not special. Id rather lose doing it the right way, then win dirty.
who cares? If a team is that diluted and wants to do that they they arent worth playing for or against.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a nice accomplishment for the team, going to WSYL. Winning that would be great. Something that’s not very easy to do. It’s doing it as a team, which makes it special. Picking up young 24s or picking up guest players, for that tournament, makes it not special. Id rather lose doing it the right way, then win dirty.


Not winning dirty - it's an age based tourney.
Your missing the point, the dirty part isn’t age. That’s a different type of dirty I agree. The dirty part I’m talking about is guest players, not on the team. Nothing like going to a tournament 9 months into a season, then all of a sudden kids you never seen before are now on your roster. Winning that way is dirty. I’d rather win, lose or draw with our guys. That’s what would make the win special.
Whaa, whaa, whaa, sound like a 91 dad . They boast about how their teams play up a year (up a year in horrible b brackets ) , then when they get beat by the Hawks or any other team they say "those kids were tremendous, they have to be older " and now it's " they play dirty , fly players in " blah blah blah . If your 91 dream teams are so darn special then just get on the field and shut up. The team of sour grapes and dense whiners =team 91
What a dense response to a valid point. The WSYL is in July, it hasn’t happened yet for this age bracket. Follow what is being said. I’ll try and translate in simple terms for you. My son’s team is all set. Roster has been set since Labor Day. I want this roster to stay together for the season. The season ends in July. I want to win or lose with this roster. I don’t want other kids joining the team in April, May or June. Even if those kids are the greatest players on the planet. I don’t want them. I want to win or lose with what we have now. Adding kids at the end taint the win. I’d rather not win, then win tainted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a dense response to a valid point. The WSYL is in July, it hasn’t happened yet for this age bracket. Follow what is being said. I’ll try and translate in simple terms for you. My son’s team is all set. Roster has been set since Labor Day. I want this roster to stay together for the season. The season ends in July. I want to win or lose with this roster. I don’t want other kids joining the team in April, May or June. Even if those kids are the greatest players on the planet. I don’t want them. I want to win or lose with what we have now. Adding kids at the end taint the win. I’d rather not win, then win tainted.
That'swhat 91 WP did last year. They go out and recruit the top talent to win, They would not have won if they did not do that. Express does not need to do that. They will beat any LONG ISLAND team hands down. Don' t waste your money and go . My prediction this year. it will be a LI Team and and a team from somewhere else. .
Did 91 WP add kids after September roster was set. Recruiting kids before September isn’t what was said.
They are always recruiting. Kids join them mid season if the checks clear
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did 91 WP add kids after September roster was set. Recruiting kids before September isn’t what was said.
there are rules to the WSYL. have to play a certain amount of tournaments with the team. so don't know that anwser. The tournament is not worht the money . thats my ponit. .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a dense response to a valid point. The WSYL is in July, it hasn’t happened yet for this age bracket. Follow what is being said. I’ll try and translate in simple terms for you. My son’s team is all set. Roster has been set since Labor Day. I want this roster to stay together for the season. The season ends in July. I want to win or lose with this roster. I don’t want other kids joining the team in April, May or June. Even if those kids are the greatest players on the planet. I don’t want them. I want to win or lose with what we have now. Adding kids at the end taint the win. I’d rather not win, then win tainted.


I agree with you but are you on 91 AA? Because there is no such thing for Mule as the roster is set from July. He takes kids on mid season. So your with the wrong team if you are expecting the roster to stay set.
Hey Genius, who is checking all of this at the WSYL? The WSYL Police? Body by Jake? Please son.... he is too busy counting his money, which was your money at one point. Shaking my head...Silly Rabbits
sour grapes. Ummm I think 91 won it last 2 years
Originally Posted by Anonymous
sour grapes. Ummm I think 91 won it last 2 years
91 not winning this year thats for sure..
Won what? The endorsement of people that have voids in their empty lives? The real winners are the teams that wake up and don't even go. 91 can travel across the country and get sent home with a t shirt and some sour grapes as a consolation prize. The rest of the LI teams can play at least 4 tournaments right here on Long Island and buy their own warp minis. That sounds like more of a "win" to me.
I love the taint. I get right in there and go to town.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a dense response to a valid point. The WSYL is in July, it hasn’t happened yet for this age bracket. Follow what is being said. I’ll try and translate in simple terms for you. My son’s team is all set. Roster has been set since Labor Day. I want this roster to stay together for the season. The season ends in July. I want to win or lose with this roster. I don’t want other kids joining the team in April, May or June. Even if those kids are the greatest players on the planet. I don’t want them. I want to win or lose with what we have now. Adding kids at the end taint the win. I’d rather not win, then win tainted.


I agree with you but are you on 91 AA? Because there is no such thing for Mule as the roster is set from July. He takes kids on mid season. So your with the wrong team if you are expecting the roster to stay set.


To prove that point - he kept the roster small so he has room to add.
So what? Who cares if they bring in 50 kids? Or if they win a T shirt in Denver? Seriously, is that going to change the direction of anything? Lets focus on whats really crazy: The NUTSO parents believing that any of this makes a difference. Denver, Long Island, China or Pluto...... BIG DEAL!!!!! Your kids will never remember it and your memories will be of yourself screaming at an 11 year old because he dropped a pass. There are a select few out there that do get it and for those people, I hope it is all a great experience. For the "I live vicariously through my kid" personalities? WAKE UP
This is boring Lets talk about something that will ignite the board: Lets talk about the most dis-improved teams out there and why they continue to head south. Anyone have any comments on that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What a dense response to a valid point. The WSYL is in July, it hasn’t happened yet for this age bracket. Follow what is being said. I’ll try and translate in simple terms for you. My son’s team is all set. Roster has been set since Labor Day. I want this roster to stay together for the season. The season ends in July. I want to win or lose with this roster. I don’t want other kids joining the team in April, May or June. Even if those kids are the greatest players on the planet. I don’t want them. I want to win or lose with what we have now. Adding kids at the end taint the win. I’d rather not win, then win tainted.


I agree with you but are you on 91 AA? Because there is no such thing for Mule as the roster is set from July. He takes kids on mid season. So your with the wrong team if you are expecting the roster to stay set.


To prove that point - he kept the roster small so he has room to add.


Express kept small too - only 35 to start off the year
Move on. Old news about rosters, money grabs, WSYL, etc. You are not convincing people to change their view that have a different opinion about such topics. Everyone learns through experience, let them figure it. If you want bash a club, okay, why bother if it’s anonymous, nobody cares. Talk about what’s good about the WSYL, instead of it costs a lot and it’s LI vs LI. How about the fact a youth game is on National TV. How awesome for the sport. And you want to be negative, because people can’t help it, shame on Maryland, NE, DC, and Philly for not being a part of the growth of the game. Don’t respond they are all holdbacks, they can form an age appropriate team. Those regions don’t bother and hurt the growth. Crabs did show up to the first one and best soundly by Crush. But they deserved it, because the Crabs beat Crush hat summer with a different roster. Strong Island, on age, on grade!
Thanks S for that plug.... PATHETIC....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what? Who cares if they bring in 50 kids? Or if they win a T shirt in Denver? Seriously, is that going to change the direction of anything? Lets focus on whats really crazy: The NUTSO parents believing that any of this makes a difference. Denver, Long Island, China or Pluto...... BIG DEAL!!!!! Your kids will never remember it and your memories will be of yourself screaming at an 11 year old because he dropped a pass. There are a select few out there that do get it and for those people, I hope it is all a great experience. For the "I live vicariously through my kid" personalities? WAKE UP
you are only allowed to bring 25 kids to the WSYL and that includes 2 goalies ..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Move on. Old news about rosters, money grabs, WSYL, etc. You are not convincing people to change their view that have a different opinion about such topics. Everyone learns through experience, let them figure it. If you want bash a club, okay, why bother if it’s anonymous, nobody cares. Talk about what’s good about the WSYL, instead of it costs a lot and it’s LI vs LI. How about the fact a youth game is on National TV. How awesome for the sport. And you want to be negative, because people can’t help it, shame on Maryland, NE, DC, and Philly for not being a part of the growth of the game. Don’t respond they are all holdbacks, they can form an age appropriate team. Those regions don’t bother and hurt the growth. Crabs did show up to the first one and best soundly by Crush. But they deserved it, because the Crabs beat Crush hat summer with a different roster. Strong Island, on age, on grade!


Long Island is joke an everyone knows it. That's why you have to defend it so hard
Dont drown in the koolaide. The positive will be when they cxl it . The concept is right but the organizers have no clue how to manage it. Just like all of these club teams. Clueless. They prey on unsuspecting people/parents. Some of them figure it out....some of them do not... Now, onward to better topics: Which teams regressed this year? Who overpaid and will get even less in return? Who really cares?
Cynicville
Bunch of miserable people on this board. Maybe just maybe the $4k means nothing to some families and their kids really enjoy playing on the club teams. Maybe some kids have a great time on the trip to Denver with their teammates--its for them not you bozos on this thread who think their kid is getting a full ride somewhere. If you can't afford it don't pay or play. You won't be missed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks S. for that plug.... PATHETIC....


Man you nailed it.
Honest not miserable. Move the tourney to LI, where all the teams reside. Then Warrior could give everyone an extra t shirt too and maybe even give one to the parents that have invested their lives into 7th grade lax. Hey, if thats how people want to spend their $4k god bless em. But just keep in mind their kids prolly wont even start for their school teams. Are there any teams out there on LI that could actually beat that express team? Seriously...your leading your kids to failure. LONG LIVE THE CHANSTER MACHINE!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Honest not miserable. Move the tourney to LI, where all the teams reside. Then Warrior could give everyone an extra t shirt too and maybe even give one to the parents that have invested their lives into 7th grade lax. Hey, if thats how people want to spend their $4k god bless em. But just keep in mind their kids prolly wont even start for their school teams. Are there any teams out there on LI that could actually beat that express team? Seriously...your leading your kids to failure. LONG LIVE THE CHANSTER MACHINE!!!

Express lays an egg every now and again but they are the best team at 2025. Now we can all go on about they have 30 plus kids where only half play but thats been beaten to death. Its a parents choice. Let them play and have fun.
looks like 91 MD jump in the WSYL, thats a first for that program
Lots of teams looking to go to WSYL at Fall Blatant , tourney machine has these teams listed.

Team 91
CSH Roar
Force Triolo
Igloo Northface
LI Rush Gold Rush
LIE CoachC
Mad Dog Black
Rebels LC
True Blue
Your contradicting yourself. You are saying let them play and gave fun. The team plays less than half the kids. That means more than half the kids are not having fun.
The Fall Blatant tournament is not a regional qualifier for the WSYL
No one said it is a qualifier, just that they are playing at Fall Jam.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one said it is a qualifier, just that they are playing at Fall Jam.

You said that they are looking to go to the WSYL? How do you know that?
Every team signed up for fall jam is also signed up for qualifier.
Lets make it a even 10.
Turtles S2S
Come on Down
He didn’t keep the roster small. He had kids leave that they didn’t expect to leave. Kids that were invited to join the team rejected the invite. And he didn’t take an additional goalie because he thinks the WP goalie that is still age eligible is going to play at the WSYL for him but he isn’t going to play. In short, he never intended to have such a small roster it was forced on him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He didn’t keep the roster small. He had kids leave that they didn’t expect to leave. Kids that were invited to join the team rejected the invite. And he didn’t take an additional goalie because he thinks the WP goalie that is still age eligible is going to play at the WSYL for him but he isn’t going to play. In short, he never intended to have such a small roster it was forced on him.


Are we talking about 91?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw on League Apps


How?
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


Don’t know if that’s the case. But this tourney is about playing in that final game and winning. Why is that so hard to comprehend. If ESPN ever dropped the coverage, I suspect that the participants would drop as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


WP goalie cant play in wsyl with 2025. He would have to do a certain number of tourneys with 2025 to be allowed to do that. And he isn't going to bail on WP tourneys to do that.
It’s very easy to comprehend. The not comprehending is coming from you. A kid or kids playing on the team, the last week of the season, THAT ARE NOT ON THE TEAM is so bad. If you can’t comprehend something as easy as this there is nothing else to say.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your contradicting yourself. You are saying let them play and gave fun. The team plays less than half the kids. That means more than half the kids are not having fun.

That part is the parents choice.
Did the Geese change their name to Titans?
It is the parents choice. No doubt. Just don’t say let them play and have fun. That’s not an accurate statement when talking about that team. There isn’t much fun on that team is the point. If you say the 15 kids who play are really good players. I’d say very accurate. If you those 15 kids are having fun, that’s probably accurate as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s very easy to comprehend. The not comprehending is coming from you. A kid or kids playing on the team, the last week of the season, THAT ARE NOT ON THE TEAM is so bad. If you can’t comprehend something as easy as this there is nothing else to say.


Dude you need some therapy. Calm down. We are having a discussion.
91 is a mess! They need to get there act together, they lost some key players and didn't fill the team with anyone better best of luck.
yes, legacy changed their name to the Titans. I heard the same with 91, team is a mess
Fall Jam on Tourney Machine
This board will be fun after r the Blatant tournament. All these teams are going to be middle of the road. People need to get a grip and stop being so heavily invested in kiddie lax. Every club has issues.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a mess! They need to get there act together, they lost some key players and didn't fill the team with anyone better best of luck.


Thanks for your assessment! The kids appreciate your good wishes. I heard them discussing it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is the parents choice. No doubt. Just don’t say let them play and have fun. That’s not an accurate statement when talking about that team. There isn’t much fun on that team is the point. If you say the 15 kids who play are really good players. I’d say very accurate. If you those 15 kids are having fun, that’s probably accurate as well.

How do you know if those kids are having fun or not?
Half the kids on these teams arent having fun. Their Dad's are screaming instruction at them constantly, they spend 2-3 days a week practicing and half of them dont even want to be out there to begin with but are out there anyway due to their insane parents. It is so evident which kids those are.
The question is how do you know if those kids are having fun or not. The topic was Express. On that team and it’s no secret, more than half the kids don’t play in games, unless score is out of reach. That means 15 to 20 kids are standing there watching the game. Instead of enjoying the sport or maybe enjoying a weekend elsewhere, they are dressed in full gear watching the same kids play. That means 15 to 20 sets of parents traveled to this on their weekends off from work. That means many times hotel fees, travel expenses, lining up things for their other children etc. So if you have one of those kids who enjoy this, I guess I’m wrong. If you are one of those parents who can actually sit through this and watch your kid just stand there. I’m wrong again. So I guess I don’t know. To me it was a common sense assumption.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Half the kids on these teams arent having fun. Their Dad's are screaming instruction at them constantly, they spend 2-3 days a week practicing and half of them dont even want to be out there to begin with but are out there anyway due to their insane parents. It is so evident which kids those are.



I’ll disagree in one part. I believe most kids playing want to play the game. The rest is what it is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


It is 100% true. True that they thought they'd convince the goalie. True that the parents flat out said no. A smart choice.
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


It is 100% true. True that they thought they'd convince the goalie. True that the parents flat out said no. A smart choice.
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What are you guys talking about ? The team has 1 goalie. Any team entering the world series has to have 2 goalies on the roster. Please explain to me why you wouldn't ask the best possible goalie for the tournament?
Who would YOU like 91 to use? Why don't all you geniuses put together the entire roster while you are at it.
Sometimes reading these posts makes me realize that a lot of lax folks on here road the Short Bus....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


It is 100% true. True that they thought they'd convince the goalie. True that the parents flat out said no. A smart choice.
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What are you guys talking about ? The team has 1 goalie. Any team entering the world series has to have 2 goalies on the roster. Please explain to me why you wouldn't ask the best possible goalie for the tournament?
Who would YOU like 91 to use? Why don't all you geniuses put together the entire roster while you are at it.
Sometimes reading these posts makes me realize that a lot of lax folks on here road the Short Bus....


Rode...
I guess the 9 goalies at tryouts, weren’t qualified. Lol. You sound like a politician trying to spin this. They take the 1 goalie and leave that 2nd spot open for that last July tournament. Oh and it just so happens the WP goalies birthday fits for age eligibility. It’s Bush league and you know it. No further comment is needed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let me get this straight. The WP goalie, is going to play on the 2025 team for a tournament. What about the 2025 goalie who is currently on the team, that goes to practice, that is there for the entire season. What about that kid. The WP goalie already won last year. Do you see what a joke this has become. Let’s screw the kid we have all year and play a goalie from another team and try to win. Who on earth does stuff like this. This can’t be true.


It is 100% true. True that they thought they'd convince the goalie. True that the parents flat out said no. A smart choice.
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What are you guys talking about ? The team has 1 goalie. Any team entering the world series has to have 2 goalies on the roster. Please explain to me why you wouldn't ask the best possible goalie for the tournament?
Who would YOU like 91 to use? Why don't all you geniuses put together the entire roster while you are at it.
Sometimes reading these posts makes me realize that a lot of lax folks on here road the Short Bus....


You would have brought on another goalie for your team during tryouts. 91 would not have a problem finding a second goalie for their team for the season. Bringing a goalie who is actually not part of t hff e 2025 team, and is on the 2024 team is complete BS. Let's not pretend here.
WHO CARES! Have a PLL goalie play for them. There is wining and then there is wining the right way. A win the wrong way is as good as a loss and everyone knows it when their head hits the pillow. If that T shirt means that much to them then God bless 'em because they have serious deficiencies in their miserable lives.
So let me get this right..... Parents who sign up for A teams don't play to win???? with is wrong with you people. And as far as the roster is concerned why do you care so much about the 2nd goalie for 91. Focus on your Kid and keep moving. World Series could be the only actual tournament that has strict rules to guarantee an even playing field. Why wouldn't you play to win???

Winning the right way??? I understand your position but this is the World Series. ACTUAL RULES on AGE and location of residence.
No other tournament can give you that. So yes, if you can win at World Series then you can actually sleep just fine.
They play to win with their team. Yes. 100 percent.
Age requirements, check
Residence requirements, check
Playing with the kids on your actual team, oops
Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!
Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!

See- This is what Im talking about. You shouldn't be involved with competitive youth lacrosse because It's very clear that you don't get it. $7k is a drop in the bucket and if you can't afford it no one is forcing you to go.

Why even take score if you don't care who wins. The "Everyone gets a trophy" vibe is hurting my eyes. My advice to you is to move on because some parents actually care about having their children experience the highest level of youth lacrosse competition and you clearly don't.

And complaining about who is on "The Team" and who isn't is none sense. We all know CoachC brings a different squad every week. World series makes sure that you play a certain number of tournaments with the same roster in order to be eligible.
I never read anywhere, everybody gets a trophy. Where did that come from. It seems the interpretation is, your team is your team. That’s it. It’s that simple. Case closed.
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Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!

See- This is what Im talking about. You shouldn't be involved with competitive youth lacrosse because It's very clear that you don't get it. $7k is a drop in the bucket and if you can't afford it no one is forcing you to go.

Why even take score if you don't care who wins. The "Everyone gets a trophy" vibe is hurting my eyes. My advice to you is to move on because some parents actually care about having their children experience the highest level of youth lacrosse competition and you clearly don't.

And complaining about who is on "The Team" and who isn't is none sense. We all know CoachC brings a different squad every week. World series makes sure that you play a certain number of tournaments with the same roster in order to be eligible.


With that mentality then why include anyone on your team. If 7k is a drop in the bucket you can certainly pay some money to hire the best kids to play in the WSYL under the 91 name. (And if you dont know yet, your kids are not the best kids.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!

See- This is what Im talking about. You shouldn't be involved with competitive youth lacrosse because It's very clear that you don't get it. $7k is a drop in the bucket and if you can't afford it no one is forcing you to go.

Why even take score if you don't care who wins. The "Everyone gets a trophy" vibe is hurting my eyes. My advice to you is to move on because some parents actually care about having their children experience the highest level of youth lacrosse competition and you clearly don't.

And complaining about who is on "The Team" and who isn't is none sense. We all know CoachC brings a different squad every week. World series makes sure that you play a certain number of tournaments with the same roster in order to be eligible.


With that mentality then why include anyone on your team. If 7k is a drop in the bucket you can certainly pay some money to hire the best kids to play in the WSYL under the 91 name. (And if you dont know yet, your kids are not the best kids.)


Another original post... somebody who advises others how to spend money and criticizes because they think it’s a waste. We got it, thanks. And thanks for the advice to focus on school and get good grades. I would never have thought that is important.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They play to win with their team. Yes. 100 percent.
Age requirements, check
Residence requirements, check
Playing with the kids on your actual team, oops


Yeah, detest to break it to you but 91 doesn’t have the residency requirement covered either as they have a kid from FL on the roster. So we’ll see how strict the WSYL is with requirements.
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!

See- This is what Im talking about. You shouldn't be involved with competitive youth lacrosse because It's very clear that you don't get it. $7k is a drop in the bucket and if you can't afford it no one is forcing you to go.

Why even take score if you don't care who wins. The "Everyone gets a trophy" vibe is hurting my eyes. My advice to you is to move on because some parents actually care about having their children experience the highest level of youth lacrosse competition and you clearly don't.

And complaining about who is on "The Team" and who isn't is none sense. We all know CoachC brings a different squad every week. World series makes sure that you play a certain number of tournaments with the same roster in order to be eligible.


With that mentality then why include anyone on your team. If 7k is a drop in the bucket you can certainly pay some money to hire the best kids to play in the WSYL under the 91 name. (And if you dont know yet, your kids are not the best kids.)


Another original post... somebody who advises others how to spend money and criticizes because they think it’s a waste. We got it, thanks. And thanks for the advice to focus on school and get good grades. I would never have thought that is important.


Dude you were the one who said 7k was a drop in the bucket for you, and winning was what was important to you. I'm just giving you a better strategy towards your goal. Use all great players dude. Everyone has a price. You can defenitely use your money to get much better kids than you have on 91 to play at the wsyl for you. And you will be sure to win then. That's your goal right??? That's what its about???
Or take your 7K and buy 100 boxes of tee shirts. Heck, buy some mini warps too. You will be a hero to LAX folks everywhere. You can hand out t shirts 7 days a week. And then come scrub my toilet little man. Bring an extra box of your t shirts to use as rags. DATS ABUSE BOI! Please dont reply as you apparently dont have the wit or mental fortitude to compete with this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He didn’t keep the roster small. He had kids leave that they didn’t expect to leave. Kids that were invited to join the team rejected the invite. And he didn’t take an additional goalie because he thinks the WP goalie that is still age eligible is going to play at the WSYL for him but he isn’t going to play. In short, he never intended to have such a small roster it was forced on him.


Forced on him? He thinks so highly of himself he had no idea people would leave. He had no idea people would turn down invites.

For 2 years he figured he could do the bare minimum and tryouts would fix everything.
Bottom Line, these lax kids on the good teams are cool, have a swagger and they will get all the chicks and collect pelts as they move into 8th grade. Isn't that what it is all about? Putting your son in the best position to score! Life gets hard after these years. Take advantage of what is out there and blow it out!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Win the World Series, dont win it. Either way your still schleping thru your day and nothing will change regardless of the outcome in Denver. Hopefully these kids are all excelling in school as none of them will be playing professional lacrosse. Hopefully the moths dont eat the free tee shirt that cost you $7k alone in travel expenses and your son can bring it on his job interviews when he is older. "Look, I wont the WSYL the year before they cxl'd it" Employers response: "Get out" SLEEP ON THAT BE-OTCES!!!

See- This is what Im talking about. You shouldn't be involved with competitive youth lacrosse because It's very clear that you don't get it. $7k is a drop in the bucket and if you can't afford it no one is forcing you to go.

Why even take score if you don't care who wins. The "Everyone gets a trophy" vibe is hurting my eyes. My advice to you is to move on because some parents actually care about having their children experience the highest level of youth lacrosse competition and you clearly don't.

And complaining about who is on "The Team" and who isn't is none sense. We all know CoachC brings a different squad every week. World series makes sure that you play a certain number of tournaments with the same roster in order to be eligible.


With that mentality then why include anyone on your team. If 7k is a drop in the bucket you can certainly pay some money to hire the best kids to play in the WSYL under the 91 name. (And if you dont know yet, your kids are not the best kids.)


Another original post... somebody who advises others how to spend money and criticizes because they think it’s a waste. We got it, thanks. And thanks for the advice to focus on school and get good grades. I would never have thought that is important.


Dude you were the one who said 7k was a drop in the bucket for you, and winning was what was important to you. I'm just giving you a better strategy towards your goal. Use all great players dude. Everyone has a price. You can defenitely use your money to get much better kids than you have on 91 to play at the wsyl for you. And you will be sure to win then. That's your goal right??? That's what its about???


No I didn’t dude... 7k is not a drop in the bucket for me and my son is not going to Denver. However, I am not preaching that people are wasting their money and the WSYL is a money grab. It’s a great event from where I sit and everyone (including all the negative people) will be watching the game on ESPN. Some folks say it’s pricey to travel to play LI V LI, yeah, we all agree but let tourney market it and get other teams involved. The Illinois team is solid, their is a Colorado club that now an and up and comer, Sweetlax upstate is in (my guess is they will recruit and build that team on age). The positives is the ratings of the game are huge and it’s growing the game.
I hear nothing but bad things about it. it COULD be a great event but unfortunately , like all kiddie lax, it has been diluted. Anyone thats watching a 12 year old lacrosse game between 2 LI teams on ESPN on 4th of July has to reevaluate their failures and what led them to that point. I like the concept but the execution leaves a lot to be desired.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?


Not sure where the older 8th grade boy was going to be playing but the 8th grade kiddie is surely a middie.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?


Not sure where the older 8th grade boy was going to be playing but the 8th grade kiddie is surely a middie.


I think he's still there
Why did 91 pull out of blatant already?


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?


Not sure where the older 8th grade boy was going to be playing but the 8th grade kiddie is surely a middie.


I think he's still there


Tried out for 91.
Was told - even for us you’re too old!
Will LIE take an 8 grader back and continue to cheat?
Listen you suckas, Chuka gotta eat!
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


I was surprised to see they entered Blatant. Dynamic, 91's parent company, only allows them to do mylacrosse.com and NFL tournaments so they can maximize the revenue on their own tournaments.
Someone probably messed up entering them in Blatant so they pulled out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?


Not sure where the older 8th grade boy was going to be playing but the 8th grade kiddie is surely a middie.


I think he's still there


Tried out for 91.
Was told - even for us you’re too old!
Will LIE take an 8 grader back and continue to cheat?
Listen you suckas, Chuka gotta eat!


Please spare me. If this was a year later 91 would grab him. They probably only want 8th graders who are wsyl eligible this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


I was surprised to see they entered Blatant. Dynamic, 91's parent company, only allows them to do mylacrosse.com and NFL tournaments so they can maximize the revenue on their own tournaments.
Someone probably messed up entering them in Blatant so they pulled out.

That makes no sense they’ve played in blatant tournaments before there are other 91 age teams playing so why no 2025 team? Did they implode?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


I was surprised to see they entered Blatant. Dynamic, 91's parent company, only allows them to do mylacrosse.com and NFL tournaments so they can maximize the revenue on their own tournaments.
Someone probably messed up entering them in Blatant so they pulled out.

That makes no sense they’ve played in blatant tournaments before there are other 91 age teams playing so why no 2025 team? Did they implode?


Yes, there is no team left, they all quit because the coaches were yelling quite loudly and the police had to be called.
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how LIE is looking now that their 8th grader who was not even WSYL eligible is gone? Should US Club Lax be considering taking a look at their 2025 rankings? Will CoachC admit he cheated and give back the trophy?


Where did the 8th grader go? What position did he play?


Not sure where the older 8th grade boy was going to be playing but the 8th grade kiddie is surely a middie.


I think he's still there


Tried out for 91.
Was told - even for us you’re too old!
Will LIE take an 8 grader back and continue to cheat?
Listen you suckas, Chuka gotta eat!



Please show this to 2026 Express parents who whine that non NY teams are all holdbacks.

Thanks
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!
Any scrimmages scheduled for 2025 teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


I was surprised to see they entered Blatant. Dynamic, 91's parent company, only allows them to do mylacrosse.com and NFL tournaments so they can maximize the revenue on their own tournaments.
Someone probably messed up entering them in Blatant so they pulled out.

That makes no sense they’ve played in blatant tournaments before there are other 91 age teams playing so why no 2025 team? Did they implode?



Very simple, the 91 2025 A team list to the CSH roar team last season. CSH is playing the blatant tournament, so to avoid embarrassing themselves they stayed out of it. They are a joke . As everyone knows 91 will only enter tournaments they either own "mylacrose tournament" or they enter tournaments they know they can win .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?
91 did not Implode. This is just business. They are a very good team. Probably just do not want to start Fall losing. Blatant bracket is good. CoachC top team, but rest can play. Lets the Games begin
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


I was surprised to see they entered Blatant. Dynamic, 91's parent company, only allows them to do mylacrosse.com and NFL tournaments so they can maximize the revenue on their own tournaments.
Someone probably messed up entering them in Blatant so they pulled out.

That makes no sense they’ve played in blatant tournaments before there are other 91 age teams playing so why no 2025 team? Did they implode?



Very simple, the 91 2025 A team list to the CSH roar team last season. CSH is playing the blatant tournament, so to avoid embarrassing themselves they stayed out of it. They are a joke . As everyone knows 91 will only enter tournaments they either own "mylacrose tournament" or they enter tournaments they know they can win .


To be fair they are playing in a Deleware tournament on 11/9 which will have really tough competition. So not sure why they pulled from Blatant.
They are supposed to do 2 tourneys in the fall. But no replacement showing on their website yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???
they are also playing in the fall classic on 11/16, legacy will be there too
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


I thought we were talking about an 8th grader that came from Express. Are people confusing 2 different players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


Geese are desperate for players they are not cutting anyone.
"Very simple, the 91 2025 A team list to the CSH roar team last season. CSH is playing the blatant tournament, so to avoid embarrassing themselves they stayed out of it. They are a joke . As everyone knows 91 will only enter tournaments they either own "mylacrose tournament" or they enter tournaments they know they can win ."

You don't think they'd relish the opportunity to play that team again and even the score??
Maybe they are playing a different tourney?
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


Geese are desperate for players they are not cutting anyone.

Theres the guy who left the team to go over to 91 and found out that they were the problem.
renegades and Rebels played a very competitive scrimmage yesterday both teams looked very good.
Who the heck are the renegades? And how would you know they looked good? You go to scrimmages and evaluate them? Go back to sleep.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they are playing a different tourney?


Maybe the 91 coaches are playing with themselves? It would be more satisfying.
What teams are playing at the Columbus Day invitational at East Islip next Monday
Thank you for the update on Renegades vs. Rebels. Its a forum for discussion. Assume you are a parent of a player on one of the teams. Appreciated. Two competitive teams. Renegades is basically Roar with added outside CSH talent. I suspect stronger than Roar, but will never know given it will be impossible for the two to play.
Never heard of it. PAL teams maybe?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


Geese are desperate for players they are not cutting anyone.

Theres the guy who left the team to go over to 91 and found out that they were the problem.

Left TAZ and know on 91, hope he is happy with his new team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


Geese are desperate for players they are not cutting anyone.

Theres the guy who left the team to go over to 91 and found out that they were the problem.


Right away the stunad picks on geese meanwhile he played for Taz just another example that you need to move on from your obsession about that team. By the way that team is NOT desperate for players. I've heard from a friend they are just fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for the update on Renegades vs. Rebels. Its a forum for discussion. Assume you are a parent of a player on one of the teams. Appreciated. Two competitive teams. Renegades is basically Roar with added outside CSH talent. I suspect stronger than Roar, but will never know given it will be impossible for the two to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for the update on Renegades vs. Rebels. Its a forum for discussion. Assume you are a parent of a player on one of the teams. Appreciated. Two competitive teams. Renegades is basically Roar with added outside CSH talent. I suspect stronger than Roar, but will never know given it will be impossible for the two to play.


This is inaccurate. Roar plus other players is the Regulators not the Renegades and Regulators have nott yet scrimmaged anyone.
The Rebels ...please , it’s cute of them trying to qualify for the WSL. Let me know when they play 91, express, Legacy
Rebels scrimmaged RUpoop Sunday to a one goal game. They are not beating CoachC but can compete with everyone else.
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Rebels scrimmaged RUpoop Sunday to a one goal game. They are not beating CoachC but can compete with everyone else.


They are not beating anyone. R$sh is a weak team as well. Neither are even close to the better teams behind CoachC and 91. Stop trying to build a reputation on this blog for yourself that you I. No way can live up to.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?

Cut from the GEESE and now playing Down???


Geese are desperate for players they are not cutting anyone.

Theres the guy who left the team to go over to 91 and found out that they were the problem.

Left TAZ and know on 91, hope he is happy with his new team!


Cut. Now playing down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He went to 91 2025, he was from Legacy!


Cut from Legacy. But hey, if you can't make it on age why not play down?


Theres the guy who left the team to go over to 91 and found out that they were the problem.

Left TAZ and know on 91, hope he is happy with his new team![/quote]

Cut. Now playing down.
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WSYL Eligible?
More importantly, how are the teams looking that are set to play at Blatant tourney? Heard alot of them are not that good but false hope always exists at this time of year...
when is the schedule going to be released?
If your talking about the R$sh team, write it exactly the way I did. If you write it any other way it will be changed to say in error things like rebels, renegades, Rupp, ect....
There is some sort of glitch that back of the cage has not corrected in over a year. And everyone keeps getting confused because of it.
Just write R$sh
I think it changed it from R. U. $. H to renegades
RUSH come on who cares they will not get into any tournaments when it counts , people are wasting there money and time with this program.Can anyone tell me if kids get recruited from Rush Rebels True Blue Jesters Outlaws Momma Boys , let me tell you ZERO because they do not go to the tourneys of Express, 91 , legacy , crabs, laxachusettes,tomahawks,lb3 .... keep wasting your money and those teams
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I think it changed it from R. U. $. H to renegades

It did.
Just write R$sh. No periods.
Rebels may surprise people. they are loaded with athletes. Tru Blu got some Hitmen kids but they arent organzied and may be the punching bag of that age bracket. I heard Rupoop is pretty good but havent seen them play. Igloo is in a death spiral. we pounded them last year and apparently they are even worse this year, Havent heard anything about Force. 91...say what you want but they didnt have much turnover so they will still be the 2nd best team. exprees still the class of the division.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Rebels ...please , it’s cute of them trying to qualify for the WSL. Let me know when they play 91, express, Legacy

That's cute. Putting Legacy with Express and 91. I think even Igloo beat Legacy last season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


In my opinion I understand why 91 might prefer to not play Express at this point.. If they play them tight, like they have, all good and top player departure is not a risk. However, play them and get blown out, some parents can get edgy and decide that if I am paying for Denver, maybe I’ll explore going with the best team. And some won’t. So only downside to playing Express for them.
It’s a new season. Why don’t you guys get a life and see how it plays out. Everything is different. Relax. Things change from year to year.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Rebels ...please , it’s cute of them trying to qualify for the WSL. Let me know when they play 91, express, Legacy

That's cute. Putting Legacy with Express and 91. I think even Igloo beat Legacy last season.


But Rebels did not. So that tells you the ridiculousness of people trying to act like that team is in the mix at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will probably enter the halloween havoc and face no competition


In my opinion I understand why 91 might prefer to not play Express at this point.. If they play them tight, like they have, all good and top player departure is not a risk. However, play them and get blown out, some parents can get edgy and decide that if I am paying for Denver, maybe I’ll explore going with the best team. And some won’t. So only downside to playing Express for them.


I dont think they are avoiding Express. They will see them in Deleware on 11/9
Columbus Day Rebels - Legacy Game # 1

Whats The spread?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Columbus Day Rebels - Legacy Game # 1

Whats The spread?


Legacy wins by 2
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Columbus Day Rebels - Legacy Game # 1

Whats The spread?


Legacy wins by 2


There is no spread because Rebels will not be even close in the standings. Prediction for Colubus Day will be the following for final standings.

CoachC
S2S Hawks
R$sh
Legacy
Rebels
S2S Barracudas
Leg was bad last year. I think Igloo beat them 2x last season and Igloo had to play out of town tournaments againts Town Teams to notch a Win. Ill take Runnin Rebels in that one v Leg. Hawks? They may win 1 game.....against their B team which is in the same bracket! Exp vs Rebels or Rush in Finals...Exp beats up either one of them and re-sets everyones expectations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Leg was bad last year. I think Igloo beat them 2x last season and Igloo had to play out of town tournaments againts Town Teams to notch a Win. Ill take Runnin Rebels in that one v Leg. Hawks? They may win 1 game.....against their B team which is in the same bracket! Exp vs Rebels or Rush in Finals...Exp beats up either one of them and re-sets everyones expectations.


I agree Legacy did not do well, but fact is Rebels did worse and lost to Legacy last year. They will be on lower level. And S2S Hawks actually did okay last year. And compared to R$sh seemed a bit stronger. R$sh and S2S Hawks could flip flop in list, but it will be either Hawks or R$sh against CoachC in the final championship game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Leg was bad last year. I think Igloo beat them 2x last season and Igloo had to play out of town tournaments againts Town Teams to notch a Win. Ill take Runnin Rebels in that one v Leg. Hawks? They may win 1 game.....against their B team which is in the same bracket! Exp vs Rebels or Rush in Finals...Exp beats up either one of them and re-sets everyones expectations.

Good news for Express 2nd, 3rd and 4th string. Should get decent playing time.

Good news for Express 2nd, 3rd and 4th string. Should get decent playing time.[/quote]

This made me laugh
That was a gimme. But they still wont see time unless they are up by 20........... I guess everyone will have better answers on Tuesday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good news for Express 2nd, 3rd and 4th string. Should get decent playing time.


This made me laugh [/quote]

It’s going to be tough to get to the 4th string...1st team needs to get up by 12 or so before they take their foot off the gas.
Rebels vs Express in finals. I say that because they don’t face CoachC so they might not have a loss but I don’t think they’re the second best team in this tournament
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels vs Express in finals. I say that because they don’t face CoachC so they might not have a loss but I don’t think they’re the second best team in this tournament


The 2nd best team is either R$sh or S2S Hawks. But I agree Rebels could end up in championship. But not because they are even close to being one of the better teams. And it's pretty unlikely.
The list above is correct. But Rebels has a fairly godmother for this tournament by not having to face CoachC in their 1st 3 games. While R$sh, S2S Hawks, and Legacy automatically have one lost game since they face CoachC.
Rebels got a 2nd gift since they face S2S Barracudas in the tournament which is a B team. So they have a pretty clear win there. (Its unfair to the Barracudas that S2S put them in this tournament when there is not multiple brackets. Clearly S2S is looking at what economically works for the organisation and not what's best for the team.)
But Rebels will defenitely lose to S2S Hawks.
So CoachC will be only one who has 3 and 0 record
Rest will at best have a 2 to 1 record
So will depend on who wins S2S Hawks vs R$sh game
And Rebels vs Legacy game. (I do think will be Legacy though. But you never know.)
And then out of those winners you have to go by the rules. If by chance Rebels beat Legacy, then they better hope R$sh beats the Hawks. Because otherwise its Hawks in championship because they would have beat Rebels already head to head. If R$sh though beat Hawks, then it will come down to total goals against for both teams.
So honestly even with Rebels getting lucky to not initially face CoachC and to have an easy game against Barracudas, its remote at best if they make it to championship.
They better have a fairy godmother who doesnt fall asleep.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Rebels ...please , it’s cute of them trying to qualify for the WSL. Let me know when they play 91, express, Legacy

That's cute. Putting Legacy with Express and 91. I think even Igloo beat Legacy last season.


But Rebels did not. So that tells you the ridiculousness of people trying to act like that team is in the mix at all.

I would think they would be in the mix as much as S2S, Igloo, True Blue, etc.
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.
Every team is in the mix, it’s a new season. Changes were made on every single team. Some teams lots of changes. Saying this team beat that team or that team beat this team is meaningless. It was a different team and a different season. Nothing left to say. One guy just wrote a novel on breaking down 12 year old boys lacrosse teams. Too funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.


Mad Dog will lose to CoachC in the finals. They are the two best teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.


Mad Dog will lose to CoachC in the finals. They are the two best teams.


Fool, Mad Dog is not in the Colmbus Day tournament
When did the Golden Geese get changed to Titans?
What is this based on? Have you seen Igloo play? Or Rupoop? I think you are confusing yourself. Igloo may post a goose egg..they used to be good but lost a ton of kids and replaced them with thieir own B teamers. RUpoop will be competitive. And you will be looking like a bigger fool come Tuesday morning when you are posting to this board.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels vs Express in finals. I say that because they don’t face CoachC so they might not have a loss but I don’t think they’re the second best team in this tournament


The 2nd best team is either R$sh or S2S Hawks. But I agree Rebels could end up in championship. But not because they are even close to being one of the better teams. And it's pretty unlikely.
The list above is correct. But Rebels has a fairly godmother for this tournament by not having to face CoachC in their 1st 3 games. While R$sh, S2S Hawks, and Legacy automatically have one lost game since they face CoachC.
Rebels got a 2nd gift since they face S2S Barracudas in the tournament which is a B team. So they have a pretty clear win there. (Its unfair to the Barracudas that S2S put them in this tournament when there is not multiple brackets. Clearly S2S is looking at what economically works for the organisation and not what's best for the team.)
But Rebels will defenitely lose to S2S Hawks.
So CoachC will be only one who has 3 and 0 record
Rest will at best have a 2 to 1 record
So will depend on who wins S2S Hawks vs R$sh game
And Rebels vs Legacy game. (I do think will be Legacy though. But you never know.)
And then out of those winners you have to go by the rules. If by chance Rebels beat Legacy, then they better hope R$sh beats the Hawks. Because otherwise its Hawks in championship because they would have beat Rebels already head to head. If R$sh though beat Hawks, then it will come down to total goals against for both teams.
So honestly even with Rebels getting lucky to not initially face CoachC and to have an easy game against Barracudas, its remote at best if they make it to championship.
They better have a fairy godmother who doesnt fall asleep.

Dude, get a life....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.


Mad Dog will lose to CoachC in the finals. They are the two best teams.

Why wouldn't they have a chance to beat igloo? What did igloo do to improve from last season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this based on? Have you seen Igloo play? Or Rupoop? I think you are confusing yourself. Igloo may post a goose egg..they used to be good but lost a ton of kids and replaced them with thieir own B teamers. RUpoop will be competitive. And you will be looking like a bigger fool come Tuesday morning when you are posting to this board.


I have seen both play. And last year they came off stronger than R$sh. But honestly R$sh improved as the season went on. So I think that will be a competitive game. But I dont disagree with you that Igloo is really messed up from the inside. And it goes way beyond them losing some kids. They need a major administration overhaul. Because they messed up this organisation. However, I do think they will still easily enough beat Rebels and Legacy like they did last year. And since they wont initially face CoachC they have an advantage to help them get to the championship. As I said if R$sh beats them it will all come down to the R$sh vs S2S game. R$sh has the toughest first 3 game lineup compared to everyone else. If R$sh beats S2S then they will be in the championship against CoachC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.


Mad Dog will lose to CoachC in the finals. They are the two best teams.

Why wouldn't they have a chance to beat igloo? What did igloo do to improve from last season?


Who is "they" that you are referring to? Rebels?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S Barracudas is a 2026 team.


Looks like tourney corrected bracket. Because they originally had barracudas in 2025 division. And they didnt have Igloo listed. Well that changes things.


Based on that change rebels wont have a chance of getting into championship. They will lose to igloo and to S2S Hawks. And its questionable if they can even beat Legacy.
My bet is it will be Igloo vs CoachC in championship. Igloo doesnt face CoachC in its first 3 games, and it also has 2 easy games against Rebels and Legacy. Its questionable game is against R$sh. If it can win that game it will be 3 to 0 like CoachC and be in championship.
If it loses that game it will be 2 to 1. Then it will depend on R$sh game against S2S Hawks. If R$sh wins then R$sh will be in championship game because they already beat Igloo head to head. However if S2S wins then it will depend on whether Igloo or S2S have the better Goals against numbers.


Mad Dog will lose to CoachC in the finals. They are the two best teams.

Why wouldn't they have a chance to beat igloo? What did igloo do to improve from last season?


Who is "they" that you are referring to? Rebels?

Well your first three sentences were referring to the Rebels so yes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When did the Golden Geese get changed to Titans?


Classic bait n switch!
Sharks are out and replaced by Igloo team. You really put alot of thought into this. Keep in mind this is a fall tourney. And in end its The Chanster and then everyone else. If you are looking to leave with a tee shirt Id suggest you hit the vendors .
This board is some really entertaining nonsense. Thank you for allowing me to waste precious company time reading this. My only comment is S2S? Really? They were terrible last year too. And how have you seen any of these teams play since the roster changes? On any given day man.... Based on last year tho, Exp dominates and all the oothers are just bunched up. Not 1 of them stands out above the other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is some really entertaining nonsense. Thank you for allowing me to waste precious company time reading this. My only comment is S2S? Really? They were terrible last year too. And how have you seen any of these teams play since the roster changes? On any given day man.... Based on last year tho, Exp dominates and all the oothers are just bunched up. Not 1 of them stands out above the other.

All true.
The Voice of reason
The R$SH team added some talent, included some older kids playing down, they're going to be better than most people realize at this point. Don't be surprised if they make a splash.

As for Legacy, a couple of their top players are hurt, and they may get steamrolled as a result.

Igloo and Rebels both lost some players in the offseason, but both are probably better than Legacy as of the tourney on Monday.

And as for Coach Captncrunch, let's stop pretending that his Express team is anything more than the collective result of various lacrosse parents' insecurities. Yes, they're the best team by far on Long Island and will win it all. But that's only because the parents already lost by showing their kids that the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude builds better character than loyalty to your teammates. If a bunch of parents all of a sudden decided their kids were going to play for the Rebels, the Rebels would be the best team on Long Island. It has nothing to do with Express and everything to do with the psychology of parents who live through their kids. Coach Captncrunch is a high school lacrosse coach who is the biggest thing in the world of 12 year old lacrosse in Nassau County, New York. If you think that's a big deal, you must be a junior high coach of 11 year olds.
S2S bringing in some 2024s that "qualify" for WSYL??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The R$SH team added some talent, included some older kids playing down, they're going to be better than most people realize at this point. Don't be surprised if they make a splash.

As for Legacy, a couple of their top players are hurt, and they may get steamrolled as a result.

Igloo and Rebels both lost some players in the offseason, but both are probably better than Legacy as of the tourney on Monday.

And as for Coach Captncrunch, let's stop pretending that his Express team is anything more than the collective result of various lacrosse parents' insecurities. Yes, they're the best team by far on Long Island and will win it all. But that's only because the parents already lost by showing their kids that the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude builds better character than loyalty to your teammates. If a bunch of parents all of a sudden decided their kids were going to play for the Rebels, the Rebels would be the best team on Long Island. It has nothing to do with Express and everything to do with the psychology of parents who live through their kids. Coach Captncrunch is a high school lacrosse coach who is the biggest thing in the world of 12 year old lacrosse in Nassau County, New York. If you think that's a big deal, you must be a junior high coach of 11 year olds.


It will defenitely be interesting to see how teams gave changed since tryouts. Although if you are telling me R$sh is playing kids down who are really a year older (especially if they are not actually in 7th grade) that is just BS. And doesnt say much for them. But I wouldnt doubt their coach would do that. (Honestly though based on scrimmages they already had, I am not so sure R$sh is going to be that great. Or it may be they need time to gel if they made a lot of player changes.)

Rebels though doesnt even come close to Igloo. Igloo steamrolled them last year. And Rebels barely beat anyone. Certainly not anyone decent. What good players would be attracted to their team?? Like really?? And as you said they lost players who were probably some of the better players. No matter what the issues with Igloo, you cant even think Rebels are on the same level as them.

This isn't really a debate about whether we agree with the CoachC team model. Most of us agree that we dont. Although I do think you underscore the great coaching all those players do get. That's true. But I dont agree with the team overloading and kids barely if ever getting to play. Its nuts parents stay if that's happening to their kid.
But either way, their is no point in discussing them as regards the tournament. We know they will win their games and it's a question of who will face them in the championship. So they are just a nondiscussion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is some really entertaining nonsense. Thank you for allowing me to waste precious company time reading this. My only comment is S2S? Really? They were terrible last year too. And how have you seen any of these teams play since the roster changes? On any given day man.... Based on last year tho, Exp dominates and all the oothers are just bunched up. Not 1 of them stands out above the other.

All true.


That's just ridiculous. Clearly you dont open your eyes and watch the games then. If your actually interested in lacrosse you can clearly see what teams work together, pass well, have players who control the ball, have players who display field awareness and we can go on.
The fact is by the actual season in June and July although 91 and Express dominated you could still see that teams like Roar, R$sh, Force, Igloo, and yes even S2S Hawks showed they were better than most of the others. Whether after tryouts those teams will be worse or better is something we will find out. And honestly we may not find out in the fall. It probably wont be until June that you will really see the teams that develop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The R$SH team added some talent, included some older kids playing down, they're going to be better than most people realize at this point. Don't be surprised if they make a splash.

As for Legacy, a couple of their top players are hurt, and they may get steamrolled as a result.

Igloo and Rebels both lost some players in the offseason, but both are probably better than Legacy as of the tourney on Monday.

And as for Coach Captncrunch, let's stop pretending that his Express team is anything more than the collective result of various lacrosse parents' insecurities. Yes, they're the best team by far on Long Island and will win it all. But that's only because the parents already lost by showing their kids that the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude builds better character than loyalty to your teammates. If a bunch of parents all of a sudden decided their kids were going to play for the Rebels, the Rebels would be the best team on Long Island. It has nothing to do with Express and everything to do with the psychology of parents who live through their kids. Coach Captncrunch is a high school lacrosse coach who is the biggest thing in the world of 12 year old lacrosse in Nassau County, New York. If you think that's a big deal, you must be a junior high coach of 11 year olds.


It will defenitely be interesting to see how teams gave changed since tryouts. Although if you are telling me R$sh is playing kids down who are really a year older (especially if they are not actually in 7th grade) that is just BS. And doesnt say much for them. But I wouldnt doubt their coach would do that. (Honestly though based on scrimmages they already had, I am not so sure R$sh is going to be that great. Or it may be they need time to gel if they made a lot of player changes.)

Rebels though doesnt even come close to Igloo. Igloo steamrolled them last year. And Rebels barely beat anyone. Certainly not anyone decent. What good players would be attracted to their team?? Like really?? And as you said they lost players who were probably some of the better players. No matter what the issues with Igloo, you cant even think Rebels are on the same level as them.

This isn't really a debate about whether we agree with the CoachC team model. Most of us agree that we dont. Although I do think you underscore the great coaching all those players do get. That's true. But I dont agree with the team overloading and kids barely if ever getting to play. Its nuts parents stay if that's happening to their kid.
But either way, their is no point in discussing them as regards the tournament. We know they will win their games and it's a question of who will face them in the championship. So they are just a nondiscussion.

steamrolled? hahaha. Igloo had to go up north to play nobody to win anything so just stop. They lost a bunch of players from the team that didn't do well last year. Its a new year and anything can happen (except express losing on Columbus day).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The R$SH team added some talent, included some older kids playing down, they're going to be better than most people realize at this point. Don't be surprised if they make a splash.

As for Legacy, a couple of their top players are hurt, and they may get steamrolled as a result.

Igloo and Rebels both lost some players in the offseason, but both are probably better than Legacy as of the tourney on Monday.

And as for Coach Captncrunch, let's stop pretending that his Express team is anything more than the collective result of various lacrosse parents' insecurities. Yes, they're the best team by far on Long Island and will win it all. But that's only because the parents already lost by showing their kids that the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude builds better character than loyalty to your teammates. If a bunch of parents all of a sudden decided their kids were going to play for the Rebels, the Rebels would be the best team on Long Island. It has nothing to do with Express and everything to do with the psychology of parents who live through their kids. Coach Captncrunch is a high school lacrosse coach who is the biggest thing in the world of 12 year old lacrosse in Nassau County, New York. If you think that's a big deal, you must be a junior high coach of 11 year olds.


It will defenitely be interesting to see how teams gave changed since tryouts. Although if you are telling me R$sh is playing kids down who are really a year older (especially if they are not actually in 7th grade) that is just BS. And doesnt say much for them. But I wouldnt doubt their coach would do that. (Honestly though based on scrimmages they already had, I am not so sure R$sh is going to be that great. Or it may be they need time to gel if they made a lot of player changes.)

Rebels though doesnt even come close to Igloo. Igloo steamrolled them last year. And Rebels barely beat anyone. Certainly not anyone decent. What good players would be attracted to their team?? Like really?? And as you said they lost players who were probably some of the better players. No matter what the issues with Igloo, you cant even think Rebels are on the same level as them.

This isn't really a debate about whether we agree with the CoachC team model. Most of us agree that we dont. Although I do think you underscore the great coaching all those players do get. That's true. But I dont agree with the team overloading and kids barely if ever getting to play. Its nuts parents stay if that's happening to their kid.
But either way, their is no point in discussing them as regards the tournament. We know they will win their games and it's a question of who will face them in the championship. So they are just a nondiscussion.

steamrolled? hahaha. Igloo had to go up north to play nobody to win anything so just stop. They lost a bunch of players from the team that didn't do well last year. Its a new year and anything can happen (except express losing on Columbus day).


Igloo goes up north to play noname tournaments because they are being cheap and are only interested in lining their own pockets. So they put in their schedule noname less expensive tournaments. They charge outrageous tuition and dont actually provide a product equal to what they charge. They are not looking to avoid competition. They just want to keep as much of the tuition money as profit as they can.
I heard director at IGLOO had to step in as a coach because they were so bad last year. If thats true, along with the defections and not being able to replace with any talent ( thats what these posts all say but I have no clue) I wouldnt place your bet on them at this point. I can tell you my sons team played them last year and alot of those kids were selfish babies. Stick slamming, pouting, calling each other out and they flat out quit by half. If thats still going on I will take Rebels, Legacy, Ducks, S2S, Maddog, CoachC, Tru Blew and any other team out there to beat them as this is not a "Me" game. And if the new coach is a blow-hard, kids like that wont respond. They will fold. Check please.......................
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard director at IGLOO had to step in as a coach because they were so bad last year. If thats true, along with the defections and not being able to replace with any talent ( thats what these posts all say but I have no clue) I wouldnt place your bet on them at this point. I can tell you my sons team played them last year and alot of those kids were selfish babies. Stick slamming, pouting, calling each other out and they flat out quit by half. If thats still going on I will take Rebels, Legacy, Ducks, S2S, Maddog, CoachC, Tru Blew and any other team out there to beat them as this is not a "Me" game. And if the new coach is a blow-hard, kids like that wont respond. They will fold. Check please.......................


You are correct. Director is now coach. But he is the organisation. Just about lining his pocket. Igloo has been destroyed by greed.
Blatant fall tournament on tourney shows Sour Grapes registered in A bracket. Who is Sour Grapes?
And in the B bracket they list 2 school lacrosse teams. Stimson Wildcats and Middle Country.
I assume those are middle school lacrosse teams but wouldnt that be mostly 8th graders. How can they play in the 2025 division?
Sounds like it’s time for the Mixed Nuts! Still undefeated!
91 using their PAL helmets...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The R$SH team added some talent, included some older kids playing down, they're going to be better than most people realize at this point. Don't

And as for Coach Captncrunch, let's stop pretending that his Express team is anything more than the collective result of various lacrosse parents' insecurities. Yes, they're the best team by far on Long Island and will win it all. But that's only because the parents already lost by showing their kids that the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude builds better character than loyalty to your teammates. If a bunch of parents all of a sudden decided their kids were going to play for the Rebels, the Rebels would be the best team on Long Island. It has nothing to do with Express and everything to do with the psychology of parents who live through their kids. Coach Captncrunch is a high school lacrosse coach who is the biggest thing in the world of 12 year old lacrosse in Nassau County, New York. If you think that's a big deal, you must be a junior high coach of 11 year olds.


100% true!
Schedules are up for Blatant!

Who got “lucky”, who got a rough draw?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Schedules are up for Blatant!

Who got “lucky”, who got a rough draw?


I guess after Mondays Columbus tournament we will know better
So who do people think Sour Grapes is that entered the Blatant tournament?
Go to page 19 and see who is referred to as sour grapes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who do people think Sour Grapes is that entered the Blatant tournament?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to page 19 and see who is referred to as sour grapes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who do people think Sour Grapes is that entered the Blatant tournament?



Too funny. So mixed nuts (91 players with their pal helmets) decided to change their name to sour grapes. Guess people on this board got under their skin. Cant stop laughing.
I love how their coach pulled them from the tournament because he didn't feel confidant in them, so they decide to play it anyway.
Sour grapes are about to be smushed.
Sorry to disappoint you, sour grapes and Mixed Nuts are not the same team.

Signed the big Cashew.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry to disappoint you, sour grapes and Mixed Nuts are not the same team.

Signed the big Cashew.


"Definitely not", said the fox to the gingerbread man. "You can trust me."

Cant stop laughing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry to disappoint you, sour grapes and Mixed Nuts are not the same team.

Signed the big Cashew.


"Definitely not", said the fox to the gingerbread man. "You can trust me."

Cant stop laughing.

some of you people are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry to disappoint you, sour grapes and Mixed Nuts are not the same team.

Signed the big Cashew.


"Definitely not", said the fox to the gingerbread man. "You can trust me."

Cant stop laughing.

some of you people are pathetic.
Some.. is an under statement
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry to disappoint you, sour grapes and Mixed Nuts are not the same team.

Signed the big Cashew.


"Definitely not", said the fox to the gingerbread man. "You can trust me."

Cant stop laughing.

some of you people are pathetic.


Oh. Big Cashew do I see a crack developing. Next time dont enter the nut cracker.
Maybe we should c hff angels your name to Cracked Nuts.
Blatant is still a week away. You have time.
Does S2S give refunds?
What happened in the final S2S vs Rush game at the Columbus tournament?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does S2S give refunds?


What a disgrace... did their teams even practice before the Columbus Day tournament?
CoachC in class by themselves . Rebels and R U S h much better than legacy/S2S/Igloo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does S2S give refunds?


What a disgrace... did their teams even practice before the Columbus Day tournament?

Can you explain for those of us that were not there?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does S2S give refunds?


What a disgrace... did their teams even practice before the Columbus Day tournament?

Can you explain for those of us that were not there?


Especially since Blatant hasn't updated tourney with half the scores. So annoying
STS won against RUSH, 4 to 3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does S2S give refunds?


What a disgrace... did their teams even practice before the Columbus Day tournament?

Can you explain for those of us that were not there?


they went O-fer in every division except 2027
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CoachC in class by themselves . Rebels and R U S h much better than legacy/S2S/Igloo



You are too funny. Rebels had to bring down 8th graders to play and S2S beat Rupoop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CoachC in class by themselves . Rebels and R U S h much better than legacy/S2S/Igloo



You are too funny. Rebels had to bring down 8th graders to play and S2S beat Rupoop.


Did S2S bear R$sh?. I thought S2S did not win anything except in the 2027 division? You cant go by tourney. The actual 3rd game scores were never put in by Legacy for the tournament.

Did Rebels use kids from the 2024 Rebels team? Oh r are you saying they have hold backs on the 2025 team. If they used 2024 players that will show at Blatant because 2024 Rebels is playing, so they cant use them there.
It was Columbus Day tournament. Legacy tournament. Not Blatant.
What the heck happened to Igloo?
Nothing happened. They are exactly what they always are. A collection of players ( I purposely avoid the word "team") that cant score, get frustrated, slow ball movement, etc. They looked just as bad as S2S. New & old Coaches, same results. RUpoop looked good but drew a tough schedule and Rebels looked as good as advertised on this board but they have a lot of things to work on too. Then there was Xpress... I guess they have to play somebody smile
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nothing happened. They are exactly what they always are. A collection of players ( I purposely avoid the word "team") that cant score, get frustrated, slow ball movement, etc. They looked just as bad as S2S. New & old Coaches, same results. RUpoop looked good but drew a tough schedule and Rebels looked as good as advertised on this board but they have a lot of things to work on too. Then there was Xpress... I guess they have to play somebody smile


Did R$sh lose or win to S2S in the 3rd game? There are conflicting reports on this board.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.

Id say that's accurate.
As the board said last week: Its Express and then the rest.... But the rest, with the exception of Rebels, looked like watered down town clubs with the hefty pricetag. Do these clubs offer refunds for failure to deliver? Id be asking for my money back today .
It’s fall ball. Kids are playing football, kids are playing soccer. I hear you and you have a valid point. I think most teams come spring will be clicking much better.
Express was in a class by themselves. They put a double digit beatdown on everyone they played, including the "2025" Rebels, which had to add older kids and a couple of fly-ins in order to look competitive. The best moment of the tournament came when the Ref had to stop the championship game between Express and Rebels with about 10 minutes to go because the Rebels coaches were behaving so poorly, yelling at the Ref, etc, as if it was the Ref's fault the Rebs were being absolutely dominated by Express (Express was up 8-2 at the time, and it wasn't even that close). Horrible sportsmanship on the Rebels coaching sideline by grownups who should know better, which was then being mimicked by a couple of the players after the game was called prematurely. Embarrassing, actually. The takeaway from the whole thing is that Rupoop, Igloo, and S2S (and the age-eligible Rebels) are all one in the same, with Express playing on another level. And you know Express is dominating when kids 18-32 on the depth chart are on the field. As for Legacy, which won in the other age-groups but threw a goosegg in 2025, you have to wonder where they go from here. I guess the only unknown at this point is 91, and how long Rebels can get away with supplementing their actual team with bring-downs and honorable guests.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express was in a class by themselves. They put a double digit beatdown on everyone they played, including the "2025" Rebels, which had to add older kids and a couple of fly-ins in order to look competitive. The best moment of the tournament came when the Ref had to stop the championship game between Express and Rebels with about 10 minutes to go because the Rebels coaches were behaving so poorly, yelling at the Ref, etc, as if it was the Ref's fault the Rebs were being absolutely dominated by Express (Express was up 8-2 at the time, and it wasn't even that close). Horrible sportsmanship on the Rebels coaching sideline by grownups who should know better, which was then being mimicked by a couple of the players after the game was called prematurely. Embarrassing, actually. The takeaway from the whole thing is that Rupoop, Igloo, and S2S (and the age-eligible Rebels) are all one in the same, with Express playing on another level. And you know Express is dominating when kids 18-32 on the depth chart are on the field. As for Legacy, which won in the other age-groups but threw a goosegg in 2025, you have to wonder where they go from here. I guess the only unknown at this point is 91, and how long Rebels can get away with supplementing their actual team with bring-downs and honorable guests.

Express is definitely alone atop the pyramid. Nobody close. Not sure where you get your info about the Rebels roster. Legacy/Igloo parent? You should be scrambling to get your son out of that burning dumpster.
You may be one of the most Arrogant posters i have seen. FYI . Thats the only EXPRESS team that has been on TOP for the last 5 years. could be more. They are not even that great. The talent pool at the 2025 is lacking . they just happen to have the best of the worst. FOR NOW. There is a few good kids on that team. You will see in 2 years that team will not dominate at all .
Why would you say Rebels brought down other kids? I know several kids on that team and the parents say that is anything but the truth. They actually cultivate their talent and the results seemed to agree with that. Im assuming the author of the last post was a parent of a kid on a team that was defeated by the Rebs. For the record, I am one of those parents but it is what it is. They were better prepared than our kids were.

As for the coaches, I didnt see it . Regardless, you cant take away unbeaten tournament play from those kids even if the coaches had a meltdown. I heard a few coaches from the various teams took penalties for mouthing off during the day so I guess that makes them all a little too invested.

Heck, at this point I wish I had my son go to their tryouts after what I saw yesterday . Go figure..... Sincerely, Disgruntled!!!
Championship game with ONE Ref, that was clueless. Penalties 6 to 1 at that point for express. Then express clearly did not touch in in 10 seconds permitted to get in box. Did coaches go off, yes they did. Then ref walked off field dropping F bombs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You may be one of the most Arrogant posters i have seen. FYI . Thats the only EXPRESS team that has been on TOP for the last 5 years. could be more. They are not even that great. The talent pool at the 2025 is lacking . they just happen to have the best of the worst. FOR NOW. There is a few good kids on that team. You will see in 2 years that team will not dominate at all .


Lol, Einstein. Legacy Geese, just two years ago won this tourney over Express. And Legacy, 91 and Express all had high quality teams. In two years nobody Has caught up, just two teams declined, one slightly and one significantly, and one got better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express was in a class by themselves. They put a double digit beatdown on everyone they played, including the "2025" Rebels, which had to add older kids and a couple of fly-ins in order to look competitive. The best moment of the tournament came when the Ref had to stop the championship game between Express and Rebels with about 10 minutes to go because the Rebels coaches were behaving so poorly, yelling at the Ref, etc, as if it was the Ref's fault the Rebs were being absolutely dominated by Express (Express was up 8-2 at the time, and it wasn't even that close). Horrible sportsmanship on the Rebels coaching sideline by grownups who should know better, which was then being mimicked by a couple of the players after the game was called prematurely. Embarrassing, actually. The takeaway from the whole thing is that Rupoop, Igloo, and S2S (and the age-eligible Rebels) are all one in the same, with Express playing on another level. And you know Express is dominating when kids 18-32 on the depth chart are on the field. As for Legacy, which won in the other age-groups but threw a goosegg in 2025, you have to wonder where they go from here. I guess the only unknown at this point is 91, and how long Rebels can get away with supplementing their actual team with bring-downs and honorable guests.



One ref on championship game, let it get out of hand. Express Clearly better team, calls were very tough. Looked like official wanted to get out of there early. New season, same top team. Definitely a mixed on teams 3-6.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express was in a class by themselves. They put a double digit beatdown on everyone they played, including the "2025" Rebels, which had to add older kids and a couple of fly-ins in order to look competitive. The best moment of the tournament came when the Ref had to stop the championship game between Express and Rebels with about 10 minutes to go because the Rebels coaches were behaving so poorly, yelling at the Ref, etc, as if it was the Ref's fault the Rebs were being absolutely dominated by Express (Express was up 8-2 at the time, and it wasn't even that close). Horrible sportsmanship on the Rebels coaching sideline by grownups who should know better, which was then being mimicked by a couple of the players after the game was called prematurely. Embarrassing, actually. The takeaway from the whole thing is that Rupoop, Igloo, and S2S (and the age-eligible Rebels) are all one in the same, with Express playing on another level. And you know Express is dominating when kids 18-32 on the depth chart are on the field. As for Legacy, which won in the other age-groups but threw a goosegg in 2025, you have to wonder where they go from here. I guess the only unknown at this point is 91, and how long Rebels can get away with supplementing their actual team with bring-downs and honorable guests.

Express is definitely alone atop the pyramid. Nobody close. Not sure where you get your info about the Rebels roster. Legacy/Igloo parent? You should be scrambling to get your son out of that burning dumpster.
you really think that post came from an IGLOO / Legacy parent. Fat , dense and notIntelligent is no way to go through life. Really the Rebels? outlaws. To funny that you would even cast stones. JOKE. Nice Helmets though!!!
"Why would you say Rebels brought down other kids? I know several kids on that team and the parents say that is anything but the truth." - LOL. Believe those unbiased and trusting sources if you want, but it's true. As another poster pointed out, we'll see what happens when their 24 and 25 teams are playing simultaneously. Or, you can simply scroll through last year's results and ask yourself how a team that couldn't beat anyone three months ago changed so dramatically without any influx of kids from the other top programs? (I know, I know, they practiced super hard since late August with an exotic program no one has ever tried before.) That being said, good for the Rebels. Someone needed to finish a distant second to Express, and on Monday it was them. At Blatant it will be someone else getting their doors blown off. And the tournament after that, and the one after that. It's Express's world, and everyone else is just living in it. The fight for second this weekend should be entertaining.
Maybe your kid can tryout for a Rebel team and get one of those shiny red helmets nest season? Then again, he probably wouldnt make it. The train has left the station...Get out of the way little man !!!!!!!
Nobody cares about Xpress. They are irrelevant...sort of like you. But they are #1 in that age group. We established that 50 posts ago. Do you have a point? If so, make it or go away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody cares about Xpress. They are irrelevant...sort of like you. But they are #1 in that age group. We established that 50 posts ago. Do you have a point? If so, make it or go away.
Everyone cares about Express. They are the talk of the Town.. So shinny, lets play there.. they must be good
Thank god we only have 2 more seasons of hearing this bs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody cares about Xpress. They are irrelevant...sort of like you. But they are #1 in that age group. We established that 50 posts ago. Do you have a point? If so, make it or go away.


Well people do care, it’s a lax blog. The Rebels just sent out an email bragging about going 3-0 in pool play in a stacked bracket. It’s the way it is. Don’t like it, sorry.
I thought the little man was the Rebels coach that embarrassed himself and his team by forfeiting the championship game because he couldn't control himself on the sideline? That's some train. Toot toot!
OMG THIS IS GREAT STUFF! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT MAKES IT HAPPEN! KEEP IT GOING!!!
I cant argue that. even if the ref was going off that guy should know better. Bad look, shiny helmet or not....
Sour Gapes out at Blatant according to Tourney machine
Can’t wait for you pups to get into HS years. This stuff won’t matter. 1/2 your kids won’t be playing anymore. 1/2 of the 1/2 won’t play travel and

ask anyone with older boys -travel lax is a chore for the teens. They detest it. Rather be hanging out with friends and chatting up young ladies

Enjoy it now it almost over
"The Rebels just sent out an email bragging about going 3-0 in pool play in a stacked bracket." It is statements like this that keep me coming back here for entertainment. To who did the Rebels send the email? The New York Times? Did their press release define "stacked bracket" as Legacy, S2S and Igloo? Because that's who the tourney app says they played, and that's a pretty comical definition of "stacked" - two organizations that have been picked over for talent by everyone else while their ownership stood idly by and another team that's never been a factor in this age group. The tourney app also says that the Rebels 2024 team wasn't at the tourney, but their 2025 team was. Hmmmmm. Maybe there is something more to the Rebels performance against those three "stacked" giants of 2025 lacrosse than meets the eye, although it's surprising to hear about the Rebels coaches forfeiting the game, as they are known to be pretty nice guys from what I understand.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.


Funny, tourney machine has the score of the Legacy-Express game as 12-2 Legacy and has their record as 1-2 and Channeys as 2-1 I guess TZ didn't want to show the big "Goose Egg" on the standings!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.


Funny, tourney machine has the score of the Legacy-Express game as 12-2 Legacy and has their record as 1-2 and Channeys as 2-1 I guess TZ didn't want to show the big "Goose Egg" on the standings!!


Not sure what you are looking at, but tourney clearly shows Legacy/ Express game as 12 to 2 CoachC.
And has CoachC 3 to 0
And has Legacy 0 to 3
What's crazy is tourney shows S2S beat R$sh 4 to 3. WTH. So does that mean R$sh was worse than S2S. And since Igloo was beat by R$sh then Igloo is worse than S2S. What the heck happened to these teams in 3 months?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.


Legacy coaches must be screaming at the defense ! They only scored 6 goals in three games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.


Legacy coaches must be screaming at the defense ! They only scored 6 goals in three games.

why would they be screaming at the defense? The offense was stagnant, they should be screaming at them
Igloo didnt even have a tent. I guess $4k tuition doesnt include that? They better hope it doesnt rain this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo didnt even have a tent. I guess $4k tuition doesn't include that? They better hope it doesnt rain this weekend.

They lost a significant amount of players over the summer and I wouldn't be surprised if they lose a few more over the winter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe your kid can tryout for a Rebel team and get one of those shiny red helmets nest season? Then again, he probably wouldnt make it. The train has left the station...Get out of the way little man !!!!!!!

The Rebels have at least 2 kids that played 2024 last year that are age eligible for the 2024 WSYL team.
Stop with this nonsense.. "Rebels imports talent from Russia", blah, blah... Rebels can probably take 1/2 of those kids and play them up even if they are younger. But you would complain about that too. Just like everyone complains about Coach C.

Excuses are like the program(s) you come from....they are rotten and stink of dysfunction. Stop denying your true desire, go to the Blatant team store and buy yourself some Rebels gear. They can even customize it and have "Rebels #1 Fan" or "I want my kid to be a Rebel" printed on it for you. No extra charge. Now take that, like the beating you probably took last weekend, and disperse.
OMG, we get it, Igloo is terrible. Didn’t realize parents now judge programs on their current tent situation, in that case, I am all about the orange and black since those are Fall colors. Igloo lost one or two good “kids” this year but their talent level was not above or beyond what is currently on the team. The PARENTS that left should be happy for themselves and their kids since they avoided the preverbal “train wreck.” Be happy and MOVE THE “F” ON! Clearly Rebels is a better fit for your kid and it’s “better than advertised.” They made it to the finals with ZERO chance of winning the final game and in order to save the team from ultimate embarrassment, the head coach causes a situation and the game gets cancelled early otherwise that game ends in a lot to a little score. Kudos to you coach. Express clearly is the best team around here in the 2025 bracket and should win the WSYL and they deserve it because they play at a level higher than any other team around here with maybe the exception of 9d1 (yet to be seen this year). Everyone else needs to take a step back because your kid IS NOT GOING TO A D1 COLLEGE TO PLAY LACROSSE. Please take sometime today and look up the word Sociopath then go look in the mirror and ask yourself, “is this me?” How would my son react if he knew I was bashing other teams anonymously on a social media platform that boarders cyber bullying? Meanwhile all we do is try to teach our kids that bullying is unacceptable. Stay strong dads Sunday is almost hear.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, we get it, Igloo is terrible. Didn’t realize parents now judge programs on their current tent situation, in that case, I am all about the orange and black since those are Fall colors. Igloo lost one or two good “kids” this year but their talent level was not above or beyond what is currently on the team. The PARENTS that left should be happy for themselves and their kids since they avoided the preverbal “train wreck.” Be happy and MOVE THE “F” ON! Clearly Rebels is a better fit for your kid and it’s “better than advertised.” They made it to the finals with ZERO chance of winning the final game and in order to save the team from ultimate embarrassment, the head coach causes a situation and the game gets cancelled early otherwise that game ends in a lot to a little score. Kudos to you coach. Express clearly is the best team around here in the 2025 bracket and should win the WSYL and they deserve it because they play at a level higher than any other team around here with maybe the exception of 9d1 (yet to be seen this year). Everyone else needs to take a step back because your kid IS NOT GOING TO A D1 COLLEGE TO PLAY LACROSSE. Please take sometime today and look up the word Sociopath then go look in the mirror and ask yourself, “is this me?” How would my son react if he knew I was bashing other teams anonymously on a social media platform that boarders cyber bullying? Meanwhile all we do is try to teach our kids that bullying is unacceptable. Stay strong dads Sunday is almost hear.

haha. The tent comment was funny but yes absurd like most comments on here. This is the equivalent of the jersey shore or any of the house wives programs. Take it for what it is. Entertainment. The only concern should be that the kids dont see this trash. They are 12....(In most cases I guess).
Rebels had themselves a nice tournament. Can't we leave it at that? It doesn't mean their kids are better than yours. As a parent of a kid who has friends on that team, I couldn't be happier for them. They lost more than they won last year, this year they may win more than they lose. None of that matters. My older son went through the college recruiting process and played for a team that seemed to go 1-2 or 2-3 every tournament, and he did just fine, as did a nice portion of his teammates. This isn't the pros, where we expect to hear athletes say "I don't care how I did, as long as the team won". This is development time, people. Anyone who tells you that college coaches keep tracks of wins and losses, or even know the score of the games they're scouting, doesn't know what they're talking about. If you want to know who actually "won" at the last tournament, start with the kids who got the most in-game time, and the ones who took another step forward as a result. Good luck to everyone the rest of the way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had themselves a nice tournament. Can't we leave it at that? It doesn't mean their kids are better than yours. As a parent of a kid who has friends on that team, I couldn't be happier for them. They lost more than they won last year, this year they may win more than they lose. None of that matters. My older son went through the college recruiting process and played for a team that seemed to go 1-2 or 2-3 every tournament, and he did just fine, as did a nice portion of his teammates. This isn't the pros, where we expect to hear athletes say "I don't care how I did, as long as the team won". This is development time, people. Anyone who tells you that college coaches keep tracks of wins and losses, or even know the score of the games they're scouting, doesn't know what they're talking about. If you want to know who actually "won" at the last tournament, start with the kids who got the most in-game time, and the ones who took another step forward as a result. Good luck to everyone the rest of the way.

A post that doesn't insult any team or coach? How did this get past the moderator?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What the heck happened to Igloo?

Igloo. TRAINWRECK!! They have no threats on offense. Hows that new coaching staff working out?
Rebs looked ok
RUpoop not impressive even with rumored older "age eligible" kids
Legacy so much screaming the kids didnt know what to do
S2S should be in B division
Express nobody even close. Now you know why they travel so much. No team on LI can compete with them.


Legacy coaches must be screaming at the defense ! They only scored 6 goals in three games.

why would they be screaming at the defense? The offense was stagnant, they should be screaming at them


They never have the ball so the have to scream at the defense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had themselves a nice tournament. Can't we leave it at that? It doesn't mean their kids are better than yours. As a parent of a kid who has friends on that team, I couldn't be happier for them. They lost more than they won last year, this year they may win more than they lose. None of that matters. My older son went through the college recruiting process and played for a team that seemed to go 1-2 or 2-3 every tournament, and he did just fine, as did a nice portion of his teammates. This isn't the pros, where we expect to hear athletes say "I don't care how I did, as long as the team won". This is development time, people. Anyone who tells you that college coaches keep tracks of wins and losses, or even know the score of the games they're scouting, doesn't know what they're talking about. If you want to know who actually "won" at the last tournament, start with the kids who got the most in-game time, and the ones who took another step forward as a result. Good luck to everyone the rest of the way.

A post that doesn't insult any team or coach? How did this get past the moderator?


It's refreshing to hear a rational thought on this thread. Just enjoy watching your kid play and having fun hopefully. This post is 100% accurate, the wins/losses and tournament championships mean NOTHING. Just hope your kid is getting better and still wants to play in a few years if you haven't ruined it for him by then.
OMG, Igloo didn't even have a tent! Someone please alert the lacrosse authorities. How are young athletes supposed to develop without the a tent? The should be banned from all future events until they can prove they supply a tent for their players and parents. How dare they.
I'd invest in Pitch Backs, not a tent, if I were them....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd invest in Pitch Backs, not a tent, if I were them....
iwould have your kids do the same. That goes for all .. Trust me . No rabils out there!!
Tristar is up on tourney, although schedules are not out.
It looks like Roar is there.... I mean Regulators. Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar is up on tourney, although schedules are not out.
It looks like Roar is there.... I mean Regulators. Lol


What's funny about this? You're just showing ignorance. They are different teams. Coach is the same and about 10 of the 25 kids on Regulators play for Roar too. Roar is very much a town team and Regulators is not. How is this different than Massapequa entering a tournament one week and True Blue the next? Or Sachem this week and another Suffolk club team next week? Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar is up on tourney, although schedules are not out.
It looks like Roar is there.... I mean Regulators. Lol


What's funny about this? You're just showing ignorance. They are different teams. Coach is the same and about 10 of the 25 kids on Regulators play for Roar too. Roar is very much a town team and Regulators is not. How is this different than Massapequa entering a tournament one week and True Blue the next? Or Sachem this week and another Suffolk club team next week? Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it.


I guess we will see at the tournament. See you there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to page 19 and see who is referred to as sour grapes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who do people think Sour Grapes is that entered the Blatant tournament?



Too funny. So mixed nuts (91 players with their pal helmets) decided to change their name to sour grapes. Guess people on this board got under their skin. Cant stop laughing.
I love how their coach pulled them from the tournament because he didn't feel confidant in them, so they decide to play it anyway.
Sour grapes are about to be smushed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go to page 19 and see who is referred to as sour grapes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So who do people think Sour Grapes is that entered the Blatant tournament?



Too funny. So mixed nuts (91 players with their pal helmets) decided to change their name to sour grapes. Guess people on this board got under their skin. Cant stop laughing.
I love how their coach pulled them from the tournament because he didn't feel confidant in them, so they decide to play it anyway.
Sour grapes are about to be smushed.


Sour Grapes and Rotten Apples (originally signed up for Columbus Day but dropped out) will never live up to the Mixed Nuts legacy for one reason. They don’t have High Pitch Eric and the bald fat dude as their coaches. Also, the Donkey from 91 got mad at High Pitch for entering Mixed Nuts in tournies and told him to stop. And all 91 parents listen to the Donkey.

They should make one of those stop animation Christmas shows with these characters since just like Rudolph 91
doesn’t play in any games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, Igloo didn't even have a tent! Someone please alert the lacrosse authorities. How are young athletes supposed to develop without the a tent? The should be banned from all future events until they can prove they supply a tent for their players and parents. How dare they.


OMG - you are stalking which teams have tents? You need help.....
When was the last time coach Chan 20/5 team entered a tournament and didn’t win?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When was the last time coach Chan 20/5 team entered a tournament and didn’t win?


Better question to ask is when was the last time True Blue entered a tournament and beat anyone that is halfway decent? A lot of talk but no results
CoachC total class by them selves. The rest of the 2025 teams are Very good. Its just a great group of kids. Some awesome games today
Now we know why 91 took this off the schedule. On to Tri-Star.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When was the last time coach Chan 20/5 team entered a tournament and didn’t win?


91 beat them last summer. They met twice. 91 won one, Express won one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When was the last time coach Chan 20/5 team entered a tournament and didn’t win?


91 beat them last summer. They met twice. 91 won one, Express won one.


Not this season or this summer. Duck and cover
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CoachC total class by them selves. The rest of the 2025 teams are Very good. Its just a great group of kids. Some awesome games today


The games are getting closer with Channys team. I think the gap is closing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When was the last time coach Chan 20/5 team entered a tournament and didn’t win?


Sweetlax Upstate beat them at Naptown the past summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CoachC total class by them selves. The rest of the 2025 teams are Very good. Its just a great group of kids. Some awesome games today


The games are getting closer with Channys team. I think the gap is closing.


Now that’s funny!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OMG, Igloo didn't even have a tent! Someone please alert the lacrosse authorities. How are young athletes supposed to develop without the a tent? The should be banned from all future events until they can prove they supply a tent for their players and parents. How dare they.


OMG - you are stalking which teams have tents? You need help.....


Newsflash; it's sarcasm you dummy.
Forget the tent already unless it is a medical tent of course. I heard the CoachC Machine made easy work of them in the Blatant tournament. Thats sarcasm too in case anyone is confused.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Forget the tent already unless it is a medical tent of course. I heard the CoachC Machine made easy work of them in the Blatant tournament. Thats sarcasm too in case anyone is confused.


CoachC won all their games. That was a given.
Any surprises yesterday? Who looked good and who didn't? (let's try to be serious here...no obnoxious comments). CoachC, Rush, Force and Igloo in the playoffs. Did Igloo redeem themselves from last week? Is Rush the real deal? Force seems to have picked up where they left off last year. Oh, and what happened to Rebels yesterday?
Same story. CoachC and then the rest. FORCE was best of worst. Rebels couldnt catch a pass. Total self destruction. Igloo beat a watered down CSH team but still have absolutely nothing on offense. True Blue got the goose egg. One thing learned: All of these teams have a lot of work to do. There is another tournament next weekend with some better quality teams playing.
It is Express and then every other team. Every other team (Igloo, Rebels, R$sh, Force, S2S) can beat each other any given day.
Would be nice for 91 to play in some of these local tourney's, but we all know how they operate.
Would be nice for one of these other teams to step up and challenge Express, but Express is a well oiled machine, have a fantastic Fogo and play very unselfish.
Hopefully my son's team can make make some strides practicing this winter and come out strong in the spring. At the end all that really matters is that the kids play in games and get better, and still have fun.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Same story. CoachC and then the rest. FORCE was best of worst. Rebels couldnt catch a pass. Total self destruction. Igloo beat a watered down CSH team but still have absolutely nothing on offense. True Blue got the goose egg. One thing learned: All of these teams have a lot of work to do. There is another tournament next weekend with some better quality teams playing.
the whole grade needs work .. Express the Best of the worst. Come to Maryland . we beat you all . Including Express. if thats the best to offer than you guys are in trouble.
Offensive play call of the day. CoachChanTeeth yells “Hey new guy! Dodge!” Kid was horrible and Teethman let him go to cage and New Guy gets slammed. Oh well Mommy, that’s why your son Don’t play and thanks for paying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any surprises yesterday? Who looked good and who didn't? (let's try to be serious here...no obnoxious comments). CoachC, Rush, Force and Igloo in the playoffs. Did Igloo redeem themselves from last week? Is Rush the real deal? Force seems to have picked up where they left off last year. Oh, and what happened to Rebels yesterday?

Who is Team Legacy? Is that the Long Island Legacy team??
I'd like to know if other parents are seriously considering spending $5k-$10k to hump it out to Denver only to lose to Express. I honestly don't see the point in that. In the space of 6 days, Express destroyed S2S, Legacy, True Blue, Igloo, Mad Dog, R $ S H GoldRush twice, and was up 9-2 on the Rebels when the game was suspended with 12 minutes to go. It wasn't even close, and anyone who says differently didn't watch the games as I unfortunately did. Who's left? BBL? 91? Prime Time? And if you think that a winter's worth of practice is going to change anything, consider that Express will be practicing just as hard. The only possibility is if the 91 parents who abandoned their previous teams pull their kids out of that trainwreck before it's too late and move to a different team, which may alter the talent landscape on one of a handful of teams that have a shot of coming within 5 goals of Express. Otherwise, I'm thinking I'd rather spend 4th of July weekend on my boat with my entire family and depositing the $10k across their college funds.
The scam is they will "Expand" the qualifier to include even more teams from LI region because the other regions have already caught on and have bailed out.. Ring the cash register, pack the tents, circus is over after 2020 WSYL. Im with the guy above. There are better things to do. Hopefully the "Club Teams" here realize they are getting milked and in turn milk the parents The kids would be just as happy going bowling ON LONG ISLAND! If your goal for your 12 yr old is to go to Denver then God Bless but in answer to the post above, definitely a waste of time and money. The real victory would be qualifying and then respectfully telling Body by Jake "No Thanks"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any surprises yesterday? Who looked good and who didn't? (let's try to be serious here...no obnoxious comments). CoachC, Rush, Force and Igloo in the playoffs. Did Igloo redeem themselves from last week? Is Rush the real deal? Force seems to have picked up where they left off last year. Oh, and what happened to Rebels yesterday?

Who is Team Legacy? Is that the Long Island Legacy team??


It’s the Geese Legacy’s B team
Legacy doesn't have a B team in 2025
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any surprises yesterday? Who looked good and who didn't? (let's try to be serious here...no obnoxious comments). CoachC, Rush, Force and Igloo in the playoffs. Did Igloo redeem themselves from last week? Is Rush the real deal? Force seems to have picked up where they left off last year. Oh, and what happened to Rebels yesterday?

Who is Team Legacy? Is that the Long Island Legacy team??


It’s the Geese Legacy’s B team


Legacy doesnt have a B team. There is only 1 team at 2025 level.
And legacy was not at Blatant, so why even bring them up when someone's asking for opinions about the Blatabt tournament.
Stop being complete buttheadhls
What is the consensus on all the teams at Blatant?
team legacy played at the halloween havoc
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?


They always had a second team. It used to be O'Reilly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?


They always had a second team. It used to be O'Reilly.


Ah thanks!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
team legacy played at the halloween havoc


They proved they are a B team by getting handled by the Express A & B teams. Went 0-3..... 32 goals against with scoring only 8 goals. Must be the coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
team legacy played at the halloween havoc


They proved they are a B team by getting handled by the Express A & B teams. Went 0-3..... 32 goals against with scoring only 8 goals. Must be the coaching.


Why do you care? Why dont you let this team be. Your proving yourself to be a complete F . Worry about your own life and issues which clearly is majorly disappointing for you to act this way. Try paying attention to your kid and his team instead of being obsessed with others.
He must be the lost who left legacy for 91, now realizes that 2025 91 isn’t going anywhere and he’s upset that his strategy didn’t work so he’s justifying it by going after legacy . What a lost . Have fun watching the wsyl from home this year you fool
Not sure who "team legacy" is, but it's not Legacy. Legacy has one team in the 2025 age group, and it wasn't at Halloween Havoc. As for the guy(s) still holding some sort of immature grudge against the organization, here: point and show us on this doll where Legacy hurt you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure who "team legacy" is, but it's not Legacy. Legacy has one team in the 2025 age group, and it wasn't at Halloween Havoc. As for the guy(s) still holding some sort of immature grudge against the organization, here: point and show us on this doll where Legacy hurt you.


You are correct. They were not at Halloween Havoc. You can look at Legacy's website. The 2025 Legacy Titans (formally called the Geese) were at the Scarecrow tournament in Massachusetts. And although they won one and list 2, the games they lost were to 3d New England Red (who you will see this weekend at Tristar in the AA bracket) and Laxachusetts Green. Both of these teams are very good.
Is 2025 Legacy a shadow of what it used to be? Has the Legacy organisation not invested to provide the support to this team after it imploded a few years ago? Yes both seem to be true. But I admire the loyalty that the Coach and kids who stayed have for their team. And anyone ridiculing them should be ashamed of themselves. And they need to reflect on what sort of sportsmanship and sense if moral character they are teaching their son.
Ha Ha, point to the doll that's great
i would like to see the rebels play the gold R U S H, they seem to keep missing each other on the schedule. wonder why
Rebels and Gold R$sh Scrimmaged couple weeks ago
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i would like to see the rebels play the gold R U S H, they seem to keep missing each other on the schedule. wonder why

Is there a conspiracy?
Rebs beat RUpoop at a scrimmage a few weeks back. Both decent teams.
Conspiracy? what does that even mean? makes zero sense. They are avoiding each other? Bro, this is 7th grade lax...I dont think anyone cares as much as you do
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conspiracy? what does that even mean? makes zero sense. They are avoiding each other? Bro, this is 7th grade lax...I dont think anyone cares as much as you do

The conspiracy comment was dripping with sarcasm.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.
As someone said above, this is individual development time. Your son's team isn't being recruited, he is. Standing on the sidelines watching his team's top 14 players win game after game isn't going to gain him visibility or improve his game skills. I can see the living room conversation with the college coach already: "Here's a picture of my son on the sidelines. Here's another one of him on the sidelines, but you can see he's holding the stick in his left hand. And here he is on he sidelines pointing to the open man. You've heard of Johnny X, the top scorer, right? Well my son often passes him the ball in practice. Did I mention already that he's been in 8 tournaments and won 7?"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As someone said above, this is individual development time. Your son's team isn't being recruited, he is. Standing on the sidelines watching his team's top 14 players win game after game isn't going to gain him visibility or improve his game skills. I can see the living room conversation with the college coach already: "Here's a picture of my son on the sidelines. Here's another one of him on the sidelines, but you can see he's holding the stick in his left hand. And here he is on he sidelines pointing to the open man. You've heard of Johnny X, the top scorer, right? Well my son often passes him the ball in practice. Did I mention already that he's been in 8 tournaments and won 7?"


This is no different than what 91 did as well. There were plenty of kids holding down the bench. Even now with their low numbers, the mule will only play 15 at most.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As someone said above, this is individual development time. Your son's team isn't being recruited, he is. Standing on the sidelines watching his team's top 14 players win game after game isn't going to gain him visibility or improve his game skills. I can see the living room conversation with the college coach already: "Here's a picture of my son on the sidelines. Here's another one of him on the sidelines, but you can see he's holding the stick in his left hand. And here he is on he sidelines pointing to the open man. You've heard of Johnny X, the top scorer, right? Well my son often passes him the ball in practice. Did I mention already that he's been in 8 tournaments and won 7?"


"He won 7 out of 8 tournaments, huh? What happened in the one loss?"
"He played"
Oh wise one... Why will it be a disaster?
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.


Thats too funny! You had ne until you said everyone plays during the tournament.
I bet your the kid who used to be on legacy, jumped mid ship to 91, and now is at express, at least temporarily.
Noobe needs to be on Express to know how they operate. Everyone can see at the tournaments. And lots if kids dont play. Stop shoveling garbage for brownie points.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.


WAIT TIL SPRING! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW.
Absolutely incorrect. I know exactly who the person is that is being mentioned here , he is with 91 and so are both of his kids . Left legacy , and I could almost gaurantee you he is the one on here bashing legacy . That's what he does . Calls his kids studs and claims spallina begged for them to go to 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.


WAIT TIL SPRING! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW.


Says the Regulator parent.
Wrong again fool
Nope he is still on 91, both boys!!! Nobody from 91 went to Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope he is still on 91, both boys!!! Nobody from 91 went to Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This all sounds like the stunad who left legacy for 91 with both of his kids that he calls " studs". He also claims that spallina begged for him to bring his kids to 91. Lol., What a lost . Go get a life instead of talking about how your kids are studs to everyone you see and how people beg for them to play on their teams .


I dont think they are with 91 anymore. I think 1 may be with express.



So you are saying all the kids who came over from legacy to 91 (not just one parent) are still with 91?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.


WAIT TIL SPRING! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW.


Says the Regulator parent.


Why the Regulator parent?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know everyone like to bash Express because their coach and numbers, but I’m a first year parent and love it. We practice a lot, and they are the best practices I’ve seen, and we’ve been to other top clubs. We’re also in every available tournament. 91 hardly played in any, but we’re playing just about every weekend, as well as practices. I honestly couldn’t ask for more. Some kids play more thank others, but everyone plays during the tournament. That’s just the way it goes.


WAIT TIL SPRING! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW.


Says the Regulator parent.


Why the Regulator parent?


A few kids who didn't play went over to Regulators this year.
NOT A REGULATOR PARENT. EVERYOONE KNOWS
Because he's a stunad with no facts . Just a fool that spews garbage, what else would you expect from a non intelligent 91 dad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because he's a stunad with no facts . Just a fool that spews garbage, what else would you expect from a non intelligent 91 dad


What are you responding to?
Of the 5 kids who left Legacy for 91, only 2 remain. The other former Legacy players left 91 this year for Express or Regulators. That's a fact. 91 lost others this year and last year that were not from Legacy but had started travel with 91. Some of them didn't play much or at all. Some of them did play but weren't happy with the coaching and/or club.
The Rebels put World Series of lacrosse in Denver on their schedule, you can just sign up?
For the person who knows how many kids are left on 91, the question was " who keeps bashing legacy" . My answer was I have a feeling I know exactly who it is and they're still at 91. So if there are only two kids left there then you do the math and take your pick . I could almost gaurantee it's the guy with two kids who left legacy a few years back and refers to his kids as " studs". Also said spallina begged for his " studs " to come to 91. Lol. That was the answer to the legacy bashing question .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Rebels put World Series of lacrosse in Denver on their schedule, you can just sign up?


No. They like to pretend they will make it at the qualifier.
Nobody can just sign up, you have qualifying tournament in April. If a team qualifies they have the option to go to Denver.
By the way, anybody know why 91 AA 2025 is not going to tri star. My guess is the bracket was intimidating? Or is it because it's not a dynamic sports owned tournament. Sad.
Rebels have just as good a shot as anyone else not named "Express." The real question is: which group of parents will decide it's worth spending thousands of dollars to leave Long Island in the summer to travel to Denver and lose by double digits to a team you've already lost to multiple times in Huntington, Uniondale, and Old Westbury?
Pretty Ballsy move. Maybe they will show up this weeked at Tristar. Either way, it doesnt matter . I heard they expanded this region to "anyone who will write a check and drink the KoolAide"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody can just sign up, you have qualifying tournament in April. If a team qualifies they have the option to go to Denver.


I understand it’s an unbelievable experience, and I will be watching. But you have to the judge if it’s worth it from individual standpoint. Not being a naysayer. But the decision tree is different based on which team your son is on. Honestly, and I know this frustrates people. If my son’s was not in a position to make a deep run at the tourney, as currently constructed, I would ask the club to find age eligible players from the 2024s. I feel if you are willing to make the investment in the trip, the club is obligated to use the rules and put the best team out there. I know what about the kids that get left off or lose playing time. This is an isolated event and has different rules. And my son and family are not going and have no plans to go.
91 will be in Delaware
Find age eligible players? Stop. How about save the money and enter 3 more local tournaments, And still save $5K!!! The kids get better by playing, not flying. The real tournament is the qualifiers. Hopefully they are selling t shirts there. Id rather spend $20 than $5000
Legacy bashing not from anyone that left for 91. Everyone still talks and won't be surprised if some try to get back now with Zummo and the Taz staff running the team. Bashers are the ones that left after and are upset no one stopped them from leaving

Express parent- Its Fall. CoachC is a salesmen. Once the checks all clear the same 14 will play come June. Sad the opposing team parents all know their names because that is all CoachC yells . Sure he will remember your kid when it comes to recruiting years....

World Series is up to 7 or 8 northeast teams this year.It is in a park not the stadium. If your team is going to make it not based on the strength of the 2025's great. If you are paying $10k just to watch 8th graders play over your kid you are warped and forget why your kid is supposed to be playing sports.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will be in Delaware


Why only 1 fall tournament?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy bashing not from anyone that left for 91. Everyone still talks and won't be surprised if some try to get back now with Zummo and the Taz staff running the team. Bashers are the ones that left after and are upset no one stopped them from leaving

Express parent- Its Fall. CoachC is a salesmen. Once the checks all clear the same 14 will play come June. Sad the opposing team parents all know their names because that is all CoachC yells . Sure he will remember your kid when it comes to recruiting years....

World Series is up to 7 or 8 northeast teams this year.It is in a park not the stadium. If your team is going to make it not based on the strength of the 2025's great. If you are paying $10k just to watch 8th graders play over your kid you are warped and forget why your kid is supposed to be playing sports.


Your wife must detest you!
Dont know. They do a winter box team too. Maybe less is more
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know. They do a winter box team too. Maybe less is more


They always did a winter box team. You pay extra for that.
Are they adding an extra tournament in the spring?
How many tourneys were the players promised?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy bashing not from anyone that left for 91. Everyone still talks and won't be surprised if some try to get back now with Zummo and the Taz staff running the team. Bashers are the ones that left after and are upset no one stopped them from leaving

Express parent- Its Fall. CoachC is a salesmen. Once the checks all clear the same 14 will play come June. Sad the opposing team parents all know their names because that is all CoachC yells . Sure he will remember your kid when it comes to recruiting years....

World Series is up to 7 or 8 northeast teams this year.It is in a park not the stadium. If your team is going to make it not based on the strength of the 2025's great. If you are paying $10k just to watch 8th graders play over your kid you are warped and forget why your kid is supposed to be playing sports.


Has 2025 Legacy changed coaches? Where is the old coach who was with them for years?
Legacy apparently just woke up after being asleep at the 2025 team's wheel for the past three years, first letting the crazy parents who left for 91 run the team, then letting others leave without a fight to go to lesser programs. If it's true that Zummo and the Taz staff are now running the 2025 team, that's a huge change in the right direction, as that Taz team is to 2024 what Express is to 2025. If that change happened two years ago, you might see a very different 2025 landscape. Does anyone know what happened to the prior coach?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will be in Delaware


Different weekend. Delaware is in November.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know. They do a winter box team too. Maybe less is more


They always did a winter box team. You pay extra for that.
Are they adding an extra tournament in the spring?
How many tourneys were the players promised?


Coaches are going to watch their kids play fall ball and then spring regular season. They have no time for a youth team.
91 dad, what tourney in Delaware ? Just curious , do you see any
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, anybody know why 91 AA 2025 is not going to tri star. My guess is the bracket was intimidating? Or is it because it's not a dynamic sports owned tournament. Sad.

They stopped playing fall tournaments because the parents are lunatics. A few years ago they played and lost a bunch and the parents were losing their minds. The mule had to come in and take it over before everyone jumped ship. Once he did, he stopped playing multiple fall tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy bashing not from anyone that left for 91. Everyone still talks and won't be surprised if some try to get back now with Zummo and the Taz staff running the team. Bashers are the ones that left after and are upset no one stopped them from leaving

Express parent- Its Fall. CoachC is a salesmen. Once the checks all clear the same 14 will play come June. Sad the opposing team parents all know their names because that is all CoachC yells . Sure he will remember your kid when it comes to recruiting years....

World Series is up to 7 or 8 northeast teams this year.It is in a park not the stadium. If your team is going to make it not based on the strength of the 2025's great. If you are paying $10k just to watch 8th graders play over your kid you are warped and forget why your kid is supposed to be playing sports.


Has 2025 Legacy changed coaches? Where is the old coach who was with them for years?


The former head coach is listed at S2S. And he is a fantastic coach. Don’t know the details and don’t care, just a shame what happened to the Geese. They were the best team just two years ago and now they are struggling to compete with the top teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
By the way, anybody know why 91 AA 2025 is not going to tri star. My guess is the bracket was intimidating? Or is it because it's not a dynamic sports owned tournament. Sad.

They stopped playing fall tournaments because the parents are lunatics. A few years ago they played and lost a bunch and the parents were losing their minds. The mule had to come in and take it over before everyone jumped ship. Once he did, he stopped playing multiple fall tourneys.


Not true. They usually play 2. Although they do tend to the mylacrosse.com tournaments and NFL tournaments since Dynamic makes money on those.
Its unusual for them to do only 1 tournament.
The one they are playing in Deleware, North American Fall Invite, is a competitive tournament though.
Sounds about right with 91 2025 , that is 91's style . They don't play in tournaments they don't feel they can win or any tournaments that they don't own which they also rig the schedules so they can win easily. What a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know. They do a winter box team too. Maybe less is more


They always did a winter box team. You pay extra for that.
Are they adding an extra tournament in the spring?
How many tourneys were the players promised?


Coaches are going to watch their kids play fall ball and then spring regular season. They have no time for a youth team.


Why? Only one coaches kid plays. The other one can get sent pictures from the bench. Great view of the field.
Is CoachC's Express team going to North American Fall Invite in Deleware this year? I am pretty sure they went last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds about right with 91 2025 , that is 91's style . They don't play in tournaments they don't feel they can win or any tournaments that they don't own which they also rig the schedules so they can win easily. What a joke


They usually go to their own tournaments. But the North American Fall Invite is not a mylacrosse.com or nlf tourney. So thet cant rig it. And it generally is a very competitive tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds about right with 91 2025 , that is 91's style . They don't play in tournaments they don't feel they can win or any tournaments that they don't own which they also rig the schedules so they can win easily. What a joke


They usually go to their own tournaments. But the North American Fall Invite is not a mylacrosse.com or nlf tourney. So thet cant rig it. And it generally is a very competitive tournament.


Theyre dodging Express until the parents make their last payment. 91 can’t afford any mid year defections.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is CoachC's Express team going to North American Fall Invite in Deleware this year? I am pretty sure they went last year.


If there is a tourney they are traveling. Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team. Queue all the negative comments about rosters, playing time, money grab, blah, blah. Pipe down, nobody needs the advice from online self proclaimed lacrosse travel pundits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds about right with 91 2025 , that is 91's style . They don't play in tournaments they don't feel they can win or any tournaments that they don't own which they also rig the schedules so they can win easily. What a joke


They usually go to their own tournaments. But the North American Fall Invite is not a mylacrosse.com or nlf tourney. So thet cant rig it. And it generally is a very competitive tournament.


Theyre dodging Express until the parents make their last payment. 91 can’t afford any mid year defections.


That’s just a good business decision. Can’t blame them.
It's all understood if it's a good business decision but they need to keep their mouths shut about being the best etc....when they don't play any good competition. Especially the dad's, when you know that they avoid good competition you lose all say in terms of boasting like the do . They do it for every year too, 91 plays in their weak tournaments then pound their chests with their new t shirts with their fingers held up high saying theyre number one , lol.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all understood if it's a good business decision but they need to keep their mouths shut about being the best etc....when they don't play any good competition. Especially the dad's, when you know that they avoid good competition you lose all say in terms of boasting like the do . They do it for every year too, 91 plays in their weak tournaments then pound their chests with their new t shirts with their fingers held up high saying theyre number one , lol.


91 is cookin up a secret sauce to win it all so they can’t play anybody or it won’t be a secret ... ssshh it’s a secret

Now cut the check.
"Queue all the negative comments..." Queue? apparently we have someone from the Express Scrabble team perusing (16 points) the board. .... "Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team" - (I'm Coach Channenwoodchukwood (58 points) and I approve this message.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all understood if it's a good business decision but they need to keep their mouths shut about being the best etc....when they don't play any good competition. Especially the dad's, when you know that they avoid good competition you lose all say in terms of boasting like the do . They do it for every year too, 91 plays in their weak tournaments then pound their chests with their new t shirts with their fingers held up high saying theyre number one , lol.


91 is cookin up a secret sauce to win it all so they can’t play anybody or it won’t be a secret ... ssshh it’s a secret

Now cut the check.


North American Fall Invite last year had all if the toughest teams plus Cgabnys team was there as well. Not sure what they would be dodging if they are doing that tournament.
Honestly surprised they are not doing a warm up tournament to that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all understood if it's a good business decision but they need to keep their mouths shut about being the best etc....when they don't play any good competition. Especially the dad's, when you know that they avoid good competition you lose all say in terms of boasting like the do . They do it for every year too, 91 plays in their weak tournaments then pound their chests with their new t shirts with their fingers held up high saying theyre number one , lol.


They won one tournaments last year. They're still wearing t-shirts from 4th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Queue all the negative comments..." Queue? apparently we have someone from the Express Scrabble team perusing (16 points) the board. .... "Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team" - (I'm Coach Channenwoodchukwood (58 points) and I approve this message.)


And to be clear, the right word in that context should have been cue, not queue
Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.


How come Millon Force is overlooked? They had a good Blatant showing - played Rebels to a tie. Check out their pricing. Half the price of some clubs. Rebels practice 3X a week and Force practices 3X in the Fall. Seems like the Rebels kids are wasting their time. Imagine if Force practiced more? Could be the best club on Long Island.
I just can’t believe there is actually a person out there, who has this much knowledge on 12 year old boys Long Island club lacrosse.
I can speak from experience, my oldest plays in college. His team was average at best 4th,5th,6th,7th grade. Teams records mean zero. Enjoying the experience and improving means everything. You people arguing over which team is better, sound so ignorant. If you only knew.
One guy earlier was writing a team was skipping tournaments because it’s good for business. What planet are you from. It’s October, weather is perfect, kids who are 12 want to play lacrosse against their friends on the other teams. They can’t play because it hurts the clubs business. Do you even hear yourselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.



Lol, thet sumsss it uppp
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t believe there is actually a person out there, who has this much knowledge on 12 year old boys Long Island club lacrosse.
I can speak from experience, my oldest plays in college. His team was average at best 4th,5th,6th,7th grade. Teams records mean zero. Enjoying the experience and improving means everything. You people arguing over which team is better, sound so ignorant. If you only knew.
One guy earlier was writing a team was skipping tournaments because it’s good for business. What planet are you from. It’s October, weather is perfect, kids who are 12 want to play lacrosse against their friends on the other teams. They can’t play because it hurts the clubs business. Do you even hear yourselves.


I think someone misses 6th grade lacrosse and a still a little upset that his son wasnt on a good team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.


How come Millon Force is overlooked? They had a good Blatant showing - played Rebels to a tie. Check out their pricing. Half the price of some clubs. Rebels practice 3X a week and Force practices 3X in the Fall. Seems like the Rebels kids are wasting their time. Imagine if Force practiced more? Could be the best club on Long Island.


Force Triolo 2025 is a very good team. I would put them in that tier below 91. They'll play competitively and beat just about anyone outside of Express and 91.

However, Force as a club leaves much to be desired.
Yes, they are one of the cheaper clubs out there but to your point, you get very little for that money.

Can't say they are one of the best clubs when they are a doormat in other age groups. Just my opinion
These posts are so long and boring I forgot what the argument was even about! get back to the insults for God sake!
"People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them"

Nope.
Maybe you shouldn’t think so much.
Originally Posted by cltlax
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Queue all the negative comments..." Queue? apparently we have someone from the Express Scrabble team perusing (16 points) the board. .... "Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team" - (I'm Coach Channenwoodchukwood (58 points) and I approve this message.)


And to be clear, the right word in that context should have been cue, not queue


Okay thanks for showing us that the poster must be dense and you are smart. Did that satisfy your ego
Prime Time just announced a tryout for all kids born after September 1st 2006 and love within 100 miles of their location. Kudos to them, they get it. Put a team together to win the tourney.
Where is prime time located
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prime Time just announced a tryout for all kids born after September 1st 2006 and love within 100 miles of their location. Kudos to them, they get it. Put a team together to win the tourney.


They do every year and nothing wrong with that. It's not at all against any rules
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prime Time just announced a tryout for all kids born after September 1st 2006 and love within 100 miles of their location. Kudos to them, they get it. Put a team together to win the tourney.


They do every year and nothing wrong with that. It's not at all against any rules


Age based tourney and I love it. Laugh at all stunads who say it’s cheating somehow. It’s the only tourney that I know of that actually requires verification.
"And win the tourney"? Dude, these folks all need to get a life. Win or lose "the tourney" their kids will still be driving a mail truck, going to med school, inventing something or doing absolutely nothing. The one thing they will not be doing is playing lacrosse. WAKE UP! Anyone that "gets it" would qualify, respectfully decline, take their team to an Adventure park and make a donation to a charity. The kids will remember that. They will not remember a trip to "The Tourney" and if they do it will be because of the mountain view and the fact they missed a week of summer vacation with their friends to try and win a tee shirt that says "Denver Champs" on the front and "My parents wanted this more than me" on the back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prime Time just announced a tryout for all kids born after September 1st 2006 and love within 100 miles of their location. Kudos to them, they get it. Put a team together to win the tourney.


They do every year and nothing wrong with that. It's not at all against any rules


Age based tourney and I love it. Laugh at all stunads who say it’s cheating somehow. It’s the only tourney that I know of that actually requires verification.


This is the direction that this tourney is going. There is nothing wrong with what they are doing at all; however, the team they put together must play in tournaments together. Do they play in 2025 or 2024 tournaments? Thats the real question.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Prime Time just announced a tryout for all kids born after September 1st 2006 and love within 100 miles of their location. Kudos to them, they get it. Put a team together to win the tourney.


They do every year and nothing wrong with that. It's not at all against any rules


Age based tourney and I love it. Laugh at all stunads who say it’s cheating somehow. It’s the only tourney that I know of that actually requires verification.


It's not cheating, it's just not really the point of the tourney. It was supposed to be a club championship, now it's just a regional all-star team championship. If that's what you're looking for, have at it.
That’s exactly it. The WSYL is special when a group of 22,25 kids who play on the same team accomplish that goal. It’s not cheating with age, that’s correct. No need to keep writing the same thing. I’ll say it again, it’s not cheating with age. The topic is, like the other guy just wrote, it’s becoming patching groups together to try and win. 3 kids from this team switch teams in March, this kid is older, not on our team, but let’s grab him in June to play in July. This kid has a cousin in Connecticut but he can play with our team in July as well. Let’s grab this kid, let’s grab that kid. It’s not cheating, but it’s not really special to win like that. I’d rather lose and compete hard with our guys, then win like that. A competitive loss is more rewarding then a trashy win. That’s how I see it.
The WSYL verifies addresses as well. You have to live in a current mileage range of the club you are playing for. You also can’t change your team after qualifying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The WSYL verifies addresses as well. You have to live in a current mileage range of the club you are playing for. You also can’t change your team after qualifying.


100 miles!!
What "sane" person is signing their kid up for any club on a consistent basis that is more than 30 miles from home?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That’s exactly it. The WSYL is special when a group of 22,25 kids who play on the same team accomplish that goal. It’s not cheating with age, that’s correct. No need to keep writing the same thing. I’ll say it again, it’s not cheating with age. The topic is, like the other guy just wrote, it’s becoming patching groups together to try and win. 3 kids from this team switch teams in March, this kid is older, not on our team, but let’s grab him in June to play in July. This kid has a cousin in Connecticut but he can play with our team in July as well. Let’s grab this kid, let’s grab that kid. It’s not cheating, but it’s not really special to win like that. I’d rather lose and compete hard with our guys, then win like that. A competitive loss is more rewarding then a trashy win. That’s how I see it.


So maybe a 100 miles is a lot. But the little league WS, which this is likely modeled after, does the same thing. Each kid selected is from a district. They are not a travel team. I think the districts are smaller than 100 miles, but the same premise.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That’s exactly it. The WSYL is special when a group of 22,25 kids who play on the same team accomplish that goal. It’s not cheating with age, that’s correct. No need to keep writing the same thing. I’ll say it again, it’s not cheating with age. The topic is, like the other guy just wrote, it’s becoming patching groups together to try and win. 3 kids from this team switch teams in March, this kid is older, not on our team, but let’s grab him in June to play in July. This kid has a cousin in Connecticut but he can play with our team in July as well. Let’s grab this kid, let’s grab that kid. It’s not cheating, but it’s not really special to win like that. I’d rather lose and compete hard with our guys, then win like that. A competitive loss is more rewarding then a trashy win. That’s how I see it.


That's a pretty hefty nut to spend to leave LI on the 4th of July (arguably the nicest weather week of the year) to play in a tournament without a chance of winning because the team dynamics have been changed, loopholed and bastardized beyond the spirit of the competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.


How come Millon Force is overlooked? They had a good Blatant showing - played Rebels to a tie. Check out their pricing. Half the price of some clubs. Rebels practice 3X a week and Force practices 3X in the Fall. Seems like the Rebels kids are wasting their time. Imagine if Force practiced more? Could be the best club on Long Island.

The rebels do not practice 3x a week and if they did, what's wrong with practicing? Why are they wasting their time? Imagine if you weren't an stunad? Best club on Long Island? You are delusional. That being said, Millon Force is a pretty good team.
Is everyone braindead when it comes to WSYL? The only thing they are validating is that your check cleared. You could live on Mars, 1 million miles away. As long as your intergalactic currency is valid they arent checking ship with a t! Stop making a mockery of yourself as I really should be working rather than exposing you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That’s exactly it. The WSYL is special when a group of 22,25 kids who play on the same team accomplish that goal. It’s not cheating with age, that’s correct. No need to keep writing the same thing. I’ll say it again, it’s not cheating with age. The topic is, like the other guy just wrote, it’s becoming patching groups together to try and win. 3 kids from this team switch teams in March, this kid is older, not on our team, but let’s grab him in June to play in July. This kid has a cousin in Connecticut but he can play with our team in July as well. Let’s grab this kid, let’s grab that kid. It’s not cheating, but it’s not really special to win like that. I’d rather lose and compete hard with our guys, then win like that. A competitive loss is more rewarding then a trashy win. That’s how I see it.


That's a pretty hefty nut to spend to leave LI on the 4th of July (arguably the nicest weather week of the year) to play in a tournament without a chance of winning because the team dynamics have been changed, loopholed and bastardized beyond the spirit of the competition.


It is. Especially when you consider that 80% of the teams at the tournament would be considered B/C teams on LI. With the exception of the semis and finals, the games are generally blowouts for the LI teams. Which I guess is good if your kid is a non-starter. He'll get plenty of playing time. Until, of course the finals that are televised, then the starters are ridden hard and you'll have to explain to everybody why your son didn't touch the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The WSYL verifies addresses as well. You have to live in a current mileage range of the club you are playing for. You also can’t change your team after qualifying.


100 miles!!
What "sane" person is signing their kid up for any club on a consistent basis that is more than 30 miles from home?

The kid from Rebels!
This thread was more fun when everyone was bashing Igloo. I am curious if there are multiple people using the word "stunad" or only one guy. I'm also curious how many moms are on this site vs dads. Most assume it's all dads but I've found that many moms are equally as nuts, especially jumping in to defend their kid's team. I wonder if "stunad" guy is really "stunad" gal?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was more fun when everyone was bashing Igloo. I am curious if there are multiple people using the word "stunad" or only one guy. I'm also curious how many moms are on this site vs dads. Most assume it's all dads but I've found that many moms are equally as nuts, especially jumping in to defend their kid's team. I wonder if "stunad" guy is really "stunad" gal?


For your learning, the forum moderator substitutes the word 'stunad' for any expletives or unsavory comments. But what's unknown is why that word was chosen.
No, Rebels bring in college kids....Did you see the one kid was shaving between games? They also pipe in kids from Indonesian sweat shops to polish those awesome helmets..... And yes, it was fun bashing IGLOO..because those kids really deserve to be bashed. Being a 12 year old that likes to play lacrosse is undoubtedly grounds for bashing. Why is everyone down on Igloo and Rebels? Speaking of shaving, I bet some of the Mom's I have seen at these games can grow thicker beards than 1/2 of the coaches that are out there screaming "Wheels"... Which by the way may be the densest saying out there. If you are yelling that please also wear a tee shirt that says "Forgive me, I'M A lost". Next topic..............
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was more fun when everyone was bashing Igloo. I am curious if there are multiple people using the word "stunad" or only one guy. I'm also curious how many moms are on this site vs dads. Most assume it's all dads but I've found that many moms are equally as nuts, especially jumping in to defend their kid's team. I wonder if "stunad" guy is really "stunad" gal?


Admins replace all derogatory terms with "stunad". Kind of silly
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The WSYL verifies addresses as well. You have to live in a current mileage range of the club you are playing for. You also can’t change your team after qualifying.


100 miles!!
What "sane" person is signing their kid up for any club on a consistent basis that is more than 30 miles from home?


Stud goalie in NJ gets a call to play with LIE. He is 98 miles away.
Fiore went to shore 2 shore to be closer to his home as his daughter is planning to start playing with her friends from the area. Fiore still working with legacy but not coaching.
That was not legacy lacrosse from LI. The legacy 2025 team was in Massachusetts playing in NH tomahawks tournament.
Legacy with Zummo coaching will be a spot a lot of kids tryout for next year. My son was part of legacy for years and if he coached sooner this team would be contending for a top spot. But after this WS year and all the fallout I bet legacy bounces back in the next year or 2. As much as my kid wants to go to Denver I know the team I’m gonna be tracking....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fiore went to shore 2 shore to be closer to his home as his daughter is planning to start playing with her friends from the area. Fiore still working with legacy but not coaching.


Wow! Something tells me it's not that simple.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy with Zummo coaching will be a spot a lot of kids tryout for next year. My son was part of legacy for years and if he coached sooner this team would be contending for a top spot. But after this WS year and all the fallout I bet legacy bounces back in the next year or 2. As much as my kid wants to go to Denver I know the team I’m gonna be tracking....
I agree there. Tommy Zummo is what lacrosse should be about. He is their for all the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy with Zummo coaching will be a spot a lot of kids tryout for next year. My son was part of legacy for years and if he coached sooner this team would be contending for a top spot. But after this WS year and all the fallout I bet legacy bounces back in the next year or 2. As much as my kid wants to go to Denver I know the team I’m gonna be tracking....
I agree there. Tommy Zummo is what lacrosse should be about. He is their for all the kids.

He wasn’t there for this group of kids.

Maybe we should note the “best” team has had 1 set of coaches Since the start and what used to be the teams on that level have had a gaggle of different staffs.
Sometimes things are that simple....
Teams playing clearly 8th graders on their 2025 teams in tourbaments that the rules say are grade based us oyt if control. Its ruining this sport.
if you think Coach C from express is in it for the kids then you have no idea about travel lacrosse
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if you think Coach C from express is in it for the kids then you have no idea about travel lacrosse


Its not just CoachC playing 8th graders. Its multiple teams doing it. Its so obvious. Just ruining the sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if you think Coach C from express is in it for the kids then you have no idea about travel lacrosse


Don’t believe he is in it for the kids much at all, but winning is good for business and coaching continuity seems good for the kids and the wallet !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams playing clearly 8th graders on their 2025 teams in tourbaments that the rules say are grade based us oyt if control. Its ruining this sport.


Which teams? And is it factual or just because no 7th grader can be big and fast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams playing clearly 8th graders on their 2025 teams in tourbaments that the rules say are grade based us oyt if control. Its ruining this sport.


Which teams? And is it factual or just because no 7th grader can be big and fast.


For example, R$sh and Rebels both. And its factual.
I get they want them for Denver. But fact is sport is grade based and not age based for these tournaments. So its cheating!!
This is the only sport that can’t get it right. In July it’s birthday rules with WSYL. Then other tournaments it’s grade rules. In fact in some cases the 7th grader is older than the 8th grader. Think of how insane that is, the older 7th grader can play, but the younger 8th grader can’t play. Why can’t this sport just once and for all make it birthdate. Every sport does it birthdate. Why is this such a hard concept with lax. It would also be nice to not have this same conversation over and over as well.
We’re getting ready for WSYL and everything I’m seeing is age based . Birthdays are 9/1/2006 and after. I will say the holdbacks are not quiet as evident on the field anymore, as the on-age kids are catching up fast!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams playing clearly 8th graders on their 2025 teams in tourbaments that the rules say are grade based us oyt if control. Its ruining this sport.


Which teams? And is it factual or just because no 7th grader can be big and fast.


For example, R$sh and Rebels both. And its factual.
I get they want them for Denver. But fact is sport is grade based and not age based for these tournaments. So its cheating!!


So if it’s factual, why isn’t anything done. Stating it here does nothing. The coach should be called out and if you are a parent playing an non grade appropriate kid, you are teaching a horrible life lesson. This conversation has been endless, but until somebody calls somebody out, it won’t change. And I don’t feel sorry for the kid, because the parent put that kid in that situation. This new blending of WSYL age and grade is ridiculous sounding and seems like a justification to some.
Express North Primetime and NE Red Full of 8th Graders
I believe Director allowed this to be age Based(But 2025 was only grade)
91 Hornets, what happened to that team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North Primetime and NE Red Full of 8th Graders
I believe Director allowed this to be age Based(But 2025 was only grade)


So where in the rules does it allow that? Or how were the teans advised of this allowance?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North Primetime and NE Red Full of 8th Graders
I believe Director allowed this to be age Based(But 2025 was only grade)
. How can they enforce when Chan’s team has a non age eligible 2024 playing too? A joke!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


They looked like they had completely different roster vs last year’s team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


They looked like they had completely different roster vs last year’s team.


Probably. Most people have probably bailed. Those B team rosters turn over constantly. People get tired of paying for nothing from the big organisations.
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment


These B teams should all be less than $2k.... especially Hornets since they only enter their own tournaments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


They looked like they had completely different roster vs last year’s team.


Probably. Most people have probably bailed. Those B team rosters turn over constantly. People get tired of paying for nothing from the big organisations.


The problem is some B team families are 100% committed and some aren’t. And people go searching for more serious situations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment


These B teams should all be less than $2k.... especially Hornets since they only enter their own tournaments


That Hornets is not good. They had match ups today that they should have been competitive with and went 0-3.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment


These B teams should all be less than $2k.... especially Hornets since they only enter their own tournaments


That Hornets is not good. They had match ups today that they should have been competitive with and went 0-3.


Going to organisations where they have A and B teams, where you are on the B team is a mistake. 99% of the time the second team is not good.
Go to a different club team where their top team happens to be a B team or low A team. It will be much better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment



So is Outlaws and Force.
Teams posted for the North American Lacrosse Tournament, looks like some good competition!! 91 deciding to show up, wonder what studs from WolfPack will be joining them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment



So is Outlaws and Force.


Force nowhere close to $3500. Maybe for 2 kids. LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment



So is Outlaws and Force.


Force nowhere close to $3500. Maybe for 2 kids. LOL


Force is $2200
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?



Did they win something that I missed?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment



So is Outlaws and Force.


Force nowhere close to $3500. Maybe for 2 kids. LOL


Force is $2200


Unfortunately B teams that don’t win have a tough time retaining the roster year over year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment



So is Outlaws and Force.


Force nowhere close to $3500. Maybe for 2 kids. LOL


Force is $2200


Unfortunately B teams that don’t win have a tough time retaining the roster year over year.


Force has 2 teams. Im assuming you are talking about the B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.

Can we get a separate page for B teams? Nobody cares.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.
if you're a good athlete OR you have good stick skills, you can usually make your way onto an A team. if you don't have either yet, you end up on a B team. it's a great place for players new to the sport or waiting to develop physically. by high school you will catch up to everyone else if you put in the effort. have fun, make new friends and don't worry about it.
Couple comments from the Tri State Tourney;
Total BS all the teams weren't notified the tourney was an age based tournament. This has to change for the better of the game.
CoachC winning the Championship (week bracket) but at this point, who cares!
Notable wins:
Force beating Regulators
Express North beating Rush
Regulators beating Express North
Rush ALMOST beating Primetime.
Whats notable is ALL the teams there, except CoachC, are on the same page. Force beat Regulators and then lost to Rebels. PARITY. Now the clubs see what they have to work with over the winter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.

yawn emoji here

nobody cares about the results of the games, except them maybe. the disaster is the way they conduct themselves. you can go ahead and reread the above post now. nothing about wins and losses is mentioned.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.


Which non disaster does your son play for?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats notable is ALL the teams there, except CoachC, are on the same page. Force beat Regulators and then lost to Rebels. PARITY. Now the clubs see what they have to work with over the winter.


Sorry I left out Rebels beating Force by a goal.

BTW, I just heard Regulators and Force were the only teams without 2024's on their rosters. Is that true?
"You play to win the game" Herm Edwards 3:16
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats notable is ALL the teams there, except CoachC, are on the same page. Force beat Regulators and then lost to Rebels. PARITY. Now the clubs see what they have to work with over the winter.


Sorry I left out Rebels beating Force by a goal.

BTW, I just heard Regulators and Force were the only teams without 2024's on their rosters. Is that true?




Regulators has no 2024s. There are 2 2026 players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"You play to win the game" Herm Edwards 3:16


Did you just quote Herm Edwards?! LOLOLOL
They had '23's Does it really matter? Did you see the size of some of these kids? Maybe they should steriod test the milk?
Regulators lost game to Force in the last minute and then beat Express North. New team playing at their first tournament. They should come together nicely.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.


Beating a newly formed Rebels B team, Outlaws and Force B team is nothing to write home about
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats notable is ALL the teams there, except CoachC, are on the same page. Force beat Regulators and then lost to Rebels. PARITY. Now the clubs see what they have to work with over the winter.


Sorry I left out Rebels beating Force by a goal.

BTW, I just heard Regulators and Force were the only teams without 2024's on their rosters. Is that true?




I'm guessing the only reason Rebels beat Force was because they had 2024's on their team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Literally nothing in this post is accurate. Anyone who believes that something like that could happen is just making excuses that their team lost. This is almost comical, except that there actually may be someone new to the sport that believes this imbecile.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Literally nothing in this post is accurate. Anyone who believes that something like that could happen is just making excuses that their team lost. This is almost comical, except that there actually may be someone new to the sport that believes this imbecile.
Express does this all the time. IT is a Fact.. You must work for EXPRESS
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.
With the exception of 1 team (Chan-eee-chuck), all of these teams all look a like but have different smells. "They are who we thought they were".....

Each team has some positives and some negatives and they all have a lot of work to do..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment


These B teams should all be less than $2k.... especially Hornets since they only enter their own tournaments


That Hornets is not good. They had match ups today that they should have been competitive with and went 0-3.

There a 2 or 3 kids on that team that should run for the hills and get themselves on stronger teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.


Beating a newly formed Rebels B team, Outlaws and Force B team is nothing to write home about


This team is all new with the exception of 2-3 kids. They have been together for a total of 5 weeks. Start writing home.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.


Prime Time was loaded with 2024's -- GoldRush is in the pack with the rest. Legacy and probably Igloo shouldn't be anywhere near the list of 4-9.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.


For many, Regulators are a secondary club - Nearly all of the kids on that squad will be playing for other clubs during the club season. Nice in theory, but will only be a cause for headache as the spring/summer season gets rolling
91 will still be the 2nd best team. I dont see any of the teams mentioned above beating them. At least after not what the fall showed.

Of the list above,Rebels looks like it has the most potential. Probably because they played very sloppy and still managed to stay in the games that they didnt win. RUpoop is competitive but has 2 kids (for the complainers checking birth certs, take a look at 2 kids on that squad) that they rely on too much. Force is decent but not built for 3+ games per tourney. Regulators needs more time. Igloo still cant score and are mentally soft, CSH was gutted by Regulators and S2S may have been the least competitive team out there this fall. True Blue will be hit or miss. Win some, lose some.

Trying to rank these teams is like trying to sort the roundest rocks.... Good luck with that!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.


Primetime has so many 2024 players that they have to form a completely different team for WSYL. Pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who or why would someone pay $3,500 to be on the Hornets? It’s a bad investment


These B teams should all be less than $2k.... especially Hornets since they only enter their own tournaments


That Hornets is not good. They had match ups today that they should have been competitive with and went 0-3.

There a 2 or 3 kids on that team that should run for the hills and get themselves on stronger teams.


People will try to look for better situations after the fall or even now. It’s 7th grade and you sorta want to be set with a club for the next few years as these kids move to HS. My advice, try to get invited to a practice, some clubs are receptive and some are not. It’s a free roll to have your son evaluated another coach and for you to evaluate the club. Because if you’re unhappy now, that will not go away as the season progresses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.


Primetime has so many 2024 players that they have to form a completely different team for WSYL. Pathetic.


Just because your kid lost doesn't mean they're older. They're just better. Primetime puts together a WSYL team that is made up of 2025 and 2024 players that fit withing the age restrictions. They do it every year and that team hasn't even been assembled yet. Your kid played 25's.


For many, Regulators are a secondary club - Nearly all of the kids on that squad will be playing for other clubs during the club season. Nice in theory, but will only be a cause for headache as the spring/summer season gets rolling[/quote]

Only part true. The only real conflict is half the kids play for CSH ROAR and since the coach is the same there will never be any conflicts between the two. A few do also play for True Blue, but it's only a handful.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels team scored 7 goals in 3 games, despite being bolstered by a few 2024s. Take out those add-ons, and you get the same picture of that team as you saw last year: nothing to get excited about. GoldRush looks promising, Regulators are spunky. From the last 14 days of tournaments, it looks like

1. Express, and it's not even close

2. Prime Time
3. R$SH GoldRush

4-9 Force, Regulators, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy, S2S - depending on who's doing what that day

Team 91, built on defections from other teams, is afraid of karma coming back and biting it in the rear end, so they've avoided playing anyone this fall to make sure nervous parents don't jump ship by Christmas. Pretty lame. Here's to rooting for R$SH GoldRush, Force, Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, CSH anyone really, beating them. The panic will be enjoyable to watch.


For many, Regulators are a secondary club - Nearly all of the kids on that squad will be playing for other clubs during the club season. Nice in theory, but will only be a cause for headache as the spring/summer season gets rolling


Regarding Regulators, the coach needs to commit to Roar or Regulators, can't do both...not fair to the parents or more importantly the players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express has a second LI team this season, LI Express 2025 Davis?

This is their B team and it will be a disaster, not that it really matters.



Still think its gonna be a disaster?


Absolutely and this weekend confirmed it. Typical Express, they gave themselves the easiest possible schedule since it was their own tournament. They even changed their third game at the 11th hour to play a weaker team. They also brought in multiple players from other "A" organizations even though they had more than enough players. These players were on the field the whole time while the kids who are actually on the team and pay tuition are standing on the sidelines. "B" teams are for development, where kids who were standing on the sidelines of "A" teams go to actually play in the game. So yeah, it's a disaster.


Looking at Tourney Machine looks like they went 3-1. A disaster? If they went 1-3 it's a different story.

yawn emoji here

nobody cares about the results of the games, except them maybe. the disaster is the way they conduct themselves. you can go ahead and reread the above post now. nothing about wins and losses is mentioned.


Disgraceful. If you paid to be on this team and you saw this happen, then you should ask for your money back immediately. Only the parents on this team will know the truth. There's plenty of honest teams out there that would not tolerate this. What message are you sending to the kids?
I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.
no refunds at express the old man already blew all the money on teeth whitener lol
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.


I don't think it is going to be that clear cut to answer.
A lot of the answer will depend on your son and what you are looking to get out of the team.

My advice would be to find a club that has a committed coach (when I say committed, I'm talking a coach that isn't going to cancel practice or just leave practice to an assistant). Also, be honest with how your son would fit in on the team. You want a mix of play time and being challenged. You don't want him to be the best on a team, but also don't want a team where he is the 25th guy (or worse)

Simply put, the best B team would be the one that fits your son's needs best and will help him improve his game.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.


Sounds like one of the B coaches is looking for a compliment...lol.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.
Who are coaches for Turtles. Would say solid B team, but not close to A
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


And you get coupons to spend more money at lax unlimited after you pay your tuition
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.
Empire is a good team that plays in B brackets, plus there’s only one team in this age group
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.


Ultimately Express and 91 are about their top teams and 2nd teams get shafted. I would avoid Express and 91 B teans.
But honestly your better choosing an organisation with one team at that age level if you are looking at B teams.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.


Ultimately Express and 91 are about their top teams and 2nd teams get shafted. I would avoid Express and 91 B teans.
But honestly your better choosing an organisation with one team at that age level if you are looking at B teams.


So that can be true and false. It all depends on the coaching. There is great B team situations and great teams who are a clubs only team, but are B level. Do your research by asking parents on the team and call the coach if you can.
Agreed in 7 years I never heard 1 positive comment about those 2 teams in regards to B team. It’s 23 kids paying 3500 bucks. What you get in return.
Coaches who are always late
Coaches who cancel practice every other week
Coaches who don’t show for tournaments
Substitute coaches showing up at tournaments not knowing anyone’s name.
Teams with 23 kids, having 8 show consistently for practice.
Directors who care not one bit if your team wins or loses, or if your son improves.
But I heard you get a cool bumper sticker
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[quote=Anonymous]I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Ultimately Express and 91 are about their top teams and 2nd teams get shafted. I would avoid Express and 91 B teans.
But honestly your better choosing an organisation with one team at that age level if you are looking at B teams.


So that can be true and false. It all depends on the coaching. There is great B team situations and great teams who are a clubs only team, but are B level. Do your research by asking parents on the team and call the coach if you can.


I agree you should do your research. Ask friends. Definitely call coaches. And ask straight up direct answers. If you put them on the spot sometimes you can see if they give you a straight answer or the run around.
But honestly I would just stay away from Express and 91 B teams. Even if a team did well one year, it wont last. Better players often get absorbed by higher level team or leave. The organisation doesnt care about the team, so even if you get a good coach initially, the coach is fighting a losing battle without support. And they get fed up.
Go to an organisation that has one team at its age level that just happens to be an B team.
So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I specifically stated in my post go to an organisation with one team which is a B team. So that applues to all organisations that have multiple teams. The fact is those organisations only care about theur primary team. You can have a good coach but it wont last. And you dont want to hace to hop around. The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team.
So do all your research, but I would stick to an organisation with one team that hapoens to be a B team.
where do you live?
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.


Agree that these were great B team options but that was before every club had a b team. The landscape has completely changed. More kids playing and have many more options. Also, clubs are using second rate coaches with younger B teams and players don't get development. Just because the kid was a 4 year starter doesnt make him a qualified youth lacrosse coach.
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.


These clubs have completely changed. In the past I agree on 91 there were some decent B teams. Now those B and C teams for those organisations are about an infusion of cash. Nothibg else. And its not a smaller check. Its the same check the A team writes anymore.
And now other teams besides 91 and Express all train year round and have clear laud out fall, wibter, spribg, and summer training with year round tournanents fall, spring, and summer.
Unless you are on the A team in 91 or Express, you are much better going somewhere else.
Everything you said about the other years B teams are true. For whatever reason this year just never seemed to be able to get that highly committed coach. Those other years 2022,2023, a few others, those coaches are top notch. You used the word to describe this year as struggling. Struggling is maybe not winning a lot of games. Coaches not showing, canceling practices all the time, no director support, 80 percent of the team not coming to practice. The term is use is disaster.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.

Yes definitely, there will be plenty of open spots once people start bailing. Especially after what they just pulled at Tristar. Your massive tuition comes with a front row seat to watch his kid play the whole game even though he doesn't pay a dime.
I suggest epic jokers, empire, and turtles. They only have 1 team and are pretty decent. But it also depends on where you live and how far you want to drive for practices
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.


Agree that these were great B team options but that was before every club had a b team. The landscape has completely changed. More kids playing and have many more options. Also, clubs are using second rate coaches with younger B teams and players don't get development. Just because the kid was a 4 year starter doesnt make him a qualified youth lacrosse coach.


I think it’s all great info and a lot these last posts have been honest and respectful. A lot better than reading endless pages about the the WSYL being a money grab, holdbacks ruining the sport, accusatory cheating and name calling. Reality is there more players closer to B/B+ than AA.
"The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team."

And what exactly happened, Mr. Know it All? Interesting you allude to something without actually describing it, which means you really don't know and are just talking out of your carbon-alloy shaft. That Blue Devils team had great coaches (including and especially the head coach) and solid talent, and was fully supported by Legacy. "What happened" is what happens to every team in every organization at some point: whispering begins on the sidelines by juvenile adults, followed by complaining in cliques, which then leads to certain parents deciding to leave convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. Also, it probably didn't help that certain parents from Legacy's A team made spectacles of themselves at a tournament, becoming physically threatening and using profanity in front of the kids when they learned that their A team would not be allowed to play the Blue Devils in a championship (despite it being a "B" tournament) and that the Blue Devils, and not the "A" Geese, would be getting the t-shirts and hats (which my son indifferently tossed in the trash a long time ago). Talk about mortifying. It was awful watching 10 year olds with tears in their eyes begging their parents to "stop", and that pretty much sealed the deal for a bunch of us who left the following year. Not surprisingly, these were the same classy people from West Islip (although one particular vulgar loudmouth was from Sachem) who later left the Geese because, at some point in the past, one of the Legacy coaches cut some of their sons from the town travel team, and of course revenge had to be exacted. If you read this forum, you'll see they're still at it 4 or 5 years after the fact, bashing Legacy and that coach because their emotional boo-boo from West Islip PAL still hasn't healed (that Sachem person is just a bad egg). Sad and pathetic. But no, there's no reason as an organization can't have a good A and B team, as long as you keep the trash where it belongs - off the sidelines and in the bin.
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"The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team."

And what exactly happened, Mr. Know it All? Interesting you allude to something without actually describing it, which means you really don't know and are just talking out of your carbon-alloy shaft. That Blue Devils team had great coaches (including and especially the head coach) and solid talent, and was fully supported by Legacy. "What happened" is what happens to every team in every organization at some point: whispering begins on the sidelines by juvenile adults, followed by complaining in cliques, which then leads to certain parents deciding to leave convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. Also, it probably didn't help that certain parents from Legacy's A team made spectacles of themselves at a tournament, becoming physically threatening and using profanity in front of the kids when they learned that their A team would not be allowed to play the Blue Devils in a championship (despite it being a "B" tournament) and that the Blue Devils, and not the "A" Geese, would be getting the t-shirts and hats (which my son indifferently tossed in the trash a long time ago). Talk about mortifying. It was awful watching 10 year olds with tears in their eyes begging their parents to "stop", and that pretty much sealed the deal for a bunch of us who left the following year. Not surprisingly, these were the same classy people from West Islip (although one particular vulgar loudmouth was from Sachem) who later left the Geese because, at some point in the past, one of the Legacy coaches cut some of their sons from the town travel team, and of course revenge had to be exacted. If you read this forum, you'll see they're still at it 4 or 5 years after the fact, bashing Legacy and that coach because their emotional boo-boo from West Islip PAL still hasn't healed (that Sachem person is just a bad egg). Sad and pathetic. But no, there's no reason as an organization can't have a good A and B team, as long as you keep the trash where it belongs - off the sidelines and in the bin.


It’s hard to argue that parents are not part of the equation. But I like mentioned earlier, there good B teams still. And this is two years ago.
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"The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team."

And what exactly happened, Mr. Know it All? Interesting you allude to something without actually describing it, which means you really don't know and are just talking out of your carbon-alloy shaft. That Blue Devils team had great coaches (including and especially the head coach) and solid talent, and was fully supported by Legacy. "What happened" is what happens to every team in every organization at some point: whispering begins on the sidelines by juvenile adults, followed by complaining in cliques, which then leads to certain parents deciding to leave convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. Also, it probably didn't help that certain parents from Legacy's A team made spectacles of themselves at a tournament, becoming physically threatening and using profanity in front of the kids when they learned that their A team would not be allowed to play the Blue Devils in a championship (despite it being a "B" tournament) and that the Blue Devils, and not the "A" Geese, would be getting the t-shirts and hats (which my son indifferently tossed in the trash a long time ago). Talk about mortifying. It was awful watching 10 year olds with tears in their eyes begging their parents to "stop", and that pretty much sealed the deal for a bunch of us who left the following year. Not surprisingly, these were the same classy people from West Islip (although one particular vulgar loudmouth was from Sachem) who later left the Geese because, at some point in the past, one of the Legacy coaches cut some of their sons from the town travel team, and of course revenge had to be exacted. If you read this forum, you'll see they're still at it 4 or 5 years after the fact, bashing Legacy and that coach because their emotional boo-boo from West Islip PAL still hasn't healed (that Sachem person is just a bad egg). Sad and pathetic. But no, there's no reason as an organization can't have a good A and B team, as long as you keep the trash where it belongs - off the sidelines and in the bin.


If you had read my entire post instead of concentrating on the final sentence you would realise this wasnt an insult to Blue Devils. In fact it was a compliment. It was one of the few possibly only really good B team in an organization where there were multiple teams in 2025 age bracket. And it had really good coaches. However, when everything happened with the Geese, and I agree how badly those parents acted who left, Legacy dissolved the Blue Devils and kept only the Geese to try and save it. I think in the end if they had concentrated as much on mantaining the Blue Devils, they would have bern more successful. But these organizations prioritize there A team over their B team.
Ultimately people who want a B team are better with an organization with only one team in the age bracket.
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.

Yes definitely, there will be plenty of open spots once people start bailing. Especially after what they just pulled at Tristar. Your massive tuition comes with a front row seat to watch his kid play the whole game even though he doesn't pay a dime.


What they pulled at Tri-Star? What do you mean?
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I'm going to try and ask a legitimate question. What are the best B team options? When I say best, I mean it has a coach or coaches that know what they are doing. Most of the kids can catch and throw. Etc.

Turtles played in that B bracket at TriStar. They are really in between the A and B division. Depending on where you live and if your kid can make that team, I would say Turtles.


Find a parent on the team or a friend of a friend and ask them. Or email the coach and see if you get a response. II would start with teams that performed the best at the only two B tourney brackets so far. Blatant and Tri Star. Those finalist in those brackets were Rush B, Rebels B, Express B and Turtles. And all these teams are probably searching for a player or two. People will come behind this post with don’t waste your time, they stink, etc etc. Find out for yourself.


Turtles, LILC, Epic Jokers... any of those are pretty safe
Any these teams are there main teams. Not secondary to another A team.


Definitely Express Davis.

Yes definitely, there will be plenty of open spots once people start bailing. Especially after what they just pulled at Tristar. Your massive tuition comes with a front row seat to watch his kid play the whole game even though he doesn't pay a dime.


What they pulled at Tri-Star? What do you mean?
I know the Force B team is still looking for a few good players...middies I believe.
everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.


Wow. That shows you how little Express thinks about their lower level teams.
When CoachC cheats like that with his A team he brings helmets and uniforns for the kids to wear that are not on the team, but he brought in to play.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.
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"The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team."

And what exactly happened, Mr. Know it All? Interesting you allude to something without actually describing it, which means you really don't know and are just talking out of your carbon-alloy shaft. That Blue Devils team had great coaches (including and especially the head coach) and solid talent, and was fully supported by Legacy. "What happened" is what happens to every team in every organization at some point: whispering begins on the sidelines by juvenile adults, followed by complaining in cliques, which then leads to certain parents deciding to leave convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. Also, it probably didn't help that certain parents from Legacy's A team made spectacles of themselves at a tournament, becoming physically threatening and using profanity in front of the kids when they learned that their A team would not be allowed to play the Blue Devils in a championship (despite it being a "B" tournament) and that the Blue Devils, and not the "A" Geese, would be getting the t-shirts and hats (which my son indifferently tossed in the trash a long time ago). Talk about mortifying. It was awful watching 10 year olds with tears in their eyes begging their parents to "stop", and that pretty much sealed the deal for a bunch of us who left the following year. Not surprisingly, these were the same classy people from West Islip (although one particular vulgar loudmouth was from Sachem) who later left the Geese because, at some point in the past, one of the Legacy coaches cut some of their sons from the town travel team, and of course revenge had to be exacted. If you read this forum, you'll see they're still at it 4 or 5 years after the fact, bashing Legacy and that coach because their emotional boo-boo from West Islip PAL still hasn't healed (that Sachem person is just a bad egg). Sad and pathetic. But no, there's no reason as an organization can't have a good A and B team, as long as you keep the trash where it belongs - off the sidelines and in the bin.


If you had read my entire post instead of concentrating on the final sentence you would realise this wasnt an insult to Blue Devils. In fact it was a compliment. It was one of the few possibly only really good B team in an organization where there were multiple teams in 2025 age bracket. And it had really good coaches. However, when everything happened with the Geese, and I agree how badly those parents acted who left, Legacy dissolved the Blue Devils and kept only the Geese to try and save it. I think in the end if they had concentrated as much on mantaining the Blue Devils, they would have bern more successful. But these organizations prioritize there A team over their B team.
Ultimately people who want a B team are better with an organization with only one team in the age bracket.


I apologize to you for taking your comment the wrong way. But you should know that Legacy didn't dissolve the Blue Devils, the parents left. Legacy would have been more than happy to keep that team going. And why not? They were competitive, winning 2 championships in 2 years. The ironic part is that there are several players from that 2016/17, 2017/18 Legacy Blue Devils "B" team, like my son, who now play for "A" CoachC, R$SH GoldRush, Rebels and Team 91. Legacy should have "promoted" those kids to the Geese once that group of 5 parents left Legacy mid-season to try out for 91 back in the spring of '18. It was pretty foolish - they were labeled as "B" kids as 9 year olds and now they're handing it to the Geese while playing on A squads for other organizations. Maybe they're not the "best of the best", but it looks like the Geese could sure use them now. It's unreal, that that small group of disgruntled parents wound up destroying two teams in the 2025 age group for Legacy. I'm sure Karma will deal with them eventually. But maybe this story has a happy ending - the tide carried out the seaweed, and there are rumors that Legacy brought down the Taz coaching staff to work with the Geese and that they have them practicing with the 2024 team. My son is happy where he is, but I wouldn't automatically rule out a return to Legacy tryouts next year if that were true. There's still a few years of travel lacrosse left, the wheel could turn again.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.


We are all happy on the team. May I suggest at the next tourney feel free to stop by the team tent and ask us all for yourself.
MOST BORING POSTS EVER ZZZZZ WHAT IS YOUR POINT IN 20 WORDS OR LESS?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"The last time there was a decent B team in a multiple team organisation was with Legacy when they had the Blue Devils. And we all know what happened to that team."

And what exactly happened, Mr. Know it All? Interesting you allude to something without actually describing it, which means you really don't know and are just talking out of your carbon-alloy shaft. That Blue Devils team had great coaches (including and especially the head coach) and solid talent, and was fully supported by Legacy. "What happened" is what happens to every team in every organization at some point: whispering begins on the sidelines by juvenile adults, followed by complaining in cliques, which then leads to certain parents deciding to leave convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. Also, it probably didn't help that certain parents from Legacy's A team made spectacles of themselves at a tournament, becoming physically threatening and using profanity in front of the kids when they learned that their A team would not be allowed to play the Blue Devils in a championship (despite it being a "B" tournament) and that the Blue Devils, and not the "A" Geese, would be getting the t-shirts and hats (which my son indifferently tossed in the trash a long time ago). Talk about mortifying. It was awful watching 10 year olds with tears in their eyes begging their parents to "stop", and that pretty much sealed the deal for a bunch of us who left the following year. Not surprisingly, these were the same classy people from West Islip (although one particular vulgar loudmouth was from Sachem) who later left the Geese because, at some point in the past, one of the Legacy coaches cut some of their sons from the town travel team, and of course revenge had to be exacted. If you read this forum, you'll see they're still at it 4 or 5 years after the fact, bashing Legacy and that coach because their emotional boo-boo from West Islip PAL still hasn't healed (that Sachem person is just a bad egg). Sad and pathetic. But no, there's no reason as an organization can't have a good A and B team, as long as you keep the trash where it belongs - off the sidelines and in the bin.


If you had read my entire post instead of concentrating on the final sentence you would realise this wasnt an insult to Blue Devils. In fact it was a compliment. It was one of the few possibly only really good B team in an organization where there were multiple teams in 2025 age bracket. And it had really good coaches. However, when everything happened with the Geese, and I agree how badly those parents acted who left, Legacy dissolved the Blue Devils and kept only the Geese to try and save it. I think in the end if they had concentrated as much on mantaining the Blue Devils, they would have bern more successful. But these organizations prioritize there A team over their B team.
Ultimately people who want a B team are better with an organization with only one team in the age bracket.


I apologize to you for taking your comment the wrong way. But you should know that Legacy didn't dissolve the Blue Devils, the parents left. Legacy would have been more than happy to keep that team going. And why not? They were competitive, winning 2 championships in 2 years. The ironic part is that there are several players from that 2016/17, 2017/18 Legacy Blue Devils "B" team, like my son, who now play for "A" CoachC, R$SH GoldRush, Rebels and Team 91. Legacy should have "promoted" those kids to the Geese once that group of 5 parents left Legacy mid-season to try out for 91 back in the spring of '18. It was pretty foolish - they were labeled as "B" kids as 9 year olds and now they're handing it to the Geese while playing on A squads for other organizations. Maybe they're not the "best of the best", but it looks like the Geese could sure use them now. It's unreal, that that small group of disgruntled parents wound up destroying two teams in the 2025 age group for Legacy. I'm sure Karma will deal with them eventually. But maybe this story has a happy ending - the tide carried out the seaweed, and there are rumors that Legacy brought down the Taz coaching staff to work with the Geese and that they have them practicing with the 2024 team. My son is happy where he is, but I wouldn't automatically rule out a return to Legacy tryouts next year if that were true. There's still a few years of travel lacrosse left, the wheel could turn again.

Theres the GUy.. UNREAL. It will be your loss in the end. Legacy solid organization . Tommy Z. one of the best Advocates out there. Keep chasing the Shirt.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.


We are all happy on the team. May I suggest at the next tourney feel free to stop by the team tent and ask us all for yourself.


Will do Coach Davis.
Does FLG still have a 2025 (A or B) team?
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.


We are all happy on the team. May I suggest at the next tourney feel free to stop by the team tent and ask us all for yourself.

sounds like someone who doesn't want to turn in their bumper sticker and snazzy shirts they just bought. maybe someone will think your kid plays for CoachC?
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.

With that many kids they did not have a back up and needed bring in a guest player?
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.

i saw him playing defense and taking face offs. not even kidding.
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.

i saw him playing defense and taking face offs. not even kidding.

A lot of explaining to do for the first tournament of a new team. The directors must be so pleased.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.

With that many kids they did not have a back up and needed bring in a guest player?


I agree. You have 20 to 23 kids on a team. You generally have 3 lines of middies. If soneone is injured or cant make it, the other kids just get more playing time. If you are bringing in soneone not on the team, you are just cheating and looking to make your team do better by using an A player from another team thats not at the tournament or has a different schedule.
Second Tier team Rankings

Rush
Hitmen
Empire
Express
FLG
Epic Jokers
Turtles
Outlaws
Rebels Red
Force
Igloo
91
S2S
Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force
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everyone at express got their helmets already so why did they have players on the field with helmets from other clubs? why didn't the players that pay to play get on the field? express davis parents have a good argument for a refund so they can find a better home for their kid. there are plenty of other teams looking for players where your kid won't be taught that cheating is okay.



There was 1 kid without an express helmet and that 1 kid filled in for a kid who was injured. I dont see anything wrong with that.

How much playing time did he get?


He played LSM so you do the math genius.

i saw him playing defense and taking face offs. not even kidding.

A lot of explaining to do for the first tournament of a new team. The directors must be so pleased.

i know the tryouts for express b were a total mess
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Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force


Looks correct
Hitmen? Really?
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Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force


Looks correct


If by "correct", you mean "all of these teams are basically the same and would trade wins/losses depending on the day they play each other" then yeah....this list of rankings is correct
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force


Looks correct


If by "correct", you mean "all of these teams are basically the same and would trade wins/losses depending on the day they play each other" then yeah....this list of rankings is correct


Yes, likely
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force


Looks correct


If by "correct", you mean "all of these teams are basically the same and would trade wins/losses depending on the day they play each other" then yeah....this list of rankings is correct


Great response.
Hitmen? Really?
Express
Hitman
Turtles
Rush
Epic jokers
91
Igloo
Empire
Rebels Red
Flg
Outlaws
S2s
Force

FTFY
Does S2S still have the Gators and the Sharks?
Does it matter?
Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.
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Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.


Speaking of Epic Jokers, why in the world are they competing in A brackets?
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Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.


Sounds like sour grapes. If you knew the story of why he left then you would never post something like this. He didn't bail out. The organization he was with has a history of running off coaches. It's a shame of what it became because what the organization stood for was awesome. Too much dysfunction and gossip eventually took it down.

He's an outstanding coach, if he wasn't so far away from where we are my son would be with him without question. I agree they probably came out to play in tougher tournaments than they should have. But knowing him, he probably wanted to challenge them after the way they finished the summer. Nothing wrong with that.
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Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.


You dont know anything about that team. Most of that team is made up of the same kids that were on Mamaz Boyz. And parents were unhappy with Mamaz Boyz owner, not the coach.
He established Epic Jokers so Eastend kids would have a competitive club team that wasnt too far to get to. Most teams are a far drive for families on the east end of suffolk. I know people on that team and they love their coach and find it to be a really positive experience.
And if they want to try tournaments in the A bracket to challenge themselves, then thats theur prerogative. Fall ball is all about figuring out where your kids are at skillwise and what needs to be worked on.
Joker coaches are awesome
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Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.


You dont know anything about that team. Most of that team is made up of the same kids that were on Mamaz Boyz. And parents were unhappy with Mamaz Boyz owner, not the coach.
He established Epic Jokers so Eastend kids would have a competitive club team that wasnt too far to get to. Most teams are a far drive for families on the east end of suffolk. I know people on that team and they love their coach and find it to be a really positive experience.
And if they want to try tournaments in the A bracket to challenge themselves, then thats theur prerogative. Fall ball is all about figuring out where your kids are at skillwise and what needs to be worked on.


True and nothing wrong with it, but I think scrimmages before the first tourney is a better way to gauge things.
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Jokers will fall apart. Angry parents, bully type kids, and registering for tournaments they have no business attending. And a coach that bailed on his former team. Bad recipe.


You dont know anything about that team. Most of that team is made up of the same kids that were on Mamaz Boyz. And parents were unhappy with Mamaz Boyz owner, not the coach.
He established Epic Jokers so Eastend kids would have a competitive club team that wasnt too far to get to. Most teams are a far drive for families on the east end of suffolk. I know people on that team and they love their coach and find it to be a really positive experience.
And if they want to try tournaments in the A bracket to challenge themselves, then thats theur prerogative. Fall ball is all about figuring out where your kids are at skillwise and what needs to be worked on.


True and nothing wrong with it, but I think scrimmages before the first tourney is a better way to gauge things.


Scrimmages are useful but they dont replicate real game situations at a tourney where you are playing 3 games minimum with real rules. In the end its up to each team what bracket in a tourney they choose to register to play in. And if your going to try the A bracket, you may as well try it in the fall. And you never know. Plenty of teams dont do well in the A bracket in the Fall. Yet by spring and summer show up at tourneys amazingly better. And vice versa. Either way its noones business what another team chooses to play in. People need to concentrate on their own kid and his team.
Looking forward to spring and summer. I think it will be an intrtesting year.
When i read this I feel so much better that you all know so much about lacrosse and recruiting , I can not wait until theses boys are being recruited and then listen to all this garbage . I will give you one tip it is not all about your team but about the coach at the end of the day ... GOOD LUCK T SHIRT CHASERS
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hitman
Express
Epic jokers
Turtles
Rush
Empire
91
Rebels Red
Flg
Igloo
Outlaws
S2s
Force


Looks correct


If by "correct", you mean "all of these teams are basically the same and would trade wins/losses depending on the day they play each other" then yeah....this list of rankings is correct


Forget about ranking all these teams. They're all going to face each other and like the other poster mentioned will trade wins and losses. Nobody in this group is the clear top of the B teams.
And there are a ton of other teams these guys will see at tournaments. E3, 24, Recon, 3 Village, Checkmate come to mind as teams to include in the B group
There are also teams in teh A bracket which belong in B. To save the embarassment I will not name them.
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There are also teams in teh A bracket which belong in B. To save the embarassment I will not name them.


Like your kids team.
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There are also teams in teh A bracket which belong in B. To save the embarassment I will not name them.


He means: to stop embarrassing HIMSELF, he won't name them. Good decision. Go back to living through your 12 year old son - hope you finished your math homework.
What a butt!!
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.


Agree that these were great B team options but that was before every club had a b team. The landscape has completely changed. More kids playing and have many more options. Also, clubs are using second rate coaches with younger B teams and players don't get development. Just because the kid was a 4 year starter doesnt make him a qualified youth lacrosse coach.


Everything you said about the other years B teams are true. For whatever reason this year just never seemed to be able to get that highly committed coach. Those other years 2022,2023, a few others, those coaches are top notch. You used the word to describe this year as struggling. Struggling is maybe not winning a lot of games. Coaches not showing, canceling practices all the time, no director support, 80 percent of the team not coming to practice. The term is use is disaster.


I think it’s all great info and a lot these last posts have been honest and respectful. A lot better than reading endless pages about the the WSYL being a money grab, holdbacks ruining the sport, accusatory cheating and name calling. Reality is there more players closer to B/B+ than AA.


It's amazing how quickly the travel lax landscape is changing. I truly has become as much about money as it has about developing kids. The truth is, most "B" teams have a few "A" team players and most "A" teams have a few "B" team players.
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So just Express and 91? No opinion on Force B, Igloo B, Rebels B, Rush B? And it’s all the coach. Find a good one. All those clubs will support B teams, but you need a dedicated coach. And you also need dedication from the players to fully commit. Get that and it can be a C team and you’ll be happy. Point is, a lot of good advice here that people are sharing. Best suggestion was call the coach or club and go to a practice and determine if it fits both ways. Ask how many middies, attack, and defensemen are on the team. Ask how often to you practice, do you have a coach that just does defense and goalies, etc etc. Great responses. I guess B team parents are saner than A team parents...that is a joke.


I know this is not going to be a popular post, but I'm not sure about 91 and Express B teams. Sure, at our level they are struggling; however, I have a senior and a freshman as well and have seen how they have developed in the past. 91 in particular has historically had some very good B teams. 2019 White, 2020 Orange (both well represented at DI schools), 2021 Ambush, 2022 United (who went off an their own under the 91 umbrella) and 2023 Warriors have all been very well coached and competitive teams that play in the top divisions at top tournaments. 2024 and below are still struggling, but they will likely solidify based on historical data. Express had a very good B team at 2020, but they have really failed to produce a high quality B team for awhile. With that being said, their B teams are still good and well represented in many high level touneys and many are coached by the same guys that coach the private schools. The issue with these clubs is that now they are starting 3rd teams on grade levels. I think the market is just too saturated at this point to be able to maintain a quality 3rd option.
I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The bigger clubs definitely offer more in the lines of practice and training. Teams like Turtles, Rebels, Force, Icon, Igloo, etc... are very much hit or miss during the winter and spring. Whereas 91 and Express generally offer included year round training to everyone who cuts the check. And that check is smaller than the parents of A teams are writing.


Agree that these were great B team options but that was before every club had a b team. The landscape has completely changed. More kids playing and have many more options. Also, clubs are using second rate coaches with younger B teams and players don't get development. Just because the kid was a 4 year starter doesnt make him a qualified youth lacrosse coach.


Everything you said about the other years B teams are true. For whatever reason this year just never seemed to be able to get that highly committed coach. Those other years 2022,2023, a few others, those coaches are top notch. You used the word to describe this year as struggling. Struggling is maybe not winning a lot of games. Coaches not showing, canceling practices all the time, no director support, 80 percent of the team not coming to practice. The term is use is disaster.


I think it’s all great info and a lot these last posts have been honest and respectful. A lot better than reading endless pages about the the WSYL being a money grab, holdbacks ruining the sport, accusatory cheating and name calling. Reality is there more players closer to B/B+ than AA.


It's amazing how quickly the travel lax landscape is changing. I truly has become as much about money as it has about developing kids. The truth is, most "B" teams have a few "A" team players and most "A" teams have a few "B" team players.


It’s a business and that’s true of all youth sports. Fact is, it’s a 6 billion dollar industry, last I heard. The problem with B players on A teams is that very few want to play on a B team. And understand that because some B teams are run so poorly. But there are great B team situations out there and generally they are always looking for a player or two. I won’t mention clubs, not fair. But you are the consumer, why not find the best situation. No reason to wait for tryouts every year, if you are unhappy and think the team is going nowhere go do some research and call coaches and parents. Nice thing about B teams is they are always looking to improve roster.
If your son is on a A team but never plays in meaningful games is he really a A player or a B player?
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If your son is on a A team but never plays in meaningful games is he really a A player or a B player?


Depends on the team. But for the most part yes, but would likely be the best player or first line on a good B team. But parents don’t get that and think it’s about development and hang onto the few minutes their son gets. Never realizing that leaving the team is better for longer term. But you know a lot parents love bragging they are an A team. Lax intervention time. If your son isn’t seeing playing time on his team now, he will likely never crack the lineup. Instead of pep talking him on the way to practice and telling him what he did wrong at practice on the ride home. Ask him was it fun or do want play somewhere that you can’t be a starter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your son is on a A team but never plays in meaningful games is he really a A player or a B player?


Depends on the team. But for the most part yes, but would likely be the best player or first line on a good B team. But parents don’t get that and think it’s about development and hang onto the few minutes their son gets. Never realizing that leaving the team is better for longer term. But you know a lot parents love bragging they are an A team. Lax intervention time. If your son isn’t seeing playing time on his team now, he will likely never crack the lineup. Instead of pep talking him on the way to practice and telling him what he did wrong at practice on the ride home. Ask him was it fun or do want play somewhere that you can’t be a starter.


WOW! That sounds just like my son. Except, well, he's really not my son. He's a koala. We dress him up as a boy. Anyway, he doesn't play. I think it's cause he's always just hanging around at practice, not doing much, just hanging and eating eucalyptus leaves. I'm sure he'd be better if the coaches paid more attention to him and also when we give him a stick he just eats it. It's not his fault he likes fiber. I'm pretty sure he only made the team because the coach is a mule. I don't care. We live in a lacrosse town and all the moms talk about what teams their kids are on. Of course, mine isn't a kid, he's a joey. But whatever, it keeps the wife happy. She's not too bright. Anyway, she talks about little joey hanging around on the A team and I get to stay late a work making some extra dough to pay for it all. Except, I'm not always at work - sometimes I'm getting a little action with this fox that my old lady don't know about. It's the lax life baby! Hey - why do all these coaches have such white teeth anyway?
This conversation is going nowhere. Lets talk about the WSYL...and the money maker that has become... Lets talk about teams that qualify (at the real tournament) and then have the stones to say they don't want to go. Will any qualifying team have the decency to poll the parents, as to if they even want to go to Denver, collectively as a group? Will these organizations realize turning Denver down is just as good as going in terms of "Club Notoriety"? Lets talk about that... What happens is 1/2 the parents want to go and half dont? How about that for conversation?
WSYL is a waste of money no reason to go ask all the older boys if it really mattered if they went and 98% would say it does not matter . Save your money and go on a family trip .. Wait until the people go and do not play let me know how many kids will be looking for new homes next year
BINGO But do these extortionist Club owners man-up and give the team a choice ? Or do they try and force feed it to all the dopes living vicariously thru their kids?
Listen it’s all a money grab. That’s just how it is. I went to yankees/astros game, tickets were a ripoff, parking was a ripoff. The 2 rounds of beer I bought for my 3 friends was a ripoff. Everything about that night was a ripoff. However I chose to go. I knew it would be a ripoff. We as families make the choice to allow our kids to play club lax or club anything I should say. It is a ripoff. I agree. We choose to do this. Everyone should know the deal going in. Some people have tons of money, some people go into debt to have kids play travel sports. I don’t think I would do that, but some people do. Everyone has to do what’s right for their son and family, what’s right for you, may not be right for someone else.
WSYL is a massive joke. Its all for the chest pounding parents. Lets fly out to Denver for a week to play a team we could play at Cantiague Park to show everyone that we are better than them. Complete BS scam.
I just want to see what happens if a club qualifies and then 1/2 the team wants to take a pass. Let the fun begin! That will be an un-winnable situation for all involved.
My son's team will participate in the qualifiers, but knowing that we have no chance of beating Express (as the rest of you do not), we won't be voting to go if the team qualifies. Why? We already play all the top teams in the nation right here on the East Coast, so we have already experienced playing at the top level of the sport. And then we'd have just played all the top teams in the Northeast at the qualifiers. For a middle of the pack team like ours, why spend upwards of $10K to do the same thing over the 4th of July weekend in a landlocked state that's known for its winter activities? Now, if our team was in a seesaw battle with Express over the past two seasons and it was anyone's game, then that would be a different calculation. But it's not. As a matter of fact, I think it would pretty cool if every team declined to go, and Express' recruiting and pilfering techniques were rewarded by them traveling to Colorado to play second tier teams from Montana and Texas named "Roadrunners" or "Yosemite Sams" or whatever. Also, our team has decided to not add 8th graders, so why put ourselves in a position to compete with teams who are looking to maximize their advantage under the rules? No thanks. But all that being said, don't be surprised if the 2025 teams look a bit different next year and the competitive landscape shifts, as the deck reshuffles after parents realize that its in their son's best interest to choose a program that develops them and puts them in the best position to play college lacrosse, and not win a trophy in Denver.
One of the most accurate and well said posts I read on here in a long time.
I think you're going to see some player movement next year, as the focus shifts from "what team gives my son the best chance to win in Denver" to "which coach/organization gives my son the greatest opportunity to be recruited?" And I think a big part of being recruited is getting meaningful playing time. If you're concerned about your son's playing time, but think you've made the right choice because you're with a "winning" program, it might be time to explore better options.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen it’s all a money grab. That’s just how it is. I went to yankees/astros game, tickets were a ripoff, parking was a ripoff. The 2 rounds of beer I bought for my 3 friends was a ripoff. Everything about that night was a ripoff. However I chose to go. I knew it would be a ripoff. We as families make the choice to allow our kids to play club lax or club anything I should say. It is a ripoff. I agree. We choose to do this. Everyone should know the deal going in. Some people have tons of money, some people go into debt to have kids play travel sports. I don’t think I would do that, but some people do. Everyone has to do what’s right for their son and family, what’s right for you, may not be right for someone else.



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smartest guy in the room. Agreed.
anyone know anything about recon or O2?
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anyone know anything about recon or O2?


O2 is from NJ and just merged with Hudson Valley Express. I've typically seen them more at box tournaments than field tournaments, so will be interesting to see how they are.
Recon is an organization that has been around Long Island for a while. They are typically better at the HS ages than youth
Things have quieted down on this board. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Thoughts on True Blue at this age? is there more than one team?
They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.
Regulators and Rebels good luck with that in years to come... lol
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They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.


Didn't Rebels bring older kids down to last tournament? That's not interesting. Its cheating!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.


Didn't Rebels bring older kids down to last tournament? That's not interesting. Its cheating!


Did they? You are raising it. So support your statement with facts, which club you are affiliated with, and any other proof. Or throw it on the mountain of half truths and innuendo that people seem to post about.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.


Didn't Rebels bring older kids down to last tournament? That's not interesting. Its cheating!


Did they? You are raising it. So support your statement with facts, which club you are affiliated with, and any other proof. Or throw it on the mountain of half truths and innuendo that people seem to post about.


There’s a lot on that mountain, but not 1 Rebels parent has come out and denied it. Most of the half truths are met with argument. Not this one.
Look out, 91 is coming out of hiding this weekend down in DE! Will all the coaches show up? Will they show a new offense after hiding all this time? Will anyone actually care besides the blastard parents? Speaking of which, will those same parents use the excuse of the team not being an early morning team if they lose their first game or will the excuse be that it’s their first tournament? Inquiring minds want to know...... so we can have a good laugh.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.


Didn't Rebels bring older kids down to last tournament? That's not interesting. Its cheating!


Did they? You are raising it. So support your statement with facts, which club you are affiliated with, and any other proof. Or throw it on the mountain of half truths and innuendo that people seem to post about.


There’s a lot on that mountain, but not 1 Rebels parent has come out and denied it. Most of the half truths are met with argument. Not this one.


Yup they did. And they are not the only ones. R$sh did as well. Teams are putting 2024 kids in their tournaments who meet the Denver tournament age rules. Express has put older kids like this on their team for a long time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played 1 tournament over fall and went winless. Not much to see there. Regulators is interesting as is that Rebels team. Lots of chatter in this forum regarding them. Dont know much about either other than what I read, but they seem to be a name the people on this site love to write about.


Didn't Rebels bring older kids down to last tournament? That's not interesting. Its cheating!


Did they? You are raising it. So support your statement with facts, which club you are affiliated with, and any other proof. Or throw it on the mountain of half truths and innuendo that people seem to post about.


There’s a lot on that mountain, but not 1 Rebels parent has come out and denied it. Most of the half truths are met with argument. Not this one.


Yup they did. And they are not the only ones. R$sh did as well. Teams are putting 2024 kids in their tournaments who meet the Denver tournament age rules. Express has put older kids like this on their team for a long time.


Express only has one (well documented here) and has a couple of 26 kids on the team too.
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Look out, 91 is coming out of hiding this weekend down in DE! Will all the coaches show up? Will they show a new offense after hiding all this time? Will anyone actually care besides the blastard parents? Speaking of which, will those same parents use the excuse of the team not being an early morning team if they lose their first game or will the excuse be that it’s their first tournament? Inquiring minds want to know...... so we can have a good laugh.


1) Do they ever?
2) They have to use it at some point.
3) Definitely not.
4) All excuses have already been carefully curated and are ready for your Monday morning BOTC reading pleasure
That’s the problem with age vs grade. An 8th grader can be younger than a 7th grader. Several teams have a player, who is age eligible for WSYL, who participate in these tournaments. Academically they are 8th graders, club lax age requirements they fit in to the 2025 bracket. That’s why nobody knows what the heck is going on. Think about this stupidity for 1 second. A kid is smart enough and socially ok, to be an 8th grade student born October of 2006. Another kid isn’t smart enough or socially behind and his parents elected to have him start late in kindergarten. He is sept of 2006. So he repeated pre school for a year. The 8th grader is younger than the 7th grader. How on this planet, is it justified that the younger kid can’t play and the older kid can. I never even understood this debate. To me it’s a no brainer. To every other sport it’s also a no brainer. Kids that are the same age, competing in a sport isn’t cheating. There is absolutely no response anyone can give that can dispute that fact.
Why do you think theRush and Rebels brought down "Older kids"? You wrote it so I am curious as to why and how someone knows that? Did you ask the kid(s)? The team? Or were you a sheep who heard another malcontent complaining and you followed suit.... Baaaaaaah! Baaaaaaaahhhh!
What happened at Express B tryouts?
Wow bro..u just got schooled. Dude does have a point. Sheep....good stuff
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Why do you think RUpoop and Rebels brought down "Older kids"? You wrote it so I am curious as to why and how someone knows that? Did you ask the kid(s)? The team? Or were you a sheep who heard another malcontent complaining and you followed suit.... Baaaaaaah! Baaaaaaaahhhh!


Its pretty simple. We all know parents on the other teams. So there are plenty of teams we know that its happening in. So yes I know.
There's no way that Rebels team brought down older players. They scored 7 goals in 3 games against highly mediocre competition and according to the Tourney app, they won 2 games total in the last 2 tournaments. If they had older players playing, they surely would have done better than that. What you're seeing with that team is exactly what you saw last year - mediocrity. And that's what you'll see in the spring - more mediocrity. But again, if the parents are happy with their son's playing time, who cares what their record is or if they go 1-2 every tournament? Your son isn't getting recruited off the team's record, he's getting recruited off his minutes spent actually on the field. As a matter of fact, we should rename this forum from BOTC to AOTF. This way, anyone who's kid is player 23 through 30 on a "juggernaut" can't comment even though he's "winning", because while his teammates who actually start may be putting the ball in the BOTC, their son isn't AOTF, so they're losing out on critical development time.
Parity at it's best! The guy above nailed it: Make sure your kid is playing and enjoying the experience. If not move on
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.
What does an older kid have to do with scoring goals? I know 26's that can outscore 25's and 24's. Thats just an ignorant argument. Rebels had a few bigger kids and so did Rupoop but so what? Does that mean the dwarves on those rosters are 2030's? Please... Next argument
What does an older kid have to do with scoring goals? For starters, Rebels and others who go that route do so because they admit their talent pool at the 2025 level is lacking. So, to supplement it, they bring down older kids. Are those older kids better than some 2025s? No, not necessarily. But they are better than what the Rebels already have at the 2025 level? Yes. Otherwise, why bother? Does that directly lead to an increase in goals? No. Does it mean that the Rebels would score more goals with older add-ons than they would if they only played their 2025 talent? Yes. But there's the thing: anytime you see an organization (Rebels, Rupaul/Rushpoop/R$SH, whomever) add older kids what they're telegraphing to the world is: hey, we don't have enough talent at the 2025 level, so we're going to paper over our holes with older kids, who may or may not be better than Express' 2025 kids, but at least they're better than any options we have with our 2025 players. So when you see organizations adding older players, do yourselves a favor: run away as fast as you can and join an organization that only plays 2025 kids (like Express, for example, or some others). At least you know your organization is being honest with you and your kid's development.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


If past years are any indication, the smaller kids will be pushed aside for larger faster kids over the next few years. That goes for 91 as well. From 8th-9th, many kids are going to reclassify due to the oncoming recruitment events. Holdbacks galore and stud players from other clubs as well. And they will all go to Express and 91 because they have the most pull, best connections and most attention at events. Furthermore, looking at 91 and Express 21's-24's, more and more kids are coming from out of state. Connecticut, NJ, Phily, Florida, NC, Denver, and many Westchester players are scattered among those clubs. If you think it's competitive now, you've not seen anything yet. Your coaches will tell you it will never happen, but high level college commitments are what drive sales. Chan and the mule don't have kids on these teams and priority #1 is to line their pockets. If you want to know where your son will be, look in the mirror. If you are a short dad or if you have a short wife, your kid's days are likely numbered. Unless playing only on man-down or only short stick defensive middie is ok with you, then you may be ok. Enjoy this year, because it's over after this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Express B tryouts?

who cares? team is irrelevant
"If you are a short dad or if you have a short wife, your kid's days are likely numbered" - tell that to Jose Altuve's (5'6") parents. What's that you say? Lacrosse is more physical than baseball? Ok, then tell that to Emmit Smith's (5'9") or Barry Sander's (5'8") parents. Athletes, like donkey posters, come in all shapes and sizes, and tall does not = talent. Not to mention that little detail called recessive genes, where short people have tall kids and parents with brown eyes have kids with blue. Look on the sidelines - what you see is not necessarily what you'll get.
Listen to that dweeb, it’s over after this. Who says that. It’s a game guy. It’s a sport, kids are having fun. I can pay the 8700 dollars extra for college. Thanks for your concern though. When I met my wife in college, I didnt really think much of her being 5’3. I didn’t say we shouldn’t get married, because maybe one day, if we have a boy and if he decides to play club lacrosse, he has no shot. It’s over after 12. Comical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.
How many teams does Annapolis Hawks have for the 2025 age group?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


If past years are any indication, the smaller kids will be pushed aside for larger faster kids over the next few years. That goes for 91 as well. From 8th-9th, many kids are going to reclassify due to the oncoming recruitment events. Holdbacks galore and stud players from other clubs as well. And they will all go to Express and 91 because they have the most pull, best connections and most attention at events. Furthermore, looking at 91 and Express 21's-24's, more and more kids are coming from out of state. Connecticut, NJ, Phily, Florida, NC, Denver, and many Westchester players are scattered among those clubs. If you think it's competitive now, you've not seen anything yet. Your coaches will tell you it will never happen, but high level college commitments are what drive sales. Chan and the mule don't have kids on these teams and priority #1 is to line their pockets. If you want to know where your son will be, look in the mirror. If you are a short dad or if you have a short wife, your kid's days are likely numbered. Unless playing only on man-down or only short stick defensive middie is ok with you, then you may be ok. Enjoy this year, because it's over after this.



Wait, what? Long Island Holdbacks??? Cant be true.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams does Annapolis Hawks have for the 2025 age group?


2 Green and Black.
Who cares? And who cares about Chuckie? They are the King until someone knocks them off the throne. everyone else is playing for the steak knives....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams does Annapolis Hawks have for the 2025 age group?


2 Green and Black.


Is green the top team or black?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams does Annapolis Hawks have for the 2025 age group?


2 Green and Black.


Is green the top team or black?


Green is A Black is B
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"If you are a short dad or if you have a short wife, your kid's days are likely numbered" - tell that to Jose Altuve's (5'6") parents. What's that you say? Lacrosse is more physical than baseball? Ok, then tell that to Emmit Smith's (5'9") or Barry Sander's (5'8") parents. Athletes, like donkey posters, come in all shapes and sizes, and tall does not = talent. Not to mention that little detail called recessive genes, where short people have tall kids and parents with brown eyes have kids with blue. Look on the sidelines - what you see is not necessarily what you'll get.


I agree with this, but the other poster is talking about how the dynamic of the teams have changed after 7th grade. Having an older guy myself, I can tell you that he's right. It's crazy how many kids move to Express and 91. Not saying short kids cant be good (Panell, Kavanaugh, Sankey, etc.. all played high level lax), but given the choice in 8th or 9th grade between a short athletic player and a taller, stronger athletic player, those two teams have definitely gone with the "bigger is better" attitude. Especially from the midfield spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


If that’s the case, then why cheat. Send the kid and his jacked up dad back to the 2024s
Express has a great team. Probably the best team. But you know what, if your number one goal is to be on the best team, congrats, you achieved your goal. These kids and families sacrifice a lot. They practice 4 sometimes 5 times a week. Most teams go twice. Express plays in like 15 tournaments in a calendar year. Most other teams maybe 8 or 9. Express with all the additional fees maybe 8,10 grand a year, most other teams maybe 4 grand. At the end of the day, they should be the best, they deserve to be the best, they are the best. Me personally, I’d rather have my son on a very good team, that costs a few grand less. I’m happy with twice a week practice. My son plays 2 other sports and has something just about every night. I’m happy playing a good amount of tournaments, but I have 3 kids who also play other sports. I like to attend their weekend events also. We also like to do non sport family vacations. Cruises, Disney, Italy,Caribbean, great memories over the years. My sons team works very well for us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


Get rolling on down to Delaware then.
Thats a long ride to take the same Arse-Whooping LI teams could take here locally from Exp. Why does everyone get so bent? They are the best team. Period! Big deal! Does it make your kid any less f a player? Get over it.
All you Express parents are really embarrassing you are living through little Johnny on a lax field and you all think that you are in the right spot . Talk to me in 4 years when Coach C stops taking your calls and you are scrambling to get into a showcase or even better talk with a college coach . Good Luck with that because i can tell you from experience you are being led down a bad path . Have fun collecting your T Shirts because in 4 years time you and your kid will not remember the T Shirts it is about the next step ....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"If you are a short dad or if you have a short wife, your kid's days are likely numbered" - tell that to Jose Altuve's (5'6") parents. What's that you say? Lacrosse is more physical than baseball? Ok, then tell that to Emmit Smith's (5'9") or Barry Sander's (5'8") parents. Athletes, like donkey posters, come in all shapes and sizes, and tall does not = talent. Not to mention that little detail called recessive genes, where short people have tall kids and parents with brown eyes have kids with blue. Look on the sidelines - what you see is not necessarily what you'll get.


I agree with this, but the other poster is talking about how the dynamic of the teams have changed after 7th grade. Having an older guy myself, I can tell you that he's right. It's crazy how many kids move to Express and 91. Not saying short kids cant be good (Panell, Kavanaugh, Sankey, etc.. all played high level lax), but given the choice in 8th or 9th grade between a short athletic player and a taller, stronger athletic player, those two teams have definitely gone with the "bigger is better" attitude. Especially from the midfield spot.


Also having a kid on an older team, this is correct. The coach said "I can teach them lacrosse. I can't teach them size." He didn't cut the better small kids, but they don't play nearly as much as they did or sometimes at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Express B tryouts?

who cares? team is irrelevant



If they are so irrelevant then why are you talking about them so much... Just sayin.
Rebels B is looking for kids too. I guess joingng these teams is a year round option
Every B team is looking for players and every A team is open to a new player if he's going to significantly improve the team.
And they are both looking for checks too
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


If that’s the case, then why cheat. Send the kid and his jacked up dad back to the 2024s


Like it or not, this is how it works now. And, newsflash, hes not the only one. That kid will b going to St Anthony's and will be re-classed when he does. His anticipated graduation year is 2025. That's how it works now in grade-based lacrosse. You don't have to like it, just stop repeating yourself.
Write the check
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Express B tryouts?

who cares? team is irrelevant



If they are so irrelevant then why are you talking about them so much... Just sayin.


Just go enjoy your new shiny red helmet and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at Express B tryouts?

who cares? team is irrelevant



If they are so irrelevant then why are you talking about them so much... Just sayin.


Go enjoy your shiny red helmet and move on. Enough already
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


If that’s the case, then why cheat. Send the kid and his jacked up dad back to the 2024s


Like it or not, this is how it works now. And, newsflash, hes not the only one. That kid will b going to St Anthony's and will be re-classed when he does. His anticipated graduation year is 2025. That's how it works now in grade-based lacrosse. You don't have to like it, just stop repeating yourself.


Ok daddy
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


If that’s the case, then why cheat. Send the kid and his jacked up dad back to the 2024s


Like it or not, this is how it works now. And, newsflash, hes not the only one. That kid will b going to St Anthony's and will be re-classed when he does. His anticipated graduation year is 2025. That's how it works now in grade-based lacrosse. You don't have to like it, just stop repeating yourself.

Cheaters gonna cheat
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.


Thats a bit cocky thinking that the 2025's would beat the 2024's. Reality is we have reached the point where kids are going thru puberty. The competition that 2024 is coming up against is completely different from what 2025 encounters. Putting sone 2024s in the final game would defenitely help them win the championship. And since they struggled in the prior game against 91 MD, it seems questionable how he went 10 to 3 against tge Hawks a half an hour later.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.
now that certainly is not true. 2025 team would never.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.
now that certainly is not true. 2025 team would never.


2024 team was not long gone. They were finishing their pool games just as CoachC was finishing his playooff game against 91 MD. They would have been around for him to pull players for the championship game against the Hawks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.


Thats a bit cocky thinking that the 2025's would beat the 2024's. Reality is we have reached the point where kids are going thru puberty. The competition that 2024 is coming up against is completely different from what 2025 encounters. Putting sone 2024s in the final game would defenitely help them win the championship. And since they struggled in the prior game against 91 MD, it seems questionable how he went 10 to 3 against tge Hawks a half an hour later.


You must have better than things to do than sit around and make this stuff up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available



You 91 parents are really sinking to a new low. Just because Express destroyed a team that you lost to, now you need to try to smear them because you can’t handle that they’re that much better than you? Childish. For the record, Team 91 Maryland went 3-0 in arguably the toughest bracket down there. The truth is, they have improved greatly. They were big fast and skilled. They are just another team better than Blast right now. You are just to small to be considered elite. After losing to Hawks, once you lose to 91 Md and the mule sees that you can’t compete with bigger kids, he’s going to recruit heavily. Your team will look drastically different next year and your tiny midfielders will ride pine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available



You 91 parents are really sinking to a new low. Just because Express destroyed a team that you lost to, now you need to try to smear them because you can’t handle that they’re that much better than you? Childish. For the record, Team 91 Maryland went 3-0 in arguably the toughest bracket down there. The truth is, they have improved greatly. They were big fast and skilled. They are just another team better than Blast right now. You are just to small to be considered elite. After losing to Hawks, once you lose to 91 Md and the mule sees that you can’t compete with bigger kids, he’s going to recruit heavily. Your team will look drastically different next year and your tiny midfielders will ride pine.

Too small. You overpaid for that private school education.

Dude, relax and take “your” shirt gracefully without going after 91LI. I thought the post was a probably from a Hawks fan. You don’t know who posted, but your angry rant of a reply shows that winning isn’t enough for you It’s probably because your kid doesn’t play. I was there and know that they didn’t use 24s because they barely used half of the 27 or 28 kids that were there from 2025s including your boy apparently. But the shirts are nice, long sleeves are great this time of year. Congratulations angry dad!
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Dude, relax and take “your” shirt gracefully without going after 91LI. I thought the post was a probably from a Hawks fan. You don’t know who posted, but your angry rant of a reply shows that winning isn’t enough for you It’s probably because your kid doesn’t play. I was there and know that they didn’t use 24s because they barely used half of the 27 or 28 kids that were there from 2025s including your boy apparently. But the shirts are nice, long sleeves are great this time of year. Congratulations angry dad!


Keep teaching your kid to beat up on the weak teams and shrink when it matters, Blastard. Sounds like he’s a chip off the old block.
2025 CoachC spanked the hawks 10-3 while 91 dads are still driving home saying in the car ride home “ did you see the size of those kids on the hawks , They’re older they’re bigger “ lol. Lame excuses, get on the field and play ball and stop your whining, you don’t see express whining and complaining do you , nope , just good load fashioned ballin
What happened to 91? What a shame - they should change their name to Ninety "one and done"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its interesting how CoachC barely beat 91 Maryland in the playoffs today 7 to 6. But then handily beat the Annapolis Hawks 10 to 3 for the championship.
Either 91 Maryland is really amazing, or CoachC brought in help for the cgampionship game.
Hmmmm
CoachS's team players were available


Why would he do that? The Express 2025 team would likely beat the 2024 team. And the 2024 team was long gone already having lost in pool play and not making it to playoffs.

One of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard on BOTC.
now that certainly is not true. 2025 team would never.


2024 team was not long gone. They were finishing their pool games just as CoachC was finishing his playooff game against 91 MD. They would have been around for him to pull players for the championship game against the Hawks.


May I suggest a simple solution, video. All your phones have it. Unfortunate to have to go to those lengths but if it will end the uncertainty, I don't see a problem with it.
This is a comical statement. The Hawks team is the smallest team around. Smaller than most 2026 teams. Ironically 3 of the 4 teams that made it to the finals are very small, LI Express, 91LI and the Hawks. Shows you don’t have to be huge to play this game. Want to see a big team, Look at Bethesda, Laxchusetts or Big 4HHH. Speed and skill is just as important as size. Many big kids rely on their size their whole life and don’t develop the skill. All 4 semi final teams showed why they belonged there and Express showed why they are #1 right now. Could change at any tournament. This is what makes it fun!
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


So that begs the question, who will play Express on ESPN on July 4th? Will Blast make the trip for nothing? Maybe CSH shows up and bounces them from the qualifier. Are Hawks or 91 Md going to be age eligible?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.
The Answer is WHO CARES! As long as it isnt my son's team and my wallet isnt getting punished I could give a hoot less! I'll be eating Nathans Hotdogs on the 4th, not debating if a kid is of age at a LI Lax tournament played in Denver. WAKE UP FOLKS!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Answer is WHO CARES! As long as it isnt my son's team and my wallet isnt getting punished I could give a hoot less! I'll be eating Nathans Hotdogs on the 4th, not debating if a kid is of age at a LI Lax tournament played in Denver. WAKE UP FOLKS!


True, But ESPN will be on your TV at 6pm on July 4th. Because your son and his friends will be watching and you might sneak a peak. My guess is it will be Express vs BBL.
My son will be in a pool, playing with his friends. The last thing on his mind will be "I wonder if Express won?" I can promise you he will be more concerned about what flavors the ice cream man will be serving that day. The only way he will know the results is when he hears the obsessed parents at the next practice talking about it. And if I sneak a peek at that meaningless propaganda on 4th of July weekend, rather than hanging out with my son, I may as well sit in my garage with the car running and take deep breaths as I would have failed miserably in life smile But for the purposes of this board I'd still take Express and give the points.
OMG THE BEST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN THAT IS HILARIOUS
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Brotherly Love beat 91 MD on Sunday. They built a team for the WSYL, it would be nice to see an MD or PA team play Express in the finals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Brotherly Love beat 91 MD on Sunday. They built a team for the WSYL, it would be nice to see an MD or PA team play Express in the finals.


91 MD 25s didn’t play on Sunday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd be surprised if CoachC has any 2024s on that team, maybe one? The whole team is TINY. I give them credit that they move the ball extremely well, their offensive players catch and throw better than any other team in the age group and they are well coached especially at rides and clears. The defense is mediocre at best, maybe below average even. The goalie play is nothing special. They will continue to win a ton of games because they can score at will. They are dominant now but it probably won't last much longer. The players overall are quick but very small, weak and not great athletes. Just look down the sideline and you'll see what the parents look like. There are a few other teams that have bigger, stronger, faster kids who are just better athletes who are probably playing a ton of other sports still. In the next year or two, everyone will catch up in terms of stick skills. Talk to me in high school when genetics kicks in and these other teams have linebackers with lacrosse sticks on the field. Ending up at 5'6" and 140 lbs isn't going to cut it.


Chuckster has an 8th grader who is also unfortunately too old for the WSYL. Small and fast, and cheating.


The team wouldn’t miss a beat in Denver. Not to be mean, but it’s the truth. And true for a lot on the roster, that’s how deep the team is. There is about 7 or 8 that if any left would impact the team. A part from that, Express train rolls on


If that’s the case, then why cheat. Send the kid and his jacked up dad back to the 2024s


Like it or not, this is how it works now. And, newsflash, hes not the only one. That kid will b going to St Anthony's and will be re-classed when he does. His anticipated graduation year is 2025. That's how it works now in grade-based lacrosse. You don't have to like it, just stop repeating yourself.


Really??!?! To this poster......... If you tried out for 91 this year, do you think they would have taken you? Watch yourself before you are called out. This isn’t how it works everywhere, and you know it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Brotherly Love beat 91 MD on Sunday. They built a team for the WSYL, it would be nice to see an MD or PA team play Express in the finals.


91 MD 25s didn’t play on Sunday.


The person on Brotherly Love is confused. They are mixing up 91 MD with 3D MD.
Brotherly Live was at the Warrior Famous Autumn Classic tournament run by Aloha. It was in Maryland.
Not the same level of competition as Deleware. They ended up against Sweetlax in championship and beat Sweetlax. (Sweetlax didnt even make it to playoffs in Deleware).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



Wait! Is that the soubd of Express whining and complaining?? I thought Express doesnt do that?

I quote:
"2025 CoachC spanked the hawks 10-3 while 91 dads are still driving home saying in the car ride home “ did you see the size of those kids on the hawks , They’re older they’re bigger “ lol. Lame excuses, get on the field and play ball and stop your whining, you don’t see express whining and complaining do you , nope , just good load fashioned ballin"

Hmmm. Sounds like its Express doing the whining and complaining about other teams being "older and bigger".
Too funny. What a fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dude, relax and take “your” shirt gracefully without going after 91LI. I thought the post was a probably from a Hawks fan. You don’t know who posted, but your angry rant of a reply shows that winning isn’t enough for you It’s probably because your kid doesn’t play. I was there and know that they didn’t use 24s because they barely used half of the 27 or 28 kids that were there from 2025s including your boy apparently. But the shirts are nice, long sleeves are great this time of year. Congratulations angry dad!


Keep teaching your kid to beat up on the weak teams and shrink when it matters, Blastard. Sounds like he’s a chip off the old block.


I guess the shirt didn’t fit. You should be happy your son was an important contributor, oh wait



Don’t worry,Chuckster will get him in next tournament
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


YOU ARE A LIEING SACK OF LaxinItUp!!

MM’s kid has ABSOLUTELY NOT been playing up the last few years! He is a TRUE 2024! And still is! Has been since DAY ONE! NEVER has played up. Never!

Read the kids posts donkey! He is a 2024 who loves playing down on the 2025 team. His posts are NONSTOP.

TEAM 91 Maryland. The true cheater team of 2025.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


Dont bother explaining to the Express parents. They love to make excuses. The say "Stop making excuses about older kids." And sure enough that exactly what they do. Pot calling the kettle black.
They dont like to face the facts that there are teams out there that can compete with them. They need to get used to it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.



My boy plays on a 2024 team and has been playing Team 91 and MM and MM’s kid since its inception. So when you say that MM’s kid has been playing up with the 2024’s the past couple of years, you are lying. I know the kid and MM. the kid is and always has been a 2024 on the team that MM coaches. You need to come up with some better lies that aren’t so easily verifiable. MM and his Team 91 Maryland would sell his mother for a new t-shirt. Real slimy guy and organization. As bad as it gets in youth lacrosse and that’s saying a lot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


YOU ARE A LIEING SACK OF LaxinItUp!!

MM’s kid has ABSOLUTELY NOT been playing up the last few years! He is a TRUE 2024! And still is! Has been since DAY ONE! NEVER has played up. Never!

Read the kids posts donkey! He is a 2024 who loves playing down on the 2025 team. His posts are NONSTOP.

TEAM 91 Maryland. The true cheater team of 2025.





For starters, why is a grown Meanyman following a 12/13 year old on social media? That’s just creepy. Secondly, quit hating on a kid who was willing/able to play up for eventually coming back down to his true grade. Just applaud him and move on....and don’t be a pedophile.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.



My boy plays on a 2024 team and has been playing Team 91 and MM and MM’s kid since its inception. So when you say that MM’s kid has been playing up with the 2024’s the past couple of years, you are lying. I know the kid and MM. the kid is and always has been a 2024 on the team that MM coaches. You need to come up with some better lies that aren’t so easily verifiable. MM and his Team 91 Maryland would sell his mother for a new t-shirt. Real slimy guy and organization. As bad as it gets in youth lacrosse and that’s saying a lot.





Yes, you are correct that his son has been on the 2024 team since inception, until last year. 91 MD hasn’t been around as long as many of the other clubs, so I used the phrase “a few years”.

No reason to lie and you can verify that he is on the 25 team and on age, when they compete in the World Series events. Saying your 24 son has played against him for years, doesn’t discredit the fact that he was playing up or prove that he is a holdback.

And per your precious post, the fact that you follow a 7th graders social media is concerning on many levels.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


YOU ARE A LIEING SACK OF LaxinItUp!!

MM’s kid has ABSOLUTELY NOT been playing up the last few years! He is a TRUE 2024! And still is! Has been since DAY ONE! NEVER has played up. Never!

Read the kids posts donkey! He is a 2024 who loves playing down on the 2025 team. His posts are NONSTOP.

TEAM 91 Maryland. The true cheater team of 2025.






Meet the real whining parents. The EXPRESS PARENT.
Dude take your own advice.
Quote:
" ...Stop making excuses about older kids."
What a fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.



My boy plays on a 2024 team and has been playing Team 91 and MM and MM’s kid since its inception. So when you say that MM’s kid has been playing up with the 2024’s the past couple of years, you are lying. I know the kid and MM. the kid is and always has been a 2024 on the team that MM coaches. You need to come up with some better lies that aren’t so easily verifiable. MM and his Team 91 Maryland would sell his mother for a new t-shirt. Real slimy guy and organization. As bad as it gets in youth lacrosse and that’s saying a lot.





CoachC get control of your whining Express parents. They love to give out advice. But they dont walk the walk.
"Stop making excuses about older kids."
You people are just insane with this. If you only knew. My nephew was on a good club team, 2 time all county in high school. Played at a very good D1 school. My sister and brother in-law saved about 40 thousand in college tuition over 4 years, not bad. He is hoping next year to be hired as a full time teacher and assistant lax coach. Also not bad. That’s the end of it people. This isn’t the NFL, this isn’t baseball, basketball. To see people go crazy over this, spend an absurd amount of money, bad mouth each other, insult the other teams, over something where there isn’t a lacrosse living at the end of the road, makes no sense to me.
FOLD THE DENVER TOURNEY! ITS ANARCHY!
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have '24s on the team now. But they're probably just playing up so they have a built in excuse in case they lose. The last time they tried playing up I thought those tiny kids were going get seriously hurt.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They lost to Roar last year. Regulators should be better than Roar.
Let them play in Garden City and call it Denver. Then charge them $7000 per player and give them a Warp and T shirt. Cha ching! GO HAWKS!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are just insane with this. If you only knew. My nephew was on a good club team, 2 time all county in high school. Played at a very good D1 school. My sister and brother in-law saved about 40 thousand in college tuition over 4 years, not bad. He is hoping next year to be hired as a full time teacher and assistant lax coach. Also not bad. That’s the end of it people. This isn’t the NFL, this isn’t baseball, basketball. To see people go crazy over this, spend an absurd amount of money, bad mouth each other, insult the other teams, over something where there isn’t a lacrosse living at the end of the road, makes no sense to me.


You make no sense to me.

What does making a living from a sport have to do with anything?? That’s completely inconsequential in youth sports.

You really think the end game for all things is based on only dollars? Friend, you have ALOT to learn in this life.

People play this game because they LOVE it, no strings attached. Players and fans are ibsessed with it. The sport is no less competitive or less serious because one can’t make a living from it. One has nothing to do with the other.

Wake up!
The point that was trying to be made was how insane a lot of parents get over this. Parents bad mouthing each other, bad mouthing other teams. This team is cheating, that team is cheating. He is a holdback, that guy is a double holdback. It goes on and on. Insanity, the money being spent is crazy as well. To do this over a 10 year youth lacrosse span, makes no sense. Especially being that there is no upside at the end of this. Kids play the game because they love it. I was referring to the crazy parents, not the kids or lacrosse fans.
NLF and my lacrosse tourneys have basically the fall finale event upcoming. Go to the tourney tent, demand to speak to the director and ask him his thoughts on a team playing with players that are not in the correct grade and what action does he planS on taking if proven to be factual.
NLF and my lacrosse tourneys have basically the fall finale event upcoming. Go to the tourney tent, demand to speak to the director and ask him his thoughts on a team playing with players that are not in the correct grade and what action does he planS on taking if proven to be factual...\


Grade is the Problem Jackalope! You can be in any grade at any age which is the entire issue. Complain about AGE not GRADE.
Hear people complaining about 8th graders yet 7th graders are older !
World Series does it right and has the entire 2025 landscape trying to play along.
Good luck this weekend sounds like you are going to need it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF and my lacrosse tourneys have basically the fall finale event upcoming. Go to the tourney tent, demand to speak to the director and ask him his thoughts on a team playing with players that are not in the correct grade and what action does he planS on taking if proven to be factual.


He will laugh at you! Bro. You don’t get it. These organizations are run by the clubs. The clubs are the ones behind the cheating because it’s all about the bottom line. The business of youth lacrosse is as corrupt as it gets. It’s all about big egos and big bucks for the owners. The bigger the person bag the bigger the profits. There is no accountability to any one or anything. Real trash.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.


Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.
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Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF and my lacrosse tourneys have basically the fall finale event upcoming. Go to the tourney tent, demand to speak to the director and ask him his thoughts on a team playing with players that are not in the correct grade and what action does he planS on taking if proven to be factual.


He will laugh at you! Bro. You don’t get it. These organizations are run by the clubs. The clubs are the ones behind the cheating because it’s all about the bottom line. The business of youth lacrosse is as corrupt as it gets. It’s all about big egos and big bucks for the owners. The bigger the person bag the bigger the profits. There is no accountability to any one or anything. Real trash.



Okay, if you’ll be laughed at and fixing the system is futile, then please let’s all shut up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.[/quote]

Oh yeah that one is laughable. I remember when he playing on Crush and JS and mom used to walk around bragging about how he was playing up two years. Except, he wasn’t. He is a hold back. Put a big althletic defender on him and you get what happened at the county championship - no goals. I was at that game, he got one assist. When the official tally came out in Newsday he had 4 assists in the game. Not corrupt? Laughable. Don’t believe me? There is video of that game. One actual assist and no goals but 4 assists recorded. It’s a shame because the boy is good but the attempts to elevate him even more to make Dad look good ruin it and make him a joke. He would have had four assists if the long pole didn’t beat him senseless every time he got the ball so lets just make it 4 😂 Okay Joe.
Why does anyone care about 91? Seriously...they are irrelevant in the Lax landscape
JS is a simply put a LOOSER
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS is a simply put a LOOSER


Considering he makes around half a million bucks a year on lacrosse, I don't think lost is the right word. Fraud probably is more accurate. A used car salesman. Stacked his team in the MLL with only one championship to show for it. Stacked his team at SB and never got anywhere in the NCAA championships. He's got two WSYL wins and a couple of DII championships. Beyond that, he's not a winning coach but he sure makes it LOOK like he is. Now cut the check!
And he cant afford a haircut for his Sibling? Im not buyin it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS is a simply put a LOOSER


Considering he makes around half a million bucks a year on lacrosse, I don't think lost is the right word. Fraud probably is more accurate. A used car salesman. Stacked his team in the MLL with only one championship to show for it. Stacked his team at SB and never got anywhere in the NCAA championships. He's got two WSYL wins and a couple of DII championships. Beyond that, he's not a winning coach but he sure makes it LOOK like he is. Now cut the check!

Sounds pretty impressive to me. What are your credentials/accolades?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.


Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.


Take a look at Wolfpack this year. Brought in 4 bigger older holdbacks. Look at Bandits. I think there are maybe 5 kids left from WSYL 2 years ago. Now that team stacked with holdbacks from 4 different states. Blast will be the same next year, except they are not now, nor have they ever been, in the same class as WP and Bandits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


YOU ARE A LIEING SACK OF LaxinItUp!!

MM’s kid has ABSOLUTELY NOT been playing up the last few years! He is a TRUE 2024! And still is! Has been since DAY ONE! NEVER has played up. Never!

Read the kids posts donkey! He is a 2024 who loves playing down on the 2025 team. His posts are NONSTOP.

TEAM 91 Maryland. The true cheater team of 2025.





For starters, why is a grown Meanyman following a 12/13 year old on social media? That’s just creepy. Secondly, quit hating on a kid who was willing/able to play up for eventually coming back down to his true grade. Just applaud him and move on....and don’t be a pedophile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.


YOU ARE A LIEING SACK OF LaxinItUp!!

MM’s kid has ABSOLUTELY NOT been playing up the last few years! He is a TRUE 2024! And still is! Has been since DAY ONE! NEVER has played up. Never!

Read the kids posts donkey! He is a 2024 who loves playing down on the 2025 team. His posts are NONSTOP.

TEAM 91 Maryland. The true cheater team of 2025.





For starters, why is a grown Meanyman following a 12/13 year old on social media? That’s just creepy. Secondly, quit hating on a kid who was willing/able to play up for eventually coming back down to his true grade. Just applaud him and move on....and don’t be a pedophile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The won...Period...Stop making excuses about older kids. This weekend confirmed what we all knew. Chuckster is the best, 91 came out of hibernation to show they are better than the Igloos of the world but still not on Par with The Expresses. And then there are "The rest" Older kids, younger kids, whatever... It is a fact.


And 91 MD showed that they are on par with Express. 1 point apart pretty much shows equal teams.


Oh really?????????

How many true 2024 players does Team 91 Maryland use?

Because MM’s kid loves to post on social media how he plays on the 2025 team. Posts come ... ALL THE TIME!

MM’s kid is on the 2024 Team 91 Maryland team!

Ask any kid you know to confirm this.

Team 91 Maryland are cheating DB’s to the core!



MM’s kid was on 24s and is now on 25s along with another boy on the team, but they had been playing up for the last few years. So, his son is a legit 25 and they will have their entire team for the World Series event.



My boy plays on a 2024 team and has been playing Team 91 and MM and MM’s kid since its inception. So when you say that MM’s kid has been playing up with the 2024’s the past couple of years, you are lying. I know the kid and MM. the kid is and always has been a 2024 on the team that MM coaches. You need to come up with some better lies that aren’t so easily verifiable. MM and his Team 91 Maryland would sell his mother for a new t-shirt. Real slimy guy and organization. As bad as it gets in youth lacrosse and that’s saying a lot.





Yes, you are correct that his son has been on the 2024 team since inception, until last year. 91 MD hasn’t been around as long as many of the other clubs, so I used the phrase “a few years”.

No reason to lie and you can verify that he is on the 25 team and on age, when they compete in the World Series events. Saying your 24 son has played against him for years, doesn’t discredit the fact that he was playing up or prove that he is a holdback.

And per your precious post, the fact that you follow a 7th graders social media is concerning on many levels.


donkey! Playing “up” in Maryland doesn’t exist. If by playing “up” you mean he is playing on age, then I understand the Maryland cheater logic. But in any other state, playing up means playing a grade higher than the grade he is in. Playing in the grade he is in, is called playing on age. Very confusing for a Maryland holdback parent I’m sure. And for the record, BS-boy, my kid sees the 2024 boys posts, which he shows to me. He’s annoyed, because the kid posts non-stop about playing down with 2025’s. But don’t believe me, ask your kid. I’m sure MM’s 2024 kid is on his feed too. Maryland cheater trash.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.[/quote]

Wow. Love anonymous sites... it’s story time!

How about we fact check that post:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does anyone care about 91? Seriously...they did are irrelevant in the Lax landscape


Wow. Congrats. densest post of the day. You out did yourself on that one! I’m no fan of 91 but they are the most dominant club in the country right now. Largest and most successful. #1 ranked club nationally. Irrelevant? Bro, you are irrelevant with a post like that. Next time, do your homework!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS is a simply put a LOOSER


Considering he makes around half a million bucks a year on lacrosse, I don't think lost is the right word. Fraud probably is more accurate. A used car salesman. Stacked his team in the MLL with only one championship to show for it. Stacked his team at SB and never got anywhere in the NCAA championships. He's got two WSYL wins and a couple of DII championships. Beyond that, he's not a winning coach but he sure makes it LOOK like he is. Now cut the check!

Sounds pretty impressive to me. What are your credentials/accolades?


Top D1 boys head coaches make 200K. Add his 91 checks to that, I don’t see him making anywhere near 500k. Maybe 300, all in? Still nothing to sneeze at though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.


Wow. Love anonymous sites... it’s story time!

How about we fact check that post:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island. [/quote]

Lies, lies, and more lies! They did break their own rule. They packed up and left at their own NLF Championships this summer. All you have to do is ask the teams they left stranded. You need to be stopped!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.


Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.


Take a look at Wolfpack this year. Brought in 4 bigger older holdbacks. Look at Bandits. I think there are maybe 5 kids left from WSYL 2 years ago. Now that team stacked with holdbacks from 4 different states. Blast will be the same next year, except they are not now, nor have they ever been, in the same class as WP and Bandits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.


Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.


Take a look at Wolfpack this year. Brought in 4 bigger older holdbacks. Look at Bandits. I think there are maybe 5 kids left from WSYL 2 years ago. Now that team stacked with holdbacks from 4 different states. Blast will be the same next year, except they are not now, nor have they ever been, in the same class as WP and Bandits.


FACT CHECK:

Wolfpack has two new starters this year. A pole and a midi, both from igloo. Rest of starters are same all-on-age players from last year that played in WSYL.

Ok. Feel free to continue with you 100% genuine BS. Maybe someone else can fact check the rest of your made up garbage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.


Wow. Love anonymous sites... it’s story time!

How about we fact check that post:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island. [/quote]

Dude you need to do your research before you write. You sound like a fool.

The Wolfpack did bail on there games when they lost against eclipse and had no chance at the championship.
It was the NLF National Club Championship in Massachusetts July 19-21 2019.
They bailed on their Saturday July 20 1:40pm game against NXT and their Sunday July 21 8am game against the Baltimore Crabs.
You need to go read last years 2024 thread. Its all over that.
They are now called by everyone Wolfpackupngo.
Really bad sportsmanship. Every other team was there and stayed. They were the only ones who bailed. Total stunads.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.


Wow. Love anonymous sites... it’s story time!

How about we fact check that post:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island.


Lies, lies, and more lies! They did break their own rule. They packed up and left at their own NLF Championships this summer. All you have to do is ask the teams they left stranded. You need to be stopped!

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Hey dingus I know this is clearly your oldest sons team but try to keep up. He’s referring to Tje crush/bandits coach’s son who is a holdback in smash and the ex crush now blaze ST As recruit who is at least a 1 year holdback.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS is a simply put a LOOSER


Considering he makes around half a million bucks a year on lacrosse, I don't think lost is the right word. Fraud probably is more accurate. A used car salesman. Stacked his team in the MLL with only one championship to show for it. Stacked his team at SB and never got anywhere in the NCAA championships. He's got two WSYL wins and a couple of DII championships. Beyond that, he's not a winning coach but he sure makes it LOOK like he is. Now cut the check!

Sounds pretty impressive to me. What are your credentials/accolades?


Top D1 boys head coaches make 200K. Add his 91 checks to that, I don’t see him making anywhere near 500k. Maybe 300, all in? Still nothing to sneeze at though.


Stony Brook is a state school and salaries are published. Last I looked, in 2015 they were paying him $204k. Add in the Lizards GM job, coaching 3 youth teams, profit sharing from 91, all the cash he fleeces from the 3 youth teams on box training, extra tournaments and “indoor space for practice” then add in the girls clinics he has every week as SB coach plus the girls tournaments and you’ll get to anywhere between $400-$500k. A good chunk of it is cash which is worth around 30% more since it’s tax free.
This can’t be an adult posting this response:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

WRONG - check the results of the 2024 bracket for the NLF Championship in Mass July, 19-21, 2019. Pretty classless move. That’s a tremendous display of poor character: leaving a tournament b/c you lose a game.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

This is true b/c the Pack Mommies complained and Mr. 91 himself needed to step up and save their sideline last year.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

You made a point that the whole organization “Stands Tall with Integrity and Character”. I believe the original poster was pointing out the obvious examples where you are mistaken. It seems like you only care about 1 team though, which limits your youth lacrosse understanding..

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Again, 91 has other teams at other ages, maybe spend some time doing research and you’ll not come off as such a 91 FANBOY.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

The only unverifiable BS here is your blind love for all things 91.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island. [/quote]

WOW. Step away from the keyboard Mr. 91 TOPFAN.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.



Funniest post ever - Kudos to 91 for being the only organization with integrity and character. This team you’re raving about left a tournament after losing a game on Saturday and PACK’d up with two games left to play against out-of-town teams. Integrity and character? Their 2 most promoted players: 1, a Coach’s son, 2022, turned 16 July before his Sophomore year, and the other, the #1 recruit in the country is fast approaching middle age - no one ever says how old he is. Let’s relax with the standing Tall with Integrity and Character talk - just work on getting your kid better.


Wow. Love anonymous sites... it’s story time!

How about we fact check that post:

1. 91 is a founding member of the NLF. The NLF does not allow teams to leave early from tournaments, as the result of being in a lost bracket. 91 isn’t allowed to break their own rule.

2. There is no coaches son that starts on WP and haven’t for several years. Watch WSYL championship game on YouTube to confirm.

3. No coaches sons are 2022’s or holdbacks for that matter. Watch the WSYL on YouTube to confirm they were there, which confirms they are not holdbacks or 2022’s.

4. The “#1 recruit in the country”... no clue who you are referring to, but there are no holdbacks on WP. Again, watch WSYL and confirm whatever player that you are referring to was there which confirms no holdbacks at all on the team which means no 16 year olds.

Now, wasn’t that fun and informative? All of your unverifiable BS was proven incorrect and completely verifiable to all that want to confirm it.

Back to the point. Standing tall (and alone) with integrity and character... Team 91 Long Island. [/quote]

Wow. You preach about fact checking?? Give it a try. Wolfpack has left 2 tournaments in the last year that I know of. They don’t like playing holdback teams and that’s why they picked up 3 this year. Not sure who the 4th is that the other poster mentioned, but it’s possible. Also, no one was talking about 22’s and #1 recruit and referencing WP. They were referring to a player on Smash. Read and research before you try to seem intelligent.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i guess 91 Blast is playing up in the '24 bracket at the fall classic. Avoiding the regulators perhaps?


They have to play 2024 from now on. They brought on 2024's after last weekends loss. WSYL eligible, but still 2024's. At least they're doing the right thing and playing in the correct bracket. It's the weakest 2024 bracket, but they wont be cheating. Lets see if they continue that all season. I suspect not.


Wow. 91 showing its integrity once again. That organization is definitely an anomaly in this dreadful business. Last year, the 2024 team went with one team all year long, whether WSYL or NLF or any other tournament, without a single holdback or guest player. I highly doubt there is any elite team anywhere that can make that claim. Most elite teams I know use 95% holdbacks, supplemented by players from same organization, but a grade older. In a very trashy business, Team 91 appears to be standing tall as the only organization with integrity and character. Kudos to them.


Take a look at Wolfpack this year. Brought in 4 bigger older holdbacks. Look at Bandits. I think there are maybe 5 kids left from WSYL 2 years ago. Now that team stacked with holdbacks from 4 different states. Blast will be the same next year, except they are not now, nor have they ever been, in the same class as WP and Bandits.


Thank you for clarifying that Blast is not in the same class with the previous years teams. They never have been. You would never see Bandits, Smash, Blaze, Crush, Ambush, Warriors, or Orange losing to town teams. 1st or 2nd teams, none of them have. Blast has lost to several, including one last year! That is laughable!
Wo cares what they did? They lost in the semis last weekend. So what? They will beat all of the other "A" teams on LI minus Exprss
I care about my son getting better, my son enjoying the game. That’s it. I can not believe how many grown adults care about the teams performance. It’s such a meaningless thing. How do people not grasp this. It means nothing. Do you people hear well. Yes it’s nice and fun to cheer for them to win, but it means nothing. How my kid performs, means a lot to me. Not if the team won 5 to 4, or lost 8 to 6. If his team goes 35 and 10 or 27 and 18 or 44 and 1. What does that mean, my sons youth team is better than your sons youth team.That doesn’t excite me much. Should I go to work and tell my friends how great my sons youth team is. Is that what this is about. Adults bragging to their friends how good their sons 12 year old lacrosse team is.
If a last is u13 for Denver. Good for them. You should go out there with the best team possible based on the rules. Not worry that somebody will get their feeling hurt, go back to PAL for hugs.. Sweet Lax and Prime Time are likely doing it. And any team that played Express this fall should do it or stay home and save the money. I don’t want to hear about the experience, this is about winning from the club directors on down.
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I care about my son getting better, my son enjoying the game. That’s it. I can not believe how many grown adults care about the teams performance. It’s such a meaningless thing. How do people not grasp this. It means nothing. Do you people hear well. Yes it’s nice and fun to cheer for them to win, but it means nothing. How my kid performs, means a lot to me. Not if the team won 5 to 4, or lost 8 to 6. If his team goes 35 and 10 or 27 and 18 or 44 and 1. What does that mean, my sons youth team is better than your sons youth team.That doesn’t excite me much. Should I go to work and tell my friends how great my sons youth team is. Is that what this is about. Adults bragging to their friends how good their sons 12 year old lacrosse team is.
That’s good for you Elizabeth Warren !! All sports are competitive!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I care about my son getting better, my son enjoying the game. That’s it. I can not believe how many grown adults care about the teams performance. It’s such a meaningless thing. How do people not grasp this. It means nothing. Do you people hear well. Yes it’s nice and fun to cheer for them to win, but it means nothing. How my kid performs, means a lot to me. Not if the team won 5 to 4, or lost 8 to 6. If his team goes 35 and 10 or 27 and 18 or 44 and 1. What does that mean, my sons youth team is better than your sons youth team.That doesn’t excite me much. Should I go to work and tell my friends how great my sons youth team is. Is that what this is about. Adults bragging to their friends how good their sons 12 year old lacrosse team is.


Well ofcourse we agree with your points. But you also have to understand the unintended purpose of this forum. It's entertaining to argue and debate with others about innocuous things about the sport with those who are in the same situation, in a harmless way. We all have youth lax players that we get joy (or aggravation) from watching them play this great sport. You shouldn't take this forum that seriously and you should mix it up a little. Try it.

PS.. you don't see the same parents here duking it out on lax fields during tournaments. My experience has mostly been positive when meeting parents on opposing teams. Football games on the other hand? that's a separate topic.

"peace and love.. peace and love"
Sports is competitive. I love the kids competing. The pathetic part is adults acting like 8th grade girls arguing over which team is better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sports is competitive. I love the kids competing. The pathetic part is adults acting like 8th grade girls arguing over which team is better.


Ok grandpa. Now that you told us it bothers you so much. We'll stop. But I do have one question for you. Why are you here everyday reading and responding to posts?
So where does everyone stand heading into winter training? Same as before it started? Any surprise teams? Were there any "They are who we thought they were" teams? Is everyone get ready for the big Denver push and budgeting accordingly?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So where does everyone stand heading into winter training? Same as before it started? Any surprise teams? Were there any "They are who we thought they were" teams? Is everyone get ready for the big Denver push and budgeting accordingly?


If I was a club director, I would be finding the best age eligible I could. Because no team on Long Island, a part from two clubs shouldn’t even consider Denver. I am not anti Denver, I like the tourney and the concept. Anything age based I would always support. However, the cost can’t be ignored, and if you’re going, your club should bring a team that has a chance to win. Sorry if young 2024s would push other kids off a roster, but this tourney is about winning, period.
I agree for the most part of what you said. The only part I don’t agree with, is clubs should pick up kids and bring a team that can win. To me that’s not a team. The team camaraderie that is built over the entire year is what makes it a team. Not picking 5 ringers putting on a temporary club jersey for 4 days. Nobody on the team knows those kids or parents, winning like that means nothing. Go with your team and give it your best or have the club choose not to go. That’s what I would do if I were in charge.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree for the most part of what you said. The only part I don’t agree with, is clubs should pick up kids and bring a team that can win. To me that’s not a team. The team camaraderie that is built over the entire year is what makes it a team. Not picking 5 ringers putting on a temporary club jersey for 4 days. Nobody on the team knows those kids or parents, winning like that means nothing. Go with your team and give it your best or have the club choose not to go. That’s what I would do if I were in charge.


I hear you and that is a valid point. But it’s the grade vs age mix which causes the problem. And clubs won’t go age based. The former director of PAL tried to get PAL to go age when he ran Suffolk PAL and they.... turned it down. If PAL went age the rest would fall in line over time. But PAL is run by serve servers obviously in my opinion. If they really wanted to make a difference they would go age based. That’s why PAL is a waste of time they do nothing to help or promote the game. And the joke is they subscribe to US lacrosse which supports age. Town teams should just play together in tourneys and scrap PAL, as it has little value anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.



Would have liked to see them play the Regulators. Don't know the other teams.
They are avoiding the regulators becasue they lost to CSH town team last year and they know that the regulators are an even better version of that CSH team being that they are primarily CSH kids with some additional kids from tryouts . Very plain and simple.to see the 91 way. Avoid, avoid , beat weak teams and call ourselves champs . Sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.



Would have liked to see them play the Regulators. Don't know the other teams.


The Regulators didn't have a great Fall season, they actually lost more games than they won. Heard some of the players were looking elsewhere. I would be surprised if the team made it through the winter.
Regulators? Ducking? Come on, that’s a joke, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.




Are they the first 91 team to use older kids? I think they are. That speaks volumes to the faith the directors have in that team. With good reason.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.




Are they the first 91 team to use older kids? I think they are. That speaks volumes to the faith the directors have in that team. With good reason.


Not a 91 parent. But clearly you have not read this thread at all.plenty of 2025 teams have 2024s on their team this year who meet the WSYL guidelines. And they have all used these players ib tournaments this fall in the 2025 bracket. They didnt even pmay up into the 2024 bracket. Look at R$sh and Rebels for example.
Here's the bottom line , another 91 owned tournament where they lines up the 2025 with weak 2024 teams . Go look at the brackets and even a blind man can see it . Same garbage different day from the 91 corporate parent and coaches . You want to be taken seriously then go beat some good teams , you're not fooling anyone with this nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here's the bottom line , another 91 owned tournament where they lines up the 2025 with weak 2024 teams . Go look at the brackets and even a blind man can see it . Same garbage different day from the 91 corporate parent and coaches . You want to be taken seriously then go beat some good teams , you're not fooling anyone with this nonsense.


Honestly there were not many good teams in this tournament for 2024 except Legact Taz and 91 Tristate Select. And each of those were in seperate pools from each other. What I dont understand is why there was no bracket game where winners of the pools played each other? What is the deal with that?
The fact that you put legacy taz and 91 tristate in the same sentence tells me your either a stunad or a tristate parent. Edge , lb3 thunder would utterly destroy 91 tristate
Exactly my point . They could have gone into the 2025 bracket and at least played eclipse and regulators . Nope , played in 2024 and still didn't have the best two teams in 2024. Why? Becasue it's intentional , they can do what they want because they own the tournament. So let's okay weak teams and win it all to say " we played up Into 2024 and won "what a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here's the bottom line , another 91 owned tournament where they lines up the 2025 with weak 2024 teams . Go look at the brackets and even a blind man can see it . Same garbage different day from the 91 corporate parent and coaches . You want to be taken seriously then go beat some good teams , you're not fooling anyone with this nonsense.


Honestly there were not many good teams in this tournament for 2024 except Legact Taz and 91 Tristate Select. And each of those were in seperate pools from each other. What I dont understand is why there was no bracket game where winners of the pools played each other? What is the deal with that?


It's simply to preserve winning record. I was watching some of the games and that entire 2024 bracket was a joke.
Exactly my point. Why not play the only two good teams ? To preserve a winning record lol, against who ? Horrible teams ? Makes no sense but yet it really does make sense because it’s the kind of thing that 91 does all the time . Weak tournaments and set them up against the weaker teams , then post stuff all over the place saying that they never lost a game . Lol what a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly my point. Why not play the only two good teams ? To preserve a winning record lol, against who ? Horrible teams ? Makes no sense but yet it really does make sense because it’s the kind of thing that 91 does all the time . Weak tournaments and set them up against the weaker teams , then post stuff all over the place saying that they never lost a game . Lol what a joke


Bro. Calm down with the conspiracy theories. It’s real simple. 91 is using their WSYL team which has a 2024 player. So they are doing the right thing (gasp) and playing in the 24 bracket. There aren’t many decent 24 teams in the tourney because they are all in the NLF tourney which is Sunday. That’s it. The boring facts. No drama, except for when the botc keyboard jockey queens have nothing better to do. Hey, how about doing something productive with your time, like finding a job. Heard BK was looking for fry cooks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow that's amazing , team 91 2025 playing up into the 2024 bracket when they can't even handle the teams in the 2025 bracket . Typical 91 garbage , let's play them up into a weak class against weak competition so we can say that we played up but instead they are just avoiding good teams in 2025 so they're not embarrassed at their own tournament. Pathetic. Go look at the teams they're playing in the 2024 bracket lol. What a sad and pathetic club,, avoiding good competition and playing up into a horrible bracket to say " we play up a year " hahahaha.


What good competition are they avoiding? You have no idea what any of those 24 teams will look like tomorrow, But you do know there is no reason to play any of those 2025 teams. Bash all you want, but they are using a 2024 who will be on their WS team so they are doing what they should By playing 2024. They surely do not deserve a medal, but come on, you know better.



Would have liked to see them play the Regulators. Don't know the other teams.


The Regulators didn't have a great Fall season, they actually lost more games than they won. Heard some of the players were looking elsewhere. I would be surprised if the team made it through the winter.


Get ready to be surprised Mrs Anonymous who doesn't really know anything about this team.
Typical 91 trash dad, when someone tells it like it is they don't like it so they resort to personal.insults. you know hit the nail on the head when the white trash dad's from 91 have no answers but insults . Why don't you relax and go talk about how big the Hawks were last week lol
Hey Regulator Dad-If you want to play 91 so badly, put your boys in the 2024 bracket or shut it. Not sure why you’re so angry. Only explanation is your kid tried out and was cut. And if that isn’t the reason, you’re just a psycho.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you put legacy taz and 91 tristate in the same sentence tells me your either a stunad or a tristate parent. Edge , lb3 thunder would utterly destroy 91 tristate


Bud you need help. Pick up the phone, call and make an appointment today. Your wife and kids are too scared to tell you, but they want too. Do it now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Are they the first 91 team to use older kids? I think they are. That speaks volumes to the faith the directors have in that team. With good reason.


Not a 91 parent. But clearly you have not read this thread at all.plenty of 2025 teams have 2024s on their team this year who meet the WSYL guidelines. And they have all used these players ib tournaments this fall in the 2025 bracket. They didnt even pmay up into the 2024 bracket. Look at R$sh and Rebels for example.


First 91 team. Not first team ever.
Regulators? That’s funny stuff.

They did not win their bracket, did they?

Sometimes you have to handle your own business before talking about what others are doing.
Not sure who your referring to but I'm not a regulators dad. But if you were to look at the brackets and have half of a brain you could plainly see that 91 avoided the only 2 2024 respectable teams . Yes the regulators lost one game but it was to eclipse which is a great team . Who exactly did team 91 play? 3 horrible teams . So shut your mouth, you make no sense. You're the only one dense enough to keep drinking the 91 Kool aid . Nothing but trash with a big mouth .
I guess by "handle your own business " you mean being owned by dynamic who controls the tournaments and outs you against weak teams . What a jack butt . Why don't you give us the names of the teams you have beat ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess by "handle your own business " you mean being owned by dynamic who controls the tournaments and outs you against weak teams . What a jack butt . Why don't you give us the names of the teams you have beat ?


I haven’t beaten anyone. 91 2025 has definite beaten Eclipse and every other team in 2025 playing yesterday that they have faced in the past 12 months. They’ve also beaten everyone that was in DE last week at one point over the last year including HHH, Laxachussets, Primetime, Hawks, 91 MD and Express. That’s beating what most would call the best of the best. Semi finals at NLF in August and NALF this fall. Some terribly embarrassing losses, yup, but don’t be such a hater Regulator Dad. I know 91 posts their team schedules on the web pages on a team by team basis. So you can make your coaches line you up for a game at one of those events. Then the boys can put up or shut up.
Fact check, 91 has never beaten the Hawks or express . Keep dreaming
Didn’t 91 lose to Roar last summer?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact check, 91 has never beaten the Hawks or express . Keep dreaming


Team 91 beat Hawks in July at Naptown 6-5. Tourney Machine is my friend. Now admit you are wrong and say you are sorry.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn’t 91 lose to Roar last summer?


We know from the TM that Roar beat them at Laxfest so good on them, but they are one of the bad losses. Another bad one was Madlax in the semi at NLF so they missed another shot at the Chuck. Let’s be honest, 91 wasn't ducking the regulators, who just lost to Force and Primetime at Tristar. In past years, the Rush/Ducks Dads were itching to give 91 a real try. It didn’t work out so well for them. Regulator should keep an eye out for the schedule release on the 91 Site. Or you can give the WSYL qualifiers a go. There will be a nice line up including 91. Heck, just tell the regulators coaches you want your boys to jump over 91 and take a run at Express if your fired up.
For the 91 dad.....if your team is so good and beat Express and the Hawks why are they ranked 3rd (which by the way in my opinion is way too high for your team) 91 probably has a back channel for the rankings too, did dynamic buy us lacrosse as well hahahaha
I wouldn’t waste your energy worrying about 91.They’ll win tourneys and they may lose a few, so what. They are definitely a top tier team, whether they lost to a team they shouldn’t have or not.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact check, 91 has never beaten the Hawks or express . Keep dreaming

91 has definitely beaten Express_Ch a few times in the past. It happens.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact check, 91 has never beaten the Hawks or express . Keep dreaming

91 has definitely beaten Express_Ch a few times in the past. It happens.


Fake news. What specific tournament?
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??
Are you serious, travel outside LI for box lacrosse? Why don't you take your son skiing or to a movie instead of shoving lax down his throat. Clown.





Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the 91 dad.....if your team is so good and beat Express and the Hawks why are they ranked 3rd (which by the way in my opinion is way too high for your team) 91 probably has a back channel for the rankings too, did dynamic buy us lacrosse as well hahahaha


US Club Lax rankings are compiled out of NJ by an individual affiliated w/ 91 New Jersey. This has been widely discussed on these boards. Obviously, there is a 91 bias in all these rankings. It’s all based on a flawed strength of schedule algorithm which allows a crappy team to get destroyed by Top teams and still jump in the rankings b/c of their opponent’s higher ranking. There are no adjustments for blowout losses to those teams. Basically, if you play a higher ranked team, you’ll advance in the rankings.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you serious, travel outside LI for box lacrosse? Why don't you take your son skiing or to a movie instead of shoving lax down his throat. Clown.





You know you sound like a complete stunad. Get some help.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the 91 dad.....if your team is so good and beat Express and the Hawks why are they ranked 3rd (which by the way in my opinion is way too high for your team) 91 probably has a back channel for the rankings too, did dynamic buy us lacrosse as well hahahaha


US Club Lax rankings are compiled out of NJ by an individual affiliated w/ 91 New Jersey. This has been widely discussed on these boards. Obviously, there is a 91 bias in all these rankings. It’s all based on a flawed strength of schedule algorithm which allows a crappy team to get destroyed by Top teams and still jump in the rankings b/c of their opponent’s higher ranking. There are no adjustments for blowout losses to those teams. Basically, if you play a higher ranked team, you’ll advance in the rankings.


Not sure he has a 91 affiliation, he coaches a local Jersey Shore team that is a feeder program for a high school team. Neither 91 or LE attend the US Club Lax tournaments.

Not to stick up for the guy but he is doing the best he can. He is giving us lax losers something to complain about in Nov. If you don't like it, create your own!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact check, 91 has never beaten the Hawks or express . Keep dreaming

91 has definitely beaten Express_Ch a few times in the past. It happens.


Fake news. What specific tournament?


Chang’s own tournament, in OT. I know it happens to the best.
And Express lost to Sweetlax at Naptown too. Hey, they are 12 (mostly).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


IBL was a ripoff. The regular instructors played lacrosse but none the of them ipayed Box Lacrosse. They did have tournaments ala carte but the teams were pre picked and many of the boys on the tournament teams were not involved in the training sessions where they were supposedly evaluating the field players for the teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


IBL was a ripoff. The regular instructors played lacrosse but none the of them ipayed Box Lacrosse. They did have tournaments ala carte but the teams were pre picked and many of the boys on the tournament teams were not involved in the training sessions where they were supposedly evaluating the field players for the teams.


Yup been that way since the program started in 2018. CoachL you wont see. He lives in Colorado. His focus is his 6 star lacrosse club program there. He is just using his name to make money through IBL. Its ridiculoys that he is listed as coach on the website.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.


$500 for a season ticket is assuming Island Box is going to get you the most expensive season tickets. I got a hunch that the 1 season ticket you're getting for being in the Riptide Box league (which then you'll have to go and buy another season ticket to with your son) will be the cheaper season ticket package, which is $180
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.


$500 for a season ticket is assuming Island Box is going to get you the most expensive season tickets. I got a hunch that the 1 season ticket you're getting for being in the Riptide Box league (which then you'll have to go and buy another season ticket to with your son) will be the cheaper season ticket package, which is $180


When last I looked and it could have changed, to get into the Riptide league you had to buy 2 tickets at $288 each. IBL could have a different deal, I don’t know, I didn’t look at it that closely.
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Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.


$500 for a season ticket is assuming Island Box is going to get you the most expensive season tickets. I got a hunch that the 1 season ticket you're getting for being in the Riptide Box league (which then you'll have to go and buy another season ticket to with your son) will be the cheaper season ticket package, which is $180


When last I looked and it could have changed, to get into the Riptide league you had to buy 2 tickets at $288 each. IBL could have a different deal, I don’t know, I didn’t look at it that closely.


If you enter the Riptide league as a Free Agent ($600 cost) you get the 2 season tickets. Below is copy/paste from the Island Box website:

If selected Team tuition of $650 includes:

- Rip Tide Tri State Box Premier League Played at Coliseum on Riptide floor, plus 1 season ticket to all NY Riptide games with all the benefits of a Riptide season ticket holder and player in the Tri-state Box Premier League
- Uniforms Supplied for tournaments and games
- 6 weeks of team practice
- USBOXLA Tournament Tentative date: 2/22/20 at Sportime Bethpage ( more tournaments could be added a la carte.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.


$500 for a season ticket is assuming Island Box is going to get you the most expensive season tickets. I got a hunch that the 1 season ticket you're getting for being in the Riptide Box league (which then you'll have to go and buy another season ticket to with your son) will be the cheaper season ticket package, which is $180


When last I looked and it could have changed, to get into the Riptide league you had to buy 2 tickets at $288 each. IBL could have a different deal, I don’t know, I didn’t look at it that closely.


FLG also does a box lacrosse program. It charges $400 and that includes 8 sessions plus 2 tickets to riptide.
And the riptide players are helping to coach the program.
That seems a lot better than what IBL is offering. They dont mention other tournaments. They just seem to have their own league play and championship within the program.
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No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


For box on LI its either IBL or NOTB. Regarding the $650 price tag at IBL for league play, that is because it includes season tickets to the Riptide. In order to enter in the Riptide youth box league, you have to buy the tickets. They would sell on their own for about $500. IBL is tacking on $150 which seems pretty reasonable. The Riptide youth league has their games at Nassau Collesium which is pretty cool assuming it gets off the ground.

IBL had an issue where the director got a DWI or similar and wasn't able to travel to NY. Not exactly a bait and switch but the result was the same, no legit box coach. It remains to be seen whether he'll be there this year. If he is, he's excellent. Overall, still decent quality training without him and they do go to real box tournaments which is great. Also, the number of boys in their practices is manageable numbers. The facility isn't great. IBL only has one real rink when they can get it and one sort of practice rink that really isn't good. Their in house tournament is good and has certified box officials.

NOTB training is very good overall. They have real Canadians who know the game inside and out - and more than one of them. They also have a lot more kids, therefore fewer reps. Their facility is much nicer and you have two full-size rinks. NOTBs in house tournament is not as good, I didn't notice the chaos the other poster mentioned, but the officials are really not box officials and no shot clock which is annoying. NOTB does not go to other tournaments, it is strictly a clinic and then one inhouse tournament.

To sum it all up: if you're looking for your son to play box tournaments and he already has some background in it, IBL is probably better with the caveat that you do have to make the team to actually play in tournaments. If you're looking for your son to learn box skills and dont care about tournaments then NOTB is probably better.

Hope that helps.


$500 for a season ticket is assuming Island Box is going to get you the most expensive season tickets. I got a hunch that the 1 season ticket you're getting for being in the Riptide Box league (which then you'll have to go and buy another season ticket to with your son) will be the cheaper season ticket package, which is $180


When last I looked and it could have changed, to get into the Riptide league you had to buy 2 tickets at $288 each. IBL could have a different deal, I don’t know, I didn’t look at it that closely.


If you enter the Riptide league as a Free Agent ($600 cost) you get the 2 season tickets. Below is copy/paste from the Island Box website:

If selected Team tuition of $650 includes:

- Rip Tide Tri State Box Premier League Played at Coliseum on Riptide floor, plus 1 season ticket to all NY Riptide games with all the benefits of a Riptide season ticket holder and player in the Tri-state Box Premier League
- Uniforms Supplied for tournaments and games
- 6 weeks of team practice
- USBOXLA Tournament Tentative date: 2/22/20 at Sportime Bethpage ( more tournaments could be added a la carte.)


But if you are part of that Riptide premier league why would you only get 1 ticket. Riptide is clear on their weboage that each player gets 2 tickets.

https://newyorkriptide.com/box-league/

I bet you they are are splitting the league cost of $500 between 2 players. So each player only gets to play 2 or 3 games in the Riptide league instead of 5.
I would ask a lot more questions begore signing up for IBL.

And CoachL had that dwi accident back in the first year of the program 2017-18. But he wasnt showing up in 2018-19 either with no excuse. He is busy with his Colorado program. He is not coming here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


IBL was a ripoff. The regular instructors played lacrosse but none the of them ipayed Box Lacrosse. They did have tournaments ala carte but the teams were pre picked and many of the boys on the tournament teams were not involved in the training sessions where they were supposedly evaluating the field players for the teams.


Yup been that way since the program started in 2018. CoachL you wont see. He lives in Colorado. His focus is his 6 star lacrosse club program there. He is just using his name. Its ridiculoys that he is listed as coach on the website.


You are correct. The organization is driven behind the scenes by JC and his scrupulous cronies. The box player they are pitching is a scam, and no they don't teach real box. Run as far away as you can.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Changing the topic.
Lets talk box lacrosse.
Was looking at Island box. But was interested in tournament level, not just training.
But dont understand how your getting anything for $650 plus the $50 tryout fee.
You get the same six 1 hour practices as the $250 training program and one local tournament run by them. Then says more tournaments "could" be added "alacarte".
So all I get for paying another $450- is a local tournament.

Seems like a ripoff.

Anyone know of any better programs which actually do tournaments outside of Long Island as well??


No reason to leave LI but stay away from Island Box unless you want to deal with the bait and switch with a director/coach that you'll never see, a clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid to be the center of attention and being lied to about everything.
Go take a look at NOTB instead...much better quality of training and tournament play


Someone else I know told me they had the same experience with Island Box. Pretty much what you described. Which makes me even more wary of Island Box when I consider that and see an inflated price along with that.
But I also tried NOTB and wasnt impressed at the level of instruction there. And thought tournament was really disorganized.
Have seen youth box tournaments outside Long Island and they are night and day to what I saw here.
Are there any other options?


IBL was a ripoff. The regular instructors played lacrosse but none the of them ipayed Box Lacrosse. They did have tournaments ala carte but the teams were pre picked and many of the boys on the tournament teams were not involved in the training sessions where they were supposedly evaluating the field players for the teams.


Yup been that way since the program started in 2018. CoachL you wont see. He lives in Colorado. His focus is his 6 star lacrosse club program there. He is just using his name. Its ridiculoys that he is listed as coach on the website.


You are correct. The organization is driven behind the scenes by JC and his scrupulous cronies. The box player they are pitching is a scam, and no they don't teach real box. Run as far away as you can


Is the clueless PAL coach calling the shots for his kid have a first name that starts with T and rhymes with sony. If so I would stay way clear of that program.
Think about it, a guy running a program in Long Island, lives in Colorado. Anyone who signs up for this, thinking that the main guy will be there regularly, will probably be disappointed. All the advertisements, emails, promises sound great, then your payment is made, then well you know how it goes after check is written. Complete mess.
IBL was a ripoff. The regular instructors played lacrosse but none the of them ipayed Box Lacrosse. They did have tournaments ala carte but the teams were pre picked and many of the boys on the tournament teams were not involved in the training sessions where they were supposedly evaluating the field players for the teams.
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Yup been that way since the program started in 2018. CoachL you wont see. He lives in CO. His focus is his 6 star lacrosse club program there. He is just using his name. Its ridiculoys that he is listed as coach on the website.[/quote]

You are correct. The organization is driven behind the scenes by JC and his scrupulous cronies. The box player they are pitching is a scam, and no they don't teach real box. Run as far away as you can.[/quote]

Yes, Very shady and non-transparent. They do not know how to play Box.
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.
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Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


Box lacrosse is more fun for kids than field lacrosse. It's better to watch too. If my kids had to choose only to play one, it would be box.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


Coach Tierney is that you?

PS nobody cares about your recommendation. I will bet the house that you dont practice what you preach. My bet is your son cant handle box, too physical
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Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


Of course using a rebounder and net or actually just reps against a wall should be done by kids who are serious about getting better at lacrosse. That should be part of the kids regular training routine. However, that doesnt discount the value of clinics or box. Im not so into these pop up clinics. But there are places like athlete zone etc where you can purchase packages and work in clinics on specific skills. And get the reps in with someone experienced in lacrosse in order to correct errors and improve your skills. Box besides being fun, my kid really enjoys it, is more than just speed. Its being able to make quick decisions and move that ball fast in a real game scenario. You dont get that from a wall, net or rebounder. And you wont get the intensity and time limits in a real game of field lacrosse that you get from box.
Its not that what you suggest is not necessary for any lacrosse player. But it doesnt replace what kids learn at clinics and box either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


You've obviously never played/seen box lacrosse or box lacrosse training sessions. They are exponentially more effective than a a rebounder and shooting solo. Kids get more touches in an hour long box session than they would practicing in the backyard. Furthermore, they will get an intense cardio workout, will learn how to make quick passes in tight spaces and shoot at a drastically smaller target. Couple those points with the fact that most college programs are having their players practice box lacrosse and you have a recipe for increased skill, ability and fun. It's no coincidence that the clubs that are most successful see the benefits of box lacrosse and have their teams practicing it weekly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


You've obviously never played/seen box lacrosse or box lacrosse training sessions. They are exponentially more effective than a a rebounder and shooting solo. Kids get more touches in an hour long box session than they would practicing in the backyard. Furthermore, they will get an intense cardio workout, will learn how to make quick passes in tight spaces and shoot at a drastically smaller target. Couple those points with the fact that most college programs are having their players practice box lacrosse and you have a recipe for increased skill, ability and fun. It's no coincidence that the clubs that are most successful see the benefits of box lacrosse and have their teams practicing it weekly.


Yeah but that duffus has a secret weapon. A training lace for his son. What's a training lace again? Im asking for a friend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


You've obviously never played/seen box lacrosse or box lacrosse training sessions. They are exponentially more effective than a a rebounder and shooting solo. Kids get more touches in an hour long box session than they would practicing in the backyard. Furthermore, they will get an intense cardio workout, will learn how to make quick passes in tight spaces and shoot at a drastically smaller target. Couple those points with the fact that most college programs are having their players practice box lacrosse and you have a recipe for increased skill, ability and fun. It's no coincidence that the clubs that are most successful see the benefits of box lacrosse and have their teams practicing it weekly.


Yeah but that duffus has a secret weapon. A training lace for his son. What's a training lace again? Im asking for a friend.


I dont agree with original poster when he discounts the value of clinics and box.
But dude you sound like an ignorant fool.
Google training lace lacrosse. You will see what it is and plenty of videos shoeing how it can be used for training and wall ball.
Really you should not post when you dont know what you are talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


You've obviously never played/seen box lacrosse or box lacrosse training sessions. They are exponentially more effective than a a rebounder and shooting solo. Kids get more touches in an hour long box session than they would practicing in the backyard. Furthermore, they will get an intense cardio workout, will learn how to make quick passes in tight spaces and shoot at a drastically smaller target. Couple those points with the fact that most college programs are having their players practice box lacrosse and you have a recipe for increased skill, ability and fun. It's no coincidence that the clubs that are most successful see the benefits of box lacrosse and have their teams practicing it weekly.


Yeah but that duffus has a secret weapon. A training lace for his son. What's a training lace again? Im asking for a friend.


I think it’s an adult toy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


You've obviously never played/seen box lacrosse or box lacrosse training sessions. They are exponentially more effective than a a rebounder and shooting solo. Kids get more touches in an hour long box session than they would practicing in the backyard. Furthermore, they will get an intense cardio workout, will learn how to make quick passes in tight spaces and shoot at a drastically smaller target. Couple those points with the fact that most college programs are having their players practice box lacrosse and you have a recipe for increased skill, ability and fun. It's no coincidence that the clubs that are most successful see the benefits of box lacrosse and have their teams practicing it weekly.


I agree with everything you say about box lacrosse, except how its better than a rebounder or wall ball etc...
Its not better just different. If you want to excel at box you are using rebounder and wall regularly as well.
But then again, there are kids that you may find it impossible to get to train doing repetitive reps. Yet they love box. And it defenitely helps all kids with their stick skills. Although ultimately the more you train using a variety of methods including reps and box and clinics, the better he will get.
No matter what I agree box is a great way for kids to improve their lacrosse skills. And its fun. You cant beat that.
Wow, I am glad such great responses. Thanks all for sharing your thoughts. Now we know how to get opinions.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


If you’d ever been to a box practice, you’d know wall ball off the boards is a standard part of the warmup. So is wall ball on the move, and you can’t do that on a rebounder.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop box talk, stop winter skills clinics nonsense. Buy a rebounder, a training lace, a net and a bucket of balls. Have your son or daughter do a 100 reps with each hand on the rebounder and 50 shots with each hand. That’s probably going to yield better results than most clinics or box training thing out there in my opinion. Not anti clinic or will I say money grab. Just being honest that I think this so much better.


If you’d ever been to a box practice, you’d know wall ball off the boards is a standard part of the warmup. So is wall ball on the move, and you can’t do that on a rebounder.


But if your son can’t catch and throw don’t sign up for box. Hit the rebounder.
I just take a loook once in a while at the younger grades to see if the parents are as crazy as I once was about this sport, and do yourself a favor and stop, stop, stop! My son is a 2022 kid, once of the most talented years for lax kids on the island! Would play Goalie for half the game then run off the field change his equipment and play middle or attack the second half. Colleges wanted him to commit at this grade and thank god we said no because he's played so much indoor lax, so much box, so much everything lacrosse that now he's done with it! The last few years a large amount of kids in colleg are either dropping down to D3 or quitting lax all together! Do your kid a favor and give him a break! Let him take a couple of months off in the winter!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just take a loook once in a while at the younger grades to see if the parents are as crazy as I once was about this sport, and do yourself a favor and stop, stop, stop! My son is a 2022 kid, once of the most talented years for lax kids on the island! Would play Goalie for half the game then run off the field change his equipment and play middle or attack the second half. Colleges wanted him to commit at this grade and thank god we said no because he's played so much indoor lax, so much box, so much everything lacrosse that now he's done with it! The last few years a large amount of kids in colleg are either dropping down to D3 or quitting lax all together! Do your kid a favor and give him a break! Let him take a couple of months off in the winter!


Exactly, stop trying to fill up weekends. Go play basketball or something to stay active. If your team has a weekly team practice, great. Work on the stick during the week and all good. Slow down with the clinics and everything else for shooting or stick skills. If your kid wants clinics set it up with kids on the same ability level so the drills can really flow and maximize the value. Doing clinics with disparate ability lessens the value.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just take a loook once in a while at the younger grades to see if the parents are as crazy as I once was about this sport, and do yourself a favor and stop, stop, stop! My son is a 2022 kid, once of the most talented years for lax kids on the island! Would play Goalie for half the game then run off the field change his equipment and play middle or attack the second half. Colleges wanted him to commit at this grade and thank god we said no because he's played so much indoor lax, so much box, so much everything lacrosse that now he's done with it! The last few years a large amount of kids in colleg are either dropping down to D3 or quitting lax all together! Do your kid a favor and give him a break! Let him take a couple of months off in the winter!


Every now and then an insightful post. A nugget in otherwise vapid forums. ty
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Were you there? Or just lustfully following them on Tourney Machine?

It seems like that you could use that time more productively. I’d say you should use it playing with your kid, but don’t mess him up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Not a 91 parent either. Why are there constant posts about teams loses. I don’t mind commenting on a loss, and have. But some of the time is like some enjoy a team losing that they have nothing to do with. I don’t understand that. Even if you don’t like an organization, or your son was cut, just chill. 91 at this age is a very good team, they proved that in Delaware. Will they lose games in 2020, yes. But they’ll win a lot more in 2020.
This board has lost its luster....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


91 2025 kids playing in a 24/25 bracket. Got beat in their 4th game by a full 24 squad. Kids played great and just got beat by a bigger and faster team. Al in all a successful day. Ride home absolutely stunk with the weather. Very happy all are home safe and the kids get to fight another day.

Now this troll on the other hand had his phone checking Tourney Machine so often that he was able to post IMMEDIATELY. What a lost!

And if you don’t know already, the boys are playing next weekend too. So the troll can start checking for the schedule now. If you need a new extended life battery pack for your phone so you don’t miss an update, there is a huge sale for Black Friday at the Mall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


This is a typical excuse of someone who just wants to bash on other teams for no real reason.
Not a parent of a 91 kid. You can believe what you want.
But your just looking like a bigger fool with each response.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


This is a typical excuse of someone who just wants to bash on other teams for no real reason.
Not a parent of a 91 kid. You can believe what you want.
But your just looking like a bigger fool with each response.


I thought 91 had to play 2024 divisions this year because they have a bunch of 24’s for the WSYL?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


91 2025 kids playing in a 24/25 bracket. Got beat in their 4th game by a full 24 squad. Kids played great and just got beat by a bigger and faster team. Al in all a successful day. Ride home absolutely stunk with the weather. Very happy all are home safe and the kids get to fight another day.

Now this troll on the other hand had his phone checking Tourney Machine so often that he was able to post IMMEDIATELY. What a lost!

And if you don’t know already, the boys are playing next weekend too. So the troll can start checking for the schedule now. If you need a new extended life battery pack for your phone so you don’t miss an update, there is a huge sale for Black Friday at the Mall.


Perfect post. I wish the boys the best of luck and since they are not playing my sons team, I hope they win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


This is a typical excuse of someone who just wants to bash on other teams for no real reason.
Not a parent of a 91 kid. You can believe what you want.
But your just looking like a bigger fool with each response.


I thought 91 had to play 2024 divisions this year because they have a bunch of 24’s for the WSYL?


I believe that is correct. I’m not sure how that is going to go during spring and summer tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In other news, the Mighty 91 AAAA host to the NH Tomahawks this weekend. Can that team be any more inconsistent? Box or field, I don’t care. It seems like they’re a heck of a lot closer to Rebels and Rupoop than Express at this point.


Not a 91 parent but were you there???
1. This was a 2024/2025 division. So this could easily have been one of 91s 2024 teams. Usually if its 2025 Okeefe is used in the name. Since he is their coach for box.
2. Or it could be 2024 nh tomahawks playing 2025 91 team. So you cant be sure of the scenario.
3. This was box not field. Okeefe is probably one of the best box coaches on LI. But Long Island still lags behind other areas as far as box. So you cant compare 91 being beat in box to field. Express doesnt even play box. And when some of the kids have on Express, they have been beat also. There are different rules and its another skill set.
4. It looks like that was the 4th game for 91 while nh tomahawks that was 3rd and final game. That makes a difference, especially in box because of how fast it moves. Kids get exhausted fast.

Not a 91 parent, and not a fan of them. But if you have a criticism it shoukd be a valid one.


Boy, that's a lot of excuses for someone who's not a 91 parent. Are you saying that NH is a box lacrosse mecca? I hnestly have no idea what tournament you're talking about, but clearly you are too close to it to not be a parent


91 2025 kids playing in a 24/25 bracket. Got beat in their 4th game by a full 24 squad. Kids played great and just got beat by a bigger and faster team. Al in all a successful day. Ride home absolutely stunk with the weather. Very happy all are home safe and the kids get to fight another day.

Now this troll on the other hand had his phone checking Tourney Machine so often that he was able to post IMMEDIATELY. What a lost!

And if you don’t know already, the boys are playing next weekend too. So the troll can start checking for the schedule now. If you need a new extended life battery pack for your phone so you don’t miss an update, there is a huge sale for Black Friday at the Mall.


Perfect post. I wish the boys the best of luck and since they are not playing my sons team, I hope they win.


LOL! You're all nuts! The original poster, the "not a 91 parent" parents, the actual 91 parents; who cares!! You're all lying anyway!
Cheating butt cheaters! A lot of teams using 2024's this year. Get with the program.
91 played in the 24/25 division with 25/26 players. Their single 24 was not there this weekend. Keep hating, buddy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played in the 24/25 division with 25/26 players. Their single 24 was not there this weekend. Keep hating, buddy.


By single, you must mean not married, because there’s definitely more than one 2024. And there are zero 2026’s. You are really becoming less plausible with each response. To quote Hamlet, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”.
WHO CARES ABOUT 91? Seriously....
Nobody should care about any team, except their son’s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played in the 24/25 division with 25/26 players. Their single 24 was not there this weekend. Keep hating, buddy.


By single, you must mean not married, because there’s definitely more than one 2024. And there are zero 2026’s. You are really becoming less plausible with each response. To quote Hamlet, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”.


Just a heads up. My kid is not on 91 but even I know there is a 2026 on the team. And he has been on it for years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 played in the 24/25 division with 25/26 players. Their single 24 was not there this weekend. Keep hating, buddy.


By single, you must mean not married, because there’s definitely more than one 2024. And there are zero 2026’s. You are really becoming less plausible with each response. To quote Hamlet, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”.


You are no Shakespeare, Troll.

Now go back to work, there’s a car out at the full serve island.
Not a 91 parent, but that team is going to shock everyone at the World Series.
Shock as in meaning wet the bed? They are gong to get spanked. It wouldn't be surprising if they lose a game or 2 at the qualifiers and then go to Denver on a discounted ticket titled "The best of the worst"....Stop with the nonsense. All bow before the Mighty Chanster ...and do it in NY. Denver is a long flight to have your arse's handed to you!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shock as in meaning wet the bed? They are gong to get spanked. It wouldn't be surprising if they lose a game or 2 at the qualifiers and then go to Denver on a discounted ticket titled "The best of the worst"....Stop with the nonsense. All bow before the Mighty Chanster ...and do it in NY. Denver is a long flight to have your arse's handed to you!!!

91 2025 is bringing the WP 2024 goalie..hes outstanding at 2024 he should be the difference maker at 2025
91 will be bring some of those eligible players from Wolfpack! ! Especially the goalie, they need some force in the cage to hold in together. That team is a sinking ship and that’s the only way to stop it from sinking deeper and be an
embarrassment for 91 bring in players from the 2024, question why would they want
to travel to Delaware to lose after they just one last year.
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.


91 will poach best players from Express right before qualifier roster submission. See last year's team if you don't believe. They are in the business of winning ($). And they are addicted to winning WSYL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.


91 will poach best players from Express right before qualifier roster submission. See last year's team if you don't believe. They are in the business of winning ($). And they are addicted to winning WSYL.


Trust me...the best Express players will not go to 91. I can guarantee that. And it’s u13, so please... talking to all teams bring all the age eligible players you can find that is willing to go. It’s not cheating, so bring it. I wish every team would like Sweet Lax and Prime Time.
By the rules it’s not cheating. It’s age eligible we get it. Some teams come July, may not know some of the boys they are playing with that are wearing the same jersey. Some parents may not know some of the parents standing next to them. It’s funny when the coach starts calling some of the kids, young man or number 42 because they don’t know boys names on the team they supposedly coach. You right though. It’s not cheating.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.


91 will poach best players from Express right before qualifier roster submission. See last year's team if you don't believe. They are in the business of winning ($). And they are addicted to winning WSYL.


Trust me...the best Express players will not go to 91. I can guarantee that. And it’s u13, so please... talking to all teams bring all the age eligible players you can find that is willing to go. It’s not cheating, so bring it. I wish every team would like Sweet Lax and Prime Time.


91 also has to figure out how to explain the 2024 from Florida to the WSYL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.


91 will poach best players from Express right before qualifier roster submission. See last year's team if you don't believe. They are in the business of winning ($). And they are addicted to winning WSYL.


Trust me...the best Express players will not go to 91. I can guarantee that. And it’s u13, so please... talking to all teams bring all the age eligible players you can find that is willing to go. It’s not cheating, so bring it. I wish every team would like Sweet Lax and Prime Time.


91 also has to figure out how to explain the 2024 from Florida to the WSYL


Why ? Not a game changer, just another piece. If they let him in it changes nothing. In fact they have better options.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is a joke, they have a goalie. Are they going to bench him so the other goalie can WIN IT for them cheaters for sure. The don't have the faith in their own team.


91 will poach best players from Express right before qualifier roster submission. See last year's team if you don't believe. They are in the business of winning ($). And they are addicted to winning WSYL.


Trust me...the best Express players will not go to 91. I can guarantee that. And it’s u13, so please... talking to all teams bring all the age eligible players you can find that is willing to go. It’s not cheating, so bring it. I wish every team would like Sweet Lax and Prime Time.


91 also has to figure out how to explain the 2024 from Florida to the WSYL


Why ? Not a game changer, just another piece. If they let him in it changes nothing. In fact they have better options.


I get the whole holdback argument and understand why it frustrates people. But stacking a team to play in an age based tourney is fine. All these teams are grade based throughout the year. Why not just build a Denver team. Makes all the sense in the world. Yes, I know this will bump kids from the grade roster but so what. If my sons team is going, let’s put the team in the best position to win.
My sons team has a good shot at going far in Denver. If we need to add strange kids at the end to jump in with our team jersey to try and help us win, I’d rather not win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My sons team has a good shot at going far in Denver. If we need to add strange kids at the end to jump in with our team jersey to try and help us win, I’d rather not win.


That’s fine and I understand that. But just because every team is constructed since 1st grade as grade, that’ doesn’t mean you shouldn’t adjust to improve the team for an age based tourney. And not just any tourney, a nationally televised tourney. If you can improve the team, improve it. I will say a team should let all the families know that very on they are adding for the WSYL Just bumping a kid with no warning stinks and I am sure that will fire people up.. But if there is transparently, all good. I will say if your son is not in the roster, you need to find a another club.
Common man, nobody said not to adjust since 1st grade. Adjustments are made at tryouts, adjustments are made in September. Kids come, kids go. Hopefully the team improves year to year. Adding kids right before a tournament to play on a team that isn’t theirs is wrong. 22 kids that have played together all season are now playing with 5 strangers. No thanks. Win in Denver, lose in Denver, or not got to Denver. Whatever happens, happens. Yes the age thing, it’s not cheating we get it. The term I would use is not cheating, I’d say classless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Common man, nobody said not to adjust since 1st grade. Adjustments are made at tryouts, adjustments are made in September. Kids come, kids go. Hopefully the team improves year to year. Adding kids right before a tournament to play on a team that isn’t theirs is wrong. 22 kids that have played together all season are now playing with 5 strangers. No thanks. Win in Denver, lose in Denver, or not got to Denver. Whatever happens, happens. Yes the age thing, it’s not cheating we get it. The term I would use is not cheating, I’d say classless.


This whole debate proves the point that grade based is the wrong construct. It should age to U15 and then go grade in the high school years. Clubs won’t change it, PAL can.. but for some reason will not. Would love to know why??? PAL directors please be effective leaders of youth lacrosse and try to change something for the better. Align with US lacrosse age guidelines make a difference. If PAL goes age, it will have a ripple effect in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 will be bring some of those eligible players from Wolfpack! ! Especially the goalie, they need some force in the cage to hold in together. That team is a sinking ship and that’s the only way to stop it from sinking deeper and be an
embarrassment for 91 bring in players from the 2024, question why would they want
to travel to Delaware to lose after they just one last year.


I dunno why anyone would make another trip to Denver after wining it once. Way better things to do on the 4th of July than play down with kids younger than you. What is 91 going to do? Cut him from Wolfpack - hah! I dont think so.
I would completely support PAL going age based as a town Director. 9/1 cutoff.
Nobody is cutting anyone from wolfpack to go help the 2025 91 team. It’s same organization. If kids went and played on a different 2025 club team for Denver tournament that would be a different story. 91 will throw some kids a bone I’m sure. Wolfpack kids trips will be paid for. Parents wouldn’t pay for that twice. Maybe next years tuition will be paid for as well. I’m sure these things would be done. Denver is becoming organization vs organization, not team vs team. Last year was incredible, the winning team were together for the entire season. No end of the year add on players.
Just scrap the whole Denver SCAM...these teams could do so much more with that money in terms of player improvement. If I ran one of these mismanaged "Club Teams" I'd have them play a in a few more tournaments, have a team outing to Great Adventure and let some other suckers fly across the country to play on lousy fields and get a 100% cotton tee shirt! Which team will Sack-Up this year and NOT go after qualifying? Thats the team that parents should flock to next year. The rest of teh clubs should change their name to "The Sheep"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Common man, nobody said not to adjust since 1st grade. Adjustments are made at tryouts, adjustments are made in September. Kids come, kids go. Hopefully the team improves year to year. Adding kids right before a tournament to play on a team that isn’t theirs is wrong. 22 kids that have played together all season are now playing with 5 strangers. No thanks. Win in Denver, lose in Denver, or not got to Denver. Whatever happens, happens. Yes the age thing, it’s not cheating we get it. The term I would use is not cheating, I’d say classless.


This whole debate proves the point that grade based is the wrong construct. It should age to U15 and then go grade in the high school years. Clubs won’t change it, PAL can.. but for some reason will not. Would love to know why??? PAL directors please be effective leaders of youth lacrosse and try to change something for the better. Align with US lacrosse age guidelines make a difference. If PAL goes age, it will have a ripple effect in my opinion.


I agree with you that youth lacrosse (prior to HS years) should be age based, but PAL has absolutely zero clout over the Club world. Hearing more and more instances at the youth level where Club kids are choosing to not play PAL. More and more clubs are becoming a year round commitment with tournaments, games/scrimmages, practices and off-season training.

PAL used to be where kids would get the stick in their hands earlier. It used to be that clubs would ramp up their practice times and tournaments as PAL season wound down. First tournaments were last weekend in May or early June and would extend to end of July/early August. But now, clubs are playing Spring tournaments as early as March and are done by early July.

I don't mean this as a slight, but PAL is now, more than ever before, geared for the developmental player (which is fantastic!!). PAL changing to an age based model will have no impact to what the Clubs are doing. The broad switch to age based is going to need to come from USL or the clubs themselves, which I won't hold my breathe on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would completely support PAL going age based as a town Director. 9/1 cutoff.


Should be a 12/31 cutoff like soccer. Should be based on birth year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody is cutting anyone from wolfpack to go help the 2025 91 team. It’s same organization. If kids went and played on a different 2025 club team for Denver tournament that would be a different story. 91 will throw some kids a bone I’m sure. Wolfpack kids trips will be paid for. Parents wouldn’t pay for that twice. Maybe next years tuition will be paid for as well. I’m sure these things would be done. Denver is becoming organization vs organization, not team vs team. Last year was incredible, the winning team were together for the entire season. No end of the year add on players.
they changed the team before the season, poaching players from all teams, offering free tution , while kids that played with the club since the fisrt grade sat and watched . All for what, they will be far from the best team this year No one cares about the tourney.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody is cutting anyone from wolfpack to go help the 2025 91 team. It’s same organization. If kids went and played on a different 2025 club team for Denver tournament that would be a different story. 91 will throw some kids a bone I’m sure. Wolfpack kids trips will be paid for. Parents wouldn’t pay for that twice. Maybe next years tuition will be paid for as well. I’m sure these things would be done. Denver is becoming organization vs organization, not team vs team. Last year was incredible, the winning team were together for the entire season. No end of the year add on players.


Maybe the trip will be paid for but it won't be paid for by 91. That cost will be paid by the other parents.
Last year was a joke as is that whole BS tournament. wake up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year was a joke as is that whole BS tournament. wake up


Please explain to me how the WSYL is a joke. If the only hard line in the sand true U13 tournament is a joke, then what do you call the rest of the garbage tournaments with ZERO accountability on Age, location, teams ETC?

If money is your issue then go to the PAL boards.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody is cutting anyone from wolfpack to go help the 2025 91 team. It’s same organization. If kids went and played on a different 2025 club team for Denver tournament that would be a different story. 91 will throw some kids a bone I’m sure. Wolfpack kids trips will be paid for. Parents wouldn’t pay for that twice. Maybe next years tuition will be paid for as well. I’m sure these things would be done. Denver is becoming organization vs organization, not team vs team. Last year was incredible, the winning team were together for the entire season. No end of the year add on players.
they changed the team before the season, poaching players from all teams, offering free tution , while kids that played with the club since the fisrt grade sat and watched . All for what, they will be far from the best team this year No one cares about the tourney.


Gonna say it here one last time because people here refuse to learn about history (repeating itself). 91 WILL WIN WSYL AGAIN! they WILL bring in pieces from places you have no idea about... to win it! This org's tentacles to reach and recruit the best players around is its unmatched advantage.

Reply to this post July 4 2020 10PM EST. I'm not taking any responses before then.
The issue with WSYL isn’t age. I love an even age tournament. No advantages with kids being older, great idea. The issue is picking up kids at the end to play in a tournament, that aren’t on the actually team. It takes away from what an actual team is. 2 kids from the grade above play for the grade below in Denver, 2 kids left their club to hop on this other team going to a Denver. This great face off kid, is jumping on another team that is going to Denver. This goalie is leaving that team, to play 2 weeks on another team going to Denver. This coach has a friend in New Jersey, who isn’t happy with the Jersey club team, so he is leaving that team and jumping on a Long Island team to go to Denver. When kids and parents see strange kids playing on their sons team and nobody even knows their names. This is the explanation of how it’s a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The issue with WSYL isn’t age. I love an even age tournament. No advantages with kids being older, great idea. The issue is picking up kids at the end to play in a tournament, that aren’t on the actually team. It takes away from what an actual team is. 2 kids from the grade above play for the grade below in Denver, 2 kids left their club to hop on this other team going to a Denver. This great face off kid, is jumping on another team that is going to Denver. This goalie is leaving that team, to play 2 weeks on another team going to Denver. This coach has a friend in New Jersey, who isn’t happy with the Jersey club team, so he is leaving that team and jumping on a Long Island team to go to Denver. When kids and parents see strange kids playing on their sons team and nobody even knows their names. This is the explanation of how it’s a joke.


It’s about winning and if you can improve the team. I have no issue with it. If I did, I would just take my son to another club. Nice thing about club, a lot of choice. However, I admit that I can see how this would upset people in the every kid gets trophy world of today.. Solution...clubs should hold tryouts for just the WSYL. Surprised they all haven’t. Separate practice, separate roster, and another revenue stream. I would like to see the 4 best u 13 teams on LI. But let’s be honest, since the complainers can’t talk about holdbacks, they conjure up this rent a player thing to complain about.
You know how people will stop with the rent a player complaints. I have the answer. Don’t rent players. Renting players and winning isn’t winning. Not much more to say on the topic.
having gone to it and having a kid on a good team WYSL was great experience. His team did not win the whole thing but did win their division and picked up a couple kids a year in advance of it. Everybody for most part was fine with it because you do not want to go there and not be competitive. Those kids they picked up still with club by the way and they didn't take spots of kids basically just balanced out kids we lost due to the age requirement. It is a great experience if you have a team that can be competitive. If you cannot play with the teams from the northeast then you are in for a long couple days. TRUE out of Illinois last year was right there with all the Northeast teams and I think they were the only team in the Quarterfinals not from the Northeast. Denver Elite another program that comes to the Northeast to play tournaments and have a solid team as well that competes. If I was a parent NOT from the Northeast I would push my club to play a tournament in Philly, MD or Long Island to see where you stand before committing to Denver. I cannot imagine going there and losing games by 15 goals consistently not fun or helping your kids get better.

The rent a player model is done by a lot of teams for this tournament other regions have to to be able to compete. Have to remember also the age requirement literally takes a lot of teams out of this tournament so the pools are shallow and it opens up spots on teams.
This board is stil going on about WSYL? BOOOOORING Change the name to WSYLH....the H stands for "HEIST" WAKE UP
bitter? 2025 year WYSL will be a big deal rather you like or not.
A big deal to who? Express? The kids? Noone gives a rat's arse. Its irrelevant in the big picture. Its a money grab and an avenue for disgruntled parents trying to re-live their past thru their kids....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is stil going on about WSYL? BOOOOORING Change the name to WSYLH....the H stands for "HEIST" WAKE UP


Feel free to change it and bring up a fresh topic that’s worth discussing. Even though I am sure you’ll be watching the game on TV, or setting the DVR. Be honest.
I may set the DVR. I’ll be enjoying my friends BBQ and firework show. That’s being honest. I’ll roll in after a great day about 10 pm, when fireworks are over. After a fun day and night of eating, drinking and fireworks, with 30 of our friends, I’ll be tired. I’ll brush my teeth, I’ll go to bed. I’ll be honest once again, I’m going to say to myself, I’m glad that 4400 bucks is still in my checking account.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I may set the DVR. I’ll be enjoying my friends BBQ and firework show. That’s being honest. I’ll roll in after a great day about 10 pm, when fireworks are over. After a fun day and night of eating, drinking and fireworks, with 30 of our friends, I’ll be tired. I’ll brush my teeth, I’ll go to bed. I’ll be honest once again, I’m going to say to myself, I’m glad that 4400 bucks is still in my checking account.


Lol, but you’ll still watch the game. I’ll take the over on the 4400
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I may set the DVR. I’ll be enjoying my friends BBQ and firework show. That’s being honest. I’ll roll in after a great day about 10 pm, when fireworks are over. After a fun day and night of eating, drinking and fireworks, with 30 of our friends, I’ll be tired. I’ll brush my teeth, I’ll go to bed. I’ll be honest once again, I’m going to say to myself, I’m glad that 4400 bucks is still in my checking account.


Lol, but you’ll still watch the game. I’ll take the over on the 4400
easy 6-7,000 depending on how many going . highway robbery..
Watch a re-run of 13 yr old lacrosse for a tournament that you didn't attend? Anyone that is doing that should look in the mirror and come to the conclusion that they have failed miserably in life and that your son may follow in your footsteps if you dont clean up your act. WSYL is nothing more than a mind screw on unsuspecting parents or for parents that want to believe that gasoline tastes like water. Take the $7500 and see a therapist due. You will get more bang for your buck.
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card
All of these diluted parents think WSYL is the Holy Grail of Lax. Who won it 2 yrs ago? Who played in the finals? Who scored the most goals last year? What did the T shirt look like? The answer is WHO GIVES A SHIZZLE!!!!!. If the "Prestigious" lax clubs are reading this, and I know most of you do, then you should be able to figure out that most parents have no interest in this BS event. Do something more fruitful with your team this year. Develop them. Play more local tourneys, do a team building event that they will remember in a year from now. Dont drink the WSYL gasoline and tell the parents and kids that it is water. Do that and your all gonna get burnt. And just think: The most despised club on LI can then boast "We won a tournament that noone attended" WHOOP DEE darn DOO
check this out.
https://static.umterps.com/custompages/pdf/mlax/mlaxrecordbook.pdf
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We already knew the Geese coach never actually played for Maryland.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card


I know this sounds horrible but those of us who can easily afford to shell $10-20k without batting an eye are secretly snickering and looking down on you because you failed to be financially successful in life to afford such things. In the end, our families get memories (good and bad) and you get to stay in your vinyl sided ranch house on a postage stamp lot and chances are, your kids will work for ours when they finish college (assuming yours go to one). Again, I'm saying this because of your arrogant tone and someone has to put you in your place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card


I know this sounds horrible but those of us who can easily afford to shell $10-20k without batting an eye are secretly snickering and looking down on you because you failed to be financially successful in life to afford such things. In the end, our families get memories (good and bad) and you get to stay in your vinyl sided ranch house on a postage stamp lot and chances are, your kids will work for ours when they finish college (assuming yours go to one). Again, I'm saying this because of your arrogant tone and someone has to put you in your place.


People who have the money are looking at you snickering at the fact you need this more then your kid does!
If the people who could EASILY afford the WSYL were the only people who went. Teams would be playing games that were 3 on 3. 22 out of 25, aren’t in that category. Real world people, have other kids, other bills, college tuition for other kids, other sports for other kids, these are the facts. Real world people in this club lacrosse world are spending tons of money already, adding 6,7 thousand more in the middle of the summer, isn’t so simple for almost everyone. If I could take that 7 grand and put it towards my older guys college tuition or a July 4th tournament in Colorado for my 12 year old. I’d choose chose number 1.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card


I know this sounds horrible but those of us who can easily afford to shell $10-20k without batting an eye are secretly snickering and looking down on you because you failed to be financially successful in life to afford such things. In the end, our families get memories (good and bad) and you get to stay in your vinyl sided ranch house on a postage stamp lot and chances are, your kids will work for ours when they finish college (assuming yours go to one). Again, I'm saying this because of your arrogant tone and someone has to put you in your place.


People who have the money are looking at you snickering at the fact you need this more then your kid does!


Emphasis on "people who have the money", which definitely you're not a member of. We can handle them snickering back at us.
It is the best run tournament I have been to. Stop being haters if you dont want to go or your kid isnt on a team that qualifies get over it. It is $5k which is what a lot of families spend on a family vacation so that was our family vacation for the year. It was a blast for parents and the kids. A lot of good on age lacrosse which is unique experience for the kids now a day's. You really got to see where you stand as a player.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card


I know this sounds horrible but those of us who can easily afford to shell $10-20k without batting an eye are secretly snickering and looking down on you because you failed to be financially successful in life to afford such things. In the end, our families get memories (good and bad) and you get to stay in your vinyl sided ranch house on a postage stamp lot and chances are, your kids will work for ours when they finish college (assuming yours go to one). Again, I'm saying this because of your arrogant tone and someone has to put you in your place.


I don't think so. Do you know why wealthy people stay that way? They understand the value of money. It's clear as day you're nouveau riche.

The part about some kid working for your kid is laughable though. The way you speak, it's clear your child will end up some spoiled brat that you'll be paying for the rest of your life. And that's only if you're lucky.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$10k for a family of four to go out rent a car, hotel, food, flights, and all the apparel that you buy a complete money grab and when your kid is a Senior in HS they will say that was a waste of time and money ... Good Luck make sure you bring your credit card


I know this sounds horrible but those of us who can easily afford to shell $10-20k without batting an eye are secretly snickering and looking down on you because you failed to be financially successful in life to afford such things. In the end, our families get memories (good and bad) and you get to stay in your vinyl sided ranch house on a postage stamp lot and chances are, your kids will work for ours when they finish college (assuming yours go to one). Again, I'm saying this because of your arrogant tone and someone has to put you in your place.


People who have the money are looking at you snickering at the fact you need this more then your kid does!


Emphasis on "people who have the money", which definitely you're not a member of. We can handle them snickering back at us.


Such a middle class response of someone projecting. Those with wealth don't need to discuss it!!
I took my family last year... Close to $6K. A lot of money but it was great, probably hotter than you would think though.

My kids team got smoked but it was still a great time. On age level sounds like a cake-walk but it really wasn't.
Illinois team was good and BBL vs Wolfpack game was best I've seen. IMHO BBL would have beaten Legacy by 8+.

All that aside, the issue comes down to when L.I. doesn't win or even have a team in finals. I'm a L.I. guy with kids that play but everywhere else just seems to be concentrating on lacrosse and getting better. They travel to every tournament they play in (hotels, air, etc.), I would imagine they spend 10K or more easily a season. Sounds nuts but I don't think they have a choice.

I don't really have a point with this, just enjoy the game. Make sure your kid likes it and is getting better.

This site is full of Daddy Ball issues and $$$. Soon it will be just a second rate forum complaining about Middle school lacrosse.

Let the BASHING begin!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I took my family last year... Close to $6K. A lot of money but it was great, probably hotter than you would think though.

My kids team got smoked but it was still a great time. On age level sounds like a cake-walk but it really wasn't.
Illinois team was good and BBL vs Wolfpack game was best I've seen. IMHO BBL would have beaten Legacy by 8+.

All that aside, the issue comes down to when L.I. doesn't win or even have a team in finals. I'm a L.I. guy with kids that play but everywhere else just seems to be concentrating on lacrosse and getting better. They travel to every tournament they play in (hotels, air, etc.), I would imagine they spend 10K or more easily a season. Sounds nuts but I don't think they have a choice.

I don't really have a point with this, just enjoy the game. Make sure your kid likes it and is getting better.

This site is full of Daddy Ball issues and $$$. Soon it will be just a second rate forum complaining about Middle school lacrosse.

Let the BASHING begin!!!!



Same here - our family went this past summer. Almost 9K all in since we made a vacation out of it (came to Denver early). Great experience for my son. My daughters were troopers. Some thoughts for those going this year. 1) Seeding matters. Make it a goal to win the regional qualifier. It will be an easier path to success in Denver. Otherwise, your team will have a hard time getting out of pool play (4 groups of 6 teams, top 2 teams advance from each group) 2) Like the poster said, it is HOT! but dry. Many teams had party tents and chairs rentals setup before they got there. This is a great idea. Siblings used it alot. 3) If you can, go there a couple of days early to get acclimated to the altitude. Setup practice/training days and setup a scrimmage (there are HS fields you can use in Denver). Few family members had minor altitude sickness. 4) It takes a village. Our team was lucky to have organized team parents leaders that managed logistics and team costs.

Hope all of you here get to go and have a great experience with your families this year. Godd luck.

PS to the op, raincheck. I'll bash you in my next post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I took my family last year... Close to $6K. A lot of money but it was great, probably hotter than you would think though.

My kids team got smoked but it was still a great time. On age level sounds like a cake-walk but it really wasn't.
Illinois team was good and BBL vs Wolfpack game was best I've seen. IMHO BBL would have beaten Legacy by 8+.

All that aside, the issue comes down to when L.I. doesn't win or even have a team in finals. I'm a L.I. guy with kids that play but everywhere else just seems to be concentrating on lacrosse and getting better. They travel to every tournament they play in (hotels, air, etc.), I would imagine they spend 10K or more easily a season. Sounds nuts but I don't think they have a choice.

I don't really have a point with this, just enjoy the game. Make sure your kid likes it and is getting better.

This site is full of Daddy Ball issues and $$$. Soon it will be just a second rate forum complaining about Middle school lacrosse.

Let the BASHING begin!!!!
You do know that Legacy Beat BBL in the Fall and just recently. they never beat Legacy. You also know they beat the iLLINOi S team in the semi final . They lost bid in the finals, but 1 game does not dictate other out comes. . So before you make a suggestions on what you think . know the facts. carry on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I took my family last year... Close to $6K. A lot of money but it was great, probably hotter than you would think though.

My kids team got smoked but it was still a great time. On age level sounds like a cake-walk but it really wasn't.
Illinois team was good and BBL vs Wolfpack game was best I've seen. IMHO BBL would have beaten Legacy by 8+.

All that aside, the issue comes down to when L.I. doesn't win or even have a team in finals. I'm a L.I. guy with kids that play but everywhere else just seems to be concentrating on lacrosse and getting better. They travel to every tournament they play in (hotels, air, etc.), I would imagine they spend 10K or more easily a season. Sounds nuts but I don't think they have a choice.

I don't really have a point with this, just enjoy the game. Make sure your kid likes it and is getting better.

This site is full of Daddy Ball issues and $$$. Soon it will be just a second rate forum complaining about Middle school lacrosse.

Let the BASHING begin!!!!
You do know that Legacy Beat BBL in the Fall and just recently. they never beat Legacy. You also know they beat the iLLINOi S team in the semi final . They lost bid in the finals, but 1 game does not dictate other out comes. . So before you make a suggestions on what you think . know the facts. carry on


Who cares and your in the wrong forum. Take it to the '24 thread.
When do clubs have to submit their rosters for the World Series for the North?
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)
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Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Better yet where is this silly drivel from?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Better yet where is this silly drivel from?
No need to waste the Money.. express Wins it all .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Didn't Legacy's A team fold?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Better yet where is this silly drivel from?
No need to waste the Money.. express Wins it all .


The Primetime team should be better than ranking because it’s not a 2025 team, they have a separate u13 team. Which is all good and within the rules. Queue all that’s not right, kids get broken up, coaches don’t know names, we win it right, etc etc..please yell louder about it and let us know if it changes. Lol
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Better yet where is this silly drivel from?
No need to waste the Money.. express Wins it all .


The Primetime team should be better than ranking because it’s not a 2025 team, they have a separate u13 team. Which is all good and within the rules. Queue all that’s not right, kids get broken up, coaches don’t know names, we win it right, etc etc..please yell louder about it and let us know if it changes. Lol


The key is to load up the WS team with as many '24 age-qualified as you can find. Win with puberty. This plus steal best FOGOs and goalies from other clubs by waiving fees for them.
Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nissan WSYL/IL 13U Preseason World Rankings:

1. Long Island Express (N.Y.)2. Team 91 Long Island (N.Y.)3. Team 91 Maryland (Md.)4. True Illinois (Ill.)5. Express North (Conn.)6. Mad Dog East (N.J.)7. Primetime (N.Y.)8. Sixers (Colo.)9. Sweetlax Upstate (N.Y.)10. Tribal South Jersey (N.J.)11. Igloo (N.Y.)12. BBL Elite (N.J.)13. Cannons Select (Md)14. Tri-State (N.J.)15. Los Angeles Berserkers (Calif.)16. Eclipse (Conn.)17. Mad Dog West (Calif.)18. Evolve Elite Ontario (Ont.)19. Regulators (N.Y.)20. Sweetlax Florida (Fla.)21. SoCal Express (Calif.)22. Carolina Gold (N.C.)23. Northern Pacific (Wash./Ore.)24. True Minnesota (Minn.)25. HP Mohicans (Texas)


Where is Legacy??


Better yet where is this silly drivel from?
No need to waste the Money.. express Wins it all .


The Primetime team should be better than ranking because it’s not a 2025 team, they have a separate u13 team. Which is all good and within the rules. Queue all that’s not right, kids get broken up, coaches don’t know names, we win it right, etc etc..please yell louder about it and let us know if it changes. Lol


The key is to load up the WS team with as many '24 age-qualified as you can find. Win with puberty. This plus steal best FOGOs and goalies from other clubs by waiving fees for them.


Nothing wrong with trying to put the best team on the field. 91 is dying to 3 peat and what’s more, they don’t want to see Express winning on TV. There is a lot of revenue at stake, so there is holds barred. And I have no issue, do what you must.
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Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.


My money is on 91 hoisting the trophy in the end. They have to formula and will recruit, recruit, then recruit some more.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.


My money is on 91 hoisting the trophy in the end. They have to formula and will recruit, recruit, then recruit some more.


LIE is the top dog
There will be lots of team hopping in June. It’s become a disgrace. Some of you people don’t even see it.
Recruit who. Who is recruiting. How is it even possible to recruit. Every single good lacrosse player is on a club team. So your saying kids will leave their current teams to play for other teams. Are you saying they will just play on 2 teams. I don’t even understand what possible recruiting is being done. Fill me in.
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Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.


My money is on 91 hoisting the trophy in the end. They have to formula and will recruit, recruit, then recruit some more.


Only matter of time before they reach out to LE and ask to use their goaile. Might be the best at the '25 level.
Who ranked these teams? Its pretty funny. Igloo 11? They lose to Town teams. Regulators 19? Aren't they a start up that hasn't even played anyone yet? All that these ranking do is give false hope to these "Premier teams" so they can force feed this garbage to the gullible parents. They need teams to drink the koolaide as they are running out of teams to play in Denver. Write the checks suckers...
If your telling me dropping $8k to fly to Denver to watch some KIDS play lax is a "win" then you should re-evaluate your life....
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.


My money is on 91 hoisting the trophy in the end. They have to formula and will recruit, recruit, then recruit some more.


Only matter of time before they reach out to LE and ask to use their goaile. Might be the best at the '25 level.


Who is LE?
The Evaluations are done with 91 and WS people if they do not spread it over the entire nation then teams will not go . This is the biggest money grab around if you were smart take the money and go on a trip with no lax ... Good Luck if you think this is a great tourney if you think it is then this is your first kid ... HAVE FUN
Its a scam!! I love the "It will be a great experience" Will it? Your dragging your family 1/2 way across the country to sit on a crappy field only to get the snot kicked out of you by Express? And paying $8k for the privilege? Sounds like a real bonding moment that will solidify your family and your wallet for years to come! My bad....you get a warp mini. They were like $60.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Recruit who. Who is recruiting. How is it even possible to recruit. Every single good lacrosse player is on a club team. So your saying kids will leave their current teams to play for other teams. Are you saying they will just play on 2 teams. I don’t even understand what possible recruiting is being done. Fill me in.


The correct term is 'poaching'. There is precedence from last year if you have doubts. Top players from one club jumped ship to join another and that club took home the trophy. Ask your friends.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yup! That’s what 91 is doing!


Every team is.


My money is on 91 hoisting the trophy in the end. They have to formula and will recruit, recruit, then recruit some more.


Only matter of time before they reach out to LE and ask to use their goaile. Might be the best at the '25 level.


Who is LE?

Leading Edge
Also think if your son in on the bottom half of the roster and you spend $8k to watch him play for two minutes a game , sounds like a great plane ride home !!!!!!!!!!!
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Its a scam!! I love the "It will be a great experience" Will it? Your dragging your family 1/2 way across the country to sit on a crappy field only to get the snot kicked out of you by Express? And paying $8k for the privilege? Sounds like a real bonding moment that will solidify your family and your wallet for years to come! My bad....you get a warp mini. They were like $60.....


Your son gets to play on Colorado grass while you're in the parking lot smokin' it. It's a huge party out there.
Who is LE? Do you mean WP (Wolfpack)?
Just so you’re all aware apparently 91 has a “ person” involved with these rankings that’s why 91 is ranked so high and undeservingly so. That 91 team lost to town teams last season, give me a break with the number 2 ranking. They are not that good. What a joke.
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Also think if your son in on the bottom half of the roster and you spend $8k to watch him play for two minutes a game , sounds like a great plane ride home !!!!!!!!!!!


IMHO Unfortunately those people don’t see that now. They will eventually and kick themselves. It’s not that your son isn’t a good player, these teams have great players and it’s about winning. Put your son on a team where he can be the best player and help players around him get better. Not hang on and hope for a few minutes for playing time on a team where if you left nobody would notice. All the speed and agility and training won’t get your son to the starting line, because the starters are working just as hard. It will help down the line in HS, for now just focus on instilling confidence by letting your son succeed on the field. Playing with better players doesn’t make you better when your not playing. And why put that pressure on kids when they do play.
Did someone really say its "a great party out there"? Your spending 8K to get loaded in front of your kid and act like a stunad with other parents? That' some priority. well I hope you enjoy it. Apparently everyone qualifies this year because the other regions are falling apart fast. PARTY ON!
it is a great event and the teams who do it have a blast. what is wrong with a tournament that brings together some of the best in the country? last year was great
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Who is LE? Do you mean WP (Wolfpack)?


WP goalie is going from a great win to playing down a grade in a crushing loss. Happy 4th!
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it is a great event and the teams who do it have a blast. what is wrong with a tournament that brings together some of the best in the country? last year was great


Hardly the best teams in the country. Last year’s winner needed to bring in new kids and a new Coach just to claim they are the best in the world. What a crock of BS. They were so good that they lost in pool play at NLF a week later and bailed on their Sunday schedule. What is the message there? The only beneficiary is the club that keeps promoting their WSYL wins against sub-par competition and forcing its players and parents to attend. Complete farce and disgrace - save your money for clinics and get your kid on Varsity as an underclassman: that carries much more weight on a lax resume than a WSYL championship (Yawn).
No need to be discreet with "last years winner", we all know it was 91 wolfpack, lol. And yes that was a disgusting move on their part to leave a tournament because they knew they were not advancing in the NLF tournament , leaving the team they were going to play hanging the next day. But hey thats 91 for you........shouldnt surprise anyone anymore, they are low intellect trash that cry and make excuses when they dont win
Looks like a good fun lineup at Barn Battle this weekend. Express, Rush, Rebels, Regulators and 91. I don’t think it’s Blast though. I think they stopped playing box after losing to a few mediocre PA teams. Either way, it looks like a fun day of box!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
it is a great event and the teams who do it have a blast. what is wrong with a tournament that brings together some of the best in the country? last year was great


Hardly the best teams in the country. Last year’s winner needed to bring in new kids and a new Coach just to claim they are the best in the world. What a crock of BS. They were so good that they lost in pool play at NLF a week later and bailed on their Sunday schedule. What is the message there? The only beneficiary is the club that keeps promoting their WSYL wins against sub-par competition and forcing its players and parents to attend. Complete farce and disgrace - save your money for clinics and get your kid on Varsity as an underclassman: that carries much more weight on a lax resume than a WSYL championship (Yawn).


This is 100% true. My youngest is a '25 (I also have a '20 and a '21, the middle guy went to Denver, the older guy did not) and I can tell you from experience that after this year, no one cares about travel lacrosse other than club directors and parents of kids still playing middle school lacrosse. Sure, there are tourneys and the kids all play year round and get better, and that's awesome. But, club lacrosse becomes a vehicle to get to varsity. By next year, many of the boys will be playing JV for their schools while the truly top kids will be playing on varsity. The focus shifts completely. Kids play club to keep up with the ever-increasing talent of HS lax on LI. While the elite talent (top 5 or 6 kids on LI) will get looked at club showcases in 10th and 11th grade, everyone below them will attend individual showcases and go to prospect camps for the schools that they have interest in. Thats the reality. 95% of the commits you read about had to go out on their own, contact schools and coaches, send in film, and go to prospect camps. My advice would be to enjoy this year and not get caught up in the nonsense. Denver was a pretty good experience (a lot of really bad teams and a few good ones), but in reality, no one cares about it when you get home.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
it is a great event and the teams who do it have a blast. what is wrong with a tournament that brings together some of the best in the country? last year was great


Hardly the best teams in the country. Last year’s winner needed to bring in new kids and a new Coach just to claim they are the best in the world. What a crock of BS. They were so good that they lost in pool play at NLF a week later and bailed on their Sunday schedule. What is the message there? The only beneficiary is the club that keeps promoting their WSYL wins against sub-par competition and forcing its players and parents to attend. Complete farce and disgrace - save your money for clinics and get your kid on Varsity as an underclassman: that carries much more weight on a lax resume than a WSYL championship (Yawn).


This is 100% true. My youngest is a '25 (I also have a '20 and a '21, the middle guy went to Denver, the older guy did not) and I can tell you from experience that after this year, no one cares about travel lacrosse other than club directors and parents of kids still playing middle school lacrosse. Sure, there are tourneys and the kids all play year round and get better, and that's awesome. But, club lacrosse becomes a vehicle to get to varsity. By next year, many of the boys will be playing JV for their schools while the truly top kids will be playing on varsity. The focus shifts completely. Kids play club to keep up with the ever-increasing talent of HS lax on LI. While the elite talent (top 5 or 6 kids on LI) will get looked at club showcases in 10th and 11th grade, everyone below them will attend individual showcases and go to prospect camps for the schools that they have interest in. Thats the reality. 95% of the commits you read about had to go out on their own, contact schools and coaches, send in film, and go to prospect camps. My advice would be to enjoy this year and not get caught up in the nonsense. Denver was a pretty good experience (a lot of really bad teams and a few good ones), but in reality, no one cares about it when you get home.


I have older boys too, and I can attest to this. This board is a pretty solid indicator of club lacrosse interest (read: craziness).
Our thread: 76 pages
2024 thread: 39 pages
2023 thread: 15 pages
2022 thread: 9 pages
2021 thread: 3 post total
High School thread: 445 pages.

The focus definitely shifts starting next year. Enjoy this one, friends.
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Looks like a good fun lineup at Barn Battle this weekend. Express, Rush, Rebels, Regulators and 91. I don’t think it’s Blast though. I think they stopped playing box after losing to a few mediocre PA teams. Either way, it looks like a fun day of box!


Yep, looks like a solid lineup. Should be fun.
WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.
WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.
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WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.


Carolina Gold is decent at the older ages. But it’s evident that the tourney is losing its luster. The fact is most teams from around the country have no interest in flying to Denver to play in a lacrosse tournament that has been one by a club from LI every year. Outside of the LI clubs, there are very few competitive teams at this event. I went with my 2023. I’ve seen it. The competition is mediocre at best and terrible at its worst. Go back and look at some of the scores. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is that many clubs have holdbacks. Honestly, I’m fine with holdbacks. Those are the kids that our boys will be competing against when they get to recruiting age, so why not play them now? But I don’t want to get into that right now. My point is, when you take out Maryland, Boston, Philli, etc... you dilute the talent pool so much that it kind of bring the whole experience down.
In my opinion every time it’s a LI v LI final it weakens the tourney. The tourney needs another region to win. I like the concept of the tourney, but It needs the hotbeds to participate.
Couldn’t agree more with both comments... grade best brings out the best players and teams
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Couldn’t agree more with both comments... grade best brings out the best players and teams


Be careful what you wish for and you can't have it both ways. If this happens, you can forget about LI winning. It will dominated by states where red shirts are the norm.
4 teams from the south region, Has that been the norm from the last few years?
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WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.


Carolina Gold is decent at the older ages. But it’s evident that the tourney is losing its luster. The fact is most teams from around the country have no interest in flying to Denver to play in a lacrosse tournament that has been one by a club from LI every year. Outside of the LI clubs, there are very few competitive teams at this event. I went with my 2023. I’ve seen it. The competition is mediocre at best and terrible at its worst. Go back and look at some of the scores. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is that many clubs have holdbacks. Honestly, I’m fine with holdbacks. Those are the kids that our boys will be competing against when they get to recruiting age, so why not play them now? But I don’t want to get into that right now. My point is, when you take out Maryland, Boston, Philli, etc... you dilute the talent pool so much that it kind of bring the whole experience down.

Carolina Gold is not even a real travel team. Its a team put together exclusively to qualify for the WSYL. You will never see them at a summer or fall tourney. They hold tryouts and do their best to field players from in and around the Charlotte area for a one-time team. I personally do not have a problem with the age restriction. I for one think its good to have at least one event that attempts to keep the playing field level. I think the bigger issue is the 100 mile radius that the kids have to live within. This is not an issue for hotbeds like the northeast, however when you get outside of those parts of the country there are fewer kids playing the sport. This isn't to say that there aren't high level players in non-hotbeds, but certainly not as many and they are spread out. I think that in non-hotbed areas WSYL should allow certain regions to expand the radius so that they can field more talented kids and better compete if/when they make it to Denver. I know of some very talented kids in the South and other non-hotbeds who will never have a chance to go to Denver simply because there are no teams near them (within 100 miles) that are attempting to qualify. And I can't blame them for not trying because they know that collectively they do not have enough high-level players to field a competitive team. I think if they allowed an "All-Georgia", "All-NC", or "All-Florida" team to compete- regardless of where in the state the kids live- they would have a better showing. One, if not two, of the 4 teams competing this weekend at the South qualifier will be in Denver...and they will likely get waxed and leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not wish to attend in future years.
With all that being said, I believe the intent of WSYL initially was to have actual, pre-existing teams compete to see who is best. If you start "manufacturing" teams then it defeats the purpose of the WSYL....and it looks like this is happening even up here.
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Couldn’t agree more with both comments... grade best brings out the best players and teams


Those players probably played last year. And still lost to LI teams. Love all the LI bashing, our athletes are being left behind, blah, blah, blah. The only way you can beat them is to play them with older players. End of story. A LI team will win this year, too.
Saw BBL in the fall.....Def not a top 5 team.
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WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.


Carolina Gold is decent at the older ages. But it’s evident that the tourney is losing its luster. The fact is most teams from around the country have no interest in flying to Denver to play in a lacrosse tournament that has been one by a club from LI every year. Outside of the LI clubs, there are very few competitive teams at this event. I went with my 2023. I’ve seen it. The competition is mediocre at best and terrible at its worst. Go back and look at some of the scores. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is that many clubs have holdbacks. Honestly, I’m fine with holdbacks. Those are the kids that our boys will be competing against when they get to recruiting age, so why not play them now? But I don’t want to get into that right now. My point is, when you take out Maryland, Boston, Philli, etc... you dilute the talent pool so much that it kind of bring the whole experience down.

Carolina Gold is not even a real travel team. Its a team put together exclusively to qualify for the WSYL. You will never see them at a summer or fall tourney. They hold tryouts and do their best to field players from in and around the Charlotte area for a one-time team. I personally do not have a problem with the age restriction. I for one think its good to have at least one event that attempts to keep the playing field level. I think the bigger issue is the 100 mile radius that the kids have to live within. This is not an issue for hotbeds like the northeast, however when you get outside of those parts of the country there are fewer kids playing the sport. This isn't to say that there aren't high level players in non-hotbeds, but certainly not as many and they are spread out. I think that in non-hotbed areas WSYL should allow certain regions to expand the radius so that they can field more talented kids and better compete if/when they make it to Denver. I know of some very talented kids in the South and other non-hotbeds who will never have a chance to go to Denver simply because there are no teams near them (within 100 miles) that are attempting to qualify. And I can't blame them for not trying because they know that collectively they do not have enough high-level players to field a competitive team. I think if they allowed an "All-Georgia", "All-NC", or "All-Florida" team to compete- regardless of where in the state the kids live- they would have a better showing. One, if not two, of the 4 teams competing this weekend at the South qualifier will be in Denver...and they will likely get waxed and leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not wish to attend in future years.
With all that being said, I believe the intent of WSYL initially was to have actual, pre-existing teams compete to see who is best. If you start "manufacturing" teams then it defeats the purpose of the WSYL....and it looks like this is happening even up here.


It’s been happening here since the second year. Legacy did it, Express did it. 91 did it. Blast is doing it this year. There are no real teams playing in this tournament anymore.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
WSYL has the South qualifier taking place this weekend. There are a whopping 4 teams total vying for a trip to Denver. I’ve heard of Sweetlax Florida and Stealth South Florida but never heard of the other 2 teams (Carolina Gold, Valor LC). This is the challenge with WSYL, for better or worse, crowning a “true” 13U champion (not grade based), means you don’t get the same competition as, say, an NLF tourney. After all, grade-based competition is all your son will see after the WSYL - I understand it’s a nice experience but it isn’t close to the best overall competition at the 2025 level.


Carolina Gold is decent at the older ages. But it’s evident that the tourney is losing its luster. The fact is most teams from around the country have no interest in flying to Denver to play in a lacrosse tournament that has been one by a club from LI every year. Outside of the LI clubs, there are very few competitive teams at this event. I went with my 2023. I’ve seen it. The competition is mediocre at best and terrible at its worst. Go back and look at some of the scores. There are several reasons for this, not the least of which is that many clubs have holdbacks. Honestly, I’m fine with holdbacks. Those are the kids that our boys will be competing against when they get to recruiting age, so why not play them now? But I don’t want to get into that right now. My point is, when you take out Maryland, Boston, Philli, etc... you dilute the talent pool so much that it kind of bring the whole experience down.

Carolina Gold is not even a real travel team. Its a team put together exclusively to qualify for the WSYL. You will never see them at a summer or fall tourney. They hold tryouts and do their best to field players from in and around the Charlotte area for a one-time team. I personally do not have a problem with the age restriction. I for one think its good to have at least one event that attempts to keep the playing field level. I think the bigger issue is the 100 mile radius that the kids have to live within. This is not an issue for hotbeds like the northeast, however when you get outside of those parts of the country there are fewer kids playing the sport. This isn't to say that there aren't high level players in non-hotbeds, but certainly not as many and they are spread out. I think that in non-hotbed areas WSYL should allow certain regions to expand the radius so that they can field more talented kids and better compete if/when they make it to Denver. I know of some very talented kids in the South and other non-hotbeds who will never have a chance to go to Denver simply because there are no teams near them (within 100 miles) that are attempting to qualify. And I can't blame them for not trying because they know that collectively they do not have enough high-level players to field a competitive team. I think if they allowed an "All-Georgia", "All-NC", or "All-Florida" team to compete- regardless of where in the state the kids live- they would have a better showing. One, if not two, of the 4 teams competing this weekend at the South qualifier will be in Denver...and they will likely get waxed and leave with a sour taste in their mouth and not wish to attend in future years.
With all that being said, I believe the intent of WSYL initially was to have actual, pre-existing teams compete to see who is best. If you start "manufacturing" teams then it defeats the purpose of the WSYL....and it looks like this is happening even up here.


It’s been happening here since the second year. Legacy did it, Express did it. 91 did it. Blast is doing it this year. There are no real teams playing in this tournament anymore.



Exactly. Those with holier than thou attitudes need to give it up and wake up to the fact that no team is pure no matter how much you want to believe.
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Yes , a sure sign of things to come.
Carolina Gold, NJ Smog, PA Quakers, Florida Snow birds.....WHO CARES!! I'll say it again: The WYSL is on life support and it is a total scam. Hopefully some LI clubs will wake up and see that. 4 team qualifiers in 1 region? Seems like they dont drink koolaide in that region. Applause!! Sad part is they will get some mediocre teams from LI to fill those voids. "HOORAY! We quaified! 12 other teams backed out so we made it!!!" WAKE UP
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Yes , a sure sign of things to come.


Don’t poke the bear, Blastards.
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Yes , a sure sign of things to come.


Don’t poke the bear, Blastards.


Just box missing full team from many of the programs yesterday, see you in the spring
Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?
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Yes , a sure sign of things to come.


Don’t poke the bear, Blastards.


So the team that practices box lacrosse (no faceoffs, no defense, no attack) every winter for 4 years beat a team that never practices box lacrosse and now they are posting that Express is done? Oh man, you guys are making a BIG mistake! Buckle up , Blast. You just lit a fire that you won't be able to put out.
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Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?


Thanks 91 AAAA dad. Wait till, they're not a box team.
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Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?


91 AA has regained the top spot on LI. The boys easily beat Express. For all of the Express parents' talk, they certainly appeared to have lost a step to 91. They were out-hustled and overmatched in every facet of the game. AA clearly working harder in the offseason.
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Yes , a sure sign of things to come.


Don’t poke the bear, Blastards.


So the team that practices box lacrosse (no faceoffs, no defense, no attack) every winter for 4 years beat a team that never practices box lacrosse and now they are posting that Express is done? Oh man, you guys are making a BIG mistake! Buckle up , Blast. You just lit a fire that you won't be able to put out.



This is hysterical. "You just lit a fire"....is mommy going to go out and play?
Funniest comment I’ve read - assuming you are kidding. I’m a guy whose sons play outdoor and box - you can not compare the 2 games AT ALL! The strategies are completely different as is the pace, of course there are similarities, but it takes a while to adjust to box. Knowing 91 has been running box for years gives them a clear advantage only in box. Express is still the team to beat IMO at the 2025 level, then 91 Maryland, then maybe 91 LI. You can’t claim supremacy from box - that’s laughable.
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Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?


91 AA has regained the top spot on LI. The boys easily beat Express. For all of the Express parents' talk, they certainly appeared to have lost a step to 91. They were out-hustled and overmatched in every facet of the game. AA clearly working harder in the offseason.


Congratulations to the boys! Job well done.
Who cares it's box and people do other things like go away skiing . Nobody cares .

We will see who the top team is in the spring on the real field . 91 will be busy losing to town teams while express is destroying the Hawks and other good teams . Stand down 91 dad,you're a fool .

Only a 91 dad would get excited about box . Lol
91 dads trying to stay relevant ....funny
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Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?


91 AA has regained the top spot on LI. The boys easily beat Express. For all of the Express parents' talk, they certainly appeared to have lost a step to 91. They were out-hustled and overmatched in every facet of the game. AA clearly working harder in the offseason.
Dont count your Chickens, BOX different game, and not all the kids play.
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Any feedback on that Battle at the barn Box Lacrosse tournament this weekend? Looks like Express should stick to field lax?


91 AA has regained the top spot on LI. The boys easily beat Express. For all of the Express parents' talk, they certainly appeared to have lost a step to 91. They were out-hustled and overmatched in every facet of the game. AA clearly working harder in the offseason.
You may be one of the biggest fools. How can you regain something you never had. Beat them outside , than you can talk .
Right now the 91 dads are high fiving ponytail saying " we beat express " lol. Focus on not losing to town teams , fools. See you in the spring ,actually I am guessing we won't as you don't make it very far in tournaments.
I heard Rebels beat Exp too. "Attention all Box players.. Players needed. Free orange jersey included" Long live 91!
Box is far different from field lax. 91 even had their custom Helmets which is an indication that they play it at a much more organized level. And it shows. They looked good. But it means nothing come March. Exp still will dominate outdoors. RUpoop won a few games and so did Rebels. Totally different game. Lets see in the Spring
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I heard Rebels beat Exp too. "Attention all Box players.. Players needed. Free orange jersey included" Long live 91!

Most of you people need some serious help. None of this matters. Keep the kids playing and loving to play. Most of you 5'6" 250lb Dads and Moms without an ounce of athletic ability are going to ruin this sport for your kids.
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Funniest comment I’ve read - assuming you are kidding. I’m a guy whose sons play outdoor and box - you can not compare the 2 games AT ALL! The strategies are completely different as is the pace, of course are similarities, but it takes a while to adjust to box. Knowing 91 has been running box for years gives them a clear advantage only in box. Express is still the team to beat IMO at the 2025 level, then 91 Maryland, then maybe 91 LI. You can’t claim supremacy from box - that’s laughable.


What’s laughable is that all of you Express parents can’t accept that your kids were beat by a superior team. Far superior. Box isn’t a completely different game. It’s still lacrosse. Kids still need high skills and high IQ; both of which 91 proved that they had the clear advantage. They are going into the season knowing that they are better, and that confidence will put them over the top. Hey, but tell your kid to keep working hard. Have him hit the wall for the rest of the winter. I know ours will be.
Superior at Box Lax, for that day, maybe. Superior on the field? Stop. Please see previous results. As a matter of fact, Im going to go as far to say that the Rebels team and the R U S H team will leapfrog 91 in Spring. 91 had a day at Box but in the spring, they will be loading their gear into a box and going home early.
It’s completely different guy. Stop it already. You sound ignorant or you are joking. It’s like a group of kids who play a lot of wiffle ball, they will probably beat a great baseball team, if they play in a wiffle ball tournament.
Typical 91 dad grasping at straws, I agree , ignorant and low intellect. Can’t say I’m surprised that’s what 91 is known to be , the lacrosse club of low intellect trash.
Do they have a Badmitton team? maybe they can form one so they have something to do at these tourneys when they dont make the Finals....
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Typical 91 dad grasping at straws, I agree , ignorant and low intellect. Can’t say I’m surprised that’s what 91 is known to be , the lacrosse club of low intellect trash.


Don't forget about stripper moms
Express is considered the best lacrosse team in the age group. By ALOT.
I'm hoping they are the greatest ever!
The only thing I do know is that on Sunday they apparently weren't the best at this other thing called BOX Lacrosse for whatever reason.
This OTHER thing happens to have the word Lacrosse in the name but has absolutely no connection the thing that they are THE BEST at.

ITs OK..
Everything will be OK.

Oh and 91 is the worst because everyone seems to think so. I heard they won't even qualify. Oh and EVERYONE hates them.
End of story.
As usual a thread with 91 parents involved goes down into the gutter ....maybe the 91 dads can pool their brains together to make one full brain and then that one full brain can post on here so they don't waste our time
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As usual a thread with 91 parents involved goes down into the gutter ....maybe the 91 dads can pool their brains together to make one full brain and then that one full brain can post on here so they don't waste our time


Express dads’ worlds came crumbling down on Sunday. Your boys lack the proper skill to hang with kids that are more determined, who work harder and are straight up better. Get used to this feeling. It’s going to be a long season for you guys.
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Do they have a Badmitton team? maybe they can form one so they have something to do at these tourneys when they dont make the Finals....


Badminton. Not badmitton. And, yes, they’re putting one together. And they’re going to be the best.
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Do they have a Badmitton team? maybe they can form one so they have something to do at these tourneys when they dont make the Finals....


Is a Badmitton a glove with a hole in it?
Outdoor results speak for themselves
Most of you people need some serious help. None of this matters. Keep the kids playing and loving to play. Most of you 5'6" 250lb Dads and Moms without an ounce of athletic ability are going to ruin this sport for your kids. [/quote]

I agree and I'll take it a step further: it's the Moms who have never played a sport in their lives yelling at their kid through plexiglass - please stay home
If Express parents truly believed their kids were better, they wouldn't even respond. Last year 91 beat Express. They will continue to do so this year. I can tell you for sure that no team is hungrier than they are.
YEEESSSSS!!! The fire on this board is back! Now lets pile on the rest of the club teams while we are at it!!!! "They had a bigger kid. He's older" "They recruit at games" And please lay off the Plexi-Moms ....those Moms are used to speaking to the father of their kid thru Plexiglass so please have a little compassion!.
Last year 91 beat express. Is that what you just said. They played like 5 or 6 times. How come no mention of the games that were lost. Now you are chirping because you beat them in box. Comical. The team that has a box coach as it’s head coach. The team that practices box all the time. The that team travels out of state to play box tournaments. The team that has its own box helmets and jerseys. Wouldn’t you say that 1 team has a slight advantage in box lacrosse. I’d say yes.
I’ll tell you what 91 beating Express at box signifies......without face offs, 91 is the better team. So step lightly Express parents. If your son is not the FOGO, your son is not that special. A solid player, no doubt. But not any better than any other 91 player.
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Last year 91 beat express. Is that what you just said. They played like 5 or 6 times. How come no mention of the games that were lost. Now you are chirping because you beat them in box. Comical. The team that has a box coach as it’s head coach. The team that practices box all the time. The that team travels out of state to play box tournaments. The team that has its own box helmets and jerseys. Wouldn’t you say that 1 team has a slight advantage in box lacrosse. I’d say yes.


Leave them their one win. Its all theyre gonna get this year. They better hope Roar doesnt go to the WSYL qualifier or they may not qualify for Denver.
WOW ROAR...... LOW BLOW!
I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.
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I’ll tell you what 91 beating Express at box signifies......without face offs, 91 is the better team. So step lightly Express parents. If your son is not the FOGO, your son is not that special. A solid player, no doubt. But not any better than any other 91 player.


Or actual defenders playing defense. Or a goalie playing like a field goalie. 91 subs their defenders to play on defense and their attack and mids to play offense. Express let all the kids run and try to score. Our boys just played to have fun and see if defenders could score some goals. 91 played like they thought they were in Denver.
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I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.
So 91 played organized box and played like they were trying to win?? Hmmmm...that seems a little unfair!😂😂😂
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So 91 played organized box and played like they were trying to win?? Hmmmm...that seems a little unfair!😂😂😂


Not unfair at all. Just stating that Express plays box tourneys so the boys can get out and have some fun. We don’t bring the boys to box practice. The coaches aren’t putting thought into box strategies. We just like watching our poles run and score with short sticks. IMO, 91 take it too seriously. Waaaay too seriously. And even with all that practice, that’s their only box win this year.
91 is the best box lacrosse team on Long Island. I don’t think anyone would dispute that. To be quite honest I don’t think anybody cares.I find it incredible that this is even a conversation.
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I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.


Now that is funny. Express has depth??!?! Then why do the same 10 kids never leave the field? You’re deluding yourself.
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I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.


Now that is funny. Express has depth??!?! Then why do the same 10 kids never leave the field? You’re deluding yourself.


91 dads love to push that narrative, but the fact is, all of our players play. Not equal minutes; the top players play more, but that’s what every team does. Every time we play 91, they run out the same 11-12 kids and the rest sit and watch so please get off of your soapbox.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.


Now that is funny. Express has depth??!?! Then why do the same 10 kids never leave the field? You’re deluding yourself.


91 dads love to push that narrative, but the fact is, all of our players play. Not equal minutes; the top players play more, but that’s what every team does. Every time we play 91, they run out the same 11-12 kids and the rest sit and watch so please get off of your soapbox.



Wait a second, that’s not true. 91 plays most or all of its 20 kids every game and Express plays all 35? I think I have to call bull donkey on that.
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I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.


Now that is funny. Express has depth??!?! Then why do the same 10 kids never leave the field? You’re deluding yourself.


91 dads love to push that narrative, but the fact is, all of our players play. Not equal minutes; the top players play more, but that’s what every team does. Every time we play 91, they run out the same 11-12 kids and the rest sit and watch so please get off of your soapbox.

Keep saying it. Doesn’t make it true.

20 kids in January. What’s that number going to be in 5 months.
Nobody cares about box ... This isn't Canada . The reason why 91 is good at box is becasue they play a speed game and love to hack, that sums it up.as for beating express on a real field......keep dreaming . Just as an example ....in the fall 91 lost to the Hawks and express followed that by spanking the Hawks 10-3. Not even on the same level as express so relax and be happy with the box wins . Go raise your fjnger in the air
91 plays all their guys
R U S H and IGLOO may beat them both!
That R U S H team is no joke. Don't know if they are at Express / 91 level, but a very good team.
How many spots with NE get for WSYL? 6 or 7?

Express, 91, Express North, Primetime are locks?

Do upstate NY or Mass teams try to qualify? Sweetlax, Orange Crush, Laxachusetts...

Remaining teams up for 2/3 spots: Igloo, Eclipse, R U S H, Millon Force, Regulators and/or ROAR, Rebels, S2S, True Blue, Legacy, Predators
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I can't understand how 91 can lose to town teams every summer. They are way too inconsistent to be considered an elite team. CSH certainly isn't considered elite.


The reality of the situation is the both 91 and Express have 2-3 "elite" level players each. The ones on Express are just better than 91's top players. The rest of the players are depth. They are all good, and some are very good, but they are role players at best and Express has more quality depth. And I say this as a father on one of the role players, so 91 dads don't get your panties in a bunch.


Now that is funny. Express has depth??!?! Then why do the same 10 kids never leave the field? You’re deluding yourself.


91 dads love to push that narrative, but the fact is, all of our players play. Not equal minutes; the top players play more, but that’s what every team does. Every time we play 91, they run out the same 11-12 kids and the rest sit and watch so please get off of your soapbox.



Wait a second, that’s not true. 91 plays most or all of its 20 kids every game and Express plays all 35? I think I have to call bull donkey on that.


Now it's 35? LOL! Express has a big roster, but it sits at 28 including goalies. Everyone plays. 91 has 20 and and 5 of those kids ride the bench when they get down against town teams. That organization is well run, with the exception of 2025. It has been the joke of the organization since they started.
Stop please saying that Express plays everyone we all know that is far from the truth , please let me know when you see kids on the sidelines that you have neve seen before and they are playing over your son ... This CoachC and how he does it is called $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.... does not care about the kids , if you think i am wrong Please ask the older parents who are on CoachC team ...... GOOD LUCK with the recruiting in a couple of years !!!!!! LOL
That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?
Competitive, but nothing to concern yourself with. What does that even mean? The only thing I’m concerned about is my son and the team he is on. This is the difference with sports today. Wack job fanatics who have nothing better to do then rip other teams. I played travel baseball my whole life. I can honestly say my dad never seemed concerned or worried how good the other travel teams were. When did normalcy change.
It changed when events like WSYL were created...All of these people living vicariously through their children and actually believing 12 year old lacrosse will make a difference in their lives....go figure.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.
Baseball is weak bro your on the wrong board. LAX IS LIFE if the kids travel team dont win u dont get da t shirt.
R U S H had some bigger kids but in field lacrosse that wont help. It will actually work against them. I saw them and they dont look skilled. They remind me of Millon Force on growth hormones. Chan EXP is all small kids but they are quick and move the ball fast. 91 is built around 2-3 kids and dont play good team ball. Field lax is all about ball movement, not giving the rock to the biggest kid and have him try and dodge the alley every trip You dont move the ball and your gonna lose. Period. Ask Igloo, tru blue, S2S, Regulators. Rebels move the ball but they cant clear . That is their downfall. anyway, Exp is head and shoulders above them all.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.



I love when parents say you have to specialize in 1 sport then where their kids are in grade 11 or 12 and aren't the superstar they were in grade 6 they get that look like, what do we do now?????????????????????
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.



I love when parents say you have to specialize in 1 sport then where their kids are in grade 11 or 12 and aren't the superstar they were in grade 6 they get that look like, what do we do now?????????????????????



Exactly, I love this guys post. It's unreal how many of these kids that are specializing will get passed right by when Johnny Athlete decides to now really pay attention to Lacrosse..
Specializing do you mean club sports. My son pays club lax that’s it as far as club. To be quite honest between practices, training, tournaments and money, that’s probably all the club sports he can do. He plays school football, school wrestling, school lacrosse as well. But I guess he only specializes in lax, if that’s what you mean.
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Specializing do you mean club sports. My son pays club lax that’s it as far as club. To be quite honest between practices, training, tournaments and money, that’s probably all the club sports he can do. He plays school football, school wrestling, school lacrosse as well. But I guess he only specializes in lax, if that’s what you mean.


I mean there are many kids that play club soccer and school soccer, travel baseball and school baseball, travel football and school football, travel basketball and school basketball, travel ice hockey and school ice hockey. volleyball or wrestling.. in addition to lacrosse.

So to answer your question Yes you child specializes in lax.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.



I love when parents say you have to specialize in 1 sport then where their kids are in grade 11 or 12 and aren't the superstar they were in grade 6 they get that look like, what do we do now?????????????????????



Exactly, I love this guys post. It's unreal how many of these kids that are specializing will get passed right by when Johnny Athlete decides to now really pay attention to Lacrosse..
I love how you Parents, really think that Johnny Lax still exists. Very rare that happens. You know by *th grade what kids are going to make it. .
At that point they can play for Exp or 91..... They would love the extra income.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Specializing do you mean club sports. My son pays club lax that’s it as far as club. To be quite honest between practices, training, tournaments and money, that’s probably all the club sports he can do. He plays school football, school wrestling, school lacrosse as well. But I guess he only specializes in lax, if that’s what you mean.


I mean there are many kids that play club soccer and school soccer, travel baseball and school baseball, travel football and school football, travel basketball and school basketball, travel ice hockey and school ice hockey. volleyball or wrestling.. in addition to lacrosse.

So to answer your question Yes you child specializes in lax.


Ok, then in that case, the previous poster is incorrect. Having older kids (one HS senior and one sophomore in college), I've seen how this plays out. The kids who get recruited, go to top schools, and are generally the top players in their age group have, with no exceptions, all played competitive travel lax. In addition, they have almost all played other sports in MS and HS. Many at a very high level. I can not think of more than an athlete or two, from my youngest (2025) to my oldest that wasn't, by your definition, a "multi-sport" athlete.

When someone says that their child specializes in a sport, it means that they play that sport exclusively, year round, with no time or interest in any other sports.

From my experience, the kids that were the best lacrosse players in 7th/8th were still very good as HS seniors. The only limiting factor was growth. Kids who were small and skilled, or developed earlier, could dominate in youth lacrosse. If they stay small, they become varsity role players. Every team needs them though. A kid who was skilled in MS then grows 10" and puts on 70 pounds, however, becomes dominant. But make no mistake, despite what your wife says, size matters.

This is just a reflection of my experience. Obviously there are exceptions (Brennan O'Neill may have focused on strictly lacrosse, for example), but thats what I've seen.
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That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.


#1: We all have multi sport athletes.

#2: Maybe in HS things may change, but right now, we are a weaker group than the 3 grades above and below us.

#3: Wait til puberty. Until then, no one has any idea.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.


#1: We all have multi sport athletes.

#2: Maybe in HS things may change, but right now, we are a weaker group than the 3 grades above and below us.

#3: Wait til puberty. Until then, no one has any idea.


Stop saying rational stuff like Wait until Puberty. 2025 parents are the craziest on this forum with an 82 page count. Anything other than complete insanity is not allowed in this age forum!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.


#1: We all have multi sport athletes.

#2: Maybe in HS things may change, but right now, we are a weaker group than the 3 grades above and below us.

#3: Wait til puberty. Until then, no one has any idea.


It all depends on the town you are from whether you can consider yourself a true multi sport athlete.

If you decided to go out for the middle school basketball team and they had 25-30 kids try out for 7/8th grade teams you don't have to put much effort into it. If you reside in certain towns where 160 kids try out for the same sport you can't just be an athlete and make the team. You have to put down the lax stick for a few months and play and practice basketball.

So I believe peoples definition of Multi-Sport Athlete absolutely varies.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.


#1: We all have multi sport athletes.

#2: Maybe in HS things may change, but right now, we are a weaker group than the 3 grades above and below us.

#3: Wait til puberty. Until then, no one has any idea.


It all depends on the town you are from whether you can consider yourself a true multi sport athlete.

If you decided to go out for the middle school basketball team and they had 25-30 kids try out for 7/8th grade teams you don't have to put much effort into it. If you reside in certain towns where 160 kids try out for the same sport you can't just be an athlete and make the team. You have to put down the lax stick for a few months and play and practice basketball.

So I believe peoples definition of Multi-Sport Athlete absolutely varies.


Agreed. Its all relative. Most of you people need to relax.
MultiSport Athletes.... PLEASE STOP THEY ARE KIDS! Maybe when they are full grown adults that label would apply. And for all of you misled wannabes's that think your kid and his "Travel Team" are the greatest thing ever...You need to wake up too. 75% of these kids will be in the drama club or smooching girls in the next 2 years and your dreams of a world class lax kid are OVER. If you think otherwise then you are a fool. Ask yourself: When you were 12 what did you want to be? And then go look in the mirror!!! Put that in your travel lax pipe and choke on it. 91, express, Joe Blow Lax...ALL THE SAME GARBAGE WITH A DIFFERENT STINK. Anyone else have anything notIntelligent to say?
sonned

1) The action of being capable of calling someone else "son", in a derogatory sense.

example: Everyone just got sonned on this board...
sonned

1) The action of being capable of calling someone else "son", in a derogatory sense.

example: Everyone just got sonned on this board...
I do have something non intelligent to say. What on earth are you people even talking about? Usually there is a topic or point to a conversation.
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MultiSport Athletes.... PLEASE STOP THEY ARE KIDS! Maybe when they are full grown adults that label would apply. And for all of you misled wannabes's that think your kid and his "Travel Team" are the greatest thing ever...You need to wake up too. 75% of these kids will be in the drama club or smooching girls in the next 2 years and your dreams of a world class lax kid are OVER. If you think otherwise then you are a fool. Ask yourself: When you were 12 what did you want to be? And then go look in the mirror!!! Put that in your travel lax pipe and choke on it. 91, express, Joe Blow Lax...ALL THE SAME GARBAGE WITH A DIFFERENT STINK. Anyone else have anything notIntelligent to say?


Truth
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is a familiar sentiment among all the teams. The 25's are in disarray... except for Exp Ch....oiled machine..... R U S H isnt that good. Competitive but nothing to concern yourself with. So far I havent seen any stand out teams. Teams with potential, but all have major flaws. WSYL is a joke. Move it to East coast and call it the LI Invitational..... then it may be worth participating.


I think only top 4 teams should go... remaining qualifers are just cannon fodder. Love the idea of moving it to east coast. Has there been a team outside the tri-state area that's made it to the championship game?


Realistically, you can send the top 12 teams. All but Express are just going out there to see mountains. If 91 AAAA plays a complete game (something it seems incapable of doing against competitive teams) then they are still a very distant 2nd. I agree with the poster that, despite our rose colored views, our boys are playing in a relatively weak LI class. Maybe next year when teams start really consolidating and the holdbacks are fully through puberty you may see some teams make a jump, but right now it's Express and everybody else. I saw 91 at the box tourney. Some of those kids are the smallest in the grade level. It may take years for them to catch up unless they replace them next year. R U S H seemed much improved due to recruiting big kids. Watch for that trend to continue.


I have to say I have a much different opinion of this age group as I have a multi sport athlete and in all other sports this grade is actually more advanced then the grades above and below them. So I believe what you have is a changing in thought process of specialization in one sport until they get to HS which I personally think is a positive.

In the next year or 2 when this grade decides to direct their energy into 1 or maybe 2 sports instead of 4 or 5 then I think you will see 2 things happen. The grade will be as good or better then the grades around it and the kids that have specialized in lacrosse at 10/11/12 will get passed by the true athletes of the age group when they dedicate themselves to their craft.


#1: We all have multi sport athletes.

#2: Maybe in HS things may change, but right now, we are a weaker group than the 3 grades above and below us.

#3: Wait til puberty. Until then, no one has any idea.


It all depends on the town you are from whether you can consider yourself a true multi sport athlete.

If you decided to go out for the middle school basketball team and they had 25-30 kids try out for 7/8th grade teams you don't have to put much effort into it. If you reside in certain towns where 160 kids try out for the same sport you can't just be an athlete and make the team. You have to put down the lax stick for a few months and play and practice basketball.

So I believe peoples definition of Multi-Sport Athlete absolutely varies.


That might be the densest thing anyone has ever said on this thread. Multi-sport is not an ambiguous term. Either you play multiple sports or you don’t.

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.
WOW That just about summed it up
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WOW That just about summed it up


I guess sometimes you need to break things down for the simple or "Dense" people... haha
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.


Wait, are we still talking about middle schoolers?? For a minute it seemed like you freaks may have been talking about your older varsity level kids. Ultra competitive middle school basketball? Do you nerds read what you write? Wow. Talk about unnecessary pressure from an overcompensating father. It must stink being your kid.
Can we get back on point: The farse known as 7th Grade travel lacrosse, crazy parents taking it too seriously and the modern day scam known as WSYL .... C'mon people...stay on target.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.


100 kids try out for basketball... and every single parent and coach knows which 15 kids are going to make the team before tryouts even start. Your kid is not going from #90 to #15. Give it a rest, pops. Middle school sports are little less than filters to weed out the kids whose parents buy them trophies and whose grandparents call them "champ" before they get to high school. This must be your oldest kid, because you are clueless.
Can we get back on point: The farse known as 7th Grade travel lacrosse, crazy parents taking it too seriously and the modern day scam known as WSYL .... C'mon people...stay on target.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.


100 kids try out for basketball... and every single parent and coach knows which 15 kids are going to make the team before tryouts even start. Your kid is not going from #90 to #15. Give it a rest, pops. Middle school sports are little less than filters to weed out the kids whose parents buy them trophies and whose grandparents call them "champ" before they get to high school. This must be your oldest kid, because you are clueless.


Maybe in your town it’s easy.. but in certain towns the 30th kid probably starts in your town in all sports from 7th grade through 12th but he’s on the outside looking in at certain school.

In some towns we have kids that don’t make the baseball team or the volleyball team that get offers from schools.

Almost like being in certain catholic schools.

Regardless I know you guys have it all figured out so we can move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.


100 kids try out for basketball... and every single parent and coach knows which 15 kids are going to make the team before tryouts even start. Your kid is not going from #90 to #15. Give it a rest, pops. Middle school sports are little less than filters to weed out the kids whose parents buy them trophies and whose grandparents call them "champ" before they get to high school. This must be your oldest kid, because you are clueless.


Maybe in your town it’s easy.. but in certain towns the 30th kid probably starts in your town in all sports from 7th grade through 12th but he’s on the outside looking in at certain school.

In some towns we have kids that don’t make the baseball team or the volleyball team that get offers from schools.

Almost like being in certain catholic schools.

Regardless I know you guys have it all figured out so we can move on.


Yeah, your kid is so good at 7th grade baseball and volleyball, but he can’t make the teams. I get that you tell him that he’s good enough to play varsity in most other schools, and that may even help him (And you) sleep at night, but don’t pedal that trash here because no one is buying it. You should take all of those offer from all of those schools recruiting your 7th grader (can’t believe you said that, btw), and pick one that he’ll play at. That way you can say he’s a multi-sport athlete.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe his point was that to make certain teams in certain towns you have dedicate more time to that sport than in others that basically a decent athlete can walk on to the team. Which makes total sense.

For example If you want to play basketball in farmingdale you probably won’t have as much time to practice lax as the kid from wading river that doesn’t have to compete against a 100 kids for 15 basketball spots.

Makes sense to me. But you must live in one of those small towns and can’t understand the point.


100 kids try out for basketball... and every single parent and coach knows which 15 kids are going to make the team before tryouts even start. Your kid is not going from #90 to #15. Give it a rest, pops. Middle school sports are little less than filters to weed out the kids whose parents buy them trophies and whose grandparents call them "champ" before they get to high school. This must be your oldest kid, because you are clueless.


Maybe in your town it’s easy.. but in certain towns the 30th kid probably starts in your town in all sports from 7th grade through 12th but he’s on the outside looking in at certain school.

In some towns we have kids that don’t make the baseball team or the volleyball team that get offers from schools.

Almost like being in certain catholic schools.

Regardless I know you guys have it all figured out so we can move on.


Now THIS is funny! You must be so proud that your mediocre 7th grade kid is getting recruited by multiple schools to play sports that he got cut from!!! I'm dying right now! lol!
NO KID IS GETTING RECRUITED IN 7th GRADE FOR LACROSSE , YOU ARE A COMPLETE stunad
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz BOOOOOOOORRRING!
Sounds as though it is time for the return of the Mixed Nuts, High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy! Can I get a heck Yeah!
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Sounds as though it is time for the return of the Mixed Nuts, High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy! Can I get a heck Yeah!


The greatest team ever assembled!! And those coaches were hysterical!
Mixed Nuts was cute gig 3 years ago. Since then most of those kids have turned into prunes.... Mix that!
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Mixed Nuts was cute gig 3 years ago. Since then most of those kids have turned into prunes.... Mix that!


Yeah, all decent players, but that team would struggle now. That's what happens. Kids grow. Who came up with High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy? That's freaking funny! And accurate! lol!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mixed Nuts was cute gig 3 years ago. Since then most of those kids have turned into prunes.... Mix that!


Yeah, all decent players, but that team would struggle now. That's what happens. Kids grow. Who came up with High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy? That's freaking funny! And accurate! lol!


Let’s leave that disaster behind us. The most annoying coaches and parents I’ve ever encountered. None of them knew a thing about lax and It was painfully obvious.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mixed Nuts was cute gig 3 years ago. Since then most of those kids have turned into prunes.... Mix that!


Yeah, all decent players, but that team would struggle now. That's what happens. Kids grow. Who came up with High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy? That's freaking funny! And accurate! lol!


Let’s leave that disaster behind us. The most annoying coaches and parents I’ve ever encountered. None of them knew a thing about lax and It was painfully obvious.


Undefeated is a pretty good record. Imagine if they knew anything about lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mixed Nuts was cute gig 3 years ago. Since then most of those kids have turned into prunes.... Mix that!


Yeah, all decent players, but that team would struggle now. That's what happens. Kids grow. Who came up with High Pitch Eric and Sweaty Bald Guy? That's freaking funny! And accurate! lol!


Let’s leave that disaster behind us. The most annoying coaches and parents I’ve ever encountered. None of them knew a thing about lax and It was painfully obvious.


Undefeated is a pretty good record. Imagine if they knew anything about lax.


Get the band back together so we can go beat Express again.
Not sure where Rebels will stand in wsyl but they have put in a unbelievable amount of time and practice. Coaches are passionate and totally dedicated . Thanks to the coaches and organization. Job well done
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where Rebels will stand in wsyl but they have put in a unbelievable amount of time and practice. Coaches are passionate and totally dedicated . Thanks to the coaches and organization. Job well done


Couldn’t you just send your coaches a private email thanking them?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure where Rebels will stand in wsyl but they have put in a unbelievable amount of time and practice. Coaches are passionate and totally dedicated . Thanks to the coaches and organization. Job well done


Couldn’t you just send your coaches a private email thanking them?


Why? Rebels reads and anonymously posts to BOTC all the time. It could evenbe one of them posting this.
Has anyone taken their kid to the Turtle Dome shooting clinic? $25 seems like a good deal. I took my kid to the Athlete Zone and the owner, or whoever he was, wanted to sell me a package for $600. The Turtle Dome is $15 less than the AZ. Is there a gate keeper at the Turtle Dome trying to talk you out of $600... Used Car Salesmen with greasy hair!
Where is turtle dome
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone taken their kid to the Turtle Dome shooting clinic? $25 seems like a good deal. I took my kid to the Athlete Zone and the owner, or whoever he was, wanted to sell me a package for $600. The Turtle Dome is $15 less than the AZ. Is there a gate keeper at the Turtle Dome trying to talk you out of $600... Used Car Salesmen with greasy hair!


Gotta watch the Zone very sneaky over there . They keep log of your clinics in a a book which is always closed and put away . There are many other places with better coaches . Turtle done is a new place I heard with affordable clinics . GLE and dynamic .
the Best is to reach out th a H.S kid meet him at a field and pay him . Some clinics out there total money grab . Especially faceoff the nerve to charge anywhere from $40 to $60 with 15-20 kids there .
Alot of practice for Rebels....Big deal. Express is practicing all the time too. Rebels gonna beat them? They will see if all that practice was worth it another month.
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Alot of practice for Rebels....Big deal. Express is practicing all the time too. Rebels gonna beat them? They will see if all that practice was worth it another month.


Actually, that doesn't matter either. They will see in 4 years if it was worth it. Travel lax wins in 7th grade don't matter. WS invites and wins don't matter. What happens junior year is what matters.
For a team that prides itself on being LI's top box team, 91 AAAAA sure does lose a lot to no-name teams. I guess the Philly area is the strongest region south of the border for box lax.
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For a team that prides itself on being LI's top box team, 91 AAAAA sure does lose a lot to no-name teams. I guess the Philly area is the strongest region south of the border for box lax.


7/8 division from what I can tell, were you there or are you just a troll?

And I didn’t realize the meadowlands was near Philly, maybe you need a map and to pay attention to your own kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For a team that prides itself on being LI's top box team, 91 AAAAA sure does lose a lot to no-name teams. I guess the Philly area is the strongest region south of the border for box lax.


Well, that’s been the knock on them. Very good team, but not enough big horses to win the race. Losing to town teams annually just solidified this. If one kid is off, they’re shot.
That’s what’s wrong with some people. Look at the previous post. The guy said “win the race.” In my eyes the race is about my son succeeding. First academically. Being that we are on a lacrosse site, the race is playing well in high school. Maybe if he chooses past high school. That’s the race. Not the teams youth lacrosse record. Some people just don’t grasp this. Usually these people, this is their oldest kid. People who have been through this know better.
Who cares about 91 box? Field and Box are apples and oranges. 91 box is as interesting as Rebels having alot of practices. Irrelevant.. This board is diluted with nonsense. At least in 2 months tournaments begin so all of this can be resolved on the filed. And by resolved I mean the parents can continue to act like stunads as the kids dont care
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That’s what’s wrong with some people. Look at the previous post. The guy said “win the race.” In my eyes the race is about my son succeeding. First academically. Being that we are on a lacrosse site, the race is playing well in high school. Maybe if he chooses past high school. That’s the race. Not the teams youth lacrosse record. Some people just don’t grasp this. Usually these people, this is their oldest kid. People who have been through this know better.


OKS.... Oldest Kid Syndrome. There is no cure.
AGREED ... this is a long race and the people who have been through it before are the ones that will come out on the other side ahead of everyone
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For a team that prides itself on being LI's top box team, 91 AAAAA sure does lose a lot to no-name teams. I guess the Philly area is the strongest region south of the border for box lax.


7/8 division from what I can tell, were you there or are you just a troll?

And I didn’t realize the meadowlands was near Philly, maybe you need a map and to pay attention to your own kid.


It doesn't matter. People are always going to be jealous because their isn't good enough to make 91. Every time we lose, out come the trolls. It's getting insane.
Win or lose does it really mater? In what environment does it matter? Jealous of what? When your sitting around with other lax parents do you re-live 12 yr old lacrosse games? "wow, did you see Johnny scored 3 goals?" Oh my god, thats amazing. we will all sleep so much better! GET A LIFE ! And whats this 'we" stuff.... THEY THE KIDS!!! The kids lost...you are just a lost!
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AGREED ... this is a long race and the people who have been through it before are the ones that will come out on the other side ahead of everyone


So basically your older kids were a test run and they are currently the team manager at SUNY Farmingdale.. Now you have it all figured out because your older, wiser and probably fatter than the first time you went through this. Stop pontificating because your just as bad as all these other poor souls that think their kids are the next Hopkins or Duke Stud.. Everyone on this forum definitely is a little over the top..You just like to think, Well I'm not crazy I just hop on BOTC to see all these crazy dads and moms but in reality your just as crazy...
I see True Blue is in the qualifier. I noticed they have a 2nd team now at this age. Their 2025 team last year was solid.
7th grade lacrosse is the mecca of life! Nothing else matters! Play for a "top" team and etch your name in glory for eternity! I cant wait to sort this all out in denver. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
AGREED ... this is a long race and the people who have been through it before are the ones that will come out on the other side ahead of everyone


So basically your older kids were a test run and they are currently the team manager at SUNY Farmingdale.. Now you have it all figured out because your older, wiser and probably fatter than the first time you went through this. Stop pontificating because your just as bad as all these other poor souls that think their kids are the next Hopkins or Duke Stud.. Everyone on this forum definitely is a little over the top..You just like to think, Well I'm not crazy I just hop on BOTC to see all these crazy dads and moms but in reality your just as crazy...


Not at all. Having older kids affords me valuable insight. I am acutely aware that very few of the boys are going to have successful DI careers. The top 8-10 kids in the grade will be recruited and the rest will have to work very hard to be noticed and/or garner the attention of coaches. They will need film, they will need to attend prospect camps, they will need to put up high varsity numbers. You think because your kids plays for a top club in 7th grade that his ride is on its way. That's idiotic. There are no full rides. If you are the top recruit in the nation you may get full tuition (about 50% of the total cost). Top 10 in the nation may get you 1/2 tuition (1/4 of the total cost). if your son is just a very good player, but not ranked nationally in the top 10-20, he may get $5000 and a meal plan. That's the reality and anyone that tells you different is lying to you. That's the perspective I've gained from having an older son (who played on a top club) go through the process. But hey, your kid has a shiny helmet. So there's that, I guess.
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I see True Blue is in the qualifier. I noticed they have a 2nd team now at this age. Their 2025 team last year was solid.


I'm only here for the replies to this!!
Untrue Who? STOP with that
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see True Blue is in the qualifier. I noticed they have a 2nd team now at this age. Their 2025 team last year was solid.


Solid? I don't think they won a single game this fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see True Blue is in the qualifier. I noticed they have a 2nd team now at this age. Their 2025 team last year was solid.


Solid? I don't think they won a single game this fall.


That was because they took like 40+ players and have like a team and a half. And some go to some tourneys and vice versa. Don’t know who would sign up for that, but oh well. I suspect the WSYL team won’t have any players who are tweeners and might even have some young 2024s. I have no knowledge, just speculating. But why not put the best age appropriate kids out there? You already have the hybrid system going.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.


Maybe. But you can't ask a goalie to stand on his head every game.
Even the best goalies at this age are gonna let in more than they save.

Unless TB has overhauled the entire offense, it doesn't matter who you have in the cage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.


Gee thanks, goalie dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.


Maybe. But you can't ask a goalie to stand on his head every game.
Even the best goalies at this age are gonna let in more than they save.

Unless TB has overhauled the entire offense, it doesn't matter who you have in the cage


The 2024 team is very good and beat Taz last year. So add a couple of those age eligible kids and that would change the dynamic for them and a lot of teams. Just speculating, but I kinda hope they do it to mix it up and use the rules, not bend them like grade based.
TB has nothing. Their goalie is best kid on squad but he cant score, can he? They have no 91 or Coach C scraps. They have hitmen and outlaw castoffs along with PAL kids. In the fall they looked terrible. Not sure what changed in 3.5 months? Do you?
No one talking about the 24s....next board...move on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.


Maybe. But you can't ask a goalie to stand on his head every game.
Even the best goalies at this age are gonna let in more than they save.

Unless TB has overhauled the entire offense, it doesn't matter who you have in the cage


The 2024 team is very good and beat Taz last year. So add a couple of those age eligible kids and that would change the dynamic for them and a lot of teams. Just speculating, but I kinda hope they do it to mix it up and use the rules, not bend them like grade based.
I believe that they beat them once 2 years ago, and that team is now Dismantled. So no need to worry about them. AT ALL
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TB has nothing. Their goalie is best kid on squad but he cant score, can he? They have no 91 or Coach C scraps. They have hitmen and outlaw castoffs along with PAL kids. In the fall they looked terrible. Not sure what changed in 3.5 months? Do you?


Their goalie plays for roar / regulators too
Take all 3 of those teams, make one and you still have nothing.
So what? Now he plays for 3 horrible teams. Who is the best teams out there and the worst ones?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TB has nothing. Their goalie is best kid on squad but he cant score, can he? They have no 91 or Coach C scraps. They have hitmen and outlaw castoffs along with PAL kids. In the fall they looked terrible. Not sure what changed in 3.5 months? Do you?


Their goalie plays for roar / regulators too


Goalie isn't the only one. 4 or 5 TB kids are playing for Regulators
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blew might not win a game all season. And neither will S2S They are both really bad


Throw Legacy in that group too.


I guess we will have to see won’t we. A lot of the teams you all mention have changed this year. True blue specifically had a number kids that have turned down coach C and 91 the past couple of seasons. They also might have the best goalie in the age group. So we will see.


True Blue's goalie is good but he's comparable to Express and 91's goalies. He might be a touch better than one or the other, but nothing earth-shattering.
I guess that explains the poor level of play.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TB has nothing. Their goalie is best kid on squad but he cant score, can he? They have no 91 or Coach C scraps. They have hitmen and outlaw castoffs along with PAL kids. In the fall they looked terrible. Not sure what changed in 3.5 months? Do you?


Their goalie plays for roar / regulators too


Goalie isn't the only one. 4 or 5 TB kids are playing for Regulators


Actually your wrong. Goalie does play for Regulators but not ROAR. They do have kids from all programs now. In Fall they were playing alot of what is now the B team kids to see who was useful for the spring and summer. Because Fall Tourneys are BS anyway. Too Be honest Express is def the top of heap but 91 is a very distant second.

But seriously for you to know this much about other 7th grade lax teams is pathetic. Almost Stalkerish... Get a life
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TB has nothing. Their goalie is best kid on squad but he cant score, can he? They have no 91 or Coach C scraps. They have hitmen and outlaw castoffs along with PAL kids. In the fall they looked terrible. Not sure what changed in 3.5 months? Do you?


It’s bad enough the kids are forced to sit on the sidelines by their parents, must you call them scraps?
The history of humanity is a book written in blood. We’re all just animals in a pit.
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Take all 3 of those teams, make one and you still have nothing.


I think some of you people are going to be surprised at the qualifier. Teams are not announcing it, but most are bringing in 3-4 age appropriate game-changing players to get to Denver. You have no idea what's going to happen. I know of one LI team that brought in a '24 FOGO and big middie. No one will beat the FOGO and no one has a kid that matches up with the middie. I know that Primetime and some of the upstate clubs are making teams specifically for this event. See you there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Take all 3 of those teams, make one and you still have nothing.


I think some of you people are going to be surprised at the qualifier. Teams are not announcing it, but most are bringing in 3-4 age appropriate game-changing players to get to Denver. You have no idea what's going to happen. I know of one LI team that brought in a '24 FOGO and big middie. No one will beat the FOGO and no one has a kid that matches up with the middie. I know that Primetime and some of the upstate clubs are making teams specifically for this event. See you there.


As they all should. You go there to win. The rules say age based. So go get the best you can or stay home. There is no winning the right way nonsense. It’s about winning, and that comes from club directors. So if your son is a 3rd line middie, or the 5th or 6th attackmen or defensemen or the backup goalie. You’ll likely be miserable on the 4th of July.
You get the best you can before the season starts. Recruiting kids, tryouts, practices etc. Then you play with what you got. If you lose, too bad that’s life. This is your team. This is who the coaches and directors picked to play. You sink or you swim with your guys. That’s what separates winners and losers. Not talking about lax scores. I’m talking winners in life. More important than a lax tournament. PS my son will play no matter who is brought in. He is friends and has camaraderie with his teammates, I don’t want to see 4 or 5 strange kids in a few months on the field with my son. I also wouldn’t want to be one of those parents whose son switched teams. Some kids wearing different jerseys at different tournaments, bouncing team to team. I detest to tell you, wearing a jersey for a tournament doesn’t put you on a team.
What does that mean bringing kids in? What am I missing? Your saying teams are getting kids to leave their current teams, that they have been playing for all year. Every good lacrosse player as far as I know are playing club lax. Do they then play for 2 teams the last month or 2.
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What does that mean bringing kids in? What am I missing? Your saying teams are getting kids to leave their current teams, that they have been playing for all year. Every good lacrosse player as far as I know are playing club lax. Do they then play for 2 teams the last month or 2.


They will play for their 2024 team all season, but they will also practice and play with their 2025 team for 2 tourneys, the qualifier, and then in Denver. Young 2024’s that meet the age requirement I’m referring to. Every team is doing it. And if they’re not, they shouldn’t bother going to the qualifier. Some teams are stacked and no one has a clue yet. And I’m not talking about 91 and the Wolfpack goalie and those 2 middies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You get the best you can before the season starts. Recruiting kids, tryouts, practices etc. Then you play with what you got. If you lose, too bad that’s life. This is your team. This is who the coaches and directors picked to play. You sink or you swim with your guys. That’s what separates winners and losers. Not talking about lax scores. I’m talking winners in life. More important than a lax tournament. PS my son will play no matter who is brought in. He is friends and has camaraderie with his teammates, I don’t want to see 4 or 5 strange kids in a few months on the field with my son. I also wouldn’t want to be one of those parents whose son switched teams. Some kids wearing different jerseys at different tournaments, bouncing team to team. I detest to tell you, wearing a jersey for a tournament doesn’t put you on a team.


Unfortunately, you would have no say in that. Greed drives this scene. Clubs that win can post it on social media and more people will come to tryouts. More money for directors. You mean nothing to them. Friendships and camaraderie??? Those words are empty and meaningless to your coaches and directors. It’s about winning, college commitments, money and nothing else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What does that mean bringing kids in? What am I missing? Your saying teams are getting kids to leave their current teams, that they have been playing for all year. Every good lacrosse player as far as I know are playing club lax. Do they then play for 2 teams the last month or 2.


Sweet lax and Primetime do it, and likely others. Honestly, if the World Series stays viable, it will be the model. The “7th grade” team picked in August doesn’t have to be the defacto World Series team.
Look at the newspapers and the news right now. All people are talking about are the Houston Astros. They won a World Series a couple years ago. The team executives and players are apologizing. Why are they doing this? They are doing this because it was a garbage win, that’s why. I get that the Astros were i cheating and the stuff we are discussing technically isn’t cheating, I understand that. But the truth of the matter is its borderline garbage. I’d personally rather my sons team lose and battle their butt off, then win like garbage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see True Blue is in the qualifier. I noticed they have a 2nd team now at this age. Their 2025 team last year was solid.


I'm only here for the replies to this!!


JC hasn't been able to qualify in each of the past 2 years, and his 23 and 24 teams have been head and shoulders above the 25 group. Unless they are taking 10 teams from the north, I don't see True Blue traveling anywhere in July.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the newspapers and the news right now. All people are talking about are the Houston Astros. They won a World Series a couple years ago. The team executives and players are apologizing. Why are they doing this? They are doing this because it was a garbage win, that’s why. I get that the Astros were i cheating and the stuff we are discussing technically isn’t cheating, I understand that. But the truth of the matter is its borderline garbage. I’d personally rather my sons team lose and battle their butt off, then win like garbage.


You're comparing the inner workings of MLB to 12 year old lacrosse. Okay. Listen, when your son hits H.S., come back and tell me if this really mattered. You have no clue!
Some of these kids will be playing HS next year. Besides that’s not the point. Point is winning like trash at any age is a disgrace.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Look at the newspapers and the news right now. All people are talking about are the Houston Astros. They won a World Series a couple years ago. The team executives and players are apologizing. Why are they doing this? They are doing this because it was a garbage win, that’s why. I get that the Astros were i cheating and the stuff we are discussing technically isn’t cheating, I understand that. But the truth of the matter is its borderline garbage. I’d personally rather my sons team lose and battle their butt off, then win like garbage.


You're comparing the inner workings of MLB to 12 year old lacrosse. Okay. Listen, when your son hits H.S., come back and tell me if this really mattered. You have no clue!


The perception feels like most clubs and coaches value winning and don’t develop the roster, just wreck confidence with false hopes and encouragement. So stay within rules and put the best team together to win.
So it sounds like it should be age appropriate teams on grade? Would kinda be like that if NY didn’t have the bizarre December 1 cutoff date. It should be September 1st, beginning of the school year. My son has an October birthday and I wish we held him for reasons other than sports, but would never consider it now for just lax. However, I see how much more of an impact he would have playing down. It’s a clear advantage. So not really making point here, but I see why we all get so nutty over the grade/age/holdback debate that endlessly rages on.
Where are the teams listed?
Stop thinking that 8th graders contribute on the Varsity go tell your friends anther story ....
Teams for what?
Who are the projected top teams teams that will most likely quailfy from the Northeast? Exp Chan, 91, Exp North, Laxachusetts, 3D NE Red, Prime Time, Sweet Lax & who else? Orange Crush? Igloo? R U S H ? Edge?

Tru Blue, Eclipse, Legacy, Rebels, Force, Regulators, S2S? Arent they all a few steps below from the above teams?
WHO CARES IT MEANS NOTHING IN THE LONG RUN !!!!! WAKE UP WITH MONEY GRABS !!!!!!
just curious becasue there are a lot of teams . My kids playing the qualifiers and I want to see if I has to escrow money now for a lacrosse tournament that will cost me $6000 and Door_Open_And up my summer. all for a t shirt and plastic trophy.
Qualify to spend $10k to play games against teams you can play here on the east coast ... Also did i mention the kids are 13 years old and this will all mean nothing in the end ... WAKE UP
I agree. so what if your kids team qualifies and the program wants to go and has no chance of winning? Dont these teams know this? most parents dont even want to go but get strong armed by the club. If any of you Team "Directors" or owners or whatever your called are reading this, why dont you have the common courtesy to ask teh parents what they think about denver before forcing it on them? I bet more thann 1/2 say no way
10k, common. It’s a lot, but not that much. Maybe 5k. I agree with your post. Truth is and I don’t care what anyone says. This a huge money grab. Most of this club lacrosse is. Even that UMass warrior thing we get emails for. Huge money grab as well. I heard every kid that tries out makes the team. How can something be a tryout, if everyone makes it. They should call it an expensive practice. Parents should know before the season starts that their sons team is trying to qualify in April for Denver. This isn’t a surprise. Now April is rolling around soon and people are starting to shake and get alligator arms reaching for their checkbook. I understand, it’s a lot of money, but we knew this going in. So now the choice is simple. If your sons team qualifies, you find away to pay it, like myself.(I’m not rich). Second choice is, your sons team qualifies, you tell your son, he can’t go with his team. If he is a good player this hurts the team. Plus I’m sure this hurt your son as well. Obviously if the team doesn’t qualify, no choice needed. This is how it is. This is what sports today has become. This isn’t for cheap people. This isn’t for poor people. This is very, very expensive. We all had the option before the season to not do this.
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10k, common. It’s a lot, but not that much. Maybe 5k. I agree with your post. Truth is and I don’t care what anyone says. This a huge money grab. Most of this club lacrosse is. Even that UMass warrior thing we get emails for. Huge money grab as well. I heard every kid that tries out makes the team. How can something be a tryout, if everyone makes it. They should call it an expensive practice. Parents should know before the season starts that their sons team is trying to qualify in April for Denver. This isn’t a surprise. Now April is rolling around soon and people are starting to shake and get alligator arms reaching for their checkbook. I understand, it’s a lot of money, but we knew this going in. So now the choice is simple. If your sons team qualifies, you find away to pay it, like myself.(I’m not rich). Second choice is, your sons team qualifies, you tell your son, he can’t go with his team. If he is a good player this hurts the team. Plus I’m sure this hurt your son as well. Obviously if the team doesn’t qualify, no choice needed. This is how it is. This is what sports today has become. This isn’t for cheap people. This isn’t for poor people. This is very, very expensive. We all had the option before the season to not do this.

Why call it a money grab? Its a money dump. These places run businesses. They're goal is to make money. You're upset that they are doing that? Its a World Class experience if you ask anyone that has gone. As a team we decided not to qualify and Im happy to say Ill be going to the money grab known as The Outer Banks. While there we are going to pay a whole heck of a lot of money for a house someone built with the intention to rent it out and make money. At no point did I get mad at them and call it a money grab. Its a transaction.
If you son is a stud player and decides not to go they will not do a thing to him because in the long run the program does not want to lose him so don't get caught up in the garbage threats
Shouldnt the team along with the parents make this choice or at least have this conversation? As for the kids? You can ask them if they want to go to China and swim in the Corona pool and they will say yes. 9 out of 10 of these kids could care a less....
Does anyone know how many teams will qualify from the North region? Previous years it was 6 with the exception of last year in which they took 7.

South: 2 teams confirmed
West: 4 teams confirmed
East: 4 teams?
Central: 4 teams?
International: 4 teams?

North: 6 teams?
As many teams that want to pony up the $$. Heck, My PAL team could go if WSYL needs filler...Write the check sir and yo too can get group pic with a mountain backdrop.
North Regional WSYL teams.

https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.leagueapps.com/tournaments/1220659/standings
Is that the closed list or can more teams sign up? I don't see several of the "better" teams on there
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Would love to see Regulators & True Blue play against each other!! Maybe the goalie (and other TB kids) will play one half for each team
I’d love to go out later, have a few drinks, a nice dinner, and hopefully get lucky. You would love to see true blue vs regulators, 2 teams your son don’t even play for. Do you the difference between someone like you and someone like me?
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All solid teams. But the top teams are just too good. Cool do the qualifier, but would you invest in a trip to Denver knowing you can’t win? I love the U13 concept, but is it worth going to go?
Does a team have to win to make it worthwhile? That’s a pretty high bar.
Win, no..be competetive and have a shot to make the championship? Yep. Travel across US for the best teams to beat the snot out of you? That aint worth $7000.
AMEN!

I would guess the qualifier would be one of the better tournaments to go to.
The best scenario to end this madness would be to win the qualifier then just refuse to go.
No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!
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No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!

Don't forget the mini warp stick.
I just had a good laugh, happened to look at us lax rankings for 2025, they have team 91 2025 ranked third, with the annapolis hawks below them....funny thing is team 91 has never beat the annapolis hawks, they even have CSH roar ranked 32 which beat team 91 2025 lol

I guess the rumor is true that 91 has "someone with their hand on the rankings" what a joke, now even the us lax rankings cant be taken seriously? they seem to control and corrupt everything they touch
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I would guess the qualifier would be one of the better tournaments to go to.


Yeah, but still not competitive. Rebels scrimmaged the Express over the weekend and I heard it wasn’t competitive at all.
the funny thing about this is they are Ranking 13 year old teams ... WHO CARES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know how many teams will qualify from the North region? Previous years it was 6 with the exception of last year in which they took 7.

South: 2 teams confirmed
West: 4 teams confirmed
East: 4 teams?
Central: 4 teams?
International: 4 teams?

North: 6 teams?

East team has sent 6 in the past.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just had a good laugh, happened to look at us lax rankings for 2025, they have team 91 2025 ranked third, with the annapolis hawks below them....funny thing is team 91 has never beat the annapolis hawks, they even have CSH roar ranked 32 which beat team 91 2025 lol

I guess the rumor is true that 91 has "someone with their hand on the rankings" what a joke, now even the us lax rankings cant be taken seriously? they seem to control and corrupt everything they touch


Why just make things up? Tourney Machine shows 91 beat Hawks last summer and Hawks won this fall. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your argument
who cares about 91? Let them spend their $ going to Denever to get punished by Exp Chanster! The point is denver is a scam and anyone that goes gets what they deserve. The utmost upside is a t shirt and a 40 min slot on ESPN 2 on a major holiday? If thats worth $8k to someone then they have deeper issues. If you want a "Free" warrior helmet (only if u make finals) you can buy one for $200 at Lax Unlimited. Ill be at teh beach with my son swimming and not even thinking about WSYL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!

Last year IGLOO was knocked out in thw qualifers, and becuase they need more teams they let them back in. Joke.. Thtournament is all about MONEY. WP bought the win last year. Express will win with the team they had for years.
And igloo went on the "we need more teams" invite? Shame on them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the funny thing about this is they are Ranking 13 year old teams ... WHO CARES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sounds like you care a lot!
There is 1 thing i care about and thats my wallet. I aint funding WSYL so a bunch of parents that got beat up in High School can feel good about themselves
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!


For the parents who think all this matters; Print the last couple of pages of this "blog" and put it away. In three years, take it back out and read through all the printed non-sense, and tell me if it was really worth it. When your kid hits 9th grade, the games begin. Oh, I forgot, not in all circumstances, but if your kid attends a H.S. with a weak lax program, forget about it, save your money. And don't tell me your kid was moved up to varsity in 8th or 9th grade, if you do, the first thing I'll ask you is what school district do you live in...If you kid is serious about playing, either you move to a top district or look into one of the top privates. If you're spending close to 10K on one tournament and not to knock, live in brentwood, deerpark, middle country, longwood, william floyd, Patmed, etc you have your priorities backwards. Maybe you have a outlier in the mix, but not often. Look into going private. Finally, remember, the kids who are so called studs now, may not carry the same status when they hit H.S.
The problem is they try to model the Little League World Series, but lacrosse is hot bed based in the country and established teams have kids that are not age eligible. If the World Series was grade based, more teams would go, but we now have the NLF summer championship, which is way better competition. If they take 6 or 7 teams from the North region it’s kinda silly. Maybe Team Illinois or the Sixers can compete with the North.
The above states it nicely but the short of it is WSYL is BS
LIEX playing in MD this weekend. Anyone else?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!


For the parents who think all this matters; Print the last couple of pages of this "blog" and put it away. In three years, take it back out and read through all the printed non-sense, and tell me if it was really worth it. When your kid hits 9th grade, the games begin. Oh, I forgot, not in all circumstances, but if your kid attends a H.S. with a weak lax program, forget about it, save your money. And don't tell me your kid was moved up to varsity in 8th or 9th grade, if you do, the first thing I'll ask you is what school district do you live in...If you kid is serious about playing, either you move to a top district or look into one of the top privates. If you're spending close to 10K on one tournament and not to knock, live in brentwood, deerpark, middle country, longwood, william floyd, Patmed, etc you have your priorities backwards. Maybe you have a outlier in the mix, but not often. Look into going private. Finally, remember, the kids who are so called studs now, may not carry the same status when they hit H.S.


This is rubbish. Plenty of kids from non-traditional powerhouse schools go on to play lacrosse in college. You are talking about uprooting your family to a new district, leaving friends, and starting a new school... just for lax??? I think you are the one with his priorities twisted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way any of these club teams have the stones to do that. They are all Sheep. baaaah! baaaaaah! But that would be awesome. How you like to be team that gets punished in qualifiers and still makes it because someone has to fill the slots? What then sheep? your really gonna extort ur paying parents to lead your sheeplings to the slaughterhouse when you know u aint got a shot? Pay me half of what ur payin these con artists and Ill throw a pizza party lacrosse day and allow your kids to go home with their pride. Heck, I'll even throw in a "free" t shirt. WHATEVER DUDE!


For the parents who think all this matters; Print the last couple of pages of this "blog" and put it away. In three years, take it back out and read through all the printed non-sense, and tell me if it was really worth it. When your kid hits 9th grade, the games begin. Oh, I forgot, not in all circumstances, but if your kid attends a H.S. with a weak lax program, forget about it, save your money. And don't tell me your kid was moved up to varsity in 8th or 9th grade, if you do, the first thing I'll ask you is what school district do you live in...If you kid is serious about playing, either you move to a top district or look into one of the top privates. If you're spending close to 10K on one tournament and not to knock, live in brentwood, deerpark, middle country, longwood, william floyd, Patmed, etc you have your priorities backwards. Maybe you have a outlier in the mix, but not often. Look into going private. Finally, remember, the kids who are so called studs now, may not carry the same status when they hit H.S.


This is rubbish. Plenty of kids from non-traditional powerhouse schools go on to play lacrosse in college. You are talking about uprooting your family to a new district, leaving friends, and starting a new school... just for lax??? I think you are the one with his priorities twisted.


I think you missed the overall point the post was explaining. You must be from one the districts listed and your kid is playing varsity in 9th grade.
In a month this will all be moot. 6 teams will be drinking the KoolAide and the other 11 will be heading home.
Who Cares ..... I will be on the beach when you are spending $8k to watch 13 year olds play lacrosse . This will not have an impact on your sons lax future at all ... Try asking boys in college if they remember the scores of travel lacrosse ....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who Cares ..... I will be on the beach when you are spending $8k to watch 13 year olds play lacrosse . This will not have an impact on your sons lax future at all ... Try asking boys in college if they remember the scores of travel lacrosse ....


But then it won’t show up as a FB memory in the years to come. Honestly, to each his own. I think it’s a waste, but if my son was a starter on Express, I would probably feel differently. But if you are a North regional team and can’t compete, why consider going as the 4th, 5th or 6th seed.
Wow, sounds like a lot of haters who have kids that didn't make the team or playing for teams that lost in qualifiers or are preparing to lose in qualifiers.

Here are a few points to consider:
1. If you detest it so much and continue to state, "who cares", why are you reading and posting on the 2025 thread. Maybe your kid is a 2025 and not age eligible... didn't make the top team for qualifiers, I don't know, just some guesses.
2. I have a kid on a team that is going to try and qualify. I understand the $$ involved and also understand that from purely a lacrosse development standpoint it could be spent in potentially other beneficial ways... but I'm in the fortunate position where I don't care. My kid has been working hard, enjoys playing with his team and teammates and if they qualify I'm happy to support him in going to Denver. I understand the tournament is a "money grab" as are most youth sporting events. If they don't qualify, so be it. As someone else stated, the north qualifier should be a great, competitive lacrosse event.
3. Yes, players and the landscape will change over the next 4 years, but this again seems spoken by someone who is bitter and hopes their kid get's better with time. We all hope that. Genetics plays a role, and most of us like the fact that the WSYL is age appropriate vs. grade based... and then I like going back to grade based and if my kid is playing against older 2025's then great, better for his development.

I'm actually interested in hearing about the teams involved, who thinks there will be upsets, any dark-horses... we all know Express CoachC is the favorite, etc... Spare us with the continued "waste of money", "who cares they're 13", yadda, yadda...

Good luck to all the teams that will be at the North Qualifier. Looking forward to it!
I coach High School and the 2 juniors that played in the Wsyl still remember their scores. Both going division 1 but they still care
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, sounds like a lot of haters who have kids that didn't make the team or playing for teams that lost in qualifiers or are preparing to lose in qualifiers.

Here are a few points to consider:
1. If you detest it so much and continue to state, "who cares", why are you reading and posting on the 2025 thread. Maybe your kid is a 2025 and not age eligible... didn't make the top team for qualifiers, I don't know, just some guesses.
2. I have a kid on a team that is going to try and qualify. I understand the $$ involved and also understand that from purely a lacrosse development standpoint it could be spent in potentially other beneficial ways... but I'm in the fortunate position where I don't care. My kid has been working hard, enjoys playing with his team and teammates and if they qualify I'm happy to support him in going to Denver. I understand the tournament is a "money grab" as are most youth sporting events. If they don't qualify, so be it. As someone else stated, the north qualifier should be a great, competitive lacrosse event.
3. Yes, players and the landscape will change over the next 4 years, but this again seems spoken by someone who is bitter and hopes their kid get's better with time. We all hope that. Genetics plays a role, and most of us like the fact that the WSYL is age appropriate vs. grade based... and then I like going back to grade based and if my kid is playing against older 2025's then great, better for his development.

I'm actually interested in hearing about the teams involved, who thinks there will be upsets, any dark-horses... we all know Express CoachC is the favorite, etc... Spare us with the continued "waste of money", "who cares they're 13", yadda, yadda...

Good luck to all the teams that will be at the North Qualifier. Looking forward to it!


I understand your point of view, but it's still 13 year old kids playing a game. Do I like watching my son play? Yes, but let me tell you, during past tournaments, watching and listening to some parents when the team makes it to the final game is embarrassing. Way before that point I'm ready to go home or back to the hotel or both. My oldest son's team made it to Denver 2 years ago, if it happens this year with my second guy, I'm not looking forward it. In a forest landscape picture, this entire process (WSYL) may represent a lone decaying scrape of moss on a distant stone. Is WSYL all Bu*&%^(t, to an extent. The organizations are the ones truly benefiting from all this.
Moving on.. great tourney in Maryland this weekend.. Express is playing FCA, BLC and 91MD.
Moving on.. great tourney in Maryland this weekend.. Express is playing FCA, BLC and 91MD.
Hey listen, everyone has their own opinion of what "great" is and what you want for yourself and your kid. But the majority of people could care a less about WSYL. At the end of day its hype that means nothing in July, nothing next July and nothing in 5 years from now. If you go, God Bless and enjoy. And if you dont go.... considerate yourself fortunate
This all sounds like the B Division here.
This is the most competitive U 13 YOUTH LACROSSE in all the land. You can't find more competitive ON AGE youth lacrosse in the world.
If you are on this board then I would assume you have a clue about what all this means.

Who is the best right now... Not in High school and not in college... RIGHT NOW.

Go talk to two of the top recruits this year who both have won the world series. They can tell you what it meant to them.
How can you be excited fo play and qualify when there are teams like rush that have a player on their team they pulled from their 2024 team that also plays on 2023 true blue and is also on his schools varsity team. Does that sound competitive or CRAZY?????????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can you be excited fo play and qualify when there are teams like rush that have a player on their team they pulled from their 2024 team that also plays on 2023 true blue and is also on his schools varsity team. Does that sound competitive or CRAZY?????????


To EACH his own.

If he's ON AGE then bring it. ZERO issues.

All youth lax teams have the rest of the year to deal with OVER AGE KIDS regardless of grade.


WSYL is the only time you will have a legit ON AGE competition. Enjoy it and then its over.
The last Post-er needs to get a life.... re-read that written jargon aloud and when you realize how you have embarassed yourself hopefully you will wake up. If not, and you still believe U-13 Lax is the mecca of life, then Im sure your kids dont respect you and your wife is probably eating dinner with the guy that thinks the complete opposite of you. Safe Travels to Denver you fool.....
How does someone play on 2 club teams. How is that even possible. Practices, tournaments, money. Then of course school lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can you be excited fo play and qualify when there are teams like rush that have a player on their team they pulled from their 2024 team that also plays on 2023 true blue and is also on his schools varsity team. Does that sound competitive or CRAZY?????????


To EACH his own.

If he's ON AGE then bring it. ZERO issues.

All youth lax teams have the rest of the year to deal with OVER AGE KIDS regardless of grade.


WSYL is the only time you will have a legit ON AGE competition. Enjoy it and then its over.


I’m sure the kid wants to do all that and not be a 13 year old kid. You should hear how notIntelligent you sound thinking this all mean something!!!!
Bro, the guy above just schooled you. Haaaaaaaa said your wife and kids think your a lost. OMG I sort of agree with the guy's point to be honest. 13 yr old lacrosses aint dat important
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How does someone play on 2 club teams. How is that even possible. Practices, tournaments, money. Then of course school lacrosse.


Its not hard as long as one team has priority so everyone knows what to expect when conflicts arise. Mine does it and still has time for school work, football and basketball in season.
I guess it’s doable. Club lacrosse, school lacrosse, face off training is enough lacrosse in my opinion. I wouldn’t even think of adding another club team into the mix. Not to mention, not fair to that 2nd club team missing lots of practices because the other team has priority. To each their own.
Does your kid really enjoy a Laxlife at age 13 it or does he think you enjoy so he stinks it up....hmmmmm????????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess it’s doable. Club lacrosse, school lacrosse, face off training is enough lacrosse in my opinion. I wouldn’t even think of adding another club team into the mix. Not to mention, not fair to that 2nd club team missing lots of practices because the other team has priority. To each their own.


It fills a selfish void for the parents I’m guessing. You can never make both teams practices. Teach your kids about loyalty and dedication instead of being an attention [ChillLaxin]. It’s a much more valuable lesson to teach your child
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I guess it’s doable. Club lacrosse, school lacrosse, face off training is enough lacrosse in my opinion. I wouldn’t even think of adding another club team into the mix. Not to mention, not fair to that 2nd club team missing lots of practices because the other team has priority. To each their own.
Dever may be canceled do to CoRONA... THANKS to the MEDIA> WIDE SPREAD PANIC..
Or just let them be a kid. Organized sports is good for them but when you force-feed and overload them..... The guy above: His kid wont be playing lax by 10th grade if indeed the kid is really playing 2 travel teams, FOGO training, etc But at least he will have the $7500 memory of WSYL...which his kid will forget as soon as he gets off the plane. Lax on Brother!
Is it a stretch to imagine the qualifier cancelled because of the corona virus panic?
I don’t know about cancelled. But I’ll say this. I spend about 8 to 10 grand a year on this sport for my youngest son. Between team, hotels, training, and clinics. Going to Denver will make this year 14 to 15 grand. Now with this Corona thing, which seems to be legit, I don’t want to take a plane with my family across the country. Plus like millions of other people, Im losing boat loads of money with this market crash, the last thing I want to do is drop another wad of cash on a lax tournament.
Buy energy stocks. They're really cheap right now. Then remember, you heard it hear first on BOTC.
When do they shut the 2020 Lacrosse season Down
soon...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can you be excited fo play and qualify when there are teams like rush that have a player on their team they pulled from their 2024 team that also plays on 2023 true blue and is also on his schools varsity team. Does that sound competitive or CRAZY?????????


To EACH his own.

If he's ON AGE then bring it. ZERO issues.

All youth lax teams have the rest of the year to deal with OVER AGE KIDS regardless of grade.


WSYL is the only time you will have a legit ON AGE competition. Enjoy it and then its over.


I’m sure the kid wants to do all that and not be a 13 year old kid. You should hear how notIntelligent you sound thinking this all mean something!!!!



If they cancel the wsyl the above dads who force their kids to be on several different laxteams might snap.🤣🤣
They should Cxl it. Not because of Corona but because it is a scam that preys on fools like the ones that have posted on this board. Maybe all the upset parents can pool their $7500 each and make a donation to the people/organizations that will need it most due to current events. Oh wait...you wouldnt get a fiddle stick by doing that....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
soon...



Already happening. Little bits at a time.

Considering there is no evidence that kids are getting it, what's the logic of cancelling everything. PANIC!!!!!

Why cant the adults just keep their distance and let the kids play? Now all of us will be able to enjoy our kids bouncing off the walls waiting for sporting event that might not come.
Simple. They get to keep your money and not do any work for it. Whenever there is a scare, there are people who profit from it. Lax clubs are the best fear mongers in the world. "If you don't xyz your kid won't get recruited and play in college for a scholarship worth 10 cents on every dollar that you gave us."
Just heard Shamrock Shootout at Farmingdale college is cancelled. Figured it would be.
I hope parents who already bought their airfare can get refunds.
I hear clubs are still practicing? with is wrong with these stunads? GET A LIFE. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU
Playing club will help accelerate spreading of the virus from one community to another.
Not a good idea. Stay safe.
What teams are still practicing ?
What teams have stopped practicing due to coronavirus?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Real Smart.
I dont get it...what is there to gain from 12/13 year old lacrosse practice? Have these fools seen whats going on or are they just that ignorant and selfish? Thats why this virus keeps spreading. And what about the dopey parents still bringing their kids there? Nicely done all of you lax for lifers... Pathetic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I dont get it...what is there to gain from 12/13 year old lacrosse practice? Have these fools seen whats going on or are they just that ignorant and selfish? Thats why this virus keeps spreading. And what about the dopey parents still bringing their kids there? Nicely done all of you lax for lifers... Pathetic


Turtle Dome will remain open for business.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Real Smart.


Clinics available the entire week at the Turtle Dome when the kids are off.
Do those clinics come with a test and a hospital bed?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Real Smart.


Clinics available the entire week at the Turtle Dome when the kids are off.


Great idea, send kids to clinics and invite grandma over for dinner. 50/50 if they have summer. WSYL will not happen this year, not that anyone cares.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do those clinics come with a test and a hospital bed?


Something for the boys to do. Stay ay sharp when school is closed. Come, we're open. If personalized field time needed, call, will accommodate.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do those clinics come with a test and a hospital bed?


Something for the boys to do. Stay ay sharp when school is closed. Come, we're open. If personalized field time needed, call, will accommodate.


Turtles vs COVID19~!, Who will will the battle in the Dome.
Athlete Zone, are they up and running. Looking to buy 18 sessions. It always feels hot and muggy, with the distinct odor of lacrosse gloves after a summer tournament. Just don't sit in the chairs.
The 2020 WSYL is officially postponed. Probably the best thing to happen to youth lacrosse.
The qualifiers are suspended. Not the WSYL. Time will tell what happens.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Real Smart.


Clinics available the entire week at the Turtle Dome when the kids are off.


Great idea, send kids to clinics and invite grandma over for dinner. 50/50 if they have summer. WSYL will not happen this year, not that anyone cares.


I bet you Express is still practicing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What teams are still practicing ?


Turtles!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing stops Unlimited
Real Smart.


Clinics available the entire week at the Turtle Dome when the kids are off.


Great idea, send kids to clinics and invite grandma over for dinner. 50/50 if they have summer. WSYL will not happen this year, not that anyone cares.


I bet you Express is still practicing?
not aloud top practice
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The qualifiers are suspended. Not the WSYL. Time will tell what happens.


Now that the qualifiers are postponed (great news), I just don't see the WSYL happening this year. Most programs are already have their summer tournaments scheduled.
My son is friends with a kid on a local travel team (not express) and apparently they are still practicing 2x a week. Can that be true? How is that possible?
Express is postponed til at least end of month
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The qualifiers are suspended. Not the WSYL. Time will tell what happens.


Now that the qualifiers are postponed (great news), I just don't see the WSYL happening this year. Most programs are already have their summer tournaments scheduled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The qualifiers are suspended. Not the WSYL. Time will tell what happens.


Now that the qualifiers are postponed (great news), I just don't see the WSYL happening this year. Most programs are already have their summer tournaments scheduled.


The rush daddy with his kid on 6 diff teams must be losing his mind haha
Whos still practicing?
C'mon ya'll....fess up.......u know who you are! OWN IT!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Clinics available the entire week at the Turtle Dome when the kids are off.


Great idea, send kids to clinics and invite grandma over for dinner. 50/50 if they have summer. WSYL will not happen this year, not that anyone cares.


I bet you Express is still practicing?
not aloud top practice

What do you mean not allowed?
You mean the Express organisation has decided right?
Force practiced on Sunday, I believe.
If tournments are cancelled will clubs give refunds thats the question ??
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.
I am pretty sure Empire isnt practicing. So thats part of Dynamic. So I assume all clubs , like 91, affiliated with Dynamic arent practicing.
Have to do the right thing and give something back. They want there money when you owe . If they don't give nothing back it will really be bad business by them .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.
To anyone on here who is actually thinking the WSYL is going to take place this year, I have one question for you: really? Are you that dense? Every single professional and collegiate sporting event has either been outright canceled or postponed for two months (at this point) despite the hundreds of millions of dollars in losses that will accrue, but you expect an amateur event that caters to about 350 13 year olds to go on? This is unprecedented. People are on here asking "who's practicing?" while entire school districts have been shut down,businesses - actual money making multi-national endeavors - are forcing their employees to stay home, and restaurants, bars and theaters have gone dark. Really? Who's practicing? I detest to be the bearer of bad news to all the parents who have spent the past three years jockeying and positioning their son to be on the "right" team with the "right" kids for this moment, but..... it ain't happening. The sooner you reconcile yourself to this fact the better. You have a better chance of getting pregnant again and shooting for 2033. Personally, I'm worried about fall 2020 being impacted. Anyone who is holding out hope that somehow, someway, the organizers of the WSYL are going to be able to squeeze qualifiers into some weekend in June when nothing else is going on (good luck with that!) on the heels of a global pandemic, and still provide enough time for travel arrangements for a tournament in July (despite the fact that airlines have shut down 50% of their capacity), without any of this being impacted by a phenomenon that has caused nations to close their borders and cities to impose curfews, is just out of his mind. Youth Lacrosse cannot spill into September, as the calendar flips on the kids' age. There just isn't enough time. Your kid's world series hopes ended the minute some donkey ate a live bat in central China in November. Sorry to say, it's over.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.


Better watch out hes going to talk to back of the cage and get your IP address.
Now when the dust finally does settle and it will, the focus will be on kids preparing for high school lacrosse. Kids getting better, improving their game. Some kids in 8th grade will play middle school, some JV, some varsity. The which team is better conversations will now start to fade away.
Hey bozo, the board is about ubs and there secret "get togethers"Ez in middle of a major pandemic. Not WSYL.go back to sleep.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey bozo, the board is about ubs and there secret "get togethers"Ez in middle of a major pandemic. Not WSYL.go back to sleep.

Again, but this time please speak Americanese
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To anyone on here who is actually thinking the WSYL is going to take place this year, I have one question for you: really? Are you that dense? Every single professional and collegiate sporting event has either been outright canceled or postponed for two months (at this point) despite the hundreds of millions of dollars in losses that will accrue, but you expect an amateur event that caters to about 350 13 year olds to go on? This is unprecedented. People are on here asking "who's practicing?" while entire school districts have been shut down,businesses - actual money making multi-national endeavors - are forcing their employees to stay home, and restaurants, bars and theaters have gone dark. Really? Who's practicing? I detest to be the bearer of bad news to all the parents who have spent the past three years jockeying and positioning their son to be on the "right" team with the "right" kids for this moment, but..... it ain't happening. The sooner you reconcile yourself to this fact the better. You have a better chance of getting pregnant again and shooting for 2033. Personally, I'm worried about fall 2020 being impacted. Anyone who is holding out hope that somehow, someway, the organizers of the WSYL are going to be able to squeeze qualifiers into some weekend in June when nothing else is going on (good luck with that!) on the heels of a global pandemic, and still provide enough time for travel arrangements for a tournament in July (despite the fact that airlines have shut down 50% of their capacity), without any of this being impacted by a phenomenon that has caused nations to close their borders and cities to impose curfews, is just out of his mind. Youth Lacrosse cannot spill into September, as the calendar flips on the kids' age. There just isn't enough time. Your kid's world series hopes ended the minute some donkey ate a live bat in central China in November. Sorry to say, it's over.


Correct
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.


Better watch out hes going to talk to back of the cage and get your IP address.


Are you referring to this;

Website forums and Back of the cage. I have not been on these sites since November of 2011 and I've never slept better. We expect that no Turtles parents engage in any commentary on any online forums. It is toxic waste of the most epic proportion and the idea that people think it's appropriate to write terrible things about young boys is pathetic. Please do not be one of these people who need to get a life. No teams or players are getting scholarships at this age and these forums that allow anonymous commenting are terrible for the sport. DON'T DO IT.

PS. I know the guys who run BOTC and they do give me IP addresses.
thanks,
Joe
Secret practices, secret get together. Really dude. You think a group of 13 year old boys are able to keep secrets. If kids on the same team, go outside and throw the ball around, shoot on a cage, good for them. Yesterday late afternoon, I saw about 200 kids on our high school field, playing soccer, playing lacrosse, playing football, riding bikes. Adults walking and running on the track. Is this wrong to do? I say no. Being inside, in crowded places I wouldn’t be ok with. The season is over, both school and club. No team is getting an edge on anyone, because there are no tournaments, no season, no WSYL. Nothing. It’s simply kids playing together and having fun and hopefully improving. For all those people who had their kids, bounce from team to team to team over the past 5 years to go Denver, it was all for nothing. Not to mention looking like fools along the way.
Like lots of businesses worldwide, some club lacrosse teams will be closing up shop, if not all of them. This catastrophe has crushed people and will continue to do so for months, maybe longer. Let’s face it, jobs will be lost, retirement accounts depleted, many people will struggle to pay mortgages. How many people in 4 months will be lining up at tryouts, how many people will have an extra several thousand bucks for club lacrosse. How many people will want to go stay overnight at hotels and spend 700 bucks on lacrosse weekends. The answer to all of the above is not many. Very sad, but very true.
If the WSYL is cancelled, Express dodged an orange bullet. Consider yourselves put on notice for 2021.
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless
At this point, it's safe to assume the entire spring tournament season is not going to happen. We should be hearing soon that the PAL and school sports seasons are being canceled. Let's hope things return to normal by the fall.
At this point blame the parents not the programs. Parents do not have to bring their kids.... they are the real fools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At this point blame the parents not the programs. Parents do not have to bring their kids.... they are the real fools.

100% agree.
I think spring is done. The summer season will start mid June and I suspect some tourney get moved to late July and August. Just need the clubs move back tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think spring is done. The summer season will start mid June and I suspect some tourney get moved to late July and August. Just need the clubs move back tryouts.

After they do the right thing and refund the customer and don’t say we will take care of you next year . refund the lost season and if they don't wake up to these clubs acts .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


He runs a business that has produces some of the best FO players in the world. He packs them in like sardines because his players/students get better. Period!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


Money grab he has had a clinic everyday this week at breezy park in Huntington. $40 . Is he paying Breezy park anything ? Is it a town park ? These guys dont let up 👎👎
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


Money grab he has had a clinic everyday this week at breezy park in Huntington. $40 . Is he paying Breezy park anything ? Is it a town park ? These guys dont let up 👎👎
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


6ft social distancing FOGO training? LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


6ft social distancing FOGO training? LOL


We are up and running;
https://turtleslax.com/collections/turtledome-training
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


He runs a business that has produces some of the best FO players in the world. He packs them in like sardines because his players/students get better. Period!


Stop just stop . Dont wanna hear the best fo players in the world ? Really who cares . Lacrosse not even relevant as a pro sport After college say bye to the sport . Some are you are really fooled out there. This guy having clinics putting people at risk he joking about it on Instagram. No school , college , ncaa tournments , pro sports , malls closed and this guy having $50 “cash” clinics blowing a whistle on his phone :
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


He runs a business that has produces some of the best FO players in the world. He packs them in like sardines because his players/students get better. Period!


Stop just stop . Dont wanna hear the best fo players in the world ? Really who cares . Lacrosse not even relevant as a pro sport After college say bye to the sport . Some are you are really fooled out there. This guy having clinics putting people at risk he joking about it on Instagram. No school , college , ncaa tournments , pro sports , malls closed and this guy having $50 “cash” clinics blowing a whistle on his phone :


Sounds like your son didn't live up to your expectations so you are blaming it on someone else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


He runs a business that has produces some of the best FO players in the world. He packs them in like sardines because his players/students get better. Period!


Stop just stop . Dont wanna hear the best fo players in the world ? Really who cares . Lacrosse not even relevant as a pro sport After college say bye to the sport . Some are you are really fooled out there. This guy having clinics putting people at risk he joking about it on Instagram. No school , college , ncaa tournments , pro sports , malls closed and this guy having $50 “cash” clinics blowing a whistle on his phone :


Sounds like your son didn't live up to your expectations so you are blaming it on someone else.

Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOGOlax practicing through the Coronavirus epidemic... speechless


I see that on Instagram he is money hungry . He packs out his money grab clinics inside like a pack of sardines and just grabs any open turf space @ $50 a hour then jokes about it with fresh air and get better . Stop being greedy


He runs a business that has produces some of the best FO players in the world. He packs them in like sardines because his players/students get better. Period!


Stop just stop . Dont wanna hear the best fo players in the world ? Really who cares . Lacrosse not even relevant as a pro sport After college say bye to the sport . Some are you are really fooled out there. This guy having clinics putting people at risk he joking about it on Instagram. No school , college , ncaa tournments , pro sports , malls closed and this guy having $50 “cash” clinics blowing a whistle on his phone :


Sounds like your son didn't live up to your expectations so you are blaming it on someone else.

Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.


The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class.
Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them. [/quote]

The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class. [/quote]

Likely? Dr. Fauci put a stake through the heart of that tournament. The kids aren't going back to school until June 1 at the earliest, and Colorado is probably two or three weeks behind New York in the outbreak wave. Anyone who is thinking that a lacrosse tournament will happen while the government is projecting up to 200,000 dead and 30% unemployment is out of their mind. The WSYL is not happening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.


The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class. [/quote]

Likely? Dr. Fauci put a stake through the heart of that tournament. The kids aren't going back to school until June 1 at the earliest, and Colorado is probably two or three weeks behind New York in the outbreak wave. Anyone who is thinking that a lacrosse tournament will happen while the government is projecting up to 200,000 dead and 30% unemployment is out of their mind. The WSYL is not happening.[/quote]

Thank God. I am thrilled... absolutely estatic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.


The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class.


Likely? Dr. Fauci put a stake through the heart of that tournament. The kids aren't going back to school until June 1 at the earliest, and Colorado is probably two or three weeks behind New York in the outbreak wave. Anyone who is thinking that a lacrosse tournament will happen while the government is projecting up to 200,000 dead and 30% unemployment is out of their mind. The WSYL is not happening.[/quote]

Thank God. I am thrilled... absolutely estatic.
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What is thrilling? We are midst of a global crisis? Kids miss out on something they have been working for? HS seniors are robbed of the best part of senior year? I can go on. SMH
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.


The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class.


Likely? Dr. Fauci put a stake through the heart of that tournament. The kids aren't going back to school until June 1 at the earliest, and Colorado is probably two or three weeks behind New York in the outbreak wave. Anyone who is thinking that a lacrosse tournament will happen while the government is projecting up to 200,000 dead and 30% unemployment is out of their mind. The WSYL is not happening.


Thank God. I am thrilled... absolutely estatic.
[/quote]

What is thrilling? We are midst of a global crisis? Kids miss out on something they have been working for? HS seniors are robbed of the best part of senior year? I can go on. SMH
[/quote]

I think the writer was referring to the WSYL. You’re reading too deeply. Take a breath, everything will play out eventually.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Continue to be fooled. WSYL is over, 2025's will fall to the bottom of the blog like the rest of them.


The WSYL likely being canceled would be the best thing to happen to the 2025 class.


Likely? Dr. Fauci put a stake through the heart of that tournament. The kids aren't going back to school until June 1 at the earliest, and Colorado is probably two or three weeks behind New York in the outbreak wave. Anyone who is thinking that a lacrosse tournament will happen while the government is projecting up to 200,000 dead and 30% unemployment is out of their mind. The WSYL is not happening.


Thank God. I am thrilled... absolutely estatic.
[/quote]

What is thrilling? We are midst of a global crisis? Kids miss out on something they have been working for? HS seniors are robbed of the best part of senior year? I can go on. SMH
[/quote]
Easy mama, control your emotions, pull yourself together. Youth lacrosse doesn't matter. I would love to be a fly on the wall in many house holds, perfect families? I think not!
just a heads up many of you are thinking your son will be going to a high Div 1 program just be happy your son loves the game and it will all fall into place . go look at the high div 1 programs and really look at the talent it is very difficult to get to that level . only a small amount of kids make it to the UNC , UVA Dukes of the world
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just a heads up many of you are thinking your son will be going to a high Div 1 program just be happy your son loves the game and it will all fall into place . go look at the high div 1 programs and really look at the talent it is very difficult to get to that level . only a small amount of kids make it to the UNC , UVA Dukes of the world


And majority of high schools they are from not NY . Mostly prep schools , boarding schools , academy’s. Ranging from 40k to 60k a year since 9th grade .
Really looking forward to the qualifier this weekend. It is going to be a great tournament. I've been waiting for this for 5 years!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really looking forward to the qualifier this weekend. It is going to be a great tournament. I've been waiting for this for 5 years!



I guess you didn’t get the invite. You were probably so close.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really looking forward to the qualifier this weekend. It is going to be a great tournament. I've been waiting for this for 5 years!



I guess you didn’t get the invite. You were probably so close.


Who got invited from Long Island? Can't wait to hear this....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really looking forward to the qualifier this weekend. It is going to be a great tournament. I've been waiting for this for 5 years!



I guess you didn’t get the invite. You were probably so close.


Who got invited from Long Island? Can't wait to hear this....


I honestly hope my sons team didn’t get an invite, simply don’t have the resources this year. Not sure many people would!
Invite? Really. People are getting sick and dying left and right. People are losing their jobs left and right. Fly to Colorado. Spend 6k. 12 weeks away. No thanks. Those invites are worthless pieces of paper that most people don’t want.
Those invites are geared toward the clubs that believe 7th grade lax matters..... Even if my sons club got "invited" (asked to cut a check) we'd respectfully decline. There are more important issues to tend to and flying in the direction of where this virus is heading isnt one of them. Besides, there is no WSYL this year..face it...move on....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those invites are geared toward the clubs that believe 7th grade lax matters..... Even if my sons club got "invited" (asked to cut a check) we'd respectfully decline. There are more important issues to tend to and flying in the direction of where this virus is heading isnt one of them. Besides, there is no WSYL this year..face it...move on....


Asking for 350 per head. With even 20 per team that’s 7 k up front for a phantom event. Bank account by Jake!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Those invites are geared toward the clubs that believe 7th grade lax matters..... Even if my sons club got "invited" (asked to cut a check) we'd respectfully decline. There are more important issues to tend to and flying in the direction of where this virus is heading isnt one of them. Besides, there is no WSYL this year..face it...move on....


Asking for 350 per head. With even 20 per team that’s 7 k up front for a phantom event. Bank account by Jake!


I'll tell you what, give them $350 now, consider it a donation. If the event cancelled, you will not receive a full refund. Think hard about it.
Instead of writing a check ask your club to write the deposit check and if this really gets off the ground then the player will reimburse but if you write a deposit check and it gets cancelled you are out the money not the club ....Lets See how many clubs put a deposit down
In today's world , with whats going on, why would any team even "accept" an invite? Whats even more amazing is that the teams that did not get "the call" are vowing to fight to the death for that elusive invite. Here is a novel idea ignorant club teams: Why dont you poll your teams/parents to see if they would even want to go at this point before you go before the WSYL gods and grovel and beg for an undeserved charity entry.... seriously? If you want corona just keep going to your secret practices and save your $7000 WAKE UP LAX LIFERS!
Why would anyone want to travel outside of the tri-state area when all the best teams are right here ? We have all the teams needed to have very competitive tournaments close by. LI, Upstate, Jersey, CT, Mass. Let Express be the only stunads to get on a plane this summer!
How desperate are these parents for validation that they would even consider exposing themselves and their sons to a deadly disease just to participate? Folks, the WSYL is not happening. At this point, I'm hoping the reason is because common sense prevailed, and not because the nation is still shut down or because some of the kids on the teams can't make it because they're burying their fathers or mothers.
Because:
A: They are crazy
B. Starved for recognition
C. Lead dull lives
D. Have nothing better to do with their $
E. They live vicariously through their kids
Door_Open_And. All of the above
12 weeks is a long time, but is it long enough to get on a plane and to Colorado. The North auto qualifiers should just have a playday in July, in nice Ocean area and enjoy it. One of those 6 teams is winning anyway.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because:
A: They are crazy
B. Starved for recognition
C. Lead dull lives
D. Have nothing better to do with their $
E. They live vicariously through their kids
Door_Open_And. All of the above


Come on folks, I understand some are caught up in the hype of this WSLY thing, but do yourself a favor, take a step back from all the hype and look/study whats going on out side youth lacrosse. If any coach is hedging on traveling to Denver in July using your hard earned money, doesn't have your kid in his best interest, let alone you as parents. I'm not one to say WSYL is a waste of time and money, you do whats best for your family. But in this circumstance, it's not a well thought idea.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because:
A: They are crazy
B. Starved for recognition
C. Lead dull lives
D. Have nothing better to do with their $
E. They live vicariously through their kids
Door_Open_And. All of the above


Come on folks, I understand some are caught up in the hype of this WSLY thing, but do yourself a favor, take a step back from all the hype and look/study whats going on out side youth lacrosse. If any coach is hedging on traveling to Denver in July using your hard earned money, doesn't have your kid in his best interest, let alone you as parents. I'm not one to say WSYL is a waste of time and money, you do whats best for your family. But in this circumstance, it's not a well thought idea.


Remember the body has control of the tail. If parents say no, then the organizations and coaches have no control. It's not the other way around
People are dying everywhere. , People are sick, Massive unemployment , Stock market decimated, colleges shut down, pro sports shut down. Schools, fields , etc etc etc. what the heck are people thinking? 20 teams are going to fly into Denver with no guarantee of not catching the virus. Wearing masks and rubber gloves on the sidelines . You people are crazy
In my opinion it is likely that things won’t be fully reopened until at least July. Look at all the stuff being cxld/rescheduled apart from sports. So optimistically mid June for local events, mid July for multi state events. I would like to see kids back on the fields practicing by June and see the season go to Labor Day. I would guess May tourneys and early June tourneys are not happening and shocked those directors aren’t thinking August. The tourney directors that haven’t started planning schedule changes will be the ones committing teams and be ahead the rest. For the WSYL why not move it to Florida in December. Just my thoughts for the day.
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?
CORONA BY JAKE! Pass but thanks the "invite"
Anyone thinking they are going to travel cross country in early July is delusional. Maybe small local tournaments start up but none of these teams are crossing state lines. This event is not happening this year. The way the "chose" the North Region would lead me to believe all the clubs who didn't get a real chance this year will not participate in qualifiers next year
Why not move the WSYL to Florida in December? Because it's not important, that's why. The Democrats just announced they're moving their convention from mid-July to late August, and the yodels on here think they're flying to Denver on July 1 for a youth event. News flash, people: the government just added 50% to our debt in 2 weeks, and is looking to double that figure now, and it still might not be enough. 30% unemployment (more than the Great Depression) and two hundred thousand dead (more than we've lost in all the wars we've ever fought, COMBINED). We're going to lose doctors, CEOs, and government officials. We may not have a country by this summer. My advice, take the lacrosse sticks out of your kids' hands and start teaching them to play ping pong, because your focus may shift from trying to get your son into a good college to positioning him to win favor with his local Chinese communist party official. The world we knew is over, folks. Come to grips with that fact, and start planning ahead.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?



As stated on the WSYL Instagram account - "Congratulations to all the teams advancing to the WSYL20 Championship Series" Don't you have to play another team to actually advance? Oh, and I know there are more important things going on in the world right now but I find this whole WSYL topic very comical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?


What happed to 91MD? They were a top 3 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?


What happed to 91MD? They were a top 3 team.


Maybe MM didn't want to commit to (and pay for) an early July tournament in Co.
These stunads actually put this out , the economy is getting crushed people are suffering and they want to continue to keep this WYSL thing going ... WAKE up and let it go shame on the clubs for even promoting that ..... Take a hard look in the mirror .....
WAIT!!! YOU MEAN A PLASTIC TROPHY AND A PICTURE OF MY KID WITH A DENVER BANNER IN THE BACKGROUND ISNT A LIFE FULFILLING EVENT? HECK, YOU MAY EVEN GET A DUST CLOTH, I MEAN T SHIRT..... To each their own I guess frown
NBA cancelled
NHL cancelled
NCAA spring sports cancelled
High school spring sports cancelled
Wimbledon cancelled
Daytona 500 cancelled
Olympics postponed for 1 year.
Who in there right mind is thinking this won’t be cancelled. It’s on to 8th grade lacrosse. They cant extend date to fall because they won’t turn football and soccer seasons upside down for WSYL. Yes this is sad for the boys to miss half a season of club lacrosse. Yes it’s sad they missed middle school lacrosse. Yes it’s sad they won’t have WSYL. With that being said, if this is your biggest problem, consider yourself lucky.
Top 5 things Long Island LAX parents can do with the money they save from not going to WSYL

1. Finally get that 60 inch lift kit for their dodge ram or Jeep.
2. Replenish the supply of team logo tank tops
3. Buy the new 2020 SaltLife shirts to wear over the tank tops in the morning. You can take it off for wifebeater tank top once it warms up around 11 am.
4. Get the largest Yeti cooler available to put that 36 pack of Budlight in. Gotta have a good buzz going for the games so you can really start yelling at the refs.
5. Don't forget the LED lights for number 1. Have to see the coach you chase down in the evening after the last game to find out why your little stud didn't play much when in your opinion he is the best player in the whole tournament.
I think they honestly did to collect deposits. Because until the regionals are over, it’s not “official”. Well now it is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?


What happed to 91MD? They were a top 3 team.


They weren’t going to beat 91 AAAAAA, so why bother going?
ESPN College Football analyst Kirk Herbstreit said in a radio interview he would be "shocked" if any NFL or college football was played this fall. There is zero percent chance of any spring or summer lacrosse, zero percent chance of the WSYL happening this year, and it's probably 50/50 that fall lacrosse is canceled as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ESPN College Football analyst Kirk Herbstreit said in a radio interview he would be "shocked" if any NFL or college football was played this fall. There is zero percent chance of any spring or summer lacrosse, zero percent chance of the WSYL happening this year, and it's probably 50/50 that fall lacrosse is canceled as well.


Is he an analyst or the NFL commissioner?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
According to the WSYL instagram site:

North:
Express
Express North
91
Sweetlax Upstate
Eclipse
Prime Time

East:
BBL Elite
3d Maryland
Zingos
Mad Dog NJ
Thunderbird?


What happed to 91MD? They were a top 3 team.


They weren’t going to beat 91 AAAAAA, so why bother going?


Way to go Turtles!
I don’t think the point was his job title. I think the point being made was, if fall football is a maybe. July lacrosse is not happening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.

Not true .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.

Not true .

Yes you did, see bellow;
Folks,
At this time we are committed to keeping the boys playing lacrosse even though schools have decided to suspend participation. We are fortunate enough to have the Turtledome as our private facility and feel it's a clean safe place to continue having the practices. As always practices are voluntary and if you feel it is in your best interest not to attend we fully understand.


see you soon,
Joe

Joe DeSimone
Lacrosse Unlimited Inc.
Always Custom Since 1990
Cell 516-319-8372


-“Adversity has built more champions than privilege”




Always Custom Since 1990
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If they were stand up clubs maybe they would issue Partial refunds.. But Remember...they had winter trainings and Fall tourneys too so they are entitled to some $ and should keep a portion. But If you think your getting full refund you may as well book your flight to Denver now too. Force practiced, Rebells LC practiced and a few others.


Clubs owners are trying to cover their tracks, because they know this issue will come up. I know my club, cancelled practice, but still is holding clinics $$$$ at the Turtle Dome. Now we will see who the true slime balls are.

Not true .

Yes you did, see bellow;
Folks,
At this time we are committed to keeping the boys playing lacrosse even though schools have decided to suspend participation. We are fortunate enough to have the Turtledome as our private facility and feel it's a clean safe place to continue having the practices. As always practices are voluntary and if you feel it is in your best interest not to attend we fully understand.


see you soon,
Joe

Joe DeSimone
Lacrosse Unlimited Inc.
Always Custom Since 1990
Cell 516-319-8372


-“Adversity has built more champions than privilege”




Always Custom Since 1990

Hey See You Soon Joe. Few told me you were a piece of work. Looking at you web site, the turtles held paid for clinics up to 3/20. Anyway, this isn't 2017.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why not move the WSYL to Florida in December? Because it's not important, that's why. The Democrats just announced they're moving their convention from mid-July to late August, and the yodels on here think they're flying to Denver on July 1 for a youth event. News flash, people: the government just added 50% to our debt in 2 weeks, and is looking to double that figure now, and it still might not be enough. 30% unemployment (more than the Great Depression) and two hundred thousand dead (more than we've lost in all the wars we've ever fought, COMBINED). We're going to lose doctors, CEOs, and government officials. We may not have a country by this summer. My advice, take the lacrosse sticks out of your kids' hands and start teaching them to play ping pong, because your focus may shift from trying to get your son into a good college to positioning him to win favor with his local Chinese communist party official. The world we knew is over, folks. Come to grips with that fact, and start planning ahead.


Sadly, what you're saying makes sense. Ping pong might not be such a bad idea the way things are looking.
Hilarious
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc
Fall tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic
I think Blatant will be the biggest abusers. The Brennan's are no good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.
Listen man, I want money back also. There must be 300 kids on club team. 4 grand a kid. Do teams have 1.2 million in an account? Half refund would be 600 grand. Do they have that laying around? I have no idea. I don’t own a lacrosse club. I made 180 grand last year. After taxes 130 grand. I couldn’t write a check for 10 grand right now. I live on my pay checks. My family lives on these checks. My point is at the end of the year I didn’t have 130 grand sitting in a bank account. Do these clubs have money to do this? It’s not Disney, It’s not McDonald’s, these club teams aren’t Fortune 500 companies. My friend just got in a fight with airline because he wanted money back, instead he got a credit voucher for next year. He wanted money to pay bills, not 2021 airline tickets. It’s crazy what’s going on right now. I know nothing about owning a club lacrosse team. I would be shocked if they had a million dollars sitting in a bank account. I hope I’m wrong. I’d love a nice check back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen man, I want money back also. There must be 300 kids on club team. 4 grand a kid. Do teams have 1.2 million in an account? Half refund would be 600 grand. Do they have that laying around? I have no idea. I don’t own a lacrosse club. I made 180 grand last year. After taxes 130 grand. I couldn’t write a check for 10 grand right now. I live on my pay checks. My family lives on these checks. My point is at the end of the year I didn’t have 130 grand sitting in a bank account. Do these clubs have money to do this? It’s not Disney, It’s not McDonald’s, these club teams aren’t Fortune 500 companies. My friend just got in a fight with airline because he wanted money back, instead he got a credit voucher for next year. He wanted money to pay bills, not 2021 airline tickets. It’s crazy what’s going on right now. I know nothing about owning a club lacrosse team. I would be shocked if they had a million dollars sitting in a bank account. I hope I’m wrong. I’d love a nice check back.

I get that but what if you want to switch clubs? A credit going forward won't work.
I wonder if any of these lacrosse clubs qualify for federal bailout money and, if they do, what they're going to do with it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.


I am the original poster. And don’t disagree about the year being maybe over. However, I feel like if (Big If) the governor deems things are safe and school starts classes in person May and spring sports plays a modified schedule, then I think all sports will quickly return to the fields as quickly as we were quarantined. And I think a lot of people wouldn’t think twice about going to a sporting event. If things were deemed safe. Not a debating your points just raising the scenario that is plausible.
I don’t think people understand the true nature of what we’re dealing with here. There’s a report today indicating that we would be lucky to have professional and collegiate sports by Thanksgiving. We may not have anything resembling our pre March 15 lives in any form until we develop a vaccine. History has happened. The world has changed. The life you knew before this is over. We are never going to be the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.


I am the original poster. And don’t disagree about the year being maybe over. However, I feel like if (Big If) the governor deems things are safe and school starts classes in person May and spring sports plays a modified schedule, then I think all sports will quickly return to the fields as quickly as we were quarantined. And I think a lot of people wouldn’t think twice about going to a sporting event. If things were deemed safe. Not a debating your points just raising the scenario that is plausible.


1st of all the governor wont be sending kids back to school anytime soon. This will roll back slowly. He is much more concerned about sending workers back. When that happens it will start at 25% going back, then 50%, etc... And he may require a certain percentage to continue to work from home for companies in order to keep some social distancing guidelines in effect. And it will be slow bringing it back, not day by day like it was shutting it down. They need to make sure as they bring it back, cases dont surge.

Schools reopening this year is a last priority. They know the kids can do lessons over the computer. Most major state exams have been cancelled. You wont see a movement back to normal life with large events which include sporting events until they have an approved vaccine or a verified successful medical treatment.

2nd noone in another state is going to want their teams to come to tournaments in New York. We were the worst hit state. And it will still be here even if life begins to restart, for months if not more.

3rd this disease will continue to roll from state to state. Its going to get worse in other areas. Its going to resurface in places even after it disappears.

This year is over. Wrap your head around it and accept it.
Hug your kids, and be glad you are together. Because some people cant do that. Thats the truth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.


I am the original poster. And don’t disagree about the year being maybe over. However, I feel like if (Big If) the governor deems things are safe and school starts classes in person May and spring sports plays a modified schedule, then I think all sports will quickly return to the fields as quickly as we were quarantined. And I think a lot of people wouldn’t think twice about going to a sporting event. If things were deemed safe. Not a debating your points just raising the scenario that is plausible.


1st of all the governor wont be sending kids back to school anytime soon. This will roll back slowly. He is much more concerned about sending workers back. When that happens it will start at 25% going back, then 50%, etc... And he may require a certain percentage to continue to work from home for companies in order to keep some social distancing guidelines in effect. And it will be slow bringing it back, not day by day like it was shutting it down. They need to make sure as they bring it back, cases dont surge.

Schools reopening this year is a last priority. They know the kids can do lessons over the computer. Most major state exams have been cancelled. You wont see a movement back to normal life with large events which include sporting events until they have an approved vaccine or a verified successful medical treatment.

2nd noone in another state is going to want their teams to come to tournaments in New York. We were the worst hit state. And it will still be here even if life begins to restart, for months if not more.

3rd this disease will continue to roll from state to state. Its going to get worse in other areas. Its going to resurface in places even after it disappears.

This year is over. Wrap your head around it and accept it.
Hug your kids, and be glad you are together. Because some people cant do that. Thats the truth.


Well said .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What do you think will be the first tourney on LI post quarantine.

1) Tri Star/Laxfest same weekend
2) FLG
3) Long Ireland
3) Bash at the Beach
4) Blatant Summer Showdown
5) Halloween Havoc


5 is most realistic


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.


I am the original poster. And don’t disagree about the year being maybe over. However, I feel like if (Big If) the governor deems things are safe and school starts classes in person May and spring sports plays a modified schedule, then I think all sports will quickly return to the fields as quickly as we were quarantined. And I think a lot of people wouldn’t think twice about going to a sporting event. If things were deemed safe. Not a debating your points just raising the scenario that is plausible.


1st of all the governor wont be sending kids back to school anytime soon. This will roll back slowly. He is much more concerned about sending workers back. When that happens it will start at 25% going back, then 50%, etc... And he may require a certain percentage to continue to work from home for companies in order to keep some social distancing guidelines in effect. And it will be slow bringing it back, not day by day like it was shutting it down. They need to make sure as they bring it back, cases dont surge.

Schools reopening this year is a last priority. They know the kids can do lessons over the computer. Most major state exams have been cancelled. You wont see a movement back to normal life with large events which include sporting events until they have an approved vaccine or a verified successful medical treatment.

2nd noone in another state is going to want their teams to come to tournaments in New York. We were the worst hit state. And it will still be here even if life begins to restart, for months if not more.

3rd this disease will continue to roll from state to state. Its going to get worse in other areas. Its going to resurface in places even after it disappears.

This year is over. Wrap your head around it and accept it.
Hug your kids, and be glad you are together. Because some people cant do that. Thats the truth.


The truth hurts. Families are force to be together. It's ironic, the only way families can enjoy each other is each parent constantly being on the move with the kids going in opposite directions. The way you see some of these parents abuse alcohol at tournaments, mom over there and dad over here, But they portray to be the perfect family. I can only imagine the misery in side some house holds since families have to be together now. I can live without travel lacrosse, and look forward to a peaceful summer, without being on the move every weekend this summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Agree. This year, it's over. Who would let their kid mix with out of state players in the coming months? Nobody has practiced, people are looking for refunds. To jam some tournaments up over the summer after nobody has been working is insane. Let it go and re-hammerhead for next year.

Finally someone thinks like me . Very true . Refund families back . Do the right thing . We dont need a spike in the virus because youth Lacrosse.


I am the original poster. And don’t disagree about the year being maybe over. However, I feel like if (Big If) the governor deems things are safe and school starts classes in person May and spring sports plays a modified schedule, then I think all sports will quickly return to the fields as quickly as we were quarantined. And I think a lot of people wouldn’t think twice about going to a sporting event. If things were deemed safe. Not a debating your points just raising the scenario that is plausible.


1st of all the governor wont be sending kids back to school anytime soon. This will roll back slowly. He is much more concerned about sending workers back. When that happens it will start at 25% going back, then 50%, etc... And he may require a certain percentage to continue to work from home for companies in order to keep some social distancing guidelines in effect. And it will be slow bringing it back, not day by day like it was shutting it down. They need to make sure as they bring it back, cases dont surge.

Schools reopening this year is a last priority. They know the kids can do lessons over the computer. Most major state exams have been cancelled. You wont see a movement back to normal life with large events which include sporting events until they have an approved vaccine or a verified successful medical treatment.

2nd noone in another state is going to want their teams to come to tournaments in New York. We were the worst hit state. And it will still be here even if life begins to restart, for months if not more.

3rd this disease will continue to roll from state to state. Its going to get worse in other areas. Its going to resurface in places even after it disappears.

This year is over. Wrap your head around it and accept it.
Hug your kids, and be glad you are together. Because some people cant do that. Thats the truth.


The truth hurts. Families are force to be together. It's ironic, the only way families can enjoy each other is each parent constantly being on the move with the kids going in opposite directions. The way you see some of these parents abuse alcohol at tournaments, mom over there and dad over here, But they portray to be the perfect family. I can only imagine the misery in side some house holds since families have to be together now. I can live without travel lacrosse, and look forward to a peaceful summer, without being on the move every weekend this summer. [/quote]

You’re good. Turtles weren’t missing anything anyway.
If you are looking for a peaceful summer with no lacrosse. How about just not have your son play travel. You don’t need a worldwide tragedy for you to have a peaceful summer. It shouldn’t make you happy that a lot of kids who enjoy lacrosse are missing out.
There will be a summer season. IMO.
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There will be a summer season. IMO.



My opinion is there is no shot. Even if things are improved no state wants a flood of Wuhan NYers flooding their state. Expect a cascading wave of tourneys moving to August or September.
US Lacrosse postponed all their events until at least end of June.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-...UAugH_op3HDgfCvPP7Giys07T5HNgnDUFzF4SlBA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Lacrosse postponed all their events until at least end of June.

https://www.uslacrosse.org/blog/us-...UAugH_op3HDgfCvPP7Giys07T5HNgnDUFzF4SlBA


Yes "Their Events" US Lacrosse isn't a governing overseer of travel lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?


Lololololololol!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?

hahahahahahahah
sucka'
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?

hahahahahahahah
sucka'



I wouldn't worry about the qualifier fee. Check into flights and rental cars for Denver. Great prices, hotel fee is stay to play but even they are reducing their rate. Call the hotel rather than using the link in the invite. Some flights are waving baggage fees but the flights are filling up fast, EVERYONE will be looking to get away once this stay at home is lifted.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?

hahahahahahahah
sucka'



I wouldn't worry about the qualifier fee. Check into flights and rental cars for Denver. Great prices, hotel fee is stay to play but even they are reducing their rate. Call the hotel rather than using the link in the invite. Some flights are waving baggage fees but the flights are filling up fast, EVERYONE will be looking to get away once this stay at home is lifted.


This guy is hilarious. Flights are cheap, huh? Just promise us you'll come back here on July 4 and post pictures of your family at Robert Moses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When should I expect to receive refund for World Series Qualifier?

hahahahahahahah
sucka'



I wouldn't worry about the qualifier fee. Check into flights and rental cars for Denver. Great prices, hotel fee is stay to play but even they are reducing their rate. Call the hotel rather than using the link in the invite. Some flights are waving baggage fees but the flights are filling up fast, EVERYONE will be looking to get away once this stay at home is lifted.

Ok kids they lifted the travel lets go !!! “Dad where are we going”? To little Johnny’s WSYL . Really ? Get a grip man . This is destroying some of you .
Refund will be sent on 2/30/2021
Thanks
Jake
Sadly the little league World Series was cxld. That tournament actually starts around now in each district, then to state, then to the region and finally to Williamsport. That’s not a good sign, even for this optimist.
If baseball cancelled it’s Virginia World Series in Aug. No way a contact sport is playing in Colorado this July. It’s 50/50 schools are open in Sept.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If baseball cancelled it’s Virginia World Series in Aug. No way a contact sport is playing in Colorado this July. It’s 50/50 schools are open in Sept.


They canceled, the club owners know they just haven't told the parents.
NY canceled school for the rest of the year. So....no school on June 26, but we're flying to Denver the next day for a lacrosse tournament? Where's the guy on here who said that hotels were "filling up fast"? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like him to consider buying....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NY canceled school for the rest of the year. So....no school on June 26, but we're flying to Denver the next day for a lacrosse tournament? Where's the guy on here who said that hotels were "filling up fast"? I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like him to consider buying....


Just remember, people on here posting information as if they know what they're talking about are nothing but armatures.
I just hope this finishes the World Series forever........
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just hope this finishes the World Series forever........


It was going to be the best WSYL event ever!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just hope this finishes the World Series forever........


It was going to be the best WSYL event ever!!!!!!



next year will be the best wsyl ever!
No 4 years from now will be best ever.
It's official - the 2020 World Series of Youth Lacrosse is canceled. I guess those flights that were "filling up fast" are going to be issuing a lot of vouchers.
It’s been official for 2 weeks now. Thanks.
Should be official forever in Denver .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be official forever in Denver .

Whats with the Haters? Do you detest all tournaments or just the one's that are age based?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be official forever in Denver .

Whats with the Haters? Do you detest all tournaments or just the one's that are age based?

Why travel so far ? All the winners been Li vs Li
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be official forever in Denver .


Couldn't agree more. The WSYL is the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse
Still feel like Scorch got robbed. The boys were ready. They worded so hard for so long. The days of Express are finished.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still feel like Scorch got robbed. The boys were ready. They worded so hard for so long. The days of Express are finished.

hahahaha clown
I remember, that's the Tourney were Legacy crumbled,haha!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I remember, that's the Tourney were Legacy crumbled,haha!

some of you people on this thread are pathetic.
Have any clubs made any definitive statements about this year yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have any clubs made any definitive statements about this year yet?


Only definitive statement at this point that can be made is "We definitively can't tell you when or if the season will happen"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have any clubs made any definitive statements about this year yet?


Only definitive statement at this point that can be made is "We definitively can't tell you when or if the season will happen"


Based on boy lacrosse is high-risk sport according to the ranking that came out..it's over until next spring.
Season is over Stick a fork in it and kiss your $ goodbye. My guess is clubs will reduce next seasons "tuition" for returning players but they wont be handing out checks like the Federal govt....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Season is over Stick a fork in it and kiss your $ goodbye. My guess is clubs will reduce next seasons "tuition" for returning players but they wont be handing out checks like the Federal govt....


They will when my attorney contacts them or small claims order them to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Season is over Stick a fork in it and kiss your $ goodbye. My guess is clubs will reduce next seasons "tuition" for returning players but they wont be handing out checks like the Federal govt....

We wont be returning and I will get some of my money back. If I have to go the small claims route, so be it.
Someone should get a lawyer willing to take these cases on and post his details here. That lawyer could make a lot of money as the go to guy handling all the claims against these clubs.
Pay $2500 in legal to recoop $1000.....brilliant!
Interesting rebels make the first move sending out travel email season update.
Hope everyone is doing well, and is safe. We are reaching out to give you guys an update on the upcoming season.

There is a lot of uncertainty with fields, tournaments, governement regulations, etc.

With all of this in mind, we have decided to extend the season until the end of Summer 2021. There will be no tryouts, or tryout fee as usual. There will only be a supplemental tryout to fill any available spots in the fall. The details of what we will be able to attend, practice, scrimmage, train this summer will effect the overall credit that each family will receive. This is a very fluid situation, and once we all have a better understanding of a return date, this will be finalized. Once we are able to see the total value that each family paid for, versus what they received we will make this decision. We will work to avoid any unneccesary costs going forward through the end of 2021, and will break any future payments up into 10 Monthly Installments with the understanding this virus has had an economic impact on many.

Tournaments are changing their dates on a daily basis, as regulations come in and change. Please currently ignore any scheduled changes, or information until there is a blanket update provided by us on tournament schedule.

We have the safety of our players and their families in mind as we make these decisions, and will phase our re-opening with appropriate measures. This will include actions such as practices, trainings, filmed scrimmages for recruiting ages, and mid-week round robin/tournament play until bigger events are allowed.

Specifically for the 2021 age group, we are working with tournament directors and there will be 2021 brackets this fall and possibly next summer for recruiting purposes if the summer season is shortened.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting rebels make the first move sending out travel email season update.
Hope everyone is doing well, and is safe. We are reaching out to give you guys an update on the upcoming season.

There is a lot of uncertainty with fields, tournaments, governement regulations, etc.

With all of this in mind, we have decided to extend the season until the end of Summer 2021. There will be no tryouts, or tryout fee as usual. There will only be a supplemental tryout to fill any available spots in the fall. The details of what we will be able to attend, practice, scrimmage, train this summer will effect the overall credit that each family will receive. This is a very fluid situation, and once we all have a better understanding of a return date, this will be finalized. Once we are able to see the total value that each family paid for, versus what they received we will make this decision. We will work to avoid any unneccesary costs going forward through the end of 2021, and will break any future payments up into 10 Monthly Installments with the understanding this virus has had an economic impact on many.

Tournaments are changing their dates on a daily basis, as regulations come in and change. Please currently ignore any scheduled changes, or information until there is a blanket update provided by us on tournament schedule.

We have the safety of our players and their families in mind as we make these decisions, and will phase our re-opening with appropriate measures. This will include actions such as practices, trainings, filmed scrimmages for recruiting ages, and mid-week round robin/tournament play until bigger events are allowed.

Specifically for the 2021 age group, we are working with tournament directors and there will be 2021 brackets this fall and possibly next summer for recruiting purposes if the summer season is shortened.


What if the player does not want to return for the 2021 season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pay $2500 in legal to recoop $1000.....brilliant!


You clearly don't know how small claims court works.
I once had this girlfriend who I thought would be true when we were separated for a bit. I was really blue when she didn’t write me or let me know what was going on with the relationship even though I had paid for every date in full.

We were due for a date on June 6 and she told me we would definitely figure something out and promised she would be in touch with me but I still haven’t heard from her.

I think she skipped town.

Which is too bad because the kid we both cared about is stuck with me and really upset because he thought she cared.

But she was only after the money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting rebels make the first move sending out travel email season update.
Hope everyone is doing well, and is safe. We are reaching out to give you guys an update on the upcoming season.

There is a lot of uncertainty with fields, tournaments, governement regulations, etc.

With all of this in mind, we have decided to extend the season until the end of Summer 2021. There will be no tryouts, or tryout fee as usual. There will only be a supplemental tryout to fill any available spots in the fall. The details of what we will be able to attend, practice, scrimmage, train this summer will effect the overall credit that each family will receive. This is a very fluid situation, and once we all have a better understanding of a return date, this will be finalized. Once we are able to see the total value that each family paid for, versus what they received we will make this decision. We will work to avoid any unneccesary costs going forward through the end of 2021, and will break any future payments up into 10 Monthly Installments with the understanding this virus has had an economic impact on many.

Tournaments are changing their dates on a daily basis, as regulations come in and change. Please currently ignore any scheduled changes, or information until there is a blanket update provided by us on tournament schedule.

We have the safety of our players and their families in mind as we make these decisions, and will phase our re-opening with appropriate measures. This will include actions such as practices, trainings, filmed scrimmages for recruiting ages, and mid-week round robin/tournament play until bigger events are allowed.

Specifically for the 2021 age group, we are working with tournament directors and there will be 2021 brackets this fall and possibly next summer for recruiting purposes if the summer season is shortened.


What if the player does not want to return for the 2021 season?




Everyone will get screwed, someone will practice with under 10 kid sessions and some won’t. Either way there keeping our money. Tourneys or not we won’t see a dollar from these programs!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting rebels make the first move sending out travel email season update.
Hope everyone is doing well, and is safe. We are reaching out to give you guys an update on the upcoming season.

There is a lot of uncertainty with fields, tournaments, governement regulations, etc.

With all of this in mind, we have decided to extend the season until the end of Summer 2021. There will be no tryouts, or tryout fee as usual. There will only be a supplemental tryout to fill any available spots in the fall. The details of what we will be able to attend, practice, scrimmage, train this summer will effect the overall credit that each family will receive. This is a very fluid situation, and once we all have a better understanding of a return date, this will be finalized. Once we are able to see the total value that each family paid for, versus what they received we will make this decision. We will work to avoid any unneccesary costs going forward through the end of 2021, and will break any future payments up into 10 Monthly Installments with the understanding this virus has had an economic impact on many.

Tournaments are changing their dates on a daily basis, as regulations come in and change. Please currently ignore any scheduled changes, or information until there is a blanket update provided by us on tournament schedule.

We have the safety of our players and their families in mind as we make these decisions, and will phase our re-opening with appropriate measures. This will include actions such as practices, trainings, filmed scrimmages for recruiting ages, and mid-week round robin/tournament play until bigger events are allowed.

Specifically for the 2021 age group, we are working with tournament directors and there will be 2021 brackets this fall and possibly next summer for recruiting purposes if the summer season is shortened.


What if the player does not want to return for the 2021 season?




Everyone will get screwed, someone will practice with under 10 kid sessions and some won’t. Either way there keeping our money. Tourneys or not we won’t see a dollar from these programs!!!

Then its the small claims route. I have no problem with that.
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL


You don’t need a “contract” to go to court. You simply paid for service that you did not receive.

If you were suppose to get 12 practices, 6 tourneys and a uniform, and you did not get it, you are entitled to compensation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo

Rebels have sent a few over the course of the quarantine.
Well, you go get your court order, and I’ll sue you for wrongful prosecution.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Well, you go get your court order, and I’ll sue you for wrongful prosecution.

hahaha. Great quote Venkman
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Someone should get a lawyer willing to take these cases on and post his details here. That lawyer could make a lot of money as the go to guy handling all the claims against these clubs.


Better Call Saul
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


Force has done a decent job keeping us updated. I think their hands are tied.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


I don't know where you heard 91 wasn't sending anything. They have weekly emails that go out with different workout options and created an Instagram page with videos from coaches with different drills for the boys to do. Have all your facts before you go posting things that aren't true.
Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.


Exactly. All these videos and Instagram posts are smoke and mirrors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


I don't know where you heard 91 wasn't sending anything. They have weekly emails that go out with different workout options and created an Instagram page with videos from coaches with different drills for the boys to do. Have all your facts before you go posting things that aren't true.

Are they going to use the videos, the instagram drills and workouts and say not getting refund to you because we supplied that ? Did they say that in the email ? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is another fact about those videos and Instagram pages as well. This will be in lieu of refunds and credits. Mark my words. Come the end of the summer, when people will be looking for some financial restitution from this club, their answer will be exactly what you just said. We had coaches send videos of drills, we sent Instagram packages. That will be the answer given. When people say they missed 4 months of club lacrosse, the club will say, no you didn’t.


Exactly. All these videos and Instagram posts are smoke and mirrors.


But the top secret practices are awesome.
E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?
These clubs are toast. They all were ripping off the consumer for way to long. Summer tuition includes 4 or 5 tournaments, professional coaching and 15 practices. All are not going to happen = full refund.
Pucker up club owners as you will be getting a taste what you have been doing to the parents for years.
The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.



Boo. Hoo.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What contract did you sign that you can use in court? LOL

I would say most teams have a sign in process where you pay the tuition. I have all those receipts. Most teams websites list what they provide during the season. Uniforms, fall/spring/summer tournaments, practices, etc. It doesnt take much to prove what you paid and what you received. This is small claims court where most times the 2 parties will come to an agreement. It might not have to come to that if both parties are fair. Got all that matlock?


Has anyone heard from their clubs weekly or monthly ? I’ve heard some are sending workouts and some aren’t sending anything like 91, true blue and igloo


I don't know where you heard 91 wasn't sending anything. They have weekly emails that go out with different workout options and created an Instagram page with videos from coaches with different drills for the boys to do. Have all your facts before you go posting things that aren't true.

Are they going to use the videos, the instagram drills and workouts and say not getting refund to you because we supplied that ? Did they say that in the email ? Just curious.


That's an excellent point, no they did not say that. Didn't think of that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.


Most clubs do not layout money this far in advance to organizers. Most clubs own a piece of the tourney organizations! This is twice as true for the large clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The problem isn't with the clubs, it's with the businesses running the tournaments (the blatant's of the world). It's a trickle-down effect - All the clubs laid out a lot of money for these tournaments and now they're not being offered refunds.

Also, everyone thinks these club teams are making a lot of money but in reality, they're not. Sure, the big dogs are (91, Express, Igloo, etc.) but most club teams aren't.



Boo. Hoo.


And there he is, Mr. Obnoxious. Get a life.
Stop already. It isn’t some complex, high tech thing to figure out. It’s a business. The goal of every business is to make money. That comes before anything else. Money, money, money. Your kid getting better in lacrosse is nice, but not nearly as important to the club as profits. Your son met nice new friends, that’s great, but to the club that means little as compared to profits. You lost your job, see if the club carries you for free next year, not happening. Maybe some 12 month payment plan will be applied, not free. If a club has 25 kids on a team paying 4000 bucks each. That’s 100 grand a team. 1 team per grade is 10 teams, that’s 1 millon bucks. Some clubs have 2 or 3 teams per grade, that’s 2 to 3 million bucks. Let’s use the 1 team per grade example. 1 million bucks coming in.

The money going out:
2 paid coaches per team. I’ll say 150 to 200 grand for the 10 teams.
Tournaments:let’s say 7 tournaments 1000 each, 10 teams 70 grand.
Uniforms: 100 per kid, 250 kids, 25 grand
Field permits/insurance: I’ll say 100 grand

In reality a club with 25 kids per team, 1 team per grade is making about 600 grand profit.
2 teams per grade 1.2 million profit.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with making profits. My business makes a nice profit too. That’s why people go to work, that’s why people start businesses, to make as much money as they can for their families. I just think that this particular year, with this horrific situation, a good portion of those profits need to be returned to the customers. This without question should be done. I’ve been in business a long time, I truly believe doing the right thing now, will actually reward those clubs with business later.
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E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.


My son told me one of his friends teams here in Nassau had a practice yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
E3 said tonight that one program is starting small group training, 9 players and 1 coach. Does anyone know what program is starting?


This can not happen until phase 2. And with seeing many areas update today not go into phase 2 after 14 days, it can be quite some time till you are ALLOWED to play and guarantee the players/parents/coaches safety.


My son told me one of his friends teams here in Nassau had a practice yesterday.
it can happen.. this infor is verified. Just hard to find fields.
Is 91 practicing so they can get to Denver? Pot shops are open.
Guarantee all these clubs resume soon as a half-hearted attempt to keep the rest of that "tuition" money that was paid. Ya know, they have to get ready for the season that is halfway over and is never resuming. Get those Reps in fellas! They are totally life changing for 13 yr old kids during a pandemic to which there is no cure or treatments to date! LAX ON!
Kids need to practice even if tournaments are a no go. Getting the kids active should be our priority right now (for kids mental state)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids need to practice even if tournaments are a no go. Getting the kids active should be our priority right now (for kids mental state)

Kids are resilient, adults are less. Many times, kids feed off the emotional (mental state) of their parents. There are plenty of other interest besides lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kids need to practice even if tournaments are a no go. Getting the kids active should be our priority right now (for kids mental state)

Kids are resilient, adults are less. Many times, kids feed off the emotional (mental state) of their parents. There are plenty of other interest besides lax.

That is 100% true
And a virus like covid 19 will feed on them and parents/coaches that rush it. Too many people putting their guard down too soon and for what? Practice? Let me know how it goes. Id rather let them keep my $ then put kids in a potentially harmful situation. Remember, club owners will do anything not to issue refunds.
US Club Lacrosse preseason rankings look fairly accurate eh? Will be another exciting season.
Is rioting and looting permissible under Phase I or do they have to wait until Phase II? There seems to be some confusion out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Lacrosse preseason rankings look fairly accurate eh? Will be another exciting season.


I don't know - I had the team ranked #37 at 43, and the team tanked at #43 at 29. And I can't believe DraftKings added 13 y/o lacrosse to the betting tables. Is that even legal?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
US Club Lacrosse preseason rankings look fairly accurate eh? Will be another exciting season.


I don't know - I had the team ranked #37 at 43, and the team tanked at #43 at 29. And I can't believe DraftKings added 13 y/o lacrosse to the betting tables. Is that even legal?


I mean, why come on here talking about 2025 lacrosse. The nerve of them. Someone should make a website with a forum to discuss the topic
Portnoy is announcing the tournaments this summer
Seriously, kids practicing in coaches yards, teams holding organized practices Dad coaches and no team pinnies allowed. You people have really lost your darn minds.

All for what? And the parents allow it.
Teams will do anything possible to not send out refunds. It’s not surprising at all.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams will do anything possible to not send out refunds. It’s not surprising at all.

Agreed. It's shameful.
BLAME THE PARENTS. THEY ALLOW IT!!! HATS OFF TO THE FEW PARENTS THAT SACKED UP AND STOOD THEIR GROUND. Their kids will be the better players then the kids practicing during a pandemic. Print THAT!! And those rankings are a joke. Anyone that takes those seriously probably thinks the kids will be playing tournaments this summer. It's still LI Exp and then everyone else. Rank that!

Yes indeed! People don't see it.
sounds like a rebels thing
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BLAME THE PARENTS. THEY ALLOW IT!!! HATS OFF TO THE FEW PARENTS THAT SACKED UP AND STOOD THEIR GROUND. Their kids will be the better players then the kids practicing during a pandemic. Print THAT!! And those rankings are a joke. Anyone that takes those seriously probably thinks the kids will be playing tournaments this summer. It's still LI Exp and then everyone else. Rank that!

Yes indeed! People don't see it.

FREEEEEEDOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Teams will do anything possible to not send out refunds. It’s not surprising at all.


Agreed! No organized sports allowed until July 6th. Thank you to the clubs and parents that refused to skirt the rules.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BLAME THE PARENTS. THEY ALLOW IT!!! HATS OFF TO THE FEW PARENTS THAT SACKED UP AND STOOD THEIR GROUND. Their kids will be the better players then the kids practicing during a pandemic. Print THAT!! And those rankings are a joke. Anyone that takes those seriously probably thinks the kids will be playing tournaments this summer. It's still LI Exp and then everyone else. Rank that!

Yes indeed! People don't see it.


Teams are practicing because they will be playing tournaments in 3 weeks. If you think that your child is at risk and would prefer he sit out the season, then that’s a personal decision and no one will fault you for it. But it’s your choice. If I choose the allow my son to practice and play in tournaments, then it’s my choice and Im prepared to deal with any repercussions. I’m confident that their will be none. I’m happy the season is going to happen. My son is happy. His teammates and friends are happy. Most teams, with the exception of 91 (and best I can tell it’s just their 2025 teams) started last week or earlier.
Just because tournaments are scheduled, its still a maybe at this point. Fall sports are also a maybe.
Pretty simple you either send your kid or don't, but don't judge others for their decision.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pretty simple you either send your kid or don't, but don't judge others for their decision.


Who wants to or is happy to play with these modified lax rules.........waste of time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pretty simple you either send your kid or don't, but don't judge others for their decision.


Who wants to or is happy to play with these modified lax rules.........waste of time.


My KID is happy to play. Really wants to. Isn't that what matters? Not a waste of time. Tough to find a kid who doesn't want to get back out there. Seems like YOU aren't happy about it. Thought this was about the kids? But I don't mind driving a few hours hanging out with other parents talking about 12 year old kids having a few drinks. What else is there to do?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just because tournaments are scheduled, its still a maybe at this point. Fall sports are also a maybe.


Okay, the parents at the tournament this weekend will certainly take note!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pretty simple you either send your kid or don't, but don't judge others for their decision.


Who wants to or is happy to play with these modified lax rules.........waste of time.


My KID is happy to play. Really wants to. Isn't that what matters? Not a waste of time. Tough to find a kid who doesn't want to get back out there. Seems like YOU aren't happy about it. Thought this was about the kids? But I don't mind driving a few hours hanging out with other parents talking about 12 year old kids having a few drinks. What else is there to do?


Exactly, my kid would go play a freaking non contact fiddle stick game in Nebraska to get back out playing lax with his friends.
That’s exactly what kids should be doing. Playing informally with friends. Trying to organize actual tournaments, when 25 percent of the team doesn’t show because of nervous parents. Then you have the modified rules factor. Then you can’t hang out and have fun laughing with your friends on sidelines. Hotels will be not happening. Can’t go have team dinners. It’s just he wrong environment. Playing fiddle sticks in Nebraska actually sounds more logical. It’s like watching a UFC fight, even the greatest fighters know at a certain point to tap out. 2020 summer lax may be at that point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just because tournaments are scheduled, its still a maybe at this point. Fall sports are also a maybe.


100% correct and everytime I hear fall sports I hope they go on but it ain't looking good.

BOWDOIN COLLEGE (NESCAC) school just cancelled ALL FALL SPORTS. Invariably other NESCAC schools will follow and its just a matter of time befre the inevitable happens.

The uncertainty surrounding the 2020 college football season is swirling, and one small school made big waves on Monday morning. Bowdoin College, an NCAA Division III school located in Brunswick, Maine, announced it will not participate in intercollegiate sports during the fall semester. The Polar Bears play in the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC).

The decision comes on the same day that the school released a detailed plan on how students will return to campus. Sophomores, juniors, and seniors will participate in remote learning classes during the fall semester, with a few exceptions. Freshmen, transfers, students who can't take classes remotely, senior honor students who can't properly participate with their work online, and residential life staff will be allowed on campus.

"This is one of the very disappointing outcomes of our plan," Bowdoin President Clayton Rose said in a statement. "Athletics is a central part of the Bowdoin experience for many of our students and for the College more generally. NESCAC has not yet determined what will happen with conference play or how coaches in this extraordinary semester may interact with athletes on fall, winter, and spring teams during the fall semester, but I am hopeful that there will be significant opportunities this fall for coaches to work with those athletes who are both on and off campus. Varsity athletes living on campus are likely to have in-person workout opportunities with coaches, but unfortunately, students living off campus will not be permitted to participate in on-campus workouts."

The school hopes for the "opportunity for the winter, spring, and possibly fall varsity athletes to participate and compete in some form after January 1."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just because tournaments are scheduled, its still a maybe at this point. Fall sports are also a maybe.


100% correct and everytime I hear fall sports I hope they go on but it ain't looking good.

BOWDOIN COLLEGE (NESCAC) school just cancelled ALL FALL SPORTS. Invariably other NESCAC schools will follow and its just a matter of time befre the inevitable happens.

The uncertainty surrounding the 2020 college football season is swirling, and one small school made big waves on Monday morning. Bowdoin College, an NCAA Division III school located in Brunswick, Maine, announced it will not participate in intercollegiate sports during the fall semester. The Polar Bears play in the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC).

The decision comes on the same day that the school released a detailed plan on how students will return to campus. Sophomores, juniors, and seniors will participate in remote learning classes during the fall semester, with a few exceptions. Freshmen, transfers, students who can't take classes remotely, senior honor students who can't properly participate with their work online, and residential life staff will be allowed on campus.

"This is one of the very disappointing outcomes of our plan," Bowdoin President Clayton Rose said in a statement. "Athletics is a central part of the Bowdoin experience for many of our students and for the College more generally. NESCAC has not yet determined what will happen with conference play or how coaches in this extraordinary semester may interact with athletes on fall, winter, and spring teams during the fall semester, but I am hopeful that there will be significant opportunities this fall for coaches to work with those athletes who are both on and off campus. Varsity athletes living on campus are likely to have in-person workout opportunities with coaches, but unfortunately, students living off campus will not be permitted to participate in on-campus workouts."

The school hopes for the "opportunity for the winter, spring, and possibly fall varsity athletes to participate and compete in some form after January 1."


Go to Tourneymachine app and sort to Lacrosse, Maryland, June. There is a tournament this weekend with multiple age brackets. Like it or not, it is happening and going to happen this summer.
Bodoin is a school full of wimps...
If you go to the actual website for the tournament populated by Tourneymachine, it says:
"Due to COVID-19, all Millon Events have been moved back to the weekend of August 8th and 9th, 2020. Our 2026 through 2028 age groups will run at Troy Park in Elkridge, MD and our 2023-2025 age groups will run at Blandair Regional Park in Columbia, MD. Millon Events will continue to update your program directors and coaches with updates. As we get closer to the event and have a better idea of the amount of teams participating in each event, we will update all of our tournament rules, game formats, and policies. Thank you for your patience, and we hope to see you in August.

Best,
Millon Events"
Hey meatheads, it isnt about the lousy lax that you overpaid for or the refunds that you are never getting. It is about the uncertainty of this Covid Environment and doing what is best for the kids. If throwing them on a field in the August heat to play "Non contact and adequate spacing" lacrosse is your cup of tea then God Bless! Enjoy the 8 hr round trip drive in 1 day for a glorified walk thru at out-of-state tournament. And if you are against it and feel Covid is going to explode again and you want to avoid possible issues then keep your kid home. Its that simple. Everyone has their opinion, right or wrong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bodoin is a school full of wimps...


Ahhh yes, more intelligent responses. If this is the response to NESCAC schools cancelling fall sports versus lets work together to keep the curve flat, we will be lucky to play sports next spring without a vaccine. Someone will say fake news, someone else will say lemming, another will say stink it up and if you want to play then play and if you don't then don't BUT but the reality is once schools start cancelling sports there won't be A CHOICE!! I don't understand why people don't get that. At this point it isn't a parental decision (yes maybe practice is) but tournaments are not. They will up to local health officials and local towns REGARDLESS OF WHAT TOURNEY MACHINE or clubs say. I am not saying there wont be any games or tourneys. Someone will buck the trend BUT it won't be the majority and tournaments that are being pushed off will eventually be cancelled ESPECIALLY with the RISE OF CASES! For the record, my son is a rising junior and this summer was supposed to be his gateway to being recruited so he wanted him to play BUT LETS BE SMART and get healthy for NEXT SPRING!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey meatheads, it isnt about the lousy lax that you overpaid for or the refunds that you are never getting. It is about the uncertainty of this Covid Environment and doing what is best for the kids. If throwing them on a field in the August heat to play "Non contact and adequate spacing" lacrosse is your cup of tea then God Bless! Enjoy the 8 hr round trip drive in 1 day for a glorified walk thru at out-of-state tournament. And if you are against it and feel Covid is going to explode again and you want to avoid possible issues then keep your kid home. Its that simple. Everyone has their opinion, right or wrong.


NXT Philly July 11-12
Crabs Young Guns July 18-19
NLF 21st
The Pilly Classic Aug 8-9
LI Lax Fest Aug 14th

it's going to happen, until a kid that never gets on the field tests positive because dad is pissed about his playtime.
lets just call it already and move on to next year
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey meatheads, it isnt about the lousy lax that you overpaid for or the refunds that you are never getting. It is about the uncertainty of this Covid Environment and doing what is best for the kids. If throwing them on a field in the August heat to play "Non contact and adequate spacing" lacrosse is your cup of tea then God Bless! Enjoy the 8 hr round trip drive in 1 day for a glorified walk thru at out-of-state tournament. And if you are against it and feel Covid is going to explode again and you want to avoid possible issues then keep your kid home. Its that simple. Everyone has their opinion, right or wrong.


NXT Philly July 11-12
Crabs Young Guns July 18-19
NLF 21st
The Pilly Classic Aug 8-9
LI Lax Fest Aug 14th

it's going to happen, until a kid that never gets on the field tests positive because dad is pissed about his playtime.


It is because of people with attitudes like this that I am embarrassed to tell people that my son plays this sport
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bodoin is a school full of wimps...


Ahhh yes, more intelligent responses. If this is the response to NESCAC schools cancelling fall sports versus lets work together to keep the curve flat, we will be lucky to play sports next spring without a vaccine. Someone will say fake news, someone else will say lemming, another will say stink it up and if you want to play then play and if you don't then don't BUT but the reality is once schools start cancelling sports there won't be A CHOICE!! I don't understand why people don't get that. At this point it isn't a parental decision (yes maybe practice is) but tournaments are not. They will up to local health officials and local towns REGARDLESS OF WHAT TOURNEY MACHINE or clubs say. I am not saying there wont be any games or tourneys. Someone will buck the trend BUT it won't be the majority and tournaments that are being pushed off will eventually be cancelled ESPECIALLY with the RISE OF CASES! For the record, my son is a rising junior and this summer was supposed to be his gateway to being recruited so he wanted him to play BUT LETS BE SMART and get healthy for NEXT SPRING!!!!!


Everyone does get it. The problem is, no one cares about your point and kids want to play and it is happening. So tell your rising junior he can sit at hone with mommy and daddy in the there bomb shelter until 2021 worried or go out and play. Fortunately in America we have the freedom to make those decisions and it sounds like yours is made.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey meatheads, it isnt about the lousy lax that you overpaid for or the refunds that you are never getting. It is about the uncertainty of this Covid Environment and doing what is best for the kids. If throwing them on a field in the August heat to play "Non contact and adequate spacing" lacrosse is your cup of tea then God Bless! Enjoy the 8 hr round trip drive in 1 day for a glorified walk thru at out-of-state tournament. And if you are against it and feel Covid is going to explode again and you want to avoid possible issues then keep your kid home. Its that simple. Everyone has their opinion, right or wrong.


NXT Philly July 11-12
Crabs Young Guns July 18-19
NLF 21st
The Pilly Classic Aug 8-9
LI Lax Fest Aug 14th

it's going to happen, until a kid that never gets on the field tests positive because dad is pissed about his playtime.


It is because of people with attitudes like this that I am embarrassed to tell people that my son plays this sport

Relax mom, the playtime was a joke. The testing isn't, all it's going to take is one positive test to shut it all down.
The guy above is onto something. There wont be any tournaments or showcases. Your getting jerked buddy! You want to believe so badly but it aint happenning. Move on. Find some other way to embarrass your kid other than screaming from the sidelines

Jerked around by limited practices. Our team isn't practicing all together. Then the clubs wants us to commit to a tournament in Delaware mid July. Parents are holding on to something, what that something is, I don't know...
The N.Y. city marathon was just cancelled. This is in November. It’s been cancelled one other time in history, 2012 for hurricane Sandy. I wouldn’t read to much into tourney machine posting July and August tournaments.
NY, NJ quarantine advisory expands to Delaware.
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NY, NJ quarantine advisory expands to Delaware.
Young Guns is 18th & 19th so everyone should know within a week
This virus is real and should be dealt with by cancelling the season and regrouping next year when we have a vaccine.
Tournament in Jersey this weekend, still on?
keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
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This virus is real and should be dealt with by cancelling the season and regrouping next year when we have a vaccine.

Vaccine.... hmmm. What happened to flatten the curve, decrease number of cases, decrease hospitalizations, decrease ICU cases. Oh yea... that’s been done. Now you want a vaccine. It’s called covid 19 because there previous 18 covid viruses which most do not have a vaccine. Please read and educate yourself lefty.
Jersey Mandatory mask outdoors ..... have fun with that
Thx for that wonderful ananlysis Dr. KnowNothing! It is because of people like you that they will have no choice but to shut it down. Zero risk to kids? Do you know your facts? What about all the clowns like you clustered together yelling "Wheels" at a 12 yr old kid? That's safe too? #youliveasadlife
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Thx for that wonderful ananlysis Dr. KnowNothing! It is because of people like you that they will have no choice but to shut it down. Zero risk to kids? Do you know your facts? What about all the clowns like you clustered together yelling "Wheels" at a 12 yr old kid? That's safe too? #youliveasadlife

Easy there big girl ! The guy has some validity to his point. Not one person under 30 has died from virus in MD. If you have a Healthy boy/girl under 20 , your chances are very small of going to the big lacrosse field in sky.. Let them play and then be safe when you get home around people with issues. Common sense, Now , to finish it off....Wheels Wheels Wheels !!!! Just getting ready for next week tourny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This virus is real and should be dealt with by cancelling the season and regrouping next year when we have a vaccine.

Vaccine.... hmmm. What happened to flatten the curve, decrease number of cases, decrease hospitalizations, decrease ICU cases. Oh yea... that’s been done. Now you want a vaccine. It’s called covid 19 because there previous 18 covid viruses which most do not have a vaccine. Please read and educate yourself lefty.

Genius it's called 19 because it was discovered in 2019 as in last year. Go bury your head in more Fox news
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Tournament in Jersey this weekend, still on?
Go to Tourney Machine and search Lacrosse.. they have 12 tournaments between NJ, DE, NY, RI & MA.
Recon is giving back $500 credits to all players due to no season...
Clearly you sit and watch CNN and View. they are real smart. You love those talking points. OPEN YOU EYES.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
Zero risk to children? What are your credentials to say that?

I'm obese, bald, with high blood pressure, and have fat ankles. I squeeze my fat feet into a size XL flip flop.
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Recon is giving back $500 credits to all players due to no season...
Only credits? What if you aren't going back to Recon?
ITS OVER ...NO SEASON. DEAL WITH IT. IVY LEAGUE JUST CXLD ALL FALL SPORTS.
Agreed just cancel the season and start fresh next year when we understand this virus better...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
Zero risk to children? What are your credentials to say that?

I'm obese, bald, with high blood pressure, and have fat ankles. I squeeze my fat feet into a size XL flip flop.
thats the CDC and the WHO, and hundreds of doctors doctors saying it. Read and do research. The Flu has affects more kids.
There are choices. If you wanna put your kid on a lax field right now you can. And if you dont, you don't have to. Its a choice people, for the time being at least. A guy on my son's team took his son off the field halfway thru the practice. His choice. I actually respected that. And my son stayed , probably against my better judgement. But that was my choice. Either way , this will all be decided for everyone in the next week or so. I just hope everyone has a contingency plan.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
Zero risk to children? What are your credentials to say that?

I'm obese, bald, with high blood pressure, and have fat ankles. I squeeze my fat feet into a size XL flip flop.
thats the CDC and the WHO, and hundreds of doctors doctors saying it. Read and do research. The Flu has affects more kids.
The cdc says that kids arent at a higher risk than adults. Thats a far cry from zero risk. Stop playing internet doctor.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
Zero risk to children? What are your credentials to say that?

I'm obese, bald, with high blood pressure, and have fat ankles. I squeeze my fat feet into a size XL flip flop.
thats the CDC and the WHO, and hundreds of doctors doctors saying it. Read and do research. The Flu has affects more kids.
The cdc says that kids arent at a higher risk than adults. Thats a far cry from zero risk. Stop playing internet doctor.

My 13 year old is hangining out with friends every day. Most are. Not a mask in sight. I don't see how playing lacrosse, dressed like a gladiator, is any different. In fact, may be more safe than running around the neighborhood. If your kids are at home in the bubble, then don't let them play. It's that simple.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]keep your politics , to yourself. Zero risk to children. The Flu is real, sars is real, Th Spanish flu was real nevrer shut down schools. The treatments they have now are bringing the Death toll way down. Life needs to go on . Unless the vaccine is 100 pct effective.why force people to take it. Germany, Sweden, and many other countries kids have been in school. cases are now dropping dramatically. Herd ...Herd... Herd
Zero risk to children? What are your credentials to say that?

I'm obese, bald, with high blood pressure, and have fat ankles. I squeeze my fat feet into a size XL flip flop.
thats the CDC and the WHO, and hundreds of doctors doctors saying it. Read and do research. The Flu has affects more kids.
The cdc says that kids arent at a higher risk than adults. Thats a far cry from zero risk. Stop playing internet doctor.

My 13 year old is hangining out with friends every day. Most are. Not a mask in sight. I don't see how playing lacrosse, dressed like a gladiator, is any different. In fact, may be more safe than running around the neighborhood. If your kids are at home in the bubble, then don't let them play. It's that simple.[/quote


One has nothing to do with the other, my kid is doing the same but we are talking about organized sports. College football, a billion
$ industry is most likely not playing till spring ( ivy already announced and other leagues as a first step to cancelling only playing in league) do you really think anyone cares about lacrosse. It’s a lost year hopefully all will be fine next season.
Will there be any tryouts this year?
What clubs are still making their current players pay and go through tryouts? What clubs are not offering at least a partial credit towards next year for lost parts of this season?
The season that never started is finally over. All events have been cancelled.
Go to google ... The real question is would you be willing to pay $ for a season, in advance, that is going to look significantly different than in years past? What are going to be the limitations in the Fall?
tournament in Jersey tomorrow
Have there been any 2025 games/scrimmages/tournaments recently? Curious to see who is doing what and how they fared?
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tournament in Jersey tomorrow

Still on?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have there been any 2025 games/scrimmages/tournaments recently? Curious to see who is doing what and how they fared?
Team 10 out of PA won YoungGunz.
HHH won something a couple of weeks ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
tournament in Jersey tomorrow

Still on?

Yes blame 91 for that one .
yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
tournament in Jersey tomorrow

Still on?

Yes blame 91 for that one .

So odd that Gov Murphy just announced today that sports like lacrosse are allowed to start competition, with less than 500 people present.
DSM has 20 teams set to play each of the next 2 days. Assume 20 kids per team, 2 coaches per team, handful of refs and some event staff.

Sorry parents, you're not allowed to watch
But on Long Island,
What teams are offering credits for next season? What teams are giving nothing back?
What teams are keeping their teams intact for next year? What teams are making their players still pay and go through tryouts?
Maryland now on Cuomo's list.
Wrong!!!!! only one grad year at a time, play 3 and go. I’m watchin’!
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But on Long Island,
What teams are offering credits for next season? What teams are giving nothing back?
What teams are keeping their teams intact for next year? What teams are making their players still pay and go through tryouts?

My sons team is offering credit for tournaments missed and any part of season lost. No tryouts. Current teams remain the same.
what team is that?
Empire
Who did the shock play today?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did the shock play today?

91 B teams. Mix of 24/25
Who are the Regulators?
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Who are the Regulators?

The next new pickup team full of club kids that aren't happy with their club. Kids from Express, Igloo, 91, Roar, True Blue, etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Regulators?

pretty sure a club team from CSH. like Roar but you don't have to live there
Thank you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did the shock play today?

91 B teams. Mix of 24/25

That was last week. They played Lax Black and Lax Green. Lost both.
i think they're playing express this sunday
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Regulators?

The next new pickup team full of club kids that aren't happy with their club. Kids from Express, Igloo, 91, Roar, True Blue, etc.

kids that aren't happy w the club or PARENTS that aren't happy w the clubs?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Regulators?

The next new pickup team full of club kids that aren't happy with their club. Kids from Express, Igloo, 91, Roar, True Blue, etc.

kids that aren't happy w the club or PARENTS that aren't happy w the clubs?

Parents have to be the ones happy with the direction and what their kid is getting out of the experience. In most cases we're talking about $thousands per year and extreme parent commitment. Of course kid's happiness is a primary consideration, but not for a 12 year old to decide on their own IMO.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did the shock play today?

91 B teams. Mix of 24/25

That was last week. They played Lax Black and Lax Green. Lost both.

Lost to both Laxachusettes teams? Oh boy, that can't be sitting well with the blastards and blastettes.
REGULATORS ..... LOL ...... rename it the land of unhappy parents that have all the answers.....
Mostly because they didn’t lose to both
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did the shock play today?

91 B teams. Mix of 24/25

That was last week. They played Lax Black and Lax Green. Lost both.

The Shock is when Blast doesn’t lose.
91 no match for Express today
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91 no match for Express today
Where was the tournament ?
New Jersey
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 no match for Express today
Where was the tournament ?
New Jersey
what was the score?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what was the score?

Seriously?!?!? If you have a kid on either team, ask them. They'll tell you.
If you don't, why are you asking? And don't give the "I'm a lacrosse fan" excuse
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