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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #188030 10/04/16 08:29 AM
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No,I think you missed it. the first part of the original post is a the poster making a point based upon his/her opinion on how programs should be developing and preparing kids - fine. The second part of the post devolves to the typical hate spewing intended to insult parents of kids who have made early D1 verbals. It has no value and will not change anything, including the recruiting status of his own child. Stop rooting for kids to fail and hating on what others have. It doesn't make your kid any better as a player or you any better as a parent. Whether or not ER is good or bad for the game is incidental until the rules change. But just stop pretending all of this ER bashing is anything else but jealousy. And if you are fortunate enough to take advantage of it, I would recommend that you do. Then I bet the perspective changes - pretty quickly.
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What's with D1 commits. Is that what you base an organization on. That's sad. How about an organization developing kids so that they get into a good college regardless of what division they are in. Plus why give a verbal when your in 10th grade? Oh so you the parent can tell your friends that your kid gave a verbal. Get a life.


Ok, I guess having multiple D1 commits on one team only means you have multiple kids that have shown they are among the best kids in their respective grade. If yours is turning down those D1 offers in hopes of something better, more power to him. Either way, your envy shines through...


Seems you missed the point that the other post was making, so OK . . . [/quote]

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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #188036 10/04/16 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
No,I think you missed it. the first part of the original post is a the poster making a point based upon his/her opinion on how programs should be developing and preparing kids - fine. The second part of the post devolves to the typical hate spewing intended to insult parents of kids who have made early D1 verbals. It has no value and will not change anything, including the recruiting status of his own child. Stop rooting for kids to fail and hating on what others have. It doesn't make your kid any better as a player or you any better as a parent. Whether or not ER is good or bad for the game is incidental until the rules change. But just stop pretending all of this ER bashing is anything else but jealousy. And if you are fortunate enough to take advantage of it, I would recommend that you do. Then I bet the perspective changes - pretty quickly.
Stop the hate (and envy...)! quote=Anonymous]
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's with D1 commits. Is that what you base an organization on. That's sad. How about an organization developing kids so that they get into a good college regardless of what division they are in. Plus why give a verbal when your in 10th grade? Oh so you the parent can tell your friends that your kid gave a verbal. Get a life.


Ok, I guess having multiple D1 commits on one team only means you have multiple kids that have shown they are among the best kids in their respective grade. If yours is turning down those D1 offers in hopes of something better, more power to him. Either way, your envy shines through...


Seems you missed the point that the other post was making, so OK . . .
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Great post above, right on target. Mine was the original post responding to the post regarding a certain Club's status in the 2018 and 2019 grades. The clubs, and HS teams, are usually judged on how "good" they are based on the number of D1 commits, like it or not. A club is also judged by consumers by the number of kids they commit. The teams from that other particular club only have one or two commits combined from those grade years. In fact, a couple of kids left, and went elsewhere to get a commitment. That's just a fact. Other clubs on LI other than the big two, have multiple commits in those grades. So, if your son's goal is to play lacrosse in college, at the highest levels, he would be better served at other clubs given their track records and the track record of the club in question. This is not an opinion, it is just based on numbers, which don't lie.

Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
B_O_T_C #188050 10/04/16 10:07 AM
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Sounds like TZ's team floundering ...They didn't have a 2019 team last year but I hope those kids stay together its a little late to find another team.

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Sounds like TZ's team floundering ...They didn't have a 2019 team last year but I hope those kids stay together its a little late to find another team.


The 2019 TZ team is a great group that isn't floundering and will prob stick together now.

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B_O_T_C #188222 10/05/16 09:02 AM
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Legitimate question...What is the purpose of the club team? Is it to improve player ability? Player to have fun or get player committed/recruited? I have my thoughts on this subject, would like to hear some other feedback and feelings on the club game.

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Anonymous #188229 10/05/16 09:39 AM
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Legitimate question...What is the purpose of the club team? Is it to improve player ability? Player to have fun or get player committed/recruited? I have my thoughts on this subject, would like to hear some other feedback and feelings on the club game.


In a vacuum you want all three. But placement of AAA AA and A along with the business of the game can really deplete the fun factor. Conversely the division of the levels AAA AA and A really do heighten and even separate the focus on Recruiting.

I have yet to truly see teaching over the expectation to just do. even at clinics it all reps and not how to

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Anonymous #188473 10/06/16 02:49 PM
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If one organization recruits all the best players they should have alot of D1 commits. My kid has been in contact with 10 to 15 D1 schools and he doesn't play travel. Played in the past but never for one of the big programs. So I would disagree with what you said.

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B_O_T_C #188502 10/06/16 05:54 PM
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Then how was your son seen?

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B_O_T_C #188527 10/06/16 08:42 PM
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High school.

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B_O_T_C #188529 10/06/16 08:54 PM
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Just to give some advice to others. If your son is a good lax player and works hard and you are a realistic parent then all you have to do is get your son in the right position for him. There are plenty of things out there for your kid to do to get noticed. It's not all about the top organizations getting your kid in a D1 program. Don't get me wrong it does help. Do what is right for your kid. Make some contacts on and off the field with lax guys and people will be more then happy to give you ideas. Funny thing is that I have not dumped alot of money on travel and I can write to you and say how proud I am of all of his hard work that he did to get to varsity as a freshman, start and is being looked at by D1 schools. But if he chooses to go to a D3 school that's fine with me. Proud no matter where he goes.

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Re: Boys 2019- 10th Grade Fall 2016/Summer 2017
Anonymous #188562 10/07/16 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If one organization recruits all the best players they should have alot of D1 commits. My kid has been in contact with 10 to 15 D1 schools and he doesn't play travel. Played in the past but never for one of the big programs. So I would disagree with what you said.


Unfortunately, most HS programs do NOT get the kind of exposure you're talking about. If your son is at strong program and played Varsity as a Freshman, that's great. If he's at an average program and receiving that kind of exposure, consider yourself extremely lucky. Lastly, if your son is that good, then he's that 1/10 of 1% of kids. Congrats, an example of "if he's that good they'll find him". For the rest of us, who's kid's had to really work to get some exposure, your method will not work. Mine is a D1 commit, played varsity as a freshman, and had to do many events to get recruited. Without the support of his club, would have never gotten into the top showcases, where was an all-star. His HS Coach didn't even know what those events were, let alone have any ability to secure an invite! Without the club piece he still wouldn't be committed.

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B_O_T_C #188607 10/07/16 11:23 AM
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Fortunate for our program we have hs coaches that care. They have been around and would be happy to help out the kids. In my son's case the hard work payed off. More hs coaches should do the same for the kids. It's a top hs program that he plays for that has always been successful. Very proud parents of all that he has worked for. Just to put it out there he only played in one recruiting tournament and is getting calls and emails from D1 schools. Keep your kids confidence up and encourage him to go get that spot on varsity if that's one of his goals. You can get looks from D1 without having to do travel is all that I'm trying to say. Don't give all of these travel teams that much credit.

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Anonymous #188737 10/08/16 06:19 AM
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Fortunate for our program we have hs coaches that care. They have been around and would be happy to help out the kids. In my son's case the hard work payed off. More hs coaches should do the same for the kids. It's a top hs program that he plays for that has always been successful. Very proud parents of all that he has worked for. Just to put it out there he only played in one recruiting tournament and is getting calls and emails from D1 schools. Keep your kids confidence up and encourage him to go get that spot on varsity if that's one of his goals. You can get looks from D1 without having to do travel is all that I'm trying to say. Don't give all of these travel teams that much credit.


If your son did "one" event and got 15 D1 teams interested, that's unheard of, he must be the next Rabil.
Again, your advise is great for a kid at a top HS program, with a Coach that's on the ball and interested in getting his players recruited. Without that support, it is very difficult to get recruited at the D1 level. That's why the club piece is so important. No, I'm not affiliated with any Club, just letting folks know the other side of the story.

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B_O_T_C #188838 10/08/16 09:25 PM
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Your another one of those non believer's. I said 10 to 15 D1 coaches. 43 total emails were sent to him if you really want to know. Maybe you need me to show you the emails. Oh I deleted them by mistake. Unheard of but no you can say you heard od it. What the heck would I lie to anybody about that. I'm as proud as can be of my son. You don't need travel to get looked at by D1 school and that my friend is a fact. 2

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B_O_T_C #188842 10/08/16 10:04 PM
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If your kid is good they will find him trust me.

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