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#149431 - 01/31/16 10:05 PM High School Lax Girls  
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#149436 - 02/01/16 07:58 AM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: TommyM]  

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In reply to the last post of the old thread, look up the article in the Baltimore sun from last year "5 Female UMBC Lacrosse Players Suspended For Threatening Violence " a very real problem about upperclass v. younger players although this was college

#149462 - 02/01/16 12:30 PM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: TommyM]  

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Thank you!!

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Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

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I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

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#149692 - 02/03/16 10:28 AM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Sounds like two good players, some programs would kill for that problem of two good goalies. Unfortunately it seemed like a matter of waiting your turn to play. From the sounds of it both are hugely talented, and you can't fault a coach for starting one over the other. To bad DK wasn't coaching at Holly Trinity last year, the girl could of went there to play.

#149699 - 02/03/16 11:44 AM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.


Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.


Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.


That whole statement is nonsensical BS.

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agreed..total nonsense..i dislike DK like everyone else--if not more, but any kid who suits up on a UNC Lax team deserves every bit of plaudits that she has coming...the fact that Elevate was her travel program is a feather in the cap...maybe she got in because of her grades?...who gives a F--K?...she is playing D1 lax on one of the top teams in the country...

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.


Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.


It doesn't work that way at the top programs. Call any of the top programs (by top I am talking top 20 to 30 or so) and tell the coach "hey, my daughter is a great student and I am not looking for a scholarship" and see what happens. They do not just commit kids because they have good grades and the parents are not looking for a scholarship. There is no need to carry dead wood especially at one of the best programs in the country.

The top 10 - 20 programs do not have any trouble filling their rosters with the girls that they "recruit". They also recruit more girls than they "offer" spots to. I would bet that if North Carolina offered her a spot she is pretty damn good.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.


You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.

#149719 - 02/03/16 01:51 PM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: Anonymous]  

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.


And the starting goalie was a senior last year so why should she sit for a junior of equal talent? And I'm not saying they're equal. I don't know either of them. But JS knows goalies. He had the 2013 and 2014 D1 goalie of the year. And it was at SBU, not UNC. He builds his teams from the defense out. This young lady comes in as a freshman to unseat the starting goalie, a junior? She's got to be all that and a bag of chips. I'm sure the young lady your taking about its fantastic. But she's only committed to UNC and they probably will have 3 more on the team by the time she gets there. Will she be starting for UNC? Who knows, but I can tell you who is starting this year. Starting for the top defensive unit in the NCAA.

I bet you the former HTon coach feels pretty vindicated now.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.


You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.


The coach doesn't care about this site. That's a joke. The whole situation is laughable and will work itself out in the spring. The girls in question are either going to help the team win OR they will play the game like they do now and try to run through defenders. That won't work against bigger, stronger better players. So they will have to learn to play a team game. Eventually that will help the team win. Maybe not this year or even next, but in future years it definitely will. The Sayville program has some very talented girls. There is a strong group in 10th grade and some very strong 11th graders; however, there is not much below the current 10th graders. The next best girls are these 7th graders. Are they ready for varsity? Who knows, it's not my call. The coach would probably prefer to get them in now to learn the system so that they can be his core in two years. It makes sense from a coaches perspective, but from a player/parent perspective it's a disaster. Let's see how it goes in the spring and leave this alone.

#149724 - 02/03/16 02:26 PM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: TommyM]  

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Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

#149741 - 02/03/16 03:33 PM Re: High School Lax Girls [Re: Anonymous]  

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I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team. The elevate BS was a joke and all people who know the deal treated it that way. Let him go back to the High School where his kids have played. Not HHS scouting for talent. People aren't that stupid. This was also the first year that 7th graders played at the high school level. there were a few selected by the varsity head coach. Just so happens her daughter who is a good player is in that mix. One would think after an under-achieving season the year before the coach might have had the sense to keep her own kid in middle school for the season she wasn't a must option on JV. Certainly opened the coach to further speculation. You have to feel bad for all involved. Parents should learn, let the players play. If your kid is getting screwed over go to another school. Coaching selections should also have no family ties no matter how well handled, it always gives the people something to complain about.

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