High School Lax Girls - Back of THE CAGE

Here you are. Play nice, please.

In reply to the last post of the old thread, look up the article in the Baltimore sun from last year "5 Female UMBC Lacrosse Players Suspended For Threatening Violence " a very real problem about upperclass v. younger players although this was college

Thank you!!

Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Sounds like two good players, some programs would kill for that problem of two good goalies. Unfortunately it seemed like a matter of waiting your turn to play. From the sounds of it both are hugely talented, and you can't fault a coach for starting one over the other. To bad DK wasn't coaching at Holly Trinity last year, the girl could of went there to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.

That whole statement is nonsensical BS.

agreed..total nonsense..i dislike DK like everyone else--if not more, but any kid who suits up on a UNC Lax team deserves every bit of plaudits that she has coming...the fact that Elevate was her travel program is a feather in the cap...maybe she got in because of her grades?...who gives a F--K?...she is playing D1 lax on one of the top teams in the country...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

Maybe, maybe not. The difference is one is being touted as the starting player at the D1 level after proving herself in fall games and on the practice field. While committing to UNC is a nice accomplishment ,no one knows the facts around it. Do not know the kid personally but their is the possibility that she is a great student and would have gotten in academically or that she wanted no money so why would the school not take a chance and have her commit.

It doesn't work that way at the top programs. Call any of the top programs (by top I am talking top 20 to 30 or so) and tell the coach "hey, my daughter is a great student and I am not looking for a scholarship" and see what happens. They do not just commit kids because they have good grades and the parents are not looking for a scholarship. There is no need to carry dead wood especially at one of the best programs in the country.

The top 10 - 20 programs do not have any trouble filling their rosters with the girls that they "recruit". They also recruit more girls than they "offer" spots to. I would bet that if North Carolina offered her a spot she is pretty damn good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not an Elevate fan for a why you stirring this up? While last years starting goalie at Huntington may very well be an excellent player, the other goalie who sat is currently a senior committed to play at UNC. I guess someone else thinks very highly of THAT young player.

And the starting goalie was a senior last year so why should she sit for a junior of equal talent? And I'm not saying they're equal. I don't know either of them. But JS knows goalies. He had the 2013 and 2014 D1 goalie of the year. And it was at SBU, not UNC. He builds his teams from the defense out. This young lady comes in as a freshman to unseat the starting goalie, a junior? She's got to be all that and a bag of chips. I'm sure the young lady your taking about its fantastic. But she's only committed to UNC and they probably will have 3 more on the team by the time she gets there. Will she be starting for UNC? Who knows, but I can tell you who is starting this year. Starting for the top defensive unit in the NCAA.

I bet you the former HTon coach feels pretty vindicated now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.

The coach doesn't care about this site. That's a joke. The whole situation is laughable and will work itself out in the spring. The girls in question are either going to help the team win OR they will play the game like they do now and try to run through defenders. That won't work against bigger, stronger better players. So they will have to learn to play a team game. Eventually that will help the team win. Maybe not this year or even next, but in future years it definitely will. The Sayville program has some very talented girls. There is a strong group in 10th grade and some very strong 11th graders; however, there is not much below the current 10th graders. The next best girls are these 7th graders. Are they ready for varsity? Who knows, it's not my call. The coach would probably prefer to get them in now to learn the system so that they can be his core in two years. It makes sense from a coaches perspective, but from a player/parent perspective it's a disaster. Let's see how it goes in the spring and leave this alone.

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team. The elevate BS was a joke and all people who know the deal treated it that way. Let him go back to the High School where his kids have played. Not HHS scouting for talent. People aren't that stupid. This was also the first year that 7th graders played at the high school level. there were a few selected by the varsity head coach. Just so happens her daughter who is a good player is in that mix. One would think after an under-achieving season the year before the coach might have had the sense to keep her own kid in middle school for the season she wasn't a must option on JV. Certainly opened the coach to further speculation. You have to feel bad for all involved. Parents should learn, let the players play. If your kid is getting screwed over go to another school. Coaching selections should also have no family ties no matter how well handled, it always gives the people something to complain about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

I brought the same up last year. Is it a budget thing either way it's BS. Same thing with upstate Lakeland/Panas and a few others. Power house programs getting stronger.

Stop complain and have your school beat them. Both schools are under one umbrella. Middle Country. There's your answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

I brought the same up last year. Is it a budget thing either way it's BS. Same thing with upstate Lakeland/Panas and a few others. Power house programs getting stronger.

Oh yeah because the $6,000 coaching salary can't be found in a $100 million school budget. Give me a break. They don't have enough interest, if they did they would have independent teams like every other sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop complain and have your school beat them. Both schools are under one umbrella. Middle Country. There's your answer.

Teams aren't meant to be district teams but school teams... Get it "school" teams. If not you would not need special dispensations for schools to merge in order to form a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

what are you going to do next year when Sachem combines

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

...You are supposed to recruit...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

...You are supposed to recruit...

recruit in 9th grade? aren't they supposed to be able to play by then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have had kids moved up for various sports for both boys and girls and the upperclassmen have never been an issue . Parents of upperclassmen have .

On a different note I recall a few very vocal Huntington parents bashing their coaches because they felt there was such an obvious bias toward certain club players etc especially at the goalie position . I just read the college rankings and see that the #4 ranked team in the country will be starting the true freshmen goalie that I believe is the player they all felt got such favoritism from her coach. I guess the former Huntington coach was not the only one who thinks so highly of this young player. If that is the case it kind of makes all the complaint by these Elevate people seem a lot less credible and also seems that a coach may have lost her job because of these nonsensical parents.

You are spot on with the parent being the issue, at least in the Sayville case. Who in their right mind goes on the internet stirring up trouble for 12 year old girls. Word has it the coaches know exactly who it is, only causing trouble for themselves really, or even sadder for their daughter.

The coach doesn't care about this site. That's a joke. The whole situation is laughable and will work itself out in the spring. The girls in question are either going to help the team win OR they will play the game like they do now and try to run through defenders. That won't work against bigger, stronger better players. So they will have to learn to play a team game. Eventually that will help the team win. Maybe not this year or even next, but in future years it definitely will. The Sayville program has some very talented girls. There is a strong group in 10th grade and some very strong 11th graders; however, there is not much below the current 10th graders. The next best girls are these 7th graders. Are they ready for varsity? Who knows, it's not my call. The coach would probably prefer to get them in now to learn the system so that they can be his core in two years. It makes sense from a coaches perspective, but from a player/parent perspective it's a disaster. Let's see how it goes in the spring and leave this alone.

Can't see how anyone would question what MR does. He's not my daughters coach and I don't live in Sayville but I wish he was and we wish we did but I'm not crazy enough to move our family for lacrosse. He's right up there with all the best high school coaches on LI and a really good person in addition to that. I just don't understand how any parent can question coaches of this kind of caliber. Whatever his strategy or plan is - it is to make his team stronger and win. If that involves 7th graders then so be it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

...You are supposed to recruit...

recruit in 9th grade? aren't they supposed to be able to play by then?

...recruit in the MS years...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to.

I never gave the topic much thought but you bring up a very good point. If they are cutting kids I think it needs to be addressed by Section XI. I am pretty sure the parents of the stronger players at Sachem East and West, Smithtown East and West and HHH East and west would be happy to combine in order to become more competitive.

No problem if they want to combine and field only one team but they should not have cuts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that both Newfield and Centereach independently on their own are Class A schools but they are allowed to combine for Girls Lacrosse as Middle Country? Newfield has 1379 students and Centereach has 1138. How is it possible that they do not have enough girls to field separate teams? Do they combine and then have cuts?

Lots of schools struggle to field 2 teams of girls lacrosse. Our school recruits 1st time players in the lunch room for JV because anyone that can throw and catch has already been pulled up to varsity!

Then don't field two teams. You are supposed to r fruit to field teams. Should be doing it during the MS years. Looking at gym classes.

Last I checked middle country has some very good players wonder what the mix of geographic location of the stars there.

And I will go back to the budget and it is not just two coaches salaries like someone posted.

If MC is struggling to field a team they why did they cut girls last year? It sound like they have enough girls to field two teams but choose not to.

I never gave the topic much thought but you bring up a very good point. If they are cutting kids I think it needs to be addressed by Section XI. I am pretty sure the parents of the stronger players at Sachem East and West, Smithtown East and West and HHH East and west would be happy to combine in order to become more competitive.

No problem if they want to combine and field only one team but they should not have cuts.

Just so you remember, there were three D1 recruit goalies on the team.

Maybe his other goalies (he has three more) are not well thought of.

It looks like next year Huntington will be playing in the Class A division 2016-2017 season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team.

So your saying huntington goalie played selfish and ignored the coaches , And the coach did nothing because the parents were loud ?

Disagree with that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was hoping all of this was a dead issue. Both goalies are great. If equal start the senior but the Junior could have had more work. As for the team overall, it was very talented individually but never played like a team. who's fault is that you can draw your own conclusions, but when a player is told to do something and they repeatedly do not do it. They should not play no matter how loud the parent is. Period. Particularly on a deep team.

So your saying huntington goalie played selfish and ignored the coaches , And the coach did nothing because the parents were loud ?

Disagree with that

Ridiculous.

Who said goalie, no one. The team overall was free lancing during games. Really difficult to even thing how a goalie would be seen as free lancing, except for perhaps on clears. Which is a whatever. Both goalies are extremely good players and will be team leaders on the next level.

Huntington ***** Really? I don't know who is posting all this crap but let the girls play lacrosse and let the coach coach.
Get a life dad!!!!'nnn

who is going to win suffolk class A this year please reply even though 99% of you do not have a clue !!

Everyone knows MC is the team to beat!

Copaigue

Ward Melville will surprise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is going to win suffolk class A this year please reply even though 99% of you do not have a clue !!

Both Smithtowns will contend for the top spot with MC and WM

West Islip will repeat as County champs

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

wardmelville is a sleeper
west islip overrated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

Can't stop anonymously picking on 7th grade girls on the internet? So pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will surprise

Did they get a new coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

I guess then 4th grader is still probably better than your daughter who didn't get brought up I. Probably why you are crying so much. Go back to the 4th or 5th team of your travel club and keep complaining to those parents. Guess you wasted some $$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will surprise

Did they get a new coach?

Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone knows MC is the team to beat!

I thought they lost to West Islip??? Guess they are the team to beat, believe they are very well coached and play like a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will surprise

Did they get a new coach?

Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation???

Are you talking about the 2018's at U15?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will surprise

Did they get a new coach?

Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation???

Wow, you seem to have a lot of animosity. Didn't read the question that way you did at all.

Please tell us why "WM will surprise". They have had plenty of talent over the years but they never get it done. What is different this year? If as you say "the talent is there for sure" then the logical question is "did they get a new coach?". What else has changed that would cause them to surprise?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ward Melville will surprise

Did they get a new coach?

Funny....said thing I am 100% sure this post is from disgruntled WM parent who thought their daughter should have been brought up in 8th grade. Talent is there for sure, let the coaches coach parents. If I recall most of the girls come from same club program and they couldn't get it done either. Hmmmm....are you sure it is the coach or unrealistic expectation???

I asked the question and I am not disgruntled. Ward Melville has a new AD and there have been rumors about a new coach. True or just rumors?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club.

She probably does, and still got leap frogged by a 9 year old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about class B and C ?
Who will battle it out with ESM?

How about Mt Sinai? Or Bayport? Anyone else??

Don't count out Sayville. I heard they brought up a 4th grade phenom!

Wow that has to suck to have your teenage daughter replaced by a 9 year old. Guess you should have shot the lock off moms wallet and had her play club.

She probably does, and still got leap frogged by a 9 year old.

You're probably right! That's got to hurt. No wonder why they're bitter.

Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant

No bashing, but just making a few points. This question leads to the assumption that the purpose of playing is solely to get recruited. There are girls who get recruited for many reasons, I have heard of girls sending in recruiting videos for Soccer, B-ball and field hockey who included Lax in their recruiting videos to show athleticism and ended up getting recruited to play lax rather than their "primary sport" (doesn't happen often but more frequently than you think). But the majority of recruiting happens in two forums; the first being the club scene, the second being camps and these "elite" showcases such as the Nike 120 (many times arranged through club, but HS coaches can recomend girls as well).

Now to the question of whether or not a HS coach is still relevant? The answer is certainly yes, and for a few reasons. Your daughter will spend almost 3 months practicing with the HS coach, so whether or not they are good will impact your daughter's development in one direction or the other, this is huge because your daughter will probably have more HS practices each year (or close) than club. In addition to on field impact, the HS coach can/should still have a supporting presence during recruiting (usually not a primary role). A good coach can/should facilitate needed info to potential college coaches, grades, stats etc.

So they are relevant, and the better your HS coach is the more positive impact it will have on the overall development of your daughter and the cast that plays with her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Serious question, please no bashing, has anyone gotten recruited recently because of their high school coach? Are they still relevant

Players get recruited because of "the player" not because of the HS or club coach/director. At least at competitive college programs. There are so many "recruiting" events these days that college coaches watch the players multiple times. Summer tournaments, Fall tournaments, college camps, and several high profile showcase events are all opportunities for college coaches to watch the girls play. When college coaches like what they see they reach out to the player (most of the time it is through the club director).

HS coaches are not relevant as far as recruiting is concerned.

Thanks so much. Very thorough response.

In my town the Varsity coach is heavily involved in the process. He makes and receives calls daily. He is more involved in the second tier players. The one or two studs get it done through the club scene but many more are helped directly by him.

Same goes for one of the girls coaches in our town who is so heavily involved in everything from year long youth lacrosse training , personal fitness trainer , and even a personal life coach for each participant . He also makes sure they play on the best possible travel organization , regardless you can afford it or not , he needs ratings !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In my town the Varsity coach is heavily involved in the process. He makes and receives calls daily. He is more involved in the second tier players. The one or two studs get it done through the club scene but many more are helped directly by him.

So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us!

Nassau alphabetical order Garden City, Manhasset, Wantagh could wind up in any order at end of season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who are the teams to beat in Nassau and Suffolk. The season is upon us!

Nassau alphabetical order Garden City, Manhasset, Wantagh could wind up in any order at end of season

Sorry forgot Cold Spring Harbor

where are the Nassau divisions listed?

How many YJ or other LI clubs are represented on the USA today preseason all-American teams?

you would not have asked if you did not already know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you would not have asked if you did not already know

I actually was curious, seems like you are just mad your daughter wasn't selected! Website just lists HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many YJ or other LI clubs are represented on the USA today preseason all-American teams?

Lots of LI girls on the 3rd team which is great! Nobody ever likes when an outside publication ranks players because people tend to believe the hype they are fed non stop at ALL CLUBS.

Congratulations to all the girls who made the list

Top 5 in Suffolk?

Nassau?

Anyone want to take a shot?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 in Suffolk?

Nassau?

Anyone want to take a shot?

Centereach

Suffolk
middle country, west islip, northport, esm, smithtown
Nassau
Wantagh, plainedge, garden city, manhassett, syossett
no particular order

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 in Suffolk?

Nassau?

Anyone want to take a shot?

Centereach

Plainedge? How can you leave out Cold Spring Harbor.

Plainedge Really
Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 in Suffolk?

Nassau?

Anyone want to take a shot?

Newfield

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plainedge? How can you leave out Cold Spring Harbor.

Oyster Bay?

Oops forgot about csh. Was just off the top of my head

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plainedge Really
Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plainedge Really
Cold Spring Harbor , North Shore .....

There really isn't much in Plainedges division except Southside. Every game for CSH and North Shore should be a battle.

Wantagh, LongBeach, Oceanside, Massapequa, Farmingdale, North Shore, Syosset, CSH, Garden City, Manhasset, North Shore

Lynbrook, Hewlett, Bethpage, Southside, Glen Cove, Plainedge, NHP, Roosevelt, Roslyn, Floral Park, Divisions, Friends

are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs

So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs?

or North Shore in B
B is stacked.

i think North Shore surprises people this year. They will beat one or two of the 3 top teams in B this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs

So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs?

That is correct...playoffs are by conference (school population size). B is stacked very year with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh, North Shore, LB...

SUFFOLK!!
melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

are any of the other teams in Plainedge div any good? Lynbrook, Bethpage, Floral Park? and why are teams like Roosevelt and Roslyn in that div anyway

Nassau does a power conference so all those teams first listed play each other during the year. For playoffs they all go back to their respective conference for playoffs

So CSH drops down to "C" playoffs after playing the best of the best during their league schedule? Plainedge wins every league game and then has to play Manhasset Wantagh or GC in playoffs?

That is correct...playoffs are by conference (school population size). B is stacked very year with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh, North Shore, LB...

so teams either ask in or ask out of the power conference? Good for CSH.

MC will win the county

Hmm... What about the defending State Champs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC will win the county

Is that Centereach or Newfield?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK!!
melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest

1. West Islip. Over the past two years they are 40 - 4 with a State Championship. Good coaching and a winning attitude will take them far. Strong leadership. Coaches and players expect to win.

2. Middle Country. Will compete but last year might have been their year. 18 - 1 last year and combined 29 - 7 over the past two years. I think they will be in the mix. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulder. Are they hungry after last year?

3. Northport. 24 - 12 over the past two seasons. Coaching and tradition will keep them competitive. Not sure the horses are there to win the county but you never know. Usually play with a lot of attitude and emotion. Combine that with being well prepared for big games and they can surprise.

4/5. Toss up Smithtown East / Smithtown West. West is 24 - 10 while East is
23 - 11. the last two seasons. Not sure either team has the depth to challenge the top teams.

6. Ward Melville. 19 - 14 past two years. Historically will make playoffs and then lose to a team that they had beaten during the year. Better than .500 but can't see them winning.

Not sure if anyone else has a shot. Sachem East?

Good luck to all.

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Honestly thought he was just ranking teams in the A division which I think they did a good job with.

Mrs. Rose can't win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mrs. Rose can't win

Really, I think Northport has won 7 county championships in the past 14 years. Not sure before 2002.

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Some not all of the people involved with this lax program have that attitude. I suspect it comes from one of their 2021 Mt. S. youth coaches. Played against both on seperate occasions in different scenarios, and they have been crazy 100% of the time. Real winners those two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

What summer club program is that? Don't recall seeing Mt. Sinai at any summer tournaments last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous.

I think they are talking about R P

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Agreed. He's an amazing coach. That statement is ludicrous.

I think they are talking about R P

Says "Mount Sinai" - how did you get RP out of that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Here is the RP post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MC will win the county

Is that Centereach or Newfield?

How many girls try out for MC Varsity?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Here is the RP post

How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Here is the RP post

How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

Not to mention the clear conflict of interest with the RP youth / tournament teams he coaches. New AD coming after this year, hopefully with the stones to make some changes.

Because he offers free mis-informative lacrosse training and free track use on saturdays with every purchase of buying into his BS.
Amazing the varsity coach bought into it another year .
Some things will never change !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Here is the RP post

How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

He's known by many nicknames but one thing is for sure he has become " Freemasonry " of girls RP lacrosse .. the secret underworld that will not go away until someone in charge grows a pair of balls and wipes the slate clean !

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea Neighbor same here, but in our town the Youth program runs the whole program , and our Varsity coach lets the youth coaches pick his JV and varsity players for him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai is a very strong program, Their youth coaches have built a strong program introduced a good summer Club program but their weakness is the Head Coach, he is a lucky man!

This is probably the dumbest statement on this board...ever! And I am not a YJ parent and live in a neighboring town who would love him as a coach for my daughter!

Here is the RP post

How the [lacrosse] does RP have a JV coach that doesn't even know how to hold a stick? Screams like a lunatic, degrades and screams his head off at refs and the girls.

Not to mention the clear conflict of interest with the RP youth / tournament teams he coaches. New AD coming after this year, hopefully with the stones to make some changes.
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Believe it or nit not that many as u think. Jv nay only have 15 girls

How do the Varsity and JV numbers look in Huntington? Will they bring any 8th/9th graders up this year?

Better 8th graders on the move up. That's a fact Jack

Anyone have any update on the LI All American games? My daughter is finally of age, and while I know some readers say it's a biased selection it was a great day last year to watch some very talented lacrosse players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better 8th graders on the move up. That's a fact Jack

HA-HA-HA-HA

Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent?

Nut bag parents have final say still

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nut bag parents have final say still

Just curious, are the parents of juniors and seniors who are not very good also considered nut bags when they lobby for their daughter even when it is clear that younger players are better? Or do you subscribe to the wait your turn model?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nut bag parents have final say still

Just curious, are the parents of juniors and seniors who are not very good also considered nut bags when they lobby for their daughter even when it is clear that younger players are better? Or do you subscribe to the wait your turn model?

Sounds like the usual control issues inherent in the town program � cronyism, living by the bay, maybe being a member of the 'club', travel coach affiliations � and this is just the girls' side. Kind of like most programs, huh?

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Why are parents "lobbying" for their daughters? Let them tryout/play without your phone calls, emails and texts. You are not the coach and shouldn't be in their ear anyway. Everyone knows the moms and dads who do this over and over.

If I may give an opinion, this whole discussion could end if NY State would go to the 4 year varsity rule. Personally, No 7th or 8th grader should play varsity. Say what you want about the best players, but if the district puts in a coach that, in this day and age, only wants to coach during season, and not invest the time in the youth organization, than they should only play with the available players from high school. The only exception should be if not enough girls tryout (20). If you look at the most successful programs all have very good youth programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent?

Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

That would fix many a problem if Huntington were to adopt that rule. The social impact of girls playing up by such a large margin is monumental.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

HS Coaches do not always play their best players. A HS team that makes no changes in the lineup, ever, from game 1 to the last game is doing so either to make it easy/simple for the coaches for due to the usual HS athletics baloney that goes on in many districts. Not every player will perform at their top level every day in every game. Each game brings a different opponent which likely would warrant tweaking in the players on the field. If this never happens, it's not because a kid or two or three on bench are not as good as a few of the starters who were named on day 1.

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior.

"As documented on this site" - yeah, because BOTC is the internet equivalent of 60 Minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test.

Don't kid yourself about the importance of winning at the HS coaching level. A tenured teacher coaching at their own school is very hard to get rid of due to teacher contracts. In fact, that's how lots of them get their coaching jobs in the first place - there is definitely a pecking order and teachers are at the very top.

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior.

Is there something wrong with you ? What you said proves nothing , maybe the D3 commit is better or was a better fit, or was a team player, or hustled more, or was a lefty, or the coach just thought was better. Not even sure of what your point is but if you believe that a D1 commit is automatically better than a D3 commit then your previous posts about Spallina make more sense to me.

"As documented on this site" - yeah, because BOTC is the internet equivalent of 60 Minutes.
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Funny

I would like to ask the parents of the 7th & 8th graders that feel their daughters
Should be on varsity playing over 11th & 12th graders , how they would feel if in 3 or 4 years from now a 7th or 8th grader took their spot because they were equal in talent & the coach was looking towards the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

Coaches play their best athletes....only the parents who think their daughter is better but sitting on the bench think otherwise.

thats not true at all, last year, as documented on this site, a school played an uncommitted (later a D3) junior girl over a D1 senior.

Is there something wrong with you ? What you said proves nothing , maybe the D3 commit is better or was a better fit, or was a team player, or hustled more, or was a lefty, or the coach just thought was better. Not even sure of what your point is but if you believe that a D1 commit is automatically better than a D3 commit then your previous posts about Spallina make more sense to me.

thanks ......i think

Originally Posted by Anonymous

DO you really think that a coach would not put his best 12 girls on the field? Even if the 7th or 8th graders were on varsity, they would play based on their ability to get the job done. To play a less skilled girl would be ludicrous. Now having an 8th grader and 10th grader all other things being equal, I may lean towards playing the younger player as I could get more years and development out of her. Let's face it if an 8th grader is as good as a 10th or 11th grader now at this point the upside to this player is greater. Many times an 8th grade travel girls with triple or more game (including big games in finals of tourns) that a non-travel but solid mutli-sport upperclassman. But there is much to be said for emotional maturity of a player as well. So many variables, and many ways to look at it. Depends on the coaches philosophy.

Yes, I do think there are coaches who do not play the best 12 kids. It happens in our district all the time. It creates a negative divisive environment for the team and a toxic sideline for the parents. For me to speak as to why this happens would be pure speculation but it has been happening for a long time. As a result the team consistently under achieves every year. Very unfortunate situation, all of the girls deserve better.

this makes no sense to me and while I think parents think this sometimes, it is not logical. Why would a coach not play the kids that could help them win? If they win over time, they keep their job. The thought of playing players who are not the best in the coaches mind (we may not agree with him/her) does not pass the logic test.

Don't kid yourself about the importance of winning at the HS coaching level. A tenured teacher coaching at their own school is very hard to get rid of due to teacher contracts. In fact, that's how lots of them get their coaching jobs in the first place - there is definitely a pecking order and teachers are at the very top.

Sure, they would rather lose than win? Makes no sense.

Mr. or Mrs Anonymous,
I wasn't going through the whole shabang again concerning last year, go read it yourself, But if you don't think good players are not played by H.S coaches your kidding your self. Be it club alliance, parents, nepotism , or bad coaching it happens all the time

From what I understand, MP has also 'promoted' 2 8th graders and 1 7th grader to varsity; that's the same amount of 10 graders (2) and 9th graders (1) also on varsity. My understanding is that if these girls are promoted to varsity, they have to get playing time.
With the core of solid 12 and 11th graders who will play, that is going to leave a bunch of angry 11th and 12th grade parents whose girls aren't playing.
MP fired their coach last year because of incompetence and they bring in a quality coach who beings up a 7th and 2 9th graders; this sounds like a train wreck to me. The funny thing is the 7th graders father is cray cray and now he has a 7th grader on varsity and an 11th grader playing jv...let the fun begin.

Originally Posted by Georgie

I would like to ask the parents of the 7th & 8th graders that feel their daughters
Should be on varsity playing over 11th & 12th graders , how they would feel if in 3 or 4 years from now a 7th or 8th grader took their spot because they were equal in talent & the coach was looking towards the future.

Its about WINNING! Its varsity! If a younger girl is better than a lump thats been carried along on a no cut team then the coach is doing his/her job!

You are wrong! It's not only about winning, but that attitude is what has ruined the sport and a whole lot of friendships along the way. The blinders and desperation to have your child play varsity or have a certain amount of playing time is the whole other dimension to the story.

[quote=Anonymous]From what I understand, MP has also 'promoted' 2 8th graders and 1 7th grader to varsity; that's the same amount of 10 graders (2) and 9th graders (1) also on varsity. My understanding is that if these girls are promoted to varsity, they have to get playing time.
With the core of solid 12 and 11th graders who will play, that is going to leave a bunch of angry 11th and 12th grade parents whose girls aren't playing.
MP fired their coach last year because of incompetence and they bring in a quality coach who beings up a 7th and 2 9th graders; this sounds like a train wreck to me. The funny thing is the 7th graders father is cray cray and now he has a 7th grader on varsity and an 11th grader playing jv...let the fun begin. [/quote

Quality coach, good luck w that . How many programs have gotten rid of the new coach in the past several years .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent?

Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids??

Its riverhead! its a [lacrosse] show run by the parents, their next win over a quality opppnent will be their first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous that Huntington has 7th and 8 th graders trying out for varsity and jv.... Are they that desperate for talent?

Is it true Riverhead brought a whole group of 8th graders up to varsity?? I heard not just one kid but like 5-6 kids??

Its riverhead! its a [lacrosse] show run by the parents, their next win over a quality opppnent will be their first

Its ridiculous that those kids were moved up. They are good 8th graders but none are the exceptional player, all are on the smaller side, and were moved up as a group because the parents are such a horror that if they moved up 1 or 2 the other parents would have gone ballistic. That program will end up a horrible mess as multiple kids who are actually high school age will end up quitting the team.

Bringing up the couple of 7th and 8th grade club players is hurting many programs. Girls in 9th, 10th, 11th that are serviceable players are quitting because some underclassman are jumping up in the batting order. So on lots of these teams you have a handful of really good club girls, the middle girls have quit after getting squeezed and the girls filling out the roster were recruited in gym class. The only one benefitting is the 7th and 8th graders padding their athletic resume but the program suffers.

Last year the Huntington BOE decided that no 7th graders can be on the high school teams. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last year the Huntington BOE decided that no 7th graders can be on the high school teams. Just saying.

That may be the case but it doesn't say anything about the 8th graders being moved up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bringing up the couple of 7th and 8th grade club players is hurting many programs. Girls in 9th, 10th, 11th that are serviceable players are quitting because some underclassman are jumping up in the batting order. So on lots of these teams you have a handful of really good club girls, the middle girls have quit after getting squeezed and the girls filling out the roster were recruited in gym class. The only one benefitting is the 7th and 8th graders padding their athletic resume but the program suffers.

Move to NJ, can't play H.S> lacrosse unless you are in the 9th grade. Avoids all of these issues.

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Let's talk about the varsity coach, who will reamin nameless and has been around for a LONG time, texting girls whether or not they made varsity. That's a little ridiculous!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?

You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Successful programs develop players. They never have to bring up little kids. It appears that in most cases like this, boys OR girls sports teams, students are pulled up for reasons unrelated to their play (nepotism, father coaches team, father coaches in district, parents pay coach, parent is a board member, etc..). It's pretty silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

I hear what your saying, but there are some very good younger players out there. I know its been stated in the past, but whats the difference between sports,music and genius students? No one should be pulled up then? The amazing young music student isn't taking the older music students spot? That conversation is probably going on in the high school music forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so.

Sounds like a bad lowlife daddy coach from our town.. complete Poison!! Although he smiles to everyones face like everyone counts . His inside agenda is to split up and seperate his goons from the rest of the community who doesnt participate because he feels his creation is superior.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?
[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so.

Are you dense ? I don't care if they have done it 1 or 5 times they have "an established record " of moving a kid up which gives them a history of doing so. Deservedly so because she became an all American is more an opinion than factual. Knowing the kid she absolutely deserved to be pulled up , knowing the way the all American selection process works tells me that moniker means very little (very political) .The fact remains that any public school that can claim to be defending state champs in girls lacrosse this season have a history of pulling up middle school kids to play varsity lacrosse.

A player moving from MS to Jv or Varsity usually occurs in a smaller district. It can be done to help fill out a need in a specific position etc. it can also be done to help give a player valuable experiences that they will not get playing Jr high teams. JV will play more games, usually have better coaching and more intensive training and competition. A players maturity and well being should be considered by the coaches and parents during this time to ensure it is what is best for all involved. Some towns have youth teams that average 10-12 kids per grade, when you lose kids along the way to music, other sports, social interests the need arises to add kids from another grade to support the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up....

Apples to oranges Private schools with the exception of Kellenberg do not have middle schools

really?...St. Marys, Saint Dominic don't have middle schools? ok, now start the bashing....

oh and LuHi?....sure there are few more....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

privates don't allow MS boys/girls to play up on HS level teams...seems silly to have a Designated Hitter-like rule where one group allows(publics) and another does not (privates/Catholic)..make it uniform and be done with it...small towns I guess could benefit but larger school districts prob could do just as well without allowing MS kids to play up....

Apples to oranges Private schools with the exception of Kellenberg do not have middle schools

Forget the MS at Kellenberg, they don't even pull up deserving sophomores!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so.

Are you dense ? I don't care if they have done it 1 or 5 times they have "an established record " of moving a kid up which gives them a history of doing so. Deservedly so because she became an all American is more an opinion than factual. Knowing the kid she absolutely deserved to be pulled up , knowing the way the all American selection process works tells me that moniker means very little (very political) .The fact remains that any public school that can claim to be defending state champs in girls lacrosse this season have a history of pulling up middle school kids to play varsity lacrosse.

You're kind of right, If you do something once you have a history, Doing that thing continuously establishes a policy. Over the last 9 years of L.I. and State champs you can see a pattern.Not being sure of the make up of every team involved, I'm pretty sure FDale, 'set, GC and NPT, do not make bringing up M.S. kids policy ( not that they don't do it, the kid needs to be special) I am not sure about SWR so maybe someone can tell us, I'm pretty sure at the time it wasn't policy

out of 9 years (2007-2015)
FDale made 8 Li champ winning 6 with 6 state titles
GC made 6 LI champ winning 6 with 6states
SWR made 5 LI champ winning 5 with 5 states
'set made 6 LI champ winning 1 with 1 state
NPT made 3 LI champs winning 1 with 1 state

This history tells me that schools that play MOSTLY upperclassmen win, schools that resort to pulling up M.S. kids don't fare as well

Are the people that make the most noise about this the parents who's kid gets bumped for a younger player and then they all cry foul? To the vocal posters, if it was your 8th grader getting pulled up would you tell the coach no she's too young?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

West Islip does not have a history of moving MS players to Varsity. In their history only one girl has been brought up to Varsity as an 8th grader and she turned out to be an All American as a Junior.

So what you are saying is your program has a history of moving a player from middle school to varsity but you do not want that to count. She is a very good player and deserved to be moved up so they did , end of story.

No, I think the poster is saying that 1 girl being pulled up over however many years does not qualify as "having a history" of doing so. She was the exception, and apparently deservedly so.

Absolutely the kid is a stud

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?

You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that.

No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game".

No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do.

You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above.

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list

You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

The girls lax world is a small one. You end up knowing most all of the top girls in an age group across all LI clubs rather quickly. Of all the girls I know being brought up from 7-8, they are mostly all deserving. There are also some deserving girls who will not be brought up because their districts just don't do that. Every year LI produces a small group of girls who are the household names of NCAA women's lacrosse. Know what most of them have in common? they were also brought up early. Will every girl brought up pan out? NO, Will girls not brought up never become the next Fortunato or Gilroy? NO to that as well. Be happy for the girls and move on, these girls will have a 5-6 year varsity career, if your [lacrosse] bent on hating, you have a long road ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list

You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players .

I also didn't mention CSH, Sayville, Wantaugh or North Shore for the same reason, their history is relatively short at this point but you didn't mention them why, is it because your knowledge of lacrosse stops at 110, I said I wasn't sure about SWR but I'm willing to bet the at the time they had there run the need for M.S. players was much less than it is today. The point of the post is to show how the traditionally strong programs have little need to bring up MS players because the programs are strong from youth through high school. GC, FDale, and 'set rarely, if ever bring up MS players, or even start freshman because they don't have to, and they all had, and still have excellent players that waited there turn and didn't cry about it. As far as Mt. S and ESM go lets see if they can consistently win over a number of years with MS girls being brought up, if they do I will be the first to stand up and say you were right

Why are you so [lacrosse] bent on having an 7th or 8 th grader play on varsity? What's the appeal?

Huntington finally got it right this year. Politics from last year seemed to have resonated with the school because they don't seem to be allowing a parent dictated program. Time will tell if they can keep the lunatic fringe parents out of decision making.

Huntington finally got it right this year and don't seem to be allowing a parent dictated program.

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by MKVELE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport has had numerous girls pulled up over the years. Fortunato and Gilroy are 2 of many.

It's funny that you bring up Northport, If you look at the list, with all the pull ups that you say they have they are one of the least successful programs on the list

You really are pathetic , someone lists a few of the most successful programs and that's what you have to say . So you know SWR has many players they have brought up over the years . Not on the list for some reason are 2 of the more successful programs the past few years ESM and Mt. Sinai both of which consistently bring up middle school players .

I also didn't mention CSH, Sayville, Wantaugh or North Shore for the same reason, their history is relatively short at this point but you didn't mention them why, is it because your knowledge of lacrosse stops at 110, I said I wasn't sure about SWR but I'm willing to bet the at the time they had there run the need for M.S. players was much less than it is today. The point of the post is to show how the traditionally strong programs have little need to bring up MS players because the programs are strong from youth through high school. GC, FDale, and 'set rarely, if ever bring up MS players, or even start freshman because they don't have to, and they all had, and still have excellent players that waited there turn and didn't cry about it. As far as Mt. S and ESM go lets see if they can consistently win over a number of years with MS girls being brought up, if they do I will be the first to stand up and say you were right

ESM decided that starting this year, no more middle school girls will be brought up. They realized the disaster from last year was not worth the trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?

You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that.

No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game".

No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do.

You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above.

None of the above, a coach though. And I laugh at jack offs such as yourself who this they can sum up coaching in a few lines. Like I said go read a Wooden book rather than copy and paste some list.

What disaster?? Winning States??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am curious has past history of towns bringing up 7 & 8 graders to Varsity ever won anything?

Yes , all three state championship teams from last year have a history of moving middle school players up to the varsity.

Good Coaches:

- know how to earn the respect of their players.
- know how to identify talent.
- know how to develop talent.
- know how to utilize talent.
- know how to encourage.
- know how to build confidence.
- know how to lead.
- know how to teach.
- know how to create and maintain team enthusiasm.
- know how to help kids develop character.
- know how to motivate.
- know how to build comradery.
- know how to create a positive environment.
- know how to get the most of of their players.
- know how to build a team.
- know how to do the right thing.
- know how to learn from mistakes.
- know how to make adjustments.
- know how to lose.
- know how to coach.
- know how to win.

A bad coach will not know how to do any of the above.

Poor coaching and leadership are difficult things for athletes to overcome. In most cases it takes a strong leader and a good coach to win a championship even when they have talented athletes.

Success (in HS sports) should not always be measured in wins and losses. A bad coach will create division and destroy the moral of a team. They may win games and maybe even win a championship but they will never be successful.

How is your coach?

You contradict yourself. In your list you say know how to win, then you go on to say a bad coach can't do any of these, then you say at the end of your post that a bad coach may even win a championship. Which is it? Just anither armchair quaterback (armchair coach in this case). I am sure you are an expert. Read some of Coach John Wooden's books then get back to us on how to be a good coach. It's much deeper than that.

No contradiction, was implying: know how to win and lose "gracefully". I was not speaking about "winning a game".

No armchair coaching here, and I was not writing a book. Just a quick 30 second rundown of some of the things a good HS coach knows how to do.

You come off as bitter about something. Or maybe you are a self conscious coach who thinks that I am writing about you. Maybe you are one of the coaches who does not know how to do any of the above.

None of the above, a coach though. And I laugh at jack offs such as yourself who this they can sum up coaching in a few lines. Like I said go read a Wooden book rather than copy and paste some list.

Wow, very angry bitter.

Nobody tried to sum up anything. Just a quick list of some of the things a good coach will know how to do. I would suggest that you go back to reading your books but the fact that you have difficulty grasping the gist of a simple post tells me that you have no chance of comprehending, retaining or applying any of the information contained in the books that you claim to have read.

Or you can be in the right place at the right time have a daughter who plays for CR on YJ and be a copy cat coach with no real knowledge or experience other then what you see them do during practices and not really comprehend anything on why it's done that way , But have your own opinion and run with it while people buy into what you sell.
Yea you know that A HOLE coach that took the bull by the horns because everyone else just sits around and complains so his head swelled up when he learned people are guliabe and felt he is far beyond knowledge then any coach on the island , you know the one that everyone hates but puts on that happy face around him because they have to put up with it or be singled out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or you can be in the right place at the right time have a daughter who plays for CR on YJ and be a copy cat coach with no real knowledge or experience other then what you see them do during practices and not really comprehend anything on why it's done that way , But have your own opinion and run with it while people buy into what you sell.
Yea you know that A HOLE coach that took the bull by the horns because everyone else just sits around and complains so his head swelled up when he learned people are guliabe and felt he is far beyond knowledge then any coach on the island , you know the one that everyone hates but puts on that happy face around him because they have to put up with it or be singled out.

Who and what are you talking about

What disaster?? Winning States??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

Typical, rather than address the situation and come up with a policy that is fair, the AD took the easy way out.

Maybe he is spending to much time fighting of discrimination accusations and suits from Female Phys Ed teachers (3 of them, FOIL it) to put work in on a thoughtful policy. This would of never happened if the Coach was a male coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

You sure have a chip on your shoulder. I never said the best kids shouldn't play. that's all subjective but let's not get into that now. A high school team is no different than a college team than a professional team. Decisions have to be made for the good of the organization (district) first and the team next. Just as no professional team should be run around one individual (ask the Knicks - that hasn't worked out so well for them, has it?), no high school team should be run solely around one girl or one select group of girls. And by the way, my "mediocre" kid is getting substantial athletic money (academic money too) from a top 40 school (No, not a top 20 school but that was by design as she wants to play not potentially watch and hope to play).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Don't worry, Chief, your kid's D1 full ride will still be there even if she plays varsity as a sophomore. It must be hard for her to play with mediocre players... poor thing.

Who says she's going to play at the top 40 school? Its all subjective

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

You sure have a chip on your shoulder. I never said the best kids shouldn't play. that's all subjective but let's not get into that now. A high school team is no different than a college team than a professional team. Decisions have to be made for the good of the organization (district) first and the team next. Just as no professional team should be run around one individual (ask the Knicks - that hasn't worked out so well for them, has it?), no high school team should be run solely around one girl or one select group of girls. And by the way, my "mediocre" kid is getting substantial athletic money (academic money too) from a top 40 school (No, not a top 20 school but that was by design as she wants to play not potentially watch and hope to play).

First off a high school team should be run considerably different from a college team ,and a pro team is a whole other story. Your by design statement is just ridiculous, how do you know the team will not be a top 10 team by the time your kid goes there, what makes you think your kid is guaranteed playing time at any school. That said at the high school level what is best for each kid as an individual has to be taken into account .If a kid is talented enough and it is in the best interest of that kid to play varsity then it should not be that kids problem that other kids ego or their parents ego may get hurt.

Sounds like someone is seething that dear daughter did not make the HS team. better get your pen and paper out and start writing your letters to the BOE and the AD. That will get her moved up in proper order. It worked last year, why not give it the old college try and push yourself on the team again this year.

Pulling up middle school kids did not help Huntington the past couple of years to win States or anything else. Maybe this year will be different because we have coaches who will know how to utilize ALL the talent on their bench, not just the same rotation of players.

Okay - you're right. I'm wrong. About everything. Your kid, my kid, your school, college, the presidential election and the state of the world in general. Feel better?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What disaster?? Winning States??

I guess the result wasn't worth the headache to the board and AD.

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone.

Ahh there it is the new me first lacrosse mentality. I hate that people like you are ruining our sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like someone is seething that dear daughter did not make the HS team. better get your pen and paper out and start writing your letters to the BOE and the AD. That will get her moved up in proper order. It worked last year, why not give it the old college try and push yourself on the team again this year.

You got it backwards. Last year when the Esm older kids lost playing time to the move UPS, it was the parents of the older kids who took to writing, complaining, throwing teammates, coaches, AD, board member and anyone else under the bus. Got very ugly on here last year. ESM has too many players and all the parents think their kid is great, especially the group that is chocking out middle school and JV right now looking to get to varsity. I do feel bad because I know some decent players that will never see the field and may end up leaving the sport. Its nice to have a strong youth program but when it has to narrow down for school it becomes cut throat and toxic.

Very well said. It's the same in our district as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone.

Ahh there it is the new me first lacrosse mentality. I hate that people like you are ruining our sport

Please explain how people like me are destroying the sport? Because I can't stand people whom blame others from their lack of success. According to your logic, if my kid has two nice lacrosse sticks she should give one to your kid because their stick is junk. Bernie 2016, free sh* t for people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

That is exactly why these players will be denied the opportunity that many have gotten in the past because its not about what best for the program or any individual kid but what will be the easy for the administration.

It NEVER should be about what's best for any individual kid (or select group of kids). It's should be about the district, the program and the team. In that order.

That's the exact attitude of all the parents who have a kid that is mediocre. Each kid should play at a level that is best for their development. With your logic they should not have AP classes etc because it wastes resources on only a certain select group. At some point you have to stop with the wait your turn and make decisions based on ability and let each kid be placed at a level that is best for their development.Enough with the politically correct "every kid should get their turn to play varsity" .

Agree!!!! The person who is saying for the "good of the district" has no idea what they are talking about. The district provided experiences to students to enrich them. If a kids is playing below their level is it enriching? What you really mean is for the good of the district means. The good of the loud mouths at the board meeting who think their kids failure to accomplish something whether it be pass an honors class, get into select chorus, make the exceptional gifted and talented programs (music or academics), is someone else fault because they are too good. Shut up and go to a Bernie Sanders rally. I'm not bitter I'm sick of the welfare attitude infesting everything and everyone.

Ahh there it is the new me first lacrosse mentality. I hate that people like you are ruining our sport

Please explain how people like me are destroying the sport? Because I can't stand people whom blame others from their lack of success. According to your logic, if my kid has two nice lacrosse sticks she should give one to your kid because their stick is junk. Bernie 2016, free sh* t for people.

Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports.

Should be about this years team first and foremost.... The collection of players you can get for this season... Then the rest... Starting with Succession planning for future years.... District prominence and tradition last

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be about this years team first and foremost.... The collection of players you can get for this season... Then the rest... Starting with Succession planning for future years.... District prominence and tradition last

Are there districts that actually have policies prohibiting pulling up MS kids?

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be about this years team first and foremost.... The collection of players you can get for this season... Then the rest... Starting with Succession planning for future years.... District prominence and tradition last

Are there districts that actually have policies prohibiting pulling up MS kids?

Yes, and soon all will likely follow suit. For two reasons:
1) if they're going to win, they will do so with or without 7th graders
2) to avoid the headaches created by doing so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You are insane. I agree with the other guy. I could only imagine standing next to you on the sidelines... frightening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You are insane. I agree with the other guy. I could only imagine standing next to you on the sidelines... frightening.

There is always going to be a pecking order but to base it strictly on grade is insane. Should be based on leadership qualities, respect, hard work, communication abilities etc. Just because some kid is older than another does not make them a leader. Just because some kid is older than another should not guarantee them a starting spot. Being a starter , being a captain , being a leader should be earned and not just handed out because you are a senior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You my friend are the worst of the worst, the me first, individual 7th grade verbal got to get mine attitude that have totally screwed with our sport and our sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You are insane. I agree with the other guy. I could only imagine standing next to you on the sidelines... frightening.

If a kid is better they play. End of story, stop complaining. MUst be fun sitting next to you complaining how your kids is not playing because a 7th or 8th grader who runs circles around your kid is starting over her. Freaking crybabies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

*****
---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

******
What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You are insane. I agree with the other guy. I could only imagine standing next to you on the sidelines... frightening.

If a kid is better they play. End of story, stop complaining. MUst be fun sitting next to you complaining how your kids is not playing because a 7th or 8th grader who runs circles around your kid is starting over her. Freaking crybabies.

NO crying, no whining, we cheer for the whole team and understand that our kids wont play in college like MOST kids that play HS lacrosse. People like you make it really hard for us to root for your kid but we know you don't care and that makes you a tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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---"Because some things are bigger than your kids name in newsday that none of us care about but you. Its a team, school community thing. If your kid is going to get $3,500 a year to play in college earn it on your club team. School teams are different than club teams. Seniors should have the leadership positions and there should be a pecking order. Your comments are exactly why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere in all of HS sports."---

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What a bitter, jealous, selfish person you are. You are right, "it's a team school community thing". On a team, the coach should play the best players. The coach should put the team in the best position possible to represent the community. The players who command the respect of their teammates through hard work, commitment, attitude, ability etc.. should have the leadership positions. The pecking order should be determined on the field and it should not have anything to do with what grade the player is in. By the way, the top players get a lot more than $3,500. The reason why lacrosse has the worst atmosphere is people like you. People who think that their kid is owed something. I would be willing to bet that you think that you deserve a pay raise every year even if you do not increase your productivity, improve your performance or become more effective at whatever it is that you do. The whole "Club" thing started because "School" sports took on an "everybody" gets a trophy mentality.
They first started by taking more kids on the team. Then they went to a 5th quarter for the kids that didn't get to play, then they went to "modified" every other quarter plus a 5th quarter so that everyone could play. That mentality is what has ruined school sports.

You are insane. I agree with the other guy. I could only imagine standing next to you on the sidelines... frightening.

If a kid is better they play. End of story, stop complaining. MUst be fun sitting next to you complaining how your kids is not playing because a 7th or 8th grader who runs circles around your kid is starting over her. Freaking crybabies.

NO crying, no whining, we cheer for the whole team and understand that our kids wont play in college like MOST kids that play HS lacrosse. People like you make it really hard for us to root for your kid but we know you don't care and that makes you a tool

Well said. Plus, you kid will be more socially adjusted since they have been around people their age. When I had a freshman playing on varsity - the mental and social changes were amazingly quick. She seems to have grown overnight - I'm not saying grown up or matured since it still takes a little time for proper socialization. That was a freshman with seniors - riding the bus with seniors - talking to seniors about things girls talk about. Then I see this thread and I see the people that are so against "Senior Leadership" because of age and I laugh. I laugh because I think of a 7th grader trying to give advice to a senior or junior about their grades or college recruiting or about boys. I'm seeing with my kids that things have not changed that much since I was their age - the leadership is not just making sure everyone sees the cutters or understands their assignments on the ride. There is leadership in life. I am usually surprised and yet understand why people seem to forget about life - when discussing lacrosse and where their kids are going with it. I guess that part has changed - I remember it as a game that I loved and enjoyed playing with my friends who became my lifelong friends.

Just curious, if you don't mind. What's schools are we specifically talking about? Huntington? ESM? SWR? Based on this thread,These three have documented problems with bringing up 8 the graders on varsity. Are there others?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious, if you don't mind. What's schools are we specifically talking about? Huntington? ESM? SWR? Based on this thread,These three have documented problems with bringing up 8 the graders on varsity. Are there others?

Think Sayville as well because there have been posts stating they are bringing up 7th graders.

Stop the non sense who will win

SHA put up little resistance to GC yesterday � scrimmage yes, but telling. SHA needs to get it together if they want to compete against St.A's and Kellenberg this year.

Herm Edwards on playing time. I think this applies to recent conversations here.

SHA will finish 2nd as they do every year. GC top 5 in the country

GC top five in the country, really? Lets try to win a county championship first.

signed
A Garden City resident

Ranked #2 in the Nike poll

They always compete against Kellenberg. Look at non league schedule
Farmingdale Northport Northshore Middle Country CSH. SHA parent, we will never dominate St. Anthony's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious, if you don't mind. What's schools are we specifically talking about? Huntington? ESM? SWR? Based on this thread,These three have documented problems with bringing up 8 the graders on varsity. Are there others?

Oh yeah there are definitely others?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Herm Edwards on playing time. I think this applies to recent conversations here.

Professional athletes and HS athletes... no relevance, but thanks for posting Herm. That dude is awesome!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ranked #2 in the Nike poll

Preseason

Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Herm Edwards on playing time. I think this applies to recent conversations here.

Professional athletes and HS athletes... no relevance, but thanks for posting Herm. That dude is awesome!

He is addressing youth sports, very relevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways)

I have no issue with anything he said and love his candor but if he was an AD in any LI district the parents would run him out of town with pitchforks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mt Sinai over Ward Melville yesterday 11 - 2.

WM is supposed to be stacked this year.

I didn't know the season started already. Great way to open the season. Congrats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't know the season started already. Great way to open the season. Congrats

It didn't. Scrimmage

Scrimmage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways)

Only parents of non starting juniors and seniors like yourself.

I have no issue with anything he said and love his candor but if he was an AD in any LI district the parents would run him out of town with pitchforks!

Scrimmage ok...Congrats on the scrimmage win

I always thought a tryout be it club or school should be a blind tryout. Now I am not naive to say people don't know who the players are, but the blind part still must apply... blind to who the players are and what grade they are in... if they can play, they can play. I also think a younger kid that consistently plays better than an older kid (be it marginally or otherwise) gets the playing time and their up side is much bigger and worth investing committing the limited time a HS coach has.

sucks yes but this just wait your turn mentality has got to go (along with my kid is committed or on a top club team... so they need to start as an 8th grader has got to go)... you need to earn your spot.

its called sportsmanship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways) [/quote

Only parents of non starting juniors and seniors like yourself.

Don't worry about me, my 6th grader will take your 8th graders spot in a few years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways) [/quote

Only parents of non starting juniors and seniors like yourself.

Don't worry about me, my 6th grader will take your 8th graders spot in a few years

I'm more worried that someone out there actually categorized people as "parents of non-starters". Are there really "parents of non-starters" and "parents of starters"?? Are there also "parents of captains" and "parents of non-captains"? What about "parents of super-stars" and "parents of stars"? Insane.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is supposed to be stacked this year.

WM has many above average players. Problem is coaches have to put girls on the field based on talent and skill level, not based on the fact they are upperclassman. Unless changed, they have no chance in winning any titles!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mt Sinai over Ward Melville yesterday 11 - 2.

Why are all the people in Mt Sinai such a**holes? Careful it's rubbing off on your little princesses...

Smithtown East is very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Don't forget the

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways) [/quote

Only parents of non starting juniors and seniors like yourself.

Don't worry about me, my 6th grader will take your 8th graders spot in a few years

I'm more worried that someone out there actually categorized people as "parents of non-starters". Are there really "parents of non-starters" and "parents of starters"?? Are there also "parents of captains" and "parents of non-captains"? What about "parents of super-stars" and "parents of stars"? Insane.

Don't forget the "parents of committed players" and "parents of non-committed players"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hysterical that you are comparing PROFESSIONAL sports to HS! But I think that's apropo to how you view your 8th grade daughter .

HE is talking about youth sports if you listened to the video. Even referencing his two daughters soccer. But you are too busy complaining that MS kids are who are better than your kid are playing over her.

Don't forget the

Listen to what he says Its about being a team and having a Role. Learn to accept your child's role if they want a bigger Role they have to work for it. ( Even if that role is a 8th or 9th grader playing over a Junior or Senior it goes both ways) [/quote

Only parents of non starting juniors and seniors like yourself.

Don't worry about me, my 6th grader will take your 8th graders spot in a few years

I'm more worried that someone out there actually categorized people as "parents of non-starters". Are there really "parents of non-starters" and "parents of starters"?? Are there also "parents of captains" and "parents of non-captains"? What about "parents of super-stars" and "parents of stars"? Insane.

Don't forget the "parents of committed players" and "parents of non-committed players"

Definitely parents of travel kids and non-travel kids - probably the first split that started it all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is supposed to be stacked this year.

WM has many above average players. Problem is coaches have to put girls on the field based on talent and skill level, not based on the fact they are upperclassman. Unless changed, they have no chance in winning any titles!

WM has a lot of young talent and some very solid Juniors and seniors as well. Unfortunately coaching and player management have been a problem for years. If they don't win it will not be from lack of talent.

Just like Honor students parents vs Regular students parents in our school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is supposed to be stacked this year.

WM has many above average players. Problem is coaches have to put girls on the field based on talent and skill level, not based on the fact they are upperclassman. Unless changed, they have no chance in winning any titles!

WM has a lot of young talent and some very solid Juniors and seniors as well. Unfortunately coaching and player management have been a problem for years. If they don't win it will not be from lack of talent.

That's about the post I would expect from the parents of the younger WM varsity parents. They think very highly of themselves, daughters, or whatever. Not exactly a pleasant group to be around. Nice to see you throwing upper class players and coaches under the bus. (BTW there's another parent classification you can add to your list).

I am a parent who played college lacrosse. I coached to teach all kids how to play a game I loved. I took pride in watching every kid learn to love the game. I also watched in silence as talented kids were turned off to the game by their parents pushing the D-1 commitment angle and burning the kids out. Both boys and girls. Then the Super star 16 year olds who end up playing in college having had their ego's so inflated having an issue playing a support role at major D-1's because all those kids were super stars. Word to wise, let you kid find their way, if they are good enough they will play where they were meant to play. Being great in 8th grade is OK. But be humble it is a long road.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a parent who played college lacrosse. I coached to teach all kids how to play a game I loved. I took pride in watching every kid learn to love the game. I also watched in silence as talented kids were turned off to the game by their parents pushing the D-1 commitment angle and burning the kids out. Both boys and girls. Then the Super star 16 year olds who end up playing in college having had their ego's so inflated having an issue playing a support role at major D-1's because all those kids were super stars. Word to wise, let you kid find their way, if they are good enough they will play where they were meant to play. Being great in 8th grade is OK. But be humble it is a long road.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mt Sinai over Ward Melville yesterday 11 - 2.

Why are all the people in Mt Sinai such a**hole? Careful it's rubbing off on your little princesses...

Not sure anyone kept score, the scoreboard was off. It was a scrimmage and judging by the quote you assume it was posted by a Mt. Sinai parent?

Here's some perspective...Over on LaxPower on the Georgia High School thread, there are people arguing over JV results. JV! Jeez

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a parent who played college lacrosse. I coached to teach all kids how to play a game I loved. I took pride in watching every kid learn to love the game. I also watched in silence as talented kids were turned off to the game by their parents pushing the D-1 commitment angle and burning the kids out. Both boys and girls. Then the Super star 16 year olds who end up playing in college having had their ego's so inflated having an issue playing a support role at major D-1's because all those kids were super stars. Word to wise, let you kid find their way, if they are good enough they will play where they were meant to play. Being great in 8th grade is OK. But be humble it is a long road.

Well said.

Too bad its lost on 75% or more of travel parents. They all want their kid to commit in 8th grade and be a Newsday stat leader team be damned (especially "all kids" which means average kids)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM is supposed to be stacked this year.

WM has many above average players. Problem is coaches have to put girls on the field based on talent and skill level, not based on the fact they are upperclassman. Unless changed, they have no chance in winning any titles!

WM has a lot of young talent and some very solid Juniors and seniors as well. Unfortunately coaching and player management have been a problem for years. If they don't win it will not be from lack of talent.

That's about the post I would expect from the parents of the younger WM varsity parents. They think very highly of themselves, daughters, or whatever. Not exactly a pleasant group to be around. Nice to see you throwing upper class players and coaches under the bus. (BTW there's another parent classification you can add to your list).

For the most part I have not seen any negative comments regarding WM girls program or coaches on this site. I have on occasion noticed someone trying to stir the pot and single out a particular group. I suspect that someone is you.

The players and parents at WM have been frustrated for many years. I would not assume that the parents of the younger players are the most frustrated. The longer you are on the team the worse it gets. There are talented girls at every age group if the coaches cant figure it out it is on them. If you think that playing time should be determined by seniority and not ability you are beyond help.

So go back to pointing fingers and trying to stir the pot because you obviously have a problem with someone. Continue to ignore the facts and the history of this program. No one threw upperclassmen under the bus. They put it on the coaches to figure it out .

No, i thought it was a WM parent bragging about the beating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mt Sinai over Ward Melville yesterday 11 - 2.

Why are all the people in Mt Sinai such a**hole? Careful it's rubbing off on your little princesses...

Not sure anyone kept score, the scoreboard was off. It was a scrimmage and judging by the quote you assume it was posted by a Mt. Sinai parent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm From Nassau. No love for Mount Sinai ?

Mt Sinai over Ward Melville yesterday 11 - 2.

Why are all the people in Mt Sinai such a**hole? Careful it's rubbing off on your little princesses...

Not sure anyone kept score, the scoreboard was off. It was a scrimmage and judging by the quote you assume it was posted by a Mt. Sinai parent?

I don't have to assume, those people are despicable white trash and their kids look to be following in their footsteps.

Sorry you have such a negative attitude towards a community and its children. I assume it is based on a perceived bad experience. Very few people were at the scrimmage at all. It was an early season scrimmage, certainly nothing to post about. I hope everyone has a safe and successful season.

GC moms and dads making sure their ladies will be seeing state action. Have been practicing and working together since May at their own expense. GC is a team in mid-season form at the SHA scrimmage. Don't count SHA out -- and watch them in a month against the Friars. Lots of talent and hungry. Should be a great season.

Congrats to Commack for putting on a great play day! Thought there were a lot of great teams. Smithtown East looked very strong! Any other opinions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Commack for putting on a great play day! Thought there were a lot of great teams. Smithtown East looked very strong! Any other opinions?

WM had a play day as well. Happaugue, Mattituck, SWR, Rocky Point, Hunter, Riverhead. Beautiful fields, very nice day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Commack for putting on a great play day! Thought there were a lot of great teams. Smithtown East looked very strong! Any other opinions?

WM had a play day as well. Happaugue, Mattituck, SWR, Rocky Point, Hunter, Riverhead. Beautiful fields, very nice day.

And Long Beach.

West Islip also

Harborfields

WM play day that included 8 teams..nice day only unfortunate incident was that personal items were stolen out of the WM girls lockers. What happened to honesty and integrity??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM play day that included 8 teams..nice day only unfortunate incident was that personal items were stolen out of the WM girls lockers. What happened to honesty and integrity??

You did say Long Beach was there too, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM play day that included 8 teams..nice day only unfortunate incident was that personal items were stolen out of the WM girls lockers. What happened to honesty and integrity??

You did say Long Beach was there too, right?

Wow, what sad commentary...you should be ashamed of your self.

Lock the lockers.

[quote=Anonymous]Lock the lockers.

Really?? Spoken from the mouth of someone with a set of morals. How about teaching your girls what is right and wrong!!!!

How did Half Hollow Hills look? Could not make it there..

Any good scrimmages today?

Huntington / Northport scrimmage. Northport took it.

WM also played everyone where Mt. Sinai only plays there starters and the rest of the team are water girls!

Why would anyone from other schools be in the locker rooms? There were bathrooms by the fields and the concession stand was open.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM also played everyone where Mt. Sinai only plays there starters and the rest of the team are water girls!

Yeah we know. The coaches have no idea what they are doing, they best players are the younger ones and if WM don't win states, it is not for lack of talent, its all the coaches fault. This is the message you have been preaching. Maybe Mt. Sinai is just better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]WM also played everyone where Mt. Sinai only plays there starters and the rest of the team are water girls!

This happens at lots of schools in girls lacrosse. Coaches don't sub and then girls are not forced to pass the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WM also played everyone where Mt. Sinai only plays there starters and the rest of the team are water girls!

Yeah we know. The coaches have no idea what they are doing, they best players are the younger ones and if WM don't win states, it is not for lack of talent, its all the coaches fault. This is the message you have been preaching. Maybe Mt. Sinai is just better.

No on here has preached "the best players are the younger ones". Go slither back under your rock and stop trying to stir the pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Half Hollow Hills look? Could not make it there..

We did ok. Goaltending was as expected. Offense played well with some young girls. Can't really judge the defense because I couldn't figure out what Conn was trying to do offensively. Looked like they were playing Men's lacrosse.

And the first team to get the poor sportsmanship award goes to ......Babylon . Nice job , in a clearly non competitive game that was over before it began you let one kid keep going to the cage , congrats to you on inflating her numbers early in the season . Gotta love the goals to assist ratio . Its going to be a long and ugly year as there are some bad teams out there and apparently a lot of coaches and ADs who are good with rubbing their face in it . Just seems unnecessary and like poor sportsmanship .Hopefully mommy and daddy are so proud that their little one could score so many while getting none of her teammates involved . Before you all write nice job picking on a kid , I don't blame her , I blame her coach and AD as they should know better .Curious to what others think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first team to get the poor sportsmanship award goes to ......Babylon . Nice job , in a clearly non competitive game that was over before it began you let one kid keep going to the cage , congrats to you on inflating her numbers early in the season . Gotta love the goals to assist ratio . Its going to be a long and ugly year as there are some bad teams out there and apparently a lot of coaches and ADs who are good with rubbing their face in it . Just seems unnecessary and like poor sportsmanship .Hopefully mommy and daddy are so proud that their little one could score so many while getting none of her teammates involved . Before you all write nice job picking on a kid , I don't blame her , I blame her coach and AD as they should know better .Curious to what others think?

I was curious what you were talking about so I checked the game's box score. Babylon won 16-9 and the highest number of goals was scored by a girl on the losing team. A few girls on Islip had the majority of the goals and yet you're picking on one girl. It sounds to me like there's more to this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first team to get the poor sportsmanship award goes to ......Babylon . Nice job , in a clearly non competitive game that was over before it began you let one kid keep going to the cage , congrats to you on inflating her numbers early in the season . Gotta love the goals to assist ratio . Its going to be a long and ugly year as there are some bad teams out there and apparently a lot of coaches and ADs who are good with rubbing their face in it . Just seems unnecessary and like poor sportsmanship .Hopefully mommy and daddy are so proud that their little one could score so many while getting none of her teammates involved . Before you all write nice job picking on a kid , I don't blame her , I blame her coach and AD as they should know better .Curious to what others think?

I was curious what you were talking about so I checked the game's box score. Babylon won 16-9 and the highest number of goals was scored by a girl on the losing team. A few girls on Islip had the majority of the goals and yet you're picking on one girl. It sounds to me like there's more to this

That's from Fridays game vs Islip, I think the poster is talking about the game yesterday vs Lindenhurst.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first team to get the poor sportsmanship award goes to ......Babylon . Nice job , in a clearly non competitive game that was over before it began you let one kid keep going to the cage , congrats to you on inflating her numbers early in the season . Gotta love the goals to assist ratio . Its going to be a long and ugly year as there are some bad teams out there and apparently a lot of coaches and ADs who are good with rubbing their face in it . Just seems unnecessary and like poor sportsmanship .Hopefully mommy and daddy are so proud that their little one could score so many while getting none of her teammates involved . Before you all write nice job picking on a kid , I don't blame her , I blame her coach and AD as they should know better .Curious to what others think?

I was curious what you were talking about so I checked the game's box score. Babylon won 16-9 and the highest number of goals was scored by a girl on the losing team. A few girls on Islip had the majority of the goals and yet you're picking on one girl. It sounds to me like there's more to this

the box score has the score at 15-5

I'm thinking he was talking about yesterdays game. Check newsday and come back to us with your thoughts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm thinking he was talking about yesterdays game. Check newsday and come back to us with your thoughts.

Why do you need to have thoughts on this at all? You should worry about yourself!!!

Let the point padding begin with some weak non conference games kicking off soon.

True, If everybody had your attitude there would be no need for this forum. Because 95% of these topics are nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the point padding begin with some weak non conference games kicking off soon.

I am looking at Newsday now - I don't see that much stat padding. A lot of the games were high scoring yesterday and some kids just had more goals than other but there were 20-17, 19-15, etc games which are close games and goals needed to be scored to win the games. Think its more of a function that the games are high scoring so the # of goals scored by the better players are higher. I don't view it as stat padding.

Another point - just because kids don't have assists listed doesn't mean they didn't try! If they feed it to a teammate and that girl is unable to finish it doesn't count as an assist for the kid who gave up the ball and this happens ALL the time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the first team to get the poor sportsmanship award goes to ......Babylon . Nice job , in a clearly non competitive game that was over before it began you let one kid keep going to the cage , congrats to you on inflating her numbers early in the season . Gotta love the goals to assist ratio . Its going to be a long and ugly year as there are some bad teams out there and apparently a lot of coaches and ADs who are good with rubbing their face in it . Just seems unnecessary and like poor sportsmanship .Hopefully mommy and daddy are so proud that their little one could score so many while getting none of her teammates involved . Before you all write nice job picking on a kid , I don't blame her , I blame her coach and AD as they should know better .Curious to what others think?

The great part of this is that one of the two girls who scored 4 goals is real young. So here we have the �padding the scores complainer. And wait for it....... One of the girls was a 8th grader..... so according to many on here she should be playing MS lacrosse and waiting her turn..So now those fools can jump aboard... Look now the idiots can complain about two things at once..... SMH

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

its on the coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

Six other kids scored and others had opportunities to score and couldn't finish. Thought this was varsity lax not youth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

Bet the kid didn't score when she was pulled off or when she played defense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

Six other kids scored and others had opportunities to score and couldn't finish. Thought this was varsity lax not youth.

There it is, the me first lacrosse parent. Nobody said don't beat the opponent but move the ball around to kids who might not get another shot all season. Its a team game and nobody cares if your kid gets recruited except you and her club coach

I agree. Ive been watching girls lacrosse for years, you would never see one person score 8 goals on manhasset or Garden city seems to be a suffolk thing. Lets pad our stats against an inferior opponent

I guess you are only referring to girls lax. In boys Garden City and it's supposed legendary coach "Doc" D beat up on a New Hyde Park team 34-0 and their super star attackmen Gibbons had at least 8 goals. Post script, Doc was gone the following year. Gibbons was shut out in the LI championship game by a suffolk Huntington team that was up 19-10 and could have scored more but the coach called off the dogs. Must be a suffolk thing. You must be new to lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. Ive been watching girls lacrosse for years, you would never see one person score 8 goals on manhasset or Garden city seems to be a suffolk thing. Lets pad our stats against an inferior opponent

I'm sure it's not just a Suffolk thing but my daughters have played lax in Suffolk for many years and I can agree with you that some of the most egregious examples are from Suffolk (lets see, the East Islip coaches daughter, the Islip sisters and friend, the WB girl(s), the Bellport girls last year etc..) Like a previous poster said, these teams will usually get shut down by a team that understands defense. IIRC, none of these won Section XI or states.

AS for the poor team that had a girl score 8 against them, they lost by more than 10 two days in a row to a school that is a 1/4 the size of them and a school that is 1/2 the size of them so they have their own issues. While I agree that 8 is a lot to put up, can't the team double that girl and see if that works?
NB also beat up a much smaller team by more than 10 and their top scorer had 7, what's up with that?

I agree with almost all of that, except the part about the WB girls. SA was getting 8 goals in a 13-11 win/loss...those other kids were getting 8 goals in a 19-2 win, big difference. Just my humble opinion and i'm not a suffolk mom

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree. Ive been watching girls lacrosse for years, you would never see one person score 8 goals on manhasset or Garden city seems to be a suffolk thing. Lets pad our stats against an inferior opponent

I'm sure it's not just a Suffolk thing but my daughters have played lax in Suffolk for many years and I can agree with you that some of the most egregious examples are from Suffolk (lets see, the East Islip coaches daughter, the Islip sisters and friend, the WB girl(s), the Bellport girls last year etc..) Like a previous poster said, these teams will usually get shut down by a team that understands defense. IIRC, none of these won Section XI or states.

AS for the poor team that had a girl score 8 against them, they lost by more than 10 two days in a row to a school that is a 1/4 the size of them and a school that is 1/2 the size of them so they have their own issues. While I agree that 8 is a lot to put up, can't the team double that girl and see if that works?
NB also beat up a much smaller team by more than 10 and their top scorer had 7, what's up with that?

The issue shouldn't be with the player, it should be with the coach. Take the scorers out and let the other girls get some time. These are non league games that are meaningless. When those big girls do get shut down by a better defense, the coach has no one else to rely on because the other girls have never touched the ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with almost all of that, except the part about the WB girls. SA was getting 8 goals in a 13-11 win/loss...those other kids were getting 8 goals in a 19-2 win, big difference. Just my humble opinion and i'm not a suffolk mom

Are you SS then? Talking up your WB TG gal? Take a look at the stats....in the three games WB put up over 20, SA scored 9-7-7 against powerhouses like EH and DP. Get your facts straight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with almost all of that, except the part about the WB girls. SA was getting 8 goals in a 13-11 win/loss...those other kids were getting 8 goals in a 19-2 win, big difference. Just my humble opinion and i'm not a suffolk mom

Are you SS then? Talking up your WB TG gal? Take a look at the stats....in the three games WB put up over 20, SA scored 9-7-7 against powerhouses like EH and DP. Get your facts straight

Again that falls on the coach not the player. Coach has to take her out and let yonunger girls play. Came back to bite them in the rear when Hauppauge finally figured out how to stop them. Coach expected the 8th and 9th graders to all of a sudden be goal scorers when they weren't allowed to shoot all season.

Except for the top programs most coaches wonder why their talent falls off a cliff? its part genetics, part practice and part that they never let the bottom half of the roster develop in games that are being won handily. So then girls quit which is bad for the sport. Now some club parent who had their kid recruited in 8th grade is going to tell me its good that kids quit but I disagree.

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

Team game, recruiting be damned!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree with almost all of that, except the part about the WB girls. SA was getting 8 goals in a 13-11 win/loss...those other kids were getting 8 goals in a 19-2 win, big difference. Just my humble opinion and i'm not a suffolk mom

Are you SS then? Talking up your WB TG gal? Take a look at the stats....in the three games WB put up over 20, SA scored 9-7-7 against powerhouses like EH and DP. Get your facts straight

Again that falls on the coach not the player. Coach has to take her out and let yonunger girls play. Came back to bite them in the rear when Hauppauge finally figured out how to stop them. Coach expected the 8th and 9th graders to all of a sudden be goal scorers when they weren't allowed to shoot all season.

I assume you are talking about W Bab last year. No one really needed to figure out how to stop them, it was obvious. They were a weak team despite having two great players. W Bab produces great individual players, not so good on producing team players, that is why their team is weak every year.

I was surprised Huntington lost to Farmingdale. Looks like it was a good game.

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was surprised Huntington lost to Farmingdale. Looks like it was a good game.

Are the girls enjoying the new Huntington coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for the top programs most coaches wonder why their talent falls off a cliff? its part genetics, part practice and part that they never let the bottom half of the roster develop in games that are being won handily. So then girls quit which is bad for the sport. Now some club parent who had their kid recruited in 8th grade is going to tell me its good that kids quit but I disagree.

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

Team game, recruiting be damned!

Lacrosse becomes less of a team game every year. Get the ball to XYZ and then everyone else can stop running because the ball is never coming back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

Brussels was attacked by terrorists, people died, many people were hurt!! In the grand scheme of things this really means NOTHING!! There are much bigger things people should be concerned about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was surprised Huntington lost to Farmingdale. Looks like it was a good game.

Are the girls enjoying the new Huntington coach?

Not saying this is the reason but I heard the Senior Goalie injured her knee in Basketball and out for the season. I feel sorry for her, I have seen her play many times she is a difference maker.

Our coach feels his XYZ is the winning lottery ticket and they can do no wrong , Run ball from one end of the field to another with zero transition , maybe move ball around once , but you better make sure you feed my XYZ because they are allowed to make mistakes !! ... I think many can relate .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for the top programs most coaches wonder why their talent falls off a cliff? its part genetics, part practice and part that they never let the bottom half of the roster develop in games that are being won handily. So then girls quit which is bad for the sport. Now some club parent who had their kid recruited in 8th grade is going to tell me its good that kids quit but I disagree.

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

Team game, recruiting be damned!

Lacrosse becomes less of a team game every year. Get the ball to XYZ and then everyone else can stop running because the ball is never coming back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was surprised Huntington lost to Farmingdale. Looks like it was a good game.

Are the girls enjoying the new Huntington coach?

Not saying this is the reason but I heard the Senior Goalie injured her knee in Basketball and out for the season. I feel sorry for her, I have seen her play many times she is a difference maker.

Are all of the 7th now 8th graders up on Varsity?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

Brussels was attacked by terrorists, people died, many people were hurt!! In the grand scheme of things this really means NOTHING!! There are much bigger things people should be concerned about.

And yet you are on posting about it . Yes there are much bigger things than girls lacrosse that people are concerned about but why come onto a site about girls lacrosse to post about it. Trying to deflect from the poor sportsmanship, poor coaching, poor team chemistry it all creates is useless when it obviously means everything to the ball hog kids parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

I get the point that at some point in the game the better players should get other involved, but being surprised about lack of assists is another. Do you know how difficult an assist is in girls lacrosse. It's not hockey, you don't get an assist by simply making the last pass before a goal. Any stats you read in newsday about girls having 6,7,or more assists in a game is just bad scoring or plain BS . I read a boxscore last season that showed a team having more assists than goals, I believe that's impossible. My point is we should not group girls as not being team players simply because their assist to goal ratio is very low.

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

An assist is one thing , but transition from one end of the field to another by solely one player is just poor coaching ! A player should be looking for their outlet and this should be reinforced. its not rocket science , not run the ball down field as y and z stage for their buddy system play. TEAM is what this game is about , TRUSTING their team without mixed messages from their parents is what separates good from bad . Hopefully the curious coach reading this will catch the hint !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

I get the point that at some point in the game the better players should get other involved, but being surprised about lack of assists is another. Do you know how difficult an assist is in girls lacrosse. It's not hockey, you don't get an assist by simply making the last pass before a goal. Any stats you read in newsday about girls having 6,7,or more assists in a game is just bad scoring or plain BS . I read a boxscore last season that showed a team having more assists than goals, I believe that's impossible. My point is we should not group girls as not being team players simply because their assist to goal ratio is very low.

Travel players pass to other travel players on their school teams and no one else. The team sport concept is broken and the travel parents are fine with it because as long as they get theirs that's all that matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

I get the point that at some point in the game the better players should get other involved, but being surprised about lack of assists is another. Do you know how difficult an assist is in girls lacrosse. It's not hockey, you don't get an assist by simply making the last pass before a goal. Any stats you read in newsday about girls having 6,7,or more assists in a game is just bad scoring or plain BS . I read a boxscore last season that showed a team having more assists than goals, I believe that's impossible. My point is we should not group girls as not being team players simply because their assist to goal ratio is very low.

I disagree. I see a lot more goals scored from assists and smart play than from one player trying to bully her way through the defense and having a turnover.

And regarding the team with more assists than goals, UGH. My daughter's college team (not lax) used to fudge the numbers like that. It was the coach's doing and he wanted one girl's stats to be nationally ranked, which they were, but she'd get credit for an assist two passes back from the goal! There's a lot of bull[lacrosse] that goes on in the stats, some of it mistakes and some delberate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

The former, without a doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Our coach feels his XYZ is the winning lottery ticket and they can do no wrong , Run ball from one end of the field to another with zero transition , maybe move ball around once , but you better make sure you feed my XYZ because they are allowed to make mistakes !! ... I think many can relate .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for the top programs most coaches wonder why their talent falls off a cliff? its part genetics, part practice and part that they never let the bottom half of the roster develop in games that are being won handily. So then girls quit which is bad for the sport. Now some club parent who had their kid recruited in 8th grade is going to tell me its good that kids quit but I disagree.

Which team is happier? One that has 50% of the team involved in the scoring or one that has 1 girl that goes to the cage 95% of the time?

Team game, recruiting be damned!

Lacrosse becomes less of a team game every year. Get the ball to XYZ and then everyone else can stop running because the ball is never coming back.

As long as officials constantly reward bad play by offensive players who charge into defenders and into double/triple and quadruple teams but get free position shots the game will never improve. Defenders cannot defend when every call in a game goes against them. The biggest/heaviest girls now charge into the defense and get rewarded.

Originally Posted by Powderfinger

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

I get the point that at some point in the game the better players should get other involved, but being surprised about lack of assists is another. Do you know how difficult an assist is in girls lacrosse. It's not hockey, you don't get an assist by simply making the last pass before a goal. Any stats you read in newsday about girls having 6,7,or more assists in a game is just bad scoring or plain BS . I read a boxscore last season that showed a team having more assists than goals, I believe that's impossible. My point is we should not group girls as not being team players simply because their assist to goal ratio is very low.

I disagree. I see a lot more goals scored from assists and smart play than from one player trying to bully her way through the defense and having a turnover.

And regarding the team with more assists than goals, UGH. My daughter's college team (not lax) used to fudge the numbers like that. It was the coach's doing and he wanted one girl's stats to be nationally ranked, which they were, but she'd get credit for an assist two passes back from the goal! There's a lot of bull[lacrosse] that goes on in the stats, some of it mistakes and some delberate.

I agree on real good teams but not on most school teams. My point was that is much more difficult to pick up an assist than most people realize. The pass has to directly lead to the goal and must be the reason the goal is scored ( no catch and dodge to shed a defender). So girls with low assist totals should not be all treated as selfish players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry but my kid was on the losing end of that Babylon game yesterday. Two things,1) the report of the scoring seems to be wrong as I believe we were down 10-1 at some point ,2) The game was non competitive , it was clear from the start we realistically had no chance so the kid putting up 8 goals in a beat down was in my opinion poor sportsmanship. Before the calls of stop crying and have a catch with your kid etc.. Seems to me when you are obviously the better team maybe spread the ball around more etc. Don't mind a team scoring as it gives us a chance to get the ball back but to have 1 kid continuously go to the goal seemed over the top and honestly would think that has to create some issues within the winning team.

Six other kids scored and others had opportunities to score and couldn't finish. Thought this was varsity lax not youth.

Jeez, what an a-hole answer. I hope you don't teach your children your form of sportsmanship.

Is everyone still playing in scrimmages and non- leagues at this point or have conference games already started?

Non league and scrimmages. League play starts next Monday March 28

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At some point if you are a really good player you have to realize the team you are playing is overmatched and also realize its embarrassing to keep scoring.Yes the coach gets most of the blame but so does the player .If it were my kid the 8 goals would be a problem but worse would be the big goose egg for assists.I know here comes the stop picking on little girls comments but if you are such a stud you can put up 8 goals against an inferior team then you should be strong enough to hear some criticism about it.

Brussels was attacked by terrorists, people died, many people were hurt!! In the grand scheme of things this really means NOTHING!! There are much bigger things people should be concerned about.

And yet you are on posting about it . Yes there are much bigger things than girls lacrosse that people are concerned about but why come onto a site about girls lacrosse to post about it. Trying to deflect from the poor sportsmanship, poor coaching, poor team chemistry it all creates is useless when it obviously means everything to the ball hog kids parents.

You know what you are right, this was a very poor example to use. I was only trying to say there are other things more important than HS lax. It's on the coach and the kid to fix this. I will definitely think twice before hitting submit next time.

Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

Glad your daughter made the list... ( as if Newsday actually knew who was who anyway) Most of the girls on it are Seniors, their trips to Md are over.. unless its on the college team bus

Always look for the player who has double digit assists, they are the selfless team players who look for the open stick. Would be great if they got more credit.

Newsday just picks who is committed to college except for a few rare exceptions like the underclassman who had big point seasons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

How are the kids on the list chosen? Does Newsday pick them or does the coach?

Can you list any districts who have this policy -- would like to see how they word it.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be about this years team first and foremost.... The collection of players you can get for this season... Then the rest... Starting with Succession planning for future years.... District prominence and tradition last

Are there districts that actually have policies prohibiting pulling up MS kids?

Yes, and soon all will likely follow suit. For two reasons:
1) if they're going to win, they will do so with or without 7th graders
2) to avoid the headaches created by doing so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

How are the kids on the list chosen? Does Newsday pick them or does the coach?

Coach puts up kids which can get murky. Most coaches don't know lacrosse but do know if a kid is committed to play in college and then the politics of parents and booster clubs are always involved. I am sure most of the list is right but there are always some head scratchers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

How are the kids on the list chosen? Does Newsday pick them or does the coach? [/

Coach puts up kids which can get murky. Most coaches don't know lacrosse but do know if a kid is committed to play in college and then the politics of parents and booster clubs are always involved. I am sure most of the list is right but there are always some head scratchers

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Some great players on the Newsday top 100 list. Lets hope their parents don't drink too much Kool Aid and push those kids to beat up on weak opponents by padding their stats in blow out games. Share the ball you'll have a better HS team and a much better time as a group. Regardless of what mom and dad tell you on the drive to Maryland each weekend, its a team game.

How are the kids on the list chosen? Does Newsday pick them or does the coach? [/

Coach puts up kids which can get murky. Most coaches don't know lacrosse but do know if a kid is committed to play in college and then the politics of parents and booster clubs are always involved. I am sure most of the list is right but there are always some head scratchers

Thank you!

I don't subscribe to Newsday, can someone post list? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you list any districts who have this policy -- would like to see how they word it.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be about this years team first and foremost.... The collection of players you can get for this season... Then the rest... Starting with Succession planning for future years.... District prominence and tradition last

Are there districts that actually have policies prohibiting pulling up MS kids?

Yes, and soon all will likely follow suit. For two reasons:
1) if they're going to win, they will do so with or without 7th graders
2) to avoid the headaches created by doing so.

"if they're going to win, they will do so with or without 7th graders"

Many close games are decided by a single goal. In a team effort the game can swing from a win or a loss simply by having a better player on the field to replace the low end of the roster player on the field.

So what you are saying is that every 7th grader that ever played at any district was never better than a girl they replaced on the field and never contributed to a win????

All that 7th grader has to do is be better than one player and they then contribute to the team win. I know many of the girls who were brought up in 7th grade over the years and in many districts. Maybe some wrongfully so but for most of them they easily belonged and contributed.

I get there are many jealous haters on this site, but get a grip.

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

Honestly not that big a deal ,top strings attached to side wall , side string attached every 1.5 inches ,is that it ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

What exactly are you talking about??

coaches do not pick kids and there are kids left out of that list
i can tell you that for sure also wardmeilville parents should relax cause you have too much to say

QUICK QUESTION TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A CLUE ABOUT LACROSSE
WHO ARE THE TOP TEAMS IN BOTH DIVISIONS IN SUFFOLK
AFTER SOME NON LEAGUES AND SCRIMMAGES WHAT DO YOU ALL SEE

So far 3 coaches I spoke to said they had no input and are happy a girl on their team was picked but Newsday never contacted them other than to let them know day/time picture was being taken.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

What exactly are you talking about??

There are new rules about the stringing of girls sticks. Strings must be looped through the side walls, not exceeding a gap of 1 1/2 inches between loops. Most girls sticks are illegal because they have never been strung this way before. Most of the stock in lacrosse stores has to go back because they are being sent to stores illegally strung. This new rule applies to high school girls. I would suggest having your daughter ask her coach or bring it to a lacrosse store and have it checked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

What exactly are you talking about??

According to US Lacrosse, new rule section 8 says each attachment to the sidewall shall be no more than 1.5 inches from its adjacent attachment when measured in a straight line from hole to hole.

Most girls sticks are not strung like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So far 3 coaches I spoke to said they had no input and are happy a girl on their team was picked but Newsday never contacted them other than to let them know day/time picture was being taken.

I spoke to our varsity coach and the way it works is Newsday creates the list and a couple of weeks ago they called and asked for info on the kids selected. Coaches had zero input to the list being made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So far 3 coaches I spoke to said they had no input and are happy a girl on their team was picked but Newsday never contacted them other than to let them know day/time picture was being taken.

So who writes the little blurb about them, Newsday??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So far 3 coaches I spoke to said they had no input and are happy a girl on their team was picked but Newsday never contacted them other than to let them know day/time picture was being taken.

It's the same for newsday, msg varsity, espn and inside lax - none of them are scouring the country scouting anybody, they all have a handful of people who feed them information on teams and players, that's how it works

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is anyone else flabbergasted by the new rule changes for sticks? How is it possible that they change the rules on sticks and make almost every girl stick out there illegal? My daughters team was told that the referees will be checking sticks very closely now that league games are about to start.

What exactly are you talking about??

According to US Lacrosse, new rule section 8 says each attachment to the sidewall shall be no more than 1.5 inches from its adjacent attachment when measured in a straight line from hole to hole.

Most girls sticks are not strung like that.

This new rule is such a joke. The refs checked my daughters team, apparently had mostly illegal heads. They played anyway. There will be many cancelled games this year if they try to enforce this. This creates a huge problem for all the manufactures as most of what is being sold in stores are illegal. If girls rules and the governing body were not a big enough joke, enter this latest debacle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So far 3 coaches I spoke to said they had no input and are happy a girl on their team was picked but Newsday never contacted them other than to let them know day/time picture was being taken.

It's the same for newsday, msg varsity, espn and inside lax - none of them are scouring the country scouting anybody, they all have a handful of people who feed them information on teams and players, that's how it works

The girl picked from our district is probably third best on the team.

A pair or club director have big ties to Newsday and I am sure have input on list.

A Newsday reporter sitting in a cube in Melville has no clue who the best players are except for who pads stats during the season, who is committed to what college and what info is spoon fed to them.

Lots of exceptional girls on the list but I think we can all agree that politics are involved in every team and all star list

I think the girl from your district is right where she should be

The new stick rule just further illustrates how inept US lax is. They are a joke of a governing body

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A pair or club director have big ties to Newsday and I am sure have input on list.

A Newsday reporter sitting in a cube in Melville has no clue who the best players are except for who pads stats during the season, who is committed to what college and what info is spoon fed to them.

Lots of exceptional girls on the list but I think we can all agree that politics are involved in every team and all star list

My kid is on the list and yes politics are involved in every list, every all-star team etc. Put it down in stone each coach involved in the All American selections at the end of year will have at least 1 kid from their team and in some cases two. Kinda gross.

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

I agree completely. There are some teams in lower Nassau divisions that should win their games by 2 touchdowns all season, will have all the goal scoring leaders and then will get smoked in the playoffs. Man up and ask to play in the power conference.

yes the divisions after 1 are screwed up, but there are no teams that can compete in the top division that are not in the top div.

Division 2 should be plainedge, oyster bay, southside, Port washington, Lynbrook, seaford and carle pl

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yes the divisions after 1 are screwed up, but there are no teams that can compete in the top division that are not in the top div.

Division 2 should be plainedge, oyster bay, southside, Port washington, Lynbrook, seaford and carle pl

Long Beach and North Shore have upped their game the last few years and pulled away from Plainedge. The three used to battle hard a few years ago. The power division is stacked with good teams not sure who else should be in or out. Scores will be lopsided once you get to the lower divisions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Suffolk ranks or seeds the teams and essentially if you are in the top ten you play all the top 10 teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Two top Nassau teams have already been beat by Suffolk, Pequa and GC. Both by the Smithtowns

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Suffolk ranks or seeds the teams and essentially if you are in the top ten you play all the top 10 teams

Suffolk runs their leagues similar to the premier soccer league. Depending on how you did the previous year will determine who you play this season. Finish in the bottom 10 and you play the rest of the bottom 10.

This a girls forum. But thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Two top Nassau teams have already been beat by Suffolk, Pequa and GC. Both by the Smithtowns

Pequa girls team not a top team by any definition

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can Newsday put teams in the top Ten who play nobody all year and take a beating in the playoffs. If the team is a top 10 then play the best in Nassau . Suffolk does not have a power conference YET!

Two top Nassau teams have already been beat by Suffolk, Pequa and GC. Both by the Smithtowns

Girls??

Its very early in Nassau but the scoring leaders are all from the bottom division teams who still cant figure out that you need more than a couple of girls to be successful. Top teams run multiple lines, bottom programs run everything through a few girls and that's why their programs will always struggle. Need to develop and include more people in games.

That's how it is in Huntington as well. It's a 3 man game so far. Need to work the ball, work the passes create your opportunities not react from them.

Nobody runs multiple lines in girls high school lax what games you been watching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody runs multiple lines in girls high school lax what games you been watching?

BS Wantagh and GC are deep, not sure about Manhasset or Cold Spring yet those teams are always at the top in Nassau

teams may be deep but don't play more then 15/16 girls in competitive games, not really running multiple lines

no the bottom programs will struggle because they don't have many lacrosse players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

teams may be deep but don't play more then 15/16 girls in competitive games, not really running multiple lines

Can we at least agree on that they don't run 95% of the offense through 1 or 2 girls?

I think the top HS girls programs are successful because the can field 12 strong players at all positions and still have a few strong players come in off the bench - that's where you see the 15/16 girls even on those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

teams may be deep but don't play more then 15/16 girls in competitive games, not really running multiple lines

Can we at least agree on that they don't run 95% of the offense through 1 or 2 girls?

Then you have not been watching , Manhassett has been running their offense thru 1-2 girls for years , don't kid yourself. Look at the 3 state champ teams from last year, they all rode their horses and barely spread the ball out, West Islip not as much as the other two

Congrats to a few of the teams today such as Smithtown West and Middle country as the scores may have been lopsided but they obviously spread the ball out and pulled back a little in the second half. They probably could have had a few kids pad their stats but they did not so Kudos to them.

West islip spread the scoring around as well. Nice to see at least 6 players scoring goals

Looking at 2016 statistical leaders in Suffolk D2 it sure seems that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

teams may be deep but don't play more then 15/16 girls in competitive games, not really running multiple lines

Can we at least agree on that they don't run 95% of the offense through 1 or 2 girls?

look at some of the box scores from yesterday. One game 29 goals scored zero assists! That had to be ugly!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

look at some of the box scores from yesterday. One game 29 goals scored zero assists! That had to be ugly!

Dad said I have got to get mine.

All of those people who were complaining about the 7th graders have been quiet. I'm guessing that means that they're either not playing or playing and contributing. Which is it?

I dont think most score keepers know how to define an assist, Im not saying this particular game had assists. I know for my daughters team assists are missed all the time.

From US LAcrosse

3. ASSIST: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for the shot, if any.

Also saw box's core where 16 goals were scored with 14 assists being credited. Highly doubtful. The scoring of an assist is very subjective as defined by US Lacrosse. Example player A finds cutter B who then roll dodges to move defender before scoring.does player A receive an assist ? Answer no. Should she ? Absolutely. Point is just because an assist wasn't credited doesn't mean it wasn't done as a team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

look at some of the box scores from yesterday. One game 29 goals scored zero assists! That had to be ugly!

Dad said I have got to get mine.

You can't always go by Newsday stats for assists. The winning coach logs the scores, some are too lazy to list the assists. My daughters team lost the first game, the winning team listed all their assists, and none for our losing team, we had quite a few direct assists. The team manager will have the correct data.

If you look at assist and goals on these as well you will see its the same girls dishing it to each other only! which accumulates the final score of a game . clicky to say the least by the looks of stats . Is it poor coaching ? , or just girls doing what they want and not respecting the rest of the team and the coach ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at 2016 statistical leaders in Suffolk D2 it sure seems that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

teams may be deep but don't play more then 15/16 girls in competitive games, not really running multiple lines

Can we at least agree on that they don't run 95% of the offense through 1 or 2 girls?

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

The fact that you have to make things up about posters that criticize obvious unsportsmanlike stat padding tells me you are one of the ones encouraging your ball hog to keep it up. Who is being critical of the whole team when in those situations the team is not involved as its usually 1 player being the ball hog.Same can be said about the community, stop being dramatic and tell your kid to pass the ball.

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

Th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Let's be honest... girl's lax is a terrible sport; particularly when they hit recruitment/varsity age. Because refs refuse to call offensive penalties, girls will not even look to pass and go right to the goal (I've seen girls do it with their eyes closed!). Any contact at all results in a free shot 99.999% of the time. There is minimal team work and this distortion of the game is glorified by travel clubs and accepted on varsity. It has become, far and away, the most selfish sport I've had the displeasure of watching. When my eldest daughter went through 7 years ago, they passed, worked the ball, moved without the ball... all the things that make team sports great. Now, with the recruitment emphasis moving from HS teams to club teams, it's all about the commits. The more girls the club team have committed, the better they look, the more money they make. How does a girl get noticed now? Put up gaudy numbers. It's really a shame. And, unfortunately, unless they start calling offensive charges or putting them in pads, this is only going to get worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

Th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Let's be honest... girl's lax is a terrible sport; particularly when they hit recruitment/varsity age. Because refs refuse to call offensive penalties, girls will not even look to pass and go right to the goal (I've seen girls do it with their eyes closed!). Any contact at all results in a free shot 99.999% of the time. There is minimal team work and this distortion of the game is glorified by travel clubs and accepted on varsity. It has become, far and away, the most selfish sport I've had the displeasure of watching. When my eldest daughter went through 7 years ago, they passed, worked the ball, moved without the ball... all the things that make team sports great. Now, with the recruitment emphasis moving from HS teams to club teams, it's all about the commits. The more girls the club team have committed, the better they look, the more money they make. How does a girl get noticed now? Put up gaudy numbers. It's really a shame. And, unfortunately, unless they start calling offensive charges or putting them in pads, this is only going to get worse.

College coaches know what they're looking at. The last thing they are interested in is the kid who is a one dimensional player. They typically go to recruiting events with an idea of the players they want to see. That list is formulated by the network they rely on to alert them to talent. That network is everyone from club coaches, HS coaches, other coaches who they might not be competing with for players, former players, etc..
They will watch their list for everything from sideline demeanor to off ball movement, stick skills, leadership,....scoring is just one thing. And by the way if a pass should have been made but wasn't just so the ball carrier could score....big no-no.
And Mom and Dad, rest assured they will find out who the parents are of their recruiting targets, and will watch your behavior too. More than one college coach has told me the last thing they want to recruit are problem parents!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

The game is very physical at the college level, coaches like players who arent araid of contact and are willing to initiate it on either end of the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Let's be honest... girl's lax is a terrible sport; particularly when they hit recruitment/varsity age. Because refs refuse to call offensive penalties, girls will not even look to pass and go right to the goal (I've seen girls do it with their eyes closed!). Any contact at all results in a free shot 99.999% of the time. There is minimal team work and this distortion of the game is glorified by travel clubs and accepted on varsity. It has become, far and away, the most selfish sport I've had the displeasure of watching. When my eldest daughter went through 7 years ago, they passed, worked the ball, moved without the ball... all the things that make team sports great. Now, with the recruitment emphasis moving from HS teams to club teams, it's all about the commits. The more girls the club team have committed, the better they look, the more money they make. How does a girl get noticed now? Put up gaudy numbers. It's really a shame. And, unfortunately, unless they start calling offensive charges or putting them in pads, this is only going to get worse.

College coaches know what they're looking at. The last thing they are interested in is the kid who is a one dimensional player. They typically go to recruiting events with an idea of the players they want to see. That list is formulated by the network they rely on to alert them to talent. That network is everyone from club coaches, HS coaches, other coaches who they might not be competing with for players, former players, etc..
They will watch their list for everything from sideline demeanor to off ball movement, stick skills, leadership,....scoring is just one thing. And by the way if a pass should have been made but wasn't just so the ball carrier could score....big no-no.
And Mom and Dad, rest assured they will find out who the parents are of their recruiting targets, and will watch your behavior too. More than one college coach has told me the last thing they want to recruit are problem parents!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

Th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Let's be honest... girl's lax is a terrible sport; particularly when they hit recruitment/varsity age. Because refs refuse to call offensive penalties, girls will not even look to pass and go right to the goal (I've seen girls do it with their eyes closed!). Any contact at all results in a free shot 99.999% of the time. There is minimal team work and this distortion of the game is glorified by travel clubs and accepted on varsity. It has become, far and away, the most selfish sport I've had the displeasure of watching. When my eldest daughter went through 7 years ago, they passed, worked the ball, moved without the ball... all the things that make team sports great. Now, with the recruitment emphasis moving from HS teams to club teams, it's all about the commits. The more girls the club team have committed, the better they look, the more money they make. How does a girl get noticed now? Put up gaudy numbers. It's really a shame. And, unfortunately, unless they start calling offensive charges or putting them in pads, this is only going to get worse.

College coaches know what they're looking at. The last thing they are interested in is the kid who is a one dimensional player. They typically go to recruiting events with an idea of the players they want to see. That list is formulated by the network they rely on to alert them to talent. That network is everyone from club coaches, HS coaches, other coaches who they might not be competing with for players, former players, etc..
They will watch their list for everything from sideline demeanor to off ball movement, stick skills, leadership,....scoring is just one thing. And by the way if a pass should have been made but wasn't just so the ball carrier could score....big no-no.
And Mom and Dad, rest assured they will find out who the parents are of their recruiting targets, and will watch your behavior too. More than one college coach has told me the last thing they want to recruit are problem parents!!!

Just to piggy back, one of the best players in our area (and according to USA today and others one of the best in the Country) didn't lead the County on goal or assists (or even her team for that matter) last year (she's a senior this year). Yet she was a field general offensively, who also cause chaos on the defensive side (especially in the ride).

Manhasset beat Oceanside by a score of 17-8. 13 Manhasset girls had points in that game. That's sharing the ball and getting players off the bench when clearly the opponent was NO match for them. All three goalies played. Cudo's to Manhasset, the players and the coaches. They get it.

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually the point is if you win games by to much utilizing more then the 2-3 girls who feed only each other on the field , you can say that you have a phenomenal team. When the coach doesn't follow that type of criteria , people see right through it and as an opossing coach know how to handle the situation when need be.
A good coach can defeat a team like this by the obvious !

Th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if you lose your team/coach/community stink. If you win by too much as described by the holy one on BOTC tour team/coach/community are bad winners!!!! So you must win your games but only by some arbitrary margin or the holy one on here criticizes your team/coach/players/parents/community. Geez....seems a little hyper critical if you ask me. Are you so over managed at your place of business.

Let's be honest... girl's lax is a terrible sport; particularly when they hit recruitment/varsity age. Because refs refuse to call offensive penalties, girls will not even look to pass and go right to the goal (I've seen girls do it with their eyes closed!). Any contact at all results in a free shot 99.999% of the time. There is minimal team work and this distortion of the game is glorified by travel clubs and accepted on varsity. It has become, far and away, the most selfish sport I've had the displeasure of watching. When my eldest daughter went through 7 years ago, they passed, worked the ball, moved without the ball... all the things that make team sports great. Now, with the recruitment emphasis moving from HS teams to club teams, it's all about the commits. The more girls the club team have committed, the better they look, the more money they make. How does a girl get noticed now? Put up gaudy numbers. It's really a shame. And, unfortunately, unless they start calling offensive charges or putting them in pads, this is only going to get worse.

So true!!!...said it before, but just watch the parents of players on sidelines (the Toxic sidelines) when their daughter is not in on the scoring...they only cheer for little Susie when she it is their daughter and when she scores...has become the most selfish, self absorbed game out there...really believe that parents would rather their little princess score a bunch and team lose...

Huntington got their clocks cleaned by Rocky Point!

Wow a true Rocky Pointer you can't even wait to walk off the field without boisting ! Your colors stand out loud and clear. Just like that annoying guy you have on sideline coaching .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington got their clocks cleaned by Rocky Point!

Score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington got their clocks cleaned by Rocky Point!

Score?

A lot..... to a little. What happened? 18-9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

Question for all those complaining about goals , assists, stat padding. Maryland vs Northwestern tonight Maryland is up 15-4
about 5 mins left Taylor Cummings scores her fifth goal a short time later she nearly has her sixth how do you classify this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

It does not happen in my town. If you don't share the ball you don't see the field. It's on the coach plain and simple. If the culture doesn't allow it it doesn't happen.

Huntington was very weak on attack while rp was fluid on ball movement and shots. Not the same team dynamic as last years team on Huntington.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington was very weak on attack while rp was fluid on ball movement and shots. Not the same team dynamic as last years team on Huntington.

Huntington wasn't very good last year either.

Annoying guy on sideline coaching ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow a true Rocky Pointer you can't even wait to walk off the field without boisting ! Your colors stand out loud and clear. Just like that annoying guy you have on sideline coaching .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

Question for all those complaining about goals , assists, stat padding. Maryland vs Northwestern tonight Maryland is up 15-4
about 5 mins left Taylor Cummings scores her fifth goal a short time later she nearly has her sixth how do you classify this.

I would classify it by saying that most of the people on here do not understand the game. Most of the people who carry on about the ball hogs are in fact the selfish ones. They want the ball passed to their daughter so she can score. These are the parents who only value goal scoring. That is why they get so upset when one girl scores 5 or 6 goals and their daughter scores none. These are the parents who blame the "ball hog" when their daughter is not being recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

Question for all those complaining about goals , assists, stat padding. Maryland vs Northwestern tonight Maryland is up 15-4
about 5 mins left Taylor Cummings scores her fifth goal a short time later she nearly has her sixth how do you classify this.

Yes compare two top 5 programs vs High School B,C,D,E divisions. Sounds about right

That's just a stupid question. You can't compare a top tier D1 lacrosse match up between MD and NW to a lopsided High school game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They get it plain and simply because they have the players !!
Very few High School teams have more than a few girls that can really play. Teams like Manhasset, GC, ESM, Wantagh, Mt Sinai and others have 20 girls or more that can truly play. That's the only reason they may have balanced scoring. The true test will be when and if they play each is the scoring as balanced or the playing time for as equal.

Lets see when some teams that don't have 20 players win by 20 and one girl has 12 goals. There is no excuse in those type of games not to play everyone. If these teams shared the ball more would stick with the sport

Again this doesn't fall on the players shoulders, it's the coaches fault. You're asking a teenage girl to make decisions that are morally right when the adult coaching the team can't make the right decision. Kids will continue to play the way they always play when they are on the field. Take them off and let the others have their shot. Coaches have to be responsible for the stat padding not the players.

Kids wont go against their parents and the go to goal every time mentality. And whoever said earlier that some would rather lose and get their points they are 100% correct and that's a freakin shame and what's wrong these days

Question for all those complaining about goals , assists, stat padding. Maryland vs Northwestern tonight Maryland is up 15-4
about 5 mins left Taylor Cummings scores her fifth goal a short time later she nearly has her sixth how do you classify this.

I would classify it by saying that most of the people on here do not understand the game. Most of the people who carry on about the ball hogs are in fact the selfish ones. They want the ball passed to their daughter so she can score. These are the parents who only value goal scoring. That is why they get so upset when one girl scores 5 or 6 goals and their daughter scores none. These are the parents who blame the "ball hog" when their daughter is not being recruited.

Agree with this wholeheartedly. Colleges generally recruit the best athletes who typically can do many things for a team - between the 30s, ground balls, defense, draw controls, etc. not just goal scoring.

Why does everything come back to recruiting? That's why the game is being ruined. I don't hear this at volleyball where 1 girl will play in college or at soccer where maybe 2 or 3 will play in college. You nuts that have hijacked this sport make every decision based on recruitment and that just sucks for everyone else that shares a sideline or team with you.

Pass the ball because your teammate is open and that is the way the game is supposed to be played

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

People who understand the game can see past most ball hogs. We have a girl on our varsity team (no shes not my daughter) who just does all the work on the field, ground balls, face off controls, assists and great defense. While shes not scoring 4 or 5 goals a game she is by far the best player on the field. Just because you put your head down and go to goal every time and score 5 or 6 goals while taking 15 shots does not make you a superstar. Anybody who understands the sport can see that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

Lacrosse and Basketball are similar. Either teams spread it around and there is a lot of scoring. Or teams ride their 1 or 2 horses (ala LeBron James). The games are virtually similar, depending on the talent make-up. So you all should stop complaining.

You are correct. This is why I like watching Field Hockey a lot more than Lax

That's why getting into the Books and studying will always be far more superior then LAX or Field Hockey...Like it or not lax mom and dad , that is the reality... sure life lessons and commitment comes with playing a sport BUT There's no pot of gold people when college is over! Wasted time and money and friendships lost through the years over a game that your child played at one time.. End result Spend that money on tutors and get more money for college!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are correct. This is why I like watching Field Hockey a lot more than Lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are correct. This is why I like watching Field Hockey a lot more than Lax

I would rather watch C-span than field hockey. Sport is unwatchable

Some very interesting results thus far!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does everything come back to recruiting? That's why the game is being ruined. I don't hear this at volleyball where 1 girl will play in college or at soccer where maybe 2 or 3 will play in college. You nuts that have hijacked this sport make every decision based on recruitment and that just sucks for everyone else that shares a sideline or team with you.

Pass the ball because your teammate is open and that is the way the game is supposed to be played

If you were in a hot bed of the other sports you would. lax is a hot sport hete so you hear it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's just a stupid question. You can't compare a top tier D1 lacrosse match up between MD and NW to a lopsided High school game.

If MD wants to rub it in for some reason it's there prerogative at the D1 level. Most college coaches let up after a while, MD could have scored 35 against Hofstra if they wanted to, but they didn't. Cleary was sending Amonte a message

Especially college coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

That girls happens to be a great two way player. That's why she was an all American. Next year when the other scorers are gone, she will be the go to girl. She will need to score a lot to keep west islip in games. Everyone will be bitching why she shoots to much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

That girls happens to be a great two way player. That's why she was an all American. Next year when the other scorers are gone, she will be the go to girl. She will need to score a lot to keep west islip in games. Everyone will be bitching why she shoots to much.

She graduates this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

That girls happens to be a great two way player. That's why she was an all American. Next year when the other scorers are gone, she will be the go to girl. She will need to score a lot to keep west islip in games. Everyone will be bitching why she shoots to much.

She graduates this year.

You're referring to the girl going to Syracuse. I'm referring to the girl going to Loyola that's a junior this year.

I've checked west islips box scores so far for this season. They seem to be a team that spreads the ball around. Even in a 17 point game the heavy hitters only scoring 3 apiece. No hogs here. Even giving the freshman the ball. Only 2 games in, so time will tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

That girls happens to be a great two way player. That's why she was an all American. Next year when the other scorers are gone, she will be the go to girl. She will need to score a lot to keep west islip in games. Everyone will be bitching why she shoots to much.

She graduates this year.

You're referring to the girl going to Syracuse. I'm referring to the girl going to Loyola that's a junior this year.

Lets stay with this years team and worry about next year in July. As far as the kid you so graciously exposed she has 4 goals and 5 assists. We will gladly put the team on her back in 2017.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've checked west islips box scores so far for this season. They seem to be a team that spreads the ball around. Even in a 17 point game the heavy hitters only scoring 3 apiece. No hogs here. Even giving the freshman the ball. Only 2 games in, so time will tell

Thanks mom for the update. Nobody cares. Must be your happy dance since your team won. Lets see your happy dance when they lose

Stop with the All American stuff , congrats to her and I am sure we'll deserved but there is no more political award in sports than the girls All American awards . Suffolk has the same few coaches each year who select the players and shocking each year their teams are over represented .

Not a wi parent guy. Just joking a discussion about teams with ball hogs. Relax

They don't give them out in Nassau either unless you're on a top team in the top division. Girls can bust their [lacrosse] in a lower division which is decided on by school size and never get a nod. It's a shame, something needs to change with the politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be the girls game forever...when selfishness is rewarded, that is the outcome--obnoxious, self-centered kids and narcissistic parents who could care less about the game itself....such a horrible thing to have happened...

Because averaging 2 goals again doesn't get you All American status and that is what the nuts want after paying in to the club system since Kindergarten

A Junior from West Islip is an All American and she had 45 G & 38 A last year. I believe they played 22 games so that's a 2 goal a game average.

That girls happens to be a great two way player. That's why she was an all American. Next year when the other scorers are gone, she will be the go to girl. She will need to score a lot to keep west islip in games. Everyone will be bitching why she shoots to much.

She graduates this year.

You're referring to the girl going to Syracuse. I'm referring to the girl going to Loyola that's a junior this year.

Now I'm confused because you can only have 1 best player on the field and WI only had 1 AA .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the All American stuff , congrats to her and I am sure we'll deserved but there is no more political award in sports than the girls All American awards . Suffolk has the same few coaches each year who select the players and shocking each year their teams are over represented .

Funny thing is that political award from last year has a ton of Suffolk girls starting and playing great as freshmen at their colleges.

MIDDLE COUNTRY GIRLS OVERRATED

Random....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the All American stuff , congrats to her and I am sure we'll deserved but there is no more political award in sports than the girls All American awards . Suffolk has the same few coaches each year who select the players and shocking each year their teams are over represented .

Funny thing is that political award from last year has a ton of Suffolk girls starting and playing great as freshmen at their colleges.

A ton, really ? Then you have two tons of girls who did not AA starting and playing great as freshmen, and multiple time AA barely contributing. If you don't think its very,very political then you are clueless. I can tell you now who in sufffolk will get the AA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the All American stuff , congrats to her and I am sure we'll deserved but there is no more political award in sports than the girls All American awards . Suffolk has the same few coaches each year who select the players and shocking each year their teams are over represented .

Funny thing is that political award from last year has a ton of Suffolk girls starting and playing great as freshmen at their colleges.

Even funnier is when girls have gotten it but barely played that year ,yet you don't see any politics .Open your eyes.

So tell us

happens everywhere work hard and focus on what you can control

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They don't give them out in Nassau either unless you're on a top team in the top division. Girls can bust their [lacrosse] in a lower division which is decided on by school size and never get a nod. It's a shame, something needs to change with the politics.

Are you talking about the power conference that is NOT decided by school size or playoff divisions that are based on school enrollment?Conference A had zero girls make AA last year while conference B had 12 (4 GC. 5 MAN and 3 Wantagh) and conference C had 2 (both from CSH)

Nassau used to do ability grouping

Nassau playoff grouping is a joke. Every year in B you give it to GC, Manhasset or last year Wantagh and in C CSH needs to win two games by about 20 goals in each game. Only A is competitive.

Regular season is much better where teams have the guts to ask in to the power division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau playoff grouping is a joke. Every year in B you give it to GC, Manhasset or last year Wantagh and in C CSH needs to win two games by about 20 goals in each game. Only A is competitive.

Regular season is much better where teams have the guts to ask in to the power division

CSH just lost to Syosset so you may want to rethink that ranking.

Do bad coaches ever realize that they are doing more harm than good? When was the last time a coach resigned for the good of the program? Do they ever look in the mirror and admit that they really don't know what they are doing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad coaches ever realize that they are doing more harm than good? When was the last time a coach resigned for the good of the program? Do they ever look in the mirror and admit that they really don't know what they are doing?

Bahahahah, you're kidding, right? That would NEVER happen. All coaches believe they are doing the right thing for the good of the team. Or that they're doing the best they can for as much as they care and, hey, it's a paycheck and I've got this gig for as long as I want it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad coaches ever realize that they are doing more harm than good? When was the last time a coach resigned for the good of the program? Do they ever look in the mirror and admit that they really don't know what they are doing?

How do you define doing more harm than good? Is it win/loss record? Strategy? Ability to motivate players? Willingness to "change it up" if their first strategy is not working?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad coaches ever realize that they are doing more harm than good? When was the last time a coach resigned for the good of the program? Do they ever look in the mirror and admit that they really don't know what they are doing?

How do you define doing more harm than good? Is it win/loss record? Strategy? Ability to motivate players? Willingness to "change it up" if their first strategy is not working?

Get the ball to Shannon and get out of the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nassau playoff grouping is a joke. Every year in B you give it to GC, Manhasset or last year Wantagh and in C CSH needs to win two games by about 20 goals in each game. Only A is competitive.

Regular season is much better where teams have the guts to ask in to the power division

CSH just lost to Syosset so you may want to rethink that ranking.

If you don't think CSH is going to win their two "C" playoff games by two touchdowns then you aren't watching. They could play their middle school team and win "C"

Nassau "C" is a cake walk. For any above average team.

Nassau "A" isnt much better, two teams at best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do bad coaches ever realize that they are doing more harm than good? When was the last time a coach resigned for the good of the program? Do they ever look in the mirror and admit that they really don't know what they are doing?

How do you define doing more harm than good? Is it win/loss record? Strategy? Ability to motivate players? Willingness to "change it up" if their first strategy is not working?

In our district it would be all of the above and then some. Over the years our coach has proven time and time again that she does not have the ability to lead a team. Wins and Losses is only a part of the problem.

Bahahahaha! If I had a "Shannon" on my team, I would want the ball in her stick too! You tell me one coach on Long Island that thinks differently. AND, I can say there is a lot more coaching on that team then just "Shannon" getting the ball. Someone sounds sour!!

We have the same problem in our district but i fear that people are afraid to speak up bc she is also a teacher in our school. She has no control over the girls and she puts some of the "Problem girls" on a pedestal. has no clue about lax, but tauts that she knows SO much. It's sad for all the girls who just want to play, the game has become over played and under coached. The players at some of these high schools know more than the coaches and the coaches ego's are too big to accept any insight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have the same problem in our district but i fear that people are afraid to speak up bc she is also a teacher in our school. She has no control over the girls and she puts some of the "Problem girls" on a pedestal. has no clue about lax, but tauts that she knows SO much. It's sad for all the girls who just want to play, the game has become over played and under coached. The players at some of these high schools know more than the coaches and the coaches ego's are too big to accept any insight.

Says another travel parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have the same problem in our district but i fear that people are afraid to speak up bc she is also a teacher in our school. She has no control over the girls and she puts some of the "Problem girls" on a pedestal. has no clue about lax, but tauts that she knows SO much. It's sad for all the girls who just want to play, the game has become over played and under coached. The players at some of these high schools know more than the coaches and the coaches ego's are too big to accept any insight.

What's going on at Massapequa?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's going on at Massapequa?

Traffic by the mall, long lines at All American burger, and open lanes at Massapequa Bowl. What's on your mind?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's going on at Massapequa?

they're not a good team! Same as the past few years

teachers get first choice.
Read their contract, it is their job if they want it.
Thank God for the youth programs and travel teams. The funny part is that the coaches think they did this and built this program. Anybody can say the right thing BUT can you teach it?

They have an 8th grader that is lights out. Possibly best on LI

The goalie is great! I agree!

Any insight on the surprising 10-4 CSH v GC game? Is CSH up that much this year or is GC down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any insight on the surprising 10-4 CSH v GC game? Is CSH up that much this year or is GC down?

Out coached - no surprise
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Congrats to the CSH goalie

CSH goalie put on an absolute show. 13 saves on 17 shots. Held GC to 1 goal until 6 minutes left. She was a huge difference maker. Draws were heavily in CSH's favor too - their draw girl was excellent.

I agree with the above response - GC was completely out coached. Why wouldn't you pull your goalie earlier after barely any saves? And what about face guarding the CSH played who had 3G, 4A and basically puts up half of CSH's points every game ? Makes no sense.

GC down all over

Dont blame this one coaching, GC was outplayed in every aspect of the game!!! Congrats to CSH they were awesome.

Anyone have feelings on who's looking good for B this playoff season? Manhasset, GC, Wantagh, Long Beach, Southside, Roslyn, Plainedge? Any surprises so far? Anyone else worth mentioning?

you people have no clue

Hey the girls that make AA are not only scorers , look at the teams that sub and dont win games by 15+
Mr=Mrs Rose are the coaches that love to pad stats

Is the CSH goalie going to Boston College?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dont blame this one coaching, GC was outplayed in every aspect of the game!!! Congrats to CSH they were awesome.

GC was outplayed in the first half and out coached all game. The CSH goalie outplayed everyone the entire game. Great day for CSH following a tough loss earlier in the week. I wouldn't count GC out just yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey the girls that make AA are not only scorers , look at the teams that sub and dont win games by 15+
Mr=Mrs Rose are the coaches that love to pad stats

Ahhh, Ms. Rose...another bully, and another money grabber. I think when Donald Trump made some of of his comments about women he had to have had Carol Rose in mind

Does anyone know who the Long Island Coaches for School Girls are this year, tryouts are next Sunday.

Will Be no surprises. Wantagh, Manhasset and GC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have an 8th grader that is lights out. Possibly best on LI

Thanks Dad!

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey the girls that make AA are not only scorers , look at the teams that sub and dont win games by 15+
Mr=Mrs Rose are the coaches that love to pad stats

Ahhh, Ms. Rose...another bully, and another money grabber. I think when Donald Trump made some of of his comments about women he had to have had Carol Rose in mind

Honestly have no idea what the heck either of you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH goalie put on an absolute show. 13 saves on 17 shots. Held GC to 1 goal until 6 minutes left. She was a huge difference maker. Draws were heavily in CSH's favor too - their draw girl was excellent.

I agree with the above response - GC was completely out coached. Why wouldn't you pull your goalie earlier after barely any saves? And what about face guarding the CSH played who had 3G, 4A and basically puts up half of CSH's points every game ? Makes no sense.

You are a moron , first to single out a kid to be pulled out of the game makes you look like a [lacrosse]. Second you scored 4 goals but you only talk as if the defense lost the game. Not going to win too many high school games if your offense plays like that.

Yes

How many show up for this? Is it as fixed as the Brine? Would like to know who evaluators are

Who cares who the coaches are?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry Miller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey the girls that make AA are not only scorers , look at the teams that sub and dont win games by 15+
Mr=Mrs Rose are the coaches that love to pad stats

Ahhh, Ms. Rose...another bully, and another money grabber. I think when Donald Trump made some of of his comments about women he had to have had Carol Rose in mind

Honestly have no idea what the heck either of you are talking about.

What type of A-hole coach wins by 20? Anybody can do that but very few do and she is one of them.

How about some credit for the csh defense. Goalie getting all the credit for the win, did goalie get all the blame for the loss the other day? Team game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH goalie put on an absolute show. 13 saves on 17 shots. Held GC to 1 goal until 6 minutes left. She was a huge difference maker. Draws were heavily in CSH's favor too - their draw girl was excellent.

I agree with the above response - GC was completely out coached. Why wouldn't you pull your goalie earlier after barely any saves? And what about face guarding the CSH played who had 3G, 4A and basically puts up half of CSH's points every game ? Makes no sense.

You are a moron , first to single out a kid to be pulled out of the game makes you look like a [lacrosse]. Second you scored 4 goals but you only talk as if the defense lost the game. Not going to win too many high school games if your offense plays like that.

Who said the defense lost the game? Outcoached is what I keep seeing. And I agree.

I don't think it was the GC goalies fault at all - I think it was the team in general was off and unfortunately the goalie was left with little help. I think of it as more of a mercy thing to give her a break at least. Definitely did not mean that in a negative way but I see how it could come off that way - I apologize. Both GC goalies are excellent, but yesterday was just an off day and CSH also has some very impressive shooters.

Agree with the offense comment - turning the ball over so often is putting way too much pressure on their D.

I'm looking forward to seeing how to GC- St. Ants game goes this weekend. I bet GC will come out flying.

And for the record I am from neither team - I was there watching friends kids play from both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have feelings on who's looking good for B this playoff season? Manhasset, GC, Wantagh, Long Beach, Southside, Roslyn, Plainedge? Any surprises so far? Anyone else worth mentioning?

Where is Roslyn?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have feelings on who's looking good for B this playoff season? Manhasset, GC, Wantagh, Long Beach, Southside, Roslyn, Plainedge? Any surprises so far? Anyone else worth mentioning?

Where is Roslyn?

LIE Exit 37.

CANT BLAME DEFENSE WHEN YOU LOSE AND DO NOT SCORE GOALS
YOU HAVE TO SCORE
AND I AGREE WITH THE CAROL ROSE STATEMENT SHE HAS KILLED TEAMS PADDED STATS AND IS VERY UNSPORTSMANLIKE
I AM GLAD MY KID DOES NOT PLAY FOR HER

That CR BS is so far from the truth! NPT did not even beat anyone by 20 and those making this crap up must really be bored out of their minds. Wish CR coached my kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That CR BS is so far from the truth! NPT did not even beat anyone by 20 and those making this crap up must really be bored out of their minds. Wish CR coached my kid.

Write a check and she will coach your kid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CANT BLAME DEFENSE WHEN YOU LOSE AND DO NOT SCORE GOALS
YOU HAVE TO SCORE
AND I AGREE WITH THE CAROL ROSE STATEMENT SHE HAS KILLED TEAMS PADDED STATS AND IS VERY UNSPORTSMANLIKE
I AM GLAD MY KID DOES NOT PLAY FOR HER

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Stop shouting - it's ridiculous. And where does it say the defense was blamed? The poster blamed the coaches. I agree. And how did CR get involved in this?

What little respect I had for official stat keeping went right out the window today. I watched a girl get credit for an assist after she won a draw control, turn and pass to a girl at the restraining line, who ran 25 yards to the goal and scored.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington got their clocks cleaned by Rocky Point!

And now Rocky Point knows how Huntington feels after getting taken behind the woodshed by BBP.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What little respect I had for official stat keeping went right out the window today. I watched a girl get credit for an assist after she won a draw control, turn and pass to a girl at the restraining line, who ran 25 yards to the goal and scored.

The number of steps is irrelevant if the scorer didn't have to evade a defender.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have feelings on who's looking good for B this playoff season? Manhasset, GC, Wantagh, Long Beach, Southside, Roslyn, Plainedge? Any surprises so far? Anyone else worth mentioning?

Where is Roslyn?

You are putting Roslyn up here with Manhasset, wantagh, garden city, CSH? You are aware we are talking about HS Girls Lax? Right?

Any of the top varsity programs have any noticeable depth on jv ....seems garden city is on the decline ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What little respect I had for official stat keeping went right out the window today. I watched a girl get credit for an assist after she won a draw control, turn and pass to a girl at the restraining line, who ran 25 yards to the goal and scored.

if the shooter does not get any defensive pressure after receiving the pass she can run 100 yards and it is in fact an assist.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What little respect I had for official stat keeping went right out the window today. I watched a girl get credit for an assist after she won a draw control, turn and pass to a girl at the restraining line, who ran 25 yards to the goal and scored.

The number of steps is irrelevant if the scorer didn't have to evade a defender.

Taken directly From US LAcrosse website:

3. ASSIST: An assist is a play made by a player to her teammate who then scores a goal without having to evade excessive defensive pressure other than the goalkeeper. Only one assist per goal may be recorded.
The guideline to award an assist includes two parts: there must be a pass made to the recipient; and the recipient must take a shot. If the passer (potential assister) is able to move the ball to a teammate (recipient), who has maneuvered for a good or more advantageous position to take a shot, then the passer can be awarded with an assist. If the shooter, after receiving the ball from her teammate (passer/potential assister) must outrun or maneuver around any excessive defensive pressure before shooting, no assist can be awarded. It is not necessary for the shooter to possess the ball for a specific length of time, nor must the shooter limit the number of steps taken after she receives the ball for a shot. The only deciding factor, after the recipient receives a pass from her teammate, is the amount of pressure the recipient (shooter) had to evade to put her into a position for the shot, if any.

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

In the country is a stretch, on LI maybe as the talent here is peaking, however with that being said there are some under the radar 8th grade powerhouses coming out of LI real soon, Be warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

Where has she comitted to? What college?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

Thanks Mom!

We brought them in from Russia. They are in eighth- grade 6' tall and hairy. All of these power houses will be playing for Long Island clubs this summer.
You have been warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

Where has she comitted to? What college?

Are you guys talking about the goalie or the kiddie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many show up for this? Is it as fixed as the Brine? Would like to know who evaluators are

How many show up is based on how many are nominated by their HS coach. Can't comprehensive School girls to Brine. Brine will take anyone that can catch, throw and has a check.

That's hysterical! Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]What's going on at Massapequa

They have they best 8th grader in the country, the rest of the team needs work.

In the country is a stretch, on LI maybe as the talent here is peaking, however with that being said there are some under the radar 8th grade powerhouses coming out of LI real soon, Be warned.

This is a very subjective topic based on opinion. What makes a great player? The ability to go to goal hard, heavy and usually successful....then a case can be made. Others may look for all around players, scrappiness, field vision....then you may disagree. In any event a very subjective topic open to opinion and best left alone.

Middie.

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

True, any of them on really good teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, any of them on really good teams?

great point

What's the situation on a coach that does little subbing and you are getting hammered as a team? My daughters first year playing for varsity and the coaches do not sub al all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the situation on a coach that does little subbing and you are getting hammered as a team? My daughters first year playing for varsity and the coaches do not sub al all.

Welcome to most teams. That's why many schools have zero talent after the top handful of girls. They don't spread the ball around when they are winning or losing big. The top girls are just there to pad the resumes for college since they got recruited with their club team, everyone else.... who cares

Well that's depressing... How is the team going to get better? And what happens when the other girls graduate?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the situation on a coach that does little subbing and you are getting hammered as a team? My daughters first year playing for varsity and the coaches do not sub al all.

Welcome to most teams. That's why many schools have zero talent after the top handful of girls. They don't spread the ball around when they are winning or losing big. The top girls are just there to pad the resumes for college since they got recruited with their club team, everyone else.... who cares

You just described both side of the WB-Islip game yesterday. Islip doesn't sub at all when they clearly should. Girls on the field have trouble catching and throwing. While on the other side, WB made subs but it wasn't for the girls that constantly shoot. It was for the 2nd level players on their team. When 2 girls account for 10 of your 18 goals, maybe sub them out instead of a girl that barely touches the ball?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

I would assume IG is Instagram

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well that's depressing... How is the team going to get better? And what happens when the other girls graduate?

Nobody cares. This is todays Lacrosse, the most selfish game around. This once great team game has been hijacked by people only in it for profit and scholarship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Where is this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

If the younger girls are playing varsity, they are hanging out with the upperclassmen everyday at practice, meetings, bus rides, games, etc.

Club parents would their 7th or 8th grader hang around with Satan if it playing varsity and getting that verbal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

What a bunch of losers ,stop talking about some 12 year old and how immature she is while you so called mature adults post about it on an anonymous forum. I always think its interesting that you are too cowardly to approach the parents of these kids you are so concerned about and have a discussion. What school district do you people live in that exposing your 7-8th grade daughters to some high school athletes is so traumatizing, if thats the case then maybe its time to move. I must be very fortunate because the athletes in our high school are some of the best role models around and have not heard of one bad incident while I have personally witnessed a lot of great moments of mentoring etc. Please let me know what district you all live in where the teams are essentially filled with adult content so I can skip that away game.

There are plenty of 8th graders who are doing well on varsity

Babylon
BBP
WH
Mattituck
LB
Massapequa
NP
Connq
Patch Med.

It appears that in some cases the teams are play-off caliber teams and the girls are making very meaningful contributions. I'm sure these are some of the same kids that played varsity in 7th grade.

I agree, but nobody would be talking about 12yr old girls if their dopey parents didnt come on here talking nonsense. You cant have it both ways.

Besides BBP, most of these teams are weak to very weak. Most teams are C small schools. It is not difficult to get points in alot of the suffolk games. No offense to a bunch of these really bad teams, kids work hard. I give them credit for losing every game by 15 and still keep coming back.

The original post was 7th and 8th graders. Give it a rest, what do these parents want? The kids are getting their names in the paper. We need a new thread, 2020 hs girls lax, so these parents can go wild. Lets talk about who's going to win the counties on this thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

It was a bunch of disparaging remarks about the teams captain. Spoiled little brat calling the older girl names and stating that the older girl had no skill using very choice language via social media. Huge distraction and has caused major rifts between other players. Girl should be completely removed but father is football coach and AD won't let that happen. No leader at all, a self entitled attitude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

It was a bunch of disparaging remarks about the teams captain. Spoiled little brat calling the older girl names and stating that the older girl had no skill using very choice language via social media. Huge distraction and has caused major rifts between other players. Girl should be completely removed but father is football coach and AD won't let that happen. No leader at all, a self entitled attitude.

What town is all of this happening

Sayville

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides BBP, most of these teams are weak to very weak. Most teams are C small schools. It is not difficult to get points in alot of the suffolk games. No offense to a bunch of these really bad teams, kids work hard. I give them credit for losing every game by 15 and still keep coming back.

Actually you are just ignorant , most of the schools mentioned are not C , 3 are in the C division. That said the C division is clearly better and more competitive than the B division and probably better than than the A. Your comment just shows you have no clue .The really bad teams you are talking about are not in the C division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides BBP, most of these teams are weak to very weak. Most teams are C small schools. It is not difficult to get points in alot of the suffolk games. No offense to a bunch of these really bad teams, kids work hard. I give them credit for losing every game by 15 and still keep coming back.

You look foolish when you make these comments and are obviously jealous of the kids that have been moved up . Please tell us the B or A school that would be the clear favorite in the C.

Ok, how about this question. Besides BBP, does any of the other teams even have a chance of winning their conf? And if you say yes, we can get together and make a few bets. The only 2 clear favorite Cs are BBP and MS. I would take a dozen A and B against the rest of the Cs. So your 8th grader gets a goal in a 18-0 game and your all happy with yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

It was a bunch of disparaging remarks about the teams captain. Spoiled little brat calling the older girl names and stating that the older girl had no skill using very choice language via social media. Huge distraction and has caused major rifts between other players. Girl should be completely removed but father is football coach and AD won't let that happen. No leader at all, a self entitled attitude.

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Just curious-what's the point of yellow cards besides playing down a player for 2 minutes? Is that the only penalty? Can a player get multiple yellows a game and keep playing? I attended a game this week and a player had 2, should have had 3, are they ever ejected or are there consequences for future? Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

What is IG? And how would you know if a kid alienated herself, 8th graders shouldn't be hanging out with the juniors and seniors anyway.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

No, not warranted. Just entitled and feels untouchable because dad coaches football. And she's right. Daddy got her back on the team. Great job teaching life skills mom and dad. Some parent just don't have a clue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, how about this question. Besides BBP, does any of the other teams even have a chance of winning their conf? And if you say yes, we can get together and make a few bets. The only 2 clear favorite Cs are BBP and MS. I would take a dozen A and B against the rest of the Cs. So your 8th grader gets a goal in a 18-0 game and your all happy with yourself.

Again you just show yourself to be ignorant but which B team would be the clear favorite to win the C if you take BBP and Sinai out . You would take a dozen , just shows you are so ignorant and have no clue . I will be waiting for your idiot response but don't forget to name some teams that would be the clear cut favorite over the rest of the C division .

The player receiving a card must leave the field and enter the penalty area
for two minutes (yellow) or four minutes (red) of elapsed playing time, which will carry
over to the second half or overtime if necessary. No substitute may take her place. No
player on the penalized team must be moved 4m behind.

If a player receives two Yellow Cards they are not allowed to return into the game. If a player receives a Red card they are out for the remainder of the game plus the next contest.

Should a team receive its fourth card (yellow or red) of the game they
will play short below the restraining lines for the remainder of that game, including
overtime, and an additional player will be removed from the game and enter the
penalty area for each subsequent card received. The carded player will serve the
entire two or four-minute penalty time. When the penalty time expires, she may return
to the game only if she has not been suspended (second yellow card) or ejected (red
card) and only if another player leaves the field using normal substitution procedures

Tough loss for WM yesterday. Just in case anyone is interested here are the official rules....Note nothing mentioned in the rule book even close to what the ref used for an explanation. Goal was a goal! Hang in there girls!!

Section 28. At any time during the game, at the official�s discretion, time out may be called to inspect any crosse in use on the field. This does not include the sticks of players
standing in the substitution box or on the sideline. The official shall also inspect the pocket of any player�s crosse upon request of the opposing Head coach or any opposing player
on the field. The request must include the player�s number. Each team will be allowed two stick check requests per game.

a. Should the crosse meet specifications, the game shall be re-started by the ball being given to the player who was in possession of the ball, or closest to the ball if there was no possession, when time out was called.
b. Should the crosse not meet specifications, it shall be removed from the game by the official and placed at the scorer�s table for the remainder of the half. Personnel
from the team may come to the table to fix/adjust the stick but the stick may not be removed from that area. Any crosse not meeting specifications may be re-inspected (at half time or before any overtime period) by the official for use
in the second half or overtime period. After the removal of a crosse not meeting specifications, the game shall be re-started with a free position to the opponent nearest the ball when play was stopped. If the illegal crosse is an offsetting foul, alternate possession will be awarded. The team requesting the stick check will not
lose any of its two allowable requests if the crosse is found to be illegal.
c. In the event that a goal was scored with a crosse that does not meet specifications, the
goal shall not count, the crosse shall be removed, and play shall be resumed with a free position at the center line. Player positioning for the draw shall apply. Once the game is
restarted with the draw, the goal shall stand.
d. If after a goal is scored and before the game is restarted with the draw, any player other than the shooter is found to have a crosse not meeting specifications, the
goal shall stand, and a free position will be taken at the center by the opposing team.

What happened in the WM game

One more explanation from US Lacrosse

Obstruction of the Free Space to Goal (shooting space):

NOTE: This call should be made only if the player with the ball has the opportunity to and is looking to shoot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One more explanation from US Lacrosse

Obstruction of the Free Space to Goal (shooting space):

NOTE: This call should be made only if the player with the ball has the opportunity to and is looking to shoot.

Obstruction of the Free Space to Goal (shooting space): with any part of her
body guard the goal outside the goal circle so as to obstruct the free space to
goal, between the ball and the goal circle, which denies the attack the opportunity
to shoot safely and encourages shooting at a player. The Obstruction of the Free
Space to Goal rule is in effect when the ball is within the critical scoring area and
above the goal line extended.
1. This positioning applies only if initiated by the defender and not if she is drawn
into the free space to goal by an attacking player.
2. This positioning applies to a defender not marking an attack player within a
stick�s length.
NOTE: This call should be made only if the player with the ball has the opportunity
to and is looking to shoot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One more explanation from US Lacrosse

Obstruction of the Free Space to Goal (shooting space):

NOTE: This call should be made only if the player with the ball has the opportunity to and is looking to shoot.

Obstruction of the Free Space to Goal (shooting space): with any part of her
body guard the goal outside the goal circle so as to obstruct the free space to
goal, between the ball and the goal circle, which denies the attack the opportunity
to shoot safely and encourages shooting at a player. The Obstruction of the Free
Space to Goal rule is in effect when the ball is within the critical scoring area and
above the goal line extended.
1. This positioning applies only if initiated by the defender and not if she is drawn
into the free space to goal by an attacking player.
2. This positioning applies to a defender not marking an attack player within a
stick�s length.
NOTE: This call should be made only if the player with the ball has the opportunity
to and is looking to shoot.

That is correct, and there are a few more examples in the book. Point is attacker has to be attempting to shoot. Too often see it called with just passing ball around. Rules are very clear and easy to understand, not sure why it is so confusing to some officials.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened in the WM game

Tie goal with 1:00 minute left on clock called off. Player scores, team is congratulating and celebrating with goal scorer. At least 10 seconds tics before ref responds to stick check from Yorktown coach. Player and team are celebrating and goal is called off for an accusation of "touching strings". Watch video on News12. Player never touched strings. Officials never saw that occur.

Did they check the stick ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

In

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, how about this question. Besides BBP, does any of the other teams even have a chance of winning their conf? And if you say yes, we can get together and make a few bets. The only 2 clear favorite Cs are BBP and MS. I would take a dozen A and B against the rest of the Cs. So your 8th grader gets a goal in a 18-0 game and your all happy with yourself.

Again you just show yourself to be ignorant but which B team would be the clear favorite to win the C if you take BBP and Sinai out . You would take a dozen , just shows you are so ignorant and have no clue . I will be waiting for your idiot response but don't forget to name some teams that would be the clear cut favorite over the rest of the C division .

Make it easy for this guy who obviously knows little about lacrosse . Just list the 3 B teams that would be such overwhelming favorites in the C division taking BBP , Mt. Sinai out of the equation . Or just tell us the top two teams this year in the B .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The original post was 7th and 8th graders. Give it a rest, what do these parents want? The kids are getting their names in the paper. We need a new thread, 2020 hs girls lax, so these parents can go wild. Lets talk about who's going to win the counties on this thread.

Funny thing is that there is a significant amount of these kids playing V and JV that are going to Catholic HS anyway!

Well the twitter world and IG world is quite small. Don't think the rest of LI doesn't' see what is going on from Sayville? It is a bit over the top. Self serving and oh I don't know, crappy. Im probably at least 40 miles away, and know way more about Sayville than what is 3 miles from me.

Don'[t think others don't see it we do.

Huntington is falling apart from injuries!! we have more downed starters and non starters that we should have at a seasons start. FYI to the coaches....... YOU must use your bench or you will have a full on busted team. You must have trust that the team you compiled can get the job done and not rely on ONE girl to score every goal. Its really humiliating at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did they check the stick ?

No. Official just took the stick, never did a stick check on it and put it on the bench stating it was no longer legal because she was carrying her stick after the goal. Can anyone tell me if this call was correct? Trying to look at it from the officiating side

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did they check the stick ?

No. Official just took the stick, never did a stick check on it and put it on the bench stating it was no longer legal because she was carrying her stick after the goal. Can anyone tell me if this call was correct? Trying to look at it from the officiating side

No dog in this fight but it seems that the goal was scored and in the post goal celebration the strings on the stick may have been " checked" by the goal scorer. I believe if the opposing team had requested a stick check and then that occurred prior to the refs getting the stick it is the correct call. They really should go to the college rules that the player has to drop their stick after each goal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington is falling apart from injuries!! we have more downed starters and non starters that we should have at a seasons start. FYI to the coaches....... YOU must use your bench or you will have a full on busted team. You must have trust that the team you compiled can get the job done and not rely on ONE girl to score every goal. Its really humiliating at this point.

I assume if they are hurting from so many injuries (like you said) they must be already pretty deep in the bench. If at this point your daughter isn't playing and they are riddled with injuries, I would doubt your daughter is going to get much action as she must be very low on the totem pole. Maybe some of the injured players will get back soon and Huntington will get back on track, although that wont help the playing time for your daughter.

Somethings never change.

Thanks for the post interpretation, however, I was not complaining of playing time. Quite the opposite. I know that is a rarity among these posts.

2 yellow cards for the same player, that players sits out for the rest of the game. a red card means out for that game and the next. If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 yellow cards for the same player, that players sits out for the rest of the game. a red card means out for that game and the next. If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

So the same player can get lets say 5 yellow cards or more. Worst penelty is team plays man down, then 2 players down every 8 cards?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 yellow cards for the same player, that players sits out for the rest of the game. a red card means out for that game and the next. If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

So the same player can get lets say 5 yellow cards or more. Worst penelty is team plays man down, then 2 players down every 8 cards?

Slow down and re-read the above..
2 yellow cards for the same player, then that players sits out for the rest of the game.
a red card means out for that game and the next.
If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

That is what is crazy that after all that this 7th grader still runs her mouth and publicly calls an older teammate all kinds of names on IG, How embarrassing? Hopefully her suspension will teach her a lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

True, but this event justifies all of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

That is what is crazy that after all that this 7th grader still runs her mouth and publicly calls an older teammate all kinds of names on IG, How embarrassing? Hopefully her suspension will teach her a lesson.

Yep. She learned that she can do whatever she wants and Daddy will fix it for her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

True, but this event justifies all of it.

Don't know the details but maybe this highlights that 7th graders really don't have the maturity regardless of their athletic prowess?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did they check the stick ?

No. Official just took the stick, never did a stick check on it and put it on the bench stating it was no longer legal because she was carrying her stick after the goal. Can anyone tell me if this call was correct? Trying to look at it from the officiating side

No dog in this fight but it seems that the goal was scored and in the post goal celebration the strings on the stick may have been " checked" by the goal scorer. I believe if the opposing team had requested a stick check and then that occurred prior to the refs getting the stick it is the correct call. They really should go to the college rules that the player has to drop their stick after each goal.

Completely agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 yellow cards for the same player, that players sits out for the rest of the game. a red card means out for that game and the next. If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

So the same player can get lets say 5 yellow cards or more. Worst penelty is team plays man down, then 2 players down every 8 cards?

Slow down and re-read the above..
2 yellow cards for the same player, then that players sits out for the rest of the game.
a red card means out for that game and the next.
If a team gets 4 yellow cards they play man down the whole game

Thanks

24-13, that is one ugly game. Does either team care about playing any form of defense or is it all about getting your points for the season.

Gotta love the Newsday BIG 10! The picture of J O. A clear picture of an illegal pocket!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will be a learning experience for this young 7th grader. She will learn that you don't go on a social media site, rip another girl apart and put your name on it. She will eventually learn that she should go on an anonymous site, rip into a girl and leave her name off of it, like the parents of the older girl are doing on here!

Nope not the parent of the older girl, I am sure they are sitting back enjoying this as they warned all of the other parents about just this very thing. For this girl to do this it comes from her upbringing, and whatever they want people to think there is something flawed with them. The actions of this girls and the subsequent action of reinstating her to the team has ultimately destroyed the experience for so many on the team. This is a despicable stain. To the coach to tell the team that if anyone speaks of it they are off the team stinks of a cover-up.

Why post anonymously? Both parents are teachers in the building and why risk the repercussions of speaking out against them. It's a football town and the family is held to a different standard (and not a higher one). The father of all people being the head football coach should no how much damage actions such as these can do to a team. He should voluntarily remove her if he wants to restore any respect. But it do as I say not as I do when it comes to Him.

Let's be honest there was bellyaching going on before these young ladies ever stepped on the field for tryouts.

True, but this event justifies all of it.

Don't know the details but maybe this highlights that 7th graders really don't have the maturity regardless of their athletic prowess?

I think in this case that's obvious. The worst part is that she's not a stud player. She's a good player for a 7th grader, but not varsity caliber.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gotta love the Newsday BIG 10! The picture of J O. A clear picture of an illegal pocket!

Throw strings wrapped to many times between leathers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, how about this question. Besides BBP, does any of the other teams even have a chance of winning their conf? And if you say yes, we can get together and make a few bets. The only 2 clear favorite Cs are BBP and MS. I would take a dozen A and B against the rest of the Cs. So your 8th grader gets a goal in a 18-0 game and your all happy with yourself.

Again you just show yourself to be ignorant but which B team would be the clear favorite to win the C if you take BBP and Sinai out . You would take a dozen , just shows you are so ignorant and have no clue . I will be waiting for your idiot response but don't forget to name some teams that would be the clear cut favorite over the rest of the C division .

Make it easy for this guy who obviously knows little about lacrosse . Just list the 3 B teams that would be such overwhelming favorites in the C division taking BBP , Mt. Sinai out of the equation . Or just tell us the top two teams this year in the B .

Gotta love when the ignorant anti C clown gets schooled , no reply because he realizes how uninformed he is.

"Don't know the details but maybe this highlights that 7th graders really don't have the maturity regardless of their athletic prowess?"

Yes because 9-12 graders never post anything inappropriate or immature on social media.All it highlights is maybe this kid was not mature enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24-13, that is one ugly game. Does either team care about playing any form of defense or is it all about getting your points for the season.

Islip has been a stat padding team for years, if I remember correctly they were being killed a few years ago for running it up against the weak teams. Got to say the sisters picked the right school as SB and that coach love to humiliate the lesser teams leaving their stars in the game to get grotesque numbers to try and get on the watch list. Now you have the high school coaches letting kids get 15 points in blowouts against weak teams so they can go after the AA award.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24-13, that is one ugly game. Does either team care about playing any form of defense or is it all about getting your points for the season.

Islip has been a stat padding team for years, if I remember correctly they were being killed a few years ago for running it up against the weak teams. Got to say the sisters picked the right school as SB and that coach love to humiliate the lesser teams leaving their stars in the game to get grotesque numbers to try and get on the watch list. Now you have the high school coaches letting kids get 15 points in blowouts against weak teams so they can go after the AA award.

Connetquot and Plainedge also won big yesterday. Connetquot spread the ball around with 8 goal scorers and no girl with more than 3 goals at least that's trying to play nice with Copaigue who is always overmatched. Good for the coaches who know after the first 2 minutes that the game is won and makes adjustments quickly

I said it for years let's see your stats against the top teams not the weak ones any one can score 8 goals against the weak teams just like her sister

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I said it for years let's see your stats against the top teams not the weak ones any one can score 8 goals against the weak teams just like her sister

Her sister is an absolute monster on a top 10 D1 team. She looks to be a very similar player. You're being pity and jealous.

Islip has and will get pounded by any decent team. let them pad the stats all they want. It only means something when it is accomplished against the better teams. Until that happens its not worth talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24-13, that is one ugly game. Does either team care about playing any form of defense or is it all about getting your points for the season.

Islip has been a stat padding team for years, if I remember correctly they were being killed a few years ago for running it up against the weak teams. Got to say the sisters picked the right school as SB and that coach love to humiliate the lesser teams leaving their stars in the game to get grotesque numbers to try and get on the watch list. Now you have the high school coaches letting kids get 15 points in blowouts against weak teams so they can go after the AA award.

Connetquot and Plainedge also won big yesterday. Connetquot spread the ball around with 8 goal scorers and no girl with more than 3 goals at least that's trying to play nice with Copaigue who is always overmatched. Good for the coaches who know after the first 2 minutes that the game is won and makes adjustments quickly

Grandaughter plays on a nassau team put in a low conference this year and coach pulls starters out as soon as they are up by 10, does not allow anyone to have more than 5 total points (selfish player/pet excluded) and while it is frustrating to watch I find it terrible to see other coaches allowing their team to stat pad.

Good players who are stat padders are usually in weaker divisions and pad their stats against lesser competition to over compensate for their teams weak divisional placement. Nobody likes or respects players who are just there for themselves. #Pass the ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Contrary to some popular opinions on this site, there seem to be a number of 7th and 8th graders that are having a very positive impact on their teams.

Not in one of the towns. 1 is doing well on defense but the other is clearly over her head. She also alienated herself from her team by calling out another player on IG. Maturity is important and she's not there yet.

so let me get this straight.. the head Football coach pushed for his daughter to be on Varsity, she is trashing the team with scrappy language on social media???

wow! suddenly I feel so much better about the issues on my daughters team. they're like a bunch of alter girls compared with that stuff. that sounds horrible.

7th graders. And, yes, I agree.

Kid must have a set of she thinks she's good enough to call out an older girl on the team. Coach should send her back to the MS team.

Are you kidding me... Was the girl right? That is the only question.. Who cares the age! Idk if 7 or 12 if a girl needs to be called out then do so... A true born leader of it was even semi warrented

It was a bunch of disparaging remarks about the teams captain. Spoiled little brat calling the older girl names and stating that the older girl had no skill using very choice language via social media. Huge distraction and has caused major rifts between other players. Girl should be completely removed but father is football coach and AD won't let that happen. No leader at all, a self entitled attitude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I said it for years let's see your stats against the top teams not the weak ones any one can score 8 goals against the weak teams just like her sister

Her sister is an absolute monster on a top 10 D1 team. She looks to be a very similar player. You're being pity and jealous.

Pathetic and jealous, happened to see the sister at Stony Brook vs stanford score 4/5 goals with a bunch of assists. Guess daddy wants his daughter to lead in points and yesterday did not help. The kid is a player stop criticizing kids dad.

So last year it was Huntington with all the drama and this year it will be Sayville?

Nothing juicy going on in NC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So last year it was Huntington with all the drama and this year it will be Sayville?

Nothing juicy going on in NC?

Not as much white trash in NC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So last year it was Huntington with all the drama and this year it will be Sayville?

Nothing juicy going on in NC?

Not as much white trash in NC

Nope just an entitled spoiled brat enabled by the threats of her father. The coaches (both of them), are lemmings. Holy roller fakes.

who is gonna win
MC vs Smithton west
WI VS NORTHPORT
MELVILLE VS SACHEM EAST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is gonna win
MC vs Smithton west ��.Smithtown West
WI VS NORTHPORT ��..WI
MELVILLE VS SACHEM EAST

��..Melville

no way

Of the top 20 msg varsity scoring leaders in suffolk, how many have half a chance of winning there division? 3 all the best players don't score 7 or 8 goals against any body.

To all of the Officials out there,, Mt Sinai cheats on the draw.. Draw girls first move is not up, they push forward. I have it on tape. Coaches keep an eye on this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is gonna win
MC vs Smithton west
WI VS NORTHPORT
MELVILLE VS SACHEM EAST

Middle Country: high powered offense and coaching advantage.

West Islip: More talent.

Toss up between Sachem East and WM: neither team competitive. Edge goes to WM, more depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK!!
melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest

1. West Islip. Over the past two years they are 40 - 4 with a State Championship. Good coaching and a winning attitude will take them far. Strong leadership. Coaches and players expect to win.

2. Middle Country. Will compete but last year might have been their year. 18 - 1 last year and combined 29 - 7 over the past two years. I think they will be in the mix. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulder. Are they hungry after last year?

3. Northport. 24 - 12 over the past two seasons. Coaching and tradition will keep them competitive. Not sure the horses are there to win the county but you never know. Usually play with a lot of attitude and emotion. Combine that with being well prepared for big games and they can surprise.

4/5. Toss up Smithtown East / Smithtown West. West is 24 - 10 while East is
23 - 11. the last two seasons. Not sure either team has the depth to challenge the top teams.

6. Ward Melville. 19 - 14 past two years. Historically will make playoffs and then lose to a team that they had beaten during the year. Better than .500 but can't see them winning.

Not sure if anyone else has a shot. Sachem East?

Good luck to all.

On the money so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, how about this question. Besides BBP, does any of the other teams even have a chance of winning their conf? And if you say yes, we can get together and make a few bets. The only 2 clear favorite Cs are BBP and MS. I would take a dozen A and B against the rest of the Cs. So your 8th grader gets a goal in a 18-0 game and your all happy with yourself.

have not heard from this ignorant jack---. Why so quiet? Could it be that you realized how much of a moron you are.

Mount Sinai v. Wantagh Give me some predictions

Mount Sinai by 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is gonna win
MC vs Smithton west
WI VS NORTHPORT
MELVILLE VS SACHEM EAST

Middle Country: high powered offense and coaching advantage.

West Islip: More talent.

Toss up between Sachem East and WM: neither team competitive. Edge goes to WM, more depth.

I don't believe Middle Country is a better coached team than Smithtown East! Middle Country was lucky to get out of there with a win yesterday. Definitely not the better team! West Islip will repeat as county champs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mount Sinai v. Wantagh Give me some predictions

Wantagh by 3

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

Wantagh by 4, Mt Sinai not used to playing real teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

I agree! Some very tough non league. Saturday should be a great day of lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

I agree! Some very tough non league. Saturday should be a great day of lacrosse

Does anyone know where you could find out Saturdays schedule for Cold Spring Harbor?
Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

I agree! Some very tough non league. Saturday should be a great day of lacrosse

Does anyone know where you could find out Saturdays schedule for Cold Spring Harbor?
Thank you!

SCHEDULE

Saddle River Day vs. Mattituck (N.Y.), 11 a.m.
No. 3 Ridgewood vs. Wantagh (N.Y.), 12 p.m.
No. 4 Moorestown vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 2 p.m.
No. 2 Summit vs. Eastport-South Manor (N.Y.), 4 p.m.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh by 4, Mt Sinai not used to playing real teams

You are not giving Mt Sinai enough credit...they are very good. They should win by 2-3 goals.

Also, there are (9) games at CSH on Saturday but I have not seen the full schedule

what school are you talking about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh by 4, Mt Sinai not used to playing real teams

You are not giving Mt Sinai enough credit...they are very good. They should win by 2-3 goals.

Also, there are (9) games at CSH on Saturday but I have not seen the full schedule

10AM : West Islip vs Darien
11AM: Saddle River Day vs Mattituck
12PM: Wantagh vs Ridgewood
1PM: New Canaan vs Middle Country
2PM: Garden City vs Moorestown
3PM: Yorktown vs Bayport Blue Point
4PM: Summit vs ESM
5PM: St. Anthony vs Oak Knoll
6PM: Cold Spring Harbor vs Suffern

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Now do you believe Mt. sinia is overrated. They would be around a 500 team if they played in the Nassau conference. I'm actually surprised they agreed to this game, as they never like to face any real teams.

Here are the Suffolk A standings of who would be in the playoffs if they started tomorrow. By power ranking

DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 5-0-0 5-0-0 131.200
Smithtown West 4-0-0 4-0-0 130.000
Middle Country 5-0-0 5-0-0 129.200
Northport 4-0-0 4-0-0 123.000
Patchogue-Medford 4-1-0 4-2-0 122.200
Sachem East 2-3-0 3-3-0 112.000
Ward Melville 2-2-0 2-4-0 111.200
Smithtown East 2-2-0 3-2-0 111.000
Riverhead 3-2-0 3-4-0 108.700
Sachem North 3-2-0 4-3-0 106.600
Bay Shore 3-1-0 4-1-0 105.900

Except for one girl from CSH all the Nassau point leaders are in low divisions running up points against inferior talent.

Huntington still has PLENTY of drama.............. and Plenty of dropped balls,shoddy attackers and weak defenders.......the midfield line catches and throws almost as good as my 3rd graders team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the Suffolk A standings of who would be in the playoffs if they started tomorrow. By power ranking

DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 5-0-0 5-0-0 131.200
Smithtown West 4-0-0 4-0-0 130.000
Middle Country 5-0-0 5-0-0 129.200
Northport 4-0-0 4-0-0 123.000
Patchogue-Medford 4-1-0 4-2-0 122.200
Sachem East 2-3-0 3-3-0 112.000
Ward Melville 2-2-0 2-4-0 111.200
Smithtown East 2-2-0 3-2-0 111.000
Riverhead 3-2-0 3-4-0 108.700
Sachem North 3-2-0 4-3-0 106.600
Bay Shore 3-1-0 4-1-0 105.900

Final Four will be:

West Islip
Middle Country
Northport
Smithtown .... E or W ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington still has PLENTY of drama.............. and Plenty of dropped balls,shoddy attackers and weak defenders.......the midfield line catches and throws almost as good as my 3rd graders team.

Time to bring up the 8th graders to varsity

I do not think that It's the team that needs to be replaced.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington still has PLENTY of drama.............. and Plenty of dropped balls,shoddy attackers and weak defenders.......the midfield line catches and throws almost as good as my 3rd graders team.

Time to bring up the 8th graders to varsity

Havent seen Hntgtn play yet - what is the issue? Why cant they win a game? They have some decent players. They have some good 11th/12th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Can you be more clueless? "Mt. Sinai doesn't play real teams?? Don't be ignorant! Contrary to the Nassau "power conference" there are 25 teams in suffolk division 2. On a normal year MT Sinai has to play 14 in conference games, usually the top 14. That leaves 2 open dates! Last year was st a's and CBA. This year it is Wantaugh and CBA! Last year Suffolk AB and C proved to be better than Nassau so the best competition was in their own back yard! Mt. Sinai graduated a dominant group last year including 2 of the top players in the country! It's easy to jump on here and criticize! I don't think anyone expected them to be dominant this year, but they are a good team and that game last night was competitive! It came down to the draw! Whoever was getting it went on a run! Mt Sinai is young and will get better as the season goes on! Let's hope u nassau elitists get over confident like you usually do!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Can you be more clueless? "Mt. Sinai doesn't play real teams?? Don't be ignorant! Contrary to the Nassau "power conference" there are 25 teams in suffolk division 2. On a normal year MT Sinai has to play 14 in conference games, usually the top 14. That leaves 2 open dates! Last year was st a's and CBA. This year it is Wantaugh and CBA! Last year Suffolk AB and C proved to be better than Nassau so the best competition was in their own back yard! Mt. Sinai graduated a dominant group last year including 2 of the top players in the country! It's easy to jump on here and criticize! I don't think anyone expected them to be dominant this year, but they are a good team and that game last night was competitive! It came down to the draw! Whoever was getting it went on a run! Mt Sinai is young and will get better as the season goes on! Let's hope u nassau elitists get over confident like you usually do!

flagging you for excessive use of !!!!!!!!!!...we get the point ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Can you be more clueless? "Mt. Sinai doesn't play real teams?? Don't be ignorant! Contrary to the Nassau "power conference" there are 25 teams in suffolk division 2. On a normal year MT Sinai has to play 14 in conference games, usually the top 14. That leaves 2 open dates! Last year was st a's and CBA. This year it is Wantaugh and CBA! Last year Suffolk AB and C proved to be better than Nassau so the best competition was in their own back yard! Mt. Sinai graduated a dominant group last year including 2 of the top players in the country! It's easy to jump on here and criticize! I don't think anyone expected them to be dominant this year, but they are a good team and that game last night was competitive! It came down to the draw! Whoever was getting it went on a run! Mt Sinai is young and will get better as the season goes on! Let's hope u nassau elitists get over confident like you usually do!

flagging you for excessive use of !!!!!!!!!!...we get the point ...

I arrived early last night and watched the college game that preceded Wantagh vs Mt.Sinai. If you think the head of the Nassau referee's struggles to keep up with high school girls you should have seen him in a college game. You know he will select himself for all of the LI championship games again. Best of luck! Honest question is there a mandatory retirement age for referees?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Can you be more clueless? "Mt. Sinai doesn't play real teams?? Don't be ignorant! Contrary to the Nassau "power conference" there are 25 teams in suffolk division 2. On a normal year MT Sinai has to play 14 in conference games, usually the top 14. That leaves 2 open dates! Last year was st a's and CBA. This year it is Wantaugh and CBA! Last year Suffolk AB and C proved to be better than Nassau so the best competition was in their own back yard! Mt. Sinai graduated a dominant group last year including 2 of the top players in the country! It's easy to jump on here and criticize! I don't think anyone expected them to be dominant this year, but they are a good team and that game last night was competitive! It came down to the draw! Whoever was getting it went on a run! Mt Sinai is young and will get better as the season goes on! Let's hope u nassau elitists get over confident like you usually do!

Don't let some moron get under your skin. You also forgot they play St. Anthony last year so his comment was that of a jealous loser .Honestly Mt.Sinai did not play their best game last night turning the ball over too many times and Wantaugh goalie played well. Many teams have an off night. Lets see Syosset beat CSH, CSH beat Garden City, West Hampton beat Syosset , West Hampton has multiple losses in D2 suffolk, can't take too much away from any 1 game , there are a lot of good teams in Nassau and Suffolk that can beat each other on any night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh 11 Mt Sinai 7

Can you be more clueless? "Mt. Sinai doesn't play real teams?? Don't be ignorant! Contrary to the Nassau "power conference" there are 25 teams in suffolk division 2. On a normal year MT Sinai has to play 14 in conference games, usually the top 14. That leaves 2 open dates! Last year was st a's and CBA. This year it is Wantaugh and CBA! Last year Suffolk AB and C proved to be better than Nassau so the best competition was in their own back yard! Mt. Sinai graduated a dominant group last year including 2 of the top players in the country! It's easy to jump on here and criticize! I don't think anyone expected them to be dominant this year, but they are a good team and that game last night was competitive! It came down to the draw! Whoever was getting it went on a run! Mt Sinai is young and will get better as the season goes on! Let's hope u nassau elitists get over confident like you usually do!

Don't let some moron get under your skin. You also forgot they play St. Anthony last year so his comment was that of a jealous loser .Honestly Mt.Sinai did not play their best game last night turning the ball over too many times and Wantaugh goalie played well. Many teams have an off night. Lets see Syosset beat CSH, CSH beat Garden City, West Hampton beat Syosset , West Hampton has multiple losses in D2 suffolk, can't take too much away from any 1 game , there are a lot of good teams in Nassau and Suffolk that can beat each other on any night.

First, it is spelled Wantagh and they are a good team with senior leadership. Mt Sinai is a young team and it is hard to replace last year's seniors. Yes, the Wantagh goalie played well but no better than the Mt Sinai goalie. She made some point blank saves to keep the score close as well. Always great to see out of conference games like that. I am sure it was a learning experience for both programs. Trust me, both these programs only care about where they finish at the end of the year.

Did the wantagh goalie score 11 goals? Did the wantagh goalie get 75% of the draws? Maybe mt sinai had alot of turnovers because the other team was pretty good. Off night, c'mon...your better than that. If not for mt sinai's goalie, could have been a 15-7 game.

That was a great game last night. Two good teams played hard, Why must everything be an argument. Lets just enjoy good lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except for one girl from CSH all the Nassau point leaders are in low divisions running up points against inferior talent.

This is true but not every coach allows it. If you look at box scores you will see some schools have 10 players score as coaches take starters off instead of allowing complete blowouts. There will always be selfish players but shame on the coaches that allow a blowout

Syosset win was a fluke, so really can't put much into a West Hampton win over them. Csh and Gc two very good teams, both of them would beat West Hampton by 12+ every time they play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington is falling apart from injuries!! we have more downed starters and non starters that we should have at a seasons start. FYI to the coaches....... YOU must use your bench or you will have a full on busted team. You must have trust that the team you compiled can get the job done and not rely on ONE girl to score every goal. Its really humiliating at this point.

sounds like over use injuries..great job parents, way to manage the players health

Good game yesterday between St. A's and Sacred Heart. The Friars never gave up the lead, and were able to take it with a one goal margin. That score has got to be closer than anyone predicted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

take it easy Dad, they are not going to break a sweat playing the #3 team from Jersey. probly be emptying the bench in the first half of that tilt.

St A's not even close to the teams they had in the past

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington is falling apart from injuries!! we have more downed starters and non starters that we should have at a seasons start. FYI to the coaches....... YOU must use your bench or you will have a full on busted team. You must have trust that the team you compiled can get the job done and not rely on ONE girl to score every goal. Its really humiliating at this point.

sounds like over use injuries..great job parents, way to manage the players health

Why? What are the kids at Huntington doing that all the other kids playing HS lax on LI aren't doing? They all play club/travel/town and HS Lax this time of year. How is t the parents fault?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington is falling apart from injuries!! we have more downed starters and non starters that we should have at a seasons start. FYI to the coaches....... YOU must use your bench or you will have a full on busted team. You must have trust that the team you compiled can get the job done and not rely on ONE girl to score every goal. Its really humiliating at this point.

sounds like over use injuries..great job parents, way to manage the players health

Why? What are the kids at Huntington doing that all the other kids playing HS lax on LI aren't doing? They all play club/travel/town and HS Lax this time of year. How is t the parents fault?

hmmm. maybe some rest in the offseason?? I don't know, play another sport? or would these things get in the way of a scholarship and therefore out of the question..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Syosset win was a fluke, so really can't put much into a West Hampton win over them. Csh and Gc two very good teams, both of them would beat West Hampton by 12+ every time they play

That's just such an assimine statement . Why do you Nassau people think your teams are so unbeatable , especially after last year when exactly zero of your teams got off the island .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

take it easy Dad, they are not going to break a sweat playing the #3 team from Jersey. probly be emptying the bench in the first half of that tilt.

Take it easy Dad, I like that. I think some of the LI teams are going to be surprised this weekend by some of the outcomes. LI is far from dominant anymore. It is not as easy anymore just walking on the field and playing subs after halftime. I can assure you Summit, Ridgewood, Oak Knoll and Moorestown are no pushovers and I doubt they will be going home 0 for 4...IMHO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A's not even close to the teams they had in the past

When is the last time they lost to a CHSAA team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

take it easy Dad, they are not going to break a sweat playing the #3 team from Jersey. probly be emptying the bench in the first half of that tilt.

Take it easy Dad, I like that. I think some of the LI teams are going to be surprised this weekend by some of the outcomes. LI is far from dominant anymore. It is not as easy anymore just walking on the field and playing subs after halftime. I can assure you Summit, Ridgewood, Oak Knoll and Moorestown are no pushovers and I doubt they will be going home 0 for 4...IMHO

sorry to poach a line from 8 Mile, but they're about to "get smacked back to the Boondocks". although if they rest the starters that could change things..

Probably a long time ago.

Assimine statement? I'm not talking about nassau v suffolk, the statement was Csh and Gc would beat West Hampton by 12+ every time they played them.

I think they will be some good games LI vs NJ, glad they put these match ups together. Looking forward to a great day of lax and for a great cause also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St A's not even close to the teams they had in the past

When is the last time they lost to a CHSAA team?

The CHSAA has 2 decent teams this year. St Anthony's hasn't been the same since their former coach retired. They are surviving on reputation only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Assimine statement? I'm not talking about nassau v suffolk, the statement was Csh and Gc would beat West Hampton by 12+ every time they played them.

Would they beat Syossett by 12 every time they play them. So yes your statement is ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did the wantagh goalie score 11 goals? Did the wantagh goalie get 75% of the draws? Maybe mt sinai had alot of turnovers because the other team was pretty good. Off night, c'mon...your better than that. If not for mt sinai's goalie, could have been a 15-7 game.

Sounds like a recap of the wantagh , CBA game .

Hey CR and you Northport girls are a bunch of classless players. Oh and number 40 throwing your stick to the sideline when you got your card real classy toI. Not sure if that coach is a man or lady really

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey CR and you Northport girls are a bunch of classless players. Oh and number 40 throwing your stick to the sideline when you got your card real classy toI. Not sure if that coach is a man or lady really

Wow, and you're the one questioning class?

That was the worst sportsmanship I have ever seen

Yikes! Guess they beat west islip???

Well we know you have zero character - not many good people in this world would come on a social media site and make the statement "Not sure if coach is a man or lady really" Your point was almost well taken until you blew it and exposed that your just one of many angry nasty people... By the way - I believe SHE is a lady... incase you really weren't sure.

CR NEVER RECEIVED A YELLOW CARD IN THE GAME NICE TRY

It was a physical game. A little lopsided on the calls. Goalie probably should've gotten a card for a push from behind. Wi couldn't win a draw. Win some lose some. They'll meet again

No MB and KB type talent doesn't help this coach either

CBA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CBA?

Christian Brothers Academy - Syracuse .. I assume .

Your joking WI defense looked like THUGS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CBA?

Christian Brother's Academy Outside of Syracuse

Sportsmanship and CR are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. Does she have the biggest club? Yes. Does she poach? Yes. Do they win some games by a ton and never back off the gas? Yes. Are they known for bending the rules and being the most physical? Yes. Are her parents some of the worst in the game? Yes. Does she charge for everything from extra training camps BBQ's bus trips and everything else to shake down parents? Yes. Does she double dip off her own players with her tournament circuit? Yes. Does she get her kids recruited no matter what? Yes

Sad thing is that many parents ignore the entire list all because of the last point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your joking WI defense looked like THUGS

ok pal. Just because northport girls know how to drop to the ground to get a call.

Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the Suffolk A standings of who would be in the playoffs if they started tomorrow. By power ranking

DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 5-0-0 5-0-0 131.200
Smithtown West 4-0-0 4-0-0 130.000
Middle Country 5-0-0 5-0-0 129.200
Northport 4-0-0 4-0-0 123.000
Patchogue-Medford 4-1-0 4-2-0 122.200
Sachem East 2-3-0 3-3-0 112.000
Ward Melville 2-2-0 2-4-0 111.200
Smithtown East 2-2-0 3-2-0 111.000
Riverhead 3-2-0 3-4-0 108.700
Sachem North 3-2-0 4-3-0 106.600
Bay Shore 3-1-0 4-1-0 105.900

Final Four will be:

West Islip
Middle Country
Northport
Smithtown .... E or W ??

At this point it looks like Smithtown West will be the team from Smithtown. Big game with East next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

SUFFOLK!!
melville, northport, mc, w. islip, smitheast, smithwest

1. West Islip. Over the past two years they are 40 - 4 with a State Championship. Good coaching and a winning attitude will take them far. Strong leadership. Coaches and players expect to win.

2. Middle Country. Will compete but last year might have been their year. 18 - 1 last year and combined 29 - 7 over the past two years. I think they will be in the mix. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulder. Are they hungry after last year?

3. Northport. 24 - 12 over the past two seasons. Coaching and tradition will keep them competitive. Not sure the horses are there to win the county but you never know. Usually play with a lot of attitude and emotion. Combine that with being well prepared for big games and they can surprise.

4/5. Toss up Smithtown East / Smithtown West. West is 24 - 10 while East is
23 - 11. the last two seasons. Not sure either team has the depth to challenge the top teams.

6. Ward Melville. 19 - 14 past two years. Historically will make playoffs and then lose to a team that they had beaten during the year. Better than .500 but can't see them winning.

Not sure if anyone else has a shot. Sachem East?

Good luck to all.

On the money so far.

Playoffs should be interesting but I think in the end it will be :

Northport
Middle Country
West Islip
Smithtown West

Maybe Smithtown East can knock somebody off but I don't see anyone else out there.

Those four teams also have the toughest schedules down the stretch to help prepare them for the playoffs.

I don't know what is more comical. The fact that Northport took a victory lap after the game as if they ended West Islip season. You forget lost 3 games last year and still came away the state champs. So those fake rings that you all were on the bus and then snapped chatted them, I would hold onto those if I were you because those are about the only ones that you're going to get

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sportsmanship and CR are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. Does she have the biggest club? Yes. Does she poach? Yes. Do they win some games by a ton and never back off the gas? Yes. Are they known for bending the rules and being the most physical? Yes. Are her parents some of the worst in the game? Yes. Does she charge for everything from extra training camps BBQ's bus trips and everything else to shake down parents? Yes. Does she double dip off her own players with her tournament circuit? Yes. Does she get her kids recruited no matter what? Yes

Sad thing is that many parents ignore the entire list all because of the last point

Sad thing is you think she poaches players when these kids are leaving their club and coming to YJ because of the last point and they want to be on a top club team that offers all the off season stuff even if at a price.She does not need to poach as the best players want to play YJ.

Wow, someone is bitter...how about you sit back and let the Northport girls enjoy their moment, even if it is just a moment. There are far worse things those girls could be doing than a little celebration of beating a great team on their bus. Chill out. Your life shouldn't be defined by your daughter's lax team.

Not the original poster but here's my take on the situation. The problem with CR is not that she has a winning team or a winning program with yellow jackets. The problem is the way she handles her team. I Northport girls yesterday played with no class. They laughed coming off the field when They got a yellow card Or another one throwing their stick and acting like a poor sport. Your girls obviously have talent but it's overshadowed by their behavior and it's a shame

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sportsmanship and CR are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. Does she have the biggest club? Yes. Does she poach? Yes. Do they win some games by a ton and never back off the gas? Yes. Are they known for bending the rules and being the most physical? Yes. Are her parents some of the worst in the game? Yes. Does she charge for everything from extra training camps BBQ's bus trips and everything else to shake down parents? Yes. Does she double dip off her own players with her tournament circuit? Yes. Does she get her kids recruited no matter what? Yes

Sad thing is that many parents ignore the entire list all because of the last point

Sad thing is you think she poaches players when these kids are leaving their club and coming to YJ because of the last point and they want to be on a top club team that offers all the off season stuff even if at a price.She does not need to poach as the best players want to play YJ.

There is absolutely a history of backroom deals with players and coaches that when executed weaken other clubs. Brilliant business but don't think it doesn't happen. And then she always takes credit for the commit even when the skill was taught elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

take it easy Dad, they are not going to break a sweat playing the #3 team from Jersey. probly be emptying the bench in the first half of that tilt.

Take it easy Dad, I like that. I think some of the LI teams are going to be surprised this weekend by some of the outcomes. LI is far from dominant anymore. It is not as easy anymore just walking on the field and playing subs after halftime. I can assure you Summit, Ridgewood, Oak Knoll and Moorestown are no pushovers and I doubt they will be going home 0 for 4...IMHO

well thanks for the predictions there Jimmy the Greek. but don't wager all your dough on that. you will need lots for toll money back to NJ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

MC has a great team but the best midfielder on LI plays at BBP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

Smithtown West no doubt very very strong team this year. I wouldn't say West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. They returned most of their girls and last year had three losses. They lost one game so far. And Northport Let's face it. Nobody really cares for them LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

MC has a great team but the best midfielder on LI plays at BBP

Typical BBP dad. Gary Gait wannabe

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

MC has a great team but the best midfielder on LI plays at BBP

the best middie is the one with the most points & plays on Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

MC has a great team but the best midfielder on LI plays at BBP

the best middie is the one with the most points & plays on Islip

That's called padding stats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

MC has a great team but the best midfielder on LI plays at BBP

the best middie is the one with the most points & plays on Islip

A player's ability is so much more than numbers. Half of the assists are never recorded for players so stats are always questionable, and field vision, setting picks, communication, off ball movement, leadership....none of those make it into the stats. It's not all about going to goal. That's PAL.

Northport is getting that state title this year so the rest of the teams might as well stop trying now because they will destroy anything that comes in their path:)

northports getting that state title this year all the other teams might as well stop trying. It's been 5 years and it's never felt so good to be back. Rip to all the other teams:(

Originally Posted by Anonymous

northports getting that state title this year all the other teams might as well stop trying. It's been 5 years and it's never felt so good to be back. Rip to all the other teams:(

L. O. L.

daaaamn northport back at it again with the cockiness

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

I agree as I am the poster who originally said she was the best Eddie and I am from Nassau. She does everything well and does not need to score to impact the game. In my opinion the best player from our area.

** Meant Country ^^^^ above

I think North Shore will be the team to beat this year, very athletic and young

Northport goalie should have gotten a card when she crossed checked a west islip player, but the fact is that the refs work for CR all summer and its a conflict of interest that you can see how the calls went against West Islip. I hope these two meet again. Yes, Northport you don't have much class and I am not from either town my daughter plays on another suffolk div 1 team I went to check out the game. The WI coach should share that tape with the head of the officials and see what they missed.

NORTHPORT IS NOT WINNING STATES LMAO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sportsmanship and CR are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. Does she have the biggest club? Yes. Does she poach? Yes. Do they win some games by a ton and never back off the gas? Yes. Are they known for bending the rules and being the most physical? Yes. Are her parents some of the worst in the game? Yes. Does she charge for everything from extra training camps BBQ's bus trips and everything else to shake down parents? Yes. Does she double dip off her own players with her tournament circuit? Yes. Does she get her kids recruited no matter what? Yes

Sad thing is that many parents ignore the entire list all because of the last point

Sad thing is you think she poaches players when these kids are leaving their club and coming to YJ because of the last point and they want to be on a top club team that offers all the off season stuff even if at a price.She does not need to poach as the best players want to play YJ.

There is absolutely a history of backroom deals with players and coaches that when executed weaken other clubs. Brilliant business but don't think it doesn't happen. And then she always takes credit for the commit even when the skill was taught elsewhere

Comments like this are an absolute joke. These people approach her ,she does not approach them. You are obviously talking about the daddy coach who made the deal so his kids would be on the top team because they were not obvious selections for such, they were not poached . The skill comment is such a joke , first if you think its all about the skill and that why they have committed than what club they play for is not relevant, second if you truly believe the club is responsible for teaching these kids their ability you are just a dope.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport goalie should have gotten a card when she crossed checked a west islip player, but the fact is that the refs work for CR all summer and its a conflict of interest that you can see how the calls went against West Islip. I hope these two meet again. Yes, Northport you don't have much class and I am not from either town my daughter plays on another suffolk div 1 team I went to check out the game. The WI coach should share that tape with the head of the officials and see what they missed.

Wah, they play so dirty! Stop it with the I just went to the game. They will win 10 out of 10 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

I guess your daughter isn't on that list, don't be so jealous. It's ugly and it probably impacts your ability to "scout". Lol, a scout, that's the funniest part.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

There are three or four teams who have a realistic chance. Not up for grabs at all, most teams have no chance.

Northport, Smithtown West, Middle Country, West Islip.

Who else has a shot?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

There are three or four teams who have a realistic chance. Not up for grabs at all, most teams have no chance.

Northport, Smithtown West, Middle Country, West Islip.

Who else has a shot?

Copiague

Darien 9- west islip 8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Division I is up for anyone's grab this year. West Islip is nowhere near the team they were last year. Northport always puts out a solid team, Middle Country has the best midfielder in Suffolk County, Smithtown West was strong last year and didn't lose anyone. Anyone's grab

There are three or four teams who have a realistic chance. Not up for grabs at all, most teams have no chance.

Northport, Smithtown West, Middle Country, West Islip.

Who else has a shot?

Copiague [/quote

Seriously?? Why be such a [lacrosse]? At least the Copiague girls are out there trying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think North Shore will be the team to beat this year, very athletic and young

North Shore or Northport?

Northport 12 Sacred Heart 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

Sorry it is a sore topic for you, but you are obviously personally vested thus not able to objectively comment on this. But in reality it really doesn't matter as there are probably 3-4 girls close to her level and maybe your right. But, regardless it is just speculation and subjective speculation at that, as lacrosse is a team sport so we can't line them up 1 on 1.

Whether or not your daughter is one of the top ones, I don't know, maybe she is and good for her, and either way I would bet she probably put a ton of time and effort into the pursuit (just from how passionate you sound). But the scouting thing is kind of funny. But the scouting thing makes you sound a little nerdy kind a like a tool, so maybe you should drop that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think North Shore will be the team to beat this year, very athletic and young

North Shore or Northport?

North Shore, they are quick, transition well and goalie is great

Scores from CSH skied today???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from CSH skied today???

Wantagh 12 - 8 Ridgewood

smackdown!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from CSH skied today???

Wantagh 12 - 8 Ridgewood

smackdown!!!

A 4 goal win is a smack down?? How about BBP winning 16-8? That is a smack down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Scores from CSH skied today???

All close games except for the BBP game. They crushed Yorktown.

Summit over ESM 7-6. ESM held the ball for 12 minutes in the second half playing stall ball. Good game, the better team won.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great to see Wantagh vs Mt Sinai. You should always play tough non league games. I see Wantagh also plays West Islip and Suffern. I also saw they are playing Ridgewood, NJ who might be the best team in NJ this Saturday at Cold Spring Harbor. That is one tough non league slate

take it easy Dad, they are not going to break a sweat playing the #3 team from Jersey. probly be emptying the bench in the first half of that tilt.

Take it easy Dad, I like that. I think some of the LI teams are going to be surprised this weekend by some of the outcomes. LI is far from dominant anymore. It is not as easy anymore just walking on the field and playing subs after halftime. I can assure you Summit, Ridgewood, Oak Knoll and Moorestown are no pushovers and I doubt they will be going home 0 for 4...IMHO

well thanks for the predictions there Jimmy the Greek. but don't wager all your dough on that. you will need lots for toll money back to NJ...

interesting day today...except for Wantagh who pretty easily handled Ridgewood it looks like Garden City beat Moorestown in OT and Summit beat ESM. I saw Oak Knoll beating St Anthony's 8 to 3 at half...not a bad day for NJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sportsmanship and CR are rarely mentioned in the same sentence. Does she have the biggest club? Yes. Does she poach? Yes. Do they win some games by a ton and never back off the gas? Yes. Are they known for bending the rules and being the most physical? Yes. Are her parents some of the worst in the game? Yes. Does she charge for everything from extra training camps BBQ's bus trips and everything else to shake down parents? Yes. Does she double dip off her own players with her tournament circuit? Yes. Does she get her kids recruited no matter what? Yes

Sad thing is that many parents ignore the entire list all because of the last point

So true

St. Anthony's beat Oak Knoll in OT

They are going all the way. Big win today

No stall. ESM possessed the ball and made numerous shots. Defense on the other team was good but unable to get a turnover until 9-10 minutes passed. Give credit to Summits defense because they did a great job. They are the reason they won that game. It was a good game and close until the very end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No stall. ESM possessed the ball and made numerous shots. Defense on the other team was good but unable to get a turnover until 9-10 minutes passed. Give credit to Summits defense because they did a great job. They are the reason they won that game. It was a good game and close until the very end.

It was a great game. Evenly matched teams - Both team's defense played great. Summit held to just 7 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St. Anthony's beat Oak Knoll in OT

Wow, that is great. they were getting dominated in the first half when I had to leave...great comeback

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

I guess your daughter isn't on that list, don't be so jealous. It's ugly and it probably impacts your ability to "scout". Lol, a scout, that's the funniest part.

If you don't think that some teams are out there scouting their competition it just tells me you have no clue. My daughter is in 3rd grade so no she is not the "top middie" in the country but I will tell you I am making sure she can use both hands as I would not want that to be an issue. My point is to nominate someone the best middie in the country is ridiculous , its the same way I feel about the newsday stat leaders thing .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No stall. ESM possessed the ball and made numerous shots. Defense on the other team was good but unable to get a turnover until 9-10 minutes passed. Give credit to Summits defense because they did a great job. They are the reason they won that game. It was a good game and close until the very end.

It was a great game. Evenly matched teams - Both team's defense played great. Summit held to just 7 goals.

And more importantly it was for a great cause. It's really nice to see how teams from other areas match up against each other. Everyone should benefit from a day like this.

Dropped my daughter off at the Schoolgirls tryout and it was packed! First time here, anyone with info on this -who are the evaluators, what do the girls do during the process, how many are selected, and any other info would be greatly appreciated thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think North Shore will be the team to beat this year, very athletic and young

North Shore or Northport?

North Shore, they are quick, transition well and goalie is great

I guess the three losses they have in their division mean nothing and still haven't played Manhasset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are going all the way. Big win today

who is? which win are you talking about?

This goes on in most varsity sports in GC. It's rampant in football baseball and lax on the boys side for just the reasons said here. On the girls side it exists too but Instead of the father/son thing it's the sister and field hockey favorites thing. Its out of control.

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This goes on in most varsity sports in GC. It's rampant in football baseball and lax on the boys side for just the reasons said here. On the girls side it exists too but Instead of the father/son thing it's the sister and field hockey favorites thing. Its out of control.

What are you talking about? Are you responding to a prior post?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

I guess your daughter isn't on that list, don't be so jealous. It's ugly and it probably impacts your ability to "scout". Lol, a scout, that's the funniest part.

If you don't think that some teams are out there scouting their competition it just tells me you have no clue. My daughter is in 3rd grade so no she is not the "top middie" in the country but I will tell you I am making sure she can use both hands as I would not want that to be an issue. My point is to nominate someone the best middie in the country is ridiculous , its the same way I feel about the newsday stat leaders thing .

OK "Scout" they are all great and your third grader is the best! Probably because she reads your scouting reports when she has a few moments free from playing with dress up Barbie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

Whatever her situation is, I do wish her the best and a speedy recovery!

Could someone tell me how an injury might impact a committed player? Is the player obligated to disclose that to the coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not even from BBP, and the Best Midfielder in the County according to USA today's preseason pre-view plays for BBP. I don't think there is a better all around, well rounded, more mature player. Including from a leadership standpoint, an experience standpoint. No slight to any of the the other players out there there are some really great ones, and I would bet that if you polled the top players themselves they would probably overwhelmingly vote for her.

You all really need to get a grip. First off the USA today thing is a political joke . To say anyone is the best midfielder in the country is just pompous and ridiculous. Kid is a great player and so are many others and yes there are some that are her equal.Everything is so subjective that to say anyone of them is the best player is ridiculous. Have played against her and her YJ teammates many times and would tell you that on that team any of 5 kids including the goalie have been the best player on the field that day. I would also be willing to bet that everyone of those kids have just as much of the intangibles you speak of .Have done scouting for our High School team for 10 years plus and have not seen the kid who is the clear best player in any year, they all have weaknesses and there are many who could have the one of the best label so give it a rest.

I guess your daughter isn't on that list, don't be so jealous. It's ugly and it probably impacts your ability to "scout". Lol, a scout, that's the funniest part.

If you don't think that some teams are out there scouting their competition it just tells me you have no clue. My daughter is in 3rd grade so no she is not the "top middie" in the country but I will tell you I am making sure she can use both hands as I would not want that to be an issue. My point is to nominate someone the best middie in the country is ridiculous , its the same way I feel about the newsday stat leaders thing .

OK "Scout" they are all great and your third grader is the best! Probably because she reads your scouting reports when she has a few moments free from playing with dress up Barbie.

Thanks for the snarky response tells me all I need to know about you , internet tuff guy who in person is quiet as a mouse because he knows what that snarky type response would get him in person.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

Whatever her situation is, I do wish her the best and a speedy recovery!

Could someone tell me how an injury might impact a committed player? Is the player obligated to disclose that to the coach?

coaches have dealt with this with many, many kids. And many kids who tore their ACLs in high school are having great careers. Have not heard any story of a coach dropping a kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

You can end the list at MC, nobody after that has any chance

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

Whatever her situation is, I do wish her the best and a speedy recovery!

Could someone tell me how an injury might impact a committed player? Is the player obligated to disclose that to the coach?

coaches have dealt with this with many, many kids. And many kids who tore their ACLs in high school are having great careers. Have not heard any story of a coach dropping a kid.

Quicker to drop if you did it playing another sport

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

Whatever her situation is, I do wish her the best and a speedy recovery!

Could someone tell me how an injury might impact a committed player? Is the player obligated to disclose that to the coach?

coaches have dealt with this with many, many kids. And many kids who tore their ACLs in high school are having great careers. Have not heard any story of a coach dropping a kid.

Quicker to drop if you did it playing another sport

This happened to Shelby F. from Babylon a few years ago, almost identical situation. She was committed to Northwestern. Shelby made a full recovery and maybe even better than before injury. Starting for NW as well.

Any time "Scout". Comical for you to call someone else out when you scout girls lacrosse. Too funny, I'm still laughing at you with your panties in a knot.

My daughter tried out for Long Island School Girls team in Cold Spring Harbor this weekend. She made the first cut. Does anyone have any information about this? I was looking it up online and it looks like there will be three teams chosen. Is it a waste of time if you don't make the first team? How many girls tried out? Are the teams chosen usually competitive in the tournament? Any information about this is appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter tried out for Long Island School Girls team in Cold Spring Harbor this weekend. She made the first cut. Does anyone have any information about this? I was looking it up online and it looks like there will be three teams chosen. Is it a waste of time if you don't make the first team? How many girls tried out? Are the teams chosen usually competitive in the tournament? Any information about this is appreciated.

Not what it used to be, many of the top players do not attend. If your daughter enjoys competing and her schedule is not too full have her play. There is so much lacrosse these days I worry about burnout. If your daughter in not committed and wants to play in college it is worth going. Good event if you have the time and your daughter is not spread to thin.

Good solid advice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time "Scout". Comical for you to call someone else out when you scout girls lacrosse. Too funny, I'm still laughing at you with your panties in a knot.

Again you show your ignorance , you act as if going to watch your competition play is the equal of some loser who comes onto a site anonymously to declare his love for some high school player like you have done .Your obsession with this one kid is a little creepy. That said I will concede so you feel better , the player you speak of is head and shoulders above anyone else including but not limited to the WI, Islip, Sachem East, Mattituck, Garden City, Manhasset, ESM, Wantagh, West Babylon, Smithtown( both east and west) Middle country players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter tried out for Long Island School Girls team in Cold Spring Harbor this weekend. She made the first cut. Does anyone have any information about this? I was looking it up online and it looks like there will be three teams chosen. Is it a waste of time if you don't make the first team? How many girls tried out? Are the teams chosen usually competitive in the tournament? Any information about this is appreciated.

Parents love having their kids on this and all select teams to build their kids resumes and so they can post more pictures on facebook in different uniforms. When anyone can recommend you to tryout money is usually involved

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter tried out for Long Island School Girls team in Cold Spring Harbor this weekend. She made the first cut. Does anyone have any information about this? I was looking it up online and it looks like there will be three teams chosen. Is it a waste of time if you don't make the first team? How many girls tried out? Are the teams chosen usually competitive in the tournament? Any information about this is appreciated.

Not what it used to be, many of the top players do not attend. If your daughter enjoys competing and her schedule is not too full have her play. There is so much lacrosse these days I worry about burnout. If your daughter in not committed and wants to play in college it is worth going. Good event if you have the time and your daughter is not spread to thin.

Heard from others players will be notified by email. Also last year if i remember correctly was posted on Long Island Metropolitan Lacrosse website.

Good solid competition, especially in the top 2 Divisions. LI metro will place 2 teams (1&2) in top division which will compete for the overall championship and team 3 will play in the 2nd division. A lot of coaches, yes, but believe some are there just to watch their recruits as most girls ( all 3 teams from LI) that participate are committed. I believe we were notified about team placement mid week

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

thanks Doc!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter tried out for Long Island School Girls team in Cold Spring Harbor this weekend. She made the first cut. Does anyone have any information about this? I was looking it up online and it looks like there will be three teams chosen. Is it a waste of time if you don't make the first team? How many girls tried out? Are the teams chosen usually competitive in the tournament? Any information about this is appreciated.

Parents love having their kids on this and all select teams to build their kids resumes and so they can post more pictures on facebook in different uniforms. When anyone can recommend you to tryout money is usually involved

It is a great honor to make and play for any of the three LI teams. The completion is really good. this is a must go if picked. no way a money grab, all the costs are reasonable

players on team 1 are usually the same players selected for Under Armour.

we played at Lehigh last year which gave us the opportunity to go watch the NCAA final four games in philly over the same weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true the girl from Oak Knoll tore her ACL at the end of the game? If so, a shame. She played a great game and was a standout.

Heard that is the case but don't want to pass rumors around (heard from a very good source). Great player, maybe the best in NJ as a junior, committed to Stanford. Ranked by Inside Lacrosse as a top 25 soph last year. Scored over 100 goals last year as a sophomore, 50 her freshman year. Really too bad all the way around.

Not a career ender.. many have and do recover close to 100% of prior speed, agility etc.. takes time and hard work..
she will get there..

thanks Doc!

Anytime!

that'll be $200

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time "Scout". Comical for you to call someone else out when you scout girls lacrosse. Too funny, I'm still laughing at you with your panties in a knot.

Again you show your ignorance , you act as if going to watch your competition play is the equal of some loser who comes onto a site anonymously to declare his love for some high school player like you have done .Your obsession with this one kid is a little creepy. That said I will concede so you feel better , the player you speak of is head and shoulders above anyone else including but not limited to the WI, Islip, Sachem East, Mattituck, Garden City, Manhasset, ESM, Wantagh, West Babylon, Smithtown( both east and west) Middle country players.

You said that YOU were a scout. That is creepy. Never addressed any player specifically, just laughing at your assertion that you were advance scouting for the team...and it is so laughable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time "Scout". Comical for you to call someone else out when you scout girls lacrosse. Too funny, I'm still laughing at you with your panties in a knot.

Again you show your ignorance , you act as if going to watch your competition play is the equal of some loser who comes onto a site anonymously to declare his love for some high school player like you have done .Your obsession with this one kid is a little creepy. That said I will concede so you feel better , the player you speak of is head and shoulders above anyone else including but not limited to the WI, Islip, Sachem East, Mattituck, Garden City, Manhasset, ESM, Wantagh, West Babylon, Smithtown( both east and west) Middle country players.

You said that YOU were a scout. That is creepy. Never addressed any player specifically, just laughing at your assertion that you were advance scouting for the team...and it is so laughable.

Again the only thing laughable is your ignorance , would it make you feel better to say I watch other teams games prior to playing them so our team has an idea of what to expect. Sometimes we even give the other teams advance notice that we will be filming them , you probably find that hilarious also. Now stop obsessing over one kid Mr. Creepy.

Smithtown East vs West today, should be a good one. East needs the victory if they want to stay in the hunt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any time "Scout". Comical for you to call someone else out when you scout girls lacrosse. Too funny, I'm still laughing at you with your panties in a knot.

Again you show your ignorance , you act as if going to watch your competition play is the equal of some loser who comes onto a site anonymously to declare his love for some high school player like you have done .Your obsession with this one kid is a little creepy. That said I will concede so you feel better , the player you speak of is head and shoulders above anyone else including but not limited to the WI, Islip, Sachem East, Mattituck, Garden City, Manhasset, ESM, Wantagh, West Babylon, Smithtown( both east and west) Middle country players.

You said that YOU were a scout. That is creepy. Never addressed any player specifically, just laughing at your assertion that you were advance scouting for the team...and it is so laughable.

Again the only thing laughable is your ignorance , would it make you feel better to say I watch other teams games prior to playing them so our team has an idea of what to expect. Sometimes we even give the other teams advance notice that we will be filming them , you probably find that hilarious also. Now stop obsessing over one kid Mr. Creepy.

Even worse you videotape and give advance notice "sometime" In your spare time! Lol. Sleezebag

Even worse you videotape and give advance notice "sometime" In your spare time! Lol. Sleezebag

You are aware only teenage girls and creepy stalkers of teenage girls use the "Lol" abbreviation. I will no longer address your ignorant posts as I fear your obsession with this girl and your need to promote her at all costs is unhealthy at best. Sorry I ever sated that there are many excellent players on long island let alone the nation.Now go take your meds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Smithtown West
Middle Country
Northport
West Islip

Smithtown East is the only other team with a chance to make it to the final four.
At this point Smithtown West has to be the favorite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Smithtown West
Middle Country
Northport
West Islip

Smithtown East is the only other team with a chance to make it to the final four.
At this point Smithtown West has to be the favorite.

Where are these rankings found?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Even worse you videotape and give advance notice "sometime" In your spare time! Lol. Sleezebag

You are aware only teenage girls and creepy stalkers of teenage girls use the "Lol" abbreviation. I will no longer address your ignorant posts as I fear your obsession with this girl and your need to promote her at all costs is unhealthy at best. Sorry I ever sated that there are many excellent players on long island let alone the nation.Now go take your meds.

You promise? Great! Don't forget to take your tripod with you as you disappear. Try not to video at the playland ball pit. When they catch you, the parents will not buy the "advance scout" story you perv.

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Smithtown West
Middle Country
Northport
West Islip

Smithtown East is the only other team with a chance to make it to the final four.
At this point Smithtown West has to be the favorite.

Where are these rankings found?

Section 11

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

You are right it is difficult to gauge at the start of the season who the bottom teams are in the power conference versus the top teams just outside the power conference. However, with that being said Port Washington is probably the best non power conference team right now with Seaford, South Side and maybe Plainedge in the mix.

Port Washington has one loss on the year and it is to Long Beach who is probably the 6th or 7th team in the power conference. Port also beat both Seaford and Plainedge this year. South Side will play Farmingdale later this year and they are probably the 7th team in the power conference. So at this time based upon some small results it looks like they got it fairly right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Smithtown West
Middle Country
Northport
West Islip

Smithtown East is the only other team with a chance to make it to the final four.
At this point Smithtown West has to be the favorite.

No shot for Sayville??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If playoffs started today in Class A Suffolk here is the teams in the mix.

Smithtown West 6-0-0 6-0-0 142.610
West Islip 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.120
Northport 5-0-0 6-0-0 132.660
Middle Country 5-1-0 6-1-0 128.490
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 125.670
Ward Melville 3-2-0 3-4-0 116.000
Smithtown East 3-2-0 4-2-0 114.990
Riverhead 4-2-0 4-4-0 109.070
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.280
Commack HS 2-4-0 4-4-0 104.660
H H Hills 3-2-0 5-2-0 102.860

outside looking in...
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 102.230

Smithtown West
Middle Country
Northport
West Islip

Smithtown East is the only other team with a chance to make it to the final four.
At this point Smithtown West has to be the favorite.

No shot for Sayville??

The conversation is about Suffolk Class A so Sayville doesn't have a shot.

Don't think Sayville has a shot in class B or C either.

All I have to say is,STOP THE FLOP!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

You are right it is difficult to gauge at the start of the season who the bottom teams are in the power conference versus the top teams just outside the power conference. However, with that being said Port Washington is probably the best non power conference team right now with Seaford, South Side and maybe Plainedge in the mix.

Port Washington has one loss on the year and it is to Long Beach who is probably the 6th or 7th team in the power conference. Port also beat both Seaford and Plainedge this year. South Side will play Farmingdale later this year and they are probably the 7th team in the power conference. So at this time based upon some small results it looks like they got it fairly right.

They may have got the power conference pretty close but after that it is a joke. PW, SS, Plainedge, Seaford, Lynbrook and maybe Oyster Bay should play in a conference with Massapequa and Oceanside.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

You are right it is difficult to gauge at the start of the season who the bottom teams are in the power conference versus the top teams just outside the power conference. However, with that being said Port Washington is probably the best non power conference team right now with Seaford, South Side and maybe Plainedge in the mix.

Port Washington has one loss on the year and it is to Long Beach who is probably the 6th or 7th team in the power conference. Port also beat both Seaford and Plainedge this year. South Side will play Farmingdale later this year and they are probably the 7th team in the power conference. So at this time based upon some small results it looks like they got it fairly right.

Look at the stat leaders except for the CSH player all the rest are from low divisions teams that are beating up on people. Get stats in the power conference and it means something

The only reason they do not have a shot in A is because they are not in the A division.

Look at some teams Sayville has lost to. Some of their losses are to teams that have NO SHOT. Where do you think that leaves them.

That and they are not very good this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That and they are not very good this year.

Just wait till 2021 when they have girls with 6 years of varsity experience! How's that working out this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

You are right it is difficult to gauge at the start of the season who the bottom teams are in the power conference versus the top teams just outside the power conference. However, with that being said Port Washington is probably the best non power conference team right now with Seaford, South Side and maybe Plainedge in the mix.

Port Washington has one loss on the year and it is to Long Beach who is probably the 6th or 7th team in the power conference. Port also beat both Seaford and Plainedge this year. South Side will play Farmingdale later this year and they are probably the 7th team in the power conference. So at this time based upon some small results it looks like they got it fairly right.

Look at the stat leaders except for the CSH player all the rest are from low divisions teams that are beating up on people. Get stats in the power conference and it means something

Agreed, and having seen some of these games there are a few teams that have girls who have no idea what the word pass means-its go to the goal regardless of who is open, and the majority of the time they miss the cage. Coach allows it, not helping to develop the game and everyone looks silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Nassau power conference is great but when you look at the next teams that should have been in the power conference they are beating people up by 10 every game. How does that help them when everyone is reclassified for playoffs?

You are right it is difficult to gauge at the start of the season who the bottom teams are in the power conference versus the top teams just outside the power conference. However, with that being said Port Washington is probably the best non power conference team right now with Seaford, South Side and maybe Plainedge in the mix.

Port Washington has one loss on the year and it is to Long Beach who is probably the 6th or 7th team in the power conference. Port also beat both Seaford and Plainedge this year. South Side will play Farmingdale later this year and they are probably the 7th team in the power conference. So at this time based upon some small results it looks like they got it fairly right.

They may have got the power conference pretty close but after that it is a joke. PW, SS, Plainedge, Seaford, Lynbrook and maybe Oyster Bay should play in a conference with Massapequa and Oceanside.

Port Washington is probably the best of the rest right now...they will get their chance in the "A" playoffs. If they belong in the power conference they will win the "A"'s or at least make the finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That and they are not very good this year.

Just wait till 2021 when they have girls with 6 years of varsity experience! How's that working out this year?

She'll be expelled or rebelled against by then. Can't continue to behave the way she does and continue to get away with it. Even girls on her travel team are not surprised considering the way she marginalizes many of her teammates there as well. Major attitude adjustment needed. And parents play like they are so nice at the events.

Huntington went from one of the best to maybe the worst in one year. Unbelievable letdowns. Almost unwatchable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington went from one of the best to maybe the worst in one year. Unbelievable letdowns. Almost unwatchable.

Maybe last years coach wasn't so bad after all?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That and they are not very good this year.

Just wait till 2021 when they have girls with 6 years of varsity experience! How's that working out this year?

She'll be expelled or rebelled against by then. Can't continue to behave the way she does and continue to get away with it. Even girls on her travel team are not surprised considering the way she marginalizes many of her teammates there as well. Major attitude adjustment needed. And parents play like they are so nice at the events.

Been watching you go on and on with this topic and can't figure out which is more disturbing, your inability to stop singling out a specific 12 year old girl over and over, or your apparent obsession with her parents. Either way, pull up your pants, your ugly is showing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington went from one of the best to maybe the worst in one year. Unbelievable letdowns. Almost unwatchable.

Not sure how you don't win a playoff game in 5 years you are one of the best? they certainly had the talents. Recruits are playing and contributing at a variety of d 1 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington went from one of the best to maybe the worst in one year. Unbelievable letdowns. Almost unwatchable.

Not sure how you don't win a playoff game in 5 years you are one of the best? they certainly had the talents. Recruits are playing and contributing at a variety of d 1 schools.

Its all new kids and talent is cyclical depends on the year

Suffolk Class A teams in playoffs if they started today.

Smithtown West 7-0-0 7-0-0 147.380
West Islip 6-1-0 6-1-0 140.670
Northport 6-0-0 7-0-0 135.540
Middle Country 6-1-0 7-1-0 131.620
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 123.150
Ward Melville 4-2-0 4-4-0 117.200
Smithtown East 3-3-0 4-3-0 113.330
H H Hills 5-2-0 7-2-0 111.730
Riverhead 4-3-0 4-5-0 105.970
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.720
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 104.440

outside looking in....
North Babylon 2-3-0 3-4-0 103.760

Emails for School Girls went out. Do we know if rosters will be published?

didn't wi lose twice already

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Emails for School Girls went out. Do we know if rosters will be published?

Don't want to hurt feelings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

didn't wi lose twice already

Yes they lost a nonleague game in a charity event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Emails for School Girls went out. Do we know if rosters will be published?

Congratulations to all of the girls selected for a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A teams in playoffs if they started today.

Smithtown West 7-0-0 7-0-0 147.380
West Islip 6-1-0 6-1-0 140.670
Northport 6-0-0 7-0-0 135.540
Middle Country 6-1-0 7-1-0 131.620
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 123.150
Ward Melville 4-2-0 4-4-0 117.200
Smithtown East 3-3-0 4-3-0 113.330
H H Hills 5-2-0 7-2-0 111.730
Riverhead 4-3-0 4-5-0 105.970
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.720
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 104.440

outside looking in....
North Babylon 2-3-0 3-4-0 103.760

the top 4 teams are beating each other up should be interesting

So west islip handed smithtown west their first loss today.

So, I need to call out Sacred Heart for dirty play. Playing St. Johns yesterday they took out one of our better players with slash to the face which needed stitches. Heard later on they also took out Kellenberg's best player two weeks ago with a cross check to the neck. Yellow cards get issued but the damage is done, and they go on to win the game against teams who are now without their strongest players. Once may be an accident, but twice is a pattern. Is that really how you want to win Sacred Heart? Win on your merits not by, literally, knocking out good players from games. Is it really worth that? Our player will now have a scar on her face because you can't play clean. Blame the SHA coaches for coaching them to do this, refs for letting it get out of hand , and certainly varsity players who should know better.

Northport goes down too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport goes down too.

Things are gettin interesting now

i am so happy north port lost did

NP is not that good and they go down relax pal

First and most important, I hope the child is ok.

Wow this parent accusing sacred heart of slashing a player is crazy. It was a good competitive game. Sacred heart only won by one and the remaining girls played well together. Only a parent of the injured girl would assume she was singled out and that she made all the difference. Lax is a team sport.

St Johns lax team is NG

Northport didnt have one of their studs today she will be back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

St Johns lax team is NG

Such a stupid comment. What does that have to do with the conversation? A girl was injured. It seems there's pattern that SHA plays dirty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First and most important, I hope the child is ok.

Wow this parent accusing sacred heart of slashing a player is crazy. It was a good competitive game. Sacred heart only won by one and the remaining girls played well together. Only a parent of the injured girl would assume she was singled out and that she made all the difference. Lax is a team sport.

your point actually supports the original poster. Maybe the game was so close that SHA felt the need to resort to this. They won by one goal only after a talented player was knocked out of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First and most important, I hope the child is ok.

Wow this parent accusing sacred heart of slashing a player is crazy. It was a good competitive game. Sacred heart only won by one and the remaining girls played well together. Only a parent of the injured girl would assume she was singled out and that she made all the difference. Lax is a team sport.

your point actually supports the original poster. Maybe the game was so close that SHA felt the need to resort to this. They won by one goal only after a talented player was knocked out of the game.

Refs are horrible in handing out reds and the sport should go to cumulative fouls and you are out of game like basketball. Northport and YJ's are infamous for turning out hatchet players. Start throwing them out of games and stop the endless whistles

Best player, good player, ok dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Northport didnt have one of their studs today she will be back

If they are such a good team one player being there or not being there should not matter unless their success rides on the back of this one particular "stud".

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A teams in playoffs if they started today.

Smithtown West 7-0-0 7-0-0 147.380
West Islip 6-1-0 6-1-0 140.670
Northport 6-0-0 7-0-0 135.540
Middle Country 6-1-0 7-1-0 131.620
Patchogue-Medford 5-1-0 5-2-0 123.150
Ward Melville 4-2-0 4-4-0 117.200
Smithtown East 3-3-0 4-3-0 113.330
H H Hills 5-2-0 7-2-0 111.730
Riverhead 4-3-0 4-5-0 105.970
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 105.720
Sachem North 3-3-0 4-4-0 104.440

outside looking in....
North Babylon 2-3-0 3-4-0 103.760

the top 4 teams are beating each other up should be interesting

Suffolk really needs to go to some sort of power conference (like nassau)

West Islip, Northport, Middle Country, Smithtown East, Smithtown West, Mt. Sinai, BBP, ESM all would be a good start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

There was one last year (and previous years). Not sure why the decision was made to lump all the teams not in power conference into A, B, C. Dumb!!! Those teams deserve better.

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

True. I was involved in a basketball forum for a while and those heavy hitters went to every game they could, happily reported back on the forum, and were not villified. In fact, people looked for their opinions on future matchups because these guys (women? IDK) had seen all the teams in action.

Suffolk Class A playoff picture.

West Islip 7-1-0 7-1-0 149.340
Smithtown West 7-1-0 7-1-0 144.040
Middle Country 7-1-0 8-1-0 140.470
Northport 6-1-0 7-1-0 132.680
Patchogue-Medford 5-2-0 5-3-0 116.610
Ward Melville 4-2-0 4-4-0 116.250
Smithtown East 3-3-0 4-3-0 114.110
North Babylon 3-3-0 4-4-0 113.390
H H Hills 5-2-0 7-2-0 111.610
Sachem North 4-3-0 5-4-0 108.590
Riverhead 5-3-0 5-5-0 107.220

Knocking on the door...
Sachem East 2-4-0 3-4-0 102.680
Commack HS 2-5-0 4-5-0 100.110
Bay Shore 4-3-0 5-3-0 98.950

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

How many goals will leading scorer in Long Island get today against one of the weakest team in Suffolk, besides Copaigue. And her team will not make playoffs with a weak schedule. way to go coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many goals will leading scorer in Long Island get today against one of the weakest team in Suffolk, besides Copaigue. And her team will not make playoffs with a weak schedule. way to go coach

game is decided before they get off the bus but I am guessing at least 4 of the first 6 goals and ten lets see what coach AND the player does. its all about padding the stats for her college bio

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

Agreed and perfectly stated. People are so quick to judge. Moderators, is there any way to post this on the Boys HS Thread and the Chaminade thread where I believe this was also an issue where ppl were torn apart for being fans/spectators at the games and reported back on a game or two.

Why dont you simply copy and paste and post it where you believe it belongs?

Went to CSH V. Wantagh game yesterday. Great game. Wantagh might have the best middies on the island. Number 34 is outstanding and 18 is huge with speed an a great defender. Enjoyed the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Went to CSH V. Wantagh game yesterday. Great game. Wantagh might have the best middies on the island. Number 34 is outstanding and 18 is huge with speed an a great defender. Enjoyed the game

And both teams playing a monster schedule, good for them!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

Agreed and perfectly stated. People are so quick to judge. Moderators, is there any way to post this on the Boys HS Thread and the Chaminade thread where I believe this was also an issue where ppl were torn apart for being fans/spectators at the games and reported back on a game or two.

I understand the point but there was also a point to those responding - if you were at Staples last week it was for a reason. Not just a weekend drive as a spectator to see a game. I am all for seeing a game that is nearbye, but the travel and traffic to staples is a bit much for just watching a game as a fan.

north port coaches and players are classless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

Agreed and perfectly stated. People are so quick to judge. Moderators, is there any way to post this on the Boys HS Thread and the Chaminade thread where I believe this was also an issue where ppl were torn apart for being fans/spectators at the games and reported back on a game or two.

I understand the point but there was also a point to those responding - if you were at Staples last week it was for a reason. Not just a weekend drive as a spectator to see a game. I am all for seeing a game that is nearbye, but the travel and traffic to staples is a bit much for just watching a game as a fan.

If someone has the time, and doesn't mind dealing with the traffic who are you to say it's too far, who made you the authority on how far someone els is allowed to travel to do anything. You are the problem with the sport. Why don't you tell us who your son or daughter is and we all will make sure we never go out of our way to see them.

What is the Class B stats looking like??

Anyone have a rundown on whos on top ? and whos not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

north port coaches and players are classless

What did they do this time ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the Class B stats looking like??

Anyone have a rundown on whos on top ? and whos not?

Not sure if this is correct because I cant find the Class B / C breakdowns. so I am going with last years info.

Class B
Eastport/SManor 7-2-0 7-3-0 147.570
Harborfields 6-2-0 7-3-0 137.650
Rocky Point 5-2-0 7-2-0 133.970
Westhampton 4-4-0 6-4-0 129.170
West Babylon 4-4-0 5-4-0 121.940
Miller Place 5-3-0 6-4-0 121.060
Comsewogue 4-5-0 4-5-0 113.770
Islip 5-4-0 6-5-0 113.250

Outside looking in....
Huntington 2-6-0 2-7-0 107.670
Deer Park 5-3-0 6-4-0 106.900

Class C

Bayport-Blue Pt 8-0-0 9-0-0 176.170
Mt Sinai 7-1-0 7-2-0 153.980
Shoreham WR 7-1-0 7-1-0 144.900
Matt/Gpt/Shld 4-3-0 5-3-0 131.180
Babylon 5-3-0 7-3-0 127.640

outside looking in.....
Elwood/J Glenn 4-5-0 5-6-0 90.040
Center Moriches 3-6-0 3-8-0 76.670

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I may rant for a minuet. Recently, on both the boys and girls high school threads, I have seen comments to people {being anonymous we don't know the ages or profession of anyone} about attending H.S. games. In some situations an attendee either didn't have a child on either team, or stayed at a tournament longer than some felt appropriate to watch other teams play, or traveled a distance some would see as too far, or voided a game for "scouting" purposes. These people were vilified by others, and even called derogatory names for watching a sport the love. Why is it only lacrosse parents do this. If someone went to watch a football game, or a basketball game between two good teams no one would care or say a word. Who are these parents to hijack a public sporting event and slander people for loving a sport. Are they the same people that complain that Lacrosse isn't popular enough and should receive more attention, while excluding anyone without a direct interest in any particular game. Shame on you for calling someone a "perv" or a "loser" for watching a game they love. I bet you're the same person making March Madness brackets at your office, does that also make you a
"perv" or a "loser" for watching that sport with no child involved. Maybe if we welcomed people into watch our children play the sport we all love it will grow and become bigger, instead of pointing fingers at people and calling fans names.

Agreed and perfectly stated. People are so quick to judge. Moderators, is there any way to post this on the Boys HS Thread and the Chaminade thread where I believe this was also an issue where ppl were torn apart for being fans/spectators at the games and reported back on a game or two.

I understand the point but there was also a point to those responding - if you were at Staples last week it was for a reason. Not just a weekend drive as a spectator to see a game. I am all for seeing a game that is nearbye, but the travel and traffic to staples is a bit much for just watching a game as a fan.

If someone has the time, and doesn't mind dealing with the traffic who are you to say it's too far, who made you the authority on how far someone els is allowed to travel to do anything. You are the problem with the sport. Why don't you tell us who your son or daughter is and we all will make sure we never go out of our way to see them.

I don't care if you go to games... I stated I understood your point... I just thought for this instance I'm calling BS; The poster didn't happen to be there. There was a reason... For some reason they didn't fess up to it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

Stop with your super conference non-sense
Wantagh 7 0 0 10 1 0
Manhasset 5 0 0 7 0 0
Garden City 4 1 0 8 1 0
Cold Spring Harbor 4 2 0 7 3 0
Long Beach 3 4 0 5 5 0
North Shore 2 3 0 5 3 0
Massapequa 2 4 0 3 6 0
Farmingdale 2 5 0 4 6 0
Syosset 1 5 0 2 6 0
Oceanside 0 6 0 4 6 0

Top 4 are cream of the crop the remainder of the division is no better than Port Washington, South Side, Plainedge, Lynbrook, Seaford and maybe Oyster Bay and Mac Arthur. Any given year the remaining six "super conference" schools and those that I have just mentioned are all on par with each other. Farmingdale hasn't been a power in years in Nassau they play in the weakest (A) of the A B and C schools when comes to playoffs that's a fact. Wantagh, GC, Manhassett and CSH are a cut above all. Exclude those 4 and than look at the scores of the remaining 6 and the teams that I have mentioned any given winner and day fact.TW from Fdale would like to have all of you believe otherwise. So in a nut shell those schools out of the "super conference" play who they are scheduled against and hopefully the school or coach schedules tougher out of conference games. So to make the Newsday comment is uncalled for, there a multitude of good teams with some very talented players on them doing what they do. You see Spallina pulling Murphy out of the game against UMass Lowell "you play who is in front of you". Have at it folks, cant wait for the replies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

Stop with your super conference non-sense
Wantagh 7 0 0 10 1 0
Manhasset 5 0 0 7 0 0
Garden City 4 1 0 8 1 0
Cold Spring Harbor 4 2 0 7 3 0
Long Beach 3 4 0 5 5 0
North Shore 2 3 0 5 3 0
Massapequa 2 4 0 3 6 0
Farmingdale 2 5 0 4 6 0
Syosset 1 5 0 2 6 0
Oceanside 0 6 0 4 6 0

Top 4 are cream of the crop the remainder of the division is no better than Port Washington, South Side, Plainedge, Lynbrook, Seaford and maybe Oyster Bay and Mac Arthur. Any given year the remaining six "super conference" schools and those that I have just mentioned are all on par with each other. Farmingdale hasn't been a power in years in Nassau they play in the weakest (A) of the A B and C schools when comes to playoffs that's a fact. Wantagh, GC, Manhassett and CSH are a cut above all. Exclude those 4 and than look at the scores of the remaining 6 and the teams that I have mentioned any given winner and day fact.TW from Fdale would like to have all of you believe otherwise. So in a nut shell those schools out of the "super conference" play who they are scheduled against and hopefully the school or coach schedules tougher out of conference games. So to make the Newsday comment is uncalled for, there a multitude of good teams with some very talented players on them doing what they do. You see Spallina pulling Murphy out of the game against UMass Lowell "you play who is in front of you". Have at it folks, cant wait for the replies.

This crap is better than Ambian.

Wantagh was beating West Islip 9 to 5 with about a minute in the game when I left

Bad sportsmanship and grabbing easy points is a joke at any level even with great coaches like spalina and rose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wantagh was beating West Islip 9 to 5 with about a minute in the game when I left

Wantagh played a great game. WI parent

What is with Connetquot JV showing up to play with only 10 kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

Stop with your super conference non-sense
Wantagh 7 0 0 10 1 0
Manhasset 5 0 0 7 0 0
Garden City 4 1 0 8 1 0
Cold Spring Harbor 4 2 0 7 3 0
Long Beach 3 4 0 5 5 0
North Shore 2 3 0 5 3 0
Massapequa 2 4 0 3 6 0
Farmingdale 2 5 0 4 6 0
Syosset 1 5 0 2 6 0
Oceanside 0 6 0 4 6 0

Top 4 are cream of the crop the remainder of the division is no better than Port Washington, South Side, Plainedge, Lynbrook, Seaford and maybe Oyster Bay and Mac Arthur. Any given year the remaining six "super conference" schools and those that I have just mentioned are all on par with each other. Farmingdale hasn't been a power in years in Nassau they play in the weakest (A) of the A B and C schools when comes to playoffs that's a fact. Wantagh, GC, Manhassett and CSH are a cut above all. Exclude those 4 and than look at the scores of the remaining 6 and the teams that I have mentioned any given winner and day fact.TW from Fdale would like to have all of you believe otherwise. So in a nut shell those schools out of the "super conference" play who they are scheduled against and hopefully the school or coach schedules tougher out of conference games. So to make the Newsday comment is uncalled for, there a multitude of good teams with some very talented players on them doing what they do. You see Spallina pulling Murphy out of the game against UMass Lowell "you play who is in front of you". Have at it folks, cant wait for the replies.

And keep in mind not every coach allows starters to stay in and run up the score! It's clear that many do but some coaches actually put their 2nd and third string in when up by 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

Stop with your super conference non-sense
Wantagh 7 0 0 10 1 0
Manhasset 5 0 0 7 0 0
Garden City 4 1 0 8 1 0
Cold Spring Harbor 4 2 0 7 3 0
Long Beach 3 4 0 5 5 0
North Shore 2 3 0 5 3 0
Massapequa 2 4 0 3 6 0
Farmingdale 2 5 0 4 6 0
Syosset 1 5 0 2 6 0
Oceanside 0 6 0 4 6 0

Top 4 are cream of the crop the remainder of the division is no better than Port Washington, South Side, Plainedge, Lynbrook, Seaford and maybe Oyster Bay and Mac Arthur. Any given year the remaining six "super conference" schools and those that I have just mentioned are all on par with each other. Farmingdale hasn't been a power in years in Nassau they play in the weakest (A) of the A B and C schools when comes to playoffs that's a fact. Wantagh, GC, Manhassett and CSH are a cut above all. Exclude those 4 and than look at the scores of the remaining 6 and the teams that I have mentioned any given winner and day fact.TW from Fdale would like to have all of you believe otherwise. So in a nut shell those schools out of the "super conference" play who they are scheduled against and hopefully the school or coach schedules tougher out of conference games. So to make the Newsday comment is uncalled for, there a multitude of good teams with some very talented players on them doing what they do. You see Spallina pulling Murphy out of the game against UMass Lowell "you play who is in front of you". Have at it folks, cant wait for the replies.

And keep in mind not every coach allows starters to stay in and run up the score! It's clear that many do but some coaches actually put their 2nd and third string in when up by 10

So the coach who is down by 10 but has one of those players with 8 or so points should pull that player also..... my point damn if you do damn if you don't, this argument can go either way....

Many of these high school coaches need to have their heads examined. Leaving girls in during a blowout is counterproductive. Less experienced girls could be playing and getting quality game time experience. Girls that have nagging injuries should be taken out when games are out of hand. Maybe even sit a player with an injury when you're playing a team you know you will beat. Too many teams around the island are playing their best players full games for no other reason then to pad stats. Same goes for girls on the losing side of a blowout. If your best player has 8 goals and you're down 10, why play her anymore? You're not going to catch up and you can have other girls get some experience. You don't have to be a coach to see that things need to change at the high school level. There are no scouts coming to any of these games. College coaches do not care that your daughter got 9 goals against the worst team in your division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great league game CSH v Wantagh, Great scheduling of non league Manhasset v St Anthony, GC smoked Syosset, Pequa bounced back against OS but the teams on outside looking in to the super conference continue to beat people up Division +10, Lynbrook by 9, Plainedge by 10, SS by 12 somehow there needs to be a super conference B league

I don't think you will find a super B league is the right move. If you look at last year's B playoffs you will see teams like Division, Plainedge...etc. get beaten by 10+ goals by the power conference B teams and they had good records coming into the playoffs. I agree on the A teams..it is by far the weakest conference in Nassau County. The C's are even weaker except for CSH, who will walk to the county title yet again.

Leave the super conference alone but put the next group into the next division at least for the regular season. Let SS and Plainedge, Divison Lynbrook and others battle during the season. These games of winning by 15 just so you can get your name in newsday is a waste especially when they will be unprepared to play a Wantagh, Sett or GC in the 1st or 2nd round come playoff time. CSH could play their 3rd stringers in the C playoffs and still win because they have played a wicked regular season schedule

Stop with your super conference non-sense
Wantagh 7 0 0 10 1 0
Manhasset 5 0 0 7 0 0
Garden City 4 1 0 8 1 0
Cold Spring Harbor 4 2 0 7 3 0
Long Beach 3 4 0 5 5 0
North Shore 2 3 0 5 3 0
Massapequa 2 4 0 3 6 0
Farmingdale 2 5 0 4 6 0
Syosset 1 5 0 2 6 0
Oceanside 0 6 0 4 6 0

Top 4 are cream of the crop the remainder of the division is no better than Port Washington, South Side, Plainedge, Lynbrook, Seaford and maybe Oyster Bay and Mac Arthur. Any given year the remaining six "super conference" schools and those that I have just mentioned are all on par with each other. Farmingdale hasn't been a power in years in Nassau they play in the weakest (A) of the A B and C schools when comes to playoffs that's a fact. Wantagh, GC, Manhassett and CSH are a cut above all. Exclude those 4 and than look at the scores of the remaining 6 and the teams that I have mentioned any given winner and day fact.TW from Fdale would like to have all of you believe otherwise. So in a nut shell those schools out of the "super conference" play who they are scheduled against and hopefully the school or coach schedules tougher out of conference games. So to make the Newsday comment is uncalled for, there a multitude of good teams with some very talented players on them doing what they do. You see Spallina pulling Murphy out of the game against UMass Lowell "you play who is in front of you". Have at it folks, cant wait for the replies.

And keep in mind not every coach allows starters to stay in and run up the score! It's clear that many do but some coaches actually put their 2nd and third string in when up by 10

So the coach who is down by 10 but has one of those players with 8 or so points should pull that player also..... my point damn if you do damn if you don't, this argument can go either way....

Very rare to be down by 10 but have a kid w 8 points so that seems like a silly point.

If you are down by 10 and 1 girl has 8, it's probably because the coach has supported a one man team which is easy to defend and that's why you are down by 10. Team game folks, nobody cares that your kid is in Newsday except you

Very rare to be down by 10 but have a kid w 8 points so that seems like a silly point. [/quote]

Sounds like he was making a good point to me, maybe slightly exaggerated , but last couple years similar situations to this were happening at Islip, W Bab, E Islip etc.....

Yea our district its a battle between 3- 4 girls to shove the ball in the cage to get those Stats. Regardless if the coaches pet forces the ball numerous amounts of time and other girls are literally wide open ALONE by the crease , most good teams know the System of who's who , and make sure that ball hogging stat grabbing player gets shut down , Just think for once if the coach actually had a set of balls and made some changes on how that superstar moves the ball other then her few side kicks.. He would actually have a Great team not an inconsistent one !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are down by 10 and 1 girl has 8, it's probably because the coach has supported a one man team which is easy to defend and that's why you are down by 10. Team game folks, nobody cares that your kid is in Newsday except you

Doesn't all county go to the girl with the most points, or if it's a tie the senior? Do yellow cards play into the selection? Do other coaches have a say or is it fixed? Also who decides on All American? Are the recipients all from top teams and does it depend on record? Sorry for so many questions but figured I would ask the experts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea our district its a battle between 3- 4 girls to shove the ball in the cage to get those Stats. Regardless if the coaches pet forces the ball numerous amounts of time and other girls are literally wide open ALONE by the crease , most good teams know the System of who's who , and make sure that ball hogging stat grabbing player gets shut down , Just think for once if the coach actually had a set of balls and made some changes on how that superstar moves the ball other then her few side kicks.. He would actually have a Great team not an inconsistent one !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are down by 10 and 1 girl has 8, it's probably because the coach has supported a one man team which is easy to defend and that's why you are down by 10. Team game folks, nobody cares that your kid is in Newsday except you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very rare to be down by 10 but have a kid w 8 points so that seems like a silly point.

Sounds like he was making a good point to me, maybe slightly exaggerated , but last couple years similar situations to this were happening at Islip, W Bab, E Islip etc.....[/quote]
I'm she first of all, and thank you that was exactly the point I was trying to make not every team has a team of "lacrosse players" some teams have kids who just play to play...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't all county go to the girl with the most points, or if it's a tie the senior? Do yellow cards play into the selection? Do other coaches have a say or is it fixed? Also who decides on All American? Are the recipients all from top teams and does it depend on record? Sorry for so many questions but figured I would ask the experts.

The number and level of the end of the year awards:
All County, All League,are first based on team W/L record (if your team stinks, you're not making all county no matter how good you are)
second criteria would be how much weight does your team's coach have in the coaches association (a long term coaches, who have won county and state titles, have a greater say on who gets what and do more for their players than the math teacher who coaches the girls lax team for a few seasons)

How the mighty have fallen, The traditional powerhouse D1 teams of Farmingdale, Massapequa, Syosset and Oceanside have fallen to the bottom of the division (Farmingdale is the most surprising) while the old D2/B schools Wantagh, Manhasset, GC and D3/C CSH are doing great.

You must have watched the west babylon mercy game also

You obviously have no clue. When were Massapequa, Syosset and Oceanside considered traditional girls powerhouse teams? Manhasset, GC and CSH are your more traditional powerhouse teams and continue to excel. True about Farmingdale....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't all county go to the girl with the most points, or if it's a tie the senior? Do yellow cards play into the selection? Do other coaches have a say or is it fixed? Also who decides on All American? Are the recipients all from top teams and does it depend on record? Sorry for so many questions but figured I would ask the experts.

The number and level of the end of the year awards:
All County, All League,are first based on team W/L record (if your team stinks, you're not making all county no matter how good you are)
second criteria would be how much weight does your team's coach have in the coaches association (a long term coaches, who have won county and state titles, have a greater say on who gets what and do more for their players than the math teacher who coaches the girls lax team for a few seasons)

Don't get your hopes up.. Sometimes a player who isn't even "deserved" on their own team by their own teammates wins a county award bizarre and political. and don't forget when a family member is a coach, AD or the cockamamie position of Athletic Chair.

Good game for Sachem North against West Islip!

CSH can play there 3rd string in the Nassau County final and win, then they will play Bayport or Mt Sinai in the LI final and get the living crap kicked out of there 1st , 2nd and 3rd string. just saying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good game for Sachem North against West Islip!

It was a good game. Goal for goal pretty much

Suffolk A playoff picture

West Islip 8-1-0 8-2-0 155.030
Smithtown West 8-1-0 8-2-0 151.140
Middle Country 8-1-0 10-1-0 142.940
Northport 7-1-0 8-1-0 137.770
Smithtown East 6-3-0 7-3-0 128.080
Ward Melville 6-2-0 6-4-0 125.410
Sachem North 6-4-0 7-5-0 118.010
H H Hills 5-3-0 7-3-0 110.690
North Babylon 3-5-0 4-6-0 106.840
Riverhead 5-3-0 5-5-0 105.620
Patchogue-Medford 5-4-0 5-5-0 103.360

Outside looking in....
Sachem East 3-6-0 4-6-0 102.250
Commack HS 3-6-0 5-6-0 100.830

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH can play there 3rd string in the Nassau County final and win, then they will play Bayport or Mt Sinai in the LI final and get the living crap kicked out of there 1st , 2nd and 3rd string. just saying

Stupid people who don't understand the difference between "there", "their", and "they're" make me laugh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH can play there 3rd string in the Nassau County final and win, then they will play Bayport or Mt Sinai in the LI final and get the living crap kicked out of there 1st , 2nd and 3rd string. just saying

Stupid people who don't understand the difference between "there", "their", and "they're" make me laugh.

Just like CSH got the crap kicked out of them by Mt Sinai in 4 OT's in last year's LI final. I wouldn't call it a lock as of yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH can play there 3rd string in the Nassau County final and win, then they will play Bayport or Mt Sinai in the LI final and get the living crap kicked out of there 1st , 2nd and 3rd string. just saying

Stupid people who don't understand the difference between "there", "their", and "they're" make me laugh.

Just like CSH got the crap kicked out of them by Mt Sinai in 4 OT's in last year's LI final. I wouldn't call it a lock as of yet.

Neither of them is beating Bayport so don't argue about it.

Suffolk B playoff picture

Eastport/SManor 7-3-0 8-4-0 148.220
Rocky Point 7-3-0 9-3-0 146.330
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-4-0 141.000
Westhampton 5-5-0 7-5-0 127.830
Miller Place 7-3-0 8-4-0 127.530
West Babylon 5-5-0 6-5-0 118.220
Islip 6-4-0 7-5-0 114.670
Huntington 3-6-0 3-7-0 112.740

outside looking in....
Comsewogue 4-6-0 4-6-0 109.220
Kings Park 6-4-0 7-5-0 105.280
Deer Park 5-4-0 6-5-0 103.840
Hauppauge 4-5-0 5-6-0 103.160

Suffolk Class C Playoff Picture

Bayport-Blue Pt 8-0-0 9-0-0 174.410
Mt Sinai 8-1-0 8-2-0 163.220
Matt/Gpt/Shld 6-3-0 7-3-0 143.640
Babylon 5-3-0 7-3-0 126.750
Elwood/J Glenn 4-6-0 5-7-0 87.090

Outside looking in.....
Center Moriches 4-6-0 4-8-0 78.200
Hampton Bays 1-8-0 2-9-0 65.250

You left SWR out

oops!

Bayport-Blue Pt 8-0-0 9-0-0 174.410
Mt Sinai 8-1-0 8-2-0 163.220
Shoreham WR 8-2-0 8-2-0 148.630
Matt/Gpt/Shld 6-3-0 7-3-0 143.640
Babylon 5-3-0 7-3-0 126.750

Outside looking in.....
Elwood/J Glenn 4-6-0 5-7-0 87.090

Suffolk A is hard to call at this point but it looks like one of the four favorites will win it.

Smithtown West, Middle Country, West Islip and Northport will battle it out for the county championship. Who will the Suffolk A winner face from Nassau in the Long Island Championship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk A is hard to call at this point but it looks like one of the four favorites will win it.

Smithtown West, Middle Country, West Islip and Northport will battle it out for the county championship. Who will the Suffolk A winner face from Nassau in the Long Island Championship?

Doesn't matter

anyone know how legacy 2020 teal girls are looking?

GC beats Manhasset in OT at Woodstock classic today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know how legacy 2020 teal girls are looking?

wrong thread

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know how legacy 2020 teal girls are looking?

wrong thread

I'm sure they are hanging out posting on Instagram

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CSH can play there 3rd string in the Nassau County final and win, then they will play Bayport or Mt Sinai in the LI final and get the living crap kicked out of there 1st , 2nd and 3rd string. just saying

Stupid people who don't understand the difference between "there", "their", and "they're" make me laugh.

Just like CSH got the crap kicked out of them by Mt Sinai in 4 OT's in last year's LI final. I wouldn't call it a lock as of yet.

Neither of them is beating Bayport so don't argue about it.

Looks like BBP will cruise to an undefeated season and the LI championship . Can anyone from the upstate teams give them a game .

So where's the correct thread then??

2020*

what age group are you talking about?

The 2020 girls. One on tg, yj, and 2 on L

Who are you talking about on yw and L?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see what AG, EW, AL, and AT bring to tryouts. Great competition between them!

You may want to worry more about DK and his TE evaluators. They'll have too much input.

I'm gonna go off on a Maryland High School rant. Outside of Maryland, does anyone know about the level of play here in Anne Arundel county Maryland, the Annapolis area? It is very high if you do not know, on par with the LI scene. Well, here in AACo, there is a school named Severna Park. Their girls team has a lot of state championships, because they are good and...seem to get preferential treatment. I know it happens everywhere, to a lot of teams, but that doesn't make it right. Their biggest rival on a local level and state level is South River, another powerful program. Well, last Friday night, Severna Park beat South River 14-9. Close, very competitive game. Tied several times, with runs by each team. Severna Park played great as usual, and South River was no push-over. But, here is where I have a problem: the refs. South River received two YC's...one legit and one a complete freakin' mystery. On those two YC's, Severna Park scored 7 goals, to their credit. They took advantage of the cards. But, they seemed to play as aggressively or more aggressively as South River did, and received no YC's, even though they hit one of the South River players in the nose with a stick hard enough to bloody her nose enough to stop play. How did the "refs" miss that, especially with evidence staring them in the face? And, a left-handed South River player was moving the ball down the left sideline near midfield, with a right-handed Severna Park trailing her, on the right shoulder of the South River player. The Severna Park reached across the front of the South River player to check the ball. She did it, close enough to almost hit the South River player in the face, and knocked the ball out of bounds. The "ref" awarded the ball to Severna Park. It happened right in front of the stands and when the fans yelled at the "ref" she turned around and admonished the fans. These fans are VERY knowledgable lax fans, and they all knew it should've been an infraction. The second YC is a mystery too. A South River player was shadowing a Severna Park across the middle of the field, both barely jogging. "Ref" blows whistle and call YC on South River. Nobody knew why. When the "ref" was asked what the call was, he said he saw the South River player touch the butt of the stick of the Severna Park player with her stick. Huh? Man, I know it's technically a foul, but a YC?! And, if it's really a YC, EVERY play down the field would have a YC called because I guarantee that the butt end of every stick gets touched on every play.
The bottom line is, Severna Park is "that" school here in AACo and ALL of the other schools can't figure out why. They're not the most affluent, or the prettiest area, or anything. Just a regular suburban area. The game last Friday was the last straw as far as I'm concerned. Anyone else experience crap like this? Thanks for listening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait to see what AG, EW, AL, and AT bring to tryouts. Great competition between them!

You may want to worry more about DK and his TE evaluators. They'll have too much input.

When are tryouts?

Just worry about those girls...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm gonna go off on a Maryland High School rant. Outside of Maryland, does anyone know about the level of play here in Anne Arundel county Maryland, the Annapolis area? It is very high if you do not know, on par with the LI scene. Well, here in AACo, there is a school named Severna Park. Their girls team has a lot of state championships, because they are good and...seem to get preferential treatment. I know it happens everywhere, to a lot of teams, but that doesn't make it right. Their biggest rival on a local level and state level is South River, another powerful program. Well, last Friday night, Severna Park beat South River 14-9. Close, very competitive game. Tied several times, with runs by each team. Severna Park played great as usual, and South River was no push-over. But, here is where I have a problem: the refs. South River received two YC's...one legit and one a complete freakin' mystery. On those two YC's, Severna Park scored 7 goals, to their credit. They took advantage of the cards. But, they seemed to play as aggressively or more aggressively as South River did, and received no YC's, even though they hit one of the South River players in the nose with a stick hard enough to bloody her nose enough to stop play. How did the "refs" miss that, especially with evidence staring them in the face? And, a left-handed South River player was moving the ball down the left sideline near midfield, with a right-handed Severna Park trailing her, on the right shoulder of the South River player. The Severna Park reached across the front of the South River player to check the ball. She did it, close enough to almost hit the South River player in the face, and knocked the ball out of bounds. The "ref" awarded the ball to Severna Park. It happened right in front of the stands and when the fans yelled at the "ref" she turned around and admonished the fans. These fans are VERY knowledgable lax fans, and they all knew it should've been an infraction. The second YC is a mystery too. A South River player was shadowing a Severna Park across the middle of the field, both barely jogging. "Ref" blows whistle and call YC on South River. Nobody knew why. When the "ref" was asked what the call was, he said he saw the South River player touch the butt of the stick of the Severna Park player with her stick. Huh? Man, I know it's technically a foul, but a YC?! And, if it's really a YC, EVERY play down the field would have a YC called because I guarantee that the butt end of every stick gets touched on every play.
The bottom line is, Severna Park is "that" school here in AACo and ALL of the other schools can't figure out why. They're not the most affluent, or the prettiest area, or anything. Just a regular suburban area. The game last Friday was the last straw as far as I'm concerned. Anyone else experience crap like this? Thanks for listening.

I want to add and make it clear that I have zero issues with the way Severna park played. They are very good, and well coached. Even if there were zero YC's against South River I'm not sure if the outcome would've been different. Maybe a closer score, but maybe Severna Park still wins...but maybe not. It just pisses me off to see "refs" have so much influence in the outcome of an important game, or any game. Again, thanks for listening. Oh, two players in this game are going to Hofstra next year. Both studs. HU needs the help and these two should be able to play a lot right away and help. The player from South River is a fast, left-handed defender that can play middie...redhead with a desire to win. The girl from Severna Park has a nose for the goal and drives hard. They're good friends from club ball. Good luck to both!

Sure those girls are a challenge but I think the other girls just have to try harder

That is about under armour^^^

I just told my daughter about these girls and now she's worried if they might overplay her

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm gonna go off on a Maryland High School rant. Outside of Maryland, does anyone know about the level of play here in Anne Arundel county Maryland, the Annapolis area? It is very high if you do not know, on par with the LI scene. Well, here in AACo, there is a school named Severna Park. Their girls team has a lot of state championships, because they are good and...seem to get preferential treatment. I know it happens everywhere, to a lot of teams, but that doesn't make it right. Their biggest rival on a local level and state level is South River, another powerful program. Well, last Friday night, Severna Park beat South River 14-9. Close, very competitive game. Tied several times, with runs by each team. Severna Park played great as usual, and South River was no push-over. But, here is where I have a problem: the refs. South River received two YC's...one legit and one a complete freakin' mystery. On those two YC's, Severna Park scored 7 goals, to their credit. They took advantage of the cards. But, they seemed to play as aggressively or more aggressively as South River did, and received no YC's, even though they hit one of the South River players in the nose with a stick hard enough to bloody her nose enough to stop play. How did the "refs" miss that, especially with evidence staring them in the face? And, a left-handed South River player was moving the ball down the left sideline near midfield, with a right-handed Severna Park trailing her, on the right shoulder of the South River player. The Severna Park reached across the front of the South River player to check the ball. She did it, close enough to almost hit the South River player in the face, and knocked the ball out of bounds. The "ref" awarded the ball to Severna Park. It happened right in front of the stands and when the fans yelled at the "ref" she turned around and admonished the fans. These fans are VERY knowledgable lax fans, and they all knew it should've been an infraction. The second YC is a mystery too. A South River player was shadowing a Severna Park across the middle of the field, both barely jogging. "Ref" blows whistle and call YC on South River. Nobody knew why. When the "ref" was asked what the call was, he said he saw the South River player touch the butt of the stick of the Severna Park player with her stick. Huh? Man, I know it's technically a foul, but a YC?! And, if it's really a YC, EVERY play down the field would have a YC called because I guarantee that the butt end of every stick gets touched on every play.
The bottom line is, Severna Park is "that" school here in AACo and ALL of the other schools can't figure out why. They're not the most affluent, or the prettiest area, or anything. Just a regular suburban area. The game last Friday was the last straw as far as I'm concerned. Anyone else experience crap like this? Thanks for listening.

I am sorry I lost you at I'm gonna...could you please repeat that?

Well... Who told you to tell your daughter? Now what if you daughter goes out there and makes a complete fool of herself because she's so nervous of them?

The girls are the best on li, and your decision was to tell your daughter about them? Oh okay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The girls are the best on li, and your decision was to tell your daughter about them? Oh okay.

Maybe she wanted her daughter to be prepared for what's to come everyone knows these girls play dirty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm gonna go off on a Maryland High School rant. Outside of Maryland, does anyone know about the level of play here in Anne Arundel county Maryland, the Annapolis area? It is very high if you do not know, on par with the LI scene. Well, here in AACo, there is a school named Severna Park. Their girls team has a lot of state championships, because they are good and...seem to get preferential treatment. I know it happens everywhere, to a lot of teams, but that doesn't make it right. Their biggest rival on a local level and state level is South River, another powerful program. Well, last Friday night, Severna Park beat South River 14-9. Close, very competitive game. Tied several times, with runs by each team. Severna Park played great as usual, and South River was no push-over. But, here is where I have a problem: the refs. South River received two YC's...one legit and one a complete freakin' mystery. On those two YC's, Severna Park scored 7 goals, to their credit. They took advantage of the cards. But, they seemed to play as aggressively or more aggressively as South River did, and received no YC's, even though they hit one of the South River players in the nose with a stick hard enough to bloody her nose enough to stop play. How did the "refs" miss that, especially with evidence staring them in the face? And, a left-handed South River player was moving the ball down the left sideline near midfield, with a right-handed Severna Park trailing her, on the right shoulder of the South River player. The Severna Park reached across the front of the South River player to check the ball. She did it, close enough to almost hit the South River player in the face, and knocked the ball out of bounds. The "ref" awarded the ball to Severna Park. It happened right in front of the stands and when the fans yelled at the "ref" she turned around and admonished the fans. These fans are VERY knowledgable lax fans, and they all knew it should've been an infraction. The second YC is a mystery too. A South River player was shadowing a Severna Park across the middle of the field, both barely jogging. "Ref" blows whistle and call YC on South River. Nobody knew why. When the "ref" was asked what the call was, he said he saw the South River player touch the butt of the stick of the Severna Park player with her stick. Huh? Man, I know it's technically a foul, but a YC?! And, if it's really a YC, EVERY play down the field would have a YC called because I guarantee that the butt end of every stick gets touched on every play.
The bottom line is, Severna Park is "that" school here in AACo and ALL of the other schools can't figure out why. They're not the most affluent, or the prettiest area, or anything. Just a regular suburban area. The game last Friday was the last straw as far as I'm concerned. Anyone else experience crap like this? Thanks for listening.

I am sorry I lost you at I'm gonna...could you please repeat that?

I know, I just had to vent a little. I didn't expect anyone to read it all. [lacrosse], I don't want to type it all again either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just told my daughter about these girls and now she's worried if they might overplay her

Why don't you go tell your daughter to go and try to be friends with them? Maybe even use what they use to get better and see where that gets her

one of the girls dad is a coach. No wonder how she got so good in 3 days...

why are you so worried about them? How about you go take your own daughter out and do something instead of having her sitting around all day?
By the looks of these girls none of them sit around all day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

one of the girls dad is a coach. No wonder how she got so good in 3 days...

Who exactly are you talking about? I have the usl up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

one of the girls dad is a coach. No wonder how she got so good in 3 days...

At father kt. Mr. get my daughter so good in 24 hours... Hmmm

Okay everyone lets send all the girls to Massapequa, Babylon, east ilip and Brentwood where you can get the best lacrosse Experience ... ! Time is running

Just watch next year this girl will be in newsday and talked about everywhere

I thought Bayport was supposed to win it last year oh well lets just get ahead of ourselves again😅

You believe... Lol no one can top them

Tg lost out on those two girls. They were such an great impact to the team smh

Father just sits in the bleachers by himself and watches his daughter. Father keeps to himself, while at is out running everyone on her team? Is that the team for her?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just watch next year this girl will be in newsday and talked about everywhere

who are you talking about? What year what club. I'm so confused lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought Bayport was supposed to win it last year oh well lets just get ahead of ourselves again😅

Anyone that picked that team to win last year was just being optimistic. This year they are being realistic. No one has given them a game yet. Does that mean that they are unbeatable? No, but I would be very surprised if they didn't win states.

At definitely not a 2020 with that powerful shot of hers.. Hmm

Who have they played?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they played?

Who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At definitely not a 2020 with that powerful shot of hers.. Hmm

In addition, I've never seen a 2020 with that much of a shot. Something fishy is going on here about these age groups

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of you think those girls are fast you haven't seen Jg and her teammate Cd play. They make defenders crazy, know each other's moves played together since 8 years old. Jg great off hand too

Nobodyy knows who you're talking about. Pls leave

no bayport will coast all the way upstate. put the mortgage on it.

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Suffolk Class A playoff picture....

Smithtown West 9-1-0 9-2-0 158.700
West Islip 8-2-0 8-3-0 152.370
Middle Country 9-1-0 11-1-0 150.690
Northport 7-2-0 9-2-0 136.110
Ward Melville 7-2-0 7-4-0 131.900
Smithtown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 125.910
Sachem North 7-4-0 8-5-0 119.330
Riverhead 6-3-0 6-5-0 109.540
Sachem East 4-6-0 5-6-0 107.360
H H Hills 5-4-0 7-4-0 106.450
Bay Shore 5-4-0 6-5-0 104.320

outside looking in....
Commack HS 4-6-0 6-6-0 101.100
North Babylon 3-6-0 4-7-0 100.580

Suffolk Class B Playoff picture....

Eastport/SManor 7-3-0 8-4-0 148.330
Rocky Point 7-3-0 9-3-0 146.330
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-4-0 141.000
Miller Place 7-3-0 8-4-0 127.530
Westhampton 5-5-0 7-5-0 127.170
West Babylon 5-5-0 6-5-0 118.330
Islip 6-4-0 7-5-0 114.560
Huntington 3-6-0 3-7-0 112.830

outside looking in....
Comsewogue 4-6-0 4-7-0 109.330
Kings Park 6-4-0 7-5-0 105.590
Deer Park 5-4-0 6-5-0 104.260
Hauppauge 4-6-0 5-7-0 102.030

Suffolk Class C Playoff picture....

Bayport-Blue Pt 8-0-0 9-0-0 174.500
Mt Sinai 9-1-0 9-2-0 167.330
Shoreham WR 8-2-0 9-2-0 148.500
Matt/Gpt/Shld 6-3-0 7-3-0 144.170
Babylon 7-3-0 9-3-0 131.060

Unfortunately no team is looking in C is wrapped up other than seeding for playoffs.

Anyone know how l is doing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw kid at the corner waiting for her bus with father kt. She didn't even looked stressed and I'm sure they're aware of what's going on. Not a worry on the kids face

You do realize barely anyone has any idea what you are babbling about . You really are a loser.

My daughter fears these 2020 girls. If anyone has a way to contact them let us know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture....

Smithtown West 9-1-0 9-2-0 158.700
West Islip 8-2-0 8-3-0 152.370
Middle Country 9-1-0 11-1-0 150.690
Northport 7-2-0 9-2-0 136.110
Ward Melville 7-2-0 7-4-0 131.900
Smithtown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 125.910
Sachem North 7-4-0 8-5-0 119.330
Riverhead 6-3-0 6-5-0 109.540
Sachem East 4-6-0 5-6-0 107.360
H H Hills 5-4-0 7-4-0 106.450
Bay Shore 5-4-0 6-5-0 104.320

outside looking in....
Commack HS 4-6-0 6-6-0 101.100
North Babylon 3-6-0 4-7-0 100.580

That Hills (9-5) Bay Shore (7-9) game was huge for Bay Shore. Commack (9-7)looks ripe to over take one of them (Probably BS) and N Bab (8-8) has the easiest schedule left as far as potential wins, but will it give them the pts needed (Look at Sachem East 4-7 harder schedule) record means nothing.

Looks like Bay Shore and N Bab will be the outsiders.

the top teams could get interesting. Good luck to all the girls

Believe it or not these 2020's are actually friendly people, they might just look intimadating with their fancy sticks and goggles

Does any think the best of li players talk to eachother

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter fears these 2020 girls. If anyone has a way to contact them let us know

That is the funniest thing I have read on here in awhile!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does any think the best of li players talk to eachother

That the dumbest think I've heard all day

You people went on about the 7th graders playing varsity for months on end, now your going on about the 8th graders. There always was and alway will be a few kids who stand out of each age group every year. They are not to be feared, and don't be jealous haters of them either. It is what it is, go back to talking about HS lax as this thread was intended for!

I still believe the coach knows all the girls, and they all are benefiting from this. Its cool HS we will see...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they played?

Who?

If you're referring to BBP. They beat both B and C state champs from last year already. Bombed a pretty good Yorktown team also. Big match up with West Babylon tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they played?

Who?

If you're referring to BBP. They beat both B and C state champs from last year already. Bombed a pretty good Yorktown team also. Big match up with West Babylon tomorrow.

West Babylon? They're horrible and will be lucky to lose by less than double digits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they played?

Who?

If you're referring to BBP. They beat both B and C state champs from last year already. Bombed a pretty good Yorktown team also. Big match up with West Babylon tomorrow.

West Babylon? They're horrible and will be lucky to lose by less than double digits.

That was completely sarcastic. Betting line is BBP BY 12.5 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who have they played?

Who?

If you're referring to BBP. They beat both B and C state champs from last year already. Bombed a pretty good Yorktown team also. Big match up with West Babylon tomorrow.

West Babylon? They're horrible and will be lucky to lose by less than double digits.

That was completely sarcastic. Betting line is BBP BY 12.5 goals

BBP is beating everyone this year!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class B Playoff picture....

Eastport/SManor 7-3-0 8-4-0 148.330
Rocky Point 7-3-0 9-3-0 146.330
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-4-0 141.000
Miller Place 7-3-0 8-4-0 127.530
Westhampton 5-5-0 7-5-0 127.170
West Babylon 5-5-0 6-5-0 118.330
Islip 6-4-0 7-5-0 114.560
Huntington 3-6-0 3-7-0 112.830

outside looking in....
Comsewogue 4-6-0 4-7-0 109.330
Kings Park 6-4-0 7-5-0 105.590
Deer Park 5-4-0 6-5-0 104.260
Hauppauge 4-6-0 5-7-0 102.030

Nice win for Comsewogue... looks like Huntington just fell out of the mix.

Huntington Fell out of the mix? Defense lost that game ... We have a midfielder who can't shoot lefty and an attack that consists of one player to score all the goals.., coached horribly this season...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington Fell out of the mix? Defense lost that game ... We have a midfielder who can't shoot lefty and an attack that consists of one player to score all the goals.., coached horribly this season...

Huntington has a 2020 on their LISGYLL team that scores 5 goals a game and is a stud. She should help them out next year.

Nothing can help if you are not coached as a team. Pathetic.

Or tell the AD at Huntington to find this coach KT that is doing magic to the girls on LI 2020 to help them out.. What ever this coach is doing must be great.

You can't be serious about the lisgyll reference. My daughter scores that many as well and she plays D for school and club. If she is that good , she would be playing varsity already.

Who cares how many goals one kid scores, missing the point. Point is in Huntington we have a one girl goal leader but that doesn't get you anywhere. We are out of any playoff looks. That is directly linked to our coaching. Not our players. Coaches putting on a 10 th grader with zero stick, can't shot left or right or catch. She's on 100percent of the time. It's crazy the lack of knowledge that they lack on skill level. Move the jv coaches up and you will probably see a winning team.

She plays st pats so it's a non issue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington Fell out of the mix? Defense lost that game ... We have a midfielder who can't shoot lefty and an attack that consists of one player to score all the goals.., coached horribly this season...

Huntington has a 2020 on their LISGYLL team that scores 5 goals a game and is a stud. She should help them out next year.

Now that is very funny! Have you actually watched any of these LISGYL games? League is a total joke with no real competition.

The thing about AT is that she doesn't get cocky about being one of the best

Who are you talking about replacing the coaches? The LISGYL 2020 coach for Huntington?

Anyone know how DELETED

Keep it up and I will ban your [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how many goals one kid scores, missing the point. Point is in Huntington we have a one girl goal leader but that doesn't get you anywhere. We are out of any playoff looks. That is directly linked to our coaching. Not our players. Coaches putting on a 10 th grader with zero stick, can't shot left or right or catch. She's on 100percent of the time. It's crazy the lack of knowledge that they lack on skill level. Move the jv coaches up and you will probably see a winning team.

see what happened... KW was run out of town because of a reason NO ONE KNOWS and now you have two coaches who by all accounts should not be coaching varsity players. No disrespect to them but they are so out of the element in terms of knowledge of the game that its embarrassing. its a two man team in Huntington and you just can not win with that type of play at this level. Not on LI, maybe in the mid west that would work but the level of talent these girls have here on LI is crazy. All teams need capable coaching. Or they will belly up. I think the coaches we have now were probably not in to taking the job in the first place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how DELETED

Keep it up and I will ban your [lacrosse].

I agree this person should be banned.. I'm sure this kid and her parents don't appreciate being harassed by this person who has some crazy obsession. I would have banned them long ago. Weirdo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how DELETED

Keep it up and I will ban your [lacrosse].

I agree this person should be banned.. I'm sure this kid and her parents don't appreciate being harassed by this person who has some crazy obsession. I would have banned them long ago. Weirdo.

Trust me, he/she is done. What the [lacrosse] kind of obsession it is, is just too creepy for me and he/she is posting in other threads now too. Scary.

It is true, the refs are letting the more dangerous teams win. When the dodger (my daughter) gets knocked in the head, the refs blow the whistle and have the culprit go behind her. The problem is 5 other girls get back on defense and kill the origional dodge to the goal, not to mention the welt on her face. Port Washington wacked my girl countless times all over and never got 1 yellow card! Does someone there know the refs?...yes. Girls lacrosse should have a play on when there is a minor foul and there should be 1 minute penalties issued when a girl plays dirty, not just get behind while her teamates advance on defense. I'm going to get to some girls lax meetings to help smarten up the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is true, the refs are letting the more dangerous teams win. When the dodger (my daughter) gets knocked in the head, the refs blow the whistle and have the culprit go behind her. The problem is 5 other girls get back on defense and kill the origional dodge to the goal, not to mention the welt on her face. Port Washington wacked my girl countless times all over and never got 1 yellow card! Does someone there know the refs?...yes. Girls lacrosse should have a play on when there is a minor foul and there should be 1 minute penalties issued when a girl plays dirty, not just get behind while her teamates advance on defense. I'm going to get to some girls lax meetings to help smarten up the game.

You go dad.

Give the new coaches a chance, first year. The old coach had a bunch of great players over 5 years and never won a playoff game. In the real world performance like this gets people fired. I know in the school world that isn't always the case but it happened. Give the new coaches a break. Let them learn a trick or two and see how they do by year 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares how many goals one kid scores, missing the point. Point is in Huntington we have a one girl goal leader but that doesn't get you anywhere. We are out of any playoff looks. That is directly linked to our coaching. Not our players. Coaches putting on a 10 th grader with zero stick, can't shot left or right or catch. She's on 100percent of the time. It's crazy the lack of knowledge that they lack on skill level. Move the jv coaches up and you will probably see a winning team.

see what happened... KW was run out of town because of a reason NO ONE KNOWS and now you have two coaches who by all accounts should not be coaching varsity players. No disrespect to them but they are so out of the element in terms of knowledge of the game that its embarrassing. its a two man team in Huntington and you just can not win with that type of play at this level. Not on LI, maybe in the mid west that would work but the level of talent these girls have here on LI is crazy. All teams need capable coaching. Or they will belly up. I think the coaches we have now were probably not in to taking the job in the first place.

You know as an outsider, I followed the Huntington posts last year and everyone demanded a change. The aqusations were flying all over about ties to clubs, favoritism, playing time even bullying and you ran a qualified coach out of town. Now it would appear you got exactly what you asked for and your program is a mess. I would also venture a guess that no qualified coach would touch your program with a 10ft pole after what happened last year so they found someone to take the job that probably could care less. It's a shame.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is true, the refs are letting the more dangerous teams win. When the dodger (my daughter) gets knocked in the head, the refs blow the whistle and have the culprit go behind her. The problem is 5 other girls get back on defense and kill the origional dodge to the goal, not to mention the welt on her face. Port Washington wacked my girl countless times all over and never got 1 yellow card! Does someone there know the refs?...yes. Girls lacrosse should have a play on when there is a minor foul and there should be 1 minute penalties issued when a girl plays dirty, not just get behind while her teamates advance on defense. I'm going to get to some girls lax meetings to help smarten up the game.

Your daughter should not be barreling into defenders and hoping to be rewarded for bad play by the refs with a free position. Please. That's the problem with girls lacrosse. if refs called charging more often it would protect offensive and defensive players........Dad....pass the ball

It seems like we now know for the most part the issues with Huntington. AS for the other teams that are usually good that are not doing well this year (Sayville, Huntington and East Islip to a point come to mind) what are their issues? I 'm sure they could live with it being less talent but it's the soap opera stuff that makes it worse

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

you DO realize that a loss is a loss, no matter how much you lose by, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

That's lame. Maybe your team isn't as invincible as you thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

That must've been some impressive clinic. How much did you beat them by?

Wait, never mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

I bet they were garbage minute goals....she's no SA, the curtail train left the station last year. Thx for checking in Dad

12.5 goal dog...Jimmy the Greek your not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

Lame. You sound like a sore loser. You got beat, move on and stop the tears, mommy still loves you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Huntington Fell out of the mix? Defense lost that game ... We have a midfielder who can't shoot lefty and an attack that consists of one player to score all the goals.., coached horribly this season...

Huntington has a 2020 on their LISGYLL team that scores 5 goals a game and is a stud. She should help them out next year.

Now that is very funny! Have you actually watched any of these LISGYL games? League is a total joke with no real competition.

Top 3-4 teams would beat most jv teams, bottom 3-4 is another story

They are the best on Long Island? Have they played against every girl on Long Island? The only reason the are a shoe in for UA is because CR runs the whole thing. And to say she doesn't give almost every YJ player the look over other kids is a lie. A few players are on the same level from Nassau that never get the look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are the best on Long Island? Have they played against every girl on Long Island? The only reason the are a shoe in for UA is because CR runs the whole thing. And to say she doesn't give almost every YJ player the look over other kids is a lie. A few players are on the same level from Nassau that never get the look.

Club lacrosse controls all the "all star teams" Follow the money and the power

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are the best on Long Island? Have they played against every girl on Long Island? The only reason the are a shoe in for UA is because CR runs the whole thing. And to say she doesn't give almost every YJ player the look over other kids is a lie. A few players are on the same level from Nassau that never get the look.

Club lacrosse controls all the "all star teams" Follow the money and the power

Correction when CR is involved CLUB Lax plus playing in Suffolk gives the nod. CR has zero love for Nassau Laxers!

it must have been been if goalie made 18 saves, DELETED

Are you serious?? How many times and ways do we have to say it???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

Agree 100%. They stand and complain with their dopey jackets and then engage the parents from the other team. Then ask for security to quiet down opposing parents. Their facility is a dump. It all starts with their town teams that are directed from wannabe coaches who think they are Gary Gait coaching Syracuse. Their varsity coach is the biggest complainer which carries thru their organization and community. CLASSLESS

I really hope BBP makes it out of Suffolk and maybe CSH can shut them up. Act like you've been there, show some class. You know its bad when your own Sec 11 neighbors are rooting for the city slickers to take you down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

Agree 100%. They stand and complain with their dopey jackets and then engage the parents from the other team. Then ask for security to quiet down opposing parents. Their facility is a dump. It all starts with their town teams that are directed from wannabe coaches who think they are Gary Gait coaching Syracuse. Their varsity coach is the biggest complainer which carries thru their organization and community. CLASSLESS

You just described almost every lax town on Long Island. No dog in this fight but enlighten us on what town you are from please?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BBP 15, West Babylon 11. Not as bad as you thought.

Correction: BBP 15, West Babylon 3, Refs 8

BBP worst fans in the county. Come on here and tell everyone you have the best player in the world, a sure thing undefeated season and state championship . Wbab kid put on an offensive clinic , BBP kids play dirty and fans whine like ill informed babies at every call. Hey BBP coach you mat want to tell the parents on your team to stop acting like they coach the team and know more than you about the game.

Agree 100%. They stand and complain with their dopey jackets and then engage the parents from the other team. Then ask for security to quiet down opposing parents. Their facility is a dump. It all starts with their town teams that are directed from wannabe coaches who think they are Gary Gait coaching Syracuse. Their varsity coach is the biggest complainer which carries thru their organization and community. CLASSLESS

You just described almost every lax town on Long Island. No dog in this fight but enlighten us on what town you are from please?

Sorry....you are wrong. Many school games don't have the parents intentionally engaging parents from other team. If you have no dog in the fight (yea sure) then My town..... is none of your business.

Esm against Shoreham yesterday was a good game with Shoreham prevailing , have to say swr goalie kept them in the game , as well as the attack who put points on the board. There was not much from esm in terms of what they use to be .

CSH should of won last year but an 80 yard run pull on the drawstrings after the goal was the difference my money is on CSH

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent - just worst coaching possible.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent - just worst coaching possible.

isn't he one of the great YJ coaches?

Suffolk Class A playoff picture

Smithtown West 10-1-0 10-2-0 162.310
Middle Country 10-1-0 12-1-0 157.040
West Islip 9-2-0 9-3-0 155.310
Northport 8-2-0 10-2-0 142.370
Ward Melville 8-2-0 8-4-0 135.190
Smithtown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 125.860
Sachem North 8-4-0 9-5-0 123.870
Riverhead 7-3-0 7-5-0 113.110
Sachem East 5-6-0 6-6-0 108.330
H H Hills 5-5-0 7-5-0 104.820
Bay Shore 5-5-0 6-6-0 101.840

Outside looking in....
Patchogue-Medford 6-5-0 6-6-0 101.220
North Babylon 3-7-0 4-8-0 100.120
Commack HS 4-7-0 6-7-0 98.750

Suffolk Class B Playoff picture

Rocky Point 8-3-0 10-3-0 149.450
Harborfields 8-3-0 9-4-0 147.630
Eastport/SManor 7-4-0 8-5-0 146.540
Westhampton 6-5-0 8-5-0 133.220
Miller Place 7-3-0 8-4-0 126.840
West Babylon 5-6-0 6-6-0 118.090
Comsewogue 5-6-0 5-7-0 112.640
Islip 6-5-0 7-6-0 109.630

Outside looking in....
Huntington 3-7-0 3-8-0 107.220
Hauppauge 5-6-0 6-7-0 103.340
Kings Park 6-5-0 7-6-0 101.690
Deer Park 6-5-0 7-6-0 100.330

Suffolk Class C Playoff picture

Bayport-Blue Pt 10-0-0 12-0-0 183.410
Mt Sinai 10-1-0 10-2-0 171.190
Shoreham WR 9-2-0 10-2-0 156.040
Matt/Gpt/Shld 8-3-0 9-3-0 155.840
Babylon 8-3-0 10-3-0 134.860

nobody looking in...playing for seed now.

How about Nassau?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about Nassau?

Nassau is too confusing to figure out. Sorry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent - just worst coaching possible.

isn't he one of the great YJ coaches?

Last I heard at YJ Great - No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent - just worst coaching possible.

So team not winning = lets blame the coach? Schools record is basically flat for as far back as I can find, no better, no worse. Maybe there is some talent but probably not very deep. Parents need to march up to school and demand a change!

What is going on at North Shore this year?
Let's be honest!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is going on at North Shore this year?
Let's be honest!!!!!

Well to be honest the taxes are still high. Traffic is horrible getting up here. Kids are great.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent just worst coaching possible.

So team not winning = lets blame the coach? Schools record is basically flat for as far back as I can find, no better, no worse. Maybe there is some talent but probably not very deep. Parents need to march up to school and demand a change!

In this case YES blame the coach = the team has been flat for years because he has been coaching for years!! And to say the talent is not deep for any team is just crazy. Lacrosse players are a dime a dozen - with a few handful of absolute standouts. Do you think all good players are born into certain towns or districts? It's the coaching. Good coaches=consistent success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Suffolk Class A playoff picture

Smithtown West 10-1-0 10-2-0 162.310
Middle Country 10-1-0 12-1-0 157.040
West Islip 9-2-0 9-3-0 155.310
Northport 8-2-0 10-2-0 142.370
Ward Melville 8-2-0 8-4-0 135.190
Smithtown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 125.860
Sachem North 8-4-0 9-5-0 123.870
Riverhead 7-3-0 7-5-0 113.110
Sachem East 5-6-0 6-6-0 108.330
H H Hills 5-5-0 7-5-0 104.820
Bay Shore 5-5-0 6-6-0 101.840

Outside looking in....
Patchogue-Medford 6-5-0 6-6-0 101.220
North Babylon 3-7-0 4-8-0 100.120
Commack HS 4-7-0 6-7-0 98.750

updated today....
Smithtown West 10-1-0 10-2-0 162.310
Middle Country 10-1-0 12-1-0 157.040
West Islip 9-2-0 9-3-0 155.310
Northport 8-2-0 10-2-0 142.370
Ward Melville 8-2-0 8-4-0 135.190
Smithtown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 125.860
Sachem North 8-4-0 9-5-0 123.870
Riverhead 7-3-0 7-5-0 113.110
Sachem East 5-6-0 6-6-0 108.330
H H Hills 5-5-0 7-5-0 104.820
Bay Shore 5-5-0 6-6-0 101.840

outside looking in
Patchogue-Medford 6-5-0 6-6-0 101.220
North Babylon 3-7-0 4-8-0 100.120

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess MC left their starters in for the whole game against Connetquot

It wouldn't make a difference. Connetquot has talent just worst coaching possible.

So team not winning = lets blame the coach? Schools record is basically flat for as far back as I can find, no better, no worse. Maybe there