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Up 10 ZIP playing in the Town division and screaming for 40 minutes is classy ???
Not in Long Island Pal !!!

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New Fairfield is a small western Connecticut town which has a High School graduating class of about 200 each year. The town team that played Saturday was all 7th graders with the exception of one 6th grader. This group has been playing together for many years and are an exception bunch with exceptional coaching. The same team plays travel lacrosse under the name 3 tribes. They usually pick up 3-4 players from the surrounding towns. On Sunday it was the same town team as Saturday with the exception of one talented 7th grader from Scarsdale. So disappointing that parents have to look for excuses when their team loses. It minimizes the hard work of the kids. As for the head coach acting like they just won the superbowl after beating West Islip on Saturday.... Not in a million years he is way to professional and classy.

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Lost to jesters 4-3 which that game was evenly matched. Could have gone either way. We will see them again in the near future. And it will be another great game. Kudos to both teams playing hard. 91 whites other loss was to 91 orange 10-5. We were up 5-4 at one point. Another great game. Beat three tribes who beat 91 orange. It is only the beginning folks. Long season ahead for all. Remember this is about having your son enjoy this great game of lacrosse, and learning. We are so fixated on winning when there is more to it at this point. They are still only 12 going on 13 so there is alot of growing and maturity still ahead. Teams are starting to even out more as these kids go through puberty.

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Maybe all the town teams they beat like WI should get a few kids from their surronding towns like 3 tribes did next time...Oh wait that would be the Travel Division !!!! oops...

And change their team names from day to day



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New Fairfield is a small western Connecticut town which has a High School graduating class of about 200 each year. The town team that played Saturday was all 7th graders with the exception of one 6th grader. This group has been playing together for many years and are an exception bunch with exceptional coaching. The same team plays travel lacrosse under the name 3 tribes. They usually pick up 3-4 players from the surrounding towns. On Sunday it was the same town team as Saturday with the exception of one talented 7th grader from Scarsdale. So disappointing that parents have to look for excuses when their team loses. It minimizes the hard work of the kids. As for the head coach acting like they just won the superbowl after beating West Islip on Saturday.... Not in a million years he is way to professional and classy.

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WHo could the jesters have added to make them so much better?

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New Fairfield is a small western Connecticut town which has a High School graduating class of about 200 each year. The town team that played Saturday was all 7th graders with the exception of one 6th grader. This group has been playing together for many years and are an exception bunch with exceptional coaching. The same team plays travel lacrosse under the name 3 tribes. They usually pick up 3-4 players from the surrounding towns. On Sunday it was the same town team as Saturday with the exception of one talented 7th grader from Scarsdale. So disappointing that parents have to look for excuses when their team loses. It minimizes the hard work of the kids. As for the head coach acting like they just won the superbowl after beating West Islip on Saturday.... Not in a million years he is way to professional and classy.


I know 3 tribes played the 2020 91 Crush in the 2019 A championship. I heard Crush blew them out, what was the score ?

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Stop crying WI. Did u read it correctly ? When they play travel is when they get kids from surrounding towns. You can't win every year. Stop teaching your team to complain and look for excuses. Parents / coaches should lead by example.

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I have one very important question: Why are there two Shamrock threads?

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New Fairfield is a small western Connecticut town which has a High School graduating class of about 200 each year. The town team that played Saturday was all 7th graders with the exception of one 6th grader. This group has been playing together for many years and are an exception bunch with exceptional coaching. The same team plays travel lacrosse under the name 3 tribes. They usually pick up 3-4 players from the surrounding towns. On Sunday it was the same town team as Saturday with the exception of one talented 7th grader from Scarsdale. So disappointing that parents have to look for excuses when their team loses. It minimizes the hard work of the kids. As for the head coach acting like they just won the superbowl after beating West Islip on Saturday.... Not in a million years he is way to professional and classy.


I know 3 tribes played the 2020 91 Crush in the 2019 A championship. I heard Crush blew them out, what was the score ?


Good game for tbe first 10 min Crush totally took over the game in the second half winning 13 - 5 in the 2019 A championship game.

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What does this say ??
New Fairfield is a small western Connecticut town which has a High School graduating class of about 200 each year. The town team that played Saturday was all 7th graders with the exception of one 6th grader. This group has been playing together for many years and are an exception bunch with exceptional coaching. The same team plays travel lacrosse under the name 3 tribes. They usually pick up 3-4 players from the surrounding towns. On Sunday it was the same town team as Saturday with the exception of one talented 7th grader from Scarsdale.
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Stop crying WI. Did u read it correctly ? When they play travel is when they get kids from surrounding towns. You can't win every year. Stop teaching your team to complain and look for excuses. Parents / coaches should lead by example.

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I have one very important question: Why are there two Shamrock threads?


I did that. I wanted the schedule to be noticed when it came out.

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any reason why all the results are not posted somewhere?

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Thanks. Top F/O guy was out with a broken wrist.

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titanium 91 won 6th grade B-josh marksberry team

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any reason why all the results are not posted somewhere?


Because nobody cares

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Thanks. Top F/O guy was out with a broken wrist.


What team?

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titanium 91 won 6th grade B-josh marksberry team


No competition in that division. It was a joke. Smash could have beat the other 3 teams.

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I remember seeing something about a new fresh organization that will have their 2021 team rival igloo, 91 orange, and express this year. How did they do this weekend ?


If you are referring to Icon , they made it into the championship but lost to 91 orange


No, I was referring to Legacy...there was so much buzz. So many people had pitcher after pitcher of cool aid at the try outs.

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.

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titanium 91 won 6th grade B-josh marksberry team
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titanium 91 won 6th grade B-josh marksberry team


Who'd they play in the championship game? Score?

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No championship Game. It was assumed that they could beat 91 Cyclones or the tournament directors thought it was to cold to play. So they were given the championship.

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WoW , honestly that should not have been the case , and proof that titanium should NOT have been in B bracket to steal the show away from Cyclones , What ever happened to playing all the teams in a competitive bracket ? give your team a challenge ? especially when a low turnout in a B bracket you could have just combined all 6th grade teams.
A few parents from titanium were overheard complaining about the weak competition and bracket placement and not so happy ,yada yada yada , as you will never make everyone happy in travel but If this continues with High expectations from the parents, and 91 does not challenge this team and play them in A , chances are it will self destruct and people will jump ship.


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No championship Game. It was assumed that they could beat 91 Cyclones or the tournament directors thought it was to cold to play. So they were given the championship.

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


The entire 2020 B bracket consisted of weak teams, none of which would have been successful in a True A bracket.

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


Titanium is a solid B team. Josh is a great guy/coach and can hopefully continue to recruit new boys. Until he can they will struggle in an A division.

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Heard from a few people Team Long Island 5th grade players are going over to titanium with Josh,?? True?? Even With those additions they still will not compete in 6th grade A .

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


Titanium is a solid B team. Josh is a great guy/coach and can hopefully continue to recruit new boys. Until he can they will struggle in an A division.

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fl$ 2020 was missing their primary face off guy. In response to the comment that they couldn't win a face off and the boy doing them looked to have no formal training but was scrappy--you are probably correct.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.


What's funny is that everyone knows this tournament stinks, the refs call games in favor of 91 teams and 91 stacks the schedules in their favor, and despite that all the teams keep coming.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.


What's funny is that everyone knows this tournament stinks, the refs call games in favor of 91 teams and 91 stacks the schedules in their favor, and despite that all the teams keep coming.


Oh please, stop it with the excuses. You say the same thing when express or outlaws run a tournament. You'll never be satisfied unless you run your own. Just go off LI for all your tournaments and enjoy the ride.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.


What's funny is that everyone knows this tournament stinks, the refs call games in favor of 91 teams and 91 stacks the schedules in their favor, and despite that all the teams keep coming.


Oh please, stop it with the excuses. You say the same thing when express or outlaws run a tournament. You'll never be satisfied unless you run your own. Just go off LI for all your tournaments and enjoy the ride.


Would love to! Miserable tourney! between the frigid weather and the sketchy calls, not fun!

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It is amazing that teams still play in this tournament. We stopped bringing my son's team a few years ago. My daughter played last year, and it reminded me of why we stopped with the boys. Fortunately, we weren't there this year, and never will be again! I think people are so anxious to get outside that they can't resist registering for this crappy, half-rigged tournament!

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.


What's funny is that everyone knows this tournament stinks, the refs call games in favor of 91 teams and 91 stacks the schedules in their favor, and despite that all the teams keep coming.


Oh please, stop it with the excuses. You say the same thing when express or outlaws run a tournament. You'll never be satisfied unless you run your own. Just go off LI for all your tournaments and enjoy the ride.


Would love to! Miserable tourney! between the frigid weather and the sketchy calls, not fun!


Refs must have found themselves in a real predicament when 91 played each other. I thought the refs let the kids play this weekend. More physical then I expected, especially considering the cold weather.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Refs on the boys side were horrible (and my kid's team did fine). Actually the whole experience stunk, once again. It was still dark when we arrived and frigid. My kid and his friends are hearty kids and they did not have fun and neither did I. Hopefully next year his team skips it. If not, I may have to make sure I have a prior commitment that day!


Refs were terrible, inconsistent in general and 100% called the games in favor of 91...this is not just my opinion but several coaches I spoke with at different age levels. Also schedules were stacked in favor of 91. Combine that with frigid temps, some undersized fields and I agree the experience stunk once again his year.


What's funny is that everyone knows this tournament stinks, the refs call games in favor of 91 teams and 91 stacks the schedules in their favor, and despite that all the teams keep coming.


Attendance in this tournament has started to decline over the years.2020B bracket was 2 91 teams and 2 others. The weather seems to be the biggest issue for a lot of people. They will continue to draw just because it's the first spring event but it also may get smaller over the course of time. y sons team is playing this weekend and it is forecasted to be 55 degrees. all luck of the draw with mother nature this time of the year.

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


The entire 2020 B bracket consisted of weak teams, none of which would have been successful in a True A bracket.


2020 Titanium is an A team. Did you see them play?

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


The entire 2020 B bracket consisted of weak teams, none of which would have been successful in a True A bracket.


2020 Titanium is an A team. Did you see them play?


I did. They look like an A team against weak teams. Put them against true A teams and they look like a B team. Nothing wrong with that. Good talent. Just need more depth.

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Your kidding right. Smash is a great team but to say they would have beat three 2020 teams is a little insulting to the those kids don't you think? Yes Titanium was clearly the top team but then again they didn't belong in the B division.


The entire 2020 B bracket consisted of weak teams, none of which would have been successful in a True A bracket.


2020 Titanium is an A team. Did you see them play?


I did. They look like an A team against weak teams. Put them against true A teams and they look like a B team. Nothing wrong with that. Good talent. Just need more depth.


Well said but I disagree. I saw them play and feel they will do well in an A bracket. I guess we will have to wait and see. Good luck to all the boys this spring!!!

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Sounds like that short, gray haired annoying ref was there from 3 village. The one with the big mouth.

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One comment from the girls side was that officiating was beyond terrible. Refs were cold, didn't move and for the most part were clueless to the rules.


Sounds like that short, gray haired annoying ref was there from 3 village. The one with the big mouth.


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