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I laugh when I hear about these old tough guys. I worked in a jail for decades. Saw numerous kids from and areas who at the age of 15, 15 had survived gun shots and stabbings. Who grew up in conditions where you better learn to survive. Nobody's tougher then these kids so by your theory these bad areas schools would have whooped you outright I certainly appreciate your tough former occupation, however that analogy is ridiculous.
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Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!! I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles, garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now? Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago. You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things. This has to be a joke. If it is not I suggest that you get help as soon as possible.
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in the 70's we played with really heavy traditionally strung sticks - wrestling knee pads as arm guards. In the fall most of us played football and in the winter we played basketball and pick up box lacrosse on the tennis courts. Over the summer we played one day a week game only no practices. And some of us were really good. The game was different as well, Middies played both ways, attack were all 5' 2" and weighed 135lbs. D were all football players trying to stay in shape. And if anybody used his off hand we all took notice. Today's players all have sticks in there hands 12 months a year and have specialized positions. there are kids on high school teams today that do not get any playing time that would be the most skilled players from "yesteryear's" high school team you can not compare then to now because it is truly a different game.
Having said all that, I think we had a [lacrosse] of a lot more fun back then, being a lacrosse player in the 70's meant a few things like - 1) you sucked at baseball 2) you were a bro before you knew what that was 3) you could beat the crap out of your opponent on the field an then go to the parking lot and have a beer (or 5) with them and you knew you were a playing the greatest sport in the world for fun, not to commit to a college in 9th grade or to win a championship with your club team.
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We'll said. Problem is most parents of these fine laxers never played and are wowed by their skill. Which is great by the way but to say they can compete with varsity teams of the past is ridiculous. When they are in HS they might have quick hands and finesse but being it is a contact sport they are defiantly not nearly as tough and physical as we were. And yes I played at a Big HS on LI as well as a top D1 college in mid 80's. All I can say is puff puff pass! You two must be enjoying some good ole stuff. If you are truly as amazing as you profess, or a fan and keep up with the sport you would know the differences of the two era's. I can take it to another level, do you really think College players of those times can compete with those now. Good luck to your sons who can never live up to good ole dad
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Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!! I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles, garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now? Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago. You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things. It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled? Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??) "Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart." Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook. News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is. Truth. Truth by who? A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again well considering the fact that WM had only one state champion wrestler in the 1980's and it was in 1981... news flash, you are old. If you live in the three villages now you should be more concerned with the youth program. The men who stole the program some years ago have ruined it. Yeah Yeah I know wM won a state championship last year. I wish WM well this year and I think the HS coaches are good but three village board has ruined the youth league.
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I still don't get this guy. He thinks that a team of 9th graders would beat some championship teams of the 80's and 90's . This has nothing to do with being tough. It's common sense. He's saying there was no skill involved back then, just brutish lax being played. What are his credentials? What great athletic feats has he accomplished? Or is he the one who is living his glory through a 9th grader who he thinks are the best ever!!! Comical. Simply comical. You need to sit back and enjoy your kid. Stop comparing him to older players you probably never saw play. Who cares???????
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Don't forget the best player ever might have played in the 50's..
Jim Brown Didn't cradle much but he didn't have too. nobody then or today could stop him.
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My occupation is meaningless. My point os kids from poorer towns are tougher so they should be better according to the argument being made here I laugh when I hear about these old tough guys. I worked in a jail for decades. Saw numerous kids from and areas who at the age of 15, 15 had survived gun shots and stabbings. Who grew up in conditions where you better learn to survive. Nobody's tougher then these kids so by your theory these bad areas schools would have whooped you outright I certainly appreciate your tough former occupation, however that analogy is ridiculous.
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Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!! I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles, garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now? Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago. You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things. It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled? Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??) "Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart." Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook. News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is. Truth. Truth by who? A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again [lacrosse] Hum.....I'm sorry, I dozed off during your brief and defensive diatribe out of sheer boredom. If you played lacrosse as weakly as your written retorts are; then it was you who was on the bench my clearly disillusioned and academically challenged friend. As to your assumption that I didn't play sports?...I competed for a D1 school and achieved a national ranking of top 5 in my discipline. I would discuss Olympic trials with you but what would be the point. I'm just a bench warmer. As to my son? Let's just say his current status precludes me from saying more other than his his game has already spoken for itself and his commitment confirms that. Et tu, Brutus?
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The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear.
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The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear. (a) Did you read what you actually wrote? (b) Do you really believe this? (c) How would you prove it? The games are completely different.
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Sure you did. I actually was on the Olympic team. Not just the trials. And I'm real sure your son committed. Did you ever play lax? Or are you determining your sons Inevitable victory over yesteryears lax programs on what you perceive is your sons vastly superior talent. [lacrosse] him.....
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Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!! I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles, garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now? Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago. You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things. It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled? Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??) "Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart." Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook. News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is. Truth. Truth by who? A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again [lacrosse] Hum.....I'm sorry, I dozed off during your brief and defensive diatribe out of sheer boredom. If you played lacrosse as weakly as your written retorts are; then it was you who was on the bench my clearly disillusioned and academically challenged friend. As to your assumption that I didn't play sports?...I competed for a D1 school and achieved a national ranking of top 5 in my discipline. I would discuss Olympic trials with you but what would be the point. I'm just a bench warmer. As to my son? Let's just say his current status precludes me from saying more other than his his game has already spoken for itself and his commitment confirms that. Et tu, Brutus? Fencing Team? Skipper.
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The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear. (a) Did you read what you actually wrote? (b) Do you really believe this? (c) How would you prove it? The games are completely different. I was looking to get a rise out of a select few lax dads from another era, so yes I know what I wrote, but I do not believe it to be true. And you are also right that you can't make that comparison. I am on the side that todays varsity teams would crush my era (80's), and find the thought of those who are arguing differently, very funny.
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