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Posted By: jackstraw

2023 commits - 02/07/14 02:21 PM

According to Inside Lacrosse, a prominent 2023 midfielder that plays for a top Long Island club has, reportedly, committed to 4th grade at Shelter Rock Elementary School. Loretta Smith, head PE teacher, was quoted, "His closing speed and ability to finish when playing dodge ball is uncanny." Many evaluators feel he is a can't miss prospect that will dominate the club scene this summer. His biggest drawback is his inability to tie his shoes or put his equipment on by himself. Coach Bresci thinks that in 10 -11 years, this kid will be THE guy. Other schools that he considered were St Mary's, Friends Academy and Portledge.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 03:51 PM

re-classifier? Taking away spots for true 2023's.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 04:08 PM

Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool


I respectfully disagree. Have you ever watched a JV game of West Islip Chaminade Garden City Manhasset Syosset Pequa S'town WM Darian Jay ytown somers Pac LLpanas.

That is the skill speed and strength of your 80's teams.

Ever watch an elite 2020 - 2017 team, that is better than any 80's HS match.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.

7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 04:49 PM

Tennessee Jed is a funny cat, except when he kicks my dog!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 04:55 PM

I dont think so. Not at all. Look at football, players keep getting bigger and faster. WHen I went to HS In the 80s we did not have guys this big and fast as we say today in HS. If two players of equal ability, one starts playing in first grade , the other in 9th all things being equal the kid who started sooner will be better,This sounds more like one of those ' we I went to school we walked 10 miles both way up hill: deals
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 05:07 PM

That's because today's "athlete" is a one sport
Kid. Not many play other sports. The ones that
do you can see are tougher.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool


I disagree with ALL of this EXCEPT for the fact that kids WERE tougher back then.

The rest is not accurate. Kids are bigger, stronger, faster, start earlier, are better trained amd trained from an earlier age. Science has shown us better was to develop faster and stroner athletes.

Kids today are ALSO NOT as respectful to coaches, other kids and refs as they were back then (nor are the parents).
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tennessee Jed is a funny cat, except when he kicks my dog!


My dog turned to me and he said, you better get back to Tennessee Jed
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 06:26 PM

hate to bring religion into it but... my rock is better than your rock. just saying
Posted By: jackstraw

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 06:40 PM

The lacrosse that is played today is so different from the game we played when we were young. The sticks hold the ball better. The mesh pockets break in easier and more consistently. Conditioning and coaching are much better then in the past. The club scene and D1 scholarship situation has made lacrosse into junior hockey or AAU basketball. I don't think we will see the kid that starts playing in 6th or 7th grade and becomes a starter in HS anymore. All sports have become specialized. There is a lot of money to be made coaching and running these club programs. I was a three sport athlete in HS and played 4 years of football and lacrosse at the DIII level. I don't think DIII coaches would allow a starter to play football anymore.

But, us lacrosse geeks are from the no. 1 hotbed of the sport. Therefore, we are lucky. We should embrace the madness. As long as we keep everything in perspective, our children will gain a lot from playing lacrosse at high levels. They learn discipline and teamwork. They learn how to win and how to lose. They will make lifelong friends and will be exposed to a ton of nut jobs. And, if we as parents take the right attitude, and don't push our little Johnnies too hard, then our boys will love each of us for what we are doing for them. Club lacrosse should be fun and educational. Smart people will know when the game becomes "too much" for our kids. As long as we don't go overboard, both you and your kids will learn a lot from these experiences.
Posted By: Maniac

Re: 2023 commits - 02/07/14 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by tennesseejed
The lacrosse that is played today is so different from the game we played when we were young. The sticks hold the ball better. The mesh pockets break in easier and more consistently. Conditioning and coaching are much better then in the past. The club scene and D1 scholarship situation has made lacrosse into junior hockey or AAU basketball. I don't think we will see the kid that starts playing in 6th or 7th grade and becomes a starter in HS anymore. All sports have become specialized. There is a lot of money to be made coaching and running these club programs. I was a three sport athlete in HS and played 4 years of football and lacrosse at the DIII level. I don't think DIII coaches would allow a starter to play football anymore.

But, us lacrosse geeks are from the no. 1 hotbed of the sport. Therefore, we are lucky. We should embrace the madness. As long as we keep everything in perspective, our children will gain a lot from playing lacrosse at high levels. They learn discipline and teamwork. They learn how to win and how to lose. They will make lifelong friends and will be exposed to a ton of nut jobs. And, if we as parents take the right attitude, and don't push our little Johnnies too hard, then our boys will love each of us for what we are doing for them. Club lacrosse should be fun and educational. Smart people will know when the game becomes "too much" for our kids. As long as we don't go overboard, both you and your kids will learn a lot from these experiences.


Well said!!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/09/14 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Maniac
Originally Posted by tennesseejed
The lacrosse that is played today is so different from the game we played when we were young. The sticks hold the ball better. The mesh pockets break in easier and more consistently. Conditioning and coaching are much better then in the past. The club scene and D1 scholarship situation has made lacrosse into junior hockey or AAU basketball. I don't think we will see the kid that starts playing in 6th or 7th grade and becomes a starter in HS anymore. All sports have become specialized. There is a lot of money to be made coaching and running these club programs. I was a three sport athlete in HS and played 4 years of football and lacrosse at the DIII level. I don't think DIII coaches would allow a starter to play football anymore.

But, us lacrosse geeks are from the no. 1 hotbed of the sport. Therefore, we are lucky. We should embrace the madness. As long as we keep everything in perspective, our children will gain a lot from playing lacrosse at high levels. They learn discipline and teamwork. They learn how to win and how to lose. They will make lifelong friends and will be exposed to a ton of nut jobs. And, if we as parents take the right attitude, and don't push our little Johnnies too hard, then our boys will love each of us for what we are doing for them. Club lacrosse should be fun and educational. Smart people will know when the game becomes "too much" for our kids. As long as we don't go overboard, both you and your kids will learn a lot from these experiences.


Well said!!!


The older you get the faster and better you were.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/09/14 03:08 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.



7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


Pretty personal and obnoxious reply to a post.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/09/14 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.



7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


Pretty personal and obnoxious reply to a post.


But also accurate, especially in lacrosse. The lacrosse we played on LI when we were 9th to 12th grade, going back 25 years is not even close to the level it is at now. It may be nice to think you were a stud back when, and maybe you could compete in todays game if you attack the sport with dedication of the players today, but very seriously, you can not compare your 1980something Hs championship team to the level of play today.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/09/14 07:35 PM

Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/10/14 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/10/14 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


If you were talking football, baseball or any other sport that has not progressed too much in last 25 years I would agree with you. The game of lacrosse has changed radically from our days, I watch in amazement at the talent and speed of todays kids. You seriously think that those old teams could compete with the modern day teams because of toughness? I like your fighting attitude, but you are delusional.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/10/14 01:36 AM

I'm not talking about talent. Any fool can see
today's lax players are much more talented.
But the older generation of players hit much,
much, much more than today. I think that would be a
great equalizer. That turns a skilled player into
a timid player......in any sport.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/10/14 01:43 AM

What????? You obviously never played lax or
any other contact sport. Physical play can win
over skilled play sometimes. Get knocked around
enough and skills turns into jitters. Again not always
but sometimes it works. And there is NOTHING
wrong with playing that style. The object is to win.
As long as it's not dirty, just win baby.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/10/14 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not talking about talent. Any fool can see
today's lax players are much more talented.
But the older generation of players hit much,
much, much more than today. I think that would be a
great equalizer. That turns a skilled player into
a timid player......in any sport.


Ponderous....simply ponderous.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/12/14 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.

7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


7th graders going up against 12th graders??? Maybe the above poster isn't the one drinking too many brews
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha.....classic!! Isn't it funny how things are going nowadays -- It's funny, I played D1 (late 80s - against Gaits etc) and most guys on my college squad started lax in Junior High and 9th grade (even with the old equipment, late start, lack of tourney's, recruiting showcases and specialty clinics) .....would run circles around many of the 'athletes' of today - I don't know, as with the NFL, NHL etc. - Speaking from a current coaches perspective, the youth of the 60s-80s seem to be a tougher class of kid cool

The glory days always look more magnificent through the bottom of your row of empty pints.

7th grade Kids of today would destroy the Varsity teams of your days gone long by
:-)


7th graders going up against 12th graders??? Maybe the above poster isn't the one drinking too many brews


Clearly you have not seen the Turtles or Dukes or crabs kids of the 2017 class do just that on the reg as they say.

Is it any wonder that these same teams comprise the largest total of the current 2017 commits to D1 programs.

Take your face out of the pitcher and wipe the suds from your unseeing and reluctant to believe what you're seeing eyes behold.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.


... said the guy who bet on the Broncos over the Seahawks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you can.....physically today's player would
be pummeled. I'm not saying they're not bigger,
Stronger and faster....they are. They're just not
as tough. Toughness goes a long way. Intimidates
players. Makes all those skills of today a whole
lot more tentative......just an observation of today's
athlete.


Toughness then, as it is now, equates to aggressiveness which usually is displayed by weaker skill set players in the face of superior skills, as any well traveled long island club parent will tell you.
When the true age kids of Long Island play the reclassifieds of Md and Virginia etc; the older reclassifieds typically are playing where they are as their skills did not or could not match up with those of their peers. Thus the reclassified status. This aggression or "toughness" is relied upon and is inversely proportional to their lack of skills. The kids of Long Island who typically play up usually get much aggression from those who have to play down, as they still don't measure up skill wise. The only advantage they have is size and physical maturity.

Therefore, "the kids were tougher yesteryear" theory doesn't hold up and is typically an anecdotal glory days recollection that just isn't accurate.

And based on the results of the "skilled kids" playing the "tougher kids"; I'd say that the intimidation factor is also null and void.

Your argument thus is baseless as are your observations of today's athletes.


... said the guy who bet on the Broncos over the Seahawks.


Yes...the guy who bet on them to lose to the Seahawks and made a nice little return!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 12:40 PM

Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.



Interesting point and I wholeheartedly agree. However, and to your point, aren't colleges taking risks by committing to these kids? Somebody stated that best players now will be the best players in 4 years and I don't agree with that.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.


They may get a physical game from a modern varsity program and games would be close. They would run circles around your varsity team from yesteryear.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.


They may get a physical game from a modern varsity program and games would be close. They would run circles around your varsity team from yesteryear.


The games would not be close, and Turtles will not be starting on varsity unless they come from a weak school district. They do not look anywhere as skilled as everyone thinks when versing a decent varsity team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell us your are not serious. I know a lot
of the turtles players personally. As skilled and
great lax players as they are, they would get
Beat up physically by a varsity team. Stop putting
them up there. Not mature enough to handle
It. I know you'll say they beat some already,
Most of those varsity teams had their players playing
Varsity football or Varsity soccer. Not freshmen
football and freshmen soccer. Big difference.
So please stop with this nonsense already. They
Are GREAT 2017 players. And that's the class they
should be compared to.


They may get a physical game from a modern varsity program and games would be close. They would run circles around your varsity team from yesteryear.
My varsity team from the lat 80's had 2 hall of famers on it, do you really thick your son could beat us?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 04:45 PM

This has to be a child saying this nonsense!!!!
The varsity teams of yesteryear would also beat
the 2017's of today. Please stop. I coach a prominent
2017 team and wish to remain anonymous.
Been around the game a long time. Been there and
done it. The varsity teams as you call it of "yesteryear"
would beat them and beat them handily. End this
conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
This has to be a child saying this nonsense!!!!
The varsity teams of yesteryear would also beat
the 2017's of today. Please stop. I coach a prominent
2017 team and wish to remain anonymous.
Been around the game a long time. Been there and
done it. The varsity teams as you call it of "yesteryear"
would beat them and beat them handily. End this
conversation.


why remain anonymous?
What are your personal credentials?
Revisionist historians are all over the net. At least the kids of today have legit credentials that can be verified on line.
Face it...your glory days are over and BTW, what prominent team are you bringing to current glory?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 05:03 PM

I played then and I have watched now, I think it depends on which era's equipment and rules you use. In the 80's we cleared the crease by running through guys, you cant play that way anymore. todays sticks dont drop the ball much and the shots are a lot faster and harder. The athletes are the same
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 05:48 PM

The real question is do you/they think Varsity programs of Yesteryear 80-90 could beat todays varsity programs.

IMHO, I don't think so. While cks got the ball out more and thats more of an equipment rule. The Team Skill and speed will beat out Skill and Size. Also IMHO that brusing intimidation play no longer exists due to rules and safety not choice of play.

Speed kills ya. Size just hurts you!!!

What say you any placid players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
This has to be a child saying this nonsense!!!!
The varsity teams of yesteryear would also beat
the 2017's of today. Please stop. I coach a prominent
2017 team and wish to remain anonymous.
Been around the game a long time. Been there and
done it. The varsity teams as you call it of "yesteryear"
would beat them and beat them handily. End this
conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 08:54 PM

Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 08:58 PM

Today's varsity would beat 80's varsity. Hands down.
Played then. All the credentials you could receive.
Coach now. Today is better. NOT the 9th graders
beating a varsity team though. Sorry. Can't give you that.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/13/14 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 12:59 AM

We'll said. Problem is most parents of these fine laxers never played and are wowed by their skill. Which is great by the way but to say they can compete with varsity teams of the past is ridiculous. When they are in HS they might have quick hands and finesse but being it is a contact sport they are defiantly not nearly as tough and physical as we were. And yes I played at a Big HS on LI as well as a top D1 college in mid 80's.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 02:21 AM

Ever go back to your old elementary school? Looks at lot smaller than you remember it. People remember their past glory to suit themselves. I catch myself doing it too. But boys, seriously, there isn't even an argument here, lacrosse of the 80s was really a joke. Your team probably did dominate because most districts didn't even have teams back then and most who did completely sucked, there was no competition for even mildly talented teams. You want to keep telling yourselves you were studs and ruled the lacrosse world, that's fine because at that time you did. The rest of us can put it perspective and not try to compare the the greatly developed game played today. Yes we were just as good athletes back then, but playing at a much lower level, period.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.

As Larry the Cable Guy would say, "Now that right there is funny". Even though I am a former player from that time period that is being somewhat disparaged, the English major in me is happy to read such well written, funny as [lacrosse] post. Well done!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 02:32 AM

I laugh when I hear about these old tough guys. I worked in a jail for decades. Saw numerous kids from and areas who at the age of 15, 15 had survived gun shots and stabbings. Who grew up in conditions where you better learn to survive. Nobody's tougher then these kids so by your theory these bad areas schools would have whooped you outright
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.


Truth by who?
A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I laugh when I hear about these old tough guys. I worked in a jail for decades. Saw numerous kids from and areas who at the age of 15, 15 had survived gun shots and stabbings. Who grew up in conditions where you better learn to survive. Nobody's tougher then these kids so by your theory these bad areas schools would have whooped you outright

I certainly appreciate your tough former occupation, however that analogy is ridiculous.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


This has to be a joke. If it is not I suggest that you get help as soon as possible.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 03:46 AM

in the 70's we played with really heavy traditionally strung sticks - wrestling knee pads as arm guards. In the fall most of us played football and in the winter we played basketball and pick up box lacrosse on the tennis courts. Over the summer we played one day a week game only no practices. And some of us were really good. The game was different as well, Middies played both ways, attack were all 5' 2" and weighed 135lbs. D were all football players trying to stay in shape. And if anybody used his off hand we all took notice. Today's players all have sticks in there hands 12 months a year and have specialized positions. there are kids on high school teams today that do not get any playing time that would be the most skilled players from "yesteryear's" high school team you can not compare then to now because it is truly a different game.

Having said all that, I think we had a [lacrosse] of a lot more fun back then, being a lacrosse player in the 70's meant a few things like - 1) you sucked at baseball 2) you were a bro before you knew what that was 3) you could beat the crap out of your opponent on the field an then go to the parking lot and have a beer (or 5) with them and you knew you were a playing the greatest sport in the world for fun, not to commit to a college in 9th grade or to win a championship with your club team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
We'll said. Problem is most parents of these fine laxers never played and are wowed by their skill. Which is great by the way but to say they can compete with varsity teams of the past is ridiculous. When they are in HS they might have quick hands and finesse but being it is a contact sport they are defiantly not nearly as tough and physical as we were. And yes I played at a Big HS on LI as well as a top D1 college in mid 80's.


All I can say is puff puff pass! You two must be enjoying some good ole stuff.

If you are truly as amazing as you profess, or a fan and keep up with the sport you would know the differences of the two era's.

I can take it to another level, do you really think College players of those times can compete with those now.

Good luck to your sons who can never live up to good ole dad
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.


Truth by who?
A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again


well considering the fact that WM had only one state champion wrestler in the 1980's and it was in 1981... news flash, you are old. If you live in the three villages now you should be more concerned with the youth program. The men who stole the program some years ago have ruined it. Yeah Yeah I know
wM won a state championship last year. I wish WM well this year and I think the HS coaches are good but three village board has ruined the youth league.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 09:46 AM

I still don't get this guy. He thinks that a team of 9th
graders would beat some championship teams of the
80's and 90's . This has nothing to do with being tough.
It's common sense. He's saying there was no skill involved
back then, just brutish lax being played. What are his credentials?
What great athletic feats has he accomplished? Or is he
the one who is living his glory through a 9th grader
who he thinks are the best ever!!! Comical. Simply comical.
You need to sit back and enjoy your kid. Stop comparing him to older players
you probably never saw play. Who cares???????
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 04:07 PM

Don't forget the best player ever might have played in the 50's..

Jim Brown Didn't cradle much but he didn't have too. nobody then or today could stop him.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 04:25 PM

My occupation is meaningless. My point os kids from poorer towns are tougher so they should be better according to the argument being made here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I laugh when I hear about these old tough guys. I worked in a jail for decades. Saw numerous kids from and areas who at the age of 15, 15 had survived gun shots and stabbings. Who grew up in conditions where you better learn to survive. Nobody's tougher then these kids so by your theory these bad areas schools would have whooped you outright

I certainly appreciate your tough former occupation, however that analogy is ridiculous.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 06:00 PM

This whole conversation is ridiculous!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.


Truth by who?
A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again


[lacrosse] Hum.....I'm sorry, I dozed off during your brief and defensive diatribe out of sheer boredom. If you played lacrosse as weakly as your written retorts are; then it was you who was on the bench my clearly disillusioned and academically challenged friend.
As to your assumption that I didn't play sports?...I competed for a D1 school and achieved a national ranking of top 5 in my discipline. I would discuss Olympic trials with you but what would be the point. I'm just a bench warmer. As to my son? Let's just say his current status precludes me from saying more other than his his game has already spoken for itself and his commitment confirms that.
Et tu, Brutus?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 08:33 PM

The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear.
Posted By: CageSage

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear.
(a) Did you read what you actually wrote?

(b) Do you really believe this?

(c) How would you prove it? The games are completely different.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 09:07 PM

Sure you did. I actually was on the Olympic team. Not just
the trials. And I'm real sure your son committed.
Did you ever play lax? Or are you determining your sons
Inevitable victory over yesteryears lax programs
on what you perceive is your sons vastly superior
talent. [lacrosse] him.....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now you sound like a petty little person. Your still
saying a 14 yr old will beat a 17 - 18 yr old. Amazing!!!
I guess you win this argument. Congrats. The turtles
and the dukes of today would beat the ward melvilles,
garden city's, massapequa's, farmingdale's, yorktown's
and west genesee's of the 80's. Also the chaminade's
and st Anthony's. Do you realize how silly you sound now?


Lets just drop the age group difference and leave it at todays varsity programs of (fill in your district here) would beat the [lacrosse] out of same districts varsity program from 15-25 years ago.


You people are nuts!! I played for Melville back in the 80's under Couzzo. We destroyed every other team on LI. Our F/O guy was a state champ wrestler. Other guys were football superstars. My teammates were all self-motivated, in fact parents hardly even came to the games, and there were no training sessions and travel teams. Only wish we could bring it on! This is all nonsense. Today's teams may have better equipment, but our athleticism and heart are no match for today's spoiled, soft kids! My kids play for Melville now, and although they are still great, kids today are way more distracted with other things.


It's obvious that you will never get back from your long trip of self aggrandizement; and its a pity that you hold your son and his peers in such low regard in comparison to your former self inflated memories. Who exactly made your kid soft and spoiled?

Who cares who you played for? Did that some how infuse you with superhuman traits that will never be surpassed by the mere mortals of today?...the other teams of that time were equally as inept skill wise as yours. Your team may have come out on top, but it was in an era of lower skills being supplemented by aggression. (And what pray tell, does being a state champ in wrestling even mean? Did he "wrestle" the ball away with a half Nelson??)

"Football super stars. Destroying teams. Bring it on. No match to your athleticism and heart."
Do you see a commonality here in your choice of testosterone infused wording? If there was ever a case of narcissistic self importance; this is textbook.

News flash for you....you're old now and never in your wildest dreams will your inflated recollection of your abilities ever match the skill sets of the kids of today no matter how distorted your sense of self achievement is.

Truth.


Truth by who?
A loser who never played sports. My kids are not soft, that was a reference in today's athletes in general. My recollection is based on facts. sorry you were never part of some of the best teams LI ever saw. I'm not old as you suggest, and even if I was that would be insulting, but I guess that would be what I would expect coming from the parent of a bench warmer. The only reason someone would react with such anger! Try again


[lacrosse] Hum.....I'm sorry, I dozed off during your brief and defensive diatribe out of sheer boredom. If you played lacrosse as weakly as your written retorts are; then it was you who was on the bench my clearly disillusioned and academically challenged friend.
As to your assumption that I didn't play sports?...I competed for a D1 school and achieved a national ranking of top 5 in my discipline. I would discuss Olympic trials with you but what would be the point. I'm just a bench warmer. As to my son? Let's just say his current status precludes me from saying more other than his his game has already spoken for itself and his commitment confirms that.
Et tu, Brutus?


Fencing Team? Skipper.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The game has progressed so far that a modern day girls varsity team would be a boys varsity from yesteryear.
(a) Did you read what you actually wrote?

(b) Do you really believe this?

(c) How would you prove it? The games are completely different.


I was looking to get a rise out of a select few lax dads from another era, so yes I know what I wrote, but I do not believe it to be true. And you are also right that you can't make that comparison. I am on the side that todays varsity teams would crush my era (80's), and find the thought of those who are arguing differently, very funny.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 10:31 PM

So the rudderless ship has veered off course a bit. However, it is entertaining, I am not ashamed to admit. Can somebody tell me what this origin of this thread was again. It should be retitled "Jabberwocky 101". And then combine it with the last 20 or so posts in the 2018 thread. And don't bother with those of you who use a go to line of "stop trolling". I have a 2018er and 2023er - although I don't know what the heck this has to do with 2023 lax. And since context is so often lost in most forum responses - my response was completely lighthearted.

Can't wait for tournaments to start again. The weather is giving a us cabin fever and we (present party included) are somewhat losing it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you did. I actually was on the Olympic team. Not just
the trials. And I'm real sure your son committed.
Did you ever play lax? Or are you determining your sons
Inevitable victory over yesteryears lax programs
on what you perceive is your sons vastly superior
talent. [lacrosse] him.....


Um...it is, [lacrosse] Hum....Brutus...

Why would I lie to you? I'm not the one making outrageous claims of superiority.

The fact is; the performances I did in the 80's at the peak of my NCAA rankings are now being surpassed by the best of the best of today's high schoolers; as my own performances did to the generation prior to mine. Kids are stronger, faster, bigger and yes, tougher. They train with the intensity in high school today equal to, or even superior to that of my peak training prior to the trials.

Cant you see? My ego is in check. I know I'm older. I know the kids of today would have kicked the [lacrosse] of my best performances of yesteryear. Facts are facts. And I love how much training principles and techniques have progressed and am happy to admire the strengths of today's young athletes. But I am not envious of, or belittling of their prowess as you are apt to be.

Face it...you were and are owned. Period.

Game, set and match.

Now spare us all from further boredom with your unstimulating rants.

(And you didn't even catch my little play on William's Brute' being substituted with Brutus. I'm so disappointed. We can surely agree that today's players are at least more intelligent in expressing themselves than you are today or in your yesteryear glory days.)

I tire of your meager attempts to claim a victory.

Next.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you did. I actually was on the Olympic team. Not just
the trials. And I'm real sure your son committed.
Did you ever play lax? Or are you determining your sons
Inevitable victory over yesteryears lax programs
on what you perceive is your sons vastly superior
talent. [lacrosse] him.....


Um...it is, [lacrosse] Hum....Brutus...

Why would I lie to you? I'm not the one making outrageous claims of superiority.

The fact is; the performances I did in the 80's at the peak of my NCAA rankings are now being surpassed by the best of the best of today's high schoolers; as my own performances did to the generation prior to mine. Kids are stronger, faster, bigger and yes, tougher. They train with the intensity in high school today equal to, or even superior to that of my peak training prior to the trials.

Cant you see? My ego is in check. I know I'm older. I know the kids of today would have kicked the [lacrosse] of my best performances of yesteryear. Facts are facts. And I love how much training principles and techniques have progressed and am happy to admire the strengths of today's young athletes. But I am not envious of, or belittling of their prowess as you are apt to be.

Face it...you were and are owned. Period.

Game, set and match.

Now spare us all from further boredom with your unstimulating rants.

(And you didn't even catch my little play on William's Brute' being substituted with Brutus. I'm so disappointed. We can surely agree that today's players are at least more intelligent in expressing themselves than you are today or in your yesteryear glory days.)

I tire of your meager attempts to claim a victory.

Next.



Good post right up to this:

"Face it...you were and are owned. Period.

Game, set and match.

Now spare us all from further boredom with your unstimulating rants.

(And you didn't even catch my little play on William's Brute' being substituted with Brutus. I'm so disappointed. We can surely agree that today's players are at least more intelligent in expressing themselves than you are today or in your yesteryear glory days.)

I tire of your meager attempts to claim a victory.

Next. "


Seriously, you just bring it down to the level that prompted you to post in the first place, negating your argument.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/14/14 11:45 PM

Just happened by this immature argument. Can't believe
It's actually going on. Two points: 1) who cares who was better. 2) this poster
May be the most arrogant, obnoxious ever to grace
this great site. Please, you understand you are on a 2023
Thread bragging about your Olympic dreams and that of your, from
what I gather, your 9th grade sons lax dreams. Do us all a favor and
go practice with your son so maybe one day he can be as
great as you think you are. Oh and by the way you're not
impressing anyone with your vocabulary. Just move on and go watch the
Olympics and think what might have been.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure you did. I actually was on the Olympic team. Not just
the trials. And I'm real sure your son committed.
Did you ever play lax? Or are you determining your sons
Inevitable victory over yesteryears lax programs
on what you perceive is your sons vastly superior
talent. [lacrosse] him.....


Um...it is, [lacrosse] Hum....Brutus...

Why would I lie to you? I'm not the one making outrageous claims of superiority.

The fact is; the performances I did in the 80's at the peak of my NCAA rankings are now being surpassed by the best of the best of today's high schoolers; as my own performances did to the generation prior to mine. Kids are stronger, faster, bigger and yes, tougher. They train with the intensity in high school today equal to, or even superior to that of my peak training prior to the trials.

Cant you see? My ego is in check. I know I'm older. I know the kids of today would have kicked the [lacrosse] of my best performances of yesteryear. Facts are facts. And I love how much training principles and techniques have progressed and am happy to admire the strengths of today's young athletes. But I am not envious of, or belittling of their prowess as you are apt to be.

Face it...you were and are owned. Period.

Game, set and match.

Now spare us all from further boredom with your unstimulating rants.

(And you didn't even catch my little play on William's Brute' being substituted with Brutus. I'm so disappointed. We can surely agree that today's players are at least more intelligent in expressing themselves than you are today or in your yesteryear glory days.)

I tire of your meager attempts to claim a victory.

Next.



Good post right up to this:

"Face it...you were and are owned. Period.

Game, set and match.

Now spare us all from further boredom with your unstimulating rants.

(And you didn't even catch my little play on William's Brute' being substituted with Brutus. I'm so disappointed. We can surely agree that today's players are at least more intelligent in expressing themselves than you are today or in your yesteryear glory days.)

I tire of your meager attempts to claim a victory.

Next. "


Seriously, you just bring it down to the level that prompted you to post in the first place, negating your argument.



Yeah....kinda went overboard with that last bit... My bad.

Wasn't really intending to descend to those depths, but I just can't imagine Brutus being anything but a bully growing up and felt he would only listen to that level of wording; as he wasn't able to comprehend nor respond to the not so subtle more salient points of previous posts.

I apologize to the forum for letting that get out of control.

I concede to the Bully.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just happened by this immature argument. Can't believe
It's actually going on. Two points: 1) who cares who was better. 2) this poster
May be the most arrogant, obnoxious ever to grace
this great site. Please, you understand you are on a 2023
Thread bragging about your Olympic dreams and that of your, from
what I gather, your 9th grade sons lax dreams. Do us all a favor and
go practice with your son so maybe one day he can be as
great as you think you are. Oh and by the way you're not
impressing anyone with your vocabulary. Just move on and go watch the
Olympics and think what might have been.


That hurt. Here's a tip for you. Read the OP's first post. It is not a serious topic and it was taken way off course by Brutus. Sometimes a bully has to be put in his place.

Sorry if my vocabulary isn't from the remedial reading section.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 03:45 AM

This is a funny thread, and quite entertaining to say the least -- I actually hope it keeps trudging along until spring - but the English professor's comments have become somewhat overbearing -- Honestly though, NCAA Best of the 80's/early 90's vs Best of today in a 7 game series - 'Today' goes 4-3 but they ain't feeling too sharp the morning after each game -- Would be one helluva series to watch though - I'm thinking it may just go OT in game 7 as well - What's a 'Turtle' by the way?? cool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 12:38 PM

Read all the posts and it seems YOU were the bully.
Too much bragging about your accomplishments and
your ncaa rankings and how today's 9th graders could beat
past varsity teams. Then you were the one putting
other posters down. Diminishing their accomishments
In the sport of lacrosse when it seems you never played the game
but verbalize like you have. Your son is young, enjoy it. Stop comparing
him and his team to other older players who have already done what
your son is trying to do. Remember he hasn't done it yet.
Things change. Good luck to you and your family. Hopefully all his dreams
will be fulfilled in the game of lacrosse. That's what it's all about.
Not who's team would beat who.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Read all the posts and it seems YOU were the bully.
Too much bragging about your accomplishments and
your ncaa rankings and how today's 9th graders could beat
past varsity teams. Then you were the one putting
other posters down. Diminishing their accomishments
In the sport of lacrosse when it seems you never played the game
but verbalize like you have. Your son is young, enjoy it. Stop comparing
him and his team to other older players who have already done what
your son is trying to do. Remember he hasn't done it yet.
Things change. Good luck to you and your family. Hopefully all his dreams
will be fulfilled in the game of lacrosse. That's what it's all about.
Not who's team would beat who.


Clearly you've missed the point of the whole discussion with Brutus stating kids of yesteryear are and were far superior and tougher and the use of intimidation as a skill and compared them to those of today who are soft and spoiled and not measuring up to his standard of the word 'athlete'; and you also missed my acceptance and support that the kids of today are in fact stronger and tougher that yesteryear as was attempted to be claimed by a bully.
If you don't like how easily a bully can be put in his place that's your problem. I only brought up my experienced to illustrate how minimal that they truly are now compared to today's athletes. Brutus is having trouble comprehending that.
Get it? Can I spell it out for you more clearly?

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 02:08 PM

Sorry...if anyone was put in their place it was you.
And you were the one who acted the bully. Your posts claimed how players
Past could not compete with a bunch of 9th graders.
100% false. But again you wouldn't know cause
you never played. Enjoy the Olympics. Dreamer.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry...if anyone was put in their place it was you.
And you were the one who acted the bully. Your posts claimed how players
Past could not compete with a bunch of 9th graders.
100% false. But again you wouldn't know cause
you never played. Enjoy the Olympics. Dreamer.


Stop...you're being silly.

Now go and read the comics in the paper or watch cartoons on television. The plot lines aren't too demanding and you might even learn something. And be sure to tell your kids that the superheroes of yesterday could kick the [lacrosse] out of today's. :-)

(Can we please get a minimal IQ and reading comprehension score to be posted prior to posting on this site?)

Jeez....you guys are really sensitive about those glory daze (spelling pun intended for those who need footnotes)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry...if anyone was put in their place it was you.
And you were the one who acted the bully. Your posts claimed how players
Past could not compete with a bunch of 9th graders.
100% false. But again you wouldn't know cause
you never played. Enjoy the Olympics. Dreamer.


Stop...you're being silly.

Now go and read the comics in the paper or watch cartoons on television. The plot lines aren't too demanding and you might even learn something. And be sure to tell your kids that the superheroes of yesterday could kick the [lacrosse] out of today's. :-)

(Can we please get a minimal IQ and reading comprehension score to be posted prior to posting on this site?)

Jeez....you guys are really sensitive about those glory daze (spelling pun intended for those who need footnotes)


You must be a real pleasure to be around with your condescending comments and superiority complex! You attempts at wit are failing miserably and you simply appear as a jackass. Please stop it!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 07:17 PM

I'm Calling it

R.I.P. 2023 commits thread

02/07/14 09:21 AM - 02/15/14 02/17 PM

it had a short, yet undistinguished run

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 07:50 PM

This arrogant guy really thinks he is better and smarter than
everyone else. Still didn't answer the question: what
makes you an authority on everything lacrosse? Did you play?
Ir are you basing everything on what you read in books about
Lacrosse. It must be lax for dummies, cause that's how
you sound. Or have you learned everything that's needed
from the vast experience of your 14 yr old child. Yep your the bully.
Game. Set. Match. Good night Irene. And with that
I shall sign off for last time. Bye bye bully.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/15/14 08:06 PM

Did this arrogant poster ever play the game of lacrosse?
Simple question. Please answer.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
This arrogant guy really thinks he is better and smarter than
everyone else. Still didn't answer the question: what
makes you an authority on everything lacrosse? Did you play?
Ir are you basing everything on what you read in books about
Lacrosse. It must be lax for dummies, cause that's how
you sound. Or have you learned everything that's needed
from the vast experience of your 14 yr old child. Yep your the bully.
Game. Set. Match. Good night Irene. And with that
I shall sign off for last time. Bye bye bully.


Your last rant mplies that you've signed off before? Stick to your guns. You're the tough guy from the '80's. your new name will be Biff. (Named for the greatest has been bully of the '80's)
Please see YOUR original post regarding the toughness of your generation vs the softness and spoiled nature of this generation. I dint chime in until your boast prompted me to refute our silly statement. You couldn't say anything of substance nor come up with a substantiated argument for your toughness cause.

I will pronounce this thread a flatline wrt your inept attempts to further your inflamed opinions. No resuscitative attempt need be made. There actually is no game set or match; as it wasn't a fair match at all. I am a bully for picking on your inferior intellectual status. I apologize. (That means I'm sorry)
Please continue to go forward at the bowling alley with your pals reliving your amazing glory days and please never stop pontificating how great you were. Must be nice to be so great. And tough. And intimidating. (Your words).

(And my son is 16, btw, and I did infact play the game. 3 letter sports per year, Biff)

I will leave you to your thoughts of grandeur. I shan't miss you or this pitiful discourse.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 03:37 AM

......my thought is that he never picked up stick prior to his current involvement
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This arrogant guy really thinks he is better and smarter than
everyone else. Still didn't answer the question: what
makes you an authority on everything lacrosse? Did you play?
Ir are you basing everything on what you read in books about
Lacrosse. It must be lax for dummies, cause that's how
you sound. Or have you learned everything that's needed
from the vast experience of your 14 yr old child. Yep your the bully.
Game. Set. Match. Good night Irene. And with that
I shall sign off for last time. Bye bye bully.


Your last rant mplies that you've signed off before? Stick to your guns. You're the tough guy from the '80's. your new name will be Biff. (Named for the greatest has been bully of the '80's)
Please see YOUR original post regarding the toughness of your generation vs the softness and spoiled nature of this generation. I dint chime in until your boast prompted me to refute our silly statement. You couldn't say anything of substance nor come up with a substantiated argument for your toughness cause.

I will pronounce this thread a flatline wrt your inept attempts to further your inflamed opinions. No resuscitative attempt need be made. There actually is no game set or match; as it wasn't a fair match at all. I am a bully for picking on your inferior intellectual status. I apologize. (That means I'm sorry)
Please continue to go forward at the bowling alley with your pals reliving your amazing glory days and please never stop pontificating how great you were. Must be nice to be so great. And tough. And intimidating. (Your words).

(And my son is 16, btw, and I did infact play the game. 3 letter sports per year, Biff)

I will leave you to your thoughts of grandeur. I shan't miss you or this pitiful discourse.


For someone who claims to know everything, and sprinkle it with patronizing vocabulary, I would have thought you wold realize that there are THREE (had to spell it out for you) different posters calling you out on you rude, disrespectful and downright bizarre comments. I never signed out. Just back once again pointing out what a fool you are. I have not seen one post in support of your ridiculous comments. I think it is time for you to sign out. Please stop embarrassing yourself, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
......my thought is that he never picked up stick prior to his current involvement


Agreed! And thanks for standing up to the bully! Scary there are people like him out there! So angry and Weird!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 04:18 PM

In the new vs old argument, consider this ...

If you account for (and equalize) the equipment in each era, who would you take:

1. Rob Pannell or Paul Rabil with a 1956 wood stick

OR

2. Jim Brown with a Rabil X (or Super Power).

Sorry, on this analysis, the old guy wins in the old era, and in the new era. Our boys are not any more highly evolved than the athletes back in the day. Better trained with an earlier focus, yes. But your kid isn't ever going to be Jim Brown. And he probably isn't going to be Rob Pannell or Paul Rabil either.

And honestly, you would probably not have let him play the "old version of the game" if you could see it first hand -- you are underestimating the size and speed of the guys who played long ago, and you are discounting toughness to a point that, back then, would have been deemed dangerously foolish. Anyway, have a read:
http://sportsillustrated.ca/vault/article/magazine/MAG1129606/index.htm
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 04:43 PM

If he had ever really played the game he would no
be running his mouth this way. That's for sure.
Posted By: CageSage

Re: 2023 commits - 02/16/14 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And honestly, you would probably not have let him play the "old version of the game" if you could see it first hand -- you are underestimating the size and speed of the guys who played long ago, and you are discounting toughness to a point that, back then, would have been deemed dangerously foolish. Anyway, have a read:
http://sportsillustrated.ca/vault/article/magazine/MAG1129606/index.htm
Yes indeed, read the article and focus on the second paragraph and hear the words as written in 1955. Now, think whether this writing would be acceptable in 2014. Sixty years represents a great deal of time; cultural aspects change over time.

So too, the game changes - all games change. Comparing football, baseball, basketball, and hockey across generations has widely been recognized as an exercise in futility in both sports radio and print media. Equipment changes, preparation changs, and style of play changes. The best we can do is argue for the best in a particular era - compared with others from that era.

Let's take this discussion back to now. It makes no difference whatsoever whether player A from the 1980s was better than player B from the 2010s - much less player C from 1955. Time moves forward and so too the game.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/01/14 05:10 PM

I heard there is a 3rd grader on the Express that Johns Hopkins is looking at.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/01/14 10:50 PM

LOL!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/01/14 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard there is a 3rd grader on the Express that Johns Hopkins is looking at.


If this is true this is outrageous both the parents and the college coaches should be ashamed of themselves, this is so typical of the express to promote their players like this.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard there is a 3rd grader on the Express that Johns Hopkins is looking at.


If this is true this is outrageous both the parents and the college coaches should be ashamed of themselves, this is so typical of the express to promote their players like this.


LOL!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 12:09 PM

Wow this person doesn't get sarcasm.
Lighten up!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow this person doesn't get sarcasm.
Lighten up!!!!!


to whom are you referring, the original post that was anything but original? the reply that was clearly written by a sarcastic person who "get's it"?

It will suck for you when you look in the mirror today and realize "wow, i don't get sarcasm, I need to lighten up!!!!!!!"
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 02:10 PM

With help from local scientists Team 91 has successfully engineered a genetically superior embryo that is being auctioned to the highest D1 bidder, no parents attached.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
With help from local scientists Team 91 has successfully engineered a genetically superior embryo that is being auctioned to the highest D1 bidder, no parents attached.


I am sure there are some LI parents who would want to buy this embryo also ($$ well spent from what I hear) You know, the ones that held their kid back in Pre-K for that 'athletic' advantage......yes, we ALL know what you did wink - Maybe they will do an eBay auction on this
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/02/14 07:03 PM

This embryo will decide this weekend on Hopkins, Virginia, UNC or Maryland. Quint Kessenich has the exclusive coverage of its decision. Dave Pietramala is very upset about the early recruiting of an embryo but has indeed offered a full scholarship.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/03/14 02:39 AM

Petro is old and outdated!!
The new generation is here and better!!!
We are branching out across America!!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2023 commits - 03/03/14 01:10 PM

The Express has exclusive rights, and they will be called the 2031 Tenacious Embryos.
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