US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) NLF Rankings VS Inside Lacrosse

What happened to the Texas nationals....mad dog nationals, red hots, advnc ndp? All got blocked out too? Funny that you could still pretend that NLF is a big deal . You can look at the lineup and already see who will be playing in the winners brackets .....eclipse ,91, express, crabs ,kings and west coast strz...maybe lax black . The rest should just stay home

You sound very upset. Maybe go for a walk. If you keep talking to yourself on the walk, call your doctor. Or if your son still talks to you try him out at the same NLF team again. Maybe the other one down the road if you need a change. Maybe this is the year. Tryouts are just around the corner. Life is short. The glass is half full. You can do it. Just do it!

Ultimately it doesn't matter what you (or I) think. What do the scouts think? are the scouts gonna be lining the sidelines? I'm willing to bet the scouts don't think it's watered down and will be there with their cute little chairs and clipboards taking notes on kids that aren't your son. Tryouts are right around the corner. Time to get some work in and get on one of these NLF teams baby!

Again, how man kids from Lax yellow get recruited. I bet a bunch. In new england, it pays be in their organization. when your "b" team is top 20 it doesn't really feel like a b team.

Again it's not about winning the tournament and being crowned the "National Champion". 95% of the people there couldn't care less about that accolade. They aren't there to win the whole thing. They are there to get eyes on them. What don't you understand?

Top 20? Lol.....that team loses by two touchdowns at most tournaments...double diiall the time . Not a top 20 team ...what r u smoking ?

What happened to the Texas nationals? Also got kicked out ?

Lunatics. It’s not about winning this year. It’s about getting your son looks and on the radar by college coaches. Those coaches could care less what team wins or loses. The constant bickering about who plays what tourney is ridiculous NLF Etc. just enjoy the recruiting process. If your son is a good player. They will find him.

Yes, but if you’re playing in the wrong tourney and getting rinsed, then hard to get looks when getting beat badly

True. Coaches aren’t necessarily watching scores but if your son’s team is in the best tournaments and playing deeply into the championship bracket, that equates to more views which is definitely what your son wants.

You can views at a prospect day. Showcase or even a high school lacrosse season being on the best team isn’t only way to get on radar. Does it help sure. But not only way ..

350 college coaches at NLF this past weekend. A must attend if serious about lacrosse.

I’m not serious about lacrosse and even I was there.
Tryout for your local NLF team and get a front row seat to greatness

Not sure why everyone bashes NLF. Generally you going to play good teams if you are in the higher bracket. Hard pressed to find many other tournaments that have such a high concentration of top ranked teams (maybe Naptown and CrabFeast?). Coaches are clearly going. Yale Coach said at another event that even he goes to NLF. So for those bashing NLF, you can always stay at home.

That being said, I am generally not a big fan of club lacrosse and for those of you that are frustrated you can always drop club and spend your time and money going to a prospect days and showcases instead. But all in all I feel like the NLF is one of the better tournaments.

As advertised by far the most colleges there of any event. More than double the combined next two.Combined with NLF Opener there is little need for any other summer tournaments. Making a huge mistake if not part of these two.

The product on the fields is hands down the best that being said, the media company, rankings provider and showcase organizer also works for two NLF clubs. there is no Accountability

When does IL drop their list? The comparison will be interesting. It’s more for bragging rights it seems for the top clubs because whether it’s IL, NLF or Lax Magazine, most, if not all, of those players are going to be recruited by Christmas.

who runs lacrosse magazine

how about 4 kids missing from top 10

a bunch of clowns.

Who or what is behind lacrossemagazine.com? They appear to be ranking players, and then these get posted on social media. I'm curious as to how they determine these. As best I can tell, the girl player rankings look to be largely based upon who plays and stands out at either UA or AS.

They dont watch anything. You have to fill out a form and market yourself to some flunky who then sits down and ranks them. It is a highlight reel ranking done in a basement. Forget the rankings, did you even know there is a lacrossemagazine.com I think my kid has more followers.

Agreed ....but NLF has become a joke.to . anything run by chandick is a complete joke . He ranks all 91 coaches players high . Even his one percent showcases are laughable. They're a 91 love fest

Speaking for the 2024 class, the rankings are absolute key. I’m in no way saying they are accurate, but they absolutely matter. They create a feeding frenzy for the top 100 players, especially the top 50. They create HUGE demand for these players. Are they accurate? No, of course not. Do they matter? Yes. They matter in a very big way. Good luck to all of the ‘25s.

My son was on 91 for 10 years. Your statement is correct. But guess what? It’s the same with every other organization that runs events and has a vested interest in those events. This is club lacrosse. Said another way, this is $$$$$ lacrosse where everything is motivated by the all mighty dollar.

People like to bash 91 simply out of jealousy because they are now the biggest and the best. That brings out the small people. The haters. However, most top club teams are far more unethical than 91.

How many times was I approached by a 91 director and told to reclass in order for my son to stay “elite”? Absolutely never. Nor was anyone else on his #1 ranked (unanimous) team of 99% holdback free. That absolutely doesn’t happen on other top ranked teams.

In 10 years, my sons team had 1 person that could be considered a holdback, who was on the team as a favor and would be considered a holdback, by WSYL standards, by only 4 HOURS. That’s not even an holdback by MD standards. Other than that, never, ever had a holdback. Majority of players unchanged since 2nd grade.

Yet, over the 10 year existence of the team, they would have to be considered the best team at the grade. In the 5 years that teams were ranked, their team was ranked #1 3 times (IL, US Club Lacrosse, NLF). That is an astonishing accomplishment in and of itself, but when you consider that every team they played was at minimum a year older, it seems like an impossibility. But that’s what happened.

So you small people keep bashing the doers out there if it makes you feel better. But in the ugly under world of $$$ lacrosse, 91 is as ethical as you will find out there, and the most successful.

NLF Rankings are so bad in a 6 months they had a player in the Top 10, now not even in the Top 30. I guess pops stop writing the checks
or gave up the game..

question- should that player have been in the top 10? i mean seriously

Chandick don't forget your knee pads for when you're around the 91 directors and coaches . And for the ranter above ....maybe get yourself some medication . Nobody was bashing 91, just saying that anything run by chandick is a money grab so relax . Maybe you should join chandick with some knee pads too

Dude...if your son completed 10 years that would mean he's at the end of travel and possibly a senior in high school .....why are you still on youth lacrosse forums ...get a life

You have to give it up to 91 crew they do it the right way, they play there best only showcase a few kids and have there own media team.. well done.

NLF list so far more accurate again.

You are my favorite BOTC knucklehead. You really are, so proud of that 91 WolfPackUpandLeave team that you can bring any discussion to that and holdbacks. If you would actually read the words (letters form words, words for sentences, sentences have meaning, etc) you would see the post had nothing to do with reclassing but calling out Chandick for his 91 skewed rankings and OnePercent Showcase. Holdbacks or not Chandick rankings are skewed, lacrossemagazine doesnt actually exist and I am the proud dad of a reclass. Best decision ever and love to point it out every time you come on here and go on your rant. Ill check back in 5 years and youll still be going on about the same thing. Fire up Bruce and start singing about, them glory days. [Censored]!

Nobody can take NLF rankings seriously.... chandick ranks team 91 players way too high as he is always on his knees for the team 91 coaches.....shouldn't even be a consideration as to this point .

Would think the kids on the #1 ranked teams in country are pretty good, otherwise they would not be top ranked team and win all the time. So pretty logical the kids on the best program in the country are probably the best ranked players. What other great ideas are you cooking up over there?

Matt s--kdik......get your knee pads out for the 91 coaches and coaches kids ...sad . #1 ranked what ...not even close

Good assumption the PP kid didn’t get the rank dad wanted. Getting sauced early eh.

NLF rankings mean didly squat......go take a look on Instagram for all of the top D1 commits from clubs outside of the NLF.....and outside of the northeast as well. Anything that chandick runs is a money grab and nothing else . Stop paying the fool

18 of the top 20 on inside lacrosse rankings come from nlf teams.

Nlf teams and players are the best in the country. Deal with it.

Very true ....and just an FYI ....NLF is not a " group of 6 member clubs " with affiliated clubs . It's Team 91 running the show . Why they would pretend it's anything else if comical

The latest ND commit was graded 84 and 85 this summer yet ranked as a 4 star and #25 overall. Not a shot at him as he looks like a great player but why does IL have kids graded higher that are 3 star and/or unranked? I would’ve thought their ranking would be based on their evaluation.

Stop lying Matt s--kdik....you're a money grabbing clown .

Check inside lacrosse website. Their top 2025’s rankings. Do the count. Far majority of top ranked players on their site come from nlf clubs.