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Did Coppermine really land the MDU middie and 2 other middies from top 5 clubs, or is that apocryphal?

Definitely MDU middie and M&D middie. I believe the comment about Eaglestix was a joke…

MDU, M&D, and what is the 3rd top club?

Confirmed they got the MDU middie, but that’s all I’ve heard. I had not heard about any other new middies from MD top 5.

Oh Boy !!!! It is avoidable but clubs take the easy way out and have multiple parent coaches. That doesn't mean the coaches don't have a good resume. But very rarely can a parent coach be objective. Unless the parent coach's kid is not strong and doesn't play a lot or care about playing a lot (i know is the case in one team at M&D) there will be issues. The main issue is the coaches children taking up roster spots and playing time from better players. Not always but often. And both Heros and Crush parents have the same concern. believe me there are parents on the sideline who are just as qualified if not more than some of these parent coaches. Maybe it's a necessary evil ?!? But Anyone on this board saying it doesn't matter is either a parent coach of some kind themself or their child is not affected by a parent coach's kid. It's naive. It's all about playing time and opportunities and a parent coach's kid as 90% of the time given more of both . Look at the current teams in recruiting now. Maybe you'll all change your mind as you head in to recruiting. Parent coaching at $3k/ year team is just a bad bad idea

Also an M&D middie. The rumored 3rd middie from a top club is still the mystery.

Yes! Coaching objectively is a problem for one of the teams listed. It was obvious because the coaches kids rarely came off the field. Team was full of amazing talent, but couldn’t see past their own kid.

"Just" the MDU and M&D middie make that group absurdly good. That's like 4-5 of the top 20 middies in the age group, and arguably the best one, on the same team. fool. Will be like an NBA superteam playing against college level for some games. They are going to need more than one ball over there.

Agree that it sounded like the Eagle Stix comment was a joke.

Interesting day at Mid-Atlantic. If your team is home this weekend, check the standings on Tourney Machine for a few surprises.

“Interesting day at Mid-Atlantic. If your team is home this weekend, check the standings on Tourney Machine for a few surprises”


Saw that. M&D…yikes. 0-3.

Any insight on this? Missing players? Players that left didn’t play and new additions not there? Just bad day of lax?

Eagle Stix and Aces losses are understandable as they are very good teams, but the LI Liberty loss is a headscratcher.

Pride had a good day after a rough summer. Did they have new additions playing them?

No; they just rallied and continued to improve over the last 3 tournaments. Playing Nationals mid-week was a good tune-up. Better play in all phases, along with high effort.

So 3D Colorado beats Jesters, Eagle Stix, and Crush in succession to win the Mid-Atlantic Club Championships. I saw them play in the Fall and these results would not have been within reach for that team. Wonder if they had some new additions, or just training at high-altitude?!

No, it was the same team as spring NGLL. I don't believe they have yet wrapped up their tryouts for 2023/2024 season.

Don’t forget getting run over by Eagle Stix in NGLL in NC. Probably some special “guest” players.

With the close of the 22/23 club year and tryouts coming to an end: What is your projected 1-6 starting out next year?
1. Coppermine
2. Hero's
3. Crush
4. M&D
5. MD United
6. Skywalkers

Crush and M&D may be interchangeable. Skywalkers is right there too (they got better and moved blue players down to white). MDU is a distant behind those top 5 now that a lot of top players left MDU. Pride may jump ahead of MDU.

I heard this weekend that M&D is going to start fielding a M&D National team as it's top team in the next year or two taking the top girls from all of its teams rather than having the Baltimore Black team be the premier team. Does anyone know if that's true?

MDU didn't lose "a lot of top players", they lost one of the top 2028s. Still plenty of talent there and they added a few more. Kudos to Crush for keeping their talent.

Might as well put Coppermine on a separate tier by themselves. They are a "super-team" as long as they can keep everyone happy with enough opportunities, and don't end up standing around watching each other play hero ball. If they can sustain an attack with movement and passing, they could score 140 goals in NGLL.

Agree that Hero's is number 2 based on how they finished the season, especially if they got stronger with new additions.

Crush looked good at Mid-Atlantic, kept their core, and remain well-coached. Agree they start the '23-'24 season at #3.

M&D will have to rally to re-claim 3rd best in Mid-Atlantic. Sputtered to the finish a bit, but have had some puts and takes in tryout season apparently.

MDU sounds like they are in a tough spot after losing several top players. Not sure they hold to #5.

Sky Walkers will be an interesting team to watch. They built momentum through Summer Genesis Origins and then hung it up for the summer. Still not sure of what the key factors were in their improvement or if they are sustainable, but an impressive finish to the season.

Since someone mentioned a VA team--I will comment that Pride is an interesting one. Ties with Aces and M&D, and a close game with Crush at Mid-Atlantic were promising results. Will be interesting how they grow with new coaches coming down from the '24 team with high school head coaching experience. Couple losses and gains through tryouts, but their core middie group is intact.

This is great for the sport to have a non-east coast team win. Apparently, they just 2 girls from Urban Elite and had one girl move in from California.

Parents said that Team 180 is falling apart at younger age groups and 3D and Urban Elite will be the top CO teams for 28 and beyond.

Regardless, this shows how much the sport in growing.

Go to Laxnumbers. Every year the number of girls from greater Baltimore going D1 is holding or declining. When top clubs from LA, Denver, Minnesota, Chicago all send 10-12 girls division 1, those spots come from somewhere.

Five years ago being the 90th best kid in Maryland would get you an above average D1 offer, now lucky to get any D1 offer at all unless you want to go to Detroit, Lindenwood or Youngstown state.

I have the below for next year:
1. Coppermine
2. Heros
3. Crush
4. M&D
5. Skywalkers
6. Pride
7. MDU

MDU players at practices and tryouts at other teams so yes players are leaving.

I agree Coppermine should be unbeatable but Heros should be able to give them a game. They picked up the top Next Level middie and one from MDU. Crush kept their team together. M&D lost some players and picked up players cut from other teams. Wonder where the Coppermine and Heros players that were cut ended up? SW? MDU?

There's a difference between "players are leaving", which happens at all clubs every year and losing "a lot of top players".

The feedback that I'm seeing from girls and parents in their recruiting years is that getting recruited D1 is about speed, speed, speed. Unless your daughter has unreal attacking moves that wow the crowd every game, she better be really fast, or be a goalie. They're not taking a competent goal scorer or a "high lax IQ" kid that lacks speed, when so much speed is available across the country with all of the new clubs. They can teach the other stuff. This is a broad brush statement and there will be plenty of exceptions, but in general, unless you have some truly unique talent, you better be fast. Please keep this in mind when managing expectations for yourself and your daughter.

Ha…I love how people report information around here. M&D lost some players (as did most teams). Their tryouts concluded first, so I’m not sure how accurate the characterization that they picked up girls “cut from other teams” is. I don’t know about all the players they added, but I do know they picked up girls who were not, nor would have been, cut from their teams. And regardless of a girls prior situation, I’m sure all are good players with good potential.

Exactly, amusing reading the nonsense. Solid players were added and they are happy. That’s all that matters. And Hero’s can think they are giving Coppermine a game but won’t happen.

A few cut Hero’s players went to M & D, so there goes your theory.

Depends if Coppermine plays in a U13 tourney! I also heard Crush kept their best players and may have improved with a couple of pickups.

So they were cut before Heros tryouts ended?

First of all, it’s rude to call girls out like this. Especially when you only sort of think it’s true. Second of all, who cares? Players who are not a good fit for one team may be for another. They’re 13. No one has peaked.

Ouch. Will be U14 next season, but...reasonable point.

If you think they can teach " high lax IQ" you would be mistaken. See it every game. Girls not understanding the importance of space and timing

What theory? How do you know they were cut from Hero's and when did they go to M&D? Sounds like a salty Hero's dad trying to stir up things. Let the girls decide what team is the best fit and worry about your own family and getting your kid better.

No Heros dragged out the cutting process in hopes of girls having to stay on White team. Girls were left scrambling and reaching out to lots of clubs…if they landed at M&D kind of shows that M&D did not have top talent at tryouts if they were adding after their own rosters were supposedly set

It's a balance. Are speed and athleticism key factors, sure. But the notion that you can have elite speed and not be as good at lax, and get recruited over an outstanding player who is fast but not elite, is flawed. There is probably a threshold speed for some positions, but it is only one factor after that.

How do you know they are on M&D? Rosters aren't posted yet.