MD Girls 2028 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

Try this again since the last thread was removed. Let’s keep the dialogue civil so it doesn’t get removed again.

Thanks for restarting it. Hopefully people can behave so we can actually keep this one going.

Even the 2028 tryout page was locked. Why so much detest against the 2028s lol???

Originally Posted by loyo29

Try this again since the last thread was removed. Let’s keep the dialogue civil so it doesn’t get removed again.

I agree. The dialogue should be civil. Every comment should be something a parent would feel appropriate to say to their 11/12/13 year old daughter(s). I have read many posts that I found informative and helpful. Unfortunately, I have read others that appear to be malicious and intended solely to cast someone else or a group in a bad light. Let's act ethical.

Potter Stewart said: "Ethics is knowing the difference between knowing what you have a right to do and what is right to do."

28 parents. Keep doing what you do. Reading your daily dysfunctional posts, makes the rest of us feel good about ourselves.

Since the Tryout thread got locked, some updated info for M&D Tryouts.

Good luck to the 4 playoff teams this weekend. We played 3 of the 4 teams and it should be some great competition!

Seeing as useful information is getting lost in the scuffle and the 2028 tryout thread is now locked. This is semi-updated, but obviously you need to check websites for most current info.

M&D: July 11, 4-6 pm & Tuesday July 12, 6-8 pm @ Garrison Forrest
Coppermine: Week of July 11th
Crush: July 19th & July 21st, 7:30 - 9 @ Perry Hall High School
Next Level: July 12th and 18th at Washington Episcopal
Limelight: July 13, 7:15 - 8:30 & July 15 6-7:15 @ Hereford High School
Sky Walkers: July 11, 12 & 14 and July 18-20 Location: TBA
Maryland United: July 15th through 18th MACC facility in Gambrills
Hero's: Tentatively scheduled the week of July 11-15
HoCo: July 18, 5:30 - 7:30 & July 19, 7:30 - 9 @ Blandair Park
FCA: July 18, 19, 24 @ RCPS
PRIDE: July 18 6:30PM – 8:30PM @ The Madeira School, Grass Field
STARS: July 11 St Stephens and St Agnes School-Upper School Football Field, Alexandria, VA
NEMS: July 19. 20, 21 Rutledge Park, Jarrettsville
RENEGADES: July 19, 2022 Supplemental Tryout : JULY 25, 2022 BLANDAIR PARK, Columbia
CCLAX: July 13 & 14 (Grad Yr 26-32) July 20 (Makeup Tryout) Location: Annapolis High School

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a bash fest but we are looking at Maryland clubs and curious to how/where the MDU club falls in the High School years. Does MDU have a strong recruiting track record? Do their top players stay with MDU through HS or do they leave after 7th or 8th grade and go to the "Big 3"? It looks like their 28 team is their best team out there and from what we have seen/played, they are very very good. Thanks!

Maryland United does have a strong track record in recruiting and just partnered with True Lacrosse to upgrade facilities as well as social media presence which they severely lacked. The winter and fall practices will now be held at Moose Lodge in Glen Burnie which is more convenient for many living outside of Anne Arundel county that they hope to attract as they grow their footprint. They have 28 total college commits so far from their 2023 class which is quite impressive, but not well publicized. The 2028 team is very strong and the expectation is that the core will remain intact and they will add additional talent this summer.

You should be able to find recruiting information (past recruits, schools recruited to) on any club's website. As someone who has an older daughter I will say that there are girls getting recruited to colleges now from way more clubs, cities, areas, states, etc then ever before. Being at the big three of MD and the top two in NY does not mean you will automatically get recruited above other girls anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a bash fest but we are looking at Maryland clubs and curious to how/where the MDU club falls in the High School years. Does MDU have a strong recruiting track record? Do their top players stay with MDU through HS or do they leave after 7th or 8th grade and go to the "Big 3"? It looks like their 28 team is their best team out there and from what we have seen/played, they are very very good. Thanks!

I fully understand your concern when jumping into the top pool. No one wants to be seen as a club hopper, and while it is still "early" the likelihood of switching clubs again before high school doesn't seem very realistic. So, anyone outside of the big 3 high school programs is definitely a risk at this point. If you leave a B+ team for MDU only to find out their best players are leaving for M and D, your situation hasn't really improved. If you are new to the top tier lacrosse scene do you take a chance on the up and coming programs like coppermine or MDU, or do you stick with the battle tested Heros, MandD, and Skywalkers?

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

The fact that a page continues to get removed regarding the 2028 forum, should be very telling. Clearly there are parents that need to chill out and realize that this is just lacrosse. They are in middle school. There is no need to be bashing to the point of a page having to be removed - more than once.

Ask any MDU parent if that club helped the in recruiting process.

Any non-participating parents going to take their daughters to watch the final four and championship game this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ask any MDU parent if that club helped the in recruiting process.

Current 2023 recruits: Skywalkers: 29 (25 D1, 2 DII, 2 DIII)

M&D: 24 (19 DI, 2 DII, 3 DIII)

Heros: 25 ( 20 DI, 5 DII)

MDU: 26 (15 DI, 9 DII, 2 DIII)

Coppermine: 12 (3 DI, 4 DII, 5 DIII)

Integrity: 6 (2 DI, 3 DII, 1 DIII)

Seems like MDU is doing well in recruiting for not being considered one of the "Big 3". If the club doesn't help then congrats to those players and parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Would like to, but I believe they all have tryouts the week...we'll make our decision beforehand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Multiple. With NGLL over, we have reached out to the coaches to let them know we intend to come to tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Multiple. With NGLL over, we have reached out to the coaches to let them know we intend to come to tryouts.

And if Tryouts are on the same day, what is your plan of attack?

We are hoping to try out at more than 1 club as well and are curious how others are handling the possible overlapping schedules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Maybe tough as most clubs want you to be there for all the tryout dates:
M&D: July 11, 4-6 pm & Tuesday July 12, 6-8 pm @ Garrison Forrest
Sky Walkers: July 11, 12 & 14
Coppermine: Week of July 11th

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Sounds like we will see you at tryouts for some of those! Looks like lots of movement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Maybe tough as most clubs want you to be there for all the tryout dates:
M&D: July 11, 4-6 pm & Tuesday July 12, 6-8 pm @ Garrison Forrest
Sky Walkers: July 11, 12 & 14
Coppermine: Week of July 11th

I know the answer is "that's just how they have always done it", but what is the advantage of prohibiting players from trying out for multiple clubs by having tryouts on the same days. I get that you are basically getting committment from the kids if they make it, because they can't try out anywhere else, but don't they also miss out on some potential talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Sounds like we will see you at tryouts for some of those! Looks like lots of movement.

I thought someone mentioned on another thread, or one of the previous 28 threads, that most movement occurs after their 6th grade year. I'm really looking for a program that focuses on advanced development of the girls. Unfortunately, my daughter's current team and others are being run like a rec team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

will you try out for multiple if the dates don't over lap, or making your final decision prior to tryouts?

Maybe tough as most clubs want you to be there for all the tryout dates:
M&D: July 11, 4-6 pm & Tuesday July 12, 6-8 pm @ Garrison Forrest
Sky Walkers: July 11, 12 & 14
Coppermine: Week of July 11th

I know the answer is "that's just how they have always done it", but what is the advantage of prohibiting players from trying out for multiple clubs by having tryouts on the same days. I get that you are basically getting committment from the kids if they make it, because they can't try out anywhere else, but don't they also miss out on some potential talent?

I know what you mean, but understand the clubs point of view too. I guess the teams that have tryouts the week after the initial tryout week will get players that didn't make the cut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Sounds like we will see you at tryouts for some of those! Looks like lots of movement.

I thought someone mentioned on another thread, or one of the previous 28 threads, that most movement occurs after their 6th grade year. I'm really looking for a program that focuses on advanced development of the girls. Unfortunately, my daughter's current team and others are being run like a rec team!

I think this NGLL season was very telling. We knew there was a clear top, but similarities among the 5-10 teams was very interesting. They all had a few players who could really help complete the top teams and would would benefit from that next level of player development and playing with equally matched skill levels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.

The COVID situation being the case, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more movement than is typical this year. Maybe people stayed put longer than they would have otherwise or some teams kept players who are now struggling to keep up.

Obviously some teams are harder to make than others, but every team has areas they want to improve. It might be a good idea to know if those areas match your DDs strengths/position. Unless she’s just good enough to make it regardless. I’ve also heard people recommend you reach out to see if you can join a practice before tryouts just to get a feel for each team…for those who are weighing which tryouts to focus on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.

That may be true, but after watching all of the top teams they all have areas where they could improve and several of the lower A teams have girls that could fill some of those gaps. Whether it is a draw girl, speed at midfield or a solid defender, those teams looking to stay at the head of the pack should not be turning away talent for politics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.

The COVID situation being the case, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more movement than is typical this year. Maybe people stayed put longer than they would have otherwise or some teams kept players who are now struggling to keep up.

Obviously some teams are harder to make than others, but every team has areas they want to improve. It might be a good idea to know if those areas match your DDs strengths/position. Unless she’s just good enough to make it regardless. I’ve also heard people recommend you reach out to see if you can join a practice before tryouts just to get a feel for each team…for those who are weighing which tryouts to focus on.

I think You are correct about knowing how the strenghts of your daughter and the strengths of the current roster. The top 5 definitely all have different strengths and their top players play different positions. So being an attacker might be harder to break in on for one team and middie another.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think there will be a lot of movement back and forth WITH IN the top 5 (Coppermine, MandD, Heros, MDU, Crush)

OR

Do you think the summer roster additions will come mostly in the form of top players from the tier 2 clubs trying out to make the the move into the top tier?

My daughter will be trying out for Skywalkers, Coppermine, or M&D. Leaning towards Skywalkers.

Easiest one to make at 28 age !

Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.

The COVID situation being the case, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more movement than is typical this year. Maybe people stayed put longer than they would have otherwise or some teams kept players who are now struggling to keep up.

Obviously some teams are harder to make than others, but every team has areas they want to improve. It might be a good idea to know if those areas match your DDs strengths/position. Unless she’s just good enough to make it regardless. I’ve also heard people recommend you reach out to see if you can join a practice before tryouts just to get a feel for each team…for those who are weighing which tryouts to focus on.

This... If you want into a top teams tryout without having them ever seen you, your chances of making their A team is remote. You will get put in the 5th tryout group and the lead coach will probably never even see you.

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

[/quote]
Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.[/quote]

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.[/quote]

The COVID situation being the case, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more movement than is typical this year. Maybe people stayed put longer than they would have otherwise or some teams kept players who are now struggling to keep up.

Obviously some teams are harder to make than others, but every team has areas they want to improve. It might be a good idea to know if those areas match your DDs strengths/position. Unless she’s just good enough to make it regardless. I’ve also heard people recommend you reach out to see if you can join a practice before tryouts just to get a feel for each team…for those who are weighing which tryouts to focus on.[/quote]

This... If you want into a top teams tryout without having them ever seen you, your chances of making their A team is remote. You will get put in the 5th tryout group and the lead coach will probably never even see you.[/quote]

That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]
Not too worried about which one is easiest to make...looking for the right fit for her skill set.

Everyone also needs to remember that especialy as a new player, you have a higher standard to meet. It is very unlikely you make a new team unless you will be one of the 14 or 15 top players. Chemistry matters and almost no experienced coach is going to bring in a new player who is unlikely to get significant playing time. Also, most clubs will try to promote at least one girl from the B team, pretty much so they can say there is a pathway from the B team.

In most non-covid years, top teams seldom bring in more than 5 or 6 outside players. Last two years was a bit more of an abnormality since many teams didn't cut girls after the 2020 summer when there was no NGLL and limited tourneys.[/quote]

The COVID situation being the case, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more movement than is typical this year. Maybe people stayed put longer than they would have otherwise or some teams kept players who are now struggling to keep up.

Obviously some teams are harder to make than others, but every team has areas they want to improve. It might be a good idea to know if those areas match your DDs strengths/position. Unless she’s just good enough to make it regardless. I’ve also heard people recommend you reach out to see if you can join a practice before tryouts just to get a feel for each team…for those who are weighing which tryouts to focus on.[/quote]

This... If you want into a top teams tryout without having them ever seen you, your chances of making their A team is remote. You will get put in the 5th tryout group and the lead coach will probably never even see you.[/quote]

That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.[/quote]

But you don't think the coaches have already reached out to top girls on other teams? Coaches obviously want more talent, but the amount of talent truly assessed is not what you think it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Too many what ifs to do a full ranking for me...

I think the most complete teams will continue to add talent and grow (MandD and Heros)

The wild cards will be whether or not the "typical" progression of events of middle school to HS club lax happen or not...

Will MDUs top players leave as has happened in the past, or are the confident and Content enough to stick together?

Will Coppermine be able to sell their new product enough to keep their talent? And how many soccer places will jump ship?

Will skywalkers follow the normal path of collecting talent over the next 2 years and emerging in HS as a top contender? (I assume they will absorb Crush talent, they don't even have a HS team.)

[/quote]

That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.[/quote]

But you don't think the coaches have already reached out to top girls on other teams? Coaches obviously want more talent, but the amount of talent truly assessed is not what you think it is.[/quote]

As in poaching? I don't know that they would be reaching out unsolicited at this age. Maybe in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Too many what ifs to do a full ranking for me...

I think the most complete teams will continue to add talent and grow (MandD and Heros)

The wild cards will be whether or not the "typical" progression of events of middle school to HS club lax happen or not...

Will MDUs top players leave as has happened in the past, or are the confident and Content enough to stick together?

Will Coppermine be able to sell their new product enough to keep their talent? And how many soccer places will jump ship?

Will skywalkers follow the normal path of collecting talent over the next 2 years and emerging in HS as a top contender? (I assume they will absorb Crush talent, they don't even have a HS team.)

Crush is holding tryouts for 2026s this summer, so it would appear they are planning to try and keep things going into high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Can we bet on this? Any Coppermine* parents giving odds?

I certainly got a chuckle when I realized Curb Shoppe has been closed for two years. Pretty lame if that is what got the last thread nuked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Can we bet on this? Any Coppermine* parents giving odds?

I certainly got a chuckle when I realized Curb Shoppe has been closed for two years. Pretty lame if that is what got the last thread nuked.

Why are you heading back down the negativity road. Let’s stay on the high road so we have a means of open communication between people with questions and answers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Too many what ifs to do a full ranking for me...

I think the most complete teams will continue to add talent and grow (MandD and Heros)

The wild cards will be whether or not the "typical" progression of events of middle school to HS club lax happen or not...

Will MDUs top players leave as has happened in the past, or are the confident and Content enough to stick together?

Will Coppermine be able to sell their new product enough to keep their talent? And how many soccer places will jump ship?

Will skywalkers follow the normal path of collecting talent over the next 2 years and emerging in HS as a top contender? (I assume they will absorb Crush talent, they don't even have a HS team.)

I believe. M&D, Hero's, Skywalkers, Maryland United, and Coppermine Central will all be there with Crush being the wild card. A little further out I would include Coppermine North as a wild card as I believe they will be the premier club for Harford County.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Can we bet on this? Any Coppermine* parents giving odds?

I certainly got a chuckle when I realized Curb Shoppe has been closed for two years. Pretty lame if that is what got the last thread nuked.

Why are you heading back down the negativity road. Let’s stay on the high road so we have a means of open communication between people with questions and answers.

Agree on this^ I have noticed several posts deleted from this thread since it started. Can we please delete the negative post above? Not sure why those are allowed to be posted but other normal posts are being deleted or not even "approved" to post?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Can we bet on this? Any Coppermine* parents giving odds?

I certainly got a chuckle when I realized Curb Shoppe has been closed for two years. Pretty lame if that is what got the last thread nuked.

Why are you heading back down the negativity road. Let’s stay on the high road so we have a means of open communication between people with questions and answers.

Agreed! Anyone else get the feeling that there is someone who keeps posting things just to get everyone riled up? I bet it’s a kid. If we don’t take the bait, and act like grownups this thread will continue despite someone’s best efforts to have it removed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.

But you don't think the coaches have already reached out to top girls on other teams? Coaches obviously want more talent, but the amount of talent truly assessed is not what you think it is.[/quote]

As in poaching? I don't know that they would be reaching out unsolicited at this age. Maybe in high school.[/quote]

It absolutely does happen. Its usually more informal, through the parents. However, most moves are usually parent/player driven.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.

But you don't think the coaches have already reached out to top girls on other teams? Coaches obviously want more talent, but the amount of talent truly assessed is not what you think it is.[/quote]

As in poaching? I don't know that they would be reaching out unsolicited at this age. Maybe in high school.[/quote]

It absolutely does happen. Its usually more informal, through the parents. However, most moves are usually parent/player driven.[/quote]

Just wait for it... Skywalkers notorious for it! They will raid Coppermines roster the same way they have at the older age groups!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

Can we bet on this? Any Coppermine* parents giving odds?

I certainly got a chuckle when I realized Curb Shoppe has been closed for two years. Pretty lame if that is what got the last thread nuked.

Why are you heading back down the negativity road. Let’s stay on the high road so we have a means of open communication between people with questions and answers.

Agreed! Anyone else get the feeling that there is someone who keeps posting things just to get everyone riled up? I bet it’s a kid. If we don’t take the bait, and act like grownups this thread will continue despite someone’s best efforts to have it removed.

100% agree. Avoid and ignore the nonsense and keep the thread going.

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

No idea. We live inside the beltway so far north Baltimore teams are out from a logistical standpoint. We’re not new to club lax but really thinking through options for what she wants to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

Biggest challenges on defense within A is skywalkers, followed by HoCo. Among top 4 teams. all have solid defenses buy Coppermine is probably the weakest of the four.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WEEKLY PARENT POLL:

Week 1: In 3 years who will be the top 5 Maryland 2028 girls teams (in order of strength)?

1. M&D
2. Hero's
3. Capital (technically not MD, but will draw southern MD girls)
4. Skywalkers
5. MD United

Coppermine would probably be 6th, followed by Integrity, LBC and TLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

We narrowed our list down to how far we are willing to commute to/from practice. Then we'll try to watch some of their games during the Summer tournaments (if not playing at the same time) to see if she would have a chance of making the team and starting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

Biggest challenges on defense within A is skywalkers, followed by HoCo. Among top 4 teams. all have solid defenses buy Coppermine is probably the weakest of the four.

Really? I would have said opposite about Coppermine…and I’m not a Coppermine parent. I think M&D will be looking for solid defenders…as well as probably Crush. Agree on Skywalkers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

Biggest challenges on defense within A is skywalkers, followed by HoCo. Among top 4 teams. all have solid defenses buy Coppermine is probably the weakest of the four.

This is good info. Similar question, of the A teams, from a Midfield perspective (especially top 5) which of those teams needs the most help at the Midfield position? Obviously all teams have a strong player/s at that spot but there are some that seem weaker at that spot than others. But it's hard to see everyone as the PP has said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

Biggest challenges on defense within A is skywalkers, followed by HoCo. Among top 4 teams. all have solid defenses buy Coppermine is probably the weakest of the four.

This is good info. Similar question, of the A teams, from a Midfield perspective (especially top 5) which of those teams needs the most help at the Midfield position? Obviously all teams have a strong player/s at that spot but there are some that seem weaker at that spot than others. But it's hard to see everyone as the PP has said.

Add attack too...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the best way to figure out what teams are looking for what type of player. My daughter is a defender looking to go to a team where there is more consistency on the team as opposed to her current team where there is a large gap in skill development between the top and bottom players. I can’t watch every single NGLL game or tournament match. Truthfully do parents really email teams or is that hyperbole?

Is she looking to tryout for any teams in particular? People here might be able to tell you where teams are at with defense, if they'd be honest about it.

Biggest challenges on defense within A is skywalkers, followed by HoCo. Among top 4 teams. all have solid defenses buy Coppermine is probably the weakest of the four.

This is good info. Similar question, of the A teams, from a Midfield perspective (especially top 5) which of those teams needs the most help at the Midfield position? Obviously all teams have a strong player/s at that spot but there are some that seem weaker at that spot than others. But it's hard to see everyone as the PP has said.

Coppermine, M&D and Heros have good depth there, the first two probably not looking to add any midfielders without moving current ones to other positions. Heros probably a little less depth as they go to second line than the first two. As for MD United, the two times I saw them this spring didn’t sub out 2 of their middies much, if at all, so I guess I would have to surmise they have the most need out of the teams in playoffs to add depth. Sorry I have not seen Crush this year but I’m sure someone else could comment there.

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

Last year the 27s and 28s were together and you got assigned your team when you got there. They had 2 MD teams and the the others were a mix of all regions.

I assume it will be a 28/29 grouping this year. There is obviously enough girls for a MD regional team(s), but how the other teams are structured will probably depend on how many try out from other areas.

Crush will be folding soon. No way they hold on to good players without playing in the best tournaments. Watch the 26 team this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

Saw that MDU went the way of Robinson Sports and M&D and sold out to True Lacrosse... will this be a good thing or a bad thing? Fees will go up for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will be folding soon. No way they hold on to good players without playing in the best tournaments. Watch the 26 team this summer.

They won't fold. They have a place. They are the most affordable MD travel club out there. However, they won't be an A team much longer. Ultimately, they will be a better version of WAYS and Legends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will be folding soon. No way they hold on to good players without playing in the best tournaments. Watch the 26 team this summer.

Most of their top 26 players left last summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Yes, ours got the acceptance yesterday and was at the MD tryout but for the VA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

We got ours yesterday evening

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Yes, ours got the acceptance yesterday and was at the MD tryout but for the VA team.

So was your daughter accepted for the team in MD or she will be playing for the VA team?

Were the same evaluators at all of the regions?

Does everyone who didn’t make it get an email either way?

“ Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?”.
Yesterday, but we will not participate. After the tryouts, it’s not what we thought it was. The evaluations were a joke and we decided it’s an overhyped event only used to make money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Yes, ours got the acceptance yesterday and was at the MD tryout but for the VA team.

So, you tried out for the MD team, but made the VA team?

If you didn't get accepted you will get an email that you were waitlisted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?”.
Yesterday, but we will not participate. After the tryouts, it’s not what we thought it was. The evaluations were a joke and we decided it’s an overhyped event only used to make money.

Will agree to tryouts weren’t run that well. Hopefully the camp is better. People seemed to like it last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Yes, ours got the acceptance yesterday and was at the MD tryout but for the VA team.

So, you tried out for the MD team, but made the VA team?

Pride and STARS played eachother in NGLL on the day and same time of the VA tryouts, so they said to come to the md tryouts, but they could tryout for VA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?”.
Yesterday, but we will not participate. After the tryouts, it’s not what we thought it was. The evaluations were a joke and we decided it’s an overhyped event only used to make money.

Will agree to tryouts weren’t run that well. Hopefully the camp is better. People seemed to like it last year.

I heard mixed feedback…some liked it and others will not go back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

“ Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?”.
Yesterday, but we will not participate. After the tryouts, it’s not what we thought it was. The evaluations were a joke and we decided it’s an overhyped event only used to make money.

Will agree to tryouts weren’t run that well. Hopefully the camp is better. People seemed to like it last year.

I agree it could have been better. But if you think that was a bad tryout, wait a couple years for American Select or UA tryouts.

I actually thought they did well with the time they had. (Wish it was 2.5 hours like older girls). Biggest complain was the initial grouping of girls. Most girls from top clubs were all together. A challenge for the girls who were not in the top 2 groups

Weekend Predictions?

M&D vs MDU - I’ve got MDU by 4
Coppermine vs Hero’s - Give me Coppermine by 2

MDU v Coppermine - I’ll take MDU by 1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone gone through the registration process for AU and know what the team structure is like? Are there two MD teams? Or are they mixed grades?

28s and 29s combined for the event but sign up separate. Not sure how many teams. Everyone signs up under MD code. What will be interesting is if the MD kids from DE tryouts are combined or separate

The MD tryouts had players from VA trying out for VA. I'd imagine the same holds true for MD and DE, where MD players are trying out for the MD team even if they are at the DE tryout.

Did the girls get acceptances for AU yet?

Yes, ours got the acceptance yesterday and was at the MD tryout but for the VA team.

So was your daughter accepted for the team in MD or she will be playing for the VA team?

Were the same evaluators at all of the regions?

We couldn't attend the VA tryouts but they said to go to the MD tryouts. We had the option to tryout for team VA or team MD. She wanted to play with her teammates for VA. The evaluators were all the same.

I haven’t heard of anyone that tried out that didn’t make it. Seems they take as many as possible. $$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekend Predictions?

M&D vs MDU - I’ve got MDU by 4
Coppermine vs Hero’s - Give me Coppermine by 2

MDU v Coppermine - I’ll take MDU by 1

I like the coppermine prediction. I Think the M&D MDU game will be more of a toss up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekend Predictions?

M&D vs MDU - I’ve got MDU by 4
Coppermine vs Hero’s - Give me Coppermine by 2

MDU v Coppermine - I’ll take MDU by 1

4 great teams in the final 4! Best of luck to each of you…respect the game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Weekend Predictions?

M&D vs MDU - I’ve got MDU by 4
Coppermine vs Hero’s - Give me Coppermine by 2

MDU v Coppermine - I’ll take MDU by 1

4 great teams in the final 4! Best of luck to each of you…respect the game!

Looks like 2 great games today. The championship tomorrow should be a great game, good luck to both teams!!

Wait…Coppermine beat Hero’s 12-7?!?!?

So I saw the scores, but if you were there, how were the games today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I saw the scores, but if you were there, how were the games today?

M&D and MDU went into OT. Coppermine handled Heros pretty easily. My money is on Coppermine tomorrow. Good luck to both teams!

Congrats to M&D.

Well played by both teams. I am sure they will see each other again in big games this summer.

Difference in my mind is that M&D was a bit more composed in the moment, especially on the clear.

Congratulations to M&D for their NGLL Mid-Atlantic title. Now bring home the Championship!

Congrats to M&D, was really impressed by them

Congratulations to M&D on the 28 championship!

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Very good game as expected. M&D was running away with it, however Coppermine came back and made it a very close game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very good game as expected. M&D was running away with it, however Coppermine came back and made it a very close game.

Yes, great game. Coppermine never ran out of energy or fight; they just ran out of clock.

Congratulations to M&D on winning a hard fought win and the Championship. Congrats to Coppermine as well, they never gave up and just came up short at the end. 2 great teams and provided for a great game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Agreed. What is said here isn’t always the truth. Four great teams came out of a great league and M&D won. All the girls should be proud of what they accomplished this season.

FYI...Initial schedule is posted for Lax for the Cure:

https://steps.teamsportsinfo.com/lf...w_divs_menu=true&show_brackets=true#

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Agreed. What is said here isn’t always the truth. Four great teams came out of a great league and M&D won. All the girls should be proud of what they accomplished this season.

Now the Summer tourney season followed by tryouts. Will be interesting to see which teams lose/gain quality players. Will some "B" level teams gain enough talent to make the jump to "A" and will some "A" teams drop down to "B".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Agreed. What is said here isn’t always the truth. Four great teams came out of a great league and M&D won. All the girls should be proud of what they accomplished this season.

Now the Summer tourney season followed by tryouts. Will be interesting to see which teams lose/gain quality players. Will some "B" level teams gain enough talent to make the jump to "A" and will some "A" teams drop down to "B".

I think this summer and next summer will both be summers of movement. I think you will find top players on B/A- level teams looking for a more complete team with players of similar skill level to help push their development. Players leaving may not be the big question, it is Which A teams will be smart enough to snag them and not let politics with current players on the bottom half of their roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Agreed. What is said here isn’t always the truth. Four great teams came out of a great league and M&D won. All the girls should be proud of what they accomplished this season.

Now the Summer tourney season followed by tryouts. Will be interesting to see which teams lose/gain quality players. Will some "B" level teams gain enough talent to make the jump to "A" and will some "A" teams drop down to "B".

I didn't see a ton of equal playing time in NGLL (not advocating that there should be, just making an observation). So, do you think there will be movement from people who didn't play a lot looking for a new home, or just the B team players trying to move up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a good, hard fought game today. And it was heartwarming to see many of the Coppermine girls hang back to congratulate M&D and to take pictures with friends from both teams. There’s a lot of respect and camaraderie between these two teams, despite what you may read here.

Agreed. What is said here isn’t always the truth. Four great teams came out of a great league and M&D won. All the girls should be proud of what they accomplished this season.

Now the Summer tourney season followed by tryouts. Will be interesting to see which teams lose/gain quality players. Will some "B" level teams gain enough talent to make the jump to "A" and will some "A" teams drop down to "B".

I didn't see a ton of equal playing time in NGLL (not advocating that there should be, just making an observation). So, do you think there will be movement from people who didn't play a lot looking for a new home, or just the B team players trying to move up?

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

will be really interested to see how M&D does this weekend. Will all the improvement in the spring, have they closed the gap on Eagle Stix?

Assuming they can beat Aces, they will probably get 2 shots at them.

This right here is the reason why my daughter is switching teams. " Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up." She's one of the outsiders on the team that didn't play on the same rec team, soccer team, or go to elementary school with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This right here is the reason why my daughter is switching teams. " Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up." She's one of the outsiders on the team that didn't play on the same rec team, soccer team, or go to elementary school with them.

My DD plays on a team that draws from all over (BaltCo, Hoco, Carrol, etc), and though it has it's drawback, I have to say that one advantage is the lack of one main clique. I'm sure she'd love to have a bunch of close friends on the team, but the tradeoff is that drama between girls is minimum. Granted, I'm sure this may change as they get older and attend high schools together, but for now I'm enjoying the calm!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

At the 28 level, even all 4 top teams/clubs have holes they can fill for sure after seeing them all. I'd be curious to see how the new addition #s shape up for this year. Hero's might be the most crowded with a White team that is full of talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This right here is the reason why my daughter is switching teams. " Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up." She's one of the outsiders on the team that didn't play on the same rec team, soccer team, or go to elementary school with them.

My DD plays on a team that draws from all over (BaltCo, Hoco, Carrol, etc), and though it has it's drawback, I have to say that one advantage is the lack of one main clique. I'm sure she'd love to have a bunch of close friends on the team, but the tradeoff is that drama between girls is minimum. Granted, I'm sure this may change as they get older and attend high schools together, but for now I'm enjoying the calm!

Unfortunately, they cant leave their friendships on the sidelines and it adversely effects the whole team!. Our plan is to go to Skywalkers as they seem to draw from around the Baltimore area .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

At the 28 level, even all 4 top teams/clubs have holes they can fill for sure after seeing them all. I'd be curious to see how the new addition #s shape up for this year. Hero's might be the most crowded with a White team that is full of talent.

Do you foresee the white team moving up to the A Division. Also, does anyone know why there is no 2028 TLC team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

At the 28 level, even all 4 top teams/clubs have holes they can fill for sure after seeing them all. I'd be curious to see how the new addition #s shape up for this year. Hero's might be the most crowded with a White team that is full of talent.

All teams definitely have holes to fill. However, you need to remember that Heros and M&D have a reputation for only adding girls who will be impact players. Very rare to add a girl from outside to sit on the bench (at least for these programs). Coaches don't want to add new upset parents for no reason.

SW on the other hand (and MDU to a lesser extent) have the reputation for taking the best 20-23 players regardless. This tends to create more issues on the sidelines which is also why there tends to be more turnover at these programs.

Great point about all the talent on Hero's White. Will be interesting to see where it all shakes out. My guess is they will prove up to A next year in an effort to keep some of the girls around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Though their roster is not as big as M&D 27s was last year, M&D 28 also has a bigger than usual roster this year. So seems like you might see more movement on this team than is typical (and possibly the addition of a red team).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

At the 28 level, even all 4 top teams/clubs have holes they can fill for sure after seeing them all. I'd be curious to see how the new addition #s shape up for this year. Hero's might be the most crowded with a White team that is full of talent.

All teams definitely have holes to fill. However, you need to remember that Heros and M&D have a reputation for only adding girls who will be impact players. Very rare to add a girl from outside to sit on the bench (at least for these programs). Coaches don't want to add new upset parents for no reason.

SW on the other hand (and MDU to a lesser extent) have the reputation for taking the best 20-23 players regardless. This tends to create more issues on the sidelines which is also why there tends to be more turnover at these programs.

Great point about all the talent on Hero's White. Will be interesting to see where it all shakes out. My guess is they will prove up to A next year in an effort to keep some of the girls around.

Skywalkers older teams i would agree but 27,28 and beyond are just lucky to get a good player. I think Skywalkers and Nems are going to be lower teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Though their roster is not as big as M&D 27s was last year, M&D 28 also has a bigger than usual roster this year. So seems like you might see more movement on this team than is typical (and possibly the addition of a red team).

From what I hear, yes, the 28s will have 2 teams for next season so lots of movement potentially.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Huh? Heros Green only added 3 players. 1 from White, one from M&D, one from BLC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Though their roster is not as big as M&D 27s was last year, M&D 28 also has a bigger than usual roster this year. So seems like you might see more movement on this team than is typical (and possibly the addition of a red team).

From what I hear, yes, the 28s will have 2 teams for next season so lots of movement potentially.

History tells us that M&D Red is where a lot of top B players will end up.

Skywalkers older teams i would agree but 27,28 and beyond are just lucky to get a good player. I think Skywalkers and Nems are going to be lower teams[/quote]

NEMS is definitely going to be a lower team and may never make it back to the A league. Going 4-4 in B league isn’t gonna get you there. I believe Skywalkers will gain talent this year and next and be in the upper tier in a couple of years.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Huh? Heros Green only added 3 players. 1 from White, one from M&D, one from BLC.

They added 4 from BLC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers older teams i would agree but 27,28 and beyond are just lucky to get a good player. I think Skywalkers and Nems are going to be lower teams

NEMS is definitely going to be a lower team and may never make it back to the A league. Going 4-4 in B league isn’t gonna get you there. I believe Skywalkers will gain talent this year and next and be in the upper tier in a couple of years.[/quote]

I keep hearing the SW’s teams will improve each season and that use to happen around 6th-8th grades. It definitely happened with the 25’s as that is my older daughter’s grad year. Didn’t see it with the 26 to much, very little with 27’s and nothing with 28’s. Makes me wonder if SW is just another average club living on its past? Or if it happens before HS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Though their roster is not as big as M&D 27s was last year, M&D 28 also has a bigger than usual roster this year. So seems like you might see more movement on this team than is typical (and possibly the addition of a red team).

From what I hear, yes, the 28s will have 2 teams for next season so lots of movement potentially.

History tells us that M&D Red is where a lot of top B players will end up.

They have tried to have a Red team every year but never had enough girls come to their tryouts for some reason. Maybe this year will be different.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Love this. However a little early still to tell and answer that. Give it 1 or 2 more years to see how it plays out, as it gets more competitive. Then you will see what direction your daughter is heading. 12 years old should still be having some fun with it!!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]

There are a number of reasons players will move. We spend a lot of money to join these clubs. What if: 1: they don't see much playing time 2: aren't developing under current coaches 3: is an "A" type player playing in the B league 4: chose current team due to geographic location and will now travel further to play on a competitive team . I'm sure there are many other reasons.[/quote

We plan to have our DD try out for several of the top teams this mainly due to Reasons 2 and 3. I'd add for # 2, it's not only just coaches per say but overall development within the club etc but they go hand in hand. 2 and 3 I think are the top reasons why you will see a lot of movement to the top teams.

I'd be curious to see about # 1. Do players on the "A" teams of the top teams who aren't playing much stay with the club and move to their B teams or do they go to other A clubs that aren't as competitive etc? CClax will be in A next year with their win and I could see a few of the current A teams dropping back down to the B division, i.e. Limelight, Stars and maybe even Skywalkers.

Its rare for a team to move backwards in divisions. remember typically there are 10-12 A teams in 6th grade, 14-16 in 7th grade and 18-20 in 8th grade.

For girls on A+ teams, you will see some girls tryout for A teams where they can play more or play in a preferred position. You will see stars on A teams try out for A+ teams and B players tryout for A and A+ teams.

Also, remember some girls will want to switch team for reasons beyond lacrosse. Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up.

Biggest X factor around this age is how many girls drop travel lax all together due to committments to other sports (typically soccer).

Remember though that between the top 4 teams, there are usually only around 15-20 spots which open up.

For reference last year at the 27 level for the top 3 programs)

M&D added 3 new girls (but cut 6 or 7 due to having an inflated roster due to having a Red team collapse at last second)
Heros added 5 girls (including 1 from White team and 1 from out of state)
BLC added 3 new girls.

Huh? Heros Green only added 3 players. 1 from White, one from M&D, one from BLC.

They added 4 from BLC

They referenced the 2027 team. 2027 def did not add 4 girls from BLC.

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

It will be interesting. There's four solid teams at 2028 MD level, Crush is kinda in between then a big drop off. Not sure the big four are just elite or product of low 2028 A teams.
This weekend will help determine that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This right here is the reason why my daughter is switching teams. " Lots of cliques on 6th and 7th grade and this can break teams up." She's one of the outsiders on the team that didn't play on the same rec team, soccer team, or go to elementary school with them.

My DD plays on a team that draws from all over (BaltCo, Hoco, Carrol, etc), and though it has it's drawback, I have to say that one advantage is the lack of one main clique. I'm sure she'd love to have a bunch of close friends on the team, but the tradeoff is that drama between girls is minimum. Granted, I'm sure this may change as they get older and attend high schools together, but for now I'm enjoying the calm!

Unfortunately, they cant leave their friendships on the sidelines and it adversely effects the whole team!. Our plan is to go to Skywalkers as they seem to draw from around the Baltimore area .

Sw 28 is bad so you should play there. They are soon ready to sell the club too so wait to see how the transition would be. Biggest thing is find a club that will help with recruiting. Sw kids recruit themselves by being on a Sw team. They need a big contact. Coppermine has JT coming on and M&D has Srob not sure who Heros has. But those are good options too.

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

It will be interesting. There's four solid teams at 2028 MD level, Crush is kinda in between then a big drop off. Not sure the big four are just elite or product of low 2028 A teams.
This weekend will help determine that.

The fact that there are 4 (sometimes 5) top teams that can trade wins and losses here in Maryland, and who have traded wins and losses with non-MD teams (Aces, YJ, etc) leads me to believe that they're just as elite as other regions. If some of this talent condensed more into one or two teams, you'd probably see more of a pyramid where one or two teams typically beats everyone like @ other years. Some people predict this will happen as the years go on, I guess time will tell.

The one team that I'm interested to see at the NGLL tournament this weekend is Eaglestix 28. Though I sometimes think the hype is coming straight from GA, they've been touted as the team to beat. But they've also historically played a weak schedule. Will be interesting to see this weekend whether they're heads-and-shoulders above the rest as some have said, or on par with others (which is still really good).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

So how’s the weather down in Georgia?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

I think the gap is more about size than speed or athleticism plus the complexity of ES's offense.

If M&D can win at least 50% of draws, and slow the game down, they have a chance. If they get down a few goals early, it could get ugly quickly.

Given that they are likely to play twice in 24 hours, i think this would be M&D an better shot in the second game.

Though I don't think they will make the title game, I think Aces matches up better with Eagle Stix due to their physicality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Laxdad09]Predictions for this weekend?

The one team that I'm interested to see at the NGLL tournament this weekend is Eaglestix 28. Though I sometimes think the hype is coming straight from GA, they've been touted as the team to beat. But they've also historically played a weak schedule. Will be interesting to see this weekend whether they're heads-and-shoulders above the rest as some have said, or on par with others (which is still really good).

Wouldn't say they have played a weak schedule. They have some big wins over top 30 2027 teams over past two years. This is one of the reasons they play so physically.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

I think the gap is more about size than speed or athleticism plus the complexity of ES's offense.

If M&D can win at least 50% of draws, and slow the game down, they have a chance. If they get down a few goals early, it could get ugly quickly.

Given that they are likely to play twice in 24 hours, i think this would be M&D an better shot in the second game.

Though I don't think they will make the title game, I think Aces matches up better with Eagle Stix due to their physicality.

Since Eagle Stix gets to pull from a whole state, its too bad we couldn't do an "all-star" team from the NGLL A teams after the NGLL regular season and give them a shot at Eagle Stix

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Laxdad09]Predictions for this weekend?

The one team that I'm interested to see at the NGLL tournament this weekend is Eaglestix 28. Though I sometimes think the hype is coming straight from GA, they've been touted as the team to beat. But they've also historically played a weak schedule. Will be interesting to see this weekend whether they're heads-and-shoulders above the rest as some have said, or on par with others (which is still really good).

Wouldn't say they have played a weak schedule. They have some big wins over top 30 2027 teams over past two years. This is one of the reasons they play so physically.

Def wasn't MD NGLL Refs, they won't let the kids make contact without a whistle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Laxdad09]Predictions for this weekend?

The one team that I'm interested to see at the NGLL tournament this weekend is Eaglestix 28. Though I sometimes think the hype is coming straight from GA, they've been touted as the team to beat. But they've also historically played a weak schedule. Will be interesting to see this weekend whether they're heads-and-shoulders above the rest as some have said, or on par with others (which is still really good).

Wouldn't say they have played a weak schedule. They have some big wins over top 30 2027 teams over past two years. This is one of the reasons they play so physically.

Def wasn't MD NGLL Refs, they won't let the kids make contact without a whistle.

And that is why Eagle Stix is not a big favorite this weekend. If the refs call the game very close, big edge to M&D

Looks like Tryout registrations are open for a few of the clubs now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

I think the gap is more about size than speed or athleticism plus the complexity of ES's offense.

If M&D can win at least 50% of draws, and slow the game down, they have a chance. If they get down a few goals early, it could get ugly quickly.

Given that they are likely to play twice in 24 hours, i think this would be M&D an better shot in the second game.

Though I don't think they will make the title game, I think Aces matches up better with Eagle Stix due to their physicality.

Since Eagle Stix gets to pull from a whole state, its too bad we couldn't do an "all-star" team from the NGLL A teams after the NGLL regular season and give them a shot at Eagle Stix

I don't think your premise is accurate. I spoke with a couple fathers of Eagle Stix players at last year's NGLL and they indicated that the girls all live within about a 15 mile radius. I would think that compares with other 2028 elite teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

I think the gap is more about size than speed or athleticism plus the complexity of ES's offense.

If M&D can win at least 50% of draws, and slow the game down, they have a chance. If they get down a few goals early, it could get ugly quickly.

Given that they are likely to play twice in 24 hours, i think this would be M&D an better shot in the second game.

Though I don't think they will make the title game, I think Aces matches up better with Eagle Stix due to their physicality.

Since Eagle Stix gets to pull from a whole state, its too bad we couldn't do an "all-star" team from the NGLL A teams after the NGLL regular season and give them a shot at Eagle Stix

I don't think your premise is accurate. I spoke with a couple fathers of Eagle Stix players at last year's NGLL and they indicated that the girls all live within about a 15 mile radius. I would think that compares with other 2028 elite teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Laxdad09

Predictions for this weekend?

I think M&D will beat Aces and get to the final. Hard to predict them bigger Eagle Stix, especially in a 50 minute game. ES is just too big, talented and physical.

Hope M&D can embrance being the underdog and pull the upset.

I don't think the Eagle Stix game would be close with M&D. M&D doesn't have the speed/athleticism to hang with Eagle Stix.

I think the gap is more about size than speed or athleticism plus the complexity of ES's offense.

If M&D can win at least 50% of draws, and slow the game down, they have a chance. If they get down a few goals early, it could get ugly quickly.

Given that they are likely to play twice in 24 hours, i think this would be M&D an better shot in the second game.

Though I don't think they will make the title game, I think Aces matches up better with Eagle Stix due to their physicality.

Since Eagle Stix gets to pull from a whole state, its too bad we couldn't do an "all-star" team from the NGLL A teams after the NGLL regular season and give them a shot at Eagle Stix

I don't think your premise is accurate. I spoke with a couple fathers of Eagle Stix players at last year's NGLL and they indicated that the girls all live within about a 15 mile radius. I would think that compares with other 2028 elite teams.

Almost all kids are north Atlanta suburbs. They have a massive youth program which starts as early as MD.

Biggest advantage ES has is these kids have already been playing together for 6 years.

Who cares about how big of an area Eaglestix has to draw from? It doesn’t matter. Play the games and whoever wins wins. What’s the big deal? You, me or anyone could make our own team of 2028s. Everyone making excuses for either winning or losing before it even happens is so foolish. Maybe M&D and Eaglestix will both lose this weekend.

Can someone please share a link to info on this weekend's games? Thank you.

Tourney Machine.

Tough loss for M&D today against Aces. They competed well, were probably the deeper team, but Aces was better in cage and converted its opportunities better.

Tomorrow's ES game should be interesting. ES rolled Aces and Madskillz today and looked pretty much unstoppable. For those who haven't seen them live, Yes the hype is real -- I truly believe they would be a top 15 team in the 27 bracket. #67 on their team is the best 28 I seen. M&D's low defenders will need to have the game of their lives to keep M&D close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough loss for M&D today against Aces. They competed well, were probably the deeper team, but Aces was better in cage and converted its opportunities better.

Tomorrow's ES game should be interesting. ES rolled Aces and Madskillz today and looked pretty much unstoppable. For those who haven't seen them live, Yes the hype is real -- I truly believe they would be a top 15 team in the 27 bracket. #67 on their team is the best 28 I seen. M&D's low defenders will need to have the game of their lives to keep M&D close.

Are these games live streamed? Would like to watch ES and M&D at 10AM this morning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough loss for M&D today against Aces. They competed well, were probably the deeper team, but Aces was better in cage and converted its opportunities better.

Tomorrow's ES game should be interesting. ES rolled Aces and Madskillz today and looked pretty much unstoppable. For those who haven't seen them live, Yes the hype is real -- I truly believe they would be a top 15 team in the 27 bracket. #67 on their team is the best 28 I seen. M&D's low defenders will need to have the game of their lives to keep M&D close.

Are these games live streamed? Would like to watch ES and M&D at 10AM this morning.

FYI - link to championship game livestreams is here -> https://cruitcast.com/user/web/stream/ngll-championship-2022

Eagle stix 28 won NGLL

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

Saw all the scores from the NGLL games this weekend. Based on most of the conversation on here this past week, I was surprised to see how even Aces, M&D and Eaglestix all were. All certainly look to be the best team to represent each of their regions going forward. Great job by all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

I wish my team played as unexciting as the Eagle Stix team. Personally I find winning exciting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

Fell asleep 3 times while watching them play!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

I wish my team played as unexciting as the Eagle Stix team. Personally I find winning exciting.

Try teaching the girls to move and create inside of score first and hold the ball. Just not gonna help them learn to play at the college level. The old 4 corners offense !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

What does that even mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Eaglestix. Not a very exciting brand of lacrosse.

Fell asleep 3 times while watching them play!

I’m sure you did. It’s tiring watching your team lose. Eagle Stix was always at least one goal less boring than their opponents. Personally I thought every team played well and that no team was boring. Positivity is a virtue that some people simply lack and sore losers fall in that category.

Good team, well coached. This page as usual will be getting deleted shortly due to the continued negativity. Congrats to ES and all of the teams who experienced a fun weekend of lacrosse at the NGLL nationals. Agreed with a previous post the top 3 were extremely close, parity is a good thing!

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

Isn’t the purpose of a tournament to win? Sounds like your just more upset that they only allowed m&d to score 2 times.

I thought all the games this weekend were fantastic and exciting. No doubt these top teams will trade wins and losses for years to come. Congratulations to all the players on every team for playing their hearts out!

Both goalies were outstanding in the ES/M&D game and both offenses ran motions and plays. The defensive effort on both sides was really good. It was hard for either team to do much of anything

Now the season is over, how do you rank the following teams’ defense, midfield, attack, and goalie.
M&D, Coppermine, MD United, Crush, Skywalkers, Hero’s or others. May help players interested in transferring to and trying out for a new team in July.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

You timed it🤪

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Only a fool criticizes a winning strategy. It seems to me you should be more critical of M&D for allowing Eagle Stix to pass the ball around for “9 minutes”. Surprisingly Eagle Stix wasn’t the only team on the field.

One win you say is luck
The second should have made you think
The third should make you realize

The hype is REAL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now the season is over, how do you rank the following teams’ defense, midfield, attack, and goalie.
M&D, Coppermine, MD United, Crush, Skywalkers, Hero’s or others. May help players interested in transferring to and trying out for a new team in July.

Thoughts? Pretty consistent bottom two.

GOALIES
1) Hero’s
2) MDU
3) Crush
4) M&D
5) Coppermine
6) Skywalkers

DEFENSE
1) MDU
2) Coppermine
3) M&D
4) Crush
5) Hero’s
6) Skywalkers

MIDFIELD
1) M&D
2) Coppermine
3) MDU
4) Hero’s
5) Crush
6) Skywalkers

DRAW
1) M&D
2) MDU
3) Hero’s
4) Coppermine
5) Crush
6) Skywalkers

ATTACK
1) M&D
2) MDU
3) Coppermine
4) Hero’s
5) Crush
6)Skywalkers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Why did M&D allow them to do this? Remember the 4th pool play game was meaningless for Eagle Stix unless they gave up 18 goals. M&D needed to win and should have tried to push the pace and tempo.

Both teams prefer a slower pace with great execution. Reality is that Eagle Stix is a much better version than M&D.

If you watched the first game, HHH (a much inferior team) was able to create some turnover in Eagle Stix's settled play offense. They just couldn't win a draw and didn't get enough possessions.

After watching parts of 3 ES games this weekend, I think the game plan to beat them in the summer is pretty clear.

- Win at least 40% of draws. they have the best 28 draw girls. Need at least 40% to have a chance. At a minimum teams should be trying to play draws low to give their circle girls a chance.

- Double aggressively against ES to slow down their motion and "jump" all of their high picks. If you sit back, they will eventually pick you apart.

- When you get the ball via clear or turnover, push aggressively when you have numbers. If there is a weakness in Eagle Stix, it is team speed and transition defense. Aces was able to create some cheap goals and this is needed to have a chance.

Obviously, this is all easier said than done and if this goes wrong, the score could get out of control quickly.

If a MD teams beats them this summer, I think Coppermine probably has the best chance just based on speed and athleticism. I would expect M&D to try to add some speed this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

Practice is when players (boys/girls/men and women) develop and learn their game. During games it is about winning and applying lessons and skills developed during practice.

Also, are you giving a pass to M&D whose playing only resulted in 2 goals? Frankly, I think it was the outstanding defense of both teams that led to such a low score. Some games the offense Carrie’s the day and some days it’s the defense.

Eagle Stix also has an outstanding goalie and a stingy defense when they settle in. But I agree they had some challenges on transition defense.

They are a very good team. It’s good to have the challenge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Only a fool criticizes a winning strategy. It seems to me you should be more critical of M&D for allowing Eagle Stix to pass the ball around for “9 minutes”. Surprisingly Eagle Stix wasn’t the only team on the field.

Tell them try it in high school and see the coaches leave and watch someone else. Obviously you have a coach that wants to win first and develop later

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Only a fool criticizes a winning strategy. It seems to me you should be more critical of M&D for allowing Eagle Stix to pass the ball around for “9 minutes”. Surprisingly Eagle Stix wasn’t the only team on the field.

Tell them try it in high school and see the coaches leave and watch someone else. Obviously you have a coach that wants to win first and develop later

Oh, so now I should depend on your assessment of what makes good lacrosse after you have already proven to me that you are likely a parent with little or no coaching expertise. These terrific teams that participated in the NGLL championships are elite girls teams and the players that stick with lacrosse and continue to progress will have their share of college coaches showing interest in them. I support all the girls and not necessarily the parents that can't see the forest for the trees.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Only a fool criticizes a winning strategy. It seems to me you should be more critical of M&D for allowing Eagle Stix to pass the ball around for “9 minutes”. Surprisingly Eagle Stix wasn’t the only team on the field.

Tell them try it in high school and see the coaches leave and watch someone else. Obviously you have a coach that wants to win first and develop later

To improve the game they come up with a way the referees could start a 90 second shot clock and start counting down when it gets to 10. It would improve the game tremendously!

Honestly, wins and losses mean nothing, It’s more about the parent egos. Kids are upset for a minute, but then move on. Develop and play the game. No team should sit around and pass the ball around for 9 minutes. That tells me the team is not very good, and needs to resort to gimmicks to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is more concerned with winning vs letting their girls develop and play the game. Everything is micromanaged on offense. They just hold the ball and don’t really do anything with it. No 11/12 year old game should end in a 3-2 final score.

On one possession early in the 2nd half they passed the ball around for 9 minutes. 😴

Only a fool criticizes a winning strategy. It seems to me you should be more critical of M&D for allowing Eagle Stix to pass the ball around for “9 minutes”. Surprisingly Eagle Stix wasn’t the only team on the field.

Tell them try it in high school and see the coaches leave and watch someone else. Obviously you have a coach that wants to win first and develop later

To improve the game they come up with a way the referees could start a 90 second shot clock and start counting down when it gets to 10. It would improve the game tremendously!

Congrats to M&D for repping the region well. Congrats to all of the teams on a good NGLL season. For the most part it played out as everyone expected. No real surprises. The gap was too big after the top 5 for anyone to pull off an exciting upset. Summer tourneys should be more of the same good competition. Summer tryouts and new fall rosters will be the next big piece of the puzzle.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, wins and losses mean nothing, It’s more about the parent egos. Kids are upset for a minute, but then move on. Develop and play the game. No team should sit around and pass the ball around for 9 minutes. That tells me the team is not very good, and needs to resort to gimmicks to win.

Not a gimmick. When you have a lead, the other team needs to force the tempo, not you. Whenever you go to "yellow" or whatever your team calls it, your job is to pass around and only take a wide open shot in front of the goal. If you are calling this a gimmick, they you are criticizing the top 3 or 4 MIAA teams who do this whenever they have a lead in the second half.

The bigger question is "why did M&D allow them to do this in a game they needed to win"? This shows either bad coaching, poor Lax IQs or likely both.

I watched that game, and the 9 minutes of "holding the ball" as mentioned before must have been measured in dog years by the who posted that. Also, I think the ES team played right before M&D, holding the ball to catch your breathe is also not a gimmick.. To say they are not a very good team after winning NGLL is also a bad take.. The great thing about this division is anyone of these teams on any given day can win.. That makes it great for the age group and lacrosse.. Every 2028 game I watched this past weekend was fantastic..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Honestly, wins and losses mean nothing, It’s more about the parent egos. Kids are upset for a minute, but then move on. Develop and play the game. No team should sit around and pass the ball around for 9 minutes. That tells me the team is not very good, and needs to resort to gimmicks to win.

Not a gimmick. When you have a lead, the other team needs to force the tempo, not you. Whenever you go to "yellow" or whatever your team calls it, your job is to pass around and only take a wide open shot in front of the goal. If you are calling this a gimmick, they you are criticizing the top 3 or 4 MIAA teams who do this whenever they have a lead in the second half.

Miaa is the boys league. In the IAAM the girls have a 90 second shot clock to force kids to play. Congrats on the stall game plan. You will remember this win forever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, wins and losses mean nothing, It’s more about the parent egos. Kids are upset for a minute, but then move on. Develop and play the game. No team should sit around and pass the ball around for 9 minutes. That tells me the team is not very good, and needs to resort to gimmicks to win.

Not a gimmick. When you have a lead, the other team needs to force the tempo, not you. Whenever you go to "yellow" or whatever your team calls it, your job is to pass around and only take a wide open shot in front of the goal. If you are calling this a gimmick, they you are criticizing the top 3 or 4 MIAA teams who do this whenever they have a lead in the second half.

The bigger question is "why did M&D allow them to do this in a game they needed to win"? This shows either bad coaching, poor Lax IQs or likely both.

Or, here's a crazy thought, it shows that they're just 12 and actively growing their lax IQ by learning how to handle different scenarios in real time. Some people really need to give these kids a break and remember they're pre-teens.

Won NGLL and not very good. Super sharp observation. And ball movement and controlling possession with a lead is a gimmick? Good call, Coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now the season is over, how do you rank the following teams’ defense, midfield, attack, and goalie.
M&D, Coppermine, MD United, Crush, Skywalkers, Hero’s or others. May help players interested in transferring to and trying out for a new team in July.

Thoughts? Pretty consistent bottom two.

GOALIES
1) Hero’s
2) MDU
3) Crush
4) M&D
5) Coppermine
6) Skywalkers

DEFENSE
1) MDU
2) Coppermine
3) M&D
4) Crush
5) Hero’s
6) Skywalkers

MIDFIELD
1) M&D
2) Coppermine
3) MDU
4) Hero’s
5) Crush
6) Skywalkers

DRAW
1) M&D
2) MDU
3) Hero’s
4) Coppermine
5) Crush
6) Skywalkers

ATTACK
1) M&D
2) MDU
3) Coppermine
4) Hero’s
5) Crush
6)Skywalkers

Not sure I'd agree on Midfield and Draw. Coppermine is top 2 if not 1 on Draw. Midfield, I'm not sure M&D is better than 3 at best. MDU has more speed as does Coppermine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Honestly, wins and losses mean nothing, It’s more about the parent egos. Kids are upset for a minute, but then move on. Develop and play the game. No team should sit around and pass the ball around for 9 minutes. That tells me the team is not very good, and needs to resort to gimmicks to win.

Not a gimmick. When you have a lead, the other team needs to force the tempo, not you. Whenever you go to "yellow" or whatever your team calls it, your job is to pass around and only take a wide open shot in front of the goal. If you are calling this a gimmick, they you are criticizing the top 3 or 4 MIAA teams who do this whenever they have a lead in the second half.

The bigger question is "why did M&D allow them to do this in a game they needed to win"? This shows either bad coaching, poor Lax IQs or likely both.

Or, here's a crazy thought, it shows that they're just 12 and actively growing their lax IQ by learning how to handle different scenarios in real time. Some people really need to give these kids a break and remember they're pre-teens.

I'd blame coaching more than the girls. At some point, the M&D coach needed to going into a more aggressive defensive set.

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

re: camps Any 28s doing overnights this summer? UVA and Md seem to be the only college campuses doing an overnight camp for 6th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

MDU big advantage is their draw game, I can't put any other team above them at 2028 level for DC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

Agree, MDU and Coppermine has some standout talent. Big question is, will those top players on MDU and Coppermine stick around on their teams or will they move to the "big 3"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

Agree, MDU and Coppermine has some standout talent. Big question is, will those top players on MDU and Coppermine stick around on their teams or will they move to the "big 3"?

Sw needs lots of help at 28 team to be in the big 3. How will their impending sale help? They need a person that will beat the streets to find the best coaches and put the best kids together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

Agree, MDU and Coppermine has some standout talent. Big question is, will those top players on MDU and Coppermine stick around on their teams or will they move to the "big 3"?

Sw needs lots of help at 28 team to be in the big 3. How will their impending sale help? They need a person that will beat the streets to find the best coaches and put the best kids together.

SW's sale has been pending for three year. Don't hold your breathe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

re: camps Any 28s doing overnights this summer? UVA and Md seem to be the only college campuses doing an overnight camp for 6th graders.

Lots of girls doing Triple Threat overnight camp the mon-wed after Lax For The Cure.

Sw needs lots of help at 28 team to be in the big 3. How will their impending sale help? They need a person that will beat the streets to find the best coaches and put the best kids together.[/quote]

SW's sale has been pending for three year. Don't hold your breathe.[/quote]
SW will be just fine. They will get some additional talent in July!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sw needs lots of help at 28 team to be in the big 3. How will their impending sale help? They need a person that will beat the streets to find the best coaches and put the best kids together.

SW's sale has been pending for three year. Don't hold your breathe.[/quote]
SW will be just fine. They will get some additional talent in July![/quote]

Out of curiosity, where do you anticipate the talent coming from? Crush is the obvious source geographically speaking, but they really have to be banking on the SW high school reputation to leave crush for a worse program. And no one is leaving the big 3 unless they are on a B team, or the bottom of the A roster. I know SW has strong reputation at the HS level, so I am not doubting that they can get there, but they need A LOT of people to come over, not just a couple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

Yes, I think it is the same two people arguing: the one who uses "detest" as a noun and the one who keeps saying "lax IQ"

My daughter plays for ES. First and foremost, it was a real honor to play in Baltimore with such an incredible lax culture. NCAA Natty going on at the same time and many of our girls got the thrill of their life going to the Semi’s on Friday and getting pics with some of the players. Just reading all these posts shows that MD is the home of girls lax. Every team we played was awesome, including the team from Florida who didn’t back down all weekend, despite being made up of 28s, 29s, and 30s…Truly growing the game in south Florida, taking down M&D Orlando to get to this tournament. To respond to the conversation about the “stalling”, this team has about a dozen plays to pull from. But there are times that changing strategies is appropriate. Our coach is a Baltimore native and former mens D1 player. Assistant played D1 football. They are very smart and play a pace that makes sense given the current situation. The girls are very disciplined, but the coaches emphasize that the plays are a foundation, but improvising out of the plays is encouraged. There were a bunch of examples of that this weekend…you’d see that if you knew what the plays were supposed to be. We are so blessed to play with a great group of girls and families and so fortunate that our daughters get to play with and compete against the best in the country by coming up north. We look forward to seeing you all (aka “y’all) this summer. And if you’re ever in north Atlanta, look us up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter plays for ES. First and foremost, it was a real honor to play in Baltimore with such an incredible lax culture. NCAA Natty going on at the same time and many of our girls got the thrill of their life going to the Semi’s on Friday and getting pics with some of the players. Just reading all these posts shows that MD is the home of girls lax. Every team we played was awesome, including the team from Florida who didn’t back down all weekend, despite being made up of 28s, 29s, and 30s…Truly growing the game in south Florida, taking down M&D Orlando to get to this tournament. To respond to the conversation about the “stalling”, this team has about a dozen plays to pull from. But there are times that changing strategies is appropriate. Our coach is a Baltimore native and former mens D1 player. Assistant played D1 football. They are very smart and play a pace that makes sense given the current situation. The girls are very disciplined, but the coaches emphasize that the plays are a foundation, but improvising out of the plays is encouraged. There were a bunch of examples of that this weekend…you’d see that if you knew what the plays were supposed to be. We are so blessed to play with a great group of girls and families and so fortunate that our daughters get to play with and compete against the best in the country by coming up north. We look forward to seeing you all (aka “y’all) this summer. And if you’re ever in north Atlanta, look us up.

Congrats on your championship run. Sounds like your coaches are on the right track for player development. Teach them ball possession and set plays when they are young. Then as they get to HS, they will be ready to incorporate the ball possession concept with a free lance motion offense.

Respect!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sw needs lots of help at 28 team to be in the big 3. How will their impending sale help? They need a person that will beat the streets to find the best coaches and put the best kids together.

SW's sale has been pending for three year. Don't hold your breathe.

SW will be just fine. They will get some additional talent in July![/quote]

Out of curiosity, where do you anticipate the talent coming from? Crush is the obvious source geographically speaking, but they really have to be banking on the SW high school reputation to leave crush for a worse program. And no one is leaving the big 3 unless they are on a B team, or the bottom of the A roster. I know SW has strong reputation at the HS level, so I am not doubting that they can get there, but they need A LOT of people to come over, not just a couple[/quote]

I honestly think Coppermine has effected SW the most. CM younger teams are strong and sw teams are weak. Right now sw28 are an average B team and no top talent is going there. Those talents will go to cm. I wouldn’t be shocked if the better players of sw go elsewhere this summer.

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the forum just becoming the same two parents arguing back and forth?

Let’s talk something productive—player movement during tryouts, tourney predictions, coaching changes, tourney venue tips, camps, etc.

Who was best NGLL 2028 player this year? In MidAtlantic Region, my vote is for that amazing middie from MDU or the biggest kid on Coppermine’s roster.

re: camps Any 28s doing overnights this summer? UVA and Md seem to be the only college campuses doing an overnight camp for 6th graders.

Lots of girls doing Triple Threat overnight camp the mon-wed after Lax For The Cure.

The Triple threat camp is during the same dates as both the UVA and Univ of Maryland camps, so probably lots of talent spread out amongst those 3. Curious to who all goes to Triple threat from the top MD teams along with Pride/Stars since it's mostly run by the Stars founder.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

Number 1 i don’t know if those players will go to Coppermine. I anticipate players going there but from sw i have no idea. Number 2 how do you know they won’t get playing time? Never know if players decide to just play soccer, move on to another team. A good team should have depth and a single girl should not play the entire game. If a team has 6 solid middies that is ideal to keep fresh especially in tournament season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

After watching Coppermine play my daughters team, i would agree that they are a very talented team but definitely if they pick up a few good players could be outstanding. Which I detest to say and hope doesn’t happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

There are 3 maybe 4 girls on Coppermine Blue who can definitely play on a good A team next year. Will be interesting to see if Coppermine can keep them in the program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

After watching Coppermine play my daughters team, i would agree that they are a very talented team but definitely if they pick up a few good players could be outstanding. Which I detest to say and hope doesn’t happen.

I agree Coppermine is not a complete team. No team at this age is. I also agree with earlier that SW is being hurt by Coppermine. We are looking at a new team for my daughter and we took Skywalkers off our list bc seems like they have issues with coaching.

Is it the coaching or the lack of talent on the team? ( I am truly asking that question because I don’t know). What teams are you considering? We are also looking.

I was honestly asking the question. I 100 % agree with you that the depth of a team is truly important especially during the summer heat. Have you seen a team that is good at managing depth aka subbing appropriately and using their entire bench?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was honestly asking the question. I 100 % agree with you that the depth of a team is truly important especially during the summer heat. Have you seen a team that is good at managing depth aka subbing appropriately and using their entire bench?

Typically teams that sub, because its just very hard to find top level talent, pay for it in production. You may see some of the top-5 teams lose in summer due to lack of depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it the coaching or the lack of talent on the team? ( I am truly asking that question because I don’t know). What teams are you considering? We are also looking.

I heard the 28 coach left and looking at their 27 team hasn’t gotten better. We are most likely going to try out for Coppermine. I made sure to pay attention to the parents and besides the 1 or 2 people on here that have a grudge, the parents seemed very nice. Team seems to be coached well and Coppermine offers a lot when it comes to fields, winter space. Lastly my daughter knows a few girls on that team and she likes them. I want my daughter to be pushed and want to get better each day.

Misconception - Coppermine does have a lot of fields, however they have several sports clubs that utilizes those fields (soccer, lax, etc), also the fields go to rentals first, then the club. You will notice that Coppermine will have 5/6 teams share a field at one time.

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was honestly asking the question. I 100 % agree with you that the depth of a team is truly important especially during the summer heat. Have you seen a team that is good at managing depth aka subbing appropriately and using their entire bench?

Heros and to a lesser degree M&D use their benchs well. Some teams, especially the NY/NY teams, who play a slower tempo tend not to be as impacted as others.

Depth really makes more of a difference in playoff rounds when you will often have back to back games with no breaks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

After watching Coppermine play my daughters team, i would agree that they are a very talented team but definitely if they pick up a few good players could be outstanding. Which I detest to say and hope doesn’t happen.

I agree Coppermine is not a complete team. No team at this age is. I also agree with earlier that SW is being hurt by Coppermine. We are looking at a new team for my daughter and we took Skywalkers off our list bc seems like they have issues with coaching.

To be fair, their 28 Blue coach-- Kathy Liotta is outstanding. Used to coach their 21 team and developed many all-americans.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

Coppermine is actively recruiting new players for the A team. There is room for talent as they don’t play most of their bench, and losing to Hero’s and M&D this year has them looking to make changes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I personally don’t like the coaching style of m&d 28

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Misconception - Coppermine does have a lot of fields, however they have several sports clubs that utilizes those fields (soccer, lax, etc), also the fields go to rentals first, then the club. You will notice that Coppermine will have 5/6 teams share a field at one time.

This is completely wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

Coppermine is actively recruiting new players for the A team. There is room for talent as they don’t play most of their bench, and losing to Hero’s and M&D this year has them looking to make changes.

Actively recruiting?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

If you are talking 2028 and younger, how do you not put MD United in top-3?

28, 29, 30 all made playoffs.

28s have two NGLL championships, 29 reigning Lax4Cure champions and 30s in last two NGLL championship games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just curious where do you think that talent is going to fit into Coppermine? On the black or blue team? I can’t see A team players going to a B team or going to a team where they will get little to no playing time.

I don't think Coppermine is as complete of a team as you are giving them credit for. They have a couple of top players, another group of speedy athletes, but after watching them a few times, they are far from a complete team. Their best player still does a majority of their work. And that is not a knock on her, she is a very talented player; but if you remove her from the field they are a different team altogether. And Isn't coppermine possibly losing some to soccer this year?

Coppermine is actively recruiting new players for the A team. There is room for talent as they don’t play most of their bench, and losing to Hero’s and M&D this year has them looking to make changes.

Actively recruiting?

Haha, actively recruiting! Is there an NIL deal with it. Our famous Coppermine hater back at it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

If you are talking 2028 and younger, how do you not put MD United in top-3?

28, 29, 30 all made playoffs.

28s have two NGLL championships, 29 reigning Lax4Cure champions and 30s in last two NGLL championship games.

MDU also has a much better history of getting girls recruited than many clubs so, if you’re going to dethrone SW, MDU would be logical next in line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I personally don’t like the coaching style of m&d 28

They just won the Mid-Atlantic. They just beat a tough MDU and Coppermine team. What’s not to like? Looking to have my daughter try out for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

If you are talking 2028 and younger, how do you not put MD United in top-3?

28, 29, 30 all made playoffs.

28s have two NGLL championships, 29 reigning Lax4Cure champions and 30s in last two NGLL championship games.

Message says as a whole. 24-27 aren’t very good and 28-30 will change too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

If you are talking 2028 and younger, how do you not put MD United in top-3?

28, 29, 30 all made playoffs.

28s have two NGLL championships, 29 reigning Lax4Cure champions and 30s in last two NGLL championship games.

Message says as a whole. 24-27 aren’t very good and 28-30 will change too.

I’m referring to “ But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine”

You have no way of knowing how 28-30 turns out, and you obviously don’t watch a lot of the 24-27 teams either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I personally don’t like the coaching style of m&d 28

They just won the Mid-Atlantic. They just beat a tough MDU and Coppermine team. What’s not to like? Looking to have my daughter try out for them.

After watching the M&D Coppermine Champ game, the coaching by M&D in the game was 1 of the difference makers. Both have good coaching staffs though.

To the other posters, I can see Coppermine taking over in that top "tier" of clubs, they have a lot going for them and lots of talent. It does look like their 28 tryouts conflict with Hero's and M&D though, so will be interesting to see where everyone chooses to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best coaches for player development are at M&D. Those girls have significantly improved since year 1. They don't rely on 1 girl, a different girl beats us each time we play them.

I can only take your word but if you look at class rankings they are the only team consistently in the top 5 of each age group. Impressive for sure.

If we’re naming the big 3 MidAtlantic Programs as a whole, it’s #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Skywalkers. But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine

#1 M&D is the reigning dynasty in Baltimore, that does not mean they can hold onto the top spot. That doesn’t mean their going anywhere either. All teams are solid, and are the threshold other programs compare themselves to. Interesting to see how their sale will effect the program as changes come into effect soon.

#2 Hero’s produces amazing talent, but doesn’t always have the “winning” team. They have B teams at all age groups and those B teams are stacked with talent. Their program comes across as more laid back, which is a nice change from how intense M&D can be. Solid #2, if not future #1.

#3 Coppermine has hired new coaches for their younger teams, which has changed the program entirely. To the poster commenting on 5-6 teams per field—how would that even be possible? They usually have 1 team on each side of the field practicing. It seems like they are just exploding with growth in multiple counties, I doubt there are issues finding fields. Combine that with the number of clinics and youth classes they hold year round, and the fact that they support the idea of multi-sport athletes, they have carved out a nice piece of the pie for themselves moving forward.

The SW name will only carry them so much further. Hoping and wishing for new players to come is not a great business model. College coaches will notice the drop in talent. How will that effect their ability to get even their top kids recruited? To be the best, you have to be practicing against the best.

If you are talking 2028 and younger, how do you not put MD United in top-3?

28, 29, 30 all made playoffs.

28s have two NGLL championships, 29 reigning Lax4Cure champions and 30s in last two NGLL championship games.

Message says as a whole. 24-27 aren’t very good and 28-30 will change too.

I’m referring to “ But looking at the future, 2028’s & younger, there’s no way that stays the same. IMO #1M&D #2Hero’s #3Coppermine”

You have no way of knowing how 28-30 turns out, and you obviously don’t watch a lot of the 24-27 teams either.

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

The Top 5 28s are accurate and will probably trade wins and loses back and forth all summer (I would put crush as #5 they would definitely beat NL). The over all picture is much harder to navigate. The middle school landscape looks different at every grade level, which is why it is so hard to picture how HS will shape up. Just a few of the discrepancies across the middle school grades based on NGLL:

The 27s have BLC and LBC and Integrity which don't even have teams in the A division of the 28s and BLC has all but folded in B.

The 26s have Skywalkers, Pride and Stars at the top of their divisions, which are at the bottom of the pack in the 28 A division.

Crush and Coppermine went 1-7 in the 26s

Next Level didn't have an A team in the 27s, or the 26s so it is hard to believe they will become a top contender at the 28s

It is hard to gauge the overall quality of a program when their middle school teams have such discrepancies in talent. Heros and M&D will likely remain at the top, but how the rest shake out with moves and additions remains to be seen.

MDU did not have a winning record in either 26s or 27s but went 7-1 in both 28s and 29s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

I don’t like how they scream at their players and the refs. Tone of voice matters. Grown men screaming at young women is not a good look, and being their lacrosse coach should not excuse this behavior. Screaming at refs, who are just trying to do their job, is like being rude to the waiter or customer service agent. Classless and unnecessary.

I don’t like how they run an offense still very dependent upon 1v1 dodging. Wins championships, doesn’t develop Lax IQ or how to move off ball.

Overall, they have a good team with nice families. They play hard, but not overly aggressive defense. Their draw game is solid. The program knows how to get kids recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MDU did not have a winning record in either 26s or 27s but went 7-1 in both 28s and 29s.

MDU went 7-1 in both 28s, 29s and 2030s. (outside of M&D, who can claim that winning %?)

MDU 26 went 4-4.

MDU 27 went 3-5 but beat an NGLL playoff team, lost by 1 to another playoff team and by 2 to another. playoff team.
They also have beat Top-6 2027 in Aces and YJs in the last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

Very much debatable how strong Coppermine 27 is. They seem to have faded the last few seasons. Hard team to figure out, they went 6-2 in NGLL but only beat 1 team with a winning record. Only made playoffs due to the uneven division lineups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

I don’t like how they scream at their players and the refs. Tone of voice matters. Grown men screaming at young women is not a good look, and being their lacrosse coach should not excuse this behavior. Screaming at refs, who are just trying to do their job, is like being rude to the waiter or customer service agent. Classless and unnecessary.

I don’t like how they run an offense still very dependent upon 1v1 dodging. Wins championships, doesn’t develop Lax IQ or how to move off ball.

Overall, they have a good team with nice families. They play hard, but not overly aggressive defense. Their draw game is solid. The program knows how to get kids recruited.

Go to a practice and judge them on their interaction with their team and how well they teach. Also if players and families keep coming back and they have a good relationship with their coaches and teammates your opinion means nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

I don’t like how they scream at their players and the refs. Tone of voice matters. Grown men screaming at young women is not a good look, and being their lacrosse coach should not excuse this behavior. Screaming at refs, who are just trying to do their job, is like being rude to the waiter or customer service agent. Classless and unnecessary.

I don’t like how they run an offense still very dependent upon 1v1 dodging. Wins championships, doesn’t develop Lax IQ or how to move off ball.

Overall, they have a good team with nice families. They play hard, but not overly aggressive defense. Their draw game is solid. The program knows how to get kids recruited.

As a parent with a child on a team, I can concede that the tone takes some getting used to, but that's true about a lot of coaches communication styles on and off the field. Choosing a new team is always scary because you are putting your child in the hands of coaches who they may or may not mesh well with - so this is always something to consider.

What I can tell you based on our family's experience is that the coaches have good relationships with the girls. They will generally take care to follow up with girls off the field if they know (or can sense) a player is questioning themselves or has taken something hard. As far as ref interactions, I'm not on that sideline, but I think you may be exaggerating that a bit.

In terms of offense, they've been working on developing all the girls and their lax IQ since day one. Whether you think they run 1v1 more than they should or not, something that is great about their team is that everyone is involved in seeing their offense succeed. If they score 10 goals in a day, 7 different girls may have scored them. Ultimately, they're all learning and developing, and that's what matters.

I'm obviously biased. As I said, I have a kid on the team. But if you are genuinely considering a team, the best thing you can do is talk to people who are a part of it. Or, even better, reach out to the coaches and ask to attend a practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently.

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently"

Talk about flawed logic. Why not apply that to Crush vs MDU?

Yes, an area as big as "Baltimore" and with a population density many times greater than Anne Arundel County, you are going to find more lacrosse talent. None of that means Coppermine is "better" than MDU. Does this same logic apply with Severna Park and Broadneck considered lesser than say Delaney or Loch Raven HS? Is St. Mary's lesser than John Carroll due to this logic as well?

This forum is TOXIC…for every positive and thoughtful post there are 5 more negative ones. Lots of “computer warriors” out there hiding behind the screen.

There are so many good players and good teams in this area, many good coaching staffs, can’t say the same about the adults on this forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

I don’t like how they scream at their players and the refs. Tone of voice matters. Grown men screaming at young women is not a good look, and being their lacrosse coach should not excuse this behavior. Screaming at refs, who are just trying to do their job, is like being rude to the waiter or customer service agent. Classless and unnecessary.

I don’t like how they run an offense still very dependent upon 1v1 dodging. Wins championships, doesn’t develop Lax IQ or how to move off ball.

Overall, they have a good team with nice families. They play hard, but not overly aggressive defense. Their draw game is solid. The program knows how to get kids recruited.

Different strokes for different folks. We are looking at moving to a new club this summer and the coaching is 1 of the pros in looking at and trying out for M&D's 28 team. Having played them, didn't see any screaming at refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This forum is TOXIC…for every positive and thoughtful post there are 5 more negative ones. Lots of “computer warriors” out there hiding behind the screen.

There are so many good players and good teams in this area, many good coaching staffs, can’t say the same about the adults on this forum.

And your screen name is....?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently.

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently"

Talk about flawed logic. Why not apply that to Crush vs MDU?

Yes, an area as big as "Baltimore" and with a population density many times greater than Anne Arundel County, you are going to find more lacrosse talent. None of that means Coppermine is "better" than MDU. Does this same logic apply with Severna Park and Broadneck considered lesser than say Delaney or Loch Raven HS? Is St. Mary's lesser than John Carroll due to this logic as well?

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently" What an stunad. Coppermine will fade as always in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently.

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently"

Talk about flawed logic. Why not apply that to Crush vs MDU?

Yes, an area as big as "Baltimore" and with a population density many times greater than Anne Arundel County, you are going to find more lacrosse talent. None of that means Coppermine is "better" than MDU. Does this same logic apply with Severna Park and Broadneck considered lesser than say Delaney or Loch Raven HS? Is St. Mary's lesser than John Carroll due to this logic as well?

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently" What an stunad. Coppermine will fade as always in high school.

If the top players stay at coppermine and MDU, there is no reason that they would fade away. That is the whole point of the recent conversations. MDU area top teams at 28s, but not typically top teams in HS. Will they stay together and build the program or will their top players leave and the high school ranks for 28s will trend the way of years past with M&D, Heros, and Skywalkers being at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you tell us why you don't like the MND 28 Coaching staff?

I don’t like how they scream at their players and the refs. Tone of voice matters. Grown men screaming at young women is not a good look, and being their lacrosse coach should not excuse this behavior. Screaming at refs, who are just trying to do their job, is like being rude to the waiter or customer service agent. Classless and unnecessary.

I don’t like how they run an offense still very dependent upon 1v1 dodging. Wins championships, doesn’t develop Lax IQ or how to move off ball.

Overall, they have a good team with nice families. They play hard, but not overly aggressive defense. Their draw game is solid. The program knows how to get kids recruited.

Looks like someone is scared one of their top players is gonna jump ship and join M&D.

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

Really top heavy. Hopefully MD teams can perform well against the out of state teams. I'll be interest to see how FCA, Pride, Crush do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OP here, I agree that MDU is in top 5, but just don’t see them as top 3 program at any age level. No one is shaking in their boots knowing they have to play MDU.

Top 5 MidAtlantic Overall:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Skywalkers
4. MDU
5. ????

Top 5 MidAtlantic 28’s & Younger:
1. M&D
2. Hero’s
3. Coppermine
4. MDU
5. ???? Looking at how standings ended up for NGLL, there’s no clear #5 program. My gut says Crush or Next Level, but they don’t have consistent teams at A Division. Most notably, this spot CANNOT go to Skywalkers. Their younger teams, outside of one or two good players each team, are just not elite anymore.

Again, what are you basing this on? MDU had the same number of teams 28 and younger in the semi-finals and finals as Coppermine. Coppermine has one great team (28) and 2 particularly strong teams (27 & 29) at younger years. But as many people have pointed out in the past, having strong young teams isn't necessarily predictive of success at older ages for a number of reasons. I don't see any solid logic to crown Coppermine future "top 3" over other clubs. And it's not because they have access to fields - most teams have access to fields.

I don’t see a huge gap between 3 and 4. Put MDU at 4 and Coppermine at 4 if that makes you happy. My point is more about Skywalkers. MDU has had past success and will continue to do so. Coppermine has not had great teams in the past, but is likely to capture that Skywalkers/Baltimore talent moving forward to compete with M&D for the same players. I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently.

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently"

Talk about flawed logic. Why not apply that to Crush vs MDU?

Yes, an area as big as "Baltimore" and with a population density many times greater than Anne Arundel County, you are going to find more lacrosse talent. None of that means Coppermine is "better" than MDU. Does this same logic apply with Severna Park and Broadneck considered lesser than say Delaney or Loch Raven HS? Is St. Mary's lesser than John Carroll due to this logic as well?

" I put Coppermine above MDU because Baltimore players are overall better than the kids down South both in the past and currently" What an stunad. Coppermine will fade as always in high school.

If the top players stay at coppermine and MDU, there is no reason that they would fade away. That is the whole point of the recent conversations. MDU area top teams at 28s, but not typically top teams in HS. Will they stay together and build the program or will their top players leave and the high school ranks for 28s will trend the way of years past with M&D, Heros, and Skywalkers being at the top.

For reference since everyone loves numbers. UA 150 (the #1 invite only showcase inthe country for 24s and 25s) released rosters by club last week. Here are the breakouts by club. About 400 girls in total across the country. To be fair, Robinson Sports co-runs this event which explains why so many M&D girls. That said, its pretty directions round talent levels.

Sky Walkers 28
M&D 31
Hero's 12
NEMS 12
MDU 3
Capital 11
Pride 5
Integrity 4
TLC 3
Coppermine 3
MC Elite 2
CCLax 2

Outside DMV

Yellow Jackets 17
STEPS 10
Top Guns 13
Team 180 12
Florida Select 11
HHH 8

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

Really top heavy. Hopefully MD teams can perform well against the out of state teams. I'll be interest to see how FCA, Pride, Crush do.

FCA is in the same group as 10-12, they shouldn't be 6. Pride, Hoco and Next Level are all higher/better.

Are we to really believe this is the downfall of Skywalkers? I really don’t see that happening!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it the coaching or the lack of talent on the team? ( I am truly asking that question because I don’t know). What teams are you considering? We are also looking.

I heard the 28 coach left and looking at their 27 team hasn’t gotten better. We are most likely going to try out for Coppermine. I made sure to pay attention to the parents and besides the 1 or 2 people on here that have a grudge, the parents seemed very nice. Team seems to be coached well and Coppermine offers a lot when it comes to fields, winter space. Lastly my daughter knows a few girls on that team and she likes them. I want my daughter to be pushed and want to get better each day.

Which coach left?
2028/29 Blue Coaches:
Kathy Liotta & Jordan Sdanowich & Rayna Deltuva

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?

They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?

They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2.

interchangeable, meaning they are just as likely to lose to one of the other 2. They are NGLL Champs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?

They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2.

interchangeable, meaning they are just as likely to lose to one of the other 2. They are NGLL Champs.

Guess what, they didn't lose though, so they go to # 1, that's how things work when you win the Championship and the Runner Up goes to # 2.

It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.

Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.

The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D to reach the NGLL finals.

That is my opinion - right or wrong!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.

Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.

The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D together reach the NGLL finals.

That is my opinion - right or wrong!

Good news....we can move on from the NGLL conversation, because they get their 1st cracknat eachother today at impulse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2, 3 and 4 are interchangeable

All four are interchangeable. Didn't M&D win the semi and championship in one goal games?

They still are the champs, so how do they not deserve the # 1? M&D and Coppermine separated themselves as the top 2.

Well hero’s loss today at lax by the sea probably knocks them down to 4th. (Albeit in a 25 min playoff game)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It seems strange to me when people try to create their own interpretations about which teams are the best for any age group, especially for the 2028 age group since this is the principal group in this thread. When comparing teams that play in the same league, i.e., NGLL mid-Atlantic, the logical method is to use the final standings leading to the NGLL National tournament. Every other method reflects more on the wishes of the commentor and not what is real.

Likewise, results of any tournament of a league, i.e., NGLL, should form the basis of deciding any ranking of participating teams in the tournament.

The only time someone's personal prioritization makes any sense is when the commentor is comparing teams that have not played each other or were not represented in the tournament. For example, someone could logically argue that Coppermine was better than any team in the NGLL national tournament except for Eagle Stix, Aces, and M&D. (They may or may not be right, but it is strictly a matter of opinion.) It would be wishful thinking to rank Coppermine ahead of the team (M&D) that defeated it to get to the NGLL national tournament or to rank Coppermine higher than the two teams that defeated M&D together reach the NGLL finals.

That is my opinion - right or wrong!

Good news....we can move on from the NGLL conversation, because they get their 1st cracknat eachother today at impulse

NGLL.
Lax for the cure
Mid Atlantic.
The only 3 that the competition means something right now. The rest are playdays and should be used for development. Stop with the bs rankings from Tom IAmInsecure and Harry that has a kid playing.

And M&D loss to crush probably knocks them to 5th right? This was the point of the post that the top 4 or 5 teams are very competitive in a very good age group.

Just enjoy the ride!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And M&D loss to crush probably knocks them to 5th right? This was the point of the post that the top 4 or 5 teams are very competitive in a very good age group.

Just enjoy the ride!

Agree! Not much of a goal differential between the 4 clubs.

Summer Genesis Origins Buzzy Ouchies Bracket. One team definitely does not belong:
Aces Elite
Crush
Eagle Stix
Legacy LI
MD United
NEMS
Coppermine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer Genesis Origins Buzzy Ouchies Bracket. One team definitely does not belong:
Aces Elite
Crush
Eagle Stix
Legacy LI
MD United
NEMS
Coppermine

I count two that don’t belong — NEMS and Legacy

Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend.

No playoffs
No t shirts
No college recruiting.
Just lots of parents thinking these games mean more than just fun and learning for the girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Live Love Lax predictions? Looks like most of NGLL A is playing in Live Love Lax this weekend.

No playoffs
No t shirts
No college recruiting.
Just lots of parents thinking these games mean more than just fun and learning for the girls.

Yeah, seems difficult to make predictions knowing that many teams use these showcases as opportunities for development, where all girls on roster get plenty of PT.

Regardless that’s gonna be an entertaining bracket to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regardless that’s gonna be an entertaining bracket to watch.

For the most part...really depends on the match ups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

6-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

6-5

But I thought MDU was better than Coppermine? That aged well.

It was 9-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

6-5

Are we ranking based on NGLL season and playoffs or continuing with tournament results ?
M&D lost to Crush 8-5 while MDU and Coppermine beat Crush 6-5 and 8-6 respectively. Does this mean M&D doesn't deserve #1 ?
M&D beat Coppermine in NGLL Championship and deserves all the accolades and #1 Ranking as did Coppermine in the previous year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

6-5

But I thought MDU was better than Coppermine? That aged well.

As said, they are pretty all close together. Yes, losing twice by a single goal each time, can't really say one is better or worse right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was 9-5

It was 6-5, were you there or do you have trouble reading a red and blue numbered sign?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Final Power Rankings:

#1 M&D 9-1 (Congrats)
#2 MDU 7-2
#3 Coppermine* 8-2
#4 Hero’s 7-2
#5 Crush 5-3
#6 FCA 3-5
#7 Pride 3-5
#8 HoCo 3-5
#9 Next Level 3-5
#10 Skywalkers 1-7
#11 Stars 1-7
#12 Limelight 1-7

lol comical. Coppermine beat MDU when it mattered the most. Get over it already and move on.

By a goal....I could see either being at #2.

Coppermine beat MDU 9-5 at Impulse this past Saturday.

6-5

Are we ranking based on NGLL season and playoffs or continuing with tournament results ?
M&D lost to Crush 8-5 while MDU and Coppermine beat Crush 6-5 and 8-6 respectively. Does this mean M&D doesn't deserve #1 ?
M&D beat Coppermine in NGLL Championship and deserves all the accolades and #1 Ranking as did Coppermine in the previous year.

Again, they are all basically even.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was 9-5

Tourney Machine says 6-5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was 9-5

Who cares? It was a showcase. As has been pointed out, many teams play for development, not to win.

Not sure why I keep coming back here, its like a car crash.

There are so many talented girls in the area that play for different clubs.

Who's the best, what's our ranking, showcase vs NGLL...just enjoy the atmosphere of competitive lacrosse in Maryland!

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

Yes. They have soccer conflicts.

Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

Looks like Coppermine is in the top Division for Live Love Lax, were in top Division for Impulse, didn’t get into Lax for the Cure and Mid-Atlantic hasn’t been scheduled yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

And Maryland United.
And Heros.
And maybe Yellow Jackets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

All you people make me sick! Give props to all the teams in MD. They all work hard and fight for the top spot. The problem is...you parents that get on here and talk trash about other people's kids, clubs and schedules without any real knowledge of the situation. Anonymity allows people to behave terribly on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Coppermine playing in the B division again this year to avoid playing the better competition? We’re coming up from Georgia and would love to play them. The only teams that can compete with us are Aces and M&D

All you people make me sick! Give props to all the teams in MD. They all work hard and fight for the top spot. The problem is...you parents that get on here and talk trash about other people's kids, clubs and schedules without any real knowledge of the situation. Anonymity allows people to behave terribly on this site.

The original poster is a troll. No parent of any GA team knows what division Coppermine played in during prior tournaments, nor do they care. ES parents are thrilled to be in great brackets for the Hershey and MD tournaments this summer and have immense respect for the MD and NE programs. There is so much talent in the area and it’s a great test for the girls. The comment about Aces and M&D being the only teams that compete is ridiculous and again, someone trolling. ES parents are plugged into the 26 and 27 ages groups and know there are so many other outstanding clubs with great talent we will see. Many of these top programs are very close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.

They went 1-1 in NGLL this season against M&D and had a better record than M&D at their most recent tourney (Impulse and tied them, didn't lose to Crush). They along with M&D, Aces and Eagle Stix are the clear top 4 teams at the 28 level. They don't play in weak divisions and are in the Top bracket for Live Love Lax this weekend. Time to find something else to troll about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.

They went 1-1 in NGLL this season against M&D and had a better record than M&D at their most recent tourney (Impulse and tied them, didn't lose to Crush). They along with M&D, Aces and Eagle Stix are the clear top 4 teams at the 28 level. They don't play in weak divisions and are in the Top bracket for Live Love Lax this weekend. Time to find something else to troll about.

These rankings are awful and mean absolutely zero. The top 5 are always really good teams that battle each other. The lower teams are random with no real reason as to placement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.

They went 1-1 in NGLL this season against M&D and had a better record than M&D at their most recent tourney (Impulse and tied them, didn't lose to Crush). They along with M&D, Aces and Eagle Stix are the clear top 4 teams at the 28 level. They don't play in weak divisions and are in the Top bracket for Live Love Lax this weekend. Time to find something else to troll about.

These rankings are awful and mean absolutely zero. The top 5 are always really good teams that battle each other. The lower teams are random with no real reason as to placement.

The rankings for the older teams are pretty accurate. The 2028 rankings will get better after the Summer tournament season when there is more data.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine is ranked #1 based on the updated USClub rankings. Crazy since they didn't win NGLL. The rankings are a bit flawed as they give huge points for blowouts, regardless of competition. If they play in weak divisions, they will likely maintain, though Lax for Cure has only one playoff bracket so they would be forced to meet top teams.

They went 1-1 in NGLL this season against M&D and had a better record than M&D at their most recent tourney (Impulse and tied them, didn't lose to Crush). They along with M&D, Aces and Eagle Stix are the clear top 4 teams at the 28 level. They don't play in weak divisions and are in the Top bracket for Live Love Lax this weekend. Time to find something else to troll about.

These rankings are awful and mean absolutely zero. The top 5 are always really good teams that battle each other. The lower teams are random with no real reason as to placement.

The rankings for the older teams are pretty accurate. The 2028 rankings will get better after the Summer tournament season when there is more data.

Do you know the older teams ? 26 is bad. Stars is not 2nd best team and Nems at 24. Not a chance.

I have no idea about Stars 26 but the NEMS 24 is very strong including wins against M&D black and skywalkers blue . They have a ton of interest coming from colleges coaches.
Just shows people on her don’t know what they’re talking about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have no idea about Stars 26 but the NEMS 24 is very strong including wins against M&D black and skywalkers blue . They have a ton of interest coming from colleges coaches.
Just shows people on her don’t know what they’re talking about

I can speak for the 24 team and rankings, literally makes no sense that nems is number 1. They had 6 total games in the fall because they skipped 2 tournaments and the only tough game they lost. They didn’t play m&d or heros and Don’t use skywalkers as a bar as they had a losing record in the fall and are coached to be a bunch of thugs who consistently get 4-6 yellow cards a game.
So I guess your last point is correct, people really don’t know what they are talking about

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Wow! Tough bracket. Watched Maget play today…they are gonna be tough!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Nems is a solid team but not number 1. Never won a tourney and beat a few good teams in showcases. These rankings will level out after L4C and Mid Atlantic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nems is a solid team but not number 1. Never won a tourney and beat a few good teams in showcases. These rankings will level out after L4C and Mid Atlantic.

Let’s keep the focus on the 28 teams. NEMS is really struggling in this age group. The couple of times I have seen them play they looked lost out there and are not fundamentally sound. They need drastic changes in coaching and hope they can pick up some talent. I heard they will be losing their two best players in July.

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

I believe they are 28s. They do have 4 29s on the team-2 definitely don’t belong. The other two will be good in the 29 league. You have to wonder why their good players keep looking elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

I believe they are 28s. They do have 4 29s on the team-2 definitely don’t belong. The other two will be good in the 29 league. You have to wonder why their good players keep looking elsewhere.

I wish people commenting would not make negative comments about specific players. The people you are criticizing are 11 and 12 years old and should not be subjected to such negativity.

Any child that makes a team deserves to be on the team.

Live Love Lax seemed a little off this year. Every bracket had at least one team who didn't belong. The 28s may have gotten ticks from the knee high grass at Chesland, but at least they got to play on sunday. I can't believe they cancelled all of those games and the storms never really panned out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Live Love Lax seemed a little off this year. Every bracket had at least one team who didn't belong. The 28s may have gotten ticks from the knee high grass at Chesland, but at least they got to play on sunday. I can't believe they cancelled all of those games and the storms never really panned out.

I was at Calvert Regional 8am Sunday, the issue was, they played during the heavy downpours, and trashed the fields. If they canceled 8am-noon, they would have gotten the afternoon games in.

Fields were def unplayable, least the ones I saw. 8 meter was just mud as was the crease.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

I believe they are 28s. They do have 4 29s on the team-2 definitely don’t belong. The other two will be good in the 29 league. You have to wonder why their good players keep looking elsewhere.

I wish people commenting would not make negative comments about specific players. The people you are criticizing are 11 and 12 years old and should not be subjected to such negativity.

Any child that makes a team deserves to be on the team.

I agree players shouldn't be criticized. But, there are cases when the intent of some teams is to just fill a roster spot and take their money for financial reasons. Also, you forgot the "hold back" age of 13 in this group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

I believe they are 28s. They do have 4 29s on the team-2 definitely don’t belong. The other two will be good in the 29 league. You have to wonder why their good players keep looking elsewhere.

Nems doesnt have a strong record with recruiting or developing players. At all levels!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Anyone have a link or know how the brackets will be for Lax for Cure as far as playoffs?

I know previously, the A bracket got multiple seeds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a link or know how the brackets will be for Lax for Cure as far as playoffs?

I know previously, the A bracket got multiple seeds.

Blush: Seed 12
Carnation: Seed 11
Fuschia: Seeds 8,10
Magenta: Seeds 7,9
Pink: Seeds 3,5,6
Rose: Seeds 1,2, 4

Anyone know the status of TLC for next year? Are they gonna have a 28 team? The tryout info on their website is for 21-22 season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride was down by a few goals but MDU received 4 yellow cards and were therefore a man down for the last half of the second half and Pride came back to tie it. Pride also lost to SW by 1 this weekend, however, SW had some out of state guest players (which I assume will continue for the rest of the summer) and were therefore much improved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride was down by a few goals but MDU received 4 yellow cards and were therefore a man down for the last half of the second half and Pride came back to tie it. Pride also lost to SW by 1 this weekend, however, SW had some out of state guest players (which I assume will continue for the rest of the summer) and were therefore much improved.

4 yellow cards seems pretty excessive at this level of play/tourney style etc. I did notice the refs were calling a lot of ticky tack fouls throughout the weekend etc. Makes sense on how they were able to come back with having the man up advantage. Interesting on the SW side.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are the 2 best players, girls that are moving down to the 29 team?

I believe they are 28s. They do have 4 29s on the team-2 definitely don’t belong. The other two will be good in the 29 league. You have to wonder why their good players keep looking elsewhere.

I wish people commenting would not make negative comments about specific players. The people you are criticizing are 11 and 12 years old and should not be subjected to such negativity.

Any child that makes a team deserves to be on the team.

I agree players shouldn't be criticized. But, there are cases when the intent of some teams is to just fill a roster spot and take their money for financial reasons. Also, you forgot the "hold back" age of 13 in this group.

I guess your reason for saying I forgot the "hold back" age of 13 in this group" is that you think it is okay to be negative about children 13 years old. It is not okay. I don't have a problem with someone saying, as you did, that a team may fill a roster spot for financial reasons because that is not a negative comment about a player. I generally disagree with the comment on a factual basis, but not because it is negative towards a player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride was down by a few goals but MDU received 4 yellow cards and were therefore a man down for the last half of the second half and Pride came back to tie it. Pride also lost to SW by 1 this weekend, however, SW had some out of state guest players (which I assume will continue for the rest of the summer) and were therefore much improved.

What do you mean SW had out of state guest players? SW has girls on their teams that are out of state, they are not "guests".

I thought yellow cards were apart of the game. Obviously, the officials can be all over the place, miss calls, and over call, but its part of the game. You can't tie a team and then blame the refs. Don't foul.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Live Love Lax seemed a little off this year. Every bracket had at least one team who didn't belong. The 28s may have gotten ticks from the knee high grass at Chesland, but at least they got to play on sunday. I can't believe they cancelled all of those games and the storms never really panned out.

I was at Calvert Regional 8am Sunday, the issue was, they played during the heavy downpours, and trashed the fields. If they canceled 8am-noon, they would have gotten the afternoon games in.

Fields were def unplayable, least the ones I saw. 8 meter was just mud as was the crease.

Fields 6-10 were definitely playable. Only issue was super thick grass that would sometimes bury a ground ball, but no reason to cancel gams.

NEMS is awful for recruiting purposes. Watch their 24 team have players that go to worse colleges than other less talented teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Live Love Lax seemed a little off this year. Every bracket had at least one team who didn't belong. The 28s may have gotten ticks from the knee high grass at Chesland, but at least they got to play on sunday. I can't believe they cancelled all of those games and the storms never really panned out.

I was at Calvert Regional 8am Sunday, the issue was, they played during the heavy downpours, and trashed the fields. If they canceled 8am-noon, they would have gotten the afternoon games in.

Fields were def unplayable, least the ones I saw. 8 meter was just mud as was the crease.

Fields 6-10 were definitely playable. Only issue was super thick grass that would sometimes bury a ground ball, but no reason to cancel gams.

I didn't see those, but saw Fields 1,2, and they were trashed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NEMS is awful for recruiting purposes. Watch their 24 team have players that go to worse colleges than other less talented teams.

Agree! Their players aren’t being recruited to top tier Div 1 schools. Their teams are average and their 28 and 29 team is awful. Although the 28 team does have a couple of A type players that will be leaving for other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride is as good as crush for players 4-20. Problem for them is Crush has 3 players head and shoulders better than anyone on Pride. If Pride could get the top 3 players on Next Level to join them next year, they could be a top 5 team.

Hey keyboard warrior, these are 11 and 12 year old girls. How about you stop with the anonymous posts?!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey keyboard warrior, these are 11 and 12 year old girls. How about you stop with the anonymous posts?!?

From anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride is as good as crush for players 4-20. Problem for them is Crush has 3 players head and shoulders better than anyone on Pride. If Pride could get the top 3 players on Next Level to join them next year, they could be a top 5 team.

Wishful thinking but won't happen. The top girls from Pride, Stars and Next Level would make a good team but it's all fantasy. Just won't happen. Several of these top players are already leaving for elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic pools are out

Purple
M&D
Coppermine
LIYJ Maget
Eagle Stix
CT grizzlies
Pride

Poor pride.

Looks like Pride had a decent showing at LLL. Tied MDU 8-8. Not saying they don't have an up hill battle in the above pool.

Pretty surprised at this. Sounds like MDU had an off day/game.

Pride played well on Sunday and kept it close. They don't have a super impactful player like MDU's #9, but spread it around pretty effectively. Pride kept it close with Hero's last game of NGLL. They also lost to FCA and Limelight. Weird team.

Pride is as good as crush for players 4-20. Problem for them is Crush has 3 players head and shoulders better than anyone on Pride. If Pride could get the top 3 players on Next Level to join them next year, they could be a top 5 team.

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Any who doesn't say SW hasn't been around MD lacrosse for a while. At worse, they will be the #5 team in MD next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Skywalkers then Coppermine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Any who doesn't say SW hasn't been around MD lacrosse for a while. At worse, they will be the #5 team in MD next year.

Supposedly SW is dropping the five 2029s on their 2028 squad back to their class next season, so they'll have a lot of turnover.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Any who doesn't say SW hasn't been around MD lacrosse for a while. At worse, they will be the #5 team in MD next year.

Where do you think they will come from? They were more than 5 players away from being a top 5 club and I don't see anyone leaving the top 4 to go there. I am not discounting their reputation, however They would have to get some big time additions to make that big of a jump.

If Skywalkers will be #5 next year I feel sorry for all those players that are currently on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Skywalkers then Coppermine

Don't you think clubs like coppermine and crush and MDU will alter the landscape that traditionally went to Skywalkers? I know they have a great HS reputation, but I think the 28s and lower are on a different trajectory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Skywalkers then Coppermine

M&D won NGLL for the region, don't you think girls will be heading their way?

Does anyone know why Coppermine is not playing in the Lax for the Cure tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guesses on who gain the most talent at tryouts in a couple of weeks?

Any who doesn't say SW hasn't been around MD lacrosse for a while. At worse, they will be the #5 team in MD next year.

Based on what exactly? Where are all these difference makers coming from for SW to take? If you look at the SW 27 team, same issue, they didn't improve much from 6th to 7th either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

Why NEMS-a middle of the pack B team. I can possibly see M&D or TLC absorbing some Crush players if they leave. However, I’m not so sure Crush will lose many players. But, NEMS can use all the help they can get…especially if it’s true their best players are looking elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

Why NEMS-a middle of the pack B team. I can possibly see M&D or TLC absorbing some Crush players if they leave. However, I’m not so sure Crush will lose many players. But, NEMS can use all the help they can get…especially if it’s true their best players are looking elsewhere.

Agree. Nems is worse than skywalkers. I don't see them gaining players over them. I can see crush staying together next year, but what about high school? They don't have a HS program right?

Why, they have 5 2029's on their team. It only takes a couple of key players in key spots to elevate a team. And it only takes a couple of key players leaving to destroy a team. My guess is within 2 years SW 2028 is a top tier team. Why wouldn't you want to be with a program that had 20 players in the NCAA final four this year and 8 players on UNC and these players come back and coach the kids? Seems like a no-brainer if I wanted my daughter to play at a top tier college.

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why, they have 5 2029's on their team. It only takes a couple of key players in key spots to elevate a team. And it only takes a couple of key players leaving to destroy a team. My guess is within 2 years SW 2028 is a top tier team. Why wouldn't you want to be with a program that had 20 players in the NCAA final four this year and 8 players on UNC and these players come back and coach the kids? Seems like a no-brainer if I wanted my daughter to play at a top tier college.

So if they have 5 29s on their team, that means 5 more spots to fill in addition to the spots needing to be filled with top players. There would have to be a significant swing in talent to make that happen. They are more than just a couple of key players away. I get the track record and not saying it won't happen, but if it does it will be with a different team than the current roster and I am not sure where that top talent will come from. No one is leaving m&d, or heros as they have their own success recruiting. So MDU, Crush and Coppermine???? Just seems like a big leap when they will be playing in the same top torunaments. I know the "it always happens that way" mentality, but new programs start to produce top talent and the pendulum swings.

Any truth to Skywalkers picking up out of state players? Seeing scores they already seem improved even before tryouts? Lost to MDU and YJ A team by 1 goal each game last weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to Skywalkers picking up out of state players? Seeing scores they already seem improved even before tryouts? Lost to MDU and YJ A team by 1 goal each game last weekend.

Skywalkers has always had a history of out of state players. Almost every team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any truth to Skywalkers picking up out of state players? Seeing scores they already seem improved even before tryouts? Lost to MDU and YJ A team by 1 goal each game last weekend.

They had to do something. They were 1-7 in ngll which was a month ago.

When we say "out of state" are we talking the next state over where there is still a 2 hr or less commute and they can attend regular practices? Or out of state meaning they just show up for tournaments. At this age, the later seems to be a recipe for disaster and bad team chemistry. I know it happens in HS but their only season is really just summer tournaments at that point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Deciding between? Has those clubs already offered her a spot on their teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Skywalkers would be the easiest to break into since they are lacking alot of talent. Crush is an unknown but could grow, all depends if their top middies stay. Coppermine will be tough unless you have elite speed and athletism with strong stick skills.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

Why NEMS-a middle of the pack B team. I can possibly see M&D or TLC absorbing some Crush players if they leave. However, I’m not so sure Crush will lose many players. But, NEMS can use all the help they can get…especially if it’s true their best players are looking elsewhere.

Agree. Nems is worse than skywalkers. I don't see them gaining players over them. I can see crush staying together next year, but what about high school? They don't have a HS program right?

Their best player is gonna be tempted to join a top team. Recruitment is already happening for 26 and 28 daughter. Others better start looking for a spot !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Deciding between? Has those clubs already offered her a spot on their teams?

If they did it would be a no brained. Coppermine! They wouldn’t offer a girl that would make them worse.
Sw needs any talent they can get
Crush will be replacing those looking to move now before being locked out in high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Deciding between? Has those clubs already offered her a spot on their teams?[/quote
It’s a decision between which team to tryout for as Coppermine and Skywalkers have tryouts the same day. However, should have a good feel for Coppermine after the Tucker tune up next week. Luckily Crush has them a week later and we are working on getting some practice time with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

This. Remember Coppermine will have lots of top players trying out for it. They have have 2 B team girls who should easily make black team as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Deciding between? Has those clubs already offered her a spot on their teams?[/quote
It’s a decision between which team to tryout for as Coppermine and Skywalkers have tryouts the same day. However, should have a good feel for Coppermine after the Tucker tune up next week. Luckily Crush has them a week later and we are working on getting some practice time with them.

Interested in seeing the turnout for the Tucker tune up. The Univ of Maryland camp is during the same dates as well as other camps. Why not consider Hero's or M&D as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

No girl on Nems will make m&d

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]More likely M&D (1-2 players), NEMS (2-3 players), Coppermine (1-2 players), Skywalkers (2-3 players), Soccer (1-2 players) and a bunch that stay (7-8 players). M&D and Coppermine just have less capacity.

My daughter is deciding between Skywalkers, Coppermine, and Crush. She will be attending the Tucker three day Try Out Prep next week. Using this as an opportunity for her to be seen.

Deciding between? Has those clubs already offered her a spot on their teams?[/quote
It’s a decision between which team to tryout for as Coppermine and Skywalkers have tryouts the same day. However, should have a good feel for Coppermine after the Tucker tune up next week. Luckily Crush has them a week later and we are working on getting some practice time with them.

Interested in seeing the turnout for the Tucker tune up. The Univ of Maryland camp is during the same dates as well as other camps. Why not consider Hero's or M&D as well?

Hoping the Tune Up is really an unofficial tryout opportunity. Hero's isn't doable due to commuting distance. We thought about M&D, but my daughter doesn't know any of the 28 players. She does know a few girls on the other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

Seems everyone is doing it all that week,

Used to be some sort of logic, top clubs first, then middle tier then bottom tier last.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

Seems everyone is doing it all that week,

Used to be some sort of logic, top clubs first, then middle tier then bottom tier last.

I definitely understand why they don't want players club shopping and want to lock up their rosters ASAP.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

This is a big issue, would be nice if clubs stopped doing this. It's a dis service to the girls and the families on all of this. I also see Hero's tryouts start on Sunday the night of some tournaments, which is even crazier. Some big conflicts though on tryouts with M&D and Coppermine starting the same day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush has exactly one player better than everyone on Pride.

That is more realistic. And after this summer, will those Crush players all be on Skywalkers now?

M&D or Nems.

Why NEMS-a middle of the pack B team. I can possibly see M&D or TLC absorbing some Crush players if they leave. However, I’m not so sure Crush will lose many players. But, NEMS can use all the help they can get…especially if it’s true their best players are looking elsewhere.

Agree. Nems is worse than skywalkers. I don't see them gaining players over them. I can see crush staying together next year, but what about high school? They don't have a HS program right?

Their best player is gonna be tempted to join a top team. Recruitment is already happening for 26 and 28 daughter. Others better start looking for a spot !

Crush is holding tryouts for 2026s so I don't think it's accurate that they don't plan to have a high school program. They just never have before because this 2026 class is their oldest class. Obviously, lots of unknowns there, but it isn't as though girls are going to be without a home come 9th grade if they want to stay at Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

This is a big issue, would be nice if clubs stopped doing this. It's a dis service to the girls and the families on all of this. I also see Hero's tryouts start on Sunday the night of some tournaments, which is even crazier. Some big conflicts though on tryouts with M&D and Coppermine starting the same day.

I guess this is by design. However, if you're interested in teams with conflicting tryouts, I do think it's possible to contact them ahead of time and ask to check out one of their practices. I know girls will be doing this for my daughter's team. This is a good way to get seen. I can't say that all clubs will allow you to consider this a tryout, but it might help if you can only attend some of their tryout dates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush just changed their tryouts to July 11 and 12...the same date as the other "big" programs. Making it really tough for girls to try out for multiple teams as most clubs require a yes/no with payment fairly quick after tryouts.

This is a big issue, would be nice if clubs stopped doing this. It's a dis service to the girls and the families on all of this. I also see Hero's tryouts start on Sunday the night of some tournaments, which is even crazier. Some big conflicts though on tryouts with M&D and Coppermine starting the same day.

I guess this is by design. However, if you're interested in teams with conflicting tryouts, I do think it's possible to contact them ahead of time and ask to check out one of their practices. I know girls will be doing this for my daughter's team. This is a good way to get seen. I can't say that all clubs will allow you to consider this a tryout, but it might help if you can only attend some of their tryout dates.

Yes, this is occurring and a good way to see what teams are a fit and not a fit etc. There are some clubs that are not allowing that, but they also don't have conflicts for tryouts with some of the top clubs.

Yes, this is occurring and a good way to see what teams are a fit and not a fit etc. There are some clubs that are not allowing that, but they also don't have conflicts for tryouts with some of the top clubs.[/quote]
For this reason I think it was smart for Coppermine to Have the Tucker Tune Up. What a great way to see new girls and evaluate their talent. I'm sure the stand out non Coppermine players will be approached some way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, this is occurring and a good way to see what teams are a fit and not a fit etc. There are some clubs that are not allowing that, but they also don't have conflicts for tryouts with some of the top clubs.

For this reason I think it was smart for Coppermine to Have the Tucker Tune Up. What a great way to see new girls and evaluate their talent. I'm sure the stand out non Coppermine players will be approached some way.[/quote]

It's a good idea and would like to know the turnout/numbers that attend. From what we have seen, you will need great stick skills and speed to get a slot on Coppermine. M&D seems to need the most help in this area (speed/athletes) of the "top 4" teams. Looks like with Crush moving tryouts to the same as others, only MDU is holding tryouts that don't conflict with the other 4 clubs.

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

No one is questioning their win/s and what they have done, they are a championship team. However, if you watched the Finals game, you would have noticed that Coppermine just ran out of time. The M&D middies were gassed and they were just holding the ball as best they could while Coppermine's speed took over. If you were to compare both great teams, M&D lacks some of the speed Coppermine has and Coppermine lacks some size M&D has etc. Both teams can get some quality additions to make both better this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

They’ll be looking for speed with good skill level (who isn’t?). Also guessing good defenders could find a home with them.

Good luck to all the teams participating in Lax for the Cure. Hope your girls play hard, have fun, and respect the game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

They’ll be looking for speed with good skill level (who isn’t?). Also guessing good defenders could find a home with them.

And who isn't looking for good defenders? Same logic applies. Every team out there has maybe 1-2 at best good defenders and can always improve in that area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

They’ll be looking for speed with good skill level (who isn’t?). Also guessing good defenders could find a home with them.

And who isn't looking for good defenders? Same logic applies. Every team out there has maybe 1-2 at best good defenders and can always improve in that area.

The girls are still young and have much to learn and develop, no position should be off the table. Take the best athletes with the best stick skills and teach them to play where your team needs them. Athletecism and stick skills > position specific knowledge at this stage of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

They’ll be looking for speed with good skill level (who isn’t?). Also guessing good defenders could find a home with them.

And who isn't looking for good defenders? Same logic applies. Every team out there has maybe 1-2 at best good defenders and can always improve in that area.

The girls are still young and have much to learn and develop, no position should be off the table. Take the best athletes with the best stick skills and teach them to play where your team needs them. Athletecism and stick skills > position specific knowledge at this stage of the game.

I agree with this 100-%. Find athletes with size. The best teams improve every offseason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good luck to all the teams participating in Lax for the Cure. Hope your girls play hard, have fun, and respect the game!

Need more of this positive vibe!

Pretty surprising to see Hero's beat M&D by 4 goals. Maybe M&D was without some players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty surprising to see Hero's beat M&D by 4 goals. Maybe M&D was without some players?

Pretty hard to win when you control 2 draws all day. Both teams are solid and m and d will beat hero’s again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty surprising to see Hero's beat M&D by 4 goals. Maybe M&D was without some players?

Pretty hard to win when you control 2 draws all day. Both teams are solid and m and d will beat hero’s again

Not sure what this person is talking about. M&D lost because they were probably like 2/12 on shots. Hero’s goalie had a great game and deserves a lot of credit for that win.

Congratulations to MD United for taking home the tourney championship! What a great weekend of lacrosse for a great cause. The highlight of the weekend was seeing the long line of girls waiting to meet Ally Mastroianni. Also, it was great to see Emma Ward on the sidelines coaching her former Club’s 28 team and then taking time to sign balls and take pictures with the girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems to me that M&D is doing just okay with their speed/athletes. From what I understand they have split the last couple games. From what I've seen, Coppermine is reliant on 1 player. If she doesn't play well, Coppermine doesn't play well. You could see that during the NGLL finals.

I don't think anyone can argue that they aren't doing okay based on their record and achievements. They are well coached with players with solid skills. However, if they add some speed and athletisism to their line up they can be even better. They should focus on speed for their summer pick ups to add to their already good team.

They’ll be looking for speed with good skill level (who isn’t?). Also guessing good defenders could find a home with them.

And who isn't looking for good defenders? Same logic applies. Every team out there has maybe 1-2 at best good defenders and can always improve in that area.

The girls are still young and have much to learn and develop, no position should be off the table. Take the best athletes with the best stick skills and teach them to play where your team needs them. Athletecism and stick skills > position specific knowledge at this stage of the game.

This.

Specialization in any position besides goalie and draw specialist before high school is ridiculous and inhibiting many girls development.

I ran into a friend at lax for the cure who had a 2030!daughter playing. She informed me that she was low attacker. Are you kidding me?

This is everything wrong with girls lacrosse.

Originally Posted by loyo29

Congratulations to MD United for taking home the tourney championship! What a great weekend of lacrosse for a great cause. The highlight of the weekend was seeing the long line of girls waiting to meet Ally Mastroianni. Also, it was great to see Emma Ward on the sidelines coaching her former Club’s 28 team and then taking time to sign balls and take pictures with the girls.

Yes, congratulations to MDU. They won in a nail-biting 3v3 Braveheart vs M&D. Good work to M&D for making it to the championship. Was also great to see Skywalkers beat an undefeated Monsters to make it to the last semi-final. There are a lot of really talented players and teams at the 2028 year. And now that they are a bit older and there's more parity at the top level, the games are so much more fun to watch because anyone can win. Should make for an exciting upcoming weekend in Hershey.

Wow - impressive by MDU, M&D, and Skywalkers in finals! Go Maryland!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by loyo29

Congratulations to MD United for taking home the tourney championship! What a great weekend of lacrosse for a great cause. The highlight of the weekend was seeing the long line of girls waiting to meet Ally Mastroianni. Also, it was great to see Emma Ward on the sidelines coaching her former Club’s 28 team and then taking time to sign balls and take pictures with the girls.

Yes, congratulations to MDU. They won in a nail-biting 3v3 Braveheart vs M&D. Good work to M&D for making it to the championship. Was also great to see Skywalkers beat an undefeated Monsters to make it to the last semi-final. There are a lot of really talented players and teams at the 2028 year. And now that they are a bit older and there's more parity at the top level, the games are so much more fun to watch because anyone can win. Should make for an exciting upcoming weekend in Hershey.

Monster had the easiest schedule by far avoiding all the MD teams in the top bracket aside from MDU (who beat them 10-5), so snuck into the bracket with a 3-1 record. I am most intrigued by the Steps White team (who obviously should not have been in the 4th bracket) beating Heros and losing to M&D in the semifinals 2-1. Any info on this team which I think is supposed the the Steps B team but seems pretty legit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by loyo29

Congratulations to MD United for taking home the tourney championship! What a great weekend of lacrosse for a great cause. The highlight of the weekend was seeing the long line of girls waiting to meet Ally Mastroianni. Also, it was great to see Emma Ward on the sidelines coaching her former Club’s 28 team and then taking time to sign balls and take pictures with the girls.

Yes, congratulations to MDU. They won in a nail-biting 3v3 Braveheart vs M&D. Good work to M&D for making it to the championship. Was also great to see Skywalkers beat an undefeated Monsters to make it to the last semi-final. There are a lot of really talented players and teams at the 2028 year. And now that they are a bit older and there's more parity at the top level, the games are so much more fun to watch because anyone can win. Should make for an exciting upcoming weekend in Hershey.

Monster had the easiest schedule by far avoiding all the MD teams in the top bracket aside from MDU (who beat them 10-5), so snuck into the bracket with a 3-1 record. I am most intrigued by the Steps White team (who obviously should not have been in the 4th bracket) beating Heros and losing to M&D in the semifinals 2-1. Any info on this team which I think is supposed the the Steps B team but seems pretty legit?

Interestingly, yesterday in real time they had it as Monsters beating MDU, putting Monsters in the top seed. This was definitely the case because people were scratching their heads over the result. Wonder if that impacted the playoff brackets - guess it probably wouldn't have changed the result too much. The Steps team was good. Apparently STEPS makes the brackets and always positions their teams in brackets where they will have an easy path to the playoffs.

You sound like a parent of a team that couldn’t even participate- maybe next year

Skywalkers has gotten a little better but not in same level as crush, mdu, Coppermine, m&d or hero’s

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are they "borrowing" from? Skywalkers is known to have out of state players on their teams. Why do you think they are "borrowing"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Skywalkers is better because it has better players. No team "owns" a player. The girls that play are the team and everyone on the team is a team member. Stop looking for excuses to explain a team's success or other teams' failures.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

LOL this is about the 6th time you’ve mentioned the “tucker tune up” in the last week.

Props to MDU and Hero's for bringing the Lax for Cure championships to MD 2028-2030.

I've always said MD is the center of lax, despite the talent in upstate NY and LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Any predictions for Hershey this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Just because they didn't play in the Spring, does not mean they are not on the team. Again, Skywalkers is known to have girls from out of state on almost every team. Why is this such an issue for you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Just because they didn't play in the Spring, does not mean they are not on the team. Again, Skywalkers is known to have girls from out of state on almost every team. Why is this such an issue for you?

Not the above poster, but I think what people were saying was the SW team that is playing this summer is better and people were wondering why. No one is saying they cheated or anything, but there are girls now playing that were not on the NGLL team (that was not very successful), so expect SW to be tougher in the summer. I don't think any of the top 5 MD teams added anyone after NGLL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Just because they didn't play in the Spring, does not mean they are not on the team. Again, Skywalkers is known to have girls from out of state on almost every team. Why is this such an issue for you?

SW has one out of state player and she lives in southern PA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

LOL this is about the 6th time you’ve mentioned the “tucker tune up” in the last week.

Sounds like you just made it a 7th time! Who cares, wish other clubs did this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Just because they didn't play in the Spring, does not mean they are not on the team. Again, Skywalkers is known to have girls from out of state on almost every team. Why is this such an issue for you?

Not the above poster, but I think what people were saying was the SW team that is playing this summer is better and people were wondering why. No one is saying they cheated or anything, but there are girls now playing that were not on the NGLL team (that was not very successful), so expect SW to be tougher in the summer. I don't think any of the top 5 MD teams added anyone after NGLL.

I think many people are happy to see SW succeed. The more good teams, the better. Seems like some team/clubs would like to see SW's younger teams fail so that they can inherit the good players/not loose the good players who historically would have gone to Skywalkers towards the end of middle school due to their good reputation for recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Yes, the players that don't get playing time should and will leave and look for a better fit. Some have already reached out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Fake news. Everyone who played is on SW's roster, which is public.

But where were they during the NGLL season?

Just because they didn't play in the Spring, does not mean they are not on the team. Again, Skywalkers is known to have girls from out of state on almost every team. Why is this such an issue for you?

Not the above poster, but I think what people were saying was the SW team that is playing this summer is better and people were wondering why. No one is saying they cheated or anything, but there are girls now playing that were not on the NGLL team (that was not very successful), so expect SW to be tougher in the summer. I don't think any of the top 5 MD teams added anyone after NGLL.

I think many people are happy to see SW succeed. The more good teams, the better. Seems like some team/clubs would like to see SW's younger teams fail so that they can inherit the good players/not loose the good players who historically would have gone to Skywalkers towards the end of middle school due to their good reputation for recruiting.

It has nothing to do with not wanting a team succeed. The more competitive teams the better. It helps everyone by upping the level of play. The questioning of out if state players comes from a place of curiosity, not spite. It just seems like an odd formula for success for a middle school team. The girls still play uear round together at this age (unlike HS when they only really have summer and falll tournaments) and this seems counter productive to team chemistry. Also not a huge selling point to attract new local talent

SW is always adding players particularly on their high school teams. And, they historically have players from out of town who play only on their summer teams because of school obligations. SW's goal is to get their players recruited not win tournaments in middle school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Probably right on Crush players but i'll take that bet on Coppermine. Why would they leave? They will only keep getting better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Probably right on Crush players but i'll take that bet on Coppermine. Why would they leave? They will only keep getting better.

Because for some of them it will eventually become more about getting connected with college programs than winning t-shirts. Maybe not this young, but eventually.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Probably right on Crush players but i'll take that bet on Coppermine. Why would they leave? They will only keep getting better.

Because for some of them it will eventually become more about getting connected with college programs than winning t-shirts. Maybe not this young, but eventually.

I think you are incorrect on that. If they stay the top team in the country, they will be in the top tournaments and be seen by the top coaches. No need to ruin a top team to take a chance on a lesser team somewhere else. Things change, new clubs can enter the scene.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skywalkers are better because they have borrowed players for the summer tournaments only. This means their regular players, who pays the yearly fee, gets less playing time. Starters are suddenly not starters.

Where are the borrowed players from? Curious to hear/see how many current Skywalkers/Crush players attend the Tucker tune up in prep to tryout for Coppermine soon.

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Probably right on Crush players but i'll take that bet on Coppermine. Why would they leave? They will only keep getting better.

Because for some of them it will eventually become more about getting connected with college programs than winning t-shirts. Maybe not this young, but eventually.

I think you are incorrect on that. If they stay the top team in the country, they will be in the top tournaments and be seen by the top coaches. No need to ruin a top team to take a chance on a lesser team somewhere else. Things change, new clubs can enter the scene.

I think more kids will leave after 7th grade than after 6th and many will go to M&D and Heros rather than SW.

But at some point, recruiting reputation, connections to big showcases and getting into top tourneys will make a difference.

The problem Coppermine has is that their 24 and 25 teams are average at best and won't have good recruiting results. This will make it hard to keep their top players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

I guarantee you more Coppermine and Crush players go to SW than the other way around.

Probably right on Crush players but i'll take that bet on Coppermine. Why would they leave? They will only keep getting better.

Because for some of them it will eventually become more about getting connected with college programs than winning t-shirts. Maybe not this young, but eventually.

I think you are incorrect on that. If they stay the top team in the country, they will be in the top tournaments and be seen by the top coaches. No need to ruin a top team to take a chance on a lesser team somewhere else. Things change, new clubs can enter the scene.

I think more kids will leave after 7th grade than after 6th and many will go to M&D and Heros rather than SW.

But at some point, recruiting reputation, connections to big showcases and getting into top tourneys will make a difference.

The problem Coppermine has is that their 24 and 25 teams are average at best and won't have good recruiting results. This will make it hard to keep their top players.

Being seen is one very important piece of the puzzle. And of course you can get recruited from any team if you’re good enough and do the work throughout the process. But connections and club reputation help. If you’re a top player who has your options open, do you stay on a team because they’re winning or leave for another team (that will also win) where the path may be easier? The decision will be different for every player, but to assume a player will stay just because the team is good is ignoring the bigger picture of what this is (or will be) about for some girls.

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Everything you hear about Skywalkers is true. They will continue to attract talent, spending time on all the skills for all the players will become a benefit instead of a liability, they will continue to get better, and will be highly recruited when it matters. Are they going to win this weekend? Probably not but they are better and will be even better next year. They may be too good when you realize your daughter should have tried out a year earlier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by loyo29

Congratulations to MD United for taking home the tourney championship! What a great weekend of lacrosse for a great cause. The highlight of the weekend was seeing the long line of girls waiting to meet Ally Mastroianni. Also, it was great to see Emma Ward on the sidelines coaching her former Club’s 28 team and then taking time to sign balls and take pictures with the girls.

Yes, congratulations to MDU. They won in a nail-biting 3v3 Braveheart vs M&D. Good work to M&D for making it to the championship. Was also great to see Skywalkers beat an undefeated Monsters to make it to the last semi-final. There are a lot of really talented players and teams at the 2028 year. And now that they are a bit older and there's more parity at the top level, the games are so much more fun to watch because anyone can win. Should make for an exciting upcoming weekend in Hershey.

Monster had the easiest schedule by far avoiding all the MD teams in the top bracket aside from MDU (who beat them 10-5), so snuck into the bracket with a 3-1 record. I am most intrigued by the Steps White team (who obviously should not have been in the 4th bracket) beating Heros and losing to M&D in the semifinals 2-1. Any info on this team which I think is supposed the the Steps B team but seems pretty legit?

Interestingly, yesterday in real time they had it as Monsters beating MDU, putting Monsters in the top seed. This was definitely the case because people were scratching their heads over the result. Wonder if that impacted the playoff brackets - guess it probably wouldn't have changed the result too much. The Steps team was good. Apparently STEPS makes the brackets and always positions their teams in brackets where they will have an easy path to the playoffs.

The app was incorrect for awhile and it kept changing but only to make it more incorrect. At one point they had the same team in the semi-final but also playing in a different bracket at the same time. MDU went undefeated all weekend and did beat Monster 10-5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything you hear about Skywalkers is true. They will continue to attract talent, spending time on all the skills for all the players will become a benefit instead of a liability, they will continue to get better, and will be highly recruited when it matters. Are they going to win this weekend? Probably not but they are better and will be even better next year. They may be too good when you realize your daughter should have tried out a year earlier.

Hopefully we can keep this forum from being shut down because I would like to see how this comment ages. I don't disagree that the formula has been there in the past, I am just interested to see if it continues with the success that MDU and Coppermine are having

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everything you hear about Skywalkers is true. They will continue to attract talent, spending time on all the skills for all the players will become a benefit instead of a liability, they will continue to get better, and will be highly recruited when it matters. Are they going to win this weekend? Probably not but they are better and will be even better next year. They may be too good when you realize your daughter should have tried out a year earlier.

Curious what team you are referring too and if you are speaking with first hand knowledge or as a 3rd party? Might help our family make the decision on which teams to tryout for this year and which to avoid.

College coaches recruit good players. They actually watch teams with losing records and who don’t win tourney tshirts every weekend. They definitely don’t watch girls sitting in the bench on premier teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP here: Does it really happen that much in this age group. I can certainly see it in older age group but 14 girls can't really play several games in a row without subbing. They don't have that stamina yet. I understand the mentality of playing to win and I'm okay with that. But 14 girls? How about 16-18 in each game and with the your truly 6-8 top girls staying in and the rest can be on the field with playing time according to their ability?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

OP here. Policy is that you have to earn your playing time which I don't have a problem with. I am just wondering at this age group, is there truly 14 kids in any club who stand out so much better than the rest of the group and that they can play several games in a row without subbing. Even in college games, they play one game a day and they sub more than 2 people in a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP here: Does it really happen that much in this age group. I can certainly see it in older age group but 14 girls can't really play several games in a row without subbing. They don't have that stamina yet. I understand the mentality of playing to win and I'm okay with that. But 14 girls? How about 16-18 in each game and with the your truly 6-8 top girls staying in and the rest can be on the field with playing time according to their ability?

Not playing your bench much when I counts certainly happens, but this specific scenario seems very odd. Not even subbing midis in back-to-back summer games? Has anyone asked what was up? Were they in contention for a tournament playoff? Only thing I can think was they were trying to keep goals allowed low/goals scored high in the event they needed it as a tie breaker and they thought they needed that specific crew to do it. Otherwise why not sub your bench in games against easier teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

OP here. Policy is that you have to earn your playing time which I don't have a problem with. I am just wondering at this age group, is there truly 14 kids in any club who stand out so much better than the rest of the group and that they can play several games in a row without subbing. Even in college games, they play one game a day and they sub more than 2 people in a game.

Not exactly the same situation, but my DD team is a low level A/high B team and their best players never come out in any game. That is more about the necessity for them to stay in due to 2 issues. Lack of subs and lack of quality subs. It's unfortunate as you mention, the top players all get tired and don't play as well when tired etc. It's not the fact that good players are sitting on the bench and the coach just won't play them, it's the fact that the top players have to stay on the field for any remote chance of winning or being competitive. The limited subs is an issue. If your case is where only 14 players play and there's a good set of subs, that doesn't seem right. I think in most cases where limited players play, its usually due to lack of subs and lack of quality subs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP here: Does it really happen that much in this age group. I can certainly see it in older age group but 14 girls can't really play several games in a row without subbing. They don't have that stamina yet. I understand the mentality of playing to win and I'm okay with that. But 14 girls? How about 16-18 in each game and with the your truly 6-8 top girls staying in and the rest can be on the field with playing time according to their ability?

Not playing your bench much when I counts certainly happens, but this specific scenario seems very odd. Not even subbing midis in back-to-back summer games? Has anyone asked what was up? Were they in contention for a tournament playoff? Only thing I can think was they were trying to keep goals allowed low/goals scored high in the event they needed it as a tie breaker and they thought they needed that specific crew to do it. Otherwise why not sub your bench in games against easier teams?

SW doesn’t really care about wins/losses until going into 8th grade. They tend to focus on fundamentals and getting everyone to a certain level of competency and get them game experience.

As they get older, the bench gets shorter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

OP here. Policy is that you have to earn your playing time which I don't have a problem with. I am just wondering at this age group, is there truly 14 kids in any club who stand out so much better than the rest of the group and that they can play several games in a row without subbing. Even in college games, they play one game a day and they sub more than 2 people in a game.

Cant really compare college level play to 6th grade level play. Games are a lot shorter with a running game clock. With 22 minutes halves most are only getting in about 15 minutes of actual game play (depending on how many goals are scored and how quick the refs are to set up the next draw). If the starting middies are running the whole game I can see that as a possible issue, but most teams have two reliable midfield lines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

I think this is the right answer. It is a cowardly way for a coach/club to let a family know that it is time to move on. There are many other places to play 6th grade lacrosse and I am sure these girls can find a place easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

ABSOLUTELY!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

Exactly! Integrity is an example of this- their 26 team took 5 girls after summer tryouts going into NGLL w 27 on the roster. So important going into tryouts to ask what their policy is, AFTER tryouts are done/over the winter. Hearing that made me rethink our plans for tryouts in AA county. Playing time is so important moving into MS, then HS years. Our girls won’t grow as players if they don’t have game experience. More time on lower A teams is so much more important than never seeing the field on some teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

^This

Middle school club should be about development first and winning second. No college coach is looking at anyone younger than 2024 (maybe 2025 if you’re all world) so getting kids game experience and meaningful reps is the right move.

Honestly, parents care more about wins than the kids

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?[/quote]

^This

Middle school club should be about development first and winning second. No college coach is looking at anyone younger than 2024 (maybe 2025 if you’re all world) so getting kids game experience and meaningful reps is the right move.

Honestly, parents care more about wins than the kids[/quote]
I thinks its important to strike a balance between the two. Player development and winning are equally important to a players self esteem and confidence. Lets be honest, no one likes to lose...that's why we compete against each other. Its up to each clubs director and/or coach to make sure they are playing teams equal to them and also placed in proper tournament brackets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

^This

Middle school club should be about development first and winning second. No college coach is looking at anyone younger than 2024 (maybe 2025 if you’re all world) so getting kids game experience and meaningful reps is the right move.

Honestly, parents care more about wins than the kids[/quote]
I thinks its important to strike a balance between the two. Player development and winning are equally important to a players self esteem and confidence. Lets be honest, no one likes to lose...that's why we compete against each other. Its up to each clubs director and/or coach to make sure they are playing teams equal to them and also placed in proper tournament brackets.[/quote]

Agree on this. No one likes losing and what's the point of playing if you just go out and get blown out every game etc? The point about playing time and development is key. However when the lower A teams don't have strong rosters, player development is somewhat limited as the top players aren't playing with better players to make them better. Playing all game but with limited talent around them does not promote growth or player development. That's why alot of top players leave lesser teams/clubs for the top teams to continue their growth.

If your kid didn't play in any games at a tournament, that's certainly a question that must be addressed with the coaches.
Were games tight? or blowouts? Has this happened before? Was there an off the field issue?
What does she need to do to get on the field, but at this stage, make other arrangements for club next season.

Excellent club options for a late bloomer player in middle school seeking development, game experience and excellent coaching are the B teams of M&D, Heroes and SW (colleges are recruiting from these teams later in high school as well - low D1, D2 and D3).

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

PT can an issue caused by us parents too. We let our egos prevent us from playing our kids on the correct team and feel our kids must play on the best teams when they aren’t playing at that level. I was guilty of this and since moving my child to a different team that plays accordingly to her level of play she is much happier and seeing more PT & responsibilities. Wish my ego would have allowed this sooner. After all it’s our children’s turn to play the game and find what makes them happy. Hopefully this helps others facing this same issue we had in the past. Maybe she is a later developer and advances but if not she’ll be happy in the present moment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

M&D has been trying to have a Red team for the last couple of years but there has never been enough players at tryouts to make a second team. Will be interesting to see if they are able to form a competitive second team this year. I can't imagine any players from the top teams would be willing to accept a spot on Red. Maybe a few players that currently don't get playing time hoping that some day they can make it on Black. More than likely they are using it as a landing spot for some of their current Black roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

They have tried before in the past two. all depends on numbers at try-outs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

I believe most clubs state that playing time isn't guaranteed. It's based off many factors; including lacrosse skill and practice attendance/intensity. This is Club lacrosse, not rec lacrosse. A lot of girls getting the playing time put in extra training outside of scheduled practice. Unfortunately, some clubs accept players for financial support rather than lacrosse skill.

I know equal playing time is not guaranteed, nor should it be because like you said it is club and not rec. However, I don't think at this age there should be an entire tournament that goes by where kids never see the field. If a kid is that bad that being on the field for even a shoet amount of time can cause you to lose multiple games, then why are they on the team?

Exactly! Integrity is an example of this- their 26 team took 5 girls after summer tryouts going into NGLL w 27 on the roster. So important going into tryouts to ask what their policy is, AFTER tryouts are done/over the winter. Hearing that made me rethink our plans for tryouts in AA county. Playing time is so important moving into MS, then HS years. Our girls won’t grow as players if they don’t have game experience. More time on lower A teams is so much more important than never seeing the field on some teams.

This is why you see girls from Mid tier A teams who don’t play go to places like TLC / c2, they get more playing time and can compete against top talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

They have tried before in the past two. all depends on numbers at try-outs

This isn't entirely accurate. The year before COVID they put together a 27/28 combo team because there was enough interest at tryouts. Since then, they've never put any effort towards putting together a red team by proactively identifying coaches, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to get some perspectives. Is it off that a coach only play 14 kids out of a full roster? Not just one game but multiple consecutive games? Not championship game and not top 20 teams. Even the kids on the field complained that they can't run anymore. Many if not most of the benched kids were not weaker players than many kids who played a full game, may be weaker than the best player on team but not compared to the 14th kid. To make this worse, both kids and parents were blind-sided.

Is it right? No. Does it happen too much? without a doubt. The girls who aren't playing are pretty much subsidizing those you are.

OP? Does your club have a policy about playing time? It might be something you should ask about prior to tryouts.

OP here. Policy is that you have to earn your playing time which I don't have a problem with. I am just wondering at this age group, is there truly 14 kids in any club who stand out so much better than the rest of the group and that they can play several games in a row without subbing. Even in college games, they play one game a day and they sub more than 2 people in a game.

Cant really compare college level play to 6th grade level play. Games are a lot shorter with a running game clock. With 22 minutes halves most are only getting in about 15 minutes of actual game play (depending on how many goals are scored and how quick the refs are to set up the next draw). If the starting middies are running the whole game I can see that as a possible issue, but most teams have two reliable midfield lines.

I don't agree that most teams at this level have 2 strong middie lines. Most top teams will play their starting middies 60-75% of the time and when they go out they will usually bring in a couple other starters (usually defenders) to play middie and bring subs on in defesnse/attack.

Not sure I can name a top MD team who ever makes a 3 for 3 middie sub in a big game.

But to the OP's point. All girls should be getting some PT (ideally in different positons but thats another post) in all tourneys for the sake of development.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PT can an issue caused by us parents too. We let our egos prevent us from playing our kids on the correct team and feel our kids must play on the best teams when they aren’t playing at that level. I was guilty of this and since moving my child to a different team that plays accordingly to her level of play she is much happier and seeing more PT & responsibilities. Wish my ego would have allowed this sooner. After all it’s our children’s turn to play the game and find what makes them happy. Hopefully this helps others facing this same issue we had in the past. Maybe she is a later developer and advances but if not she’ll be happy in the present moment.

This is a good realization and I think a good message and lesson learned for other parents to see and realize. I do agree that a lot of parents are unrealistic where their kid can play etc. Takes a lot to admit this though and a good message.

One honest question, when you all went to tryouts, was there any indication then that PT would be limited based on the level of other players etc? Just curious to how long it took to realize or recognize the move was needed or not seen during the original team's tryouts etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PT can an issue caused by us parents too. We let our egos prevent us from playing our kids on the correct team and feel our kids must play on the best teams when they aren’t playing at that level. I was guilty of this and since moving my child to a different team that plays accordingly to her level of play she is much happier and seeing more PT & responsibilities. Wish my ego would have allowed this sooner. After all it’s our children’s turn to play the game and find what makes them happy. Hopefully this helps others facing this same issue we had in the past. Maybe she is a later developer and advances but if not she’ll be happy in the present moment.

This is a good realization and I think a good message and lesson learned for other parents to see and realize. I do agree that a lot of parents are unrealistic where their kid can play etc. Takes a lot to admit this though and a good message.

One honest question, when you all went to tryouts, was there any indication then that PT would be limited based on the level of other players etc? Just curious to how long it took to realize or recognize the move was needed or not seen during the original team's tryouts etc.

I agree that parents are sometimes overzealous in guiding their children. I am not blaming them because I don't think their actions are malicious and they are doing what thay think is best for their child. The only point I would add to the comment I am quoting is that parents should involve their children in making the decision. I in no way think the conversation should include comments like "you aren't good enough or as good as other children". I think the conversation should be primarily about whether they want to play for a team where they will have more or less playing time. They probably will choose playing on the team where they have the best/most friends anyway. It is not surprising that it is us adults that focus more on winning/losing, level of play/competition, college options, etc. Most children care more about having fun and being with friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

They have tried before in the past two. all depends on numbers at try-outs

Have they hired coaches in the past? They have two coaches on board for the anticipated Red team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PT can an issue caused by us parents too. We let our egos prevent us from playing our kids on the correct team and feel our kids must play on the best teams when they aren’t playing at that level. I was guilty of this and since moving my child to a different team that plays accordingly to her level of play she is much happier and seeing more PT & responsibilities. Wish my ego would have allowed this sooner. After all it’s our children’s turn to play the game and find what makes them happy. Hopefully this helps others facing this same issue we had in the past. Maybe she is a later developer and advances but if not she’ll be happy in the present moment.

This is a good realization and I think a good message and lesson learned for other parents to see and realize. I do agree that a lot of parents are unrealistic where their kid can play etc. Takes a lot to admit this though and a good message.

One honest question, when you all went to tryouts, was there any indication then that PT would be limited based on the level of other players etc? Just curious to how long it took to realize or recognize the move was needed or not seen during the original team's tryouts etc.

I agree that parents are sometimes overzealous in guiding their children. I am not blaming them because I don't think their actions are malicious and they are doing what thay think is best for their child. The only point I would add to the comment I am quoting is that parents should involve their children in making the decision. I in no way think the conversation should include comments like "you aren't good enough or as good as other children". I think the conversation should be primarily about whether they want to play for a team where they will have more or less playing time. They probably will choose playing on the team where they have the best/most friends anyway. It is not surprising that it is us adults that focus more on winning/losing, level of play/competition, college options, etc. Most children care more about having fun and being with friends.

These are all excellent points along with many other comments and thank you. I critically evaluated my child and honestly can say that there are 6-8 kids on the team who deserve more playing time than she is. But what we are struggling with is that the coach chose to play 14 kids and very clearly some of #9-14 are only marginally better and some are not better than the ~10 kids that was benched for several games. At least some of the benched kids could play 30% of the time. It makes no sense from coaching perspective and even if you win the several games, the best players can't even run anymore then you can't win in the semi or championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

They have tried before in the past two. all depends on numbers at try-outs

Have they hired coaches in the past? They have two coaches on board for the anticipated Red team.

No.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

They have tried before in the past two. all depends on numbers at try-outs

Have they hired coaches in the past? They have two coaches on board for the anticipated Red team.

No.

Since they already hired coaches, I guess they already have a big commitment for tryouts. I wonder who is leaving Crush, Coppermine, etc for greener pastures

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just received a notice that M&D will be having a Red Team for the 22/23 season. Another option for the girls out there.

M&D has been trying to have a Red team for the last couple of years but there has never been enough players at tryouts to make a second team. Will be interesting to see if they are able to form a competitive second team this year. I can't imagine any players from the top teams would be willing to accept a spot on Red. Maybe a few players that currently don't get playing time hoping that some day they can make it on Black. More than likely they are using it as a landing spot for some of their current Black roster.

If it does end up being a landing spot for some of their current black roster, that will be a decent start to a solid second team. There's no reason why M&D couldn't field a B team that will grow to be competitive.

So you think current Coppermine or Crush players would leave those teams for a spot on the Red team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So you think current Coppermine or Crush players would leave those teams for a spot on the Red team?

Starters, or people with consistent playing time definitely not. But someone who feels they aren't developing because they aren't getting the reps on the field may at least check it out and see what the talent level will look like. At this age playing time is a big factor for development. They need those reps and game situations to grow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent club options for a late bloomer player in middle school seeking development, game experience and excellent coaching are the B teams of M&D, Heroes and SW (colleges are recruiting from these teams later in high school as well - low D1, D2 and D3).

So our other clubs, not just those teams. Comical.

Looking at history M&D red is made up of three types of players

1) Girls who get cut from M&D Black prior year
2) Good not great players from mid-tier A clubs looking for a better schedule (eg. HoCo, TLC)
3) Stars from B clubs looking to get into better club (ex CC Lax, MC Elite, Check Hers)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking at history M&D red is made up of three types of players

1) Girls who get cut from M&D Black prior year
2) Good not great players from mid-tier A clubs looking for a better schedule (eg. HoCo, TLC)
3) Stars from B clubs looking to get into better club (ex CC Lax, MC Elite, Check Hers)

Not sure I'd agree with 2. # 1 for sure, definitely will be some roster turnover, i.e moving down from black to red

For the players looking for better schedules, HoCo black plays in NGLL A and I can't imagine Red would play in higher brackets in tourneys than HoCo? Would seem odd to go from an A team to a B team.

For # 3, I think that is a very small pool. I don't think there are many stars/top players currently on B clubs that would want to go to the Red team. Those stars would want to go to the Black team to improve their club. Not sure many top players would want to do that.

Congratulations to Coppermine 2028 Black for winning the Genesis Origins tournament! Great job against some very good teams.

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Why the bitterness? If Coppermine welcomed the girl to its team and the girl wanted to play for Coppermine, what's the beef? It seems to me that everyone involved benefited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Haters gonna detest! Jealous much? Let me guess Coppermine just beat you in this weekend tourney, so you take to BOC and hide behind the internet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Right—it’s ok for SW to add players, but not ok for Coppermine.

Sounds like someone is bitter…why not just try out for Coppermine so you don’t feel left out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Right—it’s ok for SW to add players, but not ok for Coppermine.

Sounds like someone is bitter…why not just try out for Coppermine so you don’t feel left out?

Y’all get a double asterisks for that win**

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Haha looks like crush parents back on BOTC.

Geez, these comments have a burnt tangerine smell to them…

it's always something with this crowd...Coppermine never just wins because they're a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Why the bitterness? If Coppermine welcomed the girl to its team and the girl wanted to play for Coppermine, what's the beef? It seems to me that everyone involved benefited.

Probably not a benefit to the girl’s former team, the girls already on Coppermine and their parents who paid a lot of money for the season and don’t expect players to be added during tournaments with no warning, and the girls signed up for tryout for the team in 2 weeks.

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Did Coppermine* beat M&D or Heros to win the ‘ship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Why the bitterness? If Coppermine welcomed the girl to its team and the girl wanted to play for Coppermine, what's the beef? It seems to me that everyone involved benefited.

Probably not a benefit to the girl’s former team, the girls already on Coppermine and their parents who paid a lot of money for the season and don’t expect players to be added during tournaments with no warning, and the girls signed up for tryout for the team in 2 weeks.

How do you know what the Coppermine parents want? Do you have a daughter who plays for Coppermine? Frankly all I saw from the Coppermine parents was extreme happiness over winning the tournament.

Also, I think parents are sadly mistaken if they think they make decisions about who is accepted on a team, when they are accepted, who plays, etc. Those roles and others fall under the leaders of the programs to which the parents chose for their daughters.

As far as the girl’s former team - I guess I am having a difficult time accepting that the girl is its indentured servant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Why the bitterness? If Coppermine welcomed the girl to its team and the girl wanted to play for Coppermine, what's the beef? It seems to me that everyone involved benefited.

Probably not a benefit to the girl’s former team, the girls already on Coppermine and their parents who paid a lot of money for the season and don’t expect players to be added during tournaments with no warning, and the girls signed up for tryout for the team in 2 weeks.

How do you know what the Coppermine parents want? Do you have a daughter who plays for Coppermine? Frankly all I saw from the Coppermine parents was extreme happiness over winning the tournament.

Also, I think parents are sadly mistaken if they think they make decisions about who is accepted on a team, when they are accepted, who plays, etc. Those roles and others fall under the leaders of the programs to which the parents chose for their daughters.

As far as the girl’s former team - I guess I am having a difficult time accepting that the girl is its indentured servant.

What team did the new player come from? Did that team have a tournament this weekend as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Did Coppermine* beat M&D or Heros to win the ‘ship?

You can see on Tourney Machine who they played. Beat: EagleStix 6-5
Aces 9-5
Legacy LI 16-2
Top Guns 12-2
In playoffs beat:
Philly Blast 6-2
Crush 8-3

Notably, Coppermine’s B team also did well. Going undefeated in regular play and losing in the semis to AIM, who won that division. Beat:
Top Guns 8-7
Yellow Jackets 15-1
Philly Blast 12-5
REV 14-5
In playoffs lost:
AIM 7-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Did Coppermine* beat M&D or Heros to win the ‘ship?

You can see on Tourney Machine who they played. Beat: EagleStix 6-5
Aces 9-5
Legacy LI 16-2
Top Guns 12-2
In playoffs beat:
Philly Blast 6-2
Crush 8-3

Hats off to Coppermine on winning the 2028 Summer Genesis Tournament... There is no doubt about it Coppermine is the best 2028 team.
Would also like to give props to two other MD teams Crush (lost to Coppermine in the Final) and MDU. All represented MD Lax very well going undefeated against NY, PA and Georgia teams

Notably, Coppermine’s B team also did well. Going undefeated in regular play and losing in the semis to AIM, who won that division. Beat:
Top Guns 8-7
Yellow Jackets 15-1
Philly Blast 12-5
REV 14-5
In playoffs lost:
AIM 7-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Haha looks like crush parents back on BOTC.

Was this player a guest for the torunament, or added to the team for next season? What team was she from?

I know this is a MD forum but curious what happened to Eagle Stix? They went 1-2-1 at Summer Genesis this weekend. Were they without key players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

What makes you think they are losing their top players? They are one of the best teams in the nation with a really good coach. Seems to me players would want go to this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is a MD forum but curious what happened to Eagle Stix? They went 1-2-1 at Summer Genesis this weekend. Were they without key players?

Hats off to Coppermine on winning the 2028 Summer Genesis Tournament... There is no doubt about it Coppermine is the best 2028 team.
Would also like to give props to two other MD teams Crush (lost to Coppermine in the Final) and MDU. All represented MD Lax very well going undefeated against NY, PA and Georgia teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

What makes you think they are losing their top players? They are one of the best teams in the nation with a really good coach. Seems to me players would want go to this team.

I think they mean that the team this new Coppermine girl left is losing a top player. Yes, other top players will try out there too I am sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

What club did they get a midfielder from? A pretty good guarantee that the girl who got benched as a result won't be back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is a MD forum but curious what happened to Eagle Stix? They went 1-2-1 at Summer Genesis this weekend. Were they without key players?

Hats off to Coppermine on winning the 2028 Summer Genesis Tournament... There is no doubt about it Coppermine is the best 2028 team.
Would also like to give props to two other MD teams Crush (lost to Coppermine in the Final) and MDU. All represented MD Lax very well going undefeated against NY, PA and Georgia teams

Exactly! Was really impressed with Crush against Eagle Stix. Didn't get an opportunity to see MD United. But, it's really great to see the MD teams do well against out of state competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Did Coppermine* beat M&D or Heros to win the ‘ship?

You can see on Tourney Machine who they played. Beat: EagleStix 6-5
Aces 9-5
Legacy LI 16-2
Top Guns 12-2
In playoffs beat:
Philly Blast 6-2
Crush 8-3

Notably, Coppermine’s B team also did well. Going undefeated in regular play and losing in the semis to AIM, who won that division. Beat:
Top Guns 8-7
Yellow Jackets 15-1
Philly Blast 12-5
REV 14-5
In playoffs lost:
AIM 7-4

I think the most interesting part of the summer will be where the Coppermine B team girls play next year. They have 3 or 4 girls who could play on most high level A teams and another 2 or 3 that could play on middle of the pack A teams. Can't see them staying with their current team if they are serious about lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

I understand the vitriol here and can appreciate it to some extent, but if you think Coppermine is the only team where this happened, you are either crazy or naive.

Over the past 2-3 weeks, most top A teams have had girls from other clubs "work in" at practice. Sometimes they will let girls guest play in a tourney or tow as an extended tryout. This weekend made a ton of sense because it conflicted with a major soccer tourney and resulted in a smaller roster size for many teams.

The only way I would have a problem with this is if the guest player's team was also scheduled to play in this tourney. One I think its morally wrong. Two, if this girls was registered with her own teams roster and played for Coppermine, then she was in eligible and Coppermine (or any team that used a girl registered for a different club) should have to forfeit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

What makes you think they are losing their top players? They are one of the best teams in the nation with a really good coach. Seems to me players would want go to this team.

I think they mean that the team this new Coppermine girl left is losing a top player. Yes, other top players will try out there too I am sure.

Though they were referring to the team Coppermine beat in the finals. It will be interesting to see where the top players from other clubs end up. I know one team has already secured a top player from a lower level team. Should be an impact player right away and may participate in the Mid-Atlantic in a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

As a crush parent i am embarrassed and apologize for this post. We knew about the new player before the game and I noticed and respected that coppermine did not start her in the game. Parents sideline was really only vocal when cheering when they scored. I can say our coach has had better days and could have chosen different language during the game. Was it a tough loss yes, did my daughter take it rough yes, but coppermine is a great team and is getting targeted unfairly by someone on our team which I am sorry for. Crush did great and I am proud of my daughter and the team. I hope these comments do not deter others from exploring crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

I understand the vitriol here and can appreciate it to some extent, but if you think Coppermine is the only team where this happened, you are either crazy or naive.

Over the past 2-3 weeks, most top A teams have had girls from other clubs "work in" at practice. Sometimes they will let girls guest play in a tourney or tow as an extended tryout. This weekend made a ton of sense because it conflicted with a major soccer tourney and resulted in a smaller roster size for many teams.

The only way I would have a problem with this is if the guest player's team was also scheduled to play in this tourney. One I think its morally wrong. Two, if this girls was registered with her own teams roster and played for Coppermine, then she was in eligible and Coppermine (or any team that used a girl registered for a different club) should have to forfeit.

Great points.. As brought up in previous threads, coppermine does have some soccer players on the team and also that team lost one of their best players to a torn ACL from what my daughter said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

As a crush parent i am embarrassed and apologize for this post. We knew about the new player before the game and I noticed and respected that coppermine did not start her in the game. Parents sideline was really only vocal when cheering when they scored. I can say our coach has had better days and could have chosen different language during the game. Was it a tough loss yes, did my daughter take it rough yes, but coppermine is a great team and is getting targeted unfairly by someone on our team which I am sorry for. Crush did great and I am proud of my daughter and the team. I hope these comments do not deter others from exploring crush.

No reason to necessarily assume this is a Crush parent. Girl was on Coppermine and tournament organizers SM. Could be anyone who’s paying enough attention.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

As a crush parent i am embarrassed and apologize for this post. We knew about the new player before the game and I noticed and respected that coppermine did not start her in the game. Parents sideline was really only vocal when cheering when they scored. I can say our coach has had better days and could have chosen different language during the game. Was it a tough loss yes, did my daughter take it rough yes, but coppermine is a great team and is getting targeted unfairly by someone on our team which I am sorry for. Crush did great and I am proud of my daughter and the team. I hope these comments do not deter others from exploring crush.

No reason to necessarily assume this is a Crush parent. Girl was on Coppermine and tournament organizers SM. Could be anyone who’s paying enough attention.

Ok crush parent.. the post was minutes after game!! Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is a MD forum but curious what happened to Eagle Stix? They went 1-2-1 at Summer Genesis this weekend. Were they without key players?

Eagle Stix lost 6-5 to Coppermine, tied MD United and lost to Crush 8-6. They are a good team and the games were close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this is a MD forum but curious what happened to Eagle Stix? They went 1-2-1 at Summer Genesis this weekend. Were they without key players?

They normally have an easier path to playoffs. This was the first time they had to play tough competition for the entire tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulation to Coppermine 28 black for winning Summer Genesis Origins. Very well played against some great competition.

Did Coppermine* beat M&D or Heros to win the ‘ship?

You can see on Tourney Machine who they played. Beat: EagleStix 6-5
Aces 9-5
Legacy LI 16-2
Top Guns 12-2
In playoffs beat:
Philly Blast 6-2
Crush 8-3

Notably, Coppermine’s B team also did well. Going undefeated in regular play and losing in the semis to AIM, who won that division. Beat:
Top Guns 8-7
Yellow Jackets 15-1
Philly Blast 12-5
REV 14-5
In playoffs lost:
AIM 7-4

I think the most interesting part of the summer will be where the Coppermine B team girls play next year. They have 3 or 4 girls who could play on most high level A teams and another 2 or 3 that could play on middle of the pack A teams. Can't see them staying with their current team if they are serious about lax.

I have seen that team a few times - what positions do you think are strong players? Goalie is very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

What makes you think they are losing their top players? They are one of the best teams in the nation with a really good coach. Seems to me players would want go to this team.

I think they mean that the team this new Coppermine girl left is losing a top player. Yes, other top players will try out there too I am sure.

Though they were referring to the team Coppermine beat in the finals. It will be interesting to see where the top players from other clubs end up. I know one team has already secured a top player from a lower level team. Should be an impact player right away and may participate in the Mid-Atlantic in a couple of weeks.

Correct, I was referring to the team that lost in the finals having bias and putting out negative posts, especially with the potential for their top players to maybe leave. Agree Coppermine is top of their game and any top player would want to go there.

As for the other post for top players working in at practices, 100% accurate. Seen it myself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

Interesting info, is this actually true? What was the "former" team? I have a guess based on who didn't play at Genesis this weekend. Coppermine is a good team and 1 of the teams we have thought about trying out for. Real curious to hear the truth on all this or is it just sour grapes that they beat another team that may be looking at losing their top players?

What makes you think they are losing their top players? They are one of the best teams in the nation with a really good coach. Seems to me players would want go to this team.

I think they mean that the team this new Coppermine girl left is losing a top player. Yes, other top players will try out there too I am sure.

Though they were referring to the team Coppermine beat in the finals. It will be interesting to see where the top players from other clubs end up. I know one team has already secured a top player from a lower level team. Should be an impact player right away and may participate in the Mid-Atlantic in a couple of weeks.

Correct, I was referring to the team that lost in the finals having bias and putting out negative posts, especially with the potential for their top players to maybe leave. Agree Coppermine is top of their game and any top player would want to go there.

As for the other post for top players working in at practices, 100% accurate. Seen it myself.

What makes you think they are losing their top players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

As a crush parent i am embarrassed and apologize for this post. We knew about the new player before the game and I noticed and respected that coppermine did not start her in the game. Parents sideline was really only vocal when cheering when they scored. I can say our coach has had better days and could have chosen different language during the game. Was it a tough loss yes, did my daughter take it rough yes, but coppermine is a great team and is getting targeted unfairly by someone on our team which I am sorry for. Crush did great and I am proud of my daughter and the team. I hope these comments do not deter others from exploring crush.

Appreciate this post, thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine’s antics will never cease to amuse. Adding the star midi from a certain lower level A team to the roster with just two tournaments to go in the season. Why not just see the summer out with the girls who’ve dedicated themselves to you all year like everyone else? Anything to get that t-shirt.

As a crush parent i am embarrassed and apologize for this post. We knew about the new player before the game and I noticed and respected that coppermine did not start her in the game. Parents sideline was really only vocal when cheering when they scored. I can say our coach has had better days and could have chosen different language during the game. Was it a tough loss yes, did my daughter take it rough yes, but coppermine is a great team and is getting targeted unfairly by someone on our team which I am sorry for. Crush did great and I am proud of my daughter and the team. I hope these comments do not deter others from exploring crush.

Appreciate this post, thank you.

No worries, my daughter has Crush on her tryout list!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What makes you think they are losing their top players?

No one can predict the future, but the known of recruiting for the clubs that are on the rise at the younger years brings a lot of uncertainty. I think the landscape continues to change and we could see Coppermine, Crush, MDU get stronger with better recruiting. But the history shows that the unknown may push their best players to go to the "known" commodities etc.

Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

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Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?[/quote]

Crush has never beaten Coppermine, so no. Is she a star player? Yes, on every team she plays on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush has never beaten Coppermine, so no. Is she a star player? Yes, on every team she plays on.[/quote]

How many teams has she played on? They are only in 6th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What makes you think they are losing their top players?

No one can predict the future, but the known of recruiting for the clubs that are on the rise at the younger years brings a lot of uncertainty. I think the landscape continues to change and we could see Coppermine, Crush, MDU get stronger with better recruiting. But the history shows that the unknown may push their best players to go to the "known" commodities etc.

Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

No but they don't beat Eagle Stix without her. Key contribution to multiple goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush has never beaten Coppermine, so no. Is she a star player? Yes, on every team she plays on.[/quote]

How many teams has she played on? They are only in 6th grade.[/quote]

Just put a name on it for the former team. There's only 2 A teams that weren't at Origins and only few that may be fit this. Unless it's someone from a team that was at Origins? Seems like alot of he said/she said otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush has never beaten Coppermine, so no. Is she a star player? Yes, on every team she plays on.[/quote]

How many teams has she played on? They are only in 6th grade.[/quote]

Not sure, but at a previous summer tournament SW parents thought she was coming to their team next year.

FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush has never beaten Coppermine, so no. Is she a star player? Yes, on every team she plays on.

How many teams has she played on? They are only in 6th grade.[/quote]

Just put a name on it for the former team. There's only 2 A teams that weren't at Origins and only few that may be fit this. Unless it's someone from a team that was at Origins? Seems like alot of he said/she said otherwise.[/quote]

FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just put a name on it for the former team. There's only 2 A teams that weren't at Origins and only few that may be fit this. Unless it's someone from a team that was at Origins? Seems like alot of he said/she said otherwise.

FCA[/quote]

Assumed it was the player from FCA, although slightly surprised.

If that girl stays with Coppermine that team is going to be very tough to beat when they are fully healthy and that’s not counting anyone that gets added during tryouts

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that girl stays with Coppermine that team is going to be very tough to beat when they are fully healthy and that’s not counting anyone that gets added during tryouts

They would be a very good team and yes, hard to beat. However, slow down on handing out trophies. The others will be bringing in some top players as well, including some surprises

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

How is that possible? Have they ever beaten them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that girl stays with Coppermine that team is going to be very tough to beat when they are fully healthy and that’s not counting anyone that gets added during tryouts

They would be a very good team and yes, hard to beat. However, slow down on handing out trophies. The others will be bringing in some top players as well, including some surprises

This^ I know a team that already secured a “surprise talent”. An impact player stuck on a very bad team that may debut during the Mid Atlantic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

A club that puts many teams in those tournies year after year. Top clubs get in. Not a top team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that girl stays with Coppermine that team is going to be very tough to beat when they are fully healthy and that’s not counting anyone that gets added during tryouts

They would be a very good team and yes, hard to beat. However, slow down on handing out trophies. The others will be bringing in some top players as well, including some surprises

This^ I know a team that already secured a “surprise talent”. An impact player stuck on a very bad team that may debut during the Mid Atlantic!

So we rotated from 1) SW are got better because they picked up new talent for summer to 2) It’s unfair that Coppermine picked up new talent for summer to 3) Bragging about who has their own additions…..this forum is so ridiculous and toxic and everything that is wrong with youth sports.

Scoreboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

Hahahahahahahaha!

What “very bad” team is this girl coming from?

hey

Looks like the new addition made an impact at Origins. Named 1 of the Thinklax all tourney players for 2028. Does she stay or tryout for other teams?

Where do you see them ranked? The posted lists are alphabetical…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

A club that puts many teams in those tournies year after year. Top clubs get in. Not a top team.

What are the big tourneys you are referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

A club that puts many teams in those tournies year after year. Top clubs get in. Not a top team.

What are the big tourneys you are referring to?

LAx for the Cure
Midatlantic
Live Lax Love
Summer Genesis
Those are the four big ones I think.

Crush should merge w TLC.

New middle school director and mercy coach has strong perry hall ties

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What “very bad” team is this girl coming from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

A club that puts many teams in those tournies year after year. Top clubs get in. Not a top team.

What are the big tourneys you are referring to?

Probably both lax for the cures, G8, Chesapeake and maybe a couple others.

As girls get older crush will need to upgrade their spring schedule, meaning they need to really play one.

Unlike others I think their summer schedule is fine though they would help themselves by adding another tourney or two.

Serious question for crush families— have they indicated if they will be upgrading their schedule next year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

No way. Crush will dissolve in 2 more seasons. Gotta get into the big tournaments.

Being a top 5 team doesn’t get you in the big tournaments? What’s the criteria?

Most top tourneys have waiting lists that can run years. If you aren't in a top tourney by sixth grade, it is hard to get off waitlist. Lax For the Cure is a great example of this.

Performance could get your into G8, however, that would be driven by performance across the club not just one team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush should merge w TLC.

New middle school director and mercy coach has strong perry hall ties

That's probably the smartest thing I have ever heard on BOTC. Problem is that Crush is marketed as a "budget" club. TLC is 3x the cost of Crush.

My guess is that Crush ultimately becomes another version of Legends. A good starter club with decent prices and good training that players use as a springboard to other clubs -- which isn't necessarily a bad thing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush should merge w TLC.

New middle school director and mercy coach has strong perry hall ties

That's probably the smartest thing I have ever heard on BOTC. Problem is that Crush is marketed as a "budget" club. TLC is 3x the cost of Crush.

My guess is that Crush ultimately becomes another version of Legends. A good starter club with decent prices and good training that players use as a springboard to other clubs -- which isn't necessarily a bad thing

Exactly what it is. Big clubs get into the big recruiting tournaments in high school and budget clubs are waitlisted and likely play level 2 when they do get in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Not sure how accurate that is? They just beat Eagle Stix and Aces where M&D lost to both. Give credit where credit is due.

What's the record between Coppermine and M&D over the past 2-3 years? That would seem to be a good indicator of who's inferior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the record between Coppermine and M&D over the past 2-3 years? That would seem to be a good indicator of who's inferior.

The question isn’t who is an inferior team, it’s whether someone has an inferiority complex which is an entirely different thing. A team can be the best at their year but someone could still have an inferiority complex because they feel they don’t get the credit they deserve or because their club doesn’t match up to the other clubs, etc. I’m neither poster, but just sayin’

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the record between Coppermine and M&D over the past 2-3 years? That would seem to be a good indicator of who's inferior.

As for the 28’s I believe Coppmine has beaten M&D more times than has lost to them. They were undefeated 2 NGLL seasons in a row and only losing to Hero’s Green this year. I believe and are 1-1 during Championships with them and probably won more head to head tournament games. Now Club to Club it’s M&D hands down over Coppmine. Honestly- two great teams these 28’s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

The program director at Coppermine has everything riding on these 2028s. It’s literally her only good year. The younger ones are mediocre and 2029s were good but went winless last weekend at Hershey. Older teams are not strong either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

They just recruited/took on FCA's best player, how is that not retaining top talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

I think this may be true at other years, but at this year I don't think the concern is being surrounded by quality and committed players. They have some soccer players, but they also have a core group who seem pretty engaged.

Of the two factors mentioned, I think the unknown about recruitment is a bigger issue for many. Someone said any "top player" would want to go play at Coppermine and I think this is false for this reason (obviously some would, but many wouldn't). There are plenty of great 2028 teams who win and have great coaching, but with a better track record for recruitment and a better reputation with college coaches. Is that everything? No, but if you're weighing the pros and cons of a team and your options are open, it's something to consider.

Obviously these kids are still young, but in reality, they're only a few years away from recruiting being a big concern many. And I can't imagine most girls want to move clubs more than once at this point. So if you're moving now, then nows the time to think about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

They just recruited/took on FCA's best player, how is that not retaining top talent?

Is she signed on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

I think this may be true at other years, but at this year I don't think the concern is being surrounded by quality and committed players. They have some soccer players, but they also have a core group who seem pretty engaged.

Of the two factors mentioned, I think the unknown about recruitment is a bigger issue for many. Someone said any "top player" would want to go play at Coppermine and I think this is false for this reason (obviously some would, but many wouldn't). There are plenty of great 2028 teams who win and have great coaching, but with a better track record for recruitment and a better reputation with college coaches. Is that everything? No, but if you're weighing the pros and cons of a team and your options are open, it's something to consider.

Obviously these kids are still young, but in reality, they're only a few years away from recruiting being a big concern many. And I can't imagine most girls want to move clubs more than once at this point. So if you're moving now, then nows the time to think about it.

What impact with CT from Hopkins have on recruiting? Understand she is going to Coppmine and she has connections. The biggest issue of past was being seen and not getting invited to bigger tournaments but that seems a think of the past. They just need some strong teams and bigger recruiting will happen. Their girls are getting recruiting just not the talent for the big D1 schools yet but I bet it changes soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What impact with CT from Hopkins have on recruiting? Understand she is going to Coppmine and she has connections. The biggest issue of past was being seen and not getting invited to bigger tournaments but that seems a think of the past. They just need some strong teams and bigger recruiting will happen. Their girls are getting recruiting just not the talent for the big D1 schools yet but I bet it changes soon.

Is this happening or is it still just rumor? Even with a director, seems like it will take some time for them to build up a reputation and, at this point, 2028 will be their first strong recruiting class. Maybe this is what someone meant when they said director is hanging everything on 2028??

Someone explain why CT from Hopkins is some sort of breakthrough recruiting coup for them over established clubs like M&D, Hero's MDU, who have club directors that have been building relationships for club players to college coaches for over a decade?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone explain why CT from Hopkins is some sort of breakthrough recruiting coup for them over established clubs like M&D, Hero's MDU, who have club directors that have been building relationships for club players to college coaches for over a decade?

Maybe because she personally knows most of the coaches? She is a decorated coach, and probably has a better relationship with other college coaches than most recruiting directors.

Talent get recruited. JT has the connections to let coaches know about talent within the club if there is someone worthy of being seen. Coppermine hasn’t had the top talent or been able to keep it but have it now in the younger divisions and should be able to keep it. That’s how she will help. They aren’t at the same level as the big three but can get there if they can start keeping teams throughout MS and into HS. They are also now in some of the bigger tournaments too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

They just recruited/took on FCA's best player, how is that not retaining top talent?

I’m sure Coppermine** has the new FCA player on the field now to show her the fine art of “flopping” and driving into the lane, getting a finger nail on her, falling down, screaming in pain, and watch the referees give her a 8 meter shot as she’s smiling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

Does Coppermine tolerate it since the players are most likely on a Coppermine Soccer Team as well?$$?$$?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Talent get recruited. JT has the connections to let coaches know about talent within the club if there is someone worthy of being seen. Coppermine hasn’t had the top talent or been able to keep it but have it now in the younger divisions and should be able to keep it. That’s how she will help. They aren’t at the same level as the big three but can get there if they can start keeping teams throughout MS and into HS. They are also now in some of the bigger tournaments too.

JT is moving to Virginia Beach. Is she going to get to know the players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sure Coppermine** has the new FCA player on the field now to show her the fine art of “flopping” and driving into the lane, getting a finger nail on her, falling down, screaming in pain, and watch the referees give her a 8 meter shot as she’s smiling.

Lots of flopping, was pretty surprised seeing all that. There are definitely some tough teams and then so not so tough teams. I hope the refs catch on to that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

Does Coppermine tolerate it since the players are most likely on a Coppermine Soccer Team as well?$$?$$?

Coppermine in the past tolerated it because they did not want to lose some of their lax players to soccer, so they convinced those girls to leave their previous soccer teams and join Coppermine soccer so that there would be more flexibility. Coppermine soccer coaches also understanding that the girls would miss soccer sometimes for lacrosse. Best of both worlds if your daughter wants to play both in high school, frustrating if you are a girl committed to one of those teams as a primary sport and girls are missing. Not sure how long it will continue for the lax or soccer teams.

Have none of you heard the benefits of multi sport athletes?

Coppermine providing a way for club lacrosse to not be the only priority (at all ages) and still finding a way to compete at the highest level is much more impressive than all these teams that make kids specialize. Ever think that maybe BECAUSE they have talented soccer players that maybe that’s why they are so fast and able to blow by most of the complainers in here?

Trying reading and educating yourselves instead of blowing hot air out of both ends:

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/regar...ultiple-sportsactivities-is-best-choice/

https://www.stack.com/a/5-reasons-college-coaches-love-recruiting-multi-sport-athletes/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sure Coppermine** has the new FCA player on the field now to show her the fine art of “flopping” and driving into the lane, getting a finger nail on her, falling down, screaming in pain, and watch the referees give her a 8 meter shot as she’s smiling.

Lots of flopping, was pretty surprised seeing all that. There are definitely some tough teams and then so not so tough teams. I hope the refs catch on to that.

lots of smack talking about how 12 year old girls play the game. Willing to bet the parents writing such comments could barely run across the field without sucking wind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m sure Coppermine** has the new FCA player on the field now to show her the fine art of “flopping” and driving into the lane, getting a finger nail on her, falling down, screaming in pain, and watch the referees give her a 8 meter shot as she’s smiling.

Lots of flopping, was pretty surprised seeing all that. There are definitely some tough teams and then so not so tough teams. I hope the refs catch on to that.

lots of smack talking about how 12 year old girls play the game. Willing to bet the parents writing such comments could barely run across the field without sucking wind.

Its really not about the 12 year olds, its more about the refs and how they are creating the environment to incentivize it. NGLL was really bad, tournament refs aren't so whistle happy, not sure if its because of outside MD, or because they are tired from having to ref 9 games in the heat.

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote/ Curious if any of the Crush parents think the "guest" player pushed them over the edge for the win?

Crush is way better than Coppermine without that add on.

What are you basing this comment on?? Has Crush ever beaten Coppermine? They tied them once, a few weeks ago, and that's the closest they've ever come. So, this comment is simply lashing out / inferiority complex?

Just like the inferiority complex Coppermine has to M&D, Heros and on occasional Skywalkers

Yup, and those are the top clubs with proven track-records (recruitment) and they require serious commitment. Missing lacrosse March-July for another sport is unacceptable if you want to play for a top club. My daughter would not want to play for a team/club that tolerates players missing a game or tournament for another sport. That is letting your teammates down.

Exactly This. Until Coppermine become more "professional" they won't recruit and retain top players. Top players want to be surrounded by full committed teammates.

Does Coppermine tolerate it since the players are most likely on a Coppermine Soccer Team as well?$$?$$?

Their best soccer players play on pipeline. Some girls play on Coppermine soccer club, but those girls are much better at lax than soccer.

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

Coaches can ask for a stick check anytime they want. If they lose, other team gets the draw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

Coaches can ask for a stick check anytime they want. If they lose, other team gets the draw.

Are you talking just illegal draw sticks or illegal field sticks as well?

Sounds like some people are grasping at straws here. Player additions to flopping to illegal sticks?? What's next? How about discussing the growing game and continued rise of talent and better teams in this area? There will be rivalries and battles along the way, but there are some very strong teams here and will continue to get better with new talent, new additions etc. Should be excited that Maryland teams were very successful at L4TC and Genesis Origins in most divisions and beating some of the best competition out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

Coaches can ask for a stick check anytime they want. If they lose, other team gets the draw.

Are you talking just illegal draw sticks or illegal field sticks as well?

Draw sticks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

Coaches can ask for a stick check anytime they want. If they lose, other team gets the draw.

Are you talking just illegal draw sticks or illegal field sticks as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like some people are grasping at straws here. Player additions to flopping to illegal sticks?? What's next? How about discussing the growing game and continued rise of talent and better teams in this area? There will be rivalries and battles along the way, but there are some very strong teams here and will continue to get better with new talent, new additions etc. Should be excited that Maryland teams were very successful at L4TC and Genesis Origins in most divisions and beating some of the best competition out there.

Either. The specs are the same for both types of sticks.

A goal was disallowed in the quarterfinal of LFTC for 26s due to an illegal stick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

Did anyone’s DD do the Apex games? How was it? Worth the time or money?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Several pages of posts says there’s more to it than this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone’s DD do the Apex games? How was it? Worth the time or money?

Decent competition, but if you play on a top 4 club, really not an upgrade vs what you see on a weekly basis. could be worth it if on a mid-tier club.

Like the fact that they mixed up teams across clubs. This eliminates the cliquiness that you see at AU Futures where girls only pass to their friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Can you give reasons why you aren't a fan?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Can you give reasons why you aren't a fan?

Why? That would just start the conversation over again from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Can you give reasons why you aren't a fan?

Why? That would just start the conversation over again from the beginning.

Timing is impeccable. Spread the detest right before tryouts to Discourage readers from taking their daughters there for tryouts.

It's about time the field of top teams grows beyond the big 3. That means there is more talent than those rosters can handle and other programs will benefit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone’s DD do the Apex games? How was it? Worth the time or money?

An absolute waste of money! Highly recommend everyone stay away from this one!

Day 1: 1.5 hrs of basic skills and drills stations. Then two, 40 minute games (4-10 minute qtrs.). With a running clock! After dead time actual game play was about 30-35 minutes! After subbing, each girl probably got about 20 minutes of field time (not actual game play) per game. Results of the two games were used to seed for tournament on day 2.

Day 2: Game 1 was between Seeds 3/6 and 4/5. Seeds. 1 and 2 had byes. lost goes home, winner moves on and is guaranteed two more games: Semifinal and Championship or third place game.

So, players that lost the first game on day 2 only received 1.5 hrs skills and drills and maybe 60 minutes of game time! You can do the cost per game!

Also, our team had about 5 players from the same team! But, we did get to play 5 games-2 regular and three tourney games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Can you give reasons why you aren't a fan?

Why? That would just start the conversation over again from the beginning.

Timing is impeccable. Spread the detest right before tryouts to Discourage readers from taking their daughters there for tryouts.

It's about time the field of top teams grows beyond the big 3. That means there is more talent than those rosters can handle and other programs will benefit.

I literally said I wasn't going to list reasons (i.e. spread detest). And in case you haven't noticed, people have been saying they have issues with how this team does things since WELL before being on the cusp of tryouts. Whether they get an extra player at tryouts has no bearing on my DD's development, which I value far more than winning at all costs. So best of luck to all this tryout season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Refs need to initiate in last 2 minutes. Other than that, it should be granted

Is it better to be on a lower level A team or on a B team from a bigger club, like Coppermine, M&D, Skywalkers? Are any of the B teams good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be on a lower level A team or on a B team from a bigger club, like Coppermine, M&D, Skywalkers? Are any of the B teams good?

No right answer here other than on a team where you all like the coaching and she enjoys playing with the group

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Curious too why they wouldn’t be granted one but out of curiousity what made it clear on video that the stick was illegal

It’s the American 🇺🇸 way- we love the underdogs and detest the winners- unless you are that winner. Coppermine does nothing different than any of the other clubs including my daughter’s club. We have played them many times and no different than M&D, Hero’s Green, MDU or Crush which in my opinion round out the 5 best 28’s in the area. The best kids have always practiced or guest played with clubs before finding their permanent club and were doing it back when my oldest played club over 7 years ago. All other girls go to tryouts. At least with the growth of the sport I don’t see has any out of state girls coming to play just the Summer Tournament Season with local clubs like they did with certain clubs in the past. Please don’t let these bitter parents on here defer anyone for going to tryouts for whichever club you think is the best fit for your daughter whether one of those mentioned Big 5 or any other club. Do your own research, speak to the coaches, meet the teams / players, see the development others girls are getting and do what is best for your daughter. I see a lot of bitterness, jealousy and hear a lot of excuses on here. Wish I knew which teams some of these parents had their kids on because I would stay away from those teams honestly. I personally love the newer competition my 28 daughter has as compared to my older 2 girls where it always came down to the same 3 or 4 teams every year and tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s the American 🇺🇸 way- we love the underdogs and detest the winners- unless you are that winner. Coppermine does nothing different than any of the other clubs including my daughter’s club. We have played them many times and no different than M&D, Hero’s Green, MDU or Crush which in my opinion round out the 5 best 28’s in the area. The best kids have always practiced or guest played with clubs before finding their permanent club and were doing it back when my oldest played club over 7 years ago. All other girls go to tryouts. At least with the growth of the sport I don’t see has any out of state girls coming to play just the Summer Tournament Season with local clubs like they did with certain clubs in the past. Please don’t let these bitter parents on here defer anyone for going to tryouts for whichever club you think is the best fit for your daughter whether one of those mentioned Big 5 or any other club. Do your own research, speak to the coaches, meet the teams / players, see the development others girls are getting and do what is best for your daughter. I see a lot of bitterness, jealousy and hear a lot of excuses on here. Wish I knew which teams some of these parents had their kids on because I would stay away from those teams honestly. I personally love the newer competition my 28 daughter has as compared to my older 2 girls where it always came down to the same 3 or 4 teams every year and tournament.

Well said and totally agree. The top 5 are all at the top for similar reasons, however their differences are what will make one a better fit for one player over another. Research is key to find out which one the best fit....and BEYOND this forum kind of research. The additional talented teams at the 28 level make for a better experience and more opportunities for everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it better to be on a lower level A team or on a B team from a bigger club, like Coppermine, M&D, Skywalkers? Are any of the B teams good?

I can speak from experience…. Keep your daughter on an “A” team if possible. Mine was on a very good white team who beat the “A” teams of clubs like Integrity, Renegades, MDU, Coppermine, TLC and other out of state teams’ “A” teams. The problem begins to show when you play outside of maryland. Tournaments will put you in lower brackets and there’s nothing your club director can do about it. It stinks in high school because there’s just not as many coaches at the games. I’ve seen more coaches at Integrity, Pride and Coppermine games then ours and we beat them very very solidly.

So if you’re on somewhat of a decent “A” team stay there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Lol. This must be a MDU parent. Salty they didn’t make the playoffs and looking for excuses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Lol. This must be a MDU parent. Salty they didn’t make the playoffs and looking for excuses

LOL, my kid isn't even a 2028.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Lol. This must be a MDU parent. Salty they didn’t make the playoffs and looking for excuses

LOL, my kid isn't even a 2028.

Then why are you bothering to post on a 28 thread saying you have video evidence of the use of an illegal stick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is Oscar worthy! New form of cheating in the sport. Highly frustrating to watch. Not a reputation I would want my kid to have.

Can we talk about the illegal sticks being used, and why no stick checks in club?

What are you talking about? A coach can ask for a stick check at any time during the game. If your daughter is complaining that she is losing the draws because of the opponents stick, she is either making excuses when she loses and you are letting her, or you are not empowering her to ask coach/ref for a stick check. Either way it’s on you and not on the “system”

My daughter isn't even a draw player so just relax lol.

I'll find out why our coaches weren't granted a stick check at Hershey but it was clear on video the stick was illegal.

Curious too why they wouldn’t be granted one but out of curiousity what made it clear on video that the stick was illegal

Ball clearly was below the head when she had it in stick.

Cause the illegal stick was during a 2028 game…

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

Heard same rumor, but thought it was only his 26 daughter moving.

Interesting!! That tells you that MND has great coaching, if a college coach is moving his daughter to MND and not Coppermine, especially if they live in White marsh, perry hall area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

I can’t answer your question with certainty, but I’m an M&D parent and I will say that of all the rumors Ive heard in the rumor mill - this has not been one of them. I could see his older daughter moving because she’s going into high school so perhaps that’s the source of it but that is a complete guess. Maybe you could email the club and ask who’s coaching for the upcoming year. Seems like a reasonable question going into tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

Sad if true but i heard there are a handful of 26 girls are trying out for Nems which i believe his oldest is on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

Wow!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

That would be the end of crush for sure. Could be a plus for M&D. I would doubt that he would do that so close to tryouts and being the face of that club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

^^^^Probably a Coppermine parent trying to cause an exodus from Crush! If you are sincere, call the coach and ask if you’re so concerned!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

As Donald Trump would say: FAKE NEWS!
Next Topic: Which team has the best coaching staff at developing their players?

I’m Mike Faith, the coach of the Crush 28 team. My 26 daughter is trying out for a few different teams. My daughter on the 28 Crush team and I are both staying with Crush through high school. We would love to have you at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am not a fan of Coppermine’s lacrosse club, but isn’t there anything else for people to talk about here? They’re an afterthought on every other girls thread but here it’s all anyone talks about.

When you are the #1 team people will talk about you.

Can you give reasons why you aren't a fan?

Why? That would just start the conversation over again from the beginning.

Timing is impeccable. Spread the detest right before tryouts to Discourage readers from taking their daughters there for tryouts.

It's about time the field of top teams grows beyond the big 3. That means there is more talent than those rosters can handle and other programs will benefit.

I literally said I wasn't going to list reasons (i.e. spread detest). And in case you haven't noticed, people have been saying they have issues with how this team does things since WELL before being on the cusp of tryouts. Whether they get an extra player at tryouts has no bearing on my DD's development, which I value far more than winning at all costs. So best of luck to all this tryout season.

Coppermine is an excellent team

They also barely sub, have awful / obnoxious parents and no history of recruiting

This is true. Feel sorry for M&D.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m Mike Faith, the coach of the Crush 28 team. My 26 daughter is trying out for a few different teams. My daughter on the 28 Crush team and I are both staying with Crush through high school. We would love to have you at tryouts.

Hope this is real. What positions are you looking for this year? Thanks for clearing up the rumor.

[Anonymous]

Coppermine is an excellent team

They also barely sub, have awful / obnoxious parents and no history of recruiting[/quote]

I'm sure I can guess what team this is coming from. Been to several games and no such parents or behavior and even games when they played M&D. The continued trashing of the team, coaching staff, parents and club gets old. Move on and accept they are a great team and deal with it. Heros and M&D have lots of their own issues but apparently everyone thinks they are perfect. Let the girls have fun and enjoy the competition.

I literally said I wasn't going to list reasons (i.e. spread detest). And in case you haven't noticed, people have been saying they have issues with how this team does things since WELL before being on the cusp of tryouts. Whether they get an extra player at tryouts has no bearing on my DD's development, which I value far more than winning at all costs. So best of luck to all this tryout season.[/quote]

Coppermine is an excellent team

They also barely sub, have awful / obnoxious parents and no history of recruiting[/quote]
Which is why lots of parents will avoid Coppermine! Too many clubs to choose from that actually play team lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m Mike Faith, the coach of the Crush 28 team. My 26 daughter is trying out for a few different teams. My daughter on the 28 Crush team and I are both staying with Crush through high school. We would love to have you at tryouts.

Hope this is real. What positions are you looking for this year? Thanks for clearing up the rumor.

You really think the coach is coming in here! Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

As Donald Trump would say: FAKE NEWS!
Next Topic: Which team has the best coaching staff at developing their players?

Nice try deflecting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m Mike Faith, the coach of the Crush 28 team. My 26 daughter is trying out for a few different teams. My daughter on the 28 Crush team and I are both staying with Crush through high school. We would love to have you at tryouts.

Hope this is real. What positions are you looking for this year? Thanks for clearing up the rumor.

Keep hoping, nothing on this site is real!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

^^^^Probably a Coppermine parent trying to cause an exodus from Crush! If you are sincere, call the coach and ask if you’re so concerned!

It’s funny everyone tries to target Coppermine. We have played them a few times and everything on this site about them is so inaccurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I literally said I wasn't going to list reasons (i.e. spread detest). And in case you haven't noticed, people have been saying they have issues with how this team does things since WELL before being on the cusp of tryouts. Whether they get an extra player at tryouts has no bearing on my DD's development, which I value far more than winning at all costs. So best of luck to all this tryout season.

Coppermine is an excellent team

They also barely sub, have awful / obnoxious parents and no history of recruiting[/quote]
Which is why lots of parents will avoid Coppermine! Too many clubs to choose from that actually play team lacrosse![/quote]

Lol keep spreading nonsense. Quite the opposite, lots of parents are drawn to the club and especially the 28 team. Great coaching and a great team. There are other top clubs with parent coaching and different style coaches that are much less appealing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

His daughter doesn’t play for NEMS, she is on Crush. He is only leaving the 26’s…so most likely she will be leaving the team as well. 28’s staying the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s the American 🇺🇸 way- we love the underdogs and detest the winners- unless you are that winner. Coppermine does nothing different than any of the other clubs including my daughter’s club. We have played them many times and no different than M&D, Hero’s Green, MDU or Crush which in my opinion round out the 5 best 28’s in the area. The best kids have always practiced or guest played with clubs before finding their permanent club and were doing it back when my oldest played club over 7 years ago. All other girls go to tryouts. At least with the growth of the sport I don’t see has any out of state girls coming to play just the Summer Tournament Season with local clubs like they did with certain clubs in the past. Please don’t let these bitter parents on here defer anyone for going to tryouts for whichever club you think is the best fit for your daughter whether one of those mentioned Big 5 or any other club. Do your own research, speak to the coaches, meet the teams / players, see the development others girls are getting and do what is best for your daughter. I see a lot of bitterness, jealousy and hear a lot of excuses on here. Wish I knew which teams some of these parents had their kids on because I would stay away from those teams honestly. I personally love the newer competition my 28 daughter has as compared to my older 2 girls where it always came down to the same 3 or 4 teams every year and tournament.

Well said and totally agree. The top 5 are all at the top for similar reasons, however their differences are what will make one a better fit for one player over another. Research is key to find out which one the best fit....and BEYOND this forum kind of research. The additional talented teams at the 28 level make for a better experience and more opportunities for everyone.

There are many things to consider for all of us as we decide which Club or Team to tryout for. Individual Team is one consideration while overall Club is another consideration. Everyone has different priorities…it may be relationships with friends…maybe style of play of each coach…perhaps which team wins the most games…or possibly recruiting history…maybe individual development of all players…so as you see the list can go on and on. The consistency of a Club year in and year out is another important factor.

There is a distinct difference between a Club as a whole and an individual Team. The clubs most of us are considering all have had teams in many graduation years for some time. They all have a track record of history to this point. So of the Clubs often considered here, these are the current National Average Rankings of the local Clubs as a whole.

As of July 1 for all eligible ranked teams 2023-2028. (6 grad years).

Coppermine Black - 52
MD United East - 31
Skywalkers Blue - 16
Hero’s Green - 4
M&D Black - 2

Any Club can have one great Team as an outlier from time to time and that is admirable. An example of this is Coppermine 2028, great team no doubt about it. They in-fact beat their 2027 team today for the Youth World Festival Championship. Great for the 2028 team but not a good thing for the Club.

Anyone can choose to invest in a promise or a hope for the future and no one will fault anyone for that. Others will choose to make their decisions based off of history.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m Mike Faith, the coach of the Crush 28 team. My 26 daughter is trying out for a few different teams. My daughter on the 28 Crush team and I are both staying with Crush through high school. We would love to have you at tryouts.

Hope this is real. What positions are you looking for this year? Thanks for clearing up the rumor.

You really think the coach is coming in here! Haha

I'm Mike Faith, yes, I'm the real Faith
All you other Mike Faith’s are just imitating
So won't the real Mike Faith please stand up
Please stand up, please stand up?
'Cause I'm Mike Faith, yes, I'm the real Faith
All you other Mike Faith’s are just imitating
So won't the real Mike Faith please stand up
Please stand up, please stand up?

Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s the American 🇺🇸 way- we love the underdogs and detest the winners- unless you are that winner. Coppermine does nothing different than any of the other clubs including my daughter’s club. We have played them many times and no different than M&D, Hero’s Green, MDU or Crush which in my opinion round out the 5 best 28’s in the area. The best kids have always practiced or guest played with clubs before finding their permanent club and were doing it back when my oldest played club over 7 years ago. All other girls go to tryouts. At least with the growth of the sport I don’t see has any out of state girls coming to play just the Summer Tournament Season with local clubs like they did with certain clubs in the past. Please don’t let these bitter parents on here defer anyone for going to tryouts for whichever club you think is the best fit for your daughter whether one of those mentioned Big 5 or any other club. Do your own research, speak to the coaches, meet the teams / players, see the development others girls are getting and do what is best for your daughter. I see a lot of bitterness, jealousy and hear a lot of excuses on here. Wish I knew which teams some of these parents had their kids on because I would stay away from those teams honestly. I personally love the newer competition my 28 daughter has as compared to my older 2 girls where it always came down to the same 3 or 4 teams every year and tournament.

Well said and totally agree. The top 5 are all at the top for similar reasons, however their differences are what will make one a better fit for one player over another. Research is key to find out which one the best fit....and BEYOND this forum kind of research. The additional talented teams at the 28 level make for a better experience and more opportunities for everyone.

There are many things to consider for all of us as we decide which Club or Team to tryout for. Individual Team is one consideration while overall Club is another consideration. Everyone has different priorities…it may be relationships with friends…maybe style of play of each coach…perhaps which team wins the most games…or possibly recruiting history…maybe individual development of all players…so as you see the list can go on and on. The consistency of a Club year in and year out is another important factor.

There is a distinct difference between a Club as a whole and an individual Team. The clubs most of us are considering all have had teams in many graduation years for some time. They all have a track record of history to this point. So of the Clubs often considered here, these are the current National Average Rankings of the local Clubs as a whole.

As of July 1 for all eligible ranked teams 2023-2028. (6 grad years).

Coppermine Black - 52
MD United East - 31
Skywalkers Blue - 16
Hero’s Green - 4
M&D Black - 2

Any Club can have one great Team as an outlier from time to time and that is admirable. An example of this is Coppermine 2028, great team no doubt about it. They in-fact beat their 2027 team today for the Youth World Festival Championship. Great for the 2028 team but not a good thing for the Club.

Anyone can choose to invest in a promise or a hope for the future and no one will fault anyone for that. Others will choose to make their decisions based off of history.

And you have to recognize that change is inevitable. Faulting people for choosing coppermine because their current recruiting track record doesn't match up with the historical 3, but they keep beating those 3 teams seems a little backwards. Change happens. There is room for more talent at the top.

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I have been debating on which team to have my daughter tryout for and i just heard a rumor from an m&d parent that the head coach of crush is moving over with his daughters to m&d. crush was one of the teams we were looking at but need to find out if this is true bc that changes everything. Also if this is true do the parents on crush know?

As Donald Trump would say: FAKE NEWS!
Next Topic: Which team has the best coaching staff at developing their players?

Nice try deflecting

How is it deflecting when a legitimate question was asked? Would love to hear insights on “best coaching staff for developing their players”

Mike was my coach in college and he is a stand up guy. I can totally see him posting here to clear up any rumors. Also, I’m pretty confident every coach checks this forum out occasionally.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

And you can tell they are becoming a factor when more and more lax people try to attack then so they can keep their own players. Keep working Coppermine and no I’m not a parent there. Love they are creating another good option for kids!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

I truly wish them the best. However, to really make a step forward they need to have a good recruiting class. I believe it can happen if a majority of their stars from the 28 team stay.

However, once tryout after 8th grade year come around, I know several families will be tempted by the recruiting reps of SW, M&D and Heros. Curious what Coppermine will do to keep them around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mike was my coach in college and he is a stand up guy. I can totally see him posting here to clear up any rumors. Also, I’m pretty confident every coach checks this forum out occasionally.

I know that one coach’s wife posts here frequently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

Hope this forum stays active so we can see how badly this comment ages.

College coaches aren’t going to turn away interested talent because of what name is on the kid’s club jersey. Plenty of M&D, Hero’s & Skywalkers go on to the sit the bench at high level programs. Who cares if your kid was on the team if they never see the field? Show me their stats on how many of their kids transfer or quit in college comparative to other clubs.

Is success simply getting a kid to top D1 or is success getting players to complete 4 years of in game playing time and graduate with a degree?! High # of Transfers = failure to help the player find the best situation for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

Good idea, lets always keep things status quo and never change, expand or push the envelope. The "that's how it has always been" agruement is so worn out. Good things happen when you have people willing to take a chance on something they believe in, put in hard work, time, energy and resources, and begin to experience success. Success breeds success. So to think that if a team continues to have success and be ranked at or near top in the country in 3 years that college coaches won't be standing on their sidelines watching them play is both niave and ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

And you can tell they are becoming a factor when more and more lax people try to attack then so they can keep their own players. Keep working Coppermine and no I’m not a parent there. Love they are creating another good option for kids!

I don’t feel like the post was attacking Coppermine 2028, but rather even complimented them as a team. However, they are clearly an outlier within their club and you should be proud of your team. No one can pretend or conveniently forget their history of success of a Club as whole to date. No one is faulting anyone for the strategy of hope and monetary investment. They have invested in every team they have fielded for years, and the results aren’t terrible but you are who you are. Coppermine is not a new club.

The 2028s have outshined the rest of their club and to this point have been the most consistent 2028 team. No dispute there. I can acknowledge and respect many peoples hope and belief for the future of that club based as what that team has done to date. One also must acknowledge and not dismiss the history or the club to date as if the 27s, 26s, 25s etc don’t exist. I believe Coppermine 2028 will remain a good team. However when choosing a Club the choice is either one of proven success, or one of the strategy of hope and belief.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

I’ve never understood the logic that having one great team is suddenly going to catapult Coppermine into being a big time club. I’m not saying the club won’t get there eventually, but having one great 7th grade team won’t suddenly change things in the larger landscape. Do you know how many clubs have one excellent team and then are just good to below average at other years? A lot

I get they’re investing in their younger years and a sustained investment should pay off in time, but it seems only reasonable to assume it will take some time to build up to a club that is known to college recruiters, has college connections, and has a reputation for excellence beyond just parents with kids in the 28 (maybe 29?) year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What “very bad” team is this girl coming from?

I believe Limelight, but not sure. Apparently she was at the Coppermine Tucker Tune Up.

Does anyone know if Skywalkers requires attendance at both tryout dates? Trying to work out a tryout schedule for a couple of teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if Skywalkers requires attendance at both tryout dates? Trying to work out a tryout schedule for a couple of teams.

It helps a lot

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

Hope this forum stays active so we can see how badly this comment ages.

College coaches aren’t going to turn away interested talent because of what name is on the kid’s club jersey. Plenty of M&D, Hero’s & Skywalkers go on to the sit the bench at high level programs. Who cares if your kid was on the team if they never see the field? Show me their stats on how many of their kids transfer or quit in college comparative to other clubs.

Is success simply getting a kid to top D1 or is success getting players to complete 4 years of in game playing time and graduate with a degree?! High # of Transfers = failure to help the player find the best situation for them.

It’s not about college coaches turning away players it’s all about connections and the ability to connect players to schools they’re interested in. Whether you believe it or not, it’s a large part of the recruitment process along with going to specific college camps players maybe interested in attending. The more all around successful programs already have these connections. That’s just the truth and coppermine is just not there yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

darn. Somebodies daddy is a little salty today. Would love to see your college resume as you call out someone so respected in the lax world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

NEMS is headed in the wrong direction! Their 28 team lacks quality coaching and their 29 team is terrible. While Coppermine is building their program’s youth teams with quality coaches from the 28 team and younger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

NEMS has one great team - the 24’s. The 25 & 26 team is average, the 27’s are crumbling, and the 28 and 29 team are terrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

By stating they have “zero history of recruiting” is saying they don’t have players recruited which is a flat out lie. Every team has great recruitments, some ages better then others.
Also, “a slightly above average coach” is just an ignorant comment.
Always blows my mind what people will come on here & say. Usually the negative comments are due to some form of jealousy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

By stating they have “zero history of recruiting” is saying they don’t have players recruited which is a flat out lie. Every team has great recruitments, some ages better then others.
Also, “a slightly above average coach” is just an ignorant comment.
Always blows my mind what people will come on here & say. Usually the negative comments are due to some form of jealousy.

I agree that the comment about the coach was ignorant, I don’t understand when people make fact less based opinions. But I also don’t understand how in this conversation that any defense of Coppermine never addresses the facts that have been commented on here about overall club success (not opinion). They continue to speak of hope and future change acting as though who the club currently is doesn’t count or matter. I get the idea of being sold hope and investment. But to act like it’s not a gamble is silly. To be clear Coppermine 2028 is great and yes an outlier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

NEMS has one great team - the 24’s. The 25 & 26 team is average, the 27’s are crumbling, and the 28 and 29 team are terrible.

24s are good not great. The only good players are the 23 holdbacks and the coaches kid.

NEMS 2024 is a perfect example of kids and parents thinking that a strong 5th, 6th grade, and 7th grade team will persist into the years that matter. A former #1 team falling outside the top 10 when it matters while somehow inferior teams surpass them.

Even worse, the 24 NEMS coach will only look out for her daughter who is only the strongest player because she helped direct the supporting cast to get her the ball all the time. It will get worse as more clipboards appear on the fields.

Lots of similarities to the same conversations about 28 teams. Being blinded by t-shirts and wins are short sighted and miss the big picture. As parents, these are nuances your daughters don’t understand and it is your role to help them see the big picture. Thinking “but (fill in the club) has a shot to win the NGLL next year” is the wrong mentality.

[quote=Anonymous]NEMS 2024 is a perfect example of kids and parents thinking that a strong 5th, 6th grade, and 7th grade team will persist into the years that matter. A former #1 team falling outside the top 10 when it matters while somehow inferior teams surpass them.

Even worse, the 24 NEMS coach will only look out for her daughter who is only the strongest player because she helped direct the supporting cast to get her the ball all the time. It will get worse as more clipboards appear on the fields.

Former # 1 team? You must be a Nems parent. They never won a tournament witht the top teams in it. Never remember them in playoffs at NGLL either. Their current middle school teams are average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if Skywalkers requires attendance at both tryout dates? Trying to work out a tryout schedule for a couple of teams.

It helps a lot

No! If they like you they will offer before tryouts and you don’t have to attend any. SW knows who they want to poach before tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]NEMS 2024 is a perfect example of kids and parents thinking that a strong 5th, 6th grade, and 7th grade team will persist into the years that matter. A former #1 team falling outside the top 10 when it matters while somehow inferior teams surpass them.

Even worse, the 24 NEMS coach will only look out for her daughter who is only the strongest player because she helped direct the supporting cast to get her the ball all the time. It will get worse as more clipboards appear on the fields.

Former # 1 team? You must be a Nems parent. They never won a tournament witht the top teams in it. Never remember them in playoffs at NGLL either. Their current middle school teams are average.

This response is not even commenting on the purpose of the post. The post made another great point and example of what continues to be explained on this thread. The winning sometimes blinds people of reality.

I personally hope the Coppermine 2028 team stays together, there are some really talented girls on that team that could potentially take roster spots away from girls on my daughters team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

NEMS has one great team - the 24’s. The 25 & 26 team is average, the 27’s are crumbling, and the 28 and 29 team are terrible.

24s are good not great. The only good players are the 23 holdbacks and the coaches kid.

You obviously don’t know that team…

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

darn. Somebodies daddy is a little salty today. Would love to see your college resume as you call out someone so respected in the lax world.

Tucker is all-time winningest coach at Johns Hopkins with a 303-171 (.639) record in 28 seasons, including a 235-155 (.603) mark at the Division I level.

Honestly, is that an elite record? Especially when you are in the backyard of the some of the best players in the country

Would Coppermine 28 parents be thrilled w winning 6 out of 10 times?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if Skywalkers requires attendance at both tryout dates? Trying to work out a tryout schedule for a couple of teams.

It helps a lot

No! If they like you they will offer before tryouts and you don’t have to attend any. SW knows who they want to poach before tryouts.

A lot depends on if you have practiced with them over the summer. If they don't know who you are, I would attend both to have any type of chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has invested time, money, resources, etc into their 2028 & younger teams. New coaches hired down to 2032. They have hired multiple full time staff members dedicated to the lacrosse program. They have new indoor & outdoor facilities that became available within the past year and more are under development. They have camps and programs for kids starting at 2 years old, which will continue to be a feeder, especially with their Carroll County location drawing even more talent. The 2028 team has been a catalyst for change in the program. They are not an outlier.

Nice try. Give it two years when your daughters are headed to high school and want to play beyond. That’s when the movement will happen. The connections the other clubs have to the collegiate track are just a fact. You can’t develop that in just a year and one team. Look at recruitment for each club and the history there…

Hope this forum stays active so we can see how badly this comment ages.

College coaches aren’t going to turn away interested talent because of what name is on the kid’s club jersey. Plenty of M&D, Hero’s & Skywalkers go on to the sit the bench at high level programs. Who cares if your kid was on the team if they never see the field? Show me their stats on how many of their kids transfer or quit in college comparative to other clubs.

Is success simply getting a kid to top D1 or is success getting players to complete 4 years of in game playing time and graduate with a degree?! High # of Transfers = failure to help the player find the best situation for them.

It’s not about college coaches turning away players it’s all about connections and the ability to connect players to schools they’re interested in. Whether you believe it or not, it’s a large part of the recruitment process along with going to specific college camps players maybe interested in attending. The more all around successful programs already have these connections. That’s just the truth and coppermine is just not there yet.

Sounds like someone who hasn't been through the process at all. A good recruiting director will never get you an offer at the D-1 level at least. (they have more influence on D-3). What they can do is 1) help get more coaches to your games and get you preferred invites to prospect days and more importantly 2) get you real time feedback from coaches on your chances of actually getting recruited.

For a top MD team, since none of them are exactly underexposed, this is not that big of a deal. If this club were in Texas, Chicago or Denver (non lax hotbeds), a former coach recruiting director would be a much bigger deal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

darn. Somebodies daddy is a little salty today. Would love to see your college resume as you call out someone so respected in the lax world.

Tucker is all-time winningest coach at Johns Hopkins with a 303-171 (.639) record in 28 seasons, including a 235-155 (.603) mark at the Division I level.

Honestly, is that an elite record? Especially when you are in the backyard of the some of the best players in the country

Would Coppermine 28 parents be thrilled w winning 6 out of 10 times?

Especially considering until they joined the big ten 6 or 7 years ago, many of those years were against subpar schedules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]NEMS 2024 is a perfect example of kids and parents thinking that a strong 5th, 6th grade, and 7th grade team will persist into the years that matter. A former #1 team falling outside the top 10 when it matters while somehow inferior teams surpass them.

Even worse, the 24 NEMS coach will only look out for her daughter who is only the strongest player because she helped direct the supporting cast to get her the ball all the time. It will get worse as more clipboards appear on the fields.

Former # 1 team? You must be a Nems parent. They never won a tournament witht the top teams in it. Never remember them in playoffs at NGLL either. Their current middle school teams are average.

They were ranked #1 at one point this year….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]NEMS 2024 is a perfect example of kids and parents thinking that a strong 5th, 6th grade, and 7th grade team will persist into the years that matter. A former #1 team falling outside the top 10 when it matters while somehow inferior teams surpass them.

Even worse, the 24 NEMS coach will only look out for her daughter who is only the strongest player because she helped direct the supporting cast to get her the ball all the time. It will get worse as more clipboards appear on the fields.

Former # 1 team? You must be a Nems parent. They never won a tournament witht the top teams in it. Never remember them in playoffs at NGLL either. Their current middle school teams are average.

They were ranked #1 at one point this year….

Never saw that and not one person outside of Nems would believe they are the #1 team. They are #4 in Baltimore area at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

If your daughter isn't on Coppermine, why are you so concerned or quick to bash. You are welcome to stay with your established program, and hope that it continues on the right track inspite of a corperate take over and chris Robison leacving right when the 28s get into HS.

Nothing is garunteed. But, I can assure you regardless of the ne on the jersey college coaches will be watching the top teams in the country.

You must feel like such a big person to talk so much trash on kids. Please remember these are 10-12 year old girls you are talking about. Is there something that you could comment or contribute to help these coaches or teams grow and improve? DB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coppermine has zero history of recruiting, one really good team (28s) and their parents think the program is dominate?

They aren’t even close to be nems let alone a top tier program

Nems has multiple good / ranked teams 24s, 26s and 27s

But Tucker is coming…you are hoping a retired slightly above average coach is going to save the day and build a dynasty?

darn. Somebodies daddy is a little salty today. Would love to see your college resume as you call out someone so respected in the lax world.

Tucker is all-time winningest coach at Johns Hopkins with a 303-171 (.639) record in 28 seasons, including a 235-155 (.603) mark at the Division I level.

Honestly, is that an elite record? Especially when you are in the backyard of the some of the best players in the country

Would Coppermine 28 parents be thrilled w winning 6 out of 10 times?

Especially considering until they joined the big ten 6 or 7 years ago, many of those years were against subpar schedules.

She took Hopkins from D3 to D1

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

There has been a lot of talk the last few weeks about trying out for MandD, Coppermine, Skywalkers and Crush snd nothing about heros. I guess I am not totally surprised. After playing them twice, it isn't a program I would want to be a part of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

There has been a lot of talk the last few weeks about trying out for MandD, Coppermine, Skywalkers and Crush snd nothing about heros. I guess I am not totally surprised. After playing them twice, it isn't a program I would want to be a part of.

That team atmosphere, parents and parent coaching leave alot to be desired with the Heros team. Can't imagine they attract much talent. Plus they have tryouts starting Sunday night? More nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

There has been a lot of talk the last few weeks about trying out for MandD, Coppermine, Skywalkers and Crush snd nothing about heros. I guess I am not totally surprised. After playing them twice, it isn't a program I would want to be a part of.

Coppermine and Skywalkers have already added girls - how many spots will these teams even have left by tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

There has been a lot of talk the last few weeks about trying out for MandD, Coppermine, Skywalkers and Crush snd nothing about heros. I guess I am not totally surprised. After playing them twice, it isn't a program I would want to be a part of.

Coppermine and Skywalkers have already added girls - how many spots will these teams even have left by tryouts?

Maybe it depends on if the girls trying out are better than the already added girts? Not sure what hey would do if they already offered girls prior to trying out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of Heros chatter on here lately. Are they done adding after several BLC girls came over last year, or are they still looking to add more at tryouts? Haven't seen white play in a while, but will their best stick around on white or try for something else?

They would need to add quite a few impact players to compete with the other big 4. Right now they looks like the 5th team at best. They are far behind the talent of M&D, Coppermine, MDU and Crush. Plus you have the Heros parents dynamic that is there.

There has been a lot of talk the last few weeks about trying out for MandD, Coppermine, Skywalkers and Crush snd nothing about heros. I guess I am not totally surprised. After playing them twice, it isn't a program I would want to be a part of.

My daughter's team played them twice in close games and I can't imagine what you are talking about. Parents and coaches all seemed totally reasonable.

On the off chance that teams don't know before tryouts who they are selecting...

How long after tryouts can you typically expect to get notified? And do you only get notified if you make it? Or do they also let you know if you didn't?

Good luck to everyone at tryouts this week!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the off chance that teams don't know before tryouts who they are selecting...

How long after tryouts can you typically expect to get notified? And do you only get notified if you make it? Or do they also let you know if you didn't?

Within 48 hours, usually much sooner.

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Must be sending kids to a soccer tournament or a flopping clinic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the off chance that teams don't know before tryouts who they are selecting...

How long after tryouts can you typically expect to get notified? And do you only get notified if you make it? Or do they also let you know if you didn't?

Within 48 hours, usually much sooner.

I think how and when depends. You should ask if they haven't made it clear. You may hear sooner, but some clubs who hold tryouts this week and also have a tournament this weekend may wait until next week to finalize everything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Must be sending kids to a soccer tournament or a flopping clinic

Doesn't this ever get old? Maybe other teams should have more multi sport athletes so they can try to keep up with Coppermine. It's July and summer time, i'm sure all teams have families going on vacations or trips.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

That makes sense.. Thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

This. Plus changing the name will keep the result out of the clublax rankings.

It will be interesting to see what full dedicated lax players from crush tryout at SW,CM or M&D after hearing crush 26 is falling apart and showing longevity isn’t there. Do families go to a place they can grow with and stay a while?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

This. Plus changing the name will keep the result out of the clublax rankings.

Now you see why they are referred to as Coppermine**

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

This. Plus changing the name will keep the result out of the clublax rankings.

Thats a good point about ClubLax rankings. How much stock do ppl put into them? Legitimately asking...this is my oldest age year child so not sure how much these carry weight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

This. Plus changing the name will keep the result out of the clublax rankings.

Thats a good point about ClubLax rankings. How much stock do ppl put into them? Legitimately asking...this is my oldest age year child so not sure how much these carry weight.

At this age just bragging rights mostly.. I know that Coppermine Black has done a good amount of tournaments (6 I believe), so this would be their 7th. Maybe the tournament was optional for both blue and black due to being after tryouts, allowing families to have a vacation and giving the girls a break.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Mid Atlantic this coming weekend I noticed Coppermine has 28 black/blue team listed. Is this a hybrid of the two teams? Just curious

Camps, soccer, vacation, lots of kids have other things to do this time of year. A handful of blue team players guest play in tournaments for the black team when needed and I guess that is the case this weekend.

This. Plus changing the name will keep the result out of the clublax rankings.

Thats a good point about ClubLax rankings. How much stock do ppl put into them? Legitimately asking...this is my oldest age year child so not sure how much these carry weight.

Looking at all of the teams FB pages only M&D seems to care or post about rankings. Not saying that it’s good or bad- Just an observation to address this question above.

None from what I heard

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

Anyone know the approximate numbers at Skywalkers tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There may have been enough for more than 2 teams, but at least 5 girls won't accept a red roster spot, they will just stay at their current club if not offered black.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.

Crush 26 is done. Top players at other tryouts. 28 crush will be in same situation next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.

Crush 26 is done. Top players at other tryouts. 28 crush will be in same situation next summer.

I heard they had some decent prospects at tryouts. They can keep it together through middle school. Who knows about high school, but the 26 team isn't predictive of their future.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.[/quote]

Crush 26 is done. Top players at other tryouts. 28 crush will be in same situation next summer.[/quote]

I heard they had some decent prospects at tryouts. They can keep it together through middle school. Who knows about high school, but the 26 team isn't predictive of their future.[/quote]
They had some really good talent there last night. With a great coach at he helm it will be interesting to see how this team develops throughout the 22/23 lacrosse year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.

Agree that it is a frivolous thing to dispute, but it was possible to attend another tryout after MandD if you map it out.

But on a different note, don't you think girls choose their top choice of teams for the Day 1 Tryout? So the girls coming to only day 2 of M&D aren't confident they are getting an offer from where they went on Day 1. If you are all in on a team, it is risky to skip the 1st day of tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

There were maybe 40 total girls there, so would just be enough. Only overlap was Skywalkers of the major teams as Coppermine was at a later time.

This is a dense thing to argue about but I can tell you with complete certainty there will be girls splitting time at tryouts. M&Ds ended at 6 and Coppermine started at 630…Crush at 7. That’s hardly enough time to get where you’re going, get signed in, and ready to go.

Agree that it is a frivolous thing to dispute, but it was possible to attend another tryout after MandD if you map it out.

But on a different note, don't you think girls choose their top choice of teams for the Day 1 Tryout? So the girls coming to only day 2 of M&D aren't confident they are getting an offer from where they went on Day 1. If you are all in on a team, it is risky to skip the 1st day of tryouts.

Who knows what logic people use. Bottom line is they have enough for a red team if most girls don't decline for current team or whatever else. I guess only time will tell. Real question is whether the top teams got strong players to fill in their weaker/missing pieces. I include Skywalkers in that. Not sure if their summer additions are year round additions, but they've definitely gotten better. People want to nay-say but they may be only be a few good players away from really competing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

The rain out tonight might have put a wrinkle in a few of those plans

I think so too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

The rain out tonight might have put a wrinkle in a few of those plans

Some hard decisions being made today by those that were planning to go to day 2 of either Hero's, Skywalkers or Coppermine tonigjt after maybe going to M&D or Crush for 2 days. Now they are left with do they go to finish out with M&D or Crush and skip the Day 2 of the 3 others etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

The rain out tonight might have put a wrinkle in a few of those plans

Some hard decisions being made today by those that were planning to go to day 2 of either Hero's, Skywalkers or Coppermine tonigjt after maybe going to M&D or Crush for 2 days. Now they are left with do they go to finish out with M&D or Crush and skip the Day 2 of the 3 others etc.

Crush day 2 is Thursday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any surprises at tryouts so far? Any movement of some top players sighted at different teams? Will MDU and Crush stay together? Does M&D or Coppermine pick up impact players?

I thought there would be more girls at the M&D tryouts, especially since they are making 2 teams.

It looked like they had barely enough for 2 teams if they kept everyone there. Wonder if more show up today?

They definitely had more than enough for two teams, though who can say how many would be interested in red. Will be new girls at all tryouts tonight because overlapping tryout dates forced a lot of girls to do one night of each.

The rain out tonight might have put a wrinkle in a few of those plans

Some hard decisions being made today by those that were planning to go to day 2 of either Hero's, Skywalkers or Coppermine tonigjt after maybe going to M&D or Crush for 2 days. Now they are left with do they go to finish out with M&D or Crush and skip the Day 2 of the 3 others etc.

While I agree that the rain did force some hands and limit some options, I think that was only for a few girls who may have had the luxury of "choosing" between clubs. Anyone who gets cut from M&D black (or only offered a spot on red), would likely not make coppermine or heros green either. Skywalkers and crush have the most room on their roster and may be willing to take a player who doesn't make M&D after 2 days of tryouts

Skywalkers is desperate and would literally take anyone

Any news or standouts from any of the tryouts tonight? With almost all the top teams playing in Mid Atlantic this weekend, interested to see if any new additions make an appearance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any news or standouts from any of the tryouts tonight? With almost all the top teams playing in Mid Atlantic this weekend, interested to see if any new additions make an appearance.

M&D said they weren't letting girls know until the week of the 17th, so they probably won't have any new additions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any news or standouts from any of the tryouts tonight? With almost all the top teams playing in Mid Atlantic this weekend, interested to see if any new additions make an appearance.

M&D said they weren't letting girls know until the week of the 17th, so they probably won't have any new additions.

Probably good they are doing this so the current team can finish out the season. Looks like they don't play Eagle Stix in pool play. Should be some great competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D said they weren't letting girls know until the week of the 17th, so they probably won't have any new additions.

I hope all the clubs wait until next week to set their rosters or this weekend is going to be super awkward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D said they weren't letting girls know until the week of the 17th, so they probably won't have any new additions.

I hope all the clubs wait until next week to set their rosters or this weekend is going to be super awkward.

That is the downside of early tryouts for sure. The only way to solve that problem is make a universal tryout week in August.

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

M&D said they weren't letting girls know until the week of the 17th, so they probably won't have any new additions.

I hope all the clubs wait until next week to set their rosters or this weekend is going to be super awkward.

Yeah, that would be the right thing to do.

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

You mean their actual first tryout date?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

Is that even possible...how much stronger can they get! Definitely the Tucker Tune Up...might as well cancel the upcoming season!

Clearly not a Coppermine parent - give it a rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

M&D tryouts are over and offers are out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

M&D tryouts are over and offers are out.

How do we know offers are out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

M&D tryouts are over and offers are out.

How do we know offers are out?

Uh oh did someone not get the offer, what you going to do now?!?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

M&D tryouts are over and offers are out.

How do we know offers are out?

Uh oh did someone not get the offer, what you going to do now?!?!

No, someone is starting rumors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Hero’s seems far more likely than Coppermine for most people located in the MDU area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

M&D tryouts are over and offers are out.

How do we know offers are out?

Uh oh did someone not get the offer, what you going to do now?!?!

stay classy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Hero’s seems far more likely than Coppermine for most people located in the MDU area.

Were the top 3 MDU players at Hero's tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Hero’s seems far more likely than Coppermine for most people located in the MDU area.

Were the top 3 MDU players at Hero's tryouts?

Nope. No reason for a top-3 kid to move to a club further away when the club they are on is top-5. Now for the kids who aren't getting PT, makes sense to shop around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Hero’s seems far more likely than Coppermine for most people located in the MDU area.

Were the top 3 MDU players at Hero's tryouts?

Nope. No reason for a top-3 kid to move to a club further away when the club they are on is top-5. Now for the kids who aren't getting PT, makes sense to shop around.

Agree with this, especially when I'd rank MDU over Hero's.

Some parents are just attracted to the "Hero's" & "M&D" name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When will heros give their invites out?

Is MDU the only team left that hasn't had tryouts?

Will girls who are worried about making M&D red instead of black go to the MDU tryouts just to be safe?

MDU may be harder to break into as well as they all seem to be staying with MDU. Was interested to see if they may make a move to M&D or Coppermine.

Hero’s seems far more likely than Coppermine for most people located in the MDU area.

Were the top 3 MDU players at Hero's tryouts?

Nope. No reason for a top-3 kid to move to a club further away when the club they are on is top-5. Now for the kids who aren't getting PT, makes sense to shop around.

Agree with this, especially when I'd rank MDU over Hero's.

Problem is MDU is a low A club that doesnt get better when they get close to high school. Heros will always be in top
Brackets of best tournaments in front of best coaches. MDU will not.

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

It has been established that MDU and crush seemed to stay put, so where is the new strength supposed to be coming from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

lol - for boys maybe. Certainly not for girls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

It has been established that MDU and crush seemed to stay put, so where is the new strength supposed to be coming from?

FCA

Daughter had two offers, now it’s decision time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Coppermine is getting stronger!!! Those Tucker Tune Ups!!

It has been established that MDU and crush seemed to stay put, so where is the new strength supposed to be coming from?

FCA

That's only part of the acquisition equation but yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Teams don’t poach. Parents move to better clubs. Blame those parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter had two offers, now it’s decision time!

Which teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter had two offers, now it’s decision time!

Which teams?

Since there was no question asked, I assume this was just pointless bragging. If you were asking for help with your decision, I am sure people can offer advice, if the internet was just sharing your fortune, I hope one of the offers you are considering isn't my daughters team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

Carroll County has 17 state championships since 2008 between about 6 schools. 2 championships this year - 1A and 2A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

The point of that persons statement was even with the top top talent your beloved IAAM, those schools still have a lot of success based on the depth of talent in the area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

The point of that persons statement was even with the top top talent your beloved IAAM, those schools still have a lot of success based on the depth of talent in the area.

I understand her point, and understand that top players in AACO play for Baltimore area private schools. Yet for some weird reason neither the Annapolis-area IAAM schools and the area's top clubs are close to the same caliber as their Baltimore-area counterparts. It's because they have great players but no where near the depth of Baltimore.

I'm going to go on a limb and say the Baltimore area IAA schools pull from all over and the AACo IAAM schools prob pull 80% of team from that area and there are three schools they are going to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?[/quote]

Unless you are the parent/relative of this kid - how do you know where this kid lives? Creepy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

The Maryland Cup doesn’t even include 2028’s so I predict that tournament will have no impact on the competition at the Mid Atlantic for this year.

Have to agree, Carroll County or Howard County produce more girls talent than any other county in the state

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

The Maryland Cup doesn’t even include 2028’s so I predict that tournament will have no impact on the competition at the Mid Atlantic for this year.

Yeah, last I looked almost every top 2028 club/team will be at Mid Atlantic. The top 2 brackets are going to be a gauntlet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

Have you looked at the TSIC app for the Maryland Cup? If so, I am confused on your definition of "all the top teams" is.

1st there are no 28s in Maryland cup, and 2nd heros green is the only good Md team playing in the 27 division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

It's a lot easier to be at one venue when you have 1/3 the number of teams participating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to agree, Carroll County or Howard County produce more girls talent than any other county in the state

Facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

My predictions by pool (playoff qualifiers)

Pink: Eagle Stix, M&D
Green: Alliance CA
Orange: LBC
Purple: Hero's, Aces
Blue: Renegades

Semis: Hero's over M&D, Eagle Stix over Aces
Finals: Eagle Stix over Heros

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

College coaches care about the 28s? At mid Atlantic the college coaches can see the 24 class at one venue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

My predictions by pool (playoff qualifiers)

Pink: Eagle Stix, M&D
Green: Alliance CA
Orange: LBC
Purple: Hero's, Aces
Blue: Renegades

Semis: Hero's over M&D, Eagle Stix over Aces
Finals: Eagle Stix over Heros

Your colors for the top 2 are reversed.

Pink: Aces, Crush
Green: Orange Crush
Orange: YJ South
Purple: Eagle Stix, Coppermine
Blue: Renegades

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to agree, Carroll County or Howard County produce more girls talent than any other county in the state

Facts

The point is not Anne Arundel County, its Annapolis area. Anne Arundel County Pasadena North and South of Edgewater is not lacrosse areas.

8 mile radius from Severna Park at the north, Davidsonville to the south, Arnold to the East, Crofton to the West.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

My predictions by pool (playoff qualifiers)

Pink: Eagle Stix, M&D
Green: Alliance CA
Orange: LBC
Purple: Hero's, Aces
Blue: Renegades

Semis: Hero's over M&D, Eagle Stix over Aces
Finals: Eagle Stix over Heros

Your colors for the top 2 are reversed.

Pink: Aces, Crush
Green: Orange Crush
Orange: YJ South
Purple: Eagle Stix, Coppermine
Blue: Renegades

Alliance CA will beat orange crush, but at least 10. What's interesting in that group, though, is that Urban Elite will likely go undefeated as well. So the playoff spot will likely come down to GA.

Will be interesting to see if either team goes to a slowdown early as a result.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

Baltimore area / Towson and surrounding area. St Paul’s, McD’s, NDP and all of the other private schools. Now I understand the girls come from all over but majority are pretty close. Honestly the entire State, Long Island and quite a few other areas are all really talented.

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

Baltimore area / Towson and surrounding area. St Paul’s, McD’s, NDP and all of the other private schools. Now I understand the girls come from all over but majority are pretty close. Honestly the entire State, Long Island and quite a few other areas are all really talented.

Suffolk county is the most talented area for girls lacrosse by a mile.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?

Ok 2022 “top player on McDonogh” Coach Dad that has had to control all aspects of this kid’s game and PR her entire life! She is definitely NOT the #1 player in the nation BY FAR. She didn’t play that well these past two years but will continue to receive hype thanks to dear old Dad! She will be exposed next year at Maryland!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

Baltimore area / Towson and surrounding area. St Paul’s, McD’s, NDP and all of the other private schools. Now I understand the girls come from all over but majority are pretty close. Honestly the entire State, Long Island and quite a few other areas are all really talented.

Suffolk county is the most talented area for girls lacrosse by a mile.

There is 1.5 million people in Suffolk County NY.

I’m referring to a small 8 mile radius in AACo.

Some of you are really struggling with this concept.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?

Ok 2022 “top player on McDonogh” Coach Dad that has had to control all aspects of this kid’s game and PR her entire life! She is definitely NOT the #1 player in the nation BY FAR. She didn’t play that well these past two years but will continue to receive hype thanks to dear old Dad! She will be exposed next year at Maryland!

You sound a bit unhinged.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

I'm sure this occurs in some aspect for a few players and more so with "targets" attending practices or guesting in games prior to tryouts etc. However I don't think this is the case for most. Our DD just switched teams and no "arranged" deal was in place prior to tryouts. Went through the process and it all worked out. Just our experience but as we learned, you want to be seen as much as possible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?

Ok 2022 “top player on McDonogh” Coach Dad that has had to control all aspects of this kid’s game and PR her entire life! She is definitely NOT the #1 player in the nation BY FAR. She didn’t play that well these past two years but will continue to receive hype thanks to dear old Dad! She will be exposed next year at Maryland!

You sound a bit unhinged.

Totally unhinged. It’s the same troll who constantly bashes that family, McD, and M&D 2026.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell, but MDU 2022 was a top-10 team. They are a top-15 national club in the last US Lacrosse club rankings (not by grad year, overall).
They do all the major tournaments and have a great history of recruiting, outside of say Hero's M&D and Skywalkers, I don't think you can put another MD club ahead of them.
Being that M&D and Hero's constantly attempt to poach the players they develop year after year should speak to how they develop talent.

Likely more related to Annapolis area being the most talent laden area for lacrosse in the nation, it makes sense.

Rich people always want to think they are the best. Great players have come out of Naptown, but “most talent laden area for lacrosse in the national” just screams MOST PRIVILEGED lacrosse players in the nation.

There’s absolutely nothing to back that statement, ESPECIALLY on the girls side of the game.

5 miles in any direction of Annapolis, most talent rich area in the nation. Disagree? Name another area.

Nothing to back up that statement? 14 state championships between Broadneck, South River, SP in 20 years since 2001.

Fun debate, what other place would you put in front of the Annapolis area?

Baltimore area / Towson and surrounding area. St Paul’s, McD’s, NDP and all of the other private schools. Now I understand the girls come from all over but majority are pretty close. Honestly the entire State, Long Island and quite a few other areas are all really talented.

Suffolk county is the most talented area for girls lacrosse by a mile.

There is 1.5 million people in Suffolk County NY.

I’m referring to a small 8 mile radius in AACo.

Some of you are really struggling with this concept.

I’m sure an 8 mile radius around mt Sinai , NY would yield just just as much talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol @ state championships for Broadneck, South River and SP since 2001 - not one of those teams could beat the top 5 in the IAAM in their championship years.

Baltimore & Long Island are more talent rich

Sir or Maa'm, The IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over a region can attend, that comparison does not make any logical sense.

As for the "Baltimore" & Long Island argument, Long Island is nearly 100 miles long. Baltimore is a city of 600K, so I am not sure you are talking about a part of the city or including anything around the city in your statement.

I think how you can now realize the lack of logic in your reply.

I'd make the argument Ellicott City and that area would give Annapolis a run.

Yes, I'm aware that the IAAM is a private school league where kids from all over the region can attend. When was the last time an Annapolis area team (Severn, STM, Spalding) was competitive in the IAAM? Maybe Spalding a little this year?

The top player on McDonough (according to Inside Lacrosse who ranks her as #1 in the nation) lives 8 miles from Annapolis. You are missing the logic, McDonough beating St Mary's does not prove your point. How many kids on McDonough are from Owings Mills area?

Ok 2022 “top player on McDonogh” Coach Dad that has had to control all aspects of this kid’s game and PR her entire life! She is definitely NOT the #1 player in the nation BY FAR. She didn’t play that well these past two years but will continue to receive hype thanks to dear old Dad! She will be exposed next year at Maryland!

You have to get near the field to be exposed.

Don’t sleep on Kent County! Talent pool is deep! Big investor funneling money into new club. TBD!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

There's more movement than what's posted on here. All will find out soon enough....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to agree, Carroll County or Howard County produce more girls talent than any other county in the state

You all have been drinking too much of the Kool-Aid. Queen Anne’s county has the best players in girls lacrosse. Go home and sleep it off.

Can you name multiple Tewaaraton winners from your county? If not, you're not in the conversation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

There's more movement than what's posted on here. All will find out soon enough....

Why so secretive? Tryouts are over? Who is benefiting from this movement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you name multiple Tewaaraton winners from your county? If not, you're not in the conversation.

Howard Countt probably has the best pool

Some good matchups today at Mid Atlantic, hopefully the rain holds out! Aces with a big win yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can you name multiple Tewaaraton winners from your county? If not, you're not in the conversation.

The success of two players does not invalidate the steady flow of good D1 players year after year.

One really has nothing to do with other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

There's more movement than what's posted on here. All will find out soon enough....

Why so secretive? Tryouts are over? Who is benefiting from this movement?

wait till Monday. A good amount of movement, but nowhere near what some people expected. Most of the top teams taking 3-5 new players, not the 7-10 that some folks expected.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

There's more movement than what's posted on here. All will find out soon enough....

Why so secretive? Tryouts are over? Who is benefiting from this movement?

After what happened to the M&D 2026 team last year. This year they are waiting to tell players their status.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

College coaches care about the 28s? At mid Atlantic the college coaches can see the 24 class at one venue.

Can’t wait for parents to realize college coaches don’t give a F about girls until going into 10th grade and it really picks up the following summer (going into 11th)

All the middle school showcases are a joke and money grab

Most coaches think parents are clowns

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that girl stays with Coppermine that team is going to be very tough to beat when they are fully healthy and that’s not counting anyone that gets added during tryouts

They would be a very good team and yes, hard to beat. However, slow down on handing out trophies. The others will be bringing in some top players as well, including some surprises

This^ I know a team that already secured a “surprise talent”. An impact player stuck on a very bad team that may debut during the Mid Atlantic!

It's mid Atlantic weekend? Where is the big surprise debut?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, no one left MDU or Crush? We have only heard of an FCA girl on Coppermine. Is this really the only movement? The rest of the teams will remain primarily the same? Seems off from all the potential movement talk a few weeks back.

Everything is arranged well in advance of tryouts. They are pointless except to fill up B teams, get rid of some problems and get everyone agitated.

Im not debating the validity of tryouts. I am saying there was supposedely going to be a decent amount of movement and pick ups. Tryouts or not, there still was no movement other than the FCA girl that was referenced a few threads back?

There's more movement than what's posted on here. All will find out soon enough....

Why so secretive? Tryouts are over? Who is benefiting from this movement?

After what happened to the M&D 2026 team last year. This year they are waiting to tell players their status.

Girls were absolutely told their status after tryouts. Red currently trying to fill the team with girls that did not tryout and were cut from other Lower A/B teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Mid Atlantic Predictions for this weekend? Will be lots of good teams and some great games! Good luck to all!

I predict the Mid Atlantic is going to be far less competitive this year based on many of the best clubs playing at the Maryland Cup. Having one venue with multiple children makes so much sense rather than the 7 different venues that Mid Atlantic has to offer. It makes it easier on college coaches as well. Good luck to all teams in both tournaments.

College coaches care about the 28s? At mid Atlantic the college coaches can see the 24 class at one venue.

Can’t wait for parents to realize college coaches don’t give a F about girls until going into 10th grade and it really picks up the following summer (going into 11th)

All the middle school showcases are a joke and money grab

Most coaches think parents are clowns

I agree with 98% of this. If an underage girl really impress at camp, the coach will write her name down and maybe ask her to register on their propect website. However, all it means that is this kid will get on their radar -- nowhere close to an offer

I do think it makes sense to do a showcase or two as an 8th grader -- just to understand how they work, but it should be more for development than exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some good matchups today at Mid Atlantic, hopefully the rain holds out! Aces with a big win yesterday.

Looks like the best was saved for last, M&D, Skywalkers, Aces and Eagle Stix. Eagle Stix on top over Aces. Big weekends for M&D and Skywalkers (Skywalkers looks strong!). Some surprising results in the top 2 brackets.

Ace's Elite parents are the worst parents of all the teams I've every watched. Not a big fan of the coaches either, always cheating with substitutions, offsides, etc.

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ace's Elite parents are the worst parents of all the teams I've every watched. Not a big fan of the coaches either, always cheating with substitutions, offsides, etc.

We played against Ace’s Elite 2028 team and I thought the parents were not any different than parents of other teams we played. I do think there is entirely too much “coaching” by parent spectators. I am all for cheering and encouragement, but shouting instructions to one’s child can only distract the child and may be in conflict with the instructions from the team’s actual coaches. This observation applies to the parents of every team we played and in no way is directed solely to Ace’s Elite parents. In fact Ace’s Elite parents weren’t as guilty as most.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

Great comment!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

Also agree with this. I'm sure there are always a few select bad ones and bad behavior but for the most part it's pretty calm and normal. Some good games this weekend for sure. Its great seeing Aces and Eagle Stix continue to travel and come to the big tourneys, they provide a great level of competition. Congrats to Eagle Stix on the Win!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

Also agree with this. I'm sure there are always a few select bad ones and bad behavior but for the most part it's pretty calm and normal. Some good games this weekend for sure. Its great seeing Aces and Eagle Stix continue to travel and come to the big tourneys, they provide a great level of competition. Congrats to Eagle Stix on the Win!

It was a very good weekend of Lacrosse. Thankfully it wasn't a wash out! Congrats to all the teams that participated and to the Eagle Stix for winning the championship. I was able to meet parents from different teams from different state (Georgia, Colorado, California, etc.) and all of them were positive and overall very nice people. Pretty much happy to be there to compete to find out how they stacked up. The only complaint we heard was the fields were not the best. Looking forward to the fall and another competitive season. Its good the game is growing.

It appears to me that there has been very little, if any, movement of the top girls on the top 6 teams to new teams. Some movement of players on mid tier teams to top teams and some movement of supporting players on top teams to other clubs but overall I don’t see a cataclysmic shift here impacting the current balance of power. Anyone know something different?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It appears to me that there has been very little, if any, movement of the top girls on the top 6 teams to new teams. Some movement of players on mid tier teams to top teams and some movement of supporting players on top teams to other clubs but overall I don’t see a cataclysmic shift here impacting the current balance of power. Anyone know something different?

A few of the top teams definitely got stronger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

College coaches will not scout anyone until around 10th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great weekend of lacrosse once again in the Maryland area. Congrats to Eagle Stix on winning and to all the out of state teams making the trip. Watched a good bit of the games while waiting for our next ones to start. I am really not sure why there is so much animonsity and resentment towards other teams. Most of the parents of these players played lacrosse at this age and we all should be enjoying watching the game we all grew up playing and loving. There are talented girls on every team, and dedicated coaches committing their time and energy to the growth of our daughters. Do they get caught up in the games sometimes, sure…but so do most of us! To say these parents are the worst, I dislike that coach…come on. The season is long as you may have only seen a team once or twice that you played this weekend…and you are throwing judgement at a team / club while watching a small subset of their season.
The girls are young and I did not see any college scouts at Franklin HS this weekend. Congrats to those that won and great job to those that played their best and came up short.

College coaches will not scout anyone until around 10th grade.

I agree. The only times that I have seen college coaches/scouts around 7th grade girls is when the younger girls happen to be playing on a field near older girls teams. The coaches/scouts are there to observe/recruit the older girls and not the 2028s.

Yeah…we know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah…we know

Eh, some delusional people on here. Do they know?

Any word if M&D sent out notifications yet? Guessing final rosters will be done this week. Did Crush stay in tact? How does Skywalkers fare in the fall?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word if M&D sent out notifications yet? Guessing final rosters will be done this week. Did Crush stay in tact? How does Skywalkers fare in the fall?

Heard Skywalkers picked up the best from Legends and a couple more from Coppermine this year again. Not sure if they were starters but nice to say they got girls from the top ranked team in the country. Their results from this past weekend were impressive. Not sure about Crush but did see SW tied Crush. Still think Coppermine and M&D are the top 2 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word if M&D sent out notifications yet? Guessing final rosters will be done this week. Did Crush stay in tact? How does Skywalkers fare in the fall?

Heard Skywalkers picked up the best from Legends and a couple more from Coppermine this year again. Not sure if they were starters but nice to say they got girls from the top ranked team in the country. Their results from this past weekend were impressive. Not sure about Crush but did see SW tied Crush. Still think Coppermine and M&D are the top 2 teams.

Not sure or don't think the 2 that left Coppermine for SWB were starters, but who knows. Looked like SWB got better with their tie against Crush. Coppermine and M&D both picked up some key talent so they both got stronger for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word if M&D sent out notifications yet? Guessing final rosters will be done this week. Did Crush stay in tact? How does Skywalkers fare in the fall?

Heard Skywalkers picked up the best from Legends and a couple more from Coppermine this year again. Not sure if they were starters but nice to say they got girls from the top ranked team in the country. Their results from this past weekend were impressive. Not sure about Crush but did see SW tied Crush. Still think Coppermine and M&D are the top 2 teams.

Not sure or don't think the 2 that left Coppermine for SWB were starters, but who knows. Looked like SWB got better with their tie against Crush. Coppermine and M&D both picked up some key talent so they both got stronger for sure.

SWB had a good midatlantic. Only lost to Eagle Stix by 1 in the semis it looks like after a good showing in pool play. Anyone see them play last weekend?

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

Tourney Machine is your friend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

They had a “mixed” team of the A&B teams but when I was watching them lose and miss the playoffs it was their A team on the field. They just wanted to preserve their US Lacrosse ranking. They don’t call them Coppermine** for nothing.

How much goalie movement was there?

MDU ----> Hero's Green

That's all I know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

They had a “mixed” team of the A&B teams but when I was watching them lose and miss the playoffs it was their A team on the field. They just wanted to preserve their US Lacrosse ranking. They don’t call them Coppermine** for nothing.

Probably couldn't watch your own kid's team get smashed. So what do you do with the Camo green t shirt all winter? Wish you won more games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

They had a “mixed” team of the A&B teams but when I was watching them lose and miss the playoffs it was their A team on the field. They just wanted to preserve their US Lacrosse ranking. They don’t call them Coppermine** for nothing.

Probably couldn't watch your own kid's team get smashed. So what do you do with the Camo green t shirt all winter? Wish you won more games?

What does this comment mean? Who wears camo green?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How much goalie movement was there?

MDU ----> Hero's Green

That's all I know.

Not true. MDU goalies stayed the same. Black added the Integrity goalie as a second goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any word if M&D sent out notifications yet? Guessing final rosters will be done this week. Did Crush stay in tact? How does Skywalkers fare in the fall?

Heard Skywalkers picked up the best from Legends and a couple more from Coppermine this year again. Not sure if they were starters but nice to say they got girls from the top ranked team in the country. Their results from this past weekend were impressive. Not sure about Crush but did see SW tied Crush. Still think Coppermine and M&D are the top 2 teams.

The 2 from Coppermine are on M&D Red.

Skywalkers picked up one midfielder for their summer season. They all just got better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Coppermine did this past weekend?

They had a “mixed” team of the A&B teams but when I was watching them lose and miss the playoffs it was their A team on the field. They just wanted to preserve their US Lacrosse ranking. They don’t call them Coppermine** for nothing.

Probably couldn't watch your own kid's team get smashed. So what do you do with the Camo green t shirt all winter? Wish you won more games?

What does this comment mean? Who wears camo green?

I'd guess the reference is to the Heros crew, they always get the top slot for fan behavior.

Has anyone gotten roster info for au futures next week?

Looks like M&D rosters are posted. Will anyone else’s be any time soon?

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

Where are the AU rosters posted? Doesn't look like they're on the AU website - were they emailed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the AU rosters posted? Doesn't look like they're on the AU website - were they emailed?

Agree, the price stayed the same from last year to this year with going from 2 1/2 days down to 1 day at best. The combination of years doesn't help the younger age group.

Rosters were emailed if you are participating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

It’s just frustrating because it’s not at all what they advertised. And like was mentioned, price stayed the same regardless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

It’s just frustrating because it’s not at all what they advertised. And like was mentioned, price stayed the same regardless.

Money grab

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

It’s just frustrating because it’s not at all what they advertised. And like was mentioned, price stayed the same regardless.

You get what you pay for. The coaching is really strong so you have to pay up for that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

It’s just frustrating because it’s not at all what they advertised. And like was mentioned, price stayed the same regardless.

You get what you pay for. The coaching is really strong so you have to pay up for that.

The coaching last year was hit or miss, so not sure where that assessment comes from. Some pros were great and others couldn't be bothered. Supposedly 1 pro is assigned to each team for all the games this year so that may help.

The concept and idea of it is really good but the execution still seems to be lacking. With more regions than teams, it may make sense to just mix up all the teams and allow the girls to meet others from all areas and have some fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

I won't be doing it next year, I can tell you that much. Not for that price. I get the region aspect, and that's cool, but its going to be mostly blow outs. Also mixing 2029 and 2028 is not good either

It’s just frustrating because it’s not at all what they advertised. And like was mentioned, price stayed the same regardless.

You get what you pay for. The coaching is really strong so you have to pay up for that.

Is it? Very little one on one coaching and if the coaches on the team are the same as lastyear, they just sub in and out.

You get what you pay for. The coaching is really strong so you have to pay up for that.[/quote]

Is it? Very little one on one coaching and if the coaches on the team are the same as lastyear, they just sub in and out.[/quote]
I was hoping they were being sarcastic...not sure what kind of "coaching" you can get in a format like this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Did they manage to split them pretty evenly?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Did they manage to split them pretty evenly?

Not even close. Energy is incredibly strong and will likely win. Impact definitely behind the LI team and probably behind the NJ team too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Did they manage to split them pretty evenly?

Not even close. Energy is incredibly strong and will likely win. Impact definitely behind the LI team and probably behind the NJ team too.

Wrong age group, none of the 28/29 teams are named those.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Did they manage to split them pretty evenly?

Not even close. Energy is incredibly strong and will likely win. Impact definitely behind the LI team and probably behind the NJ team too.

Wrong forum- those are not the names of the 28/29 teams. I think it will depend on the girls at 2029 bc there are more 2029’s than 2028’s on each team.

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AU rosters and teams are out. Looks like 2 MD teams. They really cut down the schedule and it's mostly just games now. Interested to see if this event survives

Did they manage to split them pretty evenly?

Not even close. Energy is incredibly strong and will likely win. Impact definitely behind the LI team and probably behind the NJ team too.

What teams are you referring to with energy and impact? Those aren't even 28 teams at AU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Lists are alphabetical order with 2028 and then restart for the 2029. It is close but a couple more 2029’s on each team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Lists are alphabetical order with 2028 and then restart for the 2029. It is close but a couple more 2029’s on each team.

That's not correct, at least not for the first 3 teams in the list. The restart of those teams are still all 28s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Lists are alphabetical order with 2028 and then restart for the 2029. It is close but a couple more 2029’s on each team.

That's not correct, at least not for the first 3 teams in the list. The restart of those teams are still all 28s.

With all due respect, it’s seems like those of you that have kids participating in AU should just start your own thread. The rest of us have no idea what you’re speaking about without seeing rosters etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Lists are alphabetical order with 2028 and then restart for the 2029. It is close but a couple more 2029’s on each team.

That's not correct, at least not for the first 3 teams in the list. The restart of those teams are still all 28s.

With all due respect, it’s seems like those of you that have kids participating in AU should just start your own thread. The rest of us have no idea what you’re speaking about without seeing rosters etc.

I tthought it was just me that had no clue abou what was being discussed. Also, what's the big deal about who is on what team at a camp?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those must be teams on 1 because there is no Team Energy or Impact. The teams are Destiny, Thrive, Fight, Spirit, Inspiration, Prospect, and Relentless.

Teams Destiny and Fight look loaded. Would be surprised that there are more 29s than 28s playing.

Lists are alphabetical order with 2028 and then restart for the 2029. It is close but a couple more 2029’s on each team.

That's not correct, at least not for the first 3 teams in the list. The restart of those teams are still all 28s.

With all due respect, it’s seems like those of you that have kids participating in AU should just start your own thread. The rest of us have no idea what you’re speaking about without seeing rosters etc.

I tthought it was just me that had no clue abou what was being discussed. Also, what's the big deal about who is on what team at a camp?

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.

[/quote]

With all due respect, it’s seems like those of you that have kids participating in AU should just start your own thread. The rest of us have no idea what you’re speaking about without seeing rosters etc.[/quote]
I tthought it was just me that had no clue abou what was being discussed. Also, what's the big deal about who is on what team at a camp?[/quote]

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.[/quote]

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.[/quote]

It very well may be a money grab, but its not about the potential interaction with college coaches, it is about the possibility of getting to interact with the pros and the women they look up to. There aren't many opportunities for girls to see the women they see on TV in person, so it is definitely a cool concept for the younger girls. Lacks some execution, but the idea is great. So your comment is dead wrong that people attending it are thinking about recruiting. Quite the opposite. Let them be little and enjoy their "fan girl" moments with the pros while they are still into that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

With all due respect, it’s seems like those of you that have kids participating in AU should just start your own thread. The rest of us have no idea what you’re speaking about without seeing rosters etc.

I tthought it was just me that had no clue abou what was being discussed. Also, what's the big deal about who is on what team at a camp?[/quote]

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.[/quote]

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.[/quote]

It very well may be a money grab, but its not about the potential interaction with college coaches, it is about the possibility of getting to interact with the pros and the women they look up to. There aren't many opportunities for girls to see the women they see on TV in person, so it is definitely a cool concept for the younger girls. Lacks some execution, but the idea is great. So your comment is dead wrong that people attending it are thinking about recruiting. Quite the opposite. Let them be little and enjoy their "fan girl" moments with the pros while they are still into that.[/quote]
I think you offer a great reason for girls to attend a camp. Satisfying a girls dream is admirable. However, the comments from parents that led to the "recruitment" comment more closely align with their daughters' opportunities and less with their daughters enjoyment. Just saying!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.

It very well may be a money grab, but its not about the potential interaction with college coaches, it is about the possibility of getting to interact with the pros and the women they look up to. There aren't many opportunities for girls to see the women they see on TV in person, so it is definitely a cool concept for the younger girls. Lacks some execution, but the idea is great. So your comment is dead wrong that people attending it are thinking about recruiting. Quite the opposite. Let them be little and enjoy their "fan girl" moments with the pros while they are still into that.

Well said. Let the kids be kids and enjoy something different. This is no different than American Select or UA that everyone loves here. Getting a chance to see or work with the pros will be something they can enjoy and talk about.

Ignore the haters here, they complain and whine and put down everything here. They are miserable for other people's success and envious of others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.

It very well may be a money grab, but its not about the potential interaction with college coaches, it is about the possibility of getting to interact with the pros and the women they look up to. There aren't many opportunities for girls to see the women they see on TV in person, so it is definitely a cool concept for the younger girls. Lacks some execution, but the idea is great. So your comment is dead wrong that people attending it are thinking about recruiting. Quite the opposite. Let them be little and enjoy their "fan girl" moments with the pros while they are still into that.

Well said. Let the kids be kids and enjoy something different. This is no different than American Select or UA that everyone loves here. Getting a chance to see or work with the pros will be something they can enjoy and talk about.

Ignore the haters here, they complain and whine and put down everything here. They are miserable for other people's success and envious of others.

It may be true in some instances that people are envious and miserable for other’s success, but not when it comes to AU Futures. Everyone who tried out for this event was invited, so nothing to envy. Overly cynical and judgmental is probably more accurate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shhhh. You're gonna get all the parents that wasted hundreds on a camp thinking Cathy Reese is gonna offer a scholarship to them offended.

It very well may be a money grab, but its not about the potential interaction with college coaches, it is about the possibility of getting to interact with the pros and the women they look up to. There aren't many opportunities for girls to see the women they see on TV in person, so it is definitely a cool concept for the younger girls. Lacks some execution, but the idea is great. So your comment is dead wrong that people attending it are thinking about recruiting. Quite the opposite. Let them be little and enjoy their "fan girl" moments with the pros while they are still into that.

Well said. Let the kids be kids and enjoy something different. This is no different than American Select or UA that everyone loves here. Getting a chance to see or work with the pros will be something they can enjoy and talk about.

Ignore the haters here, they complain and whine and put down everything here. They are miserable for other people's success and envious of others.

Additionally, it is about your daughter meeting and playing with other girls. Whether you believe it or not, true friendships are formed during these camps. Let them enjoy it and have fun!

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall seasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

I heard Coppermine added 5 or 6 and only dropped 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

I heard Coppermine added 5 or 6 and only dropped 2.

3 and a 2nd goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Any news on M&D additions etc?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Are the new rosters out for Heros on their website? Are any other team rosters available?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Any news on M&D additions etc?

Their rosters have been posted for a while. 2028 black Roster down from 23 to 19, while adding 2 field players and a 2nd goalie. They will have a red team next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Two week ago posters were very cryptic about new rosters saying "you'll find out" about all the movement at tryouts after MidAtlantic....but then there was no big reveal. Coppermine was talking a big game (or were they Coppermine trolls?), sounded like Skywalkers probably added quite a few, but that was it. Anything else of note from tryouts? Sounds like the same 5 teams are going to neck-and-neck next year if none lost players...with the potential addition of a sixth (Skywalkers).

Sounds to me like things stayes pretty much the same. Top 5 probably all added an impact player or 2, so match-ups will be similar this year. And yes, assuming Skywalkers summer additions stick around through the fall season.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Are the new rosters out for Heros on their website? Are any other team rosters available?

M&D and Hero's are updated. Don't see anything for MDU, Skywalkers or Coppermine yet.

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.[/quote]

Are the new rosters out for Heros on their website? Are any other team rosters available?[/quote]

M&D and Hero's are updated. Don't see anything for MDU, Skywalkers or Coppermine yet.[/quote]

How about Crush? The experts on here said the team was gonna lose all their talented players...any news on their roster? Did they lose or gain any talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Hero's Green picked up 5 new players. Wonder where the movement came from.

Are the new rosters out for Heros on their website? Are any other team rosters available?[/quote]

M&D and Hero's are updated. Don't see anything for MDU, Skywalkers or Coppermine yet.[/quote]

How about Crush? The experts on here said the team was gonna lose all their talented players...any news on their roster? Did they lose or gain any talent?[/quote]

Unless some of the Crush players went to Hero's or Skywalkers, don't think there was much change. M&D and Coppermine definitely added impact players.

Did the forum get locked down again?

No?

I hope it has no been locked down. I can't understand why it was/is ever locked down. The moderator has control over what is/is not posted, If a comment is offensive enough to cause a lockdown, the moderator should simply not apprve the comment to begin with.

Seems like someone was making specific complaints. If you look at some of the other threads, they are way more off the rails than this one ever was.

Congrats to both MD teams for making it to the finals at the AU futures camp. Virginia came in 3rd, so the DMV region represented itself well.

Agree, lots and lots of talent in the Mid Atlantic. All 3 teams led the way and were full of good players.

Now break time until the new additions debut in the fall.

Did we ever hear final movement or additions to MDU, Heros and Crush? I know we said M&D added 3 Coppermine added 3 and a goaile. It doesn't seem like there was really any movement between the top, but any big pick ups from A- or B teams?

M&D and Coppermine's additions all came from Lower A teams or top B teams and most of them were the top 1-2 players from those teams. Looks like from rosters, Hero's Green added a good amount of new players.

Heros Green picked up a girl that was held back in 6th grade specifically for lacrosse.

Why is it not surprising that a holdback goes to Hero's. They still have a long way to go to compete with M&D, Coppermine and MDU.

Holding back in 6th grade is definitely deliberate, but I think you are misrepresenting most of the "hold backs" on some of the other teams. Birth year alone does not tell the whole story. If you are born after Sept. 30th, you aren’t allowed to enroll in kindergarten. So while someone born in October, November or December may have an advantage of being 9 months older, they are not breaking the rules...they are actually following them. Just because you see 2012 as a birth year for a 2028 does not mean they reclassified.

This girl is a definite holdback in 6th grade for lacrosse. Two years ago she tried out for 2027 Green and didn’t make it. She was on Renegades 27 this year. Her sister did the same thing. She was on Heros White 2025, repeated 8th grade, and is now on M&D black 2026.

I was not doubting the holdback status of the girl on Heros, rather saying that the 2nd half of the comment about players on the other top teams is often misconstrued

Understood. My daughter is an early October birthday, so totally get that point!

Sounds like a problem in the making. Then again should feel right at home with Heros.

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Who was Skywalkers able to add to the roster? People said they had a lot at tryouts. If they got some good additions, I think they'd at least be in competition with the top 5. Sounds like Skywalkers 27 got significantly better as well. I's starting to look like those who said poor-performing Skywalker's teams would improve with age were right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Not sure about Crush “ imploding”, but I do know they got stronger!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Not sure about Crush “ imploding”, but I do know they got stronger!

Teams getting "stronger" has been referenced multiple times after tryouts. These girls didn't come out of thin air, so some teams have to be weaker as a result. Will NGLL be even more lopsided this year? And don't they add more teams to A at this age level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Not sure about Crush “ imploding”, but I do know they got stronger!

They still aren't close to beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU. Keep trying though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the Hero's additions push them up into the Top 3 this year? Does Skywalkers continue to get better and better with a strong summer? How long before Crush implodes?

Not sure about Crush “ imploding”, but I do know they got stronger!

They still aren't close to beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU. Keep trying though.

Wow, the poster didn't state anything about beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU...only stated that they think they got stronger. I think a few teams got stronger by adding top players from lower level teams. Should make for an interesting Spring season.

"They still aren't close to beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU. Keep trying though."

No dog in the fight, but they literally tied Coppermine in LLL.
Lost to MDU TWICE by one goal.

I think a little reality check is in order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"They still aren't close to beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU. Keep trying though."

No dog in the fight, but they literally tied Coppermine in LLL.
Lost to MDU TWICE by one goal.

I think a little reality check is in order.

Didn't Crush lose by a good amount to Coppermine in the Championship at Summer Genesis Origins?

The Top teams all took the top 1-3 players from lower level A/top B teams to get better. So the top teams all got better while weakening a lot of the lower level teams in NGLL A and top ones in B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"They still aren't close to beating M&D, Coppermine or MDU. Keep trying though."

No dog in the fight, but they literally tied Coppermine in LLL.
Lost to MDU TWICE by one goal.

I think a little reality check is in order.

Crush has also won against M&D, Eaglestix, and Aces. It's incorrect to say they can't beat top teams. If anything, you might argue they are inconsistent. But as others have pointed out, there are new players on all the teams. And this year is a big age for growth and development for all girls, so we may see some players come out stronger this year, while others level off.

Does seem likely the top 5 will continue to trade wins and losses, and you may be able to add Skywalkers to the mix. Though things are still lopsided (as PP pointed out, low level A and B teams lost important players) at least there are 4-6 competitive teams, as opposed to other age groups that have 2 or 3 consistently sitting at the top.

But the inconsistency of Crush is the issue.Silly. New players on a team mean nothing. The track record of the team with the same players is what matters so it is Aces. The argument of on the come usually results in disappointment. Best teams keep playing year in and year out with an addition or two.

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

I believe CCLax has to move to A with them winning B. They won't win a game in A. Hero's White should stay in B.

Limelight and Stars belong more in B but hard to move back from A. Stars 2 best players left this summer and moved to top 5 Maryland teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

Cclax will definitely move up as winners of B bracket, but they will fare no better than stars or limelight did last year. I don't think stars and limelight can move down. The 27s had 15 teams in A. If that is the case, stars and limelight will have to stay in A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

I believe CCLax has to move to A with them winning B. They won't win a game in A. Hero's White should stay in B.

Limelight and Stars belong more in B but hard to move back from A. Stars 2 best players left this summer and moved to top 5 Maryland teams.

CClax will not be winless in A. They played well at the end of the year including tying HOCO and beating Stars twice. Those two teams lost multiple players where CClax did not lose anyone. They will not challenge the top 5/6 but will be in the mix with all the teams after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

I believe CCLax has to move to A with them winning B. They won't win a game in A. Hero's White should stay in B.

Limelight and Stars belong more in B but hard to move back from A. Stars 2 best players left this summer and moved to top 5 Maryland teams.

CClax will not be winless in A. They played well at the end of the year including tying HOCO and beating Stars twice. Those two teams lost multiple players where CClax did not lose anyone. They will not challenge the top 5/6 but will be in the mix with all the teams after that.

Don't see them beating Pride or maybe Next Level but they could sneak in some wins against those teams mentioned. I'm guessing HOCO lost players to Hero's?

Anyone know what's going on with NEMS? All of their older teams are in the A league....will they try to get back in the A?

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

Its likely Hero's White who will move up. Ideally its an even number anyways, so 7 in a division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

All 3 of those B teams lost players in some fashion, but Hero's White may be the best option to move to A. Renegades lost several players to M&D. NEMS and Integrity wouldn't move up, so out of default Hero's white as don't see Coppermine Blue moving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

All 3 of those B teams lost players in some fashion, but Hero's White may be the best option to move to A. Renegades lost several players to M&D. NEMS and Integrity wouldn't move up, so out of default Hero's white as don't see Coppermine Blue moving.

Yes, all of those teams lost players, as well as stars, and fca. But if the formula stays in place for a 6 team play off, 2 more teams need to join A and no one can drop back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

All 3 of those B teams lost players in some fashion, but Hero's White may be the best option to move to A. Renegades lost several players to M&D. NEMS and Integrity wouldn't move up, so out of default Hero's white as don't see Coppermine Blue moving.

Doubting there is requirement to get to a certain number of teams in "A", 2027 that's just how it worked out. I think Heros White and Coppermine Blue both stay to have representation in both "A" and "B" for those two clubs. CcLax will be fine in "A" and competitive in most games. They can beat any of the teams outside of the top 6 listed here and be competitive enough with the top 6 to produce some good games there too, maybe even score an upset or two.

[/quote]

Doubting there is requirement to get to a certain number of teams in "A", 2027 that's just how it worked out. I think Heros White and Coppermine Blue both stay to have representation in both "A" and "B" for those two clubs. CcLax will be fine in "A" and competitive in most games. They can beat any of the teams outside of the top 6 listed here and be competitive enough with the top 6 to produce some good games there too, maybe even score an upset or two.[/quote]

I don't think they will be any better than any of the other 6-9 teams. They tied hoco and next level and lost to FCA this summer. The only A team they beat was stars. So they will be right there in the middle of the pack group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

All 3 of those B teams lost players in some fashion, but Hero's White may be the best option to move to A. Renegades lost several players to M&D. NEMS and Integrity wouldn't move up, so out of default Hero's white as don't see Coppermine Blue moving.

Doubting there is requirement to get to a certain number of teams in "A", 2027 that's just how it worked out. I think Heros White and Coppermine Blue both stay to have representation in both "A" and "B" for those two clubs. CcLax will be fine in "A" and competitive in most games. They can beat any of the teams outside of the top 6 listed here and be competitive enough with the top 6 to produce some good games there too, maybe even score an upset or two.

We will see how this ages. I don't see CClax coming within 5 goals of any of the Top 6 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If there are 15 like the 27s had last year I don't think anyone can move down. Even with cclax moving up as the B winner there still needs to be 2 more teams added.

1. M&D
2. Coppermine
3. MD United
4. Heros Green
5. Crush
6. Skywalkers
7. Next Level
8. Pride
9. Hoco
10. FCA
11. Stars
12. Limelight
13. Cclax
14.
15.

Nems went 4-4 in B, so it won't be them. Heros white went 8-0, Coppermine Blue went 7-1, and Renegades went 6-2.

All 3 of those B teams lost players in some fashion, but Hero's White may be the best option to move to A. Renegades lost several players to M&D. NEMS and Integrity wouldn't move up, so out of default Hero's white as don't see Coppermine Blue moving.

Doubting there is requirement to get to a certain number of teams in "A", 2027 that's just how it worked out. I think Heros White and Coppermine Blue both stay to have representation in both "A" and "B" for those two clubs. CcLax will be fine in "A" and competitive in most games. They can beat any of the teams outside of the top 6 listed here and be competitive enough with the top 6 to produce some good games there too, maybe even score an upset or two.

We will see how this ages. I don't see CClax coming within 5 goals of any of the Top 6 teams.

Agreed. Perhaps more likely that one of the middle teams (NL, Pride, etc.) could make a close game with one of the Top 6. I don't see CClax doing that.

Stars just got some new payers that will put the in the top 5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stars just got some new payers that will put the in the top 5.

I think you might be on the wrong thread. The stars 27s got players from Pride and BLC. The 28s lost players. So any players they added would have put them back where they started.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stars just got some new payers that will put the in the top 5.

I think you might be on the wrong thread. The stars 27s got players from Pride and BLC. The 28s lost players. So any players they added would have put them back where they started.

Can't imagine stars going back to where they started with losing top players. They may go winless in NGLL A in the spring.

Stars 2028 will win a lot more than they will loose this season. They will be sneaky good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stars 2028 will win a lot more than they will loose this season. They will be sneaky good.

The same can be said of NEMS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stars 2028 will win a lot more than they will loose this season. They will be sneaky good.

Must be a Washington Commanders fan with all the offseason optimism and then hopes are dashed once the season starts. Stars will be thankful if they can beat a B team.

Any news or updates on final rosters for MDU, Crush, Skywalkers or Coppermine? Seems like only M&D and Hero's seem to be updated. What A teams will be at the Indoor Championships?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any movement between A and B teams? Will Limelight and Stars drop to B and will Hero's White and CCLax move up to A?

I believe CCLax has to move to A with them winning B. They won't win a game in A. Hero's White should stay in B.

Limelight and Stars belong more in B but hard to move back from A. Stars 2 best players left this summer and moved to top 5 Maryland teams.

CClax will not be winless in A. They played well at the end of the year including tying HOCO and beating Stars twice. Those two teams lost multiple players where CClax did not lose anyone. They will not challenge the top 5/6 but will be in the mix with all the teams after that.

Don't see them beating Pride or maybe Next Level but they could sneak in some wins against those teams mentioned. I'm guessing HOCO lost players to Hero's?

Next level got gutted in tryouts. If they stay in A, they won't win a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next level got gutted in tryouts. If they stay in A, they won't win a game.

Where did they all go, Hero's? Sounds like quite a few of last year's lower A teams will be even worse.

Problem with the 2028s, there is such a seperation from top teams to everyone else.

Must be a 2028 problem, and nothing to do with age, maturity, growth or peaking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Problem with the 2028s, there is such a seperation from top teams to everyone else.

Actually it's pretty good that there are basically 6 top teams that can compete with each other. Yes, the lower A/top B teams can't compete and the gap is wide, but other years like the 27s has maybe 2-3 top teams. The 28s have more talent than the 27s from what has been seen.

Really hard to compare one grad year to the next but I disagree.

The 2027 age has three elite local teams, but 4-10 are much much stronger than the the 6-11 group at the 2028.

There's 4 2028 teams where you could say are more dominant than their 2027 counterparts, Coppermine, Crush, MDU, SW.

BLC, LBC, Integrity, NEMS, M&D, Heros, all more dominant than 2028 teams. (BLC LBC NEMS all unusually strong at 2027 for those clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really hard to compare one grad year to the next but I disagree.

The 2027 age has three elite local teams, but 4-10 are much much stronger than the the 6-11 group at the 2028.

There's 4 2028 teams where you could say are more dominant than their 2027 counterparts, Coppermine, Crush, MDU, SW.

BLC, LBC, Integrity, NEMS, M&D, Heros, all more dominant than 2028 teams. (BLC LBC NEMS all unusually strong at 2027 for those clubs.

I don't follow the 2027 teams, which is the basis for the following questions. What is the bases for your declaration? Is it based on win/loss records? Do you think the 2027 4 - 10 rated teams appear better because they only play 3 strong teams compared to the 2028 6 - 11 rated teams playing 5 strong teams?

I think it is difficult to compare two separate age groups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really hard to compare one grad year to the next but I disagree.

The 2027 age has three elite local teams, but 4-10 are much much stronger than the the 6-11 group at the 2028.

There's 4 2028 teams where you could say are more dominant than their 2027 counterparts, Coppermine, Crush, MDU, SW.

BLC, LBC, Integrity, NEMS, M&D, Heros, all more dominant than 2028 teams. (BLC LBC NEMS all unusually strong at 2027 for those clubs.

I don't follow the 2027 teams, which is the basis for the following questions. What is the bases for your declaration? Is it based on win/loss records? Do you think the 2027 4 - 10 rated teams appear better because they only play 3 strong teams compared to the 2028 6 - 11 rated teams playing 5 strong teams?

I think it is difficult to compare two separate age groups.

Not PP but I think it just comes down to the fact that in the 2028 year talent is more spread out. There has been a lot of parity between top 5 teams. Each team has a few really stand out players and then a lot of very good players. With that many competitive teams, there's a lot more room for players who range from good to very good on low A and B teams to keep shifting up.

In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far.

Not PP but I think it just comes down to the fact that in the 2028 year talent is more spread out. There has been a lot of parity between top 5 teams. Each team has a few really stand out players and then a lot of very good players. With that many competitive teams, there's a lot more room for players who range from good to very good on low A and B teams to keep shifting up.

In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far.[/quote]

And, Ideally that doesn't happen. 6 top teams in high school competing against each other will draw the same college coach recruiting crowd as 3 super teams and It will grow the game and keep the competition level high. Some of those Lower A players that had room to move up this year will develop with the access to playing against and with better competition. There hopefully won't be the need for people to jump ship if their team and club continue to improve. That is how the game grows.

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

It will be interesting to see if some girls don't move from M&D Heros if they aren't the big fish they were at other clubs. Remember the NEMS players left just weeks ago. Who knows if this happens at 2028s next season. I think you'll see some seperation at 2028 amongst those top-5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

It will be interesting to see if some girls don't move from M&D Heros if they aren't the big fish they were at other clubs. Remember the NEMS players left just weeks ago. Who knows if this happens at 2028s next season. I think you'll see some seperation at 2028 amongst those top-5.

The NEMS 27 team had their own internal issues they were dealing with. Shouldn't be a surprise their top three players went to M&D. Will be interesting to see when/if the 28 team makes a move back to A league. Anyone know how their tryouts went?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Why does MDU have question marks when they’re a very good team and the club is the 3rd best for recruiting out of the top 5 teams from last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Why does MDU have question marks when they’re a very good team and the club is the 3rd best for recruiting out of the top 5 teams from last year?

I don't think MDU is a question mark, they can stay together as a solid HS program.

If these teams stay in the top 10 in the rankings, and play in the big tournaments they will get looks from college coaches.

3rd best? Ahead of who ? Heros , Sw or Mnd. If
You’re talking about 23 I would add Elite up there too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd best? Ahead of who ? Heros , Sw or Mnd. If
You’re talking about 23 I would add Elite up there too.

Huh? It said out of top five 2028 teams from last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3rd best? Ahead of who ? Heros , Sw or Mnd. If
You’re talking about 23 I would add Elite up there too.

SW is not in the top-5 of 2028 teams we’re they? So it’s obvious…

28s aren’t getting recruited. Has to be talking about 23 class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Why does MDU have question marks when they’re a very good team and the club is the 3rd best for recruiting out of the top 5 teams from last year?

There are question marks because they aren't on the same level as M&D, Hero's or Coppermine from a team perspective. They may have an edge on recruiting over Coppermine today but in 4 years that will not be the case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Why does MDU have question marks when they’re a very good team and the club is the 3rd best for recruiting out of the top 5 teams from last year?

There are question marks because they aren't on the same level as M&D, Hero's or Coppermine from a team perspective. They may have an edge on recruiting over Coppermine today but in 4 years that will not be the case.

In 4 year Coppermine will only be on the cusp of having their first decent recruiting class IF they manage to keep the talent they have today. You may need to move that timeline back a little. Also, you have no idea how complete MDU will look come fall.

MDU beat Hero's in both meetings, and lost to M&D by a goal multiple times.

I may have missed it but I don't see anyone saying MDU isn't a good team or club here. They are in the top 5 for a reason. However, take for example the Integrity goalie went to M&D this summer instead of going to MDU. That's why I think some are saying that there are some unknowns. And yes we will definitely see come this fall on all of the new additions to the top 5 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MDU beat Hero's in both meetings, and lost to M&D by a goal multiple times.

They also beat M&D in OT at LFTC. They we're right up there with everyone else last year. The fact of the matter is, there has been a ton of parity among the best 5 local teams. Though it might make people feel better to say their team is going to stay together while other teams are question marks, the fact of the matter is, you have no idea which players are question marks. Team dynamics change and players leave both winning and losing teams for many reasons.

"There are question marks because they aren't on the same level as M&D, Hero's or Coppermine from a team perspective"

This is just an opinion based on feelings and not facts.

Even if you don't follow other teams closely (which is to be expected) you can pretty easily look up scores in the rankings.

I have no idea how good the new M&D goalie is (formerly Integrity) but did she knock off a M&D goalie or just take a 2nd goalie spot? MDU already had two goalies, both are established and play equally.

Any clubs have their Fall practice schedules yet and which Fall tourneys they will be participating in? Hopefully, soccer won't put too much of a damper on lacrosse tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I may have missed it but I don't see anyone saying MDU isn't a good team or club here. They are in the top 5 for a reason. However, take for example the Integrity goalie went to M&D this summer instead of going to MDU. That's why I think some are saying that there are some unknowns. And yes we will definitely see come this fall on all of the new additions to the top 5 teams.

M&D only had 1 goalie. That was a more logical move than MDU who has 2. That is not an indicator about future success for MDU

MDU can, and should, stay together and keep growing as a team. They are only improving the competition at the 28 level. They can be a successful HS program. It doesn't have to come down to 3 teams with history.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[/quote]

That is not entirely true. The top girls will still stand out. This isn't high school tryouts. If you think there aren't better girls out there than the bottom half of the roster you are mistaken. You don't think in NGLL the coaches already noticed the top girls on other teams and will be happy to learn that they are coming to try out? Teams want to get better and that means taking the best girls. Some of the girls who have played for the big teams since the beginning (2nd or 3rd grade) but haven't deveolped or put kn the work may find themselves out of a roster spot. That is just a part of competition. And as a parent on that team, you should WANT the coaches looking for the best off season additions, not sitting back while other teams get better.

But you don't think the coaches have already reached out to top girls on other teams? Coaches obviously want more talent, but the amount of talent truly assessed is not what you think it is.[/quote]

As in poaching? I don't know that they would be reaching out unsolicited at this age. Maybe in high school.[/quote]

At this age, most of the poaching comes from players on top teams who make friends who girls at camps and clinics. They figure out that they are good and encourage them to come to a practice then tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"In the 2027 year, many of the best players have converged in 2 (maybe 3) teams, so you have these super teams that are hard to consistently beat, and then there's everyone else. Even NEMS which PP said is unusually strong at 2027 just lost top 3 players to M&D. That hasn't happened at this year so far."

Plenty of very good players all over in the 2027 age (and 2028). I think people just assume the top teams are loaded top to bottom, but that's not the case. There's a few elite players that make the difference. Case in Point, NEMS 2027, who finished #21 nationally, just had 3 girls make M&D.

Every year the gap closes between those top teams and middle of the pack teams.

Definitely not saying that there aren't plenty of very good players - only that many of those "elite" players who are difference makers have gravitated towards a smaller number of teams in the 2027 year than in the 2028 year (so far). The NEMS players moving to M&D illustrates this point.

From the 28 teams, I don't think that same movement will occur. There's probably only a few question marks on MDU and Crush and if their top players stay or make a move next summer. The rest seem to plan to stay at their current club.

It's too early to honestly say everyone on top teams plan to stay put. And why except MDU and Crush?? Things change, people grow unhappy for reasons they might never have anticipated, and priorities shift...especially heading into recruiting years when winning becomes less important.

Those 2 have the biggest question marks, especially with Crush and the long term prospects there as you mention about Recruiting.

Why does MDU have question marks when they’re a very good team and the club is the 3rd best for recruiting out of the top 5 teams from last year?

There are question marks because they aren't on the same level as M&D, Hero's or Coppermine from a team perspective. They may have an edge on recruiting over Coppermine today but in 4 years that will not be the case.

M&D, Hero's, and SW have a really strong recruiting pipeline and track record. MDU has a good history as well. As for Coppermine, it is nonexistence and has NO history. College coaches barely know the program. As for the 2028 team even if it they stay together and get stronger and a few girls get recruited to top D1 schools. It will do nothing for the overall program. Coppermine will just be Coppermine at the end of the day. There is no new genesis.