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There is probably multiple “#1” recruits throughout the country. Depends on what a college is looking for. How do you define #1?
# 1 kid not coming from Long Island this year!
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For parents who have been through the recruiting process before, I was curious as to how often kids on the "second tier" list eventually get offers? I realize probably never for a UNC/BC/MD level school; but what about a #10-30 ranked program? Like many 2024 kids/parents we are pretty anxious right now but wanted to be prepared for what to expect on Thursday and beyond. Thanks in advance. Are you referring to a specific "second tier" "list"? Not sure exactly what you are asking. 10 - 30? That's a broad range, # 10 is a lot closer to Top 5 than Top 30.... No need to to be anxious, none of it is in your or your daughters control. The college coaches will go after and make offers to the players that they believe will help their program. The majority of the Top 10-20 programs will be going after the same athletes on September 1st. Many other programs will also be trying to get the top players as well but it is the exception to the rule when non traditional Top 20 programs lands top talent. Parents and players will finally find out where the player stands in relation to the rest of the 2024 class. Again, no need to be anxious, most of this process is beyond your (your daughters) control at this point. Just make sure the coaches at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of her interest. Coaches want players who want to be there, if the coach has your daughter lumped in with 20 - 30 or more other players they will take the players who express a sincere desire to attend their school and play for their program over the kid who is indifferent. The Top Players will pretty much be able to choose whatever school they want and when you look at the traditional Top 10 - 20 Programs those schools offer some incredible opportunities. IMHO, that is why there is not much parity in this sport, the top players rarely choose to go outside the traditional powers. The top recruits have a diverse group of excellent academic / athletic schools to choose from.... Take a look at the list below... why would a "top tier" student athlete choose a school outside of the list below? The reality is that the majority do not go outside the traditional powers. Boston College Maryland North Carolina Northwestern Syracuse Stony Brook Princeton Virginia Florida Penn Notre Dame JMU Penn State Duke Loyola Stanford USC Hopkins UMass The following have been in the mix as well in recent years: Denver Michigan Arizona St Navy offers an incredible opportunity for those who are interested in that commitment. Clemson will be knocking on the door quickly. Vanderbilt should stat to be a little better on a more consistent basis. No disrespect to any program not listed... just rattled these off the top of my head. Just seems that the vast majority of the best players choose to go many of the schools listed above every year. Obviously, the Top 5 - 10 programs get the lions share of the top players every year. While I agree with some of what you say. UMass over Michigan is strange. Nobody I know would choose UMass over Mich. And Clemson should already be on that list, considering the commits they have. You could also include Rutgers who has vastly improved. Agree about Clemson and Michigan over UMass but completely disagree about Rutgers. Rutgers isn’t a contender for this list solely because they have had improvement. It will be impossible for them to have a real chance of a national championship. They don’t attract the recruits needed to beat a MD/BC/UNC/NW. The school and location doesn’t have what is needed to compete with these other programs.
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning
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Do we think Long Island has the #1 recruit this year ? Nope she’s on the CT Grizzlies Not sure either is top recruit but CT Grizzlies do have two of the top: attack who made U16 team and tall blond middle are both contenders.
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning 100s of girls will get calls and txts at midnight. It’s what happens on Sept 1. Then the top tier will commit by the end of Sept. Then everyone else will fill out the recruiting classes pretty much by the end of the year.
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning 100s of girls will get calls and txts at midnight. It’s what happens on Sept 1. Then the top tier will commit by the end of Sept. Then everyone else will fill out the recruiting classes pretty much by the end of the year. Yep. Rinse repeat. Every year
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For parents who have been through the recruiting process before, I was curious as to how often kids on the "second tier" list eventually get offers? I realize probably never for a UNC/BC/MD level school; but what about a #10-30 ranked program? Like many 2024 kids/parents we are pretty anxious right now but wanted to be prepared for what to expect on Thursday and beyond. Thanks in advance. Are you referring to a specific "second tier" "list"? Not sure exactly what you are asking. 10 - 30? That's a broad range, # 10 is a lot closer to Top 5 than Top 30.... No need to to be anxious, none of it is in your or your daughters control. The college coaches will go after and make offers to the players that they believe will help their program. The majority of the Top 10-20 programs will be going after the same athletes on September 1st. Many other programs will also be trying to get the top players as well but it is the exception to the rule when non traditional Top 20 programs lands top talent. Parents and players will finally find out where the player stands in relation to the rest of the 2024 class. Again, no need to be anxious, most of this process is beyond your (your daughters) control at this point. Just make sure the coaches at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of her interest. Coaches want players who want to be there, if the coach has your daughter lumped in with 20 - 30 or more other players they will take the players who express a sincere desire to attend their school and play for their program over the kid who is indifferent. The Top Players will pretty much be able to choose whatever school they want and when you look at the traditional Top 10 - 20 Programs those schools offer some incredible opportunities. IMHO, that is why there is not much parity in this sport, the top players rarely choose to go outside the traditional powers. The top recruits have a diverse group of excellent academic / athletic schools to choose from.... Take a look at the list below... why would a "top tier" student athlete choose a school outside of the list below? The reality is that the majority do not go outside the traditional powers. Boston College Maryland North Carolina Northwestern Syracuse Stony Brook Princeton Virginia Florida Penn Notre Dame JMU Penn State Duke Loyola Stanford USC Hopkins UMass The following have been in the mix as well in recent years: Denver Michigan Arizona St Navy offers an incredible opportunity for those who are interested in that commitment. Clemson will be knocking on the door quickly. Vanderbilt should stat to be a little better on a more consistent basis. No disrespect to any program not listed... just rattled these off the top of my head. Just seems that the vast majority of the best players choose to go many of the schools listed above every year. Obviously, the Top 5 - 10 programs get the lions share of the top players every year. While I agree with some of what you say. UMass over Michigan is strange. Nobody I know would choose UMass over Mich. And Clemson should already be on that list, considering the commits they have. You could also include Rutgers who has vastly improved. Agree about Clemson and Michigan over UMass but completely disagree about Rutgers. Rutgers isn’t a contender for this list solely because they have had improvement. It will be impossible for them to have a real chance of a national championship. They don’t attract the recruits needed to beat a MD/BC/UNC/NW. The school and location doesn’t have what is needed to compete with these other programs. Not really a "Ranking" but Clemson has not played a single game yet and while I agree they will be competitive quickly no reason to believe that they will be more competitive than UMass has been. Michigan has come on in recent years but not sure they ever finished the season ranked in the Top 20 prior to 2019. Rutgers has been pretty good and ranked the past couple of years. UMass and Denver seem to fly under the radar (with lacrosse parents) but both finish the season ranked in the Top 20 more than all but the Big Name Traditional Top 20. As for a recruit selecting UMass over Michigan, to each her own. Umass can be very attractive to Massachusetts Residence in the same way that Stony Brook, Maryland and Penn State are for their in-state players. At the end of the day, the programs listed are the programs that always seem to be ranked in the Top 20 at the end of the season. Georgetown used to be in the mix and should be Top 20 every year, not sure what is going on there.
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Michigan and Northwestern are the 2 top academic schools in the Big10. The Big 10 as a conference as a whole is only behind the Ivies. Amazing big schools flush with cash!
Rutgers is a clear top 10 program going forward for a long time.
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M&D and Monsters' both have 2 great players each, all 4 are in the top player discussion. The NJ goalie can win games all by herself, amazing!
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning 100s of girls will get calls and txts at midnight. It’s what happens on Sept 1. Then the top tier will commit by the end of Sept. Then everyone else will fill out the recruiting classes pretty much by the end of the year. Yep. Rinse repeat. Every year College football starts in full this weekend. Top tier girls will be visiting schools this weekend. Great atmosphere to see campus's in action. Last year some of top tier committed right after Labor Day. Would expect the same this year. Maryland, Florida, BC, Michigan, Virginia, Stanford, Duke, USC, and Syracuse all have home football games this weekend. UNC, Clemson, and ND are all away. Northwestern played this past Saturday in Ireland and next home game is 9/10. Can't see top tier girls still around at end of the month. Not saying it is right or wrong, and not sure it has ever happened, but would anyone be that surprised if a girl committed on 9/1?
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M&D and Monsters' both have 2 great players each, all 4 are in the top player discussion. The NJ goalie can win games all by herself, amazing! DEWLAX has the goalie and a middie. Both made the Under 16. Will be off the board very quickly.
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning 100s of girls will get calls and txts at midnight. It’s what happens on Sept 1. Then the top tier will commit by the end of Sept. Then everyone else will fill out the recruiting classes pretty much by the end of the year. Yep. Rinse repeat. Every year College football starts in full this weekend. Top tier girls will be visiting schools this weekend. Great atmosphere to see campus's in action. Last year some of top tier committed right after Labor Day. Would expect the same this year. Maryland, Florida, BC, Michigan, Virginia, Stanford, Duke, USC, and Syracuse all have home football games this weekend. UNC, Clemson, and ND are all away. Northwestern played this past Saturday in Ireland and next home game is 9/10. Can't see top tier girls still around at end of the month. Not saying it is right or wrong, and not sure it has ever happened, but would anyone be that surprised if a girl committed on 9/1? Why would you want to commit without a visit?
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She will get a call at midnight or more likely a direct text. And a call will be scheduled for the morning 100s of girls will get calls and txts at midnight. It’s what happens on Sept 1. Then the top tier will commit by the end of Sept. Then everyone else will fill out the recruiting classes pretty much by the end of the year. Yep. Rinse repeat. Every year College football starts in full this weekend. Top tier girls will be visiting schools this weekend. Great atmosphere to see campus's in action. Last year some of top tier committed right after Labor Day. Would expect the same this year. Maryland, Florida, BC, Michigan, Virginia, Stanford, Duke, USC, and Syracuse all have home football games this weekend. UNC, Clemson, and ND are all away. Northwestern played this past Saturday in Ireland and next home game is 9/10. Can't see top tier girls still around at end of the month. Not saying it is right or wrong, and not sure it has ever happened, but would anyone be that surprised if a girl committed on 9/1? Why would you want to commit without a visit? Great question and not sure and girls should enjoy this ride. Just guessing on a few fronts - being first (if never done before. On mens side, Brennan O"Neill who is a Junior at Duke this year originally committed to Penn State as an 8th grader when rules were different but why commit that early?). Money? NIL? Top tier has probably visited some of their top choices via the coaches play day or camp already? Girls already into Fall sport schedule? Etc...
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Michigan and Northwestern are the 2 top academic schools in the Big10. The Big 10 as a conference as a whole is only behind the Ivies. Amazing big schools flush with cash!
Rutgers is a clear top 10 program going forward for a long time. Rutgers has been doing well but "clear Top 10 program" going forward might be a bit of a stretch. There are some really great schools that have had women's lacrosse for some time and they have really never been able to be competitive on a consistent basis. Although Hopkins is only in the Big 10 for Lacrosse it's another great academic school affiliated with The B1G... Add USC to the mix as well. Could ND & possibly Stanford Join The Big 10 in the future? Until there are more kids playing the sport it is unlikely that we will see much of a change in the traditional Top 10-20, there is simply not enough talent out there.
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That U16 is loaded with talent, but several top 2024's are not on the team. Never know who wanted to pay another fee for a try-out. There are a few surprise names on the U16 that may have had a real good combine, but that's why there is a combine. Just over 2 days away from ending all the speculation and having parents calling specific coaches clueless for not calling their girls Sept. 1.
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Do we think Long Island has the #1 recruit this year ? Nope she’s on the CT Grizzlies OK CT Grizzly mom/dad. I’m sure each school has a definition of what their #1 recruit looks like depending on what they need. Their #1 is going to be a position they need. Many 24s are very good and hard to point to a clear #1. I’m sure a few LI girls are some schools #1s. We will all soon see.
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Preseason rankings: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/slideshow/2023-way-ahead-rankings-ilwomens-di-top-25/175?slide=0If your daughter gets a call or text from one or more of these schools, I think good advice would be to set up visits to her top 5 in order (you get 5 officials), and see all 5 before you decide. Unless she absolutely falls in love, you really need to see the school with students on campus, talk to the coaches to see how she will fit in and if she likes their coaching style, and see what the $$ is. Looks can be deceiving. Also keep in mind that some schools like Stanford and Northwestern start later, so they may not be able to offer an official visit until students are on campus. There are so many aspects to consider when deciding on the school and the decision can be difficult. Good luck to all during this exciting time!
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Michigan and Northwestern are the 2 top academic schools in the Big10. The Big 10 as a conference as a whole is only behind the Ivies. Amazing big schools flush with cash!
Rutgers is a clear top 10 program going forward for a long time. Rutgers has been doing well but "clear Top 10 program" going forward might be a bit of a stretch. There are some really great schools that have had women's lacrosse for some time and they have really never been able to be competitive on a consistent basis. Although Hopkins is only in the Big 10 for Lacrosse it's another great academic school affiliated with The B1G... Add USC to the mix as well. Could ND & possibly Stanford Join The Big 10 in the future? Until there are more kids playing the sport it is unlikely that we will see much of a change in the traditional Top 10-20, there is simply not enough talent out there. LMAO. Writes that as IL ranks Rutgers 8th in early rankings
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class?
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Interesting forum on Sports Recruits with d1 coaches. Love the “if your kid has moved on from our offer please let us know. We don’t want to find out on Instagram.” But in a previous segment the old get the hint. If you don’t hear from us for a few months Move on.
Although it was very informative I still don’t like the “respect the coaches and answer them promptly” because it certainly isn’t a two way street.
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Not sure either is top recruit but CT Grizzlies do have two of the top: attack who made U16 team and tall blond middle are both contenders
M&D 3 USA middies are legit and another one of the top ones missed the summer with injury. She will go fast ! Monster attacker is awesome as Is Grizzlies attack and draw girls. Dewlax does have a great goalie but nothing else special and the goalie needs help winning games va top teams. Yj has one elite mid / attack. And a solid group around her.
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits.
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. One of the issues with the strike of midnight calls is the first call you pick up, you will be on the phone for 5-10 minutes with the asst or head coach, they will be looking to keep it short so they can continue to call other prospects. But the issue is, other coaches will likely be calling and you can't go answer those beeps while on the phone. They will all eventually get in touch with you, so in the end I guess it doesn't matter. Some helpful information from experience, my daughter spent 12:00 to 3:30-4:00AM on phone, answering E-mails, and texting. The next morning was very busy, starting at 7:00 AM for most of the rest of the day, it was continuing communications and making arrangements with any and all the coaches who had reached out. The coaches spend the first several days making house visits, then it turns into having recruits going to campus. She had no class on Sept 1st a couple years ago, so the next day was not an issue. If you expect your daughter to be a top tier recruit, it may very well be a good idea to take the day off from school (and work for parents) to take care of business. Also have your daughter ready with a few canned questions to ask the coaches. When a coach asks them if they have any questions, "no" or silence is not a good response. Also get a notebook and keep extremely good notes of everything discussed, details can get mixed up or hard to remember when you start talking to many coaches from different programs. Ask the coach if it is alright to use speaker phone on the call and let them know parents are there. Parents can take notes and let kids do the any and all of the talking. If you have interest from schools you know your daughter will not be considering, let them know as soon as you can and never burn those bridges, things may not work out on visits or freshman year, look at all the underclass players in the transfer portal, be respectful and keep all doors open for the future with respectful handling of recruiting interest. Exciting times for these kids, have fun with it and good luck to you all!
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. Yes, your daughter will probably be offered official visits by some schools, but others will just say they are interested but have other girls higher. That’s where it gets tricky. Your daughter may have serious interest from good schools, but not her dream school. If she gets an offer and doesn’t take it, it could be gone pretty quickly and then she left with nothing.
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M&D 3 USA middies are legit and another one of the top ones missed the summer with injury. She will go fast ! Monster attacker is awesome as Is Grizzlies attack and draw girls. Dewlax does have a great goalie but nothing else special and the goalie needs help winning games va top teams. Yj has one elite mid / attack. And a solid group around her.[/quote]
The elite group of 2024’s from LI include YJ Wiener Girl and Top Gun Girl. The grizzly attacked and tall middie are also fantastic. The small monster girl is great along with the Dewlax goalie. The MnD middies are great. All these girls make up a elite group in the 2024’s and the USA U16 should be fun to watch!
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Not sure either is top recruit but CT Grizzlies do have two of the top: attack who made U16 team and tall blond middle are both contenders
M&D 3 USA middies are legit and another one of the top ones missed the summer with injury. She will go fast ! Monster attacker is awesome as Is Grizzlies attack and draw girls. Dewlax does have a great goalie but nothing else special and the goalie needs help winning games va top teams. Yj has one elite mid / attack. And a solid group around her. Thanks coach. 🙄
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M&D 3 USA middies are legit and another one of the top ones missed the summer with injury. She will go fast ! Monster attacker is awesome as Is Grizzlies attack and draw girls. Dewlax does have a great goalie but nothing else special and the goalie needs help winning games va top teams. Yj has one elite mid / attack. And a solid group around her.[/quote]
The elite group of 2024’s from LI include YJ Wiener Girl and Top Gun Girl. The grizzly attacked and tall middie are also fantastic. The small monster girl is great along with the Dewlax goalie. The MnD middies are great. All these girls make up a elite group in the 2024’s and the USA U16 should be fun to watch!
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? Views don't necessarily equal calls and offers. Coaches are simply cramming for their 9/1 exam.
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. One of the issues with the strike of midnight calls is the first call you pick up, you will be on the phone for 5-10 minutes with the asst or head coach, they will be looking to keep it short so they can continue to call other prospects. But the issue is, other coaches will likely be calling and you can't go answer those beeps while on the phone. They will all eventually get in touch with you, so in the end I guess it doesn't matter. Some helpful information from experience, my daughter spent 12:00 to 3:30-4:00AM on phone, answering E-mails, and texting. The next morning was very busy, starting at 7:00 AM for most of the rest of the day, it was continuing communications and making arrangements with any and all the coaches who had reached out. The coaches spend the first several days making house visits, then it turns into having recruits going to campus. She had no class on Sept 1st a couple years ago, so the next day was not an issue. If you expect your daughter to be a top tier recruit, it may very well be a good idea to take the day off from school (and work for parents) to take care of business. Also have your daughter ready with a few canned questions to ask the coaches. When a coach asks them if they have any questions, "no" or silence is not a good response. Also get a notebook and keep extremely good notes of everything discussed, details can get mixed up or hard to remember when you start talking to many coaches from different programs. Ask the coach if it is alright to use speaker phone on the call and let them know parents are there. Parents can take notes and let kids do the any and all of the talking. If you have interest from schools you know your daughter will not be considering, let them know as soon as you can and never burn those bridges, things may not work out on visits or freshman year, look at all the underclass players in the transfer portal, be respectful and keep all doors open for the future with respectful handling of recruiting interest. Exciting times for these kids, have fun with it and good luck to you all! Prior to receiving any calls know what's important to you and your daughter 1) Academics 2) Lax program 3) Location Many schools will contact you. Make sure you know what's important to you.
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. One of the issues with the strike of midnight calls is the first call you pick up, you will be on the phone for 5-10 minutes with the asst or head coach, they will be looking to keep it short so they can continue to call other prospects. But the issue is, other coaches will likely be calling and you can't go answer those beeps while on the phone. They will all eventually get in touch with you, so in the end I guess it doesn't matter. Some helpful information from experience, my daughter spent 12:00 to 3:30-4:00AM on phone, answering E-mails, and texting. The next morning was very busy, starting at 7:00 AM for most of the rest of the day, it was continuing communications and making arrangements with any and all the coaches who had reached out. The coaches spend the first several days making house visits, then it turns into having recruits going to campus. She had no class on Sept 1st a couple years ago, so the next day was not an issue. If you expect your daughter to be a top tier recruit, it may very well be a good idea to take the day off from school (and work for parents) to take care of business. Also have your daughter ready with a few canned questions to ask the coaches. When a coach asks them if they have any questions, "no" or silence is not a good response. Also get a notebook and keep extremely good notes of everything discussed, details can get mixed up or hard to remember when you start talking to many coaches from different programs. Ask the coach if it is alright to use speaker phone on the call and let them know parents are there. Parents can take notes and let kids do the any and all of the talking. If you have interest from schools you know your daughter will not be considering, let them know as soon as you can and never burn those bridges, things may not work out on visits or freshman year, look at all the underclass players in the transfer portal, be respectful and keep all doors open for the future with respectful handling of recruiting interest. Exciting times for these kids, have fun with it and good luck to you all! Prior to receiving any calls know what's important to you and your daughter 1) Academics 2) Lax program 3) Location Many schools will contact you. Make sure you know what's important to you. How about $$??
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. One of the issues with the strike of midnight calls is the first call you pick up, you will be on the phone for 5-10 minutes with the asst or head coach, they will be looking to keep it short so they can continue to call other prospects. But the issue is, other coaches will likely be calling and you can't go answer those beeps while on the phone. They will all eventually get in touch with you, so in the end I guess it doesn't matter. Some helpful information from experience, my daughter spent 12:00 to 3:30-4:00AM on phone, answering E-mails, and texting. The next morning was very busy, starting at 7:00 AM for most of the rest of the day, it was continuing communications and making arrangements with any and all the coaches who had reached out. The coaches spend the first several days making house visits, then it turns into having recruits going to campus. She had no class on Sept 1st a couple years ago, so the next day was not an issue. If you expect your daughter to be a top tier recruit, it may very well be a good idea to take the day off from school (and work for parents) to take care of business. Also have your daughter ready with a few canned questions to ask the coaches. When a coach asks them if they have any questions, "no" or silence is not a good response. Also get a notebook and keep extremely good notes of everything discussed, details can get mixed up or hard to remember when you start talking to many coaches from different programs. Ask the coach if it is alright to use speaker phone on the call and let them know parents are there. Parents can take notes and let kids do the any and all of the talking. If you have interest from schools you know your daughter will not be considering, let them know as soon as you can and never burn those bridges, things may not work out on visits or freshman year, look at all the underclass players in the transfer portal, be respectful and keep all doors open for the future with respectful handling of recruiting interest. Exciting times for these kids, have fun with it and good luck to you all! Prior to receiving any calls know what's important to you and your daughter 1) Academics 2) Lax program 3) Location Many schools will contact you. Make sure you know what's important to you. How about $$?? Let the parents handle the money question, as the bill is on the parents.
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Michigan and Northwestern are the 2 top academic schools in the Big10. The Big 10 as a conference as a whole is only behind the Ivies. Amazing big schools flush with cash!
Rutgers is a clear top 10 program going forward for a long time. Rutgers has been doing well but "clear Top 10 program" going forward might be a bit of a stretch. There are some really great schools that have had women's lacrosse for some time and they have really never been able to be competitive on a consistent basis. Although Hopkins is only in the Big 10 for Lacrosse it's another great academic school affiliated with The B1G... Add USC to the mix as well. Could ND & possibly Stanford Join The Big 10 in the future? Until there are more kids playing the sport it is unlikely that we will see much of a change in the traditional Top 10-20, there is simply not enough talent out there. LMAO. Writes that as IL ranks Rutgers 8th in early rankings Wow, you are right, good for them! INSIDE LACROSSE TOP 10 LIST FOR 2023 1 UNC 2 Maryland 3 Northwestern 4 Boston College 5 Stony Brook 6 Syracuse 7 Florida 8 Rutgers 9 Denver 10 Stanford
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My daughter is freaking out about 9/1. She’s getting more and more views every day on sports recruits unprovoked. Surely that has to be a good sign?
Do schools really call and email at midnight? Should she keep her phone on? What does she do if they call while she’s in class? They will call, text and email at midnight to set up phone calls for the morning and afternoon of September 1st. If a coach is very interested they will set up official visits. One of the issues with the strike of midnight calls is the first call you pick up, you will be on the phone for 5-10 minutes with the asst or head coach, they will be looking to keep it short so they can continue to call other prospects. But the issue is, other coaches will likely be calling and you can't go answer those beeps while on the phone. They will all eventually get in touch with you, so in the end I guess it doesn't matter. Some helpful information from experience, my daughter spent 12:00 to 3:30-4:00AM on phone, answering E-mails, and texting. The next morning was very busy, starting at 7:00 AM for most of the rest of the day, it was continuing communications and making arrangements with any and all the coaches who had reached out. The coaches spend the first several days making house visits, then it turns into having recruits going to campus. She had no class on Sept 1st a couple years ago, so the next day was not an issue. If you expect your daughter to be a top tier recruit, it may very well be a good idea to take the day off from school (and work for parents) to take care of business. Also have your daughter ready with a few canned questions to ask the coaches. When a coach asks them if they have any questions, "no" or silence is not a good response. Also get a notebook and keep extremely good notes of everything discussed, details can get mixed up or hard to remember when you start talking to many coaches from different programs. Ask the coach if it is alright to use speaker phone on the call and let them know parents are there. Parents can take notes and let kids do the any and all of the talking. If you have interest from schools you know your daughter will not be considering, let them know as soon as you can and never burn those bridges, things may not work out on visits or freshman year, look at all the underclass players in the transfer portal, be respectful and keep all doors open for the future with respectful handling of recruiting interest. Exciting times for these kids, have fun with it and good luck to you all! Prior to receiving any calls know what's important to you and your daughter 1) Academics 2) Lax program 3) Location Many schools will contact you. Make sure you know what's important to you. How about $$?? Let the parents handle the money question, as the bill is on the parents. Lol, that is a ridiculous thing to say. Many girls will come out of school with huge student loan debt. Money should be top on list, unless you are daddy Warbucks. The recruited athlete better understand what the bill will be. This becomes a huge consideration for most. Ivies are unaffordable to most middle class at 85k and no athletic money, schools like StonyBrook make college affordable even if there is no big scholarship. Just a couple examples.
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Here is a recap of my daugher's recruiting process: She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect. My daughter went to school camps at most of her top targets. She played for a club team that was ranked in / out of the top 10 - so she was able to play against all the top teams - which meant that all the various colleges watched them play over a 2+ year period. Our club director guided us well to keeping an evolving top 20 target school list. She then worked diligently to get feedback from those schools - most, but not all, schools would let her know if they had interest. My daughter went into 9/1 with a good sense of where there was mutual interest. On 9/1 she heard from most of those schools, a few disappeared and a few desirable ones popped up. Many others reached out where unfortunately she did not have much interest (due to academics and / or level of lacrosse). She spent a lot of time fielding all calls, being appreciative etc., and then calling all those coaches back to let them know of her position. She was not recruited by the top few lacrosse programs, but was a solid target for the rest of the top 30 group. On 9/1, a couple things to be aware of: generally the head coach calls the top targets, starting at the top top first thing in the AM. the top assistant will call the next group, etc. You can often read into where you are for them based on who calls and when. For many of the schools at the top of my daughter's list - she was somewhere in the middle for them. A few schools said things like "we are moving a little slowly" when it came to scheduling visits, in hindsight that was code for "we are targeting a few others at your position, and are not yet ready to offer you". Also, many schools did unofficials, leaving official visits for the committed class to do together at a later time. The school where my daughter ended up was one of her top targets, the coach gave her time to decide, and fortunately it all worked out. Hope this is useful.
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Question: If a coach invites your 2024 daughter for an unofficial visit within in the next 4 months. What % chance of her being offered a spot on the visit is?? I'm sure people may have many comments, I hope they do.
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Here is a recap of my daugher's recruiting process: She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect. My daughter went to school camps at most of her top targets. She played for a club team that was ranked in / out of the top 10 - so she was able to play against all the top teams - which meant that all the various colleges watched them play over a 2+ year period. Our club director guided us well to keeping an evolving top 20 target school list. She then worked diligently to get feedback from those schools - most, but not all, schools would let her know if they had interest. My daughter went into 9/1 with a good sense of where there was mutual interest. On 9/1 she heard from most of those schools, a few disappeared and a few desirable ones popped up. Many others reached out where unfortunately she did not have much interest (due to academics and / or level of lacrosse). She spent a lot of time fielding all calls, being appreciative etc., and then calling all those coaches back to let them know of her position. She was not recruited by the top few lacrosse programs, but was a solid target for the rest of the top 30 group. On 9/1, a couple things to be aware of: generally the head coach calls the top targets, starting at the top top first thing in the AM. the top assistant will call the next group, etc. You can often read into where you are for them based on who calls and when. For many of the schools at the top of my daughter's list - she was somewhere in the middle for them. A few schools said things like "we are moving a little slowly" when it came to scheduling visits, in hindsight that was code for "we are targeting a few others at your position, and are not yet ready to offer you". Also, many schools did unofficials, leaving official visits for the committed class to do together at a later time. The school where my daughter ended up was one of her top targets, the coach gave her time to decide, and fortunately it all worked out. Hope this is useful. Thank you for taking the time to post! Very helpful And appreciated!
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Here is a recap of my daugher's recruiting process: She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect. My daughter went to school camps at most of her top targets. She played for a club team that was ranked in / out of the top 10 - so she was able to play against all the top teams - which meant that all the various colleges watched them play over a 2+ year period. Our club director guided us well to keeping an evolving top 20 target school list. She then worked diligently to get feedback from those schools - most, but not all, schools would let her know if they had interest. My daughter went into 9/1 with a good sense of where there was mutual interest. On 9/1 she heard from most of those schools, a few disappeared and a few desirable ones popped up. Many others reached out where unfortunately she did not have much interest (due to academics and / or level of lacrosse). She spent a lot of time fielding all calls, being appreciative etc., and then calling all those coaches back to let them know of her position. She was not recruited by the top few lacrosse programs, but was a solid target for the rest of the top 30 group. On 9/1, a couple things to be aware of: generally the head coach calls the top targets, starting at the top top first thing in the AM. the top assistant will call the next group, etc. You can often read into where you are for them based on who calls and when. For many of the schools at the top of my daughter's list - she was somewhere in the middle for them. A few schools said things like "we are moving a little slowly" when it came to scheduling visits, in hindsight that was code for "we are targeting a few others at your position, and are not yet ready to offer you". Also, many schools did unofficials, leaving official visits for the committed class to do together at a later time. The school where my daughter ended up was one of her top targets, the coach gave her time to decide, and fortunately it all worked out. Hope this is useful. Question: If a coach invites your 2024 daughter for an unofficial visit within in the next 4 months. What % chance of her being offered a spot on the visit is?? I'm sure people may have many comments, I hope they do. My daughters first visit was unofficial to an Ivy because it was so close. There were a few girls there, all unofficial. My daughter received an offer and ultimately did not go there, another girl committed that day.
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Here is a recap of my daugher's recruiting process: She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect. My daughter went to school camps at most of her top targets. She played for a club team that was ranked in / out of the top 10 - so she was able to play against all the top teams - which meant that all the various colleges watched them play over a 2+ year period. Our club director guided us well to keeping an evolving top 20 target school list. She then worked diligently to get feedback from those schools - most, but not all, schools would let her know if they had interest. My daughter went into 9/1 with a good sense of where there was mutual interest. On 9/1 she heard from most of those schools, a few disappeared and a few desirable ones popped up. Many others reached out where unfortunately she did not have much interest (due to academics and / or level of lacrosse). She spent a lot of time fielding all calls, being appreciative etc., and then calling all those coaches back to let them know of her position. She was not recruited by the top few lacrosse programs, but was a solid target for the rest of the top 30 group. On 9/1, a couple things to be aware of: generally the head coach calls the top targets, starting at the top top first thing in the AM. the top assistant will call the next group, etc. You can often read into where you are for them based on who calls and when. For many of the schools at the top of my daughter's list - she was somewhere in the middle for them. A few schools said things like "we are moving a little slowly" when it came to scheduling visits, in hindsight that was code for "we are targeting a few others at your position, and are not yet ready to offer you". Also, many schools did unofficials, leaving official visits for the committed class to do together at a later time. The school where my daughter ended up was one of her top targets, the coach gave her time to decide, and fortunately it all worked out. Hope this is useful. Thanks. Awesome post.
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Michigan and Northwestern are the 2 top academic schools in the Big10. The Big 10 as a conference as a whole is only behind the Ivies. Amazing big schools flush with cash!
Rutgers is a clear top 10 program going forward for a long time. Rutgers has been doing well but "clear Top 10 program" going forward might be a bit of a stretch. There are some really great schools that have had women's lacrosse for some time and they have really never been able to be competitive on a consistent basis. Although Hopkins is only in the Big 10 for Lacrosse it's another great academic school affiliated with The B1G... Add USC to the mix as well. Could ND & possibly Stanford Join The Big 10 in the future? Until there are more kids playing the sport it is unlikely that we will see much of a change in the traditional Top 10-20, there is simply not enough talent out there. LMAO. Writes that as IL ranks Rutgers 8th in early rankings Wow, you are right, good for them! INSIDE LACROSSE TOP 10 LIST FOR 2023 1 UNC 2 Maryland 3 Northwestern 4 Boston College 5 Stony Brook 6 Syracuse 7 Florida 8 Rutgers 9 Denver 10 Stanford Good for Rutgers, they have been pretty good the past couple of years. That said, to assume that they will be a Top 10 program for a long time to come just might be a stretch. Anything is possible but that "Perennial Top 10" has been a very difficult group to break into. Ask Notre Dame how all of those "Preseason" rankings compare to the reality of the the "Final" rankings.
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Here is a recap of my daugher's recruiting process: She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect. My daughter went to school camps at most of her top targets. She played for a club team that was ranked in / out of the top 10 - so she was able to play against all the top teams - which meant that all the various colleges watched them play over a 2+ year period. Our club director guided us well to keeping an evolving top 20 target school list. She then worked diligently to get feedback from those schools - most, but not all, schools would let her know if they had interest. My daughter went into 9/1 with a good sense of where there was mutual interest. On 9/1 she heard from most of those schools, a few disappeared and a few desirable ones popped up. Many others reached out where unfortunately she did not have much interest (due to academics and / or level of lacrosse). She spent a lot of time fielding all calls, being appreciative etc., and then calling all those coaches back to let them know of her position. She was not recruited by the top few lacrosse programs, but was a solid target for the rest of the top 30 group. On 9/1, a couple things to be aware of: generally the head coach calls the top targets, starting at the top top first thing in the AM. the top assistant will call the next group, etc. You can often read into where you are for them based on who calls and when. For many of the schools at the top of my daughter's list - she was somewhere in the middle for them. A few schools said things like "we are moving a little slowly" when it came to scheduling visits, in hindsight that was code for "we are targeting a few others at your position, and are not yet ready to offer you". Also, many schools did unofficials, leaving official visits for the committed class to do together at a later time. The school where my daughter ended up was one of her top targets, the coach gave her time to decide, and fortunately it all worked out. Hope this is useful. --- "She is a '21, rated on the rise (50-100) by IL. We were "lucky" to start the process early, since the jr year rule hadn't yet come into effect." --- Didn't the "early recruiting rule change" take effect in May of 2017? How was a 2021 HS Grad engaged in the recruiting process before the "rule change"? Even if coaches reached out when your daughter was an 8th grader they would have had to break off all contact once the new rule was in force in 2017.
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