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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to 4th Grade Girls (2031 Grads) for the Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Season.

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New family here in nassau. What’s the view on playing on 2 clubs. Our head coach’s kid plays for our team and is also on the roster for a suffolk based team. We had minimal games this fall and think one of the reasons is that it may have conflicted with the other bee (b) team (pun intended) Kinda disingenuous if you ask me.

Parents shouldn’t Coach their kids! Sounds like decisions being made for the kids benefit and not the teams. Your kid will not benefit. Check out teams without parent coaching. Maybe the Jesters?

I wouldn't make it so black and white. I've seen horrible parent coaches just like I've seen horrible paid coaches. I've seen excellent parent coaches that are fair and effective.

True, it’s not fair to say parents don’t make good coaches. Plenty of very good qualified parents coaching teams. However, maybe at club level it shouldn’t be parents with kids on the team? Keep that at PAL.

Once someone pays big $s for club, they should be able to get a paid coaching staff. Always going to be some question if a parents coaching …about conflict of interest and decision making regarding play. So? Maybe leave parent coaching at PAL?

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Either or is fine as long as ALL kids and it’s team development is the focus and decisions are based on the girls abilities. We all make a judgement based on our personal experiences. Myself, I have seen the downside of parent coach organizations. Coaches having side conversations with the parents of their daughters friends prior to posting tryout results. These convos did affect the tryout outcomes. My daughter made the B team but clearly better than others on A. Unfortunately we purposefully had our first year with this organization where my daughter had no friends on the team thinking club was based only on ability. I was wrong. You live and learn. We are now joining another team that does not have parent coaches playing for the A team.

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Originally Posted by Team BOTC
Reposting last post from previous SY:

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New family here in nassau. What’s the view on playing on 2 clubs. Our head coach’s kid plays for our team and is also on the roster for a suffolk based team. We had minimal games this fall and think one of the reasons is that it may have conflicted with the other bee (b) team (pun intended) Kinda disingenuous if you ask me.

Parents shouldn’t Coach their kids! Sounds like decisions being made for the kids benefit and not the teams. Your kid will not benefit. Check out teams without parent coaching. Maybe the Jesters?

I wouldn't make it so black and white. I've seen horrible parent coaches just like I've seen horrible paid coaches. I've seen excellent parent coaches that are fair and effective.

True, it’s not fair to say parents don’t make good coaches. Plenty of very good qualified parents coaching teams. However, maybe at club level it shouldn’t be parents with kids on the team? Keep that at PAL.

Once someone pays big $s for club, they should be able to get a paid coaching staff. Always going to be some question if a parents coaching …about conflict of interest and decision making regarding play. So? Maybe leave parent coaching at PAL?

Jesters has some bigger name coaches. Obviously you have the owner Caramelli, but then you have some other popular trainers and players in the area. Kilgus, Tilts, Pirreca, Downey, and Esposito. If you can get one of those women as your head coach your team is set up for success. Strong, female, non-parent coaches who are all in. Not sure who has the 2031 but as a parent of an older player who has been trained by all of those women except for Downey, I would request one of them to be your coach and you’ll be yet.

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New family here in nassau. What’s the view on playing on 2 clubs. Our head coach’s kid plays for our team and is also on the roster for a suffolk based team. We had minimal games this fall and think one of the reasons is that it may have conflicted with the other bee (b) team (pun intended) Kinda disingenuous if you ask me.

Parents shouldn’t Coach their kids! Sounds like decisions being made for the kids benefit and not the teams. Your kid will not benefit. Check out teams without parent coaching. Maybe the Jesters?

I wouldn't make it so black and white. I've seen horrible parent coaches just like I've seen horrible paid coaches. I've seen excellent parent coaches that are fair and effective.

True, it’s not fair to say parents don’t make good coaches. Plenty of very good qualified parents coaching teams. However, maybe at club level it shouldn’t be parents with kids on the team? Keep that at PAL.

Once someone pays big $s for club, they should be able to get a paid coaching staff. Always going to be some question if a parents coaching …about conflict of interest and decision making regarding play. So? Maybe leave parent coaching at PAL?

Jesters has some bigger name coaches. Obviously you have the owner Caramelli, but then you have some other popular trainers and players in the area. Kilgus, Tilts, Pirreca, Downey, and Esposito. If you can get one of those women as your head coach your team is set up for success. Strong, female, non-parent coaches who are all in. Not sure who has the 2031 but as a parent of an older player who has been trained by all of those women except for Downey, I would request one of them to be your coach and you’ll be yet.

Agree these are the clubs better coaches and ones who draw kids in, but there are only a few of them for how many teams?

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Jesters has a lot of great coaches beyond the former women players (who are terrific). Many are former college players themselves. Sure they played the men's game but they have taken the time to learn the women's game too.

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Jesters has a lot of great coaches beyond the former women players (who are terrific). Many are former college players themselves. Sure they played the men's game but they have taken the time to learn the women's game too.

They have a lot more non parent coaches than many clubs do. I will say that a few of the male coaches are very great as well, but they ar e parent coaches. Hard to sell parent coaches to families paying $2500

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TG has a well rounded team looked like a non parent coach, good ball movement, good defense and a an excellent goalie

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Not 2500. Less

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