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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #380133 05/18/22 09:32 PM
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There is always a tournament or two each year that misplaces teams. It’ll balance itself out eventually

Directors request the level and approve the schedule before it’s released.

As for AS , 2nd team players in Md are turning down the invite. Next person with $500 is up though. People are jumping at the chance to pay to play this elite event.[/quote]

The MD tryout was Sunday, and you already know the selections and who has turned down their offers?

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #380155 05/19/22 06:42 AM
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Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

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Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Probably the best post on this thread yet. Finally someone with common sense.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #380157 05/19/22 06:46 AM
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Actually it was the analysis of the college coaches after Dallas in November. They already know.

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Thankfully nobody is interested in your analysis of the 2024 group, or your opinion that the 2023 was an elite group. The fact is nobody will know the level or ability of the 2024 group until the recruiting cycle is over.

“The Analysis if the college coaches” after Dallas? Did you have access to the coaches and their “analysis”? Are you in the conversation with college coaches and discussing this with them?

Over the years Under Armour did a very good job with their Underclass Tournament, it was by far the most competitive HS event around. On Long Island there were always a handful of players who were talented enough to make but were left out for one reason or another (in general, not making the team did not hurt them when it came to recruiting).

The overbearing delusional parents have been rewarded with American Select, certain people realized that they could profit even more off the families so they created an event that they could control. Everybody gets a trophy just as long as you pay for it.

It is perfectly fine to have the event and it is okay to have three teams per graduation year but to bill it as an elite or select event is disingenuous to say the least.

As one of the posts pointed out, the college coaches will do their own analysis and they will let all of the parents and players know just how "select" they are.

Just be thankful that your daughter plays lacrosse, the opportunities that this sport can provide are nothing less than incredible. The best 20 or so players from Long Island will have their choice of schools. There will be great opportunities for the rest of the players as well but those opportunities will not be at the better college programs.

Do your best to help your daughter navigate the recruiting process, help her to stay positive and find the overall best fit so that her overall college experience is a positive one. For all but the top players the recruiting process can be very stressful for both the parents and the players.

Some tournament schedules coming out show no reflection of teams capability- Kildare playing terrible teams in their first tournament, Ramos being in the same bracket as 91 (craziness), teams ranked very low playing teams ranked very high. Will there be movement in these schedules? Do tournament directors have the understanding of the stronger teams and clubs? Kildare and Ramos should be in higher brackets then the teams they are currently versing for sure, and some 2024 b teams playing 2025 teams in recruiting tournaments? Who is getting paid to make these decisions.

Summer genesis schedule is really bad...Bengals, 91, Kildare, O'Sullivan, & Jesters all really bad schedules for the skills of those teams. The directors really screwed that one up. Have a feeling there will be complaints and it will change.

They already did with the 2025 schedule. They pulled it back when they realized Spallina was playing in a bracket with teams they would've crushed. They changed it and put them in a more competitive schedule.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #380161 05/19/22 06:58 AM
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When do girls have to give their final answer for AS?

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #380900 05/23/22 11:16 AM
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I believe Maryland girls had to register for American Select by last Thursday (May 19)

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #381492 05/26/22 08:20 AM
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Seems ward melville had a klot of 24s on their roster. Seems all but two of them start and play the entire game. good for them!

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

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Anonymous #381812 05/27/22 05:19 PM
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I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.

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Anonymous #381838 05/28/22 03:23 AM
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I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.


Half right half completely wrong. Yes, UA150 is an application w highlight video and $600+. UA All America is a tryout and free. The biggest difference is UA150 mixes up kids from many different clubs on each UA150 team and UA All America has the regionally selected kids play for their regional team. Thus, UA All America kids generally play on their regional team with some kids they know. Less so with UA150. Most importantly, the recruiting information above is not correct. I was at UA150 last year and there were plenty of brand-name colleges represented on the sidelines. Finally, the suggestion that UA150 will not have the best kids is ridiculous. Don't take my word for it, just look at the posted rosters for the UA150 teams and what club team they play for. M&D Black, Skywalker's, Yellow Jackets etc on every team.

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Anonymous #381855 05/28/22 11:12 AM
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I'm guessing this may have already been asked, but what is the difference between UA 150 and UA All America? (Pros and Cons of each, Recruiting value, Selection process, etc.) Thank you .

My two cents. UA is application based. UA Underclass is tryout based. UA 150 no real recruiting. UA Underclass much better for recruiting. UA you pay 650$, UA underclass is free. My kid will be doing both only because she loves to play and while UA 150 will not have the best kids, they will still have good enough kids there for a good tournament. But if you were going to chose one or another Underclass.

FYI. As with everything in kid sports, politics will be involved.


Half right half completely wrong. Yes, UA150 is an application w highlight video and $600+. UA All America is a tryout and free. The biggest difference is UA150 mixes up kids from many different clubs on each UA150 team and UA All America has the regionally selected kids play for their regional team. Thus, UA All America kids generally play on their regional team with some kids they know. Less so with UA150. Most importantly, the recruiting information above is not correct. I was at UA150 last year and there were plenty of brand-name colleges represented on the sidelines. Finally, the suggestion that UA150 will not have the best kids is ridiculous. Don't take my word for it, just look at the posted rosters for the UA150 teams and what club team they play for. M&D Black, Skywalker's, Yellow Jackets etc on every team.

Love this forum. You got 1/4 right 3/4 completely wrong. You only got the regional aspect right. To the original poster not the guy who knows the UA 150 because he was there last year. take a look at the schools that are registered to go there THIS YEAR. There’s 30 teams. And only a handful of top teams as opposed of the more than hundred coaches that go to UA Underclass. Underclass is certainly better for recruiting. But if your kid is looking to go to a school out of that 30, of course it’s a good thing.

Also as for top talent just look at our region. Yes there are good players going from good teams which is why I said it is still a good tournament. But most of the top kids from the top teams are going to underclass and not UA150 as is such with my daughters team which is highly ranked. The top five kids are not going. Yes Maryland does attract more kids to this tournament. But not Ny or NJ. Why because YJ and Steps more invested into UA and Selects.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #381865 05/28/22 03:49 PM
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UA150 has A LOT of talent. It was extremely competitive this year and you see players from the strongest programs consistently represented. under Armour all American will most likely be most 23s and a few very talented 24s

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #381868 05/28/22 04:25 PM
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Did the UA underclass tryouts already happen for Ling Island ?

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #381886 05/28/22 09:19 PM
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Did the UA underclass tryouts already happen for Ling Island ?

No. June 13 and 14.

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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #381899 05/28/22 11:09 PM
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Interesting top 75 sophomores list.
Might want to check the starting lineup’s of the
Playoff games. You left a lot of starters out but
Plenty of kids who dont play are on the list.
Might also want to check last years all conference all
County honors or wait until this years are out. Just
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Re: Girls 2024-4th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #381903 05/29/22 12:40 AM
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Your Sophomore list is a joke. We deserve better from you guys. Do some homework and stop kissing up. Seriously. Some of these girls weren't even on varsity. You have girls on here who literally did nothing on Varsity this year. You guys should really dropped the ball on this one. It's obvious who you guys try to kiss up to.

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