US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys' U15 National Championship Tournament - July 26th-28th, 2013

You are overlooking our hard shelled 2017 friends. They may not win the whole thing but none of the 3 that you mentioned want to play them. They are all hoping that the Turtles get knocked out before they have to face them in the elimination round. They scare the bejezzuses out of everybody including the 3 you mentioned. Make no mistake about it - they want to be the first back-to-back (same roster, not just same program) champions. They are on a mission. Lets cheer them on - it would be cool if they won it.

Group Play Results - Friday, July 26th

July 26 - 10 a.m.

Field 18: Long Island Express Piranhas defeat Utah, 10-4
Field 19: Dukes HHH defeat Florida Carolina, 10-2
Field 25: Brady's Bunch edge C2C Black, 8-7
Field 26: Long Island Express Turtles defeat Florida Swashbucklers, 14-2
Field 27: 3d Select handle For the Love of the Game, 9-2
Field 28: Maverick Select over Triad Elite, 7-6

Sorry pal. I don't think the Prianhas see it that way.

Group Play Results - Friday, July 26th

July 26 - 11 a.m.

Field 18: Long Island Jesters over Next Level, 11-6
Field 19: Storm defeats Colorado 14ers, 9-1
Field 25: Green Machine over Winston-Salem, 10-7
Field 26: FCA defeats NESLL, 13-5
Field 27: New Jersey North East and Colorado Tie, 3-3
Field 28: Long Island Express Barracudas crush Florida Navy, 16-2

dukes up 2-1 away thru 1st half

5-2 dukes 18 minutes left

Group Play Results - Friday, July 26th

July 26 - Noon

Field 18: Dukes HHH defeat Long Island Express Piranhas, 9-2
Field 19: Utah defeats Florida Carolina, 7-6
Field 25: Long Island Express Turtles over Brady's Bunch, 10-6
Field 26: C2C Black defeats Florida Swashbucklers, 8-5
Field 27: For the Love of the Game defeats Maverick Select, 8-1
Field 28: 3d Select defeats Triad Elite, 15-3

That last Turtles score is a little closer than most would have expected based on the results earlier in the morning. Could the lack of depth as the day gets hotter start to be a factor?

Group Play Results - Friday, July 26th

July 26 - 1 p.m.

Field 18: Long Island Jesters edge Colorado 14ers, 7-6
Field 19: Next Level defeats Storm, 8-5
Field 25: FCA over Green Machine, 17-4
Field 26: NESLL over Winston-Salem
Field 27: Long Island Express Barracudas defeat New Jersey North East, 14-2
Field 28: Colorado over Florida Navy, 9-2

END OF POOL PLAY

LI Express Turtles get a #4 seed and a first round bye tomorrow. Express Barracudas got the #1 seed.

No. Other 2017 teams have caught up to them AND they are playing in a fraudulent U15 tournament that not only allows rising sophomores to compete, but it's basically mandatory to have a rising sophomore team in order to be competitive.

You are incorrect when you say that it is a fraudulent U15 tournament. You have the wrong definition of U15 when making that accusation. The current U15 age group was born on or after September 1st, 1997 - that is the exact definition of U15 until the U-brackets roll forward in August.

09/01/97 - 11/30/97 ... Class of 2015 ... 10th Grade ... U/15
12/01/97 - 08/31/98 ... Class of 2016 ... 9th Grade .... U/15
09/01/98 - 11/30/98 ... Class of 2016 ... 9th Grade .... U/14
12/01/98 - 08/31/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 8th Grade .... U/14
09/01/99 - 11/30/99 ... Class of 2017 ... 8th Grade .... U/13

I think what irks people is the "U" piece. What does that mean? In essence there is the probability that boys turning 16 as soon as 36 days (give or take a day) from now are playing in this turnament. So, this is really a 15 years + 329 days or younger tournament. To clear up the confusion they should really just call it a U16 - meaning "U"nder 16.

No. The old US Lacrosse rules made sense. You should not have rising sophomores playing against rising freshmen. The former has been exposed to HS coaching, competition, peers, facilities, etc.

U15 tournaments should not have kids who've played in HS. It is all about US Lacrosse trying to make extra bucks.

The competition in this tournament is awful. A complete waste of time and money. 3 or 4 good teams in the whole thing. No coaches there watching either. That's why the top teams didn't go. Absolutely no reason to go there , wipe out everyone and have a good game in the finals. None of the teams in this thing came close to winning any of the top tournaments this summer - Crabfeast, NSCLA etc.

Elimination Round Seedings - Saturday, July 27th

Seeds for Bracket Play
1. LI Express Barracudas (N.Y.) 3-0
2. 3d Select (Colo.) 3-0
3. Dukes HHH (Pa.) 3-0
4. LI Express Turtles (N.Y.) 3-0
5. FCA (Md.) 3-0
6. Long Island Jesters (N.Y.) 3-0
7. For the Love of the Game (N.Y.) 2-1
8. LI Express Piranhas (N.Y.) 2-1
9. NESLL (Mass./N.H.) 2-1
10. Colorado 1-1-1
11. New Jersey North East 1-1-1
12. Storm (Fla.) 1-2
13. Colorado 14ers 1-2
14. Next Level (R.I.) 1-2
15. C2C Black (Texas) 1-2
16. Brady’s Bunch (Calif.) 1-2
17. Utah 1-2
18. Maverick Select (N.J.) 1-2
19. Florida Swashbucklers 1-2
20. Green Machine (Ind.) 1-2
21. Florida Carolina 0-3
22. Winston-Salem (N.C.) 0-3
23. Triad Elite (N.C.) 0-3
24. Florida Navy 0-3

First/Second Round Playoff Match-Ups - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - First Round - 8 a.m.

Field 18: #16 Brady’s Bunch vs. #17 Utah
Field 19: #9 NESLL vs. #24 Florida Navy
Field 25: #15 C2C Black vs. #18 Maverick Select
Field 26: #10 Colorado vs. #23 Triad Elite

July 27 - First Round - 9:30 a.m.

Field 18: #13 Colorado 14ers vs. #20 Green Machine
Field 19: #12 Storm vs. #21 Florida Carolina
Field 25: #14 Next Level vs. #19 Florida Swashbucklers
Field 26: #11 New Jersey North East vs. #22 Winston-Salem

July 27 – Second Round - 11 a.m.

Field 18: #1 LI Express Barracudas vs. 16/17 winner
Field 19: #8 LI Express Piranhas vs. 9/24 winner
Field 25: #2 3d Select vs. 15/18 winner
Field 26: #7 For the Love of the Game vs. 10/23 winner

July 27 - Second Round - 12:30 p.m.

Field 18: #4 LI Express Turtles vs. 13/20 winner
Field 19: #5 FCA vs. 12/21 winner
Field 25: #3 Dukes HHH vs. 14/19 winner
Field 26: #6 Long Island Jesters vs. 11/22 winner

Anyone down there in person - can you comment on the recruiting value? Are there just a couple or a lot of coaches there? Or would you just put this more in the category of "just fun to be there" with not much recruiting exposure (which may be refreshing).

My arse... They'd have to put together an age appropriate team that hasn't played together all summer. Most likely wouldn't go well... Probably afraid of the bad press it would create. The jibber jabber above is pure hot air. If they thought they had a legit chance of beating the LI clubs in that torn they'd be there... Could be wrong, but until proven otherwise.....

There are no college coaches there. That's why it's a U15 tournament and why rising sophomores - who should be only attending recruiting events - should not be allowed to play.

Stop your whining already about the tournament. The age group is what it is. Did your younger son not make it?

my son went last year as a rising Sophomore - had a great time, good competition great way to end the season and just fun, everything does not need to be about recruiting.....although last year they were not really looking at rising sophs the way they are now and that has really taken a lot of the fun out of all summer lacrosse

Sorry you can't handle the truth. That's why only 2-4 good teams attend this tournament. It's costly to fly down to Florida, and 3/4 of the games are meaningless blowouts.

If they had it in NY or MD, and made it a real U15 tournament, this would be a great event. Only the fields themselves are great.

Almost every U15 summer tournament except this one bans the use of 2016 kids. LOL - this tournament is a joke.

And no, I do not live in Maryland.

why cant sophs go to an event and just have fun. You sond like the problem of lacrosse recruiting

BOTC will be meeting with officials from US Lacrosse during the next two weeks. This entire subject (*) is among the points that will be discussed.

(*) = Only one national tournament at U15, location, age-group enforcement, national player passes, and more.

First Round Playoff Results - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - First Round - 8 a.m.

Field 18: #16 Brady’s Bunch defeats #17 Utah, 7-4
Field 19: #9 NESLL defeats #24 Florida Navy, 10-3
Field 25: #18 Maverick Select defeats #15 C2C Black, 7-5
Field 26: #10 Colorado vs. #23 Triad Elite, 8-7, 2OT

Highlights

Colorado's Isaac "Zip" Waterhouse scores on a behind the head shot with 0:02 remaining in the second overtime to avoid the upset in opening round knock-out action.

First Round Playoff Results - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - First Round - 9:30 a.m.

Field 18: #13 Colorado 14ers defeat #20 Green Machine, 5-3
Field 19: #21 Florida Carolina upsets #12 Storm, 10-7
Field 25: #14 Next Level defeats #19 Florida Swashbucklers, 7-5
Field 26: #11 New Jersey North East defeats #22 Winston-Salem, 8-2

Second Round Playoff Match-Ups - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Second Round - 11 a.m.

Field 18: #1 LI Express Barracudas vs. #16 Brady's Bunch
Field 19: #8 LI Express Piranhas vs. #9 NESLL
Field 25: #2 3d Select vs. #18 Maverick Select
Field 26: #7 For the Love of the Game vs. #10 Colorado

July 27 - Second Round - 12:30 p.m.

Field 18: #4 LI Express Turtles vs. #13 Colorado 14ers
Field 19: #5 FCA vs. #21 Florida Carolina
Field 25: #3 Dukes HHH vs. #14 Next Level
Field 26: #6 Long Island Jesters vs. #11 New Jersey North East

Why ban 2016? Because your kid is a hold back or grade repeater. It's about being the right age, not the grade... no one is allowed to play down. If your kid is 16 he's 16, regardless of whether he's 2017, 2016 or 2015. I know that's a tough concept for some people to understand!!!

Second Round Playoff Results - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Second Round - 11 a.m.

Field 18: #1 LI Express Barracudas defeat #16 Brady's Bunch, 12-5
Field 19: #8 LI Express Piranhas hang-on against #9 NESLL, 7-6
Field 25: #2 3d Select over #18 Maverick Select, 12-4
Field 26: #7 For the Love of the Game crushes #10 Colorado, 15-1

Second Round Playoff Results - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Second Round - 12:30 p.m.

Field 18: #4 LI Express Turtles defeat #13 Colorado 14ers, 16-5
Field 19: #5 FCA defeats #21 Florida Carolina, 13-1
Field 25: #3 Dukes HHH defeat #14 Next Level, 11-5
Field 26: #6 Long Island Jesters over #11 New Jersey North East, 8-6

Quarterfinals - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Quarterfinals - 2:00pm

Field 18: #1 LI Express Barracudas vs. #8 LI Express Piranhas
Field 19: #2 3d Select vs. #7 For the Love of the Game

July 27 - Quarterfinals - 3:30 p.m.

Field 18: #4 LI Express Turtles vs. #5 FCA
Field 19: #3 Dukes HHH vs. #6 Long Island Jesters

Quarterfinal Results - Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Quarterfinals - 2:00pm

Field 18: #1 LI Express Barracudas defeat #8 LI Express Piranhas, 8-4
Field 19: #2 3d Select defeats #7 For the Love of the Game, 10-6

Such a bummer that Baracudas and Turtles won't be able to lock horns. I bet barracudas are relieved they don't have to play them. I'm sure they have doubts they could have beaten the Turtles. Hope FCA wins it now so Turtles can say they gave champs all they could handle.

Quarterfinal Results, Saturday, July 27th

July 27 - Quarterfinals - 3:30 p.m.

Field 18: #5 FCA defeat #4 LI Express Turtles, 8-6
Field 19: #3 Dukes HHH defeats #6 Long Island Jesters, 17-7

You are an [lacrosse]....flopping did not work and yes I was at the game

LOL, your nuts.

Head, Heart, Hustle. GO DUUKES! #teamofdestiny

Team of destiny? You realize we're talking about 15 year old boys, right?

Sad to see you have nothing better to do than live your life through your son.

Semifinals/Finals/Outbracket Matches - Sunday, July 28th

July 28 - Semifinals - 8 a.m.

Field 18: #1 Long Island Express vs. #5 FCA
Field 19: #2 3d Select vs. #3 Dukes HHH

July 28 - Consolation Games - 8 a.m.

Field 27: #16 Brady's Bunch vs. #18 Maverick Select
Field 28: #9 NESLL vs. #10 Colorado
Field 25: #15 C2C Black vs. #20 Green Machine
Field 26: #24 Florida Navy vs. #22 Winston-Salem

July 28 - Consolation Games - 9:30 a.m.

Field 18: #17 Utah vs. #19 Florida Swashbuckler
Field 19: #23 Triad Elite vs. #12 Storm
Field 25: #13 Colorado 14ers vs. #14 Next Level
Field 26: #11 New Jersey North East vs. #21 Florida Carolina
Field 27: #8 Long Island Piranhas vs. #7 fl$
Field 28: #4 LI Express Turtles vs. #6 Long Island Jesters

July 28 - Third-Place Game - 11 a.m.

Field 19: TBD

July 28 - Championship Game - Noon

Field 18: TBD