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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #315584 11/17/20 11:28 PM
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There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton

Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

Loyola has a very good program, Richmond has been on the rise and some of the programs out west have had some very competitive teams.

What the Navy Coach has been able to accomplish is very impressive. Not sure that Navy will be able to be a Top 10 - 20 Program every year but what they have done is amazing. Dartmouth has impressed me in recent years, Michigan has everything they need to break into that group and I believe that Duke will work there way back into the top tier.


What has Navy accomplished other than an occasional upset win ? Dartmouth had a very good coach who left . Duke will be below average in the ACC for the foreseeable future . Michigan has a chance .

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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
TheBackOfTheCage #315592 11/18/20 07:00 AM
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The NCAA announced well in advance of Fall and Winter season start that players would get another year. Why aren’t they doing the same for Spring sports? It is becoming pretty obvious BEST case it will only be a conference schedule with up tick of virus. This will at least give the kids a chance to make an educated decision on if they will get another year. If not, , do they opt out of this year knowing it will be hit or miss, so don’t use the year of eligibility.

NCAA needs to make a call one way or the other to give clarity.

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Anonymous #315597 11/18/20 08:02 AM
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There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton

Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

Loyola has a very good program, Richmond has been on the rise and some of the programs out west have had some very competitive teams.

What the Navy Coach has been able to accomplish is very impressive. Not sure that Navy will be able to be a Top 10 - 20 Program every year but what they have done is amazing. Dartmouth has impressed me in recent years, Michigan has everything they need to break into that group and I believe that Duke will work there way back into the top tier.


What has Navy accomplished other than an occasional upset win ? Dartmouth had a very good coach who left . Duke will be below average in the ACC for the foreseeable future . Michigan has a chance .

Navy made it to the Final Four (the first DI Final Four for any women’s team from a service academy) Navy was a relatively new program in 2017 when the did it, they went to the final 8 in 2018. There are a lot of programs that have been around a lot longer who have not accomplished as much.

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Anonymous #315637 11/18/20 11:59 AM
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The NCAA announced well in advance of Fall and Winter season start that players would get another year. Why aren’t they doing the same for Spring sports? It is becoming pretty obvious BEST case it will only be a conference schedule with up tick of virus. This will at least give the kids a chance to make an educated decision on if they will get another year. If not, , do they opt out of this year knowing it will be hit or miss, so don’t use the year of eligibility.

NCAA needs to make a call one way or the other to give clarity.

The NCAA will most likely hold to the 5 to play 4 rule. It is very unlikely that they will continue to grant additional years of eligibility. Students athletes who were enrolled last spring were granted an additional year so if they op out of school this year (the year) it still counts as one of the five years. It the player was a freshman last year and they opt out this year they will have 3 years of eligibility left.

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Anonymous #315680 11/18/20 05:02 PM
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There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton

Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

Loyola has a very good program, Richmond has been on the rise and some of the programs out west have had some very competitive teams.

What the Navy Coach has been able to accomplish is very impressive. Not sure that Navy will be able to be a Top 10 - 20 Program every year but what they have done is amazing. Dartmouth has impressed me in recent years, Michigan has everything they need to break into that group and I believe that Duke will work there way back into the top tier.


What has Navy accomplished other than an occasional upset win ? Dartmouth had a very good coach who left . Duke will be below average in the ACC for the foreseeable future . Michigan has a chance .

Navy made it to the Final Four (the first DI Final Four for any women’s team from a service academy) Navy was a relatively new program in 2017 when the did it, they went to the final 8 in 2018. There are a lot of programs that have been around a lot longer who have not accomplished as much.

Yes, Navy has done a fantastic job. Dartmouth should compete with Princeton and Penn for The Top spot in the Ivy. No reason Duke can't get back to where they were, with the exception of the past few years they were constantly a Top 20 if not Top 10 Program. Lets see if Michigan can continue to build, they are in a very good position to do so.

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Anonymous #316025 11/23/20 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton
Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

I just looked at Inside Lacrosse Top 50 incoming freshmen rankings / list... it looks like 38 of the 50 or 76% are at the 13 schools listed above. The formula seems to be... the top programs bring in the majority of the top players and they remain the top programs year after year...

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton
Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

I just looked at Inside Lacrosse Top 50 incoming freshmen rankings / list... it looks like 38 of the 50 or 76% are at the 13 schools listed above. The formula seems to be... the top programs bring in the majority of the top players and they remain the top programs year after year...

Or the ranking were done after the girls committed and it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy...

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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
cltlax #316057 11/23/20 02:41 PM
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There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton
Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

I just looked at Inside Lacrosse Top 50 incoming freshmen rankings / list... it looks like 38 of the 50 or 76% are at the 13 schools listed above. The formula seems to be... the top programs bring in the majority of the top players and they remain the top programs year after year...

Or the ranking were done after the girls committed and it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy...

Which came first? The chicken or the egg?

The reality is that those programs consistently bring in the best talent that is why they are consistently considered among the best programs. Coaching will only get a team so far, need to have talent as well. The talent pool has expanded but not by much, the programs listed (especially MD, UNC) still bring in the majority of the best players.

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cltlax #316151 11/24/20 04:51 PM
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There are 10 programs that have been ranked in the Top 20 in the final poll in each of the past 5 seasons (excluding 2020) 2015 - 2019. (Probably the same programs going back 10 years)...

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Northwestern
Syracuse
Princeton
Penn
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida

What programs are on the rise and ready to consistently be ranked among the best year in and year out?

Norte Dame, JMU and Penn State have finished in the Top 20 in four of the past 5 years. Obviously JMU won a National Championship and PSU went to two final fours in that time period.

Will we see more parity in the future? What programs will challenge each and every year?

I just looked at Inside Lacrosse Top 50 incoming freshmen rankings / list... it looks like 38 of the 50 or 76% are at the 13 schools listed above. The formula seems to be... the top programs bring in the majority of the top players and they remain the top programs year after year...

Or the ranking were done after the girls committed and it's just a self-fulfilling prophecy...

Or, people who understand the game tend to identify many of the same players as being in the top tier.

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TheBackOfTheCage #316308 11/27/20 06:04 PM
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So sat watching many replays of final fours this weekend. Can someone tell me why the IWCLA has not recommended replay in college women’s lacrosse? There are some very easy calls that are just missed. In goal circle and one I couldn’t believe on a stick check in a semi game. Also after watching the games from years past why is it the same refs every year on final four games. I am sure they must grade out as best.

I know the game is hard to see everything for refs so we should help them.All other non revenue sports have replay in college.

Just wondering if someone knew the reason.

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So sat watching many replays of final fours this weekend. Can someone tell me why the IWCLA has not recommended replay in college women’s lacrosse? There are some very easy calls that are just missed. In goal circle and one I couldn’t believe on a stick check in a semi game. Also after watching the games from years past why is it the same refs every year on final four games. I am sure they must grade out as best.

I know the game is hard to see everything for refs so we should help them.All other non revenue sports have replay in college.

Just wondering if someone knew the reason.

Seriously? take a second and think of all the things you need to do to provide the refs on the field with instant replay in a timely fashion. you cant just do the final four games this would need to be part of every team, every game all season long..

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Yeah seriously. Put it in D1 first. Almost ever game is streamed. Again replay is in every other NCAA sport that is a NON REVENUE-Baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, field hockey, so why not lacrosse. It makes no sense not to have it.

If they can’t see off the streamed version then don’t over turn it. But put it in the game so when it matters they have it. There was a blatant crease call in one game for example.

There are things that refs don’t see based on angles etc..not fault of theirs. So like other sports it would be a nice aid
To get it right. There has to be a reason that they don’t have this, but pass every other meaningless things.

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Anonymous #316409 11/30/20 10:44 AM
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Yeah seriously. Put it in D1 first. Almost ever game is streamed. Again replay is in every other NCAA sport that is a NON REVENUE-Baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, field hockey, so why not lacrosse. It makes no sense not to have it.

If they can’t see off the streamed version then don’t over turn it. But put it in the game so when it matters they have it. There was a blatant crease call in one game for example.

There are things that refs don’t see based on angles etc..not fault of theirs. So like other sports it would be a nice aid
To get it right. There has to be a reason that they don’t have this, but pass every other meaningless things.


I call BS on other sports having instant reply all ready in place.. there is no way that someone is working the instant reply machine in Womens Field Hockey.

I get your point it would be great if they could do it, but there is not the budget, the availability of technology, equipment or referees to make it happen.

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Anonymous #316425 11/30/20 01:23 PM
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Yeah seriously. Put it in D1 first. Almost ever game is streamed. Again replay is in every other NCAA sport that is a NON REVENUE-Baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, field hockey, so why not lacrosse. It makes no sense not to have it.

If they can’t see off the streamed version then don’t over turn it. But put it in the game so when it matters they have it. There was a blatant crease call in one game for example.

There are things that refs don’t see based on angles etc..not fault of theirs. So like other sports it would be a nice aid
To get it right. There has to be a reason that they don’t have this, but pass every other meaningless things.


I call BS on other sports having instant reply all ready in place.. there is no way that someone is working the instant reply machine in Womens Field Hockey.

I get your point it would be great if they could do it, but there is not the budget, the availability of technology, equipment or referees to make it happen.

College field hockey actually has something called a video referral. The players can call for a review if they disagree with a call.

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TheBackOfTheCage #316458 11/30/20 09:09 PM
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You can BS if you want. But first do you research. There is review in NCAA field hockey, softball, baseball, volleyball.

Watch the BIG Ten or ACC network for these sports. Why do you think i was asking the question-this is where I saw it.

So the technology is there for games. And most importantly it will be there for playoffs where it is needed most.

I think there may be a bigger reason the IWCLA is not asking for this to be added as other sports already have it in place.

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