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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse for the Boys 2024-8th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 season.

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Looking forward to another thrilling year for our 2024's! I know a lot here has had contentious arguments and disagreements on many topics. But I think we can all agree, that if we're here, it can't be all that bad! These are 1st world type problems. Good luck to all our boys!!

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!

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costs up everywhere.. most are between 2,800 to 3,800 . JUst make sure you get you moneys worth with training. Good Coaches make the difference.

Great point and topic. My question becomes what do you get with the program and cost. # of tournaments, # of practices, # of coaches, # of players on the roster, etc? So for $3k what should you expect? How many kids are too many on a team?

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but, shut it. Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!
Yeah PACK AND GO already!!!


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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but, shut it. Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!


Agreed. Hopefully we can get past the juvenile comments this year and have some actual dialogue. If not, everyone please ignore them. They will eventually go away and find some attention elsewhere.





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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but, shut up. Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!


Agreed. Hopefully we can get past the juvenile comments this year and have some actual dialogue. If not, everyone please ignore them. They will eventually go away and find some attention elsewhere.


Yes, actual good dialogue is what we All want. Everyone should create a Registered Account to post so that i)so we can see the screen name of the poster, ii) people become familiar with the poster, & iii) so that we can hold the users accountable even though we can still take action now when posting anonymously but it will make posters think twice about what they write -- If you & everyone else starts to register, the others will follow & then we can change the permissions so only registered forum members can post ascertaining for a clean forum - Register Today & Take Initiative www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/newuser.html

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but, shut up. Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!


Agreed. Hopefully we can get past the juvenile comments this year and have some actual dialogue. If not, everyone please ignore them. They will eventually go away and find some attention elsewhere.


Yes, actual good dialogue is what we All want. Everyone should create a Registered Account to post so that i)so we can see the screen name of the poster, ii) people become familiar with the poster, & iii) so that we can hold the users accountable even though we can still take action now when posting anonymously but it will make posters think twice about what they write -- If you & everyone else starts to register, the others will follow & then we can change the permissions so only registered forum members can post ascertaining for a clean forum - Register Today & Take Initiative www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/newuser.html


Instead of encouraging people to register why don't you moderate the forum like you should

1) Delete comments that are inappropriate or bring no value to the thread
i.e. Madlax > wolfpack

2) When a Maryland guy comes on the long island thread and makes a comment about how long island stinks......move it to the maryland forum

These are just a few examples of how you could make the threads more informative and productive. If you keep deleting some of the people with butt comments, they will eventually go away

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Madlax >>> Wolfpack

But if you want to quit a tournament after losing one game and getting placed in the lost's bracket, WP might be right for you.


Not even a WP parent but, shut up. Its past old. Move on. Go have a catch with your son!


Agreed. Hopefully we can get past the juvenile comments this year and have some actual dialogue. If not, everyone please ignore them. They will eventually go away and find some attention elsewhere.


Yes, actual good dialogue is what we All want. Everyone should create a Registered Account to post so that i)so we can see the screen name of the poster, ii) people become familiar with the poster, & iii) so that we can hold the users accountable even though we can still take action now when posting anonymously but it will make posters think twice about what they write -- If you & everyone else starts to register, the others will follow & then we can change the permissions so only registered forum members can post ascertaining for a clean forum - Register Today & Take Initiative www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/newuser.html


Instead of encouraging people to register why don't you moderate the forum like you should

1) Delete comments that are inappropriate or bring no value to the thread
i.e. Madlax > wolfpack

2) When a Maryland guy comes on the long island thread and makes a comment about how long island stinks......move it to the maryland forum

These are just a few examples of how you could make the threads more informative and productive. If you keep deleting some of the people with butt comments, they will eventually go away


Exactly right. Botc has been down this road multiple times in the past couple of years. When this site is not anonymous, not one person posts. Nobody. That’s obviously not going to work. Botc claims to be “Fully Moderated” yet I’ve been here for years and have never witnessed any kind of “fully moderated”. It’s simple. Delete all dumb posts that bring no value to the site. Otherwise, why pay someone to moderate the site? In the words of legendary coach Bill Billecheck, DO YOUR JOB.

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costs up everywhere.. most are between 2,800 to 3,800 . JUst make sure you get you moneys worth with training. Good Coaches make the difference.

Great point and topic. My question becomes what do you get with the program and cost. # of tournaments, # of practices, # of coaches, # of players on the roster, etc? So for $3k what should you expect? How many kids are too many on a team?


This post is obviously from the owner of a club, trying to figure out how much he can gouge us.

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try

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costs up everywhere.. most are between 2,800 to 3,800 . JUst make sure you get you moneys worth with training. Good Coaches make the difference.

Great point and topic. My question becomes what do you get with the program and cost. # of tournaments, # of practices, # of coaches, # of players on the roster, etc? So for $3k what should you expect? How many kids are too many on a team?


This post is obviously from the owner of a club, trying to figure out how much he can gouge us.



Why would you thing that? Those are valid points that every parent should be asking. Things like including helmets and gloves, or even uniforms make a difference by several dollars.

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.

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all these clubs are money grabbers that could less about any of these kids. They want to win for their OWN benefit. They will rope you into more training for extra money. Then if your kid is successful they will take all the credit. How about the majority of kids that don't play in college? All those year of training and money....I guess that all didn't pay off. These guys are snakes, be careful y'all, bottom line is your kid looks for you to protect him and steer him correctly, don't get caught up. Yes, I learned the hard way with my sons.

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try


Didn’t that taz team just go to wsyl finals over teams like bbl, eclipse, true Illinois, b love. Can’t win? Comment is silly

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costs up everywhere.. most are between 2,800 to 3,800 . JUst make sure you get you moneys worth with training. Good Coaches make the difference.

Great point and topic. My question becomes what do you get with the program and cost. # of tournaments, # of practices, # of coaches, # of players on the roster, etc? So for $3k what should you expect? How many kids are too many on a team?


This post is obviously from the owner of a club, trying to figure out how much he can gouge us.


100% wrong. I was actually looking for opinions not ridiculous comments as I am wondering if we are at the right club. We like the price and the training model but have questions about the roster size (25 kids.)

P.S. People like you are what stinks and the general state of society. You are a pot stirrer that cant engage in normal conversations. Thanks for adding no value to the site or the world in general. Crawl back in to your hole and dont come out until you walk upright.

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Who is the coach?

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.


Not a Tazzie, but I can tell you this troll is clueless and just fishing. With the new additions from the tryout, looks like Taz will be very strong this year.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.


Not a Tazzie, but I can tell you this troll is clueless and just fishing. With the new additions from the tryout, looks like Taz will be very strong this year.

guess this is coming from a taz parent or coach

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.


Not a Tazzie, but I can tell you this troll is clueless and just fishing. With the new additions from the tryout, looks like Taz will be very strong this year.

guess this is coming from a taz parent or coach


Absolutely not. If you are familiar with Taz, then you know that they have some top talent on that team. Last year their problem was they just didn’t have enough, due to the kids jumping ship and going to Wolfpack. Their nucleous was very good, but they had some big holes. Sounds like they have plugged at least some of those holes. Time will tell, how many. Regardless, Taz will most definitely be better than last year, and last year for the most part they did quite well, all things considered.

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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?



Express took a few igloo backups and B team kids.

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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?



Express took a few igloo backups and B team kids.


Sounds like Express will crack the big 4-0 on the roster this year. That Chan is one smart hombre.

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Should be interesting if any of the LI kids are reclassing from 23 to 24 this yr

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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?



Express took a few igloo backups and B team kids.


Igloo still a good team - still ranked top 3/4 in Long Island in all grades
http://www.USCL.com/2025-rankings.html

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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?



Express took a few igloo backups and B team kids.


Igloo still a good team - still ranked top 3/4 in Long Island in all grades
http://www.USCL.com/2025-rankings.html



OMG are you really referencing that site? Igloo is fine. Probably 4th on the island in 2024 and in top 25 on east coast not bad.

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Hearing all the top igloo players went to either Taz or Wolfpack. Both teams will benefit nicely. But what happened to Igloo? That was a good team. There can’t be anything left. A very good thing for Taz, who had a lot of holes to fill. Any go to Express, or anywhere else?



Express took a few igloo backups and B team kids.


Igloo still a good team - still ranked top 3/4 in Long Island in all grades
http://www.USCL.com/2025-rankings.html


Bro, all their best kids are gone. Team will play in B tournies this year.

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Should be interesting if any of the LI kids are reclassing from 23 to 24 this yr


Maybe within Express. But I don’t think you’ll see it on any other AA team.

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How did all the clubs do after tryouts? Who is still looking for players? Anyone fall in the AA vs A or jump up?

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.


“With one of the best coaches for the future”. Can you explain that comment? Taz has had a different head coach almost every year since their inception. The coaching carousel of all 2024 teams, to be sure. Talking about “best coaches for the future” is a laughable statement, based on Taz’s history in this area. And with the exception of the Keenan years, the results from the coaching is open to scrutiny.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.

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TAZ cant win no matter how hard they recruit and try
Taz is already a winner. With one of the best Coaches for the future. You keep going for the shirt. Learn what it is all about.


“With one of the best coaches for the future”. Can you explain that comment? Taz has had a different head coach almost every year since their inception. The coaching carousel of all 2024 teams, to be sure. Talking about “best coaches for the future” is a laughable statement, based on Taz’s history in this area. And with the exception of the Keenan years, the results from the coaching is open to scrutiny.
one of the best advocates for a players future. Will be there for every player. That’s the truth .

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.

I don't have a problem with 91 being on top - but as you go down the list it becomes very sketchy. How did this site all of a sudden become the go to site for for ranking club teams. It was just started a little over a year ago and was able to get traction on Instagram using the Follow Unfollow technique used by many wannabe social media people. If you are going to do a comprehensive ranking system at least get your systems right. Getting the top 5 is easy. Anyone can tell you the top five teams. It's the rest of the field that deserves real attention. Has anyone looked at these ranking. Would love to hear your thoughts.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.

I don't have a problem with 91 being on top - but as you go down the list it becomes very sketchy. How did this site all of a sudden become the go to site for for ranking club teams. It was just started a little over a year ago and was able to get traction on Instagram using the Follow Unfollow technique used by many wannabe social media people. If you are going to do a comprehensive ranking system at least get your systems right. Getting the top 5 is easy. Anyone can tell you the top five teams. It's the rest of the field that deserves real attention. Has anyone looked at these ranking. Would love to hear your thoughts.


Wow! That site must be on your mind 24/7. Why don't you just stop beating around the bush and enlighten us with what you think the top 10 ranking should be. Then we're going to guess your son's team and your biases (which will be your son's team, your friends' teams, your wife's boyfriend's son's team.. in that order). In the end, your ranking will be just as dumb.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.


Whenever someone says, "Not a ** parent", that person is in reality, that ** parent. Nice try.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.

I don't have a problem with 91 being on top - but as you go down the list it becomes very sketchy. How did this site all of a sudden become the go to site for for ranking club teams. It was just started a little over a year ago and was able to get traction on Instagram using the Follow Unfollow technique used by many wannabe social media people. If you are going to do a comprehensive ranking system at least get your systems right. Getting the top 5 is easy. Anyone can tell you the top five teams. It's the rest of the field that deserves real attention. Has anyone looked at these ranking. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Agree it is young and shady that it is owned by 91 but they are the only ones out there using Tourney Machine data to determine rankings. Unfortunately it looks like their data set is not complete and their algorithm needs some work but it is better this year than last.

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Question. Who the heck is US Club Lax . People have all of a sudden started promoting their rankings. Has anyone looked. They are for the most part totally flawed. Perhaps the top 2 2024 teams are on point but everything below is highly questionable. The domain was only registered in 2017. I remember them trying to get follows on Instagram last year by following and unfollowing kids.

Does anyone have the scoop on who controls this site? It's almost impossible to find out where these ranking are coming from.


The domain is registered to a guy in NJ. And guess who bought his lacrosse club? Dynamic Sports aka 91. The site is a complete 91 hoax.


Sounds like you take exception to the rankings. Not a 91 parent, but hard to make an argument for 91 not being the number one ranked team, if we are being honest. Amazing what they have accomplished in a very short period of time.

I don't have a problem with 91 being on top - but as you go down the list it becomes very sketchy. How did this site all of a sudden become the go to site for for ranking club teams. It was just started a little over a year ago and was able to get traction on Instagram using the Follow Unfollow technique used by many wannabe social media people. If you are going to do a comprehensive ranking system at least get your systems right. Getting the top 5 is easy. Anyone can tell you the top five teams. It's the rest of the field that deserves real attention. Has anyone looked at these ranking. Would love to hear your thoughts.


they are not accurate at all. They didnt even use the 2024 Nationals in Maryland tourney for ranking purposes. No telling what tournaments they used and if teams even played in the ones they used. Lot of teams who beat a team are 20 spots below that team that is just ridiculous. Top 2 teams correct but after that gets bizarre.

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