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Chaminade exposed as a fraud!! You keep your kid there, You should talk to someone, you sound like an Angry troll! And you're fighting a lost battle! Keep defending sex abusers! Sicko!!

Sounds like they have lots of great players that will end up being either walk ons or end up being picked up late in the game, but also sounds like the teams that get them will be glad!!

How come when ever someone has something negative to say about Chaminade they always bring up the cost to go there or the reputation that has been established over the years? St Anthony's Kellenberg St Mary's Sacred Heart Trinity ect are no walk in the park cost figures either.
Rude awakening people bottom line is no matter who you are or what occupation / vocation you choose you are first and foremost a human being. A priest is human first and decides he wants to love that life as is a policeman lawyer physician teacher ect. So get your head out of the sand teach your children and grandchildren right from wrong. Be involved in you families lives so hopefully nothing ever happens poorly to them.
Instead of slamming the school you should be offering moral and emotional support for the individual involved.

How come when ever someone has something negative to say about Chaminade they always bring up the cost to go there or the reputation that has been established over the years? St Anthony's Kellenberg St Mary's Sacred Heart Trinity ect are no walk in the park cost figures either.
Rude awakening people bottom line is no matter who you are or what occupation / vocation you choose you are first and foremost a human being. A priest is human first and decides he wants to love that life as is a policeman lawyer physician teacher ect. So get your head out of the sand teach your children and grandchildren right from wrong. Be involved in you families lives so hopefully nothing ever happens poorly to them.
Instead of slamming the school you should be offering moral and emotional support for the individual involved.

Of course they will, because they cling to there HS experience like it matters once you move on to college. Now we can see the termite infested foundation the whole place is built on. And the alumni are going to rush in to shore it up before anyone notices. Too late now.

No, they will support the school monetarily because they believe it to have been an important part of their lives. And they will support It because they realize that there are a large number of people who agree with them, and want their children to attend but need monetary assistance. In the current economic environment, particularly on LI with our tax issues, any tuition might be too much for some families. So the alumnae supports the school to help defray those costs.

They will also offer vocal support because they know the school's foundation isn't termite infested. They know this is a serious charge and issue, but as far as they know it is one man, not the entire order. Defending the school isn't the same as supporting it. I doubt you will hear any alums try and defend Fr. James, but supporting the school which has been damaged by him is a different story.

How about when the catholic church knew about the wide spread abuse of children and did everything they could to hide it, is that what you're talking about? The powers at be in your beloved school knew about this case years ago, they too did everything they could to hide it. Are those the kind of values you support? The school IS the people that run it. It is an
arcane, sick environment that needs to change. Sorry, but an all boys environment is akin to an all you can eat buffet for the overweight. I imagine that this incident will reveal years of abuse by multiple individuals, as many more victims will hopefully now have the courage to come forward. The best thing you can do is to rally your fellow alumni around some real a definite hard core change. What wacko would send their son to that place? (btw I'm catholic, so no need to go there)

Am I reading this wrong or are you people bringing the sexual abuse by a few priest into the Chaminade thread ? How pathetic. So Rabbis don't donit also ? What about non religious people ? I'm pretty sure ANY college has the highest regard for a Chaminade diploma. Lax is such a tiny aspect of why kids go to the school

Am I reading this wrong or are you people bringing the sexual abuse by a few priest into the Chaminade thread ? How pathetic. So Rabbis don't donit also ? What about non religious people ? I'm pretty sure ANY college has the highest regard for a Chaminade diploma. Lax is such a tiny aspect of why kids go to the school

So most of the kids on the lax team are going purely for the education and the learning experience and the playing part is less then 10% of the reason???. Sad to say I think you are way off on that one

So most of the kids on the lax team are going purely for the education and the learning experience and the playing part is less then 10% of the reason???. Sad to say I think you are way off on that one

No that is not what I'm talking about. I am talking about this specific incident, not the history of abuse cases in the Catholic Church.
And with respect to did the "powers to be" (your phrase)do everything to hide it? I don't know. Did they act immediately to remove Fr. Williams from his post? Seems like they did. Did they take him at his word that he was innocent (which he continues to declare), no they didn't. Did they investigate and act upon the results they found, yes. During that time was Fr. Williams even allowed interaction with students?, no. Now did they publically announce what was going on with Fr. Williams, no they didn't.
Perhaps because there are more than a few cases of false accusations. Lets assume that you coach a little league team and one of the kids said you were touching him. Would you expect that to be announced to the local newspaper and Channel 12 if you were vocal that it wasn't true?

Not sure why you are so insistent that it is some sort of perverted place, with debauched men having their ways with dozens of scared little boys. I spent four years there, my sons were there for a stretch of eight years. None of us ever saw or experienced an unwanted action from anyone. As to the single sex environment, I actually laugh at what you seem to conjure up in your mind. Read the recent article in Vanity Fair about the Seven Sisters, the all women colleges that are elite centers of learning. the author went in with preconceived ideas about what she would find and was shocked at how wrong she was.
My daughter went to Sacred Heart, after 8 years in public school. She was thrilled to get away from the BS, and peer pressure to be cool with the boys. She didn't want to worry about if she had a cool skirt or if her hair was combed just right. And guess what she also missed out on the experiences like Rainbow Parties in the ninth grade. if you aren't sure what a Rainbow Party is ask a tenth grade girl at most public schools.
Or perhaps you've read about St. Paul's, the elite coed prep school in NH? There the upperclass boys have a contest to screw as many underclass girls as they can, and keep a running log to be shared with their fellow students.
I seriously doubt that Chaminade has a monopoly on inappropriate behavior, and I also believe they have a faculty and staff that cares about their students more than most.

So wage your campaign against Chaminade, The Catholic Church, single sex education and all the other groups you think have exclusives on misdeeds. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there are still going to be about 1500-1750 wackos looking to send their sons to Chaminade.

I also hope that in your little circle of friends and family none of them ever does something wrong and needs your help or support.

It took 4/5 years for them to release this? Why?

The act is abominable and the cover up, either on purpose or through indifference is worse. He resigned and got out of town, typical move to just allow a molester to do this to others.

Shameful.

Because he has protections from slander. If the Nassau DA didn't bring charges once informed then it's done. The school can't tell everyone he's a child molester on the word of a student. It's a he said/he said incident. What cover up?

Then why did he "resign" and disappear?

That doesn't mean you can legally "out" the guy. He's guilty, but only in the public eye. In the eyes of the law he hasn't been charged. Can't disclose the allegation and his name based on hearsay.

Then why did he "resign" and disappear?

Am I reading this wrong or are you people bringing the sexual abuse by a few priest into the Chaminade thread ? How pathetic. So Rabbis don't donit also ? What about non religious people ? I'm pretty sure ANY college has the highest regard for a Chaminade diploma. Lax is such a tiny aspect of why kids go to the school

Because the school told him that he had to, and then they removed nim from any contact with students while they investigated the allegations. At that point they had no idea if the allegations had merit, but took the steps to ensure no additional activity in event the allegations were found to be true, or in their words 'credible'.
He didn't disappear, the whole Chaminade community knew he was in Rome.

Right. So you quietly let him resign and disappear. I have seen a bigger deal made out of football coach cursing on a bus.

Can't selectively hold to higher standard. Oblivious there was enough there for them to hide him and tell DA. He doesn't need to be convicted before letting people know. I see plenty of people in Newsday before they have their day in court.

OK, so let me be clear, the man has legal protection from the school telling ANYONE that he is a pedophile, or was engaged in inappropriate behavior. Legally, the school cannot divulge the facts of this case. Even if YOU want them to, they can't. Again, you see names in Newsday (trash) after the DA has charged them. Remember the Tawana Brawley case? Al Sharpton is still on the hook for millions for that one. Not similar but the Duke scandal, the DA took the word of a hooker/stripper over the boys on the team (Chaminade kid) and look how that ended up. Sorry if you want

the school to divulge UNVERIFIED facts, not going to happen. Clear?

Any college has respect for the Chaminade diploma? Check out how many Chaminade boys applied to Clemson and how many got accepted. Unless you are playing lacrosse in college or applying to a school in NY, most don't have any regard for it.

You are completly Delutional if you think Colleges have no Regard for a Chaminade diploma or any Catholic diploma . I am a English and Language Arts Teacher at a Local University, and you absolutly can tell the diffrence between a student who went to Chaminade or a Public School just on handwriting alone. And no I'm not a Chaminade Alum.

Any college has respect for the Chaminade diploma? Check out how many Chaminade boys applied to Clemson and how many got accepted. Unless you are playing lacrosse in college or applying to a school in NY, most don't have any regard for it.

Let's count the spelling and grammar errors from this teacher:
1)completly
2)Delutional
3)Colleges capitalized
4) Regard capitalized
5)Describing a diploma as "Catholic"
6)"a English" - should be "an English"
7)"Local University" capitalized
8)absolutely
9)Public School capitalized
10) "..handwriting alone" - should be "based on their handwriting."
11) Last sentence - no comma
12)Alum capitalized

They did stress they were not a Chaminade alumni.

I am. Is that the proper use of alumni? Alumnae? Alumnus? That's why I stick to graduate. ;-)