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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161131
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Not good either. My final standings will stand at the end.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161151
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I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161154
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


No, I am not one of the passionate parents and I'm not sure who you are talking about the middie for Crabs, I don't know any of them. I have seen that team and they have several big players, who they are I have no clue.
My point is that there are some who come on this board and pound this into the ground and I really get tired of seeing it, and for those people it is an issue.
My point was you cannot compare a freshman playing high schools lacrosse with an 8th grader playing against older players in youth lacrosse. In high school, it covers 4 grades.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #161155
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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #161173
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The middie everyone is referring to got completely shut down today by kids two years younger than him. Nothing impressive about him except his 5 o'clock shadow.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161181
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


You are a Crab apologist. Why does this child get an advantage over other children?? If he can play down..others should be allowed. The lacrosse world doesnt just rotate around the world of holdbacks..Anyone with common sense knows it is wrong at the YOUTH level..well except for people like you.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161226
04/24/16 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


You are a Crab apologist. Why does this child get an advantage over other children?? If he can play down..others should be allowed. The lacrosse world doesnt just rotate around the world of holdbacks..Anyone with common sense knows it is wrong at the YOUTH level..well except for people like you.


He's in 8th grade. He played with Crabs 2019 for the last two years while he was in 6th and 7th grade. He is not repeating a grade this year. I ask again, should he not be allowed to play lacrosse because he repeated a grade in lower school for academic reasons? It's a grade based league. I'm sure he thought about gaming the system when he was in 3rd grade and having issues in school. Get a grip.

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04/24/16 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


You are a Crab apologist. Why does this child get an advantage over other children?? If he can play down..others should be allowed. The lacrosse world doesnt just rotate around the world of holdbacks..Anyone with common sense knows it is wrong at the YOUTH level..well except for people like you.


He's in 8th grade. He played with Crabs 2019 for the last two years while he was in 6th and 7th grade. He is not repeating a grade this year. I ask again, should he not be allowed to play lacrosse because he repeated a grade in lower school for academic reasons? It's a grade based league. I'm sure he thought about gaming the system when he was in 3rd grade and having issues in school. Get a grip.


He is two years older regardless of the "reasons" . He should play with kids his own age and if none available then wait until next year. NOT put all the other kids who are the right age at a disadvantage in a YOUTH lacrosse league. It is not up to others to ensure he has a place to play when he is 2 years older. Think his parents would realize that it is not all about just their son despite what decisions and when he got there. Fine adults these kids are going to be thinking everyone owes them something.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #161239
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Crabs are joke. Full of talentless holdbacks who play against younger kids then pound their chests when they win. Classless.

Re: Boys 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #161242
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


You are a Crab apologist. Why does this child get an advantage over other children?? If he can play down..others should be allowed. The lacrosse world doesnt just rotate around the world of holdbacks..Anyone with common sense knows it is wrong at the YOUTH level..well except for people like you.


He's in 8th grade. He played with Crabs 2019 for the last two years while he was in 6th and 7th grade. He is not repeating a grade this year. I ask again, should he not be allowed to play lacrosse because he repeated a grade in lower school for academic reasons? It's a grade based league. I'm sure he thought about gaming the system when he was in 3rd grade and having issues in school. Get a grip.


Maybe he was in 6th and 7th grade when he played on Crabs 2019 but how old was he? He is now either 16 or close to 16 and playing on a 2020 team with most kids 13 or 14 years old. Plus he would not have missed a year playing with Crabs 2019 this summer because he presently also plays for Boys Latin's 8th grade team. Isn't that enough lacrosse for him this spring or was it that R.McClernan saw an opportunity to get another older/bigger player on his 2020 team. I truly think you need to get a grip. You are clearly a Crab parent/fan.

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Re: Boys 2020 [Re: TLaxOne] #161244
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That kid is almost 16!!!!!! In 8th grade. Are u kidding me? Not to mention all the other holdbacks. It is comical.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That kid is almost 16!!!!!! In 8th grade. Are u kidding me? Not to mention all the other holdbacks. It is comical.


And so is the FCA d pole but I guess that's ok.

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That's just as pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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That kid is almost 16!!!!!! In 8th grade. Are u kidding me? Not to mention all the other holdbacks. It is comical.


And so is the FCA d pole but I guess that's ok.


No that's not okay either except to their parents, their coaches and apparently Howard county. FCA has improved this year due to the influx of more mature players and they think nobody noticed. The kid is driving for goodness sake and repeated to get into CH. congratulations FCA on your fine values.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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I'm not a Crabs parent and have a 2020 boy who is playing on age, but this is getting tiresome. This will be a non-issue for these boys next year. Each 2020 team (elite and "non" elite) has some boys who could be in 9th grade based on their birthdate. I know some parents feel very passionately about this, but I really think that the majority of the 2020 boys just want to play lacrosse and do not care if they are playing against "holdbacks". I think most of these boys hope to play varsity next year and will be on the field with boys 3-4 years older.


True statement about some 2020's, if they make varsity as freshman, will be playing against players 2-4 years older and that is accepted, as it covers grades 9 thru 12.
That is much different than playing youth grade base lacrosse with players in the 8th grade who should be in the 9th and quite a few in the 10th grade. At the youth level, it is well known which teams game the system to gain an advantage and make it part of their operating program while other teams have a few holdbacks, mostly due to academic reasons.
This isn't really a non issue, it is some clubs taking advantage and violating the spirit of grade base lacrosse. Many of these holdbakcs are not because of their birthdate but because their parents had them repeat either the 7th or 8th grade.
I, like you, am also tired of seeing this but like you said there are some who are very passionate about this. And, the players know who the holdbacks are and on certain clubs do not respect them, due to why they are holdbacks.
I would like to see age based youth lacrosse and put an end to this process and regardless of what grade a kid is in, he plays where his age dictates.


Well it's obvious from some of the words you used that you are one of the "passionate" parents. If it's the reason for the holdback that bothers you, why does everyone flip out about the middie for Crabs. He went to prefirst and repeated a grade in elementary school for purely academic reason. But according to you all he is "gaming the system". He played on on 2019 the last couple years, but can not do so this year because they are in high school. So you would prefer he not play lacrosse this spring? There are different reasons for everything and people speak about things they don't know. You all should worry about your own sons and not who wins and 8th grade lacrosse game.


You are a Crab apologist. Why does this child get an advantage over other children?? If he can play down..others should be allowed. The lacrosse world doesnt just rotate around the world of holdbacks..Anyone with common sense knows it is wrong at the YOUTH level..well except for people like you.


He's in 8th grade. He played with Crabs 2019 for the last two years while he was in 6th and 7th grade. He is not repeating a grade this year. I ask again, should he not be allowed to play lacrosse because he repeated a grade in lower school for academic reasons? It's a grade based league. I'm sure he thought about gaming the system when he was in 3rd grade and having issues in school. Get a grip.


Just because the kid needed to start school later than his peers, and then was left back for academic reasons has nothing to do with the physical development of his body. Cognitive development and physical development are two totally different things. Academically he needed help, athletically he does not and should not be playing with kids 1-2 years younger. It is disgraceful that his coach and his parents did not encourage him to play with his peers all along. It is still not acceptable- period.

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