Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to Boys 2023 (11th Graders) & Fall 2021/Summer 2022 season.

Any info on FLG 2023’s ?

Thinking about joining FLG 2023
Anybody got some information on them?

Your thinking or you want you kid to tryout? Can't just join lol

2022's are starting to officially reclass. It will be interesting to see how many over the next few weeks who are committed reclass.

Why would they reclass if they're already committed?

Maybe they don't like the schools they committed to, or they never committed to begin with.

They know that they are not going to play right away, so they reclass and do a PG year. Come in a year older and ready to compete for play time. I know of 2 2021's that did this. I think its crazy, but now a couple of 2022's have done it. I hope this is Not a trend and these kids have ridiculously crazy parents.

How did the tryouts go for everyone?

Some teams got better such as 24, and some got worse.

FLG got worse

Why do you say that?

Who cares at this point? Just play. If it can get you into a good school that’s great.

Flg had a good run few years back. Everyone should know when it’s time to call it a day. Flg is done

This! Be with a club that is going to help your son find a lax program that suits their needs d1 or otherwise. My sons club didn’t hold a tryout. Didn’t hose us for $75. They asked those that are serious to come back. They have laid out how they will help this year. Class act if you ask me.

And what club was this?

Agreed, good run there boys teams are donzo!

S2S

That’s because they knew enough would come back to field a team. How many at this age had tryouts? Most importantly everyone brought back their checkbooks. And not for nothing but 4K a year is just plain notIntelligent. Shame on all of us.

A club that knows enough will comeback is bad how? All I know is my kid has been with the same team for several years. He has had good coaching and a good all around travel lax experience. Is your kids club offering this year up for free?

New conversation with a positive tone. 2023 is a strong class with many outstanding kids at traditional schools / clubs e.g. Chaminade, St. A, Manhasset, Team 91, Express, S2S, etc. (not intentionally missing other schools / programs). What is equally important and more impressive is other non-powerhouse schools and clubs are making an impact with kids being seriously looked at by top D1-3 programs. I have been to several tournaments and showcases this summer and there is a wealth of talent and so much less parent drama. Parents seem to get the joke that coaches are looking at everything now and they need to behave. It has been a exhausting but fun summer to watch my son play. Enjoy every moment because I have had parents with older kids say that you will miss it immensely when they are done. Best of luck to everyone and remember, there is a program (if he wants) for all of our boys whether it is club all the way to D1.

Yes

Are there any good recruiting events to go to locally in the Fall?

Does anyone know about the 365 Showcase Team? Their site shows a lot of commitments but I haven’t seen them around but maybe that’s because they are attending top/invitational events and small….interested in doing in and wanted to get some feedback from anyone. Much thanks in advance.

Give the kid a break and take him fishing!

This! Be with a club that is going to help your son find a lax program that suits their needs d1 or otherwise. My sons club didn’t hold a tryout. Didn’t hose us for $75. They asked those that are serious to come back. They have laid out how they will help this year. Class act if you ask me.[/quote]

And what club was this?[/quote]

S2S[/quote]

That’s because they knew enough would come back to field a team. How many at this age had tryouts? Most importantly everyone brought back their checkbooks. And not for nothing but 4K a year is just plain notIntelligent. Shame on all of us.[/quote]

A club that knows enough will comeback is bad how? All I know is my kid has been with the same team for several years. He has had good coaching and a good all around travel lax experience. Is your kids club offering this year up for free?[/quote]
Yes[/quote]

And what club is that?

I was more alluding to the fact that it costs this much, and at this age there isn’t much movement so they had a good idea the roster would be set. All these guys are in it for the money. That’s almost $100k for the team. Oh but they paid for sports recruits website. Gee thanks.

This! Be with a club that is going to help your son find a lax program that suits their needs d1 or otherwise. My sons club didn’t hold a tryout. Didn’t hose us for $75. They asked those that are serious to come back. They have laid out how they will help this year. Class act if you ask me.[/quote]

And what club was this?[/quote]

S2S[/quote]

That’s because they knew enough would come back to field a team. How many at this age had tryouts? Most importantly everyone brought back their checkbooks. And not for nothing but 4K a year is just plain notIntelligent. Shame on all of us.[/quote]

A club that knows enough will comeback is bad how? All I know is my kid has been with the same team for several years. He has had good coaching and a good all around travel lax experience. Is your kids club offering this year up for free?[/quote]

I was more alluding to the fact that it costs this much, and at this age there isn’t much movement so they had a good idea the roster would be set. All these guys are in it for the money. That’s almost $100k for the team. Oh but they paid for sports recruits website. Gee thanks.[/quote]

You still haven’t mentioned what team your kid plays for. All of these clubs are in it to make money. It’s a business like any other. If your kid is still in it as a rising junior you are hoping for a scholarship or extra merit money or helping them get into a school that maybe they wouldn’t have without lax. Nobody said you have to pay. People join these clubs on their own free will. And if your club is relying on recruiting sites alone then I feel sorry for you. What’s you are paying for us connections and exposure. Even without much movement some clubs held tryouts at this age and charged their current players for it.

What team he is on is irrelevant. All I was saying was that it’s ridiculous how expensive it is and everyone is lining up for it. For “connections” etc. what team you are on, what level doesn’t matter. And my kid doesn’t even pay full price and it still boggles my mind. So your team (are you the S2s poster?) didn’t have tryouts but they knew they’d have a full roster. Great they saved everyone $100. They are still taking in a boatload of money. But at least they made people feel good about it. Not right or wrong. We’re all rowing in the same direction right? 1-2 more years of this right? Good luck to you and your kid. Hopefully it works out for everyone. Funny after this many years in it and now my youngest just started. Ugh.

And what club was this?[/quote
A club that knows enough will comeback is bad how? All I know is my kid has been with the same team for several years. He has had good coaching and a good all around travel lax experience. Is your kids club offering this year up for free?[/quote]

I was more alluding to the fact that it costs this much, and at this age there isn’t much movement so they had a good idea the roster would be set. All these guys are in it for the money. That’s almost $100k for the team. Oh but they paid for sports recruits website. Gee thanks.[/quote]

You still haven’t mentioned what team your kid plays for. All of these clubs are in it to make money. It’s a business like any other. If your kid is still in it as a rising junior you are hoping for a scholarship or extra merit money or helping them get into a school that maybe they wouldn’t have without lax. Nobody said you have to pay. People join these clubs on their own free will. And if your club is relying on recruiting sites alone then I feel sorry for you. What’s you are paying for us connections and exposure. Even without much movement some clubs held tryouts at this age and charged their current players for it.[/quote]

A rational poster. Glad to see it.

I agree with you. Next summer is my kid's last year of this. He's is the youngest. Looking back now, my first two, one played college at a high level, the other didn't. The one that didn't, enjoyed himself 10x more than the one who played D1. Both graduated, live out of state, and are supporting themselves. The kicker is, my kid that played D1, plays on a local men's baseball club and enjoys every minute of it. My kid that played D3, plays golf during his free time. Neither had any interest in lax after college. Take lax for what it is worth, if you are wealthy, your kid can afford to fumble around with lax. If not, your kid needs to find a college offering course study he wants to pursue, putting lax second. Most importantly, neither one of my first two kids moved back home after college. Be careful what you wish for!

Great post

Any predictions on the elite 8 tournament next week in Del. Are those really the top 8 -

How did they get better? Did they get some new players??
Do they have 1 team or 2 teams for the 2023’s

Congratulations to those who committed already. I'm hearing quite a few committed to West Point and Annapolis today. God bless them and Good Luck.

Of course not, but that never stopped anything. Inside lacrosse and USClub lax rankings make zero sense and screw everything up

Not with Connecticut Grizzlies and Jesters Black not going

91,91 and 91!

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

Surprised to see a very low number from LI on the list.

Lol. Love the birthdays on these kids.

Yup! Not as many holdbacks on LI

These LI 2023’s are 2024 and 2025 pretty much everywhere else. No real surprise if you ask me.

91 showed why they are #1 - not even the combined igloo shore2shore team made it to the finals.

You’ve got more 22’s on LI in the 2023 class than you think.

Everyone knows the kid Inside lacrosse hires is all about Maryland and past few years as hard as he tried Long Island players were at the top three straight years. This year it was debatable and he did what he wanted. He goes to MIAA games in spring attends zero LI HS games so he enters summer knowing every MD kid yet pretends to know them all. Reason you are seeing so many different sites do rankings. LI kids are younger and better in the long run because of it

the #1 2023 is a reclass who wanted to be #1 but the '22 #1 is so much better, but he should be a 21.. but whatever..

In fairness he did go to the Chaminade v St Anthony’s game.

Just as importantly, the Inside lacrosse 'kid' doesn't go to New England Prep games, where a huge percentage of top D1 players come from every single year. Kids from all over the country go to these boarding schools and play some of the best day schools like Brunswick. Anyone who is sitting in Maryland watching only those games all Spring is missing out on arguably the most competitive league in the country.

Pretty much goes for everything these days. UA underclass is the best of the kids that try out. Not always the best in the country as they say.

I agree. I do club for a memorable high school experience. At top 30 teams in state you can’t just do Recand get playing time anymore in high school.

If they play in college that is on them to push themselves.

The top 100 players a year can get picked up from just playing and getting noticed. The rest of each year has to approach the schools and go to I’d camps.

How does LILJ come up with there list, some of the names on the honorable mention never seen the field.

Isn’t the #1 ‘22 a holdback too? It’s the 91 way!

Most of the top 10 in a class are a reclass. Not all, but most

That’s a shame. Sad that gaming the system has become the norm. Makes me even prouder of my boys for doing things the right way(not cheating) and going on to start and contribute on their high level HS and college teams. Integrity and character means something in my family.

Good question

Well the list is a long list. Seems like they pulled names out of a hat. There is one kid that reclassified to the 2024 year on there. He never played for his HS but is listed as attending that school Has been in prep school for a while now. Played this past year as 24. So obviously they just pulled names that they heard of.

When are the good '23s going to commit??

On age 23’s? Not for awhile

My son's HS has two kids on the list, one was on JV all season and the other played maybe 15 minutes all year on varsity, meantime there was two all division players on the team not on the list.

Does anyone know how 2023 kids are committing without going to Prospect camps?

The best ones the first few weeks of school usually!

Some kids have played in front of coaches multiple times already, hs/club coaches have vouched for them.

They will ignore this forever....LI kids are all younger and better off for it, except for the ones that are held back or reclass...

You’re delusional trying to push the narrative that all the LI kids are on age. They are not.

The top tier of kids heard from coaches on Sept 1- the first day of open recruiting, and will be committing in the next few days/weeks, after they make their choices after having official visits, as many of these kids are getting multiple offers. They have already been scouted during the HS season, and at summer tournaments, showcases and prospect days.

When they ask you to visit a school how likely is it they will offer a scholarship?

When they ask you to visit a school how likely is it they will offer a scholarship?[


For my older ones, it was a mix. My Daughter got offers from 2 schools she visited. They were both her top choices so she only visited those schools. She is also a great student My son was a little different. We visited 5 schools with him. Walked out with 2 offers. 2 of other 3 contacted him later with offers. 1 made no offer. He is not a great student. GRADES MATTER!!

When you say offer you mean a spot on the team, correct? Not really scholarship.

Both my kids got a spot and some money

I realize we are coming off a COVID year and some coaches still recruiting 2022's and its only been 2 weeks BUT I am very surprised at how few commits to date. Clearly this is going to be a long dragged out process even for the best.

S2S has announced at least 5 off one of their teams already.

5 sounds pretty aggressive considering that most of the top kids in the class are not committed yet....what schools?

I was looking at a recruiting website and last year (not including the service academies) there were 74 commits compared to 36 for this year by today's date.

I see 4, Dartmouth, Harvard, Navy, Syracuse, One 4 star non-committment...

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/club/team/Shore+2+Shore+2023+OG%27s/6619/2021

Did the owner's kid commit?

Bandits have 4 committed as well.

That's it? Well, I guess you need high grades to get in to most great schools.

100%

Saying you won the World Series of Lacrosse, or am on the A team or AA team all means squat if you don’t have the grades for some of the top schools. That said, some of these rockstars will go D2 or D3 because that’s what makes sense for them. Kids on the B teams will actually get a chance to play in College (the horror). The full-ride doesn’t exist. So hopefully you saved and your kid studied. All the things you as parents stressed over being on the A team, being a starter means almost nothing anymore. The pool of talent is way bigger than LI. Congrats to those have committed and those that will. I hope they all pick schools that are right for their future. Lax will end. They will then need to be productive adults.

Sounds like a guy full of pre made excuses and btw buddy it is not a race to commit it is about the kid finding the fit.

Parent of a 2022. If your son is one of the best in the grade (mine is not), the grades do not matter. The coach will get him into the school. So do not worry. If you are a solid player and have amazing grades, your son is better off forgetting lacrosse and going to the best school he can academically. Otherwise he will be dumbing himself down just to play lacrosse, which can get taken away in a minute. Either an injury, coach change, world wide pandemic. Choose the beat fit foe your son.

It will be interesting to see if any lax rats on the top AA team go to college just for lax and wind up working for my son.

No excuses and I was the one harping that the numbers seem small. I have been through it before. Let’s see where your kid winds up. I just think people should be open to the fact that it my not be how you imagined….

I believe the reason the numbers are not higher is because people are taking their time. Most people I have spoke with want to make sure the fit is right academically, socially and lacrosse wise. No need to rush at this point. All the top players and even the next tier players have had contact with coaches. Find the best fit.

This is one of the absolute densest posts ever.

hahaha most likely.

I saw an IL tweet that 100 juniors have already committed since sept 1st. Wow!

Saw the Rebels had a pair of commits yesterday

Well aren't they just the best! Definitely the best club to be on hahah

What is the commitment process for D3 schools? Do they ever have pre-regular admission verbal commitments like the D1's?

Huh? Think that was just an update. If your this petty over a club assume you may have been cut from it. However, more of an excitement to see more Long Island D1 guys! All about guys finding the right spot. At this point I think we have a consensus on just rooting for future success for these young men.

Rebels, FLG, 91, Express, Igloo, and Legacy all get criticized here consistently. But if college recruiting is the agreed end game these are the clubs that have the most success. There are only a few clubs with consistent D1 commits and top D3 commits each year. For the last 8 or more years the only clubs that can say that they have many D1/top D3 commits are 91, Express, FLG and the Rebels which continues its success from the Outlaws. Igloo and legacy getting some traction and may be able to match these clubs if they can put together another 5 or more consecutive years of successful recruiting. After those clubs you have clubs like icon who had one good year of recruiting and that is it. Let’s see if clubs like S2S and others who will have a great year this year can keep it up for as many years 91, Express, FLG and Rebels/Outlaws have been able to. Say what you want about these clubs but they have all done well for recruiting despite the consent bashing here.

Aren’t we over the club bashing at this point? Now more than ever it doesn’t matter if your kids club is better than mine. Who wins and who loses doesn’t matter. If you haven’t focused on your kid over the last few years now is the time. Get over it. Travel is a done deal for our boys. On to the next chapter. May they find schools that will make them successful in life and if they get to play lax along the way great.

You have to lead a miserable life to post snarky comments at this point. It so weak, hopefully your children don’t follow in your footsteps. What ever are you going to do next year? Such a lost, enjoy your pathetic life.

Aren’t we over the club bashing at this point? Now more than ever it doesn’t matter if your kids club is better than mine. Who wins and who loses doesn’t matter. If you haven’t focused on your kid over the last few years now is the time. Get over it. Travel is a done deal for our boys. On to the next chapter. May they find schools that will make them successful in life and if they get to play lax along the way great.

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Finally someone with common sense, good luck to all the boys I hope they all find a great fit for them at the next level.

If you read the longer quote it is not bashing any clubs. From these post that you commented on there was one person who bashed the rebels. The other two posts were actually positive posts about different clubs.

I believe May, verbally confirms their top recruits, June pre-admin, July 1 offers.... there might be some interactions before may, but that's the basics.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments?class=2023&league=1

A lot more than this time last year I think

according to ty xanders a few days ago as fo 9/22 - 90 commits in 21 vs 160 in 20 vs 35 in 19

Any of the following "B" teams get any 2023 college commits?
Turtles
True Blue
FLG

Any of the following "B" teams get any 2023 college commits?
Turtles
True Blue
FLG

I'm a True Blue parent I know one player committed to UNC and there is another 4-6 players talking with D-1 schools. I hope this helps your sarcastic post.

I’m pretty sure the the high school got those kids recruited. But truth be told that true blue team had the best coach that program had and he’s done coaching for them now.

I agree, the Massapequa coach was very good. Unfortunately not in power any longer.
The Turtles organization is a joke.
FLG doesn't have any 2023 recruits yet, but will soon.

Yes the UNC commit on True Blue plays for such a powerhouse High School True Blue had nothing to do with it. I get ya True Blue isn't 91 but stop you sarcastic remarks when does it end on here.

I have kids that have played on both 91 and Express AA team over the years. I know the TB team well and there are some very good players on that team at the 23 group. Maybe not a top top team but again some very good individual players. Had a good 20 team too. Congrats on the UNC LSM - he is legit. Parents on bigger clubs must be so pissed. I am not surprised that there are some other boys on that team talking to D1 coaches. Best of luck to them and all our LI boys.

I think the college coaches are just recruiting the best players regardless of club team or high school. If you are a good player and go to a showcase or 2 and attend the prospect day of the school you are interested in attending it works out. FLG, TB, 91, Express - good players get found. There is 2021 at Hopkins now that played ICON. I had never heard of ICON or seen them at any tournaments.

Icon 2021 was a top team for 2021. Would beat top express and 91 teams at times. Owner has many connections. It was a shock when he could not build off that team. The Hopkins kid was well known from 8th grade and committed at that time to Syracuse. But later went to Hopkins. For 2021 only a few clubs had many d1 commits. 91AA, Express AA, FLG, Igloo, Rebels, icon and Legacy. Those are the only ones that had more than 5 d1 commits. The rest had zero or at most 1 or 2. It helps to be on a club team who has a history of success at recruiting or a top team even if on top for only one year.

I had 3 boys play in the program and From my experience at Tb there is zero help in the recruitment process at their program. I’m not bashing them I’m not trash talking them I’m speaking from experience. My oldest boy had to literally do everything on his own for the recruitment process. My second son no longer plays travel lacrosse and my third is in 7th grade playing for another club that has been very successful in getting kids placed where they belong for college lacrosse as per some close friends past experiences. Tb isn’t a bad program but unfortunately Idt they put the effort into the final chapter of the kids lacrosse chapter

I think the college coaches are just recruiting the best players regardless of club team or high school. If you are a good player and go to a showcase or 2 and attend the prospect day of the school you are interested in attending it works out. FLG, TB, 91, Express - good players get found. There is 2021 at Hopkins now that played ICON. I had never heard of ICON or seen them at any tournaments.

This is absolutely true colleges can care less what travel program you are on. They want the best athletes/players for there team. Good luck to the boys...

You are spot on. If only the parents of younger kids new this. Play for the best team you can AND also get plenty of playing time. That is the key.

What do you do when you think your son is on one of the best teams but gets blown out at tournaments and the director keeps telling the parents how great their connections are but the kids aren't getting recruited?

When reaching out to coaches, should it be through a recruiting site (sports recruits etc) or just through normal email?

If your are really asking this question at this point in your kids travel career, you have missed the boat. How long have they been getting blown out? Does your kid see the field and perform well when he is out there? It isn’t always about the win at this point. Have their been lots of recruits in the organization in previous years? These are al things you should know. Also, maybe your kid isn’t as good as you think they are. Not every kid is going to get recruited. Not every A team kid goes D1. The pool is way bigger than LI. Be realistic about your kids ability. Pick schools they want to go to and then see if lax will follow. I would also speak to your coach and ask how he will help through the recruiting process. If they aren’t going to help do some research and have your kid start reaching out.

I don’t think it was a real question. But if it was your answer was very good. The only other thing I would add to it is are there a lot of coaches on the sidelines at your kids games? Keep in mind some of the lower top clubs that are able to get into the best tournaments will schedule a game or two against teams like crabs, 91, express etc. just to get In front of a lot of coaches who are watching those better teams players. It is actually a great strategy and very effective. If a coach sees your kid perform well against those clubs he can definitely make their list for a follow up view of the kid. The bottom line is hope coaches are coming to watch your kids game and those coaches are from schools your kid would like to go to. If that is not happening then maybe he is on the wrong club. At the very least go to showcases/ prospect camps and hope that the coach likes the kid and Follows to watch him at a club event. That is the way it usually works. A kid is spotted either at some event or showcase/Prospect camp then they come to the club game to follow up to confirm what they saw. Or if he is spotted at a club game he’s asked to come to a prospect camp to confirm what they saw. It is not rocket science. You just have to be on the field in front of coaches of schools your kid wants to attend. Wins and losses mean nothing.

Would you even bother attending a camp or prospect day if the school-who you have sent film to and have touched base with at the appropriate times in the process (not being overbearing) has not peeped at your highlight video or even your profile?

I think the answer is yes but I would also be curious to hear what other think.

The D1 coaches are calling names from the top recruiting showcases. Most top schools are looking at videos but only interested in the big boys. D2 schools are interested in anybody, and D3 doesn't really care until year 2022.

These coaches get hundreds if not thousands of emails and videos sent to them. If No one was calling the coach of the desired school for your son. Chances are he or his assistants didn’t look at the film. Be honest with your assessment of your sons skills and if you believe he has what it takes to compete at the desired school. Go for it.

There is no set answer and each kid takes a different path. For example, my older guy plays d1 and got many calls September 1 of his junior year. His calls ranged from top d1 to probably top 35 lacrosse schools. Funny that he got no calls from lower level d1. In fact as time went on and he got more calls from d1 very few were from lower level schools. I bring this up because he never emailed lower level schools. So email contact is very important. Also, he went to only three individual college prospect camps. The rest he relied on showcases where there were many schools and club recruiting tournaments. When talking to coaches they seemed to have seen him at top recruiting showcases and club tournaments. I will say although he did get offers from many schools where he did not attend their prospect camp some of those schools asked why he never attended even though he was invited. My advise would be go to showcases where your target schools and many other coaches are at and only target a handful of individual camps. If he is not getting looks or calls you need to get to showcases where there are a lot of coaches to see him. If they like him they will either overlook that he did not go to the prospect camp or tell him to go to the prospect day at some point.

My son had an injury so unfortunately missed the entire summer. He is now completely recovered and is signed up for a few showcases this Fall. One of the showcases is invite only and there will be a lot of coaches in attendance. What is the protocol for these showcases, should he email the coaches of schools he’s interested in beforehand to ask them to give him a look? If he plays well is it possible that coaches he didn’t reach out to beforehand would reach out to him? How proactive do you need to be?

Also, are these school prospect days just a money grab or do colleges actually scout the kids who show up seriously? My son was invited to a couple of big showcases over the summer that he couldn’t attend and now he gets email blasts from tons of schools to attend their prospect days (I’m assuming they got his info from these showcases but I guess it could come from somewhere else).

Any legit feedback would be helpful since we’re from a non lacrosse hotbed and my son left his club team so we’re doing this a bit on our own (my son blamed the head coach for his injury during a meaningless spring scrimmage, whether it really was the coach’s fault or not doesn’t matter bc my son is convinced he wasn’t looking out for his best interests and wouldn’t play for him again).

Your last paragraph is concerning. A coach set up a scrimmage to continue to develop your son and give him more game experience. Your son got hurt during that and it was the coaches fault? Would it have been the coaches fault if it was a tournament? He could have opted out of the scrimmage if it was beneath him. Sounds like your kid has some growing up to do.

That being said he needs to market himself. Send videos to schools he is interested in. He should attend prospect camps at schools on his list or showcases that have a lot of coaches attending. He should be prepared for questions about his injury and why he left his club. We are relying on connections that our club coach has and have him listed as a contact. College coaches want kids who are coachable. They will talk to the club coaches. Burning a bridge at this point in the game probably wasn’t a god idea. Life lesson for your kid.

What are the top showcases for the fall?

Definitely not 91 they are all rigged.

Man this has been quickest pace of recruiting I recall in some time. And that’s what is just recorded, has to be dozens more. Wow!

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments?class=2023&league=1

Kids are from all over the country.

I would definitely do research on showcases. Some are really good. However, it’s based on overall talent and then team placement. Worst is being an attackmen and your team loses every faceoff. I think there is more of a benefit to prospect days, as long as your expectations are honest. If your son is not in the top 75 players, think long and hard before signing up for an ACC or Big 10 prospect day.

The November 7th showcase at Farmingdale College, does anyone know what colleges are attending?

I don't know but I will say a coach told my son that it is important to really look closely at the showcase to see what players are going. For the 2023 class, because so many players have committed, very often the best don't go to the showcases but go tourneys instead. The coaches want to see the players versus the best and if they don't go to the showcase that can make it hard. So while coaches may be at a particular showcase, they may not be thrilled with the competition if committed players are not attending. I can't speak to the veracity of this comment across the board as it was told to my son from just one coach.

There is also a PSAT being offered that day which may cut down on participation.

And I think it’s run by the same guys that do the my state thing so any effort put into the kids or extra run whatever will be to the kids in their team.

And I think it’s hot or miss. My son went to 2, one was great, the other not so much

You will here and get a lot of contradicting information. It’s not that people are wrong it’s what they experienced. I have 2 older kids and both recruiting experiences were different. I would look at the coaches attending if a school your son wants is there then go. Every chance he gets to play in front of the coaches of the schools he wants to attend is a good thing. He he will have a chance to meet them ans show what type of person and player he is.

November 7th is a Sunday and I believe PSAT's are given on Saturday. The Igloo showcase on November 6th is a premier event because, from what I understand AA pays very good money for the coaches to be there. The hope / expectation is that these coaches stick around for the team tournament on Sunday which is recruiting tournament only for 2023/2024 teams. This ticks the box for many LI teams that already have committed players since it is close to home and allows coaches to keep an eye on their recent commitments and for the uncommitted players to play against good competition. If your son is a great player then sign him up for the showcase on Saturday. If his team is not invited to the tournament on Sunday then ask your teams coach / director to reach out to coaches with teams in the tournament for a guest spot (if they will even allow that).

The 2023's play mid afternoon and into late Sunday night, do you really think these coaches are sticking around that late after being there all day Saturday.

Great question and I do not have the answer. A big part of their job is recruiting and November is the last big push to see a lot of good players in one place so I hope they stick around. If you look at https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/commitments?class=2023&league=1 there is still a lot of room at very good schools and that it just the D1 schools. There will be a several excellent D3 programs attending as well so I do hope they stick around.

I think they are going to stick around. Penn, BU, GT, JHU and a few other are pretty full on 2023s but many of these schools still need to complete their classes so I think they will stick around. But what do I know.....

Is registration still open for the individual showcase on Saturday?

There's a few low level D1's still looking for 2023's. Providence, Cleveland, Mercer, etc.

What is that suppose to mean?

That's a silly comment. If you look at inside lacrosse and the total number of commits that have been taken, thee are plenty of top spots available at top 20 schools. Just one example. Duke has no defenseman selected yet. I think they are a pretty good team. Also putting Providence with Cleveland State and Mercer shows the level of knowledge from this poster.

Come on now, you know Providence is at the bottom. Don't try to hype it up.

The 2023's play mid afternoon and into late Sunday night, do you really think these coaches are sticking around that late after being there all day Saturday.[/quote]

I think they are going to stick around. Penn, BU, GT, JHU and a few other are pretty full on 2023s but many of these schools still need to complete their classes so I think they will stick around. But what do I know.....[/quote]


Is registration still open for the individual showcase on Saturday?[/quote]

There's a few low level D1's still looking for 2023's. Providence, Cleveland, Mercer, etc.[/quote]

That's a silly comment. If you look at inside lacrosse and the total number of commits that have been taken, thee are plenty of top spots available at top 20 schools. Just one example. Duke has no defenseman selected yet. I think they are a pretty good team. Also putting Providence with Cleveland State and Mercer shows the level of knowledge from this poster.[/quote]

Come on now, you know Providence is at the bottom. Don't try to hype it up.[/quote]

About 300 2023 D1 commits announced. 70ish D1 teams x 10+ per class means there are still 400-500 spots left. Plus D2/D3/MCLA. Lots of good opportunity to play lacrosse in college

Where can we find a list of what college coaches will be at the Fall Classic in Farmingdale this weekend?

Do you think Duke doesn't already have their commits locked down?

If you anything about recruiting, every top 25 program locks down some so called 5/4/3 Star kids. They are also looking all the time after that to replace them.
Every top program will still take 2023's if some emerge and they always do. If you take Top 100 lists from years past, look at how many never ever play. More than you think. The Prep schools get some early looks, and the the cream from the Public school rises to the top(Especially LI). Always have, always will. Notre Dame loves the Prep school, Chaminade/st Antony kids. How many Championships do they have? I would Take a Public school kid 7 days a week, before the way over rated Prep school Babies

This is not about prep or private school babies. Some schools want to make sure the kids they bring on campus can do the school work. I am not saying the public school kids cannot but all schools on LI are not equal.

It will be fun to watch these commits who are going to the highest academic D1 schools and see what happens to them.

Of coarse some great kids come out of prep schools. Very fine skilled players. Many are hold backs. That’s not a huge thing in public schools. On a whole the Public school kids are just tougher. Do not really count STA as prep school. If you got a check book you can get in.

It will be fun to watch these commits who are going to the highest academic D1 schools and see what happens to them.[/

It will be fun I hope they all have success in the classroom and on the field. I wish them nothing but the best.

More success in the classroom since they won't be seeing the field.

Wow, Someone is bitter that their kid didn't get recruited by a top school

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.

It will be fun to watch these commits who are going to the highest academic D1 schools and see what happens to them.[/

It will be fun I hope they all have success in the classroom and on the field. I wish them nothing but the best.[/quote]

More success in the classroom since they won't be seeing the field.[/quote]


Wow, Someone is bitter that their kid didn't get recruited by a top school[/quote]

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.[/quote]

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.[/quote]

That kid will go to Harvard, not see the field, and then get indoctrinated into the woke culture. After college he won't be able to do any job other than coaching my grand kids lacrosse.

More success in the classroom since they won't be seeing the field.[/quote]


Wow, Someone is bitter that their kid didn't get recruited by a top school[/quote]

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.[/quote]

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.[/quote]

That kid will go to Harvard, not see the field, and then get indoctrinated into the woke culture. After college he won't be able to do any job other than coaching my grand kids lacrosse.[/quote]

And you’ll be watching your grand kids because your son ran off with Sinamin, the stripper and baby mama of his 5th kid. All because you are a bitter never been d bag. My kid gets in to Harvard because of lax and never plays I’m good with that. PLL isnt the goal.

More success in the classroom since they won't be seeing the field.[/quote]


Wow, Someone is bitter that their kid didn't get recruited by a top school[/quote]

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.[/quote]

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.[/quote]

That kid will go to Harvard, not see the field, and then get indoctrinated into the woke culture. After college he won't be able to do any job other than coaching my grand kids lacrosse.[/quote]

Such nonsense, just more jealous and bitter drivel.

Wow, Someone is bitter that their kid didn't get recruited by a top school[/quote]

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.[/quote]

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.[/quote]

That kid will go to Harvard, not see the field, and then get indoctrinated into the woke culture. After college he won't be able to do any job other than coaching my grand kids lacrosse.[/quote]

Such nonsense, just more jealous and bitter drivel.[/quote]

Shows that you haven't been through the system.

Prep school babies??? what are you 12?

Thats nice way to put it.

It’s great to be a Outlaw,

Josey Wales

People are oblivious. They think their kid is the next Rabil and smartest kid on the planet.[/quote]

So true. Hear it ALL the time, how great the kid does in school and on the field. Over the weekend, another father from the opposing team began with small talk, then the conversation changed to how great his kid was. It was the last game and I responded about 5 minutes into his speech, "You gotta be kidding me, if you are going to stand here and explain to a 60-year-old man how great your 17-year-old kid is.[/quote]

That kid will go to Harvard, not see the field, and then get indoctrinated into the woke culture. After college he won't be able to do any job other than coaching my grand kids lacrosse.[/quote]

Such nonsense, just more jealous and bitter drivel.[/quote]

Shows that you haven't been through the system.[/quote]

Lacrosse is so overrated. After it's all said and done post-H.S. no one is going to care what our kids did in H.S. let alone college.

Team 91 Bandits dominant at IMLCA in Orlando against some very strong competition. LI made strong showing with S2S and an undermanned Team 91 Warrior Squad both preforming well. Great chance for uncommits to show college coaches what they can do.

Isn’t there like 13 or 14 Bandits committed? I’d say that’s very impressive.

Actually it's unimpressive for the supposed best team in America.

Things a little slow in the Huntington area today 🤔

What LI club has the most commits for this grade?

Looking it up looks like
91 has 14 official commits but hear there’s another that’s been done awhile and deciding on PG or not

Express has 9 that I have found

Igloo has 8 comitted this is a surprisingly low number as that team is very talented
Think many kids are taking time as the Covid effect has hit scholarship dollars personally believe many 23’s will decide to go to a prep school for a year as roster are extremely flooded

Not sure where you got your facts from, but looking at Inside Lacrosse Recruiting Database https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/club/team/Igloo+2023+Black+Diamond/3127/2022
looks like Igloo Black Diamond has 17 commits.

Looks like Shore 2 shore has done pretty well also. 11 on inside lacrosse site.

Igloo has 16 players committed! this is a fact!!! Going to Georgetown, Villinova, Army, Syracuse, Michigan, Navy, Lafayette, Harvard, Colgate, High Point, Bucknell, Vermont, Quinnipac, Yale, Hopkins

That’s great looks like LI kids are doing just fine. It doesn’t matter when it happens it just matters that it happens as far as comittment. It’s not a race kids need to just choose the right place and schools need to find players so sometimes the fit takes longer to develop happy for those kids

Have there been any commits from B teams in any of these organizations? I wonder if they are getting any help from their directors. And are we only praising D1 commits?

91 warriors have 2 or 3 D1 committed players.

As the parent of a kid that plays for a NLF team (not from LI) we rarely see or hear about Igloo. What a great list of college commitments!!

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.

91 Warriors are tough!! They have some undersized players but they are tough kids and play hard.

BORING

In the grand scheme of things, what is it worth?

Kids that are tough and play hard? In the grand scheme of things… a lot. A good education, a solid work ethic laid as a foundation which will help them not only at the next level, but in the corporate world in whichever industry they choose.

Warriors are the red headed step child to Bandits and every other A team.

Lol - check your facts on that one - a number of kids listed were guest players for the igloo team at a tournament. Igloo once prided themselves as being a all LI only in house team. Now they take any and all to get a W. Sad

Anyone know what teams are going to the Stonybrook showcase on MLK day. I heard its in the bubble.

What help has your club given or is giving to get your kid recruited? You don’t have to name the club if you don’t want. Just curious what clubs are doing.

Pretty sure 91, and Express have done this for years. Need to to be competitive. It’s about what good kids you can get to play for free to make the club look good at the expensive of the paying customers. Been like this for a long time!

Here's the list of coaches for the MLK Showcase @ Stonybrook.
https://cblaxers.com/ny-showcase/

It's actually about fielding a team that will allow all the boys to look and play their best to get recruited.

I am disappointed in the help my sons B team is giving in terms of recruiting. Is there a place I can find upcoming showcases and tournaments? I am a single mom and this is my first kid so no clue how to find these things.

Wacky lax....They do not have a lot of stuff posted right now but they will in the coming months. They have a page on their website dedicated to showcases and prospect days. it does not list all of them but each year they post a good amount. Beginners Lax also has a page on their website for prospect day and showcases. Good Luck.

Contact the school coaches he is interested in. The coaches will let him know when they have prospect camps. He'll need to fill out a recruiting form on their website.

First get really good highlights together, do not exceed 3 min. Put the best highlights first. And send that out with an engagement letter to every school your son is interested in and can play at. And catalog the responses and non responses from each email and plan showcases and prospect days accordingly. Keep the letter simple, intro, personal bio and reasons the school is on the short list of schools. Finish it off with good luck with the upcoming season, I look forward to meeting you and your coaching staff at upcoming prospect day and/or campus visit. Also include your summer tourney schedule and see which one they might be attending.

Good luck

Thank you all for the civil responses on where I should start!

Anyone know if the D3 Showcase Monday in CT could be cancelled due to weather? I emailed them and not getting a response. Weather looks crazy!

There is an indoor one in Jersey on Monday. Been there in the past with older son. Very well attended

Do yourself a favor and zero in on the BEST SCHOOLS offering academics pertaining to the career field he has an interest in. For example, if he has an interest in becoming a pharmacist, why would you send him to a school with a strong business program, if he has no interest in business, just to play lacrosse?

I heard their are some clubs running a 2022 varsity team is this true?

I think all clubs have a “varsity” team. Generally it’s 10-12th grade kids.

And if there is a school he is really interested in, don’t wait.

Look up their lax program web site… right now is prospect day season! For example Maryland has theirs this weekend coming up…he may not be Maryland material, but you get the point.

So don’t wait….

Express does not do this. the 2023 Haugen team has been together along time, the is no out of state kid on the team. All Long Island or NYC except for one Westchester kid.

And a lot of those kids are committed. So what’s better take that route and play mostly with kids or recruit from everywhere to ensure your team is best? Point is the premium on winning is above all.

I think the point is to be on a team that attends the right events and is competitive. You don't want to be playing in the Long Ireland tournament, you want to be at Naptown or similar. Also, you to be on a team where you can be on field to be seen, no good to be on Igloo where a guest player comes in and takes your reps away. Winning is great, but playing competitively at the right tournaments is more important.

So what’s the recruiting roundup? Kids are still committing but at a trickle…even a few B team commitments, but with all the 5th years, it looks like a struggle for many deserving kids.

High level and high academic D3 is wide open with terrific school choices. No need to shoot for DUKE.

From speaking with someone on the inside the game has changed with the transfer portal. All coaches are looking at established players first. Those in the know think it will slow down in 2/3 years - once the “5th year” COVID players use up eligibility but the portal is here to stay. Colleges are looking their first for many players. If a college can get one or two “men” not boys who have competed on the collegiate level to transfer they will take them over a high school boy whose talent is unknown. This is not for the 4 and 5 star players but for those as described as “deserving” in the above post. Think about the numbers, if programs take a couple of transfers per year the math just makes it such many kids will not be recruited. Again this is for the fill in players at D1 not the stars.

Boys Recruiting Thoughts and Help for the Masses

I posted this in the “Boys High School Lacrosse” forum but I am posting this in the 23’s, 24’s, 25s. since they will be affected most by recruiting just to try and generate more conversation as I am curious to other's thoughts

I apologize ahead of time as this is a VERY VERY long post so I left a[b] TL;DR summary[/b] at the top. There are also likely errors in this so I welcome any corrections. I also suspect these thoughts may hold true for the girl’s game but I don’t know anything about girl’s recruiting. Yes, I have too much time on my hands now the kids have moved on.

I am posting this as anonymous – I’m not notIntelligent (haha). This may generate a lot of thoughts, positive or negative but the point is to get a discussion going because I find there is very little actual recruiting help on these forums. I am sure many of the replies will be “bitter parent” “Ok Rebel Parent” or “team91 parent” or “Stunad” or “legacy dad” or “your kid graduated, why are you still on these forums you creeper”, etc. This is just one person’s opinion as someone who has gone through it (kid was a middie, on-age who ended up in a good D3 school) but had some D1 looks / offers so maybe this can be used to help others (or maybe I’m a coach……..). If you feel the need to comment, try to post something constructive. If you don’t like the post; scroll on by.

You may agree with 0%, 50% or 90% of it. It is important to note that these are just generalizations on a Bell Curve; there are always exceptions to the rules: there are some who got recruited way above their pay class and there also talented people who fell far in recruitment. This should apply to most but there are definitely outliers where people have forged their own paths. Tell us your stories!

For those whom this is TL;DR

1) Talent and connections trump everything, which leads into…
2) … being realistic about your kid’s ability as many parents cannot be “objective”
3) Be cognizant of how much you are projecting your own hopes and dreams onto your kid – don’t be that parent.
4) Some of you feel like you are running on a “Hamster Wheel” when it comes to recruiting. Find out what “Hamster Wheel” you want to be on – don’t be afraid to change wheels midstream
5) Have “fun” – but to be perfectly honest, if you are at the level where you are hoping to be recruited, I am not going to sit here and say having fun is the only thing that matters because that is BS. That being said, having fun is still important whether it be lacrosse, long road trips with your kids, having a meal with them, visiting colleges – all are fun.
6) Whatever college or trade school you kid ends up in, it will be perfectly OK in the end
7) Don’t believe what everyone tells you (including me). What may have worked for someone else may not work for you as I can guarantee you kid is so very different from everyone else.
8) Lacrosse is finite – don’t make short term decisions with long term consequences. It is Ok to sacrifice saying “my kid got into a low D1 school with poor academics” just for the sake of being D1. It will be better in the long run to apply to a better academic D1 school that has club, the MCLA’s or better academic D3 schools

Soooo, moving on these are the factors that I think of importance (from most to least) to get recruited:

1) Talent – trumps all – if your kid is already a superstar, most of this does not apply to you. If he/she don’t have as much talent, try to be realistic about their high level D1 / D3 dreams. Be very realistic about how your own child grades out. You may think they are superstar but if they haven’t competed on the national stage where the competition is the best, you cannot really know how good your kid is, even if everyone tells you they are the best. Be as objective as possible; rate your kid on a 100 point scale. Most players who are 93+ have a decent chance at a high D1/D3 school. Anything below that, it is going to be more difficult to get into the top schools and don’t punch way above you kid’s weight class when it comes to recruiting as it will lead to disappointment. However, there really is a lock for every key and if your kid really wants to play lacrosse, there are 400+ schools out there to play at. If you don’t have connections or talent, you will have to market the garbage out of yourself – go to showcases, prospect days, make good videos, email (the appropriate amount), sign up for recruiting services. But honestly, most of those all have minimal impact unless you have the connections but it’s all you got at that point.
2) Connections (High / Prep School or Club) – my kid went to several prospect days for schools as well as sent several emails to schools and he never heard a peep from any of them until a coach reached out on his behalf. I truly believe that this is the most important beyond talent. Coaches at all levels are getting hundreds of videos and thousands of email. They simply do not have the time to review them all or even open them. Having a coach call or email, allows you to jump to the top of the food chain (think Chutes and Ladders).
3) Grades – how could I leave this out in the original post! If you don’t have the grades, you aren’t getting into an elite school. Sports will help somewhat but you do have to have some sort of baseline decent grades.
4) Your kid’s High School prestige – there is line somewhere that separates the elite schools for lacrosse from the run-of-the-mill lacrosse high schools. If you are below that line, unless there is an individual connection, your chances of an elite D1/D3 school are slim to none without that connection. That being said, your high school play is still very important for recruiting for the other D1/D2/D3 schools because it is your high school coach that knows you best.
5) Your kid’s Club – same facts hold true as it does (#3) high school. I often get asked what club team should I chose. Do not balk at driving distance as a barrier. Sometimes you will have to drive far to get to a better club. To be honest, I would choose the best, highest ranked club because they play in the best tournaments (NAL, NLF, Crabfeast and Naptown, Great8) and try and get on their A squad at as young an age as possible. That way the club knows your child over time and will go to bat for you eventually. In addition, if you don’t make the top team, it gives you a chance to: work your way up to the A team or look for another club that may suit you better. That brings up the topic of A vs B. In reality, most B teams are not sending players to top D1/D3 schools (some are but that is not the norm). If being at a top lax school is not your goal then A vs B doesn’t matter as much because plenty of B players play college lacrosse. My kid was on a team that did not think much about his game. He was at a small local club and so he made the jump to a national club. He started on their C team and worked his way up to started on the top team so it is possible. Finally, understand these clubs are in the MONEY MAKING business as most are for-profit. They will sell you a bridge to nowhere as long as they get your tuition checks. Here is how I break them down:
a. Some are outright frauds. They don’t care and they just want your money
b. Some put together some half -hearted attempts at recruiting – they go through the motions but are not really making phone calls on your kids behalf
c. Others really only promote their best players. These are also fraudulent as they put all their time and effort into marketing their best players only, while the rest remain tution check to support those best players.
d. Finally, there are some truly excellent programs who will do their best to place a kid anywhere whether it be the best D1 program to the worst D3 program.
e. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention National teams and National tournaments – on paper, it is a very good idea but part of me says there is a money grab aspect. You can even see multiple clubs joining together to make national team (eg CLCA). I think it is the next evolution and I would not be surprised if National tournaments become the norm with local tournaments still existing but becoming second fiddle.
Coaches will tell you they will help you with recruiting but the reality is they do not want to put their name out there to back you if there is a lacrosse:talent mismatch. So if your Johnny rates as an 80, don’t ask your coach to get you into Syracuse because they won’t do it. It is a shame that some clubs promise you the world but don’t help you even though are paying $2000-4000 for your club; for them to not help you is just fraudulent. How to tell if a club is real or not? Look at their website. A good one would post a list of ALL their commits, not just the ones who get into top D1 schools which usually means they had a favorite player. Look at their social media. Are all of their posts only about 1-5 of their top kids? Finally, word of mouth – talk to the older kids and kids who have moved through the program; not the superstars but the average ones who had college lax dreams.
6) Prospect Days – this is the best way to get in front of a school on an individual basis. However, many of these are pure money grabs. We have been to several where no one was filming, coaches had no paper or they were not writing anything down. Clearly no evaluation was going on. It does allow you to get in front of the coaches and look at the campus. But I am somewhat cynical because if you were not already on their radar, a coach didn’t send you, or you were not invited, it is unlikely to be helpful.
7) Showcases- There are so many showcases out there. Many of them are money grabs and really garbage showcases. How do you know what is a good showcase? I wish I knew the answer to that but I can say that if the showcase has a good list of head coaches then it is going to be pretty good. If the communication is pretty good, then that is also a good sign. I will throw it out there and say good ones are Showtime, The Players Series, Spotlight, ECD, Lacrosse Masters, Main Stage, NXT Fall, The Show, Juniors Open, Main Stage. Then there are the average showcases (3D, adrenaline, my lacrosse tournaments, Elite 100, Elite 180, GFW, Q4, Victory, Maryland Showcase). UA and National All Star Games are very good but very political. 1%, FiveStar and Apex are very heavily marketed but have found them to be more glitz than substance. What is important to know is nobody is going to be “discovered” at most of these so do not think your kid is going to show up and “kill it” and get recruited by Duke. Coaches usually have a list of players they are there to see and if the kid does well, then they reach out. Finally, no one cares about wins and losses at showcase so don’t be that parent.
8) Recruiting video – coaches are getting hundreds of video so they may never even open your video or emails. That being said, video is still 100% necessary in this day and age of recruiting. If they do open it, you want your intro to be brief and you want to front load your 5-star highlights. Some say don’t use music; my feeling is they can always mute it. Try to film your own video even though it is a pain in the arse. Much of the paid tournament videos offered are expensive and very poor quality. It is a pain in the butt to film your own highlight video but you will have a much higher quality video that is zoomed in appropriately. Iphone and imovie work perfectly fine or invest in a cheap HD camcorder. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve seen: inappropriate offensive music, not zooming in on your child, including highlights that aren’t highlights, not highlighting /circling your player in the video (you know your kid so it’s easy to pick out for you but most coaches, it’s pretty hard to pick up to the player in that 4 second clip). Some say, don’t make it longer than 2 minutes; my feeling is most coaches aren’t watching past 1 minute (if they open it) and if you give a 6 minute highlight video they can always just shut it off.
9) Position – kids are specializing more and more (SSDM, FOGO, LSM and goalies). If you are really good at your position, you stand a very good chance. If you are mediocre, you better show that you can do other things. At the Prospect Days, I have noticed more and more defenders and less middies which stinks for defense, that stinks because I think that is also the hardest position to get recruited at. Goalies always fill first so get in early. If you are not looking high level, none of this is as important
10) Recruiting profiles (NCSA, SportsRecruit, ConnectLax, CaptainU) – these are likely only helpful for the mid-lower Tier D1, D2, D3 schools. The top schools will not or do not use these services – they do everything through connections.

Additional comments, myths and facts?

1. I am assuming that most people “try to punch up” with their recruiting (ie they will try and overachieve with their lacrosse ambitions) so be patient, be realistic and don’t be disappointed. There is a “lock for every key” as there are over 400 lacrosse colleges. If you really want to play lacrosse, you will find a school.
2. Re-class – there is so much detest on this forum about re-classed players. Unfortunately, it is here to stay until colleges and clubs change their mind (USA Lacrosse has zero ability or desire to change this). Colleges and clubs don’t want to change because they want the most mature and physically gifted players so they could care less that your kid is on-age. Some kids re-class for legit reasons (maturity, academics). But some also re-class to try and get into a better school. IMHO, re-classing is destroying the sport but it’s here to stay. It is completely unfair but totally within the rules. Why on earth would someone re-class for lacrosse reasons only is beyond me. I can’t imagine how dominant my kid would have been if he was going against kids 1 -3 years younger.
3. Lacrosse players are not getting a full scholarship: Full scholarships are uncommon and most will only get a very small amount of money
4. Lacrosse is finite: I think lacrosse carries on forever whether it be a playing in beer league, coaching, raising your own kid, etc. But in terms of a career, very few people go on to make a living out of playing lacrosse. Lacrosse has a finite end and for some it ends after high school; some after college. Don’t make short term decision with long term consequences
5. Commit vs Preferred-Walk-on vs Walk-on – I know very little about this. All I can say is that if you are a preferred walk-on you are on the team but you don’t always travel. If you tryout and walk-on (not preferred), there are generally very little chances or spots at the high collegiate level but probably plenty at the lower caliber schools
6. Prep vs Private vs Catholic – depends what part of the country you live. Not all preps are lacrosse powerhouses nor are all catholic schools. There are a few public schools that carry a lot of weight but chances are your high school does not; you will know
7. PG – from what I have been told, do not PG unless it is arranged ahead of time with a college who specifically said you should PG. There are plenty of PG’s who PG but do so without a college talking to them. There are even PG schools out there. They still eventually get into lacrosse schools but it usually is not a step up to playing for Duke / Virginia / Syracuse / Yale etc. That being said, some need to PG for academic and maturity reasons.
8. How often should I email a coach – I believe coaches are getting hundreds of emails. Chances are, they are not going to read or even open your email (at least at the high D1 or high D3 level). That being said – maybe once a month and always have some sort of update whether it being lacrosse or academic.
9. Don’t be that lacrosse dad or mom. Honestly, be quiet. Don’t coach your son on the field. Don’t yell “wheels” “ward” “offsides” and ride the refs. Coaches do actually notice this. They don’t care so much at the collegiate level because they can limit the parent’s sphere of influence but somewhere in the back of their mind, they are wondering if the apple doesn’t fall from the tree when they are recruiting. No one cares that you were once a superstar or failed athlete. Everyone can see you are projecting who you once were or wanted to be onto your child
10. The Grass is Not Always Greener (See Clubs above) – it’s OK to be a club hopper – we jumped clubs and it worked out for the better but it doesn’t always. Just make sure you are doing it because there are faults with the club and not faults with you or your kid. Most parents cannot tell the difference sadly. If you do go club hopping, make sure you latch on to one before high school because making the change after high school is very difficult
11. The New England region and Long Island used to be center of the lacrosse universe. That is no longer the case. I believe it is currently the MidAtlantic (re-class) but areas such as the South (Fl, GA, TX), Midwest (Il, MI) and West (CA, CO) are producing amazing players along with New England and LI still being very good
12. D1 vs D2 vs D3
a. D1 – I think a lot of kids can play D1 as there are some D1 schools that are not as competitive out there and would be happy to take all sorts of talent. The only thing I would advise is don’t go D1 for the sake of going D1. D1 is also a full time job so they have to juggle academics with their lacrosse.
b. D2 – they do offer scholarships. Some are great schools and great lacrosse programs but academically I have found they are not as good as some of the D1 and D3 schools
c. D3 – I do not believe they offer sport scholarships but will offer other scholarships. Even though D1 is a full time job, D3 is also very busy especially in the spring. The main difference is the 20 hours in the fall that D1 has that D3 does not but D3 still practices in the fall. D3 probably has the largest cohort of schools from incredibly competitive to very mediocre.
d. MCLA – do not overlook these schools. Some are top academic institutions (Stanford, Rice, GaTech, etc)
e. Club lacrosse – also do not overlook this. Totally OK.

Timeline – don’t get sad if all your friends commit on 9/1 of their junior year. D3 doesn’t make offers until later and sometimes D1 makes commitments as late as December of your senior year. Patience, young grasshopper.
1) D1 - You cannot be contacted by anyone for recruiting until September 1 of your junior year. That being said, they can reach out to you with camps and prospect days but not personally. Now obviously kids who verbally commit on 9/1 must have had some contacts with the colleges but most of it is through high school / clubs
2) D2 – June 15 after the sophomore year
3) D3 – I believe they can talk at any time but some of the NESCACs adopt D1 rules. D3 offers do not go out until June (or July?) 1 after their junior year

Choosing a school: it will be a multitude of factors but this is what I think plays into it (in no order)

1) Academics – imho, don’t sacrifice this for lacrosse, but that being said, you will probably be fine at any school depending on what you make out of it
2) D1 vs D2 vs D3 – similar to above – don’t get caught up on the D1 Hamster Wheel – plenty of good options out there
3) Starter vs bench – some kids just want to be part of a process; some need to be the superstar. Find out where your kid is and if you are realistic, it may open doors and don’t shoot for the stars, it may open up a lot of schools.
4) Conference they play in and level of competition
5) Money – it matters. There are some very rich people on these forums who don’t realize that. That being said, most are not getting full sports scholarships.
6) Coaches and their coaching philosophy – this has to be the right fit
7) Lacrosse is finite – don’t choose a school because of a lacrosse

Well I am sure I left a lot out. Let the detest begin (haha). But seriously, try and help out your fellow lax members with something constructive. Everyone enjoy the ride though. It was great for me, my wife and all our kids.

Covid and transfer portal devastated 2022 recruiting class.......2023 class should be a bit better but a ton of 2022's PG so more competition for 2023. Crappy situation but it is what it is

I would not say wide open, many D1 level players are ending up in D3 due to the transfer portal, COVID and the awful NCAA. There are 5 year players on many D3 teams.

LI Express has 16 commits. Similar list as Igloo but slightly better, also Igloo is claiming kids who don’t live on Long Island.


As the parent of a kid that plays for a NLF team (not from LI) we rarely see or hear about Igloo. What a great list of college commitments!![/quote]

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.[/quote]

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.[/quote][/quote

Who cares - look at the big picture, between 91,express,s2s and igloo- even with their guest players, you have a bunch of great kids playing lacrosse at awesome D1, 2 and 3 schools. Imagine if egos were put aside and 1 team was made up out of that group of teams, they probably would be able to compete with most college teams.

As the parent of a kid that plays for a NLF team (not from LI) we rarely see or hear about Igloo. What a great list of college commitments!![/quote]

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.[/quote][/quote]

[quote=Anonymous]LI Express has 16 commits. Similar list as Igloo but slightly better, also Igloo is claiming kids who don’t live on Long Island.

"similar but slightly better" lol 1. How many of those kids used to play for Igloo? Express collects talent, it doesn't develop it. 2. you may want to check the addresses of your players

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.[/quote][/quote]


Lol- a.little defensive there maybe you check your addresses and ask why so many have left Igloo to go other clubs because of lack of development unless your part of the coaches club

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo has 16 players committed! this is a fact!!! Going to Georgetown, Villinova, Army, Syracuse, Michigan, Navy, Lafayette, Harvard, Colgate, High Point, Bucknell, Vermont, Quinnipac, Yale, Hopkins

As the parent of a kid that plays for a NLF team (not from LI) we rarely see or hear about Igloo. What a great list of college commitments!!

Yes, the mystery is solved. Coaches will find good players and players with social media and YouTube can get to coaches easier.[/quote][/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Express has 16 commits. Similar list as Igloo but slightly better, also Igloo is claiming kids who don’t live on Long Island.

"similar but slightly better" lol 1. How many of those kids used to play for Igloo? Express collects talent, it doesn't develop it. 2. you may want to check the addresses of your players

Lol- a.little defensive there maybe you check your addresses and ask why so many have left Igloo to go other clubs because of lack of development unless your part of the coaches club

It's kind of pathetic that grown men are still bickering over travel lacrosse stop already give it a break.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Express has 16 commits. Similar list as Igloo but slightly better, also Igloo is claiming kids who don’t live on Long Island.

"similar but slightly better" lol 1. How many of those kids used to play for Igloo? Express collects talent, it doesn't develop it. 2. you may want to check the addresses of your players

Lol- a.little defensive there maybe you check your addresses and ask why so many have left Igloo to go other clubs because of lack of development unless your part of the coaches club

It's kind of pathetic that grown men are still bickering over travel lacrosse stop already give it a break.[/quote]

Express, Igloo, Team 91, PrimeTime, Leading Edge, etc - we are all just customers of theirs. Much pride in my sons high school. Appreciate the club for getting my son in front of college coaches (in exchange for me paying $3k+ for many years). BTW - the club guy loves to remind me how big a role he played in my sons college selection.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI Express has 16 commits. Similar list as Igloo but slightly better, also Igloo is claiming kids who don’t live on Long Island.

"similar but slightly better" lol 1. How many of those kids used to play for Igloo? Express collects talent, it doesn't develop it. 2. you may want to check the addresses of your players

Lol- a.little defensive there maybe you check your addresses and ask why so many have left Igloo to go other clubs because of lack of development unless your part of the coaches club

It's kind of pathetic that grown men are still bickering over travel lacrosse stop already give it a break.[/quote]

Express, Igloo, Team 91, PrimeTime, Leading Edge, etc - we are all just customers of theirs. Much pride in my sons high school. Appreciate the club for getting my son in front of college coaches (in exchange for me paying $3k+ for many years). BTW - the club guy loves to remind me how big a role he played in my sons college selection.....[/quote]

Adults posting where their brats are attending school to play lacrosse. Who cares! Insecure parents, shallow parents.

What LI "B" teams have college commits at this age group?

Not many. I can honestly say I am disappointed in my sons club (S2S). They aren’t helping the B team kids at all. The coaches kid and one other got to make some appearances with the A team so I guess they are being helped but other than that no help has been offered. Unless it is just my kid. I haven’t spoken to other parents about it. My kids has got some interest but it is 100% because of our own efforts. Paying for showcases and reaching out on our own. Not that these owners care but they should be ashamed of themselves.

Many if not the majority of owners can care less about the majority of kids. Their only concern is the amount of money put into their packets during the year selling dreams to underachieved parents. My son and I did all of the footwork to get him into the school he wanted. He's career-specific focused, so there are many schools we didn't waste effort pursuing. Why would any parent recommend to their kid, to sign on with a school, lacrosse first, and back-filling four years of college with a major he/she has no interest in? Graduating a few years later with a nice amount of dept, all the name of lacrosse.

Unfortunately that’s how it is with most teams. Keep doing what you are doing and something good will happen. The other kid is the coaches cousin that’s why he got some looks with the A team. Neither of them got much play time so don’t worry about it too much.
Also I’m being told now that the top kids are recruited. They will make an effort with the rest in spring- early summer. They will try and get as many as they can spots. Don’t know if I believe it. But that’s what I was told.

These are tough recruiting years with Covid, 5/6 year players and the transfer portal. Really tough for the kids but it is what it is.

Forget the club helping you, parent and player efforts in recruiting is the only thing that will help a B team player. Don't look for club help, I would not even trust your club if your son is on the B team. There are enough A team players not getting recruited, they may put a college player off your B child and on to an A player.

I know of at least one situation where this has happened. D3 coach reached out to club coach about B player and the response was: "If you like how he plays, you should check out this kid (A player)!"

Do the "club lacrosse" math, you have way more than the average lacrosse scholarship.

These are the only three B teams I am aware of:
91 Warriors has 1 commit
Turtles has 1 commit
True Blue has 2 commits
S2S has 0

How will the college coach turn out to be for 23s nationals try out this weekend? Is there a coaching list? Is it worth if for the exposure?

91 Warriors are at 6 commits so far. 4-5 others from the team with solid offers.

College coaches will be busy coaching their own teams this weekend.

True Blue is the most top tier team on the island don’t disrespect them as a b team

Agreed. True Blue is an elite team that has numerous D1 commits.

True Blue has definite 5 commits already.

its worth the exposure for the summer as for the tryouts I cant imagine any coaches being there as the college lacrosse season is in full swing. Maybe a local coach but that's it.

You realize it doesn’t matter if you calm them an A or B team anymore. Right? Or are you still pumping your chest on the side lines?

What about Igloo?

Not sure they can truly be considered a B team, regardless of the fact that they are the same club as the Bandits. Inside Lacrosse had them ranked somewhere around #15-20 in the country and USClub Lax may have had them in the top 10. They are the exception to the B rule.

Team 24 has 5 D1 commits .

I would say Igloo B is right below the Turtles as #5 on this list.

Nope. But they do have 1 solid kid going D1

Defense great, Attack awful.

Tb has many d1 kids and others that are looking high d2/d3 but could prob go mid d1 but would prefer the better experience of high d2 and d3.

We ain’t a very good team but we Played TB last summer and fall and lost both times; barely. Good team but not lights out; I would be surprised that had that many that could play D1, let alone high D1

That’s a BS statement. Most of these kids would “prefer” to go D1 because that’s where the better kids play. I have one child that plays D2 and one that plays D1. The difference is extreme. With that being said, both of them love the experience equally

The 10 best D3 teams could beat the bottom 20 D1 teams on any given day. Tufts crushed Dartmouth last year.

I love how "experience" is used. Who cares!

The kids, I imagine. Your days are over, guy.

When your ride the bench in D1 or start in D3......experience matters.

I second that. Riding the bench at a D1 program just to say you played for them; I guess I can see how that would appeal to some but I would also think playing at a good D3 school would also qualify as a “good experience”

2 years ago I commented on this site that team 91 warriors had 4 potential D-1 players. The “experts” on this site criticized my statement as unrealistic. Well 3 players who moved on from that team were early D-1 commits and at least 2 others are also going D-1 with others possible. Any comment from those experts now?

so.... they're all not with the Warriors B team any longer?

Looks like the current 91 Warriors Roster (not kids that’ve left in the last few years) has 6 players committed as of last week. Interested to see how they finish up.

Once again someone with a lack of knowledge feels required to comment. You call Team 91 Warriors a B team. Yet US Club Lacrosse ranks them 13 and Inside Lacrosse 20. Is it anti 91 bias or just a lack of intelligence?

2 years? That’s a long time to wait for an “I told you so post but good for you? Warriors are not a B team BTW.

No, you care, no one else cares that your kid plays D-1. No one......except you.

Go play on the 85th ranked team in d1 or a top 20 d2 or d3. Go d1 practice 40 hours a week and be non competitive as a team. Seems worth it to say your kid played D1. I would think most kids would rather play and be competitive. Adelphi and lemoyne wingate etc would smoke many of those middle to lower D1 schools guy. So yeah experience matters.

B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team B team

Did FLG fold?

I’m confused, do DII & DIII teams only have 13 or 14 players on their rosters? Does every player play every game? Are there no DII & DIII sitting on the bench?

How about this, help your child find the best overall fit… Academic, Lacrosse, social life, size of school, location of school, overall college experience etc….

Obviously academics should be the top priority.

Let’s repeat it slowly for you then junior. The original comment related to why would someone choose d2 or d3 for the experience. That was the reply. It’s for the same person who walks around bc his son plats for the 91 d team and rides the bench. But hey he can tell all his dad friends in the neighborhood how good his son is bc he’s on 91. Obv the whole process is about fit, thanks for clarifying that - now we know that.

If you are riding the bench on D1 you will likely ride the bench for the top 10 D3 programs also. The top 5 D3 programs can beat or compete well against the bottom 50% of D1 programs. This is not the same comparison as NBA vs. College basketball.

We ain’t a very good team but we Played TB last summer and fall and lost both times; barely. Good team but not lights out; I would be surprised that had that many that could play D1, let alone high D1

2 Kids committed to Army and UNC that seems pretty high D-1

3 Kids committed to Sienna, LIU and Stonybrook middle of the row D-1

Stonybrook just outside top 20 this year. No one said TB is lights out but they have kids that will grind.

Good luck to all the kids committed or not, there is a place for all to play.

Siena and LIU are not middle-of-the-road D-1 programs. They are bottom 10

The UNC kid got recruited through his HS. I don’t think he ever played a tourney for TB. They are a decent team. Probably top 40-50 in the country.

The Army kid is going to do a PG year at prep. Not going directly to Army.

So we’re still trying to make fun of other teams? Club doesn’t matter anymore. It served its purpose. Parents should have been selling their sons to schools beginning January 2021. If you didn’t, you are likely behind the 8-ball from a recruiting standpoint. FYI, the Warriors, who many people like to detest, are an exceptional team. Far better than most self proclaimed A teams. My sons team has played them many times and, while they are probably undersized, they have always impressed.

A good percentage of kids who come from public schools go to MAPS (military academy prep school)or NAPS (Naval Academy Prep School) Transition to one of the academies from a public school is very difficult some have no problems and can do it. The Academic advisors usually recommend it. It has nothing to do with sports

The unc kid is at every tourney stop making stuff up.

It’s not uncommon for parents and players to use the academies as a free PG year and then go someplace else. I would estimate that 2/3 of the academy commits never touch the field or sit in a classroom at the actual academy. This is why they recruit so many more players than anywhere else (roughly 20 per class for Army, AF and Navy)

It has nothing to do with where the kid went to HS or academic advisors . It is determined by the student’s academic credentials. There is a line, if you are above the line you go directly to the academy. If you are below the line you go to prep. The coaches would like just about all the kids to go to prep (who wouldn’t) but it’s not up to them.

3 players on turtles at least

A ton of the prep and PG year deals are going on these days.

Read my mind! 2 year guy, move on.

The original post was the majority of the True Blue team was or could play high to mid D1. They looked like a decent team but not lights out. Army and UNC are high D1. Stonybrook is mid D1. Siena and LIU are low D1. good for all those kids as I am sure it will be a great experience but I still fail to see where the majority of TB is going to mid to high D1; it’s just not factual apparently

the recruits that play for TB worked hard, put the time in at individual showcases and have strong support from very good HS coaches who connected them to the programs. They earned it on their own.

The UNC commit never missed one TB tournament since 3rd grade. I know the juggernaut of Calhoun definitely got him to UNC. IDC if TB helped the kid or not and I also don't care if TB is the 150th ranked team in the country. You guys are nuts, they have player going D-1 and they will have players going D-2,3 why cant all you donk offs out there be happy for them and for all the kids. The only knucklehead that has said TB is the best team is a father from a different team that likes to stir the pot. Its obvious he hates TB or Cat or a parent on team. Anyway im done posting on here good luck to all the young athletes out there I hope you all find a place to play.

The Prep School also gives kids who cannot get the Nomination a direct line to WP. They dont need it for the prep school and dont need it to go from prep to WP. Its not always academics.

You may want to look into that again. The prep year is just that, preparation. They still need to get the grades and the nomination to get it. It just gives them more time.

FYI, there are 6 kids on the Warrriors going D1 rite now, so not sure what your point is.

Ok, along with $4.29, in my area, will get you a gal. of regular gas.

If your son is already committed do you think he should play on his travel team this upcoming summer?

Absolutely. Need to stay sharp and play with other good players.

What if my kid is on a "C" team like 91?

Dude, what did they do to you?! The negative obsession is troubling

Congrats on your son getting committed as it is a great achievement to be a college athlete at any level. To answer your question; Yes, your son should play because the hard work doesn't end with the commitment, it is only just beginning. He plays against uneven competition but, in college, everyone will be good so he needs to put in the time / effort to get better. Second, unless everyone else on his team is already committed, he needs to help his teammates to also get recruited. Lacrosse is a team sport and, since he is that good, he can make others also look good. Enjoy watching him play without the pressure he has felt for the last couple years. A few days during the week and a couple weekends for team tournaments and no prospect days or showcases sounds like a dream come true in my mind.

Find another team

Plus the club need your $$$$…..I assume your son is a rising senior. I would have him play but stay local, save some money, put it to some targeted training and weight training. Congrats!

You don't need the usual congressional nomination to go to any of the prep schools, though I believe you still have to apply for them the same way as everyone else. If the school wants you after your prep year, you'll just be given a nomination from the Secretary of X (or whatever they're using these days to get athletes from the prep schools to the academies).

They definitely do/will still need the grades, but the nomination is a given if they offer you the prep year.

How about FLG? I heard they are getting everyone recruited.

I guess this thread is dead all about the Boys HS thread now. Quick question are most of the 2023 boys playing summer ball this year?

YES because they'll be playing as Seniors next year. Class A summer league has great talent.

Yes, Last season of Travel competition and chance for last phase of recruiting showcases. Little to no Fall ball, unless with school teams. Then final Senior year.

Fall ball???? Isn't that called football?

Anyone heading to Delaware this weekend?

showcase in garden ctiy

Nope.

GC was terrible. No balls on end lines . grass beat to $hit and it’s only June. little nets on a handful of fields. Kids are too big and too good to be played in that facility
Balls flying everywhere
New venue needed

Yeah, ball hunt any time it went out of bounds. How did everyone do? Hard for me to feel better/worse about my sons team without standings lol.

recruiting question:

How much pull do the D3 schools have with admissions?
We all know that the D1 schools have massive pull to get their top recruits in, and often make big academic/score exceptions for top recruits. Is it the same at D3's?

A lot if a top program. D3 is the gem.

Yes D1, D2 & D3 coaches all have a pull with admissions. If the player is good they will go to bat for them. They will also make sure you get some merit money.

It depends on the school. Some of the higher academic schools have no pull such as MIT. Some of the higher academics have a little pull and have some athletics slots with admission but not all slots. But the majority of D3 do have pull but if a kid is way below the standards of the school, there is only 1 slot if any at all. But if the kid is close the athletics will help.

MIT does have some pull but less than the other D3 high academic schools. Overall the higher academic D3 schools can help athletes get in but the athletes must be "close" to the average admitted student.

Very little pull, and if someone told you the D-1 schools have massive pull they are lying, they don't. Duje isn't letting in a kid with sub-standard grades, Ivy's are not getting a kid in who isn't a top scholar, D-2 schools are not very competitive academically, so no pull needed there, they just have massive tuition costs so a lot of academic money is needed, so a good SAT score will be required there. Amherst and the rest of the NESAC schools are a no-go without top academics. not sure where you're getting information from but it seems way off here. Went through this already with a couple of kids, so you may want to email a few coaches.

I’m not sure where you get your information from, the Duke and the Ivy’s 100% will get in a mediocre student IF he is one of the top players in the class. Notre Dame on the other hand has very little wiggle room when it comes to academics.

I wouldn’t say very little pull but the kid needs to be in the ballpark. Many of the coaches have told us if the school takes usually 3.8 and above someone with a 3.6-3.7 with athletics may get a shot (with the exception of schools like MIT). And they all encourage SAT/ACT even if the they are test optional. And they may reserve one spot for someone much more below the standards but they have to be an exceptional player.

Getting my information from coaches when my older went through the process. You're completely wrong.

This is right,

Ivy kid came back and talked to the kids on our club team a few years ago and fully admitted there was no way he could have gotten in without lacrosse. Generally they have to be close but there are a few mediocre students that get accepted. And by mediocre I still mean pretty good but not IVY league good

S2S just got beat by rebels, they have 2 AA players. S2S in going no where. Come to rebels

Rebels are not playing and have not played S2S this season. Don’t abuse the medicine cabinet

Um….travel lax is done for these kids.time to live on.

As the sun sets on the 2023’s travel season. I have to say I am disappointed in the help that my sons team gave him in the recruiting process. He has always been on the B team but has talent. In looking at the recruiting numbers from the various clubs did any give help? Should be a big wake up call to the parents with younger kids.

Top tier talent gets help by getting invites to the top individual showcases. It’s really on the parents and kids to get recruited. They have to do the leg work.

Because people sit around and wait for help. You have to do all the work, contact the coaches, send film and display interest. Especially on a B team. And then when you have a potential fit and good engagement, that is when the club should help. Not a second before. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

Agreed. Really all of the heavy lifting is done by the parents/kid. Be realistic in expectations but be proactive. Some of the interest he is getting is from tourneys/showcases. But it’s us selling him. Nothing from the club. Frankly not that I expected much.

And some of what he kind of finally realized now is that lax isn’t everything. He could go to a number of schools that are after him, but take lax out and he’s not in love with most. He really is going to decide what school he wants and if they have lax, great. Even just club. Can’t say I don’t like his rationale. Make the decisions for the right decisions. And believe me I see a lot of kids in town that are part of the lax clique, holier that though, now at a loss that their superstar is not getting traction like they assumed would happen for years.

Ivy kid, not a coach a kid. Talk to a coach please. And don’t get any information here, it’s not valid

I agree that all the kids and parents have to do the leg work but much of the recruiting process is built in connections. With tens of thousands of kids looking for spots, highlight videos, emails prospect days and showcases will get you almost nowhere for at least the top colleges . Coaches say they get hundreds of emails and videos and don’t have time to read or look at them. For the top colleges, recruiting help is needed from the clubs (or high schools) and for the amount of money people are shelling out for clubs the least they can do is do some outreach in the kids behalf and open the door. Then the kid can take over.

Just needed to interject. Now that Travel is "wrapping up", I am happy to say that my son has committed to a D1 program. However, I must add that it wasn't without doing a lot of the leg work ourselves. You must be pro-active with highlights, prospect days and showcases. It was a long process and an emotional roller coaster.

Most colleges wanted to "see junior play during the season". This is where the coaches will see directly the caliber of player your son is. A lot depends on the particular schools' "needs" for that graduating class as well. Yes, it helps to have the high school and Travel coach provide info/support for your son. They are not magicians! They can't make schools look at your son. Your son/yourself need to continue to provide info and proof that supports your son's candidacy for the particular College. Travel originally was meant for kids to play against "better" competition. Today, it is partly true. Every kid, if able to pay, basically can make a travel team on some level. Once you are in contact with the Universities, then you need to be pro-active with letting both coaches know your interest, etc. so they can further the contacts/conversation. We also need to realize that our kids may not be as good as we think they are and maybe can't play for the level of school we are searching for. Also, I have experienced "crazy parents and players" over the years in HS and Travel. Do you think a coach would go to bat for them? Just some examples and feedback from past experiences. Best of Luck