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91 has better quality commits than the Turtles. Bottom line

91 has better quality commits than the Turtles. Bottom line

91 has better quality commits than the Turtles. Bottom line

So glad there are so many qualified posters on here espousing doctrine of what constitutes a "good" recruit and which schools should be interested, etc, etc. TX could learn a few things from the crowd here.

Ha! Ha!

Team 91 2017 Orange hasn't beaten any of the best teams. Actually last summer they got hammered in most tournaments they played. I'm shocked they have so many D1 commits because I've seen them play numerous times and they never once impressed me.

And yet they lose games to crappy teams at Crabfeast and at fl$ in 3d. Last I checked Turtles have not lost a game in a couple years and has played very few competitive games. That is straight up wrong. If there are a dozen high level commits on 91, including two Dukes, then those programs made about 10 recruiting mistakes.

That is such a rediculess statement and clearly meant to fan flames on a fire you would like to see started but no one here is going to take the hook, troll.

B Level ball. What not to do Lacrosse. No pass ball. B at best.

No dog in this fight, but I guess this cements the theory that you do not have to be on a winning team to be recruited....

Is it possible that every Player on the Turtles will go D1??

Great comment on the volume of this diluting the substance. My kid was an All-Star at session two or three or four of the IL Showcase this fall. I am not even sure which one and am certainly not sure it is a great accolade. If it was the emails or calls from our club coach would be streaming in and they are not. This whole shout out thing over Twitter and blog sites like Ty Xanders or 3d is like getting the kids and the dads in the white van for some candy and a ride.

Have never belly laughed on site until now. So true. All great humor has a basis in truth.

How many more are left that didn't verbal? What about the two Goalies.

By far the weakest area of the team. They have 5-6 D1 poles playing in front of them which makes them look better than they are.

By far the weakest area of the team. They have 5-6 D1 poles playing in front of them which makes them look better than they are.

There is something to be said for it though. We have kids here in the DMV who are committed to ACC schools and literally can't play. Our club is still howling at how UVa was duped into one Landon kid last year and that is just one example of the hype machine equaling attention for a player. Duke has some weak commits in the 2017 class and in the 2016 class. Ditto UVa and UNC. There are early recruiting misses all up and down the beltway.

By far the weakest area of the team. They have 5-6 D1 poles playing in front of them which makes them look better than they are.

False. There is NO weakness to the Turtle team. The two goalies are excellent players and work great with all the poles on the team. The shots these two boys see in the practices are 50X better than what they would see in a HS game or ANY club game. You are WAY off on your comment.

I wouldn't say weakest area- just not much for them to do. They will shine individually at showcases. Goalies are usually recruited late. The downside to playing with great teams as a goalie- you aren't needed as much and it's harder to show what you've got. Any top team goalie will have these issues unless the team challenges themselves. And I'm not the goalie's dad or mom/ just a parent of a goalie that sees these pitfalls.

I've been around the DMV club scene as a parent and coach for a long time, and without shooting negatives at any one club or prep school, there is something important most people including Ty Xanders don't get. Some early verbals are outstanding players including many Turtles, but some are not. Those aren't diamonds in the rough, they are non-impact recruits. What is a non-impact recruit? Think Rudy in the Notre Dame movie. Here in the DMV you have clubs who need commits to survive and attract the next generation of competitive kids and parents. Some of the top lacrosse prep schools here have less than 100 kids per grade and 25 per grade who want to play D1 lacrosse and it is not too cynical to suggest enrollment would be hurt at these over $25K a year schools. College coaches are in a great position when pushy club or prep coach calls begging for him to take a player they think little of IF 1. It is made clear the family will pay full freight, 2. It is made clear the kid will be a walk-on and may even need to tryout to stay on the roster, 3. It is made clear the kid and family will be fulfilled to be a 4 year practice player with realistic hopes of getting into a blowout or two like Rudy, and 4. The kid plays for a club and goes to a prep school that will develop him into a good college practice player and maybe more as a pleasant surprise.

The DMV fills college roster benches with these kids by the bushel every year. For Dom Starsia and the rest it is like nothing down financing for what may be a useful player and they get a free option.

Where are they committed?

You are all out of control and should be ashamed of yourselves. This is about the kids not the adults pounding their chests. What a joke you are making of this sport!

WHAT!??? The team can't win a game. I challenge you to watch one game, just one. The kids don't move the ball. They are making it very easy for their "competition". It's going to be interesting as the next few years show top schools wiggling out from verbal deals with the kids on that lead balloon.

The best schools in the country still haven't commited a goalie yet

The best schools in the country still haven't commited a goalie yet

Will the entire Turtle Team play lacrosse at the D1 level. What a story.