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My sons team practices at the same field and you know how parents are. Have to talk to someone and find out if the grass in greener. These days you have to do your homework. Or spy work lol

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They do it right by being honest and telling you excatly what you are getting. 9 mids, 6 attack, 6 defense, 2 goalies. You know going in. You don't show up after paying because you only had 24 hours to make a decision and find out there are 12 mids 8 attack 8 defense and 2 goalies. The coaches are solid good guys who know the game, played the game and have been coaching for 25+ years on all levels. They only have 2 teams this year but I always hear good things about them. They do winter workouts, spring league and then solid summer schedule and it doesnt cost you an arm and a leg. I may try to track them down this weekend and get more info. They are playing in the JDRF.


You know all this how? Sounds like lot of insight for someone looking to track them down. lol

Good luck!!


Not bashing them here, I think they know the game. However, there's a reason they folded this thing to begin with. I have heard that they were a bit disorganized and things weren't run very well. Couldn't handle the non-lacrosse stuff, as the program grew it got worse. From my experience there needs to be a solid administrator involved.... I wish them luck.

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They do it right by being honest and telling you excatly what you are getting. 9 mids, 6 attack, 6 defense, 2 goalies. You know going in. You don't show up after paying because you only had 24 hours to make a decision and find out there are 12 mids 8 attack 8 defense and 2 goalies. The coaches are solid good guys who know the game, played the game and have been coaching for 25+ years on all levels. They only have 2 teams this year but I always hear good things about them. They do winter workouts, spring league and then solid summer schedule and it doesnt cost you an arm and a leg. I may try to track them down this weekend and get more info. They are playing in the JDRF.


You know all this how? Sounds like lot of insight for someone looking to track them down. lol

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Not bashing them here, I think they know the game. However, there's a reason they folded this thing to begin with. I have heard that they were a bit disorganized and things weren't run very well. Couldn't handle the non-lacrosse stuff, as the program grew it got worse. From my experience there needs to be a solid administrator involved.... I wish them luck.


You sound like a lot of Maryland parents. Large amounts of non-lacrosse stuff at the high school ages, which is really pathetic. If these are "elite" clubs, why they can't just keep the parents away and pick and play the best kids is a hard thing to understand.

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Thoughts on top 20 tryouts? A lot of talent! Will kids that play JV have a shot?

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thought the competition was tight. Didn't see to many kids that didn't belong. tough to judge on just 2 halves.

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Congratulations to Coach Channy the Express 2017 Orange team. Two of their kids played on State Championship teams today. Reflects well on the whole team.

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Under Armour tryouts - what can 2017s expect out of the event? Also, tough timing for the Catholics with comps this week. Anyone choosing not to go?

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wth? So 2 kids who happen to play express played in the state championship and somehow that reflects on the whole LIE team? I don't think even he would take credit for that.

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The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?

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Congratulations to Coach Channy the Express 2017 Orange team. Two of their kids played on State Championship teams today. Reflects well on the whole team.


How? Were they the stat leaders? If not, going along for the ride is not immpressive!

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The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!

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C'mon you know 91 is not in that class with express at that age group .

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C'mon you know 91 is not in that class with express at that age group .


No they are beyond express

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Who made the LI showcase for suffolk?

When is second round cuts

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Under Armour tryouts - what can 2017s expect out of the event? Also, tough timing for the Catholics with comps this week. Anyone choosing not to go?


too many talented kids won't go because of this

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The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.

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The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself.

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?


It's still fun to talk about which team will win and if parents of those teams want to, then let them, last I checked its a free country. No one said what you and the previous poster wrote is wrong. Anyway, my kids team will beat both Turtles and 91 this year, so there! See you at the Crabfeast!

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?
This lack of "system" as well as no game plan or plays typically results in the ball in the stick way too long and very tough to watch, if anyone was at Nassau/Suffolk this was happening on just about every possession for both sides, "don't pass the ball as you will never get it back" was a great quote from one parent that day.

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?
This lack of "system" as well as no game plan or plays typically results in the ball in the stick way too long and very tough to watch, if anyone was at Nassau/Suffolk this was happening on just about every possession for both sides, "don't pass the ball as you will never get it back" was a great quote from one parent that day.




Not for nothing but that was the way Shoreham was playing this year. Keep the ball and run. Pretty much a joke to play against them.sad.

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?
This lack of "system" as well as no game plan or plays typically results in the ball in the stick way too long and very tough to watch, if anyone was at Nassau/Suffolk this was happening on just about every possession for both sides, "don't pass the ball as you will never get it back" was a great quote from one parent that day.


That maybe so at that event. However, the reason why every D1 coach in the country is on the side lines at Showtime, Philly Showcase and Jake Reed is to see the kids play without their team...

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Crabfeast brackets posted.

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to answer your question... my son wisely elected to forgo the UA tryouts to prepare for the comps

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wth? So 2 kids who happen to play express played in the state championship and somehow that reflects on the whole LIE team? I don't think even he would take credit for that.

He Did lol

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Crabfeast brackets posted.

Should be a great event. Lots of quality teams.

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[quote=Anonymous]The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.



Those recruiters are there usually looking at specific kids don't fool yourself. [/quot

You're all fooling yourselves. The coaches are way more interested in how the kid plays in individual events, with no support from the team or "system". If you notice, almost every school now has their own prospect camp. They want to see what the kids can do on their own. The tournaments are becoming less and less important. Individual events will highlight a players lax IQ and specific talents and expose what's missing. For example, can an attack just finish? Or can he dodge, feed, ride, go rt and lft, can he go from up top? With no game plan or plays, will the player attempt all these things?
This lack of "system" as well as no game plan or plays typically results in the ball in the stick way too long and very tough to watch, if anyone was at Nassau/Suffolk this was happening on just about every possession for both sides, "don't pass the ball as you will never get it back" was a great quote from one parent that day.

My experience is the kids who play within a team concept at the individual events and college camps are the one the coaches actually are interested in. The ball hogs are seen for what they are. Of course many kids and their parents dont understand that.

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The team with real players for 2017 is 91--

No one else in this division has attack players like them. Maybe fl$ should have taken them when they tried out.really?


Turtles destroy 91, sorry!


Is this the 2022 thread? Which team is better? fl$ should have grabbed them? Come on, grow up!It doesn't matter at this age as long as you are in recruiting tournaments. Bragging rights as to which team is better is for dumb parents who are concerned with the team magnet on the back of their car. If your son is a defensemen, you'd rather have those attack on an opponents team so that you/coaches can see how they rate against the best.


2018 Parent - would love to hear what tournaments this group thinks are THE tourneys to attend in the summer between freshman and sophomore years? Thanks for any input.

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Crabfeast is the only tournament that is meaningful.All the best teams are there hence there will be a lot of college coaches there. The other tournaments are all relatively the same.

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2018 Parent - would love to hear what tournaments this group thinks are THE tourneys to attend in the summer between freshman and sophomore years? Thanks for any input.


Crabfeast is the only tournament that is meaningful.All the best teams are there hence there will be a lot of college coaches there. The other tournaments are all relatively the same. [/quote]

Better take a look at the adrenalin platinum cup for this weekend. EVERY D1 school of note registered to watch and recruit.
2017 bracket is jacked. Only thing missing is the Maryland crews who can't form real 2017 teams

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Due to the split between Adrenaline and NSCLA, their respective tournaments are both this weekend. EVERY D1 school of note will also be at NSCLA.

All really good teams will be at Crabfeast. We all know which games will get the most coaches on those sidelines.

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Which one will get the most coaches? All really good teams at Crabfest? You are an a$$.

Hope your son has a great showing, but you are an a$$

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My take is the Summer will be more broken up than in the past with college coaches. I disagree all the best teams are doing the same tournaments, which is a shame, but agree the teams listed for NSLCA, Crabfeast and fl$ in 3d are most impressive.

I suspect that with 2-3 legit tournaments on same weekends is the new normal, and college coaches will split up their staff to canvas it. If you saw every D1 name coach at the Crabfeast in years past, that might be a thing of the past. The Crabfeast is also diluting more in the recent year or two because the club owner just blackballs other good clubs for stupid reasons. We all get it that he hates FCA for building a great program across the street and won't let Blackwolf in either just to name two, but to not welcome these other local elite programs at his big event makes him a fool more and more. I would guess coaches need to take seriously these different places like Adrenaline, 3d and IL are now running high level tournaments. We can all find out soon enough. Also, by now we have all been to the tournament where it lists big name schools and we could swear we missed seeing the guys from those programs, or at least could note it wasn't the head coach or first assistant there. Just because Hopkins is there doesn't mean Hopkins is really there with the top two evaluators.

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UA tryouts, 8 hours on the field and every D1 head coach in the country watching in Baltimore for $175 = best bargain in lacrosse.

Brine 2 hour tryout and hand back your pinkie against rec league kids for $165 = worst value and most pathetic money grab for nothing in lacrosse.

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My take is the Summer will be more broken up than in the past with college coaches. I disagree all the best teams are doing the same tournaments, which is a shame, but agree the teams listed for NSLCA, Crabfeast and fl$ in 3d are most impressive.

I suspect that with 2-3 legit tournaments on same weekends is the new normal, and college coaches will split up their staff to canvas it. If you saw every D1 name coach at the Crabfeast in years past, that might be a thing of the past. The Crabfeast is also diluting more in the recent year or two because the club owner just blackballs other good clubs for stupid reasons. We all get it that he hates FCA for building a great program across the street and won't let Blackwolf in either just to name two, but to not welcome these other local elite programs at his big event makes him a fool more and more. I would guess coaches need to take seriously these different places like Adrenaline, 3d and IL are now running high level tournaments. We can all find out soon enough. Also, by now we have all been to the tournament where it lists big name schools and we could swear we missed seeing the guys from those programs, or at least could note it wasn't the head coach or first assistant there. Just because Hopkins is there doesn't mean Hopkins is really there with the top two evaluators.


Look at the almost incestuous relationship between Hopkins and the Crabs

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I heard there will be a fair amount of college coaches at the Baltimore Summer Kickoff in Baltimore this weekend

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As a former college coach , not lacrosse, I feel that both perspectives have validity. When we were recruiting watching games we needed to know how the athlete played within a system, what kind of team player he was and how that athlete could contribute to a team. We found that multi sport team athletes had a higher sports iq then single sport athletes. An athlete that can play within a system is usually coachable also. The skills portion of individual workouts were important but has a great flaw. Many many times we saw athletes look like absolute stars when working through skills and drills. These were talented can't miss star type players. However, these same players just had no team iq and shrunk in a game. It was more frequent a player was a little less talentd in drills but a better game performer. It was no easy process and all coaches make mistakes. The one thing that always stood out was speed you can't teach it in any sport.

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As a former college coach , not lacrosse, I feel that both perspectives have validity. When we were recruiting watching games we needed to know how the athlete played within a system, what kind of team player he was and how that athlete could contribute to a team. We found that multi sport team athletes had a higher sports iq then single sport athletes. An athlete that can play within a system is usually coachable also. The skills portion of individual workouts were important but has a great flaw. Many many times we saw athletes look like absolute stars when working through skills and drills. These were talented can't miss star type players. However, these same players just had no team iq and shrunk in a game. It was more frequent a player was a little less talentd in drills but a better game performer. It was no easy process and all coaches make mistakes. The one thing that always stood out was speed you can't teach it in any sport.


Very true. Now please get back to bashing a player , team or coach.

just kidding, I think that you are spot on.

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Due to the split between Adrenaline and NSCLA, their respective tournaments are both this weekend. EVERY D1 school of note will also be at NSCLA.

All really good teams will be at Crabfeast. We all know which games will get the most coaches on those sidelines.


I believe you are quite mistaken. All of the great teams are at adrenaline

Mesa fresh
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Bring the crabs to this gauntlet. (Age appropriate, of course!)

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