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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…

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Anonymous #350338 09/21/21 09:33 AM
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Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia

I would bump ND and Hopkins up to that top group as they are both excellent schools with very strong lacrosse.

Combine the rest…. Yale, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Harvard and Columbia. Excellent schools but not top caliber lacrosse (not consistently Top 10-20).
Dartmouth was headed in the right direction, let’s see what the new coach does.

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Only 4 D1 programs have admission rates at 10%, Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, and Northwestern. Those schools reject lots of kids with perfect test scores, perfect grades, but no extracurriculars. Getting in with lax and on-the-cusp competitive academics is the Golden ticket! Kids from these schools soo pretty well in life comparatively;)

What blows my mind in all 4 above are Power 5, with each having endowments over 10 billion, 100 percent need based aid, and the aid is extremely generous, yet Somehow these schools do not have the very best lax yet in and out. Where are the Best/brightest lax kids that are willing to take a risk with the highest echelon of academics?

You forgot Princeton and Penn who have excellent top 20, often top 10 lax. Girls need minimum of 1300 SAT regardless of how good they are at lax for most of these schools. Not every one is an A+ student taking AP classes and scoring high on standardized tests. Eliminates a lot of girls. I think the list of combined great lax and elite academics are:

Princeton
Penn
Stanford
Northwestern
Duke

Then there are a bunch of schools that are either great academically and just OK at lax, or great at lax and still strong (10-20) academically like:

ND
Hopkins
Yale
Cornell
Brown
Dartmouth

Or top tier academics but stink at lax (blown out many games)

Vanderbilt
Harvard
Columbia

I would bump ND and Hopkins up to that top group as they are both excellent schools with very strong lacrosse.

Combine the rest…. Yale, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Vanderbilt, Harvard and Columbia. Excellent schools but not top caliber lacrosse (not consistently Top 10-20).
Dartmouth was headed in the right direction, let’s see what the new coach does.


Agree with you except for ND, they barely crack to top 20 academically, All the other schools are top 10 academically and Hopkins #9 so that makes sense.

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Anonymous #350346 09/21/21 11:06 AM
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Some more big visits this weekend. Expecting a bunch more top girls will make their choice. Most of the best schools will be filling their quota over the next week or so with the exception of Stanford, who will get the leftovers (some very good girls, but not the top)

Huge pick-up for Stanford announced today, Liz Hogan as a voluntary assistant to work with the goalies. Adding one of the best goalies ever to play the game rounds out a tremendous young coaching staff. Megan Whittle running the offense, just happens to be Maryland’s career goal leader. Britteny Orashen will lead the defense coming from the Associate Head Coaching role at Jacksonville and a sweet 16 appearance last season. Danielle Spencer as Head Coach, 3 national titles at Northwestern, led Dartmouth to an Ivy League title in her 3rd year there in 2019 and Stanford to a PAC12 championship in 2021 in her first year. Ranked 13th to start the 2022 campaign, they will have the best freshman eligible group in the country. Get on board 2023s!!!

Best ‘23s have committed elsewhere already, but good luck to them. A great coaching staff they have, just like many other teams. As far as best freshman class?? It doesn’t make it true just because your daughter goes there. Did you forget that some Ivies did not enroll last year. Pretty sure their freshman classes will be stacked as well! Bottom line is that the school is just too far away for most girls who have their pick of schools. Good luck to all!

No, I did not forget and I am a huge fan of Ivy League athletics. It would take some knowledge and research but I am just using data. Stanford 2020 recruiting class was ranked 2nd by Inside lacrosse with 4 Under Armour All-Americans. Of the 4, 3 red shirted last season and they were the #4, #6 and top ranked goalie according to Inside Lacrosse. None of the ivies had a top 10 ranked 2020 class. Add the red shirts to the 2021 class and that will be 6 UA All-Americans. Also, the Stanford 2021 and 2022 class commits made the finals at the HHH and Lake Placid committed events this summer. Obviously not the same as college games but it is an indicator of how talented the future Stanford commits are vs. their peers. They beat commits from BC, Northwestern and other top 10-20 schools. They only lost to UNC in the finals of both events. Not bad for nerd lacrosse…

Stanford is a great school with a very good lacrosse program. Happy to see some top tier recruits (UA All-Americans) going to Stanford. But for crying out loud please do not bring up a summer tournament as some kind indication of the actual strength of the team or the recruits. It is foolish to do so.

Good luck to Stanford, Congratulations to all of the players and recruits they made a great choice!

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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

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Anonymous #350376 09/21/21 04:19 PM
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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

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Anonymous #350377 09/21/21 04:35 PM
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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Currently about 10 Long Island girls publicly committed ...

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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Also consider girls like my daughter who has gone on 5 visits and has been offered great scholarships/ spots at 4 of the schools you mentioned but is not ready to choose yet. she is taking her time to see a couple more schools before she decides. Coaches have generally been great about waiting, but they won’t wait forever. Although several “top tier” recruits have committed, there are also a bunch that haven’t. That’s Whats mainly holding up the process

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What a whirlwind the last couple of weeks have been. DD set up visits with her top choices that called on Sept 1 -- called to start process, not offer --- but none of them made an offer while she was there. As we go deeper down the D1 list of schools that reached out, the schools are more "never heard of" territory and I'm starting to really suffer some parental fatigue from the visits. Any advice on next steps? She has called and responded to a few upcoming prospect day invitations at schools of interest, but no response.

Do not panic. In a polite persistent way make sure the entire coaching staff at all schools she would like to go to are aware of her genuine interest in playing for them and going to the school. Review her list and look into all other schools she might be interested in. Have club directors reach out to the coaches at her top choices to see if you can find out exactly where she stands. Stay positive and help your daughter to do the same. The process has just begun . How many 23’s have committed? 50? There will likely be 700-800 DI commits…. If your daughter was invited to visit there is interest, if they are not offering they most likely have higher ranked players on their list that they are trying to get. No coach/program gets all of the players that they want. Each time they miss, the coach moves down their list.
Stay positive and be proactive without being a pest to the coaches. The process is fluid, it changes everyday and where and when other players commit can impact your daughters position. We are very early in the process.

According to Inside Lacrosse there are approximately 50 public commits...

If you look at the 15 to 20 best programs (BC, MD, UNC, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, UVA, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook, JMU, Duke, PSU, ND, Stanford, USC, Loyola, Hopkins etc...) There are approximately 22 commits...

If you look at the Top 10 or so Academic schools that are not also Top Tier Lacrosse Programs (Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Cal etc...) There are approximately 18 commits....

These seem to be the most coveted schools/programs, they are great lacrosse programs or great schools or both. (yes, there are a lot of other great places but many on here would agree that these schools do not have a hard time finding kids that want to go to their school)

So, we are at about 40 commits for approximately 200 spots... 20%

Thats just for those schools, there are 90 other DI schools that offer women's lacrosse plus a lot of great DII and DIII opportunities .

If I were to guess, we will see approximately 40 LI girls commit to those top lacrosse or top academic schools in total.

This process takes a while, not everyone is offered the opportunity to commit in the first few weeks.

Good luck to all.

Also consider girls like my daughter who has gone on 5 visits and has been offered great scholarships/ spots at 4 of the schools you mentioned but is not ready to choose yet. she is taking her time to see a couple more schools before she decides. Coaches have generally been great about waiting, but they won’t wait forever. Although several “top tier” recruits have committed, there are also a bunch that haven’t. That’s Whats mainly holding up the process

The main takeaway is: this process has just begun. There will be several rounds of girls committing.
Coaches go back to the drawing board every time they lose a recruit and the elevate other players from “prospect” to “recruit”.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

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Have any clubs gotten 23 commits except YJ, TG, and Jesters ? Haven’t seen any legacy, 91, flg, etc commits

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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Seems great, and we are truly blessed, but it’s very hard to decide on THE ONE! Pros and cons to all. I do believe a lot of spots will open up in about a month.

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Wow to the parent of the kid with 4 offers! You must be exhausted from all those visits. It’s a LOT. But it must be a great problem to have. We are not in that boat!

Same here. Definitely an obnoxious post thinly veiled as “helpful”. This isn’t jealousy, just an opinion.

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laxbytes.com shows 88 commits so far

and for the parent who boasted, I mean posted, about their kid having multiple offers...2 weeks is the standard amount of time someone has to accept an offer or not. If you're getting more than that, you're kid is really lucky.

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