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Re: Welcome Philadelphia & Vicinity
Anonymous #343693 08/03/21 07:50 AM
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Dukes did it first. Assembled all star teams of Philly players so they could compete against MD and NY. That was 20 some years ago and then they morphed into 37 different "teams" and watered down their organization with little to no development. Every couple years a dad gets excited and tries to do a one off team again to win at the youth level for some reason instead of developing his kid for the next level. Youth sports is crazy. Have your boy play with a club that focuses on developing players and not just winning youth tourneys and he'll be better off in the long run.

Who would that be? Honestly asking as the clubs have no loyalty to the kids. Let’s start with Delco and Chester County….

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Agreed....trophy chasing teams (GRADES 5-8) rarely develop the talent of the team. Even the top players on those trophy chasing teams tend to regress because they are asked to shoulder the load constantly and rely on athleticism that gets equaled when they get to HS.

You sound amazing what is your team ranked?

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Teams take the best players that show up to tryouts, thats why they hold them each year. RR, Freedom and NXT all seem to have two teams at most age groups and I would think there is movement each year between their A & B teams for kids who improved and those that didnt keep up. One off teams have their place, however they are focused on winning and those that don't start probasee limited time in games.

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You sound amazing what is your team ranked?

Hahahhahaha... this guy. They are 12, I'm less concerned about the team ranking and my child improving and learning the game. Are your kids trophies in your room or his?

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?

And what is up with 28’s? Why is there no good 28 teams

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Freedom 28 is very good.

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?


There are so many clubs around Philly that it could be watered down. 2027 Team Ten appears to have scooped up most of the 27 RR talent so they should be dominate in this area but will probably lose to most of the elite MD teams. The area has talent but maybe most players/parents/coaches avoid forming super teams (Hawks ect) as it is not beneficial to the development of each player. Not much benefit of being a 4th line middie or 5th long pole on a team if your not playing

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?
I think at most ages, the top players consolidate enough that it is not an issue that we have so many clubs in this area. The '26s like you said are the one obvious age where talent is very spread out. After Tigers, there are a handful of teams that are very equal and all beat each other: NXT, RR, Freedom, Mesa. Pretty much a complete toss up when those clubs play each other. Outside of the Top 10 or so in the country, those teams can hang with anyone but maybe if those 4 combined into 2 teams, they would compete with the 5-10 teams nationally.

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?


There are so many clubs around Philly that it could be watered down. 2027 Team Ten appears to have scooped up most of the 27 RR talent so they should be dominate in this area but will probably lose to most of the elite MD teams. The area has talent but maybe most players/parents/coaches avoid forming super teams (Hawks ect) as it is not beneficial to the development of each player. Not much benefit of being a 4th line middie or 5th long pole on a team if your not playing

Do you really think there’s a concerted effort to not form “super teams” in Phila? What are they doing differently in MD and LI that those teams are generally stronger and placing higher in big tournaments? I doubt they have better athletes.

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Do you really think there’s a concerted effort to not form “super teams” in Phila? What are they doing differently in MD and LI that those teams are generally stronger and placing higher in big tournaments? I doubt they have better athletes.
They don't have better athletes but they do have better lacrosse players overall. Lax is a bigger focus in MD and LI even for their multi sport athletes. My son only plays lax as he doesn't enjoy any other sports, but in the fall 90% of his teammates focus on football and only play lax on Sundays. In the winter, 80% are playing hoops and a couple others playing hockey and don't even pick up their lax sticks. Philly just isn't at the same level of lax love and focus as MD and LI.

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?


There are so many clubs around Philly that it could be watered down. 2027 Team Ten appears to have scooped up most of the 27 RR talent so they should be dominate in this area but will probably lose to most of the elite MD teams. The area has talent but maybe most players/parents/coaches avoid forming super teams (Hawks ect) as it is not beneficial to the development of each player. Not much benefit of being a 4th line middie or 5th long pole on a team if your not playing

Do you really think there’s a concerted effort to not form “super teams” in Phila? What are they doing differently in MD and LI that those teams are generally stronger and placing higher in big tournaments? I doubt they have better athletes.

Ask the Tigers as they seem to be the only team to actually win and beat MD and LI.

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?

RR 26 kept their whole team together plus added some. Club is a wreck, but that team remains strong and is probably third best in Philly after Tigers and NXT

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?


There are so many clubs around Philly that it could be watered down. 2027 Team Ten appears to have scooped up most of the 27 RR talent so they should be dominate in this area but will probably lose to most of the elite MD teams. The area has talent but maybe most players/parents/coaches avoid forming super teams (Hawks ect) as it is not beneficial to the development of each player. Not much benefit of being a 4th line middie or 5th long pole on a team if your not playing

Come on pal stop equating development and losing. Teams that have developed players win. Teams that lose are not developed.

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Is it fair to say the Philly market has enough talent to only support two elite programs per grad year? I’m not real familiar with the 23 and 24 groups. 25’ has Triple H and Team Ten. 26’ is a bit different because of Tigers but Freedom and NXT are in the mix. RR was in the conversation at 26’ but seems to be falling apart as a whole in Phila. Now that the 27 RR team has completely fallen apart and it’s players spread out to a number of different clubs will it make other clubs that much better? Basically is the Philly area too watered down with too many clubs?


There are so many clubs around Philly that it could be watered down. 2027 Team Ten appears to have scooped up most of the 27 RR talent so they should be dominate in this area but will probably lose to most of the elite MD teams. The area has talent but maybe most players/parents/coaches avoid forming super teams (Hawks ect) as it is not beneficial to the development of each player. Not much benefit of being a 4th line middie or 5th long pole on a team if your not playing

Come on pal stop equating development and losing. Teams that have developed players win. Teams that lose are not developed.
Philly isn't as good as MD and LI in lax. There is no shame in it, just a simple fact. LI doesn't nothing but play lax, it's what kids are born to play there. They stink at football, basketball, soccer and any other sport played by many kids. If we got all of football and hoops stars playing lax at a young age it would be different and progress has been made but it is still a far cry from MD an LI overall.

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