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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

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There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.
What is your point? Shooting camps, etc., will only improve a player so much. Old fashion dedication and hard work and, in many cases, natural ability is still the best way towards success.

My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time..

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

That was constructive... the rules are thee same for everyone. What is the point of your post? What is your question? You give your observations and opinions and then you ask for advice. The advice was to "deal with it" and you somehow take offense to that.

The point is that "rule changes" impacting the face-off have been going on for the past 40 years (maybe longer). It is nothing new and the rules will be changed again in the next year or two. My advice is to deal with it.

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"My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time.."

I agree with the above statement, but when a player has has athletic ability and works hard AND has the access to additional trainers/training, well that is an additional advantage.

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

That was constructive... the rules are thee same for everyone. What is the point of your post? What is your question? You give your observations and opinions and then you ask for advice. The advice was to "deal with it" and you somehow take offense to that.

The point is that "rule changes" impacting the face-off have been going on for the past 40 years (maybe longer). It is nothing new and the rules will be changed again in the next year or two. My advice is to deal with it.

Below is a quote from Dom Starsia (former Virginia & Brown Coach)

- “We’ve won championships when we’ve been very good facing off,” Starsia said. “We’ve won championships when we’ve been only OK facing off. You do the best with what you’ve got.”

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"My district is one of the lower income districts. We have had multiple D2 commits and a couple D1 in the past few years.. Hard work and athletic ability will outpace money every time.."

I agree with the above statement, but when a player has has athletic ability and works hard AND has the access to additional trainers/training, well that is an additional advantage.


Welcome to the Republican Party! Yay capitalism.

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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.
Don't think they will go to a basketball style rule where, after a goal, the opposing team takes the ball in from the end line as this will not speed up the game. In fact, it will slow the game down and put too much emphasis on the ride which is an important part of the game but not the only thing. New rules are good and the shot clock are dramatic improvements.

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Anonymous #327673 04/21/21 03:03 PM
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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.
Don't think they will go to a basketball style rule where, after a goal, the opposing team takes the ball in from the end line as this will not speed up the game. In fact, it will slow the game down and put too much emphasis on the ride which is an important part of the game but not the only thing. New rules are good and the shot clock are dramatic improvements.


I know it has been discussed recently. If they do go this route, I don't see it happening for at least 5-8 years from now. My younger one was playing in a tournament this past fall and they had a no face off rule due tot covid. Going in I thought it would be terrible, It was actually pretty good. After each goal they started from the crease. As soon as the goalie fished the ball out of the cage, the ref blew the whistle to start play. Made the clears that much more important. the game flow was great. I would not mind see it at a higher level.

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Anonymous #327675 04/21/21 03:05 PM
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Qusetion for FOGO players/parents: I am assuming everyone will be playing with college rules. After watching college Lax, I am concerned especially with the officiating and the cheating I see. This rule change has destroyed the position and made it more about who can cheat and get away with it. So many kids going early and not being called. In the games I watch you can see kids going against each other twice in conference play with totally different outcomes. There are also Good fogos who play no competition like Lehigh and Hofstra who look like superstars where kids in the BIG ten who would probably be ahead are mostly tied except for Rutgers who stink at face offs. ACC is up and down as well, looking to see what happens Thursday with Duke /ND after the lopsided result last week. Think it will be different this time. It's vey hard to figure out. Any advice?

They have been changing the face-off rules every year or so since around 1979 - 80..... deal with it.


Yes, obviously it will be dealt with. Do you have anything constructive to add, or do you just enjoy trolling?

As the father of a FOGO, most every FOGO will push the limits of what is allowed. They will figure out quickly what the refs will allow. The ref will do his best to enforce his interpretation of the rules. The committee wanted a faster game. They got it, the shot clock, the new FO rules.. The new rules hurt my son, he is adapting and lucklily, he is behind a D1 commit and has this year to keep getting better..

The face off will eventually be eliminated. Very few college coaches on the rules committees support the face off. They prefer to a speed game with lots of points and parity. Envision something like basketball eliminating most jump balls.

LOLZ Says "anonymous" who isn't on the rules committee, doesn't know anyone on the rules committee, never played beyond h/s, never coached beyond peewee, BUT heard another parent say something like that in the stands one time.

This place is the best for completely unsubstantiated posts.

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There is no doubt wealthier districts / families have a distinct competitive advantage. A lot of money is spent on shooting, camps, agility, strength, private lessons that the majority of families simply can not allocate in their budgets. This is fact, but also life. No asterisk should be applied to any individual, parent or community that chooses to support that pursuit though.

The advantage has little to do with the "wealth" that these communities have -- they (Manhasset, Garden City, CSH) succeed because of the number of multi-generational lacrosse families that each town has.

That said Manhasset lacrosse will likely fall off significantly over the next ~20 years due to the influx of Asians from Queens.

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I agree the Face - Off should be eliminated. Make it like every other sport with alternate possession after a score. It's boring to watch, there's too much cheating and that would cut down on the roster specialty needs for every NCAA program. ACC schools have something like 5 or 6 faceoff guys and only one of them plays or 2 at the most in a game. Also, IMHO its completely dominated by kids whose parents or clubs are willing to pay for $100+/hour private training and the main guys leading the 'save the faceoff' charge are paying their mortgage that way.

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Face offs are the most exciting part of the game! This year they are so unpredictable, you never know what will happen! TD was just shut down hard by Georgetown's Reilly, who isn't even that good at face offs. So crazy! Looking forward to the Duke/ND matchup tomorrow

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