US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Should Travel Clubs Issue Partial Refunds if Lax is Cancelled?

Trust you. BOTC only deals in facts. Please reference the number of positive covid cases at these tourneys and the programs that were shut down. Me thinks you are spewing fake news.

STICK TO THE SCRIPT: NO REFUNDS! If you want to play the part of The Donald or Faucci go to another board. Fact is the pandemic is real, people still want to play lacrosse and you fools are NOT getting back one penny. Nor should you after reading some of the nonsense on here. Instead of regurgitating statistics or trading insults why dont you think about what you are going to do for the upcoming season because this season is OVER! Accept it.

The clubs can/will tell you everything you want to hear. They will give you sand when you are dying of thirst and you will drink it because you want to believe that it is water. Silly Rabbit...Tricks are for Lax Parents! And people that drink sand ultimately choke on it. Wake up Laxaholics!

NO Refunds, No tourneys,and Hush-hush watered down "play dates"...Oh My!! Whatcha gonna do for 2002/2021? Thats the real question.....

Wow. You seem to have lost your morals over lacrosse. A little fact for you to think about. There are programs in the PA, MD area where kids have been testing positive for COVID after these tournaments they have played. Some programs have shut down after opening and competing. Trust me when I tell you this, this is far from over.

Trust you. BOTC only deals in facts. Please reference the number of positive covid cases at these tourneys and the programs that were shut down. Me thinks you are spewing fake news.

I would be happy to provide the BOTC moderator a screenshot of an email from our club owner discussing an incident on our team this weekend. Please let me know how I can get this to you.

New York State just cancelled all fall sports!

No they didn't.

Wow. You seem to have lost your morals over lacrosse. A little fact for you to think about. There are programs in the PA, MD area where kids have been testing positive for COVID after these tournaments they have played. Some programs have shut down after opening and competing. Trust me when I tell you this, this is far from over.

What the intelligent posters on this site need to understand is this: The majority of your audience is defined by kiddie lacrosse and all that it is comprised of, This whole Lax culture IS THEIR IDENTITY. It is all they know and all they have. If you take that away from them by cancelling practices, games and tournaments then they have no purpose! No Facebook postings, No Instagram rants, no tee shirts or team pictures. They aren't about to stand by and willingly let Covid-19, Lax Clubs, Tournament organizers or the US Govt rob them of the very thing that defines them. Even if it jeopardizes everyone else around them. That's just the fact. You cannot un-teach ignorance so even trying is an exercise in futility and a complete waste of your time. Chew on that for a while.......

LAx is done. Print it

What the intelligent posters on this site need to understand is this: The majority of your audience is defined by kiddie lacrosse and all that it is comprised of, This whole Lax culture IS THEIR IDENTITY. It is all they know and all they have. If you take that away from them by cancelling practices, games and tournaments then they have no purpose! No Facebook postings, No Instagram rants, no tee shirts or team pictures. They aren't about to stand by and willingly let Covid-19, Lax Clubs, Tournament organizers or the US Govt rob them of the very thing that defines them. Even if it jeopardizes everyone else around them. That's just the fact. You cannot un-teach ignorance so even trying is an exercise in futility and a complete waste of your time. Chew on that for a while.......

You people are unbelievable and I doubt you can read but here's some info for you. Please watch something different than that hag Laura Ingraham:

The number of deaths from COVID-19 was estimated in early May to be approximately 65,000, which the authors agreed appeared similar to the estimated number of seasonal influenza deaths reported every year by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

However, that represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the way the CDC reports seasonal influenza morbidity and mortality.

From 2013-14 to 2018-19, the CDC reported yearly estimates of influenza deaths ranging from 23,000-61,000. However, the number of counted influenza deaths during those 2 seasons was 3448 and 15,620, respectively.

It would be more accurate to compare weekly counts of COVID-19 deaths to weekly counts of seasonal influenza deaths, the authors said, due to COVID-19 fatalities being counted and reported directly instead of estimated.

By the numbers, according to the paper:
There were 15,455 COVID-19 deaths reported in the US during the week ending April 21, 2020.
There were 14,478 COVID-19 deaths reported in the US during the week prior.
There were 351 flu deaths during the peak week (week 11 of 2016) of the flu season in 2015-16.
There were 1626 flu deaths during the peak week (week 3 of 2018) of the flu season in 2018-19.
“These statistics on counted deaths suggest that the number of COVID-19 deaths for the week ending April 21 was 9.5-fold to 44.1-fold greater than the peak week of counted influenza deaths during the past 7 influenza seasons in the US, with a 20.5-fold mean increase,” the authors wrote.

The CDC also recognizes that their COVID-19 death counts are continually revised due to delays in reporting. The authors believed that the ratio of counted COVID-19 deaths to flu deaths will rise. Additionally, they said their ratios are more clinically consistent with the experiences of health care workers on the front lines.

“We infer that either the CDC’s annual estimates substantially overstate the actual number of deaths caused by influenza or that the current number of COVID-19 counted deaths substantially understates the actual number of deaths caused by SARS-CoV-2, or both,” they wrote.

I resent that ! I can tell you in the strongest terms, that I dont do Facebook !

Can't wait to get pack out there and watch my kids 2030 team dominate! I've been staying in shape while in quarantine by pulling a loaded YETI cooler around yard for 20 minutes a day while wearing a Mask and then getting in reps of day drinking with a 15 beer minimum by 1:00pm. My kids got WHEELIES! His coach says he's got talent.

Are the Long Island Tournaments really going to happen?

Really? That’s very dangerous for the people on Long Island!

Really? That’s very dangerous for the people on Long Island!

Hofstra and Stony Brook cancelled fall sports! High School sports are postponed but LAX continues?!?!

You mean i not going to get a sampler(credit) of lax crack before the first payment is due? I'm sending a tax fraud form to the IRS.

No refund , partial refund . Just pay 1st payment by September. No thank you .

I look at it like this, no refunds, okay. My kid is a little under the weather, he wants to go to practice on Sunday, no problem, he will be there.

LI laxfest moved off LI to Nj.

I look at it like this, no refunds, okay. My kid is a little under the weather, he wants to go to practice on Sunday, no problem, he will be there.