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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299204
02/14/20 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any HOCO elite level teams also playing in the St Paul’s league?



I would hope not; that league over the last several years has gone down hill and is a waste of time unless your a rec team. If any elite team is playing in it, it will be 91. That's so they can brag about winning a championship that no one else is playing in.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299228
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Any HOCO elite level teams also playing in the St Paul’s league?



I would hope not; that league over the last several years has gone down hill and is a waste of time unless your a rec team. If any elite team is playing in it, it will be 91. That's so they can brag about winning a championship that no one else is playing in.


So where else do the elite level teams play?

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299256
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Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299261
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Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.


Who’s to say they would win every game? I think they’re scared to play in a league that consists of non elite competition because it’s a lose-lose situation for them. If they win against a non-elite level team it’s no big deal because they’re supposed to win, but if they have a bad day and they drop a game than their reputation takes a huge hit. Especially if they lost to a “rec” team. For years the vultures on this board would make comments like ““remember in 2020 when FCA lost to Perry Hall?” To be clear that was a made up example using random teams, and I have no connection to FCA or Perry Hall.

I don’t believe for one second that these teams are so good that no one outside of elite could ever give them a game though. We are still talking about kids. Ive seen teams in other sports at the elite levels drop games to competition that they wouldn’t normally lose to. Lacrosse is no different. Step outside of your bubble every now and then because a team may surprise you.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.


Who’s to say they would win every game? I think they’re scared to play in a league that consists of non elite competition because it’s a lose-lose situation for them. If they win against a non-elite level team it’s no big deal because they’re supposed to win, but if they have a bad day and they drop a game than their reputation takes a huge hit. Especially if they lost to a “rec” team. For years the vultures on this board would make comments like ““remember in 2020 when FCA lost to Perry Hall?” To be clear that was a made up example using random teams, and I have no connection to FCA or Perry Hall.

I don’t believe for one second that these teams are so good that no one outside of elite could ever give them a game though. We are still talking about kids. Ive seen teams in other sports at the elite levels drop games to competition that they wouldn’t normally lose to. Lacrosse is no different. Step outside of your bubble every now and then because a team may surprise you.

You obviously don't get out of Baltimore county much.


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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299282
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.


Who’s to say they would win every game? I think they’re scared to play in a league that consists of non elite competition because it’s a lose-lose situation for them. If they win against a non-elite level team it’s no big deal because they’re supposed to win, but if they have a bad day and they drop a game than their reputation takes a huge hit. Especially if they lost to a “rec” team. For years the vultures on this board would make comments like ““remember in 2020 when FCA lost to Perry Hall?” To be clear that was a made up example using random teams, and I have no connection to FCA or Perry Hall.

I don’t believe for one second that these teams are so good that no one outside of elite could ever give them a game though. We are still talking about kids. Ive seen teams in other sports at the elite levels drop games to competition that they wouldn’t normally lose to. Lacrosse is no different. Step outside of your bubble every now and then because a team may surprise you.



Have you watched the St. Paul league teams outside of the elite play? Anytime an elite team would play a 'rec club' team it was a double digit win. I am not saying that every once in a while the blind squirrel for find a nut, but to say these rec club teams can compete at an elite level is comical.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299284
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.


Who’s to say they would win every game? I think they’re scared to play in a league that consists of non elite competition because it’s a lose-lose situation for them. If they win against a non-elite level team it’s no big deal because they’re supposed to win, but if they have a bad day and they drop a game than their reputation takes a huge hit. Especially if they lost to a “rec” team. For years the vultures on this board would make comments like ““remember in 2020 when FCA lost to Perry Hall?” To be clear that was a made up example using random teams, and I have no connection to FCA or Perry Hall.

I don’t believe for one second that these teams are so good that no one outside of elite could ever give them a game though. We are still talking about kids. Ive seen teams in other sports at the elite levels drop games to competition that they wouldn’t normally lose to. Lacrosse is no different. Step outside of your bubble every now and then because a team may surprise you.



A 2 hour saturday practice is more beneficial to the kids than playing against teams that will likely be lesser competition. A quick look at the 2019 league shows that Team 91's only games where they were even remotely challenged were vs FCA. I would bet that a practice would be a better use of time than a 15-0 win over Koopers. Throw in the fact that it is 30-60 minutes further north from Blandair for the non Baltimore teams and I think you have your answer.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299290
02/17/20 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Many only play HOCO during early spring and then 3 or 4 tourneys in late spring and into summer. Instead of playing in leagues where they would dominate, the better squads appear to add an additional day of practice.


Who’s to say they would win every game? I think they’re scared to play in a league that consists of non elite competition because it’s a lose-lose situation for them. If they win against a non-elite level team it’s no big deal because they’re supposed to win, but if they have a bad day and they drop a game than their reputation takes a huge hit. Especially if they lost to a “rec” team. For years the vultures on this board would make comments like ““remember in 2020 when FCA lost to Perry Hall?” To be clear that was a made up example using random teams, and I have no connection to FCA or Perry Hall.

I don’t believe for one second that these teams are so good that no one outside of elite could ever give them a game though. We are still talking about kids. Ive seen teams in other sports at the elite levels drop games to competition that they wouldn’t normally lose to. Lacrosse is no different. Step outside of your bubble every now and then because a team may surprise you.



A 2 hour saturday practice is more beneficial to the kids than playing against teams that will likely be lesser competition. A quick look at the 2019 league shows that Team 91's only games where they were even remotely challenged were vs FCA. I would bet that a practice would be a better use of time than a 15-0 win over Koopers. Throw in the fact that it is 30-60 minutes further north from Blandair for the non Baltimore teams and I think you have your answer.


No no no, it's not that. He's right. They are scared.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #299292
02/17/20 12:45 PM
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Hilarious! Now all of the elite team parents will band together to defend all of the other elite teams they have been bashing for the last several years. This guy is a puppet master!

And he totally has a point...it’s a lose-lose for elite teams to play non-elite competition, which is probably why they shy away from it.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299294
02/17/20 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hilarious! Now all of the elite team parents will band together to defend all of the other elite teams they have been bashing for the last several years. This guy is a puppet master!

And he totally has a point...it’s a lose-lose for elite teams to play non-elite competition, which is probably why they shy away from it.


LOL. You clearly don't know how a forum works. HOCO has a B league and they can work their way up to Elite from that. But enjoy St Pauls this Spring, I hear the competition is outstanding.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299297
02/17/20 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hilarious! Now all of the elite team parents will band together to defend all of the other elite teams they have been bashing for the last several years. This guy is a puppet master!

And he totally has a point...it’s a lose-lose for elite teams to play non-elite competition, which is probably why they shy away from it.



The Saturday League for Elite Teams was generally used to play those kids who did not see much playing time on Sunday and they were still winning by double digit goals. What good does it do either team; Elite playing A or B level competition?

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #299302
02/17/20 05:07 PM
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SP league doo doo. Do not do.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #299309
02/18/20 12:26 AM
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Elite team parents are easily triggered.

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #299315
02/18/20 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
March18 Hoco should start. Predictions?


Hawks - Head and shoulders above all others
Team 91 - very good attack; need a few less wind games
Looney's - Need help on offense but have the best goalie at the elite level
FCA - Defense will carry this team
Madlax - never know what team will show up
BLC - big step back this year
Crabs - having next level in elite will keep them from the bottom; good FO
Next Level - will experience what elite level lax is about

Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #299320
02/18/20 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elite team parents are easily triggered.



Based on the response above of the parent who had a son cut from elite and is now at rec level I would disagree...........

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