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Re: Boys High School Lax [Re: Anonymous] #291730
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


Not sure what happened there. Not exactly sure what was written but to the effect. They (Manhattan) should - pull the trigger like Stony Brook - Thank God they (Stony Brook) got rid of their coach.

Again, wish Manhattan would look for a better coach not a fan of the man and their record. I think Manhattan coach needs to be an Assit under a real coach and learn how to be a better coach and human being. Assistance are very good and I hope they get a better man at the helm for them to succeed in their future.

I love going to a game at Hofstra or Stony Brook! Those two stadiums should house and be the center of all Nassau and Suffolk HS lax games. I hope the new Stony Brook coach promotes it.

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Buckle up for the rankings of the amazing 2021s.......some of whom should be 2019s!!! Lame.....

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Buckle up for the rankings of the amazing 2021s.......some of whom should be 2019s!!! Lame.....

The only rankings that count are college rankings, all stuff before is who you know.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.


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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.


gibberish


Regarding prior text about lacrosse players being an academic boost for the school.. where are you getting these facts from? You are correct about the major sports and many athletes not having the grades to get in without athletics and you are right that lacrosse doesn't make money for the school but your argument that lacrosse players are a boost to the overall GPA is tangentially related only because the coaches push their student athletes to get higher GPA's. The reason these schools have lacrosse are for prestige, reputation and history. Other than the kids actually love playing lacrosse the reason they work so hard at the sport is to get into a college he/she may not have been able to get into so the GPA theory doesn't really hold water.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.


Obviously someone who hasn't had any conversations with real college coaches. Some programs do hold their recruits to the same standards, but most if not all competitive programs will recruit the kids with the better grades to offset their studs with poor grades. I know of a kid who committed in 8th grade, but the school used academics as a way to keep him from the program because they recruited a stud who is better. That kid is now going to a really good school, but not a top contender like he was originally committed too.

Most of the coaches I spoke to are interested in my kid because he can play AND has good grades. They all have goals of academic averages for their sport, so they will use kids with better averages to help boost the average. But all coaches want to win, and the ones that are recruiting your kids will bring your kid in if they can help them win, not just to improve their average.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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a few topics i want to discuss

College coaches on the hot seat and the impact the carousel of coaches jumping has.

I think it is great the change from just a few years ago having the colleges wait until Junior year to recruit a player. Yes, a student should love the school so if the coach changes you still want to be at the school but the reality is, Lets say a school like Notre Dame. Byrne leaving for Havard is huge. Lets say a Duke/UVA/Yale recruit who didnt like Corrigan but loved Jerry would have most definitely considered Havard. Some will say the coaches just flip flopped, and I hear you but will agree to disagree.

NY schools

What has happened in Binghampton. Was the coach lucky in his first year with some really good transfers. Assit Coach jumping there is troubling. Being a top notch school why the heck hasnt NYS promoted this program. Am I the only one seeing this as a gold mine for some coach.

Canisius - does this school not appeal to LI kids.

Bonnies - welcome to the party

Colgate - could see a resurgence here, but take a cerytain student. ya really gotta like being away from everything

Cornell - Mighty mite. clear case where school means more than coach. Coach is good but a bit nepolianic rubbing poeple the wrong way.

Hobart - Hey guys put a few top contenders on your schedule -

'Cuse, losing a lot of recruits the past year, will there be a rebound, are some hot shot young players look up north. Love that staff but could things be heating up. Has Duke taken the kids you thought would have gone to 'Cuse. (Nope)

Siena - I see good things here

Albany - This is the perfect example of being a perfect fit both school and coach wise. Look at the coach and school if you fit this mold its perfect for you

Marist - Shocked it isnt any better nationally in lax. this is an amazing Campus.

Army - Thank you for your service!! Takes a special kid. unfortunately i dont see that in a few of their recruits and just have top shake my head.

Hofstra St Johns Manhattan and Wagner. I like McCutcheon from Momnmouth for Wagner. I am shocked why St Johns and Manhattan still havnt brought in real big name guys. St Johns, Manhattan and Hofstra do not have football but have hoops Lax could and should be a bigger focus. New Ad at Manhattan needs to pull the trigger and start the search. For a coach with a losing record should he


So much to share, but forgot Stony Brook. Please enlighten us about that team.


At most big schools the lacrosse team is the academic boost for the athletic program. Do you think the vast majority of players on Hofstra/SJU/Manhattan/Syracuse basketball teams have the grades to get in without their athletic prowess? This is why lacrosse players must have a GPA/SAT score equal to or slightly below the average for the University. The school uses these players for their brains. Lacrosse doesn't make any money for the school. it's a drain on the Athletic department funds, but the players provide a boost to the overall GPA of the athletic department, hence their value.


gibberish


Regarding prior text about lacrosse players being an academic boost for the school.. where are you getting these facts from? You are correct about the major sports and many athletes not having the grades to get in without athletics and you are right that lacrosse doesn't make money for the school but your argument that lacrosse players are a boost to the overall GPA is tangentially related only because the coaches push their student athletes to get higher GPA's. The reason these schools have lacrosse are for prestige, reputation and history. Other than the kids actually love playing lacrosse the reason they work so hard at the sport is to get into a college he/she may not have been able to get into so the GPA theory doesn't really hold water.


So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly.

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***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.

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18 year old junior who should be in college......

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worry about your own kid.

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***** "So in retrospect, lacrosse is a financial drain on institutions. Athletes can’t get in without the GPA of average student. Schools want lacrosse for prestige, reputation and history. A sport that gets less time on TV than women’s softball offers reputation? Prestige? History? You realize half the country doesn’t know a thing about lacrosse. So what you are saying is if there is a kid with bad grades and sub par SAT’s, but he’s a lacrosse phenomenon PSU, Michigan or UNC or UVA will take them? Hardly."******

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Nobody said "bad grades" whatever that means. But yes, PSU, Michigan, UNC, UVA as well as Duke, Notre Dame, Harvard, Yale Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Georgetown etc... will all admit student athletes who fall significantly below the norm for non-athletes.



Agreed

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This “midnight madness” lacrosse event is the densest thing I’ve ever heard of. Neither the players or the parents want to be playing/watching lax in the middle of the night. They should run the event 8-12. At the conclusion, coaches can talk to players. Who came up with this idea?....Obviously a Lax Bro, #tyxanders

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