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Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019
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Jingle Bells, Holdbacks smell, 30 kids on a team laid an egg. The Express mobile lost it's wheel and Chan got away. Hey

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Everyone complains that Express, and some others, have inflated rosters. Why wouldn't they? If you were selling some world famous hot dogs for $1 a piece and I offered you $2 for one because I wanted to tell people that I got one on your world famous hot dogs, would you take it? Of course you would. It's free money. These parents are making it too easy for clubs. Stop giving them your money if you're unhappy with the product.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone complains that Express, and some others, have inflated rosters. Why wouldn't they? If you were selling some world famous hot dogs for $1 a piece and I offered you $2 for one because I wanted to tell people that I got one on your world famous hot dogs, would you take it? Of course you would. It's free money. These parents are making it too easy for clubs. Stop giving them your money if you're unhappy with the product.


Parents will continue to shell out insane amounts of money for a dead end sport. Parents, are hooked on chasing status. Even though, not all, but the majority of them don't even have 2 nickles to rub together, everything is paid for by credit card. Home is mortgaged to hilt, with couple of leased cars in the driveway, especially the 80K white Chevy Suburban for the Mom. Which results in many lacrosse parents throwing good money at bad money.

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Calling lacrosse a dead end sport simply because it doesn't lead to many professional opportunities is ridiculous, sports are for the development of character. What percentage of basketball players go on to play professionally? Exactly.

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Everyone complains that Express, and some others, have inflated rosters. Why wouldn't they? If you were selling some world famous hot dogs for $1 a piece and I offered you $2 for one because I wanted to tell people that I got one on your world famous hot dogs, would you take it? Of course you would. It's free money. These parents are making it too easy for clubs. Stop giving them your money if you're unhappy with the product.


Parents will continue to shell out insane amounts of money for a dead end sport. Parents, are hooked on chasing status. Even though, not all, but the majority of them don't even have 2 nickles to rub together, everything is paid for by credit card. Home is mortgaged to hilt, with couple of leased cars in the driveway, especially the 80K white Chevy Suburban for the Mom. Which results in many lacrosse parents throwing good money at bad money.

That’s great lol

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Calling lacrosse a dead end sport simply because it doesn't lead to many professional opportunities is ridiculous, sports are for the development of character. What percentage of basketball players go on to play professionally? Exactly.


It is a dead end sport for the price you pay now a days , in college the student body doesn’t even watch the games. Stop believing yourself development of character. I know JR’s and Sr’s now in Div 1,2 colleges know there parents , they can’t belive when I tell them the cost of these clubs teams and how many teams are out there. The jr and Sr now never experience what we are dealing with.

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Originally Posted by yaboijeffy
Calling lacrosse a dead end sport simply because it doesn't lead to many professional opportunities is ridiculous, sports are for the development of character. What percentage of basketball players go on to play professionally? Exactly.


It is a dead end sport for the price you pay now a days , in college the student body doesn’t even watch the games. Stop believing yourself development of character. I know JR’s and Sr’s now in Div 1,2 colleges know there parents , they can’t belive when I tell them the cost of these clubs teams and how many teams are out there. The jr and Sr now never experience what we are dealing with.

So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change

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Calling lacrosse a dead end sport simply because it doesn't lead to many professional opportunities is ridiculous, sports are for the development of character. What percentage of basketball players go on to play professionally? Exactly.


It is a dead end sport for the price you pay now a days , in college the student body doesn’t even watch the games. Stop believing yourself development of character. I know JR’s and Sr’s now in Div 1,2 colleges know there parents , they can’t belive when I tell them the cost of these clubs teams and how many teams are out there. The jr and Sr now never experience what we are dealing with.

So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change
Have you even been watching what has been going on with lacrosse. They just got recognized lacrosse for the Olympics, there is a new Professional lacrosse league starting up. All good things for the sport. So you may want to rethink what you are saying. They are really making a push for the sport.

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So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change
Have you even been watching what has been going on with lacrosse. They just got recognized lacrosse for the Olympics, there is a new Professional lacrosse league starting up. All good things for the sport. So you may want to rethink what you are saying. They are really making a push for the sport.[/quote]


Some select group of today's 8th graders will benefit themselves/their families from the "investment" in one or more ways:

- Get into a better high school and/or college and thus, possibly, improve their future earnings potential
- Get money from said college (note that pretty much no kids get full rides for lax)
- Eventually play professionally (and make almost no money unless you are one of a handful of superstar players)

Each of those outcomes is progressively less likely. The monetary value of those possible outcomes is, on average, nowhere close to the amount of money parents spend on club membership, clinics, camps, equipment and travel. Lacrosse, like every youth sport, is a money lost for parents. It is probably worse than most other sports.

If your kid enjoys the game, and you enjoy watching them compete, than pursue it. If you think that you are making an "investment", you should probably just buy a lottery ticket instead - better return. smile

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So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change
Have you even been watching what has been going on with lacrosse. They just got recognized lacrosse for the Olympics, there is a new Professional lacrosse league starting up. All good things for the sport. So you may want to rethink what you are saying. They are really making a push for the sport.



Some select group of today's 8th graders will benefit themselves/their families from the "investment" in one or more ways:

- Get into a better high school and/or college and thus, possibly, improve their future earnings potential
- Get money from said college (note that pretty much no kids get full rides for lax)
- Eventually play professionally (and make almost no money unless you are one of a handful of superstar players)

Each of those outcomes is progressively less likely. The monetary value of those possible outcomes is, on average, nowhere close to the amount of money parents spend on club membership, clinics, camps, equipment and travel. Lacrosse, like every youth sport, is a money lost for parents. It is probably worse than most other sports.

If your kid enjoys the game, and you enjoy watching them compete, than pursue it. If you think that you are making an "investment", you should probably just buy a lottery ticket instead - better return. smile[/quote]

So true. Listening to some parents talk about their son moving on, playing college lacrosse, blah, blah, blah! On top of that, when ask, what the kid will major in, I receive the same boiler plate answer; Finance... Personally, standing around during practice, tournaments, etc talking about 13 year old kids the majority of the day/weekend is a total waste of time and money. If my kid didn't enjoy playing lacrosse along with other sports, it would be fine with me. As a union crane operator, what the heck do I know. Recognized lacrosse for the Olympics? Who gives a dam!

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So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change
Have you even been watching what has been going on with lacrosse. They just got recognized lacrosse for the Olympics, there is a new Professional lacrosse league starting up. All good things for the sport. So you may want to rethink what you are saying. They are really making a push for the sport.



Some select group of today's 8th graders will benefit themselves/their families from the "investment" in one or more ways:

- Get into a better high school and/or college and thus, possibly, improve their future earnings potential
- Get money from said college (note that pretty much no kids get full rides for lax)
- Eventually play professionally (and make almost no money unless you are one of a handful of superstar players)

Each of those outcomes is progressively less likely. The monetary value of those possible outcomes is, on average, nowhere close to the amount of money parents spend on club membership, clinics, camps, equipment and travel. Lacrosse, like every youth sport, is a money lost for parents. It is probably worse than most other sports.

If your kid enjoys the game, and you enjoy watching them compete, than pursue it. If you think that you are making an "investment", you should probably just buy a lottery ticket instead - better return. smile


So true. Listening to some parents talk about their son moving on, playing college lacrosse, blah, blah, blah! On top of that, when ask, what the kid will major in, I receive the same boiler plate answer; Finance... Personally, standing around during practice, tournaments, etc talking about 13 year old kids the majority of the day/weekend is a total waste of time and money. If my kid didn't enjoy playing lacrosse along with other sports, it would be fine with me. As a union crane operator, what the heck do I know. Recognized lacrosse for the Olympics? Who gives a dam![/quote]

You’re way off. Getting into a better college and improve your earnings potential is the best ROI from all this lax money. Hard to put a number on it but the likely differences in post college earnings between Maryland and any Ivy is massive. Changes your life trajectory.

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So true but is is all driven by clubs and college coaches and will never change
Have you even been watching what has been going on with lacrosse. They just got recognized lacrosse for the Olympics, there is a new Professional lacrosse league starting up. All good things for the sport. So you may want to rethink what you are saying. They are really making a push for the sport.



Some select group of today's 8th graders will benefit themselves/their families from the "investment" in one or more ways:

- Get into a better high school and/or college and thus, possibly, improve their future earnings potential
- Get money from said college (note that pretty much no kids get full rides for lax)
- Eventually play professionally (and make almost no money unless you are one of a handful of superstar players)

Each of those outcomes is progressively less likely. The monetary value of those possible outcomes is, on average, nowhere close to the amount of money parents spend on club membership, clinics, camps, equipment and travel. Lacrosse, like every youth sport, is a money lost for parents. It is probably worse than most other sports.

If your kid enjoys the game, and you enjoy watching them compete, than pursue it. If you think that you are making an "investment", you should probably just buy a lottery ticket instead - better return. smile


So true. Listening to some parents talk about their son moving on, playing college lacrosse, blah, blah, blah! On top of that, when ask, what the kid will major in, I receive the same boiler plate answer; Finance... Personally, standing around during practice, tournaments, etc talking about 13 year old kids the majority of the day/weekend is a total waste of time and money. If my kid didn't enjoy playing lacrosse along with other sports, it would be fine with me. As a union crane operator, what the heck do I know. Recognized lacrosse for the Olympics? Who gives a dam!


You’re way off. Getting into a better college and improve your earnings potential is the best ROI from all this lax money. Hard to put a number on it but the likely differences in post college earnings between Maryland and any Ivy is massive. Changes your life trajectory. [/quote]

Not really. You can go to Maryland and become a CEO of a Fortune 500 company and you can go to Harvard and get stuck in middle management. Sure, college helps and it opens doors but some of the most successful guys I know went to pretty unimpressive schools. Lot of variables go into the success equation, college is just one.

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You’re way off. Getting into a better college and improve your earnings potential is the best ROI from all this lax money. Hard to put a number on it but the likely differences in post college earnings between Maryland and any Ivy is massive. Changes your life trajectory. [/quote]

This guy gets it. If your kid is not in the top 1% you should be sending your kid to a D3 NESCAC if he is smart instead of a D1 outside the top 10 where you have zero chance of winning the national championship - maybe 10% outside the top 10 even have a chance of making the NCAA tournament one time in their 4 years of college - once! It is about academics - (unless you are a union person then this doesn't really apply) and improving your chances to succeed.

Plus the top D3 would beat anyone outside the top 20 in D1 anyway

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You’re way off. Getting into a better college and improve your earnings potential is the best ROI from all this lax money. Hard to put a number on it but the likely differences in post college earnings between Maryland and any Ivy is massive. Changes your life trajectory.


Getting into an Ivy League school (AND PAYING FOR IT - no Athletic scholarships) is probably not the best ROI for a kid who might end up struggling academically there. A close family member had that situation. He would have been much better off in life going to Maryland over his Ivy.

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