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LI parents are in for a rude awakening if some 10 yr old playing down gets you all upset. Wait till you play the Md,philly, and Boston teams in a few years. Not to mention Canadian and any teams off the reservations.

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No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha

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It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.

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Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?


He's making the point that although the 2021 team is good, since Igloo doesn't have teams in the older grades they won't get any quality showcase invitations. That's why Igloo will find it very hard to exist in a few years.


Doesn't work that way. Invites when they mean something will go to the best player. Of course any showcase 91 is involved in will do their best to shut out better kids so theirs get highlighted, which is a disrace. Honor the game??

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To be clear - Igloo knew all about the 2022 kid they had on the 2023 team last year from the beginning. It was known all the way up the chain to AA who approved it. The 2022 kid is not on DK's new team. He is now on Outlaws 2022.

Now let's please move on...


He is not on 2022 Outlaws.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.

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No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha


Blatant Fall Jam - they played Express B, Igloo B, Top Side Snipers and Hitmen to win the 6th Grade South bracket.

In the Shamrock Shootout, they played in the only 2022 division, but their opponents were Duke's National team, Empire Green and Hitmen. With all due respect, not an "A" bracket -- but you can't fault them in that case.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


Sounds like it! I don't believe one bit of this! There are plenty of teams out there getting kids recruited. NLF is just another money grab. If the kid is good, he will be recruited to a good program. Nobody is recruiting the scrubs just because they are a NLF member! That's funny! FYI: if your kid does not start he's nor likely to be recruited.

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It is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


Sounds like it! I don't believe one bit of this! There are plenty of teams out there getting kids recruited. NLF is just another money grab. If the kid is good, he will be recruited to a good program. Nobody is recruiting the scrubs just because they are a NLF member! That's funny! FYI: if your kid does not start he's nor likely to be recruited.

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Quote ""t is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.""

Getting on a top club at this age is a waste because the Directors sell you a dream of making the club, take your $100 at tryouts, and are bringing back the same kids. All while they collect $100 x 500 kids at tryouts. Stay on the team you are currently on and when your kid gets into high school go to Prospect camps with the college they want to go to.

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I think the point is the NLF kids can do the prospect camps too. Those camps get very expensive with fees and travel costs. Also very time consuming.

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Quote ""t is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.""

Getting on a top club at this age is a waste because the Directors sell you a dream of making the club, take your $100 at tryouts, and are bringing back the same kids. All while they collect $100 x 500 kids at tryouts. Stay on the team you are currently on and when your kid gets into high school go to Prospect camps with the college they want to go to.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.

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No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha


Blatant Fall Jam - they played Express B, Igloo B, Top Side Snipers and Hitmen to win the 6th Grade South bracket.

In the Shamrock Shootout, they played in the only 2022 division, but their opponents were Duke's National team, Empire Green and Hitmen. With all due respect, not an "A" bracket -- but you can't fault them in that case.


Who cares if they play A or B??? Just let them play 2022 so our boys have a shot at winning! Lol!

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.


Outside of the NLF, what other exclusive/ exclusionary club partnerships exist?

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None in New [lacrosse]. All that exist are far and don't take Long Island teams.
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You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.


Outside of the NLF, what other exclusive/ exclusionary club partnerships exist?

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NLF is not local either. They operate out of Bradenton FL. They have just expanded to the North. At least one Long Island team tried to join but were denied. With these types of groups It appears a club needs to have top teams in each year and a history of having top teams in the recruitment years to join. That seams to be the way all these groups work. Of course there is politics as with all groups so odds are teams are also denied because existing members won't allow a club in.

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were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade

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I'm curious to hear what the college colleges who run smaller clubs now will have to say when the NLF tells them they are not invited because they have no history of successful teams!

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were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade


You're righr, you are silly. To think you're kid will be recruited at all. You do realize that most don't. Parents are living in dream world! And just because your kid is a great player in 5th, means very little. My son is now a senior. Only one of the starters on his very good 5th grade team was recruited. Ironically the best kid from that team turned out to be a 3rd string middie! Just let your kid play and have fun, don't buy into all this NLF crap. There will be plenty of opportunities to be noticed if you are a stand out player!

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were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade


You're righr, you are silly. To think you're kid will be recruited at all. You do realize that most don't. Parents are living in dream world! And just because your kid is a great player in 5th, means very little. My son is now a senior. Only one of the starters on his very good 5th grade team was recruited. Ironically the best kid from that team turned out to be a 3rd string middie! Just let your kid play and have fun, don't buy into all this NLF crap. There will be plenty of opportunities to be noticed if you are a stand out player!


Recruitment aside, NLF tourneys will draw the best conpetition.

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Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?

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Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??

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Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??


I can't believe it took this long for this to get posted. would have thought it would have gone up during the drive back on 95

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Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??


I can't believe it took this long for this to get posted. would have thought it would have gone up during the drive back on 95


Badgers are a perfect team. Express is a perfect club. There is no infighting. They are better than last year. These are not the drones you're looking for.

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I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?

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I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?

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I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


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not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.

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I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?


not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.


The blue team from East Islip.

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Brentwood

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I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


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not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.


The blue team from East Islip.


They one a weak fall tourney and claimed to be better than everyone but the Bandits. Now they lose to a mediocre team and it's crickets. Typical.

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Who did they play?

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The only thing that is typical is everyone has their facts wrong. Shore 2 Shore has not scrimmaged anybody this spring, only practices. Someone has the wrong team or just stirring the pot.

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Any teams playing in Pro Player Spring Jam next weekend? Rumor has it the competition will be very impressive for a preseason tournament.

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Team Hills 2023
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ESM 2024/2023
Smithtown2023

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The British are coming, the British are coming!!!!

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Is team hills travel or town team ?

We played in syosset shootout and they were not allowed to play in championship game because they had many players from other outside towns. Is this the same team?

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Team Hills 2023
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Smithtown2023


Not the town this weekend. The travel next weekend.

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Is team hills travel or town team ?

We played in syosset shootout and they were not allowed to play in championship game because they had many players from other outside towns. Is this the same team?


No, totally different team. These are hills kids. PAL 2nd team.

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will see. would be shameful to be disqualified again and for the handful of true hills boys to deal go through the embarrassment.

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I'm sure JC will have a Huntington team with a roster full of non-local kids.

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100% correct. To add to statement on prior post, it's same leadership who makes it a totally different team and goes under different team names. At syosset they went as huntington, disqualied to play in finals after discovered many outsiders used. Blatant tourney went under huntington as well used few outsiders, many upset parents spilled the beans on sidelines to the other teams parents.let's see what happens this weekend. keep it simple, let the boys from their town play with no outsiders.

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