Boys 2023-5th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

BOTC is opening our Fall 2015 through Summer 2016 thread covering the Boys 2023-5th Grade age group.

So many teams in this age group are going to be really good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So many teams in this age group are going to be really good.

What teams do you know will be tops?

So do you see a shift coming in the age to a little more physical play? My oldest is in this so this is new to me. I noticed some kids getting a little more physical this year, mainly some of the bigger kids. I'm not complaining, just asking if this is where it is "allowed" to start coming out more? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So do you see a shift coming in the age to a little more physical play? My oldest is in this so this is new to me. I noticed some kids getting a little more physical this year, mainly some of the bigger kids. I'm not complaining, just asking if this is where it is "allowed" to start coming out more? Thanks

I started playing my son up to 6th grade this year because he has gotten a lot better stick skills and faster. This is a good age to test the physicalness of the kids. In my opinion.

What is happening with HB? All kinds of rumors swirling. Are they dead?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is happening with HB? All kinds of rumors swirling. Are they dead?

No. BM out though.

Going to be an interesting tryout season for sure. BM out. How many go with him? How many stay?? And with who?

HB? Hampton bays?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HB? Hampton bays?

honey Badgers. LI Express team.

What club would hire BM?
His only dream was to beat the Bandits.

I've dreamed about beautiful woman, I've dreamed about winning a big lotto. I can honestly say I've never dreamed about my sons 10 year old lacrosse team winning a game.

Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?

Whether or not he left on his own or was asked to leave is irrelevant. That kind of instability is going to hurt the team. Wherever he goes, a few boys will likely follow. I've heard of a few of the other boys moving to other teams even before is announcement. Looks like the #2 slot is up for grabs next year.

BM was told to leave. Then tried to take team with him but according to a few there were no takers. He is claiming the HB name so for all of you who dreamed of having a child on the badgers there are plenty of spots available!!!! Next thing you know he'll be begging for express to take him back. How pathetic. Maybe the Bandits will take him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?

Whether or not he left on his own or was asked to leave is irrelevant. That kind of instability is going to hurt the team. Wherever he goes, a few boys will likely follow. I've heard of a few of the other boys moving to other teams even before is announcement. Looks like the #2 slot is up for grabs next year.

Was told he left after a blowout with other coach. The Honey Badger name has always been an issue with the Express guys so I imagine it eventually was the straw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BM was told to leave. Then tried to take team with him but according to a few there were no takers. He is claiming the HB name so for all of you who dreamed of having a child on the badgers there are plenty of spots available!!!! Next thing you know he'll be begging for express to take him back. How pathetic. Maybe the Bandits will take him

Sounds like Mike Chanenchuk is back on the boards. LOL That's pathetic!!

Why would BM be told to leave? Doubt the rumor. His passion is to beat the Bandits. The Express parents don't know what's going on. AJ is second in command and he'll be next.

If you don't know why BM was asked to leave then you never played HB saw what was happening on the sidelines. It was a disgrace. The boys succeeded despite him. Good for them

What an inaccurate statement. Check your facts before spewing your stupidity. I guess it's easy to throw a whole bunch of nonsense out there to see what sticks when you're able to do so behind a cloak of anonymity.

That is spot on. I saw them play Igloo late in season and he was nuts on the sideline.
So where is BM going with the HB name? Need to make sure I don't pay for that tryout.

Turmoil at Express. Hopefully the cheap shot defender is leaving.

BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.

Does anyone know how many teams Legacy and Outlaws have in this age group?

Does anyone know who the 2023 Coach of Bluefish will be?

Why is the True Blue website not updated since year 2014? They haven't announced fees, how many practices, who the coaches are, tournaments, etc. And they are asking to have you sign up and pay money for tryouts? Somebody from True Blue please explain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the True Blue website not updated since year 2014? They haven't announced fees, how many practices, who the coaches are, tournaments, etc. And they are asking to have you sign up and pay money for tryouts? Somebody from True Blue please explain.

I suggest that you register and sign in and ask this question in the Tryout thread. It is doubtful that anyone from True Blue will see it here. If you have reasonable questions, which it appears that you do, post them in the correct thread.

The head coach will be Coach Cat again who is also the co-head coach at Adelphi University

[quote=Anonymous] BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.[/quote

Not true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.[/quote

Not true.

Only part not true is that a that a bunch of badgers would follow.

BM is getting a raw deal. He started the Honey Badgers and had to answer to owners who's program is falling apart and only about the money.

2023 BlueFish..who cares..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 BlueFish..who cares..

Dude, it's Seth Tierny. His reputation is on the line. It's gonna be great.

He built the Badgers into a winner.BM is a very good coach...In fact, relentless! Wherever he goes the team is going to improve dramatically. .

So Seth Tierney himself will coach the 2023 team? Or is he just the Director of the program and we will see someone else at practices? Coaches make a huge difference for any team. Just want to know what I would be getting if my son made the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 BlueFish..who cares..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 BlueFish..who cares..

some people might. shouldn't really bother you but it seems you are one of the minority on here who post a majority of the negativity. you can bash them next year after some supposed slight you feel you got.

Would you send your kid to an extra tryout or 2 just to get some practice before his "real" tryout, if it was cost effective?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 BlueFish..who cares..

Your from Jersey....who cares

Planning to do a few tryouts keeping all options open. Problem is a lot of the tryouts are on same weekend and some overlap times completely. So sorting through what is best option. One criteria coming down to who is coaching. A lot of uncertainty and drama out there on 2023.

The 2 best coaches for this grade are probably the 91 Bandits and True Blue. The Bandits are coached by a MLL Coach and TB is coached by a college Coach. The Outlaws have a lot of good coaches but I don't know who coaches this grade.

True Blue???
Spalina - amazing coach
True Blue - absolutely irrelevant at this age group

Irrelevant? True Blue has JC from Adelphi University coaching! Anyone in the Lax world would tell you he is a great coach. Just look at his 2017 team and all the big time recruits he has. Let me guess your kid plays on some big name team with a coach that played somewhere in college but has Zero coaching background? Good luck with that. This person asked about great coaching not big name teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Irrelevant? True Blue has JC from Adelphi University coaching! Anyone in the Lax world would tell you he is a great coach. Just look at his 2017 team and all the big time recruits he has. Let me guess your kid plays on some big name team with a coach that played somewhere in college but has Zero coaching background? Good luck with that. This person asked about great coaching not big name teams.

My kid's coach, who is also his father, is a drunk and a loud mouth. No one like him!

Thought long and hard about this upcoming year. My kid is a 3 sport athlete and unless we have him truly focus on lacrosse and play year round, he will be delegated to a "B" team. We are going to forgo any tryouts and play with our town team which happened this year. We will take some beatings, but at least he will play with the kids who he will end up in HS with and get coached by our HS coaches. No more BS playing for teams that are in it for the money.

Thanx for the heads up. We were all waiting on pins and needles for you to make your announcement on your sons future before we choose a team for our sons to tryout for. Glad you did it sooner than later.

Finally a parent that has a clue. Why pay these guys a lot of $ so your kids can have swag from these elite programs so you the parents can say We play for so and so..Remember you dont play. Your kid plays. Have them try out for a travel program in 7th/8th grade when it mattters. Play as many sports as they can when they are young.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue???
Spalina - amazing coach
True Blue - absolutely irrelevant at this age group

Get off his ****. You can't even spell his name !!
Loser

My son is going to try out for a few teams. What are your thoughts on Outlaws, or Igloo ? These seem to be the best (good players, practices and tourney choices) options after those two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is going to try out for a few teams. What are your thoughts on Outlaws, or Igloo ? These seem to be the best (good players, practices and tourney choices) options after those two.

What about the other teams? I know you guys aren't a fan of some teams, but to censor comments kind of makes you seem petty and, more importantly, it hurts the credibility of this site. It very disappointing. You're changing the comments of others to support your agenda.

Coaching is the most important decision. At the end of the year you want your kid to be a better player than when he started.

The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo

What tournaments did they enter? How did they fare? Did they play Express, or Outlaws?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo

Bob????

Express is a mess with BM leaving. It seems like that program is having a lot of problems recently. 91 Bandits best by far last year. Legacy True Blue and Igloo will all be very good A Division teams this year. Igloo gets a new coach this year so not sure how that is going to play out.

Igloo not solid either. New coach. Unproven. No assistant named yet although rumors are not positive. It will be interesting to see how many players stick around or jump to teams with stronger foundation/coaching.

2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanx for the heads up. We were all waiting on pins and needles for you to make your announcement on your sons future before we choose a team for our sons to tryout for. Glad you did it sooner than later.

Thanks for your input. He was making a statement about the ridiculous travel scene obviously. Maybe you should read things twice and think about the message before slapping the keyboard in disgust.

Who is coaching Legacy?

I am sure express has their team hand picked again this year. If they didn't call you for a tryout you might want to think long and hard before wasting your 100 bucks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo

What tournaments did they enter? How did they fare? Did they play Express, or Outlaws?

Those are all bottom tier A teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo not solid either. New coach. Unproven. No assistant named yet although rumors are not positive. It will be interesting to see how many players stick around or jump to teams with stronger foundation/coaching.

Wait, I thought Santa was coaching IGLOO because the boys need someone to nurture them, and not be so darn negative. Santa knows the 1-3-2 motion offense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is coaching Legacy?

A lot of turmoil with Legacy at this age level. Coaches of both teams are in turmoil.

How many spots are available on Outlaws 2023?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many spots are available on Outlaws 2023?

A lot of spots open. Bring your $100

We'll see how long Santa lasts when they don't win any games because they were too nurtured! Not to mention the whole team is turning over. Too bad. Everyone thought they had something going.

Bluefish started this year

If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true

Yeah, have seen it at the Outlaws this past season.

Bluefish looks very very interesting! If Tierney pulls it off and gets the numbers at tryouts it could be problematic for other Nassau clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish looks very very interesting! If Tierney pulls it off and gets the numbers at tryouts it could be problematic for other Nassau clubs.

Tierney will not be showing up. All of the other start ups had the same thing, great Director, but no support. It's all about the money and taking advantage of the growing lax scene. Who are the coaches for Bluefish?

It certainly can't hurt to tryout for Bluefish. Hopefully Bluefish gets a good showing at tryouts, my son will definitely be much better off surrounded by talented players rather than playing for his current wannabe travel team, the talent just isn't there. I'm confident there will be quality coaches for Bluefish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true

Yeah, have seen it at the Outlaws this past season.

Haha you are funny just another s##t stirrer - unfortunately there will always be an unhappy daddy trying to live through his son complaining about some coach or their son- my advise to anyone is to try out for a few clubs, while there speak to the other parents and ask questions about what the club offers, talk to the "coaches" at the try outs and make a decision based on your needs not on which team claims to be the best or has the nicest helmet wraps, then most of all TALK to your son and ask him how he feels about who he tried out with and what he wants. Good luck to all - it's a roller coaster ride enjoy it because it's over quickly.

Talent is already too watered down!! New teams are at a huge disadvantage. Some old teams are in extreme turmoil!! Should be an interesting tryout season!!!:)

The advantage some new teams may have is people are sick of the turmoil on what are supposed to be the established clubs. The money grab, revolving door of coaches and players is tiring. Maybe someone with a new perspective will get it right.

Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

Spoken like a a Director from a sub par "A" club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

Igloo's coach went or was put on another team - so what
Express coach left or went to another team -so what
Outlaws coach has been the same since they started and not changingd - so what
The point is that the kids at this age make the team and make the coach look and as the kids mature into adults they get better with good coaching.

But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.

Igloo's coach went or was put on another team - so what
Express coach left or went to another team -so what
Outlaws coach has been the same since they started and not changingd - so what
The point is that the kids at this age make the team and make the coach look and as the kids mature into adults they get better with good coaching.

True; however, if I'm a parent with a child on one of those teams, I'm probably not going to bring my kid back. Badgers were well within striking distance at the end of the season. Now they will be middle of the road. Parents are starting to realize the agendas of these teams are not honorable. The coaches are just as bad. People will have different opinions, but I'm going with stability. My son's coach is great. Not a daddy coach. And, more importantly, he's not going anywhere.

Which Club? Totally agree. People are sick of the high priced drama and jerking around 10 year old boys. Consistency is going to be a big factor moving forward. And if people can save a grand or two along the way. All the better. The constant drive for being "the best" will be the downfall of many teams/Clubs. There is a lot to be said for happy players and happy sidelines. My guess is those are the clubs that will make the long haul.

Igloo lost coach, yes, but has another very qualified guy taking over. All of their players will be back trying out and they look to have a lot of other good players coming to tryouts. I wouldn't be worried about Igloo.

Nor would I worry about Express A (formerly Honey Badgers). The also have all of their kids coming back to tryouts and it sounds like the also have a bunch of other kids coming to tryout for the team. Their coaching staff is the same except that crazy guy BM who yells and tries to fight everyone is gone. No real loss, the other guy who was the co-head coach was the talent anyway.

So expect Igloo and Express to both be BETTER this year not worse. I don't know why people are writing that. BUT...... There is only one team that is at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo lost coach, yes, but has another very qualified guy taking over. All of their players will be back trying out and they look to have a lot of other good players coming to tryouts. I wouldn't be worried about Igloo.

Nor would I worry about Express A (formerly Honey Badgers). The also have all of their kids coming back to tryouts and it sounds like the also have a bunch of other kids coming to tryout for the team. Their coaching staff is the same except that crazy guy BM who yells and tries to fight everyone is gone. No real loss, the other guy who was the co-head coach was the talent anyway.
So expect Igloo and Express to both be BETTER this year not worse. I don't know why people are writing that. BUT...... There is only one team that is at the top.

I don't know many people at Igloo, but the one I did hear from said that a bunch of their players are trying out for other clubs. I know several Express guys and all of their kids are trying out for others, hoping to find a better home. The coach was only part of the reason. Two are coming over to my son's team. Before you say that tryouts didn't happen yet, be realistic. You seem to know how the game works. Either way, I'm not concerned with my son's team being the best. But his coach is great and his team was very successful. Most importantly, he loves it and gets better every practice. Good luck to all, whatever you decide.

Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.

Yeah all for the low low price of $3400 and sub par coaching. Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.

When he does its only for 40 minutes. Practice is on field behind his house. Only coaches offensive plays then leaves. My favorite is watching him on his cell phone the wholegame at tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.

When he does its only for 40 minutes. Practice is on field behind his house. Only coaches offensive plays then leaves. My favorite is watching him on his cell phone the wholegame at tournaments.

That's the truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.

$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!

The best thing for parents to do is to take their boys to tryouts, talk to the coaches, and see if the new boys who show up will make the team better. If you play for a solid club and the teams attracting better players it will all work out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.

$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!

Dude, he's still with igloo just coaching an older grade.

What's with all these new teams trying to steal players? If you can't attract kids with your reputation then maybe you are in the wrong business!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's with all these new teams trying to steal players? If you can't attract kids with your reputation then maybe you are in the wrong business!!!

What do you mean by that?

It's the wonderful world of travel lacrosse. Nothing new. Usually the player poaching happens at the tournaments when coaches ask for players names! And it gets better every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the wonderful world of travel lacrosse. Nothing new. Usually the player poaching happens at the tournaments when coaches ask for players names! And it gets better every year.

You can't steal players that want to stay committed.

Wanna bet! Happens all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wanna bet! Happens all the time.

So they are kidnapped?

Where is BM going this year?

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wanna bet! Happens all the time.

So they are kidnapped?

New teams will try to entice coaches to their program by giving them "director" status and a piece of the pie if they bring kids with them. They are all doing it. It's up to the parents to make a decision based on the overall program and its history.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wanna bet! Happens all the time.

So they are kidnapped?

New teams will try to entice coaches to their program by giving them "director" status and a piece of the pie if they bring kids with them. They are all doing it. It's up to the parents to make a decision based on the overall program and its history.

For the clubs and coaches it's a business. The parents buy into the hype and shop their kids around. No one steals them.

It's the current Bluefish Model..what happens to that program when those guys leave Hofstra. What's the sales pitch then? We used to be blah blah...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's the current Bluefish Model..what happens to that program when those guys leave Hofstra. What's the sales pitch then? We used to be blah blah...

I have been speaking with the principals there and they are ALL committed to building their program.

Quick protective comments from the moderator...unusual..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quick protective comments from the moderator...unusual..

I am very impressed by them.. I don't say things that I don't mean!!

New temas means maybe things get watered down, but you know what? Everyone has a place/chance to play. A teams, b teams, c teams. We quickly forget about kids playing a game. Unfortunately its a game wrapped up in a business. Bluefish for example is a new nassau team which is needed i would guess. If parents use logic they need to and ahve a right to ask questions and as paying customers have a right to answers and clubs backing up what they say. I dont know about everyone else but this adds up to a pricey endeavor.

My son is going to play for his town team again. Great group of kids/families, graet coaches. Maybe next year or a couple years he'll want to try out for a travel team. Rught now he is happy and having fun where he is, and has time for 3 other sports, school, video games, volunteering, etc.

A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.

So who is coaching the All Greys?

Kevin Travis. TONS of experience. He is great with the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.

$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!

Actually both original coaches are gone DK and Lizards coach were the assigned coaches at the start. Lizards coach jumped ship early on and DK got pushed out. At years end it was a typical 3 grand bait and switch with zero accountability from AA. Told you getting a Benz but received a Kia for Benz $$$$. New coach doesn't have same pedigree as original staff but price hasn't gotten lower.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.

I have heard this as well. Most Huntington kids leaving their teams to play for Greys. The hope is to make a super PAL team and their high school program stronger.

Much more than Huntington kids will play on All Greys. It will NOT be a Huntington team at all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Much more than Huntington kids will play on All Greys. It will NOT be a Huntington team at all

Correct. I said most not all. If it was all kids than it would be just the PAL team. They will need a few others from outside towns to round out the roster. You think the Huntington High School coach doesn't have the big picture of his future teams in mind.

I'm sure he does. He would be foolish to not carry a few of the better kids from Huntington.

They(All Greys) will get the B Players that can not make top clubs at first. If they do things right they will then start to draw better kids.

Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid

Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.

$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!

Actually both original coaches are gone DK and Lizards coach were the assigned coaches at the start. Lizards coach jumped ship early on and DK got pushed out. At years end it was a typical 3 grand bait and switch with zero accountability from AA. Told you getting a Benz but received a Kia for Benz $$$$. New coach doesn't have same pedigree as original staff but price hasn't gotten lower. [/quote

Right but they ended up 3rd best team in the age group and very close to badgers. Nobody complaining other than you. Don't be angry bc your kid got cut. Btw, it's not 3400.

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

Not sure what your laughing at. Did you see igloos offense last year? Do you know which players are returning to igloo,Outlaws and express? Too many of these teams are cauht up in the hype of apparel and empty promises. Too many coaching changes. The coaching on igloo and Outlaws (Outlaws had good parent coach) was sub par at best.This entire grade is in a major transition right now. If you don't agree, I'm wasting my time here. If ANY of the "A" teams lose 4-5 players, their team will suffer which is why they will all be competitive this year. The only true "A" team in this grade is 91.

Kevin Travis coaching 2023 team? When is the try outs and where? Thanks great

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

All of the "A" teams are losing 4-5 players at a minimum. Clubs had the talent but blew it in their chase for first place. Next year will be a whole new ballgame!

Check your facts DK is gone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.

Never happen. They will get a heavy dose of Huntington and some surrounding areas. Unfortunately for them, the stronger players will continue to gravitate to the stronger clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.

I have heard this as well. Most Huntington kids leaving their teams to play for Greys. The hope is to make a super PAL team and their high school program stronger. [/quote

Thats ok most of the kids if not all didn't get much playing time so they will leave and probably not missed- No big deal - the teams will always loose and add players every year. Good luck to all at tryouts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

[/quote

Guess you don't check ALL results just igloo results - they aren't that good but i will give you getting better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?

Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?

Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest

That's what I'm saying. Not much to brag about.

beat Bethesda blue Maryland and lost to Honeybadgers in OT at Maverick. No one was missing in HB!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?

My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?

Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest

That's what I'm saying. Not much to brag about.

keep telling yourself that express B daddy

Those who want to know who is coaching the team and what location practices are in

Long Island Bengals

Massapequa/Bellmore/Merrick

Director and Head Coach 2023 Boys Team

Occupation

Special Education Teacher in Bellmore-Merrick School District (2005 - Present)
Playing Career

Viking Lacrosse Club
Lacrosse Unlimited Lacrosse Club
Suffolk Lacrosse Club
Stony Brook University 1997-2001
Wantagh High School 1997 (All-County)
Coaching

Bellmore JFK High School Head Coach (2014-Present)
Plainedge High School Assistant Coach/Offfensive Coordinator (2012-2013)
Mepham High School Assistant Coach/Offensive Coordinator (2005-2011)
Dowling College Assistant Coach (2002-2004)
Wantagh Tribe Summer/Winter 2021 Team (2013-2014)
Team 91 Summer Team 10th and 11th Grade Elite Teams (2011-2012)

The problem with so called "elite" teams and why there is so much movement year to year is why would an a or a- player want to play on an "elite" team and have to fight for playing time when they can go to most other teams and have no issues with playing time at all. It's common sense, I don't understand why people can't grasp this concept.

I agree. I think the days of 2-3 elite teams are over. Parents and players are getting smarter. New clubs are forming because people see HOW much money these sub par clubs make. There are sooooo many great coaches NOT at these "elite" programs. 5 years ago if you weren't on an "elite" team, you would go un-noticed. Not the case anymore...STOP wasting your money on apparel and swag. Pay for coaching.

Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.

Especially when a Director is arrogant, is not transparent, can't reach them, etc

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.

I'm willing to do all that in order to have my team hat and car sticker and walk around tournaments like a big shot and brag to my colleagues at work about all the tournaments my kid's team wins.

You guys are out of your mind. It is 4th grade lacrosse!!!

5th grade buddy.

Get it right!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

5th grade buddy.

Get it right!

Technically they are not in 5th grade until September.

Thank you!

Beware of the one off teams. Generally they consist of parents who are disgruntled and motivated to protect #1. In the long run you want to be with a team associated with a solid infrastructure and the ability to attract good players and families. You don't want to be searching for a new team every other year.

The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Beware of the one off teams. Generally they consist of parents who are disgruntled and motivated to protect #1. In the long run you want to be with a team associated with a solid infrastructure and the ability to attract good players and families. You don't want to be searching for a new team every other year.

Obvious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting

Yes there's a change. The coaches didn't get along. BM is out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

Team 1- head coach is gone. Assistant taking over. That's a big change.

For the better. Game changer. That team will have very little if any turnover now

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

Team 1- head coach is gone. Assistant taking over. That's a big change.

They were co- head coaches. Which was not going to work in the long run.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting [/
The coaches didn't get along.

First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the better. Game changer. That team will have very little if any turnover now

We shall see. BM was the reason that team exceeded expectations.

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.

No, I'm just another parent who is tired of the Bull that PB represents. We've got 3 more tryouts with other teams we're looking forward to. Done with this team!

Three more try outs, rather busy this summer? Just to clarify.
21 of the 22 Kids that played last year are registered for tryouts. 50 total now, and should be 60-65 when all said on done. We will field 2 Solid teams at 2023. One High school kid(My son , Warming up goalies). Finished a little early because it was close to 100 degrees and a few kids were not feeling well.
Thanks to all 350 Kids/Parents that showed up for all try outs yesterday. All e mails going out Mon/Tuesday.
PB

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

You're off base a little with those expectations. Two parents, at least, already moving to my sons team. Good players, too. I'm sure there won't be a major exodus, but realistic expectations would be to lose 4-5. My two buddies and a few to follow coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.

No, I'm just another parent who is tired of the Bull that PB represents. We've got 3 more tryouts with other teams we're looking forward to. Done with this team!

Good luck on your new team - as an outlaw parent i am very happy to see you go - your son is always welcome to come and play but parents like you who come on here and bash others need to go away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

I'm a HB parent and the talent and skills are there because of the countless hours that man put in since the beggining. Something tells me if your a parent who thinks otherwise; you're both very ungreatful and probably a kid who wasn't going to make the team this year.

BM leaves and the assistant coach wants to do less but somehow still beat the Bandits? On top of that some talented kids are leaving with BM. Good luck! Sounds like that unsinkable ship....The SS Titanic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

Wow thank goodness my kids doesn't play on the HB with this parent. Amazing that you bash the efforts of a guy who just spent the
Last few years developing those kids into a very good team. I always hear that you practice 3/4 days a week and all winter long yet you still show no respect.

BM was and is a great coach. He is tough, demanding, and fun, and constantly, constantly trying to make the kids better. AJ was and is a great coach. He is tough, demanding, and fun, and constantly, constantly trying to make the kids better. I have no doubt that both BM and AJ, both talented coaches, will further develop their teams and have successful seasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Yeah, they take anybody who tries out. If you currently play for a town PAL team, come on down and try out. Your kid will get on their "A" team and get some more playing time.

There should be a bunch of open spots on this team with the head coach leaving, I assume 4-5 players leave with him and 4-5 leave b/c he is leaving. Should be interesting to have that many open spots on a top team

In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout.

Very confused. Emails are already out and still another weekend of tryouts???

After 1st try out some kids are taken - then after next try out more - same way they have always done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.

I'm a HB parent and the talent and skills are there because of the countless hours that man put in since the beggining. Something tells me if your a parent who thinks otherwise; you're both very ungreatful and probably a kid who wasn't going to make the team this year.

Interesting statements. But if you knew more you'd be able to explain why not a single HB player agreed to go with BM when he was let go. The lies and deceit finally caught up with him. He made many calls to parents and had a parent meeting yet not a single one is following to his new club. That speaks VOLUMES.

So explain that one since you seem to know everything. Clearly there is something very wrong there because many of these families were with that team for multiple years.

How would anyone know who is going to stay and who is leaving until tryouts are over? People have free will and I am sure a couple will leave with or without coaching problems. AJ is a great player but as a coach TBD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout.

1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout. [/quote
1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.

Why is he a tool. Because he is teaching his son to always strive for excellence. Their are many teams out there and doesn't want his son to settle for the first team he made on the first weekend of a month and a half tryout season. Nobody even knows who the coach is for the outlaw black team yet. Not posted anywhere nor was it addressed at the tryout. There are more questions than answers. The coach will have a big impact on how passionate the boy stays and if he continues to understand the game as you put it. Most B teams don't get that quality of a coach and it's usually some college kid trying to make extra money over the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout. [/quote
1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.

Why is he a tool. Because he is teaching his son to always strive for excellence. Their are many teams out there and doesn't want his son to settle for the first team he made on the first weekend of a month and a half tryout season. Nobody even knows who the coach is for the outlaw black team yet. Not posted anywhere nor was it addressed at the tryout. There are more questions than answers. The coach will have a big impact on how passionate the boy stays and if he continues to understand the game as you put it. Most B teams don't get that quality of a coach and it's usually some college kid trying to make extra money over the summer.

I don't think there is anything wrong waiting to try out for other teams to hold their try outs and strive for an A team. Many parents sacrifice for their kid to play travel sports and if they only make a B team they might prefer to put the money into clinics and camps instead. B teams can be great and they can be terrible. If the coach is good, committed, fair and motivating, that is great. However, the kids on the team have to be all in too. Sometimes you'll find the families aren't as committed and kids don't show for practices or games because they play for more than one team, other sports or it's just not the team they want and the motivation is lacking. I've seen it both ways. A teams usually don't struggle with this and I think it is wise for the dad to encourage his son to wait it out, work hard and strive for the best. That said, I don't think anyone should put down a B team at any level just because they are a B team. Not every kid is an A player and there should be teams for all kids to play. The key is to find one that is a good fit and kids and coaches are committed. They are out there and can be worth the time and money .

Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!

That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed.

How about "son would you like to play, have fun, and work on getting better"? Your quest for you son to be awesome like you is only going to hold him back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!

Agreed. Unfortunately most B teams don't get a good or dedicated coach. The directors usually don't even give them the time of day. Read the post here, outlaws had tryouts this weekend and sent emails out telling you have a week to register or lose your spot. nobody has any idea who is coaching their black team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!

Agreed. Unfortunately most B teams don't get a good or dedicated coach. The directors usually don't even give them the time of day. Read the post here, outlaws had tryouts this weekend and sent emails out telling you have a week to register or lose your spot. nobody has any idea who is coaching their black team.

Classic bate and switch. It happens every year.

Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.

I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.

The hard part of figuring out if your better on a clubs B team vs another clubs A team. Is being on Outlaws, express, b team better than Millon and Sharks A team.

I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.

The hard part of figuring out if your better on a clubs B team vs another clubs A team. Is being on Outlaws, express, b team better than Millon and Sharks A team.

I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!

There is only one club with a competitive B team. If you're looking to play in meaningful competive games on a B team then you need to try out for that one. If you're looking for a team that will allow your son a chance to grow and develop as a play, then there are plenty of options. Do your homework first.

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!

It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!

It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.

If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!

It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.

If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?

What team are you referring to?

I get your points on the b teams not being an option for you. We haven't had any experiences good or bad with travel clubs. My son is on his town team. He's having a good time there and learning the game in a "non-hysterical" atmosphere. I thought you were looking at it as I'm too good for a b team mentality when you really don't want to give them a lot of $ for a less than advertised product. I apologize.

Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.

Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!

It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.

If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?

No one was replaced. The A team's roster was just strengthened with more depth. There may be an upgrade to a position at tryouts this year, but then again, maybe not. The program has a history of selecting kids from the B team at any time of the year if they think it will help the A team. This weakens the B team, but they view it as a farm system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!

365Lax is run by MLL, NLL, and D1 St John's players. Compared to any other club, they have the most amount of practices year round for the tuition. Rates are reasonable. They are based out of Bethpage.

1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?

Thank you for letting us know. I will check in to it.

Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?

I am looking into this and I will get back to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?

All Greys is having website issues. I am told that they will be back in full force this evening.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?

That is normal for true blue. Last year my son tried out and I never heard anything back from them when I called or emailed. The only thing I ever heard from them was when they send out a mass emailing saying if you have not heard from them you did not make it. Totally unprofessional.

True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.

PM me your email address and I will give it to them.

The fee's usually are announced at the tryouts. Last year they charged $1350. A pretty good deal. I called one of the directors and this is what he told me...This team will practice in the Fall, play in a Fall tournament, practice indoors and play a winter tournament then get once a week in the spring and 5 tournaments over the Summer. Custom CPR Helmet, Custom Gloves and more are included this year. At this 5th grade level they seem to have a buzz this year..They have someone on staff now to handle all emails and you can reach out to truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

I know they announced at the tryouts that if you made the team you would be contacted. Not sure if they contacted each player that was not selected. I made it and was called. It was a great year and they handled everything pretty well from my point of view. I will def be trying out for JC team again. He was the best I have seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fee's usually are announced at the tryouts. Last year they charged $1350. A pretty good deal. I called one of the directors and this is what he told me...This team will practice in the Fall, play in a Fall tournament, practice indoors and play a winter tournament then get once a week in the spring and 5 tournaments over the Summer. Custom CPR Helmet, Custom Gloves and more are included this year. At this 5th grade level they seem to have a buzz this year..They have someone on staff now to handle all emails and you can reach out to truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

Thank you!!

Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

I am confused are u saying that two kids that played the year before got moved up at tryouts or two kids got moved up during the spring season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?

True Blue should be a great team this year. Some highly talented kids that left last year are coming back this year. The college coach who has this team is the driving force behind this and will make it an elite team. He had the 2017 TB team that has a ton of D1 recruits on it. He plans on taking this team to the end.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Why is the All Greys link totally missing now from BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is the All Greys link totally missing now from BOTC.

Their website is having issues. They will be up soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?

Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?

Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.

Wrong!!!

Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

IIRC, True Blue had a 2023/2024 team this past season? Did they have a 2023 only team also?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

JS = Win at all costs
JC = Great youth lacrosse coach that understands there is more to a kids development then lacrosse practice 4 times a week

True Blue guys are pushing hard the last few days.

Like a Snake oil salesman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

JS = Win at all costs
JC = Great youth lacrosse coach that understands there is more to a ki
ds development then lacrosse practice 4 times a week

You may not like JS style- but there is no denying that he knows how to develop skills and team work, alongside perseverance and dedication. He may not be for all kids, but he knows what he is doing and there is no shortage of kids lining up for a shot at one of his teams. There can be more than one great coach and there should be, so kids can find their right fit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue guys are pushing hard the last few days.

Like a Snake oil salesman

You sound bitter. Wonder why.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?

Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.

Wrong!!!

If the coaching is the greatest on the Island, then why does the team's play not reflect that? They must be advertisers.

Come on angry!! now climb back into your BF or HB hole and be on your way now..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on angry!! now climb back into your BF or HB hole and be on your way now..

Not angry at all, but let's be realistic. They are a decent program. And that's fine. I don't understand why people need to pump them up like they're the second coming.

Is this the same guy as last year? Give it up guy

No one said it was the second coming. The Coach took this team late last year because the other coach decided last minute to take over a team he used to coach. Due to indecision a lot of kids left before they knew he was coming on board. The turnout was low but he worked miracles with some of these kids. A lot of kids that left are now coming back. If you saw the talent on this team 2 years ago your head would spin. Hopefully he gets comparable talent this year because then it will be an elite team. No one said that this True Blue coach walks on water but anyone that knows him or played for him will tell you that he is one [lacrosse] of a coach!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

He is an assistant coach at D2 school how does that make him a highly regarded college coach. You are pumping him up like he's a Duke or Carolina coach, please stop making a mockery out of the youth lacrosse scene. Who are you and what are your credentials to label him as "Highly Regarded" . By who ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.

I also emailed true-blue to inquire about the 2023 team and no response.

Co Head coach. Used to be the assistant when he ncaa assistant coach of the year he got promoted. And yes he is not a d1 coach but I think the guys point is that he is not a parent coach like a lot of programs have. He played D1 but so did a lot of these other coaches but they haven't established themselves as coaches yet.

I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

Totally not true. Half the team left last year even after the coach was named. And most of those who left last year are not coming back this year. Last year was a 3/4 grade team because they didn't have enough kids to make a full grade team. He may be a good coach but what was this teams record last year? Which brackets did they play in? Who did they beat? If your going to pump up the advertising that's ok but be factual. The tryouts will show a lot. Including talent level.

Does anyone have any experience with Outlaws Black? I am assuming some of he kids from last year are returning and someone here have seen them play or knows who's coaching that team.

Thanks in advance.

Keep in mind that kids also attend tryouts as tune ups for other teams. some times parent just want to test the waters. Especially since it was midweek tryout and nothing else going on . Don't read into the numbers even though they will use that to get parents to commit early

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Co Head coach. Used to be the assistant when he ncaa assistant coach of the year he got promoted. And yes he is not a d1 coach but I think the guys point is that he is not a parent coach like a lot of programs have. He played D1 but so did a lot of these other coaches but they haven't established themselves as coaches yet.

Geez you know everything about the guy.

no. They did not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

WhT team was the tryout for?

If you are under the assumption Outlaws "black" is their top team, you should know it is now referred as "select". There were plenty of talented kids there for the 2023 tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are under the assumption Outlaws "black" is their top team, you should know it is now referred as "select". There were plenty of talented kids there for the 2023 tryout.

ohhh stop. The over confidence is killing us.

OK My kid isn't goo enough for the top Express team or Igloo As a nassau county kid, what would be the next teams in this age group to try out for?

Long Island Sharks have a good program . 365 lax and Bengals . There are a lot of smaller teams that do well. Find out who is coaching the teams and start there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island Sharks have a good program . 365 lax and Bengals . There are a lot of smaller teams that do well. Find out who is coaching the teams and start there

Try Bluefish....new but so far the coaches seem to be very good. And Hofstra is certainly convenient.

What's up with all the Igloo kids at Express tryout? Had to be 10 Igloo helmets.

Icon is good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.

Igloo made big changes with its coaching staff so everyone is trying to find seat before the music stops! No one wants to be left having to play on someone's B Team

Interesting. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.

Ok, how's this: the only kid on the team that was any good, took most of their face offs, and SOMETIMES ran as a fogo. Is that more clear? Sorry your best player is leaving.

What club was this tryout for??

Express tryouts were last night

Sorry to stir things up but the kid who took most of the face offs was at football practice that night

Word is a drop off in talent compared to last years tryouts..not a surprise with kids moving around and some of the turmoil there..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.

Ok, how's this: the only kid on the team that was any good, took most of their face offs, and SOMETIMES ran as a fogo. Is that more clear? Sorry your best player is leaving.

Wrong again Maryv

Outlaws top team will be greatly improved from last year.

Legacy is done from last year and they were not even that good. Some people leaving because the coach didn't play to win and did not teach enough it eas more basic for 2nd graders and some are leaving because of the Smithtown parents were obnoxious. One mom even paid here kid to score. Whatever they are a B team at best this year.

Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams

Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams

No such thing as 2 A teams. Always a B team and no matter how Mike C wants to spin it; it's still a B team. Talent was horrible at Express tryouts. B team will be very very weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams

No such thing as 2 A teams. Always a B team and no matter how Mike C wants to spin it; it's still a B team. Talent was horrible at Express tryouts. B team will be very very weak.

Talent was horrible? So your kid sucks or you're just making stuff up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams

Hard to have 2 elite team when you don't have elite players. The tryouts were very soft. Alot of kids with no talent. Express can email all they want about coaches and trainers, they do it all the time but when it's time to deliver, it'll be Mike C running his self promtoted practices of 35 kids who hand him $40 a pop. Don't fall for it the bait and switch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams

Hard to have 2 elite team when you don't have elite players. The tryouts were very soft. Alot of kids with no talent. Express can email all they want about coaches and trainers, they do it all the time but when it's time to deliver, it'll be Mike C running his self promtoted practices of 35 kids who hand him $40 a pop. Don't fall for it the bait and switch.

What is your agenda? You are the same person posting over and over again, trying to sound like different people, about how weak and terrible it was..

Sure the Outlaws team will be much improved. NOT. It will be the same team from two years ago, which was marginally better than last year's team, which was pretty awful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?

Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.

Originally Posted by jackstraw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?

Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.

I heard that you are wrong. lol

Ok.

Originally Posted by jackstraw

Ok.

why so angry?

3 teams in 3 years

Very impressed with bluefish coaches and the structure of the tryouts this morning

same here on the Bfish.

If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility

[quote=Anonymous]Sure the Outlaws team will be much improved. NOT. It will be the same team from two years ago, which was marginally better than last year's team, which was pretty awful. [/quote
Thank god your not coming back next year - its parents such as yourself that take away from the game and experience kids get. Best of luck to you with your new team.

Ok fishbait. Talent level was awful. B level at h..see how long that lasts..you think powers will last with that...

Is this the same org as the li blue sharks? See most of the coaches are the same

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility

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Powers is coaching the 2020 team. Tierney is a director

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this the same org as the li blue sharks? See most of the coaches are the same

No...2 different programs

Originally Posted by jackstraw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?

Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.

STAY AWAY ........ Guy is out of his mind there is a reason he has jumped from club to club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility

I'm doubtful either will be. A lot goes into running a program.

With all of the coaching changes and expansion of teams on the grade level, it looks like one club is going end up with the top two teams. Speaks volumes to the ability to attract and retain both coaches and players alike.

Which club are you referring to that will have two tops teams?

With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!

lol. Me too. That was amazing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!

lol. Me too. That was amazing.

Me three!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!

lol. Me too. That was amazing.

Me three!!!!

Just got done puuting my boy to bed, jumped on BOTC to catch up from a long weekend, saw the statement about PB's 2023 so called elite team and laughed my brains out.

I thought 32 had a good team and a good coach. Why would kids leave that program for him?

Me four. Still chuckling over Outlaws comment.

To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.

32 folded

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.

There are a lot of very good teams, just can't talk about them. I don't even know that I would put Igloo in the conversation even before kids jumped ship. They were competitive, just like Outlaws, but did they win anything?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I think what the poster means is that they may not run a summer program any more. There's a little more to it than just living in Manhasset.

Outlaws #1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.

Is the removal of the prior Assistant coaches in favor of Travis going to make the Outlaws #1??

you guys do realize that you are bickering about 2023 kids?...holy s--t, get a collective life!....take a long look in the mirror and see what your lives have become when you are hammering each other about 5th grade boys.....guy from Subway would be proud of you all..

Can anyone give some insight as to how the Outlaws 2023 team played last year and what's expected out of them this year. How they stack up against legacy as they both have two teams in this age group. I mean honest opinion even if your kid competes against them.

Just a parent looking for some insight into the programs and what team is best for his kid.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys do realize that you are bickering about 2023 kids?...holy s--t, get a collective life!....take a long look in the mirror and see what your lives have become when you are hammering each other about 5th grade boys.....guy from Subway would be proud of you all..

Settle down, Francis...

2nd round of tryouts tomorrow. Going to be a beautiful day. Best of luck to all the boys. I heard results will be posted by weeks end. Anyone know?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares

People who are interested in 2023 lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

32 folded

Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.

I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK

Big showings from the 321 kids at Express and Igloo tryouts

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK[/quote]

Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year...

What team is DK coaching? When are the tryouts?

8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.

Thanks for your concern. The team will be fine with or without the 32 kids. I think I would be worried more about the change in philosophy at Igloo. It went from being all about the kids, 1 team per grade, no parent coaches, etc. to multiple teams per grade, parent coaches, and all about the money. Not to mention the parent politics are running the show.

Stinks - I thought this organization was going to be different...

Every travel lacrosse team is about the money. They are businesses. And business must be good because there's a new start up team announced every other day. Unless a coach is running a team and not charging for his time -- than he's in it for the money too.. Let me know if you find that team with the pro bono coach. they will have one [lacrosse] of a tryout!

The way the Outlaws parent is trying to spin the death of Express and igloo,and the rise of the outlaws; is rediculous. My son has been at both, and the talent level has been great. I Was very impressed with the structure of the igloo tryouts yesterday. Hopefully it will be the same today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.

Thanks for your concern. The team will be fine with or without the 32 kids. I think I would be worried more about the change in philosophy at Igloo. It went from being all about the kids, 1 team per grade, no parent coaches, etc. to multiple teams per grade, parent coaches, and all about the money. Not to mention the parent politics are running the show.

Stinks - I thought this organization was going to be different...

No parent coaching?? The guy who started the club coaches his own son.

Since when is starting and operating a business that provides a quality product people want a bad thing? If the product is poor or over priced, people won't buy it. If people think a program provides a valuable service at a fair price, then they will buy it. Should we expect lacrosse trainers and coaches to do all this for free? I don't think this would attract great training and coaching talent for our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every travel lacrosse team is about the money. They are businesses. And business must be good because there's a new start up team announced every other day. Unless a coach is running a team and not charging for his time -- than he's in it for the money too.. Let me know if you find that team with the pro bono coach. they will have one [lacrosse] of a tryout!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK

Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year... [/quote]

Great guy who brought in 2 kids from his own town that couldn't make a competitive B team in their own grade so they played down a year on 2023 and never came off the field ! Rebut that DK followers and AA allowed it to morph into a disaster rather than pull the plug on DK when sparks started flying. The entire year was marred with DK insanity from running kids until they almost fainted to firing back at parents who had afternoons wasted at meaningless scrimmages and questioned him on less than adequate playing time. The guy is a wacko who should not be coaching youth lacrosse let alone pay Igloo $3K for him or this other 3rd rate HS coach. The whole fish stinks from the head down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK

Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year...

Great guy who brought in 2 kids from his own town that couldn't make a competitive B team in their own grade so they played down a year on 2023 and never came off the field ! Rebut that DK followers and AA allowed it to morph into a disaster rather than pull the plug on DK when sparks started flying. The entire year was marred with DK insanity from running kids until they almost fainted to firing back at parents who had afternoons wasted at meaningless scrimmages and questioned him on less than adequate playing time. The guy is a wacko who should not be coaching youth lacrosse let alone pay Igloo $3K for him or this other 3rd rate HS coach. The whole fish stinks from the head down.[/quote]
So what's the alternative now.... Selhorn???? and a daddy coach???

Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?

yes, and doing very well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?

yes, and doing very well.

How is he doing very well? Recruiting? Evaluating a tryout? He not doing anything.

igloo calls go out yet???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo calls go out yet???

They said they were starting last night but it could take a few days

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo calls go out yet???

They said they were starting last night but it could take a few days

They are all on the field now with the 200+ kids trying out for the 2022/2021 4 teams.

They prob still haven't finalized while waiting for the HB kids to decide on defection...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!

My best recommendation would be to find out who the coaches would be for your son and meet them in-person before committing to a team. Coaching is everything at that level. Don't know much about the coaches at legacy or outlaws, but I hear the force coaches are great.

365Lax is run by MLL, NLL, and D1 St John's players. Compared to any other club, they have the most amount of practices year round for the tuition. Rates are reasonable. They are based out of Bethpage.

Thank you for suggestions!

I got my call!

yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I got my call!

A 10 year old boy should not be up and posting online at 1:30 am. I assume you're 10 by the use of "I". Grossly excited.

I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater

Dint your son make the team but Dint you get cut?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater

Just to be clear, this elation is because your kid made Igloo? Sorry to be the bubble buster, but that's not really an accomplishment, Chief.

Why is there so many posts on Igloo? who cares. Their two coaches from last year aren't even coaching this team. You now have two new unproven assistant coaches this year. The news should really be about teams that have proven coaches who are still with the team from the beginning. I only know of 3 top club teams with great coaches who are continuing with their team: Bandits, True Blue, Legacy
Every other top club has had changes in their coaching staff. A lot of kids have left the other clubs as well. Consistent Coaching is going to be the key factor this year.

lots of new faces on team must be many unhappy people from last year

same assistant coach from last year and he was great. Everyone very happy with him. Majority of last years team was at tryouts and Igloo was their first choice. Unfortunately there was a lot of great talent from other teams so there will be replacements with stronger talent. That's with every team. Otherwise why would Express even have tryouts?

Finally...someone with a sane statement...the purpose of tryouts is to improve the team ...it's the ultate goal of each organization!!the constant team bashing is ridiculous and is usually made by a parent that needs to get outside and practice more with their kid

There will be a lot of new faces on all club teams this year including Legacy and True Blue. theres always players moving around...... team wasn't good, parents not happy, team folded and simply kids being replaced. Just life in travel lacrosse. And I'd be elated too if my son got called and I could end the tryout madness! Who wants to be doing this in September!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is there so many posts on Igloo? who cares. Their two coaches from last year aren't even coaching this team. You now have two new unproven assistant coaches this year. The news should really be about teams that have proven coaches who are still with the team from the beginning. I only know of 3 top club teams with great coaches who are continuing with their team: Bandits, True Blue, Legacy
Every other top club has had changes in their coaching staff. A lot of kids have left the other clubs as well. Consistent Coaching is going to be the key factor this year.

Since when are True Blue and Legacy top clubs? Decent clubs, yes. Top clubs? No

Pat McCabe coaching ICON 2023. That team will be well coached.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pat McCabe coaching ICON 2023. That team will be well coached.

Icon site shows that he is the founder and director. Where does it show he will be coaching 2023?

He has become a [lacrosse]. He'll put his name on a team/camp and stays away. Girls lacrosse is his thing now.

Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?

National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.

After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?

National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.

wrong coach stupid. mcabe is at adelphi. college is not 7th grade world series.

Icon looked solid. Played all b tourneys i think and won big for the most part. per 2 separate parents on the team, one said they should play in an a bracket and challenge themselves instead of rolling lower teams. other parent said they were upset they practiced very little.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?

yes, you just have to wade through verbal sewage to find them.

TRUE BLUE NEWS!!

ONLINE REGISTRATION IS NOW CLOSED. ALL PLAYERS ARE INVITED TO SHOW UP AND REGISTER ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AT THE TRYOUTS. ALL PLAYERS THAT WALK UP TO REGISTER WILL BE ABLE TO PAY WITH CHECK OR CASH. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE THERE.

TRUE BLUE LACROSSE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?

yes, you just have to wade through verbal sewage to find them.

LMAO!

All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number

Don't worry...there won't be any Walkups. Bluefish are taking the few kids you had

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number

Don't worry...there won't be any Walkups. Bluefish are taking the few kids you had

that doesn't bode well for the bluefish if they need to take anyone from the bengals. their skill level was pretty low except for maybe a couple kids. however it was the bengals first year, and i imagine a new startup is always tough in the beginning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?

National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.

wrong coach stupid. mcabe is at adelphi. college is not 7th grade world series.

Oh right the womens title. Very impressive and relevant to 5th grade boys

Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck

Anyone looking for a great coach and a team on it's way up should consider the True Blue tryout this weekend. It should be very competitive with the Massapequa kids returning. The Coach plans to take this team all the way through to HS so you won't have to worry about a coaching carousel like a lot of these other teams.

Anybody could have taken over that AU team and won a national championship. PM coaches every team with ICON he's all over the place. Oh I forget and he's the head coach at AU. Oh and I forgot again he has a full time job. Oh yea and lets not forget all his camps. OH yea let not miss out on box training he does, Oh also he's a dad. This guys all the place.

Express tryouts last night. Any feedback?? I heard that almost all the HB's showed up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck

They will have to merge with someone to survive. I'm not even sure they will have to same amount of teams this year. Can't see any parents going back

PM is a good guy & good coach but he is all over the place & not thinking straight. He doesn't want to loose kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone looking for a great coach and a team on it's way up should consider the True Blue tryout this weekend. It should be very competitive with the Massapequa kids returning. The Coach plans to take this team all the way through to HS so you won't have to worry about a coaching carousel like a lot of these other teams.

Probably have to worry about the parents of the Massapequa kids that are returning causing issues and complaining about the club. Why did they leave in the first place? Always very suspicious when a group of players leaves a club and then comes back. Supposedly the coaching is good but how much coaching can you do when you are coaching a college team at the same time? Only one coach on the sideline the two tournaments I saw them at.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express tryouts last night. Any feedback?? I heard that almost all the HB's showed up.

Saw the same. Even BM's kid was there. That team won't change that much. Will have to see if they can make a good run without him coaching. If his kid is playing you know for sure he'll be involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck

we played them at a tourney at st pauls in garden city in the rain. i just remember one or 2 kids on attack or middie that could handle the ball, and the goalie yelling at the team to help. everyone else just kind of stood around. with that being said, everyone has to start somewhere, and there should be places for kids of all skill level to play. as long as the coaches and organization do the right things along the way. unless the parents on the team have something to say, why make a comment about why parents would send their kids back? if they were happy, while maybe not successful, let them be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck

we played them at a tourney at st pauls in garden city in the rain. i just remember one or 2 kids on attack or middie that could handle the ball, and the goalie yelling at the team to help. everyone else just kind of stood around. with that being said, everyone has to start somewhere, and there should be places for kids of all skill level to play. as long as the coaches and organization do the right things along the way. unless the parents on the team have something to say, why make a comment about why parents would send their kids back? if they were happy, while maybe not successful, let them be.

There are camps and clinics for that. You don't need to be paying $1300 to play in a few town tourneys.

Massapequa kids left because their coach became HC of Hurricanes. They also didn't know at the time that JC from Adelphi would be HC of True Blue. Talent at this age group is getting too watered down so they decided to come back with their coach and build a strong A team. Get on the train before it leaves the station and there are no seats left!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Massapequa kids left because their coach became HC of Hurricanes. They also didn't know at the time that JC from Adelphi would be HC of True Blue. Talent at this age group is getting too watered down so they decided to come back with their coach and build a strong A team. Get on the train before it leaves the station and there are no seats left!

Hurricanes! Yeah, that worked out well for you! So the grass wasn't greener on the other side! Back to True Blue this year and then where to next year when you think you see greener pastures somewhere else? If you've been around the travel scene long enough, you will have seen this kind of group before, never happy and then they turn into a cancer on the sidelines and destroy a good thing. Good luck with this group True Blue!!

Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Are express team 2 results out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.

Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.

Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.

What team is your son on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.

Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.

What team is your son on?

How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater

Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

Your kid must have been cut. Otherwise you would have attached a name. Good luck. I k is my kid had a amazing experience and was taught the game. Much rather be on someone's A team than someone's C

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.

Please tell me that this is just a rumor. Why would a club allow older kids on a younger team? I only see this as possible if the club advertises and plays by the USL guidelines and doesn't play on grade based tournaments. That said- don't call the team 2022 or 2023- call it a U-whatever.

Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.

Please tell me that this is just a rumor. Why would a club allow older kids on a younger team? I only see this as possible if the club advertises and plays by the USL guidelines and doesn't play on grade based tournaments. That said- don't call the team 2022 or 2023- call it a U-whatever.

They may be using the u model, which is actually better that what is going on now in lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.

If he is born after sept 1st that is fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.

If he is born after sept 1st that is fine

Yes, that's fine as long as you're bringing him to a 2022 tryout. Otherwise, he's just a crappy 6th grader that can't cut it playing with kids his own age.

It goes back to the holdback issue. Almost all teams in Maryland and North Carolina are majority hold backs-- like the other poster said-- until US Lacrosse makes changes-- it's more the rule than the exception these days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.

If he is born after sept 1st that is fine

Yes, that's fine as long as you're bringing him to a 2022 tryout. Otherwise, he's just a crappy 6th grader that can't cut it playing with kids his own age.

I think it's ok if the team plays u based tourneys which most are outside ny.

Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater

Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.

Ha! Forfeit 4th grade wins. Can't wait for the espn 30:30 on that one.

Sorry. I forgot they don't teach integrity in Manhasset until 6th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.

There weren't that many

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater

Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams

Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.

Any word on the 2023 Express and True Blue teams?
What are the teams for Express 2023?
Is True Blue having two teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater

Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams

Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.

What team is your son on coward? The question was asked by several people. There are multiple D1 commits. Anyway, this is a 2023 post. JC is coaching this 2023 True Blue "A" team, and from what I saw this A team is going to be very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater

Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams

Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.

What team is your son on coward? The question was asked by several people. There are multiple D1 commits. Anyway, this is a 2023 post. JC is coaching this 2023 True Blue "A" team, and from what I saw this A team is going to be very good.

A team? Lol!!! Not even in top 6 or 7

Last year they couldn't even field a full 4 th grade team. This year they are an "A" team?????? Cmon guy. Get real.

Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.

Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.

Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.

Are we arguing about LI Express here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.

Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.

From speaking with the parents, a lot of the new faces were not cut from other clubs. Most of the top kids were tired of the BS at other clubs, wanted real coaching, or happen to live nearby and were tired of traveling.

Too bad you're afraid to post the team your kid plays on.

Did DK go back to express?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.

Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.

Are we arguing about LI Express here?

True Blue

Ok Lax Guru. what does make an A team at 5th grade level...Lets here from the ever knowing lax daddy..

hear not here..Go back to school with your kid

Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.

Select A??? Why is it select? Just to make it sound better??

They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.

Select A??? Why is it select? Just to make it sound better??

Seems to be the path most clubs are going. everyone using the select title this year

So I guess JC coaching two team he's coaching 4 grade too..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I guess JC coaching two team he's coaching 4 grade too..

nope. coaching 1 team only: 2023 "A"

And Adelphi....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.

Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?

you must care as you are on here...

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

you must care as you are on here...

Again nobody cares about true blue except for 30 people who prob all live two towns apart off the sunrise highway. This nonsense happens every year around tryouts and then you never hear from anyone again because THEY ARE IRRELEVANT.

Look forward to hearing from you again next tryout season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.

Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?

Nobody is writing about your club. You must be lonely, but most likely your kid got cut. Move on, there are a few new clubs left for him to try and get onto.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Quote

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you must care as you are on here...

Again nobody cares about true blue except for 30 people who prob all live two towns apart off the sunrise highway. This nonsense happens every year around tryouts and then you never hear from anyone again because THEY ARE IRRELEVANT.

Look forward to hearing from you again next tryout season.

What kills me is that you are the same person smack talking TB.. Get a life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.

Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?

Nobody is writing about your club. You must be lonely, but most likely your kid got cut. Move on, there are a few new clubs left for him to try and get onto.

Impossible because nobody gets cut from true blue

With 40 kids at tryouts it would make sense. 2 teams of 20. Except when they make calls and find out half the kids already accepted spots on other club teams. Then they will be back to one mediocre team.

Top 5 2023 teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 2023 teams?

. My crystal ball is on the fritz but my guess. 1 Norte Dame 2 Duke. 3 Syracuse 4 Denver 5 Cornell. 2023 is a ling way off but I think this is a good bet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 2023 teams?

. My crystal ball is on the fritz but my guess. 1 Norte Dame 2 Duke. 3 Syracuse 4 Denver 5 Cornell. 2023 is a ling way off but I think this is a good bet.

Well played...

Question does anyone know if there's any other tryouts coming up for fifth grade boys or is tryouts for all teams ...Thanks

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question does anyone know if there's any other tryouts coming up for fifth grade boys or is tryouts for all teams ...Thanks

365Lax tryouts is coming up this Monday.

Bluefish Sept 13

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

What a moron you are. Brilliant analysis of teams that haven't even played together yet. How do you know what players are on all of these teams when the parents that have kids on the teams don't even have full rosters? I think it is well established that the Bandits are the best team in the grade, but to call every other team a "B" team is incredibly unfair to the boys on those teams (Express, Igloo, Outlaws, amongst others) that practice hard all year long and have proven that they are not in the same class as true "B" teams (Hurricanes, Icon, Millon, Empire). Do the rest of us a favor and keep your stupidity to yourself until at least after the fall when these teams have all been established and have a few practices under their belts.

Anyone have an idea on how many new kids they took on Express 1?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.

Will the Bandits be called a 2023 team? I know they aren't U11. Anyone know anything about the new select team out of Rockville Ctr? Shore to Shore?

YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON

Moderator, do you know of any clubs that are still looking to fill a roster for 5th grade?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moderator, do you know of any clubs that are still looking to fill a roster for 5th grade?

Send me a PM and I will help you out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON

Go ahead and tell me what team you "imagine" my son is on. My son loves playing on the team he's on. He plays on a team with a group of great boys who are supported by wonderful parents and who are coached by men who teach them not only the game of lacrosse, but valuable life lessons, something you obviously did not have the benefit of growing up. Please, please make sure to respond because we would all love to hear some additional brilliant insight into the landscape of 5th grade boys lacrosse from you. And please make sure you respond in ALL CAPS again so that you can be sure that whatever your next ludicrous message is gets across loud and clear.

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Outlaws b. Better club. The outlaw b team will beat true blue a in a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

True Blue, especially if Joe Cat is coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.

Go with the proven Club. Outlaws did very well last year and solid coaching. TB was a combined 3/4 C team last year. Not sure how they can say this year they are an A team. Especially if they don't have all their commits yet.

My friends son is on the fourth grade team and Joe is coaching that team too.So I would say he is going to need help from other coaches because he has two team And Coach Ed Cook son is on that team.. So he might be right ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.

That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.

That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!

Way to put grumpy in his place. The other posters are right though. Joe Cat is a fantastic youth lacrosse coach.

My advice to you is go where your son feels like its a better fit they are both good teams. Maybe he knows a kid or two on one of the teams, that always helps. Your absolutely right to bring up that you were coming here for guidance on a 10 year old team. The problem is you came here, where any tool with a computer can type a wiseass reply to you as evidence above.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.

That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!

Way to put grumpy in his place. The other posters are right though. Joe Cat is a fantastic youth lacrosse coach.

Thank you very much. I feel better hearing some positive feedback!

Also take into account location. Depending on where you live, driving to all those practices. If you fell both clubs are similar, keep in mind all the back and forth location wise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

If you live in Massapequa then True Blue is the team for you. They don't want outsiders to ruin their local High School farm system.
Outlaws don't have bias on players from towns outside of their area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My advice to you is go where your son feels like its a better fit they are both good teams. Maybe he knows a kid or two on one of the teams, that always helps. Your absolutely right to bring up that you were coming here for guidance on a 10 year old team. The problem is you came here, where any tool with a computer can type a wiseass reply to you as evidence above.

Lol. It seems that anonymity allows some individuals to lose all social etiquette. Thanks for the sound advice!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also take into account location. Depending on where you live, driving to all those practices. If you fell both clubs are similar, keep in mind all the back and forth location wise

Solid point, thanks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

If you live in Massapequa then True Blue is the team for you. They don't want outsiders to ruin their local High School farm system.
Outlaws don't have bias on players from towns outside of their area.

Gotcha! Lots of variables with this stuff. I do not live in Massapequa, I'm on the North Shore closer to Huntington. Thanks for the insight!

I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Bandits be called a 2023 team? I know they aren't U11. Anyone know anything about the new select team out of Rockville Ctr? Shore to Shore?

I think Shore to Shore is mostly Manhasset 32 with some RVC kids and some other kids sprinkled in...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you

I think you're mistaken about Shore to Shore, Igloo is the team that is mostly Manhasset 32 with a few other kids sprinkled in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you

Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.

And yes it was a combined team last year of third and fourth graders for TrueBlue...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you

Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.

If your talking about the JDRF game. What was the score. Hurricanes did not win that game. they played very good against outlaws in one of the first tournaments of the year. But hurricanes are not a good team. This is evident by them practically folding and starting over.

Actually, I saw that game and was suprised that the Hurricanes beat the Outlaws...

Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?

True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?

True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.

I was told one person is coaching 2023 black and that's the only coach that I have heard about for that team. There has been no change in coaching for that team. Where did you get that information from? I also wanted my son to tryout for True Blue, however after numerous emails and no answer I figured, how difficult can it be to answer a customer without his money and how difficult it will be after you had his money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?

True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.

I was told one person is coaching 2023 black and that's the only coach that I have heard about for that team. There has been no change in coaching for that team. Where did you get that information from? I also wanted my son to tryout for True Blue, however after numerous emails and no answer I figured, how difficult can it be to answer a customer without his money and how difficult it will be after you had his money.

True Blue does not answer emails. There is very little communication from their camp. Their website doesn't even communicate info. It's a good Old boys club who only communicates if you live in Massapequa.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.

Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you

Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.

Sorry true blue - no offense taken at all just stating what actually happened - outlaws didnt loose the game. This is the 1st year for a "B" team that is coached by the director and another - as stated on website and tryouts. Their have been no coaching changes as far as 2023 two teams just someone maybe misreading the site. My son made the "b" team after leaving another program (black-silver-grey-blue whatever dont get so hung up on a name) and we are looking forward to learning and having fun on a b team. I will take this program over true blue and its uncertainty.
Good luck to you

TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....

TB did not beat the Outlaws last year -- they lost. And I don't believe EC is the assistant. You may want to check that fact as well. If a Club is not being upfront and honest now, that's a good indicator on which way to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....

Do you know if there is one or two teams for TB 2023.? Thought I heard them say they were considering having two as the tryouts yielded a lot of talented kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....

No problem here at all- if you think that your son improved last year and the team got better then good luck at tb. You seem to believe in tb and stick up for their coaches and program by bashing another- good luck to you. As far as the outlaws never said how good or great coaches were i guess time will tell. The only hater seems to be you, did your son not make the black (yes B ) team, don't get all the hatred by you, have great winter and see you on the field next year.

So you say it wasn't a combined 3/4 team last year but you ARE saying there were a few "stand out" 3rd graders on the team last year. That would make it a combined team no??. And EC is not the assistant coach. I would be wary of any Club that can't be upfront and honest.

It was a combined team..Whomever said different does not know what they are talking about..EC was not the coach nor is he this year..He coaches a different grade..This year its all 5th. So start the hating with the correct info..

There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.

True Blue is jerking everybody around. There is no communication. At the tryouts Joe Cat told all the parents that they will be calling them and promised two teams. Most parents haven't heard anything and the team left th hanging again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.

True Blue is jerking everybody around. There is no communication. At the tryouts Joe Cat told all the parents that they will be calling them and promised two teams. Most parents haven't heard anything and the team left th hanging again.

I'm new to TB so I can not speak about your past experience with the team. I can say that I was notified by JC last night that my son made the 2023 A team. Today, I had additional questions, left a message and JC called me back with in 10 minutes. I was told that they are putting together a second team. Hope this information helps! Good luck.

If the outlaws are so good ..... How come they lost to South Shore Thunder and barely beat the Wantagh tribe while outlaws had to 11 year olds playing ..

so what is the big fall tournament where all the so called A teams play in?

If your son is on an A team you will know soon enough

365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

A few of the shore to shore kids are 2022 Graduates so check them when you play them. Cheats

Originally Posted by Anonymous

365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

Yeah, I heard that the coaching staff is former St John's alumni and MLL, and NLL. I am bringing my son down for tryouts because I am looking for an alternative to the "Daddy coaches" and want unbiased quality development for my son.

E3 is Sept 14th

No true...some players played up last year. Team will be tough

Isn't shore to shot a new team? How do you know they have 2022 kids on the team?

Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A few of the shore to shore kids are 2022 Graduates so check them when you play them. Cheats

integrity

Long Island bengals on September 20

Originally Posted by Anonymous

365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island bengals on September 20

They offering free tryouts because that's all they are worth

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever

Are you referring to the two Daddy coaches when you say 40 & 50 year olds?
Should have kept KC and DK. The only way this team could win anything is to go bigger with their pics.

True Blue said they are having two teams. I know calls went out for the A-Team for True Blue .Did anybody hear about the B team ...And who is coaching it ...Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever

Hey how Are those drinks going for you. Starting the long weekend early huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue said they are having two teams. I know calls went out for the A-Team for True Blue .Did anybody hear about the B team ...And who is coaching it ...Thanks

There is no B team. It's pty promises again by Joe Cat. Nobody got any calls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

Yeah, I heard that the coaching staff is former St John's alumni and MLL, and NLL. I am bringing my son down for tryouts because I am looking for an alternative to the "Daddy coaches" and want unbiased quality development for my son.

Compare around there are a lot of teams with no daddy coaches they are not the only ones

Thoughts on Bluefish? George Powers coaching?

I was told they are having a B team ,they are working on it and putting it together ...

Amazing how people try to discredit others without any knowledge. Bengals tryouts are not free. They are $50. My son played on the 2021 team last year. 100% of those kids were at tryouts again. Yeah... Really terrible experience. Ask anyone from that team if there kid did not improve. They all did Bc it come down to who is coaching your kid. Not chasing the bumper sticker so dad can feel proud that his son is on the third team of a bigger organization and paying three times the amount. If you have nothing positive to say... Then you are not thinking long enough. Stop the negativity

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how people try to discredit others without any knowledge. Bengals tryouts are not free. They are $50. My son played on the 2021 team last year. 100% of those kids were at tryouts again. Yeah... Really terrible experience. Ask anyone from that team if there kid did not improve. They all did Bc it come down to who is coaching your kid. Not chasing the bumper sticker so dad can feel proud that his son is on the third team of a bigger organization and paying three times the amount. If you have nothing positive to say... Then you are not thinking long enough. Stop the negativity

Did the 2020's that played down all year come back too? Also, you know by now that kids already moved on to other programs. Good luck this year to whatever team your son plays on.

I hope he will be back with the 2021. At last tryout no one was moving on. They all were returning if they made the team. Thanks for your interest

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope he will be back with the 2021. At last tryout no one was moving on. They all were returning if they made the team. Thanks for your interest

so you hope the 2020's will be back with the 2021 team and you see nothing wrong with it? And they is part of the reason the Bengals are a joke.

Like I said, kids are moving on and there wasn't enough kids at tryouts to have anyone worry about "making it". Enjoy another season playing town tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

Thanks great! My son is looking forward to playing with True Blue as well. Good Luck!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

That means you're either lying or an idiot

Truthfully who cares about the kids grade?? I know it seems bad but if the kids are age appropriate given US lacrosse then the grade is irrelevant, it really should be about development and now winning. Its the kids who aren't age appropriate and being held back that are the safety issue, and there's plenty of them to go around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??

LOL! Nobody on earth is jealous of your true blue B invite. Sucker! Please let us all know how that goes. I mean the A team can't compete with B teams which makes the B team glorified PAL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??

LOL! Nobody on earth is jealous of your true blue B invite. Sucker! Please let us all know how that goes. I mean the A team can't compete with B teams which makes the B team glorified PAL

Yeah, well our True Blue B team is better than your sons team any day of the week. At tryouts, they weren't even evaluating. I'm sure the B team can beat the A team!! Plus, we were better last year than the new group of kids they chose.

Does fl$ have a 2023 team? Are they any good? Seems like they are having a very hard time with their younger teams....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does fl$ have a 2023 team? Are they any good? Seems like they are having a very hard time with their younger teams....

Yes...basically a lynbrook pal team. They will not be that good

In the past they have not had strong teams. However fl$'s 2023 team will be very interesting this year. They had huge numbers at their tryouts and only kept 3 kids from last year. That's a lot of upgrades. This will be a team to watch.

They are lying. TB doesnt have enough kids for 2 teams. A lot of the "A" kids they thought they had are going to other clubs. So they are back to digging to the bottom of the barrel. They just haven't told any of the parents yet.

They are calling kids for second team. That is a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are lying. TB doesnt have enough kids for 2 teams. A lot of the "A" kids they thought they had are going to other clubs. So they are back to digging to the bottom of the barrel. They just haven't told any of the parents yet.

Yeah right. That is hilarious. Sounds like typical True Blue... Leave all the kids hanging and scrambling to find other teams to play on.

The previous post sounds more like accuracy that TB actually does have a B team, but they never told any of the parents who didn't make it.

What is all the talk about TB? I don't recall seeing them in any finals, any semi finals, and in any quality tourneys. Lot of meaningless chatter.

You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!

Let's talk about some positive things:
1) there are some new 2023 teams started by between clubs.
2) there are new clubs this year.
3) lacrosse is growing.
4) are any 2023 club teams still holding tryouts?

So a watered down product is good for Lacrosse?

Best post on this thread in a long time.
A lot of player movement among teams and new teams with interesting coaching staffs. Looks like it's gonna be a great season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's talk about some positive things:
1) there are some new 2023 teams started by between clubs.
2) there are new clubs this year.
3) lacrosse is growing.
4) are any 2023 club teams still holding tryouts?

I heard 365Lax is starting a 5th grade team. The owner is the coach, and tryouts are still open. Bluefish has The Hofstra coach as it's Director. Revolution tryouts are coming up as well. Does anyone know of other clubs still holding tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So a watered down product is good for Lacrosse?

God forbid your awesome kid and awesome club have to deal with the lower peasants on the way to your air conditioned tents. More kids want to play let them play. More people want to launch a program that they think wiLloyd be better than current options, that's their business.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!

You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!

You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.

I also agree with more options. I'm tired of owners saying they will get your kid into college, but pay us $2,000 every year until high school ends. Guess what? the money hungry owners are full of sh**. I want my son to be coached correctly with the right skill development and lax IQ. If he makes it to D1 great, otherwise he's going to a great college, he'll be a starter, and then he'll get a great career! You can now find these clubs and coaches for under 2k, and your son will play more lacrosse than the high price bumper sticker,shiny uniform/nice tent club. Do your research on the new 5th grade teams, you'll be amazed at some great coaching that's out there, and it's not Express, 91, or Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!

You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.

I also agree with more options. I'm tired of owners saying they will get your kid into college, but pay us $2,000 every year until high school ends. Guess what? the money hungry owners are full of sh**. I want my son to be coached correctly with the right skill development and lax IQ. If he makes it to D1 great, otherwise he's going to a great college, he'll be a starter, and then he'll get a great career! You can now find these clubs and coaches for under 2k, and your son will play more lacrosse than the high price bumper sticker,shiny uniform/nice tent club. Do your research on the new 5th grade teams, you'll be amazed at some great coaching that's out there, and it's not Express, 91, or Igloo.

I agree. My concerns for my 10 year old are that 1. he enjoys the experience and 2. He has a great coach who helps him develop and expand upon his skills. Other than that I have no expectations for his future....he's ten! I don't even remember what I wanted to do when I was 10 but I know I didn't go to college for it. I did get in on an educational scholarship though. I push the educational aspect and if he wants to play lax or football in college that's a nice bonus.

Sounds like a cheater justifiying the slimy ways of fellow cesspool dwellers. Who taught you guys about morals? It must be a tough life when your only success in life is a picture on a website showing your fantastic tournament win done thru cheating in full view of and with complicity of 10 year olds. Way to go, failure.

wth r u talking about!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like a cheater justifiying the slimy ways of fellow cesspool dwellers. Who taught you guys about morals? It must be a tough life when your only success in life is a picture on a website showing your fantastic tournament win done thru cheating in full view of and with complicity of 10 year olds. Way to go, failure.

Wow. Who invited crazy to the party?

There are a lot of wrongs in lacrosse. Across the board and up and down the east coast. Go to Maryland which is U based and your son will play against 7 th graders. There are plenty of good clubs out there. Many that don't leave LI. Something tells me though your such a bitter person no Club will make you happy. Maybe you should go back to baseball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.

Every single player on Shore to Shore is 2023. The 1 player on Igloo last year that was a 2022 is not on Shore to Shore...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.

Every single player on Shore to Shore is 2023. The 1 player on Igloo last year that was a 2022 is not on Shore to Shore...

Anymore...

Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!

365Lax

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

No he did not. And don't let anyone fool you--- he'll be on the STS sideline -- he's staying with his coach

W

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...

Igloo and Legacy both took a very big step back due to inconsitancies with their coaching. Igloo kids were trying out for every team under the sun to get away and Legacy lost so many kids that they needed to combine thier A and B teams. Both teams had some good showings last season. I don't think they won anything, that I can recall, but that's not necessarily the metric of quality. At least it's not the only one. They will still be middle of the pack, though.

Lol. That's funny

PW dad here. I thought team 32 was one of the best 2023 teams anywhere. They couldn't beat the Bandits, but they almost beat the HB's and owned Igloo. Aren't the 32 kids that did not go to igloo going to STS? 32 is just a town team now. The politics were supposedly crazy. Town elite travel teams are quickly fading. The older the kids get, and the closer they get to HS, the more important it is to get your A player kid on a travel squad. If you play for Express, for example, you will be seen by the Chaminade, Kellenberg and St Ant.'s coaches. If you play for fl$, then.....?

Amen. MANHASSETT = TOOLBAGS

Team 32 was a very good team. It's a shame to see that team breakup. They gave HBs a good run for their money and had excellent games with Igloo ( they won some and lost some -- youth lax at its best). It will be an interesting year to see how all the teams recover from the drama. No one will know for sure until the fall tourneys start. Only sure bet is the Bandits will stay on top.

Finally a truthful statement

PW Dad: Igloo Dad here.

Almost?? They lost by 3 goals. Badgers got off to a slow start that game and 32 couldn't keep up when HB's got in gear. Another half and 32 loses by 7/8 goals. Manhassett is overrated. Dad's are full of themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...

Unheard of everyone knows Santa Clause and his little elf's ......... unheard of Your mean

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...

SH is far from unheard of. Shows how little you know.

Someone's son did not make the team

"PAL Quality" - now there's a new one... u a-hole

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PW Dad: Igloo Dad here.

Almost?? They lost by 3 goals. Badgers got off to a slow start that game and 32 couldn't keep up when HB's got in gear. Another half and 32 loses by 7/8 goals. Manhassett is overrated. Dad's are full of themselves.

Play another half?? Overrated?? What the heck are you talking about. Certainly not 9yr old lax

Does anyone know If True Blue is having two teams this year and who is coaching each team.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know If True Blue is having two teams this year and who is coaching each team.....

Coach Cat. is coaching a 2023 team. I'm not sure if there are two teams though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!

365Lax

They're usually decent but sometimes have numbers issues with their teams when it comes to tournaments.

True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

I will ask a few kids in town if they are interested.
Who is the coach going to be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

A couple of Middies short? Are you kidding me? You can't run a team on minimum of 16 players and borrow a few from the other team for a tourney? I wish teams would stop the madness with trying to money grab and play with who they have!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

A couple of Middies short? Are you kidding me? You can't run a team on minimum of 16 players and borrow a few from the other team for a tourney? I wish teams would stop the madness with trying to money grab and play with who they have!!

Uuuummmm, no. Actually, you can't grab a couple of kids from the other team for tournaments. That would be considered cheating. I'd rather they go the money grab route. It's more honest

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

Most of those kids have been waiting for a response from true blue about filling up the rest of the B team, but no responce, they only had 13 and i know that at least 4 have moved on, they had all defence and attack, no middies. so they are at least down to 9 from the original B team unless they found some more

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of those kids have been waiting for a response from true blue about filling up the rest of the B team, but no responce, they only had 13 and i know that at least 4 have moved on, they had all defence and attack, no middies. so they are at least down to 9 from the original B team unless they found some more

True Blue handled this without class. Joe Cat said to the parents at tryout that he was taking our returning players by having his assistant coach the 2nd team. Turns out far from the truth. Then they send out an email telling the parents a week later that their kid didn't make the team. Then they call and tell the parent that they want your kid.
There's a reason why the kids moved on and will not come back.
Loyalty works both ways. You're never getting our money again.

Hows that B team working out, have you heard anything yetbfrom true blue, no communication, i am taking my son elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.

How's that working out for you?

It faded because one of the dad/coaches needed to have MORE. More playing time for his lil player, more credit, more, more, more, But I'm glad he's gone and am looking forward to s2s

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--

extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.

not when it affects the line up--- pay for play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--

extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not when it affects the line up--- pay for play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--

extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.

It called a BRIBE !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not when it affects the line up--- pay for play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL

what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.

Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--

extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.

What club is doing this?
I know BM used to do it on Express. Cash only, no checks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

I'm happy that my son is going twice per week. So is he!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

It definitely seems like teams are getting started earlier. 91 is going full force. And I hear legacy and Empire are too. Should be a competitive fall season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

It definitely seems like teams are getting started earlier. 91 is going full force. And I hear legacy and Empire are too. Should be a competitive fall season.

Practice makes perfect....the saying goes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3

Lots of research against early specialization. That's fine for an in season schedule. But to have elementary school kids do that year round is essentially precluding them from other sports. Yes it's happening in other sports like soccer but it's not good for those kids either. I have 2 in high school and two younger ones. The club stuff and intense commitment is coming earlier and earlier. Very few kids benefit from that in the long run but it's a great way to create super teams in youth lax. I see some kids in high school viewing the game almost like a job rather than a passion. And those kids didn't start the club circuit until 5th/6th. I just think it's too much too soon. Maybe I'm the minority.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.

When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3

Lots of research against early specialization. That's fine for an in season schedule. But to have elementary school kids do that year round is essentially precluding them from other sports. Yes it's happening in other sports like soccer but it's not good for those kids either. I have 2 in high school and two younger ones. The club stuff and intense commitment is coming earlier and earlier. Very few kids benefit from that in the long run but it's a great way to create super teams in youth lax. I see some kids in high school viewing the game almost like a job rather than a passion. And those kids didn't start the club circuit until 5th/6th. I just think it's too much too soon. Maybe I'm the minority.

My son plays football, basketball and lax. We are also avid skiers. Things get busy, but we make it work and he enjoys all of his activities. With that being said, travel teams are tournament teams. Tournaments are played to win. If a team wants to be the best team (the goal of every team), they will be judged by tournament and head to head wins. These wins only come via practice. The more tournaments a team wins, the more kids will want to play for that team, the better the team gets.

What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

Outlaws had 1 practice. New head coach wasn't there and PB came late. Not exactly a ideal start.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?

From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.

Outlaws had 1 practice. New head coach wasn't there and PB came late. Not exactly a ideal start.

Unless you are new and didn't know, then Get used to it!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Invite only, top secret.

I'm amazed at the posts stating that winning travel tournaments is the #1 goal of some of these top clubs and their parents.
Not what 5th grade travel lacrosse is supposed to be about.
Development, life skills and a positive experience is what is supposed to be gained. Not only wins.
The win at all cost attitude is ruining many kids, their parents relationship with those kids and our sport.

Hop, so true and so sad. Too many parents are using the club their kids play on and how well they do as a way of keeping score. We actually had dads last year bet on whose kid scored more goals in a tournament, same team.. and told their kids they were betting. Could have been "a sign of the apocalypse" story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Old screamer from igloo is the coach and the 32 kids that did not go Igloo. Throw in a few HB's and some Rock Ctr kids and you have a wonderful sausage of a team.

No HBs went to STS and only a handful of 32 kids went.

Will they challenge the Banditos? Can they keep up? Is that the idea?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No HBs went to STS and only a handful of 32 kids went.

Right. Only a handful of 32 kids because Igloo took 10 of them. 32 only had 15 kids last year. I think your wrong on the HB post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Old screamer from igloo is the coach and the 32 kids that did not go Igloo. Throw in a few HB's and some Rock Ctr kids and you have a wonderful sausage of a team.

Yep, DK is the only lax coach to ever yell at a kid for screwing up a play. Igloo parents are so sensitive, can't wait to see PS and SH throw a bouquet of roses at the first kid who makes a mistake. You want to compete with the Bandits and Express but you expect your coach to carry himself like a nursery school teacher. Good luck. You got what you wanted, DK is gone. Leave the man be and worry about your own team. I've got a feeling you'll find plenty to complain about under the new regime.

I hear express has two a teams in this age group

Who's doing what tournaments this fall???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hear express has two a teams in this age group

You hear that or you took a 5 second look at their website to fine that out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hear express has two a teams in this age group

Three actually. 2 a teams

Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.

does anyone know what team 91 national is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.

There are three express team in bracket, but express haugen is in 2022. Are they playing up? In 2023 there is Chaney, chaney 2 and white. Are one of those Haugens team going under a different name to play in both brackets? 2022 is playing later in the day. Don't see express having 4 2023 teams. Looks like a competitive bracket. Not sure of 91 warriors, legacy, express white doing much. Should come down to outlaws, igloo and one of the chaneys (if they are Haugens team/old honey badgers)

That is not correct I know 2 HBs that went

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not correct I know 2 HBs that went

What is not correct? Whom are you answering too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

does anyone know what team 91 national is?

91 Tri State

I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.

There are three express team in bracket, but express haugen is in 2022. Are they playing up? In 2023 there is Chaney, chaney 2 and white. Are one of those Haugens team going under a different name to play in both brackets? 2022 is playing later in the day. Don't see express having 4 2023 teams. Looks like a competitive bracket. Not sure of 91 warriors, legacy, express white doing much. Should come down to outlaws, igloo and one of the chaneys (if they are Haugens team/old honey badgers)

Where did you see a schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?

Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.

A lot of express teams. Maybe a mistake. No way they have 4 right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?

Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.

Could it be they swapped 2023 Haugen and 2022 Channy in error??? Where's the schedule posted?

There is only one Channy 2023 team and one Channy 2022 team. I smell a scam.

Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time

The 2022 bracket also has two chaneys plus the haugen and a lynott. So that's 7 express teams between 2022 and 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time

Look through the age groups. There are like 57 Express teams playing. I'm calling [lacrosse] already. Back of the Cage, after last year, aren't you the tourney police? Any comment from Legacy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time

who doesnt

2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022

Right, Soooooo why do both divisions have a Channy 2 team? What team is that? No such team is listed on their website. Assuming it's either 22 playing down in 2023 and the 2023 playing up in 2022? Explain how that works please...

Well then who is team channy 2 in 2022?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022

There are two Chaney teams in 2023 bracket and a white. Then what makes up the two chaneys. Are they splitting the Chaney team for tournament or as in original question, is Haugens team going under the name Chaney for 2023 bracket and haugen for 2022 bracket? Simple question seems very hard to explain.

Where is this schedule you are looking at????

Originally Posted by poppa17

Where is this schedule you are looking at????

Either way, Express is cheating and Legacy seems to be fine with it. Since you can't have kids on the roster of multiple teams, and they definitely don't have that many teams, they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Legacy is letting them do it too which is just as bad. That program is really falling hard. First tourney of the year and this is how both clubs want to start? Disgraceful by both of them.

Where do you find the schedule?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by poppa17

Where is this schedule you are looking at????

Either way, Express is cheating and Legacy seems to be fine with it. Since you can't have kids on the roster of multiple teams, and they definitely don't have that many teams, they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Legacy is letting them do it too which is just as bad. That program is really falling hard. First tourney of the year and this is how both clubs want to start? Disgraceful by both of them.

Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.

This is the most irrelevant post I've read in a while. Are you that detached from the ideals that sports in stills on children?? "They're only 10" is the precise reason that these practices should be thwarted. You don't think that people will be talking about express cheating? You don't think the 10 year olds will know? You, pal, are the one that needs an attitude check.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.

Your like Lacrosse Seinfeld. You post about nothing. This is a forum. The point is to have a discussion. It's not a 10 year old forum, thus the reason, Jerry, that you even come on here and read and post. That's for your insightful participation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.

This is the most irrelevant post I've read in a while. Are you that detached from the ideals that sports in stills on children?? "They're only 10" is the precise reason that these practices should be thwarted. You don't think that people will be talking about express cheating? You don't think the 10 year olds will know? You, pal, are the one that needs an attitude check.

As an outsider reading these texts, I think it's more about age appropriate kids getting hurt by older kids than having an older kid help win your Express game

Express is not cheating . One of the teams is Express North coming from Westchester .

No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.

NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.

That is the dumbest justification ever posted. In sports at this age skill level is a major difference from year to year. Kids older at this age are usually faster and stronger from one year to the next. If my 10 year old would play with the 9 year olds he could physically hurt most of them and run circles around most.

But that is not the topics of discussion. The question is what teams are express entering into the tournament. Their website one set of teams and they registered a different set for tournament.

ok, yes, there are some valid issues with people questioning what team is what, etc. and there is already a lot of angst and vitriol flowing on the boards at all the different ages, about this and upcoming tournaments. it's the first tourney, lets see how it plays out with the teams. let them play and compete and have fun. stop starting fights for your kids. let them discover their worlds. don't salt the earth for them.

as far as everyone's express questions go, i guess we'll see with our own eyes on monday what the deal is. focus your attenion today on work, kids, and real life issues. [lacrosse], go work on this weekends fantasy roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.

Sounds like your son is playing down. He must be so bad that he is disgraced by kids his own age.

Express North has nothing to do with this conversation. We're discussing the Channy 2 team. It doesn't exist except in this tourney. No kid deserves to be cheated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.

its a huge difference for some.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.

people complained. No one listened. A kid will have to get seriously injured first unfortunately. I know 3 kids told they shouldn't play football till high school or ever based on injury this year 10 and 11's due to injury. Some kids are two helmet size difference. Its irresponsible of the leagues to allow it.

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.

SAL has hurt quite a few kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?

Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.

It would be foolish to have the 5th grade boys play all morning and them put some of them to play against 6th graders in the afternoon after playing 3 am games. Asking for trouble/injuries. I would be surprised if the Express Parents let that happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?

Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.

Lol they do it all the time. The exception is the honey badgers usual jump to south shore thunder not Chaney 2.
It would be foolish to have the 5th grade boys play all morning and them put some of them to play against 6th graders in the afternoon after playing 3 am games. Asking for trouble/injuries. I would be surprised if the Express Parents let that happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

no one is stacking a team. Dont get your panties in a wod. People are just stirring the pot.

If you check out Tourney Machine in 2022 there are 4 Express teams registered: LI Express Channy, LI Express Channy 2, LI Express Haugen (2023 coach) and LI Express Lynott. In 2023 there is LI Express Channy, LI Express Channy 2, LI Express White (and also Express North). If Haugens team is in 6th grade bracket - how is it possible for Express to have 3 additional teams in 2023 so a total of 4 teams when there were only about 60-70 kids at tryouts! Interesting! Sounds like a lot of "guest appearances" on Monday. Do they really have THAT many extra helmets!

I guess those 3- 30 min running clock games are going to be an exhausting day. Drama ....

Why do you care what express is doing? Are you sure they're all LI teams, Express has teams in Westchester and NYC. Just have fun and enjoy the tournament,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you care what express is doing? Are you sure they're all LI teams, Express has teams in Westchester and NYC. Just have fun and enjoy the tournament,

Yes, I'm sure. Express North is listed as Express North. I care because my son is playing in a tournament. I care because when tournaments are run, there should be a level playing field. I care because if a team just materializes out of thin air, it's clear that no one is making certain that the players are cleared to play in that age group. I care because it's BLATANT cheating and irresponsible on behalf of the event organizers. I care because last time a team just came about like this, two players on my sons team got leveled by a bigger kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

What does Haugen playing his team up have to do with any of this? I'm not concerned with existing teams playing up. My concern is with unregulated, made up teams playing instead. I'd be a [lacrosse] of a lot happier with my guy playing the Honey Badgers. At least I would know that they are a legitimate team. Channy 2 is made up of who knows what.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

Your missing the point. The discussion is not haugen playing up. That is excellent and a good choice. The question are who is Channy and Channy 2. Express at this age only had one Channy team. Is that a team playing up, down Newley formed, formed for the tournament or Haugens team going at 2023 and 2022 braket. Are kids in Channy and Channy 2 going to be interchanged, a problem that was rampant last year. Teams moved kids around based on who they were playing and wether they made the finals or not. Nobody cares that haugen is playing up.

Express lists 3 2023 teams. If 1 is playing up that leaves 2 and the north team. So they very easily could have 3 in the same bracket. Now if one is up and they list 4 at 23 then I could see that being an issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.

What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.

Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.

Your missing the point. The discussion is not haugen playing up. That is excellent and a good choice. The question are who is Channy and Channy 2. Express at this age only had one Channy team. Is that a team playing up, down Newley formed, formed for the tournament or Haugens team going at 2023 and 2022 braket. Are kids in Channy and Channy 2 going to be interchanged, a problem that was rampant last year. Teams moved kids around based on who they were playing and wether they made the finals or not. Nobody cares that haugen is playing up.

The point is don't be consumed with trying to win, just challenged the team to get better. The express is a large club with many teams, if the boys are grade appropriate who cares who's on what team. The point about Haugen is that he is willing to take his team into a bracket and possibly lose every game to get better. Don't concern yourself or measure the boys success based on winning at this age. Just find great teams to play, you'll just exhaust yourself complaining throughout the years.

Some people just love hearing themselves talk, unreal..,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express lists 3 2023 teams. If 1 is playing up that leaves 2 and the north team. So they very easily could have 3 in the same bracket. Now if one is up and they list 4 at 23 then I could see that being an issue.

That is exactly the issue. 1 is up and 4 at 23

Express (Long Island) has four teams at the 2023 Level. Haugen's is playing up in the 2022 bracket. There are two Channy Teams due to overwhelming try-out numbers this year, and there is a team under Coach White. The third team in the bracket is Express North from Westchester. Whites team is not in this tournament.

I stand corrected, White's team is in this tournament, so I guess you can fault the Express for sending four teams to play in the tournament. I'm not sure why?, it's just a larger organization.

Complain as you must, but just let the boys play!

Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.

I do believe that this is false information.

Who cares if it is a money grab. They obviously had enough people sign their kids up. Maybe that is bad parenting. Maybe their kids just want to play and improve and aren't as concerned about winning. As for Express maybe they are looking to take the best that signed up and create a strong team and weed the rest out.

Wow Express 2023 teams getting crushed today .... Maybe the tide is changing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.

Express split their squads to get their boys more runs to see what they have!

Guess they have to re think how they teamed boys
They are getting crushed

Whites team is newly formed and as of last week had no goalie. Not sure those kids had a shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whites team is newly formed and as of last week had no goalie. Not sure those kids had a shot.

When you have three teams at 2023, you lose that as an excuse.

So do you really see Express changing it for the next tournament? If not they will continue to get beat badly.

It's 10 year old lacrosse. Express had 4 2023 teams. Three from LI, one from Westchester. Igloo played lights out. Legacy and Outlaws are good teams.

Their was only one bracket today. The good town teams would have given Igloo, Outlaws and Legacy a great run today.

Lol. Right. Which town teams is that exactly?

How did 91 Warriors play today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91 Warriors play today?

Crushed them (no pun intended)

Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.

Igloo is probably top 5 because they went undefeated in the Columbus Day invitational and beat every team by 7 or more

Igloo crushed 91 warriors 13-3 and they went 2-1. 4th place

Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is probably top 5 because they went undefeated in the Columbus Day invitational and beat every team by 7 or more

Top 5 what???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.

or maybe there are a lot of kids out there that want to play. kids have to play somewhere, so what if express wants to have multiple "developmental" teams? just tell the kids and their parents where you would approve of them playing on another organizations team. or just tell them they can't play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope

My take from yesterday is this: it was a beautiful day! Igloo is greatly improved. They were outstanding and dominated at every position. There was no reason for the Badgers to avoid them. Outlaws and Warriors looked about even, though they didn't play. They're a coin flip. Legacy took a pretty big step back from last year. They will have to figure some things out. The Honey Badgers are the only competitive Express team. Channy, Channy 2, and White all have a lot of work to do.

It's the first tourney and means very little though. See everyone Saturday for round 2!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.

They proved that they are not that good. Same kids but very different team from last year. LOL Funny seeing BM quietly on the sideline watching his team get smoked.

Spot on

Will the Badgers show up to play the Bandits this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will the Badgers show up to play the Bandits this weekend?

doubtful

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope

From what I saw yesterday, no town team even scores on them. They were very, very good. To the poster that said they are a top 5 team, I think that's an understatement. If they can play like that on a consistent basis, they will be in the #2 or #3 spot of the 2023 teams by the summer season (if they're not already). I wish HB played in their own division yesterday, because they would have had their hands full. But without a B division, I kind of understand. Outlaws and Warriors were not close to Igloo yesterday and Legacy and Express were well below both of them. I know that it's about the kids' development and not about wins, but it was good to see some of the better local teams in the same tourney. If that can happen more often it will make for a very entertaining season.

Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.

Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.

It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.

Based on your spelling you obviously did not go to Chaminade or St. Anthonys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.

They proved that they are not that good. Same kids but very different team from last year. LOL Funny seeing BM quietly on the sideline watching his team get smoked.

Thought it was funny as well but parents on that team will not give the new coach too much rope before they demand BM be back on the sidelines. It was pretty obvious that the team is not the same since his departure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.

"Almost" the whole roster is not the same as the whole roster. And "almost" from one or two strong towns is much different than a single town team. They are a very good team, but they are very far from being a town team.

Whew. Thanks for explaining "almost" to all of us, Captain quotation mark. Before Manhasset 32 broke into Igloo and StoS they would beat most travel teams. So it can be done.

We agree Igloo is almost exclusively from two towns. And yes, two is more than one. Maybe you can help us define "very good" team next? Or maybe define "much different"? Enlighten us.

Back to the original point --- where is Manhasset 32 today ?

Manhasset 32 split up with several of the boys and a coach going to Igloo and the other boys and coaches going to S2S

Why? you ask, the coaches couldn't agree and get along. That toxic atmosphere will find its way to the parents of Igloo who were lied to about the make up of the coaching staff at tryouts

Apparently you have a different grudge not related to original discussion which was town teams trying to compete against travel club teams. Point being it works only to a certain level and for so long before the whole town thing falls apart.

Who's playing Halloween havoc?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.

Not True:

Few Attack from West Islip
Few Mids from Bellmore
Few D from Huntington

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.

It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.

This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.

It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.

This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.

Sorry, but kids go to these schools for the athletics. They attract top athlete. They should never lose to a town team period. It is an embarrassment that has been happening more frequently due to the presence of some outstanding local programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whew. Thanks for explaining "almost" to all of us, Captain quotation mark. Before Manhasset 32 broke into Igloo and StoS they would beat most travel teams. So it can be done.

We agree Igloo is almost exclusively from two towns. And yes, two is more than one. Maybe you can help us define "very good" team next? Or maybe define "much different"? Enlighten us.

No problem. I assumed that since your original post was so stupid and incorrect that you were an idiot. That's why I used the parenthesis, you see. I wanted to highlight or emphasize the important words/concepts to make it easier for you to understand. Hope it helped. Also, a team made up of Huntington, Manhasett, Syosett, West Islip, Bellmore, etc... Is exactly like every other team. A travel club team that resembles a town team in no way whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.

It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.

This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.

Sorry, but kids go to these schools for the athletics. They attract top athlete. They should never lose to a town team period. It is an embarrassment that has been happening more frequently due to the presence of some outstanding local programs.

Sure, some go there for athletics, but clearly not enough of the top players go there to ensure dominance over good public HSs. And the barriers described above are the main reason why. Those barriers mostly don't exist in the travel vs town team metric.

Look at it this way. Very few of the best 100 or so players in 6th grade chose a town team in the summer over a travel team. But many of the best 100 or so 11th and 12th graders choose their local HS over a parochial school. This is why the analogy fails, and why town teams mostly can't compete with the best travel teams, but it should surprise no one that the top publics can often beat top parochial schools.

You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??

Chaminade yes. St Anthony's no! St anthony's is not even close to being on par with the top public schools

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??

Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??

Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?

Oh yeah. What school is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??

Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?

Oh yeah. What school is that?

Well there are a few: maybe more
Garden City
Manhasset
Smithtown East

Dude. Pro tip for you. When calling someone else an idiot please be sure to understand the difference between quotation marks and a parenthetical. Otherwise, you might look like a total fool. But thanks for the entertainment value and the zero credibility you add to the conversation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude. Pro tip for you. When calling someone else an idiot please be sure to understand the difference between quotation marks and a parenthetical. Otherwise, you might look like a total fool. But thanks for the entertainment value and the zero credibility you add to the conversation.

I guess that's what you have to resort to after someone proves you wrong! Lol!

I don't think it matters. Point being. Great athletes staying within the public school system. No reason to go to Catholic school with the exception of the religious aspect. I agree completely with that post.

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

How many Express teams in the bracket? Also, what is the over/under on the number of goals scored against Bandits? 3 games == 6?

Looks like Bandits are going to play the Warriors?!' Really? Amazing what they will do to one of their own for the free tshirt and bragging rights. Based on teams in that bracket Bandits should be playing up so they can have competitive games instead of wasting everyone else's time and money.

Bandits haven't lost a game in two years and almost always play up think they have a plan. People it's FALL ball most boys are playing soccer football pumpkin picking etc. 5th grade!!!!! Analyzing 5th grade fall tournaments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits haven't lost a game in two years and almost always play up think they have a plan. People it's FALL ball most boys are playing soccer football pumpkin picking etc. 5th grade!!!!! Analyzing 5th grade fall tournaments

Not the Bandits....they are all lacrosse all the time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many Express teams in the bracket? Also, what is the over/under on the number of goals scored against Bandits? 3 games == 6?

I'll take the under

A page back everyone said the HB should not play up and here the Bandits should it's the first tournament of the fall Also doubt the bandits care about a tee shirt as implied earlier (sure their drawers are full) it's a fall tournament people enjoy it

When your the Bandits you know exactly what you have. No team in the 2023 bracket has beaten them yet. Why take a fall tourny to beat up on your fellow brethren and obviously weaker teams that will now only dread the tournament. Tournaments should be about evenly matched competitive games-- so players can develop and have fun. There is no fun in losing games by 15-20 goals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

How do you see the wolfpack doing against that bracket? Competitive? Run away with it?

I'd be surprised if anyone scores on Bandits but agree they should absolutely play in the 2022 in which they would likely win as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

Playing A shows they are a class act.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

Playing A shows they are a class act.

Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

They'll beat a lot of A's.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

Playing A shows they are a class act.

Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

Playing A shows they are a class act.

Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.

Like United!! Plz stop. Igloo is a good B team. Warriors are a developmental team.

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.

You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.

Playing A shows they are a class act.

Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.

Like United!! Plz stop. Igloo is a good B team. Warriors are a developmental team.

Lol! This is most inaccurate and senseless statement on this entire website. You're a fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

A 2024 team is making a 2023 thread. Wolfpack in the mix. Gotta love it.

Really moron, "gotta love it" who cares if the wolfpack is playing up. Who are they playing? If the beat igloo,bandits and badgers then post something. IDIOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 2024 team is making a 2023 thread. Wolfpack in the mix. Gotta love it.

Wolfpack isn't playing anyone. SYAG is a horrible town team. I saw Express White on Monday. They are the 4th Express team and won't win a game this season. Greenwich is a 4th/5th Town team. When your Pack plays decent B teams they get crushed. Go away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Bandits would beat Smash, jerkoff. What team does your kid sit on the bench for?

Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy

Sure you are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

hey, wait a minute, those are same proportions as Bruce, er, Cait Jenner...

tough guy.. 6'4" 235.. who cares. big loser

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy

I'm 6'6" 255. Why don't you come looking for me and call me little man to my face, moron. Online tough guy. See, I can do that too. Beat it, PackRat. This is a 2023 forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

And 100% accurate.

hey, maybe want to push yourself away from the "all you can eat' buffet tough guy? or stop eating everyday at the Mastic Beach Diner

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.

Whooooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaaares?????????????? Is your son on the team? Didn't make the team? It really doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy

I'm 6'6" 255. Why don't you come looking for me and call me little man to my face, moron. Online tough guy. See, I can do that too. Beat it, PackRat. This is a 2023 forum.

You're both morons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.

Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.

Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental

Lol! you're right they can play and get crushed by top teams and compete with most B/C teams. you warrior parents love to talk in fall (see thread last year) and then silence come spring /summer when reality sets in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.

United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!

Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.

What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.

Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental

Lol! you're right they can play and get crushed by top teams and compete with most B/C teams. you warrior parents love to talk in fall (see thread last year) and then silence come spring /summer when reality sets in.

Stupid moron!

Posting it on here since it was the 2023 bracket. I've always stayed out of the
91 vs other teams back and forth. Mainly because I've never really had any direct interaction with them, other than some normal kids/parents on my sons town team. Today my sons team met the Wolfpack. Now I know everything people have been saying on here is true. And by the way wolf mommy, when you say "we own that goalie", do you realize you are not playing? And that said goalies family might be standing next to you which is why we had to say something to make you look stupid? Pathetic.

Why is it that these Long Island lacrosse parents have NO CLASS? Longboard parents on 2024 are same way. Really sad for the sport how emotional they get. Even saw a Longboard parent berating his son in the bushes today. Smh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is it that these Long Island lacrosse parents have NO CLASS? Longboard parents on 2024 are same way. Really sad for the sport how emotional they get. Even saw a Longboard parent berating his son in the bushes today. Smh

Yes but remember there are those parents everywhere, not just LI, in all sports.

You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.

Aren't we all crazy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.

That was just the most obnoxious case. There was more. But I wholeheartedly agree. Pretty much all teams have them. Even if that wasn't my son in goal I'd still be disgusted by it.

On a different topic, what teams are doing Blatant?

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

HAHAHA. Go away

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Outlaws would beat both of them and it wouldn't be close. The difference between A and B divisions is astronomical. Please leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread

Well the Pack are 2023 for this weekend. Taz is in a 3 team 2024 division...that sure looks like a matchup waiting to happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread

Wolfpack are playing in the 2023 bracket...Taz, not so much

The schedule is up on Tourney Machine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up

Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Outlaws would beat both of them and it wouldn't be close. The difference between A and B divisions is astronomical. Please leave.

The tourney is rigged to have Outlaws play the easier teams. Igloo and Express in the championship.

Which outlaws team was at the Columbus day tourney? Black or select?

Can't be Igloo and Express. They play each other and one will have a loss.

Outlaws schedule is a cakewalk.

They will play the winner of Igloo/Express in the final.

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact

That's awesome! Try to own a 2024 bracket first! Lol! Your own coach knows you can't compete in 2023! Lol!

Win a 2024 tournament where there is real competition and then start talking about 2023. You play in 2024/2025 tournaments, and your talking about 2023? Taddies are losing thier minds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact

those little guys would get hurt. Neutralize the face-offs and they are pretty close with everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact

those little guys would get hurt. Neutralize the face-offs and they are pretty close with everyone else.

In 2024

Taz can't even beat the 2024 teams. Come play up with the 2023s if you're that solid of a team. Dare ya!!

I dare ya. Are you 12 years old. We used to say that in 6th grade. Stop living through your kids 9 yr old lacrosse team. Don't be a tool. Nobody likes a tool.

What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.

Go bicker in the 2024 thread. Enough of this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact

agreed. Taz would house the 2023's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.

LOL! They are all face offs! pretty main street otherwise. Pack on the other hand....

The Honey Badgers/Igloo game should be awesome. Igloo really improved.

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

The Pack would have zero shot against Igloo or the Badgers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

Pack needs to get past shore 2 shore first before they start talking about the finals.

Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.

They win out this weekend or lose a close one in the finals they are Special. If not you are correct.

Wish Pack would take their crazies and go back to their own bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Honey Badgers/Igloo game should be awesome. Igloo really improved.

This will be a great game. What youth lacrosse should be about. A great competitive game.

Amazing how this Pack team has pretty much beaten every team in 2024 and a bunch from 2023 and you sit here and say they are nothing to talk about. Didn't Crush and Bandits start out the same way and just kept improving? The fact they play up 99% of the time and have no problem stepping into an A 2023 bracket to see what they are capable of at a much higher level speaks volumes. The plan is to have these boys play good solid lacrosse against teams that should be a step above them. Winning the tournament is secondary. And what parent in all of Lacrosse doesn't think their kids team are a little better than they really are? Look in the mirror, you are one of them. This is a 2023 thread that we shouldn't even be on, but when a troll opens his mouth and blurts out BS, something has to be said. Now go do something right for your boy and have a catch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.

Agreed. They are a step behind the top two Maryland 2024 teams. Maybe start there before the crush bandits comparison. Neither of them lost a game to a Maryland team at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how this Pack team has pretty much beaten every team in 2024 and a bunch from 2023 and you sit here and say they are nothing to talk about. Didn't Crush and Bandits start out the same way and just kept improving? The fact they play up 99% of the time and have no problem stepping into an A 2023 bracket to see what they are capable of at a much higher level speaks volumes. The plan is to have these boys play good solid lacrosse against teams that should be a step above them. Winning the tournament is secondary. And what parent in all of Lacrosse doesn't think their kids team are a little better than they really are? Look in the mirror, you are one of them. This is a 2023 thread that we shouldn't even be on, but when a troll opens his mouth and blurts out BS, something has to be said. Now go do something right for your boy and have a catch.

What 2023 teams has the Pack beaten? Last summer there were 3 A teams at the 2023 level (Badgers, Igloo & 32) and 1 AA team (Bandits). Did the Pack play any of those teams? Every other 2023 team on the Island was B level and any of those four 2023 A/AA teams could step up to the 2022 bracket and beat B teams just like the Pack did at 2023.

You've got a good team but settle down, it's a long road ahead and 2023 happens to be a pretty strong year for LI lax with 75 legit A players grouped into a few different teams (32 broke up). Looking at your schedule this weekend, you should be able to very easily handle Legacy, they are weak at this age group. 3 Village is a town team obviously so you should have an advantage there and Shore 2 Shore is new so who knows. Good luck. If you go 3-0 you'll get to face off against Express or Igloo. Should be a good game for a few minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.

They win out this weekend or lose a close one in the finals they are Special. If not you are correct.

They beat WHB 1-0 in the finals last week. Thats 1-0 to a good town team. 1

I don't like the pack, but in reality they can't win. Either they beat up on 2024 and are told they should play up. If they play up they get yelled at for playing up for multiple reasons.

You are a TOOL! WH went home early not knowing they had another game. Tourney Machine put it as a 1-0 win for the 'pack. Fool

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

OK let me rephrase that to soothe your frazzled nerves. I don't like the pack because of some of their parents like you. For reasons many have talked about on here. Now go drink some hot tea with honey to sooth your vocal cords to be ready to yell at your son this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.

Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Ummmm. Is one of the moderators here going to do something about this a**hole that has called out a child by name on more than one occasion and has now resorted to calling that same 10 year old child a D-bag???? That is absolutely ridiculous.

Done

Amazing how people would actually believe that this is even a WP parent writing this nonsense. It's some lonely pathetic "anonymous" sh*tstirrer who is having a conversation with his or herself.

Calling out a kid like that. You loser. Get off the thread, you loser. I hope that kids father finds out who you are.

Agreed

No way WolfPack Parents are saying this stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how people would actually believe that this is even a WP parent writing this nonsense. It's some lonely pathetic "anonymous" sh*tstirrer who is having a conversation with his or herself.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both

the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Ummmm. Is one of the moderators here going to do something about this a**hole that has called out a child by name on more than one occasion and has now resorted to calling that same 10 year old child a D-bag???? That is absolutely ridiculous.

Done

NEEDS MORE EDITING...see above....

I will not tolerate any mention of players on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

bandits are overrated.DELETED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Calling out a kid like that. You loser. Get off the thread, you loser. I hope that kids father finds out who you are.

Whoever made the comment about the child obviously does not know the child's father. He/she better hope and pray that the father doesn't find out who he/she is!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.

Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.

Actually, that's true. They scrimmaged 2x. Both times it was shockingly one-sided.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

bandits are overrated DELETED

More edits needed above... Why not ban people who use kids names?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

9 year olds? most are 10 so they are playing in the correct bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about

Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.

Whoh..do you French kiss your Mom with that perverted mouth numb nuts? Your kid hates you

Igloo definitely has improved and will get respect that needs to be earned by winning a few games against quality opponents. Once that happens they will be considered a better team than last year. As for HB, they will be fine. They are consistent and have proved themselves the past year by only losing to Bandits and a few 2022 teams. 2023 year has many players that are talented and this year will prove to be competitive. I think that's what you are looking for when it comes to Long Island Lax and competition. Good luck to all teams and players this weekend and lets remember its fall lacrosse with many players playing other sports!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about

Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.

not sure if that was meant to be funny but it actually came out disturbing. In the future you should take a minute to re-read what you have written before you hit send.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch

Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.

Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.

Actually, that's true. They scrimmaged 2x. Both times it was shockingly one-sided.

Yes it was. I was surprised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak

Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about

Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.

not sure if that was meant to be funny but it actually came out disturbing. In the future you should take a minute to re-read what you have written before you hit send.

I agree, the Wolfpack parents are a very disturbing group

This is a guy talking to himself. Haha tool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is a guy talking to himself. Haha tool

I love when grown men use the tool word. Classic NOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

It's amazing that dad's come on here and post this nonsense. They are 10. Enjoy it and stop living through your kid. Every team has a bottom and it's always the same guys who complain. The dad who pays his way on to a team as the last kid then has the gall to write derogatory comments about the opponents. Who cares. Go to a team where you will actually contribute and be happy. Tuck your child in and wish him luck!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Guessing English isn't your first language. You can prob get a tutor in manhassett

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Guessing English isn't your first language. You can prob get a tutor in manhassett

Forget a tutor; Manhassett needs lacrosse lessons. Kids are horrible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Where was the Igloo team from the Columbus Day Invitational? That team that played today was a shell of the one a few weeks ago. I'm guessing they had "help" Columbus Day. They looked mediocre today.

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Igloo lost to Honey Badgers and did not make the finals. Honey Badgers vs. S2S in finals. HB won by 2 in first game and lost by 2 in finals. Great day and some exciting new rivalries being created.!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Where was the Igloo team from the Columbus Day Invitational? That team that played today was a shell of the one a few weeks ago. I'm guessing they had "help" Columbus Day. They looked mediocre today.

No help. Just a bad day at the office

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.

Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.

Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.

you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.

Totally agree.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.

Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.

you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.

Legit question. Why are Bandits in "another league " is because of recruiting, practice ? Why are they so much better? And what happens to that team moving forward? Will they discard the loyal players at the bottom of the depth chart like Crush did?

The Bandits are in another league because of their continuity same players. Same coaches And they practice. The gap is because of that and it seems to have grown. Some great 2023 games today and by today's results after the bandits the other three teams are very comparable, makes it exciting. We haven't had our team together very long and we won a tournament today which was surprising but great !

Good for DK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.

Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.

you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.

Legit question. Why are Bandits in "another league " is because of recruiting, practice ? Why are they so much better? And what happens to that team moving forward? Will they discard the loyal players at the bottom of the depth chart like Crush did?

Like Crush they have a dominant player (middle, instead of attack man). They also only really play the top 14 kids on the team. Those 14 kids have largely stayed the same and played and practiced together for past 4 years.

Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).

I understand that everyone is about the "top" teams but there are other teams in the 2023 grouping that gave good effort yesterday. Kudos to all the boys that get out there and try and to the parents that aren't compmete jerks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).

I understand your thoughts here but many of their boys had football last night and the A was the later bracket (championship was 5pm ) so not much of a choice. Nice to see the great sportsmanship by all teams and a very well run tournament by Blatant ! First class operation

Just because 3 or 4 parents are "disturbing", don't say "the Wolfpack parents". I happen to know many of them and it's only about two sets of parents that ruin it for the whole group. Don't put them together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).

I understand your thoughts here but many of their boys had football last night and the A was the later bracket (championship was 5pm ) so not much of a choice. Nice to see the great sportsmanship by all teams and a very well run tournament by Blatant ! First class operation

JS promised parents they wouldn't lose a game. At the end of the summer they had problems with a 3V town team in the A division. He won't let that happen again.

One thing I know about sports is having problems and listing are two different things seems the Bandits at least have a plan they play grade level first weekend out then play up in a 6 b and I'm sure they'll keep raising the comp as they always do. Our first weekend we played up got beat up then played grade and were inconsistent we don't seem to have a plan Thought the igloo express game was a terrific game . Will be interesting to see these teams grow, does express miss BM I believe so

Is this Shore 2 Shore team for real? Maybe Igloo shouldn't have let DK go?

Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?

Outlaws 2023 did not show up to play yesterday. I don't know what happened. PB made a lot of changes but it didn't seem to work.

maybe got bad dose of Fruity Pebbles for breakfast?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ? [/quote]

I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?

I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see... [/quote

You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids.

South Shore has strong Lax schools.....Garden City, Lynbrook, Massapequa, Wantagh, RVC, and Oceanside to name a few

You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids. [/quote]

Why does everyone have to cheat to put together a good team? Wasn't there a lot of movement among teams plus the disbanding of Manhasset 32 at this age (a team that took the HBs to OT and split with Igloo this past summer)? Sounds like you are a little afraid of Shore 2 Shore...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?

I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see... [/quote

You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids.

you're an idiot. let me guess. you either heard a rumor or started one that they are older... and by your "knowledge" of RVC 2023, you sure are pretty familiar with them. go sharpen your ax somewhere else.

Express parents are nuts over this loss!

Long live DK!!!!!
Can't wait for the Igloo S2S matchup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express parents are nuts over this loss!

I doubt it, its the Fall. I think some, including BM are making too much of it.

What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.

I watched the whole game - didn't see anything funny. It was a great game by both teams. The level of play was excellent by both sides with a slight edge to S2S. And no crazy parents (that I saw)!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.

I watched the whole game - didn't see anything funny. It was a great game by both teams. The level of play was excellent by both sides with a slight edge to S2S. And no crazy parents (that I saw)!

In the future try to act like you've been there before.

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Awesome analysis Mel! What would really be interesting is to see who posts on here more BM or DK. 3rd to 4th....brilliant

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [lacrosse]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa

It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.

so what? if he can handle it and hes proper age. go for it.
although he'll burn out by 14

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa
.

It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.

Wrong kid bandit fogo is JS kid he doesn't play mama boys

mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.

Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I am an idiot. An idiot that talks about kids in this way. I bet he better knock it off!!! DELETED If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.

If you listen to me you can climb under my rock with me.

Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr

Originally Posted by Anonymous

mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.

Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I still suck as a parent and a human being. If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.

If you listen to me you can climb under my rock with me.

That's nice. Does it make you feel like more of a man to say a bunch of 10 year olds who do community service DELETED What a disgrace you are to the lax community. Cant wait for Karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.

Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I still suck as a parent and a human being.. If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.

That's nice. Does it make you feel like more of a man to say a bunch of 10 year olds who do community service to be on a lax team DELETED What a disgrace you are to the lax community. Cant wait for Karma

Yeah, that's why they're on the team... to do community service. Get over yourself guy. None of those kids are on it for that reason. It's great that that aspect is involved, but that is secondary to everyone but the organizer. My older son played on the original team till last year. They had it right. Now it's WAAAAY different. It's all a bunch of crazy parents who see it as a cheap way for their kid to play more lax. Save me the holier than thou crap.

so it is ok to say kids DELETED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so it is ok to say kids DELETED?...

No, it is not ok! I think I settled it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr

Thanks coach. Youve proven to be as ineffective and divisive as advertised

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr

Thanks coach. Youve proven to be as ineffective and divisive as advertised

Let it go...let it gooooo!

Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa

It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.

There were also Outlaws that were changing into MB uniforms-- pick a team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!

Why can't kids play on more than one team?

IMO I think a Club is misrepresenting itself. When you win games and Championships with �borrowed� players it is not representative of talent that Club recruited. When parents are paying thousands of dollars for a Club team, you are under the assumption the product (and wins) are legit. When you see Championship wins on a website, you assume that came from Club talent and Clubs coaches. Instead the reality of the situation is the team only wins when they have guest appearances from talent that other elite clubs developed. It�s false advertising.

Second a coach is actually taking credit for a player he didn�t actually develop and train. Why any coach would want someone else taking credit for their time and talents is beyond understanding. JS deserves a lot of royalties from a lot of Clubs.

But the overriding issue is the parents paying thousands of dollars to have the program develop their child, NOT to win games. The 'guest' players take valuable time away from the kids that don't get the opportunity to play because of the 'guest' player. If you're on a team that uses 'guest' players, you're really getting ripped off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMO I think a Club is misrepresenting itself. When you win games and Championships with �borrowed� players it is not representative of talent that Club recruited. When parents are paying thousands of dollars for a Club team, you are under the assumption the product (and wins) are legit. When you see Championship wins on a website, you assume that came from Club talent and Clubs coaches. Instead the reality of the situation is the team only wins when they have guest appearances from talent that other elite clubs developed. It�s false advertising.

Second a coach is actually taking credit for a player he didn�t actually develop and train. Why any coach would want someone else taking credit for their time and talents is beyond understanding. JS deserves a lot of royalties from a lot of Clubs.

This is why lacrosse needs to follow USA hockey. Every team submits a certified roster to USA hockey for the season. For each game, a uniform score sheet (same form for all games) is used, with each team sticking its roster on the score sheet, which lists each player and jersey number. Each kid wears a jersey with their name on the back and the jersey number. Everything is open and transparent, and can be checked at HQ if need be. And a birth certificate is submitted with the rosters to USA hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is why lacrosse needs to follow USA hockey. Every team submits a certified roster to USA hockey for the season. For each game, a uniform score sheet (same form for all games) is used, with each team sticking its roster on the score sheet, which lists each player and jersey number. Each kid wears a jersey with their name on the back and the jersey number. Everything is open and transparent, and can be checked at HQ if need be. And a birth certificate is submitted with the rosters to USA hockey.

Love it, too bad the cheating losers will fight this. They've spent so much time and money grooming little Johnny for a scholarship, not giving a damn who they may be being unfair to.

Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.

I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!

Badger Dad here, not taking away from anything AJ is doing but I know I speak for most parents on this team when I say. Last years dynamic between AJ and Bob was absolutely the best I've ever seen and MY child thrived on it. That is why the team was extremely successful. All about having fun but I didn't pay $2500 for FUN. I want to win games and tournaments. If you want FUN, stay with PAL. By the way, it's very obvious to know who you are since you are in the minority. You are better off just staying silent so the team can regain itself.

you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.

I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).

All I can say right now is this issue is being seriously worked on......

Agreed there is no structured league or series. However there is an underlying assumption there is Club continuity. This board is filled with posts ranking one club over another and team performance at various tournaments. And when players decide which Clubs they want to play for, it is usually based on team track record, which is assumed comes from the coaching and not guest players.
Tournaments are independently run and that is partly where a player gets their growth and experience � playing against teams from MD, PA, VA. Big learning opportunity. Players also get varied perspectives and training playing for their town/school coaches and Club coaches � that�s were multidimensional training comes in.
When a club brings in Studs for guest appearances it is doubtful it is for the benefit of the player and more likely the benefit of the Club name. Why else bring in a guest player? Because they are short players? Nobody buys that line anymore. I would be curious a Club Directors perspective, particularly those who recruit, train and mentor those players. A player that plays on two teams in one tournament is potentially playing 6-10 games in one day. Say that player gets hurt in his guest appearance game and can�t play in any of the games for his regular Club. Or maybe the player just gets tired, and his performance drops off for his other Club games. I would think a Club coach would have an issue with that.
It doesn�t seem healthy for any youth player and will make them far more prone to injury at some point. I would think this would be a concern for the overall health of the sport as well as coaches. Also curious the perspective of the Tournament Directors that do have rules banning players from playing on more than one team in one tournament. Why would they have that rule in place?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.

I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).

The above works for those kids that are lax 24/7 and who are elite players where D-III is basically their worst case scenario. It does not, however, create an ideal environment for the more casual player - the good athlete who plays multiple sports who will likely be nothing more than a decent HS lacrosse player. I have spoken to parents of kids who have dabbled in the summer travel lax scene but who have not returned - finding it unorganized, overpriced, and with uneven competition. Seeing kids play for multiple teams in the same tournament is a major turnoff for the large majority of parents. The opinion expressed above is certainly the minority one - maybe not the minority one amongst people who live and breathe this stuff - but its the minority opinion amongst prospective customers I am sure. Parents who are exposed to other youth sports find travel lax clownish. Parents who are all in with lacrosse don't realize this - they don't talk to others outside their lax cliques.

What the owners of these clubs are missing is that if they structured things more like USA hockey (and what some other sports do as well), they would make more money. They already have the lax freaks. By making certain changes (enforcing age and participation restrictions, etc) I believe they would grow their numbers and teams, and capture the more causal families. For a 24/7 elite laxer, playing against double holdbacks from MD may seem like a rite of passage that will get the kid better. For the more casual family, its "screw this, we will not be back".

My kids love lacrosse and hockey. With regard to hockey, they play about 50 games over 6 months - usually 2 leagues plus 2 weekend travel tournaments. Almost all games are competitive. You know all opponents are on age and belong on that team. Schedules are set, leagues are joined, and tournaments are entered based on the strength of your team. The clubs almost always get this right, in large part, because the opponents are always on age, and no one is using guest players that would tip the competitive balance. Also, no one is seeing their kid lose ice time to a guest player - nor their kid being bossed by older kids.

And USA hockey does have spring elite teams and summer events where kids get to play with other clubs/coaches/kids to obtain the benefits (exposure, competition, coaching) that such provides. But it is done outside the season.

One impediment that lacrosse has is that it still honors the Town season. Prime lacrosse time (March-early June) is hands off for travel lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...

"I" paid the $2500 and most will understand that it was meant as "I want the boys to win". Kids get better with practice. Tournaments are the end result of practice. We keep a score and we track W&L's. Every parent out there wants their child/team to win. You're one of those guys who doesn't like the MVP trophy but rather likes the PARTICIPATION trophy. Got it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...

I ENJOY a fine wine or a good movie. I LOVE watching my kid kick your kids A$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!

Badger Dad here, not taking away from anything AJ is doing but I know I speak for most parents on this team when I say. Last years dynamic between AJ and Bob was absolutely the best I've ever seen and MY child thrived on it. That is why the team was extremely successful. All about having fun but I didn't pay $2500 for FUN. I want to win games and tournaments. If you want FUN, stay with PAL. By the way, it's very obvious to know who you are since you are in the minority. You are better off just staying silent so the team can regain itself.

Could not agree more. You've done enough damage to our team but complaining up and down the sidelines last year and forcing an issue this year. Let it go already.

Why is no one talking about S2S? Where did they come from? There doesn't seem to be too much information about them. What they did last weekend was impressive. Besides the Bandits, are they the new team to beat? Will the Bandits play them?

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

Make it strictly by birth year. 2005 on the side of the shorts, not 2023. 2005 on tourney machine, not 2023. Easy-peasy. And the college coaches should welcome this - as the kids get older. Best way to predict future success is to have kids play vs kids there own age. And the big clubs should welcome this. Rules that are strictly enforced across the board will, over time, favor the clubs with more $, more marketing, more bling, more teams, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is no one talking about S2S? Where did they come from? There doesn't seem to be too much information about them. What they did last weekend was impressive. Besides the Bandits, are they the new team to beat? Will the Bandits play them?

Obviously a solid team. Poached kids from express, igloo, 32, then sprinkled in a few others. Not sure about holdbacks but that's irrelevant. Part of their performance may have been from clubs playing everyone since it's the fall. I'm sure teams will shorten bench next time they play in summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?

Not difficult. At some point those boys all played PAL/town. Lax world isn't that big.

Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?

many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.

Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?

many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's

Why aren't they playing as a 2022 team if the majority of the boys are in that age group?

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

]Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: S2S did have a kid play in the last tournament that plays on a 2022 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022

Originally Posted by Anonymous

]Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: S2S did have a kid play in the last tournament that plays on a 2022 team.

Don't those two facts contradict one another !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.

How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?

many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's

Why aren't they playing as a 2022 team if the majority of the boys are in that age group?

Exactly. Because they can't win in that bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022

We play grade based tourneys last i checked. if you want to whine about holdbacks go to the 2019 thread

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.

Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?

No really good additions, they are much weaker at the lefty attack position, they lost a fairly decent face-off kid and had negative coaching change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.

Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?

No really good additions, they are much weaker at the lefty attack position, they lost a fairly decent face-off kid and had negative coaching change.

This team will be lucky to make through this year intact, which is a shame because it is a good team.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.
[/quote]
That's hysterical, Manhasset parents are all about 2 things, Drama and playing little Johnny the whole game. Enjoy the honeymoon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

That's hysterical, Manhasset parents are all about 2 things, Drama and playing little Johnny the whole game. Enjoy the honeymoon [/quote]

And equally funny; DK "is" Drama and Trash Talk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022

Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022

d pole was playing up

Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022

d pole was playing

You kidding right?

Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???

Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team??? [/quote]

There are 2 players from that minutemen team: the defenseman you speak of and an attackman. Neither are 2022- they both played up on the minutemen. They are both in 5th grade - they are legit 2023 players. If you are going to accuse, please do your homework. Anyone else you think is a 6th grader?

100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.

What are you talking about..they should be in 6th grade? Those 2 players are and should be in 5th grade. Do your homework. You sound stupid now making things up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.

So let me get this straight. Little Johnny and (his full ride to Duke, Hopkins, wherever) team lost to a bunch of kids I have not been secretly checking out (WEIRD) for years to see how Johnny compare and so they must be cheaters because I don't know them.

Oh man this is great entertainment. I have my popcorn ready.

I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.

where have you been? At the younger ages its doable. As the boys get older it gets more competitive. Last year the boys tried out for 2022 but it was decided not to play up again. These were south shore thunder boys. That team had 2022 and 2023 kids some of which played for minutemen. Its not a conspiracy. They were playing with their friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.

where have you been? At the younger ages its doable. As the boys get older it gets more competitive. Last year the boys tried out for 2022 but it was decided not to play up again. These were south shore thunder boys. That team had 2022 and 2023 kids some of which played for minutemen. Its not a conspiracy. They were playing with their friends.

In other words, by birth date and NY school cutoff dates for enrollmemt in kindergarten, these are kids that should/could be in 6th grade, but for whatever reason are not, so techincally speaking they are in 5th grade and playing on grade, but in reality should/could play on a 6th grade team with kids their own age.

I don't understand why teams don't own up to this practice. There is a loophole in the current system that every travel team takes advantage of. The best is when kids who are the same age as my son but in a grade lower (for whatever reason) play on a 2023 team and the parents say the kids are "playing up," and then when they realize their sons can be standouts playing on a team in their actual grade, they pull them down to play on a 2024 team where they are now playing against kids in their own grade who might actually be a whole year or more younger.

Every team has a few of these kids and it's not against the rules, so why not own up to it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.

so what? legal in grade based tourneys and legal by US lax standards. get used to it btw. only going to happen more going forward.

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

do what you think is best for your kid assuming you can afford private. You know these "reclasses" were at kindergarten. you're head is going to explode in 8th grade when half the teams are a year older

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

Your 5th grader probably wouldn't know if he was held back? You're joking right? If he was that far removed from reality, I think you would need to consider something a lot more drastic.

Any teams going to Lehigh next weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any teams going to Lehigh next weekend?

What tourney?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

If you want him to make any of these holdback club teams you should consider it.

Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

This is sarcasm, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.

8th grade is when you repeat. Do it for lax so you can Improve chances of going ivy and change your kids life trajectory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

This is sarcasm, right?

YES. Based upon crazy 91, Express, Igloo parents wanting to put their kids in lower grades so their little Johnny can be on the starting line with younger kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.

8th grade is when you repeat. Do it for lax so you can Improve chances of going ivy and change your kids life trajectory.

Bingo!!

You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.

I know some holdbacks that won't even be able to get a scholarship to Dowling, lol!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.

Well, I hope you like idiots because you'll be surrounded by them as long as your kid continues to play.

I'd say 25 percent idiots. I surround myself with the other 75 percent. Leaving a kid back to play lax against younger kids. Give me s break. All for maybe 8 grand off a college tuition. My kid is graduating with his friends.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd say 25 percent idiots. I surround myself with the other 75 percent. Leaving a kid back to play lax against younger kids. Give me s break. All for maybe 8 grand off a college tuition. My kid is graduating with his friends.

Good luck with that holdback Dowling scholarship. Lollollol2

Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?

The kids won. They practiced for an hour, ran a short scrimmage, and worked EMO at both ends. no drama.

That's the way it should be. Two very good clubs working together to get the kids better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?

Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?

Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.

it was clear the Badgers were the better team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?

Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.

it was clear the Badgers were the better team

It's clear this is not from a parent with a kid on either team. Go away.

Really? What a moron.it was a glorified practice

No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!

well, maybe one parent/ ex-coach.

Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.

Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.

Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...

Phew. So they cheated last year, but not his year. There were 3 kids that were playing DOWN. You told me about two. The third is on S2S. FACT. Good Coaching. Good recruiting. Great organization. Goo times. Long Island staying classy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.

Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...

So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb!

Phew. So they cheated last year, but not his year. There were 3 kids that were playing DOWN. You told me about two. The third is on S2S. FACT. Good Coaching. Good recruiting. Great organization. Goo times. Long Island staying classy. [/quote]

Igloo cheated last year - not S2S...

So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb! [/quote]

Please tell me which team of the following do not have a kid with a fall BDay: Igloo, Bandits, Honey Badgers or Outlaws.

The answer is none - they all have kids with bdays in the fall (and some with bdays in the spring and summer of 2004).

S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004.

Again, whoever is saying that they have 6th graders is trying to stir the pot. S2S is all age appropriate. Let it go...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb!

Please tell me which team of the following do not have a kid with a fall BDay: Igloo, Bandits, Honey Badgers or Outlaws.

The answer is none - they all have kids with bdays in the fall (and some with bdays in the spring and summer of 2004).

S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004.

Again, whoever is saying that they have 6th graders is trying to stir the pot. S2S is all age appropriate. Let it go... [/quote]

Who cares? So your little kid is not on the best team? Try out for S2S next year. They have played one tourney. They're good, but lets wait till the Spring before you all crap yourselves. Igloo looked great on Columbus Day, but not so great last time out. Badgers looked awesome last year, but the pack has clearly caught up with them. This is how it works so please don't act surprised in the Spring when it all changes again. Everyone needs to realize that any team can win on any given day. That's what makes it interesting. And yes, every team has holdbacks. All of them. There's nothing wrong with that based on the rules of most LI tourneys. Get over it.

Spring of 2004 should be 2022

The school year 2023 in ny state is December 1 2014 - November 30 2015.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spring of 2004 should be 2022

The school year 2023 in ny state is December 1 2014 - November 30 2015.

Understood - AGAIN, S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004. All grade appropriate, all in 5th grade.

By the way every other state where lacrosse is relevant uses a 9/1 cut-off which is why US Lacrosse uses it.

Can we please move on...

HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny

Sure about that 9/1/04 cutoff? Check again S2S dad. Lefty attackman on S2S has January 04 birthday. Any PAL coach can confirm. No secret. Could he be in 5th grade? Could be. But stop with the US Lacrosse date nonsense. He's clearly way older. His coach cheated with Igloo last year. So when there's smoke there's usually fire.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny

That can't be a coach writing that stuff, they would never make such a false statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny

So somebody puts together a team that is not a traditional power and they win so of course they must be cheating? They are all in 5th grade - I am not sure how many times it must be said. Instead of excuses why not take the high road and congratulate them on a good win?

I am guessing there will be many more competitive games in the future at this age. Enjoy it. All of that is good for LI lacrosse...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny

So somebody puts together a team that is not a traditional power and they win so of course they must be cheating? They are all in 5th grade - I am not sure how many times it must be said. Instead of excuses why not take the high road and congratulate them on a good win?

I am guessing there will be many more competitive games in the future at this age. Enjoy it. All of that is good for LI lacrosse...

I assume you mean at this grade, as they wouldn't qualify for age based.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!

No one who was there wrote this or you would know what the scrimmage was about. Go worry about your own team instead of being a wash woman looking for gossip.

Igloo went with daddy coaches for 2023. They were dishonest about coaching staff from the beginning. One figurehead coach and two screaming slimy daddies running the show. Their kids get outsized playing time while we pay above market prices.

So clearly your not apart of this team, because the parents are very happy with the program, the coaches, the team, the players, the practices, the fields, etc. Don't know where you getting your info from, but its clearly not correct. See the only opinion that matters is the families involved with this team.. And we are all very happy, don't hate because we have a good thing. Thanks.

I guess you and I should have a chat at the next game. My son has been on the team for 2 years no and Iwe are far from happy, and I know several other families who feel the same way. AA was dishonest at the start and its obvious now why he did it the way he did

2 SLIMY DADDIES? u serious?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo went with daddy coaches for 2023. They were dishonest about coaching staff from the beginning. One figurehead coach and two screaming slimy daddies running the show. Their kids get outsized playing time while we pay above market prices.

BM the ultimate Troll.
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

Don't feed into his BS or insanity

If you are unhappy,leave! Shame on you for staying.Don't disrupt the chemistry on this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are unhappy,leave! Shame on you for staying.Don't disrupt the chemistry on this team.

This guy isn't on the team, he's just stirring it up from the outside. Igloo has a completely open dialogue between parents and ownership, emails and cell numbers are clearly posted on the website. Only a fool would use this platform to complain.

Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.

You are what's wrong with parents nowadays. Youre 'stuck' because your son likes the uniforms? WOW! Way to be a parent! Don't stand up for what YOU believe is Right!? let your child dictate his future. Im sure he doesn't overhear conversations that you have about this either. "its ok that my team cheats, we look sick in these uniforms." project that out 20yrs.. "its ok we robbed that bank, look at my new suits "
Teach your kid YOUR VALUES!

Warning to Parents:
Travel lacrosse is not rec league or PAL. Its meant for kids who are looking to compete against the best, regardless of a few months of age.
Baltimore, DC, Boston, and Philly are not playing by the same rules as LI. They have mastered the holdback and its only getting worse. Do yourself a favor and get used to it, its actually probably better to play against older kids now so they get used to it.
Worry about your own kids growth and not wins and losses.
If your upset with your club, have some balls and call the coach or owner..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.

So your son was on this team last year -- you were unhappy then. You had your son try out and accept a spot again this year. Your still unhappy. But you won't leave because your son likes the uniform? Dude noone is taking you as a credible source of information. You have serious issues. Seems your the complainer that noone wants to stand near on the sidelines. Someone should inform you maybe you should handle your matter privately. You sound like a psycho!

Maybe you should move your son to another team where they don't have holdbacks. Hahahahahahahaha. Good luck with your search!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.

The whole SH thing was orchestrated last year and unfolded at Stowe. He was always going to be the coach. Wait until next year when PS is gone and SH is the head coach. SH destroyed the 2023 Manhasset 32 program and will destroy the 2023 Igloo program - nobody wants to play for him. The only kid he cares about is his own. There are a lot of unhappy people who feel there was a lot of sneaky, under the table dealings that went on...

AA SH PS JC Go Away angry Igloo daddy. before next installment check is due

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.

The whole SH thing was orchestrated last year and unfolded at Stowe. He was always going to be the coach. Wait until next year when PS is gone and SH is the head coach. SH destroyed the 2023 Manhasset 32 program and will destroy the 2023 Igloo program - nobody wants to play for him. The only kid he cares about is his own. There are a lot of unhappy people who feel there was a lot of sneaky, under the table dealings that went on...

This team is two years old and has a ton of insider scams, rigged coaching, and rigged tryouts.

Yeah Angry Igloo dad
JUMBLE Those initials=ASSCHAPS (or close to it)LOL
that's what you need

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA SH PS JC Go Away angry Igloo daddy. before next installment check is due

Sorry SH

You Manhasset people are tough. A guy takes his kid out of town and it's a scandal?? Have to imagin the group that took the rest of the team to S2S had more to do with the teams issues than one kid and a coach leaving. If that gets you upset you'll never be prepared for the insanity that lies ahead.

You know a lot of parent get smoke blown up there you know what by these travel teams Telling them they will not loose a game? Making package deals to get certain kids on a team only to cut the package kid later. Sometime our. Kids (and parents) just loose. It happens. S2S lost in last game and came back and played a bit better in second game and won. That's why we play the games. No illusions that they will beet them next time, but good to see there is real competition. That's what it should be about. Rather have my son loose a 8-7 game then win 11-0. Looking forward to spring and how things shake out. First time on this site and boy do folks take 5thgrade lax way took serious. My guy is 5th grader and don't care what sore losers say about S2S. The kids work hard and love playing for DK. Bottom line is don't believe the hype most of these teams sell you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I thought it was JC from True Blue that no parent wants on their sideline yelling at the kids and doesn't know their names.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You Manhasset people are tough. A guy takes his kid out of town and it's a scandal?? Have to imagin the group that took the rest of the team to S2S had more to do with the teams issues than one kid and a coach leaving. If that gets you upset you'll never be prepared for the insanity that lies ahead.

You are half correct. They, and other towns, only get upset if you take a top skilled kid(s) out of town. You can take the less skilled players of the grade and play for your rival town and no one will care. Oh wait, but it's about town pride. Lesson learned: Do whatever you want with your own kid and never look back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

There you go again Mrs/Mrs Obvious. Stop dragging our team into this BS. All our kids loved playing for both coaches last year. You're in the minority. You complained last year and now that it's different you complain again. Just let it be. You're a cancer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.

thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take them intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.

Well if you are going to be like that then I'll just have to show you mine. And keep on bashing.

thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.

thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Said the a anonymous poster!
BM dug his own hole with the team and by constantly coming on here and stiring it up he only managed to destroy any goodwill he had left.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.

Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.

thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Said the a anonymous poster!
BM dug his own hole with the team and by constantly coming on here and stiring it up he only managed to destroy any goodwill he had left.

My guess; he probably could care less. Seems to be enjoying the freedom.

Bandits, playing up again.

Bandits are going to have a hard time getting by Channy's 2022 team. This will bring the Bandits down to earth to see what its like to play age based. The most beneficial aspect of this is they are playing against kids their own age and will be a good indication of their opponents in Florida.

Except the BANDITS are playing up and will NOT be playing kids there own age. For two boys that are older but on grade the entire team should not be generalized. The stronger players are all 10. Plus at least they are playing UP. If the express is so strong why would they not challenge themselves and play 2021? Regardless this is what JS does with all his teams play them up and challenge themselves if they lose they lose. Back to earth occurs when ANYBODY their own grade makes them sweat. Would like to see more teams challenge themselves up instead of down

Being that express beat Smash I would expect Bandits to struggle but that's how you improve! Kudos to them

who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Outlaws combo is a mixture of black and select players. Same with the 2022 outlaws. King of hard to field a team thanksgiving weekend so they combined both so they had enough to field a team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Outlaws has a B team at 2023? Sounds like money grab.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Outlaws has a B team at 2023? Sounds like money grab.

what's the alternative if your kid cant make A yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits are going to have a hard time getting by Channy's 2022 team. This will bring the Bandits down to earth to see what its like to play age based. The most beneficial aspect of this is they are playing against kids their own age and will be a good indication of their opponents in Florida.

You can't be serious?? Check Channy's roster. There are definitely holdbacks. Just as there are on every other lacrosse team on LI. You're going to need a better excuse than that when they lose to a younger team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Select and Black. No 2024. They are doing the same thing with the 2024 teams.

Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?

Express is a very old 2022 team which has allowed them to narrow the gap w Smash even beating them. Wouldn't expect Bandits to stay close . Do admire them challenging themselves up but this is a talk task.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?

Their kids have SAT prep

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?

Because DK was ousted from Igloo and doesn't want to play Igloo. He was replaced by daddy coaches and rigged rosters. Ask AA he'll tell you.

Igloo is not playing.

Hey look who's back. The Igloo troll!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?

Their kids have SAT prep

What, no private tutors? Cant they come after the tourney?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

Still getting over the STS battles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

Still getting over the STS battles.

nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

Still getting over the STS battles.

nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.

Stop making excuses. Badgers are just not good enough to compete with Bandits. Never were but even more so this year. They struggled with Igloo and lost to us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

Still getting over the STS battles.

nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.

You played?

Stop making excuses. Badgers are just not good enough to compete with Bandits. Never were but even more so this year. They struggled with Igloo and lost to us.

Great game express 22 vs Bandits express won 11-8 great sportsmanship both ways Between players and coaches Jr did not play so there goes That theory

11-8 and Jr didn't play? Express is fixing for a tuff summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-8 and Jr didn't play? Express is fixing for a tuff summer

All the haters better get little Johnnie on the wall.

11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.

Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.

Was at the game as I posted on 22 board I had a score of 11-7 Our midfielders were just too big and strong but I was Really impressed with skill and grit of the bandits. Having been through this for awhile it was very refreshing to see the mutual respect between players coaches and even parents !! Great day great weather

Having never seen the Bandits...what makes them an excellent team?

Were the Bandits playing on age? They must be reeling from the loss. Tough to take when you go around bragging and tweeting like the do. Guess,when you're on top, there's only one place to go!

Discipline
Work Ethic
Focus
Skill level
Tenacity

You are a loser.they were playing up

I know you all love talking about the Badgers and Bandits. Can anyone tell me how the other 2023 teams did today? The Tourney App hasn't been updated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.

Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.

its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was at the game as I posted on 22 board I had a score of 11-7 Our midfielders were just too big and strong but I was Really impressed with skill and grit of the bandits. Having been through this for awhile it was very refreshing to see the mutual respect between players coaches and even parents !! Great day great weather

.

How dramatic. You make it seem like the US and Soviets getting along in the 80's. It's freakin youth lacrosse. Why would people especially kids not "get along " ? I guess because of nuts like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Were the Bandits playing on age? They must be reeling from the loss. Tough to take when you go around bragging and tweeting like the do. Guess,when you're on top, there's only one place to go!

Playing up hater, looks like you are going to have to save this post for a while. Dope!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.

Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.

its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.

I prefer the comparison to Crush, no breath holding needed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.

Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.

Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.

its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.

I prefer the comparison to Crush, no breath holding needed.

same difference

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.

Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.

ask the kids

How did the actual 2023 bracket go?

Any MD 2023 comp for Bandits?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bandits, playing up again.

Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???

bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.

Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.

ask the kids

I hear they have high school kids, no wait, they are cyborgs! Lying jerk! Why try to ruin the success of 5th grade kids. Jerk!

How did the 2023 bracket go

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Did anyone watch any of the other 2023 games???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

Here is what they are saying, it's fall ball, who cares. Easy way out for the organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

Here is what they are saying, it's fall ball, who cares. Easy way out for the organization.

So I'm guessing that means badgers and Channy both lost to GC and Outlaws! Awesome!

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

Badgers won all of their games easily. 3-0.

Badgers easily beat GC , Outlaws & Channy.

Channy beat GC and Outlaws. By a lot.

Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Badgers easily beat GC , Outlaws & Channy.

It was the worst tournament. Not worth spending a day at the fields.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack up

The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).

Kids playing the game that they enjoy and having fun doing it. You should have went Black Friday shopping and been miserable doing it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack

The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).

The Express teams you beat was a Christmas team at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack

The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).

The Express teams you beat was a Christmas team at best.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Channy beat outlaws and GC?

Your all [lacrosse] crazy, badgers are good bandits are better no doubt. What's the big deal? O wait your kid didn't make an A team and your pissed we understand.

We may never know the final scores since they still haven't updated the tourney machine app. What BS. Worst run tournament ever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your all [lacrosse] crazy, badgers are good bandits are better no doubt. What's the big deal? O wait your kid didn't make an A team and your pissed we understand.

It is You're not your....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Channy beat outlaws and GC?

No

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.

Yeah, sounds about right. Bandits are 1 year hold backs, but MD has two year hold backs!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.

Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.

All of them? Wow. Maryland must be awesome. Give it a rest. All LI A division teams have talent. So do Md AA division teams. The Badgers already lost to an LI team. The will probably lose to a Maryland team or 2. So will everyone else. They are still a very dominant club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

TOTAL money grab I saw the Channy team and it looked like they had an entire team and a 1/2 on the bench. What a Pig Especially when you hand a team to your kid with 30 players on it. How can he possibly succeed? A lot of those kids will get NO time come spring

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?

Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.

Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!

TOTAL money grab I saw the Channy team and it looked like they had an entire team and a 1/2 on the bench. What a Pig Especially when you hand a team to your kid with 30 players on it. How can he possibly succeed? A lot of those kids will get NO time come spring

they're gonna have to figure something out. i can't imagine parents not starting to say something yet. teams do it because teams get away with it i guess. between that and the white team they're doing a huge disservice to the parents, kids, and coaches of those teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg

Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg

Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.

Did they beat anyone?

6th grade sized kid? Or a older boy playing down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg

Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.

I

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.

No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.

No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..

False, and you wouldn't know because you are limited in your experience with the Outlaws and 91. The point is that there are much better clubs who don't pull the bs that Outlaws or 91 pull. You are having a self proclaimed bad experience with your club. Do your research and look for a better club and move on next year. You'll be thankful in the long run.

Older kid playing down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6th grade sized kid? Or a older boy playing down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?

GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg

Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.

The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?

Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.

No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..

False, and you wouldn't know because you are limited in your experience with the Outlaws and 91. The point is that there are much better clubs who don't pull the bs that Outlaws or 91 pull. You are having a self proclaimed bad experience with your club. Do your research and look for a better club and move on next year. You'll be thankful in the long run. [/quote]

"Self proclaimed bad experience"? Do you know what self-proclaimed means? I'm having a great experience with all of my boys' teams, and as far as I can tell, so are they. But please enlighten me, what are the "much better" clubs than 91 and Outlaws that charge a one-time annual fee? It shouldn't take you long to respond because there are none.

You're clueless. Have fun waiting for your coach to show up and know your kids name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs.

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?

If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?

If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?

What's amazing is that the people getting paid never have a problem

If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!

sounds like they made the right decision not soliciting your input, hipefully they continue to do that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?

If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!

Was I complaining about "everything" or was I simply pointing out the displeasure of being lied to by the programs director and the person he hired to coach my son.. Would you be happy if you were paying someone and entrusting them with your son and they lied to you SH ?

given how wronged you feel I'm assuming you cut bait and didn't make the 2nd payment this weekend. I feel sorry for the next organization you go to.

Bob, steo away from the computer. You do realize your not part of this team right?

How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too

who really cares...he makes it work

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too

He's God... Didn't you know that?

he's Squiggy

Not a fan but the guy just Wins and wins

What are some top out of state teams that can compete w LI teams Bandits will be the Bandits, express will be different with coaching change as Well as igloo, warriors and STS

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

Not entirely true. But I think the poster was talking about the top 5 teams in general, not just the Bandits. I think there are definitely some teams that can compete. Laxachusettes Black is solid, Looney's in MD are good too. There are actually a few other teams in Md that will beat many of the top 5 LI teams mentioned; not all the time, of course, but definitely have a shot.

And don't discount the team from Canada who made a lot of appearances last year. They may not have won some games but they were only a goal away in many cases. They had a lot of talent. They just need to fine tune. Never know what another year of training will bring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And don't discount the team from Canada who made a lot of appearances last year. They may not have won some games but they were only a goal away in many cases. They had a lot of talent. They just need to fine tune. Never know what another year of training will bring.

Edge? I didn't see them last year. I heard that they like to bring down older kids, but that may just be talk.

Clueless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

then why when they play up do they need their "guest" player. they are playing more competitive games playing up but this will all level out in a couple years. no one ever said I was on the greatest 5th grade lacrosse team. sit back and enjoy the ride while it lasts. 20 goals plus is an example no coach should be setting at this age. get some perspective people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

smash said the same thing last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

smash said the same thing last year.

Boobaloobalu

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.

smash said the same thing last year.

Boobaloobalu

gungagalunga

How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?

Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?

Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team

one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?

Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team

one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.