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BOTC is opening our Fall 2015 through Summer 2016 thread covering the Boys 2023-5th Grade age group.
So many teams in this age group are going to be really good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So many teams in this age group are going to be really good.

What teams do you know will be tops?
So do you see a shift coming in the age to a little more physical play? My oldest is in this so this is new to me. I noticed some kids getting a little more physical this year, mainly some of the bigger kids. I'm not complaining, just asking if this is where it is "allowed" to start coming out more? Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So do you see a shift coming in the age to a little more physical play? My oldest is in this so this is new to me. I noticed some kids getting a little more physical this year, mainly some of the bigger kids. I'm not complaining, just asking if this is where it is "allowed" to start coming out more? Thanks

I started playing my son up to 6th grade this year because he has gotten a lot better stick skills and faster. This is a good age to test the physicalness of the kids. In my opinion.
What is happening with HB? All kinds of rumors swirling. Are they dead?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is happening with HB? All kinds of rumors swirling. Are they dead?


No. BM out though.
Going to be an interesting tryout season for sure. BM out. How many go with him? How many stay?? And with who?
HB? Hampton bays?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HB? Hampton bays?
honey Badgers. LI Express team.
What club would hire BM?
His only dream was to beat the Bandits.
I've dreamed about beautiful woman, I've dreamed about winning a big lotto. I can honestly say I've never dreamed about my sons 10 year old lacrosse team winning a game.
Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?


Whether or not he left on his own or was asked to leave is irrelevant. That kind of instability is going to hurt the team. Wherever he goes, a few boys will likely follow. I've heard of a few of the other boys moving to other teams even before is announcement. Looks like the #2 slot is up for grabs next year.
BM was told to leave. Then tried to take team with him but according to a few there were no takers. He is claiming the HB name so for all of you who dreamed of having a child on the badgers there are plenty of spots available!!!! Next thing you know he'll be begging for express to take him back. How pathetic. Maybe the Bandits will take him
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that BM is out with Honey Badgers and no longer coaching or affiliated with the team? His choice or pushed out by Express and if true, is he coaching a new team this season?


Whether or not he left on his own or was asked to leave is irrelevant. That kind of instability is going to hurt the team. Wherever he goes, a few boys will likely follow. I've heard of a few of the other boys moving to other teams even before is announcement. Looks like the #2 slot is up for grabs next year.


Was told he left after a blowout with other coach. The Honey Badger name has always been an issue with the Express guys so I imagine it eventually was the straw.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM was told to leave. Then tried to take team with him but according to a few there were no takers. He is claiming the HB name so for all of you who dreamed of having a child on the badgers there are plenty of spots available!!!! Next thing you know he'll be begging for express to take him back. How pathetic. Maybe the Bandits will take him


Sounds like Mike Chanenchuk is back on the boards. LOL That's pathetic!!
Why would BM be told to leave? Doubt the rumor. His passion is to beat the Bandits. The Express parents don't know what's going on. AJ is second in command and he'll be next.
If you don't know why BM was asked to leave then you never played HB saw what was happening on the sidelines. It was a disgrace. The boys succeeded despite him. Good for them
What an inaccurate statement. Check your facts before spewing your stupidity. I guess it's easy to throw a whole bunch of nonsense out there to see what sticks when you're able to do so behind a cloak of anonymity.
That is spot on. I saw them play Igloo late in season and he was nuts on the sideline.
So where is BM going with the HB name? Need to make sure I don't pay for that tryout.
Turmoil at Express. Hopefully the cheap shot defender is leaving.
BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.
Does anyone know how many teams Legacy and Outlaws have in this age group?
Does anyone know who the 2023 Coach of Bluefish will be?
Why is the True Blue website not updated since year 2014? They haven't announced fees, how many practices, who the coaches are, tournaments, etc. And they are asking to have you sign up and pay money for tryouts? Somebody from True Blue please explain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is the True Blue website not updated since year 2014? They haven't announced fees, how many practices, who the coaches are, tournaments, etc. And they are asking to have you sign up and pay money for tryouts? Somebody from True Blue please explain.


I suggest that you register and sign in and ask this question in the Tryout thread. It is doubtful that anyone from True Blue will see it here. If you have reasonable questions, which it appears that you do, post them in the correct thread.
The head coach will be Coach Cat again who is also the co-head coach at Adelphi University
[quote=Anonymous] BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.[/quote

Not true.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous] BM is going to Legacy with a bunch of his Badgers. Should be a great team.[/quote

Not true.



Only part not true is that a that a bunch of badgers would follow.
BM is getting a raw deal. He started the Honey Badgers and had to answer to owners who's program is falling apart and only about the money.
2023 BlueFish..who cares..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 BlueFish..who cares..

Dude, it's Seth Tierny. His reputation is on the line. It's gonna be great.
He built the Badgers into a winner.BM is a very good coach...In fact, relentless! Wherever he goes the team is going to improve dramatically. .
So Seth Tierney himself will coach the 2023 team? Or is he just the Director of the program and we will see someone else at practices? Coaches make a huge difference for any team. Just want to know what I would be getting if my son made the team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 BlueFish..who cares..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 BlueFish..who cares..



some people might. shouldn't really bother you but it seems you are one of the minority on here who post a majority of the negativity. you can bash them next year after some supposed slight you feel you got.
Would you send your kid to an extra tryout or 2 just to get some practice before his "real" tryout, if it was cost effective?

Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 BlueFish..who cares..


Your from Jersey....who cares
Planning to do a few tryouts keeping all options open. Problem is a lot of the tryouts are on same weekend and some overlap times completely. So sorting through what is best option. One criteria coming down to who is coaching. A lot of uncertainty and drama out there on 2023.
The 2 best coaches for this grade are probably the 91 Bandits and True Blue. The Bandits are coached by a MLL Coach and TB is coached by a college Coach. The Outlaws have a lot of good coaches but I don't know who coaches this grade.
True Blue???
Spalina - amazing coach
True Blue - absolutely irrelevant at this age group
Irrelevant? True Blue has JC from Adelphi University coaching! Anyone in the Lax world would tell you he is a great coach. Just look at his 2017 team and all the big time recruits he has. Let me guess your kid plays on some big name team with a coach that played somewhere in college but has Zero coaching background? Good luck with that. This person asked about great coaching not big name teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Irrelevant? True Blue has JC from Adelphi University coaching! Anyone in the Lax world would tell you he is a great coach. Just look at his 2017 team and all the big time recruits he has. Let me guess your kid plays on some big name team with a coach that played somewhere in college but has Zero coaching background? Good luck with that. This person asked about great coaching not big name teams.


My kid's coach, who is also his father, is a drunk and a loud mouth. No one like him!
Thought long and hard about this upcoming year. My kid is a 3 sport athlete and unless we have him truly focus on lacrosse and play year round, he will be delegated to a "B" team. We are going to forgo any tryouts and play with our town team which happened this year. We will take some beatings, but at least he will play with the kids who he will end up in HS with and get coached by our HS coaches. No more BS playing for teams that are in it for the money.
Thanx for the heads up. We were all waiting on pins and needles for you to make your announcement on your sons future before we choose a team for our sons to tryout for. Glad you did it sooner than later.
Finally a parent that has a clue. Why pay these guys a lot of $ so your kids can have swag from these elite programs so you the parents can say We play for so and so..Remember you dont play. Your kid plays. Have them try out for a travel program in 7th/8th grade when it mattters. Play as many sports as they can when they are young.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue???
Spalina - amazing coach
True Blue - absolutely irrelevant at this age group


Get off his ****. You can't even spell his name !!
Loser
My son is going to try out for a few teams. What are your thoughts on Outlaws, or Igloo ? These seem to be the best (good players, practices and tourney choices) options after those two.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son is going to try out for a few teams. What are your thoughts on Outlaws, or Igloo ? These seem to be the best (good players, practices and tourney choices) options after those two.


What about the other teams? I know you guys aren't a fan of some teams, but to censor comments kind of makes you seem petty and, more importantly, it hurts the credibility of this site. It very disappointing. You're changing the comments of others to support your agenda.
Coaching is the most important decision. At the end of the year you want your kid to be a better player than when he started.
The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo


What tournaments did they enter? How did they fare? Did they play Express, or Outlaws?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo


Bob????
Express is a mess with BM leaving. It seems like that program is having a lot of problems recently. 91 Bandits best by far last year. Legacy True Blue and Igloo will all be very good A Division teams this year. Igloo gets a new coach this year so not sure how that is going to play out.
Igloo not solid either. New coach. Unproven. No assistant named yet although rumors are not positive. It will be interesting to see how many players stick around or jump to teams with stronger foundation/coaching.
2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanx for the heads up. We were all waiting on pins and needles for you to make your announcement on your sons future before we choose a team for our sons to tryout for. Glad you did it sooner than later.


Thanks for your input. He was making a statement about the ridiculous travel scene obviously. Maybe you should read things twice and think about the message before slapping the keyboard in disgust.
Who is coaching Legacy?
I am sure express has their team hand picked again this year. If they didn't call you for a tryout you might want to think long and hard before wasting your 100 bucks!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The best teams in this group will be:

Legacy
True Blue
Igloo


What tournaments did they enter? How did they fare? Did they play Express, or Outlaws?


Those are all bottom tier A teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo not solid either. New coach. Unproven. No assistant named yet although rumors are not positive. It will be interesting to see how many players stick around or jump to teams with stronger foundation/coaching.


Wait, I thought Santa was coaching IGLOO because the boys need someone to nurture them, and not be so darn negative. Santa knows the 1-3-2 motion offense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is coaching Legacy?


A lot of turmoil with Legacy at this age level. Coaches of both teams are in turmoil.
How many spots are available on Outlaws 2023?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many spots are available on Outlaws 2023?

A lot of spots open. Bring your $100
We'll see how long Santa lasts when they don't win any games because they were too nurtured! Not to mention the whole team is turning over. Too bad. Everyone thought they had something going.
Bluefish started this year
If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true

Yeah, have seen it at the Outlaws this past season.
Bluefish looks very very interesting! If Tierney pulls it off and gets the numbers at tryouts it could be problematic for other Nassau clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish looks very very interesting! If Tierney pulls it off and gets the numbers at tryouts it could be problematic for other Nassau clubs.

Tierney will not be showing up. All of the other start ups had the same thing, great Director, but no support. It's all about the money and taking advantage of the growing lax scene. Who are the coaches for Bluefish?
It certainly can't hurt to tryout for Bluefish. Hopefully Bluefish gets a good showing at tryouts, my son will definitely be much better off surrounded by talented players rather than playing for his current wannabe travel team, the talent just isn't there. I'm confident there will be quality coaches for Bluefish.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your daddy coaches at igloo or are friends with the directors, you make the team regardless of the talent that shows up. they can deny it, but it is so true

Yeah, have seen it at the Outlaws this past season.


Haha you are funny just another s##t stirrer - unfortunately there will always be an unhappy daddy trying to live through his son complaining about some coach or their son- my advise to anyone is to try out for a few clubs, while there speak to the other parents and ask questions about what the club offers, talk to the "coaches" at the try outs and make a decision based on your needs not on which team claims to be the best or has the nicest helmet wraps, then most of all TALK to your son and ask him how he feels about who he tried out with and what he wants. Good luck to all - it's a roller coaster ride enjoy it because it's over quickly.
Talent is already too watered down!! New teams are at a huge disadvantage. Some old teams are in extreme turmoil!! Should be an interesting tryout season!!!:)
The advantage some new teams may have is people are sick of the turmoil on what are supposed to be the established clubs. The money grab, revolving door of coaches and players is tiring. Maybe someone with a new perspective will get it right.
Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.


But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.

Spoken like a a Director from a sub par "A" club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.


Igloo's coach went or was put on another team - so what
Express coach left or went to another team -so what
Outlaws coach has been the same since they started and not changingd - so what
The point is that the kids at this age make the team and make the coach look and as the kids mature into adults they get better with good coaching.

But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Stop fishing!!!!

You can bash igloo and express all you want. No turmoil. One coach is leaving each team. There will still be plenty of kids at tryouts.

Talking about a money grab. Why do you think these new pop up programs are starting up? They see the $$ the others are making and are trying to get some for themselves. There is no new perspective.

Any "A" player that goes to one of the new start up clubs is setting themselves back a full year+
Nice try though.



But at a fraction of the cost. Igloo & Express & Legacy are all losing their A team's head coach. Outlaws has their director stepping in to help theirs, which is even worse. You,re telling me that everything is going to be peachy over at these clubs? Who,s stay with the team? Who's following the coach? Who is the new coach? Where will he want to practice? These are a lot of serious questions when you're considering dropping $2k-$3k+ on a team. If Bluefish or another team are coming in at 1/2 that and giving gloves helmets, etc... People will try it. I'd hate to be a Honey Badger parent right now. That team was really good and everyone is jumping ship. Same with Legacy. I'm not saying a new club will be better, but the only guarantee with a lot of clubs is the high price tag.


Igloo's coach went or was put on another team - so what
Express coach left or went to another team -so what
Outlaws coach has been the same since they started and not changingd - so what
The point is that the kids at this age make the team and make the coach look and as the kids mature into adults they get better with good coaching.


True; however, if I'm a parent with a child on one of those teams, I'm probably not going to bring my kid back. Badgers were well within striking distance at the end of the season. Now they will be middle of the road. Parents are starting to realize the agendas of these teams are not honorable. The coaches are just as bad. People will have different opinions, but I'm going with stability. My son's coach is great. Not a daddy coach. And, more importantly, he's not going anywhere.
Which Club? Totally agree. People are sick of the high priced drama and jerking around 10 year old boys. Consistency is going to be a big factor moving forward. And if people can save a grand or two along the way. All the better. The constant drive for being "the best" will be the downfall of many teams/Clubs. There is a lot to be said for happy players and happy sidelines. My guess is those are the clubs that will make the long haul.
Igloo lost coach, yes, but has another very qualified guy taking over. All of their players will be back trying out and they look to have a lot of other good players coming to tryouts. I wouldn't be worried about Igloo.

Nor would I worry about Express A (formerly Honey Badgers). The also have all of their kids coming back to tryouts and it sounds like the also have a bunch of other kids coming to tryout for the team. Their coaching staff is the same except that crazy guy BM who yells and tries to fight everyone is gone. No real loss, the other guy who was the co-head coach was the talent anyway.

So expect Igloo and Express to both be BETTER this year not worse. I don't know why people are writing that. BUT...... There is only one team that is at the top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo lost coach, yes, but has another very qualified guy taking over. All of their players will be back trying out and they look to have a lot of other good players coming to tryouts. I wouldn't be worried about Igloo.

Nor would I worry about Express A (formerly Honey Badgers). The also have all of their kids coming back to tryouts and it sounds like the also have a bunch of other kids coming to tryout for the team. Their coaching staff is the same except that crazy guy BM who yells and tries to fight everyone is gone. No real loss, the other guy who was the co-head coach was the talent anyway.
So expect Igloo and Express to both be BETTER this year not worse. I don't know why people are writing that. BUT...... There is only one team that is at the top.

I don't know many people at Igloo, but the one I did hear from said that a bunch of their players are trying out for other clubs. I know several Express guys and all of their kids are trying out for others, hoping to find a better home. The coach was only part of the reason. Two are coming over to my son's team. Before you say that tryouts didn't happen yet, be realistic. You seem to know how the game works. Either way, I'm not concerned with my son's team being the best. But his coach is great and his team was very successful. Most importantly, he loves it and gets better every practice. Good luck to all, whatever you decide.
Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid


Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.
Yeah all for the low low price of $3400 and sub par coaching. Haha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.


When he does its only for 40 minutes. Practice is on field behind his house. Only coaches offensive plays then leaves. My favorite is watching him on his cell phone the wholegame at tournaments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Outlaws are coached by the Outlaws Owner and Director. They also have a very experienced Father/Coach, and are adding a DII National Champion Defensive Coach this year.

Owner Coach doesn't show up to practice. Save your $100.


When he does its only for 40 minutes. Practice is on field behind his house. Only coaches offensive plays then leaves. My favorite is watching him on his cell phone the wholegame at tournaments.

That's the truth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid


Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.


$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!
The best thing for parents to do is to take their boys to tryouts, talk to the coaches, and see if the new boys who show up will make the team better. If you play for a solid club and the teams attracting better players it will all work out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid


Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.


$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!


Dude, he's still with igloo just coaching an older grade.
What's with all these new teams trying to steal players? If you can't attract kids with your reputation then maybe you are in the wrong business!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's with all these new teams trying to steal players? If you can't attract kids with your reputation then maybe you are in the wrong business!!!


What do you mean by that?
It's the wonderful world of travel lacrosse. Nothing new. Usually the player poaching happens at the tournaments when coaches ask for players names! And it gets better every year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's the wonderful world of travel lacrosse. Nothing new. Usually the player poaching happens at the tournaments when coaches ask for players names! And it gets better every year.


You can't steal players that want to stay committed.
Wanna bet! Happens all the time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wanna bet! Happens all the time.


So they are kidnapped?
Where is BM going this year?
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wanna bet! Happens all the time.


So they are kidnapped?


New teams will try to entice coaches to their program by giving them "director" status and a piece of the pie if they bring kids with them. They are all doing it. It's up to the parents to make a decision based on the overall program and its history.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wanna bet! Happens all the time.


So they are kidnapped?


New teams will try to entice coaches to their program by giving them "director" status and a piece of the pie if they bring kids with them. They are all doing it. It's up to the parents to make a decision based on the overall program and its history.


For the clubs and coaches it's a business. The parents buy into the hype and shop their kids around. No one steals them.
It's the current Bluefish Model..what happens to that program when those guys leave Hofstra. What's the sales pitch then? We used to be blah blah...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's the current Bluefish Model..what happens to that program when those guys leave Hofstra. What's the sales pitch then? We used to be blah blah...


I have been speaking with the principals there and they are ALL committed to building their program.
Quick protective comments from the moderator...unusual..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quick protective comments from the moderator...unusual..


I am very impressed by them.. I don't say things that I don't mean!!
New temas means maybe things get watered down, but you know what? Everyone has a place/chance to play. A teams, b teams, c teams. We quickly forget about kids playing a game. Unfortunately its a game wrapped up in a business. Bluefish for example is a new nassau team which is needed i would guess. If parents use logic they need to and ahve a right to ask questions and as paying customers have a right to answers and clubs backing up what they say. I dont know about everyone else but this adds up to a pricey endeavor.

My son is going to play for his town team again. Great group of kids/families, graet coaches. Maybe next year or a couple years he'll want to try out for a travel team. Rught now he is happy and having fun where he is, and has time for 3 other sports, school, video games, volunteering, etc.
A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.

So who is coaching the All Greys?
Kevin Travis. TONS of experience. He is great with the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid


Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.


$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!


Actually both original coaches are gone DK and Lizards coach were the assigned coaches at the start. Lizards coach jumped ship early on and DK got pushed out. At years end it was a typical 3 grand bait and switch with zero accountability from AA. Told you getting a Benz but received a Kia for Benz $$$$. New coach doesn't have same pedigree as original staff but price hasn't gotten lower.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.


I have heard this as well. Most Huntington kids leaving their teams to play for Greys. The hope is to make a super PAL team and their high school program stronger.
Much more than Huntington kids will play on All Greys. It will NOT be a Huntington team at all
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Much more than Huntington kids will play on All Greys. It will NOT be a Huntington team at all


Correct. I said most not all. If it was all kids than it would be just the PAL team. They will need a few others from outside towns to round out the roster. You think the Huntington High School coach doesn't have the big picture of his future teams in mind.
I'm sure he does. He would be foolish to not carry a few of the better kids from Huntington.
They(All Greys) will get the B Players that can not make top clubs at first. If they do things right they will then start to draw better kids.
Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Another igloo parent drinking the "AA" Jim Jones Kool-Aid


Koolaid? If that's what you call an org that tells you up front the costs, schedule, location and gear for the year...then yes I've drunk the koolaid.


$3400 for a team that can't keep a coach? You call that stability? Good luck with that!


Actually both original coaches are gone DK and Lizards coach were the assigned coaches at the start. Lizards coach jumped ship early on and DK got pushed out. At years end it was a typical 3 grand bait and switch with zero accountability from AA. Told you getting a Benz but received a Kia for Benz $$$$. New coach doesn't have same pedigree as original staff but price hasn't gotten lower. [/quote

Right but they ended up 3rd best team in the age group and very close to badgers. Nobody complaining other than you. Don't be angry bc your kid got cut. Btw, it's not 3400.
Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?
Not sure what your laughing at. Did you see igloos offense last year? Do you know which players are returning to igloo,Outlaws and express? Too many of these teams are cauht up in the hype of apparel and empty promises. Too many coaching changes. The coaching on igloo and Outlaws (Outlaws had good parent coach) was sub par at best.This entire grade is in a major transition right now. If you don't agree, I'm wasting my time here. If ANY of the "A" teams lose 4-5 players, their team will suffer which is why they will all be competitive this year. The only true "A" team in this grade is 91.
Kevin Travis coaching 2023 team? When is the try outs and where? Thanks great
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Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

All of the "A" teams are losing 4-5 players at a minimum. Clubs had the talent but blew it in their chase for first place. Next year will be a whole new ballgame!
Check your facts DK is gone!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true. I know for a fact that at least 10 players from the top A teams ( and good players on those teams) will playing for All Greys this year. Once word gets out, I bet other players will tryout. This team will compete with igloo,Outlaws and express right away.


Never happen. They will get a heavy dose of Huntington and some surrounding areas. Unfortunately for them, the stronger players will continue to gravitate to the stronger clubs.
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[quote=Anonymous]A few kids from outlaws,igloo, express,millon and others will be playing for the All Greys this year. Coaching is most important at ANY age. Exposure will follow. This team will be VERY good.


I have heard this as well. Most Huntington kids leaving their teams to play for Greys. The hope is to make a super PAL team and their high school program stronger. [/quote

Thats ok most of the kids if not all didn't get much playing time so they will leave and probably not missed- No big deal - the teams will always loose and add players every year. Good luck to all at tryouts
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[quote=Anonymous]Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?

[/quote

Guess you don't check ALL results just igloo results - they aren't that good but i will give you getting better.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?



I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?



I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?


Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?



I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?


Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest


That's what I'm saying. Not much to brag about.
beat Bethesda blue Maryland and lost to Honeybadgers in OT at Maverick. No one was missing in HB!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thats interesting. 3rd best team. I never seen an end of the season rankings. Who puts it out? I would like to see it. Is it like the BCS?


My opinion only based on tourney results. Fine if you don't agree but who would you say closest to top two then?



I wouldn't put anyone at the number 3 spot. Until Outlaws, Legacy, Igloo, and Express all play each other, there will be the top team (who's name won't be mentioned) and everyone else. Just because they play one good game against a team missing 2 of their 3 top middies doesn't put them above anyone. Who else have they played?


Express B? LOL! Igloo beat Legacy over 4th of July. Don't think played outlaws. Tied bethesda blue at laxfest


That's what I'm saying. Not much to brag about.


keep telling yourself that express B daddy
Those who want to know who is coaching the team and what location practices are in

Long Island Bengals

Massapequa/Bellmore/Merrick

Director and Head Coach 2023 Boys Team

Occupation

Special Education Teacher in Bellmore-Merrick School District (2005 - Present)
Playing Career

Viking Lacrosse Club
Lacrosse Unlimited Lacrosse Club
Suffolk Lacrosse Club
Stony Brook University 1997-2001
Wantagh High School 1997 (All-County)
Coaching

Bellmore JFK High School Head Coach (2014-Present)
Plainedge High School Assistant Coach/Offfensive Coordinator (2012-2013)
Mepham High School Assistant Coach/Offensive Coordinator (2005-2011)
Dowling College Assistant Coach (2002-2004)
Wantagh Tribe Summer/Winter 2021 Team (2013-2014)
Team 91 Summer Team 10th and 11th Grade Elite Teams (2011-2012)
The problem with so called "elite" teams and why there is so much movement year to year is why would an a or a- player want to play on an "elite" team and have to fight for playing time when they can go to most other teams and have no issues with playing time at all. It's common sense, I don't understand why people can't grasp this concept.
I agree. I think the days of 2-3 elite teams are over. Parents and players are getting smarter. New clubs are forming because people see HOW much money these sub par clubs make. There are sooooo many great coaches NOT at these "elite" programs. 5 years ago if you weren't on an "elite" team, you would go un-noticed. Not the case anymore...STOP wasting your money on apparel and swag. Pay for coaching.
Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.
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Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.

Especially when a Director is arrogant, is not transparent, can't reach them, etc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Parents are tired of paying thousands to an "elite" club team, spending thousands traveling to tournaments, to watch their children play 5 minutes of lacrosse. For what-- the glory to say you were there? People are growing tired of it. Free tshirts only go so far.


I'm willing to do all that in order to have my team hat and car sticker and walk around tournaments like a big shot and brag to my colleagues at work about all the tournaments my kid's team wins.
You guys are out of your mind. It is 4th grade lacrosse!!!
5th grade buddy.

Get it right!
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5th grade buddy.

Get it right!

Technically they are not in 5th grade until September.
Thank you!
Beware of the one off teams. Generally they consist of parents who are disgruntled and motivated to protect #1. In the long run you want to be with a team associated with a solid infrastructure and the ability to attract good players and families. You don't want to be searching for a new team every other year.
The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.
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Beware of the one off teams. Generally they consist of parents who are disgruntled and motivated to protect #1. In the long run you want to be with a team associated with a solid infrastructure and the ability to attract good players and families. You don't want to be searching for a new team every other year.

Obvious.
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The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting

Yes there's a change. The coaches didn't get along. BM is out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.


Team 1- head coach is gone. Assistant taking over. That's a big change.
For the better. Game changer. That team will have very little if any turnover now
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

Team 1- head coach is gone. Assistant taking over. That's a big change.

They were co- head coaches. Which was not going to work in the long run.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Express sent an email about this age about who would be the coaches for Team 1 & 2.

Team 1 - AJ (no change)
Team 2 - Mike Chanenchuk Jr.

So no change to team 1. Interesting [/
The coaches didn't get along.
First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.
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First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.


Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For the better. Game changer. That team will have very little if any turnover now


We shall see. BM was the reason that team exceeded expectations.
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.


Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.

No, I'm just another parent who is tired of the Bull that PB represents. We've got 3 more tryouts with other teams we're looking forward to. Done with this team!
Three more try outs, rather busy this summer? Just to clarify.
21 of the 22 Kids that played last year are registered for tryouts. 50 total now, and should be 60-65 when all said on done. We will field 2 Solid teams at 2023. One High school kid(My son , Warming up goalies). Finished a little early because it was close to 100 degrees and a few kids were not feeling well.
Thanks to all 350 Kids/Parents that showed up for all try outs yesterday. All e mails going out Mon/Tuesday.
PB
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Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.


You're off base a little with those expectations. Two parents, at least, already moving to my sons team. Good players, too. I'm sure there won't be a major exodus, but realistic expectations would be to lose 4-5. My two buddies and a few to follow coach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.


Wow 60 %.... and another parent said..... and you ran all the way home to post this at 130..............get a grip - how would you know who did or didn't show up. Im sure the outlaws along with every other org. starting tryouts will be just fine - you are just another one stirring the crap pot.

No, I'm just another parent who is tired of the Bull that PB represents. We've got 3 more tryouts with other teams we're looking forward to. Done with this team!


Good luck on your new team - as an outlaw parent i am very happy to see you go - your son is always welcome to come and play but parents like you who come on here and bash others need to go away
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.


I'm a HB parent and the talent and skills are there because of the countless hours that man put in since the beggining. Something tells me if your a parent who thinks otherwise; you're both very ungreatful and probably a kid who wasn't going to make the team this year.
BM leaves and the assistant coach wants to do less but somehow still beat the Bandits? On top of that some talented kids are leaving with BM. Good luck! Sounds like that unsinkable ship....The SS Titanic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.


Wow thank goodness my kids doesn't play on the HB with this parent. Amazing that you bash the efforts of a guy who just spent the
Last few years developing those kids into a very good team. I always hear that you practice 3/4 days a week and all winter long yet you still show no respect.
BM was and is a great coach. He is tough, demanding, and fun, and constantly, constantly trying to make the kids better. AJ was and is a great coach. He is tough, demanding, and fun, and constantly, constantly trying to make the kids better. I have no doubt that both BM and AJ, both talented coaches, will further develop their teams and have successful seasons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First tryouts in the books for 2023 outlaws. 60 % of last years team was not there. I guess some not returning and vacations. Very hot on the field and the kids played very tired. Not enough breaks so evaluations can be to accurate. Speaking of evaluators, somemof them looked like high school kids, which another parent said was his son and friends. Most evaluators were not paying attention half the time, they were done by the scrimmage. Tryout ended early because hey ran out of drills I guess. They told the boys that 60- 70 kids signed up, maybe there were thirty five there today. Emails to come on Monday and they are having two teams. Not a good representation of play today in an 1 hour 10 minute tryout. Tough if you had a bad day or heat got to you. On to the next tryout.

Yeah, they take anybody who tries out. If you currently play for a town PAL team, come on down and try out. Your kid will get on their "A" team and get some more playing time.
There should be a bunch of open spots on this team with the head coach leaving, I assume 4-5 players leave with him and 4-5 leave b/c he is leaving. Should be interesting to have that many open spots on a top team
In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout.
Very confused. Emails are already out and still another weekend of tryouts???
After 1st try out some kids are taken - then after next try out more - same way they have always done
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right. We shall see. The talent and skills those boys have will not disappear with a coach change.


I'm a HB parent and the talent and skills are there because of the countless hours that man put in since the beggining. Something tells me if your a parent who thinks otherwise; you're both very ungreatful and probably a kid who wasn't going to make the team this year.



Interesting statements. But if you knew more you'd be able to explain why not a single HB player agreed to go with BM when he was let go. The lies and deceit finally caught up with him. He made many calls to parents and had a parent meeting yet not a single one is following to his new club. That speaks VOLUMES.

So explain that one since you seem to know everything. Clearly there is something very wrong there because many of these families were with that team for multiple years.
How would anyone know who is going to stay and who is leaving until tryouts are over? People have free will and I am sure a couple will leave with or without coaching problems. AJ is a great player but as a coach TBD
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In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout.

1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout. [/quote
1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.


Why is he a tool. Because he is teaching his son to always strive for excellence. Their are many teams out there and doesn't want his son to settle for the first team he made on the first weekend of a month and a half tryout season. Nobody even knows who the coach is for the outlaw black team yet. Not posted anywhere nor was it addressed at the tryout. There are more questions than answers. The coach will have a big impact on how passionate the boy stays and if he continues to understand the game as you put it. Most B teams don't get that quality of a coach and it's usually some college kid trying to make extra money over the summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]In regards to the 2023 Outlaws, I felt there were many talented kids in attendance. Sure anyone could make up an excuse of why their child did not play up to their potential, but it was 90 degrees for everyone. My gripe was receiving an email stating my son was invited to play for the "black" team only to receive a follow up email 2 hours later stating the black team was the B team and the A team is now called "select". If my memory serves me correct, the A team for outlaws was named "black". I told my son before tryouts that he could play only if he made the A team. It is my philosophy that there are no "b teams" in life, so if you settle for less than the best, you are selling yourself short. It sucked to break the news to him, but hopefully he will strive to improve for the next team's tryout. [/quote
1/
You my man are a tool and are doing your son a tremendous disservice. There are plenty of fine coaches who coach the second team in some organizations and one of these coaches may connect with your son. It's not how the race starts but how it finishes and regardless of the impetuousness of college coaches recruiting middle schoolers 5th grade is still young to poison your sons brain. As long as your boy stays passionate and continues to understand the game the right way everything works itself out.


Why is he a tool. Because he is teaching his son to always strive for excellence. Their are many teams out there and doesn't want his son to settle for the first team he made on the first weekend of a month and a half tryout season. Nobody even knows who the coach is for the outlaw black team yet. Not posted anywhere nor was it addressed at the tryout. There are more questions than answers. The coach will have a big impact on how passionate the boy stays and if he continues to understand the game as you put it. Most B teams don't get that quality of a coach and it's usually some college kid trying to make extra money over the summer.


I don't think there is anything wrong waiting to try out for other teams to hold their try outs and strive for an A team. Many parents sacrifice for their kid to play travel sports and if they only make a B team they might prefer to put the money into clinics and camps instead. B teams can be great and they can be terrible. If the coach is good, committed, fair and motivating, that is great. However, the kids on the team have to be all in too. Sometimes you'll find the families aren't as committed and kids don't show for practices or games because they play for more than one team, other sports or it's just not the team they want and the motivation is lacking. I've seen it both ways. A teams usually don't struggle with this and I think it is wise for the dad to encourage his son to wait it out, work hard and strive for the best. That said, I don't think anyone should put down a B team at any level just because they are a B team. Not every kid is an A player and there should be teams for all kids to play. The key is to find one that is a good fit and kids and coaches are committed. They are out there and can be worth the time and money .
Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.
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Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!
That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed.

How about "son would you like to play, have fun, and work on getting better"? Your quest for you son to be awesome like you is only going to hold him back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!


Agreed. Unfortunately most B teams don't get a good or dedicated coach. The directors usually don't even give them the time of day. Read the post here, outlaws had tryouts this weekend and sent emails out telling you have a week to register or lose your spot. nobody has any idea who is coaching their black team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because it's not about A/B it's about getting better. Because it's not about the parent who never accomplished anything athletically it's about your child growing at his own pace. I have seen many 5th grade A players fail miserably at the MS and HS levels and 5th grade B players bypass their A team club mates toward D1 commitments. Bottom line seek the best experience for your son and forget labeling A/B teams, your son should be saying his team, my team or our team.

AMEN!!!!


Agreed. Unfortunately most B teams don't get a good or dedicated coach. The directors usually don't even give them the time of day. Read the post here, outlaws had tryouts this weekend and sent emails out telling you have a week to register or lose your spot. nobody has any idea who is coaching their black team.

Classic bate and switch. It happens every year.
Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.


I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.


The hard part of figuring out if your better on a clubs B team vs another clubs A team. Is being on Outlaws, express, b team better than Millon and Sharks A team.

I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling me a tool because I am teaching my son not to settle for less? I am very skeptical of "B" teams. I sincerely believe most "B" programs are more of a "your kid didn't make the team but we'll gladly take your $2400" than a program dedicated to improving the kids that didn't make the cut. I am sure there are exceptions so don't get all butt-hurt if your son's B team is nurturing him to your satisfaction.

"That makes sense too. Sit, don't play for another year because you didn't make the "a" team. That will help him improve to make it next year. We'll just play catch in the backyard because we already know daddy is an "a" player so that's allowed."

If you are referring to me, you are making a giant assumption. My son plays other sports during the year as well as PAL and summer lax. I don't feel a $2000 plus fee to be on a substandard team is worth it. There are other avenues to have fun playing lacrosse without having to pay an arm and a leg. He will get plenty of minutes playing with kids his age and older, so I am not concerned with him skipping club ball.

Anyway, my son is trying out for other teams.
Club lacrosse is a hustle. If you feel you are getting your money's worth with your kid playing on a "B" team, then do so.


The hard part of figuring out if your better on a clubs B team vs another clubs A team. Is being on Outlaws, express, b team better than Millon and Sharks A team.

I would have to agree that staying away from b teams is usually a good idea. Unless you absolutely love and know the coach and other players. Otherwise it is just frustrating and expensive. I learned my lesson and would never do it again!


There is only one club with a competitive B team. If you're looking to play in meaningful competive games on a B team then you need to try out for that one. If you're looking for a team that will allow your son a chance to grow and develop as a play, then there are plenty of options. Do your homework first.
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.


Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.


Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!


It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.


Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!


It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.


If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.


Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!


It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.


If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?


What team are you referring to?


I get your points on the b teams not being an option for you. We haven't had any experiences good or bad with travel clubs. My son is on his town team. He's having a good time there and learning the game in a "non-hysterical" atmosphere. I thought you were looking at it as I'm too good for a b team mentality when you really don't want to give them a lot of $ for a less than advertised product. I apologize.
Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather the lesser club's A team as I would imagine more effort would be made to train and coach that team. At the end of the day, I guess it all boils down to the organization and the coach.


Good choice. And any kid on this competitive b team who is a decent player will eventually be moving on. And I don't mean to that clubs a team because that rarely happens!


It's a very solid club. As far as kids moving up to the A team, not true at all. Two kids got moved up since the fall. Probably one more this tryout.


If all these kids are moving up, what happened to the kids they are replacing? Why are they leaving the team?


No one was replaced. The A team's roster was just strengthened with more depth. There may be an upgrade to a position at tryouts this year, but then again, maybe not. The program has a history of selecting kids from the B team at any time of the year if they think it will help the A team. This weakens the B team, but they view it as a farm system.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!


365Lax is run by MLL, NLL, and D1 St John's players. Compared to any other club, they have the most amount of practices year round for the tuition. Rates are reasonable. They are based out of Bethpage.
1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?


Thank you for letting us know. I will check in to it.
Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?


I am looking into this and I will get back to you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1st-Didn't Huntington have a select 2023 team in the past?
2nd- I tried the All Greys link from BOTC several times and keep getting a message that the page could not be found. Now what tournaments are the All Greys entering? What is the cost? What do you get in the number of practices, number of tournaments, and gear? Is Travis going to coach this team or just oversee it?


All Greys is having website issues. I am told that they will be back in full force this evening.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Moderator: Any updates on True Blue? I've tried to email them 3 times and no answer. They do a lot of advertising, but.....no announcement on annual fee, when do they start to practice, how many practices, what's included in the annual fee?
Can you get some answers?


That is normal for true blue. Last year my son tried out and I never heard anything back from them when I called or emailed. The only thing I ever heard from them was when they send out a mass emailing saying if you have not heard from them you did not make it. Totally unprofessional.
True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.


PM me your email address and I will give it to them.
The fee's usually are announced at the tryouts. Last year they charged $1350. A pretty good deal. I called one of the directors and this is what he told me...This team will practice in the Fall, play in a Fall tournament, practice indoors and play a winter tournament then get once a week in the spring and 5 tournaments over the Summer. Custom CPR Helmet, Custom Gloves and more are included this year. At this 5th grade level they seem to have a buzz this year..They have someone on staff now to handle all emails and you can reach out to truebluelacrosse@gmail.com
I know they announced at the tryouts that if you made the team you would be contacted. Not sure if they contacted each player that was not selected. I made it and was called. It was a great year and they handled everything pretty well from my point of view. I will def be trying out for JC team again. He was the best I have seen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fee's usually are announced at the tryouts. Last year they charged $1350. A pretty good deal. I called one of the directors and this is what he told me...This team will practice in the Fall, play in a Fall tournament, practice indoors and play a winter tournament then get once a week in the spring and 5 tournaments over the Summer. Custom CPR Helmet, Custom Gloves and more are included this year. At this 5th grade level they seem to have a buzz this year..They have someone on staff now to handle all emails and you can reach out to truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

Thank you!!
Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..
I am confused are u saying that two kids that played the year before got moved up at tryouts or two kids got moved up during the spring season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?
True Blue should be a great team this year. Some highly talented kids that left last year are coming back this year. The college coach who has this team is the driving force behind this and will make it an elite team. He had the 2017 TB team that has a ton of D1 recruits on it. He plans on taking this team to the end.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why is the All Greys link totally missing now from BOTC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is the All Greys link totally missing now from BOTC.


Their website is having issues. They will be up soon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?


Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?


Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.


Wrong!!!
Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!
IIRC, True Blue had a 2023/2024 team this past season? Did they have a 2023 only team also?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

JS = Win at all costs
JC = Great youth lacrosse coach that understands there is more to a kids development then lacrosse practice 4 times a week
True Blue guys are pushing hard the last few days.

Like a Snake oil salesman
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!

JS = Win at all costs
JC = Great youth lacrosse coach that understands there is more to a ki
ds development then lacrosse practice 4 times a week


You may not like JS style- but there is no denying that he knows how to develop skills and team work, alongside perseverance and dedication. He may not be for all kids, but he knows what he is doing and there is no shortage of kids lining up for a shot at one of his teams. There can be more than one great coach and there should be, so kids can find their right fit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue guys are pushing hard the last few days.

Like a Snake oil salesman


You sound bitter. Wonder why.
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like some good changes are on the way for this team. Going a good amount through the year will make the pretty tough come the Summer tourney grind..I know Cat is the best there is at that age group bar none..should be interesting to see who the suprising this year..

Isn't Joe Spallina the best there is at this age group?


Yes. And this True Blue hype is clearly coming from the club.


Wrong!!!

If the coaching is the greatest on the Island, then why does the team's play not reflect that? They must be advertisers.
Come on angry!! now climb back into your BF or HB hole and be on your way now..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Come on angry!! now climb back into your BF or HB hole and be on your way now..


Not angry at all, but let's be realistic. They are a decent program. And that's fine. I don't understand why people need to pump them up like they're the second coming.
Is this the same guy as last year? Give it up guy
No one said it was the second coming. The Coach took this team late last year because the other coach decided last minute to take over a team he used to coach. Due to indecision a lot of kids left before they knew he was coming on board. The turnout was low but he worked miracles with some of these kids. A lot of kids that left are now coming back. If you saw the talent on this team 2 years ago your head would spin. Hopefully he gets comparable talent this year because then it will be an elite team. No one said that this True Blue coach walks on water but anyone that knows him or played for him will tell you that he is one [lacrosse] of a coach!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen the T B coach is a highly regarded college coach who happens to have a great track record as a travel team coach also. A lot of people are about to spend a lot of money on a team and really do not know what kind of coach they are getting. JC of True Blue is a proven coach. They are too few of them and nobody compares him to Spallina because obviously he is also a proven coach with the best team by far in this age group. That would be silly. Now look at all the other unproven options out there!!


He is an assistant coach at D2 school how does that make him a highly regarded college coach. You are pumping him up like he's a Duke or Carolina coach, please stop making a mockery out of the youth lacrosse scene. Who are you and what are your credentials to label him as "Highly Regarded" . By who ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
True Blue answered me right away and said that they email everyone back.

They would like your contact information so that they can contact you.

If you want to PM me and give me your contact, I will pass it along.

If not.. this is the email address I used and you should be using.

TBL-Directors truebluelacrosse@gmail.com

That's the email I used 3 times.


I also emailed true-blue to inquire about the 2023 team and no response.
Co Head coach. Used to be the assistant when he ncaa assistant coach of the year he got promoted. And yes he is not a d1 coach but I think the guys point is that he is not a parent coach like a lot of programs have. He played D1 but so did a lot of these other coaches but they haven't established themselves as coaches yet.
I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.
Totally not true. Half the team left last year even after the coach was named. And most of those who left last year are not coming back this year. Last year was a 3/4 grade team because they didn't have enough kids to make a full grade team. He may be a good coach but what was this teams record last year? Which brackets did they play in? Who did they beat? If your going to pump up the advertising that's ok but be factual. The tryouts will show a lot. Including talent level.
Does anyone have any experience with Outlaws Black? I am assuming some of he kids from last year are returning and someone here have seen them play or knows who's coaching that team.

Thanks in advance.
Keep in mind that kids also attend tryouts as tune ups for other teams. some times parent just want to test the waters. Especially since it was midweek tryout and nothing else going on . Don't read into the numbers even though they will use that to get parents to commit early
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Co Head coach. Used to be the assistant when he ncaa assistant coach of the year he got promoted. And yes he is not a d1 coach but I think the guys point is that he is not a parent coach like a lot of programs have. He played D1 but so did a lot of these other coaches but they haven't established themselves as coaches yet.


Geez you know everything about the guy.
no. They did not
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.

WhT team was the tryout for?
If you are under the assumption Outlaws "black" is their top team, you should know it is now referred as "select". There were plenty of talented kids there for the 2023 tryout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are under the assumption Outlaws "black" is their top team, you should know it is now referred as "select". There were plenty of talented kids there for the 2023 tryout.

ohhh stop. The over confidence is killing us.
OK My kid isn't goo enough for the top Express team or Igloo As a nassau county kid, what would be the next teams in this age group to try out for?
Long Island Sharks have a good program . 365 lax and Bengals . There are a lot of smaller teams that do well. Find out who is coaching the teams and start there
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island Sharks have a good program . 365 lax and Bengals . There are a lot of smaller teams that do well. Find out who is coaching the teams and start there


Try Bluefish....new but so far the coaches seem to be very good. And Hofstra is certainly convenient.
What's up with all the Igloo kids at Express tryout? Had to be 10 Igloo helmets.
Icon is good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.


Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.
Igloo made big changes with its coaching staff so everyone is trying to find seat before the music stops! No one wants to be left having to play on someone's B Team
Interesting. Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.


Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.


Ok, how's this: the only kid on the team that was any good, took most of their face offs, and SOMETIMES ran as a fogo. Is that more clear? Sorry your best player is leaving.
What club was this tryout for??
Express tryouts were last night
Sorry to stir things up but the kid who took most of the face offs was at football practice that night
Word is a drop off in talent compared to last years tryouts..not a surprise with kids moving around and some of the turmoil there..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I brought my son to a tryout yesterday. There were many talented boys there. I noticed a lot of Igloo helmets there, some Legacy (including their fogo) and express. Looks like there will be some major turnover this season with many good players shopping for a better fit.


Legacy did not have a fogo last year. You are clueless.


Ok, how's this: the only kid on the team that was any good, took most of their face offs, and SOMETIMES ran as a fogo. Is that more clear? Sorry your best player is leaving.


Wrong again Maryv
Outlaws top team will be greatly improved from last year.
Legacy is done from last year and they were not even that good. Some people leaving because the coach didn't play to win and did not teach enough it eas more basic for 2nd graders and some are leaving because of the Smithtown parents were obnoxious. One mom even paid here kid to score. Whatever they are a B team at best this year.
Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams
Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams


No such thing as 2 A teams. Always a B team and no matter how Mike C wants to spin it; it's still a B team. Talent was horrible at Express tryouts. B team will be very very weak.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams


No such thing as 2 A teams. Always a B team and no matter how Mike C wants to spin it; it's still a B team. Talent was horrible at Express tryouts. B team will be very very weak.

Talent was horrible? So your kid sucks or you're just making stuff up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams


Hard to have 2 elite team when you don't have elite players. The tryouts were very soft. Alot of kids with no talent. Express can email all they want about coaches and trainers, they do it all the time but when it's time to deliver, it'll be Mike C running his self promtoted practices of 35 kids who hand him $40 a pop. Don't fall for it the bait and switch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Express have 2 A teams and a third B team for this grade? Email says two top teams


Hard to have 2 elite team when you don't have elite players. The tryouts were very soft. Alot of kids with no talent. Express can email all they want about coaches and trainers, they do it all the time but when it's time to deliver, it'll be Mike C running his self promtoted practices of 35 kids who hand him $40 a pop. Don't fall for it the bait and switch.


What is your agenda? You are the same person posting over and over again, trying to sound like different people, about how weak and terrible it was..
Sure the Outlaws team will be much improved. NOT. It will be the same team from two years ago, which was marginally better than last year's team, which was pretty awful.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?


Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?


Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.


I heard that you are wrong. lol
Ok.
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Ok.


wink
why so angry?
3 teams in 3 years
Very impressed with bluefish coaches and the structure of the tryouts this morning
same here on the Bfish.
If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility
[quote=Anonymous]Sure the Outlaws team will be much improved. NOT. It will be the same team from two years ago, which was marginally better than last year's team, which was pretty awful. [/quote
Thank god your not coming back next year - its parents such as yourself that take away from the game and experience kids get. Best of luck to you with your new team.
Ok fishbait. Talent level was awful. B level at h..see how long that lasts..you think powers will last with that...
Is this the same org as the li blue sharks? See most of the coaches are the same
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility
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Powers is coaching the 2020 team. Tierney is a director
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this the same org as the li blue sharks? See most of the coaches are the same


No...2 different programs
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like DK left Igloo. Is he coaching 2023 somewhere else?


Rumor has it he's gonna coach a select team made up of Manhasset 32 and Honey Badgers. Rumor.


STAY AWAY ........ Guy is out of his mind there is a reason he has jumped from club to club
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If powers or tierney is a coach...maybe a possibility


I'm doubtful either will be. A lot goes into running a program.
With all of the coaching changes and expansion of teams on the grade level, it looks like one club is going end up with the top two teams. Speaks volumes to the ability to attract and retain both coaches and players alike.
Which club are you referring to that will have two tops teams?
With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!


lol. Me too. That was amazing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!


lol. Me too. That was amazing.


Me three!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With Kevin Travis joining Outlaws and the uncertainty of the igloo, I think it's safe to say that the Outlaws will be best team at this age.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that. I was having a bad day and that laugh totally helped! Awesome!


lol. Me too. That was amazing.


Me three!!!!

Just got done puuting my boy to bed, jumped on BOTC to catch up from a long weekend, saw the statement about PB's 2023 so called elite team and laughed my brains out.
I thought 32 had a good team and a good coach. Why would kids leave that program for him?
Me four. Still chuckling over Outlaws comment.
To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.
32 folded
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.


There are a lot of very good teams, just can't talk about them. I don't even know that I would put Igloo in the conversation even before kids jumped ship. They were competitive, just like Outlaws, but did they win anything?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I think what the poster means is that they may not run a summer program any more. There's a little more to it than just living in Manhasset.
Outlaws #1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To all of you laughing. Tell me who will compete with the Outlaws??? A disjointed express,32 or igloo???? Come on guys, you can hate all you want. The Outlaws are going to be VERY good again. Sorry ifnit bothers you.

Is the removal of the prior Assistant coaches in favor of Travis going to make the Outlaws #1??
you guys do realize that you are bickering about 2023 kids?...holy s--t, get a collective life!....take a long look in the mirror and see what your lives have become when you are hammering each other about 5th grade boys.....guy from Subway would be proud of you all..
Can anyone give some insight as to how the Outlaws 2023 team played last year and what's expected out of them this year. How they stack up against legacy as they both have two teams in this age group. I mean honest opinion even if your kid competes against them.

Just a parent looking for some insight into the programs and what team is best for his kid.

Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you guys do realize that you are bickering about 2023 kids?...holy s--t, get a collective life!....take a long look in the mirror and see what your lives have become when you are hammering each other about 5th grade boys.....guy from Subway would be proud of you all..


Settle down, Francis...
2nd round of tryouts tomorrow. Going to be a beautiful day. Best of luck to all the boys. I heard results will be posted by weeks end. Anyone know?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares


People who are interested in 2023 lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares


All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
32 folded


Did they really? That's surprising. I thought they had something pretty good going. It's tough to keep a town team together through the full year though.

32 is a town team. Unless everyone is moving they will still have a team, like in all other grades.


I heard that there were a very large number of Manhasset kids at Express tryout. I'm not sure if that confirms the rumors of 32 folding, but it definitely doesn't look good for them.

Who cares


All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK

Big showings from the 321 kids at Express and Igloo tryouts

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK[/quote]

Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year...
What team is DK coaching? When are the tryouts?
8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.


Thanks for your concern. The team will be fine with or without the 32 kids. I think I would be worried more about the change in philosophy at Igloo. It went from being all about the kids, 1 team per grade, no parent coaches, etc. to multiple teams per grade, parent coaches, and all about the money. Not to mention the parent politics are running the show.

Stinks - I thought this organization was going to be different...
Every travel lacrosse team is about the money. They are businesses. And business must be good because there's a new start up team announced every other day. Unless a coach is running a team and not charging for his time -- than he's in it for the money too.. Let me know if you find that team with the pro bono coach. they will have one [lacrosse] of a tryout!
The way the Outlaws parent is trying to spin the death of Express and igloo,and the rise of the outlaws; is rediculous. My son has been at both, and the talent level has been great. I Was very impressed with the structure of the igloo tryouts yesterday. Hopefully it will be the same today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
8-10 kids from 32 seen at a lot of different tryouts. That roster wasn't big to begin with. Hope you weren't counting those kids in the new competitive team. And that's just a parent observation.


Thanks for your concern. The team will be fine with or without the 32 kids. I think I would be worried more about the change in philosophy at Igloo. It went from being all about the kids, 1 team per grade, no parent coaches, etc. to multiple teams per grade, parent coaches, and all about the money. Not to mention the parent politics are running the show.

Stinks - I thought this organization was going to be different...

No parent coaching?? The guy who started the club coaches his own son.
Since when is starting and operating a business that provides a quality product people want a bad thing? If the product is poor or over priced, people won't buy it. If people think a program provides a valuable service at a fair price, then they will buy it. Should we expect lacrosse trainers and coaches to do all this for free? I don't think this would attract great training and coaching talent for our kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every travel lacrosse team is about the money. They are businesses. And business must be good because there's a new start up team announced every other day. Unless a coach is running a team and not charging for his time -- than he's in it for the money too.. Let me know if you find that team with the pro bono coach. they will have one [lacrosse] of a tryout!
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK


Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year... [/quote]

Great guy who brought in 2 kids from his own town that couldn't make a competitive B team in their own grade so they played down a year on 2023 and never came off the field ! Rebut that DK followers and AA allowed it to morph into a disaster rather than pull the plug on DK when sparks started flying. The entire year was marred with DK insanity from running kids until they almost fainted to firing back at parents who had afternoons wasted at meaningless scrimmages and questioned him on less than adequate playing time. The guy is a wacko who should not be coaching youth lacrosse let alone pay Igloo $3K for him or this other 3rd rate HS coach. The whole fish stinks from the head down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All i can say if you have a 5th grader stay away from DK


Nice try AA. Don't be a DK hater. You shouldn't let parent politics dictate your organization. Yours' has now become just like the rest of them - all about the money. He got screwed by Igloo. Great coach, good guy. Will have a very competitive team this year...


Great guy who brought in 2 kids from his own town that couldn't make a competitive B team in their own grade so they played down a year on 2023 and never came off the field ! Rebut that DK followers and AA allowed it to morph into a disaster rather than pull the plug on DK when sparks started flying. The entire year was marred with DK insanity from running kids until they almost fainted to firing back at parents who had afternoons wasted at meaningless scrimmages and questioned him on less than adequate playing time. The guy is a wacko who should not be coaching youth lacrosse let alone pay Igloo $3K for him or this other 3rd rate HS coach. The whole fish stinks from the head down.[/quote]
So what's the alternative now.... Selhorn???? and a daddy coach???
Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?

yes, and doing very well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most top teams have daddy coaches. Don't they? Doesn't seem to be a big deal. DK wasn't a daddy coach and folks on here don't seem to be too happy with him. Is he at another club now?

yes, and doing very well.


How is he doing very well? Recruiting? Evaluating a tryout? He not doing anything.
igloo calls go out yet???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
igloo calls go out yet???

They said they were starting last night but it could take a few days
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
igloo calls go out yet???

They said they were starting last night but it could take a few days


They are all on the field now with the 200+ kids trying out for the 2022/2021 4 teams.
They prob still haven't finalized while waiting for the HB kids to decide on defection...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hi! New here and could use some advice from the seasoned parents. My son (2023) plays for our town "club" team. A large portion of our team also play for other club teams. Any recommendations for a good team, preferably not fathers coaching. We have that now and it can sometimes be a little self serving. I was considering, legacy, outlaws or force. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated as I would hate to make an expensive mistake or turn my child off to a sport he loves!! Thanks in advance!!


My best recommendation would be to find out who the coaches would be for your son and meet them in-person before committing to a team. Coaching is everything at that level. Don't know much about the coaches at legacy or outlaws, but I hear the force coaches are great.

365Lax is run by MLL, NLL, and D1 St John's players. Compared to any other club, they have the most amount of practices year round for the tuition. Rates are reasonable. They are based out of Bethpage.
Thank you for suggestions!
I got my call!
yes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I got my call!


A 10 year old boy should not be up and posting online at 1:30 am. I assume you're 10 by the use of "I". Grossly excited.
I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater smile smile
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater smile smile

Dint your son make the team but Dint you get cut?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I got mine too!!!!!!Dint be a hater smile smile


Just to be clear, this elation is because your kid made Igloo? Sorry to be the bubble buster, but that's not really an accomplishment, Chief.
Why is there so many posts on Igloo? who cares. Their two coaches from last year aren't even coaching this team. You now have two new unproven assistant coaches this year. The news should really be about teams that have proven coaches who are still with the team from the beginning. I only know of 3 top club teams with great coaches who are continuing with their team: Bandits, True Blue, Legacy
Every other top club has had changes in their coaching staff. A lot of kids have left the other clubs as well. Consistent Coaching is going to be the key factor this year.
lots of new faces on team must be many unhappy people from last year
same assistant coach from last year and he was great. Everyone very happy with him. Majority of last years team was at tryouts and Igloo was their first choice. Unfortunately there was a lot of great talent from other teams so there will be replacements with stronger talent. That's with every team. Otherwise why would Express even have tryouts?
Finally...someone with a sane statement...the purpose of tryouts is to improve the team ...it's the ultate goal of each organization!!the constant team bashing is ridiculous and is usually made by a parent that needs to get outside and practice more with their kid
There will be a lot of new faces on all club teams this year including Legacy and True Blue. theres always players moving around...... team wasn't good, parents not happy, team folded and simply kids being replaced. Just life in travel lacrosse. And I'd be elated too if my son got called and I could end the tryout madness! Who wants to be doing this in September!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there so many posts on Igloo? who cares. Their two coaches from last year aren't even coaching this team. You now have two new unproven assistant coaches this year. The news should really be about teams that have proven coaches who are still with the team from the beginning. I only know of 3 top club teams with great coaches who are continuing with their team: Bandits, True Blue, Legacy
Every other top club has had changes in their coaching staff. A lot of kids have left the other clubs as well. Consistent Coaching is going to be the key factor this year.


Since when are True Blue and Legacy top clubs? Decent clubs, yes. Top clubs? No
Pat McCabe coaching ICON 2023. That team will be well coached.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pat McCabe coaching ICON 2023. That team will be well coached.


Icon site shows that he is the founder and director. Where does it show he will be coaching 2023?
He has become a [lacrosse]. He'll put his name on a team/camp and stays away. Girls lacrosse is his thing now.
Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?


National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.
After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?


National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.



wrong coach stupid. mcabe is at adelphi. college is not 7th grade world series.
Icon looked solid. Played all b tourneys i think and won big for the most part. per 2 separate parents on the team, one said they should play in an a bracket and challenge themselves instead of rolling lower teams. other parent said they were upset they practiced very little.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?


yes, you just have to wade through verbal sewage to find them.
TRUE BLUE NEWS!!



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TRUE BLUE LACROSSE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
After reading a plethora of comments on this forum I have to ask, are there any decent teams out there?


yes, you just have to wade through verbal sewage to find them.


LMAO!
All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number


Don't worry...there won't be any Walkups. Bluefish are taking the few kids you had
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All walk ups for the Long Island Bengals will need to have their U.S. lacrosse number


Don't worry...there won't be any Walkups. Bluefish are taking the few kids you had


that doesn't bode well for the bluefish if they need to take anyone from the bengals. their skill level was pretty low except for maybe a couple kids. however it was the bengals first year, and i imagine a new startup is always tough in the beginning.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just won a National Championship. Not bad for a [lacrosse]...
Are there a lot of club guys out there doing that?


National championship of 7th grade lax. lol!!! Good coach but you sound like a loser when you say shi$ like that.



wrong coach stupid. mcabe is at adelphi. college is not 7th grade world series.


Oh right the womens title. Very impressive and relevant to 5th grade boys
Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck
Anyone looking for a great coach and a team on it's way up should consider the True Blue tryout this weekend. It should be very competitive with the Massapequa kids returning. The Coach plans to take this team all the way through to HS so you won't have to worry about a coaching carousel like a lot of these other teams.
Anybody could have taken over that AU team and won a national championship. PM coaches every team with ICON he's all over the place. Oh I forget and he's the head coach at AU. Oh and I forgot again he has a full time job. Oh yea and lets not forget all his camps. OH yea let not miss out on box training he does, Oh also he's a dad. This guys all the place.
Express tryouts last night. Any feedback?? I heard that almost all the HB's showed up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck

They will have to merge with someone to survive. I'm not even sure they will have to same amount of teams this year. Can't see any parents going back
PM is a good guy & good coach but he is all over the place & not thinking straight. He doesn't want to loose kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone looking for a great coach and a team on it's way up should consider the True Blue tryout this weekend. It should be very competitive with the Massapequa kids returning. The Coach plans to take this team all the way through to HS so you won't have to worry about a coaching carousel like a lot of these other teams.


Probably have to worry about the parents of the Massapequa kids that are returning causing issues and complaining about the club. Why did they leave in the first place? Always very suspicious when a group of players leaves a club and then comes back. Supposedly the coaching is good but how much coaching can you do when you are coaching a college team at the same time? Only one coach on the sideline the two tournaments I saw them at.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express tryouts last night. Any feedback?? I heard that almost all the HB's showed up.


Saw the same. Even BM's kid was there. That team won't change that much. Will have to see if they can make a good run without him coaching. If his kid is playing you know for sure he'll be involved.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck


we played them at a tourney at st pauls in garden city in the rain. i just remember one or 2 kids on attack or middie that could handle the ball, and the goalie yelling at the team to help. everyone else just kind of stood around. with that being said, everyone has to start somewhere, and there should be places for kids of all skill level to play. as long as the coaches and organization do the right things along the way. unless the parents on the team have something to say, why make a comment about why parents would send their kids back? if they were happy, while maybe not successful, let them be.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Walk ups for bengals r u kidding. Only thing walking up is crickets....They will have 3 boys teams again because the directors all have a kid that age and the same for the one girls team. Played one of there teams this year at a tourney and a complete joke. If a parent goes back to that for another year they should be reported to child services for abuse. The directors are all teachers don't give up your day job please.Good Luck


we played them at a tourney at st pauls in garden city in the rain. i just remember one or 2 kids on attack or middie that could handle the ball, and the goalie yelling at the team to help. everyone else just kind of stood around. with that being said, everyone has to start somewhere, and there should be places for kids of all skill level to play. as long as the coaches and organization do the right things along the way. unless the parents on the team have something to say, why make a comment about why parents would send their kids back? if they were happy, while maybe not successful, let them be.

There are camps and clinics for that. You don't need to be paying $1300 to play in a few town tourneys.
Massapequa kids left because their coach became HC of Hurricanes. They also didn't know at the time that JC from Adelphi would be HC of True Blue. Talent at this age group is getting too watered down so they decided to come back with their coach and build a strong A team. Get on the train before it leaves the station and there are no seats left!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Massapequa kids left because their coach became HC of Hurricanes. They also didn't know at the time that JC from Adelphi would be HC of True Blue. Talent at this age group is getting too watered down so they decided to come back with their coach and build a strong A team. Get on the train before it leaves the station and there are no seats left!


Hurricanes! Yeah, that worked out well for you! So the grass wasn't greener on the other side! Back to True Blue this year and then where to next year when you think you see greener pastures somewhere else? If you've been around the travel scene long enough, you will have seen this kind of group before, never happy and then they turn into a cancer on the sidelines and destroy a good thing. Good luck with this group True Blue!!
Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.
Are express team 2 results out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.


Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.


Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.

What team is your son on?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesnt look like that train ride going so well so far. Surprised if the whole group follows again.maybe it's not the organizations after all! Why would TB even take them back? Doesn't sound like a healthy group for any organizarion.

Tryouts looked great today. Serious talent showed up. Looked like a whole new group of kids with awesome skills. I was told that the Adelphi coach is taking these kids all the way through high school. If my son makes the team I think this will be a VERY competitive "A" team.


Puhlease. TB is a joke at all ages. Only a small group from the south shore thinks otherwise. Rest don't take this team seriously.

What team is your son on?
How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater
Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks
Your kid must have been cut. Otherwise you would have attached a name. Good luck. I k is my kid had a amazing experience and was taught the game. Much rather be on someone's A team than someone's C
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Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.


Please tell me that this is just a rumor. Why would a club allow older kids on a younger team? I only see this as possible if the club advertises and plays by the USL guidelines and doesn't play on grade based tournaments. That said- don't call the team 2022 or 2023- call it a U-whatever.
Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any body know how many legitimate 2022 kids Igloo is taking on their 2023 team this year? Same kids as last year? Think it was 1 or 2. Not counting holdbacks. Just kids playing a grade down. Thanks

It's funny that you say that. My son went to a lax camp this year and met a couple of 6th graders. He saw them at 2023 Igloo tryouts and I had to spend all day telling my 10 year old how people cheat in life and its not fair, but keep doing the right thing yourself. Our family doesn't cheat!!! It's funny how kids cough up the unethical behavior of their parents.
Way to go AA of Igloo for allowing this to happen. Another year of rigged tryouts.


Please tell me that this is just a rumor. Why would a club allow older kids on a younger team? I only see this as possible if the club advertises and plays by the USL guidelines and doesn't play on grade based tournaments. That said- don't call the team 2022 or 2023- call it a U-whatever.


They may be using the u model, which is actually better that what is going on now in lacrosse!
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Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.


If he is born after sept 1st that is fine
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.


If he is born after sept 1st that is fine


Yes, that's fine as long as you're bringing him to a 2022 tryout. Otherwise, he's just a crappy 6th grader that can't cut it playing with kids his own age.
It goes back to the holdback issue. Almost all teams in Maryland and North Carolina are majority hold backs-- like the other poster said-- until US Lacrosse makes changes-- it's more the rule than the exception these days.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone didn't make igloo...all teams have kids playing down....until us lacrosse mandates u under it will be this way!

Oh, ok. I'll have my 6th grader tryout for the Bandits so he can make the team. Good idea Igloo parent.


If he is born after sept 1st that is fine


Yes, that's fine as long as you're bringing him to a 2022 tryout. Otherwise, he's just a crappy 6th grader that can't cut it playing with kids his own age.


I think it's ok if the team plays u based tourneys which most are outside ny.
Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.
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How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater


Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams
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Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.

Ha! Forfeit 4th grade wins. Can't wait for the espn 30:30 on that one.
Sorry. I forgot they don't teach integrity in Manhasset until 6th grade.
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Maybe. But then don't call yourself a 2023 team. Either be a grade-based team and take grade appropriate holdbacks but not older grade kids. Or be a U-based team and take age appropriate kids irrespective of grade. Can't do both legitimately. If igloo kids were playing down a grade then team should forfeit those grade based tourney wins on website. Period.


There weren't that many
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater


Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams


Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.
Any word on the 2023 Express and True Blue teams?
What are the teams for Express 2023?
Is True Blue having two teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater


Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams


Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.

What team is your son on coward? The question was asked by several people. There are multiple D1 commits. Anyway, this is a 2023 post. JC is coaching this 2023 True Blue "A" team, and from what I saw this A team is going to be very good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How could it be a joke when my son plays for the 2017 team and they already have 11 kids committed to top 10 Division I schools West Point, navy, maryland, hobar, Yale etc. stop being such a hater


Stop it ! That team does not have 11 D1 commits ! That is an absolute lie and that team never played against any of the top level '17 teams


Again, take this argument to the south shore 516. Nobody else cares. Club is irrelevant. Same as last year, tons of talk on the boards around tryouts and then nothing all year....because nobody cares.

What team is your son on coward? The question was asked by several people. There are multiple D1 commits. Anyway, this is a 2023 post. JC is coaching this 2023 True Blue "A" team, and from what I saw this A team is going to be very good.



A team? Lol!!! Not even in top 6 or 7
Last year they couldn't even field a full 4 th grade team. This year they are an "A" team?????? Cmon guy. Get real.
Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.
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Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.


Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.


Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.


Are we arguing about LI Express here?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.


Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.

From speaking with the parents, a lot of the new faces were not cut from other clubs. Most of the top kids were tired of the BS at other clubs, wanted real coaching, or happen to live nearby and were tired of traveling.

Too bad you're afraid to post the team your kid plays on.
Did DK go back to express?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right guy. Local lax Guru. When they play you guys you can judge for yourself. They made nice upgrades with some talented kids..See you soon enough.


Adding a few kids that got cut from true A teams doesn't make you an A team.


Are we arguing about LI Express here?

True Blue
Ok Lax Guru. what does make an A team at 5th grade level...Lets here from the ever knowing lax daddy..
hear not here..Go back to school with your kid
Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...
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Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.


Select A??? Why is it select? Just to make it sound better??
They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anybody know how many teams True Blue is doing for fifth grade and did anyone get phone calls yet ...

They are taking 2 teams: one select A, and B.
Joe Cat is coaching the A.


Select A??? Why is it select? Just to make it sound better??


Seems to be the path most clubs are going. everyone using the select title this year
So I guess JC coaching two team he's coaching 4 grade too..
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So I guess JC coaching two team he's coaching 4 grade too..

nope. coaching 1 team only: 2023 "A"
And Adelphi....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.


Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?
you must care as you are on here...
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you must care as you are on here...


Again nobody cares about true blue except for 30 people who prob all live two towns apart off the sunrise highway. This nonsense happens every year around tryouts and then you never hear from anyone again because THEY ARE IRRELEVANT.

Look forward to hearing from you again next tryout season.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.


Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?

Nobody is writing about your club. You must be lonely, but most likely your kid got cut. Move on, there are a few new clubs left for him to try and get onto.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
you must care as you are on here...


Again nobody cares about true blue except for 30 people who prob all live two towns apart off the sunrise highway. This nonsense happens every year around tryouts and then you never hear from anyone again because THEY ARE IRRELEVANT.

Look forward to hearing from you again next tryout season.


What kills me is that you are the same person smack talking TB.. Get a life.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are def doing 2. A and B..Calls are being done today and tomorrow..lot of good kids there.


Omg, can the true blue thread please stop. nobody cares. Select A? I mean that is plain embarrassing. They didn't even have a team last year and now two teams with one being select?

Nobody is writing about your club. You must be lonely, but most likely your kid got cut. Move on, there are a few new clubs left for him to try and get onto.


Impossible because nobody gets cut from true blue
With 40 kids at tryouts it would make sense. 2 teams of 20. Except when they make calls and find out half the kids already accepted spots on other club teams. Then they will be back to one mediocre team.
Top 5 2023 teams?
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Top 5 2023 teams?
. My crystal ball is on the fritz but my guess. 1 Norte Dame 2 Duke. 3 Syracuse 4 Denver 5 Cornell. 2023 is a ling way off but I think this is a good bet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 5 2023 teams?
. My crystal ball is on the fritz but my guess. 1 Norte Dame 2 Duke. 3 Syracuse 4 Denver 5 Cornell. 2023 is a ling way off but I think this is a good bet.


Well played...
Question does anyone know if there's any other tryouts coming up for fifth grade boys or is tryouts for all teams ...Thanks
So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question does anyone know if there's any other tryouts coming up for fifth grade boys or is tryouts for all teams ...Thanks

365Lax tryouts is coming up this Monday.
Bluefish Sept 13
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So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.



What a moron you are. Brilliant analysis of teams that haven't even played together yet. How do you know what players are on all of these teams when the parents that have kids on the teams don't even have full rosters? I think it is well established that the Bandits are the best team in the grade, but to call every other team a "B" team is incredibly unfair to the boys on those teams (Express, Igloo, Outlaws, amongst others) that practice hard all year long and have proven that they are not in the same class as true "B" teams (Hurricanes, Icon, Millon, Empire). Do the rest of us a favor and keep your stupidity to yourself until at least after the fall when these teams have all been established and have a few practices under their belts.
Anyone have an idea on how many new kids they took on Express 1?

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So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express kept pretty much the same team as last year which means they will keep getting killed by the Bandits! Igloo made huge changes which will probably set that team back. 32 is a shell if at all. So it would be safe to assume that it's the Bandits A team and everyone else is just a B team.
Will the Bandits be called a 2023 team? I know they aren't U11. Anyone know anything about the new select team out of Rockville Ctr? Shore to Shore?
YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON
Moderator, do you know of any clubs that are still looking to fill a roster for 5th grade?
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Moderator, do you know of any clubs that are still looking to fill a roster for 5th grade?


Send me a PM and I will help you out.
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YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YEAH MORON THE OTHERS TEAMS ARE B TEAMS, IDIOT, WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT TEAM YOUR SON IS ON


Go ahead and tell me what team you "imagine" my son is on. My son loves playing on the team he's on. He plays on a team with a group of great boys who are supported by wonderful parents and who are coached by men who teach them not only the game of lacrosse, but valuable life lessons, something you obviously did not have the benefit of growing up. Please, please make sure to respond because we would all love to hear some additional brilliant insight into the landscape of 5th grade boys lacrosse from you. And please make sure you respond in ALL CAPS again so that you can be sure that whatever your next ludicrous message is gets across loud and clear.
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!
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ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!


Outlaws b. Better club. The outlaw b team will beat true blue a in a game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

True Blue, especially if Joe Cat is coaching
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.
Go with the proven Club. Outlaws did very well last year and solid coaching. TB was a combined 3/4 C team last year. Not sure how they can say this year they are an A team. Especially if they don't have all their commits yet.
My friends son is on the fourth grade team and Joe is coaching that team too.So I would say he is going to need help from other coaches because he has two team And Coach Ed Cook son is on that team.. So he might be right ...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.


That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.


That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!

Way to put grumpy in his place. The other posters are right though. Joe Cat is a fantastic youth lacrosse coach.
My advice to you is go where your son feels like its a better fit they are both good teams. Maybe he knows a kid or two on one of the teams, that always helps. Your absolutely right to bring up that you were coming here for guidance on a 10 year old team. The problem is you came here, where any tool with a computer can type a wiseass reply to you as evidence above.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

Your son didn't make True Blue 2023 otherwise you would know that the coach is Joe Cat.


That would be a strange thing to be dishonest about. The TB coach did call this evening. As a mom who brought her son to these tryouts I would love to say I remember the coaches names but I do not. I recall meeting Ed Cook. You're telling me it's this other guy, ok, awesome. It means nothing to me as I do not know anything about these teams or coaches. I was looking for guidance, not to be challenged on the validity of a 10 year old making a lax team. Who would lie about something so insignificant?!

Way to put grumpy in his place. The other posters are right though. Joe Cat is a fantastic youth lacrosse coach.


Thank you very much. I feel better hearing some positive feedback!
Also take into account location. Depending on where you live, driving to all those practices. If you fell both clubs are similar, keep in mind all the back and forth location wise
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!

If you live in Massapequa then True Blue is the team for you. They don't want outsiders to ruin their local High School farm system.
Outlaws don't have bias on players from towns outside of their area.
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My advice to you is go where your son feels like its a better fit they are both good teams. Maybe he knows a kid or two on one of the teams, that always helps. Your absolutely right to bring up that you were coming here for guidance on a 10 year old team. The problem is you came here, where any tool with a computer can type a wiseass reply to you as evidence above.


Lol. It seems that anonymity allows some individuals to lose all social etiquette. Thanks for the sound advice!
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Also take into account location. Depending on where you live, driving to all those practices. If you fell both clubs are similar, keep in mind all the back and forth location wise


Solid point, thanks!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
ADVICE:
My 2023 son made the outlaws B team and True Blues A team. Any feedback on either of these programs? All I know is that Bobby Rooney & Pat Brennan are coaching outlaws and Ed Cook & ? will coach TB. Can anyone recommend any of these coaches? Thanks in advance!


If you live in Massapequa then True Blue is the team for you. They don't want outsiders to ruin their local High School farm system.
Outlaws don't have bias on players from towns outside of their area.


Gotcha! Lots of variables with this stuff. I do not live in Massapequa, I'm on the North Shore closer to Huntington. Thanks for the insight!

I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.
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I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.


Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws
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Will the Bandits be called a 2023 team? I know they aren't U11. Anyone know anything about the new select team out of Rockville Ctr? Shore to Shore?


I think Shore to Shore is mostly Manhasset 32 with some RVC kids and some other kids sprinkled in...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.


Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you
I think you're mistaken about Shore to Shore, Igloo is the team that is mostly Manhasset 32 with a few other kids sprinkled in.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.


Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you


Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.
And yes it was a combined team last year of third and fourth graders for TrueBlue...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.


Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you


Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.


If your talking about the JDRF game. What was the score. Hurricanes did not win that game. they played very good against outlaws in one of the first tournaments of the year. But hurricanes are not a good team. This is evident by them practically folding and starting over.
Actually, I saw that game and was suprised that the Hurricanes beat the Outlaws...
Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?



True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?



True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.


I was told one person is coaching 2023 black and that's the only coach that I have heard about for that team. There has been no change in coaching for that team. Where did you get that information from? I also wanted my son to tryout for True Blue, however after numerous emails and no answer I figured, how difficult can it be to answer a customer without his money and how difficult it will be after you had his money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why would the Hurricanes come back to True Blue if they had a good team and could beat the Outlaws A team?



True Blue offered the Hurricane parents better tents for the tournament that wouldn't get blown away.


I was told one person is coaching 2023 black and that's the only coach that I have heard about for that team. There has been no change in coaching for that team. Where did you get that information from? I also wanted my son to tryout for True Blue, however after numerous emails and no answer I figured, how difficult can it be to answer a customer without his money and how difficult it will be after you had his money.

True Blue does not answer emails. There is very little communication from their camp. Their website doesn't even communicate info. It's a good Old boys club who only communicates if you live in Massapequa.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I feel like Outlaws is mostly Huntington based teams & TB is Massapequa. I'd go with Outlaws, if teams are similar. Especially if last year TB was a combined team. I don't like combined teams for travel lacrosse.


Team was not a combined team last year for true blue. Joe Catt is the coach for the 2023 A team for true blue and I believe cook is the Assisstant. I would not take the outlaws B team over the true blue team. b teams get less attention and you will pay 1k more with outlaws for less training. The 2023 true blue team will be a very good team this year most of the kids that left to go to the Hurricanes last year came back. That hurricanes team beat up on the outlaws A team last year.

As for coaching there is no comparison with what you get with joe cartt and Ed cook as coaches compared to what they give you at outlaws

Thanks true blue parent..as far as teams and coaching true blue was not very good last year the outlaws were good - as far as outlaws getting beat up by the hurricanes thats laughable. You have to do your homework and speak with the directors and the coaches, at the tryouts speak with parents about what they experienced last year and why and what is bringing them back. Good luck to you


Sorry outlaw parent but I watched the game you lost. this is 5 grade lacrosse no need to get defensive about it. feel free to tell any story you want but the score was the score.

As for TB they will be a much better team this year. the question was about deciding between a B team with outlaws or the A team with TB. the outlaws B teams last year were ignored why pay all the money when you can get better coaching elsewhere. just go to the outlaws news thread. there is already complaints about this team that they have changed coach's since the tryouts and after taking people's money. Not sure that is what you want to pay for.

Look forward to seeing what happens on the field. you can call your second team black all you want still is a B team.


Sorry true blue - no offense taken at all just stating what actually happened - outlaws didnt loose the game. This is the 1st year for a "B" team that is coached by the director and another - as stated on website and tryouts. Their have been no coaching changes as far as 2023 two teams just someone maybe misreading the site. My son made the "b" team after leaving another program (black-silver-grey-blue whatever dont get so hung up on a name) and we are looking forward to learning and having fun on a b team. I will take this program over true blue and its uncertainty.
Good luck to you
TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....
TB did not beat the Outlaws last year -- they lost. And I don't believe EC is the assistant. You may want to check that fact as well. If a Club is not being upfront and honest now, that's a good indicator on which way to go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....


Do you know if there is one or two teams for TB 2023.? Thought I heard them say they were considering having two as the tryouts yielded a lot of talented kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TB uncertainty? Not really sure where you are getting that. This is the 2 ms year with Cat at the controls and a lot of kids made monster improvement last year under him. It's true that last year there were a couple of stand out 3 graders on the team but this year they are all on the 2024 team. A lot of good teams have players that play up. Nothing new there. This years tryout had much better talent because a lot of people saw the great improvement that these kids made under Cat. If you think that your son is playing for a great coach then this shouldn't rattle you but if you are starting to realize that you are paying money for a father coach, a so so coach or college player with zero coaching background then I guess I know why there are so many haters!! See you at tryouts next year.....


No problem here at all- if you think that your son improved last year and the team got better then good luck at tb. You seem to believe in tb and stick up for their coaches and program by bashing another- good luck to you. As far as the outlaws never said how good or great coaches were i guess time will tell. The only hater seems to be you, did your son not make the black (yes B ) team, don't get all the hatred by you, have great winter and see you on the field next year.
So you say it wasn't a combined 3/4 team last year but you ARE saying there were a few "stand out" 3rd graders on the team last year. That would make it a combined team no??. And EC is not the assistant coach. I would be wary of any Club that can't be upfront and honest.
It was a combined team..Whomever said different does not know what they are talking about..EC was not the coach nor is he this year..He coaches a different grade..This year its all 5th. So start the hating with the correct info..
There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.

True Blue is jerking everybody around. There is no communication. At the tryouts Joe Cat told all the parents that they will be calling them and promised two teams. Most parents haven't heard anything and the team left th hanging again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are two 2023 teams for True Blue this year. I am under the impression Coach Cat is coaching the B team but could have gotten snowed on that.

True Blue is jerking everybody around. There is no communication. At the tryouts Joe Cat told all the parents that they will be calling them and promised two teams. Most parents haven't heard anything and the team left th hanging again.


I'm new to TB so I can not speak about your past experience with the team. I can say that I was notified by JC last night that my son made the 2023 A team. Today, I had additional questions, left a message and JC called me back with in 10 minutes. I was told that they are putting together a second team. Hope this information helps! Good luck.
If the outlaws are so good ..... How come they lost to South Shore Thunder and barely beat the Wantagh tribe while outlaws had to 11 year olds playing ..
so what is the big fall tournament where all the so called A teams play in?
If your son is on an A team you will know soon enough
365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.
A few of the shore to shore kids are 2022 Graduates so check them when you play them. Cheats
Originally Posted by Anonymous
365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

Yeah, I heard that the coaching staff is former St John's alumni and MLL, and NLL. I am bringing my son down for tryouts because I am looking for an alternative to the "Daddy coaches" and want unbiased quality development for my son.
E3 is Sept 14th
No true...some players played up last year. Team will be tough
Isn't shore to shot a new team? How do you know they have 2022 kids on the team?
Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few of the shore to shore kids are 2022 Graduates so check them when you play them. Cheats

integrity
Long Island bengals on September 20
Originally Posted by Anonymous
365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.
Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island bengals on September 20

They offering free tryouts because that's all they are worth
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever

Are you referring to the two Daddy coaches when you say 40 & 50 year olds?
Should have kept KC and DK. The only way this team could win anything is to go bigger with their pics.
True Blue said they are having two teams. I know calls went out for the A-Team for True Blue .Did anybody hear about the B team ...And who is coaching it ...Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Way to go igloo and soon to be Shore to Shore. Build your winning percentages and therefore your businesses through cheating. On the backs of 10-year-olds ...oops I mean 12 year olds. Take a long look in the mirror guys. Bunch of low IQ 40 and 50-year-old losers trying to finally make some big cash. Yeah! Come on kids lets get into lacrosse...we'll learn teamwork, sportsmanship, transparency..ah whatever


Hey how Are those drinks going for you. Starting the long weekend early huh?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue said they are having two teams. I know calls went out for the A-Team for True Blue .Did anybody hear about the B team ...And who is coaching it ...Thanks

There is no B team. It's pty promises again by Joe Cat. Nobody got any calls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
365Lax tryouts are on Monday. Still time to register.
Head coach is Tom Michaelsen the owner and great lax player. This is a great opportunity to get in on a new team with super coaching.

Yeah, I heard that the coaching staff is former St John's alumni and MLL, and NLL. I am bringing my son down for tryouts because I am looking for an alternative to the "Daddy coaches" and want unbiased quality development for my son.


Compare around there are a lot of teams with no daddy coaches they are not the only ones
Thoughts on Bluefish? George Powers coaching?
I was told they are having a B team ,they are working on it and putting it together ...
Amazing how people try to discredit others without any knowledge. Bengals tryouts are not free. They are $50. My son played on the 2021 team last year. 100% of those kids were at tryouts again. Yeah... Really terrible experience. Ask anyone from that team if there kid did not improve. They all did Bc it come down to who is coaching your kid. Not chasing the bumper sticker so dad can feel proud that his son is on the third team of a bigger organization and paying three times the amount. If you have nothing positive to say... Then you are not thinking long enough. Stop the negativity
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazing how people try to discredit others without any knowledge. Bengals tryouts are not free. They are $50. My son played on the 2021 team last year. 100% of those kids were at tryouts again. Yeah... Really terrible experience. Ask anyone from that team if there kid did not improve. They all did Bc it come down to who is coaching your kid. Not chasing the bumper sticker so dad can feel proud that his son is on the third team of a bigger organization and paying three times the amount. If you have nothing positive to say... Then you are not thinking long enough. Stop the negativity

Did the 2020's that played down all year come back too? Also, you know by now that kids already moved on to other programs. Good luck this year to whatever team your son plays on.
I hope he will be back with the 2021. At last tryout no one was moving on. They all were returning if they made the team. Thanks for your interest
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope he will be back with the 2021. At last tryout no one was moving on. They all were returning if they made the team. Thanks for your interest
so you hope the 2020's will be back with the 2021 team and you see nothing wrong with it? And they is part of the reason the Bengals are a joke.

Like I said, kids are moving on and there wasn't enough kids at tryouts to have anyone worry about "making it". Enjoy another season playing town tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.


Thanks great! My son is looking forward to playing with True Blue as well. Good Luck!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.



That means you're either lying or an idiot
Truthfully who cares about the kids grade?? I know it seems bad but if the kids are age appropriate given US lacrosse then the grade is irrelevant, it really should be about development and now winning. Its the kids who aren't age appropriate and being held back that are the safety issue, and there's plenty of them to go around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.



That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.



That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??


LOL! Nobody on earth is jealous of your true blue B invite. Sucker! Please let us all know how that goes. I mean the A team can't compete with B teams which makes the B team glorified PAL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.



That means you're either lying or an idiot

jealous??


LOL! Nobody on earth is jealous of your true blue B invite. Sucker! Please let us all know how that goes. I mean the A team can't compete with B teams which makes the B team glorified PAL

Yeah, well our True Blue B team is better than your sons team any day of the week. At tryouts, they weren't even evaluating. I'm sure the B team can beat the A team!! Plus, we were better last year than the new group of kids they chose.
Does fl$ have a 2023 team? Are they any good? Seems like they are having a very hard time with their younger teams....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does fl$ have a 2023 team? Are they any good? Seems like they are having a very hard time with their younger teams....


Yes...basically a lynbrook pal team. They will not be that good
In the past they have not had strong teams. However fl$'s 2023 team will be very interesting this year. They had huge numbers at their tryouts and only kept 3 kids from last year. That's a lot of upgrades. This will be a team to watch.
They are lying. TB doesnt have enough kids for 2 teams. A lot of the "A" kids they thought they had are going to other clubs. So they are back to digging to the bottom of the barrel. They just haven't told any of the parents yet.
They are calling kids for second team. That is a fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are lying. TB doesnt have enough kids for 2 teams. A lot of the "A" kids they thought they had are going to other clubs. So they are back to digging to the bottom of the barrel. They just haven't told any of the parents yet.

Yeah right. That is hilarious. Sounds like typical True Blue... Leave all the kids hanging and scrambling to find other teams to play on.

The previous post sounds more like accuracy that TB actually does have a B team, but they never told any of the parents who didn't make it.
What is all the talk about TB? I don't recall seeing them in any finals, any semi finals, and in any quality tourneys. Lot of meaningless chatter.
You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!
Let's talk about some positive things:
1) there are some new 2023 teams started by between clubs.
2) there are new clubs this year.
3) lacrosse is growing.
4) are any 2023 club teams still holding tryouts?
So a watered down product is good for Lacrosse?
Best post on this thread in a long time.
A lot of player movement among teams and new teams with interesting coaching staffs. Looks like it's gonna be a great season!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's talk about some positive things:
1) there are some new 2023 teams started by between clubs.
2) there are new clubs this year.
3) lacrosse is growing.
4) are any 2023 club teams still holding tryouts?


I heard 365Lax is starting a 5th grade team. The owner is the coach, and tryouts are still open. Bluefish has The Hofstra coach as it's Director. Revolution tryouts are coming up as well. Does anyone know of other clubs still holding tryouts?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So a watered down product is good for Lacrosse?


God forbid your awesome kid and awesome club have to deal with the lower peasants on the way to your air conditioned tents. More kids want to play let them play. More people want to launch a program that they think wiLloyd be better than current options, that's their business.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!


You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!


You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.

I also agree with more options. I'm tired of owners saying they will get your kid into college, but pay us $2,000 every year until high school ends. Guess what? the money hungry owners are full of sh**. I want my son to be coached correctly with the right skill development and lax IQ. If he makes it to D1 great, otherwise he's going to a great college, he'll be a starter, and then he'll get a great career! You can now find these clubs and coaches for under 2k, and your son will play more lacrosse than the high price bumper sticker,shiny uniform/nice tent club. Do your research on the new 5th grade teams, you'll be amazed at some great coaching that's out there, and it's not Express, 91, or Igloo.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right. We should talk about how igloo brought in 2 new coaches and a bunch of kids left because the coaches brought in their own players who are not better. We could also talk about how Express through BM under the bus And made his assistant coach now the head with very little experience. I am sure those crazy parents will want him out next when the Bandits crush them again. Then you have the outlaws who decided to make a select team this year without telling the parents so when they said yes to the black team they were really on the B team? Nice move. Last years Black team wasn't good enough to make a select team so why bother? And lastly you could talk about the best team the Bandits who will all be burnt out by 9 th grade!!


You forgot about Legacy not even having enough players to field two teams and BARELY having enough kids for one. They were bad last year and just got worse. I'm starting to think the big name teams are a waste of time. How many teams have the same full coaching staff from last season? How many teams legitimately improved? I'm sure kids having more options for teams is a good thing. Some say watering down, but I disagree. If coaches stayed with their teams and teams stayed together they will be dominant. There are a few, but the number is decreasing annually. Everybody is looking for the big payout.

I also agree with more options. I'm tired of owners saying they will get your kid into college, but pay us $2,000 every year until high school ends. Guess what? the money hungry owners are full of sh**. I want my son to be coached correctly with the right skill development and lax IQ. If he makes it to D1 great, otherwise he's going to a great college, he'll be a starter, and then he'll get a great career! You can now find these clubs and coaches for under 2k, and your son will play more lacrosse than the high price bumper sticker,shiny uniform/nice tent club. Do your research on the new 5th grade teams, you'll be amazed at some great coaching that's out there, and it's not Express, 91, or Igloo.


I agree. My concerns for my 10 year old are that 1. he enjoys the experience and 2. He has a great coach who helps him develop and expand upon his skills. Other than that I have no expectations for his future....he's ten! I don't even remember what I wanted to do when I was 10 but I know I didn't go to college for it. I did get in on an educational scholarship though. I push the educational aspect and if he wants to play lax or football in college that's a nice bonus.
Sounds like a cheater justifiying the slimy ways of fellow cesspool dwellers. Who taught you guys about morals? It must be a tough life when your only success in life is a picture on a website showing your fantastic tournament win done thru cheating in full view of and with complicity of 10 year olds. Way to go, failure.
wth r u talking about!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like a cheater justifiying the slimy ways of fellow cesspool dwellers. Who taught you guys about morals? It must be a tough life when your only success in life is a picture on a website showing your fantastic tournament win done thru cheating in full view of and with complicity of 10 year olds. Way to go, failure.


Wow. Who invited crazy to the party?
There are a lot of wrongs in lacrosse. Across the board and up and down the east coast. Go to Maryland which is U based and your son will play against 7 th graders. There are plenty of good clubs out there. Many that don't leave LI. Something tells me though your such a bitter person no Club will make you happy. Maybe you should go back to baseball
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.


Every single player on Shore to Shore is 2023. The 1 player on Igloo last year that was a 2022 is not on Shore to Shore...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Obvious isn't it? Shore to Shore has same coach as Igloo did last year. Igloo had 2022 kids play on their 2023 team last year. Coach takes same older kids with him to Shore to Shore. Dirty. But not a mystery.


Every single player on Shore to Shore is 2023. The 1 player on Igloo last year that was a 2022 is not on Shore to Shore...

Anymore...
Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!

365Lax
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?


No he did not. And don't let anyone fool you--- he'll be on the STS sideline -- he's staying with his coach
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...


Igloo and Legacy both took a very big step back due to inconsitancies with their coaching. Igloo kids were trying out for every team under the sun to get away and Legacy lost so many kids that they needed to combine thier A and B teams. Both teams had some good showings last season. I don't think they won anything, that I can recall, but that's not necessarily the metric of quality. At least it's not the only one. They will still be middle of the pack, though.
Lol. That's funny

PW dad here. I thought team 32 was one of the best 2023 teams anywhere. They couldn't beat the Bandits, but they almost beat the HB's and owned Igloo. Aren't the 32 kids that did not go to igloo going to STS? 32 is just a town team now. The politics were supposedly crazy. Town elite travel teams are quickly fading. The older the kids get, and the closer they get to HS, the more important it is to get your A player kid on a travel squad. If you play for Express, for example, you will be seen by the Chaminade, Kellenberg and St Ant.'s coaches. If you play for fl$, then.....?
Amen. MANHASSETT = TOOLBAGS
Team 32 was a very good team. It's a shame to see that team breakup. They gave HBs a good run for their money and had excellent games with Igloo ( they won some and lost some -- youth lax at its best). It will be an interesting year to see how all the teams recover from the drama. No one will know for sure until the fall tourneys start. Only sure bet is the Bandits will stay on top.
Finally a truthful statement
PW Dad: Igloo Dad here.

Almost?? They lost by 3 goals. Badgers got off to a slow start that game and 32 couldn't keep up when HB's got in gear. Another half and 32 loses by 7/8 goals. Manhassett is overrated. Dad's are full of themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...


Unheard of everyone knows Santa Clause and his little elf's ......... unheard of Your mean
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did that one 2022 player go back to Igloo 2023? Did they take other 2022s?

who cares about Igloo 2023. their tryouts are rigged, the two previous amazing coaches are gone, they kept some of the kids that are PAL quality. the new coaches are unheard of, etc...


SH is far from unheard of. Shows how little you know.
Someone's son did not make the team
"PAL Quality" - now there's a new one... u a-hole
Originally Posted by Anonymous
PW Dad: Igloo Dad here.

Almost?? They lost by 3 goals. Badgers got off to a slow start that game and 32 couldn't keep up when HB's got in gear. Another half and 32 loses by 7/8 goals. Manhassett is overrated. Dad's are full of themselves.


Play another half?? Overrated?? What the heck are you talking about. Certainly not 9yr old lax
Does anyone know If True Blue is having two teams this year and who is coaching each team.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know If True Blue is having two teams this year and who is coaching each team.....


Coach Cat. is coaching a 2023 team. I'm not sure if there are two teams though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are there any decent organizations out there? If so which ones?!

365Lax


They're usually decent but sometimes have numbers issues with their teams when it comes to tournaments.
True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

I will ask a few kids in town if they are interested.
Who is the coach going to be?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

A couple of Middies short? Are you kidding me? You can't run a team on minimum of 16 players and borrow a few from the other team for a tourney? I wish teams would stop the madness with trying to money grab and play with who they have!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue is close to adding a 2 nd team just a couple of middies short so if anyone is interested email True Blue.

A couple of Middies short? Are you kidding me? You can't run a team on minimum of 16 players and borrow a few from the other team for a tourney? I wish teams would stop the madness with trying to money grab and play with who they have!!


Uuuummmm, no. Actually, you can't grab a couple of kids from the other team for tournaments. That would be considered cheating. I'd rather they go the money grab route. It's more honest
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?
Most of those kids have been waiting for a response from true blue about filling up the rest of the B team, but no responce, they only had 13 and i know that at least 4 have moved on, they had all defence and attack, no middies. so they are at least down to 9 from the original B team unless they found some more
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Most of those kids have been waiting for a response from true blue about filling up the rest of the B team, but no responce, they only had 13 and i know that at least 4 have moved on, they had all defence and attack, no middies. so they are at least down to 9 from the original B team unless they found some more

True Blue handled this without class. Joe Cat said to the parents at tryout that he was taking our returning players by having his assistant coach the 2nd team. Turns out far from the truth. Then they send out an email telling the parents a week later that their kid didn't make the team. Then they call and tell the parent that they want your kid.
There's a reason why the kids moved on and will not come back.
Loyalty works both ways. You're never getting our money again.
Hows that B team working out, have you heard anything yetbfrom true blue, no communication, i am taking my son elsewhere
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We just got the call from Tru Blue for the B team. My son has been waiting for a week and couldn't wait any longer. We were just about to accept with an A club but now we're excited to be on True Blue B.



How's that working out for you?
It faded because one of the dad/coaches needed to have MORE. More playing time for his lil player, more credit, more, more, more, But I'm glad he's gone and am looking forward to s2s
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.


Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.


Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--


extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.
not when it affects the line up--- pay for play



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.


Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--


extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not when it affects the line up--- pay for play



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.


Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--


extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.


It called a BRIBE !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not when it affects the line up--- pay for play



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
whats up with club team coaches, coaching their players on the side---
NOT COOL
what's with the cryptic message? Nobody knows what you are talking about.


Club coaches giving private lessons to boys on their team--


extra work for extra pay, I'm ok with it. Is it free and only for a select few? Maybe not ok then. Is there a kid who just needs the extra work to keep up and it is best done out of the regular practice environment? that is OK by me too.

it all depends.

What club is doing this?
I know BM used to do it on Express. Cash only, no checks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


I'm happy that my son is going twice per week. So is he!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


It definitely seems like teams are getting started earlier. 91 is going full force. And I hear legacy and Empire are too. Should be a competitive fall season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


It definitely seems like teams are getting started earlier. 91 is going full force. And I hear legacy and Empire are too. Should be a competitive fall season.


Practice makes perfect....the saying goes
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3


Lots of research against early specialization. That's fine for an in season schedule. But to have elementary school kids do that year round is essentially precluding them from other sports. Yes it's happening in other sports like soccer but it's not good for those kids either. I have 2 in high school and two younger ones. The club stuff and intense commitment is coming earlier and earlier. Very few kids benefit from that in the long run but it's a great way to create super teams in youth lax. I see some kids in high school viewing the game almost like a job rather than a passion. And those kids didn't start the club circuit until 5th/6th. I just think it's too much too soon. Maybe I'm the minority.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


wow. 2x week in the fall at 5th grade? long term payoff potential is not equal to the potential burnout factor. Good for winning 5th grade tournaments though.


When is it OK to practice 2x a week in the fall? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious on your thoughts. They're not babies anymore. These boys have been, for the most part, playing lax for 4-5 years now. Some have been playing travel for 2-3. I see Baseball, Wrestling, Hockey and Soccer practicing a few times a week (year round now). I'm OK with doing it with lax. The way I see it, if your kid wants to do it, let him. If he's fighting you to go to practice, you're not long for the team anyway. My only concern is that it really interferes with the boy's football schedules. That should come first in the fall since it's not played in any other season on LI.

It's perfectly fine to practice 2-3 days per week if there is no other sport involved. There is no burnout when you mix up the training during the week. Ex. shooting/feeding day 1, dodging day 2, IQ:offense/defense/fast breaks/clearing day 3


Lots of research against early specialization. That's fine for an in season schedule. But to have elementary school kids do that year round is essentially precluding them from other sports. Yes it's happening in other sports like soccer but it's not good for those kids either. I have 2 in high school and two younger ones. The club stuff and intense commitment is coming earlier and earlier. Very few kids benefit from that in the long run but it's a great way to create super teams in youth lax. I see some kids in high school viewing the game almost like a job rather than a passion. And those kids didn't start the club circuit until 5th/6th. I just think it's too much too soon. Maybe I'm the minority.


My son plays football, basketball and lax. We are also avid skiers. Things get busy, but we make it work and he enjoys all of his activities. With that being said, travel teams are tournament teams. Tournaments are played to win. If a team wants to be the best team (the goal of every team), they will be judged by tournament and head to head wins. These wins only come via practice. The more tournaments a team wins, the more kids will want to play for that team, the better the team gets.
What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


Outlaws had 1 practice. New head coach wasn't there and PB came late. Not exactly a ideal start.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many teams are practicing already? I don't mean had one practice, but are going weekly?


From what I've heard Legacy (2x a week), Outlaws (1X a week), Empire (1x a week) and Warriors (2X a week) are practicing. I'm sure Bandits and Badgers are, just don't know how often.


Outlaws had 1 practice. New head coach wasn't there and PB came late. Not exactly a ideal start.

Unless you are new and didn't know, then Get used to it!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?


Invite only, top secret.
I'm amazed at the posts stating that winning travel tournaments is the #1 goal of some of these top clubs and their parents.
Not what 5th grade travel lacrosse is supposed to be about.
Development, life skills and a positive experience is what is supposed to be gained. Not only wins.
The win at all cost attitude is ruining many kids, their parents relationship with those kids and our sport.
Hop, so true and so sad. Too many parents are using the club their kids play on and how well they do as a way of keeping score. We actually had dads last year bet on whose kid scored more goals in a tournament, same team.. and told their kids they were betting. Could have been "a sign of the apocalypse" story.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Old screamer from igloo is the coach and the 32 kids that did not go Igloo. Throw in a few HB's and some Rock Ctr kids and you have a wonderful sausage of a team.
No HBs went to STS and only a handful of 32 kids went.
Will they challenge the Banditos? Can they keep up? Is that the idea?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No HBs went to STS and only a handful of 32 kids went.

Right. Only a handful of 32 kids because Igloo took 10 of them. 32 only had 15 kids last year. I think your wrong on the HB post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Shore 2 Shore? Is it just a version of 32.? Is 32 no Ionger a program?

Old screamer from igloo is the coach and the 32 kids that did not go Igloo. Throw in a few HB's and some Rock Ctr kids and you have a wonderful sausage of a team.


Yep, DK is the only lax coach to ever yell at a kid for screwing up a play. Igloo parents are so sensitive, can't wait to see PS and SH throw a bouquet of roses at the first kid who makes a mistake. You want to compete with the Bandits and Express but you expect your coach to carry himself like a nursery school teacher. Good luck. You got what you wanted, DK is gone. Leave the man be and worry about your own team. I've got a feeling you'll find plenty to complain about under the new regime.
I hear express has two a teams in this age group
Who's doing what tournaments this fall???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hear express has two a teams in this age group


You hear that or you took a 5 second look at their website to fine that out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hear express has two a teams in this age group


Three actually. 2 a teams
Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.
does anyone know what team 91 national is?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.


There are three express team in bracket, but express haugen is in 2022. Are they playing up? In 2023 there is Chaney, chaney 2 and white. Are one of those Haugens team going under a different name to play in both brackets? 2022 is playing later in the day. Don't see express having 4 2023 teams. Looks like a competitive bracket. Not sure of 91 warriors, legacy, express white doing much. Should come down to outlaws, igloo and one of the chaneys (if they are Haugens team/old honey badgers)
That is not correct I know 2 HBs that went
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is not correct I know 2 HBs that went


What is not correct? Whom are you answering too?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anyone know what team 91 national is?
91 Tri State
I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ive heard 3 Express teams, Igloo, Outlaws, Legacy and 91.


There are three express team in bracket, but express haugen is in 2022. Are they playing up? In 2023 there is Chaney, chaney 2 and white. Are one of those Haugens team going under a different name to play in both brackets? 2022 is playing later in the day. Don't see express having 4 2023 teams. Looks like a competitive bracket. Not sure of 91 warriors, legacy, express white doing much. Should come down to outlaws, igloo and one of the chaneys (if they are Haugens team/old honey badgers)


Where did you see a schedule?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?


Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.
A lot of express teams. Maybe a mistake. No way they have 4 right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?


Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.


Could it be they swapped 2023 Haugen and 2022 Channy in error??? Where's the schedule posted?
There is only one Channy 2023 team and one Channy 2022 team. I smell a scam.
Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time


The 2022 bracket also has two chaneys plus the haugen and a lynott. So that's 7 express teams between 2022 and 2023.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time


Look through the age groups. There are like 57 Express teams playing. I'm calling [lacrosse] already. Back of the Cage, after last year, aren't you the tourney police? Any comment from Legacy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Or its the same old express - have players play on one team all while playing for a second team usually in a lower division just so they can get their t-shirt at the end of the day. They swap players on teams all the time



who doesnt
2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022


Right, Soooooo why do both divisions have a Channy 2 team? What team is that? No such team is listed on their website. Assuming it's either 22 playing down in 2023 and the 2023 playing up in 2022? Explain how that works please...
Well then who is team channy 2 in 2022?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 has 3 teams, team haugen (honey badgers)team channy and team white. Team haugen is playing 2022 with channy 2022


There are two Chaney teams in 2023 bracket and a white. Then what makes up the two chaneys. Are they splitting the Chaney team for tournament or as in original question, is Haugens team going under the name Chaney for 2023 bracket and haugen for 2022 bracket? Simple question seems very hard to explain.
Where is this schedule you are looking at????
Originally Posted by poppa17
Where is this schedule you are looking at????




Either way, Express is cheating and Legacy seems to be fine with it. Since you can't have kids on the roster of multiple teams, and they definitely don't have that many teams, they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Legacy is letting them do it too which is just as bad. That program is really falling hard. First tourney of the year and this is how both clubs want to start? Disgraceful by both of them.
Where do you find the schedule?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by poppa17
Where is this schedule you are looking at????




Either way, Express is cheating and Legacy seems to be fine with it. Since you can't have kids on the roster of multiple teams, and they definitely don't have that many teams, they are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Legacy is letting them do it too which is just as bad. That program is really falling hard. First tourney of the year and this is how both clubs want to start? Disgraceful by both of them.
Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.


This is the most irrelevant post I've read in a while. Are you that detached from the ideals that sports in stills on children?? "They're only 10" is the precise reason that these practices should be thwarted. You don't think that people will be talking about express cheating? You don't think the 10 year olds will know? You, pal, are the one that needs an attitude check.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.


Your like Lacrosse Seinfeld. You post about nothing. This is a forum. The point is to have a discussion. It's not a 10 year old forum, thus the reason, Jerry, that you even come on here and read and post. That's for your insightful participation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares its a tournament on Columbus day. They could have 10 express teams go let your son have fun. You parents have serious issues. I know your 10 year old kids are not posting this. Post after post about the schedule. It is so sad that you guys care about this. There will be no scouts on Monday watching your kids.


This is the most irrelevant post I've read in a while. Are you that detached from the ideals that sports in stills on children?? "They're only 10" is the precise reason that these practices should be thwarted. You don't think that people will be talking about express cheating? You don't think the 10 year olds will know? You, pal, are the one that needs an attitude check.


As an outsider reading these texts, I think it's more about age appropriate kids getting hurt by older kids than having an older kid help win your Express game
Express is not cheating . One of the teams is Express North coming from Westchester .
No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.
NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.


That is the dumbest justification ever posted. In sports at this age skill level is a major difference from year to year. Kids older at this age are usually faster and stronger from one year to the next. If my 10 year old would play with the 9 year olds he could physically hurt most of them and run circles around most.

But that is not the topics of discussion. The question is what teams are express entering into the tournament. Their website one set of teams and they registered a different set for tournament.
ok, yes, there are some valid issues with people questioning what team is what, etc. and there is already a lot of angst and vitriol flowing on the boards at all the different ages, about this and upcoming tournaments. it's the first tourney, lets see how it plays out with the teams. let them play and compete and have fun. stop starting fights for your kids. let them discover their worlds. don't salt the earth for them.

as far as everyone's express questions go, i guess we'll see with our own eyes on monday what the deal is. focus your attenion today on work, kids, and real life issues. [lacrosse], go work on this weekends fantasy roster.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.


Sounds like your son is playing down. He must be so bad that he is disgraced by kids his own age.

Express North has nothing to do with this conversation. We're discussing the Channy 2 team. It doesn't exist except in this tourney. No kid deserves to be cheated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.



its a huge difference for some.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAssau Suffolk football league , if they're still around has double age group teams. The boys played young one year and then the following year they were the older ones. No one ever complained. A few years later , the newer generation of crybaby parents right away go to videotape about how old is he , or when's his birthday and so on. All you parents think your son is the next best thing but meanwhile he's average and just wants to have fun and play. Unfortunately he can't because you have him thinking everyone else is cheating. Your cheating him.



people complained. No one listened. A kid will have to get seriously injured first unfortunately. I know 3 kids told they shouldn't play football till high school or ever based on injury this year 10 and 11's due to injury. Some kids are two helmet size difference. Its irresponsible of the leagues to allow it.
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No 10 yr old is getting hurt by an 11yr old. I'm not saying it's right to play older kids but at that age I don't think it's a big difference with size.

SAL has hurt quite a few kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?


Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.


It would be foolish to have the 5th grade boys play all morning and them put some of them to play against 6th graders in the afternoon after playing 3 am games. Asking for trouble/injuries. I would be surprised if the Express Parents let that happen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm confused by all of these Express teams. Which team is Express 1, which is Express 2 and which is Express 3? Are the Honey Badgers gone?


Trying to figure that out myself. The tournament on Monday (is that vague enough) has three 2023 express teams. In 2022 bracket is express haugen, which is a coach of 2023. Honey badgers are still here but don't go by that name, wondering if that is them playing up in Monday tournament or are the honey badgers going as Chaney or Chaney 2.

Lol they do it all the time. The exception is the honey badgers usual jump to south shore thunder not Chaney 2.
It would be foolish to have the 5th grade boys play all morning and them put some of them to play against 6th graders in the afternoon after playing 3 am games. Asking for trouble/injuries. I would be surprised if the Express Parents let that happen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.



no one is stacking a team. Dont get your panties in a wod. People are just stirring the pot.
If you check out Tourney Machine in 2022 there are 4 Express teams registered: LI Express Channy, LI Express Channy 2, LI Express Haugen (2023 coach) and LI Express Lynott. In 2023 there is LI Express Channy, LI Express Channy 2, LI Express White (and also Express North). If Haugens team is in 6th grade bracket - how is it possible for Express to have 3 additional teams in 2023 so a total of 4 teams when there were only about 60-70 kids at tryouts! Interesting! Sounds like a lot of "guest appearances" on Monday. Do they really have THAT many extra helmets!
I guess those 3- 30 min running clock games are going to be an exhausting day. Drama ....
Why do you care what express is doing? Are you sure they're all LI teams, Express has teams in Westchester and NYC. Just have fun and enjoy the tournament,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you care what express is doing? Are you sure they're all LI teams, Express has teams in Westchester and NYC. Just have fun and enjoy the tournament,


Yes, I'm sure. Express North is listed as Express North. I care because my son is playing in a tournament. I care because when tournaments are run, there should be a level playing field. I care because if a team just materializes out of thin air, it's clear that no one is making certain that the players are cleared to play in that age group. I care because it's BLATANT cheating and irresponsible on behalf of the event organizers. I care because last time a team just came about like this, two players on my sons team got leveled by a bigger kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.


What does Haugen playing his team up have to do with any of this? I'm not concerned with existing teams playing up. My concern is with unregulated, made up teams playing instead. I'd be a [lacrosse] of a lot happier with my guy playing the Honey Badgers. At least I would know that they are a legitimate team. Channy 2 is made up of who knows what.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.


Your missing the point. The discussion is not haugen playing up. That is excellent and a good choice. The question are who is Channy and Channy 2. Express at this age only had one Channy team. Is that a team playing up, down Newley formed, formed for the tournament or Haugens team going at 2023 and 2022 braket. Are kids in Channy and Channy 2 going to be interchanged, a problem that was rampant last year. Teams moved kids around based on who they were playing and wether they made the finals or not. Nobody cares that haugen is playing up.
Express lists 3 2023 teams. If 1 is playing up that leaves 2 and the north team. So they very easily could have 3 in the same bracket. Now if one is up and they list 4 at 23 then I could see that being an issue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I actually hope the express combines the best kids for these games, then there will be some competitive games. They can have the T shirts, we just want good games, win or lose.


What team does your son play for that he needs a team to cheat to give him a competitive game? When a team stacks the roster and blows other teams out by 10 goals, it's not competitive. Your son will feel like crap. Games won't be good.


Your letting yourself get caught up with winning and losing, this isn't PAL. If my sons team gets beat by 10, I'll tell him he needs to work harder to compete, not that they cheated. I applaud Haugen for playing up and challenging his kids. Not only is it fall, it's fall of 5th grade, development over championship.


Your missing the point. The discussion is not haugen playing up. That is excellent and a good choice. The question are who is Channy and Channy 2. Express at this age only had one Channy team. Is that a team playing up, down Newley formed, formed for the tournament or Haugens team going at 2023 and 2022 braket. Are kids in Channy and Channy 2 going to be interchanged, a problem that was rampant last year. Teams moved kids around based on who they were playing and wether they made the finals or not. Nobody cares that haugen is playing up.


The point is don't be consumed with trying to win, just challenged the team to get better. The express is a large club with many teams, if the boys are grade appropriate who cares who's on what team. The point about Haugen is that he is willing to take his team into a bracket and possibly lose every game to get better. Don't concern yourself or measure the boys success based on winning at this age. Just find great teams to play, you'll just exhaust yourself complaining throughout the years.
Some people just love hearing themselves talk, unreal..,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express lists 3 2023 teams. If 1 is playing up that leaves 2 and the north team. So they very easily could have 3 in the same bracket. Now if one is up and they list 4 at 23 then I could see that being an issue.


That is exactly the issue. 1 is up and 4 at 23
Express (Long Island) has four teams at the 2023 Level. Haugen's is playing up in the 2022 bracket. There are two Channy Teams due to overwhelming try-out numbers this year, and there is a team under Coach White. The third team in the bracket is Express North from Westchester. Whites team is not in this tournament.
I stand corrected, White's team is in this tournament, so I guess you can fault the Express for sending four teams to play in the tournament. I'm not sure why?, it's just a larger organization.

Complain as you must, but just let the boys play!
Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.


I do believe that this is false information.
Who cares if it is a money grab. They obviously had enough people sign their kids up. Maybe that is bad parenting. Maybe their kids just want to play and improve and aren't as concerned about winning. As for Express maybe they are looking to take the best that signed up and create a strong team and weed the rest out.
Wow Express 2023 teams getting crushed today .... Maybe the tide is changing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.


Express split their squads to get their boys more runs to see what they have!
Guess they have to re think how they teamed boys
They are getting crushed
Whites team is newly formed and as of last week had no goalie. Not sure those kids had a shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whites team is newly formed and as of last week had no goalie. Not sure those kids had a shot.


When you have three teams at 2023, you lose that as an excuse.
So do you really see Express changing it for the next tournament? If not they will continue to get beat badly.
It's 10 year old lacrosse. Express had 4 2023 teams. Three from LI, one from Westchester. Igloo played lights out. Legacy and Outlaws are good teams.

Their was only one bracket today. The good town teams would have given Igloo, Outlaws and Legacy a great run today.

Lol. Right. Which town teams is that exactly?
How did 91 Warriors play today?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Warriors play today?

Crushed them (no pun intended)
Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.
Igloo is probably top 5 because they went undefeated in the Columbus Day invitational and beat every team by 7 or more
Igloo crushed 91 warriors 13-3 and they went 2-1. 4th place
Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo is probably top 5 because they went undefeated in the Columbus Day invitational and beat every team by 7 or more


Top 5 what???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow!!! 4 teams in one age group...can you say money grab.



or maybe there are a lot of kids out there that want to play. kids have to play somewhere, so what if express wants to have multiple "developmental" teams? just tell the kids and their parents where you would approve of them playing on another organizations team. or just tell them they can't play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope


My take from yesterday is this: it was a beautiful day! Igloo is greatly improved. They were outstanding and dominated at every position. There was no reason for the Badgers to avoid them. Outlaws and Warriors looked about even, though they didn't play. They're a coin flip. Legacy took a pretty big step back from last year. They will have to figure some things out. The Honey Badgers are the only competitive Express team. Channy, Channy 2, and White all have a lot of work to do.

It's the first tourney and means very little though. See everyone Saturday for round 2!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.


They proved that they are not that good. Same kids but very different team from last year. LOL Funny seeing BM quietly on the sideline watching his team get smoked.
Spot on
Will the Badgers show up to play the Bandits this weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the Badgers show up to play the Bandits this weekend?


doubtful
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo impressive. No town team beating them. Dope


From what I saw yesterday, no town team even scores on them. They were very, very good. To the poster that said they are a top 5 team, I think that's an understatement. If they can play like that on a consistent basis, they will be in the #2 or #3 spot of the 2023 teams by the summer season (if they're not already). I wish HB played in their own division yesterday, because they would have had their hands full. But without a B division, I kind of understand. Outlaws and Warriors were not close to Igloo yesterday and Legacy and Express were well below both of them. I know that it's about the kids' development and not about wins, but it was good to see some of the better local teams in the same tourney. If that can happen more often it will make for a very entertaining season.
Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.
Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.


It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.
Based on your spelling you obviously did not go to Chaminade or St. Anthonys
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers should have played with their own age group today, no reason to play up. Didn't prove anything.


They proved that they are not that good. Same kids but very different team from last year. LOL Funny seeing BM quietly on the sideline watching his team get smoked.


Thought it was funny as well but parents on that team will not give the new coach too much rope before they demand BM be back on the sidelines. It was pretty obvious that the team is not the same since his departure.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.


"Almost" the whole roster is not the same as the whole roster. And "almost" from one or two strong towns is much different than a single town team. They are a very good team, but they are very far from being a town team.
Whew. Thanks for explaining "almost" to all of us, Captain quotation mark. Before Manhasset 32 broke into Igloo and StoS they would beat most travel teams. So it can be done.

We agree Igloo is almost exclusively from two towns. And yes, two is more than one. Maybe you can help us define "very good" team next? Or maybe define "much different"? Enlighten us.
Back to the original point --- where is Manhasset 32 today ?
Manhasset 32 split up with several of the boys and a coach going to Igloo and the other boys and coaches going to S2S

Why? you ask, the coaches couldn't agree and get along. That toxic atmosphere will find its way to the parents of Igloo who were lied to about the make up of the coaching staff at tryouts
Apparently you have a different grudge not related to original discussion which was town teams trying to compete against travel club teams. Point being it works only to a certain level and for so long before the whole town thing falls apart.
Who's playing Halloween havoc?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Town team label not such a negative. Igloo a very strong team and almost whole roster from Manhasset or Cold Spring Harbor.


Not True:

Few Attack from West Islip
Few Mids from Bellmore
Few D from Huntington








Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.


It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.


This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.


It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.


This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.


Sorry, but kids go to these schools for the athletics. They attract top athlete. They should never lose to a town team period. It is an embarrassment that has been happening more frequently due to the presence of some outstanding local programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whew. Thanks for explaining "almost" to all of us, Captain quotation mark. Before Manhasset 32 broke into Igloo and StoS they would beat most travel teams. So it can be done.

We agree Igloo is almost exclusively from two towns. And yes, two is more than one. Maybe you can help us define "very good" team next? Or maybe define "much different"? Enlighten us.


No problem. I assumed that since your original post was so stupid and incorrect that you were an idiot. That's why I used the parenthesis, you see. I wanted to highlight or emphasize the important words/concepts to make it easier for you to understand. Hope it helped. Also, a team made up of Huntington, Manhasett, Syosett, West Islip, Bellmore, etc... Is exactly like every other team. A travel club team that resembles a town team in no way whatsoever.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ridiculous argument at all comparing town teams vs any club team. Your taking some of the best players from multiple towns against the best from just one town. That's an unfair comparison for the boys. Town teams should stay just that-- town teams. Trying to be anything more results in failed programs. There are lots of towns that have already learned that lesson.


It's not rediculus. Look at the Varsity level. Good town teams frequently beat St. Anthonys and Cham which draw from all over.


This is a poor analogy. There are numerous logistical barriers keeping good players out of St A and Cham that don't exist for travel summer teams. For Catholic HSs, the player actually has to travel to and from the school 180 days a year, pay the tuition (if not on a scholie), miss out on attending school with friends, has to want a Catholic education, which usually means actually be Catholic, etc, etc. Its nothing to jump to a summer travel team as opposed to whatever the town may be offering. Its a huge deal, however, to attend a Catholic HS as opposed to your local, free, HS.


Sorry, but kids go to these schools for the athletics. They attract top athlete. They should never lose to a town team period. It is an embarrassment that has been happening more frequently due to the presence of some outstanding local programs.


Sure, some go there for athletics, but clearly not enough of the top players go there to ensure dominance over good public HSs. And the barriers described above are the main reason why. Those barriers mostly don't exist in the travel vs town team metric.

Look at it this way. Very few of the best 100 or so players in 6th grade chose a town team in the summer over a travel team. But many of the best 100 or so 11th and 12th graders choose their local HS over a parochial school. This is why the analogy fails, and why town teams mostly can't compete with the best travel teams, but it should surprise no one that the top publics can often beat top parochial schools.
You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??
Chaminade yes. St Anthony's no! St anthony's is not even close to being on par with the top public schools
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??


Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??


Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?


Oh yeah. What school is that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You couldn't be more incorrect. Kids go to Catholic school for superior academics and emphasis on college.

And if, as you say, they are going for the Athletics -- why wouldn't they stay in their free town high school where the sports teams are better ??


Not sure? At my kids HS there are just as may Ivy commits as the Catholics. And the lax is great too. And free! Why stray?


Oh yeah. What school is that?


Well there are a few: maybe more
Garden City
Manhasset
Smithtown East
Dude. Pro tip for you. When calling someone else an idiot please be sure to understand the difference between quotation marks and a parenthetical. Otherwise, you might look like a total fool. But thanks for the entertainment value and the zero credibility you add to the conversation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dude. Pro tip for you. When calling someone else an idiot please be sure to understand the difference between quotation marks and a parenthetical. Otherwise, you might look like a total fool. But thanks for the entertainment value and the zero credibility you add to the conversation.


I guess that's what you have to resort to after someone proves you wrong! Lol!
I don't think it matters. Point being. Great athletes staying within the public school system. No reason to go to Catholic school with the exception of the religious aspect. I agree completely with that post.
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.
How many Express teams in the bracket? Also, what is the over/under on the number of goals scored against Bandits? 3 games == 6?
Looks like Bandits are going to play the Warriors?!' Really? Amazing what they will do to one of their own for the free tshirt and bragging rights. Based on teams in that bracket Bandits should be playing up so they can have competitive games instead of wasting everyone else's time and money.
Bandits haven't lost a game in two years and almost always play up think they have a plan. People it's FALL ball most boys are playing soccer football pumpkin picking etc. 5th grade!!!!! Analyzing 5th grade fall tournaments
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits haven't lost a game in two years and almost always play up think they have a plan. People it's FALL ball most boys are playing soccer football pumpkin picking etc. 5th grade!!!!! Analyzing 5th grade fall tournaments

Not the Bandits....they are all lacrosse all the time
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Express teams in the bracket? Also, what is the over/under on the number of goals scored against Bandits? 3 games == 6?

I'll take the under
A page back everyone said the HB should not play up and here the Bandits should it's the first tournament of the fall Also doubt the bandits care about a tee shirt as implied earlier (sure their drawers are full) it's a fall tournament people enjoy it
When your the Bandits you know exactly what you have. No team in the 2023 bracket has beaten them yet. Why take a fall tourny to beat up on your fellow brethren and obviously weaker teams that will now only dread the tournament. Tournaments should be about evenly matched competitive games-- so players can develop and have fun. There is no fun in losing games by 15-20 goals
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.


Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.
How do you see the wolfpack doing against that bracket? Competitive? Run away with it?
I'd be surprised if anyone scores on Bandits but agree they should absolutely play in the 2022 in which they would likely win as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.


Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.


Playing A shows they are a class act.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.


Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.


Playing A shows they are a class act.


Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.


They'll beat a lot of A's.

Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.


Playing A shows they are a class act.


Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.


Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.


Playing A shows they are a class act.


Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.


Like United!! Plz stop. Igloo is a good B team. Warriors are a developmental team.
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits (because they won't beat Crush) are playing on grade level and Wolfpack is playing up in weak B division.


You mean Smash?

Where else should the pack play? Nothing to prove on grade until they find Taz.

Warriors are playing A, maybe they value comp over shirts. Good for them.



Do you think the Warriors play B divisions? The only time they ever played in a b division was last fall when they played up and won at Mustang.


Playing A shows they are a class act.


Pretty darn good B team, much like United. I'm impressed, you folks should be too.


Like United!! Plz stop. Igloo is a good B team. Warriors are a developmental team.

Lol! This is most inaccurate and senseless statement on this entire website. You're a fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!
A 2024 team is making a 2023 thread. Wolfpack in the mix. Gotta love it.
Really moron, "gotta love it" who cares if the wolfpack is playing up. Who are they playing? If the beat igloo,bandits and badgers then post something. IDIOT
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A 2024 team is making a 2023 thread. Wolfpack in the mix. Gotta love it.


Wolfpack isn't playing anyone. SYAG is a horrible town team. I saw Express White on Monday. They are the 4th Express team and won't win a game this season. Greenwich is a 4th/5th Town team. When your Pack plays decent B teams they get crushed. Go away.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Bandits would beat Smash, jerkoff. What team does your kid sit on the bench for?
Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy


Sure you are
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.
hey, wait a minute, those are same proportions as Bruce, er, Cait Jenner...
tough guy.. 6'4" 235.. who cares. big loser
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy


I'm 6'6" 255. Why don't you come looking for me and call me little man to my face, moron. Online tough guy. See, I can do that too. Beat it, PackRat. This is a 2023 forum.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


And 100% accurate.
hey, maybe want to push yourself away from the "all you can eat' buffet tough guy? or stop eating everyday at the Mastic Beach Diner
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.


Whooooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaaares?????????????? Is your son on the team? Didn't make the team? It really doesn't matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Im 6'4 235. Why don't you come looking for me and call me moron to my face little man. Online tough guy


I'm 6'6" 255. Why don't you come looking for me and call me little man to my face, moron. Online tough guy. See, I can do that too. Beat it, PackRat. This is a 2023 forum.


You're both morons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.


Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.


Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental


Lol! you're right they can play and get crushed by top teams and compete with most B/C teams. you warrior parents love to talk in fall (see thread last year) and then silence come spring /summer when reality sets in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, like United. They win their fair share even without the very best kids and even after seeing some of their best move up. Pretty impressive.


United beat smash last year are you saying warriors give bandits a game? Lol!


Not thinking that they will give them a game, but I am thinking that they like United are a second team that can play with MANY organizations best teams. Simple statement.


What organizations best team have they beaten again? They beat an express b team by a goal last weekend and got spanked by igloo. Got beat up at laxfest from what I recall.


Learn how to read you stupid moron. Maybe try a little slower and you can see what I said. Reading is fun-damental


Lol! you're right they can play and get crushed by top teams and compete with most B/C teams. you warrior parents love to talk in fall (see thread last year) and then silence come spring /summer when reality sets in.


Stupid moron!
Posting it on here since it was the 2023 bracket. I've always stayed out of the
91 vs other teams back and forth. Mainly because I've never really had any direct interaction with them, other than some normal kids/parents on my sons town team. Today my sons team met the Wolfpack. Now I know everything people have been saying on here is true. And by the way wolf mommy, when you say "we own that goalie", do you realize you are not playing? And that said goalies family might be standing next to you which is why we had to say something to make you look stupid? Pathetic.
Why is it that these Long Island lacrosse parents have NO CLASS? Longboard parents on 2024 are same way. Really sad for the sport how emotional they get. Even saw a Longboard parent berating his son in the bushes today. Smh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is it that these Long Island lacrosse parents have NO CLASS? Longboard parents on 2024 are same way. Really sad for the sport how emotional they get. Even saw a Longboard parent berating his son in the bushes today. Smh



Yes but remember there are those parents everywhere, not just LI, in all sports.
You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.


Aren't we all crazy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can't judge a group of parents on one crazy mom on the sideline. Every team has one or two. We have played the Wolfpack 4 times and everytime I've talked with a couple of dads throughout the game and they were nice guys. My son plays defense so I stay on that side of the field, guys I've talked to a couple of times have boys that play attack. I can't tell you how everyone else on the team acts, but I think it's unfair to group them all together. Even our team has 1 or 2 crazies.


That was just the most obnoxious case. There was more. But I wholeheartedly agree. Pretty much all teams have them. Even if that wasn't my son in goal I'd still be disgusted by it.
On a different topic, what teams are doing Blatant?
I don't think either 91 team is going.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.
HAHAHA. Go away
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".


Outlaws would beat both of them and it wouldn't be close. The difference between A and B divisions is astronomical. Please leave.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread


Well the Pack are 2023 for this weekend. Taz is in a 3 team 2024 division...that sure looks like a matchup waiting to happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".

Please take your nonsense back to the 2024 thread

Wolfpack are playing in the 2023 bracket...Taz, not so much
The schedule is up on Tourney Machine
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't think either 91 team is going.

Would assume 91 Wolfpack will play up


Not a Wolfpack or Taz father, but Wolfpack playing up will not face any team as difficult a Taz. They should just play on grade level. Seems they would just prefer to not give Taz a chance to win. If Taz wants to play up, they would unquestionable face Wolfpack in the Championship. This, however, is a 2023 thread so I don't actually give a crap. Neither team would beat an A division team.

Actually, Wolfpack and Taz would beat some "A" teams in 2023 such as the Outlaws who play only in "A".


Outlaws would beat both of them and it wouldn't be close. The difference between A and B divisions is astronomical. Please leave.

The tourney is rigged to have Outlaws play the easier teams. Igloo and Express in the championship.
Which outlaws team was at the Columbus day tourney? Black or select?
Can't be Igloo and Express. They play each other and one will have a loss.

Outlaws schedule is a cakewalk.

They will play the winner of Igloo/Express in the final.

Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact


That's awesome! Try to own a 2024 bracket first! Lol! Your own coach knows you can't compete in 2023! Lol!
Win a 2024 tournament where there is real competition and then start talking about 2023. You play in 2024/2025 tournaments, and your talking about 2023? Taddies are losing thier minds.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact


those little guys would get hurt. Neutralize the face-offs and they are pretty close with everyone else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact


those little guys would get hurt. Neutralize the face-offs and they are pretty close with everyone else.


In 2024
Taz can't even beat the 2024 teams. Come play up with the 2023s if you're that solid of a team. Dare ya!!
I dare ya. Are you 12 years old. We used to say that in 6th grade. Stop living through your kids 9 yr old lacrosse team. Don't be a tool. Nobody likes a tool.
What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.


Go bicker in the 2024 thread. Enough of this nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Taz would own this 2023 bracket . Wait and see folks, this team will surprise a lot of people. Fact
agreed. Taz would house the 2023's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are u talking about TAZ can't beat 2024 teams what other team around here can even Hang with them besides pack no one else has come close. aside from Pack there is no other team with the same skill level even if you "neutralize " the face off as u put it.



LOL! They are all face offs! pretty main street otherwise. Pack on the other hand....
The Honey Badgers/Igloo game should be awesome. Igloo really improved.
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both


The Pack would have zero shot against Igloo or the Badgers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both


Pack needs to get past shore 2 shore first before they start talking about the finals.
Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.


They win out this weekend or lose a close one in the finals they are Special. If not you are correct.
Wish Pack would take their crazies and go back to their own bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Honey Badgers/Igloo game should be awesome. Igloo really improved.


This will be a great game. What youth lacrosse should be about. A great competitive game.
Amazing how this Pack team has pretty much beaten every team in 2024 and a bunch from 2023 and you sit here and say they are nothing to talk about. Didn't Crush and Bandits start out the same way and just kept improving? The fact they play up 99% of the time and have no problem stepping into an A 2023 bracket to see what they are capable of at a much higher level speaks volumes. The plan is to have these boys play good solid lacrosse against teams that should be a step above them. Winning the tournament is secondary. And what parent in all of Lacrosse doesn't think their kids team are a little better than they really are? Look in the mirror, you are one of them. This is a 2023 thread that we shouldn't even be on, but when a troll opens his mouth and blurts out BS, something has to be said. Now go do something right for your boy and have a catch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.


Agreed. They are a step behind the top two Maryland 2024 teams. Maybe start there before the crush bandits comparison. Neither of them lost a game to a Maryland team at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazing how this Pack team has pretty much beaten every team in 2024 and a bunch from 2023 and you sit here and say they are nothing to talk about. Didn't Crush and Bandits start out the same way and just kept improving? The fact they play up 99% of the time and have no problem stepping into an A 2023 bracket to see what they are capable of at a much higher level speaks volumes. The plan is to have these boys play good solid lacrosse against teams that should be a step above them. Winning the tournament is secondary. And what parent in all of Lacrosse doesn't think their kids team are a little better than they really are? Look in the mirror, you are one of them. This is a 2023 thread that we shouldn't even be on, but when a troll opens his mouth and blurts out BS, something has to be said. Now go do something right for your boy and have a catch.


What 2023 teams has the Pack beaten? Last summer there were 3 A teams at the 2023 level (Badgers, Igloo & 32) and 1 AA team (Bandits). Did the Pack play any of those teams? Every other 2023 team on the Island was B level and any of those four 2023 A/AA teams could step up to the 2022 bracket and beat B teams just like the Pack did at 2023.

You've got a good team but settle down, it's a long road ahead and 2023 happens to be a pretty strong year for LI lax with 75 legit A players grouped into a few different teams (32 broke up). Looking at your schedule this weekend, you should be able to very easily handle Legacy, they are weak at this age group. 3 Village is a town team obviously so you should have an advantage there and Shore 2 Shore is new so who knows. Good luck. If you go 3-0 you'll get to face off against Express or Igloo. Should be a good game for a few minutes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough about the pack. They are a strong 2024 team. Not dominant like crush or bandits. Really not that special just a strong team with parents that think they are better then they are.


They win out this weekend or lose a close one in the finals they are Special. If not you are correct.


They beat WHB 1-0 in the finals last week. Thats 1-0 to a good town team. 1
I don't like the pack, but in reality they can't win. Either they beat up on 2024 and are told they should play up. If they play up they get yelled at for playing up for multiple reasons.
You are a TOOL! WH went home early not knowing they had another game. Tourney Machine put it as a 1-0 win for the 'pack. Fool
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both
the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


OK let me rephrase that to soothe your frazzled nerves. I don't like the pack because of some of their parents like you. For reasons many have talked about on here. Now go drink some hot tea with honey to sooth your vocal cords to be ready to yell at your son this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.


Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both
the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both
the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Ummmm. Is one of the moderators here going to do something about this a**hole that has called out a child by name on more than one occasion and has now resorted to calling that same 10 year old child a D-bag???? That is absolutely ridiculous.

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Amazing how people would actually believe that this is even a WP parent writing this nonsense. It's some lonely pathetic "anonymous" sh*tstirrer who is having a conversation with his or herself.
Calling out a kid like that. You loser. Get off the thread, you loser. I hope that kids father finds out who you are.
Agreed
No way WolfPack Parents are saying this stuff.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Amazing how people would actually believe that this is even a WP parent writing this nonsense. It's some lonely pathetic "anonymous" sh*tstirrer who is having a conversation with his or herself.
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The PACK love honey and the cold will bet both
the Honey isn't the part you need to worry about, it's the Badger part that would destroy and rip the WolfPack apart. Pack would never be able to handle the physical play of the Honey Badgers.

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Ummmm. Is one of the moderators here going to do something about this a**hole that has called out a child by name on more than one occasion and has now resorted to calling that same 10 year old child a D-bag???? That is absolutely ridiculous.

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I will not tolerate any mention of players on BOTC.

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Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak
bandits are overrated.DELETED
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Calling out a kid like that. You loser. Get off the thread, you loser. I hope that kids father finds out who you are.


Whoever made the comment about the child obviously does not know the child's father. He/she better hope and pray that the father doesn't find out who he/she is!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.


Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.


Actually, that's true. They scrimmaged 2x. Both times it was shockingly one-sided.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak
bandits are overrated DELETED


More edits needed above... Why not ban people who use kids names?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak


Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


9 year olds? most are 10 so they are playing in the correct bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak


Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about


Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.
Whoh..do you French kiss your Mom with that perverted mouth numb nuts? Your kid hates you
Igloo definitely has improved and will get respect that needs to be earned by winning a few games against quality opponents. Once that happens they will be considered a better team than last year. As for HB, they will be fine. They are consistent and have proved themselves the past year by only losing to Bandits and a few 2022 teams. 2023 year has many players that are talented and this year will prove to be competitive. I think that's what you are looking for when it comes to Long Island Lax and competition. Good luck to all teams and players this weekend and lets remember its fall lacrosse with many players playing other sports!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak


Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about


Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.
not sure if that was meant to be funny but it actually came out disturbing. In the future you should take a minute to re-read what you have written before you hit send.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't like the 'pack?? They are 9 year old kids. What the [lacrosse] does that even mean?. What's next your going to fight them on the playground at lunch


Didn't the Pack scrimmage the Warriors last summer twice? Didn't the Warriors beat them by 12 the first time and 14 the second? Guys, the warriors are a good team, but not elite and they made your team look like they just started playing lacrosse. Time to stop.


Pack lost by double digits to the Warriors? Please get off the thread right now. Warriors are the best B team on LI but make no mistake that they are a B team.


Actually, that's true. They scrimmaged 2x. Both times it was shockingly one-sided.


Yes it was. I was surprised.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right? Cant handle the Bandits so lets go beat up younger Wolfpack. Weak


Hit the quote button so people know what you're talking about


Let me see if I can help with what he meant:

First- Seems this guy named "Right" has a problem with the Bandits. Probably some childhood thing when his friends always tied him up when they played Rob the stagecoach!

Second - Let's go beat up!! - I heard about this pregame ritual the WP Dad's participate in. Strange, seems they all gather in a tight circle and J Off.

Lastly, he agrees the Younger Wolfpack Team is WEAK.
not sure if that was meant to be funny but it actually came out disturbing. In the future you should take a minute to re-read what you have written before you hit send.


I agree, the Wolfpack parents are a very disturbing group
This is a guy talking to himself. Haha tool
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is a guy talking to himself. Haha tool


I love when grown men use the tool word. Classic NOT
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.
It's amazing that dad's come on here and post this nonsense. They are 10. Enjoy it and stop living through your kid. Every team has a bottom and it's always the same guys who complain. The dad who pays his way on to a team as the last kid then has the gall to write derogatory comments about the opponents. Who cares. Go to a team where you will actually contribute and be happy. Tuck your child in and wish him luck!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.


Guessing English isn't your first language. You can prob get a tutor in manhassett
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.



Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team igloo has one win and they are the it teeam? come on play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.


Guessing English isn't your first language. You can prob get a tutor in manhassett


Forget a tutor; Manhassett needs lacrosse lessons. Kids are horrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.


Where was the Igloo team from the Columbus Day Invitational? That team that played today was a shell of the one a few weeks ago. I'm guessing they had "help" Columbus Day. They looked mediocre today.
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.

Igloo lost to Honey Badgers and did not make the finals. Honey Badgers vs. S2S in finals. HB won by 2 in first game and lost by 2 in finals. Great day and some exciting new rivalries being created.!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.


Where was the Igloo team from the Columbus Day Invitational? That team that played today was a shell of the one a few weeks ago. I'm guessing they had "help" Columbus Day. They looked mediocre today.


No help. Just a bad day at the office
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.



Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.


Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.



Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.


Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.


you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.
Totally agree.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.



Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.


Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.


you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.


Legit question. Why are Bandits in "another league " is because of recruiting, practice ? Why are they so much better? And what happens to that team moving forward? Will they discard the loyal players at the bottom of the depth chart like Crush did?
The Bandits are in another league because of their continuity same players. Same coaches And they practice. The gap is because of that and it seems to have grown. Some great 2023 games today and by today's results after the bandits the other three teams are very comparable, makes it exciting. We haven't had our team together very long and we won a tournament today which was surprising but great !
Good for DK
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo will beat HoneyBadgers this weekend. I watch both team play a few weeks ago. Igloo looked very good. Badgers looked disorganized with no sense of excitement. They looked dull, flat and as if they have no desire to win. They just are not the same team as last year.

Not this weekend. Sorry.



Even better. They lost to a worse team. Lost to Shore to Shore. That's a real bad loss my friend. Again, that team lacks any sort of desire to win.

Bandits
Shore to Shore
igloo
Honey Badgers

That's is some slide from fame in just a few months. Sad.


Stupidity at its finest. I am not looking to rank these teams, rather just addressing that you called Shore to Shore a worse team than Igloo, then you ranked them ahead of Igloo. Which is it? Has Shore to Shore even played Igloo? And Honey Badgers beat both Igloo and Shore to Shore just TODAY so not sure how you can claim such a fall from grace? Kinda silly.


you guys are all tools. Its awesome that 2023 has three very competitive teams all playing at a high level. Bandits in a different league but these three will have some great battles this year. enjoy it.


Legit question. Why are Bandits in "another league " is because of recruiting, practice ? Why are they so much better? And what happens to that team moving forward? Will they discard the loyal players at the bottom of the depth chart like Crush did?


Like Crush they have a dominant player (middle, instead of attack man). They also only really play the top 14 kids on the team. Those 14 kids have largely stayed the same and played and practiced together for past 4 years.
Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).
I understand that everyone is about the "top" teams but there are other teams in the 2023 grouping that gave good effort yesterday. Kudos to all the boys that get out there and try and to the parents that aren't compmete jerks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).


I understand your thoughts here but many of their boys had football last night and the A was the later bracket (championship was 5pm ) so not much of a choice. Nice to see the great sportsmanship by all teams and a very well run tournament by Blatant ! First class operation
Just because 3 or 4 parents are "disturbing", don't say "the Wolfpack parents". I happen to know many of them and it's only about two sets of parents that ruin it for the whole group. Don't put them together.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits played at Blatant yesterday under 2023 91. They played in the 6th grade "B" division. I personally would rather they play in the 6th grade "A" division. My son has played them 4 times over the last 3 years and its the same score 12-0, 19-0, 15-1. I don't like the hiding under 2023 91. They really should just be honest and call themselves the Bandits and play where they belong. I'm waiting to see if one of them actually drives to a tourney one day (just kidding, but almost serious).


I understand your thoughts here but many of their boys had football last night and the A was the later bracket (championship was 5pm ) so not much of a choice. Nice to see the great sportsmanship by all teams and a very well run tournament by Blatant ! First class operation


JS promised parents they wouldn't lose a game. At the end of the summer they had problems with a 3V town team in the A division. He won't let that happen again.
One thing I know about sports is having problems and listing are two different things seems the Bandits at least have a plan they play grade level first weekend out then play up in a 6 b and I'm sure they'll keep raising the comp as they always do. Our first weekend we played up got beat up then played grade and were inconsistent we don't seem to have a plan Thought the igloo express game was a terrific game . Will be interesting to see these teams grow, does express miss BM I believe so
Is this Shore 2 Shore team for real? Maybe Igloo shouldn't have let DK go?
Team is good. Parents are trash
Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?
Outlaws 2023 did not show up to play yesterday. I don't know what happened. PB made a lot of changes but it didn't seem to work.
maybe got bad dose of Fruity Pebbles for breakfast?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ? [/quote]

I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?


I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see... [/quote

You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids.
South Shore has strong Lax schools.....Garden City, Lynbrook, Massapequa, Wantagh, RVC, and Oceanside to name a few
You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids. [/quote]

Why does everyone have to cheat to put together a good team? Wasn't there a lot of movement among teams plus the disbanding of Manhasset 32 at this age (a team that took the HBs to OT and split with Igloo this past summer)? Sounds like you are a little afraid of Shore 2 Shore...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team is good. Parents are trash

Where are majority of shore 2shore from ?


I watched the championship. Team seemed real good - balanced. Spoke to a few parents who said they were from Manhasset, RVC and a couple from South Shore. I didn't see any poor behavior by the parents of either team. Both teams parents were normal which was nice to see... [/quote

You should have asked how many of the boys are 2022's? Strange how this big talent pool emerged out of nowhere. RVC 2023 is not very good and Sourh Shore????? Wouldn't be the first time he cheated with older kids.


you're an idiot. let me guess. you either heard a rumor or started one that they are older... and by your "knowledge" of RVC 2023, you sure are pretty familiar with them. go sharpen your ax somewhere else.
Express parents are nuts over this loss!
Long live DK!!!!!
Can't wait for the Igloo S2S matchup.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express parents are nuts over this loss!

I doubt it, its the Fall. I think some, including BM are making too much of it.
What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.


I watched the whole game - didn't see anything funny. It was a great game by both teams. The level of play was excellent by both sides with a slight edge to S2S. And no crazy parents (that I saw)!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened at the end of the champ game? As we were getting there some badgers were leaving and I caught one of the dad's asking some other person if they saw what happened at the end. I got the impression he was ticked off.


I watched the whole game - didn't see anything funny. It was a great game by both teams. The level of play was excellent by both sides with a slight edge to S2S. And no crazy parents (that I saw)!


In the future try to act like you've been there before.
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them

Awesome analysis Mel! What would really be interesting is to see who posts on here more BM or DK. 3rd to 4th....brilliant
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them


Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [lacrosse]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them


Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa


It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.
so what? if he can handle it and hes proper age. go for it.
although he'll burn out by 14
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them


Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa
.


It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.


Wrong kid bandit fogo is JS kid he doesn't play mama boys
mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.


Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I am an idiot. An idiot that talks about kids in this way. I bet he better knock it off!!! DELETED If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.

If you listen to me you can climb under my rock with me.
Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.


Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I still suck as a parent and a human being. If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.

If you listen to me you can climb under my rock with me.



That's nice. Does it make you feel like more of a man to say a bunch of 10 year olds who do community service DELETED What a disgrace you are to the lax community. Cant wait for Karma
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
mama boys Face off kid changed into 91 uniform. Fact. and he is an awesome player.


Dude, Mamas Boys has a few Bandits and guess what? I still suck as a parent and a human being.. If there was a bandit taking faceoffs, it was a secondary player that probably doesn't see the field for JS. Save your excuses, Igloo.


That's nice. Does it make you feel like more of a man to say a bunch of 10 year olds who do community service to be on a lax team DELETED What a disgrace you are to the lax community. Cant wait for Karma


Yeah, that's why they're on the team... to do community service. Get over yourself guy. None of those kids are on it for that reason. It's great that that aspect is involved, but that is secondary to everyone but the organizer. My older son played on the original team till last year. They had it right. Now it's WAAAAY different. It's all a bunch of crazy parents who see it as a cheap way for their kid to play more lax. Save me the holier than thou crap.
so it is ok to say kids DELETED
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so it is ok to say kids DELETED?...


No, it is not ok! I think I settled it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr



Thanks coach. Youve proven to be as ineffective and divisive as advertised
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow! Someone really has it out for Igloo. The team has great coaching and a ton of talent. Not too concerned about 10 year old power rankings and results of fall ball. Hope to see you in the Spring. Until than, get yourself some prozac and relax.bgr



Thanks coach. Youve proven to be as ineffective and divisive as advertised


Let it go...let it gooooo!
Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Igloo went from being a real strong team to at best the 4th best team in the bracket behind 91, S2S, and Express. It will be interesting to see if any other teams rise up and pass them


Whoa. Igloo BARELY beat Mamas Boyz on Saturday and I am pathetic. I would hold off on ranking until the spring. As far as most are concerned, it's still bandits and then everyone else. Now even more so with all of the off season movement. When you start bragging about being 4th best, you have issues.

Then again, I am an idiot know nothing who loves to stir up [****]!! Don't listen to me. My mama didn't love me enough.... waaaaaaaaaaa


It was nice to watch the Bandits fogo change uniforms to his Mamas boyz in between games.


There were also Outlaws that were changing into MB uniforms-- pick a team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!
Why can't kids play on more than one team?
IMO I think a Club is misrepresenting itself. When you win games and Championships with “borrowed” players it is not representative of talent that Club recruited. When parents are paying thousands of dollars for a Club team, you are under the assumption the product (and wins) are legit. When you see Championship wins on a website, you assume that came from Club talent and Clubs coaches. Instead the reality of the situation is the team only wins when they have guest appearances from talent that other elite clubs developed. It’s false advertising.

Second a coach is actually taking credit for a player he didn’t actually develop and train. Why any coach would want someone else taking credit for their time and talents is beyond understanding. JS deserves a lot of royalties from a lot of Clubs.
But the overriding issue is the parents paying thousands of dollars to have the program develop their child, NOT to win games. The 'guest' players take valuable time away from the kids that don't get the opportunity to play because of the 'guest' player. If you're on a team that uses 'guest' players, you're really getting ripped off.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IMO I think a Club is misrepresenting itself. When you win games and Championships with “borrowed” players it is not representative of talent that Club recruited. When parents are paying thousands of dollars for a Club team, you are under the assumption the product (and wins) are legit. When you see Championship wins on a website, you assume that came from Club talent and Clubs coaches. Instead the reality of the situation is the team only wins when they have guest appearances from talent that other elite clubs developed. It’s false advertising.

Second a coach is actually taking credit for a player he didn’t actually develop and train. Why any coach would want someone else taking credit for their time and talents is beyond understanding. JS deserves a lot of royalties from a lot of Clubs.
This is why lacrosse needs to follow USA hockey. Every team submits a certified roster to USA hockey for the season. For each game, a uniform score sheet (same form for all games) is used, with each team sticking its roster on the score sheet, which lists each player and jersey number. Each kid wears a jersey with their name on the back and the jersey number. Everything is open and transparent, and can be checked at HQ if need be. And a birth certificate is submitted with the rosters to USA hockey.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why lacrosse needs to follow USA hockey. Every team submits a certified roster to USA hockey for the season. For each game, a uniform score sheet (same form for all games) is used, with each team sticking its roster on the score sheet, which lists each player and jersey number. Each kid wears a jersey with their name on the back and the jersey number. Everything is open and transparent, and can be checked at HQ if need be. And a birth certificate is submitted with the rosters to USA hockey.



Love it, too bad the cheating losers will fight this. They've spent so much time and money grooming little Johnny for a scholarship, not giving a damn who they may be being unfair to.
Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.


I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!


Badger Dad here, not taking away from anything AJ is doing but I know I speak for most parents on this team when I say. Last years dynamic between AJ and Bob was absolutely the best I've ever seen and MY child thrived on it. That is why the team was extremely successful. All about having fun but I didn't pay $2500 for FUN. I want to win games and tournaments. If you want FUN, stay with PAL. By the way, it's very obvious to know who you are since you are in the minority. You are better off just staying silent so the team can regain itself.
you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.


I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).


All I can say right now is this issue is being seriously worked on......
Agreed there is no structured league or series. However there is an underlying assumption there is Club continuity. This board is filled with posts ranking one club over another and team performance at various tournaments. And when players decide which Clubs they want to play for, it is usually based on team track record, which is assumed comes from the coaching and not guest players.
Tournaments are independently run and that is partly where a player gets their growth and experience – playing against teams from MD, PA, VA. Big learning opportunity. Players also get varied perspectives and training playing for their town/school coaches and Club coaches – that’s were multidimensional training comes in.
When a club brings in Studs for guest appearances it is doubtful it is for the benefit of the player and more likely the benefit of the Club name. Why else bring in a guest player? Because they are short players? Nobody buys that line anymore. I would be curious a Club Directors perspective, particularly those who recruit, train and mentor those players. A player that plays on two teams in one tournament is potentially playing 6-10 games in one day. Say that player gets hurt in his guest appearance game and can’t play in any of the games for his regular Club. Or maybe the player just gets tired, and his performance drops off for his other Club games. I would think a Club coach would have an issue with that.
It doesn’t seem healthy for any youth player and will make them far more prone to injury at some point. I would think this would be a concern for the overall health of the sport as well as coaches. Also curious the perspective of the Tournament Directors that do have rules banning players from playing on more than one team in one tournament. Why would they have that rule in place?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lacrosse needs some sort of sanction. No one knows who's really on the team, how old they are or what grade they are in. Until this sanction happens, cheating will continue.


I agree whole heartedly about sanctions centered around age and grade. I don't agree about the Who's on what team. I also disagree that US lacrosse only lets a player play for one group (had be brought up prior years). As you get older you will want to have the flexibility to play for multiple groups or have the option. That helps you son grow and gain different perspectives and training.

These tournaments are not a part of some sort of league where there needs to be consistency. One weekend to the next, you are feeding another programs tournament. If there were a series and league involvement then Id say a static rosters. if not they are truly all independent tournaments.

Each weekend is mutually exclusive to the last or future weekends games. Who cares who you played for.

a good coach wont limit you as well he will promote you playing across clubs. A real coach will support you playing outside your club (when it doesn't conflict with you club).


The above works for those kids that are lax 24/7 and who are elite players where D-III is basically their worst case scenario. It does not, however, create an ideal environment for the more casual player - the good athlete who plays multiple sports who will likely be nothing more than a decent HS lacrosse player. I have spoken to parents of kids who have dabbled in the summer travel lax scene but who have not returned - finding it unorganized, overpriced, and with uneven competition. Seeing kids play for multiple teams in the same tournament is a major turnoff for the large majority of parents. The opinion expressed above is certainly the minority one - maybe not the minority one amongst people who live and breathe this stuff - but its the minority opinion amongst prospective customers I am sure. Parents who are exposed to other youth sports find travel lax clownish. Parents who are all in with lacrosse don't realize this - they don't talk to others outside their lax cliques.

What the owners of these clubs are missing is that if they structured things more like USA hockey (and what some other sports do as well), they would make more money. They already have the lax freaks. By making certain changes (enforcing age and participation restrictions, etc) I believe they would grow their numbers and teams, and capture the more causal families. For a 24/7 elite laxer, playing against double holdbacks from MD may seem like a rite of passage that will get the kid better. For the more casual family, its "screw this, we will not be back".

My kids love lacrosse and hockey. With regard to hockey, they play about 50 games over 6 months - usually 2 leagues plus 2 weekend travel tournaments. Almost all games are competitive. You know all opponents are on age and belong on that team. Schedules are set, leagues are joined, and tournaments are entered based on the strength of your team. The clubs almost always get this right, in large part, because the opponents are always on age, and no one is using guest players that would tip the competitive balance. Also, no one is seeing their kid lose ice time to a guest player - nor their kid being bossed by older kids.

And USA hockey does have spring elite teams and summer events where kids get to play with other clubs/coaches/kids to obtain the benefits (exposure, competition, coaching) that such provides. But it is done outside the season.

One impediment that lacrosse has is that it still honors the Town season. Prime lacrosse time (March-early June) is hands off for travel lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...


"I" paid the $2500 and most will understand that it was meant as "I want the boys to win". Kids get better with practice. Tournaments are the end result of practice. We keep a score and we track W&L's. Every parent out there wants their child/team to win. You're one of those guys who doesn't like the MVP trophy but rather likes the PARTICIPATION trophy. Got it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you are a LOSER for saying "I" you dont play you dope..you should enjoy watching your kid play..only thing you should really worry abt is that you kid is getting better. you sound so foolish...5th grader may be more mature than you...


I ENJOY a fine wine or a good movie. I LOVE watching my kid kick your kids A$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers were much better under BM. The intensity is gone! Killer instinct....gone!

Bob, get yourself on some medication. The kids had FUN, they don't miss you!


Badger Dad here, not taking away from anything AJ is doing but I know I speak for most parents on this team when I say. Last years dynamic between AJ and Bob was absolutely the best I've ever seen and MY child thrived on it. That is why the team was extremely successful. All about having fun but I didn't pay $2500 for FUN. I want to win games and tournaments. If you want FUN, stay with PAL. By the way, it's very obvious to know who you are since you are in the minority. You are better off just staying silent so the team can regain itself.


Could not agree more. You've done enough damage to our team but complaining up and down the sidelines last year and forcing an issue this year. Let it go already.
Why is no one talking about S2S? Where did they come from? There doesn't seem to be too much information about them. What they did last weekend was impressive. Besides the Bandits, are they the new team to beat? Will the Bandits play them?
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


Make it strictly by birth year. 2005 on the side of the shorts, not 2023. 2005 on tourney machine, not 2023. Easy-peasy. And the college coaches should welcome this - as the kids get older. Best way to predict future success is to have kids play vs kids there own age. And the big clubs should welcome this. Rules that are strictly enforced across the board will, over time, favor the clubs with more $, more marketing, more bling, more teams, etc.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is no one talking about S2S? Where did they come from? There doesn't seem to be too much information about them. What they did last weekend was impressive. Besides the Bandits, are they the new team to beat? Will the Bandits play them?

Obviously a solid team. Poached kids from express, igloo, 32, then sprinkled in a few others. Not sure about holdbacks but that's irrelevant. Part of their performance may have been from clubs playing everyone since it's the fall. I'm sure teams will shorten bench next time they play in summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?




Not difficult. At some point those boys all played PAL/town. Lax world isn't that big.
Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?



many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.


Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?



many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's


Why aren't they playing as a 2022 team if the majority of the boys are in that age group?
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.
]Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: S2S did have a kid play in the last tournament that plays on a 2022 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.


Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022
Originally Posted by Anonymous
]Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: S2S did have a kid play in the last tournament that plays on a 2022 team.



Don't those two facts contradict one another !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore is a talented 2023 team comprised mostly of kids who are born in 2004 not 2005. They are very talented but will be unable to participate in any U11 tournament based on age. Again, another reason to come up with a sanction organization that has guidelines and rules.


How would you know that level of information? I thought team was made up of Manhasset, RVC and other South Shore towns?



many are not even 2023 -- they are 2022's


Why aren't they playing as a 2022 team if the majority of the boys are in that age group?


Exactly. Because they can't win in that bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.


Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022


We play grade based tourneys last i checked. if you want to whine about holdbacks go to the 2019 thread
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.


Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?


No really good additions, they are much weaker at the lefty attack position, they lost a fairly decent face-off kid and had negative coaching change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore2Shore is a good team. Did that really surprise anyone? Everyone knew that 1/2 of a very good Manhasset team, some Igloo and Badgers were starting it. It doesn't take a genius to realize that they would be good. We all also knew that the HB's would most likely be taking a small step back. Still very good. Igloo showed that they have potential, albeit dramatically inconsistent (based on two tourneys). I agree with the prior poster, though. Fall is really meaningless. Teams will have different kids on them by the summer and coaches with be more in tune with their players' strengths and weaknesses.



Why was there an assumption that the HB's would be taking a step back?


No really good additions, they are much weaker at the lefty attack position, they lost a fairly decent face-off kid and had negative coaching change.



This team will be lucky to make through this year intact, which is a shame because it is a good team.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.
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That's hysterical, Manhasset parents are all about 2 things, Drama and playing little Johnny the whole game. Enjoy the honeymoon
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.

That's hysterical, Manhasset parents are all about 2 things, Drama and playing little Johnny the whole game. Enjoy the honeymoon [/quote]

And equally funny; DK "is" Drama and Trash Talk
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.


Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022



Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.


Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022


d pole was playing up


Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???
I
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact: there is not a single 2022 player on shore2shore. Every single player on the team is 2023.

Fact: The reason you don't know more abt s2s is because the team was formed by a group of parents that has rejected the trash talk and drama of travel lacrosse to create a positive environment for their kids to thrive.


Fact: They are not that good.
Fact: defensman plays on Express 2022


d pole was playing


You kidding right?

Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team???
Ok. So if there are NO 2022 players whatsoever than what about that 2022 defenseman? And how about those ex-Minutemen players? Wasn't that a 2022 team??? [/quote]

There are 2 players from that minutemen team: the defenseman you speak of and an attackman. Neither are 2022- they both played up on the minutemen. They are both in 5th grade - they are legit 2023 players. If you are going to accuse, please do your homework. Anyone else you think is a 6th grader?
100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.
What are you talking about..they should be in 6th grade? Those 2 players are and should be in 5th grade. Do your homework. You sound stupid now making things up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.


So let me get this straight. Little Johnny and (his full ride to Duke, Hopkins, wherever) team lost to a bunch of kids I have not been secretly checking out (WEIRD) for years to see how Johnny compare and so they must be cheaters because I don't know them.

Oh man this is great entertainment. I have my popcorn ready.
I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.


where have you been? At the younger ages its doable. As the boys get older it gets more competitive. Last year the boys tried out for 2022 but it was decided not to play up again. These were south shore thunder boys. That team had 2022 and 2023 kids some of which played for minutemen. Its not a conspiracy. They were playing with their friends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have never heard of a boy playing "up" on travel Club team. Nobody does that. Town/PAL yes because they are age based--- but NEVER travel. Something doesn't sound right.


where have you been? At the younger ages its doable. As the boys get older it gets more competitive. Last year the boys tried out for 2022 but it was decided not to play up again. These were south shore thunder boys. That team had 2022 and 2023 kids some of which played for minutemen. Its not a conspiracy. They were playing with their friends.



In other words, by birth date and NY school cutoff dates for enrollmemt in kindergarten, these are kids that should/could be in 6th grade, but for whatever reason are not, so techincally speaking they are in 5th grade and playing on grade, but in reality should/could play on a 6th grade team with kids their own age.

I don't understand why teams don't own up to this practice. There is a loophole in the current system that every travel team takes advantage of. The best is when kids who are the same age as my son but in a grade lower (for whatever reason) play on a 2023 team and the parents say the kids are "playing up," and then when they realize their sons can be standouts playing on a team in their actual grade, they pull them down to play on a 2024 team where they are now playing against kids in their own grade who might actually be a whole year or more younger.

Every team has a few of these kids and it's not against the rules, so why not own up to it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
100% They SHOULD be in 6th grade.


so what? legal in grade based tourneys and legal by US lax standards. get used to it btw. only going to happen more going forward.
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?



do what you think is best for your kid assuming you can afford private. You know these "reclasses" were at kindergarten. you're head is going to explode in 8th grade when half the teams are a year older
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?


Your 5th grader probably wouldn't know if he was held back? You're joking right? If he was that far removed from reality, I think you would need to consider something a lot more drastic.
Any teams going to Lehigh next weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any teams going to Lehigh next weekend?


What tourney?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?

If you want him to make any of these holdback club teams you should consider it.
Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?


This is sarcasm, right?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.


8th grade is when you repeat. Do it for lax so you can Improve chances of going ivy and change your kids life trajectory.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should I re-class my son now at 5th grade, or wait until next year?
What about holding him back? He probably won't know. Is it ok?


This is sarcasm, right?

YES. Based upon crazy 91, Express, Igloo parents wanting to put their kids in lower grades so their little Johnny can be on the starting line with younger kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hold back your 5th grader, why would you even consider that. Too be better in lacrosse. This isn't football, basketball, baseball, where superstar players have a shot at making millions in a sport after college. A lax player may make 10 grand a year in the MLL. What's the upside, I don't get it. Ill tell you this, had my parents held me back in 5th grade, I would have been devastated. All my friends go to 6 th grade, I stay a 5 th grader. The reason for this isn't academic, isn't social skills, isn't being ill. The reason is lacrosse. Crazy how insane parents have become.


8th grade is when you repeat. Do it for lax so you can Improve chances of going ivy and change your kids life trajectory.

Bingo!!
You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.


I know some holdbacks that won't even be able to get a scholarship to Dowling, lol!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're an absolute idiot if you ever hold your kid back for lacrosse reasons.

Well, I hope you like idiots because you'll be surrounded by them as long as your kid continues to play.
I'd say 25 percent idiots. I surround myself with the other 75 percent. Leaving a kid back to play lax against younger kids. Give me s break. All for maybe 8 grand off a college tuition. My kid is graduating with his friends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'd say 25 percent idiots. I surround myself with the other 75 percent. Leaving a kid back to play lax against younger kids. Give me s break. All for maybe 8 grand off a college tuition. My kid is graduating with his friends.


Good luck with that holdback Dowling scholarship. Lollollol2
Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?
The kids won. They practiced for an hour, ran a short scrimmage, and worked EMO at both ends. no drama.
That's the way it should be. Two very good clubs working together to get the kids better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?


Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?


Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.

it was clear the Badgers were the better team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the igloo vs. honey badger scrimmage last Wednesday night?


Apparently you think your kids team did. No one cares. It was a scrimmage. And, it's fall.

it was clear the Badgers were the better team


It's clear this is not from a parent with a kid on either team. Go away.
Really? What a moron.it was a glorified practice
No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!

well, maybe one parent/ ex-coach.
Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.


Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.


Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...



Phew. So they cheated last year, but not his year. There were 3 kids that were playing DOWN. You told me about two. The third is on S2S. FACT. Good Coaching. Good recruiting. Great organization. Goo times. Long Island staying classy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not trying to stir things up here, but I've been told that one of the new teams in this age group has 2-3 players that are actually in 6th grade. Being that club lacrosse on LI is grade based, isn't this CHEATING? I am pretty sure that these kids played on another team last year and followed their Farmingdale based coach to their new team. Imagine being a quality 5th grader, yet losing out on a lot of playing time because your organization is willing to cheat and have a kid(s) play in 2023 even though they are 2022? I have heard this from more then one source, by the way.



Again, there are no 6th graders on S2S - NONE. Everyone is a 5th grader. There was a 5th grader last year on the 4th grade Igloo team that was coached by the F'Dale guy(that all the Igloo higher-ups knew about and were ok with). He is not on S2S and is a current member of the 6th grade Outlaws Select team (very good player). The other player everyone is concerned about is from Manhattan - he has a fall birthday but is a 5th grader.

Everyone please stop with the "older kid" nonsense. They are a good team with really good coaching...

So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb!
Phew. So they cheated last year, but not his year. There were 3 kids that were playing DOWN. You told me about two. The third is on S2S. FACT. Good Coaching. Good recruiting. Great organization. Goo times. Long Island staying classy. [/quote]

Igloo cheated last year - not S2S...
So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb! [/quote]

Please tell me which team of the following do not have a kid with a fall BDay: Igloo, Bandits, Honey Badgers or Outlaws.

The answer is none - they all have kids with bdays in the fall (and some with bdays in the spring and summer of 2004).

S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004.

Again, whoever is saying that they have 6th graders is trying to stir the pot. S2S is all age appropriate. Let it go...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So to be clear, there's a few kids that by NYS standards should be in 6th grade but have been held back to 5th. Supperb!


Please tell me which team of the following do not have a kid with a fall BDay: Igloo, Bandits, Honey Badgers or Outlaws.

The answer is none - they all have kids with bdays in the fall (and some with bdays in the spring and summer of 2004).

S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004.

Again, whoever is saying that they have 6th graders is trying to stir the pot. S2S is all age appropriate. Let it go... [/quote]

Who cares? So your little kid is not on the best team? Try out for S2S next year. They have played one tourney. They're good, but lets wait till the Spring before you all crap yourselves. Igloo looked great on Columbus Day, but not so great last time out. Badgers looked awesome last year, but the pack has clearly caught up with them. This is how it works so please don't act surprised in the Spring when it all changes again. Everyone needs to realize that any team can win on any given day. That's what makes it interesting. And yes, every team has holdbacks. All of them. There's nothing wrong with that based on the rules of most LI tourneys. Get over it.
Spring of 2004 should be 2022

The school year 2023 in ny state is December 1 2014 - November 30 2015.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spring of 2004 should be 2022

The school year 2023 in ny state is December 1 2014 - November 30 2015.




Understood - AGAIN, S2S is all US Lacrosse eligible - born after 9/1/2004. All grade appropriate, all in 5th grade.

By the way every other state where lacrosse is relevant uses a 9/1 cut-off which is why US Lacrosse uses it.

Can we please move on...

HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny
Sure about that 9/1/04 cutoff? Check again S2S dad. Lefty attackman on S2S has January 04 birthday. Any PAL coach can confirm. No secret. Could he be in 5th grade? Could be. But stop with the US Lacrosse date nonsense. He's clearly way older. His coach cheated with Igloo last year. So when there's smoke there's usually fire.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny

That can't be a coach writing that stuff, they would never make such a false statement.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny



So somebody puts together a team that is not a traditional power and they win so of course they must be cheating? They are all in 5th grade - I am not sure how many times it must be said. Instead of excuses why not take the high road and congratulate them on a good win?

I am guessing there will be many more competitive games in the future at this age. Enjoy it. All of that is good for LI lacrosse...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
HAHAH Funny how the S2S coach is so eager to "move on" and stop discussing their older players and cheating..Too Funny



So somebody puts together a team that is not a traditional power and they win so of course they must be cheating? They are all in 5th grade - I am not sure how many times it must be said. Instead of excuses why not take the high road and congratulate them on a good win?

I am guessing there will be many more competitive games in the future at this age. Enjoy it. All of that is good for LI lacrosse...

I assume you mean at this grade, as they wouldn't qualify for age based.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No parent from either team is writing this junk!

Everyone was happy with the practice and I for one hope we do it on a regular basis.

The negativity comes from haters!!!!!



No one who was there wrote this or you would know what the scrimmage was about. Go worry about your own team instead of being a wash woman looking for gossip.
Igloo went with daddy coaches for 2023. They were dishonest about coaching staff from the beginning. One figurehead coach and two screaming slimy daddies running the show. Their kids get outsized playing time while we pay above market prices.
So clearly your not apart of this team, because the parents are very happy with the program, the coaches, the team, the players, the practices, the fields, etc. Don't know where you getting your info from, but its clearly not correct. See the only opinion that matters is the families involved with this team.. And we are all very happy, don't hate because we have a good thing. Thanks.
I guess you and I should have a chat at the next game. My son has been on the team for 2 years no and Iwe are far from happy, and I know several other families who feel the same way. AA was dishonest at the start and its obvious now why he did it the way he did
2 SLIMY DADDIES? u serious?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo went with daddy coaches for 2023. They were dishonest about coaching staff from the beginning. One figurehead coach and two screaming slimy daddies running the show. Their kids get outsized playing time while we pay above market prices.
BM the ultimate Troll.
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

Don't feed into his BS or insanity
If you are unhappy,leave! Shame on you for staying.Don't disrupt the chemistry on this team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are unhappy,leave! Shame on you for staying.Don't disrupt the chemistry on this team.

This guy isn't on the team, he's just stirring it up from the outside. Igloo has a completely open dialogue between parents and ownership, emails and cell numbers are clearly posted on the website. Only a fool would use this platform to complain.
Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.
You are what's wrong with parents nowadays. Youre 'stuck' because your son likes the uniforms? WOW! Way to be a parent! Don't stand up for what YOU believe is Right!? let your child dictate his future. Im sure he doesn't overhear conversations that you have about this either. "its ok that my team cheats, we look sick in these uniforms." project that out 20yrs.. "its ok we robbed that bank, look at my new suits "
Teach your kid YOUR VALUES!
Warning to Parents:
Travel lacrosse is not rec league or PAL. Its meant for kids who are looking to compete against the best, regardless of a few months of age.
Baltimore, DC, Boston, and Philly are not playing by the same rules as LI. They have mastered the holdback and its only getting worse. Do yourself a favor and get used to it, its actually probably better to play against older kids now so they get used to it.
Worry about your own kids growth and not wins and losses.
If your upset with your club, have some balls and call the coach or owner..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.




So your son was on this team last year -- you were unhappy then. You had your son try out and accept a spot again this year. Your still unhappy. But you won't leave because your son likes the uniform? Dude noone is taking you as a credible source of information. You have serious issues. Seems your the complainer that noone wants to stand near on the sidelines. Someone should inform you maybe you should handle your matter privately. You sound like a psycho!
Maybe you should move your son to another team where they don't have holdbacks. Hahahahahahahaha. Good luck with your search!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.


The whole SH thing was orchestrated last year and unfolded at Stowe. He was always going to be the coach. Wait until next year when PS is gone and SH is the head coach. SH destroyed the 2023 Manhasset 32 program and will destroy the 2023 Igloo program - nobody wants to play for him. The only kid he cares about is his own. There are a lot of unhappy people who feel there was a lot of sneaky, under the table dealings that went on...
AA SH PS JC Go Away angry Igloo daddy. before next installment check is due
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah. I have AA's phone #. And all of your #s on Team Snap too. But this forum is to shine light on dishonest practices to inform future parents. AA lied to us last year when he said no holdbacks on the team. Anyone on the team last year was at that first meeting and can confirm. And yet there were holdbacks then and we have holdbacks now. Yes, it's ok under grade-based rules but that's not what AA claimed. And he lied when he said he didn't know there was a kid a grade older on the team. JC knew and said it was discussed at beginning of season. And he lied this year when he pretended that SH wasn't going to coach. Please that deal was done way before tryouts. We all knew it. My son loves the uniforms so I'm stuck. But don't think for a minute that I'm happy or trust the organization. You can cover it up. But truth is truth.


The whole SH thing was orchestrated last year and unfolded at Stowe. He was always going to be the coach. Wait until next year when PS is gone and SH is the head coach. SH destroyed the 2023 Manhasset 32 program and will destroy the 2023 Igloo program - nobody wants to play for him. The only kid he cares about is his own. There are a lot of unhappy people who feel there was a lot of sneaky, under the table dealings that went on...

This team is two years old and has a ton of insider scams, rigged coaching, and rigged tryouts.
Yeah Angry Igloo dad
JUMBLE Those initials=ASSCHAPS (or close to it)LOL
that's what you need
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AA SH PS JC Go Away angry Igloo daddy. before next installment check is due



Sorry SH
You Manhasset people are tough. A guy takes his kid out of town and it's a scandal?? Have to imagin the group that took the rest of the team to S2S had more to do with the teams issues than one kid and a coach leaving. If that gets you upset you'll never be prepared for the insanity that lies ahead.
You know a lot of parent get smoke blown up there you know what by these travel teams Telling them they will not loose a game? Making package deals to get certain kids on a team only to cut the package kid later. Sometime our. Kids (and parents) just loose. It happens. S2S lost in last game and came back and played a bit better in second game and won. That's why we play the games. No illusions that they will beet them next time, but good to see there is real competition. That's what it should be about. Rather have my son loose a 8-7 game then win 11-0. Looking forward to spring and how things shake out. First time on this site and boy do folks take 5thgrade lax way took serious. My guy is 5th grader and don't care what sore losers say about S2S. The kids work hard and love playing for DK. Bottom line is don't believe the hype most of these teams sell you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.

I thought it was JC from True Blue that no parent wants on their sideline yelling at the kids and doesn't know their names.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You Manhasset people are tough. A guy takes his kid out of town and it's a scandal?? Have to imagin the group that took the rest of the team to S2S had more to do with the teams issues than one kid and a coach leaving. If that gets you upset you'll never be prepared for the insanity that lies ahead.


You are half correct. They, and other towns, only get upset if you take a top skilled kid(s) out of town. You can take the less skilled players of the grade and play for your rival town and no one will care. Oh wait, but it's about town pride. Lesson learned: Do whatever you want with your own kid and never look back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


There you go again Mrs/Mrs Obvious. Stop dragging our team into this BS. All our kids loved playing for both coaches last year. You're in the minority. You complained last year and now that it's different you complain again. Just let it be. You're a cancer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.


Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.


Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.


thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take them intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.


Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.


Well if you are going to be like that then I'll just have to show you mine. And keep on bashing.

thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.


Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.


thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Said the a anonymous poster!
BM dug his own hole with the team and by constantly coming on here and stiring it up he only managed to destroy any goodwill he had left.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's only one coach in this grade no one wants to play for and he's currently roaming the parents sidelines watching the express.


I've known BM for many years. None of my boys play for Express. Our older boys played together in the past. I watched him and AJ create that team from nothing and make it into a very competitve team. If you're a parent on the team today, you're an idiot to sit there and trash the coach who made your kid a lacrosse player. If you are a parent he cut, move on already and if you are one of those who left because you couldn't take the intensity of driving the kids to get better, you're just an AH because it only gets more intense.

He puts in countless hours to make your kids better yet you still bash him. It's honestly crazy to sit here and read the crap you write. Be gratefull that he did what he did because that team would be nowhere if it weren't for him.

If you are so brave; go tell him face to face what you think. See how that works out.


Sorry Mrs. BM, I take it all back.


thank you and I knew you didn't have the LAX BALLS

Said the a anonymous poster!
BM dug his own hole with the team and by constantly coming on here and stiring it up he only managed to destroy any goodwill he had left.


My guess; he probably could care less. Seems to be enjoying the freedom.
Bandits, playing up again.
Bandits are going to have a hard time getting by Channy's 2022 team. This will bring the Bandits down to earth to see what its like to play age based. The most beneficial aspect of this is they are playing against kids their own age and will be a good indication of their opponents in Florida.
Except the BANDITS are playing up and will NOT be playing kids there own age. For two boys that are older but on grade the entire team should not be generalized. The stronger players are all 10. Plus at least they are playing UP. If the express is so strong why would they not challenge themselves and play 2021? Regardless this is what JS does with all his teams play them up and challenge themselves if they lose they lose. Back to earth occurs when ANYBODY their own grade makes them sweat. Would like to see more teams challenge themselves up instead of down
Being that express beat Smash I would expect Bandits to struggle but that's how you improve! Kudos to them
who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?
Outlaws combo is a mixture of black and select players. Same with the 2022 outlaws. King of hard to field a team thanksgiving weekend so they combined both so they had enough to field a team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Outlaws has a B team at 2023? Sounds like money grab.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?

Outlaws has a B team at 2023? Sounds like money grab.


what's the alternative if your kid cant make A yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are going to have a hard time getting by Channy's 2022 team. This will bring the Bandits down to earth to see what its like to play age based. The most beneficial aspect of this is they are playing against kids their own age and will be a good indication of their opponents in Florida.


You can't be serious?? Check Channy's roster. There are definitely holdbacks. Just as there are on every other lacrosse team on LI. You're going to need a better excuse than that when they lose to a younger team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is the outlaws combo team? leftovers of the select and black? some 2024 kids?


Select and Black. No 2024. They are doing the same thing with the 2024 teams.
Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?
Express is a very old 2022 team which has allowed them to narrow the gap w Smash even beating them. Wouldn't expect Bandits to stay close . Do admire them challenging themselves up but this is a talk task.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?


Their kids have SAT prep
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?

Because DK was ousted from Igloo and doesn't want to play Igloo. He was replaced by daddy coaches and rigged rosters. Ask AA he'll tell you.
Igloo is not playing.
Hey look who's back. The Igloo troll!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo and S2S are not playing this weekend. Why not?


Their kids have SAT prep


What, no private tutors? Cant they come after the tourney?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


Still getting over the STS battles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


Still getting over the STS battles.


nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


Still getting over the STS battles.


nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.


Stop making excuses. Badgers are just not good enough to compete with Bandits. Never were but even more so this year. They struggled with Igloo and lost to us.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


Still getting over the STS battles.


nah, bandits coach will bring junior the 6th grader who should be in 7th and have him play the whole game. you'll see the pic on social media tomorrow afternoon.


You played?

Stop making excuses. Badgers are just not good enough to compete with Bandits. Never were but even more so this year. They struggled with Igloo and lost to us.
Great game express 22 vs Bandits express won 11-8 great sportsmanship both ways Between players and coaches Jr did not play so there goes That theory
11-8 and Jr didn't play? Express is fixing for a tuff summer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11-8 and Jr didn't play? Express is fixing for a tuff summer


All the haters better get little Johnnie on the wall.
11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.



Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.
Was at the game as I posted on 22 board I had a score of 11-7 Our midfielders were just too big and strong but I was Really impressed with skill and grit of the bandits. Having been through this for awhile it was very refreshing to see the mutual respect between players coaches and even parents !! Great day great weather
Having never seen the Bandits...what makes them an excellent team?
Were the Bandits playing on age? They must be reeling from the loss. Tough to take when you go around bragging and tweeting like the do. Guess,when you're on top, there's only one place to go!
Discipline
Work Ethic
Focus
Skill level
Tenacity
You are a loser.they were playing up
I know you all love talking about the Badgers and Bandits. Can anyone tell me how the other 2023 teams did today? The Tourney App hasn't been updated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.



Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.


its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was at the game as I posted on 22 board I had a score of 11-7 Our midfielders were just too big and strong but I was Really impressed with skill and grit of the bandits. Having been through this for awhile it was very refreshing to see the mutual respect between players coaches and even parents !! Great day great weather
.

How dramatic. You make it seem like the US and Soviets getting along in the 80's. It's freakin youth lacrosse. Why would people especially kids not "get along " ? I guess because of nuts like you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Were the Bandits playing on age? They must be reeling from the loss. Tough to take when you go around bragging and tweeting like the do. Guess,when you're on top, there's only one place to go!


Playing up hater, looks like you are going to have to save this post for a while. Dope!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.



Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.


its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.


I prefer the comparison to Crush, no breath holding needed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.


Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
11-6 was the score of the Express game. 91 Bandits is an excellent team.



Excellent is right. Clearly the best 2023 team in the country.


its 5th grade. Look at smash. Dont hold your breath too long.


I prefer the comparison to Crush, no breath holding needed.


same difference
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.


Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.


ask the kids
How did the actual 2023 bracket go?
Any MD 2023 comp for Bandits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits, playing up again.


Badgers playing 2023. Ducking the Bandits already???


bandits have to play up with 2022 kids playing on team.


Nice try, you'll have to come up with a better BS story than that.


ask the kids


I hear they have high school kids, no wait, they are cyborgs! Lying jerk! Why try to ruin the success of 5th grade kids. Jerk!
How did the 2023 bracket go
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?
Did anyone watch any of the other 2023 games???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?


Here is what they are saying, it's fall ball, who cares. Easy way out for the organization.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?


Here is what they are saying, it's fall ball, who cares. Easy way out for the organization.


So I'm guessing that means badgers and Channy both lost to GC and Outlaws! Awesome!
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?


Badgers won all of their games easily. 3-0.
Badgers easily beat GC , Outlaws & Channy.
Channy beat GC and Outlaws. By a lot.
Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack up

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers easily beat GC , Outlaws & Channy.


It was the worst tournament. Not worth spending a day at the fields.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack up



The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).
Kids playing the game that they enjoy and having fun doing it. You should have went Black Friday shopping and been miserable doing it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack

The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).


The Express teams you beat was a Christmas team at best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Curious north beat express , outlaws 5/6 team, and legacy. Curious where north
Team stand was the legacy team an a or aa team. I am a both parent not looking
To start nonsense looking to see where we stack

The stronger teams were in the other bracket. Legacy had a decent A team last year, but for some reason many of the boys went elsewhere. They combined the B team with the remaining A players. They are a competitive B team as currently built. Express Haugen, Express Channy, Outlaws and GC would be considered A teams (to varying degrees).


The Express teams you beat was a Christmas team at best.


Huh?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.


Channy beat outlaws and GC?
Your all [lacrosse] crazy, badgers are good bandits are better no doubt. What's the big deal? O wait your kid didn't make an A team and your pissed we understand.
We may never know the final scores since they still haven't updated the tourney machine app. What BS. Worst run tournament ever.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your all [lacrosse] crazy, badgers are good bandits are better no doubt. What's the big deal? O wait your kid didn't make an A team and your pissed we understand.


It is You're not your....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.


Channy beat outlaws and GC?


No
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.


Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.


Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.

Yeah, sounds about right. Bandits are 1 year hold backs, but MD has two year hold backs!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!


The channy team has about 30 kids on the roster and the third team can't consistently throw and catch. Gotta be hard for those parents that forked over all that money. And I know some on the 3rd team were told the 2 teams would be about even. I'm all for all kids getting a chance to play at all levels, all a-b-c team nonsense aside. But not getting a lot of playing time on one team and getting blown out on the other each game must be tough. The ball is constantly in their end. At least charge lower teams less. Or give more practice time.

Badgers looked good as always.


Look good??? They didn't play any team with talent. Maryland teams will crush them.


All of them? Wow. Maryland must be awesome. Give it a rest. All LI A division teams have talent. So do Md AA division teams. The Badgers already lost to an LI team. The will probably lose to a Maryland team or 2. So will everyone else. They are still a very dominant club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!



TOTAL money grab I saw the Channy team and it looked like they had an entire team and a 1/2 on the bench. What a Pig Especially when you hand a team to your kid with 30 players on it. How can he possibly succeed? A lot of those kids will get NO time come spring
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know why the standings haven't been updated from yesterday?



Laziness. Or they dont want to show how some of the teams did.


Did you see any of the other games? Curious how the other teams did. Especially the Express teams since they did a total money grab this year and took everyone that tried out! Thinking that will come back to bite them!



TOTAL money grab I saw the Channy team and it looked like they had an entire team and a 1/2 on the bench. What a Pig Especially when you hand a team to your kid with 30 players on it. How can he possibly succeed? A lot of those kids will get NO time come spring


they're gonna have to figure something out. i can't imagine parents not starting to say something yet. teams do it because teams get away with it i guess. between that and the white team they're doing a huge disservice to the parents, kids, and coaches of those teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?




GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?




GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg


Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?




GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg


Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.


Did they beat anyone?
6th grade sized kid? Or a older boy playing down?


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?




GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg


Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.


Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.


Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.
I
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.


Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.


No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.


Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.


No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..

False, and you wouldn't know because you are limited in your experience with the Outlaws and 91. The point is that there are much better clubs who don't pull the bs that Outlaws or 91 pull. You are having a self proclaimed bad experience with your club. Do your research and look for a better club and move on next year. You'll be thankful in the long run.
Older kid playing down

Originally Posted by Anonymous
6th grade sized kid? Or a older boy playing down?


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how Badgers, Outlaws or GC did? Did Channy win any games?




GC looked pretty goot. But if you take away the coaches kid and that 6th grader they had on attack, they are well below avg


Good assessment. That attack men was going to hurt someone. He was running over kids. The coach finally took him out when it was getting to obvious. He plays with them sometime is the spring when he is not playing on his correct team.
The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did Outlaws do? They seem to have a pretty competitive team this season. They probably lost to Badgers, but how did they fare against GC?


Outlaws will be fine once spring comes. They had no coach this weekend it was a s**t show with coahing and subbing they used old plays from last year and didnt know some kids names and they still competed with the three teams. The head coach was not there but when he is and gets to know his kids they will be fine come spring.

Merry Christmas to all

Wow! What a post from either a parent or owner of the Outlaws. I'm speechless. I would never let my son play for Ourlaws. I've been fortunate to have a much better teaching and coaching experience as well as organization for the ANNUAL team fee, not Spring fee.

Hmmm... I wonder who wrote this? Someone who moved from Outlaws to Igloo maybe?? I wonder who that could be! Too funny! I have three sons that play travel. One of them plays for an Outlaws team (different grade level). The experience has be EXACTLY like my experience with my other two playing 91. I wouldn't touch Igloo with a 10 foot pole. I'm looking for stability and so far that organization has been anything but. Good luck with them and all of the coach chasing your future will hold.

There's a lot of other well run, organized, and very good coaches who show up to every game and who know their players names other than Igloo.


No one else charges an annual fee. Everyone else charges extra for winter, fall, etc..

False, and you wouldn't know because you are limited in your experience with the Outlaws and 91. The point is that there are much better clubs who don't pull the bs that Outlaws or 91 pull. You are having a self proclaimed bad experience with your club. Do your research and look for a better club and move on next year. You'll be thankful in the long run. [/quote]

"Self proclaimed bad experience"? Do you know what self-proclaimed means? I'm having a great experience with all of my boys' teams, and as far as I can tell, so are they. But please enlighten me, what are the "much better" clubs than 91 and Outlaws that charge a one-time annual fee? It shouldn't take you long to respond because there are none.
You're clueless. Have fun waiting for your coach to show up and know your kids name.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

Really?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs.


And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?



If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?



If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?


What's amazing is that the people getting paid never have a problem

If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!
sounds like they made the right decision not soliciting your input, hipefully they continue to do that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]The nonsense Igloo pulled this year was epic. AA telling parents who the coaches were and we're not going to be, certain individuals telling people he wouldn't coach and then after tryouts all of that changing and the lies being exposed. SO many unhappy parents on that team. Can't wait to see next years shakeup and fallout

You continue to post this over and over. Why do you give a sht?? They have 3 great coaches and the kids are getting better. BTW, if you haven't noticed there's always people who aren't happy, hopefully they can find a team that suits their unrealistic needs. [/quote}

And there are always people who will tell you what you want to hear until you pay them, and then they reveal the truth. Thyre called scumbags

So what's your point? Is your son on the team or are you just countinuing to stir it up with this garbage argument?



If you think complaining about having the program director and my kids future coach lie directly to my face prior to my giving them $3k is a garbage argument, you're part of the problem

Maybe, just maybe it's you who has the problem. Do you find yourself complaining about everything instead of just enjoying your kid getting better. You people did the same thing to the express and igloo coaches last year. No ones good enough to coach your little Johnny!!


Was I complaining about "everything" or was I simply pointing out the displeasure of being lied to by the programs director and the person he hired to coach my son.. Would you be happy if you were paying someone and entrusting them with your son and they lied to you SH ?
given how wronged you feel I'm assuming you cut bait and didn't make the 2nd payment this weekend. I feel sorry for the next organization you go to.
Bob, steo away from the computer. You do realize your not part of this team right?
How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too


who really cares...he makes it work
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is JS going to coach 3 teams this summer at the same time, plus the Lizards?? He is now listed as a YJ coach too


He's God... Didn't you know that?
he's Squiggy
Not a fan but the guy just Wins and wins
What are some top out of state teams that can compete w LI teams Bandits will be the Bandits, express will be different with coaching change as Well as igloo, warriors and STS
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.


Not entirely true. But I think the poster was talking about the top 5 teams in general, not just the Bandits. I think there are definitely some teams that can compete. Laxachusettes Black is solid, Looney's in MD are good too. There are actually a few other teams in Md that will beat many of the top 5 LI teams mentioned; not all the time, of course, but definitely have a shot.
And don't discount the team from Canada who made a lot of appearances last year. They may not have won some games but they were only a goal away in many cases. They had a lot of talent. They just need to fine tune. Never know what another year of training will bring.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And don't discount the team from Canada who made a lot of appearances last year. They may not have won some games but they were only a goal away in many cases. They had a lot of talent. They just need to fine tune. Never know what another year of training will bring.


Edge? I didn't see them last year. I heard that they like to bring down older kids, but that may just be talk.
Clueless
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.


then why when they play up do they need their "guest" player. they are playing more competitive games playing up but this will all level out in a couple years. no one ever said I was on the greatest 5th grade lacrosse team. sit back and enjoy the ride while it lasts. 20 goals plus is an example no coach should be setting at this age. get some perspective people.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.



smash said the same thing last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.



smash said the same thing last year.

Boobaloobalu
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no team out there on age that can compete. They are in their own league.

If your sons team has played them you understand.

If your sons team has not played them yet, get ready to see 20+ goals go in.



smash said the same thing last year.

Boobaloobalu

gungagalunga
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team



one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team



one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team



one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

Olympic Lacrosse? Who Knew?
I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team


Yes. And if this guy got suckered into dropping even more coin on a different type of lacrosse, in addition to his kid's PAL and regular travel team, then how dare you question its viability! Of course it makes them better! The Canadians won the Olympics! I think that was the same year they put a man on the moon!


one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.
did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over 'till we say its over!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over 'till we say its over!
Germans?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over 'till we say its over!
Germans?


What the [lacrosse]???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over 'till we say its over!
Germans?


forget it he's rolling
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team


Yes. And if this guy got suckered into dropping even more coin on a different type of lacrosse, in addition to his kid's PAL and regular travel team, then how dare you question its viability! Of course it makes them better! The Canadians won the Olympics! I think that was the same year they put a man on the moon!


one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.


was I talking to you?
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It ain't over 'till we say its over!
Germans?


What the [lacrosse]???


You've never seen Animal House???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 Bandits do in the box tournament?


Lost in championship to a team from Ottawa Canada. Nice tournament express 22 Mesa, Philly Wings, tri state, BBL and a team from Alleghany reservation. The Ottawa team was very skilled and very large beat everyone by a bunch. Our express team played them tight early then they pulled away second half,they were twice the size of every team


Yes. And if this guy got suckered into dropping even more coin on a different type of lacrosse, in addition to his kid's PAL and regular travel team, then how dare you question its viability! Of course it makes them better! The Canadians won the Olympics! I think that was the same year they put a man on the moon!


one "kid" had facial hair. Its ice hockey without skates. Not sure if it translates into better lax players. Almost a different sport.

I call your post and say that you were not there. If you were and your son played Box, you'd know why the Canadians won the Olympics, Denver won, and who the Thompsons are.


was I talking to you?


Only if you are a Penguin.
What are the Bandits trying to prove paying all that money to play pathetically weak competition. This tournament has gone downhill rapidly. Seems like a joke! Dicks could care less. Has not even updated the website since 2013
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the Bandits trying to prove paying all that money to play pathetically weak competition. This tournament has gone downhill rapidly. Seems like a joke! Dicks could care less. Has not even updated the website since 2013

You sound like sour grapes. Your son got cut from the team.
You must be looking at a different website because one I looked at is updated It is a great mid winter championship,format tournament Not sure they have too much more to prove they are playing up against older comp. 91 and express have long been involved in this tournament as has igloo, and a host of others. Stop hating and have a catch with your boy or bring him to a clinic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must be looking at a different website because one I looked at is updated It is a great mid winter championship,format tournament Not sure they have too much more to prove they are playing up against older comp. 91 and express have long been involved in this tournament as has igloo, and a host of others. Stop hating and have a catch with your boy or bring him to a clinic


Why so negative. Was only pointing out that they have no competition in Florida. Did not see one other competitive team in the mix. Used to be a prestigious tournament. Does not look that way anymore. Just wondering, what does my son's lax skills have to do with this? Paranoid much?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must be looking at a different website because one I looked at is updated It is a great mid winter championship,format tournament Not sure they have too much more to prove they are playing up against older comp. 91 and express have long been involved in this tournament as has igloo, and a host of others. Stop hating and have a catch with your boy or bring him to a clinic


Why so negative. Was only pointing out that they have no competition in Florida. Did not see one other competitive team in the mix. Used to be a prestigious tournament. Does not look that way anymore. Just wondering, what does my son's lax skills have to do with this? Paranoid much?


Btw, no other no other 91 or Express team is there! Seems as if other top teams are not in attendance anymoe. A shame!
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


They are in the u11 bracket where they belong. 5th graders have already started turning 11. If they were playing up they would be in u13, no? Should be a bunch of blowouts, definitely not worth the cost of travel. But people can spend their money any way they wish. Good luck and have fun!
Which is I'm sure exactly why they are there ! Which my sons team was there good luck igloo and bandits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


pretty sure they have a 12 year old playing for them also
Why go to Tampa where it's in the mid 80s and sunny to play some lax. I'd much rather be sitting around on a rainy day sharing my opinions on a lax blog...lol.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why go to Tampa where it's in the mid 80s and sunny to play some lax. I'd much rather be sitting around on a rainy day sharing my opinions on a lax blog...lol.


Plenty of kids playing lax outside here on LI the past week, weathers been great! and saved $$$$$. Heard Dicks now has the nerve to charge for parking too? Not enough that they run a non-competitive tournament in the middle of nowhere and charge a fortune for it!
As long as teams make age cutoff it is not an issue
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


pretty sure they have a 12 year old playing for them also


this tournament is set up as the last tournament for 2014-15 season and uses the age guidelines for last summer. So the teams should be 2022 and 2023 with age cut-off for u11 6/1/03. 2021 team wouldn't be eligible
Some young 2021 are eligible
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some young 2021 are eligible


Not likely, are there actually any 2021 in the u11 division? Or are you just making stuff up? Nsuf
6/1/2003 must be born after
Wish I was in Florida right now ...
Yes with a June birthdate so quit stirring the pot . Get the facts out from the start and end the long jib jab beat around the bush blogging about a kid who is legitimately eligible but you jeolous parents who hate on the dad insist otherwise that he is cheating .

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


pretty sure they have a 12 year old playing for them also
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes with a June birthdate so quit stirring the pot . Get the facts out from the start and end the long jib jab beat around the bush blogging about a kid who is legitimately eligible but you jeolous parents who hate on the dad insist otherwise that he is cheating .

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


pretty sure they have a 12 year old playing for them also



Lol. easy bro. all within the rules but just don't say they are a 2023 team playing up. Call them the bandits but its more like Bandits with a few special guests.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish I was in Florida right now ...


Who is this? One of the Bandits who got displaced by Jr and his friends?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes with a June birthdate so quit stirring the pot . Get the facts out from the start and end the long jib jab beat around the bush blogging about a kid who is legitimately eligible but you jeolous parents who hate on the dad insist otherwise that he is cheating .

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are only 2023 team in attendance all other teams are 2022 and 2021. If you look at the age cut off teams will have a number of 12 year olds


pretty sure they have a 12 year old playing for them also





Lol. easy bro. all within the rules but just don't say they are a 2023 team playing up. Call them the bandits but its more like Bandits with a few special guests.


Exactly, enjoy it because soon everyone will begin to grow, similar to the parents. Then things change!
The kid on the bench due to the legitimate age player showing up is who should be pissed
To be honest coach actually has not played him much at all and he does practice with the boys every time we practice. So he didn't just show up Happy new year

That team? Wrong again... you are just tired, bitter, angry and hateful that your little Johnnie is not good enough to be there in Florida with the Bandits (or anywhere with Crush). All that hate must sap you of any energy. If what you say is so true, then the roster would not be very long, now would it. Looks to me like they have LOTS and LOTS of Happy Campers. Count me in.
i have nothing to do with the Bandits but I think you are a complete loser
I have had enough of deleting all of this pure crap being posted about a kid. Are you people that stupid? Hate anyone you like but leave the children out of it. Knock it off now!!!
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
I have had enough of deleting all of this pure crap being posted about a kid. Are you people that stupid? Hate anyone you like but leave the children out of it. Knock it off now!!!


The fact that you needed to post this in 4 different age groups speaks volumes.
Please post the half-time score.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
I have had enough of deleting all of this pure crap being posted about a kid. Are you people that stupid? Hate anyone you like but leave the children out of it. Knock it off now!!!


The fact that you needed to post this in 4 different age groups speaks volumes.



Totally pathetic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please post the half-time score.


You're asking for people to post the score of a 5th grade lacrosse game?

Really? Nothing better to do?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please post the half-time score.


You're asking for people to post the score of a 5th grade lacrosse game?

Really? Nothing better to do?
Nope, no good bowl games. Maybe some video highlights on YouTube, too
Igloo wins handily! Guess that puts all the Bandits hype to rest. Good luck to Igloo in the championship! Go LI
Igloo won 6-3
Bandits lose 6-3
Great game Bandits represented 2023 very we'll played our boys so tough ! Our goalie was faboulous ! On to the Championship vs Arden
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great game Bandits represented 2023 very we'll played our boys so tough ! Our goalie was faboulous ! On to the Championship vs Arden


Not 2023, though. Nice job Igloo.
Great showing by Igloo and Bandits both are great 2022 teams looking forward to seeing them play again
OH OK Bandit downer .
Fact is one kid is the same age as the 2022 igloo complete team . So although bandits played up they are still overall 99% a 2023 team what part don't you get? 1- 12 yr old kid doesn't change the remainder of the 11 year olds into 12 year olds. What is it you cannot see . If your son still had the coaching they did you wouldn't always find the need to add negative comments against them.
Stop with the sour grapes because your kid got cut we all know who comes on here and after awhile is boils down to certain people . Give credit when credit is do !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great game Bandits represented 2023 very we'll played our boys so tough ! Our goalie was faboulous ! On to the Championship vs Arden


Not 2023, though. Nice job Igloo.
Happy new year
Who are top 10 2023 teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OH OK Bandit downer .
Fact is one kid is the same age as the 2022 igloo complete team . So although bandits played up they are still overall 99% a 2023 team what part don't you get? 1- 12 yr old kid doesn't change the remainder of the 11 year olds into 12 year olds. What is it you cannot see . If your son still had the coaching they did you wouldn't always find the need to add negative comments against them.
Stop with the sour grapes because your kid got cut we all know who comes on here and after awhile is boils down to certain people . Give credit when credit is do !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great game Bandits represented 2023 very we'll played our boys so tough ! Our goalie was faboulous ! On to the Championship vs Arden


Not 2023, though. Nice job Igloo.


Did you mean same age as 2021?
Did you just say the bandits are 11 years old. They are 2023, right? That's funny, my son's 2022 team is 99% 11 year olds. But I guess you don't see that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Happy new year
Who are top 10 2023 teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you just say the bandits are 11 years old. They are 2023, right? That's funny, my son's 2022 team is 99% 11 year olds. But I guess you don't see that.


Whoops!!!!
Bandits by far then Honey Badgers , Shore to Shore , Igloo then all the rest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits by far then Honey Badgers , Shore to Shore , Igloo then all the rest.


And then Express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits by far then Honey Badgers , Shore to Shore , Igloo then all the rest.


And then Express


honey badgers is express newbie. hopefully you're not talking about express C and D
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OH OK Bandit downer .
Fact is one kid is the same age as the 2022 igloo complete team . So although bandits played up they are still overall 99% a 2023 team what part don't you get? 1- 12 yr old kid doesn't change the remainder of the 11 year olds into 12 year olds. What is it you cannot see . If your son still had the coaching they did you wouldn't always find the need to add negative comments against them.
Stop with the sour grapes because your kid got cut we all know who comes on here and after awhile is boils down to certain people . Give credit when credit is do !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great game Bandits represented 2023 very we'll played our boys so tough ! Our goalie was faboulous ! On to the Championship vs Arden


Not 2023, though. Nice job Igloo.


The best thing about your comment is that you said there was only one 12 year old and the rest were 11's. And you're right. I don't disagree. Last time I checked, though, 5th graders are 10... Unless you stack the team with holdbacks. But thanks for helping me with my point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits by far then Honey Badgers , Shore to Shore , Igloo then all the rest.


Silliest comment ever. Igloo wasn't even in the discussion after the summer. Then they played well in one tournament and looked horrible in the next. Shore to Shore has only been together for a week and played in one tournament. They looked good, but beatable. Badgers are not as good as last year. Bandits are Bandits (apparently all 11 years old judging by that prior comment). Wait till spring. There are a lot of talented teams at this level.
Agree igloo and shore to shore Can't be ranked accurately
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits by far then Honey Badgers , Shore to Shore , Igloo then all the rest.


Silliest comment ever. Igloo wasn't even in the discussion after the summer. Then they played well in one tournament and looked horrible in the next. Shore to Shore has only been together for a week and played in one tournament. They looked good, but beatable. Badgers are not as good as last year. Bandits are Bandits (apparently all 11 years old judging by that prior comment). Wait till spring. There are a lot of talented teams at this level.


Shore to Shore, Honey Badgers and Igloo are a lot closer to "all the rest" than they are to the Bandits.
Badgers are clear 2 stop with these other teams trying to drag badgers onto their level
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers are clear 2 stop with these other teams trying to drag badgers onto their level


They lost all 3 games playing up in a subpar tournament against B teams and just recently lost to a team thrown together in a week. They are not by any means "clear 2". Igloo will beat them more often than not this year.
Bandits are so far above that the next team should be 3rd!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are so far above that the next team should be 3rd!


Should of stated from a 2022 dad

Badgers peaked years ago. a lot of parity between badgers, igloo, S2S
Do you realize how [lacrosse] you sound
Someone actually wrote badgers peaked years ago. Such a stupid statement. Einstein, they are 11 now. So when you say years ago, what do you mean. They peaked at 7 years old. So stupid man.
Those kids with the Igloo helmets are not on Igloo anymore either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone actually wrote badgers peaked years ago. Such a stupid statement. Einstein, they are 11 now. So when you say years ago, what do you mean. They peaked at 7 years old. So stupid man.


It's ok badger daddy. You're now just express 1. Badger identity, helmets, hear, logo is all gone. BM and the website are gone too. Your new identity isn't that cool. Still a good team but falling further from bandits and into the fray with s2s and igloo.
Not a badger daddy, just responding to a real idiotic statement. Do you read , what you type. Dosent that sound so stupid, saying 11 year olds peaked years ago. If you don't see it, have your friends or wife proof read your post before you send it. Goodbye.
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Do you realize how [lacrosse] you sound


[lacrosse]? Is that like Pop-tarted?

So stupid it's funny.
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Bandits are so far above that the next team should be 3rd!

Bandits are a great team no doubt but it is hard to route for a team that classifies itself as a 2023 when there are older kids on that team. When I was a kid travel meant going to the next town and if you were good enough you played with the older kids. It did not mean playing with younger kids. I know the argument for holdbacks but I think there needs to be more transparency regarding how many older kids are on ANY team. I play on a 40 and over hockey league and am creeping to the older league but you are allowed 2 players under 40. You are not allowed a majority of players to break the age limit. BUT I do enjoy watching those kids play.
It is good to play against older kids. Let teams cheat and play down so long as it is safe. Winning these tournaments and team rankings mean nothing. Your kid should be in this for fun and development as players. The kids who play the correct age will only get better and as many 2021 kids who played down for the top teams are finding out playing down has hurt them and many of those older 2021 kids who played down are now on B teams or playing proper age on B teams. They failed to develop as much as they could have playing down. There are a lot more kids that fail playing down than kids that succeed. We just hear more about the successful ones. Other than kids don't develop as much as they should playing down the only other issue is coaches and parents would like to know if the kids they are playing against are older so they can measure thier own kids development. It is hard to measure the development of a proper aged kid if he is playing against kids one to two years older without knowing ages. Hard to tell if the proper age kid got beat and looks slower or was the kid that beat him just older? Other than that who cares if you are playing against older kids so long as it is safe.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits are so far above that the next team should be 3rd!

Bandits are a great team no doubt but it is hard to route for a team that classifies itself as a 2023 when there are older kids on that team. When I was a kid travel meant going to the next town and if you were good enough you played with the older kids. It did not mean playing with younger kids. I know the argument for holdbacks but I think there needs to be more transparency regarding how many older kids are on ANY team. I play on a 40 and over hockey league and am creeping to the older league but you are allowed 2 players under 40. You are not allowed a majority of players to break the age limit. BUT I do enjoy watching those kids play.
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Not a badger daddy, just responding to a real idiotic statement. Do you read , what you type. Dosent that sound so stupid, saying 11 year olds peaked years ago. If you don't see it, have your friends or wife proof read your post before you send it. Goodbye.


The kids on my boy's team are 10. They are s very good team. Shore to Shote needs to settle down and so does Igloo. You did decently in the fall, but teams are not whole till the summer. Let's see how they do then. Badgers are stil decent, but yes, they have fallen. I would say that Igloo, STS, Badgers, Warriors, Outlaws and possibly Empie Green are a crap shoot. Any one of those teams could win on any day when they are at full strength ( which very few teams are in fall tourneys). If you disagree, you are delusional.

Badgers peaked years ago. a lot of parity between badgers, igloo, S2S[/quote]

Saying any kid "peaked" at 10 is a bit ridiculous. What we are seeing are kids maturing and getting better, individually. The individual talent across all these teams, including the Bandits is very similar. The differentiator will be the coaching. These boys are now able to grasp more complex offenses and defenses. The better coaches who can teach and motivate will find themselves with winning teams; those that can't will find themselves being behind. Just because you were a good/great college player doesn't mean you know how to teach and motivate.
I peaked at 10. Been downhill ever since ...
Being somewhat of an LI outsider who sees these teams on occasion at tourneys, I agree fully with the statement that it gets harder and harder for certain teams to kick [lacrosse] as the years pass. So, in that respect, the Badgers did peak (as a team relative to others, not as players).

As the boys hit these crucial years, even a casual observer can see that athletes developing is key. At the root of it all: coaching. Smart coaching separates teams to a large degree.

Having been part of the typical club lax lack of continuity with my son, I believe most clubs are mild messes. Not a hot mess, but not tight and smooth.

What 91 Bandits have done and continue to do in 2023 is very rare and maybe even special. To align coaches, talent, development and parents over years is very hard. Most club teams fail at this for all the obvious reasons.
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Being somewhat of an LI outsider who sees these teams on occasion at tourneys, I agree fully with the statement that it gets harder and harder for certain teams to kick [lacrosse] as the years pass. So, in that respect, the Badgers did peak (as a team relative to others, not as players).

As the boys hit these crucial years, even a casual observer can see that athletes developing is key. At the root of it all: coaching. Smart coaching separates teams to a large degree.

Having been part of the typical club lax lack of continuity with my son, I believe most clubs are mild messes. Not a hot mess, but not tight and smooth.

What 91 Bandits have done and continue to do in 2023 is very rare and maybe even special. To align coaches, talent, development and parents over years is very hard. Most club teams fail at this for all the obvious reasons.

2023?
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023
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What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy





Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy








Looneys and FCA were tops in baltimore last year for 2023. Crabs starts in 5th grade and should be good. Carroll Manor is a rec team. Most of their better kids are full time club now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy









Looneys and FCA were tops in baltimore last year for 2023. Crabs starts in 5th grade and should be good. Carroll Manor is a rec team. Most of their better kids are full time club now


Good catch. I would agree and put them above Patriots
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy







Interesting. Shore to Shore has played how many games as an organization? 6? And they're already 4th in the country? Impressive! Igloo won one weak fall tournament and they are #2? Even more impressive! Outlaws are a solid club, but probably below Warriors and Empire. Badgers seems about right. Warriors beat Empire a bunch last season so they're probably above them. Ranking teams at this stage of the season is nonsense. Especially considering that probably 3 of those NY teams have even played and MD teams. The only thing that is correct about that post is that the Bandits are on top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy







Interesting. Shore to Shore has played how many games as an organization? 6? And they're already 4th in the country? Impressive! Igloo won one weak fall tournament and they are #2? Even more impressive! Outlaws are a solid club, but probably below Warriors and Empire. Badgers seems about right. Warriors beat Empire a bunch last season so they're probably above them. Ranking teams at this stage of the season is nonsense. Especially considering that probably 3 of those NY teams have even played and MD teams. The only thing that is correct about that post is that the Bandits are on top.

Yeah, this list is a joke from someone, and to make it look like it is serious to the newcomer, they put Bandits 1st.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are top 5 out of state teams in 2023


I am interested as well but also interested in the best teams overall (not just inside or outside of NY).


Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda (MD)
Shore 2 shore
Patriots (NJ)
Badgers
Carol Manor (MD)
Outlaws
Empire
Warriors
Legacy







Interesting. Shore to Shore has played how many games as an organization? 6? And they're already 4th in the country? Impressive! Igloo won one weak fall tournament and they are #2? Even more impressive! Outlaws are a solid club, but probably below Warriors and Empire. Badgers seems about right. Warriors beat Empire a bunch last season so they're probably above them. Ranking teams at this stage of the season is nonsense. Especially considering that probably 3 of those NY teams have even played and MD teams. The only thing that is correct about that post is that the Bandits are on top.

Yeah, this list is a joke from someone, and to make it look like it is serious to the newcomer, they put Bandits 1st.


Will there be a tournament that all of these LI teams actually play in? Probably not... that would make too much sense.

League 1 League 2
Bandits Badgers
Shore to Shore Igloo
Outlaws Empire
Warriors Legacy

Play 2 league games and 2 crossover games throughout the spring. Keep standings with playoff format. Have a coaches meeting for seeding and place in appropriate league. Home and away games with each home team responsible for field and split ref cost.
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League 1 League 2
Bandits Badgers
Shore to Shore Igloo
Outlaws Empire
Warriors Legacy

Play 2 league games and 2 crossover games throughout the spring. Keep standings with playoff format. Have a coaches meeting for seeding and place in appropriate league. Home and away games with each home team responsible for field and split ref cost.

What about having True Blue in this list? This team is going all the way to beat the Bandits.Joe C. is going to lead the way!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
League 1 League 2
Bandits Badgers
Shore to Shore Igloo
Outlaws Empire
Warriors Legacy

Play 2 league games and 2 crossover games throughout the spring. Keep standings with playoff format. Have a coaches meeting for seeding and place in appropriate league. Home and away games with each home team responsible for field and split ref cost.

What about having True Blue in this list? This team is going all the way to beat the Bandits.Joe C. is going to lead the way!!


Is that Togo joe c?
Great idea.

Build up this age group so Long Island dominates in the future
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
League 1 League 2
Bandits Badgers
Shore to Shore Igloo
Outlaws Empire
Warriors Legacy

Play 2 league games and 2 crossover games throughout the spring. Keep standings with playoff format. Have a coaches meeting for seeding and place in appropriate league. Home and away games with each home team responsible for field and split ref cost.

What about having True Blue in this list? This team is going all the way to beat the Bandits.Joe C. is going to lead the way!!



OK you drank the JC juice....They have a good group but lets not get carried away, they have to beat a few top teams first. They will not catch the Bandits!!!!
I'm new to the forum. My little guy plays 2024. Question; when the Badgers played the Bandits they were epic games. A week in advance, there would be alot of trash talk leading up to a game you just had to see. Most of the time I would run over to watch it if the game didn't conflict with my sons game. The sidelines were pretty packed with parents who didn't have kids playing. Great rivalry. Why has that changed? Seems the feeling is the Bandits are in a league of their own.
Why have things changed so drastically in this grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
League 1 League 2
Bandits Badgers
Shore to Shore Igloo
Outlaws Empire
Warriors Legacy

Play 2 league games and 2 crossover games throughout the spring. Keep standings with playoff format. Have a coaches meeting for seeding and place in appropriate league. Home and away games with each home team responsible for field and split ref cost.

What about having True Blue in this list? This team is going all the way to beat the Bandits.Joe C. is going to lead the way!!



OK you drank the JC juice....They have a good group but lets not get carried away, they have to beat a few top teams first. They will not catch the Bandits!!!!

He promised us we would be the best. We are the best. Come see for yourself.
Lets discuss a season format!!! Standings, playoffs, all star games. End of year dinner. What are we doing????
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Lets discuss a season format!!! Standings, playoffs, all star games. End of year dinner. What are we doing????


Never will happen. Unless the clubs have their hands in the money pot; they will never allow their teams to be a part of it. MC is a complete AH.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm new to the forum. My little guy plays 2024. Question; when the Badgers played the Bandits they were epic games. A week in advance, there would be alot of trash talk leading up to a game you just had to see. Most of the time I would run over to watch it if the game didn't conflict with my sons game. The sidelines were pretty packed with parents who didn't have kids playing. Great rivalry. Why has that changed? Seems the feeling is the Bandits are in a league of their own.
Why have things changed so drastically in this grade.


Truthfully, they were never epic games. Bandits always won and most times it was not close. What happened is that kids got older. Some got better, some got bigger,some stayed the same. The bandits will always attract the top talent. They are the elite team in the age group and, despite what they will tell you, parents want their kids to play for them. There were issues with the Badgers coaching, yes, but that's not why they have dropped down to the rest of the pack. The fact is, it's a very strong age group. There are a lot of really great kids spread out on many good teams. It's not that the Badgers necessarily got worse, other clubs just got better.
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?

They fit in with the Hurricanes, Fighting Ducks, and Stampede.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?


Realistically, they would probably fall below Bandits, Badgers and Igloo and above Outlaws, Empire and Legacy.

At any given tournament, any of these teams (with the exception of the Bandits) could beat or lose to another. We'll see how it goes in the summer.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?

They fit in with the Hurricanes, Fighting Ducks, and Stampede.



Now THAT'S funny! This must be from an Empire parent! And I bet I can guess which one!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?


Realistically, they would probably fall below Bandits, Badgers and Igloo and above Outlaws, Empire and Legacy.

At any given tournament, any of these teams (with the exception of the Bandits) could beat or lose to another. We'll see how it goes in the summer.


Until the warriors beat someone other than themselves they will always be 91's c- team - they have splito games with empire true blue and legacy - haven't won a game against igloo - express team 1 -Outlaws or even shore 2 shore, maybe thus summer will be different but until they win some games against some competitive teams they will always be the other 91 team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?


Realistically, they would probably fall below Bandits, Badgers and Igloo and above Outlaws, Empire and Legacy.

At any given tournament, any of these teams (with the exception of the Bandits) could beat or lose to another. We'll see how it goes in the summer.


Until the warriors beat someone other than themselves they will always be 91's c- team - they have splito games with empire true blue and legacy - haven't won a game against igloo - express team 1 -Outlaws or even shore 2 shore, maybe thus summer will be different but until they win some games against some competitive teams they will always be the other 91 team


Agreed, they will always be the Bandits little brothers. My sons team played them a bunch last year and they're a solid team though. They played us tough and the games were always pretty close. They had our number in the last few tourneys. They are not close to Bandits and got blown out by Igloo in the fall, although I saw igloo play two weeks later and they were not nearly as good. Totally different team. Until Igloo, Warriors, Outlaws, Shore to Shore, Empire and Badgers play each other this is all garbage talk anyway.

If you judge by this fall, it looks like things should be very interesting this summer. Shore 2 Shore looked very legit for a new club, Badgers still looked good but within reach of the pack. Igloo is a mystery because they were so different at two separate showings, Legacy lost some quality kids and took a giant step back but still have some talent. Warriors will be good. Outlaws looked OK but much more beatlable than last year (have heard some uneven reviews from parents on the team, but things seem to be getting better). Our Empire team looks stronger than last year and we're definitely putting the time in this winter.

Rank them however you will (it doesn't mean crap till the summer), but I would say those are the teams in the pack below the bandits. Anyone that says different just hasn't been watching or thinks their sons team is just flat out better than it is. His team his closer to these teams than the Bandits.
Newby here: What happened to Express Team 2 Channy? Do they still have 29-30 kids on the team???
Is Zummo coaching the 2023 Legacy team now? Is that a "Taz" team now? Doesn't he already coach 2020 and 2024? Seems like he's spreading himself pretty thin. Or is he just putting his name on the team to keep interest like JS is doing at 91?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newby here: What happened to Express Team 2 Channy? Do they still have 29-30 kids on the team???


They played in some fall tourneys and I think I remember them putting them in a two teams. I'm not sure if they were broken up by ability or just randomly though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?


Realistically, they would probably fall below Bandits, Badgers and Igloo and above Outlaws, Empire and Legacy.

At any given tournament, any of these teams (with the exception of the Bandits) could beat or lose to another. We'll see how it goes in the summer.


Until the warriors beat someone other than themselves they will always be 91's c- team - they have splito games with empire true blue and legacy - haven't won a game against igloo - express team 1 -Outlaws or even shore 2 shore, maybe thus summer will be different but until they win some games against some competitive teams they will always be the other 91 team


Agreed, they will always be the Bandits little brothers. My sons team played them a bunch last year and they're a solid team though. They played us tough and the games were always pretty close. They had our number in the last few tourneys. They are not close to Bandits and got blown out by Igloo in the fall, although I saw igloo play two weeks later and they were not nearly as good. Totally different team. Until Igloo, Warriors, Outlaws, Shore to Shore, Empire and Badgers play each other this is all garbage talk anyway.

If you judge by this fall, it looks like things should be very interesting this summer. Shore 2 Shore looked very legit for a new club, Badgers still looked good but within reach of the pack. Igloo is a mystery because they were so different at two separate showings, Legacy lost some quality kids and took a giant step back but still have some talent. Warriors will be good. Outlaws looked OK but much more beatlable than last year (have heard some uneven reviews from parents on the team, but things seem to be getting better). Our Empire team looks stronger than last year and we're definitely putting the time in this winter.

Rank them however you will (it doesn't mean crap till the summer), but I would say those are the teams in the pack below the bandits. Anyone that says different just hasn't been watching or thinks their sons team is just flat out better than it is. His team his closer to these teams than the Bandits.


That's a pretty accurate statement. you'll still have haters though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do the Warriors fit into all this?


Realistically, they would probably fall below Bandits, Badgers and Igloo and above Outlaws, Empire and Legacy.

At any given tournament, any of these teams (with the exception of the Bandits) could beat or lose to another. We'll see how it goes in the summer.


Until the warriors beat someone other than themselves they will always be 91's c- team - they have splito games with empire true blue and legacy - haven't won a game against igloo - express team 1 -Outlaws or even shore 2 shore, maybe thus summer will be different but until they win some games against some competitive teams they will always be the other 91 team


Agreed, they will always be the Bandits little brothers. My sons team played them a bunch last year and they're a solid team though. They played us tough and the games were always pretty close. They had our number in the last few tourneys. They are not close to Bandits and got blown out by Igloo in the fall, although I saw igloo play two weeks later and they were not nearly as good. Totally different team. Until Igloo, Warriors, Outlaws, Shore to Shore, Empire and Badgers play each other this is all garbage talk anyway.

If you judge by this fall, it looks like things should be very interesting this summer. Shore 2 Shore looked very legit for a new club, Badgers still looked good but within reach of the pack. Igloo is a mystery because they were so different at two separate showings, Legacy lost some quality kids and took a giant step back but still have some talent. Warriors will be good. Outlaws looked OK but much more beatlable than last year (have heard some uneven reviews from parents on the team, but things seem to be getting better). Our Empire team looks stronger than last year and we're definitely putting the time in this winter.

Rank them however you will (it doesn't mean crap till the summer), but I would say those are the teams in the pack below the bandits. Anyone that says different just hasn't been watching or thinks their sons team is just flat out better than it is. His team his closer to these teams than the Bandits.


That's a pretty accurate statement. you'll still have haters though.


there's really nothing wrong with being the "bandits little brothers". every team in 2023 and some 2022 are their little brothers. they're a good team in that age, has a fighting chance along with all the teams.
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Newby here: What happened to Express Team 2 Channy? Do they still have 29-30 kids on the team???


They played in some fall tourneys and I think I remember them putting them in a two teams. I'm not sure if they were broken up by ability or just randomly though.


last i heard from a dad on the team was they still had all those kids. he wasn't happy about that. i think basically between the channy team 2 and team 3, they took everyone that tried out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Zummo coaching the 2023 Legacy team now? Is that a "Taz" team now? Doesn't he already coach 2020 and 2024? Seems like he's spreading himself pretty thin. Or is he just putting his name on the team to keep interest like JS is doing at 91?


I haven't heard that, but I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newby here: What happened to Express Team 2 Channy? Do they still have 29-30 kids on the team???


They played in some fall tourneys and I think I remember them putting them in a two teams. I'm not sure if they were broken up by ability or just randomly though.


last i heard from a dad on the team was they still had all those kids. he wasn't happy about that. i think basically between the channy team 2 and team 3, they took everyone that tried out.

What would be the strategy behind keeping so many weak players? The good clubs only field 1 team that is competitive.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newby here: What happened to Express Team 2 Channy? Do they still have 29-30 kids on the team???


They played in some fall tourneys and I think I remember them putting them in a two teams. I'm not sure if they were broken up by ability or just randomly though.


last i heard from a dad on the team was they still had all those kids. he wasn't happy about that. i think basically between the channy team 2 and team 3, they took everyone that tried out.

What would be the strategy behind keeping so many weak players? The good clubs only field 1 team that is competitive.

Money is the strategy. The Honeybadgers are their competitive 2023 team
I heard they dropped a bunch of kids after fall season to get down to a roster in low 20s. More typical size. some talent in roster but not deep
How can they drop kids after they held a tryout and took their money???? They obviously don't care what it does to their reputation to have teams getting pummled.
Not nice to accept and then drop them if true. Did they push them down to the third team? They could use the help.
I can't imagine that this really occurred. They would much rather keep them and split them into two teams than cut them. That would give them 4 teams at the 2023 level. Maybe they could move some players to their white team. That's a more developmental team (from the mouths of the parents on the sidelines). But, I would not expect Express to let $$ walk away. It goes against the travel lax business model!
Is it okay to have tryouts in August, select your team and then add a player in January? Especially when the majority of your team returns and was successful. All spots are filled. What message does that send?
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Is it okay to have tryouts in August, select your team and then add a player in January? Especially when the majority of your team returns and was successful. All spots are filled. What message does that send?

They put all the kids together, observe them, and then allocate them to the appropriate team (A,B,C)
What team added kids in January?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it okay to have tryouts in August, select your team and then add a player in January? Especially when the majority of your team returns and was successful. All spots are filled. What message does that send?


message sent is keep practicing, no one is guaranteed a spot. It's called the real world
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it okay to have tryouts in August, select your team and then add a player in January? Especially when the majority of your team returns and was successful. All spots are filled. What message does that send?


message sent is keep practicing, no one is guaranteed a spot. It's called the real world


I heard that the Bandits took a kid from the Warriors after Shamrock last year. I guess it happens.
Badgers added a kid from the Bandits.
Bandits added one or 2 kids from Badgers. Saw a new kid practice with them who had a badger sticker on his helmet. He was a middy.
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Bandits added one or 2 kids from Badgers. Saw a new kid practice with them who had a badger sticker on his helmet. He was a middy.


It's the opposite. Badgers took a Bandit middy and rumor is there's another one coming. These kids were not seeing the field so no lost to the Bandits but probably help the Badgers. If you're a Badger Middy Dad; how do you react to that?
as bandits DELETED, the remaining 10+ kids on the team only get marginal minutes. my son doesn't play for either bandits/badgers but is a 2023 and we have friends on the badgers. the parents seem open/excited to add any new kids that improve the team and make them better. from what I've heard, the new middy is a stud athlete and has been lighting it up at his first few badger practices.
should be a 2022..
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as bandits DELETED that they always bring down, the remaining 10+ kids on the team only get marginal minutes. my son doesn't play for either bandits/badgers but is a 2023 and we have friends on the badgers. the parents seem open/excited to add any new kids that improve the team and make them better. from what I've heard, the new middy is a stud athlete and has been lighting it up at his first few badger practices.


The Bandit middies that don't play, don't play for a reason. They are no better than the middies on a lot of other clubs. Parents just pay the fees to say they're on the Bandits. If he is lighting it up for the Badgers, that's very telling as to the remaining talent on the badgers. Keep in mind, club fees were already paid, so I doubt any of this movement had any validity. Possibly swapped at tryouts.
the bandit middy's that don't play (the 2nd line) tons of minutes don't play bc JS is only concerned with developing his 1st line. truth is, bandits 2nd middy line would run circles around any other 2023 1st line. do agree with you though, cant believe parents stick around for that though.
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the bandit middy's that don't play (the 2nd line) tons of minutes don't play bc JS is only concerned with developing his 1st line. truth is, bandits 2nd middy line would run circles around any other 2023 1st line. do agree with you though, cant believe parents stick around for that though.


I'm not too sure about that. I know a few of the Bandits #2's. They're very good, but not better then the #1's on most of the other top 10 clubs. Nothing wrong with that though. They're still great players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
as bandits DELETED, the remaining 10+ kids on the team only get marginal minutes. my son doesn't play for either bandits/badgers but is a 2023 and we have friends on the badgers. the parents seem open/excited to add any new kids that improve the team and make them better. from what I've heard, the new middy is a stud athlete and has been lighting it up at his first few badger practices.


Ok dad You know a few people and everyone is thrilled and the boy is "lighting up practice" hmm wonder who this is SMH probably why you were let go. Tell the truth you missed too many practices lolol
Have played bandits a few times and they blew us out so this may be why but they rotated 6 offensive players at a time 3 A and 3m In closer games maybe not ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
as bandits DELETED, the remaining 10+ kids on the team only get marginal minutes. my son doesn't play for either bandits/badgers but is a 2023 and we have friends on the badgers. the parents seem open/excited to add any new kids that improve the team and make them better. from what I've heard, the new middy is a stud athlete and has been lighting it up at his first few badger practices.


Ok dad You know a few people and everyone is thrilled and the boy is "lighting up practice" hmm wonder who this is SMH probably why you were let go. Tell the truth you missed too many practices lolol

yeah, missed 1 practice and JS let us go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
as bandits DELETED, the remaining 10+ kids on the team only get marginal minutes. my son doesn't play for either bandits/badgers but is a 2023 and we have friends on the badgers. the parents seem open/excited to add any new kids that improve the team and make them better. from what I've heard, the new middy is a stud athlete and has been lighting it up at his first few badger practices.



Pretty Funny. The new middy has been to 1 indoor practice that lasted 1 1/2 hrs. Lightinh it up??? Really??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits added one or 2 kids from Badgers. Saw a new kid practice with them who had a badger sticker on his helmet. He was a middy.


It's the opposite. Badgers took a Bandit middy and rumor is there's another one coming. These kids were not seeing the field so no lost to the Bandits but probably help the Badgers. If you're a Badger Middy Dad; how do you react to that?



I heard the 2 new middys are from Hills. You can't tell me AJ or BM
didn't have something to do with that. I know another kid from 3 village who was looking to join badgers and was told by the coaches they couldn't take him because it was after tryouts. Double standard. Such typical Express BS.
Sounds right....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits added one or 2 kids from Badgers. Saw a new kid practice with them who had a badger sticker on his helmet. He was a middy.


It's the opposite. Badgers took a Bandit middy and rumor is there's another one coming. These kids were not seeing the field so no lost to the Bandits but probably help the Badgers. If you're a Badger Middy Dad; how do you react to that?



I heard the 2 new middys are from Hills. You can't tell me AJ or BM
didn't have something to do with that. I know another kid from 3 village who was looking to join badgers and was told by the coaches they couldn't take him because it was after tryouts. Double standard. Such typical Express BS.

It gets worse as your kid ages. 100 kids on 2023 and only 20 will play between the two teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits added one or 2 kids from Badgers. Saw a new kid practice with them who had a badger sticker on his helmet. He was a middy.


It's the opposite. Badgers took a Bandit middy and rumor is there's another one coming. These kids were not seeing the field so no lost to the Bandits but probably help the Badgers. If you're a Badger Middy Dad; how do you react to that?



I heard the 2 new middys are from Hills. You can't tell me AJ or BM
didn't have something to do with that. I know another kid from 3 village who was looking to join badgers and was told by the coaches they couldn't take him because it was after tryouts. Double standard. Such typical Express BS.


One middie left before he paid (FYI: kids don't get cut. They just stop touching the field. The writing was on the wall.) The other middie is not going anywhere. Neither is the righty attackman from Hills. I would be fuming if I was on the Badgers and they were openly recruiting kids at my son's position after I had paid me fees with the expectation that my son would be playing. The problem is that there's nowhere for him to really go right now.
got some news for you - unless you are one of the "chosen" 4 or 5 players on bandits that JS is looking to develop and promote (if you're not sure, then let me fill you in and you are not one of the chosen) than the writing is on the wall for all of you. saw it with his older 2020 crush team, JS could not care about the majority of the players on either team. from what I've heard, JS uses the majority of the extra money every month you are paying (on top of your tuition) to subsidize his 2020's and the players on 2023's he doesn't make pay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
got some news for you - unless you are one of the "chosen" 4 or 5 players on bandits that JS is looking to develop and promote (if you're not sure, then let me fill you in and you are not one of the chosen) than the writing is on the wall for all of you. saw it with his older 2020 crush team, JS could not care about the majority of the players on either team. from what I've heard, JS uses the majority of the extra money every month you are paying (on top of your tuition) to subsidize his 2020's and the players on 2023's he doesn't make pay.


91 has "scolarships" for it's top players. But so do most other clubs. It's fairly common. With that being said, there are probably 6-7 players combined on his 2020 and 2023 teams (+1 if you count 2025) that are not charged and 4 (counting 2025) have the same last name as him. He's no dummy. He's saving himself $15-$20K a year by coaching those teams.
Can any 2023 team Beat the Bandits ?
S2S
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


Now that is hysterical. Funniest post all day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
got some news for you - unless you are one of the "chosen" 4 or 5 players on bandits that JS is looking to develop and promote (if you're not sure, then let me fill you in and you are not one of the chosen) than the writing is on the wall for all of you. saw it with his older 2020 crush team, JS could not care about the majority of the players on either team. from what I've heard, JS uses the majority of the extra money every month you are paying (on top of your tuition) to subsidize his 2020's and the players on 2023's he doesn't make pay.


91 has "scolarships" for it's top players. But so do most other clubs. It's fairly common. With that being said, there are probably 6-7 players combined on his 2020 and 2023 teams (+1 if you count 2025) that are not charged and 4 (counting 2025) have the same last name as him. He's no dummy. He's saving himself $15-$20K a year by coaching those teams.


So now the Coaches kids shouldn't get to play free? I'm not a coach, and I'm ok with paying the way for their kids, better that the Coaches have kids on the team so they stay interested.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
got some news for you - unless you are one of the "chosen" 4 or 5 players on bandits that JS is looking to develop and promote (if you're not sure, then let me fill you in and you are not one of the chosen) than the writing is on the wall for all of you. saw it with his older 2020 crush team, JS could not care about the majority of the players on either team. from what I've heard, JS uses the majority of the extra money every month you are paying (on top of your tuition) to subsidize his 2020's and the players on 2023's he doesn't make pay.


91 has "scolarships" for it's top players. But so do most other clubs. It's fairly common. With that being said, there are probably 6-7 players combined on his 2020 and 2023 teams (+1 if you count 2025) that are not charged and 4 (counting 2025) have the same last name as him. He's no dummy. He's saving himself $15-$20K a year by coaching those teams.


My kid is a top tier player on one of these teams!!! He is not on "scholarship"..... Oh wait, never mind
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


Now that is hysterical. Funniest post all day.


Haha...funny indeed....they would lose by a bakers dozen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
got some news for you - unless you are one of the "chosen" 4 or 5 players on bandits that JS is looking to develop and promote (if you're not sure, then let me fill you in and you are not one of the chosen) than the writing is on the wall for all of you. saw it with his older 2020 crush team, JS could not care about the majority of the players on either team. from what I've heard, JS uses the majority of the extra money every month you are paying (on top of your tuition) to subsidize his 2020's and the players on 2023's he doesn't make pay.


91 has "scolarships" for it's top players. But so do most other clubs. It's fairly common. With that being said, there are probably 6-7 players combined on his 2020 and 2023 teams (+1 if you count 2025) that are not charged and 4 (counting 2025) have the same last name as him. He's no dummy. He's saving himself $15-$20K a year by coaching those teams.


So now the Coaches kids shouldn't get to play free? I'm not a coach, and I'm ok with paying the way for their kids, better that the Coaches have kids on the team so they stay interested.


I would prefer the HC has no kids on the team. This will keep things on the level. That's one of the biggest problems with the teams being mentioned.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


Now that is hysterical. Funniest post all day.


Haha...funny indeed....they would lose by a bakers dozen


Wait, didn't you hear??? They played in a tournament and went 3-1. They're the second best team in the country now!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


S2S lost to the Badgers by 2 then beat them by two. In the fall. Against an incomplete Badgers team.

I watched the bloodbath last year when the Badgers played the Bandits. Bandits beat them like 17-2. It wasn't even close for a second. And the Bandits had kids playing out of position by the second 1/2.

The Badgers parents know their sons are on a very good team, but they also know that it's not safe to poke the hornets nest. S2S just signed themselves up for a beatdown.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


S2S lost to the Badgers by 2 then beat them by two. In the fall. Against an incomplete Badgers team.

I watched the bloodbath last year when the Badgers played the Bandits. Bandits beat them like 17-2. It wasn't even close for a second. And the Bandits had kids playing out of position by the second 1/2.

The Badgers parents know their sons are on a very good team, but they also know that it's not safe to poke the hornets nest. S2S just signed themselves up for a beatdown.



So you are positive someone from s2s posted that? Use you brain for a second. Who the heck knows who did it. I'd bet it probably wasn't someone from s2s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


S2S lost to the Badgers by 2 then beat them by two. In the fall. Against an incomplete Badgers team.

I watched the bloodbath last year when the Badgers played the Bandits. Bandits beat them like 17-2. It wasn't even close for a second. And the Bandits had kids playing out of position by the second 1/2.

The Badgers parents know their sons are on a very good team, but they also know that it's not safe to poke the hornets nest. S2S just signed themselves up for a beatdown.


Most people have no idea that S2S even exists. It was definitely a parent.


So you are positive someone from s2s posted that? Use you brain for a second. Who the heck knows who did it. I'd bet it probably wasn't someone from s2s.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S


S2S lost to the Badgers by 2 then beat them by two. In the fall. Against an incomplete Badgers team.

I watched the bloodbath last year when the Badgers played the Bandits. Bandits beat them like 17-2. It wasn't even close for a second. And the Bandits had kids playing out of position by the second 1/2.

The Badgers parents know their sons are on a very good team, but they also know that it's not safe to poke the hornets nest. S2S just signed themselves up for a beatdown.


"poked the hornets nest", "signed up for a beat down"?? You sound like such a tool. its 5th grade chief.
Seriously... Calm down... these are only 16 year olds playing 5th grade Lax. Take it easy....
ill take S2S this summer
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.


I'm going to disagree. My kids play the game because it's fun and they enjoy it. The youngest is 10 and the minute it becomes more than that I'm out. He knows the Bandits are the best team (that's really the only team that won't be beat. The rest are all beatable). He's played them a few times. The last time they lost by 8 goals. He doesn't give a crap. His team wins their share of games/tourneys and he gets better. That's what he knows. The parents care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about chasing the best team than the kids, I guarantee you that.
At this age, I don't think that is true for the players. These are 10-11 year old kids. They just want to go out and have fun playing and win at tournament and get a free t-shirt.

More often that not, its the parents that are looking to compare themselves to the other clubs. Anyone on this message board is guilty of it..... We need to stop caring about what the other clubs are doing. Focus on our own children and the fun they are having.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.
[quote=Anonymous]At this age, I don't think that is true for the players. These are 10-11 year old kids. They just want to go out and have fun playing and win at tournament and get a free t-shirt.

More often that not, its the parents that are looking to compare themselves to the other clubs. Anyone on this message board is guilty of it..... We need to stop caring about what the other clubs are doing. Focus on our own children and the fun they are having.

Amen!!
Hopefully the Badger parents will stop coming on here and wasting so many posts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.


I'm going to disagree. My kids play the game because it's fun and they enjoy it. The youngest is 10 and the minute it becomes more than that I'm out. He knows the Bandits are the best team (that's really the only team that won't be beat. The rest are all beatable). He's played them a few times. The last time they lost by 8 goals. He doesn't give a crap. His team wins their share of games/tourneys and he gets better. That's what he knows. The parents care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about chasing the best team than the kids, I guarantee you that.


Its fun to play against the best...and if they lose by 5 next time, it will help them see progress. My son wants a shot at the better teams to see how the team does and how he does. Even at this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.


I'm going to disagree. My kids play the game because it's fun and they enjoy it. The youngest is 10 and the minute it becomes more than that I'm out. He knows the Bandits are the best team (that's really the only team that won't be beat. The rest are all beatable). He's played them a few times. The last time they lost by 8 goals. He doesn't give a crap. His team wins their share of games/tourneys and he gets better. That's what he knows. The parents care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about chasing the best team than the kids, I guarantee you that.


Its fun to play against the best...and if they lose by 5 next time, it will help them see progress. My son wants a shot at the better teams to see how the team does and how he does. Even at this age.
true, but 10 year olds don't obsess over it like the parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am tired of hearing about Bandits and wanna be Badgers. The rest of 2023 1,000 + boys couldn't care less about them either!!!


That is just not true. The kids all want to measure themselves against the others. That is why kids want to play the games.


I'm going to disagree. My kids play the game because it's fun and they enjoy it. The youngest is 10 and the minute it becomes more than that I'm out. He knows the Bandits are the best team (that's really the only team that won't be beat. The rest are all beatable). He's played them a few times. The last time they lost by 8 goals. He doesn't give a crap. His team wins their share of games/tourneys and he gets better. That's what he knows. The parents care a [lacrosse] of a lot more about chasing the best team than the kids, I guarantee you that.


Its fun to play against the best...and if they lose by 5 next time, it will help them see progress. My son wants a shot at the better teams to see how the team does and how he does. Even at this age.
true, but 10 year olds don't obsess over it like the parents.


I'm with you on that. I'm surprised how they learn from everything and move on.
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS


Where are they going?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS


Maybe they just aren't good enough. The statement is and always has been that "playing time is earned, not given"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS

They will all find teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS

They will all find teams


Then I guess JS didn't really hurt them then. More playing time is better than less playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS

They will all find teams


And all of the spots they vacated will be filled.
You People are funny! Only place Ive seen Bandits lose on 2023 level is on this board SO many jealous complainers. My boy talks about competing with them and improving his team to beat them someday. The guy clearly knows what he is doing because his teams have a pretty good track record lolol Get out and practice improve your kid!
Top kids on Badgers have reached out through third parties to Bandits Guess spots wont be open for long! Would not annalyze HHH players leaving to play for HHH coach as turmoil more tampering. My son plays for the Express and it is funny how the Bandits losing players will ruin our team. AJ can not and will not say no. Miss BM in spots like this
Where does RP come into this? how many kids are on that team from RP ? Talking with parents RP youth program numbers have been sinking due to travel organizations overpowering the town program which is really sad . Many kids much rather sit out from the youth town PAL program because it has never evolved in talent , same kids year in year out without improvement in their game. It has become a deterrent for the ones who truly do enjoy the sport. I am sure this is true for most town teams , but when you are from a town that has many resources to make the improvements people need to take advantage of that , and not just complain with out putting in the hard work ! Sounds like parents are angry from RP if this is what that statement is referring to??

Work harder nothing is handed to you when competing to be the best , 2nd place is 1st for losing !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what I've heard from a parent that does have a kid on bandits, multiple players have quit the team over the last few months. for those from RP that have trouble with big numbers (multiple is more than 1). They said 3 players have left the team and expect more to follow. says something when boys that love lacrosse would rather sit out the season than continue to be treated like second class citizens. well done JS

They will all find teams


And all of the spots they vacated will be filled.
I am sure you are right, all vacated spots will be filled. maybe they can have more older brothers or cousins come down for tournaments like they typically do to fill the spots. difference will be this time, rather than taking "earned" playing time away from players that are "actually" on the team, the older relatives will simply be filling the vacated spots. I have an idea, maybe they can reclassify double deuces down another grade so he can be a 2023 too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You People are funny! Only place Ive seen Bandits lose on 2023 level is on this board SO many jealous complainers. My boy talks about competing with them and improving his team to beat them someday. The guy clearly knows what he is doing because his teams have a pretty good track record lolol Get out and practice improve your kid!


No one is saying they're not the best. They clearly are. He relies heavily on his starters so the rest of the team sacrifices playing time. There's nothing wrong with that, but that's why kids are bolting. They want to play more. As someone already said, they're not good enough to warrant the minutes on the Bandits, but they could possibly play more minutes somewhere else. I guess the main objective for any parent is to get your child in a position to play and be successful. No 10-11yr wants to ride the bench all year, especially when they're a good player. Which is better, being on the top team and not playing or being on a good team and playing quality minutes? I guess it's a tough pill for a parent to swallow when the player was a standout 2 years ago and now they're just average.
I cant wait to have my son try out for the Bandits this summer. He loves to ride the pine and deliver water bottles to the golden children when they come off the field in the 4th quarter.
It's awe inspiring for him. He can't stop talking about the Bandits.
How often did/does your son's team practice during the winter? I'm hearing people try to tell me that their son practiced 3x per week. Really????
don't complain if you're not committed to practicing as much as we are or practicing as hard. we practice 2-3/week year round and proof is in the result. wall doesn't take any days off ever.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
don't complain if you're not committed to practicing as much as we are or practicing as hard. we practice 2-3/week year round and proof is in the result. wall doesn't take any days off ever.


Not complaining, just curious. That was a total nut-sack answer by the way. What team are you on? You said "we" are practicing so I assume you are working out and hitting the wall every day?? Or do you want people to think that your kid plays for the Bandits? He doesn't, because they don't practice that much.
ooooooooh - is any part of this true? if so, this team is a bigger joke than I ever thought. sounds like players left and dirty laundry is finally being made public. everyone respects bandits for being a great team but it isn't jealousy, nobody likes you bc you never win with class and you don't teach your boys to play with dignity or sportsmanship. don't believe those are words that JS even knows
These posts are very entertaining when daddy's realize junior can't cut it It's ok Go practice and improve Another 2023 team needs to rise to the occasion Until then
Bandits
S2S
Express
Igloo
Warriors
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top kids on Badgers have reached out through third parties to Bandits Guess spots wont be open for long! Would not annalyze HHH players leaving to play for HHH coach as turmoil more tampering. My son plays for the Express and it is funny how the Bandits losing players will ruin our team. AJ can not and will not say no. Miss BM in spots like this


Not true. Never happened.
People are funny one of the players that left were asked to because of the insane parents and the mother verbally attacking players Who don't pass to her child and pays her son by the goal. Yes insane The others are Hills kids that AH pulled over. Bandits players and parents couldn't be happier Admit it everyone would be happy with a smaller roster
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top kids on Badgers have reached out through third parties to Bandits Guess spots wont be open for long! Would not annalyze HHH players leaving to play for HHH coach as turmoil more tampering. My son plays for the Express and it is funny how the Bandits losing players will ruin our team. AJ can not and will not say no. Miss BM in spots like this


Not true. Never happened.


Saw the texts Many express parents are operating w their eyes open as express turns into Hills
While Express worries about the Bandits and taking their leftovers. S2S practicing 2/3 times per week and mark my words surpass Badgers
not part of the text trail but as you are curious - bandits have two organized practices every week during the winter. quite often have a third practice added should coach have time in his schedule or we often have box practice after a regular field practice. typically will add a weekend practice should the team not be competing in a tournament. why is any of that so hard to believe.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
These posts are very entertaining when daddy's realize junior can't cut it It's ok Go practice and improve Another 2023 team needs to rise to the occasion Until then
Bandits
S2S
Express
Igloo
Warriors


Seems about right.
I know the one set of parents older son plays mama boys Not surprising my son used to tell me the things the mom would yell on the field.
Confident S2S will secure itself as two while express transforms. Igloo will be interesting team to watch and could also surpass express Think the inner turmoil with express needs to work itself out. Felt our boys considerably closed the gap on express and think w all the winter practices will move past
agree bandits are on top but all speculation as to the order for the remaining top teams. will be entertaining to see who wins these games. S2S certainly wins the award for most trash talk in the off-season, my guess is they will be awfully quiet in the spring once they actually need to play actual games.
for whomever asked the question before bc they were curious as to how much other teams were practicing - looks like 2/3 week for top teams is within the norm. keep looking in the mirror if you feel 1x a week is plenty and the rest of us lying.
The s2s boys play will do all the talking then there will be amass exodus from express. Book it
as nobody has responded yet to refute this trail - can I ask if this is possibly true and bandits players/parents actually carry on this nonsense to earn playing time. in my day, we simply called this kissing up but this is a whole new league.
some Momma boys moms are trash
some hot
until you beat express, S2S will just be that team that nobody heard of before but likes to talk a lot and if this message board is accurate, looks like the mass exodus is from bandits but like they said, they are just enjoying the smaller roster which opens up more room for big brother to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for whomever asked the question before bc they were curious as to how much other teams were practicing - looks like 2/3 week for top teams is within the norm. keep looking in the mirror if you feel 1x a week is plenty and the rest of us lying.


So it makes the kids better and turns the parents into dickheads. Got it. Thanks S2S dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The s2s boys play will do all the talking then there will be amass exodus from express. Book it


All this trash talk to be #2, #3 or possibly even #4???? If you're not the best you have nothing to pound your chest about.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for whomever asked the question before bc they were curious as to how much other teams were practicing - looks like 2/3 week for top teams is within the norm. keep looking in the mirror if you feel 1x a week is plenty and the rest of us lying.


So it makes the kids better and turns the parents into dickheads. Got it. Thanks S2S dad.


You can say what you want about us but the truth hurts s2s will beat express hills
Let me get this straight system play 4 games in the fall - wins couple and you put them as the #2 team - that's hysterical- let them win a few games and maybe a tournament this summer and then you can say who is "1-2-3-4, until then it's still Bandits Express then all others.
The fact is our kids are the better team if it was one game or 20 fact is s2s is on upswing express NO last year no this year watch
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact is our kids are the better team if it was one game or 20 fact is s2s is on upswing express NO last year no this year watch


How can a new club be on an upswing? If your kid really is on that team then I imagine you'll get him booted very quickly.
Its great watching grown men argue which 11 year boys lacrosse team is better.
S2s is made up of which towns
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Its great watching grown men argue which 11 year boys lacrosse team is better.


My kid's 10... Get it right!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2s is made up of which towns


All over. It's a travel team.
Some kids are 11, some are 10. I am rite. The point is you sound pathetic arguing over which boys 5th grade team is better. Do you understand now. Im too busy to explain it to you, but take my word for it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact is our kids are the better team if it was one game or 20 fact is s2s is on upswing express NO last year no this year watch


What does "express NO last year no this year watch" even mean?
When my older son was in 5th grade he was mediocre at best. I remember games where the coach "forgot " to put him in. Today he has surpassed every single kid on his 5th grade team and is a #1 recruit. So you people truly have no clue. You can say my son was the exception, however many of the top kids from 5th grade are NOT now! Lots will change over the next few years, relax !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When my older son was in 5th grade he was mediocre at best. I remember games where the coach "forgot " to put him in. Today he has surpassed every single kid on his 5th grade team and is a #1 recruit. So you people truly have no clue. You can say my son was the exception, however many of the top kids from 5th grade are NOT now! Lots will change over the next few years, relax !


Well said
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
for whomever asked the question before bc they were curious as to how much other teams were practicing - looks like 2/3 week for top teams is within the norm. keep looking in the mirror if you feel 1x a week is plenty and the rest of us lying.


So it makes the kids better and turns the parents into dickheads. Got it. Thanks S2S dad.


You can say what you want about us but the truth hurts s2s will beat express hills


Never happen. All this BS would be put to rest if BM was still involved. Miss the intensity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact is our kids are the better team if it was one game or 20 fact is s2s is on upswing express NO last year no this year watch


S2S is made up a bunch of kids who played on M32 last year and the Badgers beat them in an epic game in Garden City. Badgers have what it takes to come back and beat any team.
It is 5th grade lacrosse, who cares.. There are only 2 questions that you need to answer. 1. Is your son having fun? 2. Is your son having fun? That is what it is about.
It would be great if someone would start a league like they do in Maryland and Philly. The NXT Mid Atlantic league runs from March-May and club teams play a game every week against each other. 8 games and it would probably be an extra $200-$250 per player for the season. Bandits, Badgers, Warriors, S2S, Outlaws, Igloo all join and play each other and then the last 2 weeks would be playoffs. Someone can't find a way to make some money on that??? Seems like a no brainier???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact is our kids are the better team if it was one game or 20 fact is s2s is on upswing express NO last year no this year watch


S2S is made up a bunch of kids who played on M32 last year and the Badgers beat them in an epic game in Garden City. Badgers have what it takes to come back and beat any team.

You're making me Barf.
That's the thing S2S has been practicing multiple times per week and really playing well. Express right NOW being run like a town team
If your kid really is on that team then I imagine you'll get him booted very quickly. [/quote]

There is no way this person is on s2s. His facts about them are all wrong. This is just someone who is trying to stir crap up. s2s has played a grand total of 4 games. They lost to badgers in pool play then beat them in championship. Could it have been beginner's luck? Maybe. We will see in the summer. But please don't think that it is a parent from s2s spewing all this nonsense. s2s just wants to be competitive and have fun - after all they are 10-11 year old kids. Let them be 10-11 year old kids...
agreed, a travel league like that is a great idea. wish we did that here in LI as that would likely put an end to much of the nonsense you see posted here. truthfully didn't know they did leagues like that in MD & PA.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
agreed, a travel league like that is a great idea. wish we did that here in LI as that would likely put an end to much of the nonsense you see posted here. truthfully didn't know they did leagues like that in MD & PA.


Yep, there's still complaining, of course, but it definitely keeps the kids engaged all spring.
There was a league like that a few years ago. If I remember correctly fields became the biggest issue in the spring.
Whatever it is, it must be working.
Just because S2S and Express pull from similar area for players doesn't mean there needs to be such venom.. If everyone is happy where your boy is playing Who cares what other teams are doing. S2s beat Express last time out, express could win next time. Kids improve kids decline
I'll take the pot roast on Tuesday.
heard they used sign-up genius for the gifts to the MBS baby shower bc remember, if you didn't show up (attendance was mandatory & taken) - parents could not "earn" playing time for their banditos. remember, nothing is given, it is earned as an earlier poster pointed out. hear that, sounds like crickets.
Get close game play by serving Manicotti on Sunday !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll take the pot roast on Tuesday.
But you still can't beat them? Maybe your boy isn't good enough
No horse in the race. Obviously all false because if your kids were better you would be able to beat them or at least keep it within 10. The energy by Team Bitter should be spent on your boys development Man I thought the 2022 board was bad this one just screams "my boy isn't good enough " shut yer mouths and go beat them then you have a case
like you, no horse in this race but will admit I am an interested observer having watched the bandits from afar at tournaments. question for you though - do you draw your obvious conclusion that this is "all false" based on how many bandit parents have responded and refuted these statements of the extra-curricular" activities b/c as I've been reading, I still have not seen one post from a parent on the team claiming none of this nonsense actually happened. Which draws me to a different observation that this is actually "all true" and that parents can earn playing time by kissing up! so, again I ask - how did you come to the summation that this is all false? will challenge any parent from the team though to say these activities like decorating the coaches house, donating money to stonybrook womens lax, buying the coaches wife presents or having boys switch pal football teams to play for JS are not accurate b/c to the simple observer like the poster that doesn't have a horse in this race, certainly sounds like parents "earning" playing time with that. my 2 cents....
You all sound ridiculous.
They win most games by 20, not because of special favors and special treatment. They play the best players the majority of the time. Their first line plays 75+% of the games. Even when the 2nd middie line goes in, many of the 1st line middies move to attack.
The are a talented bunch of kids. People seem to be leaving about playing time.
Find me a first line player leaving...
None are.
The ones leaving are 2nd line kids whose parents are starting to realize that trips to Florida and Colorado are not worth it if son is only getting minimal time.


Years ago a couple of Crush daddies did some home improvements , So case closed if these statements are true or not.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
like you, no horse in this race but will admit I am an interested observer having watched the bandits from afar at tournaments. question for you though - do you draw your obvious conclusion that this is "all false" based on how many bandit parents have responded and refuted these statements of the extra-curricular" activities b/c as I've been reading, I still have not seen one post from a parent on the team claiming none of this nonsense actually happened. Which draws me to a different observation that this is actually "all true" and that parents can earn playing time by kissing up! so, again I ask - how did you come to the summation that this is all false? will challenge any parent from the team though to say these activities like decorating the coaches house, donating money to stonybrook womens lax, buying the coaches wife presents or having boys switch pal football teams to play for JS are not accurate b/c to the simple observer like the poster that doesn't have a horse in this race, certainly sounds like parents "earning" playing time with that. my 2 cents....
I have tunnel vision. I only care about my son. I don't care if he's on the best or worst team as long as he plays and gets better. Obviously, I want quality minutes at his position. As long as that happens, all is good.
it is amazing that all the kiss ups have kids that happen to be excellent lax players. I guess it is a coincidence.
I want to buy a Bandit jersey. Are they for sale?
Ill take the bait. No one is responding because its a bunch of BS. Perfect example is two of second line mids are on his football team. the comments contradict each other as well. "people only play because they kiss up" BUT No one in 2023 can remotely touch them. SO which is it you kiss up for playing time , the best play, or perhaps your boy is not talented enough, which is ok find a team that works for him. If you would like the truth the truth is ALL the parents and players are very close and get along great. Go to dinner together the boys go to each others Birthdays and are genuine friends. IF your team doesnt provide that Im not suprised you do not understand this team concept. People come and people go I bet you all wish your sons team only had 18 players that can all play
For a father of a kid that plays the Bandits you people need to get a grip. My son talks all the time about beating the Bandits and we work together to make that a reality. Truth is the guy is a great coach love him or hate him that is the truth EVERY team he coaches wins all the time. That said Rise up people improve and teach your boy to outwork the person next to them! I have personally watched those boys play they all play team lacrosse It is a warm day get out there and go.
I really hope this is not the parent on the Bandits that was asked to leave the team because she coaches from the other sideline yelling at her son to not pass and score goals in another instance yelled at another boy on the team for not passing to her son. She also talked about paying her son for every goal he scored. Lets just say addition by subtraction from the sideline alone. What club havent those people played for.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ill take the bait. No one is responding because its a bunch of BS. Perfect example is two of second line mids are on his football team. the comments contradict each other as well. "people only play because they kiss up" BUT No one in 2023 can remotely touch them. SO which is it you kiss up for playing time , the best play, or perhaps your boy is not talented enough, which is ok find a team that works for him. If you would like the truth the truth is ALL the parents and players are very close and get along great. Go to dinner together the boys go to each others Birthdays and are genuine friends. IF your team doesnt provide that Im not suprised you do not understand this team concept. People come and people go I bet you all wish your sons team only had 18 players that can all play


A certain atackman may have changed his football team to play for Sharks. He starts. Things like that are why people talk.
yes,all bandits parents & players get along great. didn't I see MBS and another players mom (who I thought was her best friend) taking swings at each other at a tournament in LI last year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For a father of a kid that plays the Bandits you people need to get a grip. My son talks all the time about beating the Bandits and we work together to make that a reality. Truth is the guy is a great coach love him or hate him that is the truth EVERY team he coaches wins all the time. That said Rise up people improve and teach your boy to outwork the person next to them! I have personally watched those boys play they all play team lacrosse It is a warm day get out there and go.
Rich C, Kids playing football together is why they talk? PAL Football lolol
Just catching up to this we all agree Bandits are best team in 2023 by a considerable amount. But in order to play you have to kiss butt? Come on people this argument is pathetic, also quite evident this is a parent whos boy could not cut it on the A squad. Thing to keep in mind is generally if a kid is not that good chances are daddy wasnt very good, it is science.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For a father of a kid that plays the Bandits you people need to get a grip. My son talks all the time about beating the Bandits and we work together to make that a reality. Truth is the guy is a great coach love him or hate him that is the truth EVERY team he coaches wins all the time. That said Rise up people improve and teach your boy to outwork the person next to them! I have personally watched those boys play they all play team lacrosse It is a warm day get out there and go.


truth here! life lessons
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just catching up to this we all agree Bandits are best team in 2023 by a considerable amount. But in order to play you have to kiss butt? Come on people this argument is pathetic, also quite evident this is a parent whos boy could not cut it on the A squad. Thing to keep in mind is generally if a kid is not that good chances are daddy wasnt very good, it is science.


Coaches who give favors to [lacrosse] kissing parents do not win games. This theory is just ridiculous.

Instead they end up with some trash talking, jealous parents of not so talented players.
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just catching up to this we all agree Bandits are best team in 2023 by a considerable amount. But in order to play you have to kiss butt? Come on people this argument is pathetic, also quite evident this is a parent whos boy could not cut it on the A squad. Thing to keep in mind is generally if a kid is not that good chances are daddy wasnt very good, it is science.


Coaches who give favors to [lacrosse] kissing parents do not win games. This theory is just ridiculous.

Instead they end up with some trash talking, jealous parents of not so talented players.


Nailed it.
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC
People get a grip. It's 5th grade. Bandits are very good because they are a well oiled machine. Wait until 8th 7/8 grade when half the team is different kids because the athletes will rise and JS will want them just like any other coach would do. Be prepared it will happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC

I commend you for making that decision. I did the same with my son with a different club because his coach played politics. He is now better than anyone else on the team he left because he worked hard and practiced year round. He's a star on his new team and he loves lacrosse more than ever. Good luck with your sons future success.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.
I don't know if two bandit mom's of players on the team exchanged punches/threats after a game because I did not see it (though both funny and pathetic) but I will tell you what I did see with this team which will forever put me in the opinion that they are LOW CLASS. This fall, I watched the bandits play express at a tournament although it was actually the express B team I found out. Apparently there was a player on the express team who was an original member of the bandits. During the game, 2 players on the bandits jumped the express player and started punching this boy.
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.


No one even mentioned a position. Some parents are just crazy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.


No one even mentioned a position. Some parents are just crazy.


Sheese.. so no one called out her kid so she decided to try to do it herself?? Crazy!
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.


No one even mentioned a position. Some parents are just crazy.


Sheese.. so no one called out her kid so she decided to try to do it herself?? Crazy!

And ou wonder why people talk about Bandit parents...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know if two bandit mom's of players on the team exchanged punches/threats after a game because I did not see it (though both funny and pathetic) but I will tell you what I did see with this team which will forever put me in the opinion that they are LOW CLASS. This fall, I watched the bandits play express at a tournament although it was actually the express B team I found out. Apparently there was a player on the express team who was an original member of the bandits. During the game, 2 players on the bandits jumped the express player and started punching this boy.



I heard that they actually had two grown men disguised as players do it, they had wrenches and crowbars hidden in their gear. The refs were paid off to look the other way too! Some people said it was two MMA guys. Others said it was one guy that looked like Sasquatch.
I heard it was MD double hold backs with full beards brought up to act as hit men and punish the non believers, those who can't do home repairs or skimped on the baby registry. Santa Claus told me so it all must be true.

Just Way to much drama going on with this team and others at the higher caliber.. You have to weigh it all out, be considered top caliber by association only ! and be treated like a 2nd class citizen , or be part of a team that is good , competitive , coached well and everyone gets along . There are plenty of teams out there that fit into this category. The percentile of your kid getting a D1 scholarship in 5th or 6th or even 7th grade is far fetched , and as the years accumulate many top 5th and 6th graders with high stick skill will plain out and others that didn't make the cut at that age will surpass them with flying colors . Even JS knows that , he takes an athlete and makes them into a lacrosse machine , doesn't matter at what age ! .. he surrounds his kids with above average athletes at the moment and will reevaluate as your kid loses steam for the next one , it is a known fact that all kids develop athletically at their own pace . Get with it people and knock off the cut throat !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know if two bandit mom's of players on the team exchanged punches/threats after a game because I did not see it (though both funny and pathetic) but I will tell you what I did see with this team which will forever put me in the opinion that they are LOW CLASS. This fall, I watched the bandits play express at a tournament although it was actually the express B team I found out. Apparently there was a player on the express team who was an original member of the bandits. During the game, 2 players on the bandits jumped the express player and started punching this boy.
Will there be a tournament where all these teams will be at ? I know the Bandits play up often. Do they in the summer as well
I like momma boyz
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.

Smartest move you have ever made! Kid is lights out!
The most on point statement on here .
JS sorrounds all his kids with athletes for the "moment" , when that athlete loses steam as he gets older regardless if he may have been better then his own at one time, a replacment is right behind him to keep his kids game on a steady incline. If you people don't see the pattern by now ,you really are fattally succummed by the lacrosse virus that your kid is set, and all is good . You have to be cautious and never let your guard down when playing for a team like this. The pressure and drama that comes with it at this young age and not to mention the excessive co$t is so not worth any attachment with the BS .if your kid was once a part of this roster then he should be able to play anywhere with this type of experience. Consider that short lived dream a part of a resume.



quote=Anonymous]Just Way to much drama going on with this team and others at the higher caliber.. You have to weigh it all out, be considered top caliber by association only ! and be treated like a 2nd class citizen , or be part of a team that is good , competitive , coached well and everyone gets along . There are plenty of teams out there that fit into this category. The percentile of your kid getting a D1 scholarship in 5th or 6th or even 7th grade is far fetched , and as the years accumulate many top 5th and 6th graders with high stick skill will plain out and others that didn't make the cut at that age will surpass them with flying colors . Even JS knows that , he takes an athlete and makes them into a lacrosse machine , doesn't matter at what age ! .. he surrounds his kids with above average athletes at the moment and will reevaluate as your kid loses steam for the next one , it is a known fact that all kids develop athletically at their own pace . Get with it people and knock off the cut throat !



Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know if two bandit mom's of players on the team exchanged punches/threats after a game because I did not see it (though both funny and pathetic) but I will tell you what I did see with this team which will forever put me in the opinion that they are LOW CLASS. This fall, I watched the bandits play express at a tournament although it was actually the express B team I found out. Apparently there was a player on the express team who was an original member of the bandits. During the game, 2 players on the bandits jumped the express player and started punching this boy.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I like momma boyz


... crickets ...
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello??!! Bandits mom here whose son left the team. Our departure has apparently triggered days and days of hideous exchanges on this site. WE have nothing to say other than WE made a decision which was in the best interest of our son. Why is it that all of YOU have so much to say, speculate and accuse?? Now you are insulting 11 year olds? YOU are all a bunch of pathetic trouble makers! Enough! Find something else to talk about and leave my son out of it! -LC


Wait.. where was there a kid called out?


No, just a typical overreaction to truth.


So, no child was identified except that the mom did... kind of? I read back and only saw people talking about parents. Please let me know if I missed something. I do not allow identifying kids.


No one even mentioned a position. Some parents are just crazy.


Sheese.. so no one called out her kid so she decided to try to do it herself?? Crazy!


This mom sounds like a real piece of work. Wonder why the kid struggled. What kind of pressure did that parent put on their boy?
That team is clearly the cream of the crop in this age and the dedication to be on a team like that is not for everybody. The decision for a parent to take their child to a better situation for their child is their perrogative. To be honest here the fact that two Hills players left to play for a Hills coach should not be ignored. Bandits are by FAR the best in this age and therefore there is a drop off. I would like to see my sons team spend more energy on improving the team THEY chose than trying to skim off the Bandits lesser players. It is sad these men chose our boys and are now scrambling around to bring different boys into practice. Does that show committment to players? Not much different than what they are saying about the Bandits, difference is Bandits are top dog.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team is clearly the cream of the crop in this age and the dedication to be on a team like that is not for everybody. The decision for a parent to take their child to a better situation for their child is their perrogative. To be honest here the fact that two Hills players left to play for a Hills coach should not be ignored. Bandits are by FAR the best in this age and therefore there is a drop off. I would like to see my sons team spend more energy on improving the team THEY chose than trying to skim off the Bandits lesser players. It is sad these men chose our boys and are now scrambling around to bring different boys into practice. Does that show committment to players? Not much different than what they are saying about the Bandits, difference is Bandits are top dog.


Welcome to travel lacrosse! It amazes me when people think their kids are locked into a team because they've been on it for a season or two or three. Every coach want to get the best players on his team. Every one. That's what travel lax is! That's what we pay for! I want my kid playing with the best possible kids (that practice within 20 minutes from my house, lol!). If a coach grabs another player that plays your kids position, he's better than your kid. We as parents will make up excuses why this happened, but when we take the blinders off we'll see that it's the truth. Travel lax is about competition, which coincidently, permeates all facets of life. If your son gets bumped, use it as a teachable moment. Let him know the importance of hard work and making/chasing goals. But don't make excuses.
The kids like it too and that is really all that matters. Nice parents and great coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kids like it too and that is really all that matters. Nice parents and great coaches.


Are you talking about the team that three kids quit or at least the parents hated it so much that they pulled their kids off?
Make sure now you answer your own post. How sad. Guy posts then answers himself. Wonder why Jr struggles

Management
Anyone have any thoughts on the best town tourneys being run this Spring?
yes. Your own. Save the fees and invite what you think are the three other best towns at the age group and play a round robin. Times will be convenient to you and the competition will be to your liking. Just pay the refs and get some pizza's for after! Some of the tournaments charging 850-1250 per team are criminal. Stop the madness.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes. Your own. Save the fees and invite what you think are the three other best towns at the age group and play a round robin. Times will be convenient to you and the competition will be to your liking. Just pay the refs and get some pizza's for after! Some of the tournaments charging 850-1250 per team are criminal. Stop the madness.


this is the best scenario where you go out and do a round robin of 4 teams. There are a few town games that pop up. Blatant has one, Syosset has one, proplayer used to do a town day, I think there is another one in the Northport/Huntington area that was good. Garden City used to invite towns to play.

but be careful the summer games coincide with travel and it is hard when you make the kids choose between town and travel.


Saturdays during the PAL season. CSH will be doing this a number of times this year in 4-6 grades. GC does it for the 6th grade as regularly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saturdays during the PAL season. CSH will be doing this a number of times this year in 4-6 grades. GC does it for the 6th grade as regularly.

Does CSH have an A and B team in this grade level?
I was at St Anthony's for an event inside on the thrf and ran into MC. He was talking to one of the parents from one of the teams and I could not help but overheat the conversation. That guy has to be the most arrogant AH on the face of the earth. Parents have to be crazy to play for Express and deal with his crap.
He's a great guy what a dumb thing to say. You kid prob got cut from express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He's a great guy what a dumb thing to say. You kid prob got cut from express


Ok Mike !!! Lol

Sorry; but it's true. That squealy voice on his cuts right through your bones.

And my kid plays for 91. No BS with those owners.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He's a great guy what a dumb thing to say. You kid prob got cut from express


Ok Mike !!! Lol

Sorry; but it's true. That squealy voice on his cuts right through your bones.

And my kid plays for 91. No BS with those owners.

You're not a 91 parent. There is total bull **** over there as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He's a great guy what a dumb thing to say. You kid prob got cut from express


Ok Mike !!! Lol

Sorry; but it's true. That squealy voice on his cuts right through your bones.

And my kid plays for 91. No BS with those owners.


Agree. The guy isn't the most well liked person in the Lacrosse circle. I've heard the college coaches cringe when he's walking around a tournament.

His phony smile and annoYing laugh is a tell tale sign to stay away. They have everyone bamboozled you need to play for Express . Top 91 kids are going to overwhelm express at St Anthonys , when it's all about winning many of those 91 kids will be the ones getting it done, that's bad bizz for MC and his crew , and more so for the parents who pay hugely for minumal attention at express.




quote=Anonymous]He's a great guy what a dumb thing to say. You kid prob got cut from express [/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous

His phony smile and annoYing laugh is a tell tale sign to stay away. They have everyone bamboozled you need to play for Express . Top 91 kids are going to overwhelm express at St Anthonys , when it's all about winning many of those 91 kids will be the ones getting it done, that's bad bizz for MC and his crew , and more so for the parents who pay hugely for minumal attention at express.



Sad but very true. He's a very dishonest person. People do not like him; they just tolerate him. His credibility in the Lacrosse community has weakened to the point where he has no pull. He keeps Express afloat as a money grabbed because it's his only means of income. Sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

His phony smile and annoYing laugh is a tell tale sign to stay away. They have everyone bamboozled you need to play for Express . Top 91 kids are going to overwhelm express at St Anthonys , when it's all about winning many of those 91 kids will be the ones getting it done, that's bad bizz for MC and his crew , and more so for the parents who pay hugely for minumal attention at express.



Sad but very true. He's a very dishonest person. People do not like him; they just tolerate him. His credibility in the Lacrosse community has weakened to the point where he has no pull. He keeps Express afloat as a money grabbed because it's his only means of income. Sad.


Dynamic Sports 91 can't even run an organization. Look at all the recent team cancellations. Hurricanes, Stampede, Fighting Ducks, etc..., total joke of the club scene.
Ducks are done?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.


You are right, Hurricanes folded. Victim of too many organizations/choices and not enough really good kids in the area. May happen to the Ducks as well, but why would you blame Dynamic. They do the same billing and website for anyone who asks and get a cut. They win no matter what the product, they have no direct obligation.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.

You're not sure of anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.

You're not sure of anything.


Actually, I just didn't want to talk trash about Hurricanes. I'm sure of everything. You are obviously upset with 91/Dynamic. Let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.

You're not sure of anything.


Actually, I just didn't want to talk trash about Hurricanes. I'm sure of everything. You are obviously upset with 91/Dynamic. Let it go.


Maybe 91 is the next team to fold.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.

You're not sure of anything.


Actually, I just didn't want to talk trash about Hurricanes. I'm sure of everything. You are obviously upset with 91/Dynamic. Let it go.


Maybe 91 is the next team to fold.


Sure, that sounds entirely possible, the machine will grind to a halt!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ducks are done?


No, Ducks are definitely not done. Neither is Stampede. Not sure of the status of Hurricanes, but I don't think that had much to do with being acquired by Dynamic. They still ran everything the same as they did prior.

Does the poster know that the other person was talking about Express and not 91? Weird to quote a post about one club and reference another entirely.

You're not sure of anything.


Actually, I just didn't want to talk trash about Hurricanes. I'm sure of everything. You are obviously upset with 91/Dynamic. Let it go.


Maybe 91 is the next team to fold.


Sure, that sounds entirely possible, the machine will grind to a halt!


Never happen. Too big to fail.
Wishful thinking !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wishful thinking !


Did you go to the tryout? 91 has 100 kids at every age group with parents who were lined up to give them the $2000 base fee. That's just the way it is. I don't know if it's good or bad, but they aren't going anywhere.
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


Hurricanes folded because it was a bad situation. 91 had nothing to do with them. Running out of the HUB became prohibitively expensive and there were better options available at the price point. Stampede is still doing well in the 2022-2019 grades. Looking to expand to 2023 next year. They continue developing players into solid JV and Varsity contributors. FYI: JS and BS only work with the teams that they are coaching. Nowhere has it ever been implied that they would float between teams to work with all players. That's silly. Also, you're forgetting about Empire. And to answer your next question, yes, they are having success as well.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


Hurricanes folded because it was a bad situation. 91 had nothing to do with them. Running out of the HUB became prohibitively expensive and there were better options available at the price point. Stampede is still doing well in the 2022-2019 grades. Looking to expand to 2023 next year. They continue developing players into solid JV and Varsity contributors. FYI: JS and BS only work with the teams that they are coaching. Nowhere has it ever been implied that they would float between teams to work with all players. That's silly. Also, you're forgetting about Empire. And to answer your next question, yes, they are having success as well.

Typical corporate response. However, there's a lack of leadership and responsibility to the growth of the corporation. Empire parents are not too happy. Maybe you should look in the mirror and see the dilusion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


Hurricanes folded because it was a bad situation. 91 had nothing to do with them. Running out of the HUB became prohibitively expensive and there were better options available at the price point. Stampede is still doing well in the 2022-2019 grades. Looking to expand to 2023 next year. They continue developing players into solid JV and Varsity contributors. FYI: JS and BS only work with the teams that they are coaching. Nowhere has it ever been implied that they would float between teams to work with all players. That's silly. Also, you're forgetting about Empire. And to answer your next question, yes, they are having success as well.

Typical corporate response. However, there's a lack of leadership and responsibility to the growth of the corporation. Empire parents are not too happy. Maybe you should look in the mirror and see the dilusion.


I fail to see any lack of leadership or responsibility to the growth of the company (pretty sure it's not a corporation). In contrast, it seems like the the company is growing at an exponential rate. I'm not sure where you're getting your informaition, or misinformation as the case appears to be, but you need to do some research.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire parents are not too happy.


Kind of a blanket statement no?

More realistically there are both happy and disgruntled parents with Empire, just like every travel lacrosse program.

Find what works for your son and makes him happy and move on. To continue to criticize a club team you are not associated with is just weird.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire parents are not too happy.


Kind of a blanket statement no?

More realistically there are both happy and disgruntled parents with Empire, just like every travel lacrosse program.

Find what works for your son and makes him happy and move on. To continue to criticize a club team you are not associated with is just weird.


Every club with have some unhappy parents. That's the nature of the beast that is travel lacrosse. Every parent thinks their son is the best because he's better than most of the kids in his town. However, when they start playing with the best from other towns they realize that there is still much work to be done. But, the poster is clearly dissatisfied with 91 for whatever reason (probably the most obvious reason).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


BS is at the indoor training every week. kids are working hard and they get plenty of reps. You wouldn't know because you are just a troll with an ax to grind.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


BS is at the indoor training every week. kids are working hard and they get plenty of reps. You wouldn't know because you are just a troll with an ax to grind.


Nailed it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


BS is at the indoor training every week. kids are working hard and they get plenty of reps. You wouldn't know because you are just a troll with an ax to grind.

I would know because I haven't seen management involved at all!!! And by the way you are a troll.
We are very happy with the Ducks and am one of the other 90% it allows our son to play other travel sports and not get burnt out by 15-16
quack, quack...................Ducks are angry now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Ducks are in no fear of folding. They keep it affordable and have a place for non Crush players to play.


Yep, they are catering to the other 90% and the realistic parents who are not lunatics. They're doing a pretty good job from what I can tell.

How's Stampede going? Has JS or BS shown up to help develop?
How's Hurricanes going?


BS is at the indoor training every week. kids are working hard and they get plenty of reps. You wouldn't know because you are just a troll with an ax to grind.

I would know because I haven't seen management involved at all!!! And by the way you are a troll.


That was a solid comeback.... Take you a while to think that up?
Anyone have any experience with the Brine summer event? Who picks the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone have any experience with the Brine summer event? Who picks the team?


Don't think they have an actual at team at this age. I'm pretty sure if your kid makes the cut you win a chance to pay for him to go to a camp in Florida in mid summer. I might be wrong though.
Any feedback on the recently added 2022/23 Brine Tryout? why it is just now being announced?
It's been on the website for awhile
just curious why Brine flyer is not posted anymore? was up yesterday
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any feedback on the recently added 2022/23 Brine Tryout? why it is just now being announced?

My son's PAL coach told us about it, and not his club director.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any feedback on the recently added 2022/23 Brine Tryout? why it is just now being announced?

My son's PAL coach told us about it, and not his club director.


Anyone going to this tomorrow?
yes, everyone is going
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any feedback on the recently added 2022/23 Brine Tryout? why it is just now being announced?

My son's PAL coach told us about it, and not his club director.


Anyone going to this tomorrow?

My son will be there, and excited to be on the team after tryouts.
does anybody know if Brine will be making two teams (one each for 2022 & 2023) or will this be one combined teams for both calendar years? thanks in advance for any info.
going to be a fun tryout inside Coastal Sports. NOT! Money grab like ive never seen for this age group...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anybody know if Brine will be making two teams (one each for 2022 & 2023) or will this be one combined teams for both calendar years? thanks in advance for any info.

No, don't show up if you're in 5th grade. The 6th graders will obviously make the team, unless you're a double hold back from MD..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anybody know if Brine will be making two teams (one each for 2022 & 2023) or will this be one combined teams for both calendar years? thanks in advance for any info.

No, don't show up if you're in 5th grade. The 6th graders will obviously make the team, unless you're a double hold back from MD..


Whole thing is a waste of time. Unless you love to spend money on nonsense money grabs! Trust me, nobody cares about brine, and yes my kid played, and I did not get the hype they try to create.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does anybody know if Brine will be making two teams (one each for 2022 & 2023) or will this be one combined teams for both calendar years? thanks in advance for any info.


No teams from what I understand. Just offer an option for more training at a later time. Not being a [lacrosse], but why would anyone do this?
An elite group of players meet other kids, train with a different set of coaches and compete in a game that they enjoy.

You may have a point - NOT. Love your negativity.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An elite group of players meet other kids, train with a different set of coaches and compete in a game that they enjoy.

You may have a point - NOT. Love your negativity.


Have fun, and don't forget your wallet! keep telling yourself it's all about the kids!
Go to happy hour on a Friday at 6pm
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An elite group of players meet other kids, train with a different set of coaches and compete in a game that they enjoy.

You may have a point - NOT. Love your negativity.


Do you think your son is going to be playing in a tournament with the Brine 2023 team? If so, enjoy your temporary bliss. If your son happens to beat out a 2022 kid at his position, that's great (but most quality players are not trying out), then you can fly him down to Florida in the middle of August to attend the Brine 3 day camp (probably won't be too hot, right?). So $85 for a tryout, $600 for airfare, $600 more for an average hotel and another $400 for the boy to go camp for a few days. Sounds awesome! Listen, I'm not trying to knock you down. I'm just trying to illustrate a point that most people don't know. There is no national team/tournament until 9th grade. This is a scam for the youth parents/players. But if you have the financial resource to do it, then I guess it's ok. I just want everyone to be informed.
Great post...Parents are clueless...How about trying out indoors. How can 100+ kids tryout in a place that small $$$$ grab at its best..Brine should be ashamed of putting their name on this
My kid is the best attackman in the Northeast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An elite group of players meet other kids, train with a different set of coaches and compete in a game that they enjoy.

You may have a point - NOT. Love your negativity.


Do you think your son is going to be playing in a tournament with the Brine 2023 team? If so, enjoy your temporary bliss. If your son happens to beat out a 2022 kid at his position, that's great (but most quality players are not trying out), then you can fly him down to Florida in the middle of August to attend the Brine 3 day camp (probably won't be too hot, right?). So $85 for a tryout, $600 for airfare, $600 more for an average hotel and another $400 for the boy to go camp for a few days. Sounds awesome! Listen, I'm not trying to knock you down. I'm just trying to illustrate a point that most people don't know. There is no national team/tournament until 9th grade. This is a scam for the youth parents/players. But if you have the financial resource to do it, then I guess it's ok. I just want everyone to be informed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An elite group of players meet other kids, train with a different set of coaches and compete in a game that they enjoy.

You may have a point - NOT. Love your negativity.


Do you think your son is going to be playing in a tournament with the Brine 2023 team? If so, enjoy your temporary bliss. If your son happens to beat out a 2022 kid at his position, that's great (but most quality players are not trying out), then you can fly him down to Florida in the middle of August to attend the Brine 3 day camp (probably won't be too hot, right?). So $85 for a tryout, $600 for airfare, $600 more for an average hotel and another $400 for the boy to go camp for a few days. Sounds awesome! Listen, I'm not trying to knock you down. I'm just trying to illustrate a point that most people don't know. There is no national team/tournament until 9th grade. This is a scam for the youth parents/players. But if you have the financial resource to do it, then I guess it's ok. I just want everyone to be informed.


Exactly!
Great...thanks for your infinite wisdom. One last question: are financials required?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great...thanks for your infinite wisdom. One last question: are financials required?


Listen guy, do what you want to do. I was just trying to help. If want to do it so you can tell people that your kid was invited to the Brine camp, then do what you gotta do. Just remember to tell them that it was the Brine Mediocre team, because the parents of the elite kids won't be bringing their kids to the tryout.
I agree with last poster about $ grab !! my son has no intention of following thru with brine camp even if he is invited to go to florida. However I think if you have the time and $ could be helpful to see how some tryouts are actually work ,basically a 2 hour clinic with a fancy brine pinnie
Thanks for your "help"! Everyone sincerely appreciates your premonition on it being a mediocre team. Do you have a PhD in youth lacrosse?
I do, 4 boys thru the grind of it.
amazing how my now 16 yr old went to Nike invite in OR when he was 14 and unfortunately no offers now.
my now 15 yr old played 5 years of travel, trips up and down the coast, he a decent player, not committed
my twins in youth arena, I going multi sport avenue with them
Just finished basketball and dusting off the stick and helmets
read many articles from coaches and players with common theme of multi-sports. that's my approach


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for your "help"! Everyone sincerely appreciates your premonition on it being a mediocre team. Do you have a PhD in youth lacrosse?
sounds as if the poster was trying to pass along sound advice. maybe the advice is wasted on you because you have it all figured out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I do, 4 boys thru the grind of it.
amazing how my now 16 yr old went to Nike invite in OR when he was 14 and unfortunately no offers now.
my now 15 yr old played 5 years of travel, trips up and down the coast, he a decent player, not committed
my twins in youth arena, I going multi sport avenue with them
Just finished basketball and dusting off the stick and helmets
read many articles from coaches and players with common theme of multi-sports. that's my approach


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for your "help"! Everyone sincerely appreciates your premonition on it being a mediocre team. Do you have a PhD in youth lacrosse?


Actually I do. Been through it and hindsight is 20/20. Most of these "amazing opportunities" are nothing more than money grabs! Invest in goal nets, bounce back, and hire a Great HS player for 30$ an hour. Money much better spent!
Let us know when your book will be on the New [lacrosse] Times Best Sellers List.
Wish I read this before I went to this tonight!!! They are making 1 team from 2022 and 2023. All the big teams were represented and probably only 2 kids were in over their head. 2 hour tryout. First hour was legit but the second hour was a disaster!! It was a scrimmage and the evaluators kept forgetting to switch out the attack and defenders! My son ended up getting on the field once for 7 mins out of an hour???? Poorly run. Then they trot out Chanuchuk to talk to the boys and you realize that all the Express kids that tried out will be making the team and the whole spiel about being unbiased is nothing but BS!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish I read this before I went to this tonight!!! They are making 1 team from 2022 and 2023. All the big teams were represented and probably only 2 kids were in over their head. 2 hour tryout. First hour was legit but the second hour was a disaster!! It was a scrimmage and the evaluators kept forgetting to switch out the attack and defenders! My son ended up getting on the field once for 7 mins out of an hour???? Poorly run. Then they trot out Chanuchuk to talk to the boys and you realize that all the Express kids that tried out will be making the team and the whole spiel about being unbiased is nothing but BS!!!!!


Don't say I didn't warn you! Anything Mike Chanenchuk is involved in is rotten. You just made a donation to him!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish I read this before I went to this tonight!!! They are making 1 team from 2022 and 2023. All the big teams were represented and probably only 2 kids were in over their head. 2 hour tryout. First hour was legit but the second hour was a disaster!! It was a scrimmage and the evaluators kept forgetting to switch out the attack and defenders! My son ended up getting on the field once for 7 mins out of an hour???? Poorly run. Then they trot out Chanenchuk to talk to the boys and you realize that all the Express kids that tried out will be making the team and the whole spiel about being unbiased is nothing but BS!!!!!


Don't say I didn't warn you! Anything MIke Chanenchuk is involved in is rotten. You just made a donation to him!


I have to agree. After meeting with Michael Chanenchuk we at BOTC believe that he is not an honorable man. Buyer beware.
This is highly offensive and is shameful. The admin post directly violates the BOARD RULES: "Named Individuals : Identifying youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name will not be permitted. Be mindful that such posts will be removed and/or editted by the BOTC Moderators. Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details."
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is highly offensive and is shameful. The admin post directly violates the BOARD RULES: "Named Individuals : Identifying youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name will not be permitted. Be mindful that such posts will be removed and/or editted by the BOTC Moderators. Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details."


Oh so you are allowed to bash, trash and malign anyone you want and I (who writes every post with my name attached) have no right to voice what I "see" to be true? Oh that sounds totally fair. Board rules, my [lacrosse].

Michael Chanenchuk is not a youth player, he is a grown man who I have seen and heard talk out of two sides of his very wide mouth.

I run the show here and no anonymous troll will tell me what I can and can not say.
Nice edit of your post. Spell check and removal of your name-calling (you should leave your statement of calling someone a "troll").
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice edit of your post. Spell check and removal of your name-calling (you should leave your statement of calling someone a "troll").


I only edit to correct spelling, etc. moron. You have no rights here. You live and hide under rocks. Sign your name and I will be happy to spar with you.

Oh and another thing TROLL, be a man, register and sign in and you too can edit your posts.
"YOUTH LACROSSE NEWS IMPACTING YOUR FAMILY" - bad comedy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"YOUTH LACROSSE NEWS IMPACTING YOUR FAMILY" - bad comedy


You are so angry and way too invested. Wonder who you could be. Hmmmmmmm

Let's face it, BOTC has an obligation to alert the public to any injustices out there and Michael Chanenchuk needs to learn how to respect a lady as well as the people who pay him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No anger. You need therapy and medication.


Haha. Ok, that's all you've got?

This old lady is bored now. Yawnnnn
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice edit of your post. Spell check and removal of your name-calling (you should leave your statement of calling someone a "troll").


You must be the Manhasset Flash(er)

May I suggest you stop acting liked a frightened child or abusive adult and stop picking on the lady while hiding behind your living room curtains.

Sissy boi's like you need and will get a spanking if you want to continue picking on the lady. Mistress Larry knows how to handle self-anointed lacrosse gods better than most.
Pot calling the kettle black. You need help
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pot calling the kettle black. You need help


Like I said..... Way too invested! Very strange that you spend your entire day trying to put me down. Guess what Bubba, you won't win. Are you a shill or are you Chanenchuk himself? Hmmmmmm
What was this a tryout for?
The BOTC All-American Team...Larry selected the team and no Express players made it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The BOTC All-American Team...Larry selected the team and no Express players made it.


Why should they? Express is terrible.
Express is terrible? Didn't they beat Smash and Igloo in the fall?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is terrible? Didn't they beat Smash and Igloo in the fall?


The 2022 Express team is very good, but isn't this the 2023 thread?
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish I read this before I went to this tonight!!! They are making 1 team from 2022 and 2023. All the big teams were represented and probably only 2 kids were in over their head. 2 hour tryout. First hour was legit but the second hour was a disaster!! It was a scrimmage and the evaluators kept forgetting to switch out the attack and defenders! My son ended up getting on the field once for 7 mins out of an hour???? Poorly run. Then they trot out Chanenchuk to talk to the boys and you realize that all the Express kids that tried out will be making the team and the whole spiel about being unbiased is nothing but BS!!!!!


Don't say I didn't warn you! Anything MIke Chanenchuk is involved in is rotten. You just made a donation to him!


I have to agree. After meeting with Michael Chanenchuk we at BOTC believe that he is not an honorable man. Buyer beware.



LMAO. This is the best post ever on this site and it's so true. 2023 parents are idiots to have wasted their money on this crap and if any of them
make it; it's all BS. There are at least 23+ 2022 kids that are better than any 2023 kid. Not even close. These are the delerious Badger parents.

CJO. Good to see you are honest enough to share your experience with Mike C. He's just not a nice guy andis worried about nothing other than his bank account. I heard he is also charging $130 for some 3 game event in Maryland next weekend. That's $43/pp a game or close to $1000per team per game. Insane!!
MC hand picked the Brine tryout....Thanks for your donation sukkas
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wish I read this before I went to this tonight!!! They are making 1 team from 2022 and 2023. All the big teams were represented and probably only 2 kids were in over their head. 2 hour tryout. First hour was legit but the second hour was a disaster!! It was a scrimmage and the evaluators kept forgetting to switch out the attack and defenders! My son ended up getting on the field once for 7 mins out of an hour???? Poorly run. Then they trot out Chanenchuk to talk to the boys and you realize that all the Express kids that tried out will be making the team and the whole spiel about being unbiased is nothing but BS!!!!!


Don't say I didn't warn you! Anything MIke Chanenchuk is involved in is rotten. You just made a donation to him!


I have to agree. After meeting with Michael Chanenchuk we at BOTC believe that he is not an honorable man. Buyer beware.



LMAO. This is the best post ever on this site and it's so true. 2023 parents are idiots to have wasted their money on this crap and if any of them
make it; it's all BS. There are at least 23+ 2022 kids that are better than any 2023 kid. Not even close. These are the delerious Badger parents.

CJO. Good to see you are honest enough to share your experience with Mike C. He's just not a nice guy andis worried about nothing other than his bank account. I heard he is also charging $130 for some 3 game event in Maryland next weekend. That's $43/pp a game or close to $1000per team per game. Insane!!


You know what makes me crazy.. the fact that there are plenty of "nice guys" out there who are making money BUT delivering as well. When I run into either one (good or bad) I feel it is only right to share. Sadly, there are too many bad out there.
Thanks for your views Larry. Helpful to get unbiased opinions. Would you mind sharing with us which 2023 organizations that you do believe are honorable? After reading your post about Express and prior posts (like 91 and Igloo using grade inappropriate kids) I'm looking for a cleaner club for my son.
so tru i was at the brine tryout , if the 2023 express kids would learn to look up the field and pass the ball more often would have made such a difference in there tryout. was nice to see a lot of unselfish play with the 2022 group. Over heard evaluators complementing the kids that pass the ball. I guess badger kids will figure it out the hard way..Or maybe not !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so tru i was at the brine tryout , if the 2023 express kids would learn to look up the field and pass the ball more often would have made such a difference in there tryout. was nice to see a lot of unselfish play with the 2022 group. Over heard evaluators complementing the kids that pass the ball. I guess badger kids will figure it out the hard way..Or maybe not !!


Anyone hear yet?
Brine invites went out early this am
$$$$$ grab. Anything MC is involved in its not about the kids. $$$$$$
You've Got give MC the expiration date and 3 digit code on the back of your credit card when you open the email link
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've Got give MC the expiration date and 3 digit code on the back of your credit card when you open the email link


LMFAO This may be the funniest post on BOTC ever!

There is so much humor in truth.

Take it from someone who has been there and done that. No more. My son is happier than ever and has learned more this year than he did in all the years he did with Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've Got give MC the expiration date and 3 digit code on the back of your credit card when you open the email link


LMFAO This may be the funniest post on BOTC ever!

There is so much humor in truth.

Take it from someone who has been there and done that. No more. My son is happier than ever and has learned more this year than he did in all the years he did with Express.



What team did he play for?
RELAX people. I mean it's not like MC picked 33 kids for his son's A team. That would be low. Imagine....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RELAX people. I mean it's not like MC picked 33 kids for his son's A team. That would be low. Imagine....


I wouldn't bet the ranch.
Does his son still have an A team? Haven't heard anything about them since fall.
How many 2023 kids selected from the brine tryouts or were there just 2022's selected?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've Got give MC the expiration date and 3 digit code on the back of your credit card when you open the email link


LMFAO This may be the funniest post on BOTC ever!

There is so much humor in truth.

Take it from someone who has been there and done that. No more. My son is happier than ever and has learned more this year than he did in all the years he did with Express.



What team did he play for?


Figured you wouldn't answer. "c" team?? No way he's getting better coaching if he played for the Badgers.
Does anyone know anything about this "NLF Futures Showcase in Tauton Mass"

this July? It says it is being run by Crabs, laxachusetts, Leading Edge, Express, Team 91 and Big 4 Triple H

Another $$ Grab??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about this "NLF Futures Showcase in Tauton Mass"

this July? It says it is being run by Crabs, laxachusetts, Leading Edge, Express, Team 91 and Big 4 Triple H

Another $$ Grab??


What is travel lax is not a money grab???
Has anyone's kids gone to the Million Camp? If so how was it and is it worth the money? if not any recommendations on camps Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone's kids gone to the Million Camp? If so how was it and is it worth the money? if not any recommendations on camps Thanks

My son has been going for 3 years so far and loves it. He's been to other camps and says this one is his favorite. Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone's kids gone to the Million Camp? If so how was it and is it worth the money? if not any recommendations on camps Thanks

My son has been going for 3 years so far and loves it. He's been to other camps and says this one is his favorite. Hope that helps.


thanks
Anyone ever heard of DNL? They're playing this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone ever heard of DNL? They're playing this weekend.


Dukes national. Ran out of Pennsylvania.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone ever heard of DNL? They're playing this weekend.


Dukes national. Ran out of Pennsylvania.


Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone ever heard of DNL? They're playing this weekend.


Dukes national. Ran out of Pennsylvania.


Thanks


That should be tough. They pull kids from everywhere. As a matter of fact, there's a guy from Conneticut that's always posting videos of his kid playing for Dukes National.
Your that guy, just be happy you don't have to play Bandits or for that matter express either
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22


Bandits are playing in 2022.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22


Bandits are playing in 2022.

Finally!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22


Bandits are playing in 2022.

Finally!!!!!!!!!!


Against LI Hitmen and LI Empire? Way to challenge yourselves Bandits -- how about playing up in the A bracket in a tournament with other "A" teams with your one 2022 (DOB 6/3/2003) . . . we get it, you're the class of the 2023 group, but stop talking about your 2022 victories until you beat the likes of Smash, United, Hawks, Diamondbacks or Express Channy.
They are playing up there is only one 2022 division so what exactly would you like them to do
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22


Bandits are playing in 2022.

Finally!!!!!!!!!!


Against LI Hitmen and LI Empire? Way to challenge yourselves Bandits -- how about playing up in the A bracket in a tournament with other "A" teams with your one 2022 (DOB 6/3/2003) . . . we get it, you're the class of the 2023 group, but stop talking about your 2022 victories until you beat the likes of Smash, United, Hawks, Diamondbacks or Express Channy.


There is a 2022 Dukes National Team playing. They won't be easy.
Dear Express Parents;

Unfortunately the Tournament this weekend has been canceled. We will be refunding your account $15, there is a $110 handling fee.

Regards,
Mike Chanenchuk
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dear Express Parents;

Unfortunately the Tournament this weekend has been canceled. We will be refunding your account $15, there is a $110 handling fee.

Regards,
Mike Chanenchuk


Wrong thread guy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dear Express Parents;

Unfortunately the Tournament this weekend has been canceled. We will be refunding your account $15, there is a $110 handling fee.

Regards,
Mike Chanenchuk


don't hold you breath for a refund
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dear Express Parents;

Unfortunately the Tournament this weekend has been canceled. We will be refunding your account $15, there is a $110 handling fee.

Regards,
Mike Chanenchuk


Classic
anyone else expecting the tournament on Sunday to go on, then cancelled after one game so they don't have to refund our entry fee. They are only calling for 4-6 inches now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
anyone else expecting the tournament on Sunday to go on, then cancelled after one game so they don't have to refund our entry fee. They are only calling for 4-6 inches now.


My bet is they play AM and it is miserable. Scheduled youngsters in the PM and I bet they all have to show up, start freezing their butts off and then get sent home before it starts when the school sees how bad the fields are getting ripped up.

It won't be the tourney guys call because they would make everyone suffer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vegas has the spread on a future game:

DNL vs Bandits

Bandits -21



Crazy thing is the O/U got the game is 22


Bandits are playing in 2022.

Finally!!!!!!!!!!


Against LI Hitmen and LI Empire? Way to challenge yourselves Bandits -- how about playing up in the A bracket in a tournament with other "A" teams with your one 2022 (DOB 6/3/2003) . . . we get it, you're the class of the 2023 group, but stop talking about your 2022 victories until you beat the likes of Smash, United, Hawks, Diamondbacks or Express Channy.


There is a 2022 Dukes National Team playing. They won't be easy.


Can't wait to see it. The DNL team is a good out of state team. A lot of money will be lost betting on the U13 banits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dear Express Parents;

Unfortunately the Tournament this weekend has been canceled. We will be refunding your account $15, there is a $110 handling fee.

Regards,
Mike Chanenchuk



Correction. The refund will be only $10. I had to fill up the cars with gas.

Love always MC
Bandits rolled big time today. No team in 2023 grade will come close this year. That team just may be the best team in the 2022 grade as well.
Sorry those teams in 2022 today were weak i am embarrassed for you making that comment. I WILL LOL now for your response to follow this I expect it to be child like.
How about the win by 2023 warriors over dnl. Three late goals to tie and a brave heart ending?
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good
How about that win by 2023 warriors over dnl today? Three late goals and s braveheart for the championship
I agree the warriors game very exciting and fun to watch.
They played tough against warriors. Great comeback by warriors from 3 down to win championship in a braveheart
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits rolled big time today. No team in 2023 grade will come close this year. That team just may be the best team in the 2022 grade as well.


Wrong. But they can compete.
Yes to compete is crystal clear I am glad you see that but 2023 lax year is not strong at this time. Maybe an influx of athletes in future will change that.
Warriors Dukes was a great final.
That Dukes team was good. Very good defense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.
suprised more teams did not get out and play this weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.

Bandits brings kids down in age. I would love to see the birth certificates. If I took my older sons 7th grade team down to 5th grade and called them 2023, then we would be the best.
Their short lefty Attack is the only legit 5th grader.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.

Bandits brings kids down in age. I would love to see the birth certificates. If I took my older sons 7th grade team down to 5th grade and called them 2023, then we would be the best.
Their short lefty Attack is the only legit 5th grader.


So You have a 7th grader and you are trolling the 5th grade board? Very weird as a matter of fact disturbing. My son plays on a competing team with the Bandits and I have to say they are legit age , They had an older boy and he is No longer on the team which squashes that theory. I will tell you what I tell my son just work harder and beat them Dont make excuses.
There are MUCH bigger teams in 2023 than the Bandits that much I will tell you. Skilled yes Big NO.Love when tournaments start hate all the venom that comes out as well!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.

Bandits brings kids down in age. I would love to see the birth certificates. If I took my older sons 7th grade team down to 5th grade and called them 2023, then we would be the best.
Their short lefty Attack is the only legit 5th grader.


The AYHL is the top hockey league for youth in our part of the country. Its where the Bandits would play if they were a hockey team. The AYHL website publishes the month and year of each player's birth. No password or special access needed. Its completely transparent and all competition is appropriate age vs appropriate age. No reason why lacrosse couldn't do the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.

Bandits brings kids down in age. I would love to see the birth certificates. If I took my older sons 7th grade team down to 5th grade and called them 2023, then we would be the best.
Their short lefty Attack is the only legit 5th grader.


So You have a 7th grader and you are trolling the 5th grade board? Very weird as a matter of fact disturbing. My son plays on a competing team with the Bandits and I have to say they are legit age , They had an older boy and he is No longer on the team which squashes that theory. I will tell you what I tell my son just work harder and beat them Dont make excuses.


Moron. You sound like a Bandit Mom
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Warriors beat Dukes National is championship. Warriors look much improved below the top tier but good


Bandits are the top tier. Everyone is below that.

Bandits brings kids down in age. I would love to see the birth certificates. If I took my older sons 7th grade team down to 5th grade and called them 2023, then we would be the best.
Their short lefty Attack is the only legit 5th grader.


So You have a 7th grader and you are trolling the 5th grade board? Very weird as a matter of fact disturbing. My son plays on a competing team with the Bandits and I have to say they are legit age , They had an older boy and he is No longer on the team which squashes that theory. I will tell you what I tell my son just work harder and beat them Dont make excuses.


Every kid on that team is supremely talented

They bring in non- bandit players to play 2022 tournaments

No excuses, just truth. They don't try to hide it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire

True beat down. The Outlaws are on their way out. They've had to make a lot of internal coaching changes to stay relevant. Don't see them catching up to anybody good anytime soon. Empire is another 91 offshoot which has imploded once again. 91 only cares about 91. Their Stampede, and Fighting Ducks are a joke.
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire

True beat down. The Outlaws are on their way out. They've had to make a lot of internal coaching changes to stay relevant. Don't see them catching up to anybody good anytime soon. Empire is another 91 offshoot which has imploded once again. 91 only cares about 91. Their Stampede, and Fighting Ducks are a joke.


This is suprising
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire

True beat down. The Outlaws are on their way out. They've had to make a lot of internal coaching changes to stay relevant. Don't see them catching up to anybody good anytime soon. Empire is another 91 offshoot which has imploded once again. 91 only cares about 91. Their Stampede, and Fighting Ducks are a joke.


Gotta love uninformed youth lacrosse analysis.

Yeah, that was Empire's brand new B team. Not sure why they were put in that bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire

True beat down. The Outlaws are on their way out. They've had to make a lot of internal coaching changes to stay relevant. Don't see them catching up to anybody good anytime soon. Empire is another 91 offshoot which has imploded once again. 91 only cares about 91. Their Stampede, and Fighting Ducks are a joke.


This is suprising


Not really. Outlaws didn't really beat anyone last year. Still a good team though. I'm still not completely sold on Igloo. They looked beatable at Blatant Fall. Not bad, just beatable. I guess you can say that about anyone really (except the bandits). I also need to see S2S play more than one tourney before I put them top three. They looked very good, but it was only one tourney. I think the Badgers may have taken a small step back, but you know they will come out guns blazing because people are saying they're finished. I think that's premature. Warriors looked solid, but still definitely have some weaknesses. That why this summer should be a fun one. A lot of teams went through some changes and, although the landscape hasn't been completely overhauled, there will definitely be more competitive teams coming up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.


Pb doesn't coach them anymore, your behind in your record keeping. They have a new head coach who is putting in a complete new offense. He only had three practices with them. Outlaws will be fine once they learn the new system. It's a march tournament. There is two more moths of practice before the season begins.
Relax.......early in the season!
Memo: That was Empire's white team not 2023 green.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...


Isn't S2S the dismantled Manhasset 32 with some Igloo and Badger kids mixed in? I don't think they're being underestimated, they are just an unknown at this point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.


What about the Duke Nationals? They beat outlaws and lost to the Warriors ina brave heart and beat them in regular play
Duke nationals a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.


What about the Duke Nationals? They beat outlaws and lost to the Warriors ina brave heart and beat them in regular play


We're talking about LI teams. Dukes is a Philly, NJ, Ct, Upstate team. Doubtfull that team will play together that much in the summer since many of those boys play on other travel teams. And until they get rid of the obnoxious dad with the video camera they won't be spoken about! lol!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Relax.......early in the season!
Memo: That was Empire's white team not 2023 green.


Green still has a lot of work to do to be mentioned. They've got some really good parts, but they need a few more before everyone jumps ship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about the Warriors beating the outlaws handily yesterday as well as Empire

True beat down. The Outlaws are on their way out. They've had to make a lot of internal coaching changes to stay relevant. Don't see them catching up to anybody good anytime soon. Empire is another 91 offshoot which has imploded once again. 91 only cares about 91. Their Stampede, and Fighting Ducks are a joke.


Those other teams are not "jokes". Not every kid can make a top 5 team and those teams offer options that allow young kids an opportunity to play the sport that they love and improve as they do it. Your son may be very good right now, but that doesn't mean he'll be a standout in 4 years when he's playing jv. To just write a kid off because he's just getting into travel now is naive and foolish and shows how limited your exposure to the sport really is. Remember, Paul Rabil didn't touch a stick till he was 13.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke nationals a joke


Your a joke. The fact is they were 3-0 during tournament play and lost in a championship in a braveheart.

The dad with the camcorder was really annoying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous


The dad with the camcorder was really annoying.


At one point his friend turned to him and said, "Ya know, you're that dad that they write all them articles about."

HA!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...


Isn't S2S the dismantled Manhasset 32 with some Igloo and Badger kids mixed in? I don't think they're being underestimated, they are just an unknown at this point.



S2S is actually the old SST team combined w Manhasset kids and some kids DK brought over from igloo. Good group of kids working hard to get better. Igloo team also just working hard trying to get better. Both teams and Badgers will win some and lose some, but the loses won't define their success. Bandits are a very good team and got a great head start with JS having a son in this grade, their first loss, whenever it happens will sting a bit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Duke nationals a joke


Your a joke. The fact is they were 3-0 during tournament play and lost in a championship in a braveheart.

The dad with the camcorder was really annoying.


My son plays on Warriors and I'll tell you Dukes were not a joke. They were a very solid team from top to bottom. They were more balanced than most of the teams I've seen at this age group. That was our first tourney so the boys needed to knock the rust off in that first game, but that second game was great. FYI, you Dukes parents should tell camcorder dad not to post so many videos of his kid and tell everyone who will listen how great he is. That just makes it really easy to shut his kid down. He was invisible for both games.
Anyone know if their son's team is playing in Blatant?
your right they are not jokes but when you call yourself a national team, that is the joke. and camcorder dad should keep his son playing against poor competition because he got shut down playing this weekend. That man has issues
Originally Posted by Anonymous
your right they are not jokes but when you call yourself a national team, that is the joke. and camcorder dad should keep his son playing against poor competition because he got shut down playing this weekend. That man has issues


Lol! He posted the night before that his kid had 5 assists and 7 goals in one game. C'mon guy! I don't know who played in the Hub St Patrick's tourney, but they must have been weak! He was miserable Sunday against solid LI defenders. Really had to laugh at him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.


This is very acurate. Warriors will quickly move up this list as the summer season starts. Badgers have a big hole with the big lefty attackman moving over to S2S. They didn't fill that gap and it will hurt them. Outlaws need to prove they can compete. S2S have a few good players, including the lefty Badger attackman, good FO kid and a very good goalie. They will upset the top teams every so often.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...


Isn't S2S the dismantled Manhasset 32 with some Igloo and Badger kids mixed in? I don't think they're being underestimated, they are just an unknown at this point.



S2S is actually the old SST team combined w Manhasset kids and some kids DK brought over from igloo. Good group of kids working hard to get better. Igloo team also just working hard trying to get better. Both teams and Badgers will win some and lose some, but the loses won't define their success. Bandits are a very good team and got a great head start with JS having a son in this grade, their first loss, whenever it happens will sting a bit.

There are no SST kids on S2S. SST is the same team it was last year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...


Isn't S2S the dismantled Manhasset 32 with some Igloo and Badger kids mixed in? I don't think they're being underestimated, they are just an unknown at this point.



S2S is actually the old SST team combined w Manhasset kids and some kids DK brought over from igloo. Good group of kids working hard to get better. Igloo team also just working hard trying to get better. Both teams and Badgers will win some and lose some, but the loses won't define their success. Bandits are a very good team and got a great head start with JS having a son in this grade, their first loss, whenever it happens will sting a bit.

There are no SST kids on S2S. SST is the same team it was last year.


Well that is good for S2S, don't want the SST kids bringing them down.
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1) Bandits - they just get better, JS is a great coach
2) Igloo - much better; added very good kids, new coach is good
3) Badgers- did not improve enough, added 1 good kid, BM will be missed
4) S2S - left over kids from igloo and Badgers, DK will make the best of it
5) warriors - much improved, Antonio will compete
6) Outlaws - not good, PB is not committed to team

Everyone else.



Your analysis of S2S couldn't be more wrong. That is good - keep underestimating them. Igloo - their additions are no better than their subtractions (maybe worse). The Outlaws - solid team, will compete, but with the talent spread out among the other 4 teams they will stay a notch below. The Bandits and Badgers is pretty spot on...


Isn't S2S the dismantled Manhasset 32 with some Igloo and Badger kids mixed in? I don't think they're being underestimated, they are just an unknown at this point.



S2S is actually the old SST team combined w Manhasset kids and some kids DK brought over from igloo. Good group of kids working hard to get better. Igloo team also just working hard trying to get better. Both teams and Badgers will win some and lose some, but the loses won't define their success. Bandits are a very good team and got a great head start with JS having a son in this grade, their first loss, whenever it happens will sting a bit.

There are no SST kids on S2S. SST is the same team it was last year.



Yeah Bad
SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.
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SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.

When they enter into town only tournaments as Bellmore/Merrick in the B bracket!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.

When they enter into town only tournaments as Bellmore/Merrick in the B bracket!

Actually they only lost 1 PAL game in the last 2 years playing in the A division. No need to hate.
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SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.

When they enter into town only tournaments as Bellmore/Merrick in the B bracket!

Actually they only lost 1 PAL game in the last 2 years playing in the A division. No need to hate.


Are you really keeping W/L record on PAL? Really? What a moron.
Anyone know what happened at the Syossett Shootout? Hearing about some shenanigans with a few clubs.
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SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.

When they enter into town only tournaments as Bellmore/Merrick in the B bracket!

Actually they only lost 1 PAL game in the last 2 years playing in the A division. No need to hate.


Are you really keeping W/L record on PAL? Really? What a moron.


I am quite sure the parents and boys all know their records in PAL. I have a few in HS and they all know their PLA records. Me I only remembered the last years. The only lost one
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SST is pretty good. They are kids from the south shore that play in a few tournaments. They won a few tourneys last year.

When they enter into town only tournaments as Bellmore/Merrick in the B bracket!

Actually they only lost 1 PAL game in the last 2 years playing in the A division. No need to hate.


Are you really keeping W/L record on PAL? Really? What a moron.


I am quite sure the parents and boys all know their records in PAL. I have a few in HS and they all know their PLA records. Me I only remembered the last years. The only lost one


Of PAL? Really? You should be embarrassed to admit that.
SST is a good team when they have their Igloo and Badger kids. Otherwise, they have s hard time competing with any travel clubs.
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Anyone know what happened at the Syossett Shootout? Hearing about some shenanigans with a few clubs.


One of the 2023 Igloo coach decides to bring his travel team to play under the Huntington banner! But "they decided to leave early instead of play in the championship", some of the parents must of been worried about the traffic on the way back to Manhasset!

Stay classy!
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Anyone know what happened at the Syossett Shootout? Hearing about some shenanigans with a few clubs.


One of the 2023 Igloo coach decides to bring his travel team to play under the Huntington banner! But "they decided to leave early instead of play in the championship", some of the parents must of been worried about the traffic on the way back to Manhasset!

Stay classy!


I can say I'm surprised. Huntington is getting that rep. They did that a few times last year, too. I'm guessing it was the same guy. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I heard they were asked not to play.
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Anyone know what happened at the Syossett Shootout? Hearing about some shenanigans with a few clubs.


One of the 2023 Igloo coach decides to bring his travel team to play under the Huntington banner! But "they decided to leave early instead of play in the championship", some of the parents must of been worried about the traffic on the way back to Manhasset!

Stay classy!


I can say I'm surprised. Huntington is getting that rep. They did that a few times last year, too. I'm guessing it was the same guy. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I heard they were asked not to play.


I am a parent for the town and never heard of a 5th grade town travel team for Huntington. Something weird is going on if this is true. Is this the same team signed up for the Blatant town only tournament because none of the parents in Huntington know about who is entering under Huntington.
So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?
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So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?


It's usually code for Igloos pickup team
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So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?


It's usually code for Igloos pickup team
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So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?


It's usually code for Igloos pickup team

They should be thrown out of Blatant tournament if this is true. It's in sportsmanship. Who is the coach who is teaching the kids to cheat??
HA HA very funny a pickup team of 5th graders
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So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?


It's usually code for Igloos pickup team
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So if Huntington doesn't have a 5th grade travel team who is registered at Blatant under Huntington?


It's usually code for Igloos pickup team

They should be thrown out of Blatant tournament if this is true. It's in sportsmanship. Who is the coach who is teaching the kids to cheat??

You have a good point. If the kids aren't from Huntington, they might not even be of correct age!
Oh it happens. My town is right next to Huntington and a few years ago, at SYO tournament, a fill in coach attempted to stack our team with studs from Huntington "so they could compete to win it". When he was told we cant do this its a town team tournament and we have kids that want to play who are available he promptly said he wouldn't coach the team if he didn't have a chance of winning and pulled his son...class act. Footnote: the true town team missed the playoffs due to points but had a great day and went 3-0... Some Dad's ego's wreck youth sports and kids.
Its very simple. The majority of the teams listed play PAL. If they want this to be a true town tournament just ask for the PAL roster. If a few kids aren't on one because the team needed a few extra's to make a team then just be up front about it and explain why they are on the team. What happened in Syosset was embarrassing.
Been there don't that. I am not sure if there is a way to confirm anyones address. I know in my years, players of separated parents played on 2 different teams. Players who go to school in a certain town (catholic) play with the kids within the town the school is in not their hometown. Some have familiar ties to the coaches (Niece/Nephew) they put on these tournaments teams. Some have their son or daughter play for the town they grew up in because they still have ties to the parents home town. These players generally play with the team often.

These player have and will always push another player who is not as good off the team or onto a team that doesn't go to the "special Tournaments".

I am not sure if this is good or bad for the home town. The better players welcome them, the layers who got replaced never likes it.
Just get rid of town tournaments altogether and make divisions. Teams have been cheating for years and now coaches think it's ok to do it. Connetquot has been stacking their team, SYAG, Huntington, Commack, etc... have all been doing it too. And those are just the teams that bring in multiple players that I know about. A kid here or a kid there. It makes a difference. We've all seen how one kid can carry a town team. Move that kid to a team that already has a few good kids and they will dominate. I won't enter my team in any more town tourneys, that's for sure.
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Just get rid of town tournaments altogether and make divisions. Teams have been cheating for years and now coaches think it's ok to do it. Connetquot has been stacking their team, SYAG, Huntington, Commack, etc... have all been doing it too. And those are just the teams that bring in multiple players that I know about. A kid here or a kid there. It makes a difference. We've all seen how one kid can carry a town team. Move that kid to a team that already has a few good kids and they will dominate. I won't enter my team in any more town tourneys, that's for sure.


It is sad that coaches do this. What ever happened to town pride and developing from within. I guess winning a t-shirt is more important than a State Championship on the HS level.
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Just get rid of town tournaments altogether and make divisions. Teams have been cheating for years and now coaches think it's ok to do it. Connetquot has been stacking their team, SYAG, Huntington, Commack, etc... have all been doing it too. And those are just the teams that bring in multiple players that I know about. A kid here or a kid there. It makes a difference. We've all seen how one kid can carry a town team. Move that kid to a team that already has a few good kids and they will dominate. I won't enter my team in any more town tourneys, that's for sure.


It is sad that coaches do this. What ever happened to town pride and developing from within. I guess winning a t-shirt is more important than a State Championship on the HS level.


And what do the coaches get out of blowing out teams that they are supposed to blow out? It makes absolutely no sense. Get rid of the teams or get rid of the tournaments.
What a true loser move to enter outlaw/igloo/manhasset/ with a few express players thrown in and call it "Huntington" to beat town teams to a pulp. This is one of the slime bag daddy coaches from igloo that set this up. Real winner. Don't get rid of the tournament. Ban the jerk that cheated so blatantly.
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What a true loser move to enter outlaw/igloo/manhasset/ with a few express players thrown in and call it "Huntington" to beat town teams to a pulp. This is one of the slime bag daddy coaches from igloo that set this up. Real winner. Don't get rid of the tournament. Ban the jerk that cheated so blatantly.

Great post. I couldn't agree with you more. I am trying to develop my kid with appropriate skill level, and then when this happens I see kids start to not enjoy the sport any longer because they feel they can't even compete on a town level. Shame on these coaches to not even have kids in their own town play with each other.
Don't discount the smarts of the players. These boys have been playing town and travel for a few years now. They know what town players live in. They play them in PAL games. some play on the same travel teams. They also know how old the boys are based on seeing them on fields and which grades they play with (PAL has always been age based). The lax world gets smaller as the boys get older. Cheating teams and players will start to be called out much more often. And let's not forget -- it's the parents who drive the boys to the tournament-- not the coaches.
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Don't discount the smarts of the players. These boys have been playing town and travel for a few years now. They know what town players live in. They play them in PAL games. some play on the same travel teams. They also know how old the boys are based on seeing them on fields and which grades they play with (PAL has always been age based). The lax world gets smaller as the boys get older. Cheating teams and players will start to be called out much more often. And let's not forget -- it's the parents who drive the boys to the tournament-- not the coaches.

The coaches organize the out of town kids together and got each one of them to participate. Some parents don't know what is going on behind the scenes. So while they drive their kids to a town tourney, they're thinking the town kids will be on the team, and not out of towners.
I'm sure they're losing a ton of sleep over this. This goes on all the time and am confident plenty of others did the same throughout the tournament. Take this over to the complaint forum.
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I'm sure they're losing a ton of sleep over this. This goes on all the time and am confident plenty of others did the same throughout the tournament. Take this over to the complaint forum.


That's the problem! They don't think twice about it. It still doesn't make it the right thing to do for the growth of the game. Some people out here care about the love of the game and not the chase of the t-shirt! Lacrosse has always been about sportsmanship and community. It's starting to lose that and more and more people are getting into for selfish reasons. Everyone worries about their kid and their kid only, it's the problem with our generation. It used to take a village to raise a child, now most parents are offended if you tell them that "Little Johnny" is being an idiot! The parents are the issue and the coaches that pull this "BS" are the ring leaders! Parents need to step back and thing is this the right lesson to teach my kid. Step up and be a parent and make the right decision, and yes sometimes that might be the hard decision!
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I'm sure they're losing a ton of sleep over this. This goes on all the time and am confident plenty of others did the same throughout the tournament. Take this over to the complaint forum.


That's the problem! They don't think twice about it. It still doesn't make it the right thing to do for the growth of the game. Some people out here care about the love of the game and not the chase of the t-shirt! Lacrosse has always been about sportsmanship and community. It's starting to lose that and more and more people are getting into for selfish reasons. Everyone worries about their kid and their kid only, it's the problem with our generation. It used to take a village to raise a child, now most parents are offended if you tell them that "Little Johnny" is being an idiot! The parents are the issue and the coaches that pull this "BS" are the ring leaders! Parents need to step back and thing is this the right lesson to teach my kid. Step up and be a parent and make the right decision, and yes sometimes that might be the hard decision!


Actually LI lacrosse used to be about creating tough as nails kids that college coaches loved to have and needed for their program to be successful. Those kids never complained and ran through walls for their programs. Now the coaches get entitled LI kids and parents that do nothing but complain. In not saying it's right what happens, but all you have to do is read this blog to understand where all that complaining comes from.
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What a true loser move to enter outlaw/igloo/manhasset/ with a few express players thrown in and call it "Huntington" to beat town teams to a pulp. This is one of the slime bag daddy coaches from igloo that set this up. Real winner. Don't get rid of the tournament. Ban the jerk that cheated so blatantly.
You, my friend, have had too many concussions and it prevents you from thinking clearly. Cheating to beat defenseless kids in a tournament DESIGNED for simple town teams does not equal toughness...its cowardly. Get an MRI.
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You, my friend, have had too many concussions and it prevents you from thinking clearly. Cheating to beat defenseless kids in a tournament DESIGNED for simple town teams does not equal toughness...its cowardly. Get an MRI.


I'm not saying it's right at all. Just pointing out this is just one of a dozen scenarios parents obsess about. Next it will be hold backs, daddy coaches, expensive clubs, early recruiting, HS doesn't play freshman or Sophs or coach plays favorites, money grab events,even playing time, cats and dogs living together. Accept nothing will ever be fair and get in the back yard and practice with your son.
Truer words were never spoken.
Hop over to the 2024 Girls thread and read about these parents pumping their chests over 8 year old girls. SMH.
The only bigger loser than the lowlife who coached the Huntington team are the sheep that say "oh that's the way it is, there's no way to change it". Live your life that way it works well.
Why are you surprised? This is same guy who helped AA keep a now 6th grader on the igloo team last year. Once a cheat always a cheat. More surprised about the parents who let their kids play.
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Why are you surprised? This is same guy who helped AA keep a now 6th grader on the igloo team last year. Once a cheat always a cheat. More surprised about the parents who let their kids play.

Is the 6th grader on the team now?
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Why are you surprised? This is same guy who helped AA keep a now 6th grader on the igloo team last year. Once a cheat always a cheat. More surprised about the parents who let their kids play.

Is the 6th grader on the team now?


There was at the Columbus Day tourney. They were a completely different team at Blatant without him.
And parents that's why Igloo is banned from NLF and similar multi-team opportunities. Cheating just not accepted. Good luck with those showcase invites someday.
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And parents that's why Igloo is banned from NLF and similar multi-team opportunities. Cheating just not accepted. Good luck with those showcase invites someday.


So you're saying Igloo is banned and Crabs are not?? Legacy, Crush have several holdbacks as well. Including a kid blatantly in the grade above, not even bothering to reclass. It's ok for all of them bot not Igloo, C'MON! You can't be serious?
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And parents that's why Igloo is banned from NLF and similar multi-team opportunities. Cheating just not accepted. Good luck with those showcase invites someday.


So you're saying Igloo is banned and Crabs are not?? Legacy, Crush have several holdbacks as well. Including a kid blatantly in the grade above, not even bothering to reclass. It's ok for all of them bot not Igloo, C'MON! You can't be serious?

Didn't Igloo coach enter under a town only tourney? Crabs didn't.
Best kids should be invited to showcases not cause of what team your on, a lot of talented kids that are more deserving than some that were invited FACT!!
Igloo blatantly cheats, other programs may have reclassed kids but no kids out of grade. Igloo has tried to get in NLF and AA is not liked in those circles with Crabs, Laxachusetts,etc
Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
You must be new. There's a big difference in lacrosse between having holdbacks and having someone lie about their grade. Lots of teams have holdbacks. And that's within the rules, even if you don't like it. But you can't take a kid from an older grade regardless of his age. Some teams sometimes play age-based tournaments in which kids of different grades may participate. But that's not what Igloo did last year. Oh and by the way, its only one of the reasons why they got blackballed.
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Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
You must be new. There's a big difference in lacrosse between having holdbacks and having someone lie about their grade. Lots of teams have holdbacks. And that's within the rules, even if you don't like it. But you can't take a kid from an older grade regardless of his age. Some teams sometimes play age-based tournaments in which kids of different grades may participate. But that's not what Igloo did last year. Oh and by the way, its only one of the reasons why they got blackballed.



I think you are the one new. If you knew anything, you would know that this is exactly what Legacy has done on one of their teams. Now go get on your fact checking!
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Best kids should be invited to showcases not cause of what team your on, a lot of talented kids that are more deserving than some that were invited FACT!!
SO TRUE
Bigger clubs don't want a club like Igloo to succeed, that is why they are blackballed. Not because AA isn't liked. The whole purpose of the NLF was to push smaller clubs out and put a monopoly on recruiting. If the NLF was truly about getting the nations best talent in from of the college coaches, then the NLF would invite the best talent. If Igloo or any other club has some of the best talent and is blackballed, then clearly the NLF would lose if it hasn't all ready lost its integrity.

Understand that college coaches could care less about NLF; what they care about is getting the best talent out there. And if Igloo or any other club is good, the college coaches are going to want to see them. So it really doesn't matter.
NLF is not a new or original idea. These types off groups have existed for some time across the country. They look to invite programs that For years have shown they have good teams during the recruiting years. Igloo's first good team is 2021. Unfortunately they got in the business late to get those kids and probably 2022 and 2023 associated with any of these groups. Igloo has to show for a few years that they can retain good teams from 9th grade and up before they will be considered for any of these groups. So there could be hope for 2025 igloo teams if igloo could show a history of having good teams for the older years. It is that simple. No bad intent by any group. Membership can't be changing every year. If that happens the goup loses credibility.

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Bigger clubs don't want a club like Igloo to succeed, that is why they are blackballed. Not because AA isn't liked. The whole purpose of the NLF was to push smaller clubs out and put a monopoly on recruiting. If the NLF was truly about getting the nations best talent in from of the college coaches, then the NLF would invite the best talent. If Igloo or any other club has some of the best talent and is blackballed, then clearly the NLF would lose if it hasn't all ready lost its integrity.

Understand that college coaches could care less about NLF; what they care about is getting the best talent out there. And if Igloo or any other club is good, the college coaches are going to want to see them. So it really doesn't matter.
Doesn't 91 have a frequent visitor from a grade higher, 2 years older play on the Dad's team? Hold back and playing down ...Pot meet Kettle
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Doesn't 91 have a frequent visitor from a grade higher, 2 years older play on the Dad's team? Hold back and playing down ...Pot meet Kettle


hold back, but plays up. No pot and no Kettle so go get your Red cup and grumble into it.
Looking at older grades college coaches seem to support the NLF very much I think trying to make peace and get in the NLF would be the correct move for igloo if he can
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NLF is not a new or original idea. These types off groups have existed for some time across the country. They look to invite programs that For years have shown they have good teams during the recruiting years. Igloo's first good team is 2021. Unfortunately they got in the business late to get those kids and probably 2022 and 2023 associated with any of these groups. Igloo has to show for a few years that they can retain good teams from 9th grade and up before they will be considered for any of these groups. So there could be hope for 2025 igloo teams if igloo could show a history of having good teams for the older years. It is that simple. No bad intent by any group. Membership can't be changing every year. If that happens the goup loses credibility.


Makes a ton of sense, do better kids from smaller clubs go to the more established clubs ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bigger clubs don't want a club like Igloo to succeed, that is why they are blackballed. Not because AA isn't liked. The whole purpose of the NLF was to push smaller clubs out and put a monopoly on recruiting. If the NLF was truly about getting the nations best talent in from of the college coaches, then the NLF would invite the best talent. If Igloo or any other club has some of the best talent and is blackballed, then clearly the NLF would lose if it hasn't all ready lost its integrity.

Understand that college coaches could care less about NLF; what they care about is getting the best talent out there. And if Igloo or any other club is good, the college coaches are going to want to see them. So it really doesn't matter.
Does not make sense and is not true. NLF is an effort by the big influential clubs to control the youth lacrosse recruiting process and make as much money as possible. They want you to believe that your child won't get recruited unless he plays for one of the NLF clubs. If there is a smaller program with a talented team, they will exclude them from their events in hopes that some parents will panic and move their sons to one of the NLF teams.
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And parents that's why Igloo is banned from NLF and similar multi-team opportunities. Cheating just not accepted. Good luck with those showcase invites someday.


So you're saying Igloo is banned and Crabs are not?? Legacy, Crush have several holdbacks as well. Including a kid blatantly in the grade above, not even bothering to reclass. It's ok for all of them bot not Igloo, C'MON! You can't be serious?


Just because other teams do it doesn't make it ok. But thanks for admitting it.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Doesn't 91 have a frequent visitor from a grade higher, 2 years older play on the Dad's team? Hold back and playing down ...Pot meet Kettle


hold back, but plays up. No pot and no Kettle so go get your Red cup and grumble into it.


Also only plays when the team is playing up against kids his age.
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Does not make sense and is not true. NLF is an effort by the big influential clubs to control the youth lacrosse recruiting process and make as much money as possible. They want you to believe that your child won't get recruited unless he plays for one of the NLF clubs. If there is a smaller program with a talented team, they will exclude them from their events in hopes that some parents will panic and move their sons to one of the NLF teams.


Think about this if you were college X wouldn't you go where the best clubs are from top to bottom? The question answers itself Same weekend there is an NLF tourn as some other one with random clubs Obviously coaches go where the majority of players are and established club teams with most history of commitments
2022 is not his age. He plays with bandits when they play up. He's still playing down against 2022 teams. He should be 2021.
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Does not make sense and is not true. NLF is an effort by the big influential clubs to control the youth lacrosse recruiting process and make as much money as possible. They want you to believe that your child won't get recruited unless he plays for one of the NLF clubs. If there is a smaller program with a talented team, they will exclude them from their events in hopes that some parents will panic and move their sons to one of the NLF teams.


NLF members have teams playing at every grade level in each of their events. Does Igloo have older teams? Seems like that might be important, no? Parents have been moving from Igloo when their kids hit recruitment age long before NLF.
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids
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Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids
what in Gods name are you trying to say? I feel like I'm reading pig Latin
We actually had to leave a certain club as recruiting picked up to make sure our son got a fair look. It's sad but true that second team express kids were getting more opportunity than my son who was a better kid on a lesser club
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids
Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?
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Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.
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Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?


He's making the point that although the 2021 team is good, since Igloo doesn't have teams in the older grades they won't get any quality showcase invitations. That's why Igloo will find it very hard to exist in a few years.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!


You mean ridiculous, right? Either way, 91 Bandits only bring in the 6th grader when they're playing 6th grade teams. Could they win without him? Maybe. Probably. Who knows. But they are play 6th grade kids. That's the difference. Igloo brings in 6th grade kids to play 5th grade kids. You don't see how that's different? If you don't then you are part of the reason your kids team is a joke and not taken seriously by a single coach or parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!


You mean ridiculous, right? Either way, 91 Bandits only bring in the 6th grader when they're playing 6th grade teams. Could they win without him? Maybe. Probably. Who knows. But they are play 6th grade kids. That's the difference. Igloo brings in 6th grade kids to play 5th grade kids. You don't see how that's different? If you don't then you are part of the reason your kids team is a joke and not taken seriously by a single coach or parent.

Are you telling me that our 5th grade Igloo team is a joke? We'll crush you. Our coaching is top notch, and the best in the business.
What tournaments are 2023!teams playing coming up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!


You mean ridiculous, right? Either way, 91 Bandits only bring in the 6th grader when they're playing 6th grade teams. Could they win without him? Maybe. Probably. Who knows. But they are play 6th grade kids. That's the difference. Igloo brings in 6th grade kids to play 5th grade kids. You don't see how that's different? If you don't then you are part of the reason your kids team is a joke and not taken seriously by a single coach or parent.


Well, 6th grade kid is supposed to be in 7th grade first of all. Another prominent club, not Igloo has a 9th grader playing on the 2020 team who did not reclass. Cheating is rampant amongst all the clubs. Sad for the kids who just want to play the game fairly, as the adults around them are immorality hypocrites!
What tournaments are 2023 teams playing this spring
It is never acceptable to bend/break the rules but just to be clear - Igloo 2023 does not have a 6th grader on the team this year. Last year the coach brought in a boy from his town who was a 2022. I don't think anyone was aware of the situation (other than the coach and the boy's parents) until mid year. The boy and the coach are no longer with the team. Igloo 2023 is not a joke. Just a team trying to improve each year and hopefully one day compete with the best teams out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is never acceptable to bend/break the rules but just to be clear - Igloo 2023 does not have a 6th grader on the team this year. Last year the coach brought in a boy from his town who was a 2022. I don't think anyone was aware of the situation (other than the coach and the boy's parents) until mid year. The boy and the coach are no longer with the team. Igloo 2023 is not a joke. Just a team trying to improve each year and hopefully one day compete with the best teams out there.


Until recruitment age when the best kids will jump ship to move to one of the better clubs so they can get more looks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What tournaments are 2023 teams playing this spring

Blatant, Koehler
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!


You mean ridiculous, right? Either way, 91 Bandits only bring in the 6th grader when they're playing 6th grade teams. Could they win without him? Maybe. Probably. Who knows. But they are play 6th grade kids. That's the difference. Igloo brings in 6th grade kids to play 5th grade kids. You don't see how that's different? If you don't then you are part of the reason your kids team is a joke and not taken seriously by a single coach or parent.


In the opinion of most (other than a few Badgers parents), 91 Bandits are the top 2023 team out there, which they've proven time and time again.

However, when the 2022 kid with the June 2003 birthday plays with them in the B division of a 2022 tournament, they SHOULD win (as is the case when any of the top teams in an age group plays weaker teams in the grade above them -- now, if they started playing in tournaments with the real 2022 "A" teams and beat them consistently, that would be impressive). BUT, Bandits should stop talking about themselves as a 2023 team when they win these 2022 "B" brackets with the older kid -- and this includes when the coach tweets or posts something on Instagram about how proud he is of his "2023 Bandits playing up" -- because it's not a 2023 team playing up -- at that point it is a 2022 team of really talented and well-coached kids in the proper age group playing down in a B bracket or in a weaker tournament.
That same guy that was coaching IGLOO 2023 last year is now coaching another team. Did he bring his 2022 kid(s) to this new team? Imagine being on one of his teams. Your kid tries his best every week at practice, but some other kid just seems faster stronger, plus he's the coaches next door neighbor. Then, half way through the season you and your son find out that the kid that starts in front of him is actually one year older AND a 2022!! This would be after you have paid the 3k tuition, bought sweats, paid for the extra training, etc. Fun times. I wouldn't be surprised if the older kids get discounted tuition as well.
Unfortunately all of Igloo management knew since tryouts that the kid was a 2022. But they looked the other way. This includes the Huntington coach who cheated in the town tournament and AA himself. Can't scapegoat DK alone here. They wanted to have the strongest 2023 team they could in the first year. Too bad they decided to cheat. This time they got caught. How many other times has/will it happen? Isolated incident for Igloo? Facts suggest otherwise since Igloo coach just got busted cheating in the town tournament. Purpose of the board is to provide information to parents. Make your own choice. But think about what your son is learning from these guys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?


He's making the point that although the 2021 team is good, since Igloo doesn't have teams in the older grades they won't get any quality showcase invitations. That's why Igloo will find it very hard to exist in a few years.


Doesn't work that way. Invites when they mean something will go to the best player. Of course any showcase 91 is involved in will do their best to shut out better kids so theirs get highlighted, which is a disrace. Honor the game??
Ok people this is the 5th grade thread. Enough w showcase talk
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not true at all. It is hard to get in these recruitment groups and events. They will not let any team/club in even if it is the best team for any year. Igloos 2021 team is learning this now. Clearly the best team in 2021 won't get into the best events without several good teams 9th grade and older to go with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bottom line right or not is. Wherever the best teams and clubs go the college coaches go. That will not include some clubs which will hurt the chances of those clubs keeping top kids


Igloo needs to change their reputation before anyone will let them play meaningful games. Word spreads pretty quickly when they bring in 6th graders just to win tourneys.


So it's ok for Legacy and 91 to do that, just not Igloo? You sound Hypocritical and rediculus!


You mean ridiculous, right? Either way, 91 Bandits only bring in the 6th grader when they're playing 6th grade teams. Could they win without him? Maybe. Probably. Who knows. But they are play 6th grade kids. That's the difference. Igloo brings in 6th grade kids to play 5th grade kids. You don't see how that's different? If you don't then you are part of the reason your kids team is a joke and not taken seriously by a single coach or parent.


In the opinion of most (other than a few Badgers parents), 91 Bandits are the top 2023 team out there, which they've proven time and time again.

However, when the 2022 kid with the June 2003 birthday plays with them in the B division of a 2022 tournament, they SHOULD win (as is the case when any of the top teams in an age group plays weaker teams in the grade above them -- now, if they started playing in tournaments with the real 2022 "A" teams and beat them consistently, that would be impressive). BUT, Bandits should stop talking about themselves as a 2023 team when they win these 2022 "B" brackets with the older kid -- and this includes when the coach tweets or posts something on Instagram about how proud he is of his "2023 Bandits playing up" -- because it's not a 2023 team playing up -- at that point it is a 2022 team of really talented and well-coached kids in the proper age group playing down in a B bracket or in a weaker tournament.


Exactly! A lot of smoke and mirror shenanigans going on!
Say what you want about kids playing w bandits but they do not play B division 2022 Find a tourn they played B Maybe a few tournaments were not strong but never B you can not find a B tournament including indoor tournaments. Please stop w this.
Spring jam, Blatant
All these igloo people trying to convince themselves they are in a great spot . Just practice and try beating one of the top teams. Let your teams success do the talking
it will be interesting to see how the teams below the Bandits come out this spring/summer with player changes, coaching changes etc
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Say what you want about kids playing w bandits but they do not play B division 2022 Find a tourn they played B Maybe a few tournaments were not strong but never B you can not find a B tournament including indoor tournaments. Please stop w this.

They just played B in Holbrook a couple of weeks ago. If you were on the team you would know that.
No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense
Spring jam is one we are playing
To be clear - Igloo knew all about the 2022 kid they had on the 2023 team last year from the beginning. It was known all the way up the chain to AA who approved it. The 2022 kid is not on DK's new team. He is now on Outlaws 2022.

Now let's please move on...
DK won't allow it
It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?


He's making the point that although the 2021 team is good, since Igloo doesn't have teams in the older grades they won't get any quality showcase invitations. That's why Igloo will find it very hard to exist in a few years.


Doesn't work that way. Invites when they mean something will go to the best player. Of course any showcase 91 is involved in will do their best to shut out better kids so theirs get highlighted, which is a disrace. Honor the game??
LI parents are in for a rude awakening if some 10 yr old playing down gets you all upset. Wait till you play the Md,philly, and Boston teams in a few years. Not to mention Canadian and any teams off the reservations.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.

Exactly !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are you discussing Igloo 2021 on this thread?


He's making the point that although the 2021 team is good, since Igloo doesn't have teams in the older grades they won't get any quality showcase invitations. That's why Igloo will find it very hard to exist in a few years.


Doesn't work that way. Invites when they mean something will go to the best player. Of course any showcase 91 is involved in will do their best to shut out better kids so theirs get highlighted, which is a disrace. Honor the game??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To be clear - Igloo knew all about the 2022 kid they had on the 2023 team last year from the beginning. It was known all the way up the chain to AA who approved it. The 2022 kid is not on DK's new team. He is now on Outlaws 2022.

Now let's please move on...


He is not on 2022 Outlaws.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha


Blatant Fall Jam - they played Express B, Igloo B, Top Side Snipers and Hitmen to win the 6th Grade South bracket.

In the Shamrock Shootout, they played in the only 2022 division, but their opponents were Duke's National team, Empire Green and Hitmen. With all due respect, not an "A" bracket -- but you can't fault them in that case.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


Sounds like it! I don't believe one bit of this! There are plenty of teams out there getting kids recruited. NLF is just another money grab. If the kid is good, he will be recruited to a good program. Nobody is recruiting the scrubs just because they are a NLF member! That's funny! FYI: if your kid does not start he's nor likely to be recruited.
It is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


Sounds like it! I don't believe one bit of this! There are plenty of teams out there getting kids recruited. NLF is just another money grab. If the kid is good, he will be recruited to a good program. Nobody is recruiting the scrubs just because they are a NLF member! That's funny! FYI: if your kid does not start he's nor likely to be recruited.
Quote ""t is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.""

Getting on a top club at this age is a waste because the Directors sell you a dream of making the club, take your $100 at tryouts, and are bringing back the same kids. All while they collect $100 x 500 kids at tryouts. Stay on the team you are currently on and when your kid gets into high school go to Prospect camps with the college they want to go to.
I think the point is the NLF kids can do the prospect camps too. Those camps get very expensive with fees and travel costs. Also very time consuming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quote ""t is accurate. You will see as the kids get older. I don't think the NLF and other similar groups (that the NLF copied) in other states claim that this is the only way to get exposure. However it is an additional way to be noticed. These teams in the NLF will be at the same tournaments the other teams will be at but they will also be at NLF invite only tournaments with college coaches. It can't hurt them. You will also see by 6th or 7th grade the best teams are set. Trying to get on one of those top teams that are known for recruitment and directors with college conections will be more difficult as each year passes. Most kids are playing to have fun at this age but there are a bunch who think they want to play in college. I agree it is way to early to discuss this stuff but at the same time it may be too late to get on one of the top teams as most will be set in the next couple years.""

Getting on a top club at this age is a waste because the Directors sell you a dream of making the club, take your $100 at tryouts, and are bringing back the same kids. All while they collect $100 x 500 kids at tryouts. Stay on the team you are currently on and when your kid gets into high school go to Prospect camps with the college they want to go to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No they played A there was only one 2022 division. They played Dukes national in finals. It is on tourney machine for actual proof, but why would you want proof when you can lie. We're there some B teams in it ? Maybe but who's fault is that. The Dukes loaded a team up and got beat. Some 2022 top teams also played up as smash played 2021. So your information is off . Please stop with this nonsense

LOL... You can't admit that Bandits plays "B". hahahaha


Blatant Fall Jam - they played Express B, Igloo B, Top Side Snipers and Hitmen to win the 6th Grade South bracket.

In the Shamrock Shootout, they played in the only 2022 division, but their opponents were Duke's National team, Empire Green and Hitmen. With all due respect, not an "A" bracket -- but you can't fault them in that case.


Who cares if they play A or B??? Just let them play 2022 so our boys have a shot at winning! Lol!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.


Outside of the NLF, what other exclusive/ exclusionary club partnerships exist?

None in New [lacrosse]. All that exist are far and don't take Long Island teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It does work that way. There are recruitment groups of teams like NLF and others that get many coaches to attend several events a year. Then there are other events were teams are invited to send best players. Those are specific places coaches go where it matters which team your son is on. All the other stuff like open tournaments such as NXT or Lax Fest don't get a big turn out of coaches compared to the other invite only group events. Then there are camps and other things any one can join. Most teams rely on the open to anyone tournaments. The advantage of being part of a group is those kids could attend the open to anyone events and those invite only where there are sometimes over 100 head coaches who attend to look at a limit group of kids with tournament games and with non committed all star games. Most teams rely on the open events where the assistant to the assistant coach attends with a turnout of 50 to 75 coaches looking at way too many kids and teams because the event is open to everyone. If it means nothing to be part of these groups teams like Igloo would not be trying to get in. No doubt a kid who is the top 50 in the country will find a spot but he would find a better spot on a team associated with the right groups. If your kid is not a top 50 in the country lesser talented kids have a better shot at making it with more exposure with the invite only groups.


You obviously haven't been through the process. Your statement Is so full of exaggerations and obvious inaccuracies you must work for NLF.


My older son is a 2018. We're in the middle of it now. His statement is spot on.


Outside of the NLF, what other exclusive/ exclusionary club partnerships exist?
NLF is not local either. They operate out of Bradenton FL. They have just expanded to the North. At least one Long Island team tried to join but were denied. With these types of groups It appears a club needs to have top teams in each year and a history of having top teams in the recruitment years to join. That seams to be the way all these groups work. Of course there is politics as with all groups so odds are teams are also denied because existing members won't allow a club in.
were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade
I'm curious to hear what the college colleges who run smaller clubs now will have to say when the NLF tells them they are not invited because they have no history of successful teams!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade


You're righr, you are silly. To think you're kid will be recruited at all. You do realize that most don't. Parents are living in dream world! And just because your kid is a great player in 5th, means very little. My son is now a senior. Only one of the starters on his very good 5th grade team was recruited. Ironically the best kid from that team turned out to be a 3rd string middie! Just let your kid play and have fun, don't buy into all this NLF crap. There will be plenty of opportunities to be noticed if you are a stand out player!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
were an igloo family and will prob leave closer to recruiting years unless the teams ahead get traction at showcases and commitments. seems silly to be having this convo in 5th grade


You're righr, you are silly. To think you're kid will be recruited at all. You do realize that most don't. Parents are living in dream world! And just because your kid is a great player in 5th, means very little. My son is now a senior. Only one of the starters on his very good 5th grade team was recruited. Ironically the best kid from that team turned out to be a 3rd string middie! Just let your kid play and have fun, don't buy into all this NLF crap. There will be plenty of opportunities to be noticed if you are a stand out player!


Recruitment aside, NLF tourneys will draw the best conpetition.
Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??


I can't believe it took this long for this to get posted. would have thought it would have gone up during the drive back on 95
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard a story about last weekend down in Maryland, a buddy of mine from down there said that a team from Long Island..Express 2023 came down and swept the field.. played back to back and the boys really clicked...that was not what he called about..He said that after winning the last game,I think in OT.. and going undefeated,the group from New [lacrosse] was ecststc..except for one father of one young boy, who was so emotionally distraught that he started to shout at other fathers on his own team that their kids were selfish and his kid was..blah blah blah,,my buddy said this father then tried to fight a few of the parents on his own team..my buddy has akid who plays both football and lax,,he was like,,is this what lax is about? anybody else hear anything about this fight at end of game?


Was it the DELETED that laughs at kids when he hurts them??


I can't believe it took this long for this to get posted. would have thought it would have gone up during the drive back on 95


Badgers are a perfect team. Express is a perfect club. There is no infighting. They are better than last year. These are not the drones you're looking for.
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?


not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?


not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.


The blue team from East Islip.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?

Brentwood
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Shore 2 Shore had a scrimmage last weekend. How'd the 2nd best team in the country make out?


Who did they play?


not sure, but I heard they got roughed up pretty good.


The blue team from East Islip.


They one a weak fall tourney and claimed to be better than everyone but the Bandits. Now they lose to a mediocre team and it's crickets. Typical.
Who did they play?
The only thing that is typical is everyone has their facts wrong. Shore 2 Shore has not scrimmaged anybody this spring, only practices. Someone has the wrong team or just stirring the pot.
Any teams playing in Pro Player Spring Jam next weekend? Rumor has it the competition will be very impressive for a preseason tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any teams playing in Pro Player Spring Jam next weekend? Rumor has it the competition will be very impressive for a preseason tournament.


Team Hills 2023
Sachem 2023 Black
ESM 2024/2023
Smithtown2023
The British are coming, the British are coming!!!!
Is team hills travel or town team ?

We played in syosset shootout and they were not allowed to play in championship game because they had many players from other outside towns. Is this the same team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any teams playing in Pro Player Spring Jam next weekend? Rumor has it the competition will be very impressive for a preseason tournament.


Team Hills 2023
Sachem 2023 Black
ESM 2024/2023
Smithtown2023


Not the town this weekend. The travel next weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is team hills travel or town team ?

We played in syosset shootout and they were not allowed to play in championship game because they had many players from other outside towns. Is this the same team?


No, totally different team. These are hills kids. PAL 2nd team.
will see. would be shameful to be disqualified again and for the handful of true hills boys to deal go through the embarrassment.
I'm sure JC will have a Huntington team with a roster full of non-local kids.
100% correct. To add to statement on prior post, it's same leadership who makes it a totally different team and goes under different team names. At syosset they went as huntington, disqualied to play in finals after discovered many outsiders used. Blatant tourney went under huntington as well used few outsiders, many upset parents spilled the beans on sidelines to the other teams parents.let's see what happens this weekend. keep it simple, let the boys from their town play with no outsiders.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
100% correct. To add to statement on prior post, it's same leadership who makes it a totally different team and goes under different team names. At syosset they went as huntington, disqualied to play in finals after discovered many outsiders used. Blatant tourney went under huntington as well used few outsiders, many upset parents spilled the beans on sidelines to the other teams parents.let's see what happens this weekend. keep it simple, let the boys from their town play with no outsiders.


Did you see how it turned out for them?
Massapequa crushed them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
100% correct. To add to statement on prior post, it's same leadership who makes it a totally different team and goes under different team names. At syosset they went as huntington, disqualied to play in finals after discovered many outsiders used. Blatant tourney went under huntington as well used few outsiders, many upset parents spilled the beans on sidelines to the other teams parents.let's see what happens this weekend. keep it simple, let the boys from their town play with no outsiders.


Did you see how it turned out for them?
Massapequa crushed them.


Yeah really. They didn't overwhelm anyone else. Tied with rvc til a couple minutes left. If that was igloo doesn't bode well. Why would Huntington parents put up with that nonsense?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
100% correct. To add to statement on prior post, it's same leadership who makes it a totally different team and goes under different team names. At syosset they went as huntington, disqualied to play in finals after discovered many outsiders used. Blatant tourney went under huntington as well used few outsiders, many upset parents spilled the beans on sidelines to the other teams parents.let's see what happens this weekend. keep it simple, let the boys from their town play with no outsiders.


Did you see how it turned out for them?
Massapequa crushed them.


'Pequa does the same thing.
You are incorrect. Every boy on that Massapequa team is from Massapequa and there are no holdbacks! Your welcome to check the PAL roster. The Huntington parents only let out their secret when they lost. If they left with their free tshirt they all would have kept their little secret.
it's great to see tournament directors and upset parents take a stand on this matter and hopefully will get back to town team tournaments. If you borrow 1 outsider your not considered a town team, you would need to register in travel bracket, very simple.kudos to past tourney director who was sympathetic to concerns of the legit town team coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
it's great to see tournament directors and upset parents take a stand on this matter and hopefully will get back to town team tournaments. If you borrow 1 outsider your not considered a town team, you would need to register in travel bracket, very simple.kudos to past tourney director who was sympathetic to concerns of the legit town team coaches.


Yeah, too bad Blatant looked the other way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
it's great to see tournament directors and upset parents take a stand on this matter and hopefully will get back to town team tournaments. If you borrow 1 outsider your not considered a town team, you would need to register in travel bracket, very simple.kudos to past tourney director who was sympathetic to concerns of the legit town team coaches.


Yeah, too bad Blatant looked the other way.


I'm shocked. Blatant looked the other way...money talks, nobody walks...or do they?
Two Massapequa teams played in Blatant.
All boys from Massapequa. Two PAL teams. The Blue team didn't play RVC, they won all their respective games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two Massapequa teams played in Blatant.
All boys from Massapequa. Two PAL teams. The Blue team didn't play RVC, they won all their respective games.


Doesn't Masapequa have a "travel" team and a B team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two Massapequa teams played in Blatant.
All boys from Massapequa. Two PAL teams. The Blue team didn't play RVC, they won all their respective games.

So which Huntington PAL team played in the tourney? Is there a second team with all town kids? I heard the team that played wasn't a town only team. Do all of the kids play on the same club team?
Massapequa has two PAL teams. They both play in tournaments. Blue and Gold.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Massapequa has two PAL teams. They both play in tournaments. Blue and Gold.

One is the A team and other the the B team correct?
Huntington has 2 PAL teams. Huntington parents on this team should be ashamed of themselves. The mighty tee shirt is more important than any integrity. This coaches should be embarrassed to keep being exposed in each tournament that they enter. It a shame too because they are supposed to be representing a good town. Now Huntington can't field a legitimate team of True Huntington players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Two Massapequa teams played in Blatant.
All boys from Massapequa. Two PAL teams. The Blue team didn't play RVC, they won all their respective games.



Was referring to the supposed "huntington" team
The town that my son plays for didn't have enough kids to field a team so they combined with another town that had the same problem to make a team. My question to you is- does that make the team a travel team ? No it doesn't. They are a bunch of kids trying to play lax, some kids are very good and do play travel lax and other don't play lax except for PAL, but still does not make them a travel team.
A travel team is made up of kids that want to play lacrosse and get better as they grow and their parents pay alot of money for promises and broken dreams.
If a town team can beat you with one kid that may or may not live in that town then I suggest that you get back to the basics and practice practice practice
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The town that my son plays for didn't have enough kids to field a team so they combined with another town that had the same problem to make a team. My question to you is- does that make the team a travel team ? No it doesn't. They are a bunch of kids trying to play lax, some kids are very good and do play travel lax and other don't play lax except for PAL, but still does not make them a travel team.
A travel team is made up of kids that want to play lacrosse and get better as they grow and their parents pay alot of money for promises and broken dreams.
If a town team can beat you with one kid that may or may not live in that town then I suggest that you get back to the basics and practice practice practice


WRONG!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Huntington has 2 PAL teams. Huntington parents on this team should be ashamed of themselves. The mighty tee shirt is more important than any integrity. This coaches should be embarrassed to keep being exposed in each tournament that they enter. It a shame too because they are supposed to be representing a good town. Now Huntington can't field a legitimate team of True Huntington players.


Were both teams in the Tournament?
Does Huntington have an A and B team?
Huntington did not have 2 teams in the tournament, at least not their PAL teams. Huntington says there is no A or B, but just ask the parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Huntington did not have 2 teams in the tournament, at least not their PAL teams. Huntington says there is no A or B, but just ask the parents.

I wonder why their PAL teams were not in the tournament. Maybe the team that entered wasn't part of the town. I'm sure there are enough kids in that town to combine to make a full team. Sounds fishy to me.
I agree
Any PAL scores over the weekend?
You're tracking PAL scores??? My kid plays for Northport and lost. No clue what the score was.
Quick question, how many towns at this age go A/B format??? I thought PAL rules say teams have to be balanced. Is there a benefit to an A/B format?
Massapequa has a great 2023 program, goods kids and goo coaching.
You guys are all NUTS. The problem is with PAL. If lax PAL was run like football PAL, there would be no need for corupt "town tournaments". There should be playoffs and a championship. IT'S A BUSINESS. If you don't like the business model, stop entering town only tournaments. Fools!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You guys are all NUTS. The problem is with PAL. If lax PAL was run like football PAL, there would be no need for corupt "town tournaments". There should be playoffs and a championship. IT'S A BUSINESS. If you don't like the business model, stop entering town only tournaments. Fools!!!!!

You sir are obviously an idiot. Football PAL allows many different kids from many different towns to play on any team they want. You are must be a soccer Dad.
Here we go, I'm gonna take the bait and argue with a parrent that is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please read my comment again and again until you can understand that NO TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR WILL EVER CARE IF A TOWN TEAM HAS ONE OR TWO OUT OF TOWN PLAYERS ON THEIR TEAM. It's a BUSINESS. I also happen to be on the board of Suffolk PAL football and yes, players from other towns CAN play. I didn't think I had to clarify my point to that extent. Now that you are done pouting, what would you say about a PAL lax format that ONLY allowed town players with a playoff/ championship????? Good idea or no???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here we go, I'm gonna take the bait and argue with a parrent that is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please read my comment again and again until you can understand that NO TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR WILL EVER CARE IF A TOWN TEAM HAS ONE OR TWO OUT OF TOWN PLAYERS ON THEIR TEAM. It's a BUSINESS. I also happen to be on the board of Suffolk PAL football and yes, players from other towns CAN play. I didn't think I had to clarify my point to that extent. Now that you are done pouting, what would you say about a PAL lax format that ONLY allowed town players with a playoff/ championship????? Good idea or no???


Mr. PAL board member.. Are you the box of rocks that gives the rules out and puts us to sleep with your past experiences (that no one gives a [lacrosse] about) at the beginning of the season at the "coaches clinic"?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Quick question, how many towns at this age go A/B format??? I thought PAL rules say teams have to be balanced. Is there a benefit to an A/B format?


Our town split them as evenly as you could with 2nd graders. Now 5th grade. They've all stayed on the same team since with some kids coming and going. One team is in the top division, other 2 in the 2nd division.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here we go, I'm gonna take the bait and argue with a parrent that is clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed. Please read my comment again and again until you can understand that NO TOURNAMENT DIRECTOR WILL EVER CARE IF A TOWN TEAM HAS ONE OR TWO OUT OF TOWN PLAYERS ON THEIR TEAM. It's a BUSINESS. I also happen to be on the board of Suffolk PAL football and yes, players from other towns CAN play. I didn't think I had to clarify my point to that extent. Now that you are done pouting, what would you say about a PAL lax format that ONLY allowed town players with a playoff/ championship????? Good idea or no???


Absolutely a good idea! That's how it should be!
PAL is a joke. Our town has a PAL Director that thinks the kids should be divided up equally. The only thing that has actually happened is that the town is divided because of this and great players are stuck on the worse team. Can't wait for Middle School.
What town?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What town?


Lots do it that way.
You said "lots". Name some please...Most towns that enough for 2 teams will go A/B from 5th grade on. I would say the minority keeps it balanced.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
PAL is a joke. Our town has a PAL Director that thinks the kids should be divided up equally. The only thing that has actually happened is that the town is divided because of this and great players are stuck on the worse team. Can't wait for Middle School.


You are part of the problem. PAL is about developing players. Shouldn't be all about winning and being on the best team. Let me guess, your little Johnnie is a top player and his team doesn't win enough. Wah. Teach your kid to be a team player and a good sport. The chances of him getting recruited to a top school is slim at best!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
PAL is a joke. Our town has a PAL Director that thinks the kids should be divided up equally. The only thing that has actually happened is that the town is divided because of this and great players are stuck on the worse team. Can't wait for Middle School.


You are part of the problem. PAL is about developing players. Shouldn't be all about winning and being on the best team. Let me guess, your little Johnnie is a top player and his team doesn't win enough. Wah. Teach your kid to be a team player and a good sport. The chances of him getting recruited to a top school is slim at best!

It's all about development and where kids fit. The great lacrosse towns do it right with A/B and that's why their High Schools win. Maybe that's why you don't understand.
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


Because you are cheap, that's why. Ruining your town, that's a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits

Who are the Bandits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits

Who are the Bandits?


you must be new to this.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits

Who are the Bandits?

Aren't the Bandits the group of kids who rob the score board from every team in 5th grade, and that's why they are called the Bandits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits

Who are the Bandits?

Aren't the Bandits the group of kids who rob the score board from every team in 5th grade, and that's why they are called the Bandits?


And many teams in the 6th grade too!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your star isn't getting what they need from PAL quit. Play on a top travel team and call it a day.

Don't believe in club travel. I believe in promoting my town unlike you. You can keep ruining your town future lacrosse program. Maybe you should call it quits from lacrosse.


You can do both...start a "town travel" team and have little Johnny Gait tryout for the Bandits

Who are the Bandits?


The team that cheats by featuring a holdback playing down when it's convenient! while daddy complains about other teams use hold backs!
My kid plays PAL so we support the town anduring he thinks it is fun. He has been on the same team since 2nd grade. We have several teams in the 2023 group. They have all bwent the same since 2nd grade. They don't stack certain teams
There is no A & B team. The are all.about development. My kid also plays on a travel team
That is lore competitive.
I see it completely opposite. The A players will be fine on any PAL team. The reason the smart towns go A/B is so the C/D players have a chance to develop. We've all seen what happens on balanced teams, the A players control the entire game. The C/D players never get involved and wind up not liking the sport. When they have a chance to play with other "under developed" players ( more game time touches), they excell and eventually when High School comes, you know have a solid team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see it completely opposite. The A players will be fine on any PAL team. The reason the smart towns go A/B is so the C/D players have a chance to develop. We've all seen what happens on balanced teams, the A players control the entire game. The C/D players never get involved and wind up not liking the sport. When they have a chance to play with other "under developed" players ( more game time touches), they excell and eventually when High School comes, you know have a solid team.


That depends on the coach. A good coach that is all about developing players will teach his "A" players to move the ball and PASS to the "B" and "C" players. It is about developing a TEAM and teaching team work and sportsmanship at the PAL level. If you only worry about the couple of "A" players at the PAL level you will lose some players that could develop into "A" players at the high school level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays PAL so we support the town anduring he thinks it is fun. He has been on the same team since 2nd grade. We have several teams in the 2023 group. They have all bwent the same since 2nd grade. They don't stack certain teams
There is no A & B team. The are all.about development. My kid also plays on a travel team
That is lore competitive.

So your kids plays on a 2023 travel team and you don't know the Bandits?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays PAL so we support the town anduring he thinks it is fun. He has been on the same team since 2nd grade. We have several teams in the 2023 group. They have all bwent the same since 2nd grade. They don't stack certain teams
There is no A & B team. The are all.about development. My kid also plays on a travel team
That is lore competitive.

So your kids plays on a 2023 travel team and you don't know the Bandits?

My kid does not play on a travel team. I do not know who are care about the Bandits. They can play on swing sets for all I care. I just think the PAL should have an A and a B team. It's a joke in our town.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid plays PAL so we support the town anduring he thinks it is fun. He has been on the same team since 2nd grade. We have several teams in the 2023 group. They have all bwent the same since 2nd grade. They don't stack certain teams
There is no A & B team. The are all.about development. My kid also plays on a travel team
That is lore competitive.

So your kids plays on a 2023 travel team and you don't know the Bandits?

My kid does not play on a travel team. I do not know who are care about the Bandits. They can play on swing sets for all I care. I just think the PAL should have an A and a B team. It's a joke in our town.


And which team would you boy be on, let me guess.
Who cares about the Bandits, most of those boys will fade away as others get better. 5th grade is a poor indicator of future success. Shame on the parents for pumping their kids up as the best at this age. Most of you will be scratching your heads in a few years wondering why Johnnys not starting. Seen it happen plenty (have older kids). Enjoy it now, while you can!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about the Bandits, most of those boys will fade away as others get better. 5th grade is a poor indicator of future success. Shame on the parents for pumping their kids up as the best at this age. Most of you will be scratching your heads in a few years wondering why Johnnys not starting. Seen it happen plenty (have older kids). Enjoy it now, while you can!


Most kids quit the team and most parents retire.
I saw the 2023 Warriors play a great game today against the 2023 Express. Final was 7 to 5. They really closed the gap between those 2 teams. Last year that game would not have been close. Warriors looked like they improved and are much better and the Express did not look so good. They are a good team but not what they use to be. Bandits will crush them this year.
How could the Warriors play great but the team that beat them play poorly. Makes no sense. BTW if you saw the game you would know the score was 7 - 4 & not 7 - 5.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw the 2023 Warriors play a great game today against the 2023 Express. Final was 7 to 5. They really closed the gap between those 2 teams. Last year that game would not have been close. Warriors looked like they improved and are much better and the Express did not look so good. They are a good team but not what they use to be. Bandits will crush them this year.
I guess they wish BM was still coaching. Ohh the good old years I miss.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw the 2023 Warriors play a great game today against the 2023 Express. Final was 7 to 5. They really closed the gap between those 2 teams. Last year that game would not have been close. Warriors looked like they improved and are much better and the Express did not look so good. They are a good team but not what they use to be. Bandits will crush them this year.


Yes - closed the gap against the express B team - great job winning the tournament...not
Just. be happy the Warriors played a decent game against a "B" team. Until they beat - Igloo, Shore to Shore or the Badgers they will always be 2nd tier.
If the Warriors played great against a 'B' team & lost what are they - a 'C' or maybe a 'D' team?
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Warriors played great against a 'B' team & lost what are they - a 'C' or maybe a 'D' team?


No - just a B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just. be happy the Warriors played a decent game against a "B" team. Until they beat - Igloo, Shore to Shore or the Badgers they will always be 2nd tier.



All the teams mentioned above are 2nd tier.
The express team that won is the HB team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The express team that won is the HB team.


Yes it was, surprising
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Warriors played great against a 'B' team & lost what are they - a 'C' or maybe a 'D' team?

They lost to the Honeybadgers who are clearly an A team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the Warriors played great against a 'B' team & lost what are they - a 'C' or maybe a 'D' team?

They lost to the Honeybadgers who are clearly an A team


Warriors (B team) lost to the HoneyBadgers (A team) 7-4. Score was close the entire game with Warriors leading a good portion of the game. Either Warriors are much better or HB are not as good but Warriors clearly closed the gap on HB's. Can't question that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How could the Warriors play great but the team that beat them play poorly. Makes no sense. BTW if you saw the game you would know the score was 7 - 4 & not 7 - 5.


Easy; B team ( Warriors) played great against an A Team ( Honey Badgers) who played poorly. Makes perfect sense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just. be happy the Warriors played a decent game against a "B" team. Until they beat - Igloo, Shore to Shore or the Badgers they will always be 2nd tier.


Until Igloo and Shore to Shore beat someone in the summer they are as insignificant. No one cared about igloo last year and that hasn't changed. S2S played one tournament... In the fall no less. Wait till the summer. And then that team will be broken up.
So much negativity. Crazy. No matter who plays who, someone will always have a gripe. Can you imagine our parents doing this back in the 80's? Our world is circling down the drain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


But this will get them into Chaminade!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


You can't even put them down right. Badgers are the A team. No money grab there. Right there with everyone minus bandits obviously. B team will compete with the next tier. C team is a an atm machine for Mr express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


You can't even put them down right. Badgers are the A team. No money grab there. Right there with everyone minus bandits obviously. B team will compete with the next tier. C team is a an atm machine for Mr express.


Yes but you get one on one training from him for $90/hr. That's 50% off his normal rape fees.
Express having 3 teams is a joke! The Warriors will always be second fiddle to the Bandits. Their coach is obsessed with trying to be the best and it will never happen. They like to say they are an "A" team but aren't. Maybe if they focused on developing the kids instead of scoring a free t-shirt they would be better off@
Can anyone ever say anything good about a team. What are we teaching our kids if we constantly put down every other team or make excuses why they won or lost depending on who you like. It's very clear when you read some of this stuff that it obviously comes from a dad who's son got cut or doesn't get to play much. I have news for you,everyone who has a kid that plays sports will experience some dissatisfaction and disappointment on his team. Better to keep him practicing and find a good fit then bad mouth everyone. As far as this A team B team stuff goes. If you play in the A bracket consitantly you are an A team. Yes it is possible to have 2 A teams in one club even if one is better then the other. Who cares if Express has 3 teams. If the kids and parents like the coach that's there business. You can call the Warriors a B team all you want. When they make it to the finals in the A bracket they are an A team. Even if they lose to the Bandits or Honey Badgers. Putting yourself in the B bracket because you think you can't beat the team you will meet in the finals makes you a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


Says the guy who's kid didn't make the HB...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone ever say anything good about a team. What are we teaching our kids if we constantly put down every other team or make excuses why they won or lost depending on who you like. It's very clear when you read some of this stuff that it obviously comes from a dad who's son got cut or doesn't get to play much. I have news for you,everyone who has a kid that plays sports will experience some dissatisfaction and disappointment on his team. Better to keep him practicing and find a good fit then bad mouth everyone. As far as this A team B team stuff goes. If you play in the A bracket consitantly you are an A team. Yes it is possible to have 2 A teams in one club even if one is better then the other. Who cares if Express has 3 teams. If the kids and parents like the coach that's there business. You can call the Warriors a B team all you want. When they make it to the finals in the A bracket they are an A team. Even if they lose to the Bandits or Honey Badgers. Putting yourself in the B bracket because you think you can't beat the team you will meet in the finals makes you a B team.


That's exactly correct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express having 3 teams is a joke! The Warriors will always be second fiddle to the Bandits. Their coach is obsessed with trying to be the best and it will never happen. They like to say they are an "A" team but aren't. Maybe if they focused on developing the kids instead of scoring a free t-shirt they would be better off@


Never say Never look at Smash & United 2022. Warriors keep the faith.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


Says the guy who's kid didn't make the HB...




"make" the HB. HAHAHA. As if any old kid that's really good can "make" that team or any other team that has been together since the SECOND grade!! At this point, kids aren't making many of these AAAAAA teams. It's all about who you or your kid knows. The Bandits, HB, IGLOO or even OUTLAWS Select have squads that are basically set in stone. If your guy is big, strong, fast and has superior stick skills, he'll have a 40% chance of getting on these teams. UNLESS, you know the coach/director. It is the way it is. The "late blooming" 11 year old has to play his way up. Even then, the coaches most likely have already have a relationship with the teams parents and knows all the kids. Ending this relationship will prove "sticky". Most people avoid conflict. It's probably not easy telling a parent that your kid is getting cut after having him play for you for 2-3 years.

Maybe if the kid can play goalie or is a great faceoff guy, then things would be different. But, these SUPER teams are pretty much set. That is why they are called clubs and not democratically conceived teams. Autocratically controlled dictatorships. VIVA LA LAX!!!

There will be new teams popping up going forward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.

Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


Says the guy who's kid didn't make the HB...


Pretty sure the Bandits grabbed 3 new kids this year and one last spring. Igloo kids were trying out everywhere to get away from that program and HB just added a few as well. Not every kid is good enough to play for HB or Bandits, but the ones that are make the team.



"make" the HB. HAHAHA. As if any old kid that's really good can "make" that team or any other team that has been together since the SECOND grade!! At this point, kids aren't making many of these AAAAAA teams. It's all about who you or your kid knows. The Bandits, HB, IGLOO or even OUTLAWS Select have squads that are basically set in stone. If your guy is big, strong, fast and has superior stick skills, he'll have a 40% chance of getting on these teams. UNLESS, you know the coach/director. It is the way it is. The "late blooming" 11 year old has to play his way up. Even then, the coaches most likely have already have a relationship with the teams parents and knows all the kids. Ending this relationship will prove "sticky". Most people avoid conflict. It's probably not easy telling a parent that your kid is getting cut after having him play for you for 2-3 years.

Maybe if the kid can play goalie or is a great faceoff guy, then things would be different. But, these SUPER teams are pretty much set. That is why they are called clubs and not democratically conceived teams. Autocratically controlled dictatorships. VIVA LA LAX!!!

There will be new teams popping up going forward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So Express doesn't have an "A" team anymore.
Nope. They have 3 money grab teams in 5th grade. Maybe they'll have 4 teams next year.


Says the guy who's kid didn't make the HB...



"make" the HB. HAHAHA. As if any old kid that's really good can "make" that team or any other team that has been together since the SECOND grade!! At this point, kids aren't making many of these AAAAAA teams. It's all about who you or your kid knows. The Bandits, HB, IGLOO or even OUTLAWS Select have squads that are basically set in stone. If your guy is big, strong, fast and has superior stick skills, he'll have a 40% chance of getting on these teams. UNLESS, you know the coach/director. It is the way it is. The "late blooming" 11 year old has to play his way up. Even then, the coaches most likely have already have a relationship with the teams parents and knows all the kids. Ending this relationship will prove "sticky". Most people avoid conflict. It's probably not easy telling a parent that your kid is getting cut after having him play for you for 2-3 years.

Maybe if the kid can play goalie or is a great faceoff guy, then things would be different. But, these SUPER teams are pretty much set. That is why they are called clubs and not democratically conceived teams. Autocratically controlled dictatorships. VIVA LA LAX!!!

There will be new teams popping up going forward.


Pretty sure the Bandits grabbed 3 new kids this year and one last spring. Igloo kids were trying out everywhere to get away from that program and HB just added a few as well. Not every kid is good enough to play for HB or Bandits, but the ones that are make the team.
True. Badgers have only 1 strong attackman that stands out. Other attack slots up for grabs. Rotating 3rd line middys in there just to get some minutes. They will officially add the ex-Bandits kid and a few others next season. And then those HB kids that get cut will find other spots. Still good players. Movement does happen.
Watch out for E3.... Major step up this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express having 3 teams is a joke! The Warriors will always be second fiddle to the Bandits. Their coach is obsessed with trying to be the best and it will never happen. They like to say they are an "A" team but aren't. Maybe if they focused on developing the kids instead of scoring a free t-shirt they would be better off@


Never say Never look at Smash & United 2022. Warriors keep the faith.


And a coach "obsessed with trying to be the best", I like that! And if my son didn't make Bandits, I'd be happy to have him play for that team. If they keep fighting, that seems like a good spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express having 3 teams is a joke! The Warriors will always be second fiddle to the Bandits. Their coach is obsessed with trying to be the best and it will never happen. They like to say they are an "A" team but aren't. Maybe if they focused on developing the kids instead of scoring a free t-shirt they would be better off@


Never say Never look at Smash & United 2022. Warriors keep the faith.


And a coach "obsessed with trying to be the best", I like that! And if my son didn't make Bandits, I'd be happy to have him play for that team. If they keep fighting, that seems like a good spot.


A competitive team with an impartial coach who doesn't have a kid on the team and is obsessed with trying to be the best, you say? Most sane parents would sign up for that.
which express team was that in blatant yday?
Which bracket? There was one in each. Their b and c teams. Badgers weren't there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which bracket? There was one in each. Their b and c teams. Badgers weren't there.


seems like their B should have played B
I thought the Channy teams were A Teams?
Channy teams are the cash cows
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Channy teams were A Teams?
. The Channy team is a B team and played in the A division. Without them there would have been only three teams in the A division. Not their fault that they got moved up to even out the divisions in a weakly attended tournament. Look at the 2024, only three teams. Blatant had some work to do to drive up attendance. The Lowe divisions are your future and the attendance was vary sparse. Don't blame it on an express money grab, they played in a division that they should not have been in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the Channy teams were A Teams?
. The Channy team is a B team and played in the A division. Without them there would have been only three teams in the A division. Not their fault that they got moved up to even out the divisions in a weakly attended tournament. Look at the 2024, only three teams. Blatant had some work to do to drive up attendance. The Lowe divisions are your future and the attendance was vary sparse. Don't blame it on an express money grab, they played in a division that they should not have been in.

Blatant did a fine job attracting teams. They had 7 2025 teams and 7 2024 teams. Not bad for the younger divisions. Also, we all know there are only 2x 2024 AA teams on LI so give credit to the Outlaws for playing both Taz and WP
Shore 2 Shore would have beat all of those teams. Terrible bracket.
Shore 2 Shore helmets at Viper.
I saw a guy in a Mets hat at the Viper tournament. I bet that guy can hit!
Shore to Shore will beat the Bandits this year!

Believe that!
who the [lacrosse] cares....go beat your dog u loser....dont forget ur red cups so you have the courage to yell at the officials...LOSER!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Shore to Shore will beat the Bandits this year!

Believe that!


Zero shot of that happening
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who the [lacrosse] cares....go beat your dog u loser....dont forget ur red cups so you have the courage to yell at the officials...LOSER!


Not a S2S parent - just someone trying to stir the pot..
Who is Shore to Shore? They don't even have a website, tryouts, or any presence anywhere!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw a guy in a Mets hat at the Viper tournament. I bet that guy can hit!


That was me!!! Glad I made an impression on you
loers dads from Manhasset that think their kids are too good for Manhasset 32...so sad...Dads are diks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
loers dads from Manhasset that think their kids are too good for Manhasset 32...so sad...Dads are diks


Just the ones who went to Igloo - they destroyed 32
Wow, after looking through these pages, you guys really need to get job or atleast do your job. Who has time to posts this crap. Really they are 11 year old boys playing a game. The gap between some of these boys is huge. Some are more athletic some can catch some are going to be great. But not 1 of you play in this division. So let the boys play it out. Travel ball is great and the better players should play travel. But it doesn't mean anything when it comes down to whos getting a scholarship. Their in 5th grade! Parents need to get a grip. If your kid likes to play go for travel and the tournaments, but if they are thinking of other sports play PAL. Most coaches are decent enough to teach the kids something.
I played in college and my first coach taught me out of a book, so these boys are all going to be fine players, but hopefully they are better then their parents. If you think your son is all that good for you we should all think that, but to go back and fourth here nit picking every team. Get a clue. Teach your boys to be good students first, then lacrosse players. Some of these boys can barely read. But we overlook that cause he can catch and throw a ball.
Oh and FYI, my son plays travel and PAL. Plays for a good program all around. I enjoy watching him have fun and want to play. The day he tells me it isn't fun is the day I pull him off the team.
You should share ideas and discuss things in a positive way, don't be so miserable in your life to talk down to someone else.
I don't care about the express, or HB, or any other team out there. I get it some of you can't let go to your youth. But let boys be boys and have fun. The game we come to the ones that want it. If you force it they will resent you for it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
loers dads from Manhasset that think their kids are too good for Manhasset 32...so sad...Dads are diks


Just the ones who went to Igloo - they destroyed 32


what destroyed 32 is the loser dad coaches who cant run their own lives while telling everyone else what to do. Its all about them. They cant turn their kids into superstars unless they have other kids for a team. Its all about them and theyve ruined it. Blame yourselves you idiot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, after looking through these pages, you guys really need to get job or atleast do your job. Who has time to posts this crap. Really they are 11 year old boys playing a game. The gap between some of these boys is huge. Some are more athletic some can catch some are going to be great. But not 1 of you play in this division. So let the boys play it out. Travel ball is great and the better players should play travel. But it doesn't mean anything when it comes down to whos getting a scholarship. Their in 5th grade! Parents need to get a grip. If your kid likes to play go for travel and the tournaments, but if they are thinking of other sports play PAL. Most coaches are decent enough to teach the kids something.
I played in college and my first coach taught me out of a book, so these boys are all going to be fine players, but hopefully they are better then their parents. If you think your son is all that good for you we should all think that, but to go back and fourth here nit picking every team. Get a clue. Teach your boys to be good students first, then lacrosse players. Some of these boys can barely read. But we overlook that cause he can catch and throw a ball.
Oh and FYI, my son plays travel and PAL. Plays for a good program all around. I enjoy watching him have fun and want to play. The day he tells me it isn't fun is the day I pull him off the team.
You should share ideas and discuss things in a positive way, don't be so miserable in your life to talk down to someone else.
I don't care about the express, or HB, or any other team out there. I get it some of you can't let go to your youth. But let boys be boys and have fun. The game we come to the ones that want it. If you force it they will resent you for it.


Shut the [lacrosse] up and go away you self-righteous, sanctimonious d-bag.
What Igloo team played in the Future Tournament this weekend? Played some 2023 teams. Lost to Dukes. Was that Igloo 2023?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What Igloo team played in the Future Tournament this weekend? Played some 2023 teams. Lost to Dukes. Was that Igloo 2023?


That was their 2024 team that played in the "Silver" bracket. Tournament organizers only had two 2024 teams so they had them play in the 2023 bracket.
2024 team beat a upstate team called gang green , lost to duke's 2023 and beat virgina select 2023 team.
Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2024 team beat a upstate team called gang green , lost to duke's 2023 and beat virgina select 2023 team.


Thought I heard they didn't play Valley Select? No need to tell tales...
They played valley select in last game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


They signed up because there was supposed to be a 2024 bracket - when they found out last week that there wasn't going to be one, the parents already had the hotel reservations so they agreed to play the only other 2024 team there and to play two 2023 teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


Dukes are a good team. No shame in losing to them. They almost won at Shamrock but lost in the finals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They played valley select in last game
Tough draw for Igloo...not sure why they even played that tourney


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.


Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.
2023 was a weak bracket anyway. Who cares
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 was a weak bracket anyway. Who cares


some people do. since you don't care but took the time to care by posting, you answered your own question.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]They played valley select in last game


How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.


Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.


This was the 2024 team -- no 2023 kids or holdbacks were involved - if you were there, you'd understand why Valley only lost by 2 on Monday -- the fields were soaked on Monday with more than a handful of deep puddles that stopped the ball completely. If it was dry for the finals like it was on Sunday, Duke's 2023 would have beaten Valley Select by a lot more than 2 goals.
The Shore helmets at the Viper were clearly the more dominant players in the 2023 bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]They played valley select in last game

How'd they do against Valley?


6-3 win


So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.


Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.


This was the 2024 team -- no 2023 kids or holdbacks were involved - if you were there, you'd understand why Valley only lost by 2 on Monday -- the fields were soaked on Monday with more than a handful of deep puddles that stopped the ball completely. If it was dry for the finals like it was on Sunday, Duke's 2023 would have beaten Valley Select by a lot more than 2 goals.


Didn't both teams play in the same conditions? Worst excuse ever.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Shore helmets at the Viper were clearly the more dominant players in the 2023 bracket.


OK pot stirrer. Didn't seem that way against massapequa.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Shore helmets at the Viper were clearly the more dominant players in the 2023 bracket.


OK pot stirrer. Didn't seem that way against massapequa.


A Shore parent did not write that...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Shore helmets at the Viper were clearly the more dominant players in the 2023 bracket.


OK pot stirrer. Didn't seem that way against massapequa.


A Shore parent did not write that...


Doesn't matter they write plenty of other crap on here
So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score? [/quote]

6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot. [/quote]

Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.[/quote]

VS parents were freaking, kids were being kids, coaches had no discipline. Bad penalties taken by older bigger boys, would go to the sideline and not even be talked to by their coach. Refs did the right thing saying enough, injuries were coming.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot. [/quote]

Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.[/quote]

VS parents were freaking, kids were being kids, coaches had no discipline. Bad penalties taken by older bigger boys, would go to the sideline and not even be talked to by their coach. Refs did the right thing saying enough, injuries were coming.
[/quote]

Why are we still talking about how this? I've never seen, or even heard of, Valley Select. Also, the Igloo team was a 2024 team (and all Igloo teams cheat anyway). Furthermore, 2023 Dukes National is a good team, but lost to Warriors at Shamrock. You'll probably never see them on LI again unless it's in a weak tourney. Let's move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Valley only lost to Dukes 2023 by 2 and lost to Igloo 2024 by 3. Valley also beat a 6th grade team 9-6. Makes no sense that they could beat Valley. Anyone have the real score?


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.


Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.[/quote]

VS parents were freaking, kids were being kids, coaches had no discipline. Bad penalties taken by older bigger boys, would go to the sideline and not even be talked to by their coach. Refs did the right thing saying enough, injuries were coming.
[/quote]

Why are we still talking about how this? I've never seen, or even heard of, Valley Select. Also, the Igloo team was a 2024 team (and all Igloo teams cheat anyway). Furthermore, 2023 Dukes National is a good team, but lost to Warriors at Shamrock. You'll probably never see them on LI again unless it's in a weak tourney. Let's move on. [/quote]

Who are you kidding? You will see the Dukes again and Valley Select. Its just a matter of time. They are both top clubs that are out of State but don't worry, little Johnny will have to play them in the near future and be beat by better teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


6-3 igloo. Valley players, coaches, parents out of control. Several vicious blind side hits and cross checks especially late. Refs called the game with 2 minutes left after 3rd cheap shot.


Sounds like there's a lot more to this story than this guy is letting out. If it were just the Valley parents/coaches/player and cheap shots then Igloo would have been awarded the win. Something tells me this is a typical igloo team with older kids claiming to be 2023. I'm sure both teams were out of control.


VS parents were freaking, kids were being kids, coaches had no discipline. Bad penalties taken by older bigger boys, would go to the sideline and not even be talked to by their coach. Refs did the right thing saying enough, injuries were coming.
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Why are we still talking about how this? I've never seen, or even heard of, Valley Select. Also, the Igloo team was a 2024 team (and all Igloo teams cheat anyway). Furthermore, 2023 Dukes National is a good team, but lost to Warriors at Shamrock. You'll probably never see them on LI again unless it's in a weak tourney. Let's move on. [/quote]

Who are you kidding? You will see the Dukes again and Valley Select. Its just a matter of time. They are both top clubs that are out of State but don't worry, little Johnny will have to play them in the near future and be beat by better teams [/quote]

LOL! Shouldn't you be posting videos of you kid playing chump teams???
True Blue tied Shore to Shore! DK lost it! Whose next?
Score?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue tied Shore to Shore! DK lost it! Whose next?


So that means True Blue is the 2nd best team in the country! Good for them!
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?


That's "B" bracket!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue tied Shore to Shore! DK lost it! Whose next?

True Blue and Joe Cat are a complete joke and an insult to Massapequa, and Adelphi's feeder program.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?


That's "B" bracket!


Mamas boys 3-0
Icon 1-2
Outlaws 2-1
Express white 0-3

Mamas boys coaches-have some class. When you are blowing a team out, have the kids pass the ball some more.
If it's a Tavel program, why the insult to massapequa? I can't imagine all the kids there on on just that team.
What were the scores in the A bracket? Other teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?


That's "B" bracket!


Mamas boys 3-0
Icon 1-2
Outlaws 2-1
Express white 0-3

Mamas boys coaches-have some class. When you are blowing a team out, have the kids pass the ball some more.


That's their way. Get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others.
How did the A bracket shake out?
Great concept for a travel team... ruined by brutish coaching... have never heard a good thing about them from anyone outside of their team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the A bracket shake out?


Anyone know any scores?
Crickets. Interesting. Guess there was only 1 game in the A bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?


That's "B" bracket!


Mamas boys 3-0
Icon 1-2
Outlaws 2-1
Express white 0-3

Mamas boys coaches-have some class. When you are blowing a team out, have the kids pass the ball some more.


That's their way. Get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others.


Who did they do this to?
What was the best team in the "A" bracket?
Express white which happens to be there 3rd team.
Guess TB and STS didn't have any actual "W"s or they would have posted scores already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If it's a Tavel program, why the insult to massapequa? I can't imagine all the kids there on on just that team.


Most of them are from Massapequa ....
I would think they would be pretty Good. The town team is pretty good. Although not sure why they don't try any a brackets. Always in b.

I can't speak to the coach's reputation though. Don't know him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express white which happens to be there 3rd team.


Other games were well played by both sides. Good time for all the kids.
How did True Blue do yesterday?
here we go, one weekend in and let the hate begin..Unreal...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did True Blue do yesterday?


1-1-1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did True Blue do yesterday?


1-1-1

Thanks. I was just wondering about the magic JC said he was going to do for the chosen few. Should have kept the old kids.
For the record, Mamas Boyz has played in A brackets this season as well, so they do not go into B brackets and just pummel teams.
As for the coaches, they are wonderful coaches, who actually play every kid on the team, and also play 2 goalies. To blame a good group of kids and coaching for another team getting blown out is comical. Practice more or don't play in tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any info on how the teams in the Bible bracket did yesterday?


That's "B" bracket!


Mamas boys 3-0
Icon 1-2
Outlaws 2-1
Express white 0-3

Mamas boys coaches-have some class. When you are blowing a team out, have the kids pass the ball some more.


That's their way. Get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others.


Who did they do this to?
[quote=Anonymous]For the record, Mamas Boyz has played in A brackets this season as well, so they do not go into B brackets and just pummel teams.
As for the coaches, they are wonderful coaches, who actually play every kid on the team, and also play 2 goalies. To blame a good group of kids and coaching for another team getting blown out is comical. Practice more or don't play in tourneys. [quote=Anonymous]

There is no need to run up the score on a team just because you can. Clearly, your son learns his sportsmanship from you. The coach needs to control the game and teach the players to win with dignity. If they are going to enter B divisions, they should have a plan in place for situations that arise so that other players don't become discouraged. To say that it's the other team's fault for being a weaker team is disgraceful.
aside from the coaches asking the boys to literally not shoot the ball the entire 2nd half (which does nothing for either team or the game), what would you like them to do? he sat his top players as much as he could, passed the ball around, ran some plays for time. I mean really guy.
We got mopped up at Blatant in an A bracket and we didn't blame anyone. We brushed it off and moved on. I suggest you do the same.
After seeing the teams last weekend, Channy, Outlaws, Tru-Blue and S2S, I would say that any of those teams could beat each other on any given day. None of them were substantially better or worse than the other. It should make for some good, competitive lax this summer!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
aside from the coaches asking the boys to literally not shoot the ball the entire 2nd half (which does nothing for either team or the game), what would you like them to do? he sat his top players as much as he could, passed the ball around, ran some plays for time. I mean really guy.
We got mopped up at Blatant in an A bracket and we didn't blame anyone. We brushed it off and moved on. I suggest you do the same.


So going back to the quote from before "That's their way. They get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others." You just backed that statement 100%. You're proving that they don't teach sportsmanship.
you must be the express father that was SCREAMING at the kids on the field, made his own kid cry and yell back. What is that teaching?
do me a favor and look up the team, what they stand for and what they do for the community and what the organization stands for and what it teaches these boys. Enlighten yourself.
Bottom line is these coaches, parents, directors and boys and plenty of sportsmanship. To make a blanket statement like you did that this is how "we do things", based on 1 game, in 1 tourney where an express team was blown out is classless. We are playing this weekend in the A division if it makes you feel better. Have a great day and a great season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
aside from the coaches asking the boys to literally not shoot the ball the entire 2nd half (which does nothing for either team or the game), what would you like them to do? he sat his top players as much as he could, passed the ball around, ran some plays for time. I mean really guy.
We got mopped up at Blatant in an A bracket and we didn't blame anyone. We brushed it off and moved on. I suggest you do the same.


So going back to the quote from before "That's their way. They get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others." You just backed that statement 100%. You're proving that they don't teach sportsmanship.
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division
Originally Posted by Anonymous
do me a favor and look up the team, what they stand for and what they do for the community and what the organization stands for and what it teaches these boys. Enlighten yourself.
Bottom line is these coaches, parents, directors and boys and plenty of sportsmanship. To make a blanket statement like you did that this is how "we do things", based on 1 game, in 1 tourney where an express team was blown out is classless. We are playing this weekend in the A division if it makes you feel better. Have a great day and a great season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
aside from the coaches asking the boys to literally not shoot the ball the entire 2nd half (which does nothing for either team or the game), what would you like them to do? he sat his top players as much as he could, passed the ball around, ran some plays for time. I mean really guy.
We got mopped up at Blatant in an A bracket and we didn't blame anyone. We brushed it off and moved on. I suggest you do the same.


So going back to the quote from before "That's their way. They get blown out by good teams so they keep their foot on the gas when they can beat others." You just backed that statement 100%. You're proving that they don't teach sportsmanship.


no one is blaming the kids. kids go out on the field and want to play. what the organization stands for is commendable. no one has said anything to the contrary. you have already indicted yourself with "we got blown out so we'll do it to you" statement. it would have been as easy as telling the boys don't go right to the goal after winning a faceoff, or maybe complete 3, 4, 5 passes before shooting. you did neither. terrible.

kudos to the work the kids do for a good cause. you bringing that into the conversation is just trying to distract from the issue that the coaches pissed on the values you try to instill.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
you must be the express father that was SCREAMING at the kids on the field, made his own kid cry and yell back. What is that teaching?


No, my younger son was playing the same day so I had some time to watch. My 5th grader played later in A. He doesn't cry.
where did I respond with " we got blown out so we will do it to too?". did I miss that?
my point of that statement was that every team at one point or another has gotten blown out during a game or tourney. It's the way it is sometimes. I referenced it because your statement that it's what "we do" was off base bc your comment was on ONE GAME in ONE TOURNEY. Don't generalize these kids, coaches and org bc you got blown out 1 game. God forbid Express get blown out by an up and coming team, OH no!
The express team is a joke and some of the parents were nuts! We blew them out, get over it. We don't pick the teams we play the tournament director does. Go cry somewhere else. For the record we beat all the teams we played, so were obviously a stronger team all around not just against Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
where did I respond with " we got blown out so we will do it to too?". did I miss that?
my point of that statement was that every team at one point or another has gotten blown out during a game or tourney. It's the way it is sometimes. I referenced it because your statement that it's what "we do" was off base bc your comment was on ONE GAME in ONE TOURNEY. Don't generalize these kids, coaches and org bc you got blown out 1 game. God forbid Express get blown out by an up and coming team, OH no!


Maybe that wasn't your statement above that specifically said it's ok to blow out a team since it happened to you. Can't tell who is who with the anonymous posts. And correct, every tourney there will be lopsided scores no doubt
. And frankly who cares if it's express, team xyz or team 123. Do you not realize these are kids? How do you think they felt getting it rubbed in? My son is on a team where there have been games they were on there way to blowing them out, and the coaches specifically tell them no fast breaks, or move the ball around, 4 passes, etc. That's my point. Easy enough to do but they chose not to. And I also wasn't the one that made the "what they do" comment.
Right, you moved on...right into a B bracket where the team could pummel everyone and pound their chests. How does Mamas Boyz learn anything from that? You get better playing better teams not beating a team 16 to 0.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division


My kid plays on Icon so I didn't see the game that you are all talking about. We played Express and won by 2 (maybe that makes us a weak team since we didn't blow them out) the Goalie on Express played an amazing game (probably the best at this grade level I have ever seen) We won because we out shot them by a lot and there offense was all over the place. Since there isn't a C bracket not sure where you think these kids should be placed. If they don't have enough skill to be in the B bracket then they shouldn't be in tournaments. Maybe Express should have balanced out the talent across the million yeams they have better. The blowout isn't necessary and I hope our coaches would discourage it, but it is always going to happen. On to the next tournament. This one is done.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division


My kid plays on Icon so I didn't see the game that you are all talking about. We played Express and won by 2 (maybe that makes us a weak team since we didn't blow them out) the Goalie on Express played an amazing game (probably the best at this grade level I have ever seen) We won because we out shot them by a lot and there offense was all over the place. Since there isn't a C bracket not sure where you think these kids should be placed. If they don't have enough skill to be in the B bracket then they shouldn't be in tournaments. Maybe Express should have balanced out the talent across the million yeams they have better. The blowout isn't necessary and I hope our coaches would discourage it, but it is always going to happen. On to the next tournament. This one is done.


This is not a slight against the players. They are 11 year old kids. This is about the parents and coaches. Most, if not all, Mamas Boyz play on other travel clubs. Many are on Empire Green, some former Bandits, Warriors, etc... They all play on competitive A clubs; therefore have no business playing in a B division. The parents are obnoxious and if the coaches had a clue then they would be able to get that team, with those players, playing competitively in A divisions. These posts shouldn't even be an issue but the coaches are just about winning and making themselves feel better. Get a grip. It's a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division


My kid plays on Icon so I didn't see the game that you are all talking about. We played Express and won by 2 (maybe that makes us a weak team since we didn't blow them out) the Goalie on Express played an amazing game (probably the best at this grade level I have ever seen) We won because we out shot them by a lot and there offense was all over the place. Since there isn't a C bracket not sure where you think these kids should be placed. If they don't have enough skill to be in the B bracket then they shouldn't be in tournaments. Maybe Express should have balanced out the talent across the million yeams they have better. The blowout isn't necessary and I hope our coaches would discourage it, but it is always going to happen. On to the next tournament. This one is done.


No way that goalie was a 5th grader
Knowing Express they pulled home from an older grade....typical cheaters. And they still lost!
Genius - the tourney places the teams. Mamas is an A team. If you have an issue with how teams are placed, take it up with the tourney directors. And Express lost all 3 games, not just to Mamas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right, you moved on...right into a B bracket where the team could pummel everyone and pound their chests. How does Mamas Boyz learn anything from that? You get better playing better teams not beating a team 16 to 0.
The point is there are ways a coach can not run up the score on less skilled teams. Not talking rocket science here. Mismatches will happen every tourney for the most part, can happen in any bracket. I guess this was a charity tourney so they may not have balanced the match ups.

At no point did mama's coaches care enough to take the foot off the gas.
Anyone have any thought of the Forsberg Tourney this weekend? Any good games predicted? The games look like they should be pretty competitive in both 5A and 5B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division


My kid plays on Icon so I didn't see the game that you are all talking about. We played Express and won by 2 (maybe that makes us a weak team since we didn't blow them out) the Goalie on Express played an amazing game (probably the best at this grade level I have ever seen) We won because we out shot them by a lot and there offense was all over the place. Since there isn't a C bracket not sure where you think these kids should be placed. If they don't have enough skill to be in the B bracket then they shouldn't be in tournaments. Maybe Express should have balanced out the talent across the million yeams they have better. The blowout isn't necessary and I hope our coaches would discourage it, but it is always going to happen. On to the next tournament. This one is done.


No way that goalie was a 5th grader
Knowing Express they pulled home from an older grade....typical cheaters. And they still lost!


So someone has a great game and it has to be something unscrupulous? Every team really has a kid that can go off on a good day. Score a bunch of goals, lock down d, make a bunch of saves, and it's cheating?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe the tournament should tweak the registration application to ask what bracket you are entering the team under. The registration form only asks for graduation year and clearly states that scheduling requests will not be honored. The tournament directors place teams and schedule games. We are the third team so should have been placed in the C division


My kid plays on Icon so I didn't see the game that you are all talking about. We played Express and won by 2 (maybe that makes us a weak team since we didn't blow them out) the Goalie on Express played an amazing game (probably the best at this grade level I have ever seen) We won because we out shot them by a lot and there offense was all over the place. Since there isn't a C bracket not sure where you think these kids should be placed. If they don't have enough skill to be in the B bracket then they shouldn't be in tournaments. Maybe Express should have balanced out the talent across the million yeams they have better. The blowout isn't necessary and I hope our coaches would discourage it, but it is always going to happen. On to the next tournament. This one is done.


No way that goalie was a 5th grader
Knowing Express they pulled home from an older grade....typical cheaters. And they still lost!


Why are you bitter about it and automatically assume that, which by the way you are wrong. Can't you just appreciate it for what it was, a good game?
Great tourney for E3. Controlled the ball for over 85% of the time in all of the games. Only gave up one goal in each game. Big step up from last year. They are on the brink of a top 5 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great tourney for E3. Controlled the ball for over 85% of the time in all of the games. Only gave up one goal in each game. Big step up from last year. They are on the brink of a top 5 team.


must have been grueling keeping your stopwatch going all day to keep track of time of possesion. let the kids performance speak for themselves, if and when they play the top teams. viper and this charity tourney probably aren't good measuring sticks.
Come on top 5. Express would beat them by 10+. The bandits by whatever they wanted to win by 15/20 + I would bet the Warriors would win by ten plays as well Stop putting unneeded pressure on them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great tourney for E3. Controlled the ball for over 85% of the time in all of the games. Only gave up one goal in each game. Big step up from last year. They are on the brink of a top 5 team.


Can you get rid of the mom on the sideline who has smoked one too many cigarettes and screams like a loon???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great tourney for E3. Controlled the ball for over 85% of the time in all of the games. Only gave up one goal in each game. Big step up from last year. They are on the brink of a top 5 team.


Can you get rid of the mom on the sideline who has smoked one too many cigarettes and screams like a loon???


E3 is top 5 now??? First Shore 2 Shore is the greatest team after playing in one tournament and now it's E3??? C'mon guys... You're new clubs. Just enjoy it and play some tourneys before you go yapping.
Word going around from their camp is that True Blue is top A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Word going around from their camp is that True Blue is top A team.


True Blue lost to the Outlaws, beat Express B by 2 and ties S2S. Far, far from the best team. I guess they need more than the 7 coaches they have on the sideline...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Word going around from their camp is that True Blue is top A team.


I watched game against S2S. S2S had the ball for 35 out of the 44 minutes. I have actually never seen a team play for a tie before - you would have thought they won the NCAA Championship the way they celebrated the tie!
True Blue beat Outlaws - lost to Express ' B ' & tied Shore to Shore . They have never beaten an ' A ' team . Take it easy - they have improved but not there yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Word going around from their camp is that True Blue is top A team.


True Blue lost to the Outlaws, beat Express B by 2 and ties S2S. Far, far from the best team. I guess they need more than the 7 coaches they have on the sideline...

LOL... Joecat is a joke
Keep the hate alive...its awesome..back in your shallow hole now.
Stir the pot up more...Who cares what they do..They played a couple decent games that was all. All the anger from former parents that realize TB has had good kids play there..As long as your happy where you are, why bother hammering TB or JC...save the poison for your own pool..Im sure you will find something to be angry about with MC soon enough..
Sounds like an Express parent or Igloo who came to watch..Angry birds
I see some 2023 sand bags at LF
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Stir the pot up more...Who cares what they do..They played a couple decent games that was all. All the anger from former parents that realize TB has had good kids play there..As long as your happy where you are, why bother hammering TB or JC...save the poison for your own pool..Im sure you will find something to be angry about with MC soon enough..

No pot stirring here. Just can't wait to see how the new and improved True Blue A team keeps getting hammered in tourney's. Great strategy CR and JC came up with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue beat Outlaws - lost to Express ' B ' & tied Shore to Shore . They have never beaten an ' A ' team . Take it easy - they have improved but not there yet.


They lost to outlaws

Any given Sunday.
TB beat express. But TB lost to Outlaws. But Express beat Outlaws. What does it mean? Teams are close enough in skill that anyone can win. Parity isn't a bad thing. Long Island has lots of good youth lacrosse players. Shocker. Some 5th graders are better/bigger/faster now. But that doesn't mean they will stay that way. Some days they play great. Some days they stink. Inconsistency is part of being a 5th grader. And that's why there's no definite list of who's better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any given Sunday.
TB beat express. But TB lost to Outlaws. But Express beat Outlaws. What does it mean? Teams are close enough in skill that anyone can win. Parity isn't a bad thing. Long Island has lots of good youth lacrosse players. Shocker. Some 5th graders are better/bigger/faster now. But that doesn't mean they will stay that way. Some days they play great. Some days they stink. Inconsistency is part of being a 5th grader. And that's why there's no definite list of who's better.



Outlaws destroyed express previous two games by double digits this year. Yes, any giving Sunday, but express just got there 1/10 games win.
How big of a difference is there between the 2 empire teams, 2 outlaws teams, 3 express teams, 2 true blue teams. Would you say the first teams are about the same, and then the next group is about the same?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How big of a difference is there between the 2 empire teams, 2 outlaws teams, 3 express teams, 2 true blue teams. Would you say the first teams are about the same, and then the next group is about the same?


Last summer from what I saw with my kid's team, HUGE difference between the two Empire teams. Better one is Green I think. Other one was white.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How big of a difference is there between the 2 empire teams, 2 outlaws teams, 3 express teams, 2 true blue teams. Would you say the first teams are about the same, and then the next group is about the same?


Last summer from what I saw with my kid's team, HUGE difference between the two Empire teams. Better one is Green I think. Other one was white.



Correct

And Green made improvements so not sure why they are listed B at LF
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How big of a difference is there between the 2 empire teams, 2 outlaws teams, 3 express teams, 2 true blue teams. Would you say the first teams are about the same, and then the next group is about the same?


Last summer from what I saw with my kid's team, HUGE difference between the two Empire teams. Better one is Green I think. Other one was white.



Correct

And Green made improvements so not sure why they are listed B at LF


well because that is where your coach placed you
How is the recon team or the recon program?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is the recon team or the recon program?


We played them last week. It was a good game play wise even if they did beat us. The defense shut us down time and again. No smack talk on the field or at the end of the game according to my son.
Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S
Good day yesterday. Outlaws Select is the top team. Empire good team. True Blue and Long Beach should have been in the B division. Not sure why they think they are A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S



You nailed that prediction right. Bandits are a great team. They make no mistakes. Badgers have really fallen off big time. They didn't even come close to competing with the Bandits. Years past that game would be exciting to watch but not anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S



You nailed that prediction right. Bandits are a great team. They make no mistakes. Badgers have really fallen off big time. They didn't even come close to competing with the Bandits. Years past that game would be exciting to watch but not anymore.


Actually hasn't been close in a while, maybe ever. I saw Bandits beat them by 15 a year ago. The year before it was by 9.
Actual 2023 NLF Results:

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
5th - S2S
6th - Eclipse
7th - Primetime
8th - Leading Edge
9th - Big 4 HHH

Never saw Bandits play, Laxachusetts big well coached, Bethesda good, Badgers on way down - they better hope that face-off guy never gets hurt...
Did Outlaws beat True Blue?
Laxachusetts playing with 2-year holdbacks; 13 yrs old versus 11
Laxachussetts is big because they have 2-year holdbacks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S



You nailed that prediction right. Bandits are a great team. They make no mistakes. Badgers have really fallen off big time. They didn't even come close to competing with the Bandits. Years past that game would be exciting to watch but not anymore.


Actually hasn't been close in a while, maybe ever. I saw Bandits beat them by 15 a year ago. The year before it was by 9.


Bandits never beat Badgers by 15 goals. Never. The biggest
Margin was 12-1 on Sunday. Previous years it went as high as the most 6/7 and as close as 2.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Outlaws beat True Blue?


Who cares.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S



You nailed that prediction right. Bandits are a great team. They make no mistakes. Badgers have really fallen off big time. They didn't even come close to competing with the Bandits. Years past that game would be exciting to watch but not anymore.


Actually hasn't been close in a while, maybe ever. I saw Bandits beat them by 15 a year ago. The year before it was by 9.


Bandits never beat Badgers by 15 goals. Never. The biggest
Margin was 12-1 on Sunday. Previous years it went as high as the most 6/7 and as close as 2.



12 or 15 , same thing.
nope,they tied with True Blue
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Did Outlaws beat True Blue?

Yes. True Blue played in the wrong division.
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Should be a good day out at NLF. Bandits are beating teams by 10-15 plus goals a game, Badgers look horrible and lost, S2S should have stayed home, Laxachusettes is huge and good and Bethesda is average.

1st - Bandits
2nd - Laxachusettes
3rd - Bethesda
4th - Badgers
10th - S2S



You nailed that prediction right. Bandits are a great team. They make no mistakes. Badgers have really fallen off big time. They didn't even come close to competing with the Bandits. Years past that game would be exciting to watch but not anymore.


Actually hasn't been close in a while, maybe ever. I saw Bandits beat them by 15 a year ago. The year before it was by 9.


Bandits never beat Badgers by 15 goals. Never. The biggest
Margin was 12-1 on Sunday. Previous years it went as high as the most 6/7 and as close as 2.


That just ain't true. That gap has been like the Grand Canyon for years. And it's still getting wider.
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..
Badsgers have hold backs as well..Stop the nonsense..You got beat..move on..
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Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.
Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.
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Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.
BM!!! Bowel Movement? YES
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.


That is a thought provoking response. We appreciate answer.
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Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.

The only thing we're watching is the demolition of Express. You can thank MC for being so money hungry.
Is BM still coaching anywhere?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.

The only thing we're watching is the demolition of Express. You can thank MC for being so money hungry.


I thought that the HB's only lost 2 players from last year. Why such a drop off? Are the other kids catching up? Is it coaching? I realized that we are talking about 10-11-12 year olds, but it seems like they may have fallen off a cliff.
That was Empire A team and Outlaws barely beat them. Reffing was horrendous unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.


That is a thought provoking response. We appreciate answer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.

The only thing we're watching is the demolition of Express. You can thank MC for being so money hungry.


I thought that the HB's only lost 2 players from last year. Why such a drop off? Are the other kids catching up? Is it coaching? I realized that we are talking about 10-11-12 year olds, but it seems like they may have fallen off a cliff.


They are still one of the best teams in the age group, don't let all of this talk fool you. They are the #2 team on LI behind the Bandits; unless Igloo brings their 2022's to play which seems to be about 50% of the time. As more kids start playing travel, which, in recent years, has been 4th grade, the other teams just got better. That's a good thing! Having 6-7 very competitive teams makes everyone on them better. And those rosters will all change in the next few years. Losing or gaining 1-2 kids every year can make a huge difference in a team.
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That was Empire A team and Outlaws barely beat them. Reffing was horrendous unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.


But you lost twice against them. Refereeing was fine or Reffing as you called it. Don't tell me next is there were no balls on sidelines. Then the sun was your goalies eyes. Outlaws played with older kids. The field was going down hill. They played with illegal pockets. The ball had a electronic chip that was controlled by parents.

That is a thought provoking response. We appreciate answer.
Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?
I'm not even going to address your moronic response.
My point was, it's a shame the game is not decided by the talented kids on the field, but rather the referees making lopsided calls or better yet, a coach calling the penalty out to the referee.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was Empire A team and Outlaws barely beat them. Reffing was horrendous unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.


But you lost twice against them. Refereeing was fine or Reffing as you called it. Don't tell me next is there were no balls on sidelines. Then the sun was your goalies eyes. Outlaws played with older kids. The field was going down hill. They played with illegal pockets. The ball had a electronic chip that was controlled by parents.

That is a thought provoking response. We appreciate answer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not even going to address your moronic response.
My point was, it's a shame the game is not decided by the talented kids on the field, but rather the referees making lopsided calls or better yet, a coach calling the penalty out to the referee.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That was Empire A team and Outlaws barely beat them. Reffing was horrendous unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Heard they played this weekend and they tied Outlaws..Was that their B team? They lost by one to Empire..was that their B team as well? Not a bad start for a decent B team..

We beat Empire twice that day. Outlaws We are a top team with new head coach who will make a big difference.


That's a lot of "we"... What position do you play?? Scrub.


But you lost twice against them. Refereeing was fine or Reffing as you called it. Don't tell me next is there were no balls on sidelines. Then the sun was your goalies eyes. Outlaws played with older kids. The field was going down hill. They played with illegal pockets. The ball had a electronic chip that was controlled by parents.

That is a thought provoking response. We appreciate answer.
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Oh, so that's why the Outlaws beat them twice. It's because the refs and now the coach called out one penalty. Sorry that was not added to the list of excuses, that's a new one. It has to be something, right? It's not possible that empire losses a game yet two. my answer may be moronic but you played into it with not one but two excuses. What coach does not tell when a penalty happens. The game was 40 minutes, just score more goals next time and stop blaming everyone else for your losses. Talent scores goals and wins the game.
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Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?


Yeah
Schedule may change still, but that is not where they belong
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?


Yeah
Schedule may change still, but that is not where they belong


There are better refs in the B bracket. You can score more goals.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?


Yeah
Schedule may change still, but that is not where they belong


There are better refs in the B bracket. You can score more goals.


Hmmm. Is that a reference to the number of Mamas Boys that play on Empire??? There are a lot of similarities, that's for sure!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?


Yeah
Schedule may change still, but that is not where they belong


There are better refs in the B bracket. You can score more goals.


Hmmm. Is that a reference to the number of Mamas Boys that play on Empire??? There are a lot of similarities, that's for sure!


Clearly Empire and Mamas Boys have peaked your interest...keep watching. hmmm.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green playing in B bracket this weekend?


Yeah
Schedule may change still, but that is not where they belong

Yes, you and True Blue can stay in B and play each other.
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Clearly Empire and Mamas Boys have peaked your interest...keep watching. hmmm.


Sorry for the confusion. Not really interested in either. Those are just the teams people are always complaining about. Sore winners AND sore losers. That's not a combo you see every day.
Hold on a second. There are electronic chips in the ball controlled by parents?
Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.
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Clearly Empire and Mamas Boys have peaked your interest...keep watching. hmmm.


Sorry for the confusion. Not really interested in either. Those are just the teams people are always complaining about. Sore winners AND sore losers. That's not a combo you see every day.


Mama's Boyz have some yummy mommies. Dirty Girlz
Says the hopeful igloo dad
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Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.


16-2 Bandits
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Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.


That's only because HBs and s2s won't be there...
Oh you mean the HB's who lost 3 games on Sunday and got slammed by the Bandits! STS who lost to the HB's and couldn't beat True Blue! Bandits 30 Igloo 1!! If you don't get it by now then I will spell it out for you...it's the Bandits and then everyone else. Good luck figuring out #2,3,4 etc. it seems like everyone else is in one big pack this year. Maybe by the end of the season it will be clearer
You guys realize that Igloo and Bandits are in the same bracket, right? Only one of them will make the final. Bandits will beat everyone there by 10+. S2S has proven that they are nothing over the last two weeks. Please stop that nonsense.
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You guys realize that Igloo and Bandits are in the same bracket, right? Only one of them will make the final. Bandits will beat everyone there by 10+. S2S has proven that they are nothing over the last two weeks. Please stop that nonsense.


I know You are stupid, they crossover in the brackets
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Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.

The only thing we're watching is the demolition of Express. You can thank MC for being so money hungry.


I thought that the HB's only lost 2 players from last year. Why such a drop off? Are the other kids catching up? Is it coaching? I realized that we are talking about 10-11-12 year olds, but it seems like they may have fallen off a cliff.


Kids are most definitely getting better and as a result most teams should keep pace or get better. Never will one or two additional "better" kids drive drastic improvement on a team that already is considered a top team. Badgers basically have the same kids as last year; the difference clearly is the coaching changes. Watching the Bandit game; the Badgers looked like a C team at best. If you think they are bad now, wait until MC steps in because parents are not happy and seriously destroys the team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of changes coming to that Badger team. Just watch. Will be significant turnover in roster. And need BM intensity.

The only thing we're watching is the demolition of Express. You can thank MC for being so money hungry.


I thought that the HB's only lost 2 players from last year. Why such a drop off? Are the other kids catching up? Is it coaching? I realized that we are talking about 10-11-12 year olds, but it seems like they may have fallen off a cliff.


They are a very far #2 and only because they beat igloo, STS and Warriors. They only beat them by a 2/3 goals which really sats, anyone of those teams can claim the 2 spot after beating another. Being #2 on long island means jack $&@& at this age, alot of good clubs from other states. Bandits can claim #1 in country at this grade. Badgers can't claim anything but slowly going backward.

They are still one of the best teams in the age group, don't let all of this talk fool you. They are the #2 team on LI behind the Bandits; unless Igloo brings their 2022's to play which seems to be about 50% of the time. As more kids start playing travel, which, in recent years, has been 4th grade, the other teams just got better. That's a good thing! Having 6-7 very competitive teams makes everyone on them better. And those rosters will all change in the next few years. Losing or gaining 1-2 kids every year can make a huge difference in a team.
Igloo doesn't have the coaching at this age group. The club got rid of two great coach and brought in two new ones along with new players, and it hasn't worked. The kids are unhappy and the team will break up again.
So igloo finishes 2nd in pool 1-- next day they play 1st place in opposite bracket
While 9 D Won finishes 1st-- they play 2nd place on opposite side
Winners advance
Igloo v Bamdits
And we all realize you are a complete Idiot
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You guys realize that Igloo and Bandits are in the same bracket, right? Only one of them will make the final. Bandits will beat everyone there by 10+. S2S has proven that they are nothing over the last two weeks. Please stop that nonsense.


Maybe S2S should have held an appropriate tryout and not hand picked the team. Many of those kids have big egos and think they are gods gift. They may want to go back to the basics and try running for ball, catching, throwing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is BM still coaching anywhere?


I don't think anywhere. I saw him on the parent sideline during Bandit vs Badger game this past weekend. His head shaken side to side in disbelief as he watched the team he built get crushed by our team. Lol
Maybe BM can move to Iglloo and build that team.
AJH held onto kids longer than he should have. Everyone knows that. There will be big roster turnover at the HBs. Parents are seeing that being great in 3rd grade means nothing now. Good luck with tryouts but don't worry so much about your kid dropping off. Good news is lots of decent competitive teams so everyone will have a place to spend lots of $$.
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AJH held onto kids longer than he should have. Everyone knows that. There will be big roster turnover at the HBs. Parents are seeing that being great in 3rd grade means nothing now. Good luck with tryouts but don't worry so much about your kid dropping off. Good news is lots of decent competitive teams so everyone will have a place to spend lots of $$.

Will they have 4 teams next year?
after last weekend S2S should just pack it in and just play town ball.
Igloo has never brought 2022 to a 2023 grade based tournament. I'm the team manager and they don't have any players on this team who are in 6th grade currently. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Never brought a 2022 to a 2023 game. Unless you count every single game last year in which the starting attackman on the 2023 was a 2022. Forgive us if we don't believe a word you say when it comes to cheating with older players. You have no integrity and no credibility.
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Igloo has never brought 2022 to a 2023 grade based tournament. I'm the team manager and they don't have any players on this team who are in 6th grade currently. Sorry to burst your bubble.


That's a lie. Two kids consistently last year. 2-3 kids this year.
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Igloo has never brought 2022 to a 2023 grade based tournament. I'm the team manager and they don't have any players on this team who are in 6th grade currently. Sorry to burst your bubble.


Enjoy this year, because Bandits will take the 3 best kids next year.
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Never brought a 2022 to a 2023 game. Unless you count every single game last year in which the starting attackman on the 2023 was a 2022. Forgive us if we don't believe a word you say when it comes to cheating with older players. You have no integrity and no credibility.


Everyone knows this. Zero respect for the organization, even from within. That's why you see so many Igloo helmets at tryouts.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Never brought a 2022 to a 2023 game. Unless you count every single game last year in which the starting attackman on the 2023 was a 2022. Forgive us if we don't believe a word you say when it comes to cheating with older players. You have no integrity and no credibility.


Everyone knows this. Zero respect for the organization, even from within. That's why you see so many Igloo helmets at tryouts.

"If there is zero respect from within why is there so many helmets at tryout?" I don't get what you are stating.
Rediculous statement most likely coming from a parent who's son either was cut or decided to move to STS....The coaching is the best I have come across in either PAL or travel. Take your jealousy and anger and channel it into practicing with your son...
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Never brought a 2022 to a 2023 game. Unless you count every single game last year in which the starting attackman on the 2023 was a 2022. Forgive us if we don't believe a word you say when it comes to cheating with older players. You have no integrity and no credibility.


Everyone knows this. Zero respect for the organization, even from within. That's why you see so many Igloo helmets at other team's tryouts.


"If there is zero respect from within why is there so many helmets at tryout?" I don't get what you are stating.
You can look at the list of rosters submitted for each game and see the names and numbers of the kids who played .... oh wait, lacrosse doesn't ever do this. Never mind.
Nice try trying to shake up the igloo team but the team parents and players are very happy with the organization and the coaching. The Bashers are parents of kids on the sinking ships hoping some spots will open up on igloo next year. The bail out buckets are already out and all the unhappy parents are already talking about fall tryouts!
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Rediculous statement most likely coming from a parent who's son either was cut or decided to move to STS....The coaching is the best I have come across in either PAL or travel. Take your jealousy and anger and channel it into practicing with your son...


Wow, Igloo coaching is better than PAL. Let me write my $4000 check now!

The Igloo program has been shrouded in conflict and deception across most of its age group, 2023 notwithstanding, for years. They rarely have continuity year to year because so many players jump ship for more reputable programs. This team will be no different. The earlier post was likely referring to the amount of Igloo players trying out for other 2023 teams. My son tried out for three different teams and I can personally confirm that statement. There were more Igloo players at tryouts than any other club. That is a telling sign of a club.
You sir are an idiot.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rediculous statement most likely coming from a parent who's son either was cut or decided to move to STS....The coaching is the best I have come across in either PAL or travel. Take your jealousy and anger and channel it into practicing with your son...


Wow, Igloo coaching is better than PAL. Let me write my $4000 check now!

The Igloo program has been shrouded in conflict and deception across most of its age group, 2023 notwithstanding, for years. They rarely have continuity year to year because so many players jump ship for more reputable programs. This team will be no different. The earlier post was likely referring to the amount of Igloo players trying out for other 2023 teams. My son tried out for three different teams and I can personally confirm that statement. There were more Igloo players at tryouts than any other club. That is a telling sign of a club.
Bandits have taken 3 new kids in the past three years. Doubt they'll take three igloo kids. Besides they don't look like they need much help.

And how did it work out for your son this year? Is he one of the 40 players on the Express roster?
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Bandits have taken 3 new kids in the past three years. Doubt they'll take three igloo kids. Besides they don't look like they need much help.


They were the best team in the country by a very wide margin last year and they still took 3 new kids this year. Goalie, middie and defender. Always improving. However, I don't think Igloo has 3 kids that are better than any of the Bandits so you're right on that point.
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Bandits have taken 3 new kids in the past three years. Doubt they'll take three igloo kids. Besides they don't look like they need much help.


That's laughable! They take 3 new kids every year!
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Nice try trying to shake up the igloo team but the team parents and players are very happy with the organization and the coaching. The Bashers are parents of kids on the sinking ships hoping some spots will open up on igloo next year. The bail out buckets are already out and all the unhappy parents are already talking about fall tryouts!

Really??? I guess you sir (team mom, or coach) are clueless. Now are you telling the public not to come to tryouts and spend $100 for AA because the team is set and AA doesn't need the money? If that's the case... maybe you should leave the club!
I am glad everyone is fighting over 2 nd best team on LI. That equates to first loser!!! Get over it. Until someone beats the Bandits or they lose a few kids with the age restriction next year, it doesn't matter. A lot of teams are getting better every year and their day will come but until then it's indisputable. Can't wait to meet Buster Douglas!!!
Great choice by Honeybadgers to stick together and not split up last year!!! It really paid off, 3 losses on 1 day??? BM never would have accepted that!! Now you are back in the pack with everyone else. Wait here comes the next coach!!!
Wow! Your son tried out for 3 different teams. That is a very telling sign ....Either he needs some work or you are just one of those parents that are miserable wherever they go...Once again, get outside and practice with your kid....it might help with his play and your anger issues... Igloo 2023 is fine.... no drama, or deceit as you put it. In fact, we will all be laughing at this post at our team barbecue tomorrow night....In the future don't be so concerned with an organization that you are not a part of . Also , just to correct you $3000 all in...Try to relax and enjoy your summer! Sounds like you will have a lot of tryouts to attend
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Wow! Your son tried out for 3 different teams. That is a very telling sign ....Either he needs some work or you are just one of those parents that are miserable wherever they go...Once again, get outside and practice with your kid....it might help with his play and your anger issues... Igloo 2023 is fine.... no drama, or deceit as you put it. In fact, we will all be laughing at this post at our team barbecue tomorrow night....In the future don't be so concerned with an organization that you are not a part of . Also , just to correct you $3000 all in...Try to relax and enjoy your summer! Sounds like you will have a lot of tryouts to attend

$3,000 all in. Wow, I think I am going into the mortgage business and hit up every parent to refinance so they can pay for their team fee. Does the bar b que come with a donation request?
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Is BM still coaching anywhere?


I don't think anywhere. I saw him on the parent sideline during Bandit vs Badger game this past weekend. His head shaken side to side in disbelief as he watched the team he built get crushed by our team. Lol


I thought he was banned from the sideline for starting a fight with another badger parent?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is BM still coaching anywhere?


I don't think anywhere. I saw him on the parent sideline during Bandit vs Badger game this past weekend. His head shaken side to side in disbelief as he watched the team he built get crushed by our team. Lol


I thought he was banned from the sideline for starting a fight with another badger parent?

oh stop you disgruntled Igloo penguin.
what are the top 10 2023 A and B teams?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is BM still coaching anywhere?


I don't think anywhere. I saw him on the parent sideline during Bandit vs Badger game this past weekend. His head shaken side to side in disbelief as he watched the team he built get crushed by our team. Lol


I thought he was banned from the sideline for starting a fight with another badger parent?


I know the guy he went after. To be honest; that guy needs a good beat down. Wisea$$ to say the least. I heard BM came close to doing it also.
Is BM going to start his own team? Coach somewhere else? Assume he'd get a following of talented kids, including HBs who see how soft they've become. Will this be the next S2S?
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AJH held onto kids longer than he should have. Everyone knows that. There will be big roster turnover at the HBs. Parents are seeing that being great in 3rd grade means nothing now. Good luck with tryouts but don't worry so much about your kid dropping off. Good news is lots of decent competitive teams so everyone will have a place to spend lots of $$.


Funny part is; the Badgers are loaded with very good athletes. So it's not about finding new kids. Maybe they just haven't gelled yet.
All healthy dialogue. Bandits are a great team with great players and a great coach. I am not sure why anyone feels they need to put the bandits, Igloo S2S or even Express (no longer referred to as HB for good reason) down. For argument sake, Bandits are clearly the best. Why can't there be three or 4 other really good teams on Long Island.

As for Express 2023 (again, no reference to HB), the team is far better off w/o BM. You have mistaken intensity on the sideline with screaming and literally scaring the crap out of most of the kids. So much that many of them did not reach there potential for fear of making a mistake while playing for BM.

The team is far better of with AJ at the helm... the kids are learning how to truly play the game of lacrosse. Results will come but, more important, these kids will become great players / ambassadors of the game for life. Wins / Losses happen in everything but respect for the kids, parents and the coaches is the most important thing. It seems the parents from Bandits, Igloo, S2S and, yes, Express Haugen have that.

Nobody on the Express 2023 team really wants BM back.... feel free to ask most of the parents next time you bump into one of them at a tournament.
I loved when BM would hit up guest player kids parents for cash in the parking lot to play with his team, especially at St Anthony's parking lot!! Holy crap.
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All healthy dialogue. Bandits are a great team with great players and a great coach. I am not sure why anyone feels they need to put the bandits, Igloo S2S or even Express (no longer referred to as HB for good reason) down. For argument sake, Bandits are clearly the best. Why can't there be three or 4 other really good teams on Long Island.

As for Express 2023 (again, no reference to HB), the team is far better off w/o BM. You have mistaken intensity on the sideline with screaming and literally scaring the crap out of most of the kids. So much that many of them did not reach there potential for fear of making a mistake while playing for BM.

The team is far better of with AJ at the helm... the kids are learning how to truly play the game of lacrosse. Results will come but, more important, these kids will become great players / ambassadors of the game for life. Wins / Losses happen in everything but respect for the kids, parents and the coaches is the most important thing. It seems the parents from Bandits, Igloo, S2S and, yes, Express Haugen have that.

Nobody on the Express 2023 team really wants BM back.... feel free to ask most of the parents next time you bump into one of them at a tournament.


Oh please cut the crap. Clearly one of the Express Directors attempting to calm the storm and keep players interested in their program. You guys a money grabbing pigs who could care less if the kids become ambassadors of the game. You guys are a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All healthy dialogue. Bandits are a great team with great players and a great coach. I am not sure why anyone feels they need to put the bandits, Igloo S2S or even Express (no longer referred to as HB for good reason) down. For argument sake, Bandits are clearly the best. Why can't there be three or 4 other really good teams on Long Island.

As for Express 2023 (again, no reference to HB), the team is far better off w/o BM. You have mistaken intensity on the sideline with screaming and literally scaring the crap out of most of the kids. So much that many of them did not reach there potential for fear of making a mistake while playing for BM.

The team is far better of with AJ at the helm... the kids are learning how to truly play the game of lacrosse. Results will come but, more important, these kids will become great players / ambassadors of the game for life. Wins / Losses happen in everything but respect for the kids, parents and the coaches is the most important thing. It seems the parents from Bandits, Igloo, S2S and, yes, Express Haugen have that.

Nobody on the Express 2023 team really wants BM back.... feel free to ask most of the parents next time you bump into one of them at a tournament.


Oh please cut the crap. Clearly one of the Express Directors attempting to calm the storm and keep players interested in their program. You guys a money grabbing pigs who could care less if the kids become ambassadors of the game. You guys are a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I loved when BM would hit up guest player kids parents for cash in the parking lot to play with his team, especially at St Anthony's parking lot!! Holy crap.


You are referring to MC. Parents would walk off the field and hand him cash that he literally put directly into his pocket. He actually told one parent to pay him cash for the tuition. Corruption at its best !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I loved when BM would hit up guest player kids parents for cash in the parking lot to play with his team, especially at St Anthony's parking lot!! Holy crap.


Channy taught him well
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All healthy dialogue. Bandits are a great team with great players and a great coach. I am not sure why anyone feels they need to put the bandits, Igloo S2S or even Express (no longer referred to as HB for good reason) down. For argument sake, Bandits are clearly the best. Why can't there be three or 4 other really good teams on Long Island.

As for Express 2023 (again, no reference to HB), the team is far better off w/o BM. You have mistaken intensity on the sideline with screaming and literally scaring the crap out of most of the kids. So much that many of them did not reach there potential for fear of making a mistake while playing for BM.

The team is far better of with AJ at the helm... the kids are learning how to truly play the game of lacrosse. Results will come but, more important, these kids will become great players / ambassadors of the game for life. Wins / Losses happen in everything but respect for the kids, parents and the coaches is the most important thing. It seems the parents from Bandits, Igloo, S2S and, yes, Express Haugen have that.

Nobody on the Express 2023 team really wants BM back.... feel free to ask most of the parents next time you bump into one of them at a tournament.



Well I guess learning how to play the game of Lacrosse includes losing games because with AJ at the helm; it seems that's all they know how to do. Lmao
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All healthy dialogue. Bandits are a great team with great players and a great coach. I am not sure why anyone feels they need to put the bandits, Igloo S2S or even Express (no longer referred to as HB for good reason) down. For argument sake, Bandits are clearly the best. Why can't there be three or 4 other really good teams on Long Island.

As for Express 2023 (again, no reference to HB), the team is far better off w/o BM. You have mistaken intensity on the sideline with screaming and literally scaring the crap out of most of the kids. So much that many of them did not reach there potential for fear of making a mistake while playing for BM.

The team is far better of with AJ at the helm... the kids are learning how to truly play the game of lacrosse. Results will come but, more important, these kids will become great players / ambassadors of the game for life. Wins / Losses happen in everything but respect for the kids, parents and the coaches is the most important thing. It seems the parents from Bandits, Igloo, S2S and, yes, Express Haugen have that.

Nobody on the Express 2023 team really wants BM back.... feel free to ask most of the parents next time you bump into one of them at a tournament.


Oh please cut the crap. Clearly one of the Express Directors attempting to calm the storm and keep players interested in their program. You guys a money grabbing pigs who could care less if the kids become ambassadors of the game. You guys are a joke.


Spot on, KW ( express owner) uses those words and phrases all the time. Suprised he actually trolls these boards.
Not a director... a parent. No crap to cut!!!!

Therefore, save the disparaging remarks about the different programs as I don't really care. In fact, we can probably all agree, they all charge too much.

Bottom line, as it relates to 2023 boys lacrosse, there are now several good teams on Long Island and we should enjoy this fact. Instead, you want to continue to make disparaging remarks and get off topic.

As for 2023 Express.... most of the dads on all the clubs probably coach or have coached PAL lacrosse and think they are pretty good at it. Even BM was a good PAL coach. That is where it ends. What AJ is providing these boys goes beyond the next lacrosse tournament. They are all really good players and he is only going to make them better for the long run. I hope the parents from S2S, Igloo, Legacy, Outlaws, Team 91 can all say the same about their coaches.
I SEE EDGE 2023 , CRABS 23 AND HHH 23 PLAYING IN THE BIG 4 THIS WEEKEND, CAN ANYONE SHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE TEAMS ASSUMING CRANS IS VERY GOOD?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I SEE EDGE 2023 , CRABS 23 AND HHH 23 PLAYING IN THE BIG 4 THIS WEEKEND, CAN ANYONE SHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE TEAMS ASSUMING CRANS IS VERY GOOD?


HHH came in 9th out of 9 teams in the NLF last weekend. They have some serious work to do...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I SEE EDGE 2023 , CRABS 23 AND HHH 23 PLAYING IN THE BIG 4 THIS WEEKEND, CAN ANYONE SHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE TEAMS ASSUMING CRANS IS VERY GOOD?


HHH came in 9th out of 9 teams in the NLF last weekend. They have some serious work to do...


And crabs avoided NLF altogether
What are the thoughts for 2023 Recon team or the Recon program.
they added 24's to the 23 bracket , assuming the 24;s will be demolished
LI HS Player of the Year 1996
2x High School All American
Bethpage HS State Champions 1996
All World Midfield, U-19 Team USA 1996
3x NCAA 1st Team AA - Johns Hopkins
Member of Johns Hopkins All Time Team
5x MLL All Star L.I. Lizards
2x MLL Champion
Member of Team USA 2006
Long Island Lacrosse Hall of Fame - Class of 2013

VS
St. Johns lacrosse
Hills PAL Coach

Enough said

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI HS Player of the Year 1996
2x High School All American
Bethpage HS State Champions 1996
All World Midfield, U-19 Team USA 1996
3x NCAA 1st Team AA - Johns Hopkins
Member of Johns Hopkins All Time Team
5x MLL All Star L.I. Lizards
2x MLL Champion
Member of Team USA 2006
Long Island Lacrosse Hall of Fame - Class of 2013

VS
St. Johns lacrosse
Hills PAL Coach

Enough said


Is this Santa Claus?
Unintentionally funny. You list a ton of awards for AJH but not one of them relates to coaching. You list almost nothing for BM but list coaching experience. We all know being a stud player doesn't make you a good coach. Sometimes coaches have to be tough.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unintentionally funny. You list a ton of awards for AJH but not one of them relates to coaching. You list almost nothing for BM but list coaching experience. We all know being a stud player doesn't make you a good coach. Sometimes coaches have to be tough.


Totally agree. Alot of great players are horrible coaches. Two very different skillsets. Even MC Jr is a good example, horrible coach. AJ was a good compliment to BM and it obviously worked well but if you want a coach who will get the best out of a kids talent and have him be held accountable for making mistakes so he learns from them; BM is the one you want hands down. Not even close. The Badgers will be fine this year but it won't be because of AJ. That team was hand picked by BM.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI HS Player of the Year 1996
2x High School All American
Bethpage HS State Champions 1996
All World Midfield, U-19 Team USA 1996
3x NCAA 1st Team AA - Johns Hopkins
Member of Johns Hopkins All Time Team
5x MLL All Star L.I. Lizards
2x MLL Champion
Member of Team USA 2006
Long Island Lacrosse Hall of Fame - Class of 2013

VS
St. Johns lacrosse
Hills PAL Coach

Enough said



Tommy Lasorda and Don Mattingly both coached the LA Dodgers. One was a stud MLB player and one was a player in MLB for 1.5 years. Mattingly didn't win anything as dodger coach. Lasorda was a stud coach, two time World Series coach and 2x coach of the year. You analogy means nothing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI HS Player of the Year 1996
2x High School All American
Bethpage HS State Champions 1996
All World Midfield, U-19 Team USA 1996
3x NCAA 1st Team AA - Johns Hopkins
Member of Johns Hopkins All Time Team
5x MLL All Star L.I. Lizards
2x MLL Champion
Member of Team USA 2006
Long Island Lacrosse Hall of Fame - Class of 2013

VS
St. Johns lacrosse
Hills PAL Coach

Enough said


Funniest thing I've read so far. Must be one of those ungrateful Badgers Dads.

You say AJ is a stud coach because of those credetials and BM is nothing more than a PAL wanna be coach. Well if we look at what BM has done with that exact team last year and compare that to what AJ has done this year; here's what you will come up with:

Under BM, the team only lost to the Bandits and 2022 teams. The Bandit loses were by a margin of HALF of what the Badgers lost to them this past weekend. They may have lost a total of 6 games over the past SEVERAL years. They actually won a 2022 division championship at the Express Tournament. Very successful.

Under AJ, they lost 3 games in the Fall at the Legacy tournament, they lost to STS at Blatant and just this past weekend they lost 3 more games. They also just barely won an OT game in Maryland and came within 2 goals of losing to the Warriors.


Same team but different coaching styles but at least the kids will be ambassadors of the sport. LOL.

I myself wasn't a big fan of BM's sidelines antics but give credit where credit is due; he may just be a Hills PAL coach but he surely knows how to build winning teams and motivate kids to exceed their potential.

Enough Said !

It'll be very interesting to see if and where BM coaches next year. Kids get better under his coaching so expect parents to want their kids to tryout there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It'll be very interesting to see if and where BM coaches next year. Kids get better under his coaching so expect parents to want their kids to tryout there.

Maybe over to the Outlaws. They'll need him over there so he doesn't come to our team.
BM is actually writing to himself on this post and respondinger. The guy has some screws loose and there's always another side of the story....the truth.
This is the same BM that threw punches at a parent on THE SAME TEAM. Get that crap as far away as possible. Teach the kids the right way to play. The kids on AJs team now will become better lacrosse players and better young men.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What are the thoughts for 2023 Recon team or the Recon program.


Good program, they offer more than just lacrosse. They get the kids and families involved in community service opportunities. My son plays for one of the older teams and my younger son will be trying out next year for the 2023 group. I believe the 2023 is a 1st year team. I saw a little bit of their game at JDRF. They looked good.
Whats the word on Madlax Capitol? I see they are playing tomorrow and haven't seen them yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the word on Madlax Capitol? I see they are playing tomorrow and haven't seen them yet.



AAA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whats the word on Madlax Capitol? I see they are playing tomorrow and haven't seen them yet.



AAA

Are they Maryland?
Answer: it's 5th grade. Who cares!!
Anyone check to see if Farmingdale playing today?
Not cancelled?
all games called because it is too sunny.
Refs sukkkkkkk
Even more when you are playing a 91 team!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone check to see if Farmingdale playing today?
Not cancelled?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone check to see if Farmingdale playing today?
Not cancelled?

Actually youre momma checked and reported back. Sunny with a chance of hot Dilfs. check in once in a while she misses ya!
Wow...igloo took down the bandits for the ship
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.


16-2 Bandits


or 6-4 igloo
Is that 2023 A final from Lax Fest correct? Is that the Bandits' first 2023 loss ever?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
AJH held onto kids longer than he should have. Everyone knows that. There will be big roster turnover at the HBs. Parents are seeing that being great in 3rd grade means nothing now. Good luck with tryouts but don't worry so much about your kid dropping off. Good news is lots of decent competitive teams so everyone will have a place to spend lots of $$.


Funny part is; the Badgers are loaded with very good athletes. So it's not about finding new kids. Maybe they just haven't gelled yet.
Who won the championship at Lax Fest ?
Who won laxfest ?
Igloo won the 'ship.
shocked

CRICKETS!!!!! Hats off to Igloo for going in with a plan and executing it, and hats off to the kids as well for going into both of those games with the mind set of not being defeated before the game even started!
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.
That is pretty stunning news. Did igloo really play a close game and then beat the bandits? Not stirring the pot but wow.
Igloo -- played awesome
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo won the 'ship.


Great day! First, Badits killed everyone. Then Igloo plays them to a 3-2 loss, then Warriors play Igloo tight and were actually up with 2 minutes to go, but lose 9-7. Then Igloo shut down the Bandits. That a great day of lax!
I was there for 2022 game that followed and a an obvious bandit grandfather was claiming Igloo had all new players from yesterday. Igloo dad told him to stop crying. Comical. I guess if previous poster is correct that Bandits never lost than its Ok to cry grandpa
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


yawn. ducking
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.


16-2 Bandits


or 6-4 igloo
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo v Bandits in 2023 Final this weekend.


16-2 Bandits


Prophetic call on igloo/bandit final

16-2? Not so much


or 6-4 igloo
Weak tourney. Terrible level of competition. Express was VERY lucky to win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I was there for 2022 game that followed and a an obvious bandit grandfather was claiming Igloo had all new players from yesterday. Igloo dad told him to stop crying. Comical. I guess if previous poster is correct that Bandits never lost than its Ok to cry grandpa


I think I saw that grandpa - nice head of silver hair - during the semifinal vs GC when I was waiting for my sons game nearby. The quality of play of bandits is so high it's hard to imagine them losing. Would love to know how igloo did it. I don't get the complaint about igloo. Bandits should be able to beat any collection of 5th graders on the island. Unless the kids were older, so what if they were different. That's a valid complaint in the B division, not from the bandits. Wise bandit parents - or grandparents - should welcome the loss. It's not natural for kids to never lose. Igloo figured something out, and now they have something to counter. In any event, these kids will lose plenty in high school and college. They all do. One loss is no big deal.
GO WARRIORS!!!
According to all these threads.... Nobody knows who won or lost down in MD.
20 teams in the 2023 division at the tourney in MD. 2 teams from Long Island played in the championship and had a great game with a great deal of respect for one another. It was exactly what lacrosse should be at this age. Well done both teams for representing LI.

Wow! So Igloo is the new champ! It was a good run by the Bandits but now they are back in the pack with everyone else. I guess everyone is catching up. U
Warriors are no slouches either.
well coached
I think what we're starting to see is that the field is beginning to level out. There are a few teams (Bandits, Igloo, Honey Badgers, Warriors and Outlaws) that will all compete on any given day. Congrats to Igloo for a very good win. Looking forward to a great season!
Also representing Long Island, the sloppy drunk Express parent on Saturday. We should expect more from ourselves and not let this kind of thing happen in front of children. Be an example, not a problem.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


So why did you play in the B division?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


If they were going down to play some of the top Maryland teams that would be understandable. But that wasn't really the case. I understand that Annapolis is a beautiful place, and is a great spot for a family vacation, but this is lax season. If HB's want to be considered a great team, they need to play great teams. I think it's safe to say that they weren't challenged. Maybe they would like to be known as the family/no pressure/non-competitive team. That's a great angle and I think there is definitely a market for that. You guys just can't say that you're a top team though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


You played 18 different teams??? Wow. They must be tired.
IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks like the Empire 2023 Green team played very well this weekend. The organization should be proud that they put their "A" team in the B bracket. A very classy move...... Stand up and play the boys where they belong. Enjoy your t-shirts.
who are the badgers?
Badgers?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


So why did you play in the B division?


This is not correct. As per tourney machine there was only one 2023 bracket, and it was called "A". Where do you get that they played in the B division.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


So why did you play in the B division?


This is not correct. As per tourney machine there was only one 2023 bracket, and it was called "A". Where do you get that they played in the B division.


Because the top teams in Md play in AA not A. You played B teams.
Originally Posted by owenho
Badgers?


Express A (formerly known as the Honey Badgers)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.


You need to get over the fact that JS's team are now LOSERS.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.


You need to get over the fact that JS's team are now LOSERS.


Gonna be a fun summer!
How many parents already made the decision to pull their kids off of Empire Green after that embarrassment last weekend? Beating weaker teams by 10 does not make you look good OR help your terrible reputation. I heard a few players quit in the week leading up to the tournament. That club is doomed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.


You need to get over the fact that JS's team are now LOSERS.


Slow down. They lost as many games to 2023 team in their existence as Igloo did on Saturday. They're a different team when the coach is there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers went 6&0 and won the championship at the Hogan - Summer Exposure down in Maryland.


Who gives a [lacrosse]. They played Maryland "C" teams and almost lost to S2S in the final. Don't go pumping your chest. If you stayed home, you would have got killed by Igloo, Warriors and the Bandits.


Why any team would want to go to Maryland when so many good teams were playing on the Island is confusing.


good question. We thought it would be nice to see 18 different teams in our age group in another hot bed of lacrosse in the northeast. We also thought Annapolis was a great location to visit as most took tours of the Naval Academy and had dinner downtown.


If they were going down to play some of the top Maryland teams that would be understandable. But that wasn't really the case. I understand that Annapolis is a beautiful place, and is a great spot for a family vacation, but this is lax season. If HB's want to be considered a great team, they need to play great teams. I think it's safe to say that they weren't challenged. Maybe they would like to be known as the family/no pressure/non-competitive team. That's a great angle and I think there is definitely a market for that. You guys just can't say that you're a top team though.


Ok, I will entertain this response. When you register for a tournament and are told there are 15-20 teams in your age group you expect there to be an A and AA divisions as there were in most age brackets in the MD tourney.
When the tournament puts out schedule the week before and tells you they are only going to have one division..... guess what, you just deal with it and go play. Simple as that.

As a side note there is some positive comments on this thread today which is nice to see for a change. You however seem to be a very angry, disgruntled individual who should really take a moment and think about the fact that you are trying to disparage a team of 11 year-old kids.
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.


You need to get over the fact that JS's team are now LOSERS.


Slow down. They lost as many games to 2023 team in their existence as Igloo did on Saturday. They're a different team when the coach is there.

You can say that again! Different players as well!
[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

That's hysterical........Warriors a close #2 . They haven't beat any good teams, they have a hard time playing empire.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.


haha...Warriors
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

Where do they post the national rankings of 5th graders?
Empire Green should have been in the A division and were placed in B by tourney directors. NUMEROUS calls were made about the error and were told there were too many teams in A division - which translates to "Empire could potentially beat the Warriors, so we will keep you out of that bracket so that the 91 teams can own it"
as for kids quitting, there was 1 kid who quit. You seem to have been misinformed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many parents already made the decision to pull their kids off of Empire Green after that embarrassment last weekend? Beating weaker teams by 10 does not make you look good OR help your terrible reputation. I heard a few players quit in the week leading up to the tournament. That club is doomed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

That's hysterical........Warriors a close #2 . They haven't beat any good teams, they have a hard time playing empire

which is exactly why Empire Green was "mistakenly" placed in the B division. They would have given the Warriors a good run and we wouldn't want that to happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

That's hysterical........Warriors a close #2 . They haven't beat any good teams, they have a hard time playing empire.


No Warrior parent thinks they are #2. That's just silly. Our kids and parents are happy playing competitive lacrosse. Kids are getting better and making some good friends.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

That's hysterical........Warriors a close #2 . They haven't beat any good teams, they have a hard time playing empire

which is exactly why Empire Green was "mistakenly" placed in the B division. They would have given the Warriors a good run and we wouldn't want that to happen.



That was not written by a Warrior parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.

That's hysterical........Warriors a close #2 . They haven't beat any good teams, they have a hard time playing empire

which is exactly why Empire Green was "mistakenly" placed in the B division. They would have given the Warriors a good run and we wouldn't want that to happen.



Empire smile
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green should have been in the A division and were placed in B by tourney directors. NUMEROUS calls were made about the error and were told there were too many teams in A division - which translates to "Empire could potentially beat the Warriors, so we will keep you out of that bracket so that the 91 teams can own it"
as for kids quitting, there was 1 kid who quit. You seem to have been misinformed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many parents already made the decision to pull their kids off of Empire Green after that embarrassment last weekend? Beating weaker teams by 10 does not make you look good OR help your terrible reputation. I heard a few players quit in the week leading up to the tournament. That club is doomed.


Is that what they told you? Don't hide under excuses now. If you looked at Tourney Machine, there certainly seemed like there was an open spot. You might want to look that up and check. It's pretty obvious. Instead you guys would rather beat up on our team that was playing it's first summer season. Very classy.
The tournament, nyndeewon, and Empire are all owned by the same company. I don't get the conspiracy theories regarding bracket placement. Especially since there were enough A teams to permit Empire and Warriors to not play each other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournament, nyndeewon, and Empire are all owned by the same company. I don't get the conspiracy theories regarding bracket placement. Especially since there were enough A teams to permit Empire and Warriors to not play each other.


No conspiracies. Just excuses.
Hide under what? excuse? no need for either, I am stating facts.
Our boys get nothing out of "beating" up any team. They learn nothing and quite frankly it's not fun at all. It's not the way we play or what our coaches teach the boys. Like I said, we enter EVERY tourney as an A team, we have a B team and they enter B brackets. Where the tourney places us is out of our control. There was actually a team in the A bracket that dropped out and our directors called AGAIN to move us up to A and were told no. And yes that was per tourney machine, which I am quite familiar with, thanks thought.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green should have been in the A division and were placed in B by tourney directors. NUMEROUS calls were made about the error and were told there were too many teams in A division - which translates to "Empire could potentially beat the Warriors, so we will keep you out of that bracket so that the 91 teams can own it"
as for kids quitting, there was 1 kid who quit. You seem to have been misinformed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many parents already made the decision to pull their kids off of Empire Green after that embarrassment last weekend? Beating weaker teams by 10 does not make you look good OR help your terrible reputation. I heard a few players quit in the week leading up to the tournament. That club is doomed.


Is that what they told you? Don't hide under excuses now. If you looked at Tourney Machine, there certainly seemed like there was an open spot. You might want to look that up and check. It's pretty obvious. Instead you guys would rather beat up on our team that was playing it's first summer season. Very classy.
agreed. Which is why we are still stumped that they wouldn't move us to the correct bracket - the bracket we requested when registering.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournament, nyndeewon, and Empire are all owned by the same company. I don't get the conspiracy theories regarding bracket placement. Especially since there were enough A teams to permit Empire and Warriors to not play each other.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
agreed. Which is why we are still stumped that they wouldn't move us to the correct bracket - the bracket we requested when registering.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournament, nyndeewon, and Empire are all owned by the same company. I don't get the conspiracy theories regarding bracket placement. Especially since there were enough A teams to permit Empire and Warriors to not play each other.

Obviously your coach/ organization has a different perception of your team. Kings of the B division.
All I know is that the Bandits finally lost to an age appropriate team in their grade level. It's about time and I'm sure every 5th grader who has lost to them by 20 goals is going to be VERY happy to hear the news.
Get over your self.... If its your first summer season, get used to it. You will see a lot of teams misplaced. Crying on here wont change nothing!
LOL ok.
Man I love the haters on this page. It's actually comical.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
agreed. Which is why we are still stumped that they wouldn't move us to the correct bracket - the bracket we requested when registering.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tournament, nyndeewon, and Empire are all owned by the same company. I don't get the conspiracy theories regarding bracket placement. Especially since there were enough A teams to permit Empire and Warriors to not play each other.

Obviously your coach/ organization has a different perception of your team. Kings of the B division.
not crying at all. Responding to the genius who brought it up, blasting the team (11 year old boys mind you) as kids who like to play in a B division and beat up on other teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Get over your self.... If its your first summer season, get used to it. You will see a lot of teams misplaced. Crying on here wont change nothing!
Empire didn't request it Let me guess they beat you and your pissed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All I know is that the Bandits finally lost to an age appropriate team in their grade level. It's about time and I'm sure every 5th grader who has lost to them by 20 goals is going to be VERY happy to hear the news.


They could probably care less. It seems as if you are very excited though !!! Strange.
Guess we know which team brought their 6th graders to play! Assume Igloo had their 2022s play most of the game. Certainly wasn't a lot of subbing on that bench. Typical Igloo, adding the older kids.
Didn't see anyone on Empire beat up on anyone in the 6 games they played. I get it that some teams got frustrated at the end of some games, but it happens. Welcome to travel Lax, its not PAL!
First off......Lets clarify and tell it like it is. Yes a parent pulled their kid off of the team...because of the parent, not the kid. The kid is a good player but the parent was never satisfied. This is the same parent who quit last year and was let back on the by the coach.
As far as playing in the B bracket...Don't bash the kids for playing where they are told. We are a second year organization with talented kids that are a work in progress.....Yes being in A bracket would have been more competitive. Attempts were made without success. Move on!
Parents on empire weren't happy they were put in the B bracket. It was a waste of time for kids. Empire is a B team but not with those teams they played. It will come full circle cause when they play good teams they can't beat them. It's obvious the coaches were running up the scores. Not unexpected with those two guys though. That team will be split up after the season. Too many unhappy parents.Hopefully they play in A so we can see the outcomes. Only thing going for them is their D. Too many ball hogs at attack and zero team players!Some kids quit and more will follow. Parents unhappy with the coaching I've been told.
I heard Igloo parents were pissed. Some of their precious recruits never saw the field. If you want to win, you need to play the best kids...Hands Down!!!Be a good teammate, stop complaining and continue to work hard in practice and earn your time.
The Igloo organization, players, parents, and coaches have nothing but respect for the 91 organization and the Bandits. This is just one game in a very long development process for the boys.
This coming from the parent who left!.....Coaches didn't run up the score...they made the kids work the ball around multiple times before they were allowed to go to the net. There is a very good group of core kids on the team. It would be more embarrassing to play keep away.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Parents on empire weren't happy they were put in the B bracket. It was a waste of time for kids. Empire is a B team but not with those teams they played. It will come full circle cause when they play good teams they can't beat them. It's obvious the coaches were running up the scores. Not unexpected with those two guys though. That team will be split up after the season. Too many unhappy parents.Hopefully they play in A so we can see the outcomes. Only thing going for them is their D. Too many ball hogs at attack and zero team players!Some kids quit and more will follow. Parents unhappy with the coaching I've been told.


My kid was at this tourney in a B bracket other than the one that contained Empire Green. Based on the scores in the playoffs, Empire Green would have smoked the entire B division. It wasn't a function of the particular teams they faced. Forget labels. They are a cut above that group, which contained 17 teams from multiple states. They are not a B team as that term is used on LI. They should have been in the A bracket. My son also played them last year, and its funny this poster said they have too many ball hogs and don't play as a team, because that was my impression of them last year as well, even though they killed my son's team and had better players. It took them a while to get going because of the ball hogging, and they only won easily because our team wore down defending the ball hogging and then lost a bit of faith once the score got out of hand.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Igloo parents were pissed. Some of their precious recruits never saw the field. If you want to win, you need to play the best kids...Hands Down!!!Be a good teammate, stop complaining and continue to work hard in practice and earn your time.

was that the Manhasset recruits?
Just clarify. The Express were challenged in MD, they barely pulled out the win versus S2S. They won, but they were outplayed for the vast majority of the game. They also barely survived the semi final match.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just clarify. The Express were challenged in MD, they barely pulled out the win versus S2S. They won, but they were outplayed for the vast majority of the game. They also barely survived the semi final match.


Ouch!!!!! It's obvious the Badgers took a huge step back. Say what you want but they are missing the intensity of the previous coach.
You realize you people are all nuts. This is 5th grade lacrosse. None of you have one anything. None of you are the best. Let the kids play and enjoy themselves l. If your kid is unhappy with his team them change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]IGLOO BEAT THE BANDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! They barely beat the Warriors. I wish I saw that game. Was JS there? No?

At the end of the day Igloo beat the Warriors and beat the bandits in the championship. So they are the CHAMPS, the scores from the games are what they are good bad or indifferent, get over it 91 bandits and warriors lost.


You need to get over the fact that JS's team are now LOSERS.


Slow down. They lost as many games to 2023 team in their existence as Igloo did on Saturday. They're a different team when the coach is there.


Bandits are a different team when JS is there and the Badgers are a different team when BM was there. Says alot for the type/styleof coaching they have. Bottom line; They know how to win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Igloo parents were pissed. Some of their precious recruits never saw the field. If you want to win, you need to play the best kids...Hands Down!!!Be a good teammate, stop complaining and continue to work hard in practice and earn your time.

Must have been the South Shore parents
Did empire coaches know what division they were entering ?
Anyone playing this weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You realize you people are all nuts. This is 5th grade lacrosse. None of you have one anything. None of you are the best. Let the kids play and enjoy themselves l. If your kid is unhappy with his team them change.


Go away, loser.
You guys don't quite understand. The players on S2S can't really play attack but there defense is insane. They aren't a bad team
The reason they lost is because they didn't have Owen Duffy #42 and ALL the spallinas weren't there. Igloo isn't anywhere close to the Bandits caliber
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You realize you people are all nuts. This is 5th grade lacrosse. None of you have one anything. None of you are the best. Let the kids play and enjoy themselves l. If your kid is unhappy with his team them change.


How does posting on a message board equate to not letting the kids play? Please explain how this happens.
JS was there Saturday and Sunday.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The reason they lost is because they didn't have Owen Duffy #42 and ALL the spallinas weren't there. Igloo isn't anywhere close to the Bandits caliber


They were all there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You guys don't quite understand. The players on S2S can't really play attack but there defense is insane. They aren't a bad team


Clearly you know nothing about S2S. Don't sprout stupid things to stir the pot...
This whole recent thread is ridiculous. Empire didn't choose to be in the B division. They are a top 3 or 4 team in the age group. They are talented from goalie to attack. Enough of this trash talk.
Stop with the idiot and lying excuses - Igloo won fair and square.
Agreed S2S is a good competitive team as is Igloo , Express , Warriors , Empire Green & True Blue . Kids & coaches all working hard to field good Long Island lacrosse. Keep it positive.
Saw Js in Philly Sunday am
Coaches certainly have say which division the play Why play B?
Who is playing this weekend and where?
JS coached the Bandits in Finals vs Igloo. Very calm and composed entire game.. Igloo won GB battle, seemed equal on FO's, Igloo Goalie made some nice stops and clears. And refs didn't play a pivotal role.

Next tournament. Move on.
[quote=Anonymous]This whole recent thread is ridiculous. Empire didn't choose to be in the B division. They are a top 3 or 4 team in the age group. They are talented from goalie to attack. Enough of this trash talk.

I have to agree - top 3 or 4 in the "B" division- right where they played
Watched game igloo just out ground balled the Bandits. Thought the igloo goalie was incredible and igloo was very poised offensively. Bandits won majority of faceoffs and few resulted in goals but it didn't matter. Clean game both teams battled and coaches were gentlemen. Actually very refreshing to see. It will be interesting to see the rebound of both teams from this Would love to see the next Bandit practice lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]This whole recent thread is ridiculous. Empire didn't choose to be in the B division. They are a top 3 or 4 team in the age group. They are talented from goalie to attack. Enough of this trash talk.

I have to agree - top 3 or 4 in the "B" division- right where they played


They are definitely tops in the B division. Not bad for a second year team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watched game igloo just out ground balled the Bandits. Thought the igloo goalie was incredible and igloo was very poised offensively. Bandits won majority of faceoffs and few resulted in goals but it didn't matter. Clean game both teams battled and coaches were gentlemen. Actually very refreshing to see. It will be interesting to see the rebound of both teams from this Would love to see the next Bandit practice lol

yeah, the Bandits are now going to practice 4 days per week.
As a side note - just want to warn the LAX community as the tourney season is upon us, that there are people in this world who unfortunately are stealing kids sticks at tournaments. My sons GAIT ICE stick was taken this weekend at LAX Fest and today ran into a woman at the lacrosse store who had both of her sons GAIT ICE sticks stolen as well - same sticks, same tournament (during the 5th, 6th and 7th grade games on Sunday morning).
Get the word out and make sure nothing is left unattended so this doesn't happen again. It's a real shame because these sticks are not cheap and mean a lot to these kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a side note - just want to warn the LAX community as the tourney season is upon us, that there are people in this world who unfortunately are stealing kids sticks at tournaments. My sons GAIT ICE stick was taken this weekend at LAX Fest and today ran into a woman at the lacrosse store who had both of her sons GAIT ICE sticks stolen as well - same sticks, same tournament (during the 5th, 6th and 7th grade games on Sunday morning).
Get the word out and make sure nothing is left unattended so this doesn't happen again. It's a real shame because these sticks are not cheap and mean a lot to these kids.


Also, kids are stealing bagels from other people's tents. Sometimes they take the cream cheese too!
how is True Blue this year.
do anyone know of a good attack man trainer?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is playing this weekend and where?


Most express teams are at their lax clash at Mitchell field.
Is fl$ a top club on Long Island? I never hear them mentioned with the top teams.
Who is JC
[quote=Anonymous]Who is JC[/
The coach of our team.
Jesus Christo?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is fl$ a top club on Long Island? I never hear them mentioned with the top teams.

The only club BOTC supports is the Outlaws. Great club, no politics, good coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is fl$ a top club on Long Island? I never hear them mentioned with the top teams.

The only club BOTC supports is the Outlaws. Great club, no politics, good coaches.


BOTC does support them and for the reasons you posted BUT we also support others.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.


Care to elaborate? Maybe give some evidence why, in your words, "they suck"? I've seen True Blue play many times, this season and in years passed. They may not be the premier club, but they are very competitive and always play hard.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.


Nice. Way to talk about a club of 11 year olds. Class act all the way there crazy daddy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.


Nice. Way to talk about a club of 11 year olds. Class act all the way there crazy daddy

The kids are great, but not the coach or owner. We've been lied to, too many times.
yes u can find him on the soccer field
Crazy a program hasnt told truth...Can you beleive that garbage!!....man you must have just crawled ot from a rock you spos..



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.


Nice. Way to talk about a club of 11 year olds. Class act all the way there crazy daddy

The kids are great, but not the coach or owner. We've been lied to, too many times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a side note - just want to warn the LAX community as the tourney season is upon us, that there are people in this world who unfortunately are stealing kids sticks at tournaments. My sons GAIT ICE stick was taken this weekend at LAX Fest and today ran into a woman at the lacrosse store who had both of her sons GAIT ICE sticks stolen as well - same sticks, same tournament (during the 5th, 6th and 7th grade games on Sunday morning).
Get the word out and make sure nothing is left unattended so this doesn't happen again. It's a real shame because these sticks are not cheap and mean a lot to these kids.


I suspect Bandits took the sticks.
Also, kids are stealing bagels from other people's tents. Sometimes they take the cream cheese too!
It wasn't funny the first time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crazy a program hasnt told truth...Can you beleive that garbage!!....man you must have just crawled ot from a rock you spos..



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is True Blue this year.

They suck and so does JC. Management is a joke.


Nice. Way to talk about a club of 11 year olds. Class act all the way there crazy daddy

The kids are great, but not the coach or owner. We've been lied to, too many times.


JC is a very good coach but some do not like his style. My son as well as some others liked him but others on his teams don't. And yes he will tell you what ever it takes to get you in!!! I have been told many things by him that did not happen. That is why we left. I had 2 kids with them in different age group's. But again if you can trust him and your kid likes, he will bring out the best in them!!1
thank you. seriously. Which is why no one responded the first time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It wasn't funny the first time.
JC has a reputation as being a neanderthal in his teachings. Curses, smacks and has kids fight each other. Yells at kids on other teams and teaches by intimidation. Tell me where to sign up?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JC has a reputation as being a neanderthal in his teachings. Curses, smacks and has kids fight each other. Yells at kids on other teams and teaches by intimidation. Tell me where to sign up?

100% accurate. That's why True Blue will never change and it's who they are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JC has a reputation as being a neanderthal in his teachings. Curses, smacks and has kids fight each other. Yells at kids on other teams and teaches by intimidation. Tell me where to sign up?

This is completely false.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JC has a reputation as being a neanderthal in his teachings. Curses, smacks and has kids fight each other. Yells at kids on other teams and teaches by intimidation. Tell me where to sign up?

This is completely false.

ok JC, yeah right!
JC is a great coach. A motivator and teacher A touch old school, but everyone wants old school back til old school affects their silver spoon baby
what do you mean by that, thinking of having my son try out for them
JC's coaching style is too much for all these over protective parents. Don't misconstrue yelling as "smacking" or claim he has kids "having kids fight each other".!!!
Your comments just point out the fact that you have never played a sport at a high competitive level, or you also never had a coach that demanded you to get better. Do us all a favor, and don't have your kid play travel. Obviously you want your son to be the best,but you don't want him to be "pushed" or "challeneged" to reach his potential. Basically you just want the Trophy and lollipop after games and practices.

Your a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what do you mean by that, thinking of having my son try out for them

Don't waste your money. They'll lie to your face. Ask everyone what happened last year.
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.

How many Adelphi recruits the last few years?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.

How many Adelphi recruits the last few years?

So he helps young men that have played for him get into a college that he coaches. You are right he is horrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.

How many Adelphi recruits the last few years?

So he helps young men that have played for him get into a college that he coaches. You are right he is horrible.

You're a deusche.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blues coach JC is top of the line. He is the associate Head Coach of a successful College Team . You don't get too many college coaches coaching your kids. Most at this age have no resume of coaching but played in College. Coaching and Playing are two different things. Is he an old school type coach like Parcells yes. He is not for everyone. If your kid can't take getting yelled at then don't bother. He makes kids get a lot better. Did TB take too many kids this year? Yes. So did some other teams. They stated that they made a mistake and are adding another tournament. Next year they say will be different. Only time will tell. Don't believe the haters that think they are on top teams because of the name brand and then realized the coaching sucks!

Express, 91, Outlaws, produce significantly more D1 players. True Blue produces Adelphi players.

2017 team has 2 kids that just made the 2017 Under Armor team. They are going to Maryland and Lehigh, respectively.


Nothing to do with lacrosse but that is a incorrect use of the word "respectively". How can you say respectively which implies some order of things when you said "2 kids made...". No disrespect just don't use big words if you don't know how.
Igloo dominated the Bandits at Laxfest
How are the laxachusets teams, green and white?
Jc has been great for our son
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the laxachusets teams, green and white?


I believe there are 3 or 4 teams on the grade level. I think, moving from strongest to weakest, they are Black, Green, and white. There may be a yellow as well and I think they would be after white. Can anyone else confirm this? Black and green are very strong AA teams and White is a strong A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the laxachusets teams, green and white?


I believe there are 3 or 4 teams on the grade level. I think, moving from strongest to weakest, they are Black, Green, and white. There may be a yellow as well and I think they would be after white. Can anyone else confirm this? Black and green are very strong AA teams and White is a strong A team.


Yes, strongest to weakest are Black, Green, White snd Yellow RESPECTIVELY.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the laxachusets teams, green and white?


I believe there are 3 or 4 teams on the grade level. I think, moving from strongest to weakest, they are Black, Green, and white. There may be a yellow as well and I think they would be after white. Can anyone else confirm this? Black and green are very strong AA teams and White is a strong A team.


It's amazing we are now calling teams AA and A just to satisfy the Travel programs attempt to keep parents happy. Call a team a B team and parents bolt. Call that same team a A team with AA teams above them and the parents are good with it.

Go back to A, B,C and Horrible!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the laxachusets teams, green and white?


I believe there are 3 or 4 teams on the grade level. I think, moving from strongest to weakest, they are Black, Green, and white. There may be a yellow as well and I think they would be after white. Can anyone else confirm this? Black and green are very strong AA teams and White is a strong A team.


It's amazing we are now calling teams AA and A just to satisfy the Travel programs attempt to keep parents happy. Call a team a B team and parents bolt. Call that same team a A team with AA teams above them and the parents are good with it.

Go back to A, B,C and Horrible!!!!


I hear what you're saying. I just listed them that way because that's how the divisions are listed this weekend. On a side note... relax guy.
what are the top 5 2023 travel teams?
Can anyone give me any feedback about the Recon team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what are the top 5 2023 travel teams?

Outlaws, 91, Express, Legacy, Igloo
Bandits,Igloo, Express, Warriors, Shore to Shore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits,Igloo, Express, Warriors, Shore to Shore.

Did DK write this for S2S??
Are those the national rankings!!! LMAO
Where did you find those in Newsday or US Lacrosse?:)
Until you have a tournament on LI that everyone plays in, it's all speculation and team bias. Too bad Express and 91 decided to start their own tournament series so that they don't have to abide by the rule changes next year on September 1 being the age cut off. Now they can keep all of their older players while everyone else abides by the rules. Oh and the also get to keep all the money that they over charge their players!!!! 140 Bucks a kid!!! Do the math. Greed and deceit!!! If you want to say that you are the best team at this age then prove it by making your kids get age verified, if not then the lax community will know the truth...FRAUDS
When is US Lacrosse going to have age sanctioned tournaments on Long Island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
When is US Lacrosse going to have age sanctioned tournaments on Long Island?


read this.... N-E-V-E-R
My guess october 14th
Recon 2023 is in there first year, pretty good B level team
why the blanks?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Nothing to do with lacrosse but that is a incorrect use of the word "respectively". How can you say respectively which implies some order of things when you said "2 kids made...". No disrespect just don't use big words if you don't know how.


Nothing to do with lacrosse, but that is an incorrect use of the article, a.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are those the national rankings!!! LMAO
Where did you find those in Newsday or US Lacrosse?:)
Until you have a tournament on LI that everyone plays in, it's all speculation and team bias. Too bad Express and 91 decided to start their own tournament series so that they don't have to abide by the rule changes next year on September 1 being the age cut off. Now they can keep all of their older players while everyone else abides by the rules. Oh and the also get to keep all the money that they over charge their players!!!! 140 Bucks a kid!!! Do the math. Greed and deceit!!! If you want to say that you are the best team at this age then prove it by making your kids get age verified, if not then the lax community will know the truth...FRAUDS


This is comical. Every team has hold backs, but as long as they are graduating in 2023, they are legit. This is so old..
So everyone is ok with holdbacks except when Igloo plays their 2022s? Or do other teams also play older grade kids?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So everyone is ok with holdbacks except when Igloo plays their 2022s? Or do other teams also play older grade kids?


You mean when bandits play a 2022 who should be 2021?
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.
Get it together Express. Changing the standings and the schedule for tomorrow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's what happens when the Warriors wind up in the bottom 5. S2S running away with this one!
Badgers had the easiest schedule today but barely beat LIE North. They will get killed tomorrow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's how the brackets worked out but doesn't make sense. Not sure why they went to one bracket after changing the schedule multiple times. Maybe some common sense should dictate day 2, for the losers bracket.
How did outlaws select go from 0-3 to 1-2? Was this a legit error?
Outlaws select Lost One goal game to Laxachusettes Black- Far as Black team, why they are in A Bracket is just Dumb-Why did it become one bracket on Friday? Not fair to the Kids
Badgers had the easiest schedule today but barely beat LIE North. They will get killed tomorrow.

WRONG...Badgers dominated! Looked better than they ever have. Congrats A.J.
What was outcome of 2023 bracket today? Did Badgers take all?
Badgers crushed Outlaws Select 13-2. Then Warriors 11-3 and beat Laxachusetts Black in final 8-6.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did outlaws select go from 0-3 to 1-2? Was this a legit error?

Score Posted Wrong- beat prime time- Outlaws 2023 Is a B Plus Team, But beat Channy by like 16 goals and they(Express) sell that as a A team. Wow Parents re Dumb
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's what happens when the Warriors wind up in the bottom 5. S2S running away with this one!


Shore 2 Shore played 3 B teams. Total joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers crushed Outlaws Select 13-2. Then Warriors 11-3 and beat Laxachusetts Black in final 8-6.

Was PB even at the tourney?
S2S struggles to put two days of good play together.
Who won championship?
What was the score in the 8am S2S vs Laxachussets Black?
Comical that they stopped updating tourney machine today. No clue who won championships and other games. Must have been a bad day for express so they don't update the brackets and show scores.
S2S laxachusetts was 10-2

Final Express over Laxachusetts
8-6
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's what happens when the Warriors wind up in the bottom 5. S2S running away with this one!

S2S is running away with what? They run with a pariah of a head coach that has been told to leave by numerous travel groups.
Kudos to the kellenberg staff for running a tight ship. Plenty of garbage cans and constantly picking up lazy people's trash.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's what happens when the Warriors wind up in the bottom 5. S2S running away with this one!

S2S is running away with what? They run with a pariah of a head coach that has been told to leave by numerous travel groups.


Sounds like your kid wasn't invited to play on the team....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express missed the boat of not having 2 bracketo for the 2023 grade at Lax Clash. Warriors are playing the worst team in the tourney tomorrow. Outlaws Black barely scored any points. Gonna be a slaughter.


That's what happens when the Warriors wind up in the bottom 5. S2S running away with this one!

S2S is running away with what? They run with a pariah of a head coach that has been told to leave by numerous travel groups.

Outlaws haven't asked DK to leave... just sayin, from a concerned Mom.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers had the easiest schedule today but barely beat LIE North. They will get killed tomorrow.

WRONG...Badgers dominated! Looked better than they ever have. Congrats A.J.


AJ played?? Get a grip. They dominated a bunch of [lacrosse] teams.
S2S played one difficult team... And they got decimated. They are the most overrated team in the age group.
So who played in the 2023 Championship game and who won the bracket? Very weird Tourney Machine just dropped off mid day
Where does recon 2023 gold their practices?
S2S defense is weak - can't handle good teams. Goalie is excellent though...
Nassau - Plainview area
Express (formerly Badgers) stayed home this weekend and went 5-0 including 11-3 against Warriors and beat a very big Laxachusetts team in final who had just beaten S2S 10-2 in semi - AJ has the team humming!
Badgers won. Being a Grandmother to a CHILD on Express I cannot believe the rotten comments about other teams, or should I say other CHILDREN. These young men give it their all when they play in these tournaments. I just wonder what some of these parents say to their CHILDREN when they don't win. CHILDREN follow by example, and I can just guess that these young men that have such bullies as parents are bullies themselves. Has anyone ever heard of Sportsmanship? TO THE TEAMS THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE TOP SPOTS: Congrats to all of you for putting in 100%.Keep doing the best you can. After all, that's all that matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S played one difficult team... And they got decimated. They are the most overrated team in the age group.


Not sure why you say they are overrated. They lost to HBs last week 6-5 after being up 5-2. This week they lost to Laxachussets - for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. They do not match up well with them. But they are definitely a top team...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S played one difficult team... And they got decimated. They are the most overrated team in the age group.


Not sure why you say they are overrated. They lost to HBs last week 6-5 after being up 5-2. This week they lost to Laxachussets - for the 2nd time in 3 weeks. They do not match up well with them. But they are definitely a top team...

When are tryouts for S2S? I heard DK is leaving
They practice in the plainview area, team made up of wantagh, levitown and plain view kids
how is that Recon Team?
who is DK
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers won. Being a Grandmother to a CHILD on Express I cannot believe the rotten comments about other teams, or should I say other CHILDREN. These young men give it their all when they play in these tournaments. I just wonder what some of these parents say to their CHILDREN when they don't win. CHILDREN follow by example, and I can just guess that these young men that have such bullies as parents are bullies themselves. Has anyone ever heard of Sportsmanship? TO THE TEAMS THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE TOP SPOTS: Congrats to all of you for putting in 100%.Keep doing the best you can. After all, that's all that matters.


Shove it Grandma.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is DK

Donkey Kong
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers won. Being a Grandmother to a CHILD on Express I cannot believe the rotten comments about other teams, or should I say other CHILDREN. These young men give it their all when they play in these tournaments. I just wonder what some of these parents say to their CHILDREN when they don't win. CHILDREN follow by example, and I can just guess that these young men that have such bullies as parents are bullies themselves. Has anyone ever heard of Sportsmanship? TO THE TEAMS THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE TOP SPOTS: Congrats to all of you for putting in 100%.Keep doing the best you can. After all, that's all that matters.


Shove it Grandma.

Lol!!!!! I love it.
Need I say anymore???????
Seriously, a grandmother is on BOC?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers won. Being a Grandmother to a CHILD on Express I cannot believe the rotten comments about other teams, or should I say other CHILDREN. These young men give it their all when they play in these tournaments. I just wonder what some of these parents say to their CHILDREN when they don't win. CHILDREN follow by example, and I can just guess that these young men that have such bullies as parents are bullies themselves. Has anyone ever heard of Sportsmanship? TO THE TEAMS THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE TOP SPOTS: Congrats to all of you for putting in 100%.Keep doing the best you can. After all, that's all that matters.


Shove it Grandma.


Wow, just when you thought it couldn't get any lower on here.....
Congrats you low life
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seriously, a grandmother is on BOC?


You go girl!

Those of you who disagree with what she said are complete losers.

Those of you who disagree with what she said and twirl a lacrosse stick on the side line while your son plays are the saddest of all complete losers.

Carry on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers won. Being a Grandmother to a CHILD on Express I cannot believe the rotten comments about other teams, or should I say other CHILDREN. These young men give it their all when they play in these tournaments. I just wonder what some of these parents say to their CHILDREN when they don't win. CHILDREN follow by example, and I can just guess that these young men that have such bullies as parents are bullies themselves. Has anyone ever heard of Sportsmanship? TO THE TEAMS THAT DIDN'T COME IN THE TOP SPOTS: Congrats to all of you for putting in 100%.Keep doing the best you can. After all, that's all that matters.


Shove it Grandma.


Is there ever a time in your miserable life that you aren't a complete asshat?
Dobut it's a grandma. You think a grandma would just come here out of the blue calling them the Badgers? Read the post. Probably a mom or dad on the team trying to post without people thinking it's a a parent.
Additionally the post still rings true. Most parents are still normal. But the minority of crazy parents still cast a huge shadow on what is becoming less of an enjoyable sport.
I thought it was pretty funny. Remember, they booed Santa at a Jets game.
Hey Granny, I heard you yelling at my kid on the field the other day. Are you the one who yelled out "You Suck #"?
Starting next season it is no longer legit! US lacrosse came out with age guidelines and that kid now has to play in the year he was born!! Sorry to break up your great team full of hold backs but it's about time Lacrosse gets out of the Wild West. Nothing worst than seeing a team 2 ft taller that just came to a tournament to make a name. Soccer does it right with ID cards for the players and a roster that is submitted at the beginnings of the season. Time for Lax to level the playing field so we know who the real A teams are!!
She's as much a grandma as Igloo only playing grade appropriate kids. Both are false.
Your real funny (donkey kong), i did"t mean your wive
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Starting next season it is no longer legit! US lacrosse came out with age guidelines and that kid now has to play in the year he was born!! Sorry to break up your great team full of hold backs but it's about time Lacrosse gets out of the Wild West. Nothing worst than seeing a team 2 ft taller that just came to a tournament to make a name. Soccer does it right with ID cards for the players and a roster that is submitted at the beginnings of the season. Time for Lax to level the playing field so we know who the real A teams are!!


You're delusional. It'll never happen. US Lacrosse has about as much influence on LI lacrosse as I do. Maybe less.
It is already happening in a lot of states & I would assume it will catch on more & more. It would be nice to at least get some sort of age verification so its not so "Wild West".

US Lacrosse has age based sanctioned tournaments. They need to get more of these locally & families need to start entering their kids into these tournaments.

#LADM
They should definitely have the younger kids by age but I wonder as they get older it should be by class because that's how they'll be recruited? The goal (aside from making $$) of the top programs on LI and Maryland is to get these kids into schools they otherwise wouldn't get in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is already happening in a lot of states & I would assume it will catch on more & more. It would be nice to at least get some sort of age verification so its not so "Wild West".

US Lacrosse has age based sanctioned tournaments. They need to get more of these locally & families need to start entering their kids into these tournaments.

#LADM


It's only relevant at the youth level. Once these kids hit 7th grade they will be playing against each other whether they're 12, 13 or 14. All you crazies think that the youth level that our boys play at means something. It doesn't. It's irrelevant. I'd rather have my son plying against the best kids in his grade because that's how it going to be from 7th-12th grade, and possibly beyond.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is already happening in a lot of states & I would assume it will catch on more & more. It would be nice to at least get some sort of age verification so its not so "Wild West".

US Lacrosse has age based sanctioned tournaments. They need to get more of these locally & families need to start entering their kids into these tournaments.

#LADM


Families don't enter their kids in tournaments, the clubs do. And clubs in MD and LI like grade-based teams. US Lacrosse can pass all the guidelines it wants. Until this year they still recommended U-9, U-11, U-13. Everyone stopped following that a while ago.
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.
TLI forfeit at best of best? How come?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.


I have three kids playing travel and not one of them has a valid US Lacrosse ID number. Most people fudge that because they know that no one will ever check it. If you're so afraid of your fifth grader playing against a sixth grader then maybe contact sports are just not for you. An the only kid I know that has every played against kids 2 years older is a certain kid that play up on Crush. Bother wise, that 2 years older garbage is a myth perpetrated on this site so that parents can justify how a kid could be so much better than their little superstar. FYI, skill beats size every time. Some of the best kids I've seen play at our age group have been undersized. Very tough, but undersized. Toughness is a necessary requirement in contact sports.
No show.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
TLI forfeit at best of best? How come?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.


I have three kids playing travel and not one of them has a valid US Lacrosse ID number. Most people fudge that because they know that no one will ever check it. If you're so afraid of your fifth grader playing against a sixth grader then maybe contact sports are just not for you. An the only kid I know that has every played against kids 2 years older is a certain kid that play up on Crush. Bother wise, that 2 years older garbage is a myth perpetrated on this site so that parents can justify how a kid could be so much better than their little superstar. FYI, skill beats size every time. Some of the best kids I've seen play at our age group have been undersized. Very tough, but undersized. Toughness is a necessary requirement in contact sports.


Than why doesn't this mentality apply in equal force to the kid playing "down" by being a holdback? Why isn't that kid asked to toughen up? And complaints about kids having to play against older kids are not limited to size. The older kids also are advantaged in areas of speed, quickness, stick skills, aggression, and sports IQ.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.


I have three kids playing travel and not one of them has a valid US Lacrosse ID number. Most people fudge that because they know that no one will ever check it. If you're so afraid of your fifth grader playing against a sixth grader then maybe contact sports are just not for you. An the only kid I know that has every played against kids 2 years older is a certain kid that play up on Crush. Bother wise, that 2 years older garbage is a myth perpetrated on this site so that parents can justify how a kid could be so much better than their little superstar. FYI, skill beats size every time. Some of the best kids I've seen play at our age group have been undersized. Very tough, but undersized. Toughness is a necessary requirement in contact sports.

A myth? Just check the UA rosters for this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.


I have three kids playing travel and not one of them has a valid US Lacrosse ID number. Most people fudge that because they know that no one will ever check it. If you're so afraid of your fifth grader playing against a sixth grader then maybe contact sports are just not for you. An the only kid I know that has every played against kids 2 years older is a certain kid that play up on Crush. Bother wise, that 2 years older garbage is a myth perpetrated on this site so that parents can justify how a kid could be so much better than their little superstar. FYI, skill beats size every time. Some of the best kids I've seen play at our age group have been undersized. Very tough, but undersized. Toughness is a necessary requirement in contact sports.

A myth? Just check the UA rosters for this weekend.


5th graders at UA? No.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you were right about that then why does every club make it mandatory that your kid has a US Lacrosse ID number? Because of the insurance it provides your kid. So with that comes power. What US Lacrosse needs to do is add a stipulation that their insurance is only covering players who participates in US Lacrosse rules based tournaments. So now if your kid gets hurt in some NLF tournament their is no insurance and maybe now the parent whose kid gets injured can sue the tournament for injuries occurred by a player 2 years older!! Do you want to see how fast everyone conforms then!! Insurance is too expensive.


I have three kids playing travel and not one of them has a valid US Lacrosse ID number. Most people fudge that because they know that no one will ever check it. If you're so afraid of your fifth grader playing against a sixth grader then maybe contact sports are just not for you. An the only kid I know that has every played against kids 2 years older is a certain kid that play up on Crush. Bother wise, that 2 years older garbage is a myth perpetrated on this site so that parents can justify how a kid could be so much better than their little superstar. FYI, skill beats size every time. Some of the best kids I've seen play at our age group have been undersized. Very tough, but undersized. Toughness is a necessary requirement in contact sports.


Than why doesn't this mentality apply in equal force to the kid playing "down" by being a holdback? Why isn't that kid asked to toughen up? And complaints about kids having to play against older kids are not limited to size. The older kids also are advantaged in areas of speed, quickness, stick skills, aggression, and sports IQ.


Chances are the "holdback" entered school at the same time your future hall of gamer did. He's likely been playing lax just as long as your boy. He's probably 4 months older and works a lot harder than your kid. Change your tampton and stop complaining. This is how it is now and forever has been.
Funny. I see what you did there. By referencing a tampon, you are implying that I am female. And being female means that I'm not tough and that I complain for no reason. I get it. You are the man and so that means you have all the answers.
But let me take a stab at guessing more about you. Your son is a holdback. And you are insecure about it. Find a good therapist. And just accept that some kids need to cheat to level the playing field. Yours, for example, Don't blame yourself. It's a good chance he's not yours. And if by some luck he is, I can only assume that your brilliant reasoning served you well at Suffolk Community College. Which means you probably won't understand this post. By the way, I said fill it up with the premium gas buddy. Get it straight.
S2S has the best defense in 2023. Every week has the least goals against.
Wow , that's great.
[quote=Anonymous]S2S has the best defense in 2023. Every week has the least goals against

I guess the 10 goals they gave up last weekend against laxachusetts doesn't count ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S has the best defense in 2023. Every week has the least goals against.


They are a decent team. Not the best defense in 2023. They aren'tconsistent. Some games are off the chart and others are terrible. They are a brand new team. They may grow into one of the best if they can hold it together.
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Didn't realize they were only considered a Suffolk team. I know a nassau kid that plays for them. Their 2023 team isn't very good. Wonder where they will practice for the Nassau teams. Unless they get really good coaches they will have trouble taking the nassau talent that already plays on other teams.
I don't know where you get your info. reg. the Empire 2023 team as not being good. The Green team has a bunch of good, talented players that are starting to gel as a group. Being a second year program they are coming into their own....
The green team is good, their second team is b/c level. Just like most programs 2 different level teams. Nothing wrong with that. I am sure a few nassau kids, but most are suffolk and they practice way out there. Nassau side teams will practice and have mostly nassau kids. Hard to say where all the new kids will come from though. Cant imagine they will be high caliber to start.

So how many orgs/teams will 91 be rinning out there? Their own, empire suffolk, empire nassau, fighting ducks.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know where you get your info. reg. the Empire 2023 team as not being good. The Green team has a bunch of good, talented players that are starting to gel as a group. Being a second year program they are coming into their own....


Love when I hit a nerve. Little Johnny's team isn't that good. It's ok. We are talking about 5rh grade lax!
News Flash!! Little Johnny's team is good and is getting better...Yes it is 5th grade Lacrosse and yes there are other programs that are growing and will/are competing with others!!
Reality check
Baltimore Crabs really had a nice showing at Young Guns this weekend. Beat Igloo twice...Putting the 410 at the top for 2023's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what are the top 5 2023 travel teams?

Outlaws, 91, Express, Legacy, Igloo
Maryland teams Baltimore Crabs, Bethesda, Annapolis Hawks, PA teams Brotherly Love
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Baltimore Crabs really had a nice showing at Young Guns this weekend. Beat Igloo twice...Putting the 410 at the top for 2023's
Yes they did...Impressive wins against Brotherly Love, Bethesda, and Igloo.... One of the toughest tournaments I have ever seen. Their road to the championship was incredible....Quality team and Impressive wins
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Yes, Ive heard that LI Empire wants to start up Nassau as well for all age levels. Will be nice to have more Nassau based teams! Good luck to them!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny. I see what you did there. By referencing a tampon, you are implying that I am female. And being female means that I'm not tough and that I complain for no reason. I get it. You are the man and so that means you have all the answers.
But let me take a stab at guessing more about you. Your son is a holdback. And you are insecure about it. Find a good therapist. And just accept that some kids need to cheat to level the playing field. Yours, for example, Don't blame yourself. It's a good chance he's not yours. And if by some luck he is, I can only assume that your brilliant reasoning served you well at Suffolk Community College. Which means you probably won't understand this post. By the way, I said fill it up with the premium gas buddy. Get it straight.


I'm willing to bet some of the moms on this board could easily give many of the dads a beat down. Some probably have. Hence all the anger from the shattered male egos. Your weakness is pathetic. Probably where your boy learned it from.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Slow down on the #1 team in America talk....Really Long Island parents need to check themselves. Baltimore Crabs made Igloo look silly this past weekend beating them twice....Just saying....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Yes, Ive heard that LI Empire wants to start up Nassau as well for all age levels. Will be nice to have more Nassau based teams! Good luck to them!

False. Tryouts and practices are in Mt Sinai
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Yes, Ive heard that LI Empire wants to start up Nassau as well for all age levels. Will be nice to have more Nassau based teams! Good luck to them!

False. Tryouts and practices are in Mt Sinai


Expect there to be a Nassau component, FACT.
Your false is false. At least one coach already in the fold. Really not a big enough deal to have to deny it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Slow down on the #1 team in America talk....Really Long Island parents need to check themselves. Baltimore Crabs made Igloo look silly this past weekend beating them twice....Just saying....



Slow down there. That's a very broad brush you paint with. You think all 10,000 of us got on a conference call to decide how we would post this? Put down the crab cakes and talk to the one igloo parent that posted this. Bandits still 1, the rest a scrum.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Slow down on the #1 team in America talk....Really Long Island parents need to check themselves. Baltimore Crabs made Igloo look silly this past weekend beating them twice....Just saying....



Slow down there. That's a very broad brush you paint with. You think all 10,000 of us got on a conference call to decide how we would post this? Put down the crab cakes and talk to the one igloo parent that posted this. Bandits still #1, the rest a scrum.
Igloo Beats Bandits....Bandits still claim #1....How is that? Your Long Island teams can't come down to Maryland and beat crappy B and C teams and claim your #1 in the world....
Again, put down the crab cakes. Read the post S L O W L Y. All you are doing is enhancing your inferiority complex. One person said igloo was #1. I could care less about igloo or bandits. But you think if a team goes 20-0, and then loses one game, tear the team apart they're done. OK fine. Name a team down there. That is head and shoulders above all other teams. They happen to go 25-1. Now they are the second or 3rd best team?
JS having a tough weekend with his boys, will Crush fall to Looneys next week?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Yes, Ive heard that LI Empire wants to start up Nassau as well for all age levels. Will be nice to have more Nassau based teams! Good luck to them!

False. Tryouts and practices are in Mt Sinai


Expect there to be a Nassau component, FACT.

Yeah 91 did the same thing with the Hurricanes out of Nassau two years ago. That went really well. It was a complete joke, and they only cared about 91, not any of their offshoots.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS having a tough weekend with his boys, will Crush fall to Looneys next week?


I think you're confused. His 2023 and 2025 teams went undefeated in MD this weekend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard from a friend whos kid is on LI Empire that they are starting Nassau County teams. Anyone have details in this?


Yes, Ive heard that LI Empire wants to start up Nassau as well for all age levels. Will be nice to have more Nassau based teams! Good luck to them!

False. Tryouts and practices are in Mt Sinai


Miller place actually, but you would know that if you had a clue


Good for the, for expanding


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS having a tough weekend with his boys, will Crush fall to Looneys next week?


I think you're confused. His 2023 and 2025 teams went undefeated in MD this weekend.


Blaze with jr total beatdown!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to Igloo the new # 1 team in America with the Warriors a close#2. Best of luck the rest of the summer.
Slow down on the #1 team in America talk....Really Long Island parents need to check themselves. Baltimore Crabs made Igloo look silly this past weekend beating them twice....Just saying....

try and read sarcasm. But silly? You can anoint Crabs, Bandits, and Express the best teams in the country for all anyone cares. The rest of us FLIDS will just keep our boys working hard.
Great pool of teams at NXT
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great pool of teams at NXT


Are the boys able to swim in it?
Igloo cheated against the bandits brought up kids from there older team (goalie)
Once again - Bandits lost fair & square. Get over it & show a little bit of class.
The 2 Igloo goalies are small little dudes. tough and made some sick saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo cheated against the bandits brought up kids from there older team (goalie)
Anyone seen the big time maverick schedule for this weekend yet?
havent seen the schedule yet. Its still early, LOL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS having a tough weekend with his boys, will Crush fall to Looneys next week?


I think you're confused. His 2023 and 2025 teams went undefeated in MD this weekend.


Blaze with jr total beatdown!


Of course the lefty Penn State Commit wasn't there drawing all the attention, doubles and early slides from the D , not to mention the UNC commit on the other side
Originally Posted by Anonymous
havent seen the schedule yet. Its still early, LOL.


Guys this is the 2023 board Speaking of which should be some great 2023 games at NXT
How many Long Island teams make the semi finals ? Looks like a great group of teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Long Island teams make the semi finals ? Looks like a great group of teams


4 S2S Igloo Express Bandits
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Long Island teams make the semi finals ? Looks like a great group of teams

OUTLAWS ALL THE WAY!!!!!
Looks like either Igoo or S to S will get eliminated since they have to play each other in pool play. Maybe the semis will be Bandits , Express , Warriors & either Igloo or S to S.
All the way to where?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like either Igoo or S to S will get eliminated since they have to play each other in pool play. Maybe the semis will be Bandits , Express , Warriors & either Igloo or S to S.


brotherly love will spank warriors
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like either Igoo or S to S will get eliminated since they have to play each other in pool play. Maybe the semis will be Bandits , Express , Warriors & either Igloo or S to S.


brotherly love will spank warriors


Easy to say, not as easy to do
who is JS and what team?
First round games should be interesting for seeds
Couple top teams with ties!!
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.
Bandits, Express, S2S and Brotherly Love - no surprises
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Hater [lacrosse]. You are clearly the joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Hater [lacrosse]. You are clearly the joke.


2 if the 3 teams they played today we're a joke. The one legit team they played they lost to. Are you saying they played real talent today?
Bandits going down today. BM's old team is going to crush them.
Absolutely, with parents talking about taking it out into the parking lot is crazy, go read the Spirit of the Stick and see what lacrosse is really about
Without BM, they don't have a chance.
Wishful thinking & a ridiculous statement. This can not be from an Express parent. Let's just hope for a good competitive game .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wishful thinking & a ridiculous statement. This can not be from an Express parent. Let's just hope for a good competitive game .

Shove it grandpa.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Absolutely, with parents talking about taking it out into the parking lot is crazy, go read the Spirit of the Stick and see what lacrosse is really about


Who was going in the parking lot ? Warriors ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Absolutely, with parents talking about taking it out into the parking lot is crazy, go read the Spirit of the Stick and see what lacrosse is really about


Who was going in the parking lot ? Warriors ?


Igloo and FCA. Kids were slightly less disgraceful than the parents and coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Brotherly Love is an impressive team. I had never even heard of them before this weekend. They will beat S2S and I'm not sure it will be very close. This tourney was super competitive with 8 legitimately solid teams in the age group. The best lacrosse I've seen yet.
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.


I feel bad for the town teams that had a great chance at a tournament win, but will lose out on that experience because the Tornados, an A team (at least they were probably told that), were that desperate for a shirt. Congrats, you beat Loonys B and town teams, if you guys can get past Three Village.
Shore to Shore 6 Brotherly Love 5
Bandits 4 Express 3
Bandits 4-3 over Express and S2S in OT of Bro Love
Not eight teams - more like five teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.

Happy to see old bandit found a new home on "B" tornados. Guess they really need those tshirts
Bandits players playing for leg? What next Crushers playing on taz?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not eight teams - more like five teams.


8 teams. Your kid's obviously playing somewhere else.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why did Legacy play in the B division? Are they packing it in like Empire and chasing some weak B division t-shirts? That's a little surprising. A teams who play in B divisions are pathetic.

Happy to see old bandit found a new home on "B" tornados. Guess they really need those tshirts


That's awful.
A Joke. They Had trouble with Prime Time needing a last second score on man up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Hater [lacrosse]. You are clearly the joke.


2 if the 3 teams they played today we're a joke. The one legit team they played they lost to. Are you saying they played real talent today?
Just looked it up . Prime Time also beat the Warriors two weeks ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A Joke. They Had trouble with Prime Time needing a last second score on man up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Hater [lacrosse]. You are clearly the joke.


2 if the 3 teams they played today we're a joke. The one legit team they played they lost to. Are you saying they played real talent today?
Empire wins another B. Very impressive. Must love those T shirts
What tourney did Empire win?
Why don't you worry about your own team instead of bashing
Other program's teams.... Sounds like a pathetic loser getting
Jollies out of jabbing other teams.... Obviously never played the game and
Probably is the parent all decked out in team apparel beating his
Chest on the sidelines..... New teams/ programs go through a process of
Learning/ gelling/ and fitting in pieces to the puzzle....sounds like you're feeling a
Little threatened... Give it a rest!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just looked it up . Prime Time also beat the Warriors two weeks ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A Joke. They Had trouble with Prime Time needing a last second score on man up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So the Warriors get a pass today playing teams that aren't even close in skill level. What a joke.


Hater [lacrosse]. You are clearly the joke.


2 if the 3 teams they played today we're a joke. The one legit team they played they lost to. Are you saying they played real talent today?


You must have a very empty life following teams that your son doesn't play for. DELETED!!!!


If you guys think you can figure it out then God bless you. Prime Time lost to Brotherly Love by 2 but outplayed them and hit 5 pipes. Dukes tie HB. Warriors beat Dukes. BL beats HB. HB plays Bandits to a one goal loss. Bandits blow out S2S. Igloo, Dukes, Warriors and FCA play in the loser bracket. FCA and Igloo end a very good 1 goal game with a fight.Bandits, BL, HB and S2S play in the winner bracket. All of those teams are very good. You can say what you want, but none of them suck. They are all competitive teams and all of them got better because they played quality games against quality opponents this weekend. The teams that weren't there played against very weak competition and did not learn anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire wins another B. Very impressive. Must love those T shirts


Why do people have a problem with this? Some team need wins. Empire is a very competitive B division team. Right on the cusp of competing in A. They are only a 2nd year program. Leg Tornados won in B today too, but that's where they should be. That's not meant to be a criticism of either team. Kids don't want to lose all the time. You need to keep them winning so they will continue to enjoy the sport. Once they are more improved, they will probably play in A divisions at more legitimate tournaments. But for now, they are finding the right fit for them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire wins another B. Very impressive. Must love those T shirts


Why do people have a problem with this? Some team need wins. Empire is a very competitive B division team. Right on the cusp of competing in A. They are only a 2nd year program. Leg Tornados won in B today too, but that's where they should be. That's not meant to be a criticism of either team. Kids don't want to lose all the time. You need to keep them winning so they will continue to enjoy the sport. Once they are more improved, they will probably play in A divisions at more legitimate tournaments. But for now, they are finding the right fit for them.



Have to agree with this! Great job, and congrats to the boys!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire wins another B. Very impressive. Must love those T shirts


Where did you play today? Did ya win? Maybe you should worry about that.
Parents who are this concerned with another team/org and what division they won, tshirt collection, etc are pathetic.
You people that watch other teams are a joke. Very pathetic watching this if you are a parent. Get a life loser.
You people that watch other teams are a joke. Very pathetic watching this if you are a parent. Get a life loser.
A win is a win. They are kids. Jeez
First off empire was in the A bracket. They played all teams from out of state that they have never played before. How are they supposed to know the talent level of those teams? They went up to Rhode Island and the kids had a great weekend with a very good championship game. Last I checked they were all 2023 kids and played in the 2023 A bracket. What am I missing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First off empire was in the A bracket. They played all teams from out of state that they have never played before. How are they supposed to know the talent level of those teams? They went up to Rhode Island and the kids had a great weekend with a very good championship game. Last I checked they were all 2023 kids and played in the 2023 A bracket. What am I missing?


It is common knowledge that the best teams play at NXT. Just like War Games, Empire avoided the tougher teams to play in tournaments against weak teams so that they could win. There were no legit A teams in Rhode Island. And that is ok. Good for the boys on getting the win!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First off empire was in the A bracket. They played all teams from out of state that they have never played before. How are they supposed to know the talent level of those teams? They went up to Rhode Island and the kids had a great weekend with a very good championship game. Last I checked they were all 2023 kids and played in the 2023 A bracket. What am I missing?


Competition
Empire will never play in an A tournament. We all know that. When is the last time they beat an A team? Just a thought. Keep winning against the easy competition Everyone sees what they are up too. Pathetic
Empire will never play in an A tournament. We all know that. When is the last time they beat an A team? Just a thought. Keep winning against the easy competition Everyone sees what they are up too. Pathetic
Empire will never play in an A tournament. We all know that. When is the last time they beat an A team? Just a thought. Keep winning against the easy competition Everyone sees what they are up too. Pathetic
Last I checked the kids and the parents don't choose what tournaments they are entered in. Unfortunately it's the organization that does. The kids play 100% regardless of their competition. They lost to the Outlaws 4-3 in the championship this year and lost to the Warriors last year by a goal and let's face it the Warriors aren't the team they used to be. Say what you want, that empire team can be just as competitive on any given day.
Why do you guys care so much about Empire? Let the boys play.
Evidently you can't say anything bad about the Warriors! They are a good team but others are catching up and taking over quickly. Congrats Empire!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Without BM, they don't have a chance.


You nailed that. Badgers ended up in 4th place. 2 wins, 2 loses and a tie. BM
must be beside himself seeing his team play like crap.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the kids and the parents don't choose what tournaments they are entered in. Unfortunately it's the organization that does. The kids play 100% regardless of their competition. They lost to the Outlaws 4-3 in the championship this year and lost to the Warriors last year by a goal and let's face it the Warriors aren't the team they used to be. Say what you want, that empire team can be just as competitive on any given day.


Outlaws are second tier in 2023. Warriors are much better than last year, but not a top 4 team yet. They just stepped up to play with the big boys this year. At least I can respect a team for that. Empire did the opposite. They got worse and played teams that no one has ever heard of. Are they playing Lax Clash to end the season or are they hiding that weekend too?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Evidently you can't say anything bad about the Warriors! They are a good team but others are catching up and taking over quickly. Congrats Empire!


Who said anything about Warriors? It's pretty obvious this is coming from an ex-Warrior parent who also happens to be an ex-Empire parent. Just let it go.
Empire played one real team all season. The outlaws and they got beat 2x. The rest of the teams were town teams. Nobody fears empire.Real teams will kill them. Hopefully they don't hide from the good teams again. Very embarrassing if I'm a parent and I gotta watch my team play B teams all the time.
What is pathetic us your comments....
Express had won their last 2 tournaments beating Laxachusetts and S2S in finals and got beat 4-3 by Bandits in this weekends semi - AJ has them humming!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire played one real team all season. The outlaws and they got beat 2x. The rest of the teams were town teams. Nobody fears empire.Real teams will kill them. Hopefully they don't hide from the good teams again. Very embarrassing if I'm a parent and I gotta watch my team play B teams all the time.


That's what you think of at 3:30 AM. You may need to speak to someone, because you have serious issues.
How about sputtering....2-2-1 this weekend. Team doesn't look for new talent..32 breaks up and AJ doesn't add one kid. They can keep pretending until MC comes in a takes the team.
BM aspired to be the best and to keep improving. Kids are not motivated the same way under Current coaches.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about sputtering....2-2-1 this weekend. Team doesn't look for new talent..32 breaks up and AJ doesn't add one kid. They can keep pretending until MC comes in a takes the team.


I heard BM may have found a new home
You guys are comparing HBs and others to how they dominated when they were 8 and 9 years old. Didn't you read this board when older parents told you that that didn't matter??Fortunately for everyone, many more kids are playing travel lax. This has led to much more parity on the grade level. Having many good teams is way better than 1 or 2 dominant teams. You'll see some teams take on a bunch of new players and get a lot better next year and some make only minor changes and stay the same. That's how it works. The balance of power, or top 4 teams, will change annually. This has been a much more interesting season than years past, that's for certain.
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



Was the kid on the tournament roster? All had to sign up? Bringing in mercenaries for fogo duty 2nd half? How could parents let their kid do that? Or parents on that team deal with it?

Embarrassment to the sport they proclaim to love.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about sputtering....2-2-1 this weekend. Team doesn't look for new talent..32 breaks up and AJ doesn't add one kid. They can keep pretending until MC comes in a takes the team.


I heard BM may have found a new home

Outlaws?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



Pretty good assessment. But Bandits smoked S2S. 8-2. The faceoff kid was just cherry-picked off of Outlaws a few weeks ago. That pretty much outs outlaws in the B division. Also, S2S got destroyed by Laxachusettes 10-2.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



Was the kid on the tournament roster? All had to sign up? Bringing in mercenaries for fogo duty 2nd half? How could parents let their kid do that? Or parents on that team deal with it?

Embarrassment to the sport they proclaim to love.


Parents and kid weren't a good fit with Outlaws. He went over to the Bandits mid season but never played because JS kid is the faceoff guy for Bandits. Tough break for Outlaws.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



Those two big Brotherly Love kids played all tourney. Different shorts and just way better than anyone else on the field. That's probably why no one had ever heard of that team before. I would take them off of that list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.


You are either a crazy S2S parent, or care way too much about 11 yr old lax to stick around for their two games yesterday.

Saw a tweet that Bandits dad flew in from Cali with his son to play with Blaze, kid is also known to play down on Bandits, hmmmmm?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



Crabs 2023 is a first year team. They don't want to get beat up so they are very cautious about their tourney choices. I'm guessing they'll be more visible next year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



I think this is a very honest and solid assessment of this age group.
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You are either a crazy S2S parent, or care way too much about 11 yr old lax to stick around for their two games yesterday.

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Not S2S but news travels fast - especially when there is controversy. Maybe you are Bandits parent upset that your run is over in the 5th grade?
S2S was 6-5 versus Laxachussetts in Boston a week ago.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire will never play in an A tournament. We all know that. When is the last time they beat an A team? Just a thought. Keep winning against the easy competition Everyone sees what they are up too. Pathetic


So many "haters" in this world...These comments have to be derived from a salty parent who's team NEVER wins. The teams that win (not that you would know so I'll spell it out), typically enjoy themselves and are not concerned with others accomplishments. With that, continue to sip on the hatorade and watch others enjoy there success while you stew in your sad lonely world. Now go and try to enjoy the rest of your summer - troll...mic drop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw a tweet that Bandits dad flew in from Cali with his son to play with Blaze, kid is also known to play down on Bandits, hmmmmm?


Why make cr@p up????? provide the proof.
Now that is funny. Correcting the advocate of working harder in school. Maybe he should go back to summer school and forget this lacrosse thing.
Hey, JS takes his kid out of the FO spot to bring in a better player and someone here rips him for it. Funny. His kid gets replaced, the coach lives by the sword with his own son, and people on here are ripping all involved, including the coach and the parents of the kid that moves up to a better deal. Suddenly they owe the organization they paid loyalty? Nope, not for one second. You pay your fee and you do what's best for your kid.

People will rip you from all directions, so just do what is best for your kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey, JS takes his kid out of the FO spot to bring in a better player and someone here rips him for it. Funny. His kid gets replaced, the coach lives by the sword with his own son, and people on here are ripping all involved, including the coach and the parents of the kid that moves up to a better deal. Suddenly they owe the organization they paid loyalty? Nope, not for one second. You pay your fee and you do what's best for your kid.

People will rip you from all directions, so just do what is best for your kids.


Well said! We all do what's best for our kid. Can't please everyone. If JS wasn't playing the better kid people would be moaning and groaning that his kid gets special treatment. The kid who moved to Bandits works hard and deserves it. And trust me the Bandits don't just take any kid for the sake of taking him. He was seeked out. Would any of us tell JS um yea no thanks if our kid was offered a spot to play? no we wouldn't.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey, JS takes his kid out of the FO spot to bring in a better player and someone here rips him for it. Funny. His kid gets replaced, the coach lives by the sword with his own son, and people on here are ripping all involved, including the coach and the parents of the kid that moves up to a better deal. Suddenly they owe the organization they paid loyalty? Nope, not for one second. You pay your fee and you do what's best for your kid.

People will rip you from all directions, so just do what is best for your kids.


No ripping of JS, his son, or the kid who moved. Just the parents that moved him. It's a bad move for the kid and you'll see by the end of the summer.

People will rip you from all directions, so just do what is best for your kids. [/quote]

They got a good one - kid was the difference in the game.

Bottom line is there is no team head & shoulders above the rest - no team way out in front. On any day one of the above teams can beat any of the others. The competition is great!
JS son is and has been top facing off midfielder (not designating fogo in 5th gr) sorry. Struggled in championship was replaced by someone else on the team but played mid instead. I have many times disagreed w JS in the past but this moved showed me he holds ALL the kids accountable which in this day and age is refreshing. Many good teams in this age
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS son is and has been top facing off midfielder (not designating fogo in 5th gr) sorry. Struggled in championship was replaced by someone else on the team but played mid instead. I have many times disagreed w JS in the past but this moved showed me he holds ALL the kids accountable which in this day and age is refreshing. Many good teams in this age


Tough to hold the kids accountable that didn't play - there were many in the championship game. Not sure why kids would want to be 13-20 on that team. If they don't play in 5th grade they are never going to play...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS son is and has been top facing off midfielder (not designating fogo in 5th gr) sorry. Struggled in championship was replaced by someone else on the team but played mid instead. I have many times disagreed w JS in the past but this moved showed me he holds ALL the kids accountable which in this day and age is refreshing. Many good teams in this age


Tough to hold the kids accountable that didn't play - there were many in the championship game. Not sure why kids would want to be 13-20 on that team. If they don't play in 5th grade they are never going to play...


You know the deal when you sign up. He tells you at the tryout. You have to make that call with/for your kid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



You keep putting HB in the 2 slot when they keep losing games. The team has lost more games this year than in the last 3 yrs combined, so how is it that the team is "humming" and in better shape under AJ??? The team roster is the same as when BM had it but he was able to win games. With the kids maturing 1 extra year, BM would probably be undefeated. You're one of the Dad's who has it out for BM probably because he was going to cut your kid. Be lucky AJ came in and saved him from the chopping block.
Thanks S2S Dad. Actually it was 8-2. And how did they dominate the first half and be losing 3-2 ? I'm sure JS doesn't have to look for a FO kid with a different helmet and jersey. He's not that stupid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.



You keep putting HB in the 2 slot when they keep losing games. The team has lost more games this year than in the last 3 yrs combined, so how is it that the team is "humming" and in better shape under AJ??? The team roster is the same as when BM had it but he was able to win games. With the kids maturing 1 extra year, BM would probably be undefeated. You're one of the Dad's who has it out for BM probably because he was going to cut your kid. Be lucky AJ came in and saved him from the chopping block.


Reality is other kids are catching up. The kids that were on HBO were always the top kids. They were early developers and they were great. The landscape is changing. Other kids are increasing their skills and getting better. Some of the HB kids have remained at the same level.
Son was on other field but I kept an eye on the S2S bandit game Final score was 8-2 the game was boring as S2S held the ball and made No attempt to go to goal stalling Good strategy I guess but it is 5th grade lacrosse kids should be playing. Brotherly love tremendously over sized. Cough cough
Go Warriors! Antonio is doing the right job!! Awesome progress!
Empire would beat up on the Warriors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire would beat up on the Warriors.


They would have to play in the A division to find out. After getting beat 6 times in a row last season, I'm guessing that's not going to happen.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go Warriors! Antonio is doing the right job!! Awesome progress!


As a Warrior parent, I think this post is silly and unnecessary. Stay above the BS.
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Your coaches were overheard contradicting this entire line of BS. Save it. Your club is not the first to do it and certainly won't be the last.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Sorry - this whole thing is tough to believe. The coaches didn't even know the kids names and either did the kids on the team. Again, you are a good team - no need to cheat - don't become the Rising Sons. Do it the RIGHT WAY!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Rookie move responding to this nonsense. Btw, kids who are older always look like superior athletes.
Let's focus on the real Brotherly Love story. S2S beat their fully loaded team with all of the guest and visiting hockey players. HB Express lost 5-1 to Brotherly Love less all of those "extra" superior athletes. MC needs to save this team from falling further.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Rookie move responding to this nonsense. Btw, kids who are older always look like superior athletes.


Rookie, maybe. Honorable, definitely!!!

BTW.. Sometimes the youngest kid looks the oldest!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's focus on the real Brotherly Love story. S2S beat their fully loaded team with all of the guest and visiting hockey players. HB Express lost 5-1 to Brotherly Love less all of those "extra" superior athletes. MC needs to save this team from falling further.


Yet HB played the bandits to a one goal game and the Bandits crushed S2S. Gimme a break. They're all very competitive, as they should be at this age. This isn't 3rd grade anymore.
In theory your morally superior founding team tenets sound like something we should all aspire to. In reality, it sounds like you have cherry picked a bunch of talented multi sport athletes, and allowed them to be part of a team without any accountability to the team or each other. Sounds to me like everyone is a "guest" player. Doesn't that deprive these kids of the many inherent lessons of the travel lacrosse experience? i.e. team work, hard work, camaraderie, life long friendships, etc.
Get the score right Brotherly Love 4. HB 2. Btw HB has beaten StoS the last three times they played.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Because hockey is very transparent at the youth elite level (like lacrosse should be), and BL has published player names on their website (to their credit), I have identified the elite hockey player this director speaks of and I can say his story is legit. I know the tournament he was at in MN and know kids who played there against him. He is a 2005 birth year player and plays up during the regular season, but plays on age for these elite summer tournaments. Kid is at the upper echelon for 2005s in North America in hockey, so he is as elite an athlete as they come, although I have no idea what his lax skills are. I know kids who play at this level of hockey (not mine, who are not good enough, which is no embarrassment mind you) and the year round commitment is intense, and leaves little time for other sports. The only thing this coach is guilty of is letting a part time player play on his team. That is all. (And before people freak out and tell me to "get a life", I am in a position where I know the elite hockey players at this age in the region and it took me about 5 seconds on google to figure this out - typing the post took longer)
People need to stop focusing/bashing these top teams. There are talented kids that aren't on any of these teams that will turn out just fine without having been on the Bandits or Express etc. Next year this could all look very different. None of you actually play the game, so let the kids have fun. I can't even imagine the egos and attitudes some of you are instilling in your kids!
One goal game with S2S at half and before the arrival of the mystery FOGO. HB parents are in denial.
The team is Express not HB anymore and they are about winning tournaments (which they had done in their two previous vs Laxachusetts and S2S) - they were bummed to lose to Bandits in a real close hard-fought game 4-3 - I wouldn't put much in the 3rd place game - who cares? MC was at the championship game vs Laxachusetts and saw the team humming - he's not about to change anything and I am sure feels lucky to have AJ! Btw I like BM!
S2S did not play to beat the Bandits they played to keep the game close and as pathetic as it sounds stalled in 5th grade lacrosse. they were not even trying to attack the cage and once the Bandits got up it got ugly. I believe our boys played the Bandits better than S2S because we played
really! a 5'9' 11 year old defender with a carpet of hair on his legs! did he start kindergarten when he was 8
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Rookie move responding to this nonsense. Btw, kids who are older always look like superior athletes.


Superior athletes! What a jack... They are 11. Speaks volumes of your organization!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Coach , I do believe you and admire those policies. If your new to this site do yourself a favor and don't bother reading this garbage. It's mostly jealous parents who are insecure about their own kids ability. You will rarely find a genuine post here. I read for entertainment and have unlimited data so wth. Enjoy the rest of the summer
I believe in the Easter Bunny
Earlier this summer, my son was playing the Brotherly Love "B" 2023 team and there were a few boys playing that our boys just couldn't stop. BL won the game (it was close can't remember the exact score). I watched a few boys run directly from the field over to the field where the Brotherly Love "A" team was playing. This was a tournament at USTC in June. My point is, I saw them cheat that day, and I guess it wouldn't surprise me if they cheated again.
The best thing I heard all game from Brotherly Love was the play called "cheesesteak". Btw 3 kids looked to coach to ask what they should do.
Where is BM going next year? Is the Warrior rumor true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Rookie move responding to this nonsense. Btw, kids who are older always look like superior athletes.


Superior athletes! What a jack... They are 11. Speaks volumes of your organization!


Superior athletes what a tool bag. Travel out to MD or LI people like this lead teams
hahahah just said they win because of better athletes but we can't teach them how to play lacrosse. just good athletes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This thread was forwarded to me by one of our parents.

As the Head Coach of 2023 and Co-Founder of Brotherly Love I take umbrage with the veiled insinuations of cheating. Our club just finished their second year since inception. Accusing a club of cheating primarily because two players had different colored shorts seems a bit overreaching. Ironically, the shorts in question were Brotherly Love colors, we simply have two versions of our game shorts. In future tournaments I am confident that you will never see BL players with the same shorts, instead we marshall our resources to wage a losing battle on wearing uniforms that don't reek.

Our club was founded on different tenets. All of our tournaments are a la carte and we encourage our players to play multiple sports, value their community team over their club team, and place a premium on family vacations over lacrosse tournaments. The player that didn't know the play that was called is an elite hockey player and had just driven back from a 10 day tournament in Minnesota. The two players (BL best poles) that left before the consolation game both held up family vacation plans and I thanked their families and encouraged them to get a head start on traffic as they both had vehicles packed and loaded with siblings. The other "large" guest player who wasn't there on Saturday and sleep walked through the first half of the semifinal game but finally woke up and started to dominate had driven all day to return from a wresting camp. None of these kids were guest players and every single one is both age and grade appropriate without a single player reclassed.

As a club we literallly have had a single season to improve and we didn't even start our tournament practices until June of this year. We expect our kids to honor their committments to their community teams. As cited, we will get better and will do it playing by the rules which judging by these messages there are alot of teams cheating.

Many of the teams on this list we have beaten. We don't beat them because we are better lacrosse players, that will come, we beat them because we have superior athletes.

We may be guilty of placing a premium on family, community, and encouraging athletic diversity, but we certainly aren't guilty of cheating.


Rookie move responding to this nonsense. Btw, kids who are older always look like superior athletes.


Superior athletes! What a jack... They are 11. Speaks volumes of your organization!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is BM going next year? Is the Warrior rumor true?

Outlaws
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is BM going next year? Is the Warrior rumor true?

Outlaws


The outlaw is going to the Outlaws!
S2S has a superior goalie. He keeps the team in almost every game and keeps them in the mix with the teams fighting for second place. This is a team game and the goalie is part of the team but remove the goalie and they are no longer in the mix.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S has a superior goalie. He keeps the team in almost every game and keeps them in the mix with the teams fighting for second place. This is a team game and the goalie is part of the team but remove the goalie and they are no longer in the mix.


That could be the most ridiculous statement ever. Take away the best player from any team at this age and they are off the list. For example:

Bandits - one middie makes the whole offense go. w/o him they don't win any games. Every possession starts with him. No one else can create on their own.

HBs - same

Igloo - 2 very good middies but take one away and they won't compete. They don't have the depth.

Sorry that S2S is making you a little nervous after only 1 season. But S2S and Igloo aren't going any where so HBs and Bandits get ready to hand over the torch - glad you dominated the 3rd and 4th grade...
I would agree. It would be very hard for them to compete with an empty net.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S has a superior goalie. He keeps the team in almost every game and keeps them in the mix with the teams fighting for second place. This is a team game and the goalie is part of the team but remove the goalie and they are no longer in the mix.

Very fair statement, team is average without him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is BM going next year? Is the Warrior rumor true?

Outlaws


The outlaw is going to the Outlaws!

Yup, they are lassoing him in. It must be a great day to be an Outlaw.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is BM going next year? Is the Warrior rumor true?

Outlaws


The outlaw is going to the Outlaws!

Yup, they are lassoing him in. It must be a great day to be an Outlaw.

Glad to hear because they need a shake up down on lefty.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's focus on the real Brotherly Love story. S2S beat their fully loaded team with all of the guest and visiting hockey players. HB Express lost 5-1 to Brotherly Love less all of those "extra" superior athletes. MC needs to save this team from falling further.



Only answer is to bring back BM. That team is just not the same without him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The team is Express not HB anymore and they are about winning tournaments (which they had done in their two previous vs Laxachusetts and S2S) - they were bummed to lose to Bandits in a real close hard-fought game 4-3 - I wouldn't put much in the 3rd place game - who cares? MC was at the championship game vs Laxachusetts and saw the team humming - he's not about to change anything and I am sure feels lucky to have AJ! Btw I like BM!

They are not about winning tournaments? Are you a moron?? I like AJ but he's no BM. Pretty easy to see that.
I'm a HB parent and I am very lucky to be a part of this team. I think AJ is doing a great job but, there is no doubt that we are missing something special with BM not on our sidelines. I read alot about how the team does not need him but will tell you tnat is not the majority speaking. AJ is a great guy and so is BM. It is just very unfortunate that the Express organization could not let things be so they both would coach next year. I can tell you My son misses him and would love having him back.
From what i hear, big shakeup coming to Express 1. Heads-up to the parents of kids on the lower half of the roster. Better try-out at a few other places. Your son will be moving on. AJ can't save you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
From what i hear, big shakeup coming to Express 1. Heads-up to the parents of kids on the lower half of the roster. Better try-out at a few other places. Your son will be moving on. AJ can't save you.


Thanks for the tip Pops. Isn't that what all or most top club programs do ?? Look for the best each year. That's why there's usually 100+ at the tryouts. If a better kid comes along ......see ya.
Lol. BM for President. He's loving watching his old team squirm because he's staying in S Huntington with the skull and cross bones.
What's up with Empire and Futures?
Nobody cares about empire. They consider themselves the B team . And that's fine
empire offense not as good as defense. B+ team
Everybody is replaceable. Including BM. What's he a God. You people are pathetic , get a life. It's kids lax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everybody is replaceable. Including BM. What's he a God. You people are pathetic , get a life. It's kids lax.


I spoke to PB. BM is not going to Outlaws. He's obviously putting his own name out there to stir the pot. So pathetic and transparent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
empire offense not as good as defense. B+ team


And even the defense isn't that good. Average at best. The got beat by every A team last year, how good could they be. Why do you think they won't play anyone this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's up with Empire and Futures?


Supposedly guy who runs futures is helping find staff/coaches for empires Nassau venture. Not sure what else this would entail.
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.
Is Empire playing up at Stowe this weekend? Seems like a lot of teams they can beat. Probably get some nice t-shirts and maple syrup.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's up with Empire and Futures?


Supposedly guy who runs futures is helping find staff/coaches for empires Nassau venture. Not sure what else this would entail.


Is Futures even a thing anymore? Saw them play a few times this year and they were a mess and had 1 or 2 subs. Looked like a pick up team.

Would love to see how Empire is going to attract talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm a HB parent and I am very lucky to be a part of this team. I think AJ is doing a great job but, there is no doubt that we are missing something special with BM not on our sidelines. I read alot about how the team does not need him but will tell you tnat is not the majority speaking. AJ is a great guy and so is BM. It is just very unfortunate that the Express organization could not let things be so they both would coach next year. I can tell you My son misses him and would love having him back.



All the I and we you are using? Are you on the team? You sound a little too invested, I thought it was the kids who participated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everybody is replaceable. Including BM. What's he a God. You people are pathetic , get a life. It's kids lax.


I spoke to PB. BM is not going to Outlaws. He's obviously putting his own name out there to stir the pot. So pathetic and transparent.


That's how he operates.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everybody is replaceable. Including BM. What's he a God. You people are pathetic , get a life. It's kids lax.


I spoke to PB. BM is not going to Outlaws. He's obviously putting his own name out there to stir the pot. So pathetic and transparent.


That's how he operates.

Nobody spoke to PB. It's a great day to be an Outlaw.
Let me guess - your kid didn't see the field in the 4-3 loss to Bandits and you want BM back?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.

You're right. Outlaws need BM to make that Attack better, or they'll never win any A championships.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.

You're right. Outlaws need BM to make that Attack better, or they'll never win any A championships.


BM not going to Outlaws. He's been blackballed because he is poison. He is insulting and verbally abusive to parents and kids. That's why he's texting every coach out there to try to get back in, but no one will entertain the offer. I hope you all realize that all of these "pro-BM" comments are coming from the man himself.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.


Empire played up in the 6th grade division at Westchester War Games (a B tournament but a good one) and won it, although they lost a game in pool play. My kid has played against them. They are no doubt the best "B" team I have seen at 2023. Hard to imagine they are not good enough to compete at A. Some of these A tournaments/brackets have teams that are getting killed. Empire can certainly beat these teams and go 1-3 or something like that in an A division. I would think they can have a good summer mixing it up - some tournaments at 2023 A, some at 2022 B, and maybe one at 2023 B.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's up with Empire and Futures?


Supposedly guy who runs futures is helping find staff/coaches for empires Nassau venture. Not sure what else this would entail.


Is Futures even a thing anymore? Saw them play a few times this year and they were a mess and had 1 or 2 subs. Looked like a pick up team.

Would love to see how Empire is going to attract talent.


A lot of s2s and 91 helmets at a spring tourney so I guess they are short #'s for most events. Can't imagine empire in nassau will get off the ground fast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.

You're right. Outlaws need BM to make that Attack better, or they'll never win any A championships.


BM not going to Outlaws. He's been blackballed because he is poison. He is insulting and verbally abusive to parents and kids. That's why he's texting every coach out there to try to get back in, but no one will entertain the offer. I hope you all realize that all of these "pro-BM" comments are coming from the man himself.



Actually; my kid starts on the Badgers
Looking for some constructive feedback for a team for my son. Had been playing town ball but he wants to step it up. From research based on where we live and where teams practice I was hoping someone could offer insight. Looking for a b team with good coaching and environment. Without having to travel far.

The 2 express b teams-we are close to where they practice usually and St anthonys is doable. Money grab aside and that's a whole other consideration, how are the coaches and team and families?

Bluefish-hofstra close to my work so not bad. Same questions. I did hear from a parent kids/families great but didn't start practicing til late and coaching could have been better.

Don't know who else in central nassau could be recommended.

Looking for good environment and coaches to learn and grow with.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Attack stinks. Will never win in A.


Not with empire, but how do they win? They play a and they lose and everyone says they are bad, they play b and everyone yells at them for winning.


Empire played up in the 6th grade division at Westchester War Games (a B tournament but a good one) and won it, although they lost a game in pool play. My kid has played against them. They are no doubt the best "B" team I have seen at 2023. Hard to imagine they are not good enough to compete at A. Some of these A tournaments/brackets have teams that are getting killed. Empire can certainly beat these teams and go 1-3 or something like that in an A division. I would think they can have a good summer mixing it up - some tournaments at 2023 A, some at 2022 B, and maybe one at 2023 B.

Sounds good but the problem with 90% of the clubs is that they on start to practice in the spring. The better clubs have 3x the practice.
S2S goalie was hurt for most of the spring and the team performed well without him. He is very good, but the team has many parts. Defense is very strong, very good fogo, a few good middies. If this team adds a few more parts watch out.
All this noise about BM coaching. I spoke to him a few hours ago. He has no
plans to coach. He's enjoying the summer with his family and not even thinking about Lax. So crazy how all you people post such garbage about people yet, none of it is accurate. Get lives!!!!
Did S2S play and beat anybody good without the starting goalie? Didn't they lose badly to laxachusetts?
I'm confused, who is the coach of the HB's??

Is it AJ? Or AH?

Is AJ, AH?

Or

Is AJ an AH?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S goalie was hurt for most of the spring and the team performed well without him. He is very good, but the team has many parts. Defense is very strong, very good fogo, a few good middies. If this team adds a few more parts watch out.

Will S2S actually hold a tryout? Can see it now, bring in some "Independent" evaluators to provide coverage for possible upgrades. Trouble in paradise.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm confused, who is the coach of the HB's??

Is it AJ? Or AH?

Is AJ, AH?

Or

Is AJ an AH?

it'll be BM since Outlaws doesn't want him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S goalie was hurt for most of the spring and the team performed well without him. He is very good, but the team has many parts. Defense is very strong, very good fogo, a few good middies. If this team adds a few more parts watch out.

Will S2S actually hold a tryout? Can see it now, bring in some "Independent" evaluators to provide coverage for possible upgrades. Trouble in paradise.


They are going to have to eventually. These kids were hand picked and they are good players but not the best. Loyalty will falter just like in any program.
They are going to have to eventually. These kids were hand picked and they are good players but not the best. Loyalty will falter just like in any program. [/quote]

No team has all of the best players as evidenced by the parity in the grade this year. All of the teams are really close in talent - one or two additions or subtractions could change the balance of any of these teams: Igloo, Bandits, HBs, S2S
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for some constructive feedback for a team for my son. Had been playing town ball but he wants to step it up. From research based on where we live and where teams practice I was hoping someone could offer insight. Looking for a b team with good coaching and environment. Without having to travel far.

The 2 express b teams-we are close to where they practice usually and St anthonys is doable. Money grab aside and that's a whole other consideration, how are the coaches and team and families?

Bluefish-hofstra close to my work so not bad. Same questions. I did hear from a parent kids/families great but didn't start practicing til late and coaching could have been better.

Don't know who else in central nassau could be recommended.

Looking for good environment and coaches to learn and grow with.

Thanks



Our son is on Bluefish now and we have been very disappointed with almost everything. We are also looking around. Heard some good things about Recon and spoke to a few of the parents and they have been very happy. Spoke to a couple of families on the Express teams, got some mixed reviews. Looked in to True Blue, very mixed reviews from the couple of parents I spoke to, seemed to be if you are from Massapequa and play for the Mohawks, you had a good time, if you are an outsider, you didn't. 24 is a new club, but it is based on a 2024 team that we saw at JDRF with 2023 players on the field. That club doesn't seem to be starting off on the right track already.

Good luck to you and your son. Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for some constructive feedback for a team for my son. Had been playing town ball but he wants to step it up. From research based on where we live and where teams practice I was hoping someone could offer insight. Looking for a b team with good coaching and environment. Without having to travel far.

The 2 express b teams-we are close to where they practice usually and St anthonys is doable. Money grab aside and that's a whole other consideration, how are the coaches and team and families?

Bluefish-hofstra close to my work so not bad. Same questions. I did hear from a parent kids/families great but didn't start practicing til late and coaching could have been better.

Don't know who else in central nassau could be recommended.

Looking for good environment and coaches to learn and grow with.

Thanks



Our son is on Bluefish now and we have been very disappointed with almost everything. We are also looking around. Heard some good things about Recon and spoke to a few of the parents and they have been very happy. Spoke to a couple of families on the Express teams, got some mixed reviews. Looked in to True Blue, very mixed reviews from the couple of parents I spoke to, seemed to be if you are from Massapequa and play for the Mohawks, you had a good time, if you are an outsider, you didn't. 24 is a new club, but it is based on a 2024 team that we saw at JDRF with 2023 players on the field. That club doesn't seem to be starting off on the right track already.

Good luck to you and your son. Hope this helps.

The best alternative centrally is Outlaws and Recon. Out east would be Empire and Leh-ga-c
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]24 is a new club, but it is based on a 2024 team that we saw at JDRF with 2023 players on the field. That club doesn't seem to be starting off on the right track already.

Good luck to you and your son. Hope this helps.


No, they don't seem to be starting off on the right foot by using 2023's in 2024 games. Not a good way to gain steam with a new club!
2/3 of the S2S coaches are dad's, will probably bring in little buddies best friend as additions
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2/3 of the S2S coaches are dad's, will probably bring in little buddies best friend as additions


They RVC kids will get ousted first. The Manhasset kids will get preferance
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
2/3 of the S2S coaches are dad's, will probably bring in little buddies best friend as additions


They RVC kids will get ousted first. The Manhasset kids will get preferance


Isn't the goalie from RVC?
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Looking for some constructive feedback for a team for my son. Had been playing town ball but he wants to step it up. From research based on where we live and where teams practice I was hoping someone could offer insight. Looking for a b team with good coaching and environment. Without having to travel far.

The 2 express b teams-we are close to where they practice usually and St anthonys is doable. Money grab aside and that's a whole other consideration, how are the coaches and team and families?

Bluefish-hofstra close to my work so not bad. Same questions. I did hear from a parent kids/families great but didn't start practicing til late and coaching could have been better.

Don't know who else in central nassau could be recommended.

Looking for good environment and coaches to learn and grow with.

Thanks



Our son is on Bluefish now and we have been very disappointed with almost everything. We are also looking around. Heard some good things about Recon and spoke to a few of the parents and they have been very happy. Spoke to a couple of families on the Express teams, got some mixed reviews. Looked in to True Blue, very mixed reviews from the couple of parents I spoke to, seemed to be if you are from Massapequa and play for the Mohawks, you had a good time, if you are an outsider, you didn't. 24 is a new club, but it is based on a 2024 team that we saw at JDRF with 2023 players on the field. That club doesn't seem to be starting off on the right track already.

Good luck to you and your son. Hope this helps.

The best alternative centrally is Outlaws and Recon. Out east would be Empire and Leh-ga-c


Depends what express does next year with roster and #s. Supposedly 2nd team will be retooling with less kids and better back end to give Channy jr a better team. 3rd team who knows. Looked tough on them all year. We played them a couple times. Not that my sons team was much better but a lot to pay for the results although I was told the coach is a good guy and looked like he made the most of it.

Bluefishes first year so room to grow I guess.
Funny comment on S2S....Express HB is 100% parent coaches...yes AJ has a kid on the team. This is the joke of the Express, team hasn't changed because of coaches are friends with the parents. BM wanted to make changes with the team, but parents headed it off by complaining MC. S2S does have a head coach who is not a parent. The objectivity that is associated with having a non parent head coach is priceless.
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2/3 of the S2S coaches are dad's, will probably bring in little buddies best friend as additions


They RVC kids will get ousted first. The Manhasset kids will get preferance


Isn't the goalie from RVC?


Believe me the RVC kids play second fiddle to the Manhasset kids. You will see thing start to change.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
2/3 of the S2S coaches are dad's, will probably bring in little buddies best friend as additions


They RVC kids will get ousted first. The Manhasset kids will get preferance


Isn't the goalie from RVC?


Always a spot for a good goalie. They aren't a dime a dozen. Everyone else is easily replaced.
Recon is all Levittown coaches and most of the team is from Levittown/ wantagh. They have favorites so your kid may not play that much .
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Recon is all Levittown coaches and most of the team is from Levittown/ wantagh. They have favorites so your kid may not play that much .

Dude, they're a b/c team. Any upgrade is welcomed.
I love it when a dad makes a post to keep his son's spot.
Recon isn't Levittown/wantagh because my Massapequa son plays. There is also Bethpage and Freeport kids among others. Know what you are talking about or ask questions.
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Recon isn't Levittown/wantagh because my Massapequa son plays. There is also Bethpage and Freeport kids among others. Know what you are talking about or ask questions.


Where do they practice???
Badgers got spanked today. Warriors look great and lost by one goal and of course the Bandits showed them the real deal. Sink any further?? Kids will be looking elsewhere since the magic is long gone.
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Badgers got spanked today. Warriors look great and lost by one goal and of course the Bandits showed them the real deal. Sink any further?? Kids will be looking elsewhere since the magic is long gone.


Warriors played against the weakest teams, they lost against any good team. I guess it's nice to play in a tournament set up by your own organization to give you the easy schedule.
No the S2S Goalie is a Set kid
Warriors and Empire Green are the two teams that like to play B teams. Can't win a game in A but think they deserved to be called good team for winning B. Very embarrassing if I'm a parent watching this.Both teams will be smoked in a real tournament.
Ton of knowledge in this post! Warriors are a B Team, second to the Bandits. Have never played in a "B" bracket since the team started 3 years ago. Chose to enter as many challenging tournaments as possible regardless of the outcome. Played some OK games, some good games and some great games this summer. I know for a fact that the boys got better and had fun doing it.

Empire Green is a second year team. I would say they didn't really see any of the top tier 2023 teams this summer. But regardless of what people think, they are a really solid team.

I would also love to hear what a REAL tournament is in your opinion...

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Ton of knowledge in this post! Warriors are a B Team, second to the Bandits. Have never played in a "B" bracket since the team started 3 years ago. Chose to enter as many challenging tournaments as possible regardless of the outcome. Played some OK games, some good games and some great games this summer. I know for a fact that the boys got better and had fun doing it.

Empire Green is a second year team. I would say they didn't really see any of the top tier 2023 teams this summer. But regardless of what people think, they are a really solid team.

I would also love to hear what a REAL tournament is in your opinion...

Thanks Warrior dad!
What is happening with Icon this year? Do we think a lot of the 2023 kids are bailing?
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Warriors and Empire Green are the two teams that like to play B teams. Can't win a game in A but think they deserved to be called good team for winning B. Very embarrassing if I'm a parent watching this.Both teams will be smoked in a real tournament.


I wasn't going to respond, but this post is so utterly idiotic that I had to. Last season, the Warriors won a lot of softer tournaments. This year they won less, but played in the best and most difficult tournaments available. They have yet to beat Igloo, Badgers or Bandits, this is true; however, they have played them to a goal or two on several occasions (that means the games were exciting and competitive). And to say they're playing in B tournaments, you're a moron. That statement officially makes you an imbecile. They have faced the best teams in the country on a weekly basis. Win or lose, as a parent, that's what you want. That's what you pay for. That's how the boys improve. I would rather my son's team loses to the Badgers in overtime at the top tournament of the summer than win a t-shirt at a softer tourney any day.
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Badgers got spanked today. Warriors look great and lost by one goal and of course the Bandits showed them the real deal. Sink any further?? Kids will be looking elsewhere since the magic is long gone.


Warriors played against the weakest teams, they lost against any good team. I guess it's nice to play in a tournament set up by your own organization to give you the easy schedule.


Laxachusettes Green and Suoerstar were the weakest teams and their organization didn't run the tourney. Do some research and find out what NLF is.
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Warriors and Empire Green are the two teams that like to play B teams. Can't win a game in A but think they deserved to be called good team for winning B. Very embarrassing if I'm a parent watching this.Both teams will be smoked in a real tournament.


I wasn't going to respond, but this post is so utterly idiotic that I had to. Last season, the Warriors won a lot of softer tournaments. This year they won less, but played in the best and most difficult tournaments available. They have yet to beat Igloo, Badgers or Bandits, this is true; however, they have played them to a goal or two on several occasions (that means the games were exciting and competitive). And to say they're playing in B tournaments, you're a moron. That statement officially makes you an imbecile. They have faced the best teams in the country on a weekly basis. Win or lose, as a parent, that's what you want. That's what you pay for. That's how the boys improve. I would rather my son's team loses to the Badgers in overtime at the top tournament of the summer than win a t-shirt at a softer tourney any day.


Well said. Warriors are getting better and better. Badgers have made no
Improvment from last year. Where are loud mouth HB parents or MC now after they lose yet another tournament with a 1 goal lose to the Warriors and an a$$ kicking by the Bandits yet again. The gap between the Bandits and Badgers has widened and the gap between the Badgers and the Warriors is closing fast.
So Express top team barely beats Warriors (2nd team in club) and gets destroyed by Bandits (1st team in club)? Fair to say Express at this level has fallen far?
Will we see coaching change? I'm sure weaker kids on team hoping no to save their spot. But seems likely
Serious question. How does Express play Bandits within a goal earlier this month and then lose by double digits? Shouldn't outcomes be a bit more consistent? Not stirring pot just wondering why such a big difference. Were kids missing from either team? Do 1 or 2 missing kids make an impact? Or did coaches change gameplan to adjust?
Three games between the two first and last were similar 10 plus goal games the middle one close. Guessing the middle one got the Bandits players and coaches attention
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Serious question. How does Express play Bandits within a goal earlier this month and then lose by double digits? Shouldn't outcomes be a bit more consistent? Not stirring pot just wondering why such a big difference. Were kids missing from either team? Do 1 or 2 missing kids make an impact? Or did coaches change gameplan to adjust?


Well they are 11 years old. It is kinda their job to be inconsistent.

I'm sure I sound like an old fart when I say this, but I assure you that the scores of these games don't matter.

If you have a son on one of these teams, your only concern is if he is playing, improving and having fun.

If you don't have a son on one of these teams and care about the score, you are a creeper and I promise you that you will realize it someday.

great coaches are constantly adjusting their team and their plays so they can win. Bandits have played HB before and I'm sure have identified the weaknesses and planned accordingly. Say what you will about JS -- but he is a smart coach who constantly changes things up so they are unpredictable and usually unbeatable!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question. How does Express play Bandits within a goal earlier this month and then lose by double digits? Shouldn't outcomes be a bit more consistent? Not stirring pot just wondering why such a big difference. Were kids missing from either team? Do 1 or 2 missing kids make an impact? Or did coaches change gameplan to adjust?


Well they are 11 years old. It is kinda their job to be inconsistent.

I'm sure I sound like an old fart when I say this, but I assure you that the scores of these games don't matter.

If you have a son on one of these teams, your only concern is if he is playing, improving and having fun.

If you don't have a son on one of these teams and care about the score, you are a creeper and I promise you that you will realize it someday.



So true
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So Express top team barely beats Warriors (2nd team in club) and gets destroyed by Bandits (1st team in club)? Fair to say Express at this level has fallen far?
Will we see coaching change? I'm sure weaker kids on team hoping no to save their spot. But seems likely

BM we are bringing you back. Are you available?
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Recon is all Levittown coaches and most of the team is from Levittown/ wantagh. They have favorites so your kid may not play that much .


It's great when you get a comment like this. Coaches play the kids that give them the best chance to win. We played against Recon at Forsberg and they played every kid on their team. I looked over at first and thought that is a lot of kids, but they made it work. As someone who coached HS lax, when it comes to playing time, it's always tough. Coaches usually go to the kids they can trust when the game is on the line. Does that mean these coaches go with the players that they know or have coached for more than 6 or 8 weeks of summer lacrosse, maybe. It's all a balancing act nowadays. Parents are always ready to blame the coach instead of looking at their kid in an objective manner. It is the way society and sports is going and another reason many good coaches are hanging it up.
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Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.

Just curious to see why Duke's Nationals isn't in this list? At Patriot Games yesterday they lost a 1 goal championship to Igloo and at Lehigh in June they lost the championship in OT to S2S after having soundly beaten S2S in pool play.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers got spanked today. Warriors look great and lost by one goal and of course the Bandits showed them the real deal. Sink any further?? Kids will be looking elsewhere since the magic is long gone.


Warriors played against the weakest teams, they lost against any good team. I guess it's nice to play in a tournament set up by your own organization to give you the easy schedule.


Laxachusettes Green and Suoerstar were the weakest teams and their organization didn't run the tourney. Do some research and find out what NLF is.


What a joke- the nlf is run by several organizations- one of them fields the warrior team,therefore they do have input as who to play and not to play giving the Warriors a cushy schedule. You are right they haven't beat any top team and won't until they play the top teams on a consistent basis, you see what happens when they do play them - they lose
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.

Just curious to see why Duke's Nationals isn't in this list? At Patriot Games yesterday they lost a 1 goal championship to Igloo and at Lehigh in June they lost the championship in OT to S2S after having soundly beaten S2S in pool play.


They're good. But, I think because they are just a mishmash of a bunch of kids that play on other travel clubs, they're not considered a true team. Considering that "hired guns" model, they should actually be substantially better than they are. Plus, video camera dad is so irratating that everyone hates the team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 6 2023:

Bandits - no longer way out front. In the pack with everyone else. 3-2 yesterday in the championship game against S2S. S2S dominated the first half. All of a sudden they bring in a kid who has a completely different helmet, no name on the back of his jersey, and he wins every single face-off and they control the whole 2nd half and win 7-2. This kid didn't step on the field in the first half. Seems a little fishy JS? Typical 91...

HBs - good solid team. AJ doing the right thing. This team will be better because of it and the players will become better lacrosse players. Let BM go someplace else - it won't be long before he wears out his welcome there as well. This team does not need BM.

Igloo - coaches are jerks. Some good talent though. Beat the Bandits and are definitely in the top group. 1 or 2 defections and they are done. 1 or 2 additions and they are really good.

S2S - first year program that has impressed. Only losses this season were to HBs, Laxachusetts Black and yesterday to Bandits. 100% in this group.

Laxachusetts Black - basically a 3 man team - goalie, big lefty (if he is 11 god bless him - looks like he is 14) and the lefty attackman. Good coaching and they play hard.

Crabs - won Young Guns beating Igloo by 1. Not sure what other tournaments they play in but sure seems like they are ducking the competition. Not sure why - knowing the crabs organization, I'm sure all the 2023 kids drive themselves to the tournaments...

On the cusp:

Brothery Love - brought in 2 guest players yesterday in the playoffs - different color shorts, the coaches and kids on their own team didn't know their names - comical to hear the coach call out a play and have the kids say he doesn't know it! Funny how those 2 didn't play in the consolation game - guess it didn't matter. This team is good - don't resort to cheating. Work to get better.

91 Warriors - didn't hide. Played everyone. Really challenged themselves. Results weren't great but they definitely got better because of it.

Bethesda - beat HBs, smoked by Laxachusetts, but solid. Can play with anyone.

Just curious to see why Duke's Nationals isn't in this list? At Patriot Games yesterday they lost a 1 goal championship to Igloo and at Lehigh in June they lost the championship in OT to S2S after having soundly beaten S2S in pool play.


They're good. But, I think because they are just a mishmash of a bunch of kids that play on other travel clubs, they're not considered a true team. Considering that "hired guns" model, they should actually be substantially better than they are. Plus, video camera dad is so irratating that everyone hates the team.
I will fully admit to being a father of one of the "hired guns" and can tell you that the boys get together once a month for mini-camp practices and work very hard to try to be as cohesive as possible. The overall experience for the boys seems to be one that they very much appreciate. Plus the quality play is quite high.

I find it hard to understand how people wouldn't see them as a "true team", but to each their own, I guess.
Agree. Different players show up depending on who they play and when their 2022 team is playing. How is it they tie HB but lose to a Rochester team by 5 goals. No one takes a team like that seriously
The Warriors have been together for a while yet are over-shadowed by their big brother Bandits. Warriors show growth each year and are a good, competitive team. Empire green, again, is a second year organization that plays in the tournaments they are placed in. Are they an A level team? No....not yet. Still need some pieces but they are forming a good foundation and are competitive. More like a B+ team at this point. As a parent you just want to see the kids have fun, grow, and learn the game and at the same time be shielded from the idiotic remarks and bashing of crazy parents.
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Agree. Different players show up depending on who they play and when their 2022 team is playing. How is it they tie HB but lose to a Rochester team by 5 goals. No one takes a team like that seriously
If you're referring to the Duke's Nationals team, I can tell you that the core roster is set. There may be players who come in for evaluations and ultimately make the team, but how is that any different than any other team having tryouts? The organization absolutely does not bring in "hired guns" meaning players just for a tournament. It is communicated from the beginning that if you accept a position you are expected to give priority to Nationals as your primary club.
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Badgers got spanked today. Warriors look great and lost by one goal and of course the Bandits showed them the real deal. Sink any further?? Kids will be looking elsewhere since the magic is long gone.


Warriors played against the weakest teams, they lost against any good team. I guess it's nice to play in a tournament set up by your own organization to give you the easy schedule.


Laxachusettes Green and Suoerstar were the weakest teams and their organization didn't run the tourney. Do some research and find out what NLF is.


What a joke- the nlf is run by several organizations- one of them fields the warrior team,therefore they do have input as who to play and not to play giving the Warriors a cushy schedule. You are right they haven't beat any top team and won't until they play the top teams on a consistent basis, you see what happens when they do play them - they lose


But you will crap on them if they go b and kill everyone. What would you like them to do?
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So Express top team barely beats Warriors (2nd team in club) and gets destroyed by Bandits (1st team in club)? Fair to say Express at this level has fallen far?
Will we see coaching change? I'm sure weaker kids on team hoping no to save their spot. But seems likely


If Express gets no credit for playing Bandits to within one goal, then Warriors get no credit for playing Express to within one goal. Sorry, you have to treat them the same. But it seems you want to pick on it from both ends to create the story you want to create. Nice try but it doesn't work that way.
Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express top team barely beats Warriors (2nd team in club) and gets destroyed by Bandits (1st team in club)? Fair to say Express at this level has fallen far?
Will we see coaching change? I'm sure weaker kids on team hoping no to save their spot. But seems likely

BM we are bringing you back. Are you available?


Alrhough Sunday's game was close and exciting for the Warriors, on Saturday Express beat warriors 12-3. The time before that at Tri-Star Express beat Warriors 11-3. They also beat them pretty good in the spring when they faced off.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Express top team barely beats Warriors (2nd team in club) and gets destroyed by Bandits (1st team in club)? Fair to say Express at this level has fallen far?
Will we see coaching change? I'm sure weaker kids on team hoping no to save their spot. But seems likely

BM we are bringing you back. Are you available?


Alrhough Sunday's game was close and exciting for the Warriors, on Saturday Express beat warriors 12-3. The time before that at Tri-Star Express beat Warriors 11-3. They also beat them pretty good in the spring when they faced off.


They won by 2 goals in the spring after playing from behind for most of the game. You're very bitter after being cut by the Warriors and then getting no PT and quitting Empire. Let it go.
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.
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Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I didn't read anyone comparing Warriors to any other team. I read that they are improving and playing very good lacrosse against the top teams in the country. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Why are you so angry? You should probably be getting your kid ready for tryouts.
My son played on Recon this year, was a first year team. Was very happy, future looks very bright for this bunch if they stay together>
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Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.


You are a dope and your view of 2023 lax is delusional. Badgers are a B team???? Really??? That's what you're going with??? Idiot. Plain and simple, you're an idiot.
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Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks

Unless your son is gifted, he will not make the select "A" team. That team has been together for 3 years or so IIRC. So if you don't mind going into tryouts knowing he is only going to qualify for the second tier team, spend your money.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks

Unless your son is gifted, he will not make the select "A" team. That team has been together for 3 years or so IIRC. So if you don't mind going into tryouts knowing he is only going to qualify for the second tier team, spend your money.


There is nothing wrong with being part of the 2nd team. If this your son's first time playing travel then you have to ask yourself what's best for him. Is it being the 7th or 8th player on his line getting spot minutes per game for your money or being in the first or second line on the second teams and getting better.
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.
Why Recon they are a 1st year team?
Recon is made up of Levittown, Wantagh, Plainview, Massapequa,Freeport, Bethpage. They are a solid B team. My son is on the team and i do not see any favoritism.
Yes there are a lot of kids on the Recon team 28 i believe and they all get in every game pretty much evenly.
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Why Recon they are a 1st year team?


Are you asking why they are a first year team?
They never had a 2023 team before. My son plays for them. He loves the coaches and spending time with his teammates. From the parents perspective I was afraid of play time because of the number of kids but they do a great job getting every kid play time. There are 2 main coaches and usually 2 others that help on game days. They are all nice guys and work hard. The negative side for me would be that I would like to see more practices. 1, sometimes 2 a week I feel isn't enough but that's my opinion. The indoor training they do for conditioning all winter is great though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.


You are a dope and your view of 2023 lax is delusional. Badgers are a B team???? Really??? That's what you're going with??? Idiot. Plain and simple, you're an idiot.



If Badgers are the A, Bsdgers must be the B. Simple as that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.

Only change in HB team was that BM was not there driving the winning attitude. The best kids played under his coaching. Now, Kids are not held accountable and some kids are on the team as a favor and others are starting as a favor. Losing BM was a huge hit to our teams success this year. No Doubt. AJ is a good guy but you cannot argue that BM was missed.
The Express roster needs to turnover. No attack men, defense men. A few good middies. Need a coach, not parent. There would be no S2S if AJ would have looked at other players, now S2S is in a position to overtake the Express. I am a frustrated Express parent. MC please help us!!
Igloo coach PS best of the bunch
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express roster needs to turnover. No attack men, defense men. A few good middies. Need a coach, not parent. There would be no S2S if AJ would have looked at other players, now S2S is in a position to overtake the Express. I am a frustrated Express parent. MC please help us!!


My only cares about the dollars!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why Recon they are a 1st year team?


Are you asking why they are a first year team?
They never had a 2023 team before. My son plays for them. He loves the coaches and spending time with his teammates. From the parents perspective I was afraid of play time because of the number of kids but they do a great job getting every kid play time. There are 2 main coaches and usually 2 others that help on game days. They are all nice guys and work hard. The negative side for me would be that I would like to see more practices. 1, sometimes 2 a week I feel isn't enough but that's my opinion. The indoor training they do for conditioning all winter is great though.


Where do they practice?
What do we think about Icon for this year?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express roster needs to turnover. No attack men, defense men. A few good middies. Need a coach, not parent. There would be no S2S if AJ would have looked at other players, now S2S is in a position to overtake the Express. I am a frustrated Express parent. MC please help us!!


Get some sack and call MC yourself. Guessing by all you exclamation points this is a mom. (Of a middie.)

This team sounds like a hornets nest of back stabbing parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.


That exactly correct. If any of these morons had older kids that have been through it before they would know. Most kids don't play travel lax in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade. Once the real kids without crazy parents start playing, the field levels out dramatically. Yes, bandits are tops and probably will remain there because a lot of parents will play their kids out of position so they can go to Denver (although only 12 kids will realistically get any tv time), but the rest is a crap shoot. Badgers, S2S, Warriors, and Igloo will all be different teams next year. Some will lose their best players and some won't bring enough new talent in to compete. Either way, all of those teams are going to be grinding it out and beating each other up for the next few years. Good competitive lax never made a kid worse, so they should all worry less about being on the best team and more about finding the team that suits their son's need best.
Which Outlaws team will be playing in Lax Clash this weekend?
Outlaws Black
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Express roster needs to turnover. No attack men, defense men. A few good middies. Need a coach, not parent. There would be no S2S if AJ would have looked at other players, now S2S is in a position to overtake the Express. I am a frustrated Express parent. MC please help us!!


Call the Devil himself? MC destroys more good teams than not. He's seriously the worse lacrosse coach out there. He misses tons of practices and has other people run them. He promises the world and doesn't deliver. Always worried about getting paid on the side. He is not the answer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.


That exactly correct. If any of these morons had older kids that have been through it before they would know. Most kids don't play travel lax in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade. Once the real kids without crazy parents start playing, the field levels out dramatically. Yes, bandits are tops and probably will remain there because a lot of parents will play their kids out of position so they can go to Denver (although only 12 kids will realistically get any tv time), but the rest is a crap shoot. Badgers, S2S, Warriors, and Igloo will all be different teams next year. Some will lose their best players and some won't bring enough new talent in to compete. Either way, all of those teams are going to be grinding it out and beating each other up for the next few years. Good competitive lax never made a kid worse, so they should all worry less about being on the best team and more about finding the team that suits their son's need best.


Exactly. Bandits area A team, Badgers are a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.


You are a dope and your view of 2023 lax is delusional. Badgers are a B team???? Really??? That's what you're going with??? Idiot. Plain and simple, you're an idiot.


I Bandits represent what an A level team is, then it's only proper to tag the Badgers as a B team. They don't come consistently close to beating them. They had closer games in previous years and never lost by such large margins. Bandits improved on their status of being an A team and the Badgers slipped to a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.


You are a dope and your view of 2023 lax is delusional. Badgers are a B team???? Really??? That's what you're going with??? Idiot. Plain and simple, you're an idiot.


I Bandits represent what an A level team is, then it's only proper to tag the Badgers as a B team. They don't come consistently close to beating them. They had closer games in previous years and never lost by such large margins. Bandits improved on their status of being an A team and the Badgers slipped to a B team.
BM you are going to get carpel tunnel with the amount of typing you do on this site!

99% of Express hate is guess who ... BM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you trying to say that express 1 (badgers) playing 91 1 (bandits) to within 1 goal is same as 91 2 (warriors) playing Express 1 (badgers) to within 1 goal? I hope you are not so dumb that you can't see how it's different.
But in case you can't, between badgers and warriors, only one of these teams is the top 2023 team for its club.


I means the Badgers got lucky once against a team they should be playing to a 1 to 2 goal game every time. Maybe better said; Badgers are now a B team. Slip from grace. AJ might have been a great player but sucks as a coach.


You are a dope and your view of 2023 lax is delusional. Badgers are a B team???? Really??? That's what you're going with??? Idiot. Plain and simple, you're an idiot.



If Badgers are the A, Bsdgers must be the B. Simple as that.


That makes perfect sense. Thanks for clearing that up. Moron.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.


That exactly correct. If any of these morons had older kids that have been through it before they would know. Most kids don't play travel lax in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade. Once the real kids without crazy parents start playing, the field levels out dramatically. Yes, bandits are tops and probably will remain there because a lot of parents will play their kids out of position so they can go to Denver (although only 12 kids will realistically get any tv time), but the rest is a crap shoot. Badgers, S2S, Warriors, and Igloo will all be different teams next year. Some will lose their best players and some won't bring enough new talent in to compete. Either way, all of those teams are going to be grinding it out and beating each other up for the next few years. Good competitive lax never made a kid worse, so they should all worry less about being on the best team and more about finding the team that suits their son's need best.


Exactly. Bandits area A team, Badgers are a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.


That exactly correct. If any of these morons had older kids that have been through it before they would know. Most kids don't play travel lax in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade. Once the real kids without crazy parents start playing, the field levels out dramatically. Yes, bandits are tops and probably will remain there because a lot of parents will play their kids out of position so they can go to Denver (although only 12 kids will realistically get any tv time), but the rest is a crap shoot. Badgers, S2S, Warriors, and Igloo will all be different teams next year. Some will lose their best players and some won't bring enough new talent in to compete. Either way, all of those teams are going to be grinding it out and beating each other up for the next few years. Good competitive lax never made a kid worse, so they should all worry less about being on the best team and more about finding the team that suits their son's need best.


Exactly. Bandits area A team, Badgers are a B team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't take the bait. Obviously Express 1 is not a "B" team. But objectively they are no where near as dominant as they were over past few years. Not a criticism. Still a very good team, just not dominant. Other teams have and will catchup. Maybe roster turnover will help. Maybe coaching change or style change will help. Or maybe there's just too many good players at this age so lots of teams will beat each other sometimes. Outside of bandits, we know.


That exactly correct. If any of these morons had older kids that have been through it before they would know. Most kids don't play travel lax in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade. Once the real kids without crazy parents start playing, the field levels out dramatically. Yes, bandits are tops and probably will remain there because a lot of parents will play their kids out of position so they can go to Denver (although only 12 kids will realistically get any tv time), but the rest is a crap shoot. Badgers, S2S, Warriors, and Igloo will all be different teams next year. Some will lose their best players and some won't bring enough new talent in to compete. Either way, all of those teams are going to be grinding it out and beating each other up for the next few years. Good competitive lax never made a kid worse, so they should all worry less about being on the best team and more about finding the team that suits their son's need best.

I guess that makes any team other than the Bandits a 'B' team.
Exactly. Bandits area A team, Badgers are a B team.
So to be clear, judging by the logic of some of the idiots on this board, there is only one A team. The Bandits. The rest are B, C, D, E and F teams. It doesn't matter if you play in the A (or AA) bracket and win games. If you're not the Bandits, you can't be an A team. Good to know.


Some people are so incredibly stupid that it makes my head hurt.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM you are going to get carpel tunnel with the amount of typing you do on this site!

99% of Express hate is guess who ... BM


Exactly correct. That's exactly why he won't coach again on the grade level.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why Recon they are a 1st year team?


Are you asking why they are a first year team?
They never had a 2023 team before. My son plays for them. He loves the coaches and spending time with his teammates. From the parents perspective I was afraid of play time because of the number of kids but they do a great job getting every kid play time. There are 2 main coaches and usually 2 others that help on game days. They are all nice guys and work hard. The negative side for me would be that I would like to see more practices. 1, sometimes 2 a week I feel isn't enough but that's my opinion. The indoor training they do for conditioning all winter is great though.


Where do they practice?


Plainview and Farmigdale
Another tough tourney for Empire Green. Good luck with those town teams. And you wonder why people don't take that team seriously?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks


Depending how good he is. He could make the select team. They are a good b+ team. Right below the top 4ish teams. If he can do the basics should be able to make black. Seemed like a decent group of parents.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks


Depending how good he is. He could make the select team. They are a good b+ team. Right below the top 4ish teams. If he can do the basics should be able to make black. Seemed like a decent group of parents.


Select is a competitive A team. Just because they are not a top 4 team doesn't make them a B team. Black is a competitive B team. Good place to strengthen skills and increase IQ.
Really!!?? You must have some vendetta or are threatened by Empire Green. The Bracket is a mix of travel and town teams....Does the team control that??? NO. So get off of your pedestal you moron! Apparently the team has made a home between those 6 inches between your ears!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know anything about the Outlaws for this age group? Either A or B team. Anything on any team would help as I am thinking about having my son tryout, but don't want to waste the tryout fee.Thanks


Depending how good he is. He could make the select team. They are a good b+ team. Right below the top 4ish teams. If he can do the basics should be able to make black. Seemed like a decent group of parents.


Select is a competitive A team. Just because they are not a top 4 team doesn't make them a B team. Black is a competitive B team. Good place to strengthen skills and increase IQ.


I agree. I more meant a notch below that top group. Good skilled group. Only saw them once.
does any team in this age have a coach that was a goalie? frustrating to not have much attention paid to that position other than 5-10 minutes a practice. getting your own trainer starts to get expensive. thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really!!?? You must have some vendetta or are threatened by Empire Green. The Bracket is a mix of travel and town teams....Does the team control that??? NO. So get off of your pedestal you moron! Apparently the team has made a home between those 6 inches between your ears!


No one is threatened by that team. It's a shame because they're not bad, but the organization has no faith that they can compete. Maybe they can, maybe they can't. No one will ever know.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another tough tourney for Empire Green. Good luck with those town teams. And you wonder why people don't take that team seriously?


Ahhh from the words of an ex Empire parent LOL
Explain THOSE town teams in the bracket? 3V plays as a travel team as well as the LI Tomahawks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does any team in this age have a coach that was a goalie? frustrating to not have much attention paid to that position other than 5-10 minutes a practice. getting your own trainer starts to get expensive. thanks


Warriors coach is a goalie. Last season he took a kid that never played the position before and turned him into a good goalie. So good that the Bandits took him. This season.
You sir, are threatened....otherwise you wouldn't care what games/tournaments this team is in.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another tough tourney for Empire Green. Good luck with those town teams. And you wonder why people don't take that team seriously?


Ahhh from the words of an ex Empire parent LOL


Sounds more like a current Empire parent who's upset that they were fooled into thinking they were a legit club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Explain THOSE town teams in the bracket? 3V plays as a travel team as well as the LI Tomahawks.


They are town teams. Good ones, yes. But still town teams. 3V was probably the 3rd best team in their PAL division and they've since lost their second best player. That's the level of Empire. They are like a good PAL team.
And your son plays for who????
You are doing a lot of chirping.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Explain THOSE town teams in the bracket? 3V plays as a travel team as well as the LI Tomahawks.


They are town teams. Good ones, yes. But still town teams. 3V was probably the 3rd best team in their PAL division and they've since lost their second best player. That's the level of Empire. They are like a good PAL team.


Pump the breaks a bit. Even for you you are getting a little ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does any team in this age have a coach that was a goalie? frustrating to not have much attention paid to that position other than 5-10 minutes a practice. getting your own trainer starts to get expensive. thanks


Warriors coach is a goalie. Last season he took a kid that never played the position before and turned him into a good goalie. So good that the Bandits took him. This season.


I would think their roster is already set though right? hate to just give that club my tryout $.
And yet these town teams register themselves and know that they will be playing against Travel teams. A good way to keep the ball in the stick all season for a PAL team or a PAL team that only wants there players to play for them. You seem to know a lot about Empire, more than a PAL team crazy
One of the few towns that can pull it off. That's why they have such s dominant varsity program
So if you say you do not have a single reclassed player on your team, what do you call players that are old for their grade and repeated a grade. Either you do not know your team or you are giving false information about program. My son played with one of your players in the past and I know for a fact that you have older kids on your team. The player is a 2023 but is older than your age appropriate 2023.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
does any team in this age have a coach that was a goalie? frustrating to not have much attention paid to that position other than 5-10 minutes a practice. getting your own trainer starts to get expensive. thanks


Warriors coach is a goalie. Last season he took a kid that never played the position before and turned him into a good goalie. So good that the Bandits took him. This season.


I would think their roster is already set though right? hate to just give that club my tryout $.


Looking to improve a few positions, I believe.
Jackass! They do have reclassed players on that team and are very good at scouting other teams talents!
There is a lot of talent on the 2023 Recon team.

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be
-Recon
-Hitman
-24 Lacrosse
-Icon
-TrueBlue
-igloo
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be
-Recon
-Hitman
-24 Lacrosse
-Icon
-TrueBlue
-igloo

24 is new.
My son played against Recon. They were good.
Hitmen have 50 practices per year. Good if you want to play a lot of lax.
Igloo is locked up and has insiders.
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be
-Recon
-Hitman
-24 Lacrosse

What position does he played? And what is his skill level?
-Icon
-TrueBlue
-igloo
Empire green should change their name to Empire B
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the goalie situation. A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED

Why don't we talk about your son, idiot. Anyone want to take a shot at his position?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the goalie situation. A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED

Igloo would be the toughest team to make followed by True Blue. True Blue had mostly Masspequa and Wantagh kids. Recon had a lots of kids on their team. Stay away from 24 at all costs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire green should change their name to Empire B


Ok. Getting old now. You can give your axe a rest for a few minutes.
Any other good Nassau team that are competitive and want to grow the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the DELETED A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM you are going to get carpel tunnel with the amount of typing you do on this site!

99% of Express hate is guess who ... BM



Please don't represent the feelings of the entire team. I'm a HB parent and your statement is far from the truth. There's some bad blood between a few parents and BM but the majority like and respect him and what he's done for the development of this team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM you are going to get carpel tunnel with the amount of typing you do on this site!

99% of Express hate is guess who ... BM


Exactly correct. That's exactly why he won't coach again on the grade level.


Why because Express is the ultimate decision maker
of who coaches when and where? You express guys really think your [lacrosse] doesn't stink. I suggest you put down the keyboard , grab a stick and start playing catch with lil Johnny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire green should change their name to Empire B


Ok. Getting old now. You can give your axe a rest for a few minutes.


I think it's super bizarre and pathetic how entrenched you are with another team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the goalie situation. A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.


So why are the guys that left True Blue for Hurricanes two years ago, then bashed TB for a year and then came back, leaving for Bluefish now? Grass is always greener, I guess? If your not from Massapequa, don't bother.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM you are going to get carpel tunnel with the amount of typing you do on this site!

99% of Express hate is guess who ... BM



Please don't represent the feelings of the entire team. I'm a HB parent and your statement is far from the truth. There's some bad blood between a few parents and BM but the majority like and respect him and what he's done for the development of this team.


Thanks BM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the goalie situation. A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.


So why are the guys that left True Blue for Hurricanes two years ago, then bashed TB for a year and then came back, leaving for Bluefish now? Grass is always greener, I guess? If your not from Massapequa, don't bother.

The 2023 Bluefish team had major trouble competing in B brackets this year. They lost over 80% of their games and many of them weren't even close.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the goalie situation. A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.


So why are the guys that left True Blue for Hurricanes two years ago, then bashed TB for a year and then came back, leaving for Bluefish now? Grass is always greener, I guess? If your not from Massapequa, don't bother.

The Massapequa kids are staying. They all stay together. Everyone else is leaving.
Will true blue have many openings this year.
Any other info on hitmen, also played they at Pridefest and they seemed many boys were older than 2023.
I hope empire wins this weekend to shut everybody up. This team will beat the better teams next season for sure.Warriors know it as does the outlaws and all the B teams they played this whole summer. Another T shirt coming Sunday!!!
They haven't beaten the Warriors or the Outlaws. You are clueless you idiot
Empire will be lucky to go 2 and 2 this weekend. Get a grip of yourself. They played outlaws couple tournaments ago and hardly touched the ball. Gonna be a long weekend for the B squad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will true blue have many openings this year.

The word is out that each position has many
openings. It doesn't impact my sons spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the DELETED A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.

The Massapequa varsity coach also coaches this team. They had a good year and will look to improve like every other team.
While it is true that Empire has not won against Outlaws and Warriors, IT Is REALITY that they are on the doorstep and will be breaking down the door. You happen to not mention that they lost to Outlaws at THE Outlaws' OWN tournament where the Refs where HORRIBLE, kids were chasing balls that went out of the field of play because there were no balls on end lines. Also, the fact that teams never changed sides and their goalie was playing looking into the sun........and they lost by a goal in both games. Hmmmmmmm. Not much separating these squads.....Just a matter of time. (Again, only a 2nd year team)
Now it's the sun, the refs and no end lines. Lol. You sure do own a lot of excuses You put yourselves in the B tournaments and that's never your fault neither. And it was the Outlaws own tournament.Wow. You are reaching and making a lot of excuses. Keep wearing that empire gear and telling yourself how great you are. You will be lucky to win 2 games this weekend.
Right, I forgot, it's the team/kids fault/decision which tournament they are put in. You "sir" are such a tool and hide behind this site and bash other teams because of your own insecurities. Worry about your own kid's team, if he is even on one.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the DELETED A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.

The Massapequa varsity coach also coaches this team. They had a good year and will look to improve like every other team.

That's the problem.. Coach doesn't believe in travel teams. That's why it's Massapequa only team. Everyone else is exiting. Good luck Mohawks.
Did anyone do the town of hempstead fun Friday thing? Worth the morning?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While it is true that Empire has not won against Outlaws and Warriors, IT Is REALITY that they are on the doorstep and will be breaking down the door. You happen to not mention that they lost to Outlaws at THE Outlaws' OWN tournament where the Refs where HORRIBLE, kids were chasing balls that went out of the field of play because there were no balls on end lines. Also, the fact that teams never changed sides and their goalie was playing looking into the sun........and they lost by a goal in both games. Hmmmmmmm. Not much separating these squads.....Just a matter of time. (Again, only a 2nd year team)


It was also a very early tournament. Teams were just starting to practice. Outlaws went on to play in A brackets all summer and did very well. Empire went down to play in B brackets all summer. Two teams going in opposite directions. The tournament you were alluding to was basically preseason. Empire didn't have the courage to play in an A bracket later in the summer and play Outlaws again, they were there.
Was thinking of trying out for True Blue but were not from Massapequa am I wasting my time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was thinking of trying out for True Blue but were not from Massapequa am I wasting my time.

No you are not wasting your time. You will get some ignorant posts that you are, but there were kids from a bunch of different towns on it last year. Yes there are some very good players from Massapequa on it, but if a kid can play they will certainly take him no matter where they are from.
The bracket at PrideFest was 2023/2022 NOT 2023 only - so there were kids that were 2022 on that team. Recon coaches didn't tell their parents that, so many were upset when they played Hitmen who were mostly 2022. But again it was a 2023/2022 bracket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Nassau based, or atleast close to the boarder, program for my son. Any info would be helpful and appericated, Practices schedules, practice locations, team dynamics, etc. The teams in the area seem to be

-Recon- 1st year team. They played us at pridefest where my 2023 son played up with 2022 team. They did very well against a bigger and more experienced team. they moved the ball well.

-Hitman- My sons team. I am overall very happy. We have a lot of practices . I am not happy with some things, but what parent is every happy?

-24 Lacrosse- lots of bad stuff in these forums about cheating in the 2024 division. Looks like they are branching out to 2023 next year with one of the very coaches that faced accusations for 2024 running the 2023

-Icon- My friend is not happy which is about all I can say. He complains about the DELETED A lot of talk in these forums has the players in the 2023 going elsewhere.

-TrueBlue- I have no input

-igloo - very good, very selective. DELETED.


True Blue is the best for Nassau. Coach of Adelphi runs the 2023.

The Massapequa varsity coach also coaches this team. They had a good year and will look to improve like every other team.

That's the problem.. Coach doesn't believe in travel teams. That's why it's Massapequa only team. Everyone else is exiting. Good luck Mohawks.

You are wrong.
True Blue has players from other areas besides Massapequa you aren't wasting your time
"Why does it not impact your son". How do you know someone who is better than your son won't tryout and make the team. That's the problem with True Blue and many other teams, people like you who need a connection with someone to have your kids on the team.
This coach on the 2023 team will move kids off no doubt..word is 20-22 of the best kids..He made changes on their 2017 team 4 years ago and they became one of the best around. Don't listen to the nonsense about this being all massapequa kids..Just not true..We will be back for tryouts..
do you mean he is only taking 20-22 kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This coach on the 2023 team will move kids off no doubt..word is 20-22 of the best kids..He made changes on their 2017 team 4 years ago and they became one of the best around. Don't listen to the nonsense about this being all massapequa kids..Just not true..We will be back for tryouts..
Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are entered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!
[quote=Anonymous]Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are enotered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!
Again .......YOU......LOST......
get over it the game is over. You can make up as many excuses as you want, the grass was to long, the goal nets had a hole, it was a sunny day, it was hot..... as long as empire plays down the team will never be considered to be a good travel team just an average B team. Good luck at your next tournament, have some fun and enjoy your summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
do you mean he is only taking 20-22 kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This coach on the 2023 team will move kids off no doubt..word is 20-22 of the best kids..He made changes on their 2017 team 4 years ago and they became one of the best around. Don't listen to the nonsense about this being all massapequa kids..Just not true..We will be back for tryouts..

yes, after JC tells you that he has two teams, your loyalty is gone when you're not on the only one team for 2023. They just want to collect your tryout fee. the more the better $$$$$$$$$
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
do you mean he is only taking 20-22 kids
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This coach on the 2023 team will move kids off no doubt..word is 20-22 of the best kids..He made changes on their 2017 team 4 years ago and they became one of the best around. Don't listen to the nonsense about this being all massapequa kids..Just not true..We will be back for tryouts..

yes, after JC tells you that he has two teams, your loyalty is gone when you're not on the only one team for 2023. They just want to collect your tryout fee. the more the better $$$$$$$$$

This year there will be 2 teams. Last year there was not enough players to commit for a second team. Plenty of open spots this year along with great coaching. It's a very good club.
Gonna be hot this weekend Empire. There's your excuse for this tournament.Now you gotta drop into B again so you have a chance.
Empire B will be fine in the heat.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are enotered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!
Again .......YOU......LOST......
get over it the game is over. You can make up as many excuses as you want, the grass was to long, the goal nets had a hole, it was a sunny day, it was hot..... as long as empire plays down the team will never be considered to be a good travel team just an average B team. Good luck at your next tournament, have some fun and enjoy your summer.


I'm not even an Empire parent and I am rooting for them this weekend just to shut YOU UP! holy sht you have to be the most annoying person on this page!! and yes, every Empire comment must come from the same person bc there is no way there is more than 1 LOSER who is this OBSESSED with another team. I hope none of the Empire parents even entertain what a moron you are and that their boys have fun this weekend and win (or as you like to say "get a another tshirt". what a moron. wow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are entered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!


Read your first sentence, then read your last. Seems your making yourself feel better and are putting down an organization. Even better job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are enotered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!
Again .......YOU......LOST......
get over it the game is over. You can make up as many excuses as you want, the grass was to long, the goal nets had a hole, it was a sunny day, it was hot..... as long as empire plays down the team will never be considered to be a good travel team just an average B team. Good luck at your next tournament, have some fun and enjoy your summer.


I'm not even an Empire parent and I am rooting for them this weekend just to shut YOU UP! holy sht you have to be the most annoying person on this page!! and yes, every Empire comment must come from the same person bc there is no way there is more than 1 LOSER who is this OBSESSED with another team. I hope none of the Empire parents even entertain what a moron you are and that their boys have fun this weekend and win (or as you like to say "get a another tshirt". what a moron. wow.

Sorry but the only loser here is YOU, who keeps posting about how good empire is but keeps making up excuse after excuse as to why they loose then say that you aren't a parent just a concerned anonymous poster......you sir are a complete MORON... have a great day
Keep pretending your not an Empire parent.You are a pathetic parent bashing the Outlaws.Great job, they are kids you idiot. You can't beat the Outlaws or beat an A team,we all know that! Nobody respects a team that plays down. Keep paying to play so you can winBtournaments. Lol
I'm not sure what is sillier...

All this talk of "nobody respects ****" or "**** will not be taken seriously"

or

Folks taking the time to care about, try to respond to and dispute such drivel!

It is 11 year old lacrosse folks and the sports talk radio mentality on this website is really sad. To have an opinion about a team your son doesn't play for is so juvenile and sick. To care what other people think about your sons team is just as sick, albeit a little less creepy lol.

IS your son playing?
Is your son improving?
Is your son having fun?

This is truly all that any parent should care about.

If you don't have an older son who has been through this process, trust me you will absolutely agree with me when you grow up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Again.......only 1 goal differential.....not too impressive if I were the Outlaws. If it was "pre-season" then it was for both teams. What happened the rest of the summer was/is out of the team's control. Kids just play the games they are enotered in and do their best, try to grow and get better. It's pathetic parents such as yourself that put the kids/organization down to make themselves feel better......GOOD JOB!!
Again .......YOU......LOST......
get over it the game is over. You can make up as many excuses as you want, the grass was to long, the goal nets had a hole, it was a sunny day, it was hot..... as long as empire plays down the team will never be considered to be a good travel team just an average B team. Good luck at your next tournament, have some fun and enjoy your summer.


I'm not even an Empire parent and I am rooting for them this weekend just to shut YOU UP! holy sht you have to be the most annoying person on this page!! and yes, every Empire comment must come from the same person bc there is no way there is more than 1 LOSER who is this OBSESSED with another team. I hope none of the Empire parents even entertain what a moron you are and that their boys have fun this weekend and win (or as you like to say "get a another tshirt". what a moron. wow.

Sorry but the only loser here is YOU, who keeps posting about how good empire is but keeps making up excuse after excuse as to why they loose then say that you aren't a parent just a concerned anonymous poster......you sir are a complete MORON... have a great day


It's "miss", not Sir. Jackass.
Do your homework, and why not try out for other teams for the competition and to get a feel for the dynamics, "test the waters". Help you son to be happy and develop his skills. Money is an issue for most families, t's understandable to feel shy about changing teams and all the backlash. However, I believe in loyalty to a team, but sometimes you have to do what's best for your family. I heard there are non-for-profit club teams in this age group, $1k less than some other clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bracket at PrideFest was 2023/2022 NOT 2023 only - so there were kids that were 2022 on that team. Recon coaches didn't tell their parents that, so many were upset when they played Hitmen who were mostly 2022. But again it was a 2023/2022 bracket.


Recon coaches told all the parents that it was a 2022/23 bracket multiple times at practices. Unfortunately, Hitmen did what they always do and play older kids. I saw four boys on that team that are going into 8th grade (2021). I know cause they had been on my older sons team a couple of years back. Hitmen are known to sandbag since they started their club a couple of years back.
My son is on the Hitmen 2022 team and I can tell you that that team was all 6th grade (2022) with a few 5th that they asked to play up.
I think the issue with them is that they have kids play with their grade then will also have that player if he is good enough play up. So people see him on two teams. I know a few 2020 guys for Hitmen who also play on the JV team so if you didn't know better you may think he's playing down with 2020 when that is actually his grade and played up with JV.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bracket at PrideFest was 2023/2022 NOT 2023 only - so there were kids that were 2022 on that team. Recon coaches didn't tell their parents that, so many were upset when they played Hitmen who were mostly 2022. But again it was a 2023/2022 bracket.


Recon coaches told all the parents that it was a 2022/23 bracket multiple times at practices. Unfortunately, Hitmen did what they always do and play older kids. I saw four boys on that team that are going into 8th grade (2021). I know cause they had been on my older sons team a couple of years back. Hitmen are known to sandbag since they started their club a couple of years back.


It's funny I have two sons one on the 2020 (hes 2021) and the 2022 team. He's the only 2021 player on the 2020 team. The 2020 team has 22 kids - 20 of them are 2022 and two are 2023. So I'm not sure which 4 2021 kids you saw there.

I've been with them since they started 6 years ago. We've never played down. In fact our 2022 team scrimmaged your 2020/2021 B team because they felt you guys weren't strong enough to play us. We beat that team and they had about 30 kids on it.

It sounds like you are upset we beat you handily in the championship game. Even with that we passed the ball around for the last 20 minutes of the game and stopped taking faceoffs. It's frustrating to be on the losing side our 2022 team last year was very very weak, but we got some very good talent that put us in the B+/A- range this year. There's no need to spread false rumors. You have a nice 2023 team but going up against a strong 2022 team results in what happened.

Trust me if our older kids played you it would have been even worse. Both the 2021/2020 and 2022 team finished in second out of about 18 teams at Hershey this past weekend.

I'm good friends with Harry, he doesn't stand for this type of behavior and false rumor spreading. Hitmen and Recon scrimmage a lot and help each other out. I'll be forwarding this to him.
Your a mom on here. A real loser then. Get back in the kitchen
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your a mom on here. A real loser then. Get back in the kitchen


Excuseeeeee meeeeeee!!!!! I am a mom and I AM BOTC. You better check yourself!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your a mom on here. A real loser then. Get back in the kitchen


Wow. I'm sure your wife and kids would be proud.
And it's you're.
Hope your son has better academics and class than his chump daddy.
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your a mom on here. A real loser then. Get back in the kitchen


Excuseeeeee meeeeeee!!!!! I am a mom and I AM BOTC. You better check yourself!!!!


She told you!!
I don't know what you are talking about people starting to hate the coach on Levitown PAL. My son is from another town and plays on Recon, it seems you are the joke. It's a good first year team with some very good players, they have an excellent winter training program. This team has a bright future and is going to be exciting to watch in the coming years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The bracket at PrideFest was 2023/2022 NOT 2023 only - so there were kids that were 2022 on that team. Recon coaches didn't tell their parents that, so many were upset when they played Hitmen who were mostly 2022. But again it was a 2023/2022 bracket.


Recon coaches told all the parents that it was a 2022/23 bracket multiple times at practices. Unfortunately, Hitmen did what they always do and play older kids. I saw four boys on that team that are going into 8th grade (2021). I know cause they had been on my older sons team a couple of years back. Hitmen are known to sandbag since they started their club a couple of years back.


It's funny I have two sons one on the 2020 (hes 2021) and the 2022 team. He's the only 2021 player on the 2020 team. The 2020 team has 22 kids - 20 of them are 2022 and two are 2023. So I'm not sure which 4 2021 kids you saw there.

I've been with them since they started 6 years ago. We've never played down. In fact our 2022 team scrimmaged your 2020/2021 B team because they felt you guys weren't strong enough to play us. We beat that team and they had about 30 kids on it.

It sounds like you are upset we beat you handily in the championship game. Even with that we passed the ball around for the last 20 minutes of the game and stopped taking faceoffs. It's frustrating to be on the losing side our 2022 team last year was very very weak, but we got some very good talent that put us in the B+/A- range this year. There's no need to spread false rumors. You have a nice 2023 team but going up against a strong 2022 team results in what happened.

Trust me if our older kids played you it would have been even worse. Both the 2021/2020 and 2022 team finished in second out of about 18 teams at Hershey this past weekend.

I'm good friends with Harry, he doesn't stand for this type of behavior and false rumor spreading. Hitmen and Recon scrimmage a lot and help each other out. I'll be forwarding this to him.


How was it a championship game if it was only the third game Recon played out of 4 games. Didn't even see a championship bracket for this tournament on Tourney Machine.
Empire Green defeated Outlaws Black (not select) 6-3
Another b tournament for them?
Who said they don't belong in the B bracket. Team full of studs that don't share the ball. Draw and Draw no dump is clearly their motto. What is that Coach thinking ? It is a free for all to get to the cage. No ball movement at all. Looks like a bunch of the top PAL players all on this team with no coaching. Either they score or the ball is coming back in a matter of seconds. You better be in shape though to play them because they will run you to death with the turnovers. I thought the coach would slow down the pace but he just keep pushing. The whole game was in transition. His offense mindset doesn't consider that the Defense needs a break. If they would have played a third game against Three Village today they would have lost for sure. Just on the fact that their defense must be shot after just two games. Our boys were done after one game with them. But Empire is in second place. Three Village will probably lose the first game, but I doubt Empire will be able to substain thier crazy pace for the whole day and win the championship game which should be the rematch of first game tomorrow after semi finals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green defeated Outlaws Black (not select) 6-3



That's it only by 3 goals? That's funny stuff. I am sure the other B teams are happy you are there. Why is it that empire always can find the B tournaments but cant find the A ones. Do you guys need help finding them? I am sure a lot of teams would love to see you play A. Jus kidding stay where you belong in the B division.
Empire will beat 3v in the finals. 3v lost their best player and empire beat them last yr. Empire will beat them by atleast 5.
B champions again?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire Green defeated Outlaws Black (not select) 6-3



That's it only by 3 goals? That's funny stuff. I am sure the other B teams are happy you are there. Why is it that empire always can find the B tournaments but cant find the A ones. Do you guys need help finding them? I am sure a lot of teams would love to see you play A. Jus kidding stay where you belong in the B division.


Here come the "it's not our fault we are in b division speech". At least they won. They must not have had the sun in their eyes and had balls on the end lines.
That's a lot of money to be an Supposedly A team and play all B tournaments. Waste of money and time. Maybe time to find a new team that wants to play the best?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's a lot of money to be an Supposedly A team and play all B tournaments. Waste of money and time. Maybe time to find a new team that wants to play the best?


Maybe time to focus on your own kid and his team?
Next year they'll really be a B team since most of their best players are jumping ship after tomorrow.
I think it's time for all of the Empire "bashers" to man-up and state what team/organization they are with. What great "A" organization are you with that rises up above all others? Stop hiding behind this forum you coward. I see you wasted no time in racing home to post on the site. Keep beating your chest while you bash on 11 year olds....If it is a disgruntled parent from the organization.....THEN LEAVE if you are that unhappy......spread your cancer elsewhere and glad to get rid of you. "Little Johnny" isn't as good as you think he is! This is a team game and not PAL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Next year they'll really be a B team since most of their best players are jumping ship after tomorrow.


Oh come on. This hast be gongas posting this crap!! Lol
Gongas has arrived. Lol
Enough with the Empire discussion. Might as well be speaking about E3, Tomahawks and Bluefish....middle of the road B reams.
Im baffled at how many lax dads sit on here and bash the so called mediocre B team. Why do you even care then? No one talks about a middle of the road B team team. If you werent intimidated by Empire you wouldnt be worried about what tourneys they play, what bracket. But clearly you see they are on the door step of success and are worried. So keep hiding behind your anonymous post and sit on the sidelines just watching and waiting to post.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with the Empire discussion. Might as well be speaking about E3, Tomahawks and Bluefish....middle of the road B reams.

Bluefish were a C or D team. They would lose to E3 by double digits.
There is a new app called "The Official" that does age verification and can be used by the refs at the games to verify the kids on the field. Why don't all the tournaments use this?? Instead of carrying player cards like soccer the player's verified ages are in the app.

This is the 21st Century
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with the Empire discussion. Might as well be speaking about E3, Tomahawks and Bluefish....middle of the road B reams.


Why can't we talk about the B teams. Not everyone is obsessed with their kid playing on an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a new app called "The Official" that does age verification and can be used by the refs at the games to verify the kids on the field. Why don't all the tournaments use this?? Instead of carrying player cards like soccer the player's verified ages are in the app.

This is the 21st Century


This would be done before games? It would only create more complaining and excuses. There would be games starting late because of it so people would complain. The server would go down or tech problems and people would scream about the fix being in because such and such kid wasn't verified and then didn't play in a game that was verified. You need to understand that all teams have kids that were held back. All of them. That's why no one checks. It doesn't matter. You think your kid is not getting a fair shake playing against older kids, but the parents on the other team are saying the same thing. In 2 years it won't matter because they'll all be playing against each other in middle school and then on JV and varsity after that. Take a deep breath and realize that 5th grade lacrosse is not that important.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with the Empire discussion. Might as well be speaking about E3, Tomahawks and Bluefish....middle of the road B reams.


Why can't we talk about the B teams. Not everyone is obsessed with their kid playing on an A team.


This guy gets it... The rest of you are nuts.
yes since most of us are on B teams can someone give me the top 5.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough with the Empire discussion. Might as well be speaking about E3, Tomahawks and Bluefish....middle of the road B reams.


Why can't we talk about the B teams. Not everyone is obsessed with their kid playing on an A team.


This guy gets it... The rest of you are nuts.
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.
Thinking of trying out for Bluefish, any thought on the team or coaching?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


How many games did outlaws black win this weekend?
It was the championship because Recon up to that point was 2-0, the other team was 2-0 and everyone else in the bracket had 1 loss. There was no playoff bracket, but best of the 3 games - not sure why recon had 4. Anyway, they went 3-0 and the other I think went 3-1 but that last game was against a team the other had beaten already so it wouldn't effect standings. So while not a bracket championship it was a championship. It doesn't mean much but shirts were given to the other team because they were champs which I guess for someone like yourself solidify the championship so to speak.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


How many games did outlaws black win this weekend?

Do you have enough facts about how many players were there before you speak?
Empire loves the B shirts
E3 is the best B team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


How many games did outlaws black win this weekend?

Do you have enough facts about how many players were there before you speak?


They had select players fill in, no?
The kids had a good tournament.... Period!!!
Enough with the BS!....
Still hiding huh??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
E3 is the best B team


E3 has that insane mom that yells on the side line like a lunatic. She alone would make me not let my kid try out for that team. I have nightmares of her yelling at that poor Hawk kid!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It was the championship because Recon up to that point was 2-0, the other team was 2-0 and everyone else in the bracket had 1 loss. There was no playoff bracket, but best of the 3 games - not sure why recon had 4. Anyway, they went 3-0 and the other I think went 3-1 but that last game was against a team the other had beaten already so it wouldn't effect standings. So while not a bracket championship it was a championship. It doesn't mean much but shirts were given to the other team because they were champs which I guess for someone like yourself solidify the championship so to speak.


Recon was asked to play a fourth game by the organizers. We did and lost. We went 3-1 beating 6th blaze, 5th blaze, 2023 outlaws {unsure of color or class a,b,}. As a parent I thought Hitmen 2022 was above us as it should have been. A parent from Hitmen complimented our boys on how they moved the ball and the great sportsmanship by our team. Lets leave it at that. It was a good day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


What's do we think will happen with Express this year? Last year was an obscene money grab resulting in 3 teams. The HB'S are what they are. The channel team had 30+ kids on the roster with a lot of pissed parents and not a stellar season and then they created this C team, also with a pretty full roster that only won a few games. So does MC go with the money grab again continuing to drive his credibility into the ground or actually hold a legit tryout and take thr best and make competitive B teams?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The kids had a good tournament.... Period!!!
Enough with the BS!....
Still hiding huh??


Little Johnny rocked it this weekend. Do you feel better now?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy



Yes, much more going on with b teams. A teams get the headlines but lots of other stuff going on. Plenty of teams with good pieces in place. We'll see how much movement happens.
-A lot of talk about recon, but is it just them trying to get their name out there?
-Empire green keep building or lose kids?
-outlaws black add some more pieces?
-ditto legacy?
-e3 keep growing?
-will icon put the pieces together?
-Express Channy put together a team to win or make $?
-express white find some offense instead of filling wallets?
-bluefish withstand building years?
-24?

Kids leaving, kids staying. Good luck at tryouts.


I was thinking of having my son try out for the Millon team. Does anyone know anything about that organization?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


How many games did outlaws black win this weekend?

Do you have enough facts about how many players were there before you speak?


They had select players fill in, no?


No, it was just Black
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes since most of us are on B teams what are the top 5 2023 B teams.

Outlaws Black
True Blue
Empire Green
Recon
Express Channy


What's do we think will happen with Express this year? Last year was an obscene money grab resulting in 3 teams. The HB'S are what they are. The channel team had 30+ kids on the roster with a lot of pissed parents and not a stellar season and then they created this C team, also with a pretty full roster that only won a few games. So does MC go with the money grab again continuing to drive his credibility into the ground or actually hold a legit tryout and take thr best and make competitive B teams?


I heard at least for jr.'so team they're gonna try and keep the core and add pieces so he has a better team. Saw them a couple times and they seem hot and cold on how they played. 3rd team wasn't competitive much. We played them in the fall and again in summer. Much improved from fall but always on defense.
bet if you asked kid he would say..."no more, please.. I want to do other things besides lacrosse with my summer"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
bet if you asked kid he would say..."no more, please.. I want to do other things besides lacrosse with my summer"


Didn't you mean to be texting your significant other with this?
Actually yes I do. It was great seeing a team be down by 3 goals, against a team that brought in many different kids (Igloo) to play in the championship game, and see our team run off 7 goals to win. Nice to see that the kids didn't quit and fought back as a team.
As for you; continue hiding like the coward you are. I truly enjoy the fact that an 11 yr. old travel team has engulfed your entire waking and pathetic life!!
I've been talking to some people and it looks like there will be a lot of movement for next season. The grass is always greener on the other side for some people.
That is true.....Grass is always greener, other clubs will gladly take your money regardless if your child will play or not and continued politics no matter where they go!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been talking to some people and it looks like there will be a lot of movement for next season. The grass is always greener on the other side for some people.

Owners of clubs should take note:
The grass is greener when the next team you move your son to has better coaching, more practices, works on all aspects of every position, and wants to build the development of each player.
I also know a lot of my sons friends who are leaving large clubs because this is not what was promised to them.
It's sad that you had a bad experience where little Johnny was playing. It appears that problems come from the parents who have this false reality that their child is "all world" and is being looked at by D1 scouts. Let the kids learn the game and have fun competing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's sad that you had a bad experience where little Johnny was playing. It appears that problems come from the parents who have this false reality that their child is "all world" and is being looked at by D1 scouts. Let the kids learn the game and have fun competing.

The problem is not the parent, it's the owner of the club selling a bunch of crap for the parents hard earned money. I know of only a few clubs where the practices are year round, provide top notch training, cover all aspects of the game, and build a better player. It has nothing to do with D1.
If there are names of clubs that fill/fulfill all of these requirements please share.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's sad that you had a bad experience where little Johnny was playing. It appears that problems come from the parents who have this false reality that their child is "all world" and is being looked at by D1 scouts. Let the kids learn the game and have fun competing.


While yes this is taken way too seriously, why would people not be upset if they paid a lot of money and didn't get what they were told? To some that is a big expense. If you had a plumber come into your house to do $1000 worth of work and they do half of what was promised, would you use them again? I completely agree with what you said about being unrealistic, but to step on someone's statement about services rendered if true is not fair.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If there are names of clubs that fill/fulfill all of these requirements please share.

Mr Anonymous owner I do not need to share with you who your competitors are. If you did a better job you wouldn't need to worry about the kids who are leaving your club for a better learning experience!
Not an owner....Just a parent like yourself... Just interested to see/hear of any other organization that is without the issues you speak of..
I understand your example.....I was just stating that one's views may be clouded over sometimes by their own false expectations and/or lack of knowledge themselves. I agree that one should get their $$ worth 100%
I agree with the posts. There are only 3-4 real "A" teams in this age group. The rest of us far outnumber them, and we love lacrosse. I am more interested in hearing good news about the "B" teams, and how they are coming along and growing. The elitists can go hang out on their 3-4 teams. We don't need them!
Wow. I understand your frustration. My son has been playing for one of the premier clubs in NJ for the past two years. This year we found the experience completely unbearable. It just wasn't fun. My son didn't learn anything. The parents were out of their minds. He was preemptively offered a position for the 2017 season but we declined. Instead, we have opted for a smaller more low-key team where he can actually get some hands on training. Sure the prestige element isn't there but who cares.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not an owner....Just a parent like yourself... Just interested to see/hear of any other organization that is without the issues you speak of..
He's not a parent...he's a troll. He loves stirring the pot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not an owner....Just a parent like yourself... Just interested to see/hear of any other organization that is without the issues you speak of..
He's not a parent...he's a troll. He loves stirring the pot.

The troll is probably one of those owners of their so called elite organizations with an A team.
Oh no, you must think your kid is a stud. You are an idiot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh no, you must think your kid is a stud. You are an idiot.

Your office is on dirt. You are the idiot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree with the posts. There are only 3-4 real "A" teams in this age group. The rest of us far outnumber them, and we love lacrosse. I am more interested in hearing good news about the "B" teams, and how they are coming along and growing. The elitists can go hang out on their 3-4 teams. We don't need them!


I think that we learned last season that the field of good quality, competitive teams is growing. Only a year ago there was two teams (Bandits and Badgers) and then the rest. This year, teams like Igloo, S2S and Warriors took really big steps forward. Most of these teams have played each other to writhing a goal or two on numerous occasions. I think that's awesome for the age group. Next year we may see a few more teams make a jump and then things will really get exciting! There will be changes made in most clubs, all for the better. To think that any of them are out of reach is just silly. Kids work and grow in the offseason. They get stronger and more skilled. The landscape is working itself out, but it will continue to change for the next few years.

They're all too much money, and we're all crazy parents (just being in this board when the season is over is proof enough of that!). If you can find the team that best suits your child, then run with it!

Good luck to all of the boys at trouts next month!
B teams? Express Channy and True Blue were in all A Bracket tournaments this year along with Outlaws Select. I guess the other teams were all in B Brackets. If your playing in B brackets then you are a B team. A brackets = A teams. Of course Express, 91 and the Md teams putting their own tournaments together for a money grab throws a monkey wrench into things. Oh yeah they don't want to deal with the age requirements with all their hold backs!! Should be interesting
Badgers, Bandits, S2S, Igloo are A.
Everybody else is B whether or not they play in A.
True Blue, Warriors, Ourlaws select, Channy get blown out in A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
B teams? Express Channy and True Blue were in all A Bracket tournaments this year along with Outlaws Select. I guess the other teams were all in B Brackets. If your playing in B brackets then you are a B team. A brackets = A teams. Of course Express, 91 and the Md teams putting their own tournaments together for a money grab throws a monkey wrench into things. Oh yeah they don't want to deal with the age requirements with all their hold backs!! Should be interesting
playing in an A bracket does not make you an A team. You have to beat a few A teams to be considered an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers, Bandits, S2S, Igloo are A.
Everybody else is B whether or not they play in A.
True Blue, Warriors, Ourlaws select, Channy get blown out in A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers, Bandits, S2S, Igloo are A.
Everybody else is B whether or not they play in A.
True Blue, Warriors, Ourlaws select, Channy get blown out in A.
Totally agree. Finally a sensible comment.
why don't they make a B+ Division? It would suite those teams that are better than B but not yet A.........
How would you know until you played them. The only team that played True Blue was STS and they tied them! So much for that BLOWN OUT Theory!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How would you know until you played them. The only team that played True Blue was STS and they tied them! So much for that BLOWN OUT Theory!!!

If your kid was on True Blue you would know that they other teams in the A bracket and got blown out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Badgers, Bandits, S2S, Igloo are A.
Everybody else is B whether or not they play in A.
True Blue, Warriors, Ourlaws select, Channy get blown out in A.


That's a pretty silly statement. Who did S2S beat? I know they got beat up by the 3 real "A" teams. Laxachussettes Black is an A team. Hawks, Madlax, Bethesda, FCA all A teams too. Warriors don't get blown out in A. They've beaten everyone except the top 3 and played them close on several occasions. Same with Outlaws select. Maybe not now after Bandits stole their faceoff kid, but they were a quality team. The idea that their are only 3 A teams is ridiculous. Bandits, Igloo and Badgers are the top three "A" teams, not the only ones.
Nobody cares about the 70 kids on Igloo, HB, or Badgers.
There are thousands of boys in this grade on Ling Island. Let's keep the posts about everyone else.
Let me pose this. My son was on a team where we really liked the coach, but the organization/team is less than desired for various reasons. If we go back to tryouts and selected, are we within reason to ask who is on the rest of the roster or who they extended offers to? That would play a big part towards the skill level and dynamics of the team that would play a role in what we advise our son on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me pose this. My son was on a team where we really liked the coach, but the organization/team is less than desired for various reasons. If we go back to tryouts and selected, are we within reason to ask who is on the rest of the roster or who they extended offers to? That would play a big part towards the skill level and dynamics of the team that would play a role in what we advise our son on.


Ask as many questions as you feel are necessary for you to make a decision on who you will pay your money to.
- Ask if the coach you like will be returning
- Ask how many kids from last year will be back
- Ask if practices will be similar to last year, etc, etc, etc

If they refuse to answer your questions, I think you'll learn a lot about what you should do for next season.
Also, I would recommend if you get all satisfactory answers...hold off on payment til the last possible second
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me pose this. My son was on a team where we really liked the coach, but the organization/team is less than desired for various reasons. If we go back to tryouts and selected, are we within reason to ask who is on the rest of the roster or who they extended offers to? That would play a big part towards the skill level and dynamics of the team that would play a role in what we advise our son on.


Ask as many questions as you feel are necessary for you to make a decision on who you will pay your money to.
- Ask if the coach you like will be returning
- Ask how many kids from last year will be back
- Ask if practices will be similar to last year, etc, etc, etc

If they refuse to answer your questions, I think you'll learn a lot about what you should do for next season.
Also, I would recommend if you get all satisfactory answers...hold off on payment til the last possible second

Great advise.
I have seen exactly what this post suggests with all of my boys on different clubs. Some owners are not up front about what is really going on behind the scenes. Find out when the first practice starts, how long are the practices, what is the schedule, who else is coaching, do any of the coaches have kids on the team and what are those kids positions, are they going to teach rides/clears/man up/ man down/goalie/face off/
what type of defensive schemes are run, etc.
Some clubs don't do any of the above in their practices.

The more an owner can't answer... the more you can tell what you are in for!!
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.

Very true.
The politics with Daddy coaches is unbearable. Their kid and kids friends always start. Plays are based around them as well. I will only have my son play on a travel team that has a 2k+ cost if there is no Daddy coach.
How about this, You show up at tryouts and ask the director if a certain person who is at tryouts will be coaching. That person isn't participating at tryouts, but is observing. You're told by the Director and by that individual that "No" he won't be coaching. Then the season starts, and not only is he coaching, but his son and 7 of his buddies are on the team. Its too late to quit when you find out so you stick it out. The season goes as you'd expect and the coaches ki and his buddies play a lot more than everyone else. And now the Head Coach has left the team for the second year in a row, leaving this guy who lied to you. My only question is, how fast do you run away from Igloo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about this, You show up at tryouts and ask the director if a certain person who is at tryouts will be coaching. That person isn't participating at tryouts, but is observing. You're told by the Director and by that individual that "No" he won't be coaching. Then the season starts, and not only is he coaching, but his son and 7 of his buddies are on the team. Its too late to quit when you find out so you stick it out. The season goes as you'd expect and the coaches ki and his buddies play a lot more than everyone else. And now the Head Coach has left the team for the second year in a row, leaving this guy who lied to you. My only question is, how fast do you run away from Igloo?


LOL!!!! That is the truth. The only exception is that PS is coming back.
Please run as fast as you can. You and your negativity will not be missed. You can go disrupt another team. How many times can you post the same thing? I don't think anyone cares.
The politics run deep. Sometimes it's easy to figure out(coach's son and friends), other times it pans out during season. Certain teams use the club as a sort of town team, where kids from the same school district as the coach get favored. Also, the coach may be friends with some of the parents and may favor those kids. For what it's worth, out of the three teams my children have played on with a coach and son, only one was a bad experience. The other two teams you would never figure out who the sons were.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.


I disagree. For some, coaching the team is only part of their income. They get the bulk of their pay through clinics and private training sessions of $50/hr or more. The fact that they coach competitive lacrosse teams is a great selling feature and excuse to charge big money to parents with deep pockets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about this, You show up at tryouts and ask the director if a certain person who is at tryouts will be coaching. That person isn't participating at tryouts, but is observing. You're told by the Director and by that individual that "No" he won't be coaching. Then the season starts, and not only is he coaching, but his son and 7 of his buddies are on the team. Its too late to quit when you find out so you stick it out. The season goes as you'd expect and the coaches ki and his buddies play a lot more than everyone else. And now the Head Coach has left the team for the second year in a row, leaving this guy who lied to you. My only question is, how fast do you run away from Igloo?

Please run as fast as you can. You and your negativity will not be missed. You can go disrupt another team. How many times can you post the same thing? I don't think anyone cares.





Are you saying that what he/she posted isn't true?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about this, You show up at tryouts and ask the director if a certain person who is at tryouts will be coaching. That person isn't participating at tryouts, but is observing. You're told by the Director and by that individual that "No" he won't be coaching. Then the season starts, and not only is he coaching, but his son and 7 of his buddies are on the team. Its too late to quit when you find out so you stick it out. The season goes as you'd expect and the coaches ki and his buddies play a lot more than everyone else. And now the Head Coach has left the team for the second year in a row, leaving this guy who lied to you. My only question is, how fast do you run away from Igloo?

Please run as fast as you can. You and your negativity will not be missed. You can go disrupt another team. How many times can you post the same thing? I don't think anyone cares.





Are you saying that what he/she posted isn't true?

I think they are saying HALLELUYAH!! This parent will finally be off the team!!
No he is not coming back
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No PS is not coming back
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No PS is not coming back

What team is this about?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No he is not coming back

He beat the Bandits. There is nowhere for him to go. He's their ace!
Exactly. He beat the Bandits. Knowing JS looks like he picked up a new coach!
Originally Posted by Vicarious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.


I disagree. For some, coaching the team is only part of their income. They get the bulk of their pay through clinics and private training sessions of $50/hr or more. The fact that they coach competitive lacrosse teams is a great selling feature and excuse to charge big money to parents with deep pockets.


You're delusional. I would run full speed from any team with a dad coach.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No he is not coming back

He beat the Bandits. There is nowhere for him to go. He's their ace!


They're taking on even bigger headaches!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly. He beat the Bandits. Knowing JS looks like he picked up a new coach!

Lol. Nice try. He can't wait to beat the Bandits again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly. He beat the Bandits. Knowing JS looks like he picked up a new coach!

Lol. Nice try. He can't wait to beat the Bandits again.


The sun even shines on a dogs [lacrosse] from time to time...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Vicarious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.


I disagree. For some, coaching the team is only part of their income. They get the bulk of their pay through clinics and private training sessions of $50/hr or more. The fact that they coach competitive lacrosse teams is a great selling feature and excuse to charge big money to parents with deep pockets.


You're delusional. I would run full speed from any team with a dad coach.

Speaking from experience, not "dilusional". The guy who thinks the majority of coaches are coaching the team for anything other than financial gain is delusional.
Who is "they"?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Exactly. He beat the Bandits. Knowing JS looks like he picked up a new coach!

Lol. Nice try. He can't wait to beat the Bandits again.


The sun even shines on a dogs [lacrosse] from time to time...


i know you don't want to hear it, but closer and more competitive games will only bring good news for this age group. be the better person and ignore stupid comments and hope to see great games.
Bandits will be like Smash in a year
Bandits lost before Smash EVER lost
Extremely beatable.
Igloo held them to 3 goals in 1st game
And only 4 in championship
91 gets em young and they roll big time--

BUT

As they grow 91 loses its steam

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits will be like Smash in a year
Bandits lost before Smash EVER lost
Extremely beatable.
Igloo held them to 3 goals in 1st game
And only 4 in championship
9 D Won gets em young and they roll big time--

BUT

As they grow NineDeeWon loses its steam



Like Crush?? Who you trying to get crazy with, essè? Don't you know I'm loco???
I'm glad there are more than 4 good A team's. Makes for better lacrosse competition, better reason to spend money to go to a tournament and hopefully not play the same teams in semi's and champ games over and over. If a team is coming within 1-2 goals of teams who are supposed "top A" and winning their bracket to make a semi in the A division, then those teams are worth mentioning. And be lucky if you play get to play those teams in a tournament. NOTHING worse than leaving 1/2 your family at home to stay at a mediocre hotel, sit on a scorching field while your team beats up on other teams in your bracket and running up the score so you have a better goal differential or GA to make the semi's. Same scenario every weekend.
Let's try and help our boys thrive and find a coach and team that "clicks" for him and your family.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits will be like Smash in a year
Bandits lost before Smash EVER lost
Extremely beatable.
Igloo held them to 3 goals in 1st game
And only 4 in championship
91 gets em young and they roll big time--

BUT

As they grow 91 loses its steam



Then why do so many of them commit to exceptional colleges? Far more than any other club. That's a serious question, I'm curious.
Some of these clubs are insane with what they are charging!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits will be like Smash in a year
Bandits lost before Smash EVER lost
Extremely beatable.
Igloo held them to 3 goals in 1st game
And only 4 in championship
91 gets em young and they roll big time--

BUT

As they grow 91 loses its steam



Then why do so many of them commit to exceptional colleges? Far more than any other club. That's a serious question, I'm curious.

Not even close to express
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bandits will be like Smash in a year
Bandits lost before Smash EVER lost
Extremely beatable.
Igloo held them to 3 goals in 1st game
And only 4 in championship
91 gets em young and they roll big time--

BUT

As they grow 91 loses its steam



Then why do so many of them commit to exceptional colleges? Far more than any other club. That's a serious question, I'm curious.

Not even close to express


You may want to do some research before posting... I'm talking about college, not Catholics.
I see that the Outlaws have this new hierarchy of player development and organization. Is this smoke and mirror, or is the club changing for the first time?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I see that the Outlaws have this new hierarchy of player development and organization. Is this smoke and mirror, or is the club changing for the first time?

They did they same thing last year with bringing on the Smithtown coaches. It didn't change things very much.
How do you think talent will play out with the addition of 2 new teams next year?more parity in b teams, or more of a b+ and the b?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Vicarious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.


I disagree. For some, coaching the team is only part of their income. They get the bulk of their pay through clinics and private training sessions of $50/hr or more. The fact that they coach competitive lacrosse teams is a great selling feature and excuse to charge big money to parents with deep pockets.


You're delusional. I would run full speed from any team with a dad coach.


totally agree. igloo 24 a disaster and 23 about to be. express 23 also. huge conflicts. i would bet most end up coaching the B team in a few years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Vicarious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the coach dosent have a son on the team, don't play there. He's only there for the money and nothing else.Sad but true


You must have had a bad experience. The majority of parents would prefer the coach NOT have a son/daughter on the team, no favoritism, no questions about coach's kids best buddy playing more.

Let's be real. If you don't have a kid on the team and are putting a ton of time in, you're most likely not doing it for the 2k-5k a year (at most). You're doing it to help these kids grow as player and young men. Most grown men aren't looking to put in 2-3 days a week and every weekend in the summer to pay a 1/4 of their Long Island property taxes for the year.


I disagree. For some, coaching the team is only part of their income. They get the bulk of their pay through clinics and private training sessions of $50/hr or more. The fact that they coach competitive lacrosse teams is a great selling feature and excuse to charge big money to parents with deep pockets.


You're delusional. I would run full speed from any team with a dad coach.


totally agree. igloo 24 a disaster and 23 about to be. express 23 also. huge conflicts. i would bet most end up coaching the B team in a few years.

Heard a big fall out between both Igloo coaches, and now they're going to have a second team? LOL, who needs the drama!
Which are the 2 new teams ?
Heard wrong
is it unusual to be on 2 or maybe 3 teams at once.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is it unusual to be on 2 or maybe 3 teams at once.


It just doesn't work come tourney time. But they will take your $$$$. Then for each game and practice you have to choose and you lose. Unless you have a Town team with a limited schedule, it's a mistake. And don't assume you can keep it a secret. Everyone will find out sooner or later.
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


The Bengals??? I don't think we saw then.in any tournaments this year. And the sharks got pummeled constantly
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish



Above average player would do good on true blue (many critics on the coach) either love him or hate him. Coaches at local college. Hitmen or recon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Those are the only ones that you're allowed to mention on this site... All decent choices though
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


The Bengals??? I don't think we saw then.in any tournaments this year. And the sharks got pummeled constantly

And the Bluefish got beat badly in B brackets all summer.
in that order.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


The Bengals??? I don't think we saw then.in any tournaments this year. And the sharks got pummeled constantly

And the Bluefish got beat badly in B brackets all summer.

These are very good teams for boys that are not locked in to the big 5 clubs. The key is to play, gain confidence, go to camp/clinics, play Box, run, exercise, and most important wall ball. The fact that someone isn't on Express A means absolutely nothing! I've seen it with my older son. He caught up and is blowing away the kids that were on the tops 6th grade teams at his time. Have fun. A lot of kids quit at older ages.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


All of them have tryouts posted here and/or on their websites. I recommend you read their tryout thread here then check their websites and read more about their coaches and directors. IF you have any questions then email or call them - that's the best and most direct way to get information about each club now that you have a list. Asking here for specifics will always cause different opinions based on experience.
Hit men? Recon doing major name dropping on this forum
Any thing on fl$. They are starting a Nassau team this year would would be good for us. Any info from the suffolk team, cost, pract schedule, tournements, etc would be appricated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Those are the only ones that you're allowed to mention on this site... All decent choices though


Why are they the only ones allowed to be mentioned? Do clubs have to pay to be mentioned or pay not to be?
What do you mean "major name dropping", please explain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Those are the only ones that you're allowed to mention on this site... All decent choices though


Why are they the only ones allowed to be mentioned? Do clubs have to pay to be mentioned or pay not to be?


Certain clubs that have a track record of being good on the field but are "Money Whores" or not so honest are blocked for example: fl$ , Legacy and 91
As a "Recon Daddy" I'll say this . I am very happy with this years progress. We are a first year team that kicked some butt. We were a B+ level but progressing. You can call it name dropping if you want but I was happy with the coaching, happy with game day support, happy with the parents, happy with training.The parents are all fun. My one critique would be that I would like to see more practices.
Other good teams out there with great coaching.
Those clubs are Good teams but B teams. If your son is above average then maybe aim for an A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Other good teams out there with great coaching.

Is this a question or statement?
Fact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact.


That's what I am.looking to kmow. Why not share what some of these teams are?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fact.


That's what I am.looking to kmow. Why not share what some of these teams are?


Not allowed. People probably have, the admins just edit them or delete them.
Yup
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Those are the only ones that you're allowed to mention on this site... All decent choices though


Why are they the only ones allowed to be mentioned? Do clubs have to pay to be mentioned or pay not to be?


Certain clubs that have a track record of being good on the field but are "Money Whores" or not so honest are blocked for example: fl$ , Legacy and 91


Every club charges as much as they think can get. Clubs with a history of winning and quality training options can charge more than clubs that don't necessarily attract the most skilled players or have the resources to offer other intangibles.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Those are the only ones that you're allowed to mention on this site... All decent choices though


Why are they the only ones allowed to be mentioned? Do clubs have to pay to be mentioned or pay not to be?


Certain clubs that have a track record of being good on the field but are "Money Whores" or not so honest are blocked for example: fl$ , Legacy and 91


Every club charges as much as they think can get. Clubs with a history of winning and quality training options can charge more than clubs that don't necessarily attract the most skilled players or have the resources to offer other intangibles.


They're all "money whores". This site just has a crooked agenda regarding the teams that can be mentioned. That's why no one mentions the team that they support.
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.
I know a few people who went , pretty solid turn out for a new team . Some grades stronger then others . I think it's worth a shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


If you've been around travel lacrosse at all you would know $350 is not realistic for a team to charge and provide all of the things you mentioned. Maybe when they started they did not have a realistic handle on cost and truly wanted to keep cost down but once the numbers were ran it was simply not sustainable.

Come on $350 for:
1. Helmet $200
2. Uni/swag $70
3. Practice facility $150 per kid
4. Winter League $80 per kid
5. Spring tournament $65 per kid

You can say what you want but do you really expect a organization to run at a deficit come on.
Very nice turnout for the supplemental tryouts at the Igloo camp last night, saw about 30 kids there!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very nice turnout for the supplemental tryouts at the Igloo camp last night, saw about 30 kids there!


Any of the team going to follow the coach to his next team?
BM to IGLOO???????
WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM to IGLOO???????


I hear it's either 91 Warriors or Legacy. Either way; those teams will be much better under his style of coaching.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!


AA would be smart to grab him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


If you've been around travel lacrosse at all you would know $350 is not realistic for a team to charge and provide all of the things you mentioned. Maybe when they started they did not have a realistic handle on cost and truly wanted to keep cost down but once the numbers were ran it was simply not sustainable.

Come on $350 for:
1. Helmet $200
2. Uni/swag $70
3. Practice facility $150 per kid
4. Winter League $80 per kid
5. Spring tournament $65 per kid

You can say what you want but do you really expect a organization to run at a deficit come on.


Why are you on the 2023 forum if your son tried out for 2025?
Since you have all this insite, and since it seems to be who your comments are centered around, i assume your son plays for levittown too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very nice turnout for the supplemental tryouts at the Igloo camp last night, saw about 30 kids there!


Any of the team going to follow the coach to his next team?




Many would if they knew where he went.
Igloo coach will never hand over his show
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo coach will never hand over his show


Who the heck is BM? BIG Mac?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very nice turnout for the supplemental tryouts at the Igloo camp last night, saw about 30 kids there!


Agreed. Ton more than 2024. People must know there is an issue there.
you should stop trolling back of cage and stay in your cage in eastmeadow your info is true trust me
Mr. Bowel Movement
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


If you've been around travel lacrosse at all you would know $350 is not realistic for a team to charge and provide all of the things you mentioned. Maybe when they started they did not have a realistic handle on cost and truly wanted to keep cost down but once the numbers were ran it was simply not sustainable.

Come on $350 for:
1. Helmet $200
2. Uni/swag $70
3. Practice facility $150 per kid
4. Winter League $80 per kid
5. Spring tournament $65 per kid

You can say what you want but do you really expect a organization to run at a deficit come on.


Why are you on the 2023 forum if your son tried out for 2025?
Since you have all this insite, and since it seems to be who your comments are centered around, i assume your son plays for levittown too.


Relax. Someone can give an opinion without you jumping in. He was there an was responding to the turnout question, and added something about the 2023 coach.
meant to say not true
but your not speaking the truth so why come on boc and talk oh wait thats how you roll your opinion is miss info you have no clue
Your opinion is based on misinformation you get while drinking with Ltown boys. Can you say "sour grapes". I guess you troll botc when your bored in the cage you work at in East Meadow. Have a nice day bluefish daddy!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


If you've been around travel lacrosse at all you would know $350 is not realistic for a team to charge and provide all of the things you mentioned. Maybe when they started they did not have a realistic handle on cost and truly wanted to keep cost down but once the numbers were ran it was simply not sustainable.

Come on $350 for:
1. Helmet $200
2. Uni/swag $70
3. Practice facility $150 per kid
4. Winter League $80 per kid
5. Spring tournament $65 per kid

You can say what you want but do you really expect a organization to run at a deficit come on.


Why are you on the 2023 forum if your son tried out for 2025?
Since you have all this insite, and since it seems to be who your comments are centered around, i assume your son plays for levittown too.


Relax. Someone can give an opinion without you jumping in. He was there an was responding to the turnout question, and added something about the 2023 coach.


When statement is said, "I was told, and you never know what is true." You are posting just to stir the pot. What this site really needs is more unreliable info being posted and throwing peoples names in the mad. Poat facts and sources,r Just my opinion though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very nice turnout for the supplemental tryouts at the Igloo camp last night, saw about 30 kids there!


Any of the team going to follow the coach to his next team?

Nope. Entire team staying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM to IGLOO???????


I hear it's either 91 Warriors or Legacy. Either way; those teams will be much better under his style of coaching.



Either 91-War or Leg.
Any of the team going to follow the coach to his next team?[/quote]
Nope. Entire team staying. [/quote]

Yeah I'm not so sure about that...
If entire team is staying why are you having tryouts? So there are no open spots? Glad I wasted my time last night.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was anyone at the 24 tryout? How was the turnout? Missed the first but thinking about the 2nd session.


My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


If you've been around travel lacrosse at all you would know $350 is not realistic for a team to charge and provide all of the things you mentioned. Maybe when they started they did not have a realistic handle on cost and truly wanted to keep cost down but once the numbers were ran it was simply not sustainable.

Come on $350 for:
1. Helmet $200
2. Uni/swag $70
3. Practice facility $150 per kid
4. Winter League $80 per kid
5. Spring tournament $65 per kid

You can say what you want but do you really expect a organization to run at a deficit come on.


Why are you on the 2023 forum if your son tried out for 2025?
Since you have all this insite, and since it seems to be who your comments are centered around, i assume your son plays for levittown too.


Relax. Someone can give an opinion without you jumping in. He was there an was responding to the turnout question, and added something about the 2023 coach.


Thank you ! I will explain a bit for all the bashers .I have a 2025 a 2023 and a 2020 so I look at all the boards. I spoke to one of your 24 coaches who advised me of the possibility of your 2023 coach SS leaving. I went to the tryout because it was billed as a more cost effective club which it isn't. I didnt say it wouldnt be good nor did I say I expected anyone to take a loss on a business. Not every comment made is a bash. I stated what I saw and clearly noted that what I was told may or may not have been true. If it isnt true then I'm glad he's staying for you he seems like a nice guy. People need to relax.
They are having tryouts because they are opening a second team for this age group
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are having tryouts because they are opening a second team for this age group


who-igloo?
Yes Igloo 2 teams, it''s up on thier wed site, Black Diamond and Nordic Edge is the other, thanks
BM will pull kids from 91,S2S and HB.
24 team was sponsored last year because they couldn't ask parents from bluefish to pay for a second team. At $1600 you are not going to get players from other A programs that were guests last year and if you are paying that you certainly don't want those boys guest playing while your boy sits. Not going to work.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a "Recon Daddy" I'll say this . I am very happy with this years progress. We are a first year team that kicked some butt. We were a B+ level but progressing. You can call it name dropping if you want but I was happy with the coaching, happy with game day support, happy with the parents, happy with training.The parents are all fun. My one critique would be that I would like to see more practices.



Thanks for the info - Definitely seems to be a lot of Recon parents and/or coaches in here hyping it up.  Glad the ones that posted said they like Recon, but still have constructive criticism, hopefully they use it.  Seems several other people also posted about issues with practices being scares and irregular. Does seem to be a constant theme though of new startup teams, Recon similar to Bluefish and a few others, dont practice often.  Hard to depict if a programs is just about the money "money whores" or really want to focus on the kids development, in this day in age.   Dont know how you have a competitive travel team, though, with that little of practices. Practice is key to players/team development, unless like other are saying, mostly Levitown kids, so they have already played together.   Bluefish show two coaches and recon three coaches are listed on there site for Recon 2023, but someone said there were two only actually there.  Anyone know if these coaches are staying, are they actual coaches or parent coaches?
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?
My son tried out for 2025 which had an ok turn out. 2024 had a ton of kids.I would say for the other other grades they had maybe 2-8 kids tops. I was told, and you never know what is true, that the coach for 2023 has decided to stay with Bluefish 2024 instead of 24 since they already anticipate no 2023 or 2025 team. The cost raise from what was promised to us by Filacamo last year $350 included uni, helmet for the winter league and 1 spring tourney is now $1600 for a similar schedule. Doesn't jive for me. I feel like I got bait and switched.


Similar Schedule????? This year 7 Tourneys plus all the above mentioned plus additional training plus additional equipment. If team 24 isn't for you then shut your mouth and move on. You clearly have an agenda. Are you one of those Thawk tools starting you own team and feel you own your town team kids. Lincoln freed the slaves so kids can play where they want.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a "Recon Daddy" I'll say this . I am very happy with this years progress. We are a first year team that kicked some butt. We were a B+ level but progressing. You can call it name dropping if you want but I was happy with the coaching, happy with game day support, happy with the parents, happy with training.The parents are all fun. My one critique would be that I would like to see more practices.



Thanks for the info - Definitely seems to be a lot of Recon parents and/or coaches in here hyping it up.  Glad the ones that posted said they like Recon, but still have constructive criticism, hopefully they use it.  Seems several other people also posted about issues with practices being scares and irregular. Does seem to be a constant theme though of new startup teams, Recon similar to Bluefish and a few others, dont practice often.  Hard to depict if a programs is just about the money "money whores" or really want to focus on the kids development, in this day in age.   Dont know how you have a competitive travel team, though, with that little of practices. Practice is key to players/team development, unless like other are saying, mostly Levitown kids, so they have already played together.   Bluefish show two coaches and recon three coaches are listed on there site for Recon 2023, but someone said there were two only actually there.  Anyone know if these coaches are staying, are they actual coaches or parent coaches?

It looked like the 2023 Bluefish coaches couldn't wait for the season to end.
Because a team cost $1600 they don't have "A" players. Are you serious??? My son played on a $600 town travel team and an play with any of these so called "A" player. He regularly schooled these "A" players from 91, Igloo, Express so I don't want to hear about $ dictating a players skill level. If you follow that thought pattern then you are a FOOL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM will pull kids from 91,S2S and HB.


No doubt. There will be alot of shuffling this year with this grade. With igloo coach jumping ship, the nonesense with HB, BM coaching with Legac-y and new teams popping up. Kids should go check out these other tryouts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BM will pull kids from 91,S2S and HB.


No doubt. There will be alot of shuffling this year with this grade. With igloo coach jumping ship, the nonesense with HB, BM coaching with Legac-y and new teams popping up. Kids should go check out these other tryouts.

This is comical!! BM you can do better!
I thought S2S was an invite only team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought S2S was an invite only team?


Shhhhhhhhh
Any feedback on this week's tryout clinics? Worth going?
Who is BM ?
igloo is trying so hard
Is this an informational site or do we just bash teams and coaches?
What does that mean?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any feedback on this week's tryout clinics? Worth going?


Money grab. Not worth it !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?


He's the Ex Express Honey Badger coach who basically built that team from ground up. He didn't coach last year because of some issues with existing coach AJ. Different coaching styles/philosophy. He's supposedly coaching 2023's with Zummo over at Legecy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?


Some surprising helmets there last night - should be interesting...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because a team cost $1600 they don't have "A" players. Are you serious??? My son played on a $600 town travel team and an play with any of these so called "A" player. He regularly schooled these "A" players from 91, Igloo, Express so I don't want to hear about $ dictating a players skill level. If you follow that thought pattern then you are a FOOL.


There are no $600 town travel teams that I know of. But I'm glad he can school those A players regularly. Lol!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?


Former Express coach and nut-job.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?


He's the Ex Express Honey Badger coach who basically built that team from ground up. He didn't coach last year because of some issues with existing coach AJ. Different coaching styles/philosophy. He's supposedly coaching 2023's with Zummo over at Legecy.


That's not the true. Zummo has no interest in bringing him on and the current coaching staff is staying assembled as-is. Nice try, BM... But no one wants your psychopath coaching style ruining their team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?


Some surprising helmets there last night - should be interesting...


Really must suck for the kids that left their old teams to start S2S. They were a good team. Now some of those kids will be bumped for better players. Rule #1: No team will ever be loyal to your child.
Do your research cupcake. I guess you are one of those fools who think the price of a team = talent. LOl I have a bridge I want to sell you. My kid will be fine as he comes from a good lax family which consists of D1 national Champs and Pro players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do your research cupcake. I guess you are one of those fools who think the price of a team = talent. LOl I have a bridge I want to sell you. My kid will be fine as he comes from a good lax family which consists of D1 national Champs and Pro players.


Oh, my bad. Sorry.. I didn't mean to offend you, Mr. Gait. Lol! You're kidding yourself!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is BM ?


Former Express coach and nut-job.



BM has no interest in coaching. But if he did, and you want your kid to improve, he should be playing for him The guy puts in countless hours with the kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?


Some surprising helmets there last night - should be interesting...


Really must suck for the kids that left their old teams to start S2S. They were a good team. Now some of those kids will be bumped for better players. Rule #1: No team will ever be loyal to your child.

I thought S2S was started to keep the Manhasset kids together? And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?


Some surprising helmets there last night - should be interesting...


Really must suck for the kids that left their old teams to start S2S. They were a good team. Now some of those kids will be bumped for better players. Rule #1: No team will ever be loyal to your child.

I thought S2S was started to keep the Manhasset kids together? And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up.


What's helmets were you seeing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any word on how the S2S tryouts went? Good talent?


Some surprising helmets there last night - should be interesting...


Really must suck for the kids that left their old teams to start S2S. They were a good team. Now some of those kids will be bumped for better players. Rule #1: No team will ever be loyal to your child.

I thought S2S was started to keep the Manhasset kids together? And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up.


What's helmets were you seeing?


It's all about the $$$$.
And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up. [/quote]

There was not a tryout - just a practice with friends...
s2s need to take the better players how are they going to be able to compete
Bengals may have that age group this year but they are only 2 years old as a program and from what I know only had 1 boys team last year which was mostly Wantagh PAL players that weren't on the tribe.

Recon has been around longer than Hitmen, not sure how long their 2023 has been together but as a program they've been around the longest from that list. But they are in the Plainview area.

Hitmen the team you mentioned is more South Shore in the Wantagh, Seaford, Merrick, Bellmore, Levittown area. So it depends how close you are to either of these programs in terms of travel for practices.
No worries sweet pea. Go sit in the parking lot with all the other drunk dads and talk about the good old days. Don't forget to wear your varsity jacket.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs


Say what you want about the organization, but express white has a good guy that did wonders from the fall to the summer. Wasn't competitive in a lot of games, but he taught them well. Bigger question rk is what that organization chooses as a priority this year.
[quote=Anonymous]Bengals may have that age group this year but they are only 2 years old as a program and from what I know only had 1 boys team last year which was mostly Wantagh PAL players that weren't on the tribe.

Recon has been around longer than Hitmen, not sure how long their 2023 has been together but as a program they've been around the longest from that list. But they are in the Plainview area.

Hitmen the team you mentioned is more South Shore in the Wantagh, Seaford, Merrick, Bellmore, Levittown area. So it depends how close you are to either of these programs in terms of travel for


No bengals team team this age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up.


There was not a tryout - just a practice with friends... [/quote]

Practice with friends.....are you buying that BS?? S2S is goingoing to have to have a tryout eventually. If it isn't this year it will happen next year. The RVC kids will get the boot first. To stay competitive with the "A" teams they will need the best of the best. They don't have that in all spots now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs


Say what you want about the organization, but express white has a good guy that did wonders from the fall to the summer. Wasn't competitive in a lot of games, but he taught them well. Bigger question rk is what that organization chooses as a priority this year.


The coach is a decent guy but the improvement came from kids that got put on the B team with 30+ asking to be moved because they never played! Is MC was smarter he would have evened out that team and actually cut kids instead of being a greedy SOB
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And now they're having tryouts to replace them?? Doesn't add up.


There was not a tryout - just a practice with friends...


Practice with friends.....are you buying that BS?? S2S is goingoing to have to have a tryout eventually. If it isn't this year it will happen next year. The RVC kids will get the boot first. To stay competitive with the "A" teams they will need the best of the best. They don't have that in all spots now. [/quote]

They fed a plateful of lies and you all ate it up. They did have tryouts. Unfortunately, they can't attract better players than they gave now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs


Say what you want about the organization, but express white has a good guy that did wonders from the fall to the summer. Wasn't competitive in a lot of games, but he taught them well. Bigger question rk is what that organization chooses as a priority this year.


The coach is a decent guy but the improvement came from kids that got put on the B team with 30+ asking to be moved because they never played! Is MC was smarter he would have evened out that team and actually cut kids instead of being a greedy SOB


Yes, was done all wrong and to make more $. Wonder if they will do it again. I'd like to think parents wouldn't fall for it again, myself included. A lot of money to pay for an obvious cash cow. Frankly a lot of bad lacrosse played but I thought everyone improved. Good kids and mostly good parents. I left it up to my son and he wants to tryout again. Let's see what the organization does and that will help us make up or minds.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a travel club to try out for, live on the south shore. My son is an above average player. Any suggestions, best 5 clubs?

Hitmen
Bengals
Recon
Sharks
Bluefish


Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs


Say what you want about the organization, but express white has a good guy that did wonders from the fall to the summer. Wasn't competitive in a lot of games, but he taught them well. Bigger question rk is what that organization chooses as a priority this year.


The coach is a decent guy but the improvement came from kids that got put on the B team with 30+ asking to be moved because they never played! Is MC was smarter he would have evened out that team and actually cut kids instead of being a greedy SOB


Yes, was done all wrong and to make more $. Wonder if they will do it again. I'd like to think parents wouldn't fall for it again, myself included. A lot of money to pay for an obvious cash cow. Frankly a lot of bad lacrosse played but I thought everyone improved. Good kids and mostly good parents. I left it up to my son and he wants to tryout again. Let's see what the organization does and that will help us make up or minds.


Why would you subject yourself to that again? It's a known fact Express is nothing more than a money [lacrosse] that exploits parents at the expense of young kids. They do it at every grade. Go to another club where your kids will get the attention they deserve snd need. Channy puts his name
On every team and brings 25-30 kids to games. It's ridiculous. He could care less.

Anyother teams worth mentioning, even for a more of a developmental team.
Do the Bengals even have a 2023 team? Beside the Hitmen, are there any other longer standing clubs in the nassau or nassau/suffolk boarder. The other teamside listed all seem to be brand new teams/clubs[/quote]

Say what you want about the organization, but express white has a good guy that did wonders from the fall to the summer. Wasn't competitive in a lot of games, but he taught them well. Bigger question rk is what that organization chooses as a priority this year. [/quote]

The coach is a decent guy but the improvement came from kids that got put on the B team with 30+ asking to be moved because they never played! Is MC was smarter he would have evened out that team and actually cut kids instead of being a greedy SOB[/quote]

Yes, was done all wrong and to make more $. Wonder if they will do it again. I'd like to think parents wouldn't fall for it again, myself included. A lot of money to pay for an obvious cash cow. Frankly a lot of bad lacrosse played but I thought everyone improved. Good kids and mostly good parents. I left it up to my son and he wants to tryout again. Let's see what the organization does and that will help us make up or minds.[/quote]

Why would you subject yourself to that again? It's a known fact Express is nothing more than a money [lacrosse] that exploits parents at the expense of young kids. They do it at every grade. Go to another club where your kids will get the attention they deserve snd need. Channy puts his name
On every team and brings 25-30 kids to games. It's ridiculous. He could care less. [/quote]

I agree about the comments about thr org. However, my son did improve and had fun. For the most part we will leave the decision up to him, with our advice. He's a smart kid. His skills level also not high so I have to be realistic about what teams he can make. But if it is evident the same b.s. will happen again I will just tell him no to that team. Such a shame we can't let our kids who play choose where they want to play based on lacrosse alone.
Let's face it any team that has more than 20 kids on it with two goalies is a money grab. For the life of me I can't figure it out why anyone from a boys program would spend the amounts of $ on a team where they have more than two lines. It is insane to subject your kid to that. Look elsewhere or demand that rosters stay at 20 or less.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's face it any team that has more than 20 kids on it with two goalies is a money grab. For the life of me I can't figure it out why anyone from a boys program would spend the amounts of $ on a team where they have more than two lines. It is insane to subject your kid to that. Look elsewhere or demand that rosters stay at 20 or less.


Agree 100%. 22 should be that absolute most. Any more kids only get to play very little of the game and it's not far to them. Get a roster doesnt really help bc team will bring kids on after tryout and mid season to play. Teams shouldn't do that, but again it's about the money and connections. My theory is, if a club did it once to you, they will do it again. Hard to take most of these club owners and coaches at there word when things like that happen. Seeing team with 25-30 kids on the sideline is sad, b.C most of the kids, whether there studs or not, want to play more then 2 min in a 40 min game.
You are so right ,mydpn was on a team with 30 kids and only the 4 supper stars got to play more than 2-3 minutes .
6-7 middies, 5 attack, 5 defense, 2 goalies would be ideal, I think. With those numbers, everyone plays. For the most part, if a team carries 3 full middie lines, middies 7-9 don't see the field unless they're d-mids anyway.
Start up teams take who they can get for first season. If a player leaves after that, then that's on them. Coaches and kids want to be competitive, so you go out and fill the holes. No surprises. NO one knows what goes on behind the scenes and how much time and effort goes into building a program. (I am not a coach) If a program is cheating, that's not right, but bashing a program based on speculation is not healthy. A lot of the club programs issues stem directly from US Lacrosse. Face it, they need to get a handle on things.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Start up teams take who they can get for first season. If a player leaves after that, then that's on them. Coaches and kids want to be competitive, so you go out and fill the holes. No surprises. NO one knows what goes on behind the scenes and how much time and effort goes into building a program. (I am not a coach) If a program is cheating, that's not right, but bashing a program based on speculation is not healthy. A lot of the club programs issues stem directly from US Lacrosse. Face it, they need to get a handle on things.


Do you have a kid that plays on a travel team??? The money grab is fairly common. You have to pay to try out for God sake. That in and of itself is a money grab!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Start up teams take who they can get for first season. If a player leaves after that, then that's on them. Coaches and kids want to be competitive, so you go out and fill the holes. No surprises. NO one knows what goes on behind the scenes and how much time and effort goes into building a program. (I am not a coach) If a program is cheating, that's not right, but bashing a program based on speculation is not healthy. A lot of the club programs issues stem directly from US Lacrosse. Face it, they need to get a handle on things.


Do you have a kid that plays on a travel team??? The money grab is fairly common. You have to pay to try out for God sake. That in and of itself is a money grab!!


Even worse is this new "pre-tryout" workout that Express charged $150 for. Joke. Channy is an AH
So according to latest Outlaw message, 2023 black already changed a coach that from what was originally told to us only a week ago. One of the new coaches is the coach that quit the 2023 select team after a month. He couldn't handle coaching two teams and his high school team. So now he will have the time or will he never show up like he did With select. He is listed as the 2018 coach also. New year same old BS.
First year doing travel. My kid is a goalie. I would say solid B/B+ skill level. Thoughts on teams that actually put time into their goalies? Looking to continue to develop his skills.
That coach is NOT with 2023 Black(Was re sent out after)
What other club has posted every coach for coming season?
Keep complaining - Guess nothing better going on in your life


For goalies try to get on a team that plays the highest level of competition. AA completion shots are faster and more accurate. A level below that and B level and below shots are softer and less accurate and many times right at the goale. Goalies are better off on a lower level AA team or an A team that plays AA teams too where he will see a lot of shots. I have seen many young goalies playing on the best teams not see shots in the younger years and by 7 or 8 grade they are on B teams. To see which teams give goalie training you have to look at the web sites. I think the cold spring harbor located team we are not allowed to mention here and the starts with an F has goalie training. You are much better off getting personal one on one rather than trust any club with training a goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
First year doing travel. My kid is a goalie. I would say solid B/B+ skill level. Thoughts on teams that actually put time into their goalies? Looking to continue to develop his skills.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For goalies try to get on a team that plays the highest level of competition. AA completion shots are faster and more accurate. A level below that and B level and below shots are softer and less accurate and many times right at the goale. Goalies are better off on a lower level AA team or an A team that plays AA teams too where he will see a lot of shots. I have seen many young goalies playing on the best teams not see shots in the younger years and by 7 or 8 grade they are on B teams. To see which teams give goalie training you have to look at the web sites. I think the cold spring harbor located team we are not allowed to mention here and the starts with an F has goalie training. You are much better off getting personal one on one rather than trust any club with training a goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
First year doing travel. My kid is a goalie. I would say solid B/B+ skill level. Thoughts on teams that actually put time into their goalies? Looking to continue to develop his skills.


It's not about the level of the team. Your kid will get better from the coaching and training.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Start up teams take who they can get for first season. If a player leaves after that, then that's on them. Coaches and kids want to be competitive, so you go out and fill the holes. No surprises. NO one knows what goes on behind the scenes and how much time and effort goes into building a program. (I am not a coach) If a program is cheating, that's not right, but bashing a program based on speculation is not healthy. A lot of the club programs issues stem directly from US Lacrosse. Face it, they need to get a handle on things.


Who is speculating anything? All you have to do is look at the sideline of any tournements and you can see 15 kids sitting, and that not right for a new program or not. Its not that kids are.leavin and holes are being filled, if the roster starts at 20 kids in the fall, and by the summer you have 26, something is up.
Early prediction for Top 3 teams 2016/2017 ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Early prediction for Top 3 teams 2016/2017 ?


For the love of God. Get a life! Are u a HB parent? A Bandits parent? Feel free to answer yourself and put little Johnny's team on the list.
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Express
Igloo
Heard from a very reliable source that HB Express is not going to change the team at all. Such BS. Alot of coaches favorite relationships on that team. Was told Don't waste your money on tryouts. Plenty of equally good clubs out there and with some of the coaching changes like with Igloo; those other clubs will be building great competitive teams where your son will be in at the ground floor.

Outlaws
Legacy
Bluefish
Empire
Reliable source!!! Lol. I heard that 5 new kids are coming to the HB'ers and they are already hand picked so I agree not wasting your money. Igloo still doesn't have a head coach? Why so long? Money grab before the new coach comes in with his players? A lot of rotten things going on over there!!!! Why do these programs keep losing coaches? Never a good sign
Who is going to be head coach for igloo?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reliable source!!! Lol. I heard that 5 new kids are coming to the HB'ers and they are already hand picked so I agree not wasting your money. Igloo still doesn't have a head coach? Why so long? Money grab before the new coach comes in with his players? A lot of rotten things going on over there!!!! Why do these programs keep losing coaches? Never a good sign



The team has 22 kids to begin with and nobody is leaving so maybe Channy will add 5 to make it a 27 kid roster. Bad situation but typical Express move.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is going to be head coach for igloo?


No new coach worth talking about. The Dads are going to run the team. Run away as fast as you can. 7
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is going to be head coach for igloo?


No new coach worth talking about. The Dads are going to run the team. Run away as fast as you can. 7


The igloo way. Same at 2024, 2026. If AA was smart he would put his name and Cromwell on these younger teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reliable source!!! Lol. I heard that 5 new kids are coming to the HB'ers and they are already hand picked so I agree not wasting your money. Igloo still doesn't have a head coach? Why so long? Money grab before the new coach comes in with his players? A lot of rotten things going on over there!!!! Why do these programs keep losing coaches? Never a good sign



The team has 22 kids to begin with and nobody is leaving so maybe Channy will add 5 to make it a 27 kid roster. Bad situation but typical Express move.

Sounds like Channy...$10G more for him
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reliable source!!! Lol. I heard that 5 new kids are coming to the HB'ers and they are already hand picked so I agree not wasting your money. Igloo still doesn't have a head coach? Why so long? Money grab before the new coach comes in with his players? A lot of rotten things going on over there!!!! Why do these programs keep losing coaches? Never a good sign



The team has 22 kids to begin with and nobody is leaving so maybe Channy will add 5 to make it a 27 kid roster. Bad situation but typical Express move.


There are at least 5 kids trying out for other teams, so they will need to be replaced. BM is shopping his kid and two others if a team will let him coach. Igloo is a good team in a really poorly run club. HB's are the same. Find a team with stability and your kid will be better off.
2023 Express Haugen team will be gaining a few holdbacks this upcoming year. This move is in place already. Try outs are mainly for the the two other teams. Join the revolution!!!!! When the holdbacks show up at tryouts, a few parents will be disappointed that there kid will now be regulated to the bench and they will leave and follow BM to Legacy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is going to be head coach for igloo?


No new coach worth talking about. The Dads are going to run the team. Run away as fast as you can. 7


The igloo way. Same at 2024, 2026. If AA was smart he would put his name and Cromwell on these younger teams.


AA or KC should have taken the team from the start. They would be a rising Black Ice team if he had . Tons of talent in this age. Every year is a major change. Inconsistent coaching. Not good. Bdits are who they are today because core of team has been together for years with minor adjustments along the way. But always same coach!!!!
I feel bad for people who value these comments in search of a club. Call one of the club directors and or a coach, any club worth the money will answer any questions you have.
Who ever follows BM anywhere is an absolute idiot. Don't do it to your kid trust a few 100 people who feel this way. And BM we all know it's you writing about yourself that's the scary part(metal issues).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Express Haugen team will be gaining a few holdbacks this upcoming year. This move is in place already. Try outs are mainly for the the two other teams. Join the revolution!!!!! When the holdbacks show up at tryouts, a few parents will be disappointed that there kid will now be regulated to the bench and they will leave and follow BM to Legacy


BM is not going to Tornados. Looking to go to a top club still.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who ever follows BM anywhere is an absolute idiot. Don't do it to your kid trust a few 100 people who feel this way. And BM we all know it's you writing about yourself that's the scary part(metal issues).


The same 1 angry HB parent trying to make it sound like it's the
Majority AGAIN. Your case is getting old. Can't fight a good record. The guy knows how to win. He'll find out how to do the same for whichever club he coaches for. Parents would be stupid not to look into the club he lands at.
Nobody cares about some guy named BM. Stop posting info on this guy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2023 Express Haugen team will be gaining a few holdbacks this upcoming year. This move is in place already. Try outs are mainly for the the two other teams. Join the revolution!!!!! When the holdbacks show up at tryouts, a few parents will be disappointed that there kid will now be regulated to the bench and they will leave and follow BM to Legacy


BM is not going to Tornados. Looking to go to a top club still.


interesting because his name is listed by legacy as a coach
And bringing 3 mids with him. Plus their guest player from two weeks ago and that essentially means all new mids for that team. Interesting. How were they last year? I never got to see them play?
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