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I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Can you be guaranteed money in early recruiting? I thought that until the letter comes for your kid to sign, any amount discussed earlier may not be the same. Do coaches actually guarantee certain amount of money to a 9th grader?

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Coaches jobs are on the line. I think many of the coaches who have embraced early recruiting are on the hot seat. Look at the schools with the most early recruits most dont make the final 4. When you dont have skin in the game of course there is no risk. Its the livelihood for these coaches. I feel that many do it just not to miss the studs but I also think for the late bloomer that has the skill to play lacrosse at the highest level gets picked up in 11th and 12 grade. This has resulted in the parody we see today.

I don't know how you can say a child hitting puberty early doesn't effect athletic ability. I have seen it time and time again when a player who is more mature physically is deemed the best player on a team in 5th even 6th grade because he hits puberty a bit earlier than most. He is bigger faster and a bit more skilled because of the testosterone kicking in because of puberty. Have you ever seen that long gangly kid tripping over his feet at 12 but at 14 he's more coordinated. Well it has to do with puberty and getting comfortable with your body and its overall development. Eventually the playing field evens out usually by 9th to 10th grade but it does happen. In 7th grade there was a player that was 5 inches taller than my son and you could see he was more physically developed hair on his face and legs. Well its now 10th grade and my son is a full head taller and bigger so on that 50/50 ball where that player used to win 80% of the time when they were younger now my son wins it 80%. Not saying the kids skill has diminished or my son became a superstar but as puberty kicks in a whole new physicality sets in and it does change a player overall.

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

Agreed. I think players get a lot more athletic when they hit puberty, quite apart from size.

If recruiting gets pushed back, then what I hope is that the very athletic, highly skilled kid who hits puberty late is no longer shut out of the ER game. A world where recruiting classes are full before the kids even play a HS game as a sophomore is crazy, as is a world where prospect days aren't even open to juniors.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

It could mean 1/2 of total cost or 1/2 of tuition. Depends on the school. It is illegal for a school to offer instate tuition to an out of state player. One coach just got fired for doing that.

Out of state costs are roughly twice as much as in state. So these kids are committing at 15 years old based on a promise to give them the equivalent of in state tuition? Congrats.

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

That's not always true. Some nlis specify the amount is guaranteed for 4 years. Yes I have seen this in writing!

Academic always more valuable that athletic....skip your club practice and go to SAT class!

Merry Christmas everyone.

Looks like several top 2020 teams are too scared to face Madlax 2020 at the National Club Championships.

Weather's great. We'll be dominating as expected.

Looks like several top 2020 teams are too scared to face Madlax 2020 at the National Club Championships.

Weather's great. We'll be dominating as expected.

wow you're an [lacrosse].

Yeahhh, uh huh, yeahh, what up? People keepin it reeeeal up in da clip o' what?