Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

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Igloo 2021 would not beat any of the top 2020 Long Island teams. You can take that to the bank if you think they would have your coach call any of the top 3 coaches and schedule your [lacrosse] whooping!!! Talk is cheap igloo dad.

A lot of the 2021 igloo team are hold backs. That's a fact

Whos talking? You are the first post. Lets try to get off on the right foot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of the 2021 igloo team are hold backs. That's a fact

You could have combined those two posts but decided to make two.. hmmm

Igloo 2021 team don't call yourself at 7 th grade team with present kids that are going into 8th grade that's a fact ... Huntington Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo 2021 team don't call yourself at 7 th grade team with present kids that are going into 8th grade that's a fact ... Huntington Dad

Hey, Dude, what's your major malfunction? Sounds like you really need a hug.

Admit it, we all know your roster, you have kids going into 8th! Period!

Looking for a Good Travel Team / best bang for the buck so to speak. 2019 / 2020, Can anyone give me any incite to how much Legacy cost last year, and how was the personal experience on the team or teams with their sons. Thanks

If you register you can PM me and I'll fill you in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a Good Travel Team / best bang for the buck so to speak. 2019 / 2020, Can anyone give me any incite to how much Legacy cost last year, and how was the personal experience on the team or teams with their sons. Thanks

What do you want for your son? how are you evaluating cost/benefit? Are you looking at only the summer or the program cost for the full year?

Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.

Are your upgrades in the form if holdbacks? Would you be willing to play in age based tournaments?

crush is screwed also for age based....lol

Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.

age based U-15 as no player turn 15 until june 2016 is that fair..

June No [lacrosse]...us lax cutoff 9/1 ur boys that run 91 change the rules to help themselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush is screwed also for age based....lol

Why is that? What team does your son play for big mouth? Guess you are just another one of those crickets!

We get pushed down by our older teams ..we have no choice in the matter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush is screwed also for age based....lol

That's why I love this board.by now even the haters know it's not even remotely true but someone still posts that crush is older I love it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.

In New [lacrosse] the school cut off is 12/1 so in the rising 8th grade class the age appropriate kids are mostly born in 2002 with a handful of December babies. If a kid is born prior to 12/1/2001 he is a holdback. Your team's website also lauds the holdback nature of your entire program, so give it a rest already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.

In New [lacrosse] the school cut off is 12/1 so in the rising 8th grade class the age appropriate kids are mostly born in 2002 with a handful of December babies. If a kid is born prior to 12/1/2001 he is a holdback. Your team's website also lauds the holdback nature of your entire program, so give it a rest already.

Crush just got undressed!

we are playing 2020 no choice as we have a 2019 team so hopefully crush plays at the NYPLL.

Get a hold of the guys from Rising Sons. They are supposed to be hosting a fall and Spring play day like last year. They get the top clubs to come. I don't know who it goes to but the website email address is risingsonslax@yahoo.com

Originally Posted by Anonymous

June No [lacrosse]...us lax cutoff 9/1 ur boys that run 91 change the rules to help themselves

Crush has no issues with the age guidelines set by US Lax what so ever. But I guess... You collected the kids' birth certificates in a quest to disprove that? This conversation is so old.

I would say anyone looking to play the team should contact the coach- not post on here.

There is no such thing as U-14. It is U-13 followed by U-15

8th grade is the year that the holdbacks begin in earnest. It is the reason 8th grade goes U-15 instead of U-14.

The age cutoff is Sept 1st, 2000. Anyone born this date or later is eligible for U-15 play. The Maryland "AA" U-15 youth clubs also called 2020 clubs will be stocked with 8th graders born in late 2000 or early 2001. The Maryland clubs with "A" designation will generally be those boys who have not yet reclassified and are equivalent to U-14 teams.

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

before this shift to grade-based teams did you think the old system of u11,u13,u15 was "gross"?

I didn't make the gross comment but I for one did. Although I saw the necessity in some areas. Some areas didn't have the enrollment so they mix grades. When teams went by a U age system many times only the older players played while the younger ones got beat up and learned in practice. They waited their turn (the following year) when they were the older guys and the cycle continued.

not the best situation. the areas that are able to go grade base have the numbers and therefore have a bigger pool to pull and work with generally getting lucky talent wise too.

that said, I play my son up whenever possible, when it is our choice not someone elses.

Does anyone know the password for igloos game videos? We played them and my son wants to see if they have the game. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.

Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.

Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.

The holdback issue is real but exaggerated. None of the 2019's who have committed will be 20 when they graduate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.

Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.

The holdback issue is real but exaggerated. None of the 2019's who have committed will be 20 when they graduate.

Ok- they'll be 20 before they step on campus- is that better? Still ridiculous! My son will graduate at 18 and won't turn 19 until he's in his second semester of college- some won't turn 19 until they finish their first year- I'd say the exaggeration isn't quite that big. It is what it is- but Ithose underdog kids will get as far because they have a lot more grit and determination and those are qualities that will take them much further.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.

Isn't the cut-off date September 1 when talking about age based programs?

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

In New [lacrosse] he would be considered 2020...and one of the youngest in the grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.

I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

in MD the school cutoff is 9/1 so he'd automatically be 2021 and be on the older spectrum of 2021. It is a complete exaggeration that most prep schools or clubs would encourage fall birthdays to be held back. There is one baltimore school and a club that practices there that seems to encourage repeating 8th grade - with lacrosse or other sport part of the motivation. The prep schools that also have elementary almost always make summer bdays do prefirst. This is when they are 5-6 year old has less to do with sports and more to do with fleecing parents out of an additional year of tuition. Of course some parents are happy to pay that extra coin to make the oldest rather than youngest in class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.

I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.

Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.

I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.

Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on

U based is still 2 age brackets. A new model needs to be built around single year teams for youth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on

Most teams are formed for the combined Fall/Spring/Summer season (Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - is the same team). You can't change in the summer without also changing in the preceding fall. It is simply too messy for the club directors. This implies that the upcoming fall travel season is when you should see for the first time 2019s who are repeating 8th grade and are now 2020s. Since the 2015 summer season has ended even though your kid has not started 8th grade, unless he plans on reclassing you should start thinking of him on the club/recruiting circuit as a rising 9th grader right now.

The first 2020 will verbally commit well less than a year from now.

U-15 allows 2019 reclasses and 2020s to play together on the same team. Call it U-15 or call it 2020, it is the same thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

a nov birthday is either considered young or old for the grade; who are you trying to kid. If you believe in a lie long enough you believe it. Just like a march kid used to be considered on the older side in Ny... that is until people stated holding their kids back because they "weren't ready" for kindergarten.

the hold back is to give their kids an advantage at life whether social academic or athletic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on

Most teams are formed for the combined Fall/Spring/Summer season (Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - is the same team). You can't change in the summer without also changing in the preceding fall. It is simply too messy for the club directors. This implies that the upcoming fall travel season is when you should see for the first time 2019s who are repeating 8th grade and are now 2020s. Since the 2015 summer season has ended even though your kid has not started 8th grade, unless he plans on reclassing you should start thinking of him on the club/recruiting circuit as a rising 9th grader right now.

The first 2020 will verbally commit well less than a year from now.

U-15 allows 2019 reclasses and 2020s to play together on the same team. Call it U-15 or call it 2020, it is the same thing.

So maybe if the age guidelines were still in effect in 8th grade for the Fall and Summer, the reclass situation would not continue to grow, as the kids would have to still play within their age group the summer heading into HS. Might not be ideal for the coaches, but it levels the field a bit more and maintains safety for the younger, smaller kids playing age appropriately. Afterall, holdbacks play down for an advantage, you chip away at the advantage, and it may not continue to happen. A true talented player will stand out among his own aged peers, as well as the younger group. If they continue to want to reclass, they will get their advantage a year later and the coaches still get to see them play the younger kids.

7th

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

a nov birthday is either considered young or old for the grade; who are you trying to kid. If you believe in a lie long enough you believe it. Just like a march kid used to be considered on the older side in Ny... that is until people stated holding their kids back because they "weren't ready" for kindergarten.

the hold back is to give their kids an advantage at life whether social academic or athletic.

Enough with the whining about hold backs. If the kid is truly graduating in 2020 then let them play in that year. If they are not, then that is cheating and a different story. If parents think having their kid finish middle school with a drivers license is the best way to go, more power to them. I think it is moronic as you should just let kids be kids but that's the beauty of America, people are free to do what they want even if I think it is really stupid.

Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?

Heard it might be George Powers, Turtles coach. Should be interesting. Thinking they may be getting a lot of Pequa and Wantagh kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?

Heard it might be George Powers, Turtles coach. Should be interesting. Thinking they may be getting a lot of Pequa and Wantagh kids.

If it's a great coach, that's very good for the Nassau kids. Woukd be nice to have another A team in this year from Nassau.

True Blue is mostly Pequa kids. Viper mostly Bethpage kids. Both very good Nassau teams in this age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue is mostly Pequa kids. Viper mostly Bethpage kids. Both very good Nassau teams in this age group.

Viper last year was
Bethpage
Farmingdale
Port Washington
Hills
Plainedge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Crabs and fca most likely

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Crabs and fca most likely

In the Baltimore area

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Crabs and fca most likely

What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)

So what did the T91 MD tryouts look like today? What helmets were out there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Crabs and fca most likely

What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)

Crabs had a great season. They were 27-2 and played the best possible competition. Not too shabby and will likely be even better next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??

Crabs and fca most likely

What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)

Crabs had a great season. They were 27-2 and played the best possible competition. Not too shabby and will likely be even better next year.

Unfortunately everyone knows what they are so wherever they show up people will look and wonder which kids don't really belong there - tainted.

I don't know why someone keeps bringing up FCA, they were probably the 5th best team in the area after Crabs, Looneys, Hawks, and Breakers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what did the T91 MD tryouts look like today? What helmets were out there?

At 2020, Breakers, Crabs, Koopers helmets were most common but there were a lot of kids with many different helmets represented. A lot of coaches on the field to handle the number of kids trying out and they used both the upper and lower field at St Paul's for drills.

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

Fair enough I guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?

they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?

they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.

Sounds like their supremacy is preordained :-)

Better and older

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?

they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.

That is the only thing they have, they beat Looney's. News flash, spring league means nothing, it is there to prepare teams for tournament play. 2020 Looneys's had a great tournament season, only losing to 91 by one goal. Looney's played some of the top competition out of LI and overall was successful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.

They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.

They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!

What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.

You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?

So please enlighten me. When does it matter? I've been around the game a long time and don't think I have ever seen a youth lacrosse club game that mattered. Did the winners get free snowballs?

Is it true that the looneys face off kid is changing clubs or just rumors

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true that the looneys face off kid is changing clubs or just rumors

No, just FCA parents wishful thinking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team

But worse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team

But worse

Ok looneys daddy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team

But worse

Ok looneys daddy

I would never let my son play for that daddy ball organization

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.

Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team

But worse

Ok looneys daddy

I would never let my son play for that daddy ball organization

If looneys FO guy goes to another team their 2020 will pretty much be toast

If any key player left any team, the team would have to step up. That is what a team does. Love it when you nutty people say if this guy left or that guy left a team would be different. It is funny. If a qb left an NFL team they would be different too.

Fall ball will be interesting this year.

fall ball is never interesting, unless your talking about FootBall.

Is Bluefish a NEW team or have a few teams merged?

Bluefish is a fairly new club run by professionals. They are NOT affiliated with any other club.

Any 2020 teams playing fall ball at Cantiague Park?

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

I think by "2020 year" you mean 8th grade year. In that case I agree. It is no longer u13 youth lacrosse. Come November for the Fall travel season your son will be considered a "rising 9th grader". This group will include the reclass kids and much movement between club teams. Some kid will be shut out as an older more mature player takes his place. Others will decide to leave a club with a great instruction focused youth program to go to a club which will improve his change of being recognized by a college coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

You guys are just haters. All of them fit the requirements

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Yes plus the team they already have which is pretty good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up

Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up

Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.

By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up

Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.

By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat

Those kids are all age appropriate for their respective grades and are not repeating a grade to play on the the 2020 team. Go peddle that nonsense someplace else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.

Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up

Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.

By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat

Those kids are all age appropriate for their respective grades and are not repeating a grade to play on the the 2020 team. Go peddle that nonsense someplace else.

The one goalie staying back is a summer 2003 birth year, that is 2019 graduation! His parents either started him a school year late or held him back a year.

FCA parents already lying, better put on your boots, the [lacrosse] is getting deep!

Summer 2001 not 2003

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.

No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.

No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.

Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.

No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.

Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..

Yes- that's the point- take the manipulation out of the game and the best teams will have the most skilled athletes, not the oldest and most physically mature. Agreed- Crabs is a completely different team without holdbacks. They are good, but not amazing. I am sure they will have a much older roster this year which is sad, as so many kids are being used as pawns for a business. It's a risk and more than a few may not even have it work for them to get into a better school, let alone scholarship money. Just stupid to redo a year of your life.

Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer 2001 not 2003

Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.

so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.

No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.

Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..

Yes- that's the point- take the manipulation out of the game and the best teams will have the most skilled athletes, not the oldest and most physically mature. Agreed- Crabs is a completely different team without holdbacks. They are good, but not amazing. I am sure they will have a much older roster this year which is sad, as so many kids are being used as pawns for a business. It's a risk and more than a few may not even have it work for them to get into a better school, let alone scholarship money. Just stupid to redo a year of your life.

Unfortunately when parents see kids double reclassing and ending up at Duke and ND, it leads to parents thinking maybe it's not so stupid. Personally I don't care if kids reclass 100 times, it just shouldn't be at the expense of other lacrosse players. High school is high school, but club should be age based at least to 16 years old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.

Let's all hope so, it's about time. Sorry holdbacks, it's never a good idea to try to get ahead by cheating the system. Karma has a way of coming back and biting you in the a**

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.

Let's all hope so, it's about time. Sorry holdbacks, it's never a good idea to try to get ahead by cheating the system. Karma has a way of coming back and biting you in the a**

What are the early rumors about player movement amongst the top teams on the island? With tryout season starting there must be some shifting coming up.

I heard crabs is bringing down 2017 kids down for the 2020 team

gosh more of them?

kids will leave crush and hit some of the other top clubs, express or legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

gosh more of them?

And a few dads are playing

And Igloo...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Igloo...

and fl$

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

Express terps are losing a few kids as well...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

Hopefully the new express kids won't cry when adversity come their way...that team collectively sheds more tears when they lost or are under duress. Soft or just too much pressure?

I was never one. You do what's best for your family. Period!! If your kid wants to be with kids younger than him and think he is better than he really is God bless. Reality catches up sooner or later. I like my kid playing against older kids because when he smokes them or shuts them down its so much sweeter!!!

and you can pound your chest...go punch the clock...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express terps are losing a few kids as well...

Where are they going?

elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.

** tumbleweeds **

Did you write material for Bob Hope? Cutting edge work, there.

He's a little young and small for a certain Md. team!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.

If he was my son, I would put him on 2021 team even if he is a little young for Crabs 2021 team..

the reason August tryouts are not good was experienced by many at tryouts this weekend, mid nineties and 2 hours on a lacrosse field is stupid..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the reason August tryouts are not good was experienced by many at tryouts this weekend, mid nineties and 2 hours on a lacrosse field is stupid..

How is that any different than what they will play in a tournament setting? Many times games are back to back, in 90 plus degree weather and they can sometimes go 3-5 games in a day if they make it to a championship. The kids are trying out for a SUMMER TOURNAMENT team.

My kids and many others have been attending camps, clinics and private sessions in this weather all summer long. Yes, it is hot, but the kids have been playing in it and doing fine. Get the try outs over and done with so parents know what team their kid is on, when and where they will practice, what Fall tournaments are on the horizon and it lets the kids concentrate on school right from the start.

Concentrate on school, yeah that's the reason for the 100 degree august tryouts. Good one.

The reason is simple all these greedy organizations want as many kids and make as many teams as possible A B C D E. Please don't kid yourself into believing this is for real. If your kid is not on the A team don't waste your money or your time!!! It's all about the $$$$. They are laughing all the way to the bank!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The reason is simple all these greedy organizations want as many kids and make as many teams as possible A B C D E. Please don't kid yourself into believing this is for real. If your kid is not on the A team don't waste your money or your time!!! It's all about the $$$$. They are laughing all the way to the bank!!!

Agreed- the move is to keep in line with all the clubs- trying to get the kids first. That said- no one should complain about the weather. The kids played in it all summer long. If you are ever going to do showcases and prospect days- be prepared to play in 90 plus degree weather and 30 degree weather. Coaches do not care if you think it is too hot or cold.

The showing at the tryouts today was awesome and A lot of various different helmets at each tryout

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.

If he was my son, I would put him on 2021 team even if he is a little young for Crabs 2021 team..

And if anyone calls you on it just remember the Crabs' motto..."no rules were broken"

Baseball players don't complain about the heat. this sport is way too watered down if you are complaining about heat. my god man I am 47yo and ran 6 miles yesterday, just drink enough water and take a break when you can, then jump in the pool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.

That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks

We need to whine because it's frustrating when you have to play against older kids all the time. Team is going to pick up a few "holdbacks" this year because a number of kids are repeating 8th grade. Sad that this is what it's come to and all because of the MD private schools trying to game the system.

Thank You for the sounds words of advice Crabbie Daddy!

2020 Express Wolverines taking up to 10 new kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Express Wolverines taking up to 10 new kids

Where are the 10 departing kids going?

wolverine is team 2 for 2020?

Can someone give me the pecking order of the Express 2020 teams by name - I get confused . What is the A team, 2nd team, 3rd team ?...thanks,

Terps
wolverines
barracudas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps
wolverines
barracudas

Also known as Teams 1, 2 and 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps
wolverines
barracudas

Also known as Teams 1, 2 and 3.

Or a,b and c

How did the tryouts go for all the 2020s

went great, thanks.

Hearing a lot of movement from Express terps many people not happy with the Dad coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing a lot of movement from Express terps many people not happy with the Dad coaches

Is anyone ever happy with Dad coaches? One of the worst aspects of youth sports.

They are not happy now because reality sets in when you see dad kids getting more playing time when they don't deserve it!!! Just because dad is the coach... It's all fun and games until it effects you...daddy coaches equals a cancer..almost as bad as keeping kids on the team just because they know people. I don't know which is worse.

I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are not happy now because reality sets in when you see dad kids getting more playing time when they don't deserve it!!! Just because dad is the coach... It's all fun and games until it effects you...daddy coaches equals a cancer..almost as bad as keeping kids on the team just because they know people. I don't know which is worse.

Hasn't it always been this way? Why would kids be driven away now?

However, I do agree, watching better players take a back seat on any team, not just Terps, is frustrating, but it does happen all over so bound to happen at other teams they go to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode

Team is getting better, cutting some of the dead wood and picking up some strong kids, core of team staying put from what i hear.

Dead wood means starting with the middie coach but we all know that is not going to happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!

When you say strong players do you mean kids that are in 8 th grade are going to do 8th grade again and play kids that are younger than them HOLDBACKS!! When you are 14 playing against 13 year olds doesn't mean you are getting better. Means you are playing down to get an advantage or your kid is dumb and needs more help in school. CALL IT HOW IS!!

Wow!!!!!! I guess the terps are going to implode. Those replies are definitely coming from the inside.

If you're a parent on Terps I'd consider you "dead wood" for making such a stupid comment. Every kid on that team can play. They may not all be among the most elite in the nation, but they can all play at a high level. Stop with the mean-spirited put downs of kids.

Please stop saying the truth. We live in a society of entitlement!!! Everybody gets to play.... Wah wah!! Nobody wants to hear the truth who are you Donald trump!!

Welcome losers!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode

I heard Terps lost a crazy dad. They are heading to where they started. Funny because they have bad mouthed them for the last 2 years. Let's see how long they last over there. Not sure what JS is thinking. He may want to re-think his decision! Good luck Crush Parents!

Why would JS take him back?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode

I heard Terps lost a crazy dad. They are heading to where they started. Funny because they have bad mouthed them for the last 2 years. Let's see how long they last over there. Not sure what JS is thinking. He may want to re-think his decision! Good luck Crush Parents!

Why would JS take him back?

No the Jack A.. DELETED

Tryouts will be fun across every program as I'm sure all will undergo changes

Terps coaches really should be coaching B team. Because that's where there kids belong it's a joke they are playing on A team and getting more time than other kids. Only one that deserves it is the attackman. Other 2 not so fast.

JS will make sure the kid gets a fair shot. The reason why crush outshines terps is because he is willing to put the best on the field no matter what unlike the terps!!! Can't wait until we smoke you!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JS will make sure the kid gets a fair shot. The reason why crush outshines terps is because he is willing to put the best on the field no matter what unlike the terps!!! Can't wait until we smoke you!!!!

With that said, looks like your kid may not play much.

91 has tons of "Dad" coaches

Truth is with how competitive travel lacrosse has become it is virtually impossible to find a non dad coach that will put in the necessary time to be competitive. Man everyone breathe

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 has tons of "Dad" coaches

Including Mr. Spallina...LOL

This is the person you are talking about and making up lies . I wish nothing but great things to Express and all the players on that team . My sons experience there was a great one and i wish them all the best , Coach Keith is a great person and coach . I would recommend anyone looking for a great team to consider the 2020 terps. It is unfortunate people use this forum to vent there own issues hiding behind and anonymous forum. Good luck to all in the upcoming years ...

Mr. Mule, Mr. Rooney. some teams do ok with Dad Coaches. Terps coach is a dad and also the HC of St. Anthonys HS.

Why are some of the Express kids repeating 8th grade?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is the person you are talking about and making up lies . I wish nothing but great things to Express and all the players on that team . My sons experience there was a great one and i wish them all the best , Coach Keith is a great person and coach . I would recommend anyone looking for a great team to consider the 2020 terps. It is unfortunate people use this forum to vent there own issues hiding behind and anonymous forum. Good luck to all in the upcoming years ...

Way to take the high road.. Good job!

Take note bashers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are some of the Express kids repeating 8th grade?

what positions are repeating 8th grade.

Anybody go to the express tryouts? How was the showing? Any holdback so as reported?

150+ at tryouts some very good players with some standouts. really good tryout, will be hard to pick the top team and not upset a lot of people. Every kid thinking of going to Catholics was there.

That's great. Thanks for the update. So you are saying if you want to go to catholic school and play you have to play for express.

If anybody gets upset they are not on the top team they have other options it's America. Be interesting to see if they pick the best or politics comes into play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's great. Thanks for the update. So you are saying if you want to go to catholic school and play you have to play for express.

And this is News to you?

if you are going to catholic school and are a 2020 - the team coaches at express are the Head Coach at St. Anthonys and the Defensive coordinator for chaminade.. you don't have to play express and play at catholic but not a bad place to be to get to know your coaches

No I do not believe it. I think when you get to that level it doesn't matter where you played. The best kids are going to play. Period.

Where do people think the Bluefish will fit into the 2020 equation? are there any rumors of defections from other teams? will there be any fallout?

was at express tryouts, Evaluators said close to 200 kids.

Don't go by number of kids go by quality of kids!!! B C D teams don't count are you upgrading or not? That's all that really matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

was at express tryouts, Evaluators said close to 200 kids.

It was a good number but much less than 200. Problem was the organization had no control. Lots of talent there, but no way evaluators could pick. Not enough reps for the kids, prior express kids just kept cutting in front of lines. Pretty poorly run, especially if you compare with 91 tryouts. Supposed to be scrimmages next week. They better have more than one field. If not, you know this was money grab and nothing else.

Come on they are all money grabs. They know the A team before tryouts with phone calls and behind the scene politics. Their May be 1 lucky kid that catches someone's eye because of size or speed other than that everyone else is fighting for the B C D team. But we are the stupid ones that keep paying!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where do people think the Bluefish will fit into the 2020 equation? are there any rumors of defections from other teams? will there be any fallout?

Powers is coaching so thr team will be extremely well coached.

They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.

Why do you say that? Powers is a proven identifier of talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.

Why do you say that? Powers is a proven identifier of talent.

I'm guessing that if the majority of top players are already attached to one of the bigger proven clubs, the talent showing up for a new club will not be as strong. If a club can prove themselves, you may see some stronger kids being attracted in a year or two. One way to have early success is to bring an established team over to a club to start the momentum.

I'd say this team will have some success in the future just based on thei directors, but they may have to build from the younger teams and market to the Nassau county kids.

thank you Nostradamus. your guess is in the record book.

It is a fact!!! You cannot start a legit team in 8th grade unless you are getting other teams good kids!! At this age there is only so many quality kids to go around and I'm sure the top teams already have them!!! Legacy and Express... If your kid is in 8th grade is your best choice.. Don't kid yourself on any other team!!

it must be true you put so many !!!! in your post. thanks for setting us all straight.

Welcome

If the best 24 players from the tryout played for Powers this would be a very "real" team. Not best of the best, but very respectable.

Ok what is respectable against top 5 teams. How much are they losing by? And by respectable are you paying 2000 dols for that

is powers still dedicated, and will this be the only team he coaches. a couple of questions to ask. Cromwell over @ Igloo is one of the best coaches around, but he is spread thin.

Cromwell is doing two teams this year, and according to my conversation they will work it out so that he can be at all the tournaments, and practices are not a concern as they can control that schedule.

This is the smartest thing I have read on here ......Good Job!!

That is good news. Information like that is what this site should be used more for. Cromwell is one of the better coaches out there, guessing some complaints were answered from last year. First year is never easy.

Problem with this, is what teams gets to go to the better tournaments? One team always suffers and it will usually be the younger one. Not a bash just a fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the best 24 players from the tryout played for Powers this would be a very "real" team. Not best of the best, but very respectable.

Agreed. But they would need to lock down the talent sooner than later. Their last tryout is in mid September...most, if not all, of the talented players that showed up will most likely be snagged up by then by existing teams.

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

If over Christmas, hopefully None will go. What a joke. Let families enjoy the break its out of season anyway.

They are all a joke and money grabs. Save your money

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.

I'm trying to find a strong B /(not so strong) A team for my son. He is better than average B player but not quite at elite level. He has been improving over the past few years but unfortunately, he is not affiliated with a strong program so spots for a kid on the come are limited. Does anyone have an opinion of a team that will challenge him but not overwhelm him?

Thanks,

Great turnout legacy!! Zummo your doing a great job keep it up!!

Legacy picked up some Crush. Where will the Terps fall out in the pecking order?

Outlaws or Igloo would be a good option for you depending on where you live.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.

They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy picked up some Crush. Where will the Terps fall out in the pecking order?

Are saying offers have gone out for Taz team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.

They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.

So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.

They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.

So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?

Are you saying your team beat the Crabs or Crush this summer? I would say they are the two best teams out there and despite the lesser known teams being at the World Series, I would say the two strongest teams in the country were in the championship game. That said, I do not believe they beat the weak Crabs- they beat the Crabs teams that were age appropriate for u13. The stronger Crab team can play in High School if they want- possibly even as Sophmores! So maybe the new improved Crabs should be called 2018/2019 instead of 2020. Fooling no one- just gaming the system- but yes, no rules are broken- we know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws or Igloo would be a good option for you depending on where you live.

Outlaws have new coaches in this age group for the upcoming year and they have excellent reputations so you should consider them from that perspective instead of relying on what you may hear or have already heard about prior coaches.

Crush dad trying to stay relevant. Please this is a big year lots of changes worry about your own team.

No matter who they bring in the coaching change should be viewed as a positive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?

No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.

They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.

So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?

Are you saying your team beat the Crabs or Crush this summer? I would say they are the two best teams out there and despite the lesser known teams being at the World Series, I would say the two strongest teams in the country were in the championship game. That said, I do not believe they beat the weak Crabs- they beat the Crabs teams that were age appropriate for u13. The stronger Crab team can play in High School if they want- possibly even as Sophmores! So maybe the new improved Crabs should be called 2018/2019 instead of 2020. Fooling no one- just gaming the system- but yes, no rules are broken- we know.

Most elite 2020 teams can probably beat the Crabs weak "2020" team. Good players but nothing special without their holdbacks.

Any of the teams picked yet with tryouts completed.

Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any of the teams picked yet with tryouts completed.

Most A teams were picked two weeks ago...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.

It is great to hear that Bluefish seems to be drawing talent, it has potential to draw kids from the area that don't wish to travel as much to practice, but like you said, you don't know who is going where. If you go with a bunch of kids you have an advantage, but being on the outside, you only hope they retained a bunch of the better talent from try outs. I really think once the age thing is settled, if ever, there should be some work done on try outs. It would be so much easier for the whole if a coach retained the players he wanted to keep and allowed those that he felt needed to move on go, ahead of the big try outs so there are no surprises and then when everyone attends try outs- you know which positions are available and you know how that team competes and if you have a shot. Wishful thinking and certainly not easy for the kid that gets let go, but possibly a more gentle way than not receiving an email.

As for the. 24 hour decision- I never heard of a club doing that. My boys were always given a week, maybe five days at the least. My kids have played for various clubs over the many years and it was never 24 hrs. I hope no one is actually pushing that time frame. That said, there's a kid whose heart is crushed and wants a spot and anxiously waiting to see if someone declines , so from the other side, I hope if families know they aren't accepting, they do ds quickly, not for the club but for the kids waiting for a spot.

Bluefish shouldnt't be billed as a south Nassau team . I know for a fact there were several players there for tryouts from all over the island. The opportunity to be coached by Mr. Powers is a huge draw...point being players weren't there because it was close or convenient necessarily. If Bluefish want to make a very good 2020 team they should be a little more proactive then wait until Wednesday to reach out to players by email. If, for example, Mr. Powers called the players he wants to coach and had a definite game plan for the team you might have a winner here. The Bluefish website has tuition listed but doesn't know what equipment, if any, you will receive yet....kind of vague to plunk down money. Nonetheless, I think the program has great possibilities if handled correctly. Fear the Fish!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.

It is great to hear that Bluefish seems to be drawing talent, it has potential to draw kids from the area that don't wish to travel as much to practice, but like you said, you don't know who is going where. If you go with a bunch of kids you have an advantage, but being on the outside, you only hope they retained a bunch of the better talent from try outs. I really think once the age thing is settled, if ever, there should be some work done on try outs. It would be so much easier for the whole if a coach retained the players he wanted to keep and allowed those that he felt needed to move on go, ahead of the big try outs so there are no surprises and then when everyone attends try outs- you know which positions are available and you know how that team competes and if you have a shot. Wishful thinking and certainly not easy for the kid that gets let go, but possibly a more gentle way than not receiving an email.

As for the. 24 hour decision- I never heard of a club doing that. My boys were always given a week, maybe five days at the least. My kids have played for various clubs over the many years and it was never 24 hrs. I hope no one is actually pushing that time frame. That said, there's a kid whose heart is crushed and wants a spot and anxiously waiting to see if someone declines , so from the other side, I hope if families know they aren't accepting, they do ds quickly, not for the club but for the kids waiting for a spot.

I agree with what you are saying. Why make a kid the coach has already decided to cut try out. The kid could have spectacular tryout and still be cut because decisions have already been made. I also know of kids who have incredible tryouts not make a team in favor of keeping a much more mediocre kid whose parents are friends with coach. With a new team, it is really hard to know what you will get, and maybe not worth the gamble if you already are on a decent well established team. I agree that the coach should cut the kids he doesn't want to keep, before tryouts. At least those kids then have the opportunity to try out for other teams and not sit around waiting for an email. Oh, but then the greedy directors would not be able to collect more tryout money. That is just not right! I also don't like the idea that many kids tryout but have no intention of playing on the team. I would not want my son to be second choice after someone else declined. Good luck to all the boys, and for those who are cut, you will survive. Work hard and stay positive. Many of today's best players were cut at some point, and went on success in a big way. All while the coach that cut them scratches his head!

2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4

Upgrades to team 1 or team 2? Did Team 1 make themselves stronger? They needed to shake it up a bit too- no?

Crush got some very good upgrades themselves. Same goes for Terps..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4

You call all of the teams except for one by their team name why is that5c

I'm unaware if Legacy has a team name
Do they have another 2020 team?

Taz is their team name, coaches initials. I prefer to be called Koko the monkey myself.

Hey wolverine dad pipe down you are not number 4 unless your terps team took a hit and went down. Everything will be settled on the field. Remember other teams on your list made some huge upgrades. But don't come on here pounding there chests! And not every kid you or other teams think they got. They did.

how many goalies at 2020 bluefish

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how many goalies at 2020 bluefish

There was at least 6 goalies.

There were 9 this week and 6 last week

So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?

the goalies were strong, all shapes and sizes but they all looked like they could play the position. Good to see a lot of strong goalies battling it out, looked they were tested pretty good by the coaches and the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?

Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?

Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.

Guess it really depends if you are considering the Crabs holdback loaded team in the mix. Of course "on paper" they will be number one but everyone knows their deal and discounts them as a true 2020. Looneys, Hawks, Breakers (now Team 91 Maryland) and FCA Blue. These 4 on any given day flip flop in rankings. Looneys lost a few players, Hawks tends to remain consistent, Breakers replaced 4 or 5 players and FCA was expected to have some 2020s that were playing 2019 move down to 2020. Should be a good year as these kids approach high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?

Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.

Guess it really depends if you are considering the Crabs holdback loaded team in the mix. Of course "on paper" they will be number one but everyone knows their deal and discounts them as a true 2020. Looneys, Hawks, Breakers (now Team 91 Maryland) and FCA Blue. These 4 on any given day flip flop in rankings. Looneys lost a few players, Hawks tends to remain consistent, Breakers replaced 4 or 5 players and FCA was expected to have some 2020s that were playing 2019 move down to 2020. Should be a good year as these kids approach high school.

Maryland has it's own thread. How are the LI teams shaping up? Seems to be a lot of player movement this year

This year? Every year there is a lot of player movement. There will be a lot of player movement every year.

Viper had a very good team last year. Seems like several of their players may be on the move.

Big year of movement for the Vipers. A few of their top players are going to private school so they are on the move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big year of movement for the Vipers. A few of their top players are going to private school so they are on the move.

Where did you hear that?

he read it on back of the cage.

Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters

Good player but a stupid comment. Viper probably beat your sons team

They did because of 11 had nobody to match up with him

I don't like to single out kids, but we played and lost to Viper and the face off kid was by far the best kid on the field (not sure of the number). He could play on any team mentioned above and was the only real standout on the field for both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters

Come on Dad, you know where I went!

If the knock on Crush is that they just play the same small group of kids all the time, then how and why did they feel the need to "upgrade?" Did part of their core group leave?only to be replaced by better kids? Otherwise not following how they are better

It's all hype bro. Travel lax 101 always say you got better

"Come on Dad, you know where I went!" << that is funny...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters

Good player but a stupid comment. Viper probably beat your sons team

Very stupid comment. That kid is a very good player and was the best on the team but he could not beat those teams they beat by himself. Viper had an extremely strong defense and a great goalie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the knock on Crush is that they just play the same small group of kids all the time, then how and why did they feel the need to "upgrade?" Did part of their core group leave?only to be replaced by better kids? Otherwise not following how they are better

maybe they can spread the wealth of playing time better. I think by them doing this, another team or two significantly got worse.

Vipers lost 3 times this summer to a pick up team how good can they be seriously

sounds to me like Viper 2020 is one and done- hopefully they can put together another strong team.. hate to see a small club with some serious potential leave the scene.

Express taking kids who didn't even attend the tryouts. Maybe the right thing would be to refund every the tryout fee to every single kid who didn't make a team? Just a thought....

Express not so long ago was Orange, Blue, then White. Then they changed to Terps, Wolves and some fish (pirana, Baracuda). Last year it was team 1, 2, or 3. What are the team names this year and who coaches which team?

Same coaches as last tear
1-TERPS- Wieczorek -St. Anthony's
2-WOLVERINES-Leghart-Chaminade
3-BARRACUDAS-Leghart

Is this news to you. If your kid is good you don't go to any tryout you just pick the team you want to play for. Tryouts are for B players trying to get a look. Come on how long you been doing this!

Is it worth playing on the express #3 team? How were they last year? Is it a B or C team?

Leghart makes it worth it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Leghart makes it worth it!

Is he coaching 1 or 2 teams?

They list the coach as Coach White from Kellenberg. Any info on him?

Coach White may be coaching team 3? Leghart supposedly assistant on terps and coaching Wolves.

Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?

just write the check already...somebody has to pay for the 2 night hotel stay for the coaches in July....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?

4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!

Sounds like rumor mill is running in over-drive. To my knowledge they have never had 4 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?

4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!

Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.

What is team 2020 white for express is it a c or d team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?

4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!

Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.

What A level tournaments did they win or go to the championship in? Or what true A level teams did they beat? Not meaning to be argumentative just don't recall them being considered an A team.

White is the coaches name?

yup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?

4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!

Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.

What A level tournaments did they win or go to the championship in? Or what true A level teams did they beat? Not meaning to be argumentative just don't recall them being considered an A team.

Competitive is what I really meant...beat A teams: True Blue, 3 Village, either beat or tied fl$, etc. Not Terps but also not some meadiocre B team as you suggest.

Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.

It's funny how you know all about the players that the Terps lost. Do you know who they picked up? You may be pleasantly surprised.......

correction---a bunch of kids didn't make terps and moved on to other orgs instead of playing for team 2.

I may but I really doubt it. Word travels fast! Lmao

Heard they left because things weren't getting any better and too many favors on the team

Heard they left because Manhasset Daddys made a package deal

Anyone have information on Express White for 2020?

How many teams will express have for 2020

4!

At 2020 Express tryout they mentioned having 3 teams. I believe White is the lower level team (White is coach's name). I would like to know more about the level they will play, and the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.

It's funny how you know all about the players that the Terps lost. Do you know who they picked up? You may be pleasantly surprised.......

Yes we know, and unfortunately for the terps the players they picked up won't make a bit of difference. Lost far more talent then gained with the new pick ups

Leghart is coaching a team in all 50 states and one in the District of Columbia.

Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...

Anyone hear from the BlueFish?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...

Heard the same. A new starting middie for sure. He's also taking a spot on their man-up squad. JS is making him a team Captain. Heard kids on the team pumped up. Can't wait to see him play.

crush got Rabil.

Heard crush got 4 more kids to ride the bench and wAtch the same kids play all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...

Heard the same. A new starting middie for sure. He's also taking a spot on their man-up squad. JS is making him a team Captain. Heard kids on the team pumped up. Can't wait to see him play.

Ok dad, easy there, nobody cracks starting lineup, despite what they may have told you! Pipe it down!

Did they get vipers number DELETED Other than that not many upgrades out there.. Crush doesn't need upgrades as long as they got that big lefty. He runs that team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush got 4 more kids to ride the bench and wAtch the same kids play all the time.

And why do you care ? Unless your kid has been directly effected by the situation.

Any answers on 2020 Express coach White? Where does team fall I there mix if things?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.

Express B entered 7 tournaments last year, won 4 championships, placed 3rd in 2 others and tied for 5th with fl$ in the last one. Sorry to use facts to state my case and refute your so eloquently stated position that Express B was terrible. Express B was obviously not on the level of Crush (who is), Terps or Legacy Taz but they competed quite will against every other A team out there so please save your ignorant and insulting comments for another team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did they get vipers number DELETED Other than that not many upgrades out there.. Crush doesn't need upgrades as long as they got that big lefty. He runs that team

Your obsession with this kid is creepy

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Express 2020 White is th 4th team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

My question is this... What happened to kids having fun, no matter what level they play at?

Should just put your name down to so the coach knows who is kissing his a$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!

Is it be verified that Express White 2020 is the 4th team,despite the statement at tryouts that there would be 3?

Any information on True Blue 2020 White, and the organization in general?

2020 Express White v. 2020 True Blue White, any opinions on best criteria to help with choice?

first team or fourth team kidding getting better and enjoying the experience is the only thing that should matter to parents.instead of jealous rants and shots at kids abilities

How are the Vipers?

Express had 150+ kids to choose from. Express white is team 3?

Express $2,600 things are getting way out of control....

Come on have to pay for our nice houses and extreme life styles. It's called capitalism you don't like it go somewhere else.

It's definitely a 4th team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!

I had no idea Trump was a lacrosse fan!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.

Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.

btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!

Since you couldn't even manage to quote the prior email less than 3 times, I'm pretty sure America would be better off if you converted and went to help Iran build a nuclear bomb. At least then we wouldn't have to worry about it actually working!

Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?

not yet, but I am not sure my son was getting one. I would appreciate it if someone who does get one can let us know -so I can set expectations at home. (Thanks in advance)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?

Yes, just recd email invite.

Confirmed that Express only has 3 teams, not sure where your getting your info from but this is from Express.

I am assuming 2020 A (not B) I was towards the back and couldn't make out exactly what Tierney said regarding the process other than "emails ...Wednesday"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?

Yes, just recd email invite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am assuming 2020 A (not B) I was towards the back and couldn't make out exactly what Tierney said regarding the process other than "emails ...Wednesday"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?

Yes, just recd email invite.

Yes, email said Congratulations and that you made 2020 A team. Email also said coaches would be confirmed shortly on the website.

That's funny, I got an email from EXPRESS stating that White will be the coach of a 4th 2020 team.

Did the ems u l ask you to confirm you accept within a period of time? I know of one kid who made another top team and was planning on taking the other offer.

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.

Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.

Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.

Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the Vipers?

The team disbanded

Coaching matters. Leghardt is a class act and a superior coach. If your kid got on the "c" team put him on it. Coach White I am sure is great as well for the fourth team.

Express "C" 2020 never played in a "C" division last year. Leghadrt trained the team all Winter and we came out in the Spring as a solid team. We pnly played in "B" divisions and we beat most "B" teams in our tournaments.

Never predict that a "c" or "d" team kid will not play in College, there are Division 2 and 3 schools right?

For 2016, Express Team Leggy has offered practice to start by next week and 4 additional Fall tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.

Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.

Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now

Nice work, love those stories, don't quit, work hard and practice. You can pass other kids with hard work, lots of kids will fall back to the pack in high school and those that work the hardest (weight training and stick skills) will prevail.

What's the feelings on bluefish?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.

Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.

Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.

Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now

Not sure if you are trying to dispute what I said but you are actually proving my point. The "c" team your son made probably had a great and supportive coach and your son was able to have a great year and continue to develop and then excel. If you had chosen to jump to an "A" team just because it was an "A" team, you may have ended up with a terrible coach, your son hating lacrosse and he wouldn't be where he is today. So nice job by you putting your son in position to succeed and great job by your son to take advantage of the opportunity.

That is real shame that the Vipers 2020 team disbanded. They were a very solid team that seemed like we're doing their parents right by keeping costs down and still putting a quality product out there.

new teams struggle, give a year or two and check back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

new teams struggle, give a year or two and check back.

That's a pretty ignorant comment.

Seems Bluefish has promise due to coaching and affiliation with University. Some oversights and lack of attention at 2020 tryout on Saturday 8/29. Particularily one of the coaches (actually appeared to be a college kid), not very attentive and made some errors in judgement regarding getting kids balanced playing time in scrimmages. They have a nice idea, remains to be seen whether it will be executed effectively.

True....at least 6 kids did not get enough playing time in scrimmage to to Young couch on sideline not substituting properly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seems Bluefish has promise due to coaching and affiliation with University. Some oversights and lack of attention at 2020 tryout on Saturday 8/29. Particularily one of the coaches (actually appeared to be a college kid), not very attentive and made some errors in judgement regarding getting kids balanced playing time in scrimmages. They have a nice idea, remains to be seen whether it will be executed effectively.

Powers said at the first tryout that he was coaching this team. If that is the case your kid will be set. The guy is a great coach.

coaching and great facilities should make for a pretty positive experience. Also veterans at running big clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

coaching and great facilities should make for a pretty positive experience. Also veterans at running big clubs.

Well they are owned by another larger club that will remain nameless. People don't realize that yet for some reason.

Or could it be that that larger club is nervous because once you are at the top there's only place to go

owned by a larger club? please elaborate.. Express, 91.. which do you think. Or is it the CRABS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

owned by a larger club? please elaborate.. Express, 91.. which do you think. Or is it the CRABS?

My vote would be express

So, now that rosters are being finalized, let the games begin! Where should the top teams be playing this fall?

the top teams are playing in Maryland all fall, in a fall league.

What teams and what league?

You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.

How good are the Madlax national, 3d national, true national etc teams relative to the organization 's club teams?

91MD is going up to play Express, Legacy, Sons, Mesa

Don't waste your gas....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.

WOW !! I see u can add.

Let them come and get there beat down!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.

I think the competition would be quite good. Crush on top, naturally but Looneys almost beat them in PA. Crabs, Hawks, FCA and 91MD would give the rest a run for their money. I think the Hawks beat Legacy earlier this year, doesn't everyone say they're #2 on LI these days?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.

I think the competition would be quite good. Crush on top, naturally but Looneys almost beat them in PA. Crabs, Hawks, FCA and 91MD would give the rest a run for their money. I think the Hawks beat Legacy earlier this year, doesn't everyone say they're #2 on LI these days?

Nope, just you.

Crush taking a beat down.. You're joking, right..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let them come and get there beat down!

Only team that would be a given to beat the five best Maryland teams is Crush and they earned that and the respect that goes with it as they play on age and have worked hard to get where they are. The remaining 4 Long Isalnd teams and the 5 Maryland would be great competitive games. It is not about region wars but good lacrosse for talented kids. And would be great if they used the Denver age cut off for any tourney to even the playing field and exclude those teams that manipulate the grade based rules and start sending the message that the other teams will not tolerate nor accept kids playing down.

So who is taking the plunge and swimming with the Bluefish?

Some of these tournament providers are out of their mind. Charging $1200/1300 for 3 games. Thats $800 a game they are charging to run. Costs less than $200 to run a game for field and refs. Do they really need to make $600 per game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let them come and get there beat down!

Only team that would be a given to beat the five best Maryland teams is Crush and they earned that and the respect that goes with it as they play on age and have worked hard to get where they are. The remaining 4 Long Isalnd teams and the 5 Maryland would be great competitive games. It is not about region wars but good lacrosse for talented kids. And would be great if they used the Denver age cut off for any tourney to even the playing field and exclude those teams that manipulate the grade based rules and start sending the message that the other teams will not tolerate nor accept kids playing down.

DENNVER cut off.. What are you smoking. Most LI 2019 teams/players would qualify.

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

Glad to hear many teams feel that they have strengthened their roster. I have a serious question- where are the top five teams getting these players from? Are they swapping players? Coming from other areas- Westchester- queens etc..? New kids to travel? Pulling kids up from B? Thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

Is this nicest uniform list? Otherwise not sure why igloo 2020 is on here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let them come and get there beat down!

Long Island education strikes again!

fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.

fl$ lost to Terps and Legacy by 10 goals + last year, so relax.

fl$ cant compete with the teams on that list. Good team but will lose by 10+ to both those teams again. Faceoff kids on Terps and Legacy are too good for fl$ to compete.

Came across this article from a few years ago ok- almost a decade ago- a chuckle and a reminder to keep priorities straight...

THE VAULT Close
The Parent Trap

BY RICK REILLY
Originally Posted: July 31, 2006
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I went out to get my paper this morning and found my neighbor Dalton instead.

He was slumped on my stoop, looking as though he'd slept under a marching band. His eyes sported five-pound bags, his right hand was bandaged and bloody, and his face was sunk like a bad souffl�.

"My God!" I said. "What happened to you? You look like a 20-car funeral!"

"Youth lacrosse happened to me," he grumbled. "The Competitive Elite Lacrosse League. My little Ashley made one of those 'travel teams.' Pray it never happens to you, dude."

He explained. "See, I really never thought Ashley was all that hot at lacrosse, and she's only 14. But when she made this competitive team, all the parents said it was a big honor. They said it's the only way to make your high school varsity, and it's the road to a scholarship, and it looks great on your r�sum�.

"I'm not even sure Ashley wanted to do it. But all of her friends made it, so she just had to do it. What was I gonna do? Tell my little girl no?

"Next thing you know, I'm writing a check for $1,500. Then it turns out, they practice or play seven days a week on these things. And it's clear across town, so pretty soon I'm standing on the sidelines every day of the week.

"My wife can't do it 'cause she has to take Justin to hockey every day. Why an eight-year-old nearsighted kid needs a 42-game schedule is beyond me. What is he, Wayne Gretzky? Plus there's pylon camp and forecheck camp and backward-skating lessons with his personal coach, Hans.

"So pretty soon I got no life. Family dinners? Forget it. Every meal is in the car--righthanded Taco Bell. I almost never see my wife awake. When I do, I have to ask for I.D.

"Then this lunatic lacrosse coach schedules an extra 6 a.m. practice every day. It's like the old bottle-feeding days. I'd be like, 'I got her last time. You get her.' And Denise would moan, 'I had to stay up for Midnight Madness last night. Your turn.' Then, at night Ashley is so tired, we end up doing her dang homework! And we're gettin' C's!

"Anyway, Ashley and I started flying to all these stupid tournaments--Dallas and Baltimore and, my God, Ottawa!--and every one is billed as 'the recruiting event of the year!' And do you know who we see at these tournaments? The same damn girls we used to play in our neighborhood league! Essentially, we're flying across the country to get our [lacrosse] kicked by the same exact people!

"So I start talking to these girls' parents, and it turns out they don't really want to be there either, but their kids were saying we were going to do it, so they had to!

"But then my wife gets to talking to some other moms at Justin's slap shot workshop, and they say we're crazy if we don't have a 'performance-enhancement specialist' for our kids. So she signs them both up with one. Then she finds out most of these girls have 'recruiting consultants' who make highlight reels of kids and send them to college coaches. I'm like, 'She's 14!' And my wife is like, 'You're gonna tell our little girl no?' Then we add a rating-service guy and a sports psychologist and a webmaster.

"Well, what with me working half time and all this crap I'm paying for and all these trips, I had to take out a second mortgage. Denise can't work because she's spending every waking moment in a freezing ice rink, which makes her joints stiffen up. Luckily, Hans knows some New Age massage technique that makes her feel better.

"So now I'm getting no sleep, turning my stomach into a Dumpster and having less sex than a dead monk. But before I can put my foot down, my boss does. He fires me! And as he's firing me, he adds, 'By the way, the average lacrosse scholarship is $1,000, you [lacrosse]!' So I punch him, and now I think my hand might be broken.

"I stomp out and go find Ashley to say, 'It's over.' And she goes, 'Whatever. I quit today anyway. My sports psychologist says you guys push me too hard.'

"Nice. So I go home to tell Denise, but she's not there. Three days go by. I figure she's at the Elite Competitive Hockeypalooza in Cheyenne. Turns out she moved in with Hans. Says she wants to be with someone who 'knows' her. Oh, and she really likes massages.

"So now I get home and somebody changed the locks! Probably the mortgage company, since I'm way behind.

"And do you know what I learned from all this, man? I learned that the most viciously competitive sport in the world is parenting.

"Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is--you wanna buy some lacrosse sticks?"

If you have a comment for Rick Reilly, send it to reilly@siletters.com.

Though fl$ is then new Terps?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ lost to Terps and Legacy by 10 goals + last year, so relax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps

Must be slow weekend in Manhasset if this is what you are doing for fun.

Lets all be thankful this weekend that we don't have to listen to the Viper guys anymore in this age bracket. Have any of these teams practiced yet? scrimmaged yet? so everyone needs to relax and stop pounding your chests.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets all be thankful this weekend that we don't have to listen to the Viper guys anymore in this age bracket. Have any of these teams practiced yet? scrimmaged yet? so everyone needs to relax and stop pounding your chests.

You should take your own advice

Is viper fielding a team in any age group now? Lol big up and coming program I thought.

I am taking the advice and am glad I don't have to listen to Viper rhetoric anymore. But thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.

sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.

Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps

Must be slow weekend in Manhasset if this is what you are doing for fun.

no just slow in commack and WI

What happened to Vipers? Did the whole program fold?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Vipers? Did the whole program fold?

No, just the 2020 team.

Holy Cow ... All that banter about Vipers 2020 and now can't field a team.......amazing

Obviously Viper kicked your butt and you didn't like the fact that you were paying 2500 for your son to play and we were paying 850. Most of the parents were humble- sad that Viper team imploded but all those kids will contribute to other programs. Good luck to all!

a few of the parents were far from humble..

Then why did the Viper 2020 IMPLODE....then

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why did the Viper 2020 IMPLODE....then

Why 2 pages of complaining about a team that doesn't exist?
The scars will heal if you let go.

lets move on to the next important topic in 8th grade lacrosse.. oh shiz there are none.

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

You "heard"? Ok dad, you got your plug in for your kid's team. Too funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.

sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.

What's next "the Jerk Store called and they are all out of you"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Awesome. Thanks for the update.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

You "heard"? Ok dad, you got your plug in for your kid's team. Too funny.

So what is the big deal?

Princeton is beautiful in the fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.

sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.

What's next "the Jerk Store called and they are all out of you"?

You are so funny, good one. Only took 3 days to respond? How many people did you have to ask since you don't have any original thoughts. Keep em coming though, I'll check back in four days to give you some more time.

Leave your name tough guy!! We should all know who the wise a$$ are! In case we get to see you on the sidelines.

so many tough guys, so little time...keep it classy, let the kids play and stop putting some teams on a pedestal and knocking other ones. There are zero data points for 2016 so they are all winners...leave em be...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Leave your name tough guy!! We should all know who the wise a$$ are! In case we get to see you on the sidelines.

And you are??

I remember last year Express Wolerines(B,Legheart or whatever there called) tied that fl$ TEAM

Close to 10 new kids from the Terps, Vipers and other programs added to that 2020 fl$ team. I'm sure ignorant comments about where they came from coming from all you haters in response. Will let the play to the talking.

If you were content to let the play do the talking you wouldn't be on here boasting about new players.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Close to 10 new kids from the Terps, Vipers and other programs added to that 2020 fl$ team. I'm sure ignorant comments about where they came from coming from all you haters in response. Will let the play to the talking.

Terps will win by over 10 goals. Easliy.

The Madlax website says that the 2020 Long Island Express team is going to the Madlax club championships in Florida. Is that true?

One of the most talented and most liked kid got cut from our team. As parents we all don't agree with it and we think it makes our team weaker. Our kids feel the same way. Our club obviously played politics. So disappointing. Many don't trust this guy now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One of the most talented and most liked kid got cut from our team. As parents we all don't agree with it and we think it makes our team weaker. Our kids feel the same way. Our club obviously played politics. So disappointing. Many don't trust this guy now.

What guy? Sad to hear this for the kid and the team. Hate that politics play a role. It's rampant in all youth sports. Hope the kid finds a new team to call home.

Organization completely sold out this year....and it wasnt just one kid. They had a plan to reshape the team for political reasons.

from what team? fl$?

Rather than all the ambiguity, why don't you actually state what organization you are talking about. Seems strange the one of the most "talented and liked" kids would get cut.

]from what team? fl$? [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from what team? fl$?

Has to be fl$. They today let politics get involved this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

]from what team? fl$?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from what team? fl$?

Has to be fl$. They today let politics get involved this year. [/quote]

Out of respect for this player... PLEASE do not name the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Madlax website says that the 2020 Long Island Express team is going to the Madlax club championships in Florida. Is that true?

2019 went to Florida and Va last fall. Why not?

It has to be the Express Terps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It has to be the Express Terps

What teams are practicing already?

Um, I can't think of "one of the most talented players" on said team that was cut. I really can't. Some very nice boys did not make it back though, unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It has to be the Express Terps

What teams are practicing already?

Crush of course.

They all are crush dad!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They all are crush dad!!

But only one is the best team in the country, so I hope so for their sake.
But something tells me that not all of them are.

That is def not a crush dad. Trolling

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, I can't think of "one of the most talented players" on said team that was cut. I really can't. Some very nice boys did not make it back though, unfortunately.

Deserving kids make team while others do not for reasons that are both fair and unfair. Politics, back room deals, etc. are rampant especially as we start getting close to the onset of the recruiting years. It is not, however, as simple as looking at the roster and deciding that the best kids must have made it. In some case that is true, in others the luckiest or most hooked up kids made it. You obviously choose to believe that everyone cut from whatever team your son is on were lesser players. We know that because your son is on the team and they are not. Therefore your son is one of the better player. If you ever find yourself in the unenviable position of suddenly having to scramble to find a new team for your son I suspect you will be back on here wailing about the injustice of it all.

I empathize with your position. I would like to think when that day comes for me/my son, which I'm sure it will some day, we just move on and don't point fingers. I have not walked in your shoes though so I'll refrain from any further comment on it and just wish you and your son luck.

Where are the Crush 2020 playing this Fall?

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

what's the tournament name?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

Who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

what's the tournament name?

Sweetlax invitational

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

what's the tournament name?

Sweetlax invitational

Played Sweetlax last year and got a little beat up. Really good team. Talked to a couple of the kids after the game, real nice kids. They could have really run up the score but didn't.

thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm

Lol, you might want to re-visit your cystral ball on this one Oh disgruntled one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

what's the tournament name?

Manhasset Daddy Invitational

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm

Lol, you might want to re-visit your cystral ball on this one Oh disgruntled one.

Easy there Studlete.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Did this happen yet? If so, results please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

Who cares

The rest of us care -regardless of whether our team is going or not, it is nice to hear what other teams in the age group are doing and he results.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

Who cares

The rest of us care -regardless of whether our team is going or not, it is nice to hear what other teams in the age group are doing and he results.

Agreed. My son has friends on various teams and kids that had once played with his team, but no longer do. It is nice to hear about the LI teams that are successful playing in tournaments that we are not in. Hope to hear about all our teams. The kids are almost at recruiting years and we should be cheering on all our LI teams and athletes and drop the - "my team is better than yours" attitude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Did this happen yet? If so, results please.

nov 1st I believe

I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.

Their 2020 team is made up of mostly 15 year olds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.

How old were the boys in question? Was it 15 year olds playing 13s

that's funny no kid on our team is 15 years old..where are u getting this stuff from

they are making it up, just in case they lose they have an excuse. Forgive us we are Lawn Guylanders. funniest thing I read this morning - "Manhasset Daddy Invitational".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's funny no kid on our team is 15 years old..where are u getting this stuff from

Exactly. He is 16 now

Why doesn't lacrosse just do what hockey does? just go on Birth year and stop all this nonsense. June 1st 2001!?? they are 9th graders!!!

hockey goes strictly by birth year because birth year (not grade) denotes when they can be drafted
go to age limit tournaments and see how much college recruiting is happening -- the college coaches go to look at the best talent regardless of birth year

'19 you had '18's that you brought down b/c you wanted them to get the exposure and see CU and have the coaches see them. 3 kids. That is fact. you ran through the tournament and two kids were carted away as a result. The fact that your org is invited back is a shock to me. Your site advertised last year for the '20 team class of 19 and 20 's welcome. Am I wrong about any of this? If so, please correct me and I'll apologize, but I won't have to.

"Manhasset Daddy Invitational"

Those Dad's are fun. I enjoy their company and NONE are over the top on the sidelines and this is from an arch-rival.

that's the 2019 team that reclassified. the 2020 team was put together for [lacrosse]'s Sporting Goods. Sweetlax doesn't have a 2019 division only 2020 and 2021.

The entire age issue is a disgrace in lacrosse, would love to see some people stand up for whats right and attack the issue. Coaches can not like things the way its put together and I know parents do not like it either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The entire age issue is a disgrace in lacrosse, would love to see some people stand up for whats right and attack the issue. Coaches can not like things the way its put together and I know parents do not like it either

Some coaches like it and are even doing it with their own kids. Nice role model for the sport!

They did last year and that is what your organization did. Now you see my point right?
Looking forward to the event this year. New year. Hope all is above board...

See, there are kind people out there. Nice hearing something positive. Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Did this happen yet? If so, results please.

nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa

Edge how do you discount this. Your website states it clearly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'19 you had '18's that you brought down b/c you wanted them to get the exposure and see CU and have the coaches see them. 3 kids. That is fact. you ran through the tournament and two kids were carted away as a result. The fact that your org is invited back is a shock to me. Your site advertised last year for the '20 team class of 19 and 20 's welcome. Am I wrong about any of this? If so, please correct me and I'll apologize, but I won't have to.

Knowing how Edge played it last year, why would Sweetlax and the other clubs put up with it again? As the saying goes: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Did this happen yet? If so, results please.

nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa

Is this the same Mesa that went 1-4 at NXT in July?

who cares about a BS fall tournament... let us know how it goes, or better yet don't let us know how it goes.. cause no one gives a &hit. Good night!

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares about a BS fall tournament... let us know how it goes, or better yet don't let us know how it goes.. cause no one gives a &hit. Good night!

Actually many care a lot! We all want to see where our teams fall. I want to see how my son matches up. Looking foread to it! Coaches will start watching as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Its called puberty. every kid is getting bigger. my sons team has 4 over 6 foot

You are right. Kerwick and his staff were out watching most of the afternoon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

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Do NOT call out the players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division

what's the tournament name?

Manhasset Daddy Invitational

Does Express still have Daddy coaches?

Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?

If this needs to be explained to you then it can't be explained to you. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?

Probably that daddy coaches take care of their sons and friends.

Here we go with the Daddy coaches argument again. Its how I tell winter is coming, more predictable than the groundhog.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

I would agree with that, not that it matters a hill of beans which of them is 4 vs. 7... they all have some very good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

I can honestly say Crush is still number 1 @ 2020. No long island team is even a close second.

From what I here Legacy will give Crush a run this year .
They are big and tough. fl$ will beat the Terps.

Crush remains #1, Legacy may beat Terps but fl$ won't. It will be a closer game than last season, but fl$ not there yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what I here Legacy will give Crush a run this year .
They are big and tough. fl$ will beat the Terps.

That's a bold prediction. Not likely, Legacy attack too weak, and middie addition a favor, nothing to brag about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.

Did this happen yet? If so, results please.

nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa

Is this the same Mesa that went 1-4 at NXT in July?

Supposedly this is the real Mesa team not the Mesa Fever Fresh team. time will tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3

fl$ will lose by 10+ to terps, no chance there. Terps too good. not sure of legacy, heard they got some 3V kids that can play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

...and yet the crush coach is championing age limits for youth lacrosse - #hypocrit
That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

...and yet the crush coach is championing age limits for youth lacrosse - #hypocrit
That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3

Age limits- yes- US Lacrosse age limits would make sense. LI is and will continue to be at a disadvantage if we keep calling kids holdbacks when all other teams start school at 9/1. Level the playing field and put a limit on grade base with age cut offs. Lacrosse has grown and in order for it to continue, we need to think outside our own home and more nationally. 9/1 or even 6/1 should be a cut off.

If a team plays 2020- all members should be graduating that year- period, but there should be a cut off that all regions must adhere to. If a 2020 team plays 2019, then the oldest players should be graduating 2019 with an age limit. Very simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .

Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .

Crabs will pick'em apart...eat them like a piece of bunker!~

Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?

That is a great knowledge of that team. I guess you are paying attention crush dad. Lmfao!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?

This summer is when all the kids in MD will be repeating so the teams will miraculously get bigger better and faster. LOL

Come on who is writing this the kids that moved down or left were not good on that team there for the wrong reasons. Please tell yourself that was the reason. I judge a kid when they are away from their travel team..That's really when you see who is who not hiding behind the uniform. Lol.

Legacy would love to get a shot at crush terps and fl$ we won't back down or hide from anybody we are much improved and deeper at every position looking forward to great competition. now it's time to see what we got.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?

This summer is when all the kids in MD will be repeating so the teams will miraculously get bigger better and faster. LOL

it is not only MD, how about those boys upstate, they like to bend those rules too.

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?

you got lucky, pure luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets

Whose going to Florida for [lacrosse]'s this year? FCA 2020 will be there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets

You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?

I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most.

that's funny right there, I don't care who ya are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most.

that's funny right there, I don't care who ya are

I would agree that an ethics class may be in order here for some club directors and coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .

Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.

How did they add two 2019s? Did these kids hold back?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets

You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?

Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets

You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?

Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother.

are you sure the teams didnt have ANYTHING to do with the dates. Just like US lacrosse wont define levels by DOB because some within US lacrosse MAY have family or friends which benefits its loose interpretation..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard that Crush got some size. About time

Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.

That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy

With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.

Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .

Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.

There is one other thing they lack.....class

Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma[/quote]

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else. [/quote]

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets [/quote]

You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket? [/quote]

Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother. [/quote]

are you sure the teams didnt have ANYTHING to do with the dates. Just like US lacrosse wont define levels by DOB because some within US lacrosse MAY have family or friends which benefits its loose interpretation..[/quote]

Everything is subject to influence, I suppose - that's in every aspect of life, can't avoid it.

There is one other thing they lack.....class [/quote]

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself. [/quote]

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!

I think [lacrosse]'s is a wast of time and money. Not worth the time or money. My opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.[/quote]

No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.

[/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.

[/quote]

Any win will never mean much when you do it by cheating. Play fair and earn respect the right way!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them![/quote] Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.

Any win will never mean much when you do it by cheating. Play fair and earn respect the right way! [/quote]

Now you are just making stuff up. Too funny. Try again in a few days. But in the meantime write "I will not make stuff up about kids" 100 times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!

Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote]

Mother Theresa of the lax.... You and your kids and staff should have been front and center with the Pope! I hear Francis plays Middie.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!

Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.

Mother Theresa of the lax.... You and your kids and staff should have been front and center with the Pope! I hear Francis plays Middie. [/quote]

All this banter means nothing. Crabs 16 year old 2020 players will eat up all of Long Island!

If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them![/quote] Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote]

Yep not up to par. Yeah kids are so good because of coach. Give me Oneil and watch how good of a coach I become. We would rarely ever lose a game with Oneil playing attack. Lacrosse is the only sport where you flipping crazies want want to let the coach take all the credit. All these top programs taking credit for kids going D1. Joke. You got D1 kids in your program. I'll give you credit for good branding and recruiting. You think js made oneil, danenza, schwirtzer? Teach them lessons. What lessons. Freaking crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!

Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote] [/quote]

Using names now??? JS is an unbelievable coach with the best players in the entire country. Crush has proved through this past tryouts that they are now adding depth. They are the best team that just got better...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep not up to par. Yeah kids are so good because of coach. Give me Oneil and watch how good of a coach I become. We would rarely ever lose a game with Oneil playing attack. Lacrosse is the only sport where you flipping crazies want want to let the coach take all the credit. All these top programs taking credit for kids going D1. Joke. You got D1 kids in your program. I'll give you credit for good branding and recruiting. You think js made oneil, danenza, schwirtzer? Teach them lessons. What lessons. Freaking crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is one other thing they lack.....class

And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!

Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.

[/quote] [/quote]

Are you a parent of a player that is upset? The parents know exactly what they are getting. Its out there in the open so please take the nonsense somewhere else. The fact the kids can play a zone at their age is a testament to the quality coaching and training. In regard to a name being used its in a good light and no one is attacking the player so we as moderators let it go.

Wow. Have not been on here in a long time. Would love it if you people would put your name along with your issues. You all hide your complaints behind the Anonymous. Crush does this, Crush does that, Crabs are *#%^^$#. It is hilarious. Parents of boys this age? You should be busy. No?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. Have not been on here in a long time. Would love it if you people would put your name along with your issues. You all hide your complaints behind the Anonymous. Crush does this, Crush does that, Crabs are *#%^^$#. It is hilarious. Parents of boys this age? You should be busy. No?

What's your name?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think [lacrosse]'s is a wast of time and money. Not worth the time or money. My opinion.

Total waste, generally no competition for hotbed teams

If you are going to Florida, there are so many better things to do than play lacrosse. Agree on the waste of time and money.

Plus trips w 3d and the NLF Prospect showcases for this age

Please just tell me you will watch this closely. Many names or the "illusion" of names have been on display here "in good light" then before you know it.. it has gone over the line.

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.

The kids on that team are very nice kids, with great work ethic. Not only are the players very skilled, but there are many top academic students on the team as well. I am not sure why you think any of them would be better off somewhere else. They will all go on to play HS ball- most, with good lax schools. They will attend recruiting camps, showcases with the team and prospect camps as individuals and will have some very good coaches working on their behalf. They will be just fine, as will many of the other very good players on A and B teams through out the island. I wish the best to all the boys that represent our island. I just wish others would as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.

how much scholarship money is handed to an incoming freshman lacrosse player?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.

The kids on that team are very nice kids, with great work ethic. Not only are the players very skilled, but there are many top academic students on the team as well. I am not sure why you think any of them would be better off somewhere else. They will all go on to play HS ball- most, with good lax schools. They will attend recruiting camps, showcases with the team and prospect camps as individuals and will have some very good coaches working on their behalf. They will be just fine, as will many of the other very good players on A and B teams through out the island. I wish the best to all the boys that represent our island. I just wish others would as well.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.

Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.

how much scholarship money is handed to an incoming freshman lacrosse player?

It's not all about scholarships (that don't really exist) - I think anyone who is paying attention knows that. Anyway, the OP was making it sound like the rest of the team would be left behind at the expense of the core kids. I would imagine that any kid who is good enough to make the team would be a top player on any other team.

Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.

With the exception of a couple kids, the Crush team isn't that big. They are going to be passed soon by other teams with bigger, faster, better athletes. Only the ones on Crush that the Coach cares about are going to get pub/success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.

so they dominate all 2020 teams and most 2019 teams all because of one player?

Jealousy is entertaining . Spend the time you use here with your boy and watch the improvement. Guess money can't buy everything huh

They do not "dominate most 2019 teams". If they play any good 2019 teams this year, that will be a bad idea.

2020 is a weak year . Didn't say the team didn't have very good even above average players , I said they have one top d1 recruit. Yes one. And yes a team can dominate games when one player can score 6 and is unstoppable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 is a weak year . Didn't say the team didn't have very good even above average players , I said they have one top d1 recruit. Yes one. And yes a team can dominate games when one player can score 6 and is unstoppable.

Time will tell and it will tell soon. Now get off work early today and have a catch with your son

Enjoy that new 2019 kid that just stepped down a year...
(re-classed).
that should be fun.

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enjoy that new 2019 kid that just stepped down a year...
(re-classed).
that should be fun.

Yes, and he did so without even reclassing! wth??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Unfortunately he's not a standout anymore...

Not a Crush lover or hater actually think it's great for 2020 class how they've helped raise the bar for our boys. But very odd how much info you have on a group personal feeling is they are fun to watch and play team lacrosse which is a nice thing to show kids that it can be done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

Somebody sounds real jealous, lol!

Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.

A highly competitive, highly skilled team that plays very well together and dominates its competition will only yield 1 recruit? Seriously? Every college coach is trying to create a highly competitive, highly skilled team that plays very well together and dominates its competition. I say this as a Maryland resident.

One thing is certain these message boards are the only place people get the better of Crush. Otherwise not so much especially on LI. Having competed against these boys for many years it is a phenomenal group of athletes and lacrosse players. What is percieved as top 10 2020 rankings After Crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.

More like 10-12

Sorry , 12 D1 kids ain't to shabby.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent

they're the best, no doubt about it, but not deep and strange culture

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.

Exactly. They play everyone and share the ball. It is not about 5 guys.

Unlike some teams and coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry , 12 D1 kids ain't to shabby.

Agree, Crush will have more!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

You people are insane. I don't even live in LI, but from the MD area I'll tell you that the 2020 Crush team is special - getting a group of 13 year olds to play with that discipline (always in a zone D, always moving, always looking, unselfish, making the key passes in the right place at the right time, etc.) is near impossible, and finding a field full of kids who can do it is even harder. Give them credit where it is due - they lack size, but they are very skilled athletes. Which poster on here has a kid on a team that beat Crush this past year?

I'm a Crush admirer, but the zone surprised me when I watched it on ESPN. I know most college coaches don't want to watch that. Seemed to me like a way to rest your middies.

Anyway, I'm a 2021 coach and I can think of no teams to watch than 91 Extreme (3 years ago) and 91 Crush (past year) for their great passing skills and as examples of how good 13-year olds can play (maybe Turtles too). Just incredible. Particularly for a smallish team like mine, trying to learn that same kind of unselfish quick passing and excellent shooting is a great goal. They also appear to me to show the importance of indoor play, but I'm just guessing there.

Really? Crush is filled with the top players at every position. Their attack is outstanding! Their middies are just as good, their defense is incredible. You gotta be kidding me!

Yes but does not like to be hit. Going to take a beating this year

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I think it is time to move on. Hate crush, love crush, who cares?! Enjoy the season on whatever team your kid is on and stop focusing on just one team. There are plenty of other teams at this age and all this obsession with one team takes credit away from others. They are the top LI has right now. In a year or two, maybe not- but who cares? It's a game and it all just changed. This isn't about winning games. It's about being competitive in the top brackets so you can showcase what you have. Time to stop the stupid banter and start focusing on future possibilities for our kids. The best place to start- their academics- that'll make or break many.

I help run my son's middle school program. Our high school coach requests that we not run zone because he feels it is bad for the development of our defensemen. Obviously everyone runs zone on man down but is the belief that running zone at lower levels is bad for the kids common? Zones seem to be very effective particularly if you have a good goalie and/or are outmatched athletically.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

Haha, not a chance!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...

Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.

people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent

they're the best, no doubt about it, but not deep and strange culture

What is their strange culture??

Fall tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

Question: Are 8th graders ever invited to College prospect days? If so, is there a process for requesting consideration for an invitation?

Thanks,
2020 Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Are 8th graders ever invited to College prospect days? If so, is there a process for requesting consideration for an invitation?

Thanks,
2020 Dad

I don't think so - they are normally reserved for rising sophomores, juniors, and seniors. I don't know of any that allow 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

Bahaaaaaaaaa...Not quite

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

You sound like a scorned parent with a chip on his shoulder. Bottom line is, regardless of what you think or say, those boys will be recruited and receive offers - guaranteed. There is no question whatsoever that some of them will begin getting offers this year - if you believe otherwise, you have your head in the sand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

You're arguing who "would have" beaten who, and it will never happen or be able to be proven. Who's the real idiot?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

Why, because you said so? They tried to play up at this age (9th) and lost early on at US lax u15. They still have several small players, fact! Not saying they are not a very skilled bunch but no more so than Crush. Do you have game stats to back up your claims? Were Turtles beating teams at same margin? Just not sure what you're basing your statement on. Oh, and Turtles stuggled to win tournaments last summer, maybe a sign of what's to come of Crush in a few years? Both teams have enjoyed a run as "top team in country " but all good things eventually come to an end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

I can't defend the coaches behavior and how he things not playing his bench at 13 years old is "teaching life lessons" but in terms of 2020 year being weak, I'm not buying it. Crush beats most 2019 teams. Not a few, most top level 2019 teams lose to crush. There are also other top 2020 teams that play up and win which should never happen.

If you are paying and get the recommendation, they will allow it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.

I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .

That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.

You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.

Turtles had more holdbacks - they were an innovator with the older kids playing against younger kids thing.

Turtles beat several excellent 2016 teams along the way. Crush played a very good - but not great - Sweetlax 2019 team and lost convincingly.

You Crush lovers who don't agree obviously never saw the Turtles play back then.

Keep crowing about your meaningless Denver championship. Nobody cares who wins MS tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles beat several excellent 2016 teams along the way. Crush played a very good - but not great - Sweetlax 2019 team and lost convincingly.

You Crush lovers who don't agree obviously never saw the Turtles play back then.

Keep crowing about your meaningless Denver championship. Nobody cares who wins MS tournaments.

Turtles were beat cleanly by express 2016 and FCA. Just a couple I saw. What "Excellent "2016 teams did they beat? They are not even able to beat the top teams in their age group anymore.

Which top 2019 teams has Crush beaten ? In the past year ? They will have some very competitive games this year vs 2020's. On LI.

You are all F------ Crazy!

Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.

Blah Blah.

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

the only thing worse than reading this crap is listening to you idiots on the sidelines talking about kids like they are free agents in MLB or the NFL .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.

No, they're still the best and their best players don't come off the field.

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

The Turtles were a great team. This Crush team is just a good one built around 3-6 players. They will get surpassed pretty soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.

And breakers beat FCA twice...and FCA has never beat Crabs but that was not the discussion. Looneys and Crabs will not beat Crush this year. If they even come close it is only due to the large number of holdbacks involved especially on Crabs 2020. Play with Denver qualifiers only and most AA 2020s would beat Crabs and Looneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.

Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.

Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

The Turtles were a great team. This Crush team is just a good one built around 3-6 players. They will get surpassed pretty soon.

LIke what happened to the Turtles this year?? Your argument is pathetic and you just disproved your own point!

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U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period. [/quote]

FCA beat Looney in league play, FCA wouldn't have a chance if Looney had their FOGO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

Crush was invited to play Terps Classic 2019 this November if they aren't so good the college coaches disagree as that is a highly regarded event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

Don't forget that those 2019's were most likely already 2018 holdbacks... MD, PA and Mass teams don't get better. They just get older and older. My son is College sophomore at age 19. In MD, PA or Mass he'd be a HS Senior or Junior. His sophomore roommate just turned 21, I kid you not!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

I was there for looneys loss. If 91 didn't do all their tricks shots it would have been 10-1 at half

Where are 2020 teams headed this fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush was invited to play Terps Classic 2019 this November if they aren't so good the college coaches disagree as that is a highly regarded event

Good luck with that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

Those were kids that already reclassed. They were just too old for Denver. But they are 2020s. Whether you like it or not, they lost. I know it is super hard for some to swallow, but it happened. I also think Looney's are close too. Not sure why some people on LI are so defensive about it, I would think they would like right games it will only make everyone better

Fca? Come on man! Win a tourney first then you can talk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

I was there for looneys loss. If 91 didn't do all their tricks shots it would have been 10-1 at half

That's a pretty funny statement. What does that mean? If they didn't play their game? Give me a break- Looneys couldn't beat them so 91 must have used their tricks? News flash... Shooting behind the back is not considered a trick. Passing behind the back is not considered a trick. It's a part of the game and a more advanced skill set that these kids mastered early on. They did not trick the Looneys to steal the game, the Looneys just didn't know when to expect certain moves leaving them at a disadvantage. That said, Looneys- crabs etc are good teams but the constant bashing and trying to reason away why 91 beat you as if they are playing unfairly is ridiculous.

Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams

LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!

Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

Those were kids that already reclassed. They were just too old for Denver. But they are 2020s. Whether you like it or not, they lost. I know it is super hard for some to swallow, but it happened. I also think Looney's are close too. Not sure why some people on LI are so defensive about it, I would think they would like right games it will only make everyone better

Those kids had not officially reclassed yet -they had just finished 8th grade at a private school while the remainder of kids in Maryland were still attending school. They had not started 8th or 9th grade in the fall yet, were still on the rosters for 2019 Crabs And played with the 2019 for other tourneys the weeks after beach lax. Stop kidding yourself - everyone knows how Crabs operates and frankly the rest of the 2020s don't consider you a valid team due to your ways. Happy to play you but most have no respect for any of your wins. You lost bad when you played with an age appropriate team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.

Looneys doesn't have tons of hold backs or any double hold backs. 3 kids with summer 01 bdays. Your team is fantastic and clearly the best 2020. There's no reason to make things up just because there was a close game

Crush dads are weird. Those kids had reclassed and it doesn't matter if you like the practice or not. Both Crabs and Looneys will be even stronger this fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.

FCA beat Looney in league play, FCA wouldn't have a chance if Looney had their FOGO. [/quote]

...if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

New year, new talent on teams in Baltimore.... going to be fun to watch. All teams seem to have upgraded. FCA & Looney's for sure.

Which 2020 Team 91 Maryland team is better (Force or Platinum)? How do they compare to the other 2020 Maryland teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which 2020 Team 91 Maryland team is better (Force or Platinum)? How do they compare to the other 2020 Maryland teams?

Force was Breakers AA and Platinum was Breakers A. Same coaches and core of players. Breakers AA was very good but maybe a notch below Crabs, Looneys, FCA. Although they beat FCA for Koopers league championship. Breakers A was very good at that level. As T91 they are touting themselves as AA. Would assume both teams added some good players but it seems all teams have. Should be fun to watch these kids play each other in MD and then play the best from NY, PA and elsewhere. Hopefully parents and coaches keep all in perspective.

force is their better team. May the force be with them because they are going to need it!

People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?

Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.

Anyone who says 2020 isn't a strong year is wrong. There's no difference year-to-year, all the great 2019 teams beat the 2020 teams, all the great 2020 teams beat up on the 2021 teams, etc. Dumb discussion topic. Crush is best, but gap closing and they only play a few kids, but their starters are the best, no doubt. Then there's 5 or 6 teams that can really play but can't beat the Crush.

Edge Ontario are playing Sweetlax Fall 2020 Oct 4 Rumble in Richmond Oct 31-Nov 1 2019 Adrenaline Platinum Leesburg Va. Nov 13 2019 and NYPLL Autumn Classic Nov 14 2020 looking forward to playing Looney's again. Hopefully the Crabs won't put us in the same preliminary group again. Wherever you are headed we hope you have a great season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.

Why not? It's a weak year because you said so? You still have failed to give any specific examples to back up your claims. Turtles stopped playing up at this year because they were losing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.

It definitely wasn't the OP who put them into the same conversation with the Turtles, someone just randomly said "they are nowhere near the Turtles at that age" - completely irrelevant, and useless to argue about in this forum or context. The initial point was that Crush is the best current 2020 team, and since Turtles isn't, it simply doesn't matter. If 2020 is a down year - and maybe it is in LI (I doubt it though), but it definitely isn't in other regions like MD - that should be even more evidence that supports the argument that Crush is the top 2020 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?

It sure ain't Looneys - they need to get in line!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?

How many of these 9 or so teams can beat or gove the 2019 team a good game. Seen Crush play LAxachusettes and although crush lost, they gave them a good game (regardless of the ages on the Laxachuesttes team).

DID we forget the VAIL ?? Looney over FCA??

Looney's had 3 players out in the early spring..then team learned the system..they are very good and fun to watch..
Cant wait to see new 2020 teams match up.
Overall, 2020's are loaded with talent.

I've said the same thing in a past post. I don't mean to insult the kids but there's not as much talent as older grades.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.

Looneys doesn't have tons of hold backs or any double hold backs. 3 kids with summer 01 bdays. Your team is fantastic and clearly the best 2020. There's no reason to make things up just because there was a close game

Summer 01 birthdays, guess that makes it ok.

No, didn't forget. The FCA team that Looneys beat was not the MD club FCA team. players from all over the country on that team that never played together before that weekend. FCA MD club upgraded in several positions this year and should be a good test for Looneys and others. I agree that Crush is still the top team.

2020 is a deep class. Quit acting like children and enjoy this. Crush is #1 until someone knocks them off. All other teams mentioned are very good teams too. Enjoy this time!

My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!

CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.

So what! We have July 2002 on our 2020 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

There are some Great 2020 teams outside of Crush. Looney's, Crabs,Express, Legacy, Sons, Laxachusettes can all compete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 is a deep class. Quit acting like children and enjoy this. Crush is #1 until someone knocks them off. All other teams mentioned are very good teams too. Enjoy this time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.

Yes, and everyone knows it. Let them play whatever year they pick as most convenient because the rest of the community just discounts their performance for what it is.-bigger, stronger, older. Holdbacks have destroyed that team for any true on age kids that might be left.

Watch out for 3D Nova Scotia this fall. They upgraded in many positions and stole the top players from Haitian Express. Will give Crush a run for their money this year. Mark my word.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch out for 3D Nova Scotia this fall. They upgraded in many positions and stole the top players from Haitian Express. Will give Crush a run for their money this year. Mark my word.

My money is on Team 91 Arkansas

July 02 is what your supposed to have in 2020.

Should be interesting, half of the 2016 Crabs team that competed well against Turtles are now on the 2020 Crabs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!

I know a few superb 2019 defensemen with the end of Sept 2001 DOB on Li who could turn the 2020 world upside down if they "reclassed". Instead I am sure they will continue to challenge themselves at 2019 and if they want to play lax in college and get the opportunity at 2020 in a few years... I am sure they will take it.

So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.

Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.

Two kids on 2019 last year are on 2020 this year. That might be a record low number for BLC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?

Good luck with Edge. They play by their own rules and the tournament organizers will not stand up to them.

Still talking about that? Those kids got beat up should not have been out there. As for age, not one college coach cares how old you are- just grades and 4 years of playing time. JS incited the whole thing when he f-bombed those kids when they were jockeying for the cage without the sun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?

Good luck with Edge. They play by their own rules and the tournament organizers will not stand up to them.

As a gambling man I would think the 2001 team. Wink wink.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

A group of 2019 dads may take some boys born after 5/1/2001 mixed in with some top 2020 players and play some 2020 tournaments to see if the reclass really is a deal breaker. From there they will decide if they will reclass or not. the name of the team will be... Potent IAL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!

Yeah, and.....? That's where he is supposed to be, what's the point ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Well said! We will keep crying while you keep cheating. Until your game of smoke and mirrors runs out. When it all evens out you will be the one crying while your "superstar" rides the bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!

Yeah, and.....? That's where he is supposed to be, what's the point ?

Um, I think that was his point.

we need to play down we are only in the process of learning the outdoor game. Our team are all 2001's

Go read the rules for the Adrenaline Fall Classic there is an actual rider for "out of country teams"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we need to play down we are only in the process of learning the outdoor game. Our team are all 2001's

Meaning the EDGE 2020 team playing at Cornell this week? Our 2020 boys born in 2002 are also still learning the game. Is that the excuse du jour?

Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...

Exactly. They said they have a few summer 2001 kids playing 2020. That's my point.

It's cheating !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's cheating !

You're an idiot, and completely clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.

91 Crush recieved 10 invites.

any top 2020 teams have a few kids with older birthdates. Some also have holdbacks. it is a fact. Not just in MD but in NY, PA, NJ, MASS., EVERYWHERE! You are a complete fool if you think the top 2020 teams dont have a few older kids. It is everywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.

91 Crush recieved 10 invites.

They got 5, so did express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...

Not totally accurate. Per the reference to Adrenaline rules above - which I checked - at least one tournament organizers lets Canadian kids with earlier graduation dates play in 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...

15 year olds playing 13 year olds, but wait, there are graduating 2020 so you are right, it is irrelevant.

crush recieved 8 invites

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

Girls are done growing by 14, while some boys are just starting at that age, so it's the same type of maturity issue. Not even close. Nice try!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush recieved 8 invites

6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...

15 year olds playing 13 year olds, but wait, there are graduating 2020 so you are right, it is irrelevant.

Yes, it is irrelevant. you can complain and whine about it constantly, but at the end of the day, grade is grade. That is why it is irrelevant - why can you not see how ridiculous the argument is? You're discussing two different topics - age is one measuring stick, reserved for U based (and apparently international - which is done because Canada apparently includes a PG year in their "norm" so Edge plays everyone down all the time, but who cares about them anyway), and grade based is grade based - it is what it is. Why cry about it??

Do you guys view kids in NY born Sept-Dec 2001 who started school later than their peers differently than MD/PA kids who were born June-July 2001 that started late?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.

Looney's, FCA and Crabs 2020 are going to smash Crush this fall. As in "green Hulk hands smash".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's, FCA and Crabs 2020 are going to smash Crush this fall. As in "green Hulk hands smash".

That'd be really embarrassing for the holdbacks if they can't or possibly can only win in a one goal OT game. Might possibly want to reclass again to 2021 just in case.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush recieved 8 invites

6

Crabs received 37 invites and holdbacks are being shuttled there on a private jet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush recieved 8 invites

6

Crabs received 37 invites and holdbacks are being shuttled there on a private jet.

5, from the man. Heard there was a little whining about it

Hawks play the game better than the 3 above mentioned. Looneys Same old no O but decent team D. Fca added a few good attackman. Crabs still gets the best in the grade base system.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.

Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.

Hawks are pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.

Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.

Let the cheating holdbacks enjoy it now. After spending all the money to artificially make their kids look good for a couple years, reality will set in as others catch up. Most will eventually just be known as the cheater who was not good enough to compete at their proper age group. Sad that a parent would do that to their kid, actually bizzare!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.

Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.

Let the cheating holdbacks enjoy it now. After spending all the money to artificially make their kids look good for a couple years, reality will set in as others catch up. Most will eventually just be known as the cheater who was not good enough to compete at their proper age group. Sad that a parent would do that to their kid, actually bizzare!

No, they will refer to those kids as ones who are playing college lax. It might make you mad, but that is the reality.

Keep crying, Long Island!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks play the game better than the 3 above mentioned. Looneys Same old no O but decent team D. Fca added a few good attackman. Crabs still gets the best in the grade base system.

How did Hawks do against crabs, looneys and fca this past tournament season?

You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.

Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.

Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.

No, quite the contrary logic, parents don't cheat for their daughters, don't hold them back because it's not that embarrassing when your daughter isn't a great athlete but your son must be right guy? Play him against kids his own age and he becomes just average or below average and you can't handle that.

Ironically our friends to the north opened the door for this now almost universal grade based segmentation of youth club lacrosse. In 2012 there were ZERO grade based clubs in MD. Breakers, FCA, Hawks, Madlax, Looneys, Roughriders, Green Turtle.... even Crabs were age based -- u11, u13, u15 in youth and then grade in HS. And all local tournaments were age based. I think when rec teams started getting pounding by teams named Express 2019, Crush 2020 etc in what had been rec tournaments LaxSpash/Beachlax -- the seas of change were set in motion. That scourge of youth sports took over � the need to win at all costs and opportunity to make money. The next thing you know its dump the rec programs and organize by grade to take advantage of kids who were held back in kindergarten. More clubs, more tournaments, more money. Now we have Team 91 MD breaking new ground on how much money we can fleece parents for in youth lax in MD. My original point is that clubs in Maryland, DC and Va followed the format created in NY. It�s imperfect and unnecessary but for the most part keeps kids within an 18 month window. Of course there are some that push the limit but the �double hold-back� is a myth. There is a rule in the MIAA that you can�t turn 19 before school year and play a sport. Anyway you can�t blame teams for organizing by grade when that�s how tournaments and teams from other regions are formed. If clubs on LI feel the system is unfair/unsafe � let�s see some leadership organize your teams/tournaments by single year�s u11, u12, u13 etc and based on US Lax 9/1 cut-offs. Many including me would welcome the change. Until then you are just whining about a system you helped create.

Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?

Edge 6 fl$ 4..all games were very competitive between Sweetlax Edge and fl$. The FCA North-East team were overmatched. Great venue and weather. In the 2021 division Team Igloo dominated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?

fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.

We always tell the organizers the age of our kids. Sweetlax had no problem with it. Oldest may 5/2001 youngest Jan 17/2002. The tournament was competitive and fl$ actually deserved to win the final but the edge goalies stood on his head. We don't hide behind the fact that we play in both the 2019 and 2020 division. Read the rules for Adrenaline out of country is exempt. Yet we are playing 2019 there and in Richmond. NYPLL we are playing 2020 and Sweetlax we played 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge 6 fl$ 4..all games were very competitive between Sweetlax Edge and fl$. The FCA North-East team were overmatched. Great venue and weather. In the 2021 division Team Igloo dominated.

Was the Sweetlax FOGO from Long Island?

yes. not as dominant as he usually is/once was...

yes he is very good. Took our guys awhile to figure him out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?

fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.

Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?

All is good with fl$, thank you. See you soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?

fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.

Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?

Sweetlax lost to Edge in overtime. Edge was a ninth grade team. Very big and skilled. Igloo 2021 looked very good, probably could have played up and done well, except size would have been an issue with Edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?

fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.

Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?

Sweetlax lost to Edge in overtime. Edge was a ninth grade team. Very big and skilled. Igloo 2021 looked very good, probably could have played up and done well, except size would have been an issue with Edge

FYI Igloo 2021 would not do well against any good 2020 teams, you are smoking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.

91 Crush recieved 10 invites.

They got 5, so did express

wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ironically our friends to the north opened the door for this now almost universal grade based segmentation of youth club lacrosse. In 2012 there were ZERO grade based clubs in MD. Breakers, FCA, Hawks, Madlax, Looneys, Roughriders, Green Turtle.... even Crabs were age based -- u11, u13, u15 in youth and then grade in HS. And all local tournaments were age based. I think when rec teams started getting pounding by teams named Express 2019, Crush 2020 etc in what had been rec tournaments LaxSpash/Beachlax -- the seas of change were set in motion. That scourge of youth sports took over � the need to win at all costs and opportunity to make money. The next thing you know its dump the rec programs and organize by grade to take advantage of kids who were held back in kindergarten. More clubs, more tournaments, more money. Now we have Team 91 MD breaking new ground on how much money we can fleece parents for in youth lax in MD. My original point is that clubs in Maryland, DC and Va followed the format created in NY. It�s imperfect and unnecessary but for the most part keeps kids within an 18 month window. Of course there are some that push the limit but the �double hold-back� is a myth. There is a rule in the MIAA that you can�t turn 19 before school year and play a sport. Anyway you can�t blame teams for organizing by grade when that�s how tournaments and teams from other regions are formed. If clubs on LI feel the system is unfair/unsafe � let�s see some leadership organize your teams/tournaments by single year�s u11, u12, u13 etc and based on US Lax 9/1 cut-offs. Many including me would welcome the change. Until then you are just whining about a system you helped create.

100% spot on true and accurate and the best post in this entire forum...

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Be happy you got 5 other teams got 0. Respect is earned not giving. Other Long Island teams need to smack down express to start getting noticed. You will all get your chance to beat us if we go to any tournaments you are in. Until than its crush and us on Long Island.

Edge here we up graded 8 players from the team that played sweetlax last year. fl$ are a much better team than they were last year. Could have won the final if they didn't run into a hot goalie

Looneys 2020..5..Hawks 0...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2020..5..Hawks 0...

Where???

express author...so humble. Enjoy beating your drum.

The Express folks may not understand this mathematical equation so perhaps someone can help them with it but:

Legacy > LI EXPRESS Twerps

The proof to said equation will be released soon.

YOUNG GUNS....this past summer
HAWKS forgot where the goal was...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YOUNG GUNS....this past summer
HAWKS forgot where the goal was...

Why bring up game from 2014/15 between MD teams on board for 2015/16 NY?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge here we up graded 8 players from the team that played sweetlax last year. fl$ are a much better team than they were last year. Could have won the final if they didn't run into a hot goalie

Edge parent huh? Yeah and I'm Santa Claus.

yes edge parent u want my postal code?

[quote=Anonymous]yes edge parent u want my postal code? [/quote

Edge parent, don't even bother with that poster, he's just a bitter ex-fl$ parent who can't move on. Appreciate you guys making the trip on Sunday and giving us two great games.

Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.

Can't wait until all the Baltimore teams crush Crush in the fall or summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.

So who played in this tournament and what were the scores?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't wait until all the Baltimore teams crush Crush in the fall or summer.

Sad state of affairs when you can only dream of doing that now because you kicked off all your age appropriate kids to replace them with older kids. News flash- you didn't get better- you got older. Losers with a need to be noticed drop down to play younger kids. Talented kids stay on age and play up. Hope your teams aren't embarassed by younger kids. You best be able to double digit win if your older players are so good, otherwise they just may have wasted a year and look silly not being able to stand out against the younger kids.

If you were that good, your whole team would play up. That's where the coaches will be this year. I'm sure the LI teams will challenge themselves- but the Baltimore holdbacks won't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.

So who played in this tournament and what were the scores?

refer to page 45

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Your kid born in Q4? Just go to calendar year groupings, 5/1, 9/1, all arbitrary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!

Why not just play in year of birth? Why do 9/1 it just opens up for abuse. This system works in hockey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!

Be careful what you wish for. The next thing will be regulating if kids are legally allowed to be cut from a team....Sports need to fix themselves from within.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!

Be careful what you wish for. The next thing will be regulating if kids are legally allowed to be cut from a team....Sports need to fix themselves from within.

Agreed , but do you think that with this sport in particular it would actually happen from within ? I honestly don't think so.

Keep crying, Long Island!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island!

Keep cheating Maryland!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.

Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.

Your kid born in Q4? Just go to calendar year groupings, 5/1, 9/1, all arbitrary

8/31 or 9/1 is used for most sports because they are trying to align as close as possible by grade and most of the country uses a 9/1 school cutoff. Understand NY does not but the rest of the country does and it allows as many kids as possible to play with their legitimate classmates. It is also the date that the old age system in youth lacrosse used before the grade based system was pushed.

So how do 2019 kids get to play on 2020 teams? Is that only allowed for daddy coaches kids, or can my 2019 kid tryout for a 2020 team next year? Just wondering how it works?

Keep crying, Long Island!

I agree, ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!

i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!

i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.

I'm not sure that's true. It's not most. It's some. And many of those you mentioned were already stand out players that did a PG year for a variety of reasons. Doing a PG year after you are already committed is very different that putting your 9th grader on an 8th grade team to make him look better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island!

Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island!

Keep cheating, Maryland!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!

i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.

Guess that makes it alright then.

Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.

They are from Calgary, Western Canada. Where are you playing them? Looks like a west Coast version of Edge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.

They are from Calgary, Western Canada. Where are you playing them? Looks like a west Coast version of Edge.

Richmond

Run by Geoff Snider face-off man fro Canada. In Canada quality of play goes Ontario BC Alberta in that order. They may be older but I wouldn't lose any sleep about playing them. What tournament are they traveling to? They usually play mid-west and western USA. There base in Calgary

Rumble in Richmond?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island!

Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.

Where?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep crying, Long Island!

Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.

Where?

please don't say the practice fields off EI.

Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.

Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.

Wow. A little LI envy?! Pent up anger. Good luck nut job.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.

Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.

Nope. No holdbacks on this team (not that teams with holdbacks are breaking the rules).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. A little LI envy?! Pent up anger. Good luck nut job.

Envious that you can't beat us without holding back? Try playing up if your going to brag before the games are even played. A nut job is someone who knows his kid can't win against his own age group.

um, i think we are aligned against this mid-atlantic uprising...no wonder so many want to knock LI down...

These anonymous pissing matches over LI vs MD or between clubs are pathetic. The kids that end up playing in college become teammates and friends for life with other kids from all over. You guys should get a hobby of your own to brag or fight about. Golf, Tennis, softball, yoga? Fantasy football if you can't leave your computer.

What is a midatlantic team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.

Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.

Nope. No holdbacks on this team (not that teams with holdbacks are breaking the rules).

I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.

Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State

Good for them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State

Lol, anyone that thinks a 13 year old is equipt to make a decision like this is CRAZY!! If you are that good, coaches will wait

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Kids are smart to look at schools early, it's the committing early part that is questionable. Fall is a great time to explore campuses

Kids should visits schools early it's the committing early that's the problem. The fall is a great time to visit campuses. why wait til summer time to start touring ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.

If every bride is beautifull...why are there so many ugly wives?

Keep crying, Long Island

It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits.

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It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits. [/quote]

Yea they should keep it a secret. You sound ridiculous and I'm not from that side. Visiting schools isn't the issue committing is but how would you know Also can't imagine the moderator/ are ok w name calling like that Take a Valium and enjoy the beautiful day instead of stalking

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.

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It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits. [/quote]

Yes he is Satan, giving his kids an edge when he can, the worst kind of guy looking out for the kids that play for him, how dare he!

There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you

What is nutz is that you believe what an anonymous poster says when they obviously have an agenda.. Come on.. wake up. What if they did, anyway? What's it to ya?

Confused as to why kids visiting a college campus and playing lacrosse is a crime. Any of the kids commit ? No. End of the story How's it any different than people posting igloo at Cornell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you

After being through this with another, I can tell you the coaches will wait. Not only will they wait, they will beg you to break your commitment, if you decide to make one. My son committed early, and continued to Excell at the same level. Plenty of schools made offers after the verbal. We stuck with the commitment because it was a good fit with a generous scholarship. Point is you will have plenty of choices if you are worthy.

How do the 2020 teams stack up this year? Any big moves or changes that will give teams an edge? I am curious about the Maryland teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.

[quote=Anonymous]Confused as to why kids visiting a college campus and playing lacrosse is a crime. Any of the kids commit ? No. End of the story How's it any different than people posting igloo at Cornell [/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.

It all seems like great stuff to me. Football at Ohio State, 107,000 fans, every kid would want to do it, so would every dad that is any sort of a sports fan if you ask me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.

Fyi, this was not a recruiting visit. Just a campus vsit. There is a big difference. Plenty of kids have started to do this. The arguably best kids on the team were not there. I would doubt any of those kids actually have their eye on OSU, not to knock the program, just think they have higher aspirations!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.

What a farce, the one kid who will unquestionably get a lot of very early love is the Crush lefty attackman and he didn't bother to make the trip. I ran into the kid and dad over the weekend, dad is a real good dude has his head on straight. This kid didn't make the trip but a 6th grader was on a "recruiting visit" . Wake up people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.

Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.

Fyi, this was not a recruiting visit. Just a campus vsit. There is a big difference. Plenty of kids have started to do this. The arguably best kids on the team were not there. I would doubt any of those kids actually have their eye on OSU, not to knock the program, just think they have higher aspirations!

Really ? I know of one other that is D1 material and that's if he grows. Individual play is not over the top except for Attackman. We'll coached and trained as a Unit.

This is not unique to 91. fl$ is trying to organize a 7 day bus tour where for a fee (ha!) they will take a group of kids (including 8th graders) to visit a long list of colleges.

I think there are at least 4/5 D1 on that team. You will see

Further evidence that 2020 Crush is just about 5 guys. They couldn't care less about the rest of the team, as long as those 5 kids are promoted 24x7, especially that particular one.

Legacy beat express north 19-0
Looks like they are the #2 team, may even give Crush a game. Was wondering why Terps didn't show to this tournament, now I know!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Further evidence that 2020 Crush is just about 5 guys. They couldn't care less about the rest of the team, as long as those 5 kids are promoted 24x7, especially that particular one.

Not that you deserve it but FYI entire team invited Now enjoy East Islip today and keep reporting the scores

TAZ only ties Rising Sons 5-5. I believe you beat them last season. A little premature to be pounding your chest and talking about a competitive game against Crush.

Taz V Crush wouldnt be competitive

Sons added some talented players

Watched Taz first hand today. Was totally unimpressed.. They are good don't get me wrong but no where close to Crush

was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.

That is because I bet over 1/2 of their team is already 14

Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.

Sons were just ok, Taz should've beat them, surprised it wasn't a Taz win by a couple of goals. Taz very strong team, improved at most positions and they play hard. They run a short bench, didn't see a lot of substitutions, maybe run two midfields and 3-4 attack. They'll be right there after Crush with Express, but to say they're #2 isn't warranted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched Taz first hand today. Was totally unimpressed.. They are good don't get me wrong but no where close to Crush

Anone that plays the Sons is not going to impress.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.

Sons were just ok, Taz should've beat them, surprised it wasn't a Taz win by a couple of goals. Taz very strong team, improved at most positions and they play hard. They run a short bench, didn't see a lot of substitutions, maybe run two midfields and 3-4 attack. They'll be right there after Crush with Express, but to say they're #2 isn't warranted.

Uhh, Sons left two on the door step, point blank. Had they won any face offs they win that game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.

That is because I bet over 1/2 of their team is already 14

Good thing are 3 biggest poles were not there. All age appropriate

Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz

Even with Taz improving, They still cant beat Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz

No, Express will avoid this meeting. Miss the days when all the top teams showed to Halloween Havoc and let results determine the pecking order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy beat express north 19-0
Looks like they are the #2 team, may even give Crush a game. Was wondering why Terps didn't show to this tournament, now I know!

The LIE North team must have been a B team, I watched the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz

No, Express will avoid this meeting. Miss the days when all the top teams showed to Halloween Havoc and let results determine the pecking order.

It's pathetic that all the Long Island teams can't play a few home tournaments in the fall - Express, Legacy, Outlaws, whatever, get fields, get dates, and let the kids stay home and play!

Legacy > Twerps. Will never post here again if I'm wrong. Looking forward to seeing this match up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy > Twerps. Will never post here again if I'm wrong. Looking forward to seeing this match up.

Please don't put it all the line, your posts are so riveting/insightful, if Legacy happens to lose, please grace us with your literary insights forever, pick something else, more important to give up

After yesterday i think legacy should stay off this board until you actually beat a team not tie an average team . Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand .

Hearing a lot of discontent among the Crush kids who are not supported/promoted. Some are apparently going to leave soon for a different club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hearing a lot of discontent among the Crush kids who are not supported/promoted. Some are apparently going to leave soon for a different club.

Going to play for the Easter Bunnies is what I've heard.

What were people's thoughts that were at Legacy Sons game as well as Igloo 2021 vs Legacy

Last year Legacy played tough games and have beat Laxachussets, Crabs, Loonies, Rising Sons - all top teams, just to name a few. Tied Terps in scrimmages but haven't beat Terps yet.
They are working hard and are consistently improving.

Uncle on Legacy beating Terps.. its not gonna' happen anytime soon... And YES they TIED R Sons yesterday, thats all.....

AND BTW:
I would rather my sons team be Constantly improving, not consistently improving...

Legacy was much better than Igloo 2021 in the championship.

"Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand."

Yeah, says who? The above statement is ridiculous. I don't think express needs to show anything to anyone...or care. YOU may want them there to prove yourself. Hopefully the express kids had a nice weekend off...its fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand."

Yeah, says who? The above statement is ridiculous. I don't think express needs to show anything to anyone...or care. YOU may want them there to prove yourself. Hopefully the express kids had a nice weekend off...its fall.

Good to see there are more than just two good club teams, this year we'll hopefully have 4-6 strong teams that can find ways to stay home, invite some PA, NJ, MA, CT teams to the strong island and prove the strength of LI lax.

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there was no competition at the x. Legacy has good players at all positions, but no real studs. That is why they will run into trouble when they vs. The elite teams. The teams at this tournament were b teams, with the exception of Igloo, who were young.

Only half of Igloo's team is young, lol

all this chatter about legacy on how they are competitive with most of the top teams in the country. And they are, but yesterday as my 2021 son finished his tournament swung by to Legacy vs Outlaws, and to be honest it was a pretty competitive game for the first 20 minutes. I believe it was 3-1 then the Outlaws were gased and just got out played. Yes, Legacy is the better team, but Outlaws have definitely improved, especially with their new coaches. Excited to see how far they go this year.

Typical Outlaws parent...If you came over to just watch .Why are you excited to see the Outlaws. Get a grip. Yes they definitely got some new talent and Smithtown coaches. But still a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical Outlaws parent...If you came over to just watch .Why are you excited to see the Outlaws. Get a grip. Yes they definitely got some new talent and Smithtown coaches. But still a B team.

Maybe the coach who has arguably the best attack and f/o units in the country will coach up that team. Time will tell.

Not from Long Island. Can someone rate the 2020 LI teams for me. You have so many teams there it gets very confusing. I am not poking the beehive here. I'm from outside the USA!

OK- NPYLL Championship game 2 consecutive seasons. Pathetic?

Top 10 on Long Island
1 91 Crush
2 Express Terps
BIG DROP OFF

3 Leg Taz
4 Igloo
5 fl$
6 Express B
7 Team 32
8 BlueFish
9 Outlaws
10 Leg Rav

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10 on Long Island
1 91 Crush
2 Express Terps
BIG DROP OFF

3 Leg Taz
4 Igloo
5 fl$
6 Express B
7 Team 32
8 BlueFish
9 Outlaws
10 Leg Rav

Crush
BIG DROP OFF

Express
Legacy
fl$
Outlaws
No clue

...great, thank you. It was nice of the Igloo daddy to start that list off...

whoops. sorry to poke fun. I didn't realize that someone had asked the question. Thanks Igloo dad.

Thanks for the feedback and we have played 91,fl$ and Igloo in the past and would suggest the current fl$ are a little stronger than Igloo if they didn't upgrade from July this year. Cheers

here we with the lists again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

here we with the lists again.

Don't worry, in another year your KIDS will be ranked by na me and position. Then the claws will really come out!

It is difficult to rank the teams since every team upgraded their roster while all of the other teams lost their best players.

I think the Blue Fish team is alot of GC kids who did make their travel team or any other travel teams so I can't see them being that good, as the GC 2020 team is not very strong in the first place.

The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...

How is it broken? Just curious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?

nope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?

nope

Yep, Legacy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?

nope

Yep, Legacy

Who?

what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.

Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?

nope

Yep, Legacy

Who?

Ask the Legacy kid who was cut so a 2019 kid could take his place.

Only 3 or 4 go kids on bluefish a. Think the b team has most of them. A team is a very good mix. But very early to say how they will be. A lot of talent but kids never played together

This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.

Originally Posted by The Hop

This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.

Thanks for sharing HOP!

you should post that on every thread on here.

Nice post, unfortunately many kids succeed on LI (and probably elsewhere ) due to their own hard work and perseverance. Despite the coach, most of them with an agenda that does not include your son. Having three boys going through or have gone through the process, one is an all American despite of the coaches who didn�t believe in him, but jumped on the bandwagon to take credit. Ultimately your son will succeed at this sport if he keeps his eyes on his goals (with the never-ending support of his PARENTS)! Remember that that there is NO substitute for practice, practice, practice! Good luck to all the underdogs out there! Go out and prove people wrong!

Originally Posted by The Hop

This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.

Just in case anyone is wondering, this story was originally published in 1976 as a work of fiction so it isn't true. However, the moral and lessons to be learned, whether true or not, absolutely deserve to be shared and followed.

Who coaches the 2020 Terps team, Wieczorek?

yes, always has.

Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.

Thanks so much Mr. Trump! Dope.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.

You my friend are a complete idiot.

Bluefish B had a solid day today. How did Bluefish A do at Hofstra ?

A lot of complete idiots in this sport.

Has Igloo played yet this fall? How'd they look?

How come the little bald 2020 legacy b coach coaches 3 teams and scams his kids to the most playing. At the expense of every other kid in these teams. He is a pal coach who never played anywhere. Yet he kisses every ones but to get his kids everything he can. He just took time away from my son at the Columbus Day tournament. This is a joke and so is legacy for having a blind eye to this fake guy with his personnel agenda.

why does he have to be bald?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How come the little bald 2020 legacy b coach coaches 3 teams and scams his kids to the most playing. At the expense of every other kid in these teams. He is a pal coach who never played anywhere. Yet he kisses every ones but to get his kids everything he can. He just took time away from my son at the Columbus Day tournament. This is a joke and so is legacy for having a blind eye to this fake guy with his personnel agenda.

I can't remember his name but I heard he was a good coach and that's an A level team. Not true I guess?

while its still early on this thread, I took this from the 2019 thread as it is informative and well written.

This will be long winded but hopefully valuable to some family considering making a college early commit decision in the next weeks/months

there is nothing wrong with a 9th grader giving a verbal commitment with a 20%- 30% athletic scholarship offer to a great school. Why do you care if he does? How exactly does it harm the kid or the game?

So what if he never even steps on the field in college, he is on a D-1 team with all the privileges that come with being a d-1 athlete...

think academic advisers and tutors that are not available to the average freshman non athlete. think paying less for the same education than those non athletes. think being part of a team and transitioning from high school to college as part of a culture that requires work ethic and accountability

think of his first interview after college in his chosen field and being able to say, I played d-1. total commitment to a team while maintaining a great gpa. I hire a few new kids every year and the d-1 athletes (whether or not it is lax, whether or not they ever step on the field) always have an advantage over the non athletes because i know that any kid that can maintain good grades while working full time (yes-d-1 athletics are full time jobs) are more likely than not to be workers. doesn't work out 100% of the time, but the odds are in my favor to hire the d-1 athlete kid over the kid that got through with the exact same gpa but no athletics...

for all those saying late bloomers will eventually rule the day-good for those kids, i wish them and their families nothing but the best. but please be realistic, the top 20 programs, with the most dollars to spend on lax scholarships (most d-1 lax programs are not fully funded, those that are fully funded have only 12.5 scholarships to parse out among 45-60 kids-the math doesn't lie) are mostly fully committed by fall of soph year. It means that the late bloomer needs to be an incredible stud just to get a spot on that team, and forget scholarship money in year one. yes, maybe that kid will get dollars in year two, I hope so for him. But it means that the late bloomer's family is paying ($60k school at 30% scholarship = $18k) $18k more than the early commit kid in year one...

So, think of early recruiting this way-

your kid is not a lax player nor does he know what he wants to do with the rest of his life, but nonetheless, JHU, Penn state, Ohio state, Michigan, Virginia, unc, duke..., offered your kid the ability to get a special discount of 20%-30% reduction in year one price tag with an assurance that he will get into that school as long as he maintains a gpa of xxx with SATS of xxx. He likes all of those schools as do you as they are all top 50 academic institutions according the us news and world report.

he doesn't have to stress over the application process or worry about making his HS extra curricular and community service hours look better than everyone else that also wants to go to that school. He get a special pass to get in as long as he gets the grades, sounds like a pretty good deal doesn't it? If he goes to JHU and wakes up after a year and hates it, he transfers, happens all the time to athletes and non athletes alike. not the end of the world

let's please also remember the college coaches are the ones asking kids to commit. they come offering scholarship dollars and free meal plans and woo them by bringing them to big time college football games and introducing the kids and their parents to the privileged world of d-1 athletics.

Do you all think you are smarter than these coaches? Do you think you are a better judge of talent? Please understand, i mean no disrespect to the kids that aren't fully mature. they will grow when they grow and we all want them to be successful in whatever they choose.

But please stop calling the kids that committed early crazy or saying that they are
somehow ruining the game. they are offered an early spot at a great school and a special discount (still need to get the grades and still no guarantees until you sign the national letter of intent).

My fam has been to all the schools i listed above (2018 early commit) and the range of athletic and academic dollars varied from school to school. My kid liked all the schools, as did the rest of our clan. We chose based upon some of the key criteria below, with different levels of value depending on how important the specific criteria was to our situation -no snarky comments please, this is meant to help some other 2019 fam that is making a decision soon.

-perceived fit academically with an idea towards a major, but he really doesn't know what he wants to do to make a living. He had interest from ivy, but it is important to understand your kid. not everyone-even if they have a 98 gpa, is going to be able to handle the academic pressure at an ivy...to each his own.

--academic support and tutors-not all the schools are equal in this regard, if you have any doubt whether your kid will need this support, make sure you know exactly what is offered. In our experience, the big football schools had the most service relating to this aspect. I was surprised that a few of the schools had very little free support

-perceived fit socially-felt like it was the right size institution for my kid

--size of the campus

--living arrangements-does your fam like those dorms, will he get tripled, how far are dorms from practice facility, from class rooms, from town...

-academic ranking nationally

-coach and team culture (this one was really tough, we liked all the coaches, some more than others, but will that coach still be at that school in three years?) Is my kid a piece of meet because the coach's number one priority is winning a national championship? For this one, and several of the other criteria, i think it is important to talk to some of the current players and their parents. you would be surprised at how open people are--both good and bad

--money offered for athletic scholarship- note every coach told us, yes there is no legal contract, athletic scholarships are year to year, but we guarantee you you will get no less than this percentage all four years. we are smart enough to know that athletic dollars are year to year. do coaches lie? i am sure some do and i am sure some don't. ask the parents of a current player that is not the team stud. they will tell you the truth

--money offered for academics-assuming he maintains gpa of xxx, he will get this amount in academic dollars. note, these academic dollars are more valuable than athletic dollars, not necessarily in terms of percentage, but in terms of the annual renewal. 3.0 in college gpa each year and the academic dollars renew...some schools had no academic dollars for which my kid would qualify

--alumni network--it just means that potentially, you will be more likely to land a job after graduation based upon a strong alumni network, that is the theory anyway

--financial aid- we didn't spend any time on this because my fam can't qualify for aid, while that in and of itself sucks, it means we are lucky in the big picture

I hope this helps someone...

Thanks
That was awesome!

He isn't a good coach. He just tells everyone what they want to hear. He does this to benefit his 3 kids at the expense of others. I have seen him get thrown out of Islip pal lacrosse games on more then one occasion. He is always yelling and needs attention. It is sickening. Now it is taking away from other kids on the legacy teams he is involved with. I wish he would leave. However, he is so far up the directors butts that it looks like I will just have to leave with my kid instead. It is a shame because minus him I really like the legacy program. I have spoken to people on the other teams he is involved with and it is the same thing. The guy is a jerk with a Napoleon complex.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

while its still early on this thread, I took this from the 2019 thread as it is informative and well written.

This will be long winded but hopefully valuable to some family considering making a college early commit decision in the next weeks/months

there is nothing wrong with a 9th grader giving a verbal commitment with a 20%- 30% athletic scholarship offer to a great school. Why do you care if he does? How exactly does it harm the kid or the game?

So what if he never even steps on the field in college, he is on a D-1 team with all the privileges that come with being a d-1 athlete...

think academic advisers and tutors that are not available to the average freshman non athlete. think paying less for the same education than those non athletes. think being part of a team and transitioning from high school to college as part of a culture that requires work ethic and accountability

think of his first interview after college in his chosen field and being able to say, I played d-1. total commitment to a team while maintaining a great gpa. I hire a few new kids every year and the d-1 athletes (whether or not it is lax, whether or not they ever step on the field) always have an advantage over the non athletes because i know that any kid that can maintain good grades while working full time (yes-d-1 athletics are full time jobs) are more likely than not to be workers. doesn't work out 100% of the time, but the odds are in my favor to hire the d-1 athlete kid over the kid that got through with the exact same gpa but no athletics...

for all those saying late bloomers will eventually rule the day-good for those kids, i wish them and their families nothing but the best. but please be realistic, the top 20 programs, with the most dollars to spend on lax scholarships (most d-1 lax programs are not fully funded, those that are fully funded have only 12.5 scholarships to parse out among 45-60 kids-the math doesn't lie) are mostly fully committed by fall of soph year. It means that the late bloomer needs to be an incredible stud just to get a spot on that team, and forget scholarship money in year one. yes, maybe that kid will get dollars in year two, I hope so for him. But it means that the late bloomer's family is paying ($60k school at 30% scholarship = $18k) $18k more than the early commit kid in year one...

So, think of early recruiting this way-

your kid is not a lax player nor does he know what he wants to do with the rest of his life, but nonetheless, JHU, Penn state, Ohio state, Michigan, Virginia, unc, duke..., offered your kid the ability to get a special discount of 20%-30% reduction in year one price tag with an assurance that he will get into that school as long as he maintains a gpa of xxx with SATS of xxx. He likes all of those schools as do you as they are all top 50 academic institutions according the us news and world report.

he doesn't have to stress over the application process or worry about making his HS extra curricular and community service hours look better than everyone else that also wants to go to that school. He get a special pass to get in as long as he gets the grades, sounds like a pretty good deal doesn't it? If he goes to JHU and wakes up after a year and hates it, he transfers, happens all the time to athletes and non athletes alike. not the end of the world

let's please also remember the college coaches are the ones asking kids to commit. they come offering scholarship dollars and free meal plans and woo them by bringing them to big time college football games and introducing the kids and their parents to the privileged world of d-1 athletics.

Do you all think you are smarter than these coaches? Do you think you are a better judge of talent? Please understand, i mean no disrespect to the kids that aren't fully mature. they will grow when they grow and we all want them to be successful in whatever they choose.

But please stop calling the kids that committed early crazy or saying that they are
somehow ruining the game. they are offered an early spot at a great school and a special discount (still need to get the grades and still no guarantees until you sign the national letter of intent).

My fam has been to all the schools i listed above (2018 early commit) and the range of athletic and academic dollars varied from school to school. My kid liked all the schools, as did the rest of our clan. We chose based upon some of the key criteria below, with different levels of value depending on how important the specific criteria was to our situation -no snarky comments please, this is meant to help some other 2019 fam that is making a decision soon.

-perceived fit academically with an idea towards a major, but he really doesn't know what he wants to do to make a living. He had interest from ivy, but it is important to understand your kid. not everyone-even if they have a 98 gpa, is going to be able to handle the academic pressure at an ivy...to each his own.

--academic support and tutors-not all the schools are equal in this regard, if you have any doubt whether your kid will need this support, make sure you know exactly what is offered. In our experience, the big football schools had the most service relating to this aspect. I was surprised that a few of the schools had very little free support

-perceived fit socially-felt like it was the right size institution for my kid

--size of the campus

--living arrangements-does your fam like those dorms, will he get tripled, how far are dorms from practice facility, from class rooms, from town...

-academic ranking nationally

-coach and team culture (this one was really tough, we liked all the coaches, some more than others, but will that coach still be at that school in three years?) Is my kid a piece of meet because the coach's number one priority is winning a national championship? For this one, and several of the other criteria, i think it is important to talk to some of the current players and their parents. you would be surprised at how open people are--both good and bad

--money offered for athletic scholarship- note every coach told us, yes there is no legal contract, athletic scholarships are year to year, but we guarantee you you will get no less than this percentage all four years. we are smart enough to know that athletic dollars are year to year. do coaches lie? i am sure some do and i am sure some don't. ask the parents of a current player that is not the team stud. they will tell you the truth

--money offered for academics-assuming he maintains gpa of xxx, he will get this amount in academic dollars. note, these academic dollars are more valuable than athletic dollars, not necessarily in terms of percentage, but in terms of the annual renewal. 3.0 in college gpa each year and the academic dollars renew...some schools had no academic dollars for which my kid would qualify

--alumni network--it just means that potentially, you will be more likely to land a job after graduation based upon a strong alumni network, that is the theory anyway

--financial aid- we didn't spend any time on this because my fam can't qualify for aid, while that in and of itself sucks, it means we are lucky in the big picture

I hope this helps someone...

This board can be informative and helpful. The fact that someone took the time to write and then share this is indicative of what this sport once was, not what it has become. Thanks again for sharing.

He has no hair. Genetics I guess

stay crazy my friends, stay crazy. BTW if you want to see stone cold crazy talk take a peek at the 2025 thread. Its like its their first day on here.

2025 ..they diaper change at half time?

That's because it's the same coach involved in that year and those parents WANT to be crazy!

The little guy is no way near the other coach. That guy really screams and has meltdowns. He is an embarrassment to his team and the organization.

Which Legacy team is that ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which Legacy team is that ?

And where did he coach in the past?

He told us he wrestled in high school. But never played lacrosse. He tought himself all about lacrosse while coaching Islip PAL lacrosse. Thank God we pay $2000 a year to have him around .

He told us he wrestled in high school. And that he never played lacrosse. He taught himself the game by coaching PAL for Islip. Thank God we paid over $2000 a year for this guy .

He is the assistant with 2025 2023 and 2020b. He has a kid on each team and all of them would be in trouble without him favoring them

Coach Fran is a loud trouble maker who never shuts up

I found out his old Islip pal team was in a tournament this weekend at mount Saini and wouldn't let him coach because he is so disliked and the kids are sick of him playing favorites

I bet that is why the Islip kids all left legacy 2025. To get away from this jerk. They may be the smart ones.

More and more parents getting fed up the politics and star system looking elsewhere to play, pulling their kids out of the 34 program because some kids tryout, while some make a phone call, some have to commit to only one team while others are free to play for as many as they want, delusional parents who enable their sons convincing him he is a superstar (since grade 4) then said parents become apoplectic when junior doesn't make the middle school A team even though he has been on the town travel A team for years. Demanding the better kids be penalized for not playing for the town - "It's Not Fair!!", people thinking that their kids are entitled special treatment regardless of current ability...I can continue...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...

How is it broken? Just curious.

My son played for Coach Fran on a Legacy team for two years. He is a passionate coach who loves his players. I was under the impression that he played lacrosse at the DIII level in college but that really doesn't matter. My son loved him and I thought that he was fair. He coaches 3 teams because it is expensive to have 3 boys playing travel lacrosse. It is a big commitment and he should be commended for it. It looks like sour grapes from here because he cut your sons playing time. This is travel lacrosse. If you don't perform you don't play so much. Tell your son to work harder and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings.

From what I've heard they tried to lock the kids up so they didnt play outside in the summer. Required some commitment from every kid that it would be their priority club. If you agree to it and dont live up to that commitment, then you should be penalized - personally, dont see the big deal there. You dont want to commmit, go play somewhere else. Sounds like the bigger problem is the same as with some other travel clubs - the few parents who think their kids should be treated differently and held to different standards because in their opinion they are better than all the others. They think their kid should be out there every play, and only their kid or a few select others should be allowed to handle the ball or take shots, usually to the detriment of everyone else on the team. The GC program is relatively new, so its tough to say their youth system is broken since there really never was one before. Sounds like they're still figuring it out.

If everyone is playing by the same ground rules then it is fine. They were not. The biggest beneficiary of this mess will be Chaminade and the rest of the Nassau public schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what I've heard they tried to lock the kids up so they didnt play outside in the summer. Required some commitment from every kid that it would be their priority club. If you agree to it and dont live up to that commitment, then you should be penalized - personally, dont see the big deal there. You dont want to commmit, go play somewhere else. Sounds like the bigger problem is the same as with some other travel clubs - the few parents who think their kids should be treated differently and held to different standards because in their opinion they are better than all the others. They think their kid should be out there every play, and only their kid or a few select others should be allowed to handle the ball or take shots, usually to the detriment of everyone else on the team. The GC program is relatively new, so its tough to say their youth system is broken since there really never was one before. Sounds like they're still figuring it out.

What mess? I don't follow that logic... Chaminade?

Bluefish A had a good day as well, faced 2 tough teams but still put a fight up as it was their first time playing together. looks like a very well ran and organized team that will be very competitive in the summer. a lot of talent on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish A had a good day as well, faced 2 tough teams but still put a fight up as it was their first time playing together. looks like a very well ran and organized team that will be very competitive in the summer. a lot of talent on the team

Good to hear! Some real nice kids on that team.

As a parent whose son played for Fran how would I see him kiss the directors [lacrosse]? I never saw any of them at a tournament. The boy who played with us was a solid player and one of the best at his position. By making all this noise on an anonymous website what are you teaching your son? To complain when things don't go his way? Tell him to work harder and be the best player that he can be. If he does that no coach can hold him back! Also his boy is one of ten on the field. That leaves nine other spots for your kid. Tell him to go earn one of them.

He is mentally unstable. I have seen him loose it on more then one occasion whenever his son gets touched or our legacy team falls behind. He is a poor role model and shouldn't be around kids. According to this he knows nothing about lacrosse. Over the past three years I have seen nothing to change my opinion. Legacy should cut their looses and get rid of him.

I have to agree with the other post. Why are we paying so much and getting this self serving unknowledgeable weak at best coach who takes over every practice we have.

The directors are at the tournaments. Smarty and I see him kiss [lacrosse] all the time.

Mentally unstable? Who the [lacrosse] are you calling mentally unstable?
You are talking about little "kids" playing a frigin laxrosse game and a dad putting in time with a bunch of amazing kids! You frigin coward piece of crap!
He coaches my 8 year old and is an amazing person! Just because you have a personal issue with someone don't come on here and make up lies! Jealousy is a very sad thing but we are dealing with children and an amazing family!

LOL. What a complete joke of a post. Could not be farther from the truth. Bunch of anonymous cowards and losers on this site.

Many options out there. Just choose a different club and go far away.

Or maybe you are already gone and just stirring things up. Either way you need to look at yourself in the mirror everyday. S bag.

Teach your boy to work harder.

Putting the guys whole name up anonymously is a cowardly [lacrosse] move. Grow a pair and post YOUR name! The little guy may slap you up in front of your kid and rightfully so! [lacrosse]

No actually I am talking about a little snake coach who stole playing time from my kid and paraded his on the field 2weeks ago. He has done this too long with no one even seeing it happen. Now I am bringing the attention to it that it should get. A player shouldn't get taken care of because he is an assistant coaches kid who only does this to get his kid ahead. His behavior on the field have been awful. Fran is not a good role model for young kids.

Yeah seriously guys, take any issues you have with him offline. there are kids involved here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah seriously guys, take any issues you have with him offline. there are kids involved here.

This is beyond ugly now. Speak with the other team parents and approach the club director.

Listen to yourself ! Stole playing time from my kid, his kid plays more than my kid so now I'm going to call him unstable and a bad person and then I will post his name so everyone knows who he is! Grow up this is frigin little boy 8yh grade lacrosse! What are you teaching your kid ? Do you think this will blow his college scholarship ? You need to go away and look at the real problems in this world it's just a game and believe me at the high school level if your kid even makes it that far at this rate you will not even be able to communicate with the coach about playing time ! Enjoy your son and his game that he enjoys to play and stop bashing'

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen to yourself ! Stole playing time from my kid, his kid plays more than my kid so now I'm going to call him unstable and a bad person and then I will post his name so everyone knows who he is! Grow up this is frigin little boy 8yh grade lacrosse! What are you teaching your kid ? Do you think this will blow his college scholarship ? You need to go away and look at the real problems in this world it's just a game and believe me at the high school level if your kid even makes it that far at this rate you will not even be able to communicate with the coach about playing time ! Enjoy your son and his game that he enjoys to play and stop bashing'

I have said this time and time again. This is not just a game for kids - It is a business.

You lose the "its just a game" when parents are paying thousands of dollars. As far as blowing up a site with these comments. Some people know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away and when to run. These days people know when to blog'em on sites like this.

If you are feeling crossed enough to blog away Id say run. It is tough having or being on a 2nd team behind a good team. What I don't get isnt there other coaches. If its that the Ravage team, I thought they were a good team coached by East Islip guys who have sons on the team. I doubt they would let that happen. or did they finally let them on Team Taz.

Lets not rush to judgment on either side but when there is smoke there is fire.

I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...

Love reading the dysfunction that is STRONG ISLAND.

Ravage

Originally Posted by anonomous

I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...

Only kids...adults are fair game.

Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mentally unstable? Who the [lacrosse] are you calling mentally unstable?
You are talking about little "kids" playing a frigin laxrosse game and a dad putting in time with a bunch of amazing kids! You frigin coward piece of crap!
He coaches my 8 year old and is an amazing person! Just because you have a personal issue with someone don't come on here and make up lies! Jealousy is a very sad thing but we are dealing with children and an amazing family!

I'd call this mentally unstable...LOL

Originally Posted by anonomous

I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...

I don't care if you guys bash each other, coaches, parents, trainers.. You are so called adults and can defend yourselves.. just leave the kids out of it.

Don Mattingly sucks.

Who put this all together????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.

Potvin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Potvin

Potvin sucks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.

That is quite a bit of talent. Wouldn't be surprised if a college coach or two takes a look.

Well done to these teams for coordinating.

10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020

So What! 1 1/2 good teams in this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

Know its 2020 thread but any word on 2021 games?

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020

Hah, right, let's talk about only 2 teams. Great thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020

what tournament?

Eligibility Rules - United States Teams
1.All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002.
2.All players must be in the Class of 2021 or later.
3.All players must compete with their team on a regular basis. Players can not be added only to participate in the World Series.
4.No player may compete, or be rostered, on more than one team during the tournament.
5.All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program.
6.All teams must carry between 18-24 players.
7.All players will be required to provide a copy of their birth certificate, proof of residency (report card or school identification card) and verification of health insurance that is accepted in the United States.
8.All players must participate with their team/program on a regular basis. Players are not to be added only for the World Series.
9.Any team in violation of the above roster rules will forfeit all games in which the ineligible player has participated, forfeit any opportunity to advance to the playoffs and forfeit any accolades or titles received by the team.

Eligibility Rules - Canadian Teams
1.All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002.
2.No player may compete, or be rostered, on more than one team during the tournament.
3.All players must reside within 200 miles of the home field of their program.
These are the rules for the World Series of lacrosse please for future reference note that teams from Canada because of our education system have very different circumstances than in America. This has not only been identified by the folks who run the world series but also by adrenaline lacrosse. So when our boy tell your boys they are in what appears to be a grade later they are in fact still the same age. I can't believe the commentary and criticism we recvd this summer at both the Crabs YG event but also the NSCLA event in Hershey.

Why no Crush?? Afraid of Looney's??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.

I know its early but is there a chance there will be college coaches there?

This is not a Looney parent talking but someone stirring the pot. Because as a looney parent until someone in 2020 beats Crush they are exempt from that talk. We thought we had them once but they are by far the head of the 2020 class til proven otherwise Much respect from Maryland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is not a Looney parent talking but someone stirring the pot. Because as a looney parent until someone in 2020 beats Crush they are exempt from that talk. We thought we had them once but they are by far the head of the 2020 class til proven otherwise Much respect from Maryland

In the next two years the top teams from DMV, Pa and MA will all beat Crush. That weird thing will happen where those teams will become soooo much better, stronger and faster... Hmmmm, How come the LI kids don't grow like that??? Oh wait, maybe it has something thing to do with the 2019's and 2018's that will be playing 2020. Nah, those other teams will just "catch up". I love that one.... Too funny.

Interesting that crabs is nowhere to be seen in this play date. Afraid me thinks - or maybe his 2020s have drivers ed, have to work or are taking the SAT that weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting that crabs is nowhere to be seen in this play date. Afraid me thinks - or maybe his 2020s have drivers ed, have to work or are taking the SAT that weekend.

There's that or maybe the other teams are just tired of dealing with the Crab's blatant lack of respect for sportsmanship and their attitude that it is okay to do anything to win.

In response to your post regarding the Legacy coach, your information is completely inaccurate. (In addition, your grammar is deplorable!) This coach played lacrosse in high school, played lacrosse in college on an athletic scholarship for lacrosse, and continues to play as an adult today. It is a shame you felt the need to hide behind the "anonymous" label but felt it appropriate to post another person's name. This action speaks more to your character than his. I will proudly sign my name to this post, Erik Lopez

Not sure what I missed but this post is absolutely ridiculous. The coach is one of the most knowledgable people that I have been around regarding lacrosse and more so coaching kids in my 20 plus years around the game.Any kid that has ever played for him smiles every time they hear his booming voice because they know how he is and he is smiling under the beard. The guy loves kids and knows how to motivate them. My son loves the guy and athe coach treats him like his own kid. My son told us if we ever moved he wants to go to islip so he can play for him all the time.For now we gladly drive more than an hour each practice to play for him and 3 other great coaches. John Cuozzo

The roster size says it all

Thanks John and Erik!

The check is in the mail,

Love Coach

No problem. Sorry your kids are not playing with us anymore. I figured you would take a higher road then attack a good guy like you chose to do. Especially since I honestly thought your son was related to him by the way he and the rest of the coaching staff treated him. I realize now it wasn't just my kid or yours,that they treated every kid the same way. I am guessing you are realizing now that you are playing elsewhere. John

How did 2020 teams do at Blatant yesterday?

How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.

North won it. Leghart went 1-2.

Express North beat Manhasset in the final 7-6

A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.

North won it. Leghart went 1-2.

Was that the same north that was bea1 19-0 by Legacy? Outlaws went 0-3?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.

North won it. Leghart went 1-2.

Was that the same north that was bea1 19-0 by Legacy? Outlaws went 0-3?

Not the same team. Legacy beat the B team.

No different team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?

It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?

It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.

And this special select team lost to Express north?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?

It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.

And this special select team lost to Express north?

This special select team is a town team.

Manhasset was a really good team and very well coached. A lot of very talented players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset was a really good team and very well coached. A lot of very talented players.

I watched mist of that game. That Manhasset team was a good team. If they came within a goal of the express north team, they have nothing to be ashamed about. I dare to say that the express north team had several kids that looked as if they belonged in the 2019 age group.

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Are you saying North brought some ringers for the final game ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you saying North brought some ringers for the final game ?

Also interesting that the 6'2 middie had the same uniform number as the goalie for North

No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.

Not at all just stating a few facts from people who played them earlier in the day. If your part of Express North than you know the facts. Either way great game and welcome the competition. Merely a response to the moron who was stating " a select team " lost to Express North.

Stop crying about losing. You are embarrassing yourself with the excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."

Whose crying Dbag ? You didn't read the post ? It was all I response to moron who posed that a select team that lost to Express North. It was great one point game played by both teams. Period !!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."

The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)

Thanks coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."

The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)

No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.

I have an idea. Before anyone posts anything on here you should read the Team Sean link and realize what is important in life. If after reading you still feel the need to post then have at it. But at least take the time to think about it.

Do we expect any less from Manhasset daddies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."

The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)

No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.

Exactly!

I was on the sideline for two of the games and the Manhasset parents were totally fine. A good day of lacrosse that unfortunately gets tainted by this back and forth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.

I forgot that catholic high schools play on Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.

I forgot that catholic high schools play on Sunday

I don't understand the controversy regarding the Manhasset team, the tourney or the Express North team. It was a great day of lax, very competitive games across the 2020 North division and a great final game. There wasn't any arguing on the sidelines, no cheap hits or obnoxious coaching and the score was close. Plus we got to stay home for the weekend.

Completely agree! A very competative bracket and some great lacrosse was played. It was an exciting championship game and all of the boys worked very hard. It could have easily gone either way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.

Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."

The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)

No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.

Exactly!

Good point, the two players from PW were excellent additions and there were likely many other 8th graders from Manhasset available but weren't invited to play as this team isn't affiliated with PAL or the Manhasset32 club. Stay classy everyone.

why does everyone care so much when people do this? I don't get it.

The one disappointment yesterday was hearing the LI Express head coach (not North) berating his players with the f-word and telling all the middies they "suck"! Not a great way to motivate players, let alone kids!

When people do what??

put a team together to play in a tournament, have you been reading?

I wish my town had enough talent to beat a handful of travel teams Not to mention a few dads who are knowledgeable enough to be good coaches, but willing to donate the time it takes to get to that level. Hats off to the boys from manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish my town had enough talent to beat a handful of travel teams Not to mention a few dads who are knowledgeable enough to be good coaches, but willing to donate the time it takes to get to that level. Hats off to the boys from manhasset

You forgot to thank the boys from Port, and who knows where else. Please, they lost! And it was a B level tourney to boot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a team together to play in a tournament, have you been reading?

It doesn't say this team was put together for this tournament. Looks like boys played on 32 together and now play on Set 2020. Apparently both out of Manhasset.

just looked at the scores of the 2020 north on tourney machine, all games ended within 4 or so goals. I don't care who was playing, that looks like a great day of lacrosse.

Coach Fran is a passionate and dedicated coach. The boys like him and we have never seen him be unfair to any player. Stop being a coward on an anonymous website. Teach your son to work harder so YOU dont have to complain online.

If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.

I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?

You heard correctly. He is not a good role model.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?

It's the catholic school way i guess

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.

Little Johnny doesn�t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

Is it an issue that pick up teams play local tournaments?

That is a great question, some may say these tournaments are B tournaments for B teams. Others may say why not get a group of boys who don't necessarily play travel together get together and play.

I love the aspect another group just put out a tournament series for B teams. This tells those "pick up" teams this isn't for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.

Little Johnny doesn�t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

HAHAHA Just TRY and contain the jealousy, just try

Manhasset has no rivals!

Watched last 2 games of tournament . Not sure if it was this group .Was impressed by Manhassett against Express . One kid from Manahasset was lights out. There plenty of balls on the end line and a kid feeding them in that helped Manahasset get an shot or 2 in before game expired . Refs were in place and make good calls from what I saw. watched other Express play Team 38? In last game. That Express coach was a little over the line for me. Was very critical of a few of his players at the end and probably caused them to shut down at the end.

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.

Little Johnny doesn�t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

HAHAHA Just TRY and contain the jealousy, just try

Jealousy of a loser?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.

Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

If that were the case Rising sons def couldn't play. Average age 16

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

Everyone knows about crabs, now crush has holdbacks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.

LOL. You can keep saying that, but college recruiters are all over the talent on the Crabs 2020 team. They will be dominant this year.

You can't hate them or hate losing to them, but saying "nobody cares about them" shows your ignorance.

Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!

I'm from CSH, a Manhasset rival, and I like just about every parent and kid I've met from there. Haters hate...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!

May I suggest decaf for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse

Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?

Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.

LOL. You can keep saying that, but college recruiters are all over the talent on the Crabs 2020 team. They will be dominant this year.

Why aren't they at the Hill this weekend

You can't hate them or hate losing to them, but saying "nobody cares about them" shows your ignorance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Whew, I guess that settles it and makes it ok.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Whew, I guess that settles it and makes it ok.

It does make it OK. No one is breaking rules. You just don't agree with the rules.

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

why does everyone hate them equate to not having rivals? Don't the red sox hate their biggest rival, Cardinals hate their biggest rival..so on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

Comparing college players to high schoolers and middle schoolers? Funny post, well done!

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but
no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change. [/quote]

Horrible analogy, is freshman plays against senior it's because he is good enough to do so! However, 15 or 16 years olds playing against 14 year olds in clubs lax is not! These teams are not school teams and shouldn't be treated as they are!

Playing up is not an issue, however playing down is and it kills the spirit of competition!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.

Why is it so important for you to compare your 13 year old to someone else's kid? You should be focused on whether your kid is getting better and having a positive experience.

What are holdbacks cheating at? Not college recruiting. The reality is by word or deed the d1 college coaches have endorsed holding boys back and know the boys are older. Bottom line, the coaches and the NCAA set the rules for recruiting and holdbacks are encouraged.

Are holdbacks cheating at youth lacrosse? That answer is subjective given no firm age requirements. If your son is really D1 material if held back it would seem like you should have the decency to play him with his age group/normal grade until he hits high school. The better competition would do him good.

A summer birthday who is average and wants to play with his friends in his grade? I really don't have a problem with that.

Originally club lacrosse was a way to improve for your high school team and maybe to get recruited for college. The emphasis was supposed to be on improving the players with a secondary interest in winning. In that model, players play up rather than down because they are focused on getting better.

The focus now is on the glory and economic benefit of the club. Players will now play with younger kids to the detriment of their own development so that the club can win and the club's parents can claim they have the best 8th grade lacrosse team in their city, state, nation etc.

I haven't and won't holdback my kids because it wouldn't be academically appropriate but I don't have a problem with parents who would make that decision. I only hope that they would insist on playing their son at his normal grade for his benefit rather than let a club director push their son down so the club director can claim more victories.

Youth Sports should not be based on what college D 1 coaches are looking for.

Youth sports are for kids to learn how to compete, work with teammates, win with dignity, and lose with respect. Kids playing club lacrosse at the youth levels, elementary school and middle school should not be playing against older kids.

This whole graduation year based team format should have never come around for youth sports, middle school, or even high school age kids. If college coaches want to come and recruit they can go to any one of the high school teams and start looking at players just as a duo and many other sports

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.

Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.

I guess I should have been more clear - I wasn't looking for opinions on whether or not anyone thinks it has been beaten to death (although it has - look through any thread on this forum). Again, until the official rules actually change, you play grade based and get what you get, and your kids get more skilled because they are playing older boys. I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but
no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.

Horrible analogy, is freshman plays against senior it's because he is good enough to do so! However, 15 or 16 years olds playing against 14 year olds in clubs lax is not! These teams are not school teams and shouldn't be treated as they are!

Playing up is not an issue, however playing down is and it kills the spirit of competition![/quote]

OK - so let's go with that logic. Good size 14 year old playing against average sized 15 or 16 year old - definitely a maturity and physical difference, for certain. But, a 15 year old freshman playing with an 18 year old senior - no difference there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.

How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.

How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.

Wow! Lawyers and insurance companies? Lobbying? For what? To change to outcome of some tournament and who gets the T-shirt. It won't change anything with recruiting because that particular holdback will still be graduating and moving on to college in the year he is in school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.

How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.

Wow! Lawyers and insurance companies? Lobbying? For what? To change to outcome of some tournament and who gets the T-shirt. It won't change anything with recruiting because that particular holdback will still be graduating and moving on to college in the year he is in school.

If these tournaments don't get insured things will change.

What fall tournaments is Crush 2020 playing in? Thanks.

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

Come on here we go. The best player in 2020 DOB is Spring 2002. No NY team should have a best player in 2020 should be a 2001 player. Go ahead tell me 12/2001 is legit (yeah it is). Don't tell me 9/10/11 if so he is a holdback. Go ahead tell me he may be from Ct, read up on what Ct is doing about those hold backs.

You opened the can of worms... what is the DOB of this fictional player, no need for date how about the month!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What fall tournaments is Crush 2020 playing in? Thanks.

Only one I know of is they were invited to play in Terp classic a 2019 event run by University of Maryland Other than that I am not sure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.

Just because LI does school that way?? You do realize that 90% of the country bases starting school on your age on 9/1? Maybe LI should get with the times and stop bitching about the fall birthday kids in MD.

Not true if born after 12/6/2201 you are a legit 8th grader. Anyone born before that cut off date is a hold back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.

This isn't hard. The educational cut-off in New [lacrosse] State is 12/1. If you are born before that date you should be in 9th grade right now. And if you are in 9th grade you should be on the 2019 team, not 2020.

School year is Dec 1st
Thererfore a child born in Dec 2001 is completerly legit! Is for football & soccer too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.

Yeah and don't be misled into thinking only MD, etc. put holdbacks on their teams. Express, fl$, Legacy all have plenty of kids who should be in 9th grade right now. There is a reason the LI club owners aren't screaming about the unfairness of holdbacks: they don't have clean hands themselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!

June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.

Yeah and don't be misled into thinking only MD, etc. put holdbacks on their teams. Express, fl$, Legacy all have plenty of kids who should be in 9th grade right now. There is a reason the LI club owners aren't screaming about the unfairness of holdbacks: they don't have clean hands themselves.

First you need to define holdback. If it's someone repeating 8th grade, I believe Express and Legacy have one. Don't believe any on fl$.

If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.

If he's not a hold back, what is he? A weasel, a cheating loser, a mediocre kid trying a last ditch effort to use smoke and mirrors to look better than he really is? Whatever it is its pathetic!

It's safe to conclude that USL is a toothless organization with no true intention of addressing the holdback epidemic. Quite simply, anything they perceive to restrict the growth of the sport, will not be touched. Sad, but true. In the meantime, one thing that can be done, is for teams to list the birth month and year for their players. Obviously no names, just, for example: 2 boys 8/01, 4 boys 10/01, etc. Clearly there will be teams that are willing, though most probably not. But at least we can call them out on it.

Pretty funny how you guys spend hours agonizing about reclassed kids. Pretty sure your alma mater has reclassed kids on their football and basketball teams, and it didn't bother you then.

Keep crying. Meanwhile, our kids will keep committing to D1 programs. LOL.

Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Holding back for lacrosse don't get it, basketball/football absolutely and it is the norm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.

DeMatha?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Thank you, and no, you are not missing something. We are generally good people who respect the game and our competition. The fact that we put a good product on the field garners a certain level of jealousy, which is frequently accompanied by negative commentary and accusations. Thank you for your kind words; an unfortunately rare occurrence on this site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.

Only holds true for ny who still use 12/1 as a school cut off. The majority of states switched to 9/1 many years ago so fall birthdays elsewhere are not holdbacks and ny is noto the norm and can not expect policy to be set based on their dates. That is why aged based guidelines use 8/31 as a cut off. If you are going to play outside of your state you can not shout foul.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.

Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Also:

1. Do you know how few college kids make it to the NBA or NFL? Those reclassed college kids at your alma mater are not playing professionally.

2. Love your carport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.

Douchy response by Mr Crab for sure, But are you saying it's ok to "game the system" as long as you end up with lucrative pro sports career?

Not saying it's OK. I think it is wrong. However, at least I get the point that there is potentially a lucrative career at the end of the rainbow. There is no pot of gold for lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

Thank you, and no, you are not missing something. We are generally good people who respect the game and our competition. The fact that we put a good product on the field garners a certain level of jealousy, which is frequently accompanied by negative commentary and accusations. Thank you for your kind words; an unfortunately rare occurrence on this site.

Others may disagree that you "respect the game" by stacking a team with club team players, holdbacks and kids from other towns and then trying to pass it off as just an ordinary PAL team. That "good product" was fairly dishonest and yet you cannot help congratulating yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not saying it's OK. I think it is wrong. However, at least I get the point that there is potentially a lucrative career at the end of the rainbow. There is no pot of gold for lacrosse.

pro nfl nba careers are a pipe dream even for most top high schoolers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.

'20 Towns in nassau
1. Manhasset
2. CSH
Big Drop
3. Port Washington
4. GC
Big Drop
5. Long Beach/Massapequ/Farmingdale

Suffolk
1. Islip
2. Smithtown (though they will drop as its 2 highschools combined for one town team right now)
3. Three Village/Ward Melville
4. Huntington
5. West Islip

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Agree with Nassau, though I thought CSH was better when we played them. Got to have SWR in the suffolk conversation though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.

My son doesn't play for the Crabs, buddy. As you said, the Crabs have reclassed kids, as do many clubs. My point is that anytime a team has some big kids, LI dads start complaining about reclassification.

Get over it. You may not like it, but they've decided to go grade based with youth teams and it's not going to go back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty funny how you guys spend hours agonizing about reclassed kids. Pretty sure your alma mater has reclassed kids on their football and basketball teams, and it didn't bother you then.

Keep crying. Meanwhile, our kids will keep committing to D1 programs. LOL.

kids playing up or down in High isn't the issue, it has been done since sports were introduced into high school. Kids playing down on youth teams is the issue. Leave all the reclass stuff in high school.

I would guess that almost half of the private school kids that play lacrosse for the elite club teams in the Baltimore and DC area are holdbacks. Probably 30% to 50% of the rosters for teams like the Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son doesn't play for the Crabs, buddy. As you said, the Crabs have reclassed kids, as do many clubs. My point is that anytime a team has some big kids, LI dads start complaining about reclassification.

Get over it. You may not like it, but they've decided to go grade based with youth teams and it's not going to go back.

It's not just LI parents complaining about reclass kids. It's VA, DC, MD parents as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

'20 Towns in nassau
1. Manhasset
2. CSH
Big Drop
3. Port Washington
4. GC
Big Drop
5. Long Beach/Massapequ/Farmingdale

Suffolk
1. Islip
2. Smithtown (though they will drop as its 2 highschools combined for one town team right now)
3. Three Village/Ward Melville
4. Huntington
5. West Islip

Islip? You on drugs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.

I also heard that people from Garden City and Cold Spring Harbour are nice and good at lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.

I also heard that people from Garden City and Cold Spring Harbour are nice and good at lacrosse.

Two great towns with quality parents and kids. Love playing against them because there's never drama on the field or sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset has no rivals!

Because everyone hates them.

why does everyone hate them?

Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!

I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?

On a whole, very smart, wealthy people in that town. They are extremely adept at giving you a great impression. You'll never see their true thoughts or feelings on anything, way too polished to allow that to happen. Trust me, they'll have you figured out 9 ways to Tuesday inside of a 5 minute conversation. You on the other hand will walk away saying "what nice people". Have you ever heard the expression? "Pulling the wool over your eyes"... Garden City folks cut from the same cloth, Cold Spring similar, but to a lesser degree. I know that sounds cold, but to a great extent, I think it's on point.

Looneys schedule is weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.

It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!

You are an idiot. When your son is in HS and you (not him) finally grows up, you'll realize that it's about getting better and having fun. Nobody cares who wins these games. It's fun to win, but that's not the point, Dad.

I think their playing Sons next week so i'm sure thats why their not playing them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys schedule is weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!

And don't forget the team who goes undefeated will be blasted for having more hold backs then the other teams in this forum for about 2 months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Do you want some cheese with that wine?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!

And don't forget the team who goes undefeated will be blasted for having more hold backs then the other teams in this forum for about 2 months.

beach lax still gets brought up from time to time...so longer than 2 months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good

Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.

The kids do not feel the need to cheat - the parents do! The kids do not make the decision to pay for another year of private schooling at $15,000 to $30,000. This is all about parent ego's. Little Johnny plays for Boys Latin or Georgetown Prep. Little Johnny is going to play D1! I cannot wait to tell everyone at the country club on Sunday that little Johnny is a stud among his peers. Thank god not everyone can afford to reclassify! I hope it was worth it!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good

Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.

No one is crying- they are just pointing out that some kids need to play with younger kids and some can play with proper age and some will play with older kids. It's very much like academics- the brightest and best take AP, the solid kids work hard and stay the course, most often end on a solid successful path, and the strugglers are left back so they too can meet with success on their new level. No difference really at all. True talent doesn't need to play down, it's the need to pretend, work the system and ego that drives a parent to alter their kids ACADEMIC path to meet success in lacrosse. In the end maybe the kid is successful and gets into a better school, but can they compete academically? Will they ride the bench when their younger counterparts catch up in strength , speed and height? Quite a gamble and it will only pay off for some. Just remember, the holdback may get to a DI but many of their peers did so without having to do so. Maybe it's not cheating according to the lack of rules, but it is sad and desperate to feel the need to do so, especially considering there is little pay off, in the end. I hope those holdbacks are strong enough not to get beat by their younger, possibly smaller counterparts- it'll make them look far worse than if they stayed with their peers and got beat. Lots of unneeded pressure placed on a kid for no pot of gold at the end. Sad state of affairs... Talent doesn't need to play down.

The fact is that there WILL be 14-16 year olds playing against 13 year olds this weekend. My concern over holdbacks is not an excuse for when my team loses to a bunch of post-pubescent young men. I could care less who wins some meaningless game the day after Halloween. I do care that my son and his team teammates are not severely injured by a kid who actually should be playing on a 2019 or 18 team. Reclassification may not be breaking the rules - BUT - it certainly is lacking in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.

Personally, I really do believe that they majority of "top" teams have PLENTY of kids that have birthdays before 9/1. And in my mind, if you have a birthday before 9/1 you are a hold back. It doesn't matter if you have been held back before K or during Junior High, you are still a hold back. The point is, at this age the advantage does go to the older kids. We won't know for a few years if they are actually better, or if they look like a stud now because they are older. My son plays on a top team and it is loaded with "hold backs" most started school late, only a few have repeated 8th, but they are all the same. For 2020s you should be born after 8/31/01. If you are born before that, you are a hold back

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.

Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good

Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.

No one is crying- they are just pointing out that some kids need to play with younger kids and some can play with proper age and some will play with older kids. It's very much like academics- the brightest and best take AP, the solid kids work hard and stay the course, most often end on a solid successful path, and the strugglers are left back so they too can meet with success on their new level. No difference really at all. True talent doesn't need to play down, it's the need to pretend, work the system and ego that drives a parent to alter their kids ACADEMIC path to meet success in lacrosse. In the end maybe the kid is successful and gets into a better school, but can they compete academically? Will they ride the bench when their younger counterparts catch up in strength , speed and height? Quite a gamble and it will only pay off for some. Just remember, the holdback may get to a DI but many of their peers did so without having to do so. Maybe it's not cheating according to the lack of rules, but it is sad and desperate to feel the need to do so, especially considering there is little pay off, in the end. I hope those holdbacks are strong enough not to get beat by their younger, possibly smaller counterparts- it'll make them look far worse than if they stayed with their peers and got beat. Lots of unneeded pressure placed on a kid for no pot of gold at the end. Sad state of affairs... Talent doesn't need to play down.

Desperate is right! Seen some older kids cry like little babies when they get smoked by by legit age kids. I want to say I feel bad for the kid a little but superglad to see the upset parent try to comfort their son who is now just know a cheating loser that they created! Keep cheating, we'll keep laughing! Not worried about this for my son, just shake my head in disgust that parent would stoop so low. This is why people from other countries hate Americans. This exact type of cheating behavior in all aspects of some people's lives. SAD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.

It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!

Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.

It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!

Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.

True, but everything counts. People will be looking for the stand out teams and players today. There will be lots of chatter later today about team performance, like it or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.

It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!

Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.

True, but everything counts. People will be looking for the stand out teams and players today. There will be lots of chatter later today about team performance, like it or not.

Never said there would not be chatter but your facts were wrong and there is a big difference between the two. Looneys and FCA were both scheduled at different venues this weekend and asked to come to this play day -all are great teams to be there but do not ruin it by making it more than it is. Play days are often better for the teams and the boys due to limited entry of teams of the same caliber and costs are lower. In the end, most of the boys just want to play high level lacrosse and the uber competitive parents are ruining it for them always wanting a winner and loser and as most know who are familiar with the recruiting it is not about who wins. Just let them play the game they love and stop making it about you and bragging rights.

Crabs will win the play day

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Must mean your son's team is loosing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Must mean your son's team is loosing.

No, he is not "loosing" anything today, but thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Sorry your son couldn't make any of the teams playing in the play day. If he keeps working hard and the opposite of what you say, he may have a chance someday, he is a good kid! His father is the reason he isn't on one of the top teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Why is it strange to want to see how the teams/players did today? After all these boys are entering their recruiting year, and this is a lacrosse forum. What's your problem?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

Pretty even playing field which was the objective. Legacy over Hawks, 91 MD over Sons, FCA over Express, Legacy over Mesa,Express over Sons, 91 MD over FCA

Express has taken two steps back this year .... GO MD !!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Why is it strange to want to see how the teams/players did today? After all these boys are entering their recruiting year, and this is a lacrosse forum. What's your problem?

Call me old fashioned, but 8th grade is not a recruiting year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow

The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.

Why is it strange to want to see how the teams/players did today? After all these boys are entering their recruiting year, and this is a lacrosse forum. What's your problem?

Call me old fashioned, but 8th grade is not a recruiting year.

You are stuck in a time warp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?

Looneys will beat all easily

So did they?

What were the scores?

They did

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What were the scores?

5-7, 6-2, 8-1, 9-8. There were others too.

Great day at the Hill. Here are the scores I collected (there was no board) and I was focused on 91 MD.

FCA MD 8
Express Terps 2

Express Terps 5
Sons 4

91 MD 6
Sons 4

91 MD 8
FCA MD 3

91 MD 6
Express 6

Looneys smashed the Hawks and Legacy, and pulled away from Mesa Fresh. Sorry, no other scores from me.

Looneys 14 Mesa 4

Sons 9 FCA 3

Looneys 9 Legacy 3

Legacy 2 and 1 on day

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

And how did the rest of the club do today? Oh wait...that's all there is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

How old are you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

In the amount of Holdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

looneys played 3 of 8 teams there- how did you sweep "all" ? Great performance and based on that performance you very well might have won against all of the teams but your attitude is why the team gets the bad rep it has.

How did the crabs do?

Who won battle of the bay today? I think it was sweet lax vs leading edge in finals.

How did the Hawks do in their other games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won battle of the bay today? I think it was sweet lax vs leading edge in finals.

Sweetlax won the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the crabs do?

won 2 games today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the crabs do?

2018s won the 2019 division at NLF - same as usual.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the crabs do?

2018s won the 2019 division at NLF - same as usual.

I guess that if you can't beat the Crabs, the only thing you can do is whine and cry with the same material.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the crabs do?

2018s won the 2019 division at NLF - same as usual.

I guess that if you can't beat the Crabs, the only thing you can do is whine and cry with the same material.

No one is crying you fool- they are making fun of them! When you dumb kids down to win tournaments to put on the site- that's desperate. Talent always plays up. Congrats to the Crabs! You did it! Everyone is so proud of them! Is that better?

How did Express do at Hill? Did they play the better teams? Looneys, Legacy etc?

Express is Awful ...

Sorry back at ya. They played bottom half of the comp. well oiled machine at D but have a few holes. The offense questionable. Attack average. Time will tell

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Told you Looneys would sweep all. Nobody close, sorry

And how did the rest of the club do today? Oh wait...that's all there is.

A couple of their teams went undefeated at McDonough today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry back at ya. They played bottom half of the comp. well oiled machine at D but have a few holes. The offense questionable. Attack average. Time will tell

There was no bottom half at this event. With the exception of Looneys who had a great day, the remainder of the teams were all about the same caliber with several of those noted as being in the "bottom" half beating several in the "top" half easily in the last 4-5 months. Any game could have been won by any team.

Talking about Looneys rt? Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express is Awful ...

How so- if as the previous poster noted, most teams were equal in talent and games could go either way- they lost one, won one and tied one. Not great, but not awful either. I'm not an Express parent, but that seems to be a bit exaggerated- no?

Looneys 14 , Hawks 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won battle of the bay today? I think it was sweet lax vs leading edge in finals.

SweetLax won 9-7 over LE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won battle of the bay today? I think it was sweet lax vs leading edge in finals.

SweetLax won 9-7 over LE.

How is the 3D Mid-Atlantic team this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry back at ya. They played bottom half of the comp. well oiled machine at D but have a few holes. The offense questionable. Attack average. Time will tell

Must be a looneys hater, they blew the teams they played out. How do they have questionable offense and and average attack? Just except the fact that they will probably be the top team in Maryland the season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry back at ya. They played bottom half of the comp. well oiled machine at D but have a few holes. The offense questionable. Attack average. Time will tell

Must be a looneys hater, they blew the teams they played out. How do they have questionable offense and and average attack? Just except the fact that they will probably be the top team in Maryland the season.

It's suppose to be fun. Some good teams in md. Crabs Looneys 91md Fca.

How'd Igloo play down in MD?

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did the crabs do?

2018s won the 2019 division at NLF - same as usual.

I guess that if you can't beat the Crabs, the only thing you can do is whine and cry with the same material.

Your club provides so much material it's simple to make fun of you all the time. Here's a solution, post the birthdates of all your players for each team, no names required. Or instead of having the graduation year on the shorts and jerseys, post their birth year. Of course if you're kids are older they're going to beat a team of younger kids. Hockey does calendar year, U.S. Soccer is moving to a calendar year system next year, and Crabs, while playing within the rules, promotes holding kids back to make them look better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Yes, the Looney's players did all look big. How does a team that went 1-2 look best?

This was a great day, nice venue, balanced competition, relaxed atmosphere and lots of friendly chatter on the sidelines. It was great to see the boys together on the sidelines watching the other games. Hats off to the Sons for organizing and I hope they do it again next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Agree with Looneys being the top team but FCA was not at top. Looneys and then probably 91 Maryland or Legacy looked the second best of the day but all the teams were well matched and a great day of high level 8th grade lacrosse. Too bad for 91 as they led Express by 2 or 3 the entire game and let up in last 3 minutes to tie. Looneys would most likely beat 91 at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How'd Igloo play down in MD?

They were not in the top 4.
Seeds after Saturday were 1- Sweetlax, 2- Leading Edge, 3- Texas Mustangs, 4- MadLax

Did Crabs play this weekend?

A very nice day. Much parent discussion and cheers to both teams playing!
The way it should be!!

Is the sweet lax team out of Rochester and Leading Edge Jersey?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the sweet lax team out of Rochester and Leading Edge Jersey?

Yes to both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Yes, the Looney's players did all look big. How does a team that went 1-2 look best?

This was a great day, nice venue, balanced competition, relaxed atmosphere and lots of friendly chatter on the sidelines. It was great to see the boys together on the sidelines watching the other games. Hats off to the Sons for organizing and I hope they do it again next year.

who went 1-2? Who did FCA play in their last game and what was score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Agree with Looneys being the top team but FCA was not at top. Looneys and then probably 91 Maryland or Legacy looked the second best of the day but all the teams were well matched and a great day of high level 8th grade lacrosse. Too bad for 91 as they led Express by 2 or 3 the entire game and let up in last 3 minutes to tie. Looneys would most likely beat 91 at this point.

Legacy got crushed by Looney's, how could they possibly be in the conversation?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Agree with Looneys being the top team but FCA was not at top. Looneys and then probably 91 Maryland or Legacy looked the second best of the day but all the teams were well matched and a great day of high level 8th grade lacrosse. Too bad for 91 as they led Express by 2 or 3 the entire game and let up in last 3 minutes to tie. Looneys would most likely beat 91 at this point.

There's only one score that counts in a game and that's the final score, how you get there doesn't matter.

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Must be a legacy dad. Legacy tied Sons two weeks ago and was dismantled by Loonies yesterday, until they beat a quality team, they are middle of the pack.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Legacy over terps in pecking order?
Need to go head to head

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Yes, the Looney's players did all look big. How does a team that went 1-2 look best?

This was a great day, nice venue, balanced competition, relaxed atmosphere and lots of friendly chatter on the sidelines. It was great to see the boys together on the sidelines watching the other games. Hats off to the Sons for organizing and I hope they do it again next year.

who went 1-2? Who did FCA play in their last game and what was score?

FCA lost to 91 MD and Sons.

Lost to Sons 9-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Yes, the Looney's players did all look big. How does a team that went 1-2 look best?

This was a great day, nice venue, balanced competition, relaxed atmosphere and lots of friendly chatter on the sidelines. It was great to see the boys together on the sidelines watching the other games. Hats off to the Sons for organizing and I hope they do it again next year.

who went 1-2? Who did FCA play in their last game and what was score?

FCA lost to 91 MD and Sons.

What was the score of the Sons game? That's surprising as Express was up 5-2 with less than 10 mins left and then Sons scored 2 goals to close within 1 goal, but FCA took Express to school

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Legacy over terps in pecking order?
Need to go head to head

Looking at results and scores on TourneyMachine, I think the pecking order from this weekend in Pottstown looks like:

Looneys
Team 91 MD
FCA
Legacy
LIE
Sons
Hawks
Mesa Fresh

From Annapolis, MD games:

SweetLax
Leading Edge
Texas Mustangs
Madlax
Igloo
Koopers
Dukes
Next Level

*Crabs played only Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Legacy over terps in pecking order?
Need to go head to head

Looking at results and scores on TourneyMachine, I think the pecking order from this weekend in Pottstown looks like:

Looneys
Team 91 MD
FCA
Legacy
LIE
Sons
Hawks
Mesa Fresh

From Annapolis, MD games:

SweetLax
Leading Edge
Texas Mustangs
Madlax
Igloo
Koopers
Dukes
Next Level

*Crabs played only Sunday

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

Looney's showing the best down there doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone, does it? They are and have been very good. (LI parent...)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's showing the best down there doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone, does it? They are and have been very good. (LI parent...)

Noticed that FCA had a number of players with Calvert Hall and Loyola Blakefield helmets. How is that possible? Thought those were high schools? Do they have middle school teams as well?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's showing the best down there doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone, does it? They are and have been very good. (LI parent...)

Noticed that FCA had a number of players with Calvert Hall and Loyola Blakefield helmets. How is that possible? Thought those were high schools? Do they have middle school teams as well?

LB has middle school, CHC does not. CH coach has son on team. The kids aren't in HS if that is what you're driving at

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's showing the best down there doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone, does it? They are and have been very good. (LI parent...)

Noticed that FCA had a number of players with Calvert Hall and Loyola Blakefield helmets. How is that possible? Thought those were high schools? Do they have middle school teams as well?

Um, those kids probably have older brothers. Or they know they are going to one of those HS and have already picked up a helmet.

Not that hard to figure out. CH and LB are very closely tied to FCA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's showing the best down there doesn't really come as a surprise to anyone, does it? They are and have been very good. (LI parent...)

Noticed that FCA had a number of players with Calvert Hall and Loyola Blakefield helmets. How is that possible? Thought those were high schools? Do they have middle school teams as well?

Um, those kids probably have older brothers. Or they know they are going to one of those HS and have already picked up a helmet.

Not that hard to figure out. CH and LB are very closely tied to FCA.

I can see why you would buy a helmet a year in advance for a school you will be attending in the future

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies
Legacy
FCA
91 MD
Express
Sons
Hawks
Mesa

Legacy over terps in pecking order?
Need to go head to head

Looking at results and scores on TourneyMachine, I think the pecking order from this weekend in Pottstown looks like:

Looneys
Team 91 MD
FCA
Legacy
LIE
Sons
Hawks
Mesa Fresh

From Annapolis, MD games:

SweetLax
Leading Edge
Texas Mustangs
Madlax
Igloo
Koopers
Dukes
Next Level

*Crabs played only Sunday

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers. [/quote]

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day... [/quote]

Possibly but they trailed in their 3rd game the entire game by 2 or 3 and it looked like their opponent controlled most of the game and got sloppy at the end.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day...

Possibly but they trailed in their 3rd game the entire game by 2 or 3 and it looked like their opponent controlled most of the game and got sloppy at the end. [/quote]

That last game was against 91 MD, who was one of the best teams there. Doesn't surprise me that they were trailing for much of it... and trailing by 2/3 goals isn't a huge margin. Much different than losing by 6.

My point was more to the FCA vs LIE score being the outlier, FCA is not that much better than LIE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day... [/quote] No wrong. FCA was missing kids for their 2nd game. Sons scheduled game at 3 so they could play the full FCA team. Give Sons credit. They lack consistency on offense at times. They can play with anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day...

Possibly but they trailed in their 3rd game the entire game by 2 or 3 and it looked like their opponent controlled most of the game and got sloppy at the end.

That last game was against 91 MD, who was one of the best teams there. Doesn't surprise me that they were trailing for much of it... and trailing by 2/3 goals isn't a huge margin. Much different than losing by 6.

My point was more to the FCA vs LIE score being the outlier, FCA is not that much better than LIE. [/quote]

LIE's faceoff guy was visibly hurt and couldn't run, and he still won a lot of the faceoffs, maybe would've been different had he been full strength

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a fun day and many of the teams were equal. If you look at the scores, FCA did a number on Express. Then Express beats Sons by 1 and then Sons do a number on FCA. Thats just great all around lacrosse. Mesa and Hawks were definitely bottom 2.

Correction: Express lost to FCA 8-2 and then 91MD beat FCA, 8-3 or something like that, then Express tied 91MD 6-6. The FCA and Looney's teams looked the best, Looney's noticeably bigger than most of the other teams. Legacy only played on tough game against Looney's and got beat badly. There was not a bad team present.

Yes, the Looney's players did all look big. How does a team that went 1-2 look best?

This was a great day, nice venue, balanced competition, relaxed atmosphere and lots of friendly chatter on the sidelines. It was great to see the boys together on the sidelines watching the other games. Hats off to the Sons for organizing and I hope they do it again next year.

who went 1-2? Who did FCA play in their last game and what was score?

FCA lost to 91 MD and Sons.

What was the score of the Sons game? That's surprising as Express was up 5-2 with less than 10 mins left and then Sons scored 2 goals to close within 1 goal, but FCA took Express to school

That was not the score. Sons were up 2-0 then Express went up 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4. Express won all the faceoffs.

^^^

Incorrect, Express was up 5-2, Sons scored two good goals, and lost 5-4, Sons were up 2-0 early, and Express didn't win all the faceoffs either for a change, they usually dominate at the X against that team, maybe 70-30 or 80-20 in favor of Express, but their face off middie couldn't run in the second half. Not sure what the point of the prior post was, obviously from a bitter Sons' parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only conclusion that can be made is that Looney's was best, FCA must've had a different team vs. Express because there's no way that team loses to Sons 9-3 with same players, or gets beat easily by 91MD. All other games are toss ups, but Looney's convincing win over Legacy and two easy games does justify their #1 position.

FCA had a different team? That is an odd explanation- they struggle with consistency - beaten last year by Sons and several times by Team 91 lwhen they were Breakers.

Is it possible that LIE just started slow yesterday? Their game vs FCA was the first one of the day...

Possibly but they trailed in their 3rd game the entire game by 2 or 3 and it looked like their opponent controlled most of the game and got sloppy at the end.

That last game was against 91 MD, who was one of the best teams there. Doesn't surprise me that they were trailing for much of it... and trailing by 2/3 goals isn't a huge margin. Much different than losing by 6.

My point was more to the FCA vs LIE score being the outlier, FCA is not that much better than LIE.

LIE's faceoff guy was visibly hurt and couldn't run, and he still won a lot of the faceoffs, maybe would've been different had he been full strength [/quote]

This sounds like an excuse to me! If you're hurt, get off the field. He should be happy he didn't have to face the looneys f/o. He is clearly heads above all the others!

Doesn't Looney's have a bunch of holdbacks (or boys who should be 2019) on their team?

Looneys mostly public school boys.
They enjoy the spirit there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't Looney's have a bunch of holdbacks (or boys who should be 2019) on their team?

No

Yes they do,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't Looney's have a bunch of holdbacks (or boys who should be 2019) on their team?

No

Doubt a sons parent is on here. They don't give a hoot, they just want to play against good competition and make their kids better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^^

Incorrect, Express was up 5-2, Sons scored two good goals, and lost 5-4, Sons were up 2-0 early, and Express didn't win all the faceoffs either for a change, they usually dominate at the X against that team, maybe 70-30 or 80-20 in favor of Express, but their face off middie couldn't run in the second half. Not sure what the point of the prior post was, obviously from a bitter Sons' parent.

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Tough day for Hawks. Down 4 middies and 3 attack with football playoffs and injuries. They will be there when it counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough day for Hawks. Down 4 middies and 3 attack with football playoffs and injuries. They will be there when it counts.

Everyone is missing guys because of football or injuries. Stop making excuses, you woman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't Looney's have a bunch of holdbacks (or boys who should be 2019) on their team?

No

Yes some, be honest, but probably not a "bunch" very, very good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Not true, they're fine and only getting better, but if anyone's main face-off guy goes down they will have issues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Not true, they're fine and only getting better, but if anyone's main face-off guy goes down they will have issues

absolutely true, good team, overall above average, no where near Looney's or Crush with respect to talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tough day for Hawks. Down 4 middies and 3 attack with football playoffs and injuries. They will be there when it counts.

All of the football playoffs were the Saturday before. Got any other excuses?

Was Looney's face off guy there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Bunch of decent 2020 fogos that can compete with each other on any given day. Express included. None of them are are in the same league as Looneys kid who smokes them all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Not true, they're fine and only getting better, but if anyone's main face-off guy goes down they will have issues

absolutely true, good team, overall above average, no where near Looney's or Crush with respect to talent

They lost to looney's 5-4 at the end of the summer. Be careful, if weather is bad in Florida and flights get delayed, you'll be missing two of your best players looney's dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys mostly public school boys.
They enjoy the spirit there.

Except for the pre-first kids from Boys Latin and the Loyola kids among others. Yeah, all public school kids...

Kind of pathetic a team from a lacrosse rich area needs to find players in Florida to be relevant

Nobody from BL plays for Looney's, you dolt.

Looney's must have spanked his team..seems to have a issue!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kind of pathetic a team from a lacrosse rich area needs to find players in Florida to be relevant

All part of the "arms race" that is 8th grade lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kind of pathetic a team from a lacrosse rich area needs to find players in Florida to be relevant

So, it the kid from Florida chose to tryout for your club you wouldn't take him?

Sure he makes a ton of practices lolollool a team from Maryland or Long Island doesn't need a kid from another state

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody from BL plays for Looney's, you dolt.

Can't post kids names here but if you know anything about this team there is at least one and he is a pre-first holdback kid. Been on the team since the beginning...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure he makes a ton of practices lolollool a team from Maryland or Long Island doesn't need a kid from another state

Why not, because you said so? The kid fills a very important position, and lack competition in his own state. Get used to it many teams already do this and it will become prevalent in the next few years. Unless you are talking a true town team, kids can come from anywhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kind of pathetic a team from a lacrosse rich area needs to find players in Florida to be relevant

Following the Sweetlax model: Don't bother to develop any players, just grab any top level talent you can and take credit for their ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure he makes a ton of practices lolollool a team from Maryland or Long Island doesn't need a kid from another state

Why not, because you said so? The kid fills a very important position, and lack competition in his own state. Get used to it many teams already do this and it will become prevalent in the next few years. Unless you are talking a true town team, kids can come from anywhere.

I don't think it matters that he's out of state, but like I said previously, there isn't a team around that can live without their primary face off guy. Last year was first time Looney's beat Express, they definitely have holdbacks that were added last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kind of pathetic a team from a lacrosse rich area needs to find players in Florida to be relevant

Following the Sweetlax model: Don't bother to develop any players, just grab any top level talent you can and take credit for their ability.

I don't think any club can take "credit" for a kid's talent. First of all they don't even train key positions like F/O and goalie. Those kids need to pay for their own training. Second, many teams here on LI poach talent from other teams shamelessly. Sweetlax puts together talented teams because the kids enjoy playing for them, not because someone forced them to. Some are just sick of LI BS! Everyone wants to take the credit for a superstar. I think you may be confusing "Taking credit" for "the kids plays for my organization"

Looney's has been developing for two years.
Didn't just happen.
get off the holdback theory.

We have one BL, one Gilman and one Loyola player.
BL boy came to BL in sixth grade..is not a holdback.
Most players are public school, many Carroll County!!
YES, they enjoy beating the preps.

Looney's did add a number of big kids who look older than legit 2020. That's a fact. Shut everyone up by just listing the months of top five oldest players. No names, just month. Simple.

NO..just better than Express these days.

No need...

Ever play FCA??
Players are from all over USA!

you guys are all nuts. loonies has had a strong team since they started their 2020 team in 4th grade. All of the core players are still with them and each year they have added great kids to the team. They have several private school kids currently and many more are looking at schools so they can play in the MIAA but yes there are a lot of public school kids too. It is a nice mix of kids and parents. They work hard and have fun. Enough Said. Enjoy this time and stop the picking on kids. The best part of last weekend was all of the teams respecting each other and getting along. Now this board reverts to trash talk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ever play FCA??
Players are from all over USA!

That's for tournaments like vail. The team that's was there this weekend and all the other leagues and tournaments is just the Maryland team

Probably because the trash talkers didn't attend. Hope the kids had fun over the weekend. Looking forward to hopefully playing Looney's again at the Autumn Classic. Edge lacrosse

Easy. Some of the core just moved down the depth chart. Others continue to play cause guess Well you figure it out. Should you be patrolling the roads and not message boards.

The better Looney's 2020 kids left for the Crabs. The team will likely fold in 1-2 years, like the Looney's did for the sophomore and junior teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys are all nuts. loonies has had a strong team since they started their 2020 team in 4th grade. All of the core players are still with them and each year they have added great kids to the team. They have several private school kids currently and many more are looking at schools so they can play in the MIAA but yes there are a lot of public school kids too. It is a nice mix of kids and parents. They work hard and have fun. Enough Said. Enjoy this time and stop the picking on kids. The best part of last weekend was all of the teams respecting each other and getting along. Now this board reverts to trash talk.

One area in which Looney's is untouchabel is their cool air misters which I saw them break out at a MD tournament last summer. Looked like a bunch of pampered princes being misted under their tent. Too funny....Street tough they are not, but they can play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express definitely lost some talent...picking up 91 leftovers is not an upgrade. They are still a very good team and will be able to compete with anyone given their F/O guy. If he goes down, look out below. Big drop off after.

Love,

fl$ Dad whose son used to play for Terps

Please!

Heart of Looney's are white trash families from Bel Air (MD, not CA).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The better Looney's 2020 kids left for the Crabs. The team will likely fold in 1-2 years, like the Looney's did for the sophomore and junior teams.

Didn't the Crabs lose last weekend, strange when you claim the upgraded

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heart of Looney's are white trash families from Bel Air (MD, not CA).

Did your wife have an affair with someone from Bel Air? Post that with your name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The better Looney's 2020 kids left for the Crabs. The team will likely fold in 1-2 years, like the Looney's did for the sophomore and junior teams.

There's no kids on Crabs 2020 that were on Looney's 2020. But you know that. A team has a good showing and the haters come out.

So just how did your assessment lead you to think that FCA & Looney's looked the best? FCA went 1-2 in the day and lost soundly to Sons & 91 MD. It seemed to me that there was a lot of talent up there but Looney's, Rising Son's and 91 MD looked the most impressive. Don't forget Hawks are very good and were missing some of their best players. That coach at Hawks looks like he doesn't mess around and those kids always play hard for him. Looney's is by far the team to beat that has a mostly legit 2020 team. Hawks, Sons, FCA, 91 MD, LI Express and Legacy all seem to have legit 2020 kids.

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

Those kids are on Looney's now because they were cut and replaced by better players. LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So just how did your assessment lead you to think that FCA & Looney's looked the best? FCA went 1-2 in the day and lost soundly to Sons & 91 MD. It seemed to me that there was a lot of talent up there but Looney's, Rising Son's and 91 MD looked the most impressive. Don't forget Hawks are very good and were missing some of their best players. That coach at Hawks looks like he doesn't mess around and those kids always play hard for him. Looney's is by far the team to beat that has a mostly legit 2020 team. Hawks, Sons, FCA, 91 MD, LI Express and Legacy all seem to have legit 2020 kids.

I like how this Hawks Dad tried to slip an excuse in there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

Those kids are on Looney's now because they were cut and replaced by better players. LOL.

Replaced by 15 year olds. Looney's second keeper is excellent...Crabs screwed up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

LOL. They got cut. They didn't leave because they didn't buy into what Crabs was doing.

It's amazing the straws that you people grasp at to try to put the club down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

LOL. They got cut. They didn't leave because they didn't buy into what Crabs was doing.

It's amazing the straws that you people grasp at to try to put the club down.

Funny how the crab parents talk about 8th grade kids as if they are pieces of meat. The goalie who left, for whatever reason, is a very good player and kid. Crabs will realize their mistake in a year or two.

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

Those kids are on Looney's now because they were cut and replaced by better players. LOL.

Replaced by 15 year olds. Looney's second keeper is excellent...Crabs screwed up!

Could be the starter too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys 2nd half goalie was on crabs last year. Hawks FO guy came from crabs too. Not every parent has drank RM's holdback philosophy. Good for them and their kids.

Those kids are on Looney's now because they were cut and replaced by better players. LOL.

Replaced by 15 year olds. Looney's second keeper is excellent...Crabs screwed up!

Could be the starter too

The guy crabs replaced him with is not even that good and he's old so he fits in the crabs model

Those kids were replaced with 2019 players. Holdbacks rule in Crabby land.

Anyone have the scores of the tournament Maryland last weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those kids were replaced with 2019 players. Holdbacks rule in Crabby land.

Actually, no.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Those kids were replaced with 2019 players. Holdbacks rule in Crabby land.

Actually, no.

umm, yes! New goalie is older.

??? they are NOT tough?? REALLY???
You are a funny guy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

??? they are NOT tough?? REALLY???
You are a funny guy!

sure they are! Just admit it and stop lying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

So you are saying it's ok if a team only cheats a little? The whole system is a [lacrosse] show. Pot calling the kettle black. Time for some actual rules!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

So you are saying it's ok if a team only cheats a little? The whole system is a [lacrosse] show. Pot calling the kettle black. Time for some actual rules!

There should be age rules, I agree! One of the previous posters asked why Crabs gets singled out more than others. I gave him an honest answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

The issue therein lies that a kid born in November of 2001 is technically a holdback for 2020 LI team, but is age appropriate for the rest of the country. A sept 2001 is a hold back for sure in LI and STILL age appropriate for the rest of the country. As far as I'm concerned- LI teams would be fine posting their rosters. At the worse- you'll see kids that are age appropriate for the rest of the country. You might find a kid here and there with a summer birthday which seems to be the absolute standard for MD prep school filled teams. The joke is going to be that soon- a holdback will not be unique and more and more kids will do it- taking away any advantage. Now that'll be great- all these kids just screwed their academic path for nothing because everyone is now older!

Get rid of grade based- it's stupid. Play up if you have skill- those that play down do so if their skill set is weak or they are slow. Go U based by year until HS. Simple...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

But not all are as brazen as the LI kid playing down without even reclassing. Dispicable!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didnt do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

But not all are as brazen as the LI kid playing down without even reclassing. Dispicable!

What LI teams are playing this weekend and where?

It seems there were several cut crabs kids out there on Sunday making an impact on other teams. It's good that those kids now have a home where they feel welcome & are not stressed out about what 2019 kid is going to repeat 9th grade again next year. There are clearly coaches that see talent and not always think size is everything. The Looney's goalie is small but very quick & does a great job in the cage. The Faceoff middy for Hawks was cut & I saw him beat the Looney's guy at least 4 times. 91 has an attackman cut by crabs that is small & was lighting it up. In the end who really cares what the Crabs are doing. It's only 8th grade lax & if your chasing championships in 8th grade then your clearly not focused on what is really important. Developing, mentoring & training young men to make a difference in life through athletics is what it's all about. Let the king crab chase crush & take whatever measures possible to beat them. It's actually comical!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

But not all are as brazen as the LI kid playing down without even reclassing. Dispicable!

Every year we all go onto the US Lacrosse website and renew for another year. No big stretch to require a yearly headshot be uploaded or mailed, with a laminated ID being sent back with picture, name, ID number and birth year. Also require a one time only mailing of birth certificate. ID cards can be checked before each game - town or travel. Forget your card, you don't play.

I don't know why college coaches don't jump on this. If I am offering 9th and 10th graders I want to know the kid will be good. Watching a 17 year old dominate 15 year olds tells me less about the 17 year old than if he were dominating other 17 year olds. When they get to February of there freshman year, even the youngest are already 18. The age advantage is gone. The 17 year old that was dominating 15 year olds when offered may not be so hot as a 20 year old vs 18 year olds. The bottom line is that while kids are developing, the best way to predict future success is to see them play against kids their own age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Spoken like true Lying Crab coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Spoken like true Lying Crab coach

Well, I guess if you can't beat them, keep throwing mud, even it you know you're just making stuff up.

(and I don't even live in MD, let alone have anything to do with Madlax or the Crabs).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Spoken like true Lying Crab coach

Well, I guess if you can't beat them, keep throwing mud, even it you know you're just making stuff up.

(and I don't even live in MD, let alone have anything to do with Madlax or the Crabs).

We believe you Ryan!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Which team???

Which team DOESNT have holdbacks? Seriously every LI team I know has at least one kid who should be in 9th grade. It may not be as open and widespread as say Edge Ontario, but they are there. Ironically also, they are often not the biggest kids so they fly under the radar. I agree that MD has raised re-classing to an art form......but the complaining on LI rings a little hollow unless or until all the clubs here want to lay near their rosters by DOB and take a no hold-back. What's that I hear? Cricket, cricket .....that's what I thought.

The issue therein lies that a kid born in November of 2001 is technically a holdback for 2020 LI team, but is age appropriate for the rest of the country. A sept 2001 is a hold back for sure in LI and STILL age appropriate for the rest of the country. As far as I'm concerned- LI teams would be fine posting their rosters. At the worse- you'll see kids that are age appropriate for the rest of the country. You might find a kid here and there with a summer birthday which seems to be the absolute standard for MD prep school filled teams. The joke is going to be that soon- a holdback will not be unique and more and more kids will do it- taking away any advantage. Now that'll be great- all these kids just screwed their academic path for nothing because everyone is now older!

Get rid of grade based- it's stupid. Play up if you have skill- those that play down do so if their skill set is weak or they are slow. Go U based by year until HS. Simple...

PA parent here, I would say most of the top teams are LOADED with kids born from April 2001-August 2001. Most held back Pre-K, but a handful reclassed. Some of the reclassed kids are even older than that. I would bet money on it!!! I would estimate that my son's team has about 50% of the kids in that age range and we only have 2 kids that have actually reclassed, all of the others are kids who started K at 6

Does anyone have the Battle of the Bay scores that was held in Maryland over Halloween weekend. Or know where I can find them? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have the Battle of the Bay scores that was held in Maryland over Halloween weekend. Or know where I can find them? Thanks

Good luck to Legacy and fl$ in Massachusetts this weekend. Represent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Faceoff middy for Hawks was cut

So you are lusting after the physiques of 8th graders? Ok, weirdo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Look, we all saw on NATIONAL TV what happened when the Crabs played 91 Crush with age appropriate kids verified via birth certificate, the game was over at halftime, be real!

Crabs are going to crush the Crush in a rematch. For real.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have the Battle of the Bay scores that was held in Maryland over Halloween weekend. Or know where I can find them? Thanks

Good luck to Legacy and fl$ in Massachusetts this weekend. Represent

Good luck to you too Dad. Try to "represent" by not getting kicked out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have the Battle of the Bay scores that was held in Maryland over Halloween weekend. Or know where I can find them? Thanks

Good luck to Legacy and fl$ in Massachusetts this weekend. Represent

Good luck to you too Dad. Try to "represent" by not getting kicked out.

I don't think either team has parents that would be thrown out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs are going to crush the Crush in a rematch. For real.

Ha, they may be competitive, but that's with a bushel of holdbacks. See what I did there?

The excuse making has already begun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs are going to crush the Crush in a rematch. For real.

Ha, they may be competitive, but that's with a bushel of holdbacks. See what I did there?

Another team in MD will go Looney cracking some crabs this year!

From one "Dad" to another "Dad". Thank you. Or are you an espeically caring cousin, uncle or brother...or maybe a crazed Mom. Idiot...who do you thihk is on this board...all us crazy dads..some more than others.

Who is playing in NYPLL this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AAU Basketball just changed their eligibility to restrict birthdays and many kids found out their old team did not want them. They put in some grade based grandfathering for older kids, but not younger (U-14 or less).

(Example: 15U/9th Grade: An athlete can be no older than 15 on August 31, 2015. Grade Exception: An athlete who is in the 9th grade as of Oct 1, 2014 and who is no older than 16 on August 31, 2015 is eligible to play in the 15U/9th grade division)

It is too late for the 2020 to be affected by a stricter rule change, but there is hope for my 2025. Hopefully, lacrosse can get their act together.

Crabs will figure some way to cheat the system.

I am totally against the holding back of kids for an athletic advantage. Think it's terrible. But why single out the Crabs? Every team has them. One team who didn�t do so well last weekend at Hill even has a kid that just decided to play down without even reclassing. It's sad that people would go to these lengths to try to make their kid look better temporarily.

Crabs manipulate the system the most. Look what they did at Beach Lax this past summer. Most teams probably have a couple, but their entire starting lineup is holdbacks.

The entire starting lineup is holdback? Nice bold-faced lie, dad.

Look, we all saw on NATIONAL TV what happened when the Crabs played 91 Crush with age appropriate kids verified via birth certificate, the game was over at halftime, be real!

Didn't they manipulate the cut-off date for this event to make some kids eligible to play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.

Are your upgrades in the form if holdbacks? Would you be willing to play in age based tournaments?

You mean like the whole team held back... Hey Edge, try playing some 2019 LI teams, they will most likely be younger than your new "upgraded" older team.

we are not as bad as the Crabs, but a September 01 cutoff date would change our team significantly. (Ontario Edge).

We have a team born in 2001 and 2000 we don't hide behind this by claiming to have reclassified every tournament director fully understands this so what's the problem. The 2000 team played last week at the NBF event in Baltimore and the 2001 team played 2019 last week in Richmond. I believe the 2000 team are playing this weekend at Towson and Nov 21/22 at Philly Freshman. The 2001 team are at Adrenaline Nov 14th and Autumn Classic Nov15th. Let's face it friend everyone is cheating at least we don't hide the ages of our kids all there to see. Played Team Carolina 2019 last week and they were all 2000,s and late 99's. LI is just better we get it. Still go to our website our entire 2016 team is playing NCAA starting next Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we are not as bad as the Crabs, but a September 01 cutoff date would change our team significantly. (Ontario Edge).

In New [lacrosse] your entire team should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team....stop talking like a lawyer.

I am a lawyer can't help it.

the Edge 2001 team ..kids with birthdates from May 2001 to Mar 2002 are playing fl$ 2019 next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a team born in 2001 and 2000 we don't hide behind this by claiming to have reclassified every tournament director fully understands this so what's the problem. The 2000 team played last week at the NBF event in Baltimore and the 2001 team played 2019 last week in Richmond. I believe the 2000 team are playing this weekend at Towson and Nov 21/22 at Philly Freshman. The 2001 team are at Adrenaline Nov 14th and Autumn Classic Nov15th. Let's face it friend everyone is cheating at least we don't hide the ages of our kids all there to see. Played Team Carolina 2019 last week and they were all 2000,s and late 99's. LI is just better we get it. Still go to our website our entire 2016 team is playing NCAA starting next Fall.

Great! Just curious though, who will handle the cheating for them in college? Assuming they graduate, what are their plans to cheat in the workplace? Once a cheater always a cheater.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a team born in 2001 and 2000 we don't hide behind this by claiming to have reclassified every tournament director fully understands this so what's the problem. The 2000 team played last week at the NBF event in Baltimore and the 2001 team played 2019 last week in Richmond. I believe the 2000 team are playing this weekend at Towson and Nov 21/22 at Philly Freshman. The 2001 team are at Adrenaline Nov 14th and Autumn Classic Nov15th. Let's face it friend everyone is cheating at least we don't hide the ages of our kids all there to see. Played Team Carolina 2019 last week and they were all 2000,s and late 99's. LI is just better we get it. Still go to our website our entire 2016 team is playing NCAA starting next Fall.

Great! Just curious though, who will handle the cheating for them in college? Assuming they graduate, what are their plans to cheat in the workplace? Once a cheater always a cheater.

Don't blame the kids. It's the organization they play for that sets it up and the tournament organizers who allow them to play down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Played Team Carolina 2019 last week and they were all 2000,s and late 99's.

You are wrong about Team Carolina. They had summer 1999 birthdays on that team.

So much jealously of Madlax and the Crabs. No rules broken, but crying continues.

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Crabs on the other hand are much better, probably #2 in the area, however they abuse the weak lax rules and ruin the integrity of youth lax.

Um, no one dragged Madlax into it but you...just crabbies...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, no one dragged Madlax into it but you...just crabbies...

Did you read the post saying "so much jealousy of mad lax and crabs"? Somebody did bring up mad lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a team born in 2001 and 2000 we don't hide behind this by claiming to have reclassified every tournament director fully understands this so what's the problem. The 2000 team played last week at the NBF event in Baltimore and the 2001 team played 2019 last week in Richmond. I believe the 2000 team are playing this weekend at Towson and Nov 21/22 at Philly Freshman. The 2001 team are at Adrenaline Nov 14th and Autumn Classic Nov15th. Let's face it friend everyone is cheating at least we don't hide the ages of our kids all there to see. Played Team Carolina 2019 last week and they were all 2000,s and late 99's. LI is just better we get it. Still go to our website our entire 2016 team is playing NCAA starting next Fall.

Of course they are, most should freshman or sophomores in College NOW. BTW 2000's and 1999 are 2018's were we come from... You guys ever play up? There's a concept, huh?

Stop whining and take your losses in stride...Looney's, Crabs and even FC will beat most if not all on LI

we played up in Richmond last weekend and played team Carolina with kids over two years older than our boys. If the sytem was like hockey 2001 play agst 2001 it would work a lot better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we played up in Richmond last weekend and played team Carolina with kids over two years older than our boys. If the sytem was like hockey 2001 play agst 2001 it would work a lot better

how does youth hockey work when kids are in 8th grade? Most states aren't calendar year. So if school cutoff is 9/1 do they still split up the 2001s and 2002s in 8th grade? Do the 2001s just play in a smaller league because many 2001 are (or should be) in HS

School in Canada is based on Year of Birth..so every child born in 2001 is in grade 9. Jan 1-dec31. And kids are not held back for any reason. You do get older kids sometimes repeat grade 12 (nicknamed a victory lap) to improve their averages for University admission.

Youth hockey has really worked it out. Within each age division, Jan 1 cutoff, there are:

House - new player, and players who might no be good but love the game
B Team - Travel lowest level
Lower A - Travel next level
A - Travel with mostly or all minor age of the division
Upper A - Travel with a mix of minor and major ages of the division
AA - Travel with a majority or all of majors of the age division
AAA - Tier 1 hockey ( lots of plane rides)

Bottom line is it is all age based and strictly enforced, especially by the tournaments who will reclass teams to other tourney divisions based on records and mix of ages on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

Really? How did they do at young guns?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Youth hockey has really worked it out. Within each age division, Jan 1 cutoff, there are:

House - new player, and players who might no be good but love the game
B Team - Travel lowest level
Lower A - Travel next level
A - Travel with mostly or all minor age of the division
Upper A - Travel with a mix of minor and major ages of the division
AA - Travel with a majority or all of majors of the age division
AAA - Tier 1 hockey ( lots of plane rides)

Bottom line is it is all age based and strictly enforced, especially by the tournaments who will reclass teams to other tourney divisions based on records and mix of ages on the team.

Hockey isn't so great either! ex...if you have a late year birthday (11/2004) and say your a first year peewee (or any other age group) you could have kids on the team 2 grades ahead of you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

behind who?

I know!

Crush, Looney's, Crabs, FCA, 91 MD, Hawks, LIE, Lagacy, Sons, Mesa, and probably a few of the previously mentioned second teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

Crush, smush, Bunch of Cody Paul's on that team. You'll see. If you don't know who Cody paul is youtube it. You'll understand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Youth hockey has really worked it out. Within each age division, Jan 1 cutoff, there are:

House - new player, and players who might no be good but love the game
B Team - Travel lowest level
Lower A - Travel next level
A - Travel with mostly or all minor age of the division
Upper A - Travel with a mix of minor and major ages of the division
AA - Travel with a majority or all of majors of the age division
AAA - Tier 1 hockey ( lots of plane rides)

Bottom line is it is all age based and strictly enforced, especially by the tournaments who will reclass teams to other tourney divisions based on records and mix of ages on the team.

Hockey isn't so great either! ex...if you have a late year birthday (11/2004) and say your a first year peewee (or any other age group) you could have kids on the team 2 grades ahead of you?

It is OK if they are on the team, just won't play against teams loaded with that age as they would play in a higher division. Grade had zero to do with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Youth hockey has really worked it out. Within each age division, Jan 1 cutoff, there are:

House - new player, and players who might no be good but love the game
B Team - Travel lowest level
Lower A - Travel next level
A - Travel with mostly or all minor age of the division
Upper A - Travel with a mix of minor and major ages of the division
AA - Travel with a majority or all of majors of the age division
AAA - Tier 1 hockey ( lots of plane rides)

Bottom line is it is all age based and strictly enforced, especially by the tournaments who will reclass teams to other tourney divisions based on records and mix of ages on the team.

Hockey isn't so great either! ex...if you have a late year birthday (11/2004) and say your a first year peewee (or any other age group) you could have kids on the team 2 grades ahead of you?

It is OK if they are on the team, just won't play against teams loaded with that age as they would play in a higher division. Grade had zero to do with it.

it would only work in Lax hotbeds, not enough players to fill teams in many areas. School year is the best or a date close to it and strictly enforced. Problem is, US Lax has no backbone and is afraid of its own shadow, they won't enforce anything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

keep dreamin!

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

If they have enough kids for a VA and MD team maybe they're 7th and 8th in the area. Please tell us who any of these teams have beaten otherwise stop taking about them. #notafactor

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

If they have enough kids for a VA and MD team maybe they're 7th and 8th in the area. Please tell us who any of these teams have beaten otherwise stop taking about them. #notafactor

Keep talking. We have an awesome team now and will show you on the field. It helps to be part of the best club in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

If they have enough kids for a VA and MD team maybe they're 7th and 8th in the area. Please tell us who any of these teams have beaten otherwise stop taking about them. #notafactor

Keep talking. We have an awesome team now and will show you on the field. It helps to be part of the best club in the country.

What fall tournaments have you played and what teams have you played ?

How do you Madlax folks explain getting hammered by Hawks 2020 Black a few weeks ago? That beat down by a team decimated with injuries does not support your claim of greatness!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

If they have enough kids for a VA and MD team maybe they're 7th and 8th in the area. Please tell us who any of these teams have beaten otherwise stop taking about them. #notafactor

Keep talking. We have an awesome team now and will show you on the field. It helps to be part of the best club in the country.

Breakers white ...I mean 91 MD Platnum, FCA white or Looney's green would take mad lax out

Last weekend Madlax 2020 beat Igloo and Dukes. Played Leading Edge and Sweet lax pretty close. Lots of new players it looks like. Sweet lax won the toutournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

If they have enough kids for a VA and MD team maybe they're 7th and 8th in the area. Please tell us who any of these teams have beaten otherwise stop taking about them. #notafactor

Keep talking. We have an awesome team now and will show you on the field. It helps to be part of the best club in the country.

Breakers white ...I mean 91 MD Platnum, FCA white or Looney's green would take mad lax out[/quote

Meaning each of these are the second tier 2020 team for these Clubs and Madlax would not come close to FCA Blue, 91 MD Force or Looneys Orange the first tier of those Clubs in the area. Maybe they could play Crabs 2020 on age Denver team.

Mad lax 2020 was destroyed by Hawks at Landon. Don't know if they were full strength - but they were embarrased.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Last weekend Madlax 2020 beat Igloo and Dukes. Played Leading Edge and Sweet lax pretty close. Lots of new players it looks like. Sweet lax won the toutournament.

Dukes 2020 is terrible. With the addition of the Sons in Phila and Mesa, Freedom and HHH, there isn't enough talent for another good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mad lax 2020 has nothing the other MD teams are jealous about. They are probably 7th or 8th at best in the Northern VA / MD area.

Wrong. Madlax 2020 probably the 3rd best in the country. So much jealously, but we're used to it since we're the best club in the country.

The third best hahaha. More like the 7th or 8th best in maryland

You'll see. Madlax 2020s have a much bigger talent pool now with enough kids to fill a Madlax 2020 VA and a Madlax 2020 MD team.

Madlax has the best 2018 and 2019 teams in the country and it won't be long before our 2020 team is the best too.

NO they don't they have the best national team in the country

Updates from Mayflower tourney today?

The Hawks FO middie is a true 8th grader and one of the best In that age group. He is in a good place now. It is what it is. He will continue to work hard and get better regardless of where he plays. He can face against any 2019 kid out there. All this back and forth about hold backs is ridiculous. If your kid is good he will shine to those that are truly looking for talent no matter what team he plays on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Updates from Mayflower tourney today?

Both LI teams go 3-0

Crush lost to Blackwolves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost to Blackwolves

If this is true the excuse making will start in 3, 2, 1...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost to Blackwolves

If this is true the excuse making will start in 3, 2, 1...

No excuses at all kids had a great day played hard and played 2019 teams at Maryland recruiting tournament Great day lost to Blackwolves 2019 (vlc) beat express and C2C national team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost to Blackwolves

If this is true the excuse making will start in 3, 2, 1...

No excuses at all kids had a great day played hard and played 2019 teams at Maryland recruiting tournament Great day lost to Blackwolves 2019 (vlc) beat express and C2C national team

First of all, it's Blackwolf. Second, Blackwolf is NOT VLC. VLC is a different club owned by the Crabs.

How was competition at Mayflower yesterday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost to Blackwolves

If this is true the excuse making will start in 3, 2, 1...

No excuses at all kids had a great day played hard and played 2019 teams at Maryland recruiting tournament Great day lost to Blackwolves 2019 (vlc) beat express and C2C national team

First of all, it's Blackwolf. Second, Blackwolf is NOT VLC. VLC is a different club owned by the Crabs.

There are boys in this area that play both my nephew happens to be one of them and while he played BW yesterday, today VLC is playing Terp classic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Hawks FO middie is a true 8th grader and one of the best In that age group. He is in a good place now. It is what it is. He will continue to work hard and get better regardless of where he plays. He can face against any 2019 kid out there. All this back and forth about hold backs is ridiculous. If your kid is good he will shine to those that are truly looking for talent no matter what team he plays on.

Hawks FO middie isn't even close to being one of the best in his age group, nice try DAD.

How did Madlax 2020 do? Someone said on this thread they are one of the best in the country.

MadLax Capital 2020 lost twice this weekend to 3d Pacific 2020.

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

And....?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

Because you beat Rising Sons? Several teams have beaten Rising Sons recently. Remember the no whining when Crush or Crabs beats you again. Your arrogance will not be forgotten.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

Looney's 7-6 over Freedom, yikes!

Looneys is a bunch of clowns. I heard there's a goalie battle going. Fca will beat you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

Looney's 7-6 over Freedom, yikes!

Interesting as Leading Edge beat that same Freedom team
11-4 and Rising Sons beat the same Freedom team 13-5 at same event today. Understand why they only mentioned the Rising Sons game when putting it out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is a bunch of clowns. I heard there's a goalie battle going. Fca will beat you.

Good to have two goalies to compete against one another. They get better that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Looneys mom or dad you beat Freedom 7-6 today FREEDOM hah please only going to get worse when kids start leaving for real club teams. Your playing one goal games w C teams. Express will beat Looneys as well Maybe you meant 91 Maryland ?

Looneys 7-6 over Freedom
Looneys 11-7 over Leading Edge

Crickets

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is a bunch of clowns. I heard there's a goalie battle going. Fca will beat you.

Does FCA have one or two goalies? Last year they were only supposed to have one goalie but decided to bring down their 2019 goalie for the MPLL on Saturday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Looneys mom or dad you beat Freedom 7-6 today FREEDOM hah please only going to get worse when kids start leaving for real club teams. Your playing one goal games w C teams. Express will beat Looneys as well Maybe you meant 91 Maryland ?

Express parent, just let Crush deal with Looneys. Didn't you tie 91 Maryland last weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Looneys mom or dad you beat Freedom 7-6 today FREEDOM hah please only going to get worse when kids start leaving for real club teams. Your playing one goal games w C teams. Express will beat Looneys as well Maybe you meant 91 Maryland ?

Express parent, just let Crush deal with Looneys. Didn't you tie 91 Maryland last weekend?

And crabs will take care of crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Looneys mom or dad you beat Freedom 7-6 today FREEDOM hah please only going to get worse when kids start leaving for real club teams. Your playing one goal games w C teams. Express will beat Looneys as well Maybe you meant 91 Maryland ?

Express parent, just let Crush deal with Looneys. Didn't you tie 91 Maryland last weekend?

And crabs will take care of crush

Guess that depends if they play their on age Denver team or their holdback laden team. One they can lose with their character intact, the other they continue as the team with no respect across the community.

You really want to help your kid get into a good college and/ or get scholarship money? Worry less about showcases and more about the SAT and ACT. Have your son get on the honor roll and crank out a 33 on his ACT and watch him go to a better school than most of the ones you are dreaming about for lax. Oh and an ACT tutor is a fraction of what gets spent on lax.

This is copied from the 2020 board. I truly believe this is the best advice I have seen on this site. Unfortunately, I believe there are too many kids spending hours playing lacrosse and watching lacrosse film that should really be studying!! There are lots of people out there that have some really messed up priorities. Sad because the kids need to realize there is life after lacrosse and yep it is fun to play and be part of a team, but it is WAY more important to get good grade, be in accelerated classes and do well on SAT/ACT. That is what will get you into a great school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

I think Looney's are the top 2020 now. There's a new kid in town. Crush got lucky last time. Looking forward to the rematch. Bring it on. (And no whining please)

If you are really a Looney's parent please stop. It's your son's success and his teammates, not yours or the other parents. Be humble so it rubs off on your kid.

Looneys mom or dad you beat Freedom 7-6 today FREEDOM hah please only going to get worse when kids start leaving for real club teams. Your playing one goal games w C teams. Express will beat Looneys as well Maybe you meant 91 Maryland ?

Express parent, just let Crush deal with Looneys. Didn't you tie 91 Maryland last weekend?

And crabs will take care of crush

Those holdbacks sure better be superstars and tromp over the LI teams, including Crush, because we know what your regular on age kids can do. Sad that you need older kids to compete with LIs younger kids.

Forget team wins or loses- the bigger question in my mind is WHY do you need older kids to win? That just might be the most important question for the success of your kid. Maybe looking at the bigger picture will help your kids more than trying to add a win to a website. Does it irritate you that most kids don't have to play younger kids to get recruited?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MadLax Capital 2020 lost twice this weekend to 3d Pacific 2020.

Is 3D Pacific 2020 a great team?

Team 91 MD @ NXT:

11-1 over PA Roughriders Elite
9-1 over NXT 2020
9-7 over Evolve Elite "2020" - the Canadian team was good and full of 14-15 year old Canadian 8th graders. Solid team.

Freedom 2020 must be good - played Looney's to 6-7.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MD @ NXT:

11-1 over PA Roughriders Elite
9-1 over NXT 2020
9-7 over Evolve Elite "2020" - the Canadian team was good and full of 14-15 year old Canadian 8th graders. Solid team.

Freedom 2020 must be good - played Looney's to 6-7.

I saw the Terps had fun beating up weak Florida teams this weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

Looney's 7-6 over Freedom, yikes!

Sons 13-5 over Freedom. Yikes! Their 13/14 year olds, well at least the PA teams are. Sometimes they show up and play sometimes they don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's 2020 over Rising Sons 13-4 @ NXT West Chester today

Looney's 7-6 over Freedom, yikes!

Interesting as Leading Edge beat that same Freedom team
11-4 and Rising Sons beat the same Freedom team 13-5 at same event today. Understand why they only mentioned the Rising Sons game when putting it out there.

and the Sons only had 4 mids on a box sized field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MadLax Capital 2020 lost twice this weekend to 3d Pacific 2020.

Is 3D Pacific 2020 a great team?

Pretty good. We had a bad weekend, but we were missing a bunch of guys. Madlax 2020 is still one of the best 3 2020 teams in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MadLax Capital 2020 lost twice this weekend to 3d Pacific 2020.

Is 3D Pacific 2020 a great team?

Pretty good. We had a bad weekend, but we were missing a bunch of guys. Madlax 2020 is still one of the best 3 2020 teams in the country.

Mad lax couldn't beat 91 and, FCA, or Looney's second teams.

Madlax Dad - why not start your own thread and then post to your heart's content. I am sick of reading you write post after post about how unbelievable your son's team is. Get a life or come up with a stand alone thread that probably only you will want to read.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax Dad - why not start your own thread and then post to your heart's content. I am sick of reading you write post after post about how unbelievable your son's team is. Get a life or come up with a stand alone thread that probably only you will want to read.

Forget MadLax. Any scouting reports for the Juiced Cherries from Michigan? They are playing in Delaware this weekend.

while you are at it... Team one Thunderbirds (?) and BAttlelax...never heard of either.

really? your worried about the Juiced Cherries????

Battlelax is out of Annapolis I think

Originally Posted by Anonymous

really? your worried about the Juiced Cherries????

Not worried at all. Just trying to lighten up the tone of the thread after the bashing that's been going on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Battlelax is out of Annapolis I think

It is out of Manassas, VA. Third tier program.

Team one Thunderbirds ore out of Chicago. know nothing other than that.

That fl$ in 3D has turned into a watered down money grab...3D all about profits as they have to answer to the private equity firm that invested $5 mil

Originally Posted by Anonymous

really? your worried about the Juiced Cherries????

Not worried at all. Just trying to lighten up the tone of the thread after the bashing that's been going on.

Visor Dad rules!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax Dad - why not start your own thread and then post to your heart's content. I am sick of reading you write post after post about how unbelievable your son's team is. Get a life or come up with a stand alone thread that probably only you will want to read.

Oooh, what a dig. Guess you're sore that your club wasn't ranked the #1 club in the nation by Inside Lacrosse.

Deal with it.

now that is funny. It could be more for All I know...

Express must be desperate for coaches if they continue to let that big moron coach...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express must be desperate for coaches if they continue to let that big moron coach...

Which one?

lol...not the St. A's coach or the Commack guy...

RVC guy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

lol...not the St. A's coach or the Commack guy...

Gotcha. The one that tells his players they suck

WHO?

Your talking about the old Crush Coach ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

now that is funny. It could be more for All I know...

Keep laughing, LI guy. The best 2020 teams are coming down to Madlax's National Club Championships next month and we will settle it on the field.

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Visor Dad? Juiced Cherries? Big Moron telling his team they suck? what the [lacrosse] did I just step into here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MadLax Capital 2020 lost twice this weekend to 3d Pacific 2020.

Is 3D Pacific 2020 a great team?

Pretty good. We had a bad weekend, but we were missing a bunch of guys. Madlax 2020 is still one of the best 3 2020 teams in the country.

Madlax has never played anyone. Come play Crush, Looney's, Crabs, FCA, Sons, HHH, Express, Legacy, fl$, NH, Laxachusettes, Sweetlax and then talk

Rvc, old crush coach never wears a VISOR.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

not at all! All of the following can beat the above!

Crush, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD, Crabs, LIE, Legacy, Hawks, Bethesda, and Sons.

visor dad - he is like a superhero.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

not at all! All of the following can beat the above!

Crush, Looney's, FCA, 91 MD, Crabs, LIE, Legacy, Hawks, Bethesda, and Sons.

Not sure how Sons continues to be in the conversation as a top team.

Cause their a dominant fogo away from beating everyone consistently

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rvc, old crush coach never wears a VISOR.

Now he coaches a few little guy teams for LIE. Still yelling I bet.

Oh no....madlax 2020 test is near. They play Sunday in belair.guess who they play noon??
Smiles

Some top to bottom alignment will be possible after Famous Autumn Classic this coming Sunday

Looney's
Leading Edge
Crabs
Edge

I think that might be the semi final lineup later Sunday. Likely 2-1 teams would be Madlax and Legacy.

I'm picking Edge!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

Speaking of WSYL, C2C is the team that lost 30-0 to Crush in Denver, a championship lacrosse record that may never be broken.

Not really. Sometimes but no more than any other coach. If you can't handle a little yelling don't play sports. He's positive as well.

DELETED , he has learned it from the the other MORON on the sideline with the stupid TATTOOS

Take Bethesda out and replace with Next Level 2020 Black. But yes, the above is a low level A/B tourney.

Yelling is fine if their is any actual intelligence, instruction, or something remotely positive or constructive in the feedback. Guy is the quintessential example of the ills of "daddyball". (and steakhead)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yelling is fine if their is any actual intelligence, instruction, or something remotely positive or constructive in the feedback. Guy is the quintessential example of the ills of "daddyball". (and steakhead)

Please tell me you are not talking about the RVC guy. He occasionally has some salty language but that is sports. He is great with the kids and they all love playing for him. The "daddyball" comment is hilarious considering he has no kids on any of the teams he coaches...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh no....madlax 2020 test is near. They play Sunday in belair.guess who they play noon??
Smiles

We're ready for you. I hear you've lost a lot of kids to Crabs. Meanwhile, we've gotten stronger. Keep taking shots at us though - always easier to talk trash about the best than beat us on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yelling is fine if their is any actual intelligence, instruction, or something remotely positive or constructive in the feedback. Guy is the quintessential example of the ills of "daddyball". (and steakhead)

Please tell me you are not talking about the RVC guy. He occasionally has some salty language but that is sports. He is great with the kids and they all love playing for him. The "daddyball" comment is hilarious considering he has no kids on any of the teams he coaches...

That is a little weird, isn't it?

visor dad - come out from under the visor and tell us who you really are..

Madlax should not be talking trash on Looney's. Seriously

May the visor be with you

Every team has at least one Visor Dad.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Every team has at least one Visor Dad.....

Don't leave out "vest dad"

I would wear a visor if not for my bald head burning like bacon on Sunday morning.. is the original Visor dad an Indian or a Trojan?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

Speaking of WSYL, C2C is the team that lost 30-0 to Crush in Denver, a championship lacrosse record that may never be broken.

That C2C team was a regional/local team as WSYL did not take national teams. All players had to live within 50 miles of the locale.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

Speaking of WSYL, C2C is the team that lost 30-0 to Crush in Denver, a championship lacrosse record that may never be broken.

That C2C team was a regional/local team as WSYL did not take national teams. All players had to live within 50 miles of the locale.

Beside the hold back issue, that is the most pathetic excuse I have heard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Team 91 and the Crabs are missing, that MADLAX tournament is about as national as the WYSL was. A few interested teams that may be better than last year's version but come on.

2020 Division
Madlax Nationals 2020
Madlax All-Stars 2020
3D Nationals 2020
Palm Beach Revolution 2020
Team 24/7 2020
Team Florida 2020
C2C Nationals 2020

weak at best.

Wrongo. Madlax Nationals, 3D Nationals and C2C Nationals so far. Winner of this tournament can lay claim to being one of the Top 3 2020 teams in the nation, for sure.

Speaking of WSYL, C2C is the team that lost 30-0 to Crush in Denver, a championship lacrosse record that may never be broken.

That C2C team was a regional/local team as WSYL did not take national teams. All players had to live within 50 miles of the locale.

Beside the hold back issue, that is the most pathetic excuse I have heard.

I don't think the poster was trying to make excuse as much a point out that the team going to Madlax isn't the same one that went to the WSYL.

Who is Fedora Dad? We all know hoodie Dad...

Looks like the supposed best LI teams are scared to come down to the Madlax National Championship.

And the real remarkable thing about that score is how disgusting and unsportsmanlike it was to run up a score like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like the supposed best LI teams are scared to come down to the Madlax National Championship.

Yeah.......Ok.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is Fedora Dad? We all know hoodie Dad...

And all hail red solo cup dad who is omnipresent and attends every tournament

Madlax nationals hahahahah come on with that Long Island teams are not going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is Fedora Dad? We all know hoodie Dad...

And all hail red solo cup dad who is omnipresent and attends every tournament

Sneaking sips of their SeaBreezes!

Why you bringing fl$ into this with the seabreaze commment? LOL

We drinks tranfusions at Plandome

Red Solo Cup dad is at every tournament ever.

Visor Dad is easy to identify:

1. He always wears a visor of either the club team or some other lax related entity so everyone knows he's a lax guy;

2. Is one of the loudest on the sidelines.....but only cheers for his kid

3. Has his signature catch phrases .... (yeah baby, good look, ba'am, etc.) but again usually only reserved for plays made by his kid

4. Talks like a tough guy but is a huge deal maker behind the scenes

5. Lives vicariously through his kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax nationals hahahahah come on with that Long Island teams are not going.

Keep laughing. We have more 2018 commits than anyone. Same with 2019. Soon to be with our 2020s.

Does visor dad have a favorite number somewhere between DELETED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does visor dad have a favorite number somewhere between DELETED?

don't know, ask him, his son plays DELETED

Some prefer southsides...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does visor dad have a favorite number somewhere between DELETED

don't know, ask him, his son plays for 2020

DELETED 2020 per their roster.

Are you serious????

I abhor punks that call out the kids. Shame on you!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We drinks tranfusions at Plandome

Correction, we drink everything at Plandome...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does visor dad have a favorite number somewhere
between DELETED

The above was a reference to a Team name, not a jersey number

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some prefer southsides...

With a dark rum floater...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does visor dad have a favorite number somewhere
between DELETED

The above was a reference to a Team name, not a jersey number

You are full of crap!!! It pointed to the players jersey number being between two numbers. Knock it off. Leave the team name out of it too. Grow up!!

It looked like a reference to a DELETED coach. Either way move on to other topics, its really getting played out.

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Certainly smells bad doesn't it. That's a lot of cash to fork over for a camp. Including airfare, hotels, food, car rental etc....well over $1,500.00 at a minimum. For what?

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Certainly smells bad doesn't it. That's a lot of cash to fork over for a camp. Including airfare, hotels, food, car rental etc....well over $1,500.00 at a minimum. For what?

Not to mention that your son will also have to miss school to attend. I seriously don't understand why ANYONE would even consider it. I will say that a bunch of my son's teammates went last year and I will bet some are going this year too. We have a rule at our house, and that rule is, we will NOT pay to get recruited. If my son doesn't get noticed then he will walk on to the school that he decides to attend!! If he makes it he makes it and if he doesn't then he plays club. I am not sure I undertand why so many people are so wrapped up with the idea that if their son doesn't get recruited in the next 15 months by an ACC or Ivy school that they are somehow a failure as a lacrosse player. I don't get it. My son loves to play and this is why he plays travel, not because he wants to be recruited. Again, are we the only people that feel this way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

,,,,,, are we the only people that feel this way?

No

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Like anything else. Go, or don't go.If you aren't interested don't bash others that do go. Maybe their boys will get invites to jake reed and possibly get offers down the road because of it.

Certainly smells bad doesn't it. That's a lot of cash to fork over for a camp. Including airfare, hotels, food, car rental etc....well over $1,500.00 at a minimum. For what?

Not to mention that your son will also have to miss school to attend. I seriously don't understand why ANYONE would even consider it. I will say that a bunch of my son's teammates went last year and I will bet some are going this year too. We have a rule at our house, and that rule is, we will NOT pay to get recruited. If my son doesn't get noticed then he will walk on to the school that he decides to attend!! If he makes it he makes it and if he doesn't then he plays club. I am not sure I undertand why so many people are so wrapped up with the idea that if their son doesn't get recruited in the next 15 months by an ACC or Ivy school that they are somehow a failure as a lacrosse player. I don't get it. My son loves to play and this is why he plays travel, not because he wants to be recruited. Again, are we the only people that feel this way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Certainly smells bad doesn't it. That's a lot of cash to fork over for a camp. Including airfare, hotels, food, car rental etc....well over $1,500.00 at a minimum. For what?

Not to mention that your son will also have to miss school to attend. I seriously don't understand why ANYONE would even consider it. I will say that a bunch of my son's teammates went last year and I will bet some are going this year too. We have a rule at our house, and that rule is, we will NOT pay to get recruited. If my son doesn't get noticed then he will walk on to the school that he decides to attend!! If he makes it he makes it and if he doesn't then he plays club. I am not sure I undertand why so many people are so wrapped up with the idea that if their son doesn't get recruited in the next 15 months by an ACC or Ivy school that they are somehow a failure as a lacrosse player. I don't get it. My son loves to play and this is why he plays travel, not because he wants to be recruited. Again, are we the only people that feel this way?

All of these lacrosse camps, clubs, showcases, etc. are profit centers and because you get a lot of college coaches attending to observe/recruit, it all works. Not sure why you all care so much what others do, ask around and see how much your friends pay to tutors, SAT prep courses, etc. Or go to Canada and see how much time and money those families invest in their kids' hockey activities. If it makes your kid happy, then spend away and attend away, lacrosse is a great sport and you have a legitimate chance of getting into a better college coming off Long Island as a strong lax player so it makes sense to me why people do all this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is up with 3D Blue Chip? My son has gotten 4 invites to the camp in FL. We haven't responded to any of them, but I am now noticing that the only way to play in the Jake Reed Showcase is to co through this camp (for the 2020 year). Now you can obviously see it is a money grab. My son is not going, but I seriously wonder why people think it is a good idea to spend all of that money for a "camp" in Florida? Am I the only person out there that thinks that is just plain crazy?

Certainly smells bad doesn't it. That's a lot of cash to fork over for a camp. Including airfare, hotels, food, car rental etc....well over $1,500.00 at a minimum. For what?

Not to mention that your son will also have to miss school to attend. I seriously don't understand why ANYONE would even consider it. I will say that a bunch of my son's teammates went last year and I will bet some are going this year too. We have a rule at our house, and that rule is, we will NOT pay to get recruited. If my son doesn't get noticed then he will walk on to the school that he decides to attend!! If he makes it he makes it and if he doesn't then he plays club. I am not sure I undertand why so many people are so wrapped up with the idea that if their son doesn't get recruited in the next 15 months by an ACC or Ivy school that they are somehow a failure as a lacrosse player. I don't get it. My son loves to play and this is why he plays travel, not because he wants to be recruited. Again, are we the only people that feel this way?

My son is a 2020 who has been invited to the Florida Jake Reed and is not going. I agree that particular event seems overpriced and overhyped but I disagree on the rule that you "won't pay to get recruited". The reality is that lacrosse can help your son get into a better academic school than he would otherwise. College costs between $100-250k depending on the school. Spending some money on recruiting to try to get the best value for that expense makes sense. The fact that he would get to play the sport he loves is a bonus. Also Google notre dame lacrosse internships and look at what type of job prospects those players have. Players from other similar quality schools have similar opportunities. The extra income and life opportunities from those networks are worth far more than the money paid on inflated camp and club fees.
The other reality is that at some of these schools great act's and great grades are not enough. If lacrosse can be the hook to get you in a great academic school why wouldn't you invest time and money in it just like you would an sat tutor.

Jake Reed will get your son exposure, but at a steep price. I suggest trying out for UA All American Underclass as a freshman. 2 days in front of a ton of college coaches at a fraction of the cost. Call the tryouts political if you want but you can't argue that there are a lot of coaches on the sidelines. Play well and your son will get noticed.

I am beginning to feel the same way about this whole recruiting process. I have a 2018 that I have been told and I believe is a mid level D1 player. I feel this has really become a money grab on so many levels. Dislike these showcase / recruiting events in which there is no playoff or championship game. What happened to playing to win and winning because you are good? Too much of a pay as you go process. If he is good enough to be noticed great, if not, he can try to walk-on! Why does HS club lacrosse cost more than youth club lacrosse? There are no spring practices and spring leagues for the HS teams, yet it costs more???

I heard that Express was down 5-2 late in the second half of the 91MD game and they benefitted from several penalties to tie the game up. Express seems to be in the middle of the pack now. They have that really good FO guy that was hurt that weekend though. Seems like there are several really strong teams at the top. Crush, Looney's and Crabs seem to be the teams to beat. Crabs are loaded with single and double hold backs though. At least all the other teams play fair for the most part. It should be a fun year watching how it all shakes out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am beginning to feel the same way about this whole recruiting process. I have a 2018 that I have been told and I believe is a mid level D1 player. I feel this has really become a money grab on so many levels. Dislike these showcase / recruiting events in which there is no playoff or championship game. What happened to playing to win and winning because you are good? Too much of a pay as you go process. If he is good enough to be noticed great, if not, he can try to walk-on! Why does HS club lacrosse cost more than youth club lacrosse? There are no spring practices and spring leagues for the HS teams, yet it costs more???

If you feel there is no value, then just do prospect days and hope for the best. He might get seen, he might not. What your paying for with a good club organization is access to the coaches that you as apparent cannot get. The good clubs have many coaches cell phone numbers and can reach out and get real feedback about your son. They can be the heavy in an offer negotiation. They can also pressure a College to do the right thing towards their player, less they direct the next stud elsewhere. Winning games is great, don't get me wrong. However, having a organization behind your son's recruiting effort is far more important. Just our experience.

Express 2020 will have a very difficult time this year, many teams have caught up with them if not passed them by . They still are a good team but they are not second to Crush anymore, they are just an average team now . They lost talent from last year and never replaced it . Good luck to all the 2020 teams this year .

You forgot Hawks, 91 MD teams!

91MD 2020 Force plays Hawks 2020 this Sunday, so we'll see how they measure up against each other soon.

That was the best post I have seen in a very long time. I completely agree! Who F'ing cares about the money grab BS. Its a game that our boys need to enjoy and not be pressured as to where they are going to college as a 14 yr old young man. How can we even justify thinking about what college is looking at them when they have not even stepped on a HS campus???? Its insane to be even talking about it. Play the game that will lead to friendships for life and it will open doors for them at every turn. Its just a game that will not pay anything in adulthood unless he is the next Rabil, Millon or Gait.

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Let them take their SAT's and then talk about what college they are going to. Even a great lacrosse player must look something like this to go IVY. Most students who got into Ivy had GPAs close to a 4.0, SAT scores (CR+M+W) above 2100, and ACT composite scores above 30. And you better have more than just sports on those applications.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020 will have a very difficult time this year, many teams have caught up with them if not passed them by . They still are a good team but they are not second to Crush anymore, they are just an average team now . They lost talent from last year and never replaced it . Good luck to all the 2020 teams this year .

Where did the talent from last year go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020 will have a very difficult time this year, many teams have caught up with them if not passed them by . They still are a good team but they are not second to Crush anymore, they are just an average team now . They lost talent from last year and never replaced it . Good luck to all the 2020 teams this year .

We'll see, core of team still there and some upgrades were brought in

some cancers too...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

some cancers too...

and coaches

Travel Parents should say a prayer of thanks every day that inner-city kids have not taken to lax...its all over once that happens....as you said, the country-club price tag is only thing keeping your kids from lax sports obscurity. Wow, did I just go there with the whole socio-income topic?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel Parents should say a prayer of thanks every day that inner-city kids have not taken to lax...its all over once that happens....as you said, the country-club price tag is only thing keeping your kids from lax sports obscurity. Wow, did I just go there with the whole socio-income topic?

not true, people have been saying this for years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel Parents should say a prayer of thanks every day that inner-city kids have not taken to lax...its all over once that happens....as you said, the country-club price tag is only thing keeping your kids from lax sports obscurity. Wow, did I just go there with the whole socio-income topic?

Ok there Racist... I guess you follow the ole Jimmy the Greek theory. You have got to be kidding dude. Inner city kids are good at inner city games like basketball, because they play it from the time they can walk, all day, everyday, day in and day out. Oh, and for you multi-sport nuts: They don't get better at Basketball by playing Lax in the spring... They play more Basketball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel Parents should say a prayer of thanks every day that inner-city kids have not taken to lax...its all over once that happens....as you said, the country-club price tag is only thing keeping your kids from lax sports obscurity. Wow, did I just go there with the whole socio-income topic?

if they wanted to play there is still rec programs. besides, most of the 16 year old private school 8th graders will be able to beat the on age 13/14 year old public school kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Travel Parents should say a prayer of thanks every day that inner-city kids have not taken to lax...its all over once that happens....as you said, the country-club price tag is only thing keeping your kids from lax sports obscurity. Wow, did I just go there with the whole socio-income topic?

I agree! And even more disgraceful is US lacrosse claiming they are "growing the game " in less affluent areas. Then they throw these kids our there with cheating holdbacks. One day the field will even out. Then the trust fund kids can go back to being busy at being busy!

You guys sure like complaining about things. Meanwhile, all of our kids are getting recruited.

LOL!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys sure like complaining about things. Meanwhile, all of our kids are getting recruited.

LOL!

Good luck graduating from college at 24, dope... If all goes well. If not, maybe 25 or 26. Nothing like a little gray at the temples when getting your BA/BS... Now that's LOL.

you mean older?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you mean older?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Saw Crush last weekend in Maryland playing 2019. They looked very strong against much older kids. Those boys are not big but are so smart and play big. I do not see their demise anytime soon. Just my two cents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you mean older?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Saw Crush last weekend in Maryland playing 2019. They looked very strong against much older kids. Those boys are not big but are so smart and play big. I do not see their demise anytime soon. Just my two cents

what teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Do yoy mean bigger, faster and MUCH MUCH OLDER, you know the kind of kid who graduates college when they ARE 25. The hold back issue has been beat to death 1000 times over, but if you hold back for lax you are a looser period, and stop with the academic and maturity stuff people do it for lax.

Crush played at Terrapin Classic. They played up a grade, not against kids "much older". And they were not impressive. The Turtles were impressive when they played older teams. This Crush team isn't in that same class.

Madlax 2020 is going to shut up all the haters this weekend. Book it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is going to shut up all the haters this weekend. Book it.

stfu, and let things settle themselves out on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Do yoy mean bigger, faster and MUCH MUCH OLDER, you know the kind of kid who graduates college when they ARE 25. The hold back issue has been beat to death 1000 times over, but if you hold back for lax you are a looser period, and stop with the academic and maturity stuff people do it for lax.

Lax isn't the only sport things like this happen. many people want lax to follow what hockey does age wise. Look at many of your D-1 hockey programs they are loaded with older players. After high school, many D-1 hockey players play 2 years in a junior B program before going onto college. Making them 20 when they enter college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played at Terrapin Classic. They played up a grade, not against kids "much older". And they were not impressive. The Turtles were impressive when they played older teams. This Crush team isn't in that same class.

Turtles not that impressive they began fading in 8th, as they stopped playing up then. Now they have been surpassed by better athletes. Do you need to be reminded of their performance last summer. Please stop! Whether the same fate awaits for Crush? Only time will tell. At least they still play up even with the holdback epidemic that didn't exist at this extent when Turtles stopped playing up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played at Terrapin Classic. They played up a grade, not against kids "much older". And they were not impressive. The Turtles were impressive when they played older teams. This Crush team isn't in that same class.

how did they do? who did they play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is going to shut up all the haters this weekend. Book it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is going to shut up all the haters this weekend. Book it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is going to shut up all the haters this weekend. Book it.

Madlax doesn't even belong in any convo. Next level is better. Madlax loses by 10 every game

Toughs to compare the dominance of the Turtles and Crush. First of all comparing any team to another in different age groups is impossible When the turtles dominated it was NOT during the era of the holdback as now exists w Crush. Either way teams like the a turtles and Crush do not come along very often instead of people tearing at them we should enjoy it

LOL. Crush at this age wasn't half the team the Turtles were. Not even close. They have multiples studs at every position. Crush has 5 stars and the rest are role players. At least that's the way they are coached.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Crush at this age wasn't half the team the Turtles were. Not even close. They have multiples studs at every position. Crush has 5 stars and the rest are role players. At least that's the way they are coached.

If Crush isn't half the team that the Turtles were, what does that say about the rest of the 2020 youth teams- ouch?!

If a team has readily beat teams across the country by 10 plus goals, then one must infer that the rest of 2020 isn't half as good as the teams were when 2017 group played.

As a previous post stated- hard to compare when the landscape of lax was much different. In either case- I'd say both teams dominated youth lacrosse for years and that in and of itself is to be applauded. I doubt anyone really cares from either team how they stack up to one another. Crazy that grown adults have time enough to analyze youth teams over various years for their enjoyment. The biggest comparison anyone sees now is how sad and pathetic the parents have become over the years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Crush at this age wasn't half the team the Turtles were. Not even close. They have multiples studs at every position. Crush has 5 stars and the rest are role players. At least that's the way they are coached.

Turtles, like Crush have about 5 players who are elite, also similar to crush, the remainder of the team are highly skilled players able to contribute to a successful outcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Do yoy mean bigger, faster and MUCH MUCH OLDER, you know the kind of kid who graduates college when they ARE 25. The hold back issue has been beat to death 1000 times over, but if you hold back for lax you are a looser period, and stop with the academic and maturity stuff people do it for lax.

Lax isn't the only sport things like this happen. many people want lax to follow what hockey does age wise. Look at many of your D-1 hockey programs they are loaded with older players. After high school, many D-1 hockey players play 2 years in a junior B program before going onto college. Making them 20 when they enter college.

Irrelevant. The difference between 20 and 22 is minimal, if anything, compared to the difference between 13 and 15.

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Do yoy mean bigger, faster and MUCH MUCH OLDER, you know the kind of kid who graduates college when they ARE 25. The hold back issue has been beat to death 1000 times over, but if you hold back for lax you are a looser period, and stop with the academic and maturity stuff people do it for lax.

Lax isn't the only sport things like this happen. many people want lax to follow what hockey does age wise. Look at many of your D-1 hockey programs they are loaded with older players. After high school, many D-1 hockey players play 2 years in a junior B program before going onto college. Making them 20 when they enter college.

Irrelevant. The difference between 20 and 22 is minimal, if anything, compared to the difference between 13 and 15.

There is a difference between 18 and 20 though!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Similarly, Crush will be surpassed this year by several teams with bigger, faster athletes.

Do yoy mean bigger, faster and MUCH MUCH OLDER, you know the kind of kid who graduates college when they ARE 25. The hold back issue has been beat to death 1000 times over, but if you hold back for lax you are a looser period, and stop with the academic and maturity stuff people do it for lax.

Lax isn't the only sport things like this happen. many people want lax to follow what hockey does age wise. Look at many of your D-1 hockey programs they are loaded with older players. After high school, many D-1 hockey players play 2 years in a junior B program before going onto college. Making them 20 when they enter college.

Irrelevant. The difference between 20 and 22 is minimal, if anything, compared to the difference between 13 and 15.

In hockey, you can't be a hold back and play with younger players. In tier I (the top level), it's all birth year regardless what grade you're in. Once you hit juniors, some kids are 16 and others are 20, but the 16 year olds are generally stars and are playing up to get better competition. Plus, everyone knows your birthdate. No one is fooling anyone.

Very different from lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

All boys on Turtles not D1. And they lost early on in US lacrosse u15 games. The only reason why some Crush boys don't get recruited will be because JS favors some over others. All the boys are great players but some will continue to get a free pass even as their dominance slips.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Agree 100%
Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

All boys on Turtles not D1. And they lost early on in US lacrosse u15 games. The only reason why some Crush boys don't get recruited will be because JS favors some over others. All the boys are great players but some will continue to get a free pass even as their dominance slips.

Why did Crush play on age at yale, even having a little trouble with Tomahawks? While all the better teams are down in MD? Afraid of the Looneys and Crabs maybe? It's a comming!!

I think it's a more practical reason. 91 Wolfpack (2023) was playing at Yale. J Spallina coaches that too and so was probably convenient to have Crush also be there and play as well.

Yeahhhhhhhh afraid hah they were down in Maryland last week playing in Terp Classic Looneys 7-6 w Freedom haha Crabs how did Denver go. My advice keep tying because this is the only place Crush loses in 2020 is on this page

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it's a more practical reason. 91 Wolfpack (2023) was playing at Yale. J Spallina coaches that too and so was probably convenient to have Crush also be there and play as well.

I don't think the kids pay big money for JS convenience! Waste 9f time, although they were exposed as somewhat weak in the last game. Guess they didn�t expect that.

I do think that is why they were there. Though, correct that Crush only beat NH Tomahawks 6-3. Pretty tight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do think that is why they were there. Though, correct that Crush only beat NH Tomahawks 6-3. Pretty tight.

Tight is right, Crush is ripe for a good shalacking. What goes up must come down. That's a law Ya know

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

All boys on Turtles not D1. And they lost early on in US lacrosse u15 games. The only reason why some Crush boys don't get recruited will be because JS favors some over others. All the boys are great players but some will continue to get a free pass even as their dominance slips.

All DI, not even debatable. Who gives a crap about U-15 or any other youth title. It's about getting recruited, period. When the top Crush kids get recruited let's see if they stick together like the Turtles did until EVERYONE is recruited. After that who cares what they do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK Crush Clown. Turles played a complete team game with everyone playing . Unlike your team that is centered around 5 kids. That's the facts

Ok Turtle lover. Turtles were unable to be successful playing up in 8th grade. They also didn't beat teams by the same margin. Watched them play many times. They are a skilled bunch who found a way to win in many close games. They were also beat down last summer playing their own age group. Half the Turtle team not committed and only a handful committed to top schoolsc. They are/were a very good and successful team, but no better than Crush.

Turtles played up in 8th grade very successfully and played same grade in 9th because that's where the coaches were recruiting. Regardless all boys committed to DI and that's the litmus test for the crush.

All boys on Turtles not D1. And they lost early on in US lacrosse u15 games. The only reason why some Crush boys don't get recruited will be because JS favors some over others. All the boys are great players but some will continue to get a free pass even as their dominance slips.

All DI, not even debatable. Who gives a crap about U-15 or any other youth title. It's about getting recruited, period. When the top Crush kids get recruited let's see if they stick together like the Turtles did until EVERYONE is recruited. After that who cares what they do.

There are Turtles that got kicked to the curve and never were recruited. That being said, Crush daddy coaches, 4-5 to be conservative, have only their own sons interests in mind.

Having seen both the Turtles and Crush at this age, this debate is laughable. Turtles were far superior skill wise and athletically at this age.

Not even close.

[quote=Anonymous]Having seen both the Turtles and Crush at this age, this debate is laughable. Turtles were far superior skill wise and athletically at this age.

Not even close. [/quote

Having seen both as well I agree with it being laughable but think with the evolution of the game Crush is far superior.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Having seen both the Turtles and Crush at this age, this debate is laughable. Turtles were far superior skill wise and athletically at this age.

Not even close. [/quote

Having seen both as well I agree with it being laughable but think with the evolution of the game Crush is far superior.

What "evolution of the game"? The timelines may have changed significantly, but the game itself really hasn't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Having seen both the Turtles and Crush at this age, this debate is laughable. Turtles were far superior skill wise and athletically at this age.

Not even close. [/quote

Having seen both as well I agree with it being laughable but think with the evolution of the game Crush is far superior.

What "evolution of the game"? The timelines may have changed significantly, but the game itself really hasn't.

I hear they aren't using wooden sticks anymore!

Such a dumb discussion that can never be settled. Who cares

When Madlax puts a beatdown on Looney's tomorrow, I expect to see all of you here eating some crow.

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

Top 3 LI Teams better than top three Maryland teams

8-3. I was there. Saw it. Crush played sloppy, the score could've been a lot higher. Tomahawks however, were a very skilled team with big athletes. I think they can give Looneys, Crabs, etc a run for their money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

8-3. I was there. Saw it. Crush played sloppy, the score could've been a lot higher. Tomahawks however, were a very skilled team with big athletes. I think they can give Looneys, Crabs, etc a run for their money.

What was up with the scores- all were off. Did they just stop keeping track after a bit? Heard Tomahawks looked really good though. Nice to add another great team to the mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 3 LI Teams better than top three Maryland teams

Besides Crush, who are the top 2020 Long Island teams and when/where did they play the top three Maryland teams to support this statement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Watched the Crush team this weekend, enjoyed watching them. Very skilled players. My question is that they are 8th graders? There are some Hugh kids on that team, 6 footers easy. Don't get me wrong there were a few kids that looked like they were 8th graders but a few of them were big. Thank goodness my kid is a year younger, would not put my kid on the same field as those kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Watched the Crush team this weekend, enjoyed watching them. Very skilled players. My question is that they are 8th graders? There are some Hugh kids on that team, 6 footers easy. Don't get me wrong there were a few kids that looked like they were 8th graders but a few of them were big. Thank goodness my kid is a year younger, would not put my kid on the same field as those kids.

That's because Crush now has several holdbacks. Ironically they continue to call out other teams for doing the same thing. Strange?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Actually the highest bracket was 2020 yesterday. The HS teams play today. Many 2019 teams don't want to play against. 2020 teams. This is a recruiting tourney for the older kids and they prefer to play their peers or older kids.

What teams did your kid play against? Have you played the team they lost to? Until you do, mighty confident that they are a weak team. When you play them, get back to us.

The score was 8-3. I guess any team could lose any game- is that your point?Yes everything counts, but in the end- the kids with the best grades and skills are the winners. They will go the farthest. I don't think anyone will really care about a Fall Sat 2020 tourney in 8th gr- do you?!?! If you do, please tell us about your kids team, rather than criticizing others. Do tell...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Actually the highest bracket was 2020 yesterday. The HS teams play today. Many 2019 teams don't want to play against. 2020 teams. This is a recruiting tourney for the older kids and they prefer to play their peers or older kids.

What teams did your kid play against? Have you played the team they lost to? Until you do, mighty confident that they are a weak team. When you play them, get back to us.

The score was 8-3. I guess any team could lose any game- is that your point?Yes everything counts, but in the end- the kids with the best grades and skills are the winners. They will go the farthest. I don't think anyone will really care about a Fall Sat 2020 tourney in 8th gr- do you?!?! If you do, please tell us about your kids team, rather than criticizing others. Do tell...

Exactly! They should have played today! Since when are they concerned about who other teams want to play. Or is the schedule revolving around what is convenient for the coach? Either way, just doesn't look like Crush is challenging themselves too much this fall.

When8-3 wins are criticized it actually shows your respect for them, so think out your approach more looneys beat Freedom 7-6 last weekend we all know what happened to the crabs once 91 was focused on them. As far as Terp classic almost EVERY team that was there Saturday was there Sunday minus Crush and 91 19's exchanging spots . And all the top 2020 teams are in Maryland minus Crush and express 91 Maryland, FCA and sons you my friend are mistaken . It's a real 2020 when CRUSH and express are there otherwise it's the consolation cup

Funny when exactly has the Autumn classic become a must attend event lolollool joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When8-3 wins are criticized it actually shows your respect for them, so think out your approach more looneys beat Freedom 7-6 last weekend we all know what happened to the crabs once 91 was focused on them. As far as Terp classic almost EVERY team that was there Saturday was there Sunday minus Crush and 91 19's exchanging spots . And all the top 2020 teams are in Maryland minus Crush and express 91 Maryland, FCA and sons you my friend are mistaken . It's a real 2020 when CRUSH and express are there otherwise it's the consolation cup

Haha, Crush is afraid to play Looneys and everyone knows it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When8-3 wins are criticized it actually shows your respect for them, so think out your approach more looneys beat Freedom 7-6 last weekend we all know what happened to the crabs once 91 was focused on them. As far as Terp classic almost EVERY team that was there Saturday was there Sunday minus Crush and 91 19's exchanging spots . And all the top 2020 teams are in Maryland minus Crush and express 91 Maryland, FCA and sons you my friend are mistaken . It's a real 2020 when CRUSH and express are there otherwise it's the consolation cup [/

Haha, Crush is afraid to play Looneys and everyone knows it!

Where were they last week- they could have, should have played against 2019 teams if they are SOOOOO good. Heck- they should have played on Sunday if that is where they belong. I do not see them there either. Hmmm...

When a team plays another team 15 plus times albeit a few close games and wins 15 plus times. Fear isn't what comes to mind

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a team plays another team 15 plus times albeit a few close games and wins 15 plus times. Fear isn't what comes to mind

Looneys are a whole new team now and Crush knows it and so do you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]When a team plays another team 15 plus times albeit a few close games and wins 15 plus times. Fear isn't what comes to mind

Looneys are a whole new team now and Crush knows it and so do you! [/quote}

Looney's only accomplishment is the ability of one the parents to trash on a message board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Watched the Crush team this weekend, enjoyed watching them. Very skilled players. My question is that they are 8th graders? There are some Hugh kids on that team, 6 footers easy. Don't get me wrong there were a few kids that looked like they were 8th graders but a few of them were big. Thank goodness my kid is a year younger, would not put my kid on the same field as those kids.

That's because Crush now has several holdbacks. Ironically they continue to call out other teams for doing the same thing. Strange?

Funny how people comment on something they know nothing about, either they don't care to know or just make something up (lie) to try and make a point. Crush has 2 hold backs who are on the smaller side with 1 of the 2 being a defenseman who is a complete non factor and shouldn't be on the team.

Madlax=Joke!!

Mad lax the third best 2020 team? Hahaha

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

Loonies beat Edge 9-1. Game had to be cancelled with 2 minutes left due to Edge dirty play. Edge parents, coaches and kids are the worst I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

What happened to the almighty Legacy team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush played age in Yale because there was no others division to play in there. All the games were 30 minute running time games... Crush won big against the first three
(They won by 15+) and the last game they won 9-3.
1) The games were only 30 minutes, the score could've easily been higher
2) If you did your "research" you would know they played up last week in Maryland
3) It's Fall Ball

1. Crush could have played up in the 9th grade division, but instead played teams that were weak in 2020 dovision, while all the top 2020 teams are playing this weekend in MD
2. When Crush played up last weekend, they played weak 2019 on Saturday, and we're beat by one of them. The better 2019 teams played that tournament on Sunday.
3.The last game was 7-3. Crush could have lost that one.
4 Fall, spring, summer, everything counts!

Watched the Crush team this weekend, enjoyed watching them. Very skilled players. My question is that they are 8th graders? There are some Hugh kids on that team, 6 footers easy. Don't get me wrong there were a few kids that looked like they were 8th graders but a few of them were big. Thank goodness my kid is a year younger, would not put my kid on the same field as those kids.

That's because Crush now has several holdbacks. Ironically they continue to call out other teams for doing the same thing. Strange?

Funny how people comment on something they know nothing about, either they don't care to know or just make something up (lie) to try and make a point. Crush has 2 hold backs who are on the smaller side with 1 of the 2 being a defenseman who is a complete non factor and shouldn't be on the team.

Big, small, rich, poor, if it walks like a hold back and talks like a holdback and can't Excell at its I own proper age group, it's a cheating holdback. Crush needs to admit they are no better than the other teams they have trash talked about. JS on a supposed crusade to stop this? Needs to start in own backyard!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies beat Edge 9-1. Game had to be cancelled with 2 minutes left due to Edge dirty play. Edge parents, coaches and kids are the worst I've ever seen.

What's the difference between edge and leading edge?

Crabs has two middies that are 6,2" and are 15 turning 16 and in the eighth grade. Looks embarrassing watching them play, how do their parents not see how ridiculous it looks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

MrCrab

19-8 espn good night

You cheated today and we still almost got you crush will smack you again

Where is madlax guy tonight...mr. Take it to the bank....
It was a real spanking...
Can you spell shutout?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs has two middies that are 6,2" and are 15 turning 16 and in the eighth grade. Looks embarrassing watching them play, how do their parents not see how ridiculous it looks?

PATHETIC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies beat Edge 9-1. Game had to be cancelled with 2 minutes left due to Edge dirty play. Edge parents, coaches and kids are the worst I've ever seen.

What's the difference between edge and leading edge?

Edge always lives down to expectations. Would be nice if some US tournaments said "no thanks, stay home, we don't need that here"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

Yup, best 9th grade team in all of 2020.

Hawks v 91 MD - tied 5-5. Good game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs has two middies that are 6,2" and are 15 turning 16 and in the eighth grade. Looks embarrassing watching them play, how do their parents not see how ridiculous it looks?

PATHETIC.

It is pathetic, but unfortunately it's here to stay. Personally I would be embarrassed for myself and my son. The only way it would ever stop is if college coaches came out against it, which is unlikely, or if there was ever a successful massive personal injury litigation. US Lacrosse is a useless entity and is only good at collecting their annual fee.

Edge game was wild...Looneys passing and cutting....Edge became a nasty bunch.
They need the long ride home to cool off.

Madlax finishes 2-1 today. Only loss was due to some questionable officiating that changed the game. Seems to happen a lot whenever we play in MD and they use Baltimore officials.

I wonder why that is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

- Madlax and VLC not nearly as good as they thought they were.
- Looneys need to figure out how to beat Crabs before they can trash talk about Crush
- Edge is a dirty team (actually we knew that already, today just confirmed it)

Uh....maybe not....it was a shutout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

What happened to the almighty Legacy team?

Legacy did well, where were the Crush? Hiding at Yale?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax=Joke!!

Sheesh dude take it easy. Your mission to trash them is duly noted. No need to trash a team that is above average but not on top. Grind your axe elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax finishes 2-1 today. Only loss was due to some questionable officiating that changed the game. Seems to happen a lot whenever we play in MD and they use Baltimore officials.

I wonder why that is?

Wow, a 10 to 0 loss by Madlax was due to questionable officiating that changed the game. Don't know what game you were watching or if you know lax rules etc but you just got your butt kicked, plain and simple. The team that beat you finished their three games with 35GF vs 3 GA. Madlax three games 16GF vs. 15GA. Madlax is no where close to a superior 2020 team, not even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax finishes 2-1 today. Only loss was due to some questionable officiating that changed the game. Seems to happen a lot whenever we play in MD and they use Baltimore officials.

I wonder why that is?

Wow, a 10 to 0 loss by Madlax was due to questionable officiating that changed the game. Don't know what game you were watching or if you know lax rules etc but you just got your butt kicked, plain and simple. The team that beat you finished their three games with 35GF vs 3 GA. Madlax three games 16GF vs. 15GA. Madlax is no where close to a superior 2020 team, not even close.

The team that beat us didn't win the championship either. Neither of us did, so you can settle down now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same 9th grade Crabs team that beat Crush just beat th Loonies in the championship 6-4. Crabs are #1 in the country!

What happened to the almighty Legacy team?

Legacy did well, where were the Crush? Hiding at Yale?

Looks like Legacy was pushed out of playoffs by GAA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax=Joke!!

Mad lax couldn't beat the second teams for 91 MD, FCA, or Looney's.

When you lose 10-0 it's not the officials! Stop telling your kids they would have won with different refs. Just tell them good game, work more and harder at home and you will probably see them again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs has two middies that are 6,2" and are 15 turning 16 and in the eighth grade. Looks embarrassing watching them play, how do their parents not see how ridiculous it looks?

And a 6'2" attack man who held back that looks equally ridiculous. Mommy and daddy buying them all the privilege of thinking they are better than the kids they are a year or two older than. These three are not the only holdbacks on that team-they just look the silliest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge game was wild...Looneys passing and cutting....Edge became a nasty bunch.
They need the long ride home to cool off.

Seen that before with the Edge team. Why do US organizers still allow the Canadian teams entry? Evolve is just as bad as Edge and should not be allowed to play here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When8-3 wins are criticized it actually shows your respect for them, so think out your approach more looneys beat Freedom 7-6 last weekend we all know what happened to the crabs once 91 was focused on them. As far as Terp classic almost EVERY team that was there Saturday was there Sunday minus Crush and 91 19's exchanging spots . And all the top 2020 teams are in Maryland minus Crush and express 91 Maryland, FCA and sons you my friend are mistaken . It's a real 2020 when CRUSH and express are there otherwise it's the consolation cup

Crush agree. Express did not impress last weekend in PA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

They added 4 RRs to the Orange and 1 to the green. They are not seeing much playing time and did not replace any Looneys players. Most highly rated teams in area would not have taken them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

They added 4 RRs to the Orange and 1 to the green. They are not seeing much playing time and did not replace any Looneys players. Most highly rated teams in area would not have taken them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

They added 4 RRs to the Orange and 1 to the green. They are not seeing much playing time and did not replace any Looneys players. Most highly rated teams in area would not have taken them.

The RR on the Looney's green is a great pickup and sees his fair share of playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

They added 4 RRs to the Orange and 1 to the green. They are not seeing much playing time and did not replace any Looneys players. Most highly rated teams in area would not have taken them.

Ouch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Looney lax dad you added two players from a poor rough rider team. Please tell everyone about the 7-6 Fredom game bahahahaha

What team are you affiliated with? Rough Riders finished 5 and 1 in the MYLA last spring, loosing only to Looney's. Wouldn't call that too poor. And you are wrong, Looney's added five players from Rough Riders. That's sometimes the problem with these boards, people state things without all the correct facts. As far as Crabs 2020 goes, the most disgusting
head coach and program in all of club lacrosse. Also agree with another posted, these tournaments in the US, they should tell Edge to just stay home until they clean up their act.

They added 4 RRs to the Orange and 1 to the green. They are not seeing much playing time and did not replace any Looneys players. Most highly rated teams in area would not have taken them.

Ouch.

Well, maybe that's why Looney's is top 3 in the state! They see things in players other clubs don't. The RR kids are all contributing to the success of their team.

Of the four added to Orange, two are running second midfield and have been all fall. There are several high rated teams that would like to have them except maybe Crabs as the four are all age appropriate, which doesn't fit Crabs thinking

The fact that you guys are now breaking down 8th grade boys teams to individual boys is pathetic. You guys have nothing better to do than analyze who is on the 2nd line, who is contributing, etc?

Weird.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you guys are now breaking down 8th grade boys teams to individual boys is pathetic. You guys have nothing better to do than analyze who is on the 2nd line, who is contributing, etc?

Weird.

Very wierd...along with the U11 glory days pictures.

The referee's lost control of the game. Guy calls a crease violation twice from 150 ft on the worst field we have ever seen. Still Looney's kicked our butts and are a very good complete well coached team. Had to laugh at the comment banning us from your tournament's. We get invited all over the place as its unique to get Canadian teams to play. We drive upwards of 10 hours and get so little respect. We have lots of kids involved in hockey this time of year but have already been invited to the Crabs tourney Jul 8-10/2016 so good luck with the rest of your seasons and see you in 2016. Edge lacrosse.

LOL @ Looney's. You can fool others who weren't at the game, but we all know that score wasn't indicative of the game and the refs made/missed several calls that would have changed things.

By the way, you guys have some of the most redneck fans. I actually heard during our game some grandmothers talking about THEIR fantasy football teams. Typical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you guys are now breaking down 8th grade boys teams to individual boys is pathetic. You guys have nothing better to do than analyze who is on the 2nd line, who is contributing, etc?

Weird.

it is path ic when people say "most top teams wouldn't take" or "doesn't play" when they have no idea and are lying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL @ Looney's. You can fool others who weren't at the game, but we all know that score wasn't indicative of the game and the refs made/missed several calls that would have changed things.

By the way, you guys have some of the most redneck fans. I actually heard during our game some grandmothers talking about THEIR fantasy football teams. Typical.

Grandmothers playing fantasy football = awesome
Blaming refs for loss = lame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grandmothers playing fantasy football = awesome

That's what I would expect from DELETED Looney's parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL @ Looney's. You can fool others who weren't at the game, but we all know that score wasn't indicative of the game and the refs made/missed several calls that would have changed things.

By the way, you guys have some of the most redneck fans. I actually heard during our game some grandmothers talking about THEIR fantasy football teams. Typical.

10-0 nothing else to say!

You should stop with the age and gender bias. Grandmothers playing fantasy football with their family and friends has nothing to do with being a redneck, but it does show your ignorance!

Freedom came out HOT..we had the drops..BIG DEAL!
It was a win..Freedom not a bad team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Freedom came out HOT..we had the drops..BIG DEAL!
It was a win..Freedom not a bad team!

How is Patriot from New Jersey?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Freedom came out HOT..we had the drops..BIG DEAL!
It was a win..Freedom not a bad team!

No, they are pretty mediocre. Edge would have lost badly to Legacy. Edge 2020 is not top in the conversation of top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Freedom came out HOT..we had the drops..BIG DEAL!
It was a win..Freedom not a bad team!

No, they are pretty mediocre. Edge would have lost badly to Legacy. Edge 2020 is not top in the conversation of top teams.

Has Legacy ever had a big win over a top team?

I was wrong about Legacy. I thought they would be competing for top team on LI. They are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has Legacy ever had a big win over a top team?

Where the f%*% do the LI teams come up with their names? Legacy, Icon, Crush, Smash, Outlaws, etc...

Is there some [lacrosse] dictionary that they find them in?

How do u figure that on Edge. Edge lost 7-6 on Saturday to Leading Edge 2019 and LIE ties Leading Edge 2020 8-8. I'm sure you will get your chance to prove your point in the future. We also had 7 players missing because of Hockey. Next year there are several tournaments that will offer up everyone a chance to prove themselves. As I have read here on several different threads fall ball never has their complete squads playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has Legacy ever had a big win over a top team?

Where the f%*% do the LI teams come up with their names? Legacy, Icon, Crush, Smash, Outlaws, etc...

Is there some [lacrosse] dictionary that they find them in?

That is not necessary.. It appears to me that the only thing resembling a [lacrosse] here is you. I suggest you check your attitude or we'll send out the Hitmen! Sounds like you got beat up, eh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The referee's lost control of the game. Guy calls a crease violation twice from 150 ft on the worst field we have ever seen. Still Looney's kicked our butts and are a very good complete well coached team. Had to laugh at the comment banning us from your tournament's. We get invited all over the place as its unique to get Canadian teams to play. We drive upwards of 10 hours and get so little respect. We have lots of kids involved in hockey this time of year but have already been invited to the Crabs tourney Jul 8-10/2016 so good luck with the rest of your seasons and see you in 2016. Edge lacrosse.

Unfortunately, you have to earn respect. All day, the Edge players talked smack on the field, earned themselves a bunch of penalties, got into it with other players and the refs, played dirty, and still lost. The parents were equally as mouthy and disrespectful. The players are skilled, but can't seem keep their mouths shut or hands to themselves - retaliatory hits, and poor sportsmanship when they are getting beat. When you finally teach the boys to play clean and lead by example, I'm sure you will get the respect that is deserved.

Patriot views themselves as the best Jersey team, just ask them. Leading Edge may be the better team this year. They picked up some good players.

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

This accounts for head to head, and relative matchups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

This accounts for head to head, and relative matchups.

So why isn't 91 Crush on top? even if you count the first crabs loss, doesn't the 19 - 8 game count too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

This accounts for head to head, and relative matchups.

fl$ has beaten Sweetlax, Orange crush, and Patriot this fall. Where does that put them on this ranking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

This accounts for head to head, and relative matchups.

What are relative match ups ? ....lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Problem is Crush is not a "true" 2020 team anymore. They have holdbacks just like the others. Looney's will beat Crush next time they play, so enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will end soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Problem is Crush is not a "true" 2020 team anymore. They have holdbacks just like the others. Looney's will beat Crush next time they play, so enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will end soon.

You are calling Crush out for not being a true 2020 team? How many players on Looneys were born before 9/1/2001? Just the number, no other info required. I hear the crickets already!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Problem is Crush is not a "true" 2020 team anymore. They have holdbacks just like the others. Looney's will beat Crush next time they play, so enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will end soon.

The above list makes no sense. Crush is clear #1, Crabs don't count (scumbag organization), all others have had wins and losses vs. one another and certain teams like sweetlax, annapolis hawks, rising sons and leading edge haven't won any meaningful tournament games to warrant being ranked that high. Legacy, fl$ and Express all in top 8.

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Problem is Crush is not a "true" 2020 team anymore. They have holdbacks just like the others. Looney's will beat Crush next time they play, so enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will end soon.

The above list makes no sense. Crush is clear #1, Crabs don't count (scumbag organization), all others have had wins and losses vs. one another and certain teams like sweetlax, annapolis hawks, rising sons and leading edge haven't won any meaningful tournament games to warrant being ranked that high. Legacy, fl$ and Express all in top 8.

Legacy didn't make final 4 last Sunday. Tied Leading Edge though, who did make semis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Madlax should be in the Top 5.

MD parent here, Crush is tops till they get knocked off the hill.

Crabs don't count, they will have kids driving themselves to tournaments this upcoming summer (true story)

Until Looney's beat Crush, they are #2!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Come on, is this really a serious attempt? only if you are listing 2019 Crabs.

Are we really talking about true 2020 ? ....lol I seem to recall an A$$ whipping on national TV when crush played the TRUE 2020 crabs team , looneys excellent team but have yet to beat Crush after 15 or so attempts ....lol

Problem is Crush is not a "true" 2020 team anymore. They have holdbacks just like the others. Looney's will beat Crush next time they play, so enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. It will end soon.

You are calling Crush out for not being a true 2020 team? How many players on Looneys were born before 9/1/2001? Just the number, no other info required. I hear the crickets already!

I don't think anyone with Looney's would make such statements. Someone may be implying so to stir the pot. Lots of respect for Crush. There's a few summer 01s but no more 4-5 and none older than june 01. More than half are public school kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Madlax should be in the Top 5.

The 10 - 0 loss Madlax team?

Hawks beat Legacy in Summer Exposure for the championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An attempt to line up the top 20:

1 - Crabs
2 - Looney's
2 - Team 91 Crush
4 - SweetLax
5 - Annapolis Hawks
6 - Rising Sons
7 - Edge
8 - Leading Edge
9 - Express
10 - Team 91 MD
11 - Texas Mustangs
12 - FCA
13 - Legacy
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Madlax
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

? Laxachussetts

Madlax should be in the Top 5.

Hardly, they just got demolished by Looneys and they lost to the Hawks and Breakers (91 Force) at Young Guns

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

Crush number 3?? Crush will continue to dominate. Yes, maybe the games against Crabs and Looneys won't continue to be 10+ Goal blowouts EVERY TIME, but Crush will still win big against those teams.

Madlax Capital 2020 is a trainwreck. They played two legitimate AA teams in the Fall. They were completely embarrassed by both the Hawks and Looneys. Add the two losses this weekend to a mediocre 3D Pacific team and it is clear Madlax 2020 is still not even close to competitive with the top 2020 teams.

You are going to need two list (polls) similar to the old college football polls.
There should be the recruiting poll, because college coaches do not give a damn about holdbacks, reclassers, pg'ers, etc, and a parents' poll to reflect team rankings based on "true" 2020's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush number 3?? Crush will continue to dominate. Yes, maybe the games against Crabs and Looneys won't continue to be 10+ Goal blowouts EVERY TIME, but Crush will still win big against those teams.

They barely beat Looney's last time, got lucky!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

They tied a NC team that played the Hawks and Team 91 force close. The reality is that these lists are crazy beyond the first 3 teams because there are probably 15 teams around the country that in any given game could beat each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush number 3?? Crush will continue to dominate. Yes, maybe the games against Crabs and Looneys won't continue to be 10+ Goal blowouts EVERY TIME, but Crush will still win big against those teams.

Team aspect of the sport will catch up to Crush this year, they don't have any depth, game starts and ends with their top 5 kids, great defense but in longer games against bigger teams they'll be gassed in second half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

They tied a NC team that played the Hawks and Team 91 force close. The reality is that these lists are crazy beyond the first 3 teams because there are probably 15 teams around the country that in any given game could beat each other.

Agree with the poster above...

#1. Crush - until someone beats them (Beach Lax does not count since Crabs had several currently rostered 2019 players) Denver - never forget!
#2. Crabs - best 2019 team in all of 2020.
#3. Looney's - who apparently think that being better than Crush and actually beating them are not related, and still have to figure out how to beat the Crabs first.

Beyond that there are a bunch of teams who on any given day can beat one another all of whom are better than Madlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

They tied a NC team that played the Hawks and Team 91 force close. The reality is that these lists are crazy beyond the first 3 teams because there are probably 15 teams around the country that in any given game could beat each other.

Agree with the poster above...

#1. Crush - until someone beats them (Beach Lax does not count since Crabs had several currently rostered 2019 players) Denver - never forget!
#2. Crabs - best 2019 team in all of 2020.
#3. Looney's - who apparently think that being better than Crush and actually beating them are not related, and still have to figure out how to beat the Crabs first.

Beyond that there are a bunch of teams who on any given day can beat one another all of whom are better than Madlax

So.... Crabs win doesn't count against Crush, although they both harbor holdbacks. Too funny! Excuses are for losers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

They tied a NC team that played the Hawks and Team 91 force close. The reality is that these lists are crazy beyond the first 3 teams because there are probably 15 teams around the country that in any given game could beat each other.

Agree with the poster above...

#1. Crush - until someone beats them (Beach Lax does not count since Crabs had several currently rostered 2019 players) Denver - never forget!
#2. Crabs - best 2019 team in all of 2020.
#3. Looney's - who apparently think that being better than Crush and actually beating them are not related, and still have to figure out how to beat the Crabs first.

Beyond that there are a bunch of teams who on any given day can beat one another all of whom are better than Madlax

Crabs and Looneys will both beat Crush, that is if Crush doesn't keep ducking them both!

Crabs and Looney's both have bigger, faster and deeper teams than Crush. But the Crush coaches only care about the recruitment of 5-6 kids on that team, so they will be fine.

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is the "True State" team from that beat 91 MD Force this past weekend?

Who else on this list have they played?

They tied a NC team that played the Hawks and Team 91 force close. The reality is that these lists are crazy beyond the first 3 teams because there are probably 15 teams around the country that in any given game could beat each other.

Agree with the poster above...

#1. Crush - until someone beats them (Beach Lax does not count since Crabs had several currently rostered 2019 players) Denver - never forget!
#2. Crabs - best 2019 team in all of 2020.
#3. Looney's - who apparently think that being better than Crush and actually beating them are not related, and still have to figure out how to beat the Crabs first.

Beyond that there are a bunch of teams who on any given day can beat one another all of whom are better than Madlax

So.... Crabs win doesn't count against Crush, although they both harbor holdbacks. Too funny! Excuses are for losers

Well, the last time Crabs 2020 played Crush, they lost, that's what counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

Laxachussets, tomahawks, solid teams too, definitely in there somewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

sweetlax 13? Didn't they lose to fl$?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1  Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

Igloo top 20?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

Laxachussets, tomahawks, solid teams too, definitely in there somewhere.

They maybe be but I have seen either of them play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

This list is funny! Lots of biased agendas. That's all I'm saying!

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

"

Why should MD "clean it up" when LI teams are doing the same thing? Hypocritical, don't you think? As for ducking, where have you been all fall Crush? Oh yea, Yale,lol!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

Love your punctuation in your multiple run-on sentence rant! Please brush-up on your remedial English, try hooked-on-phonics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

No, all the pushback sounds like it is coming from Crabs, maybe even fat crab daddy. Oh, and the correct spelling of title is TITLE. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

"

Why should MD "clean it up" when LI teams are doing the same thing? Hypocritical, don't you think? As for ducking, where have you been all fall Crush? Oh yea, Yale,lol!

Crush goes to 2019 events but plays the weakest freaking 2019 teams and think their accomplishing something.

Why is there a Jersey team in here. I think Leading Edge lost the last two to the Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1 � Team 91 Crush
2 - Crabs
3 - Looneys
4 - Leading Edge
5 - Rising Sons
6 - Team 91 MD
7 - FCA
8 - Legacy
9 - Hawks
10 - Express
11 - Edge
12 - Madlax
13 - Sweetlax
14 - Next Level
15 - 3D Pacific
16 - Mesa
17 - Igloo
18 - MD RoughRiders
19 - Red Freedom
20 - Orange Crush

14-20 are all interchangeable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

NPYLL.

Looneys daddy whose son was cut from real clubs should we remind you about you attending tournaments beating some of our PA town teams LOONEYS=joke LI please don't associate them with the rest of us in Maryland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

"

Why should MD "clean it up" when LI teams are doing the same thing? Hypocritical, don't you think? As for ducking, where have you been all fall Crush? Oh yea, Yale,lol!

Crush goes to 2019 events but plays the weakest freaking 2019 teams and think their accomplishing something.

Yep, exposed! Joke! The Terrapin classic they played on Saturday featured weak teams. All the good teams played Sunday including the Sweetlax team that gave them a beating at the IL invitational. Coinidence, I think not!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

NPYLL.

Where you went 2 and 5 last season...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

"

Why should MD "clean it up" when LI teams are doing the same thing? Hypocritical, don't you think? As for ducking, where have you been all fall Crush? Oh yea, Yale,lol!

Crush goes to 2019 events but plays the weakest freaking 2019 teams and think their accomplishing something.

Yep, exposed! Joke! The Terrapin classic they played on Saturday featured weak teams. All the good teams played Sunday including the Sweetlax team that gave them a beating at the IL invitational. Coinidence, I think not!

That was the 2019 Sweetlax team that has 9 D1 commits. It is ok that Crush lost to them. They beat the 2019 Maxlax team, also with several D1 commits yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yea I agree Crush is definetly ducking a team they are lifetime 54-0 against and a team called the crabs that they last beat by double digits!! It's insane how dare they! Maryland clean it up New Looneys dad you are a master on the keyboard but what can you expect you signed up for a one team club and come on here trying to stir up LI TEAMS Go beat Freedom by more than one and wait on line for a shot at the tittle

"

Why should MD "clean it up" when LI teams are doing the same thing? Hypocritical, don't you think? As for ducking, where have you been all fall Crush? Oh yea, Yale,lol!

Crush goes to 2019 events but plays the weakest freaking 2019 teams and think their accomplishing something.

Yep, exposed! Joke! The Terrapin classic they played on Saturday featured weak teams. All the good teams played Sunday including the Sweetlax team that gave them a beating at the IL invitational. Coinidence, I think not!

That was the 2019 Sweetlax team that has 9 D1 commits. It is ok that Crush lost to them. They beat the 2019 Maxlax team, also with several D1 commits yesterday.

They never played 2019 madlax. They would have been "Crushed"

Crush didn't have holdbacks in the summer.... From what I've heard they just got them this fall.

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Edge played Crush 2020 where my son plays for Edge and we never played that team? You must mean leading Edge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

Has Legacy ever beaten the Terps?

Looneys Brandywine Classic hahah

Igloo???? Please. The creator of the list is uninformed. Its irrelevant anyway... Many good teams to compete against in the Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

they should have, they are age appropriate for JV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

Has Legacy ever beaten the Terps?

No Long island top teams ever play eachother. Their scared they will lose "fake" bragging rights or lose players. Legacy will play any of them the other clubs dont wont the mess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

Has Legacy ever beaten the Terps?

No Long island top teams ever play eachother. Their scared they will lose "fake" bragging rights or lose players. Legacy will play any of them the other clubs dont wont the mess.

Yes or no would have been sufficient. You need to brush up on your grammar and spelling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then why don't the other teams (Crabs, Looneys) do it? If the tournaments they play up in are a "Joke", some of them are but there have been a few good teams they've beaten while playing up in 2019 (Primetime, Edge, and others), then why don't Crabs and Looneys do it? And don't use the answer "They don't want to waste money like the Crush just to get a 'T-Shirt'"

Crabs 2020 played in a JV HS tournament this fall and did well.

they should have, they are age appropriate for JV

Sounds like Crush are too now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

NPYLL.

Where you went 2 and 5 last season...

We've added a lot of new pieces. Jealously comes with the territory when you play for the nation's best club. We can handled the Baltimorons and the Long Island Guidos. We'll see you on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

NPYLL.

Where you went 2 and 5 last season...

We've added a lot of new pieces. Jealously comes with the territory when you play for the nation's best club. We can handled the Baltimorons and the Long Island Guidos. We'll see you on the field.

Didn't you just lose 10-0 this weekend on the field?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All you haters better hope your teams hit the wall this winter. Madlax 2020 will be ready for you in the summer.

Why wait until summer, what spring league will you be playing in?

NPYLL.

Where you went 2 and 5 last season...

We've added a lot of new pieces. Jealously comes with the territory when you play for the nation's best club. We can handled the Baltimorons and the Long Island Guidos. We'll see you on the field.

Didn't I see a previous post that Madlax lost 10-0 the other day? Are the new pieces not there yet?

Hey brash guy, easy on the LI guido's comment. I hung my gold chains up, sold my camaro and moved to GC years ago. yeah, dats right. I'm JR ducks prepped out Balto style now but I can still tell ya where all the good delis and pizza's is at...

Madlax-Looney's I watched the game it wasn't like a 10-0 game. More like a 9-0 game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax-Looney's I watched the game it wasn't like a 10-0 game. More like a 9-0 game

According to the MadLax posters it was actually a very close game. Hmmm...I wonder what a blowout looks like.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax-Looney's I watched the game it wasn't like a 10-0 game. More like a 9-0 game

Then you saw all the call/no-calls that would have changed the game. Talk about home cooking.

How'd Bluefish do down in MD this weekend?

yes Madlax fan I do agree with you that looney's coaches are very masterful of influencing the referee's and getting the calls going their way. The coach complained about the opening faceoff in our game. Guess what next time around they got awarded the ball for a clamp.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How'd Bluefish do down in MD this weekend?

They struggled

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax-Looney's I watched the game it wasn't like a 10-0 game. More like a 9-0 game

Then you saw all the call/no-calls that would have changed the game. Talk about home cooking.

saw 10 goals to mad lax zero

Lets move on from the Madlax-Looney's game please

After 4 practice don't think there ready for a tournament like that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After 4 practice don't think there ready for a tournament like that.

And the B team tied a team the A team lost to

Thanks for the Bluefish commentary. Hear you.

Lets put Fall Ball into perspective. It's not about winning or losing - it's for the coaches. So they know what they are working with as a result of the try-out. Little Johnny looked great for 2 hours of drills - lets see what the team looks like playing together. Many of the clubs haven't registered for their summer tourney's yet. They use these games as a barometer to what tournament they will play.

Great, thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax-Looney's I watched the game it wasn't like a 10-0 game. More like a 9-0 game

Then you saw all the call/no-calls that would have changed the game. Talk about home cooking.

The score was 10-0 - I was there, and I watched the game. All day, every game, the calls were terrible, but just like I told my son - the refs didn't score on you, the other team did. Looneys was the only team in Madlax's division that was decent - the other two were LA Heat and MDX, who both probably should have played single A. Bottom line is, Madlax was not even close to the same league as Looneys in that game, and I have no love whatsoever for Looneys, so that is tough for me to even say. Madlax is not looking impressive at all, it does not matter what pieces they added, the are simply OK - they are simply not in the same class as Looneys, Crabs, Legacy, Leading Edge, etc. who also played this weekend. When you lose 10-0, you got beat - Looneys outplayed Madlax, period. Please stop the nonsense.

Glen Cove? Must fit right in. Isn't it MR Ducks?

They struggled, but two pretty well balanced teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After 4 practice don't think there ready for a tournament like that.

And the B team tied a team the A team lost to

That's a silly comment. Didn't the A team lose 6-3 to Mid Atlantic, who beat the b team 14-0

they will both be fine, good coaching on both teams. if the kids dedicate themselves and listen to their coaches they will be fine.

After 4 practices don't think there ready for a tournament like that.

Silly how? Better record? More goals for?

A was 0-3
B was 0-2-1

Some beautiful parts of Glen Cove and it doesn't feel like you live in Queens all gridded out, land locked and surrounded on all sides by thugs...Typical Garden City attitude knocking another town. That is why no one likes you.

36goals against to 6 goals for b team.
26 goals against to 5 goals for a team.
Don't really think anyone should be happy with those numbers. Both teams will be fine just have to learn how to play with each other.

And should have won if not for incompetent officiating. I think the weekend was as much about level setting for spring as opposed to competing. We knew going in it was going to be a challenge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After 4 practice don't think there ready for a tournament like that.

And the B team tied a team the A team lost to

Yes. If a youth team loses, it's always because of the officials.

Always. Every time. Are you that weird Madlax dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes. If a youth team loses, it's always because of the officials.

Always. Every time. Are you that weird Madlax dad?

pretty sure madlax had nothing to do with prior post

pretty sure the guy was kidding about the officiating not making an excuse for the teams performance is how I read it. I guess everyone is always looking to pounce on people on hear with negativity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Silly how? Better record? More goals for?

Silly that you compare scores and think thats an indication of anything and silly that you can't get over the fact that little johnny is on the B team

silly that you guys don't shut up.

Bluefish is a brand new club so there will be some growing pains. They need to keep practicing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish is a brand new club so there will be some growing pains. They need to keep practicing.

At this age, the practice won't make that much of a difference. The talented kids will get put there and excell regardless of practice. That's what they do at the showcases. They findicated a way to win. Practice overrated.

Thank you for the words of wisdom Allen Iverson. You obviously never had success in sports because of your lack of work ethic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish is a brand new club so there will be some growing pains. They need to keep practicing.

At this age, the practice won't make that much of a difference. The talented kids will get put there and excell regardless of practice. That's what they do at the showcases. They findicated a way to win. Practice overrated.

This could be a top ten dumbest post ever.

I do believe that is the dumbest post I have ever seen on this page ever!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish is a brand new club so there will be some growing pains. They need to keep practicing.

At this age, the practice won't make that much of a difference. The talented kids will get put there and excell regardless of practice. That's what they do at the showcases. They findicated a way to win. Practice overrated.

You can't be serious!

shouldn't some comments just be taken for what they are, ludicrous?...if folks would just leave it out there, these idiots would not respond.
contrary to belief, i would like to think that 99% of folks laugh and shrug off comments like that.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bluefish is a brand new club so there will be some growing pains. They need to keep practicing.

At this age, the practice won't make that much of a difference. The talented kids will get put there and excell regardless of practice. That's what they do at the showcases. They findicated a way to win. Practice overrated.

You can't be serious!

Actually, I am. Seen it time and time again. Kids who are skilled and smart players (Some getting there due to their own hard work, with perhaps a parent or sibling) gets asked to play on a pick up team, along with other similar players, and they beat good, established teams that practice together frequently. If A kid is good, he/she will be good no matter what team you put them on, in general of course! It goes the other way too!

hate to break it to you but no one cares about winning and losing at showcases. You can ask any college coach at those things, all they look at is individual players not scores of games. they are meaningless.

Exactly. These youth parents are idiots. When their kids go to HS, then they'll learn that nobody cares who wins a game or a tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly. These youth parents are idiots. When their kids go to HS, then they'll learn that nobody cares who wins a game or a tournament.

You're right - NOBODY cares who wins a game or tournament. Certainly not your kid right? Cause that is what it means to be a good lacrosse player -- not caring about wins or losses.

Do some of you parents actually read what you post on the forums? You conflate things like a SHOWCASE vs. HIGH SCHOOL ball.

Do you think the kids at The Hill, Landon, Prep, Haverford, etc. don't care about winning? Seriously? You think the coaches there care, and by proxy care how your son performs on the field with the team?

Seriously. Get a grip.

original post said "showcases", the college coaches don't care who wins or loses the game, that is 100% accurate. Everyone who has ever played in the games or any sport cares about winning.

Is it too soon for my '26 to go a showcase? Seems like it might be a money grab. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it too soon for my '26 to go a showcase? Seems like it might be a money grab. Thanks.

Not at all..Just make sure he is at right showcases. Make a highlight video also and send to all D1 coaches attending showcase...And dont forget to ask Ty for a shout out..Goes a long way..Good luck as you might even be to late..as this 11 year almost was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uodvpdMQXpk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it too soon for my '26 to go a showcase? Seems like it might be a money grab. Thanks.

Not at all..Just make sure he is at right showcases. Make a highlight video also and send to all D1 coaches attending showcase...And dont forget to ask Ty for a shout out..Goes a long way..Good luck as you might even be to late..as this 11 year almost was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uodvpdMQXpk

I normally do not allow links BUT this was hilarious.. Sadly, the kid is too old and is not sure he likes lacrosse.. hahahaha

What are the top Summer Showcase events for 2020's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the top Summer Showcase events for 2020's

Maverick is probably the best. Invite only. 225 is ok too. Jake Reed is a money grab. If you get a direct invite, it may be good.

what about team showcases?

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it too soon for my '26 to go a showcase? Seems like it might be a money grab. Thanks.

Not at all..Just make sure he is at right showcases. Make a highlight video also and send to all D1 coaches attending showcase...And dont forget to ask Ty for a shout out..Goes a long way..Good luck as you might even be to late..as this 11 year almost was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uodvpdMQXpk

I normally do not allow links BUT this was hilarious.. Sadly, the kid is too old and is not sure he likes lacrosse.. hahahaha

That is too funny!!

Tournament this weekend features Terps against Legacy so the question of who is #2 behind Crush can be settled once and for all on the field as it should be. Would anyone like to start the whining now about how players are missing or hurt or how it is only the fall, blah blah blah...why wait for the game to be played, let the whining and excuses commence!

Express by 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tournament this weekend features Terps against Legacy so the question of who is #2 behind Crush can be settled once and for all on the field as it should be. Would anyone like to start the whining now about how players are missing or hurt or how it is only the fall, blah blah blah...why wait for the game to be played, let the whining and excuses commence!

You are a [lacrosse].

Gather around this weekend for the EXPRESS DADDY BALL !!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express by 5

Legacy by 3

It will be interesting to see how Express North 2020AA stacks up against Taz and Terps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tournament this weekend features Terps against Legacy so the question of who is #2 behind Crush can be settled once and for all on the field as it should be. Would anyone like to start the whining now about how players are missing or hurt or how it is only the fall, blah blah blah...why wait for the game to be played, let the whining and excuses commence!

You are a [lacrosse].

Ouch, what a comeback. You really know how to hurt someone...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express by 5

Legacy by 3

I think they'll tie

GO Legacy! Please...

Bring plenty of Kleenex for the Express boys should they lose...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bring plenty of Kleenex for the Express boys should they lose...

That is really hateful.. Are you happy picking on kids? Such a charming individual.

Schedule has completely changed and now only has the Terps playing 1 game against Taz??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be interesting to see how Express North 2020AA stacks up against Taz and Terps.

I have seen both teams. I think Taz.

I think its more interesting watching the crazy parents on the sidelines who think they are playing the game thru their boys.
It's 8th grade lacrosse people chill out !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express by 5

Legacy by 3

I think they'll tie

Might even go to watch this one. Been looking forward to this meeting for a long time. A lot of bragging rights at stake. I honestly think it could go either way depending on which team is "clicking" that day!

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be interesting to see how Express North 2020AA stacks up against Taz and Terps.

Express North just got beat by a town team a few weeks ago Nothing to see there

Which town team?

Crabs
Crush
Looney's
Legacy
Terps
FCA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which town team?

The best one, Manhasset

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
Crush
Looney's
Legacy
Terps
FCA

Madlax needs to be included in that list.

By the best one.i guess you mean in fairy land.many of the Manhasset specials play for express anyway.you make mc out to be a god.keep kissing his .ss and donating money to his pyramid scheme

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
Crush
Looney's
Legacy
Terps
FCA

Lol.....

Based on MAdlax's performance this fall I would strongly disagree. You must be a [lacrosse] Madlax dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
Crush
Looney's
Legacy
Terps
FCA

Madlax needs to be included in that list.

Who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Thanks. Nice to get a normal response to a question without all the added b.s.

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs
Crush
Looney's
Legacy
Terps
FCA

Madlax needs to be included in that list.

Who?

Madlax...the team that lost 10-0 to Looney's last weekend.

Fca destroyed terps

Don't forget 91 force, legit in fall than fade come spring. Looneys green will beat them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget 91 force, legit in fall than fade come spring. Looneys green will beat them

Looney's green?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Thanks. Nice to get a normal response to a question without all the added b.s.

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what are the terps called on the schedule? which express team?

Terps are Express Wieczorek. Wolverines (B team) are Express Leghart. C team is Express Leggy. At the moment, there is a 4th Express team just called Express 2020 listed on the schedule on Tourney Machine but there is no 4th 2020 team so I think schedule will be getting updated again.

Express has gotten so watered down, they take anyone and form a B, C, or D team. Starting to look like the yellow jackets of boys lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca destroyed terps

and then FCA got destroyed by Rising Sons, who Express beat in the prior game...what's your point?

Express North beat them in the finals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

By the best one.i guess you mean in fairy land.many of the Manhasset specials play for express anyway.you make mc out to be a god.keep kissing his .ss and donating money to his pyramid scheme

There is one boy who plays on the Manhasset team who plays for Express. Get your facts straight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North beat them in the finals

So because they beat them in the finals, does that mean Express North wwasn't beaten by a town team a few weeks ago? No, it means a town team beat them and then the Express north AA beat a town team by a goal in the finals

Pretty sure there was more than one express player, plus a few fl$ players on the Manhasset team. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter, it was a great day of lacrosse with some very competitive games. The final was a blast to watch and could have gone either way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express North beat them in the finals

So because they beat them in the finals, does that mean Express North wwasn't beaten by a town team a few weeks ago? No, it means a town team beat them and then the Express north AA beat a town team by a goal in the finals

it was such a great game. express north has some kids that are very good but team isn't as deep as some of the better travel programs.

So if a manhasset kid plays for the Express, or for fl$, and when those teams aren't playing he plays for his town team, somehow that means its not a town team?? Are the kids in your town so bad they can't make an Express team, or an fl$ team? OH, hello GC dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget 91 force, legit in fall than fade come spring. Looneys green will beat them

What does that even mean? Sounds like somebody got cut from 91 and ended up on Green.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

By the best one.i guess you mean in fairy land.many of the Manhasset specials play for express anyway.you make mc out to be a god.keep kissing his .ss and donating money to his pyramid scheme

There is one boy who plays on the Manhasset team who plays for Express. Get your facts straight

4 of the 5 Manhasset Terps jumped to fl$ this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't forget 91 force, legit in fall than fade come spring. Looneys green will beat them

What does that even mean? Sounds like somebody got cut from 91 and ended up on Green.

Looney's Green played them last year when they were the Breakers and lost by about 15.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So if a manhasset kid plays for the Express, or for fl$, and when those teams aren't playing he plays for his town team, somehow that means its not a town team?? Are the kids in your town so bad they can't make an Express team, or an fl$ team? OH, hello GC dad

Ouch

You stay classy Manhasset...

Can't we all just be thankful during this week...If you need us we'll be at Plandome...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't we all just be thankful during this week...If you need us we'll be at Plandome...

Wife too lazy to cook?

Classy place

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Classy place

The Plandizzle

Edge will be the top team this summer.

Originally Posted by laxer2001

Edge will be the top team this summer.

awsome! thanks for the heads up.

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

Originally Posted by laxer2001

Edge will be the top team this summer.

Edge will be the oldest team this summer? Crabs probably have you beat but you're a close second!

Look for Madlax 2020 to be at the top of the NPYLL this spring.

Originally Posted by laxer2001

Edge will be the top team this summer.

And... The oldest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by laxer2001

Edge will be the top team this summer.

awsome! thanks for the heads up.

Especially because they will be 15 going on 16 playing our 13-14 year old boys. Congratulations in advance

Edge players start turning 15 after may 1/2016.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge players start turning 15 after may 1/2016.

A full year older than other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge players start turning 15 after may 1/2016.

A full year older than other teams.

A full year to almost 2 years older than other teams, except Crabs, which gives Edge a run for their money in "older" players. Must make you feel really proud that your 15 almost 16 year olds can beat 13 and 14 year olds. Edge and Crabs 2020 teams should be playing 2019 division. Oh, that's right, they wouldn't win in that division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

what was the score, heard it was a good game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge players start turning 15 after may 1/2016.

If you turned 14 in May of 2015 you are a 9th grader.

Stop with the nonsense about Madlax until you actually beat a god team. Madax currently is not even a top 15 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Very good game, 8-6, neither team was missing players that would make a big difference, prior poster just stirring pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Very good game, 8-6, neither team was missing players that would make a big difference, prior poster just stirring pot.

No, stirring the pot is stating you are #2 team for weeks leading up to this game. You've never beaten the Terps, so they are #2 team until another LI teams beats them. No pot stirring, just fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Very good game, 8-6, neither team was missing players that would make a big difference, prior poster just stirring pot.

No, stirring the pot is stating you are #2 team for weeks leading up to this game. You've never beaten the Terps, so they are #2 team until another LI teams beats them. No pot stirring, just fact.

we're #2...we're #2...we're # er..eh..ummm...#4 behind Crush, Crabs and Looney's

Missing kids or injured kids a loss is a loss.. good game except the outcome don't make excuses.

How did Express North AA or GC 34 handle the competition ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop with the nonsense about Madlax until you actually beat a god team. Madax currently is not even a top 15 team.

I don't take orders from guys with carports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express North AA or GC 34 handle the competition ?

Do you mean Express North B? Outside Terps and Legact it was a low level tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Very good game, 8-6, neither team was missing players that would make a big difference, prior poster just stirring pot.

No, stirring the pot is stating you are #2 team for weeks leading up to this game. You've never beaten the Terps, so they are #2 team until another LI teams beats them. No pot stirring, just fact.

we're #2...we're #2...we're # er..eh..ummm...#4 behind Crush, Crabs and Looney's

#2 legit 2020 team. Crabs and Looneys 2019/2020 team combos don't count! Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Taz lost to Terps today. Now please stop saying you are the second best team on LI. Until you beat Terps, you are not!

We were missing a few. Different game next time. Still # 2.

Very good game, 8-6, neither team was missing players that would make a big difference, prior poster just stirring pot.

No, stirring the pot is stating you are #2 team for weeks leading up to this game. You've never beaten the Terps, so they are #2 team until another LI teams beats them. No pot stirring, just fact.

we're #2...we're #2...we're # er..eh..ummm...#4 behind Crush, Crabs and Looney's

#2 legit 2020 team. Crabs and Looneys 2019/2020 team combos don't count! Sorry.

Why don't they count? Legacy has a 9th grader who didn't even bother holding back on the team. As well as a few other holdbacks. Is there a LI double standard?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express North AA or GC 34 handle the competition ?

Do you mean Express North B? Outside Terps and Legact it was a low level tournament.

What were the scores?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express North AA or GC 34 handle the competition ?

Do you mean Express North B? Outside Terps and Legact it was a low level tournament.

What were the scores?

All blowouts, not even anything remotely competitive

What 9th grader???

Originally Posted by laxer2001

Edge will be the top team this summer.

Isn't edge the program that doesn't count because they're all older?

GC34 lost to north aa in a blowout, beat some combo express b/c team, and lost to the b team by 2. Whoever had their b team top 10 seriously misguided.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC34 lost to north aa in a blowout, beat some combo express b/c team, and lost to the b team by 2. Whoever had their b team top 10 seriously misguided.

Which B team North or Express Leghart? I am surprised to hear about GC... their players seemed strong in their earlier ages- have they defected to club teams and abandoned the GC program? I never understood the stronghold the town had on such young kids.

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

coaches from dune dogs played/coached last year at 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9th grader???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

Terps lost 8-2 to FCA, at the Hill school event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

coaches from dune dogs played/coached last year at 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9th grader???

His son's in 8th grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express North AA or GC 34 handle the competition ?

Do you mean Express North B? Outside Terps and Legact it was a low level tournament.

You really are an idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

coaches from dune dogs played/coached last year at 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9th grader???

His son's in 8th grade

Last year he was

Originally Posted by Anonymous

coaches from dune dogs played/coached last year at 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 9th grader???

His son's in 8th grade

Last year he was

Some crazy parents seeing the scholarship slipping away because jr. Doesn't stand out, will scramble for and PERCEIVED advantage. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

There are so many dumb things stated in your short post, seems like you have an IQ in the range of [lacrosse]? Am I correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

There are so many dumb things stated in your short post, seems like you have an IQ in the range of [lacrosse]? Am I correct?

Looneys will become #1 This year. And hopefully Crush won't cry holdbacks, as they have plenty of their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

There are so many dumb things stated in your short post, seems like you have an IQ in the range of [lacrosse]? Am I correct?

Looneys will become #1 This year. And hopefully Crush won't cry holdbacks, as they have plenty of their own.

They still have to beat the Crabs first, once.

Lonely dad you are a [lacrosse] of a lot closer to Freedom 2020 than Crush Also worry a bit more about being #1 in Maryland first. Next year your parents will realize they have to be in a real club and will leave for Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing is obvious there is a massive drop off from Crush to # 2 Terps , i think you have too say TERPS are not # 2 it has to be Loonies or Crabs .

There are so many dumb things stated in your short post, seems like you have an IQ in the range of [lacrosse]? Am I correct?

Looneys will become #1 This year. And hopefully Crush won't cry holdbacks, as they have plenty of their own.

Looneys lost to crabs already and they will not become number. Maybe if they change up the staff.

In the DMV, Crabs are the best. Followed by Looney's for now, but will soon be surpassed by Madlax 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In the DMV, Crabs are the best. Followed by Looney's for now, but will soon be surpassed by Madlax 2020.

Oh good, is it you again, who said a few weeks ago Madlax will beat Loony's and the final score was Loony's 10/ Madlax 0, that is a 0. Madlax would have a hard time and probably loose to Loony's 2020 Green. You just need to go elsewhere and peddle your bs, it is not working here, just tired of hearing about Madlax and how great they are yet they never win.

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

No, it has been clearly established that the refs had absolutely nothing to do with the game or the outcome of the game. This is only in your confused head and your complete denial that Looney's kicked Madlax butt and will continue to do so. Again you are wrong, yor we're not in Looney's country and lastly, Madlax is not and never will be the #1 club in America, Good grief they will also never be in the top 5, probably never in the top 10, not in America but in Maryland. But keep saying it was the refs if it helps you, because it is clear you are totally confused.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, it has been clearly established that the refs had absolutely nothing to do with the game or the outcome of the game. This is only in your confused head and your complete denial that Looney's kicked Madlax butt and will continue to do so. Again you are wrong, yor we're not in Looney's country and lastly, Madlax is not and never will be the #1 club in America, Good grief they will also never be in the top 5, probably never in the top 10, not in America but in Maryland. But keep saying it was the refs if it helps you, because it is clear you are totally confused.

Looneys is not #1 either. Top 10 but that's it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, it has been clearly established that the refs had absolutely nothing to do with the game or the outcome of the game. This is only in your confused head and your complete denial that Looney's kicked Madlax butt and will continue to do so. Again you are wrong, yor we're not in Looney's country and lastly, Madlax is not and never will be the #1 club in America, Good grief they will also never be in the top 5, probably never in the top 10, not in America but in Maryland. But keep saying it was the refs if it helps you, because it is clear you are totally confused.

Looneys is not #1 either. Top 10 but that's it.

. Never said they were #1, right now they are easily #2, a ranking Madlax will never achieve.

You must be new to the team. Crush, crabs, Fca are in front right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must be new to the team. Crush, crabs, Fca are in front right now.

There are different FCA teams. Are you referring to the National team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must be new to the team. Crush, crabs, Fca are in front right now.

No, have nothing to do with the team, just observations of them and other strong teams. I do agree with many that Crabs, due to their numerous holdbacks, should not be part of the equation.

2020 Currently

Crush - until someone beats them this year
Crabs - many holdbacks, will eventually be #1 since they are actually a 2019 team

Looney's - until they beat Crush or Crabs this is where they belong

FCA Md, Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Hawks, Rising Sons - until they play with consistency they are anywhere between #4 - 8

Mad lax - somewhere below the second teams of the above mentioned, probably around #19 in the MD area.

91 MD spanked FCA 8-2, Rising Sons 7-4, tied Express 5-5, tied Hawks 5-5 and just whipped MSJ freshmen 13-1. They are up there in MD for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Currently

Crush - until someone beats them this year
Crabs - many holdbacks, will eventually be #1 since they are actually a 2019 team

Looney's - until they beat Crush or Crabs this is where they belong

FCA Md, Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Hawks, Rising Sons - until they play with consistency they are anywhere between #4 - 8

Mad lax - somewhere below the second teams of the above mentioned, probably around #19 in the MD area.

Need to put 91 MD on that list somewhere, they beat FCA easily and tied Terps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must be new to the team. Crush, crabs, Fca are in front right now.

No, have nothing to do with the team, just observations of them and other strong teams. I do agree with many that Crabs, due to their numerous holdbacks, should not be part of the equation.

So ....you're saying it's ok for all the other clubs to have holdbacks, just wrong when the Crabs do it. Seems Hypocritical, no? And don't even start with "we only have one" boo hoo hoo, so you're cheating but we're not, we'll maybe just a little!

I believe it's the two year hold backs or one year holdbacks that declare PG year so two years down. You know the crab way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

2020 Currently

Crush - until someone beats them this year
Crabs - many holdbacks, will eventually be #1 since they are actually a 2019 team

Looney's - until they beat Crush or Crabs this is where they belong

91 MD Force - 4th to the above, has issues competing with the above three but dominates all below.

FCA Md, Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Hawks, Rising Sons - until they play with consistency they are anywhere between #4 - 8

Mad lax - somewhere below the second teams of the above mentioned, probably around #19 in the MD area.

The only thing Madlax is #1 in is their blind ignorance. The top Madlax team can compete with 91 MD, FCA, and Looney's....their Platnum, White and Green teams respectively.

91 Force dominate all below? That is just silly. They tied Rising Sons at the Hill School. They just tied the Hawks on the Eastern Shore. In Breakers form they lost to them twice too in the NYPLL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

Do you really still care how teams are ranked? Unfortunately, times have changed so much that even in 8th grade, wins or losses don't mean anything. As long as your kid plays his game and stands out as a team player and a strong individual, has good grades- well then the rest is taken care of. College coaches are eyeing these kids already and they will be the first to tell you they could care less what team is 1-2-3 or 10th. Stop the rankings! Let the kids play and tell them to do their best on the field and in the classroom. Period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really still care how teams are ranked? Unfortunately, times have changed so much that even in 8th grade, wins or losses don't mean anything. As long as your kid plays his game and stands out as a team player and a strong individual, has good grades- well then the rest is taken care of. College coaches are eyeing these kids already and they will be the first to tell you they could care less what team is 1-2-3 or 10th. Stop the rankings! Let the kids play and tell them to do their best on the field and in the classroom. Period.

can't deny that the college coaches are more likely to come out to watch the top 5 teams over a team towards the bottom. I guarantee one of the kids on one of the top 5 teams will be the first to commit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really still care how teams are ranked? Unfortunately, times have changed so much that even in 8th grade, wins or losses don't mean anything. As long as your kid plays his game and stands out as a team player and a strong individual, has good grades- well then the rest is taken care of. College coaches are eyeing these kids already and they will be the first to tell you they could care less what team is 1-2-3 or 10th. Stop the rankings! Let the kids play and tell them to do their best on the field and in the classroom. Period.

can't deny that the college coaches are more likely to come out to watch the top 5 teams over a team towards the bottom. I guarantee one of the kids on one of the top 5 teams will be the first to commit

Yes- I will give you that- but does it matter if the kid is on the 1-5th? I can also guarantee that a kid on the 10th will be recruited if that good. Showcases and prospect days do wonders for some kids without top club ties.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you really still care how teams are ranked? Unfortunately, times have changed so much that even in 8th grade, wins or losses don't mean anything. As long as your kid plays his game and stands out as a team player and a strong individual, has good grades- well then the rest is taken care of. College coaches are eyeing these kids already and they will be the first to tell you they could care less what team is 1-2-3 or 10th. Stop the rankings! Let the kids play and tell them to do their best on the field and in the classroom. Period.

can't deny that the college coaches are more likely to come out to watch the top 5 teams over a team towards the bottom. I guarantee one of the kids on one of the top 5 teams will be the first to commit

Kids care immensely about the team results, and so do the parents, and if they don't they probably aren't on one of the top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Force dominate all below? That is just silly. They tied Rising Sons at the Hill School. They just tied the Hawks on the Eastern Shore. In Breakers form they lost to them twice too in the NYPLL.

That 91 force could be a lot better if they had the right pieces. Seem to fade as season goes on every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Force dominate all below? That is just silly. They tied Rising Sons at the Hill School. They just tied the Hawks on the Eastern Shore. In Breakers form they lost to them twice too in the NYPLL.

They are all good teams and agree dominate was a poor choice but for the record, 91 Force beat Rising Sons 7-4 at the Hill School. The rankings that are being tossed around are referring to this year which still has months to play out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Force dominate all below? That is just silly. They tied Rising Sons at the Hill School. They just tied the Hawks on the Eastern Shore. In Breakers form they lost to them twice too in the NYPLL.

That 91 force could be a lot better if they had the right pieces. Seem to fade as season goes on every year.

Please expand on what you mean by the "right pieces". Strange comment to throw out there when the team is being talked about as in the top 5.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Brilliant. Actually, as you may have guessed, that wasn't my response, but ironically that low intellect comment is 99% of the reason for my dislike - not saying all ages and levels, but in my experience, the Looneys parents are just plain embarrassing. Every game, screaming and whining, cussing and complaining, especially when losing. Thankfully, I don't live in MD, so Looneys wouldn't ever be an option, but if I were from that area I'd definitely look elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Force dominate all below? That is just silly. They tied Rising Sons at the Hill School. They just tied the Hawks on the Eastern Shore. In Breakers form they lost to them twice too in the NYPLL.

That 91 force could be a lot better if they had the right pieces. Seem to fade as season goes on every year.

I'm pretty sure all teams could be a lot better if they had the "right pieces" - that's every team in every sport. It really makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Brilliant. Actually, as you may have guessed, that wasn't my response, but ironically that low intellect comment is 99% of the reason for my dislike - not saying all ages and levels, but in my experience, the Looneys parents are just plain embarrassing. Every game, screaming and whining, cussing and complaining, especially when losing. Thankfully, I don't live in MD, so Looneys wouldn't ever be an option, but if I were from that area I'd definitely look elsewhere.

I've seen Crush, Crabs, FCA, Looney's, Terps, Legacy, 91 MD and Hawks all lose. By far the biggest whiners were Crush last year at beach lax. By far!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Brilliant. Actually, as you may have guessed, that wasn't my response, but ironically that low intellect comment is 99% of the reason for my dislike - not saying all ages and levels, but in my experience, the Looneys parents are just plain embarrassing. Every game, screaming and whining, cussing and complaining, especially when losing. Thankfully, I don't live in MD, so Looneys wouldn't ever be an option, but if I were from that area I'd definitely look elsewhere.

I understand, most people dislike the teams they can't beat.

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

knowingly playing an older team is one thing, but playing a team labeled as 2020, and in reality has many 2019 players is another all together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

Wow, maybe one of the dumbest responses on this topic, and that's saying a lot. So I should be able to stick whatever players I like on a team, even if they are older and have never played on the team, and if the other team complains, tell them to shut up and just thank me for giving them stronger competition!! No rules, no maintaining the spirit of the game or sportsmanship. This is why people dismiss the Crabs organziation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

knowingly playing an older team is one thing, but playing a team labeled as 2020, and in reality has many 2019 players is another all together.

Amazing how a Crab will continue to defend what they did at Beach Lax was not wrong and what they have done to this sport and continue to do to the sport, isn't wrong. Their singular focus is for the parents to be able to say junior is an early committ.

Keep whining. Meanwhile our guys keep committing.

LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Brilliant. Actually, as you may have guessed, that wasn't my response, but ironically that low intellect comment is 99% of the reason for my dislike - not saying all ages and levels, but in my experience, the Looneys parents are just plain embarrassing. Every game, screaming and whining, cussing and complaining, especially when losing. Thankfully, I don't live in MD, so Looneys wouldn't ever be an option, but if I were from that area I'd definitely look elsewhere.

I've seen Crush, Crabs, FCA, Looney's, Terps, Legacy, 91 MD and Hawks all lose. By far the biggest whiners were Crush last year at beach lax. By far!

Rightly so although Crush had no display of unsportsmanlike behavior in the face of the most blatant unsportsmanlike behavior by Crabs. Crabs played kids that were rostered on 2019 and then those same players played the following week back on 2019. A truly talented team does not need to manipulate rules. Aloha should have stepped in but we all know Crabs and Aloha partner on other events and Aloha has no interest in upsetting that cart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

Wow, maybe one of the dumbest responses on this topic, and that's saying a lot. So I should be able to stick whatever players I like on a team, even if they are older and have never played on the team, and if the other team complains, tell them to shut up and just thank me for giving them stronger competition!! No rules, no maintaining the spirit of the game or sportsmanship. This is why people dismiss the Crabs organziation.

I prefer another team bringing in a few ringers and beating my son's team by 1 in a competitive intense game instead of my son's team blowing them out. I am sorry I prefer even competition. I have no relationship to the crabs. If I was a Crush parent I would prefer games like the beach lax game to the 30-0 debacle in the WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am no fan of Crush - but - in the case of the Beach Lax loss - they had a right to whine. Crabs sandbagged the game with 2019 players. Typical Jumbo Lump cheating...

If your goal is to have your son play good competition and get better why would you whine? I would much rather see my son lose close then blow a team out. My son plays D so I may be biased but I don't see any point in going to these tournaments and having him watch the game the whole time because the ball is on the other side of the field.

knowingly playing an older team is one thing, but playing a team labeled as 2020, and in reality has many 2019 players is another all together.

Amazing how a Crab will continue to defend what they did at Beach Lax was not wrong and what they have done to this sport and continue to do to the sport, isn't wrong. Their singular focus is for the parents to be able to say junior is an early committ.

early committs?...you mean cocktail scholarships! the only place they matter is at happy hour while mommy and daddy are sucking down their vodka martini!

Saw Crush play last weekend in box tourney and they were by far the most talented kids...but also the dirtiest players I've ever seen. No need for that IMO since they already have the best talent. Lose the attitude and cheap shots and let your talent/results speak for themselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw Crush play last weekend in box tourney and they were by far the most talented kids...but also the dirtiest players I've ever seen. No need for that IMO since they already have the best talent. Lose the attitude and cheap shots and let your talent/results speak for themselves

when crabs beat them at beach lax, Crush got downright dirty!

I wish everyone on this site would stop calling physical play "dirty ".
Just because little Johnny gets hit going to the cage doesn't make a player dirty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep whining. Meanwhile our guys keep committing.

LOL.

Typical Crab response. It is a shame you(and your son) will never really know if your son could have made it without manipulating the rules in order to get that commitment. Folks are not jealous of you - they feel sorry for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish everyone on this site would stop calling physical play "dirty ".
Just because little Johnny gets hit going to the cage doesn't make a player dirty.

That statement shows you don't know the difference between physical and dirty. Plus, this year refs are going to be looking for "excessive hits", though not dirty but excessive and time will be served for those types of hits. I've seen clean hits that were excessive and a penalty was called and time served. On some of those hits if I were the ref it would be 2 min. non releasable and then if the same player does it again, another penalty and toss his butt out of the game. Only way this crap is going to be controlled.

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wish everyone on this site would stop calling physical play "dirty ".
Just because little Johnny gets hit going to the cage doesn't make a player dirty.

physical play is acceptable, it is a contact sport. throwing punches is not

Great skills but they play dirty to try and intimidate. Whenever the ref is not looking, they step on feet, jab kids with their sticks,etc. what is even worse is how the 91 parents cheer on this dirty behavior.

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Looney dad always trying to make there team relevant. Your not there go beat someone. Playing close w crabs and crush (in one game) doesn't make you elite. Go win one of those Crabs already handled you and having played against you this fall and seeing crush your looking at another significant loss. By the way you talk on these boards chances are they won't look past you this time and your gonna feel it. Not a big fan of Crush mainly because we want to beat them but every time I see Crush it's usually people playing "dirty " against them. IMO 91 Maryland will beat Looneys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney dad always trying to make there team relevant. Your not there go beat someone. Playing close w crabs and crush (in one game) doesn't make you elite. Go win one of those Crabs already handled you and having played against you this fall and seeing crush your looking at another significant loss. By the way you talk on these boards chances are they won't look past you this time and your gonna feel it. Not a big fan of Crush mainly because we want to beat them but every time I see Crush it's usually people playing "dirty " against them. IMO 91 Maryland will beat Looneys

. How in the world would you know/assume it is a Looney's dad. If I follow your flawed logic it is somewhat easy to assume your are either Crabs or 91 Maryland. Yep, I know now you can easily deny this so to avoid being called out. I saw part of the Looney's/Crabs game few weeks ago. It is obvious Crabs is not a 2020 team, they are 2019, deny it all you want but everyone will call bs on any denial, Also saw 91 Maryland, they have a long way to go to beat Looney's or any top 2 to 4 team. And no, I have no connection to Looney's or any Maryland team. So no need to go down that road.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great skills but they play dirty to try and intimidate. Whenever the ref is not looking, they step on feet, jab kids with their sticks,etc. what is even worse is how the 91 parents cheer on this dirty behavior.

I heard that the parents have a bounty system for dirty play and also horns on their heads!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Can you remember the number the punks hung up on your sons team? I bet you were too busy counting uncalled penalties to notice how good and clean their play is. It's a physical sport. Used to be played as a surrogate for tribal war. Don't cry like a baby because your son will see you whining and think it's ok. He still wants to look up to you, so don't give him weak excuses as the right response to losing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.

Are your upgrades in the form if holdbacks? Would you be willing to play in age based tournaments?

What about the kid who played on 2019 orange team last year, now magically appears on Crush roster?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We established that the refs changed the game in Looney's favor (no surprise since we were in Looney's country).

Keep hating on the #1 club in America.

LOL - it was a Crabs tourney, actually. So, the refs changed the game in Looneys' favor so dramatically that they lost 10-0? I watched the game - trust me, with the exception of making half the Looneys players leave the field to give MadLax a 2 on 1 advantage, there is nothing that would have affected the outcome of the game. And I don't like Looneys - at all - but unfortunately it was a good old fashioned a** whoopin.

Why your dislike for Looney's? Just curious.

because my kid keeps getting cut. We are stuck playing for FCA blue every year. He would play Crabs 2020, but he doesn't have his drivers license yet.

Brilliant. Actually, as you may have guessed, that wasn't my response, but ironically that low intellect comment is 99% of the reason for my dislike - not saying all ages and levels, but in my experience, the Looneys parents are just plain embarrassing. Every game, screaming and whining, cussing and complaining, especially when losing. Thankfully, I don't live in MD, so Looneys wouldn't ever be an option, but if I were from that area I'd definitely look elsewhere.

I understand, most people dislike the teams they can't beat.

Actually, I don't play lacrosse any longer, my son does, so I wouldn't be beating anyone - you must be one of the parents that forgets that it's not you out on the field LOL. Unfortunately, my son's team didn't get a chance to play Looneys, but they will. When they do, I'll make sure to bring a big box of Kleenex for you ;-)

91 Crush has holdbacks, so LI dad's can shut up now.d

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Crush has holdbacks, so LI dad's can shut up now.d

So do Looneys, Crabs, fl$, Legacy, FCA, 3D. Mad Lax, Rising Sons and on and on. That's what makes the bravado and constant chest thumping so absurd. Every top team has holdbacks. You all do it and then you beat up on teams that play by the rules and come on here and brag about it. Field a team with all age appropriate players, go run the table and then you'll have something to legitimately brag about.

Funny only place Maryland teams get it done is on a message board, hey gotta win somewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Crush has holdbacks, so LI dad's can shut up now.d

So do Looneys, Crabs, fl$, Legacy, FCA, 3D. Mad Lax, Rising Sons and on and on. That's what makes the bravado and constant chest thumping so absurd. Every top team has holdbacks. You all do it and then you beat up on teams that play by the rules and come on here and brag about it. Field a team with all age appropriate players, go run the table and then you'll have something to legitimately brag about.

Which are clubs that don't have holdbacks?

How many Crush kids do you think will reclass after this school year? Team may look very different next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

you are right...fl$ does have 1 kid with a August 01 birthday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Can you remember the number the punks hung up on your sons team? I bet you were too busy counting uncalled penalties to notice how good and clean their play is. It's a physical sport. Used to be played as a surrogate for tribal war. Don't cry like a baby because your son will see you whining and think it's ok. He still wants to look up to you, so don't give him weak excuses as the right response to losing.

LOL, you are funny, actually my son (who they cry the tears about as older player, but he is not) but a few of them on their butt. Actually, one of them had to leave the game on a great cross-crease slide. They crush kids DON'T like physical play at all. However, if my son slashed a kid as he was running away (when the ball was on the opposite end of the field and no ref was looking) I WOULD BE MORTIFIED. This is the crap I have witnessed time and time again from Crush, again I will say, they are skilled, but they are PUNKS. No crying the tears here, just cold hard facts. Also, I really could care less about wins and loses in youth lacrosse, I want my son to grow up to be a decent man and whether he is on a team that wins or loses (and they win way more than they lose) is neither here nor there!!

Actually, I don't play lacrosse any longer, my son does, so I wouldn't be beating anyone - you must be one of the parents that forgets that it's not you out on the field LOL. Unfortunately, my son's team didn't get a chance to play Looneys, but they will. When they do, I'll make sure to bring a big box of Kleenex for you ;-) [/quote]

Who is your sons team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

Couldn't agree more... Rosters should be published- period.
Many holdbacks on LI teams are age appropriate for MD teams. I'd really love to see how the 2020 landscape looks. I bet we'd all be surprised by some very old kids which we all would say are inappropriate for the grade and you'd also find some very young kids. I also bet you'd find most of the outstanding players are age appropriate because they didn't need to play down and are standing out regardless of the holdbacks. Those are the kids that will get recruited first. Talent and skill stand out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

My son does not play for the Crabs or the Crush and is not a holdback.

I will say at least the Crabs responses are rational. There is a way to game the system. They have the means and the desire to game it and if you don't like it too bad. Rightly or wrongly, they are doing what they think is best for their son and everyone else can go ____ themselves. Not the most sporting of attitudes but at least rational.

The Crush parents who are upset that someone can actually provide them with a competitive game mystify me. Do they really enjoy watching their son play a 30-0 game? Is it really so bad that one time their son lost by 1? They aren't worried about their son's safety as they sometimes play up. The only reason to be upset is that they must believe that someone is taking away their glory as the mythical best 2020 team in the country by cheating. Why do you care if the Crabs claim they are the best? You can choose to play them or not. If you do play them you can view any loss the same way you view a loss to a 2019 team. Relax and hope your team schedules some competitive games so you have something worthwhile to watch. If you are relying on some kind of perverse joy in watching your son's team blow someone else to boost your sense of self worth than you may want to take another look at your priorities.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

My son does not play for the Crabs or the Crush and is not a holdback.

I will say at least the Crabs responses are rational. There is a way to game the system. They have the means and the desire to game it and if you don't like it too bad. Rightly or wrongly, they are doing what they think is best for their son and everyone else can go ____ themselves. Not the most sporting of attitudes but at least rational.

The Crush parents who are upset that someone can actually provide them with a competitive game mystify me. Do they really enjoy watching their son play a 30-0 game? Is it really so bad that one time their son lost by 1? They aren't worried about their son's safety as they sometimes play up. The only reason to be upset is that they must believe that someone is taking away their glory as the mythical best 2020 team in the country by cheating. Why do you care if the Crabs claim they are the best? You can choose to play them or not. If you do play them you can view any loss the same way you view a loss to a 2019 team. Relax and hope your team schedules some competitive games so you have something worthwhile to watch. If you are relying on some kind of perverse joy in watching your son's team blow someone else to boost your sense of self worth than you may want to take another look at your priorities.
You briefly touched on it, a players safety. Some 2020 teams are really 2019 teams, especially Crabs, who are the wh%#es of the system. Ryan M plays it to the fullest and couldn't care less, as it is a money maker for him, his #1 objective and his second is to walk around like he is the greatest 2020 coach on earth. Crabs will never release the birth month/year of their players, why, because some, more than a few, are double holdbacks. Stating this will bring out the Crab faithful to quickly deny this and to yell and scream that everyone does it. There are quite a few 2020 teams with some holdbacks, but nothing like Crabs. Their entire foundation is built on holdbacks, at all age levels, but his team, 2020 seems to be the biggest offender. If he or Crabs want to deny this then show everyone the proof that it doesn't exist.
This leads to the second part, player safety. Older players are stronger and bigger and can cause some serious injuries playing younger players. For me personally, player safety is the #1 top priority in youth sports and it should be in the forefront. I realize lacrosse is a contact sport, but not under these conditions at the youth level, young kids 10 to 13 years old should be playing with their age appropriate counterparts, not kids 1 to 2 years older. The difference between a 12 or 13 year old and a 14/15 year old is big.

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Can you remember the number the punks hung up on your sons team? I bet you were too busy counting uncalled penalties to notice how good and clean their play is. It's a physical sport. Used to be played as a surrogate for tribal war. Don't cry like a baby because your son will see you whining and think it's ok. He still wants to look up to you, so don't give him weak excuses as the right response to losing.

LOL, you are funny, actually my son (who they cry the tears about as older player, but he is not) but a few of them on their butt. Actually, one of them had to leave the game on a great cross-crease slide. They crush kids DON'T like physical play at all. However, if my son slashed a kid as he was running away (when the ball was on the opposite end of the field and no ref was looking) I WOULD BE MORTIFIED. This is the crap I have witnessed time and time again from Crush, again I will say, they are skilled, but they are PUNKS. No crying the tears here, just cold hard facts. Also, I really could care less about wins and loses in youth lacrosse, I want my son to grow up to be a decent man and whether he is on a team that wins or loses (and they win way more than they lose) is neither here nor there!!

show me someone who doesn't keep score and I'll show you a loser. The reason your boy knocks the Crush kids on their butt as you hallucinate happened is because he is held back, and while the games against the older holdbacks might be closer in score, the difference in size is the only edge you've got and it still doesn't make it a slam dunk.

And lastly, lets hope your boy becomes a decent man despite him being ok with cheating which seems to be something he has gotten as a flaw from you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Can you remember the number the punks hung up on your sons team? I bet you were too busy counting uncalled penalties to notice how good and clean their play is. It's a physical sport. Used to be played as a surrogate for tribal war. Don't cry like a baby because your son will see you whining and think it's ok. He still wants to look up to you, so don't give him weak excuses as the right response to losing.

LOL, you are funny, actually my son (who they cry the tears about as older player, but he is not) but a few of them on their butt. Actually, one of them had to leave the game on a great cross-crease slide. They crush kids DON'T like physical play at all. However, if my son slashed a kid as he was running away (when the ball was on the opposite end of the field and no ref was looking) I WOULD BE MORTIFIED. This is the crap I have witnessed time and time again from Crush, again I will say, they are skilled, but they are PUNKS. No crying the tears here, just cold hard facts. Also, I really could care less about wins and loses in youth lacrosse, I want my son to grow up to be a decent man and whether he is on a team that wins or loses (and they win way more than they lose) is neither here nor there!!

show me someone who doesn't keep score and I'll show you a loser. The reason your boy knocks the Crush kids on their butt as you hallucinate happened is because he is held back, and while the games against the older holdbacks might be closer in score, the difference in size is the only edge you've got and it still doesn't make it a slam dunk.

And lastly, lets hope your boy becomes a decent man despite him being ok with cheating which seems to be something he has gotten as a flaw from you.

hate to say it, but it isn't cheating. U.S. LAX is a poor excuse for a governing body. they allow this occur, and do nothing to enforce any type of fair play. U.S. LAX is a joke and the board are cowards afraid of their own shadow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Jealous rant # 4002... Lets see how fast we can get to 10,000

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Jealous rant # 4002... Lets see how fast we can get to 10,000

Crabby daddy, C U Next Tursday! Luv ya strong island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

Wrong. Madlax has more holdbacks than Crabs. 100%.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Jealous rant # 4002... Lets see how fast we can get to 10,000

Crabby daddy, C U Next Tursday! Luv ya strong island.

"Jealous rant # 4002...". See, told you it wouldn't take long for the Crab faithful to come crawling out of the shi#@hole and start whining. The parents of Crabs players or even their crooked leader Ryan M himself are not embarrassed when at games, they are just too full of themselves and in their demented mind think they and the organization/players are the best. As someone correctly stated a few post ago, Crabs correct age on age are NOT a strong team, 2019, 2020 and 2021. They need a boatload of holdbacks to be competitive. Well, this should bring out more of them to defend their corrupt organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When a player cross checks another player in the back of the head as the ball is on the other side of the field, that in my book is "dirty" and not "physical". When a player slashes another player in the back of the leg (again off ball) when the ref is turned the other way, that is "dirty" and not "physical play"...that is what I witnessed

Crush did crap like that when my son'a team played them too. It is a shame because they are talented, but to me they just looked like a bunch of punks.

Can you remember the number the punks hung up on your sons team? I bet you were too busy counting uncalled penalties to notice how good and clean their play is. It's a physical sport. Used to be played as a surrogate for tribal war. Don't cry like a baby because your son will see you whining and think it's ok. He still wants to look up to you, so don't give him weak excuses as the right response to losing.

LOL, you are funny, actually my son (who they cry the tears about as older player, but he is not) but a few of them on their butt. Actually, one of them had to leave the game on a great cross-crease slide. They crush kids DON'T like physical play at all. However, if my son slashed a kid as he was running away (when the ball was on the opposite end of the field and no ref was looking) I WOULD BE MORTIFIED. This is the crap I have witnessed time and time again from Crush, again I will say, they are skilled, but they are PUNKS. No crying the tears here, just cold hard facts. Also, I really could care less about wins and loses in youth lacrosse, I want my son to grow up to be a decent man and whether he is on a team that wins or loses (and they win way more than they lose) is neither here nor there!!

show me someone who doesn't keep score and I'll show you a loser. The reason your boy knocks the Crush kids on their butt as you hallucinate happened is because he is held back, and while the games against the older holdbacks might be closer in score, the difference in size is the only edge you've got and it still doesn't make it a slam dunk.

And lastly, lets hope your boy becomes a decent man despite him being ok with cheating which seems to be something he has gotten as a flaw from you.

My son was born in 2002, he is not a hold back and I think anyone that holds their kid back is CRAZY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Jealous rant # 4002... Lets see how fast we can get to 10,000

Crabby daddy, C U Next Tursday! Luv ya strong island.

"Jealous rant # 4002...". See, told you it wouldn't take long for the Crab faithful to come crawling out of the shi#@hole and start whining. The parents of Crabs players or even their crooked leader Ryan M himself are not embarrassed when at games, they are just too full of themselves and in their demented mind think they and the organization/players are the best. As someone correctly stated a few post ago, Crabs correct age on age are NOT a strong team, 2019, 2020 and 2021. They need a boatload of holdbacks to be competitive. Well, this should bring out more of them to defend their corrupt organization.

Seems as if the pot is calling the kettle black once again. All the top teams have holdbacks, Crush included. FACT!! What point are you trying to make exactly, because I am really confused?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

My son does not play for the Crabs or the Crush and is not a holdback.

I will say at least the Crabs responses are rational. There is a way to game the system. They have the means and the desire to game it and if you don't like it too bad. Rightly or wrongly, they are doing what they think is best for their son and everyone else can go ____ themselves. Not the most sporting of attitudes but at least rational.

The Crush parents who are upset that someone can actually provide them with a competitive game mystify me. Do they really enjoy watching their son play a 30-0 game? Is it really so bad that one time their son lost by 1? They aren't worried about their son's safety as they sometimes play up. The only reason to be upset is that they must believe that someone is taking away their glory as the mythical best 2020 team in the country by cheating. Why do you care if the Crabs claim they are the best? You can choose to play them or not. If you do play them you can view any loss the same way you view a loss to a 2019 team. Relax and hope your team schedules some competitive games so you have something worthwhile to watch. If you are relying on some kind of perverse joy in watching your son's team blow someone else to boost your sense of self worth than you may want to take another look at your priorities.

This is the best post I have seen in a long time on here. And, my son doesn't play for Crush or Crabs. It is so true, the Crush faithful just CANNOT get over the fact that they lost. I can't even imagine what that ride home was like. Actually, I feel bad for those kids, sometimes you lose and you need to not make excuses. BIG DEAL, they lost a game. The world is still spinning just like it was before they lost...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is built around 5 really good kids. As soon as those kids commit, the team will implode.

Crabs and Looney's have already surpassed them anyways.

Yes, both teams are now much older... It's the MD way, just get older, because you'll never be better.

Crabs have 4 kids who reclassed to their 2020 team. 91 has two.

No difference. Plus, the world has grade based teams now - rightly or wrongly - so crying about ages is pathetic.

Ok, let's stop crying about it, but since it's now very much part of the game, let teams list months and year that each player was born. No names or specific dates. Shouldn't have anything to hide. Why doesn't Crabs take the lead?

My son does not play for the Crabs or the Crush and is not a holdback.

I will say at least the Crabs responses are rational. There is a way to game the system. They have the means and the desire to game it and if you don't like it too bad. Rightly or wrongly, they are doing what they think is best for their son and everyone else can go ____ themselves. Not the most sporting of attitudes but at least rational.

The Crush parents who are upset that someone can actually provide them with a competitive game mystify me. Do they really enjoy watching their son play a 30-0 game? Is it really so bad that one time their son lost by 1? They aren't worried about their son's safety as they sometimes play up. The only reason to be upset is that they must believe that someone is taking away their glory as the mythical best 2020 team in the country by cheating. Why do you care if the Crabs claim they are the best? You can choose to play them or not. If you do play them you can view any loss the same way you view a loss to a 2019 team. Relax and hope your team schedules some competitive games so you have something worthwhile to watch. If you are relying on some kind of perverse joy in watching your son's team blow someone else to boost your sense of self worth than you may want to take another look at your priorities.

This is the best post I have seen in a long time on here. And, my son doesn't play for Crush or Crabs. It is so true, the Crush faithful just CANNOT get over the fact that they lost. I can't even imagine what that ride home was like. Actually, I feel bad for those kids, sometimes you lose and you need to not make excuses. BIG DEAL, they lost a game. The world is still spinning just like it was before they lost...

Trust me no one cried- they went home, went to practice and beat them on live tv in a fair game. Reclass your kids if you must, to be seen and for your team to be able to compete, as they clearly showed it was a tough day for them in Denver without their older players. If anything, it showed pretty much everyone that they couldn't play competitively on age against crush with kids matched up by age and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids. But you are right- life goes on. Teams will play, wins, losses and coaches are starting to take notice. They will notice the holdbacks as they play younger kids for sure, and they will really notice the on aged kids with talent and skill that beat their older counter part on the field. Because really, if the kid was a total stud, then there would be no reason to reclass-right? Lots of pressure for a holdback to perform and not get shown up. It'll be interesting to follow the trend to see how many holdbacks are actually successfully recruited, actually see the field versus those that stayed the course.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually - there is a difference. Crabs entire 2019, 2020, 2021 program is built around holding back kids. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION has made this approach the cornerstone of their program. Gaming the system by having older kids play younger kids is what they are about - period. On age vs. on age against Looneys, 91, Hawks, FCA, etc. they are nothing to write home about it.

How the Crabs' players and their parents don't absolutley cringe with embarrassment every time they step on the field is beyond me. I guess you just ignore the fact that you just couldn't cut it playing with kids your own. It's actually nothing to be ashamed of. Playing down in order to compete; now that takes real impotence!

Jealous rant # 4002... Lets see how fast we can get to 10,000

Crabby daddy, C U Next Tursday! Luv ya strong island.

"Jealous rant # 4002...". See, told you it wouldn't take long for the Crab faithful to come crawling out of the shi#@hole and start whining. The parents of Crabs players or even their crooked leader Ryan M himself are not embarrassed when at games, they are just too full of themselves and in their demented mind think they and the organization/players are the best. As someone correctly stated a few post ago, Crabs correct age on age are NOT a strong team, 2019, 2020 and 2021. They need a boatload of holdbacks to be competitive. Well, this should bring out more of them to defend their corrupt organization.

Seems as if the pot is calling the kettle black once again. All the top teams have holdbacks, Crush included. FACT!! What point are you trying to make exactly, because I am really confused?

. FACT!, Crabs has more hold backs and some double hold backs than any 2020AA team in Md. or maybe on the east coast. Pot not even close to calling the kettle black, to use your words. That is the point, many more than any other team, not sure how that could confuse you, unless as usual Crabs people are always denying.

See I agree with "crush should just admit they lost " except they played a few weeks later and it was an absolute blowout . I remember saying I have to see this game and by the time I sat down it was 9-2 . Clearly the Crabs did something off color or Crush kids were coached and improved tremendously in less than a month. That's were the Crab argument is destroyed in addition most of their team shrunk. See as a Maryland parent the entire Crab method was fully exposed on National Tv which was tremendous, especially a Maryland native cheering hard for LI

Either you cheat or you dont. Crush cheats like the rest. Stop claiming holier than thou because you only cheat a little. Funny how your coach got up on twitter condemning holdbacks, and then took them. Sad and pathetic argument you are making. Unless all your players are Tru age shut your mouth because you are embarrassing yourself and your team. You can't play it both ways.

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Either you cheat or you dont. Crush cheats like the rest. Stop claiming holier than thou because you only cheat a little. Funny how your coach got up on twitter condemning holdbacks, and then took them. Sad and pathetic argument you are making. Unless all your players are Tru age shut your mouth because you are embarrassing yourself and your team. You can't play it both ways.

The list above is total bs and a guess by the poster to distract from Crabs and their methodology of having as many players as possible older. Show crabs roster with ages and the other teams would be proud to show theirs. These are teams that hold their own against a team with a large number of holdbacks who like to claim they are number 1.

Not bs, it's true a lot have prior bday of sept 1st 2001. Who cares it's grade base now so get over it. Besides who really cares if one team flys in players. Kids are looking for better competition. Crabs still out numbers college commits across the board. Crabs will grab 91 kids next year, one or two from Looneys, a couple from Hawks. Fca none

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See I agree with "crush should just admit they lost " except they played a few weeks later and it was an absolute blowout . I remember saying I have to see this game and by the time I sat down it was 9-2 . Clearly the Crabs did something off color or Crush kids were coached and improved tremendously in less than a month. That's were the Crab argument is destroyed in addition most of their team shrunk. See as a Maryland parent the entire Crab method was fully exposed on National Tv which was tremendous, especially a Maryland native cheering hard for LI

When kids are 12-13 years old (heck even the pros) they play differently from day to day. In June when the crabs beat crush, maybe the crabs played very well and they caught crush on an off day. And then maybe in Denver the crabs choked. Did you ever think of it that way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bs, it's true a lot have prior bday of sept 1st 2001. Who cares it's grade base now so get over it. Besides who really cares if one team flys in players. Kids are looking for better competition. Crabs still out numbers college commits across the board. Crabs will grab 91 kids next year, one or two from Looneys, a couple from Hawks. Fca none

Crabs won't be taking any players from 91md, FCA, or Looney next year, unless the kids aren't happy with their playing time. These teams have a chore group that aren't going anywhere.

Crabs won't ever purposely release their roster, they'd be embarassed to show how many older kids had to play down to get recognized and how many are needed to be the supposed number 1. Respect and admiration is earned. The majority of people have little of either for the Crab organization. Match kids age to age and watch the Crabs die off.

Again remember the cut offs are different for states- ones holdback is another's age appropriate- bring out the rosters and show true colors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs won't ever purposely release their roster, they'd be embarassed to show how many older kids had to play down to get recognized and how many are needed to be the supposed number 1. Respect and admiration is earned. The majority of people have little of either for the Crab organization. Match kids age to age and watch the Crabs die off.

Again remember the cut offs are different for states- ones holdback is another's age appropriate- bring out the rosters and show true colors.

How about the poster with the big mouth releases his roster with ages first, as it was his idea. Oh yea , you won't because your holdbacks will be exposed, comical!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not bs, it's true a lot have prior bday of sept 1st 2001. Who cares it's grade base now so get over it. Besides who really cares if one team flys in players. Kids are looking for better competition. Crabs still out numbers college commits across the board. Crabs will grab 91 kids next year, one or two from Looneys, a couple from Hawks. Fca none

Crabs won't be taking any players from 91md, FCA, or Looney next year, unless the kids aren't happy with their playing time. These teams have a chore group that aren't going anywhere.

But as usual the Crabs think everyone wants to be them and don't realize that some true athletes out there want to earn respect- not manipulate the system. Anyone who is an elite player knows the Crabs way and that is the group that has lost respect for the team and it's players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See I agree with "crush should just admit they lost " except they played a few weeks later and it was an absolute blowout . I remember saying I have to see this game and by the time I sat down it was 9-2 . Clearly the Crabs did something off color or Crush kids were coached and improved tremendously in less than a month. That's were the Crab argument is destroyed in addition most of their team shrunk. See as a Maryland parent the entire Crab method was fully exposed on National Tv which was tremendous, especially a Maryland native cheering hard for LI

When kids are 12-13 years old (heck even the pros) they play differently from day to day. In June when the crabs beat crush, maybe the crabs played very well and they caught crush on an off day. And then maybe in Denver the crabs choked. Did you ever think of it that way?

A 12/13 goal swing not buying it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. . . and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids.

As badly as for the kids on Crush that didn't get to play on TV after flying to Denver when their team was up big and coach's kid never came out?

"Trust me no one cried- they went home, went to practice "

So the Crush kids lost by 1 in a close, exciting game and apparently were motivated to go home and work harder. Isn't that what is supposed to happen in athletics? Why are the Crush parents whining and complaining? What kind of person likes to see blowouts in youth sports?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Trust me no one cried- they went home, went to practice "

So the Crush kids lost by 1 in a close, exciting game and apparently were motivated to go home and work harder. Isn't that what is supposed to happen in athletics? Why are the Crush parents whining and complaining? What kind of person likes to see blowouts in youth sports?

Should they have to play with one arm tied behind their backs? It is their call when to play on grade and when to play up. Shouldn't be up to the cheaters or you for that matter. No blowouts? Well then lets give out some of those participation trophies!

Pretty funny to read your posts crying about cheating when no cheating is occurring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. . . and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids.

As badly as for the kids on Crush that didn't get to play on TV after flying to Denver when their team was up big and coach's kid never came out?

No subs get to play....ever. I watched a game at crab feast where they were up I don't know 14-0 and the coach didn't play kids until there were less than 2 minutes. I swear. Why do parents stay?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Not true at all! The MAJORITY of school districts throughout the country use the September 1 cutoff. How can a kid born in September be a holdback when his states school system says you need to be born between 9/1/01 - 8/31/02 to be considered 2020. The vast majority use those dates!

Please educate yourself on how the rest of the US runs its schools, new your isn't the center of the universe!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

So parents that live in states with a 9/1 cutoff for starting school should have sent their fall birth date kids to school early so that in case they played club lacrosse they wouldn't seen as cheaters by parents in NY? That's comical

News flash: Grade based segmentation started in long island. All clubs, leagues and teams in MD were aged-based just a few years ago. Lot's of us here wish it would go back to that. Unfortunately it seems that cats out of the bag. Bottom line is your lacrosse leadership started the trend and other regions followed. The dates when kids start school are set by board of Ed and have nothing to do with lacrosse

Unfortunately for those of us with 9/1 compliant teams, I think the trend of starting boys later in kindergarten had already become prevalent in larger metro areas 13 or so years ago.

I think a "good" team from a larger city (all over the U.S.) often 5-8 kids older than 9/1. It may not seem like a big age difference, but on the field sometimes it's hard to believe a team is in the right grade (and that's without event talking about repeating 8th grade for lax, which I don't think is that common outside hotbed private schools yet)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. . . and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids.

As badly as for the kids on Crush that didn't get to play on TV after flying to Denver when their team was up big and coach's kid never came out?

No subs get to play....ever. I watched a game at crab feast where they were up I don't know 14-0 and the coach didn't play kids until there were less than 2 minutes. I swear. Why do parents stay?

I was in Denver, my son's team did not make the finals, however we did attend the game. I was SHOCKED to see the players on the sidelines not going into the game. I really don't get it, the game was well in hand and there was no reason that the subs couldn't have played. I just cannot imagine what the point of that was. This is youth lacrosse, not college (or HS) and I am 100% sure that every single one of those kids have worked hard and would have loved to get some quality minutes of playing time. The coaches clearly don't care about those players. Again, I MIGHT have understood if it was a close game, but it wasn't

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Smart one, most other states have a 9/1 cutoff. So a holdback would be anyone born before 9/1/01 for the class of 2020. My son is on a pretty good team and I would say 40% of his team was born before 9/1. In PA if is very common for boys that are born in June, July or August to be held back. So instead of starting school when they are a young 5 year old, they start when they have just turned 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

So parents that live in states with a 9/1 cutoff for starting school should have sent their fall birth date kids to school early so that in case they played club lacrosse they wouldn't seen as cheaters by parents in NY? That's comical

News flash: Grade based segmentation started in long island. All clubs, leagues and teams in MD were aged-based just a few years ago. Lot's of us here wish it would go back to that. Unfortunately it seems that cats out of the bag. Bottom line is your lacrosse leadership started the trend and other regions followed. The dates when kids start school are set by board of Ed and have nothing to do with lacrosse

All the mongoose from Long Island are too ignorant to realize most other states school years are based off different start and end dates as New [lacrosse]. They started this grade based crap, and are now getting beaten at their own game. The coolies from Long Island are worse than crabs at making up the rules as they go along.

First was age base - worked well, didn't need to change
Grade base (out of NY) - the system sucks, no way to enforce any age restrictions

What will NY come up with next...stay tuned!

TOTAL DRAMA YOITH LAX

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. . . and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids.

As badly as for the kids on Crush that didn't get to play on TV after flying to Denver when their team was up big and coach's kid never came out?

No subs get to play....ever. I watched a game at crab feast where they were up I don't know 14-0 and the coach didn't play kids until there were less than 2 minutes. I swear. Why do parents stay?

I was in Denver, my son's team did not make the finals, however we did attend the game. I was SHOCKED to see the players on the sidelines not going into the game. I really don't get it, the game was well in hand and there was no reason that the subs couldn't have played. I just cannot imagine what the point of that was. This is youth lacrosse, not college (or HS) and I am 100% sure that every single one of those kids have worked hard and would have loved to get some quality minutes of playing time. The coaches clearly don't care about those players. Again, I MIGHT have understood if it was a close game, but it wasn't

That's because it's only about a few. The rest pay the bills while the 4-5 coaches sons play for free. Some of them are starting to slip from the limelight, but makes no difference. Totally agree , it's not HS or college, where some of these kids will get a rude awakening. Especially the coaches kid who happens to be standing in the crease the entire game. How about being a real coach and develop the whole team that are for the most part great kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Not accurate. My son is a 2001 birthday and is not a holdback, started school at the appropriate time AND met the U based age guidelines. Majority of the country uses 9/1 as cut off -just because you do not, does not make the other kids holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. . . and sadly, the kids felt the brunt of their coaches decision. I feel badly for the kids that got benched that game for the older kids.

As badly as for the kids on Crush that didn't get to play on TV after flying to Denver when their team was up big and coach's kid never came out?

No subs get to play....ever. I watched a game at crab feast where they were up I don't know 14-0 and the coach didn't play kids until there were less than 2 minutes. I swear. Why do parents stay?

I was in Denver, my son's team did not make the finals, however we did attend the game. I was SHOCKED to see the players on the sidelines not going into the game. I really don't get it, the game was well in hand and there was no reason that the subs couldn't have played. I just cannot imagine what the point of that was. This is youth lacrosse, not college (or HS) and I am 100% sure that every single one of those kids have worked hard and would have loved to get some quality minutes of playing time. The coaches clearly don't care about those players. Again, I MIGHT have understood if it was a close game, but it wasn't

That's because it's only about a few. The rest pay the bills while the 4-5 coaches sons play for free. Some of them are starting to slip from the limelight, but makes no difference. Totally agree , it's not HS or college, where some of these kids will get a rude awakening. Especially the coaches kid who happens to be standing in the crease the entire game. How about being a real coach and develop the whole team that are for the most part great kids.

The parents and the kids are well aware of the fact that certain teams do this - if it is okay with them, why do you care why they stay? Could be factors that none of us know about. If you want equal or different playing time, find a team that shares your philosophy.

Yea he probably doesn't know what he's doing !lololol watched crush this fall specifically for this type of stuff and they played two lines of midfield evenly as well as every kid playing more than a fair amount . I know they made some changes through tryouts and that seems to of settled that issue, so perhaps the kids removed were not there. I'm not sure why it concerns anyone on such a cut throat board seems odd. It actually is very petty if you can't beat them complain how they substitute ? While there style is very unique Those boys can play The coaches kid think he'll be fine lolol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Smart one, most other states have a 9/1 cutoff. So a holdback would be anyone born before 9/1/01 for the class of 2020. My son is on a pretty good team and I would say 40% of his team was born before 9/1. In PA if is very common for boys that are born in June, July or August to be held back. So instead of starting school when they are a young 5 year old, they start when they have just turned 6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback. [/quot

You dads smell like that one bad crab out of a bushel when you crack it open. Who cares who verbally commits next summer from 2020. The word is parity. College coaches will look back and say what the [lacrosse] was I thinking in ten years. Bottom line keep the grades up, some are not the sharpest tool in e shed.

Smart one, most other states have a 9/1 cutoff. So a holdback would be anyone born before 9/1/01 for the class of 2020. My son is on a pretty good team and I would say 40% of his team was born before 9/1. In PA if is very common for boys that are born in June, July or August to be held back. So instead of starting school when they are a young 5 year old, they start when they have just turned 6

When do you think the first 2020 will commit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Not true at all! The MAJORITY of school districts throughout the country use the September 1 cutoff. How can a kid born in September be a holdback when his states school system says you need to be born between 9/1/01 - 8/31/02 to be considered 2020. The vast majority use those dates!

Please educate yourself on how the rest of the US runs its schools, new your isn't the center of the universe!

It has nothing to do with school calendars, play with kids born in the same calendar year and stop crafting a narrative that works for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do you think the first 2020 will commit

The player we all presume to commit early does not have too. Could he this year as an 8th grader sure but why? only to get scrutinized.

I think the top players will get smarter and realize they do not need to commit early. They don't need the praise. They will look at what the schools have committed in 18/19. I think a majority of the top players will be seen around soph year, although you will see a commit next Oct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

So parents that live in states with a 9/1 cutoff for starting school should have sent their fall birth date kids to school early so that in case they played club lacrosse they wouldn't seen as cheaters by parents in NY? That's comical

News flash: Grade based segmentation started in long island. All clubs, leagues and teams in MD were aged-based just a few years ago. Lot's of us here wish it would go back to that. Unfortunately it seems that cats out of the bag. Bottom line is your lacrosse leadership started the trend and other regions followed. The dates when kids start school are set by board of Ed and have nothing to do with lacrosse

All the mongoose from Long Island are too ignorant to realize most other states school years are based off different start and end dates as New [lacrosse]. They started this grade based crap, and are now getting beaten at their own game. The coolies from Long Island are worse than crabs at making up the rules as they go along.

First was age base - worked well, didn't need to change
Grade base (out of NY) - the system sucks, no way to enforce any age restrictions

What will NY come up with next...stay tuned!

TOTAL DRAMA YOITH LAX

Other sports do calendar year cutoffs, sorry you need your son to play with his friends from his grade and can't handle playing with kids his own age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do you think the first 2020 will commit

His parents will be committed for stupidity before their son commits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Not true at all! The MAJORITY of school districts throughout the country use the September 1 cutoff. How can a kid born in September be a holdback when his states school system says you need to be born between 9/1/01 - 8/31/02 to be considered 2020. The vast majority use those dates!

Please educate yourself on how the rest of the US runs its schools, new your isn't the center of the universe!

It has nothing to do with school calendars, play with kids born in the same calendar year and stop crafting a narrative that works for you.

If the movement is towards graduation year teams, how does it not have anything to do with school calendars? Maybe the NY lax community should get in line with the majority of other states with regards to school dates and such.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

So parents that live in states with a 9/1 cutoff for starting school should have sent their fall birth date kids to school early so that in case they played club lacrosse they wouldn't seen as cheaters by parents in NY? That's comical

News flash: Grade based segmentation started in long island. All clubs, leagues and teams in MD were aged-based just a few years ago. Lot's of us here wish it would go back to that. Unfortunately it seems that cats out of the bag. Bottom line is your lacrosse leadership started the trend and other regions followed. The dates when kids start school are set by board of Ed and have nothing to do with lacrosse

All the mongoose from Long Island are too ignorant to realize most other states school years are based off different start and end dates as New [lacrosse]. They started this grade based crap, and are now getting beaten at their own game. The coolies from Long Island are worse than crabs at making up the rules as they go along.

First was age base - worked well, didn't need to change
Grade base (out of NY) - the system sucks, no way to enforce any age restrictions

What will NY come up with next...stay tuned!

TOTAL DRAMA YOITH LAX

Other sports do calendar year cutoffs, sorry you need your son to play with his friends from his grade and can't handle playing with kids his own age.

My son can compete against kids in his own grade as well against kids born same calander as him. He does so in his other sport. NY clubs started the whole graduation year movement, now they are complaining because they are getting beat at their own game. A true 2020 graduate in about 40 states is born between 9/1/03 - 8/31/04, but hey, let's change it meet the NY standards that no other state has. Makes perfect sense! yoi guys are a bunch of Whiney guido [lacrosse] bags.

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys has at least 4
91 md has 3 or 4
Fca 4 or 5.

Hold backs. I call it even

The way you folks define "holdbacks" is comical. How many kids are born in 2001 vs. 2002, if you were born in 2001 you're a holdback.

Not true at all! The MAJORITY of school districts throughout the country use the September 1 cutoff. How can a kid born in September be a holdback when his states school system says you need to be born between 9/1/01 - 8/31/02 to be considered 2020. The vast majority use those dates!

Please educate yourself on how the rest of the US runs its schools, new your isn't the center of the universe!

It has nothing to do with school calendars, play with kids born in the same calendar year and stop crafting a narrative that works for you.

If the movement is towards graduation year teams, how does it not have anything to do with school calendars? Maybe the NY lax community should get in line with the majority of other states with regards to school dates and such.

As a previous poster mentioned, the majority of the country uses right around 9/1 as the grade cutoff date. Saying it has nothing to do with the school year is an asinine statement. NY happens to be in the minority - as in pretty much the ONLY district that uses a calendar year cutoff. You cannot argue with facts.

Jul. 31 � Hawaii (effective 2014-15), Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota
Aug. 1 � Arkansas, Indiana
Aug. 15 � Tennessee (effective 2014-15)
Aug. 31 � Arizona, Delaware, Kansas, New Mexico, North Carolina, Washington
Sept. 1 � Alabama, Alaska, California (effective 2014-15), Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin (19 states)
Sept. 10 � Montana
Sept. 15 � Iowa, Wyoming
Sept. 30 � District of Columbia, Louisiana, Nevada, Virginia
Oct. 1 � Colorado, Kentucky (Aug. 1 in 2017-18), Michigan (effective 2014-2015)
Oct. 15 � Maine
Jan. 1 (of the school year) � Connecticut
Local education agencies decide (the state may set a date range) � Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New [lacrosse], Ohio, Pennsylvania, Vermont

Crush parents defending that coach are pathetic. The point of youth sports is to get better and have fun (and, unfortunately, to lay the groundwork this early to be recruited).

No problem with Crush playing to win that game against Crabs. But the game was over early in the 3rd, yet they kept kids on the bench the entire game who had paid good money to fly and play in CO. You're telling me the lead wasn't secure enough to play some kids 10+ minutes when you're on national TV.

Obviously the Crush coaches only care about the 5-6 top kids, but that lack of regard for all the players/families is sad. They wanted to run up the score as much as possible against the Crabs to make a statement. That's one thing, but it's indefensible when kids sit on the bench the entire time as a result of it.

It was almost as embarrassing as them winning a game 30-0 in that tournament.

Crabs and Madlax are fair game to criticize over their holdbacks, but Crush is fair game as well.

I'm pretty sure when people refer to holdbacks they are talking about kids who were either eligible to start school and didn't or just flat out repeat a grade. The kids born from 9/1 -12/1 which is the difference your talking about is generally excepted because everyone knows different states have different cutoffs.

The system is grade based now. Regardless if you, me or everyone disagrees with it, that's what it is. Coaches just want the best kids in that particular grade, so they couldn't care less who is older or younger.

Getting upset about it on an Internet forum is pointless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When do you think the first 2020 will commit

June 2016.

But who would bet against at least a couple 2021's being committed in December 2016?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff. [/quot

You make me cheer for the crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff. [/quot

You make me cheer for the crush

be a better father and cheer for your sons team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Many holdbacks in NY are still age appropriate kids in other states. Deal with the fact that NY has better priorities and can compete without a bench full of kids 12-24 months older. We don't glorify kids that can't compete on the field by making them stars by leaving them back in the classroom. Get your priorities straight and tell your kids to toughen up and hit the books and don't buy them glory- that just makes a kid grow up weak. There will be more than enough kids getting recruited that didn't need to repeat grades or play with younger kids. Admire the hard worker in the classroom and on the field, pity the desperate, that plays and learns with younger kids. That's the hard truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Many holdbacks in NY are still age appropriate kids in other states. Deal with the fact that NY has better priorities and can compete without a bench full of kids 12-24 months older. We don't glorify kids that can't compete on the field by making them stars by leaving them back in the classroom. Get your priorities straight and tell your kids to toughen up and hit the books and don't buy them glory- that just makes a kid grow up weak. There will be more than enough kids getting recruited that didn't need to repeat grades or play with younger kids. Admire the hard worker in the classroom and on the field, pity the desperate, that plays and learns with younger kids. That's the hard truth.

Well said!! Holdback boys and their parents, you just can't ignore the negative stigma attached to playing down. This all becomes public information in the community. You think you garner respect for your son by doing that? You can't be that naive. He gets branded as the kid that couldn't cut it. No matter what he achieves on the field now, it's always diluted because of that badge. This is how you develop strong, confident young men?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Many holdbacks in NY are still age appropriate kids in other states. Deal with the fact that NY has better priorities and can compete without a bench full of kids 12-24 months older. We don't glorify kids that can't compete on the field by making them stars by leaving them back in the classroom. Get your priorities straight and tell your kids to toughen up and hit the books and don't buy them glory- that just makes a kid grow up weak. There will be more than enough kids getting recruited that didn't need to repeat grades or play with younger kids. Admire the hard worker in the classroom and on the field, pity the desperate, that plays and learns with younger kids. That's the hard truth.

accept responsibility for creating the graduation year club teams, and crating an uncontrollable monster that is youth lax. its all your fault! Crabs will be picking you apart this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Many holdbacks in NY are still age appropriate kids in other states. Deal with the fact that NY has better priorities and can compete without a bench full of kids 12-24 months older. We don't glorify kids that can't compete on the field by making them stars by leaving them back in the classroom. Get your priorities straight and tell your kids to toughen up and hit the books and don't buy them glory- that just makes a kid grow up weak. There will be more than enough kids getting recruited that didn't need to repeat grades or play with younger kids. Admire the hard worker in the classroom and on the field, pity the desperate, that plays and learns with younger kids. That's the hard truth.

do you view NY hold backs differently because they might be younger than hold backs from other regions?

First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing like a 5'8 computer keyboard tough guy who plays his kid down three years your a joke

Nope, my kid is an on age public school student for all his sports! Go talk to your NY lax community to try and change the rules next year! But remember, we will all beat you at your own game. You are a bunch cry babies!

The joke is NY can't stand losing to out of state teams who went to their graduation based teams! Next time you all decide to change the game, so some more homework first, NY is the only American state withe the Canadien birthday cutoff.

Or NY can start playing the game too and reclassing their kids and beat you at your own game. If NY is so competitive against teams loaded with holdbacks- just imagine if they loaded their teams with kids 12-24 months older too? What would happen then? Can we keep dropping our kids down? Don't worry- won't happen- we put emphasis on grades first which is why we have top notch public AND private schools. We know that smart kids taking advanced courses with athletic skill go a lot further than a kid with skill, held back 1-2 yrs to try to get recruited. I think we'd rather see our kids win in life than just on a field. Society and hovering, intrusive parents are making our kids today so soft. It's worse than a participation trophy- if your kid doesn't get a trophy, you make it possible by arranging a way he can. No faith in your kid -period.

most of your top 2020 NY teams now have holdbacks, even Crush 2020 has some, stop being a hypocrite! The graduation based teams is a monster you all created, deal with it.

Many holdbacks in NY are still age appropriate kids in other states. Deal with the fact that NY has better priorities and can compete without a bench full of kids 12-24 months older. We don't glorify kids that can't compete on the field by making them stars by leaving them back in the classroom. Get your priorities straight and tell your kids to toughen up and hit the books and don't buy them glory- that just makes a kid grow up weak. There will be more than enough kids getting recruited that didn't need to repeat grades or play with younger kids. Admire the hard worker in the classroom and on the field, pity the desperate, that plays and learns with younger kids. That's the hard truth.

do you view NY hold backs differently because they might be younger than hold backs from other regions?

[quote=Anonymous]First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School[quote=Anonymous]

Maybe your public schools aren't as good as you think, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Better hit those books, go to a remedial English class and cheer for your sons team rather than crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School[quote=Anonymous]

Maybe your public schools aren't as good as you think, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Better hit those books, go to a remedial English class and cheer for your sons team rather than crush.

Crush is going to dismantle very soon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School[quote=Anonymous]

Maybe your public schools aren't as good as you think, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Better hit those books, go to a remedial English class and cheer for your sons team rather than crush.

Crush is going to dismantle very soon

Why so? I've heard that once top kids commit, the team will fall. Wouldn't that go for all teams? I actually don't think this is the case at all, unless it is the date of all top 1-5 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School[quote=Anonymous]

Maybe your public schools aren't as good as you think, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Better hit those books, go to a remedial English class and cheer for your sons team rather than crush.

Crush is going to dismantle very soon

They are all going to the Crabs 2021 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The system is grade based now. Regardless if you, me or everyone disagrees with it, that's what it is. Coaches just want the best kids in that particular grade, so they couldn't care less who is older or younger.

Getting upset about it on an Internet forum is pointless.

No one is upset about the system being grade based, they are upset about it being broken, allowing people to take advantage of a huge loophole, at the expense of others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]First of all, NY has no top academic private schools. What a joke. Their all in PA, MD and New England states. Even Donald Trump sent his kid to PA for private school #The Hill School[quote=Anonymous]

Maybe your public schools aren't as good as you think, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. Better hit those books, go to a remedial English class and cheer for your sons team rather than crush.

Crush is going to dismantle very soon

Been hearing this for five years just stop and try to beat them
Such nonsense personally think that teams success has helped the entire 2020 class

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The system is grade based now. Regardless if you, me or everyone disagrees with it, that's what it is. Coaches just want the best kids in that particular grade, so they couldn't care less who is older or younger.

Getting upset about it on an Internet forum is pointless.

No one is upset about the system being grade based, they are upset about it being broken, allowing people to take advantage of a huge loophole, at the expense of others.

It was a bad move to go grade base, the previous system worked just fine. The grade base system is easy to manipulate and US Lax has no backbone and doesn't enforce fair play.

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Its called integrity. Coaches can email in a list of players to USALAX with photos. An ID card is issued with the photo. Could take 15 min per team and interns do it. Not hard at all. It actually can be done while getting your USALAX number.

Play in year you were born, play up, but not play down. Its that easy. Don't care if you are going to re-class or PG you play in the year you were born. Youth Soccer and Men's League does it. There are over 3 Million registered youth soccer players compared to approximately 750,000 in youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Its called integrity. Coaches can email in a list of players to USALAX with photos. An ID card is issued with the photo. Could take 15 min per team and interns do it. Not hard at all. It actually can be done while getting your USALAX number.

Play in year you were born, play up, but not play down. Its that easy. Don't care if you are going to re-class or PG you play in the year you were born. Youth Soccer and Men's League does it. There are over 3 Million registered youth soccer players compared to approximately 750,000 in youth lacrosse.

It not that they can't do it, they dont want to do it! US LAX doesn't have the backbone to stand up to the top clubs. Soccer has had the picture ID in place forever. I'm in my 40's and grew up playing soccer, we had the picture ID's when I was young, early 80's young.

Either US LAX doesn't want to enforce rules, or they aren't intelligent enough to incorporate age groups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Its called integrity. Coaches can email in a list of players to USALAX with photos. An ID card is issued with the photo. Could take 15 min per team and interns do it. Not hard at all. It actually can be done while getting your USALAX number.

Play in year you were born, play up, but not play down. Its that easy. Don't care if you are going to re-class or PG you play in the year you were born. Youth Soccer and Men's League does it. There are over 3 Million registered youth soccer players compared to approximately 750,000 in youth lacrosse.

It not that they can't do it, they dont want to do it! US LAX doesn't have the backbone to stand up to the top clubs. Soccer has had the picture ID in place forever. I'm in my 40's and grew up playing soccer, we had the picture ID's when I was young, early 80's young.

Either US LAX doesn't want to enforce rules, or they aren't intelligent enough to incorporate age groups.

US Lacrosse office is located at Homewood Field on the campus of JHU. Crabs are in bed with JHU. JHU one of the biggest offenders of early recruiting, mostly holdbacks and re-class kids. Other Big 10 and ACC programs are also offenders. Is the picture getting clearer now??? These schools want the oldest most mature "freshman" they can get. When you are getting 20 year olds instead of 17and 18 year olds in as freshman, it is a huge advantage, this is why the Coaches recruit them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Its called integrity. Coaches can email in a list of players to USALAX with photos. An ID card is issued with the photo. Could take 15 min per team and interns do it. Not hard at all. It actually can be done while getting your USALAX number.

Play in year you were born, play up, but not play down. Its that easy. Don't care if you are going to re-class or PG you play in the year you were born. Youth Soccer and Men's League does it. There are over 3 Million registered youth soccer players compared to approximately 750,000 in youth lacrosse.

It not that they can't do it, they dont want to do it! US LAX doesn't have the backbone to stand up to the top clubs. Soccer has had the picture ID in place forever. I'm in my 40's and grew up playing soccer, we had the picture ID's when I was young, early 80's young.

Either US LAX doesn't want to enforce rules, or they aren't intelligent enough to incorporate age groups.

US Lacrosse office is located at Homewood Field on the campus of JHU. Crabs are in bed with JHU. JHU one of the biggest offenders of early recruiting, mostly holdbacks and re-class kids. Other Big 10 and ACC programs are also offenders. Is the picture getting clearer now??? These schools want the oldest most mature "freshman" they can get. When you are getting 20 year olds instead of 17and 18 year olds in as freshman, it is a huge advantage, this is why the Coaches recruit them.

Holdbacks will just play in their respective graduation year. That's all. The still will be older when they graduate. PG's play an extra year after high school so they will be a year older than the normal incoming freshman. Holdbacks will still be older but will play with their grad class. Still older than the kid they graduate with so these schools will still be getting more mature player like you said but without them playing versus younger players at tournaments. Is this all about dominating younger player? Its not about getting better. When I was young I played up in my sport to get better not down. Its those who play down that think they are better for it that are actually just beating younger players. It becomes a reality check when they start facing kids their own age or older when they see the truth of the matter. They weren't good enough in their own age group and that's why they re-class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not backbone. Age cards, enforcement, etc. takes manpower, time, money, etc. Look at the NCAA. It is hard for them to investigate/enforce all the rules.

Unfortunately, college coaches want to look at Rising 9th graders, so there is no push to go back to age based youth lacrosse (and many obviously support grade based because it helps with recruiting).

Its called integrity. Coaches can email in a list of players to USALAX with photos. An ID card is issued with the photo. Could take 15 min per team and interns do it. Not hard at all. It actually can be done while getting your USALAX number.

Play in year you were born, play up, but not play down. Its that easy. Don't care if you are going to re-class or PG you play in the year you were born. Youth Soccer and Men's League does it. There are over 3 Million registered youth soccer players compared to approximately 750,000 in youth lacrosse.

It not that they can't do it, they dont want to do it! US LAX doesn't have the backbone to stand up to the top clubs. Soccer has had the picture ID in place forever. I'm in my 40's and grew up playing soccer, we had the picture ID's when I was young, early 80's young.

Either US LAX doesn't want to enforce rules, or they aren't intelligent enough to incorporate age groups.

US Lacrosse office is located at Homewood Field on the campus of JHU. Crabs are in bed with JHU. JHU one of the biggest offenders of early recruiting, mostly holdbacks and re-class kids. Other Big 10 and ACC programs are also offenders. Is the picture getting clearer now??? These schools want the oldest most mature "freshman" they can get. When you are getting 20 year olds instead of 17and 18 year olds in as freshman, it is a huge advantage, this is why the Coaches recruit them.

Yes, college coaches, all things being equal, want the 20 year old frosh over the 18 year old. But a move towards age based youth competition does not stop the college coach from doing this. The double hold backs can still happen, and these boys can still enter college at 20 if they choose to. They will just be playing club lacrosse vs boys born in their same year.
With earlier and earlier recruiting no one on this site has ever offered a logical explanation as to why coaches wouldn't prefer age based for evaluation purposes. If I am looking to offer a rising 9th grader after watching him all summer, and the kid is 16, I would rather he have played vs only 16 year old. Then I know he is good. But watching him dominate teams made up of mostly 14 year olds. This tells me far less, and as such, my offer is riskier.
I would think the club coaches would prefer it as well. I think they get more kids and have more teams with an age based system. This means more money. Yes, many of these teams will be B teams - oh my god, the dreaded B team - but more families I think would sign there kids up for summer lacrosse in an age based world.

US Lacrosse office is located at Homewood Field on the campus of JHU. Crabs are in bed with JHU. JHU one of the biggest offenders of early recruiting, mostly holdbacks and re-class kids. Other Big 10 and ACC programs are also offenders. Is the picture getting clearer now??? These schools want the oldest most mature "freshman" they can get. When you are getting 20 year olds instead of 17and 18 year olds in as freshman, it is a huge advantage, this is why the Coaches recruit them. [/quote]

Hopkins has no special relationship with Crabs. Hopkins coaches kids play for other clubs. Some Crabs go onto to play at JHU because they are special players such as Stanwicks.

You guys are confusing 2 issues- age verification and grade vs age segmentation. US lacrosse not perfect but they have come out with best practices which includes organizing by age in single year increments u11, u12, u13 etc. I've heard they are going to announce an age verification process soon. Of course age verification means nothing when clubs, leagues and tournaments are organized by grade. USL can't compel a tournament organizer to be age-based. Tournaments will organize in way that maximizes the # of teams. Since clubs are almost universally organized by grade that's how the tournaments are run. Grade based teams originated on Long Island and everyone followed. Your teams are at an age disadvantage in the grade based world. LI parents- push LI clubs to go back to age and tournaments will follow and then other regions will too. Otherwise stop complaining about a system that your lax leadership created

Correct me if I am wrong.

the original set up was a two year gap of age under the U designation. This allowed regions with low enrollment to have 2 years play together and form a team.

Then the areas who could form teams with the oldest boys formed one team. These teams exposed those teams that had boys across the 2 years. These teams were generally boys from one grade.

Then teams migrated to grade.

For a bit grade was okay with a few K-holdbacks, then people connected the dots. they realized what could be done and what had been done by the prep families, giving some of them credit they originally played their sons up for the challenge... but then many more became wise (sneaky) and said my older son wasn't constrained by an age range anymore and can play and look better against younger players. This will help in recruitment.

cant blame college coaches as a freshman is a freshman (regardless of age). That is a business and is best for business.

Long Island has better Deli's, pizza and bagels! What are you going to do about it Maryland? Huh? Hold your bagels back? Reclass your deli's? Age your pizza dough!?!?! We'll still win! What do you got? Crabs? Use the medicated shampoo and comb, that should get rid of them!

I actually will bet that in a few years college coaches will be burnt by this enough to start catching on. Just because you look great as a 9th grader (only because you are older) doesn't mean you will look that much better once the other kids mature. I would be VERY NERVOUS is my kid was older and looked like a stud. You don't know if they are truly a stud, or do they just look that way because they are older. I don't know about you, but my son actually wants to PLAY in college, so having a "verbal" as a ninth grader means nothing if the kid ends up getting beaten out and then is never able to actually get onto the field when he actually gets to college. BUT, I do think there at quite a few people that are only worried about getting a verbal so they can brag that their kid is "doing to play at ____". Seems a little backwards to me...

So the other interesting side note is the lucrative showcase racket. Today they are marketed to 8th graders on up. If they changed the recruiting rules and you literally could have no contact until junior year that would seriously impact people that are currently selling the dream. Presumably most would see it as foolish to go to a showcase where nothing could develop. What would be the point of that? I would think the college coaches would welcome it. Fewer events to attend, less travel a more refined "product" to evaluate, etc in terms of size skill, grades, standardized test scores and more. Right now though it is a nuclear arms race and you either participate in early recruiting or potentially lose out. NCAA needs to step up and force all sides to lower their weapons and leave these kids alone until they're juniors. We can all calm down, the process will be more rational..... and the only ones left crying will be the showcase companies as their money grabs take a hit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the other interesting side note is the lucrative showcase racket. Today they are marketed to 8th graders on up. If they changed the recruiting rules and you literally could have no contact until junior year that would seriously impact people that are currently selling the dream. Presumably most would see it as foolish to go to a showcase where nothing could develop. What would be the point of that? I would think the college coaches would welcome it. Fewer events to attend, less travel a more refined "product" to evaluate, etc in terms of size skill, grades, standardized test scores and more. Right now though it is a nuclear arms race and you either participate in early recruiting or potentially lose out. NCAA needs to step up and force all sides to lower their weapons and leave these kids alone until they're juniors. We can all calm down, the process will be more rational..... and the only ones left crying will be the showcase companies as their money grabs take a hit.

let's hope that happens! Woman's D1 coaches are trying to get it done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island has better Deli's, pizza and bagels! What are you going to do about it Maryland? Huh? Hold your bagels back? Reclass your deli's? Age your pizza dough!?!?! We'll still win! What do you got? Crabs? Use the medicated shampoo and comb, that should get rid of them!

Maryland has Baltimore as it's shining star. That sums it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island has better Deli's, pizza and bagels! What are you going to do about it Maryland? Huh? Hold your bagels back? Reclass your deli's? Age your pizza dough!?!?! We'll still win! What do you got? Crabs? Use the medicated shampoo and comb, that should get rid of them!

the shampoo and comb didn't work with your wife!

better pit beef as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I actually will bet that in a few years college coaches will be burnt by this enough to start catching on. Just because you look great as a 9th grader (only because you are older) doesn't mean you will look that much better once the other kids mature. I would be VERY NERVOUS is my kid was older and looked like a stud. You don't know if they are truly a stud, or do they just look that way because they are older. I don't know about you, but my son actually wants to PLAY in college, so having a "verbal" as a ninth grader means nothing if the kid ends up getting beaten out and then is never able to actually get onto the field when he actually gets to college. BUT, I do think there at quite a few people that are only worried about getting a verbal so they can brag that their kid is "doing to play at ____". Seems a little backwards to me...

All very good points. And like your son, my son would like to play and not watch from the sidelines. We know a young man who went to Syracuse to play lacrosse and saw very little time in only 4 games during his 4 years on the team. Tough place to be if you ask me. The world is not all about DI, there are great opportunities for a high quality education (more importantly) and amazing lacrosse experiences at many DII and DIII programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island has better Deli's, pizza and bagels! What are you going to do about it Maryland? Huh? Hold your bagels back? Reclass your deli's? Age your pizza dough!?!?! We'll still win! What do you got? Crabs? Use the medicated shampoo and comb, that should get rid of them!

the shampoo and comb didn't work with your wife!

better pit beef as well.

Raw beef sandwich in downtown Baltimore. yikes

Lol. I can't believe you'd bring my wife into this! GO LI !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol. I can't believe you'd bring my wife into this! GO LI !

It was an unforgettable evening

Yes, she told me.

Any place to get discounted box goalie gear?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any place to get discounted box goalie gear?

Why would anyone want to play box goalie? Use the same money to hire a goalie coach....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any place to get discounted box goalie gear?

Why would anyone want to play box goalie? Use the same money to hire a goalie coach....

maybe they just enjoy the box game?

Why would anyone want to play box goalie? Use the same money to hire a goalie coach.... [/quote]

Does anyone have a good goalie coach in Nassau? If not western Suffolk?

Maybe the kid plays hockey and is looking for another way to train. If you don't have an answer to a legitimate question you should STFU and don't post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe the kid plays hockey and is looking for another way to train. If you don't have an answer to a legitimate question you should STFU and don't post.

The two positions are different, that said, I don't know why anyone would care what others want to do. As for equiptment, might look into hockey monkey on line for equiptment. The equiptment for this position is very expensive.

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

Hope this happens. US Lacrosse has been useless, maybe the NCAA will do the right thing! And, yes, there will be some very unhappy money grabbers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

Hope this happens. US Lacrosse has been useless, maybe the NCAA will do the right thing! And, yes, there will be some very unhappy money grabbers!

This is great. Let's hope it happens. Maybe the 2019 and 2020 can just go enjoy their summer, play, and have a great time. Soooooo many people will be losing money if this happens. It simply cuts out entire age groups at this showcase events. My sons program does it right. I always here the coaches and director just saying...get better. That is all you need to worry about at the 2019,2020, 2021 level. Just get better.

Watch the mad scramble for the 2019 and 2020's if this comes to fruition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

Hope this happens. US Lacrosse has been useless, maybe the NCAA will do the right thing! And, yes, there will be some very unhappy money grabbers!

This is great. Let's hope it happens. Maybe the 2019 and 2020 can just go enjoy their summer, play, and have a great time. Soooooo many people will be losing money if this happens. It simply cuts out entire age groups at this showcase events. My sons program does it right. I always here the coaches and director just saying...get better. That is all you need to worry about at the 2019,2020, 2021 level. Just get better.

Whats the deal with this Philly Mesa? They went 3-9 today at IMG Nationals vs soso competition. I thought they were the "program" to be with in Philly? Terrible showing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watch the mad scramble for the 2019 and 2020's if this comes to fruition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

Hope this happens. US Lacrosse has been useless, maybe the NCAA will do the right thing! And, yes, there will be some very unhappy money grabbers!

This is great. Let's hope it happens. Maybe the 2019 and 2020 can just go enjoy their summer, play, and have a great time. Soooooo many people will be losing money if this happens. It simply cuts out entire age groups at this showcase events. My sons program does it right. I always here the coaches and director just saying...get better. That is all you need to worry about at the 2019,2020, 2021 level. Just get better.

Agree 100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Uh oh. Maybe no early recruiting soon? What will all these clubs do? What will all these tournament/showcase events do? If this goes into affect, no need to start spending all this $$ to go to florida or for events like Inside Lacrosse which charges about $8000/team at the 2020/2019 level. Maybe it will fix the problem with all these kids reclassifying because of the early recruiting? Maybe now tournament will throw a max age limit on grad year tournaments.

I'd say this would definitely curtail the reclass situation. Why drop down to play younger players, for when the coaches really start looking, the advantage is minimized as many more kids will have hit puberty. Sucks for those kids that reclassed as 2019 and 2020 if this does go through. It just never is a good idea to try and game a system anyway. In all these cases, education should trump athletics and a much later recruiting start will certainly allow kids to grow, develop and level the playing field.

Amen sister, hope it goes thru. All the top teams will lose 5-6 players. The teams that still qualify for age base moving on up:)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whats the deal with this Philly Mesa? They went 3-9 today at IMG Nationals vs soso competition. I thought they were the "program" to be with in Philly? Terrible showing.

Was there an age requirement? Always slips up teams from PA,MD and Mass....

This will be great on so many levels. Cheaper tournaments and elimination of the farce of some of the tournaments that are showcase events. Kids can go back to having fun and trying win a champions T-shirt. It will be great to play to win again and not hear "the college coaches don't care if you win or lose"! Winning is not the most important thing, but it is nice to win as a by product of being very good.

Dying to see how long the NCAA sits on this could take a long time.

Who said they are the best team in Philly? At 2020 Sons are the best and HHH is second best.

This ruling should play right into the 2020 player's hands. There will a rush to lock kids up. Good for Crush. All of those kids will be off the board by this time next year.

If it passes it would go into affect 8/1/16. Do you think a coach would verbal a bunch of kids and then not be able to talk to them until 9/1/18? I guess there will either be a whole bunch of verbals or very few at all. I guess time will tell.

Yes great for crush, horrible news for Outlaws and Gladiators, etc., moron.

Unfortunately this ruling will speed it up for all the kids in 2020 especially Crush and it will impact express, crabs and few others as clubs established before this years summer.

It will be a positive for 99% of kids who are not in the same boat as the 2-3 uber elite players on the top teams. It will specifically be great for kids with some talent who have not physically matured in 8th grade but will probably catch up to the "man-child" post puberty superstars. The playing field will be more level by the time they reach late 10th-early 11th grade. Right now it is often about just who is biggest and most physically mature.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will specifically be great for kids with some talent who have not physically matured in 8th grade but will probably catch up to the "man-child" post puberty superstars. The playing field will be more level by the time they reach late 10th-early 11th grade. Right now it is often about just who is biggest and most physically mature.

I sure hope this is the case. I'm not aware of any link between hitting puberty early and ultimate athletic ability.

The idea that college prospect camps would be limited to kids who haven't even played their sophomore season of lacrosse is insane. Flipping it so that the focus is on kids who have finished 10th grade (even if they track younger kids) is far superior for everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will specifically be great for kids with some talent who have not physically matured in 8th grade but will probably catch up to the "man-child" post puberty superstars. The playing field will be more level by the time they reach late 10th-early 11th grade. Right now it is often about just who is biggest and most physically mature.

I sure hope this is the case. I'm not aware of any link between hitting puberty early and ultimate athletic ability.

The idea that college prospect camps would be limited to kids who haven't even played their sophomore season of lacrosse is insane. Flipping it so that the focus is on kids who have finished 10th grade (even if they track younger kids) is far superior for everyone.

I don't know how you can say a child hitting puberty early doesn't effect athletic ability. I have seen it time and time again when a player who is more mature physically is deemed the best player on a team in 5th even 6th grade because he hits puberty a bit earlier than most. He is bigger faster and a bit more skilled because of the testosterone kicking in because of puberty. Have you ever seen that long gangly kid tripping over his feet at 12 but at 14 he's more coordinated. Well it has to do with puberty and getting comfortable with your body and its overall development. Eventually the playing field evens out usually by 9th to 10th grade but it does happen. In 7th grade there was a player that was 5 inches taller than my son and you could see he was more physically developed hair on his face and legs. Well its now 10th grade and my son is a full head taller and bigger so on that 50/50 ball where that player used to win 80% of the time when they were younger now my son wins it 80%. Not saying the kids skill has diminished or my son became a superstar but as puberty kicks in a whole new physicality sets in and it does change a player overall.

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Can you be guaranteed money in early recruiting? I thought that until the letter comes for your kid to sign, any amount discussed earlier may not be the same. Do coaches actually guarantee certain amount of money to a 9th grader?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Can you be guaranteed money in early recruiting? I thought that until the letter comes for your kid to sign, any amount discussed earlier may not be the same. Do coaches actually guarantee certain amount of money to a 9th grader?

They did to mine but we have another year to go to the LOI. I'll let you know. But if they come up short then perhaps my son will think again. The money is not a game changer, but it helps make the choice. If the coach doesn't keep his word now, then what else would any of us expect down the line.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Coaches jobs are on the line. I think many of the coaches who have embraced early recruiting are on the hot seat. Look at the schools with the most early recruits most dont make the final 4. When you dont have skin in the game of course there is no risk. Its the livelihood for these coaches. I feel that many do it just not to miss the studs but I also think for the late bloomer that has the skill to play lacrosse at the highest level gets picked up in 11th and 12 grade. This has resulted in the parody we see today.

They should go get a real job. They would make more and be able to spend more time with their families.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Read it again....he is saying in the short term the kids who hit puberty early have an advantage but that decreases over time as kids who grow later catch up and maybe surpass them in size and strength.

I do get it but with this early recruiting players are deemed the best in 7th 8th and even 9th grade and early puberty is the main reason for disparity at the young ages. Early puberty is no indicator of ultimate athletic ability but it does play a role on what teams these kids play on and what looks they get at an earlier age.
The whole early recruiting is really interesting because coaches are taking a risk on players that really have not fully matured. I do get talent is talent but given two players of equal talent at 14-16 but one has hit puberty 99% of the the time the one who has hit it will be better at that moment. In my opinion the early recruiting and the expansion of the sport has resulted in the overall parody of the sport. Thats why you have close games between colleges that maybe 20 years ago wouldnt have even been close. I think its not a science but pot luck when you commit a kid in 9th or even 10th.

Where is the risk. Typically the coaches are offering to pay for book money. Most of these kids have their parents paying the freight. If they turn out to be good players great. If not they ride the pine or transfer. ER is a win/win for the coaches.

Coaches jobs are on the line. I think many of the coaches who have embraced early recruiting are on the hot seat. Look at the schools with the most early recruits most dont make the final 4. When you dont have skin in the game of course there is no risk. Its the livelihood for these coaches. I feel that many do it just not to miss the studs but I also think for the late bloomer that has the skill to play lacrosse at the highest level gets picked up in 11th and 12 grade. This has resulted in the parody we see today.

Really??? Name the big time early recruiter/big time coach that is on the hot seat. C'mon.....you contradicted yourself in your answer...these coaches offer little to get kids/parents to commit. If these coaches actually get 3 starters/year they are golden. The rest ride the pine with daddy paying the way.

Most kids that go early are offered scholarships! Come to grips with that it's the truth

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will specifically be great for kids with some talent who have not physically matured in 8th grade but will probably catch up to the "man-child" post puberty superstars. The playing field will be more level by the time they reach late 10th-early 11th grade. Right now it is often about just who is biggest and most physically mature.

I sure hope this is the case. I'm not aware of any link between hitting puberty early and ultimate athletic ability.

The idea that college prospect camps would be limited to kids who haven't even played their sophomore season of lacrosse is insane. Flipping it so that the focus is on kids who have finished 10th grade (even if they track younger kids) is far superior for everyone.

I don't know how you can say a child hitting puberty early doesn't effect athletic ability. I have seen it time and time again when a player who is more mature physically is deemed the best player on a team in 5th even 6th grade because he hits puberty a bit earlier than most. He is bigger faster and a bit more skilled because of the testosterone kicking in because of puberty. Have you ever seen that long gangly kid tripping over his feet at 12 but at 14 he's more coordinated. Well it has to do with puberty and getting comfortable with your body and its overall development. Eventually the playing field evens out usually by 9th to 10th grade but it does happen. In 7th grade there was a player that was 5 inches taller than my son and you could see he was more physically developed hair on his face and legs. Well its now 10th grade and my son is a full head taller and bigger so on that 50/50 ball where that player used to win 80% of the time when they were younger now my son wins it 80%. Not saying the kids skill has diminished or my son became a superstar but as puberty kicks in a whole new physicality sets in and it does change a player overall.

Agreed. I think players get a lot more athletic when they hit puberty, quite apart from size.

If recruiting gets pushed back, then what I hope is that the very athletic, highly skilled kid who hits puberty late is no longer shut out of the ER game. A world where recruiting classes are full before the kids even play a HS game as a sophomore is crazy, as is a world where prospect days aren't even open to juniors.

What teams are playing in NYPLL this year??

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

But is this binding? Especially if they notice a decline in the play as you get closer to graduating? There has to be some feedback on this, but I guess it would be from the older kids, not on this thread. I'm thinking nothing is binding as there is no contract/letter signed, but a gentleman agreement to stay true to your word to uphold ones reputation. But a coach could be gone by then or find a better player etc. Doesnt seem like kids are honoring their commitments 100%, so I would gather this may be happening with coaches as well. It sounds great in theory, but I'd be nervous until that letter came. Great for the families that can afford it either way- it'd be nice to be in those shoes, but most are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will specifically be great for kids with some talent who have not physically matured in 8th grade but will probably catch up to the "man-child" post puberty superstars. The playing field will be more level by the time they reach late 10th-early 11th grade. Right now it is often about just who is biggest and most physically mature.

I sure hope this is the case. I'm not aware of any link between hitting puberty early and ultimate athletic ability.

The idea that college prospect camps would be limited to kids who haven't even played their sophomore season of lacrosse is insane. Flipping it so that the focus is on kids who have finished 10th grade (even if they track younger kids) is far superior for everyone.

I don't know how you can say a child hitting puberty early doesn't effect athletic ability. I have seen it time and time again when a player who is more mature physically is deemed the best player on a team in 5th even 6th grade because he hits puberty a bit earlier than most. He is bigger faster and a bit more skilled because of the testosterone kicking in because of puberty. Have you ever seen that long gangly kid tripping over his feet at 12 but at 14 he's more coordinated. Well it has to do with puberty and getting comfortable with your body and its overall development. Eventually the playing field evens out usually by 9th to 10th grade but it does happen. In 7th grade there was a player that was 5 inches taller than my son and you could see he was more physically developed hair on his face and legs. Well its now 10th grade and my son is a full head taller and bigger so on that 50/50 ball where that player used to win 80% of the time when they were younger now my son wins it 80%. Not saying the kids skill has diminished or my son became a superstar but as puberty kicks in a whole new physicality sets in and it does change a player overall.

Agreed. I think players get a lot more athletic when they hit puberty, quite apart from size.

If recruiting gets pushed back, then what I hope is that the very athletic, highly skilled kid who hits puberty late is no longer shut out of the ER game. A world where recruiting classes are full before the kids even play a HS game as a sophomore is crazy, as is a world where prospect days aren't even open to juniors.

and how is this good for the sport. This takes away the parity that we have seen. This new way will allow the bigger schools to bully their way to the cr�me de le cr�me. Prior a CAA or Patriot could have a run at the title because of a few over looked kids. Or, just maybe, now the better students will get the better schools (and that is the end gme)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

Out of State.

NCAA Division I men's Lacrosse teams have an average roster size of 45 players but only a maximum of 12.6 scholarships to award per team. This means that the average award covers less than 30% of a typical athlete's annual college costs. Lacrosse is an equivalency sport for NCAA limits, so partial scholarships can be awarded (up to 30 per team in NCAA I) as long as the combined equivalent awards do not exceed the limit. For example, an NCAA Division I school can award 24 women lacrosse players each a 1/2 scholarship and still meet the limit of 12 per team.

There are many players who are not getting athletic money. The top players will get the lions share.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

It could mean 1/2 of total cost or 1/2 of tuition. Depends on the school. It is illegal for a school to offer instate tuition to an out of state player. One coach just got fired for doing that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

Of course he did. I cant tell you how many times we have heard that one. 1/2 of what??????. Pleeeeeeeze stop.

I also hear of some of these early commits to ivies whose parents tell everyone who will listen their kids received a scholarship. Comical. They should do their homework so they don't look stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

It could mean 1/2 of total cost or 1/2 of tuition. Depends on the school. It is illegal for a school to offer instate tuition to an out of state player. One coach just got fired for doing that.

Out of state costs are roughly twice as much as in state. So these kids are committing at 15 years old based on a promise to give them the equivalent of in state tuition? Congrats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Book money
Most of the early 2018 commits were offered 1/2 ride( including my son) why would you commit early for no money.

When players say they got a half ride to a public school like UNC, MD, or UVA do they end up paying half of the in state tuition or half of the out of state tuition (assuming they are out of state)? Also is a half ride half of tuition room and board or half of just tuition?

It could mean 1/2 of total cost or 1/2 of tuition. Depends on the school. It is illegal for a school to offer instate tuition to an out of state player. One coach just got fired for doing that.

Out of state costs are roughly twice as much as in state. So these kids are committing at 15 years old based on a promise to give them the equivalent of in state tuition? Congrats.

Basically, yeah. From someone who got a substantial scholarship from an out of state school. My so will be doing about 7 grand better than full price in state. Most kids would be doing better paying full tuition at an in state school than their lax scholarship. Plus it is a no joke full time job!

Ok book money is a bit light but close. Odds of someone getting a full or even 3/4 scholarship especially from the Long Island demographic are low. I think top players in the early recruiting game get about 20%-30%. Some a bit higher but I doubt many because lacrosse is not fully funded and it has so few scholarships 12.6 to be exact for a team of 40 or more. Most players who commit early receive more than those committing later(obvious). Until a NLI is signed you are free game for every school.

In regards to the Ivy parents saying that their child received a 1/2 or full ride. You cant because Ivys don't offer scholarships. They do offer some creative financing for athletes.

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

That's not always true. Some nlis specify the amount is guaranteed for 4 years. Yes I have seen this in writing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

Actually there are! Its called D3, yes D3. Have a friend who's son received over 65% at extremely high NESCAC. Merit and Academic money... GUARANTEED for all 4 years... In writing, from the school, not some flunkie Coach. Kid never has to step on the field. Oh, and if you knew his grades, you'd be shocked. Not even close to the average admitted non-athlete.

Why no Crush in Florida next week? I would expect them to be at the tournament, but I just looked at the schedule and they are not listed

The above post is spot on. My nephew played at one of the highest rated NESCAC schools. He had very good grades but nowhere near good enough to get in without sports. His cousin who was the Salutatorian at a HS that graduated 1500 kids didn't get in. It cost him less than his sister SUNY degree. Based on need. His parents make a combined 300k. Figure it out.

Academic always more valuable that athletic....skip your club practice and go to SAT class!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One key point to remember is that a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4 athletic scholarship at most schools is guaranteed for only the first year (and I use guarantee loosely). I have heard about one top D1 coach telling an early recruit that did not develop into the player they hoped that the coach will honor the first year but it is unlikely the player will see the field and he will not have the scholarship renewed. Too many Dads bragging about scholarships for their 15 year old son...there are no guarantees in life.

That's not always true. Some nlis specify the amount is guaranteed for 4 years. Yes I have seen this in writing!

That is why I noted "at most schools"

Because it is a joke of a tournament. They had to combine 2 grades per division for the tourney and they still only have 6 teams per division. Also, over half the teams are Madlax teams. It's crap like this that gives club lacrosse a bad name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Academic always more valuable that athletic....skip your club practice and go to SAT class!

100% Agree!

Merry Christmas everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Merry Christmas everyone.

Merry Christmas!!!

Looks like several top 2020 teams are too scared to face Madlax 2020 at the National Club Championships.

Weather's great. We'll be dominating as expected.

'We"?..when are you putting on the pads, dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like several top 2020 teams are too scared to face Madlax 2020 at the National Club Championships.

Weather's great. We'll be dominating as expected.

Are you out of your mind!! What an idiot you must be to think that ANY top 2020 team would travel to Fl. to play weak teams, led by Madlax, one of the weakest. This tournament, if you can call it that, is a total joke and even if it were free no top 2020 team would waste their time. They wouldn't even travel 5 miles to play a weak Madlax, not worth the time or effort.

wow you're an [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like several top 2020 teams are too scared to face Madlax 2020 at the National Club Championships.

Weather's great. We'll be dominating as expected.

Mama's Boyz gunna spank you!

Who are they ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow you're an [lacrosse].

Really? No, not even close but if the above post is yours then look in the mirror meathead, no one cares about Madlax and the stupid post that comes from them. Go preach your crap to maybe 2025 teams, maybe your 2020 can beat them, but not even close to beating any top 2020 team in Md or NY.

Yeahhh, uh huh, yeahh, what up? People keepin it reeeeal up in da clip o' what?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeahhh, uh huh, yeahh, what up? People keepin it reeeeal up in da clip o' what?

Who knows what kind of person you would have to be to understand this garbage. Not even close to English, guess it is more like trash talk or baby gibberish or...someone with a fifth grade education.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeahhh, uh huh, yeahh, what up? People keepin it reeeeal up in da clip o' what?

Who knows what kind of person you would have to be to understand this garbage. Not even close to English, guess it is more like trash talk or baby gibberish or...someone with a fifth grade education.

In other words, typical guys from Long Island.

Great showing by all Madlax teams today. 2019 was particularly impressive. They beat Madlax 2018 and lost to Madlax 2016-2018 by only 3 goals.

Top to bottom, we are the best club in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeahhh, uh huh, yeahh, what up? People keepin it reeeeal up in da clip o' what?

Who knows what kind of person you would have to be to understand this garbage. Not even close to English, guess it is more like trash talk or baby gibberish or...someone with a fifth grade education.

In other words, typical guys from Long Island.

Great showing by all Madlax teams today. 2019 was particularly impressive. They beat Madlax 2018 and lost to Madlax 2016-2018 by only 3 goals.

Top to bottom, we are the best club in the country.

Lol- yes- you proved you can be competitive with your club! Maybe you could have scrimmaged at home and figured that out and taken a trip to the Carribean for the family instead of a weak tournament. Congratulations on the win.

Agreed. You guys are scared to play for a national championship (or too poor to buy a plane ticket).

Can't wait to pummel you at a tournament where you have nowhere to hide.

"Top to bottom, we are the best club in the country." Um, OK then. Good for you. Glad to hear your affiliation with them makes you happy. Stay happy and go make the world a better place now. Someday you will hopefully look back on your statement and be able to laugh at yourself.

It's a shame the real tournament is in Wesley Chapel and not Fort Myers. I'm still puzzled as to how Madlax can have a tournament and call it a national championship when 11 of the 15 teams are Madlax? However I do find it funny that Madlax Georgia is the number one seed and the "National" teams are in like 4th and 5th. Let the kids play top competition and not your own weak tournaments, I'm sure they deserve it.

Mamaz Boyz??? Playing at Dicks this week. All that wonderful fundraising down the tubes. But it's all about the MESSAGE isn't it?

Sounds like a few dads had a few beers in the sun too early today. Happy New Year everyone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mamaz Boyz??? Playing at Dicks this week. All that wonderful fundraising down the tubes. But it's all about the MESSAGE isn't it?

Another stupid tournament with terrible competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mamaz Boyz??? Playing at Dicks this week. All that wonderful fundraising down the tubes. But it's all about the MESSAGE isn't it?

So the momaz boys went to Florida glad to hear my donation to them for a "cause" was spent well.......for their trip where can I get a refund for my donation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Mamaz Boyz??? Playing at Dicks this week. All that wonderful fundraising down the tubes. But it's all about the MESSAGE isn't it?

So the momaz boys went to Florida glad to hear my donation to them for a "cause" was spent well.......for their trip where can I get a refund for my donation

What are you talking about?

Here is a little ammo for you Crab parents... Last year the Team
Anybody know if this is true? Posted from the Crabs page.

"91 Crush folks got all worked up about the Crabs having hold backs come in for one tournament and beat them at the Beach.

Well the coach of that 91 Crush 2020 team also coaches a 91 Bandits 2023 team. He has his oldest son, who is on the 2020 team playing DOWN on the 2023 team in Florida right now so they can try and win the whole thing.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!!!!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little ammo for you Crab parents... Last year the Team
Anybody know if this is true? Posted from the Crabs page.

"91 Crush folks got all worked up about the Crabs having hold backs come in for one tournament and beat them at the Beach.

Well the coach of that 91 Crush 2020 team also coaches a 91 Bandits 2023 team. He has his oldest son, who is on the 2020 team playing DOWN on the 2023 team in Florida right now so they can try and win the whole thing.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!!!!"

The boy is not playing down. When he plays 2020 he is playing up 2 years. Imagine the crabs even playing age appropriate let alone playing up 2 years? That's the joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little ammo for you Crab parents... Last year the Team
Anybody know if this is true? Posted from the Crabs page.

"91 Crush folks got all worked up about the Crabs having hold backs come in for one tournament and beat them at the Beach.

Well the coach of that 91 Crush 2020 team also coaches a 91 Bandits 2023 team. He has his oldest son, who is on the 2020 team playing DOWN on the 2023 team in Florida right now so they can try and win the whole thing.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!!!!"

The boy is not playing down. When he plays 2020 he is playing up 2 years. Imagine the crabs even playing age appropriate let alone playing up 2 years? That's the joke.

You mean playing up 1 year? Should be in 7th grade. For this tournament, he is barely age appropriate. Most boys are 10 and 11, and just not as experienced as players, which I think is why people are upset. I just don't understand how a kid that has been twelve for quite sometime can play in a u11 bracket. I guess that would be a question for DICKS, not the fault of the player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little ammo for you Crab parents... Last year the Team
Anybody know if this is true? Posted from the Crabs page.

"91 Crush folks got all worked up about the Crabs having hold backs come in for one tournament and beat them at the Beach.

Well the coach of that 91 Crush 2020 team also coaches a 91 Bandits 2023 team. He has his oldest son, who is on the 2020 team playing DOWN on the 2023 team in Florida right now so they can try and win the whole thing.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!!!!"

The boy is not playing down. When he plays 2020 he is playing up 2 years. Imagine the crabs even playing age appropriate let alone playing up 2 years? That's the joke.

Crabs would have no idea what to do with an age appropriate player on their team. Almost all, if not all on their 2020 team are holdbacks with a few double holdbacks. Now, just sit back and wait for the Crab fans/parents to start yelling not true, you are wrong blah- blah- blah. Crab organization and their leader, fat [lacrosse] Ryan M are the most corrupt program in youth lacrosse, perhaps in any youth sport. This is the only way they know how to win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is a little ammo for you Crab parents... Last year the Team
Anybody know if this is true? Posted from the Crabs page.

"91 Crush folks got all worked up about the Crabs having hold backs come in for one tournament and beat them at the Beach.

Well the coach of that 91 Crush 2020 team also coaches a 91 Bandits 2023 team. He has his oldest son, who is on the 2020 team playing DOWN on the 2023 team in Florida right now so they can try and win the whole thing.

If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is!!!!"

The boy is not playing down. When he plays 2020 he is playing up 2 years. Imagine the crabs even playing age appropriate let alone playing up 2 years? That's the joke.

Crabs would have no idea what to do with an age appropriate player on their team. Almost all, if not all on their 2020 team are holdbacks with a few double holdbacks. Now, just sit back and wait for the Crab fans/parents to start yelling not true, you are wrong blah- blah- blah. Crab organization and their leader, fat [lacrosse] Ryan M are the most corrupt program in youth lacrosse, perhaps in any youth sport. This is the only way they know how to win.

It is not the only way they KNOW how to win- it is the only way they CAN win.

There are 4, maybe 5, kids on Crabs 2020 who are reclassed. Saying that most, if not all, kids on that team is a complete lie.

You can keep spreading lies, talking about a guy's weight, etc., but you are the one who looks foolish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are 4, maybe 5, kids on Crabs 2020 who are reclassed. Saying that most, if not all, kids on that team is a complete lie.

You can keep spreading lies, talking about a guy's weight, etc., but you are the one who looks foolish.

how many are summer birthdays?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are 4, maybe 5, kids on Crabs 2020 who are reclassed. Saying that most, if not all, kids on that team is a complete lie.

You can keep spreading lies, talking about a guy's weight, etc., but you are the one who looks foolish.

Sorry bud, you look foolish for your denial. Told everyone, just sit back and wait and the Crabs faithful would start showing up with their complete lies/denials. Again all we hear from the Crabs is blah-blah-blah. Must be something Ryan M told everyone to say if questioned about all of the re classed players in the organization. I personally now of two double holdbacks on their 2020 team, so just keep saying it is not true. Oh, I am being kind mentioning his weight, if people started to go into his character that would be a nightmare.

How original .

Please provide the names of the "majority" of that team that are reclassified. Otherwise shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How original .

I believe most think so. Sorry Crab dad if you don't agree, but I completely understand. Just stop and think for a minute if re classing was eliminated, Crabs would be a weak team at 2020 and other levels. The main reason I am so much against re classing is the safety factor, having 1, 2 or sometimes close to 3 year older players playing younger players. Regardless of the score or who wins the game, a players safety should be top priority. Re classing, in my opinion and many others agree, shows it is not a top priority.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please provide the names of the "majority" of that team that are reclassified. Otherwise shut up.

No, I'm not going to shut up. Read the rules of this form, names of players are not allowed, and rightfully so. Got a better idea, you provide the birth dates of all on Crabs 2020 players, no names, just dates of birth. And until you do that you need to STFU.

Long Island education, folks.

I suppose your Baltimoron education is superior.

I have had enough of deleting all of this pure crap being posted about a kid. Are you people that stupid? Hate anyone you like but leave the children out of it. Knock it off now!!!

Great showing by Madlax Nationals 2020. Lost only to Team 24/7 in pool play, and then the championship to Madlax Georgia.

Team will be ready for the spring NPYLL season.

Madlax, by the way, won 2 out of the 3 National Championships.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great showing by Madlax Nationals 2020. Lost only to Team 24/7 in pool play, and then the championship to Madlax Georgia.

Team will be ready for the spring NPYLL season.

Madlax, by the way, won 2 out of the 3 National Championships.

That's great, 90% of the teams were MadLax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great showing by Madlax Nationals 2020. Lost only to Team 24/7 in pool play, and then the championship to Madlax Georgia.

Team will be ready for the spring NPYLL season.

Madlax, by the way, won 2 out of the 3 National Championships.

Sons just won at [lacrosse]'s in Florida

Congrats to a team filled with kids who should be in 9th grade. What an impressive accomplishment!

The [lacrosse]'s Tournament is a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to a team filled with kids who should be in 9th grade. What an impressive accomplishment!

They won fair and square, met age requirements. If you didnt figure it out yet, this is a u tournament, not grade based. Why makeep a jealous comment. Congratulations to the boys, great job!

Nobody cares about the [lacrosse]'s Tournament. It has always been a joke filled with terrible teams.

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

[lacrosse]'s tourney Is a joke. National Championship...Really?? Sons ran the table b/c there was zero completion. If there was real competition they would not have made it past pool play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

That depends on how you define "reclassed" the age cut off in PA is 9/1 for kindergarten, so technically anyone that was born before 9/1/01 would be a "holdback". My bet is, this team (along with any competitive team) has a boat load of kids that started kindergarten late. The cut off for [lacrosse]'s was 6/1/01.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

That depends on how you define "reclassed" the age cut off in PA is 9/1 for kindergarten, so technically anyone that was born before 9/1/01 would be a "holdback". My bet is, this team (along with any competitive team) has a boat load of kids that started kindergarten late. The cut off for [lacrosse]'s was 6/1/01.

Either way- congratulations. They know who they played and they know the heavy hitters weren't there. No need to remind them. They went to a tourney and played the competition that was there. They won and I'm sure the boys are happy with their win. They've been around long enough now to realize this doesn't translate into being able to beat other well known teams not there- so kudos to them for the win and leave it at that. As for the ages- they fit into a U13 with [lacrosse]'s age limits. Sadly many of the tournaments don't even go by the extended range that [lacrosse]'s has- so whether they have older kids or not- it's a moot point. They played the games with other kids that fit the age criteria. It made it much more fair than many of the tournaments we all will be heading to in a few months. I hope to see an NCAA ruling come down on early recruiting and then the age issue shouldn't even be worth talking about because the advantage is minimized so much and coaches will see the leveling out as all the boys grow. Talent will rise to the top- not age.

I think it is great that Soms went down there and did well. But why the need to come on here and puff your chest, dad? We are all supposed to be impressed and now consider them a top 2020 team? The team is billed as 2020 yet has kids who could have a 6/1 birthday which is significantly different than the 9/1 in your home state of PA not to mention 12/1 in NY. I understand they played against other teams within the same age bracket but think it is misleading to bill it as a 2020 team. My son (true 2020 with a November birthday) would be 17 months younger than players on this team which holds itself out as having kids from the same graduation year. Please. Again, glad the kids did well but as long as you call it a 2020 team and feel the need to take a public victory lap you can expect criticism.

What a [lacrosse], who came on here and puffed their chest? Not one person came on here and said anything for you to make that comment. Take Crush out of the equation (right now) and Sons competes and beats every other team out there.Why are we even entertaining your stupid rant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it is great that Soms went down there and did well. But why the need to come on here and puff your chest, dad? We are all supposed to be impressed and now consider them a top 2020 team? The team is billed as 2020 yet has kids who could have a 6/1 birthday which is significantly different than the 9/1 in your home state of PA not to mention 12/1 in NY. I understand they played against other teams within the same age bracket but think it is misleading to bill it as a 2020 team. My son (true 2020 with a November birthday) would be 17 months younger than players on this team which holds itself out as having kids from the same graduation year. Please. Again, glad the kids did well but as long as you call it a 2020 team and feel the need to take a public victory lap you can expect criticism.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a [lacrosse], who came on here and puffed their chest? Not one person came on here and said anything for you to make that comment. Take Crush out of the equation (right now) and Sons competes and beats every other team out there.Why are we even entertaining your stupid rant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it is great that Soms went down there and did well. But why the need to come on here and puff your chest, dad? We are all supposed to be impressed and now consider them a top 2020 team? The team is billed as 2020 yet has kids who could have a 6/1 birthday which is significantly different than the 9/1 in your home state of PA not to mention 12/1 in NY. I understand they played against other teams within the same age bracket but think it is misleading to bill it as a 2020 team. My son (true 2020 with a November birthday) would be 17 months younger than players on this team which holds itself out as having kids from the same graduation year. Please. Again, glad the kids did well but as long as you call it a 2020 team and feel the need to take a public victory lap you can expect criticism.

"beats every other team out there". Not sure what games you've been watching. When have beat Looneys, Crabs, Legacy, Express, ........you have a good team but far from the Best in the Nation.

Look- Here's the deal- Sons won an average tournament with average teams- that is the way it should be viewed. The issue is when the Sons disciples start #nationalchamps. Far from the truth. Did they follow this tourney's age rules-yes. Other than that they should take it in stride and put the ego in check- and by the way that is where the problem exists.

The jealousy is incredible Such a bad look

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look- Here's the deal- Sons won an average tournament with average teams- that is the way it should be viewed. The issue is when the Sons disciples start #nationalchamps. Far from the truth. Did they follow this tourney's age rules-yes. Other than that they should take it in stride and put the ego in check- and by the way that is where the problem exists.

Your right we are no good. Fine with us. Be a Son!

Isn't this the same tournament Tenacious Turtles and Madlax National won the past few years? Wasn't such a joke of a tournament when they were winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about the [lacrosse]'s Tournament. It has always been a joke filled with terrible teams.

Yep same as when Tenacious Turtles and Madlax won it.

Turtles are an exceptional team. Almost all of the teams every year at [lacrosse]'s are terrible ones.

Is Sons had any guts they would have come to the Club National Championships, the only real tournament in December. Guess they (like everyone else on LI) were too scared to play Madlax, so they went for a paper trophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The jealousy is incredible Such a bad look

Annoyance is not the same as jealousy.

Sons is a 2019/2020 combo team that did well against teams of similar age at this tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about the [lacrosse]'s Tournament. It has always been a joke filled with terrible teams.

Yep same as when Tenacious Turtles and Madlax won it.

And Crush shutting out Terps. I agree weak tournament overall bit it 8s still not easy to win. Always a few,good teams, including tough Canadians.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The jealousy is incredible Such a bad look

Annoyance is not the same as jealousy.

Sons is a 2019/2020 combo team that did well against teams of similar age at this tournament.

Why do you care? Some families went to Florida, had some fun, their boys won a tournament. Let them enjoy it. How does it hurt you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Turtles are an exceptional team. Almost all of the teams every year at [lacrosse]'s are terrible ones.

Is Sons had any guts they would have come to the Club National Championships, the only real tournament in December. Guess they (like everyone else on LI) were too scared to play Madlax, so they went for a paper trophy.

you mean the Madlax play day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares about the [lacrosse]'s Tournament. It has always been a joke filled with terrible teams.

Yep same as when Tenacious Turtles and Madlax won it.

And Crush shutting out Terps. I agree weak tournament overall bit it 8s still not easy to win. Always a few,good teams, including tough Canadians.

Typical Crush daddy response.

Enough already with madlax 2020. They aren't even in the top 20 around. I hope you are talking about them as a joke because that is what they are. Seriously, not even in the conversation or their weak tourney that is a money maker for their program.

I do know the difference. And I can spell it correctly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

? You know the birthdays of the 2020 team are on their website? Lots of 2001 and a 2000.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

Newsflash: ALL the 2020 teams have holdbacks! Fact! Why pick on Sons when Crush, Crabs, Legacy, etc, are all well known for participating in the practice. Please stop, it's embarrassing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I do know the difference. And I can spell it correctly.

Yet you called an acronym a word. Must be a LI dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

Newsflash: ALL the 2020 teams have holdbacks! Fact! Why pick on Sons when Crush, Crabs, Legacy, etc, are all well known for participating in the practice. Please stop, it's embarrassing!

Sons only have one. I believe the kid went on a mission for one year and had to repeat. Other than that there aren't any. Late Summer birthdates are not holdbacks. 7/1 will be the new US Lacrosse Rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

? You know the birthdays of the 2020 team are on their website? Lots of 2001 and a 2000.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

TD is the man. One of the few doing it the right way. Look at the results. TouchDown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

OK JC

Winning is a by-product of great teaching and hard work!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all the ignorant posters...Sons 2020 has one reclassified player who stay home because he was too old for the "U" based tournamemt. Find something else to complain about. I'm sure you have plenty of other things.

? You know the birthdays of the 2020 team are on their website? Lots of 2001 and a 2000.

Summer 2001 birthday should be a 2019 player. Plenty on the roster. It is what it is. All the Sons care about is winning. They can put a feather fin their cap for their Dicks victory. TD knows that they are far from the best. He needs to add a few more hold backs to compete with the top 2020 teams.

OK JC

Td is a tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Td is a tool.

Hammer!

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

which Crab?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

which Crab?

One of the FCA 2020s that plays up on 2019.

Well if it's an fca, name helps the cause.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

which Crab?

One of the FCA 2020s that plays up on 2019.

Does he play attack? If so Everyone and their mother knows where he's going

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

which Crab?

OP said 2020s, not 2019s (or 2018s) posing as 2020s.

That's why that university will not win anything.

Bad parenting 101. Revolting these coaches are stalking little boys in middle school. Worse that parents and other guardians of a kid's welfare would tolerate it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's why that university will not win anything.

Which university? Between Hopkins, UVA and UNC and others swirling around to push the process earlier I get confused sometimes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bad parenting 101. Revolting these coaches are stalking little boys in middle school. Worse that parents and other guardians of a kid's welfare would tolerate it.

who said any thing about being a little boy, noone mentioned the players age. this player is probably a hold back and should be in the prime "years" of recruitment. To bad all this is crap confuses the issues and doesn't give on age kids credit always second guessing

MD

Are we calling 8th graders young men now?

Please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

Where did you hear this??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which 2020 teams are playing at the hub for MLK?

Rumor is, first 2020 will make a commitment very shortly...

Where did you hear this??

A 2020 girl committed to Syracuse

2020 Girls are committing according to their thread. I know of 2 boys that are close. Good for them, so young and able to make such a big decision..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Girls are committing according to their thread. I know of 2 boys that are close. Good for them, so young and able to make such a big decision..

Mom and Dad had no influence on their decision at all, they aren't the overbearing controlling type.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Girls are committing according to their thread. I know of 2 boys that are close. Good for them, so young and able to make such a big decision..

My 2020 son hears from admissions on two prep schools he applied for two months from now.

What you are celebrating is ridiculous. An 8th grader is a child. They are not equipped to pick out shoes for school without help.

Some programs are already hosting a "Recruiting Night" for the 2020 teams.

You are all late to the race, my son is is 2023 and he has a verbal to Harvard, full-ride. He plays LSA. Yep, you never heard of it, it is long stick attack and he is the BEST LSA in the country. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all late to the race, my son is is 2023 and he has a verbal to Harvard, full-ride. He plays LSA. Yep, you never heard of it, it is long stick attack and he is the BEST LSA in the country. LOL

My 2023 is turning 16 in March, so he can give your kid a ride to all the summer tournaments.

Unc-FCA

REAL SOON....a T91/Duke announcement??

Dino has always been defiant to state he never speaks or meets with 9th graders. If he's recruiting 8th graders I suppose that is being true to his word.

Just me asking, are the admissions officers at these selective schools in on this memo? Seems like only last year chat rooms like this were full of people incredulous that kids with no high school academic record were being offered at some selective schools. No wait...that was only last year.

How many 2020's do you think will participate in WSYL? The best players will probably be young 2020's who are good enough to play on AA teams. It is going to be interesting to see how many clubs form special tournament teams and which clubs are strongest when age is the only consideration.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many 2020's do you think will participate in WSYL? The best players will probably be young 2020's who are good enough to play on AA teams. It is going to be interesting to see how many clubs form special tournament teams and which clubs are strongest when age is the only consideration.

None scared igloo dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

REAL SOON....a T91/Duke announcement??

Please, they havnt even released their 2019's

Who's heading to Florida this weekend ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who's heading to Florida this weekend ?

What's going on in Florida?

The WYSL teams have to be ongoing teams - no special/all-star teams and there is also a proximity rule.

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Minimum requirements are that players must compete with their team/program for at least two other tournaments or in a seasonal league.

All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program. Players will be required to submit a report card, school identification card, or comparable proof of residency.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The WYSL teams have to be ongoing teams - no special/all-star teams and there is also a proximity rule.

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Minimum requirements are that players must compete with their team/program for at least two other tournaments or in a seasonal league.

All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program. Players will be required to submit a report card, school identification card, or comparable proof of residency.

It is not hard to do a couple of warm up tournaments. I think there will be a some clubs who combine their younger 2020's with their better 2021's for the WSYL.

From looking at the Crabs kids at NLF Crabs 2020 is going to be off the charts good. May be one of the best Crabs teams in HS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From looking at the Crabs kids at NLF Crabs 2020 is going to be off the charts good. May be one of the best Crabs teams in HS

No secret there - they have a large number of holdbacks. Many of those kids could not make it in their own age group so of course they look great against 12-18 months younger. They may be one of the best Crabs team but they lost all respect along the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From looking at the Crabs kids at NLF Crabs 2020 is going to be off the charts good. May be one of the best Crabs teams in HS

You'll get that when most of the kids are 18 months older than their competition.

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From looking at the Crabs kids at NLF Crabs 2020 is going to be off the charts good. May be one of the best Crabs teams in HS

You'll get that when most of the kids are 18 months older than their competition.

. Agree. The only chart Crabs 2020 will be off of is the number of holdbacks that team has, they even have two double holdbacks. While they may win a lot of games, the players, program and coach Ryan M have absolutely no respect in the lacrosse world. This team at the very least should be playing 2019 and not 2020, but this is how Ryan M games the system to his advantage. He even thinks he is a great coach, which he isn't he is just a big cheat in the youth lacrosse world.

Taking your comments into consideration, let me ask this: if he is so loathed why is it he has a vice grip on youth leagues, his tournaments attract top teams and he started this NLF thing with such high early demand? I'm no Ryan or Crabs fan, but what effect do the complaints have when other clubs and lacrosse parents preen to get into his events the very breath before complaining about these ills of grade based teams and gaming the system? And consider the fruits in this system. Your sons have a better chance of getting a $35K merit scholarship if a good enough student to get into Hopkins than the chance they will get a $15K lacrosse scholarship no matter what. Complaining alone isn't too moving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

More than that you liar! 4-5 holdbacks plus the kids that did pre-first. Almost the entire starting players should be 2019.

I haven't seen a Crabs long stick at NLF shorter than his coach. Probably the helmet . . .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

4-5 holdbacks already in 8th grade, how many by next year? Drama queens? Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

This is a lie, but who cares. It is what it is and everyone complaining about it needs to just get over it. Work harder to compete. If you are good enough, you will get noticed. If you are not, then you should be playing on a B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

This is a lie, but who cares. It is what it is and everyone complaining about it needs to just get over it. Work harder to compete. If you are good enough, you will get noticed. If you are not, then you should be playing on a B team.

I have to agree- my on age kid can compete so he does- but isn't that the pot calling the kettle black- how about if you can't compete and stand out- don't hold your kid back to play down- just play B and then your kid can stand out.

It is what it is- and many on age kids will compete and come out as good if not better than the holdbacks. I still stand by my belief that if truly talented, one would never allow their kid to play down as there is no need for it. Talent rises to the top and is noticed anywhere- not just when playing with younger kids. See you on the sidelines.

it was once an honor to play up, to strut your stuff and yes maybe brag about how you or your kid played up. now they do this when they play down. I don't get it. does this make me old school. is this really the new wave of the future.

A kid plays up now and I see how they say it is a weak school or weak league. Really come on.

I knew the Dc kids growing up (70's DOB) were held back because they were mommas boys and could not handle the separation to head to kindergarten... so they were held back since they could afford $$$ to do it. it was cheating back then, money gave little johnny an extra year to grow up. then people outside of the muffy and buffy AREAS of Chevy Chase and the more affluent ne areas caught on and learned how (in the 80's) anyone who could afford to do it could hold back their kid. it wasn't for sports at first but academics and the BS of social wellbeing/adjustment. All just trying to game the system because they could.

NOW THE GAMING CONTINUES

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

The new Crabs 2020 roster has 3 or 4 players who were on last year's 2019 roster. Add that to the older kids already on the team and how many 15 year olds will be playing on that team in the spring/summer? Their best player lists himself at 6'1" 178 lbs. on his hudl page. If he's not 15 yet he will be very soon. Complete BS.

Daddy must be proud that is son is "dominating" kids a year and a half/two years younger...Guess what , he should be dominating kids younger than him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

The new Crabs 2020 roster has 3 or 4 players who were on last year's 2019 roster. Add that to the older kids already on the team and how many 15 year olds will be playing on that team in the spring/summer? Their best player lists himself at 6'1" 178 lbs. on his hudl page. If he's not 15 yet he will be very soon. Complete BS.

15? How about 16 this Summer. Parents confirmed at NLF that kids will be turning 16 in Spring

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

All above true. We had 2020's show up at our tryout because they got bumped....and they are good.

There are kids turning 16 in spring of 8th grade? That is socially effed up. If that is true those same kids will be 20 in spring of HS senior year. I was playing my second year of college when I was 20. Sometimes I see a point when we are talking about fall babies, kids being maybe 4-5 months older, but this example is horrible. I also guess that an 8th grader that age who is playing on a 2020 team would hold up on a 2018 team. Which inverts any logic to recruit those kids since their comparibles should be 2018s. If you can't distinguish well against your own age and can't hang on as a 16 year old versus 18 year old seniors, there should be a universal agreement that you're not standing out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

The new Crabs 2020 roster has 3 or 4 players who were on last year's 2019 roster. Add that to the older kids already on the team and how many 15 year olds will be playing on that team in the spring/summer? Their best player lists himself at 6'1" 178 lbs. on his hudl page. If he's not 15 yet he will be very soon. Complete BS.

It is a viscious cycle. 7 or 8 kids on the 2018 team repeated 8th grade and are now on 2019. That pushed 2019s to 2020. The sad thing is that the joke is on the parents. If you spent $25k on the extra year and your son is not committed yet, now there is a whole new grade of players getting the college coach's attention. Truth is, most of those kids are not good enough to play with their own age group and are in for a rude awakening this spring at high school tryouts.

My son is a 2018 that played with those kids. Most of those kids are more than good enough to play with kids their own age, but their parents hold them back so that they can dominate the lower age group and really stand out. Three of the kids have committed to UNC, MD and VA as 2019's so obviously they are very good players. Don't agree with it, but if good enough to be a pretty good on age player for an elite club, you can be a stud as a pre-first / holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They have 4-5 holdbacks, you drama queens.

Do Crab player/parents assume that other parents and their kids who go to school with these kids, have played with them/against them, etc. not know what is going on?

I point at the screen and my son literally laughs out loud! They DO NOT have "4-5" holdbacks. Count again. Crabs is what it is. Why do you keep trying to make excuses or deny it? Just own it and move on. Sadly the rules allow it, fine. But don't come with B.S.

If I was going to feel bad, its for the on age kids who play for Crabs and then get booted or sat for the 2019 kid who comes down for a run at 2020. You know who they are. So do we.

The new Crabs 2020 roster has 3 or 4 players who were on last year's 2019 roster. Add that to the older kids already on the team and how many 15 year olds will be playing on that team in the spring/summer? Their best player lists himself at 6'1" 178 lbs. on his hudl page. If he's not 15 yet he will be very soon. Complete BS.

15? How about 16 this Summer. Parents confirmed at NLF that kids will be turning 16 in Spring

Absolutely True.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is a 2018 that played with those kids. Most of those kids are more than good enough to play with kids their own age, but their parents hold them back so that they can dominate the lower age group and really stand out. Three of the kids have committed to UNC, MD and VA as 2019's so obviously they are very good players. Don't agree with it, but if good enough to be a pretty good on age player for an elite club, you can be a stud as a pre-first / holdback!

Reflects on the kids and the parents...pathetic. Bragging rights at the water cooler and amongst the parents on the field. But what they forget is that everyone talking to them is actually thinking...how sad they have to move down and take advantage of others in order to look better.

Funny that he will be a 21 year old "True Freshman" during the spring season of his first year of college...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny that he will be a 21 year old "True Freshman" during the spring season of his first year of college...

He will be the most popular freshman, buying beer for every other freshman! He could make money off this as well help pay for tuition.

Each team should put out the birthdays of the kids. Rising Sons does this on their website. I don't think that it should be matched up to the individual player like they do, just put it on your website without matching names. Then we'd know who we are playing. Enough of this nonsense.

and that would make your kids play differently?. Or give insane parents on sidelines more crap to yell and scream about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and that would make your kids play differently?. Or give insane parents on sidelines more crap to yell and scream about?

I saw Rising Sons play last year and no one was yelling about their ages. What's the matter, afraid to show how old the 8th grader are? Crab Daddy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I saw Rising Sons play last year and no one was yelling about their ages. What's the matter, afraid to show how old the 8th grader are? Crab Daddy?

No one might have been yelling but their roster shows six boys (out of 24) that were born before 9/1/01.

At least they own up to it.

Crabs will beat rising sons 10 out of 10 times...Great club vs mediocre club created because little Johnny couldn't make 91 or Express...There's always baseball!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and that would make your kids play differently?. Or give insane parents on sidelines more crap to yell and scream about?

I saw Rising Sons play last year and no one was yelling about their ages. What's the matter, afraid to show how old the 8th grader are? Crab Daddy?

Rising Sons has nothing to hide I guess. They do have one or two kids that look like they were reclassed and also a couple late Summer birthdays. It still looks like they average 1/2002 birth dates.

Rising Sons = mediocre team created by Dads whose sons couldn't make 91 or Express

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It still looks like they average 1/2002 birth dates.

Hold on a minute. AVERAGE birthday? Seriously? That is like saying "On average politicians don't lie".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons = mediocre team created by Dads whose sons couldn't make 91 or Express

I didn't see anyone make any claim about how good they are. Also, how do they have anything to do with LI lacrosse since they are in Philadelphia?

Since HOCO is sponsored by a municipal government - the ages of the players on each participating team will be publicly available.

I guess couldn't make NXT, HHH or Dukes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising Sons = mediocre team created by Dads whose sons couldn't make 91 or Express

check your geography, Rising Sons are out of SE PA, don't think to many of their families are looking to travel north to LI for lax practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

and that would make your kids play differently?. Or give insane parents on sidelines more crap to yell and scream about?

I saw Rising Sons play last year and no one was yelling about their ages. What's the matter, afraid to show how old the 8th grader are? Crab Daddy?

Rising Sons has nothing to hide I guess. They do have one or two kids that look like they were reclassed and also a couple late Summer birthdays. It still looks like they average 1/2002 birth dates.

That average would be about 6 months older than most average birthdates for LI teams. 2020 birthdates start at 12/1 for the oldest kids. Any holdbacks are usually late Fall birthdates, which would still be 2020 in all other states.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Since HOCO is sponsored by a municipal government - the ages of the players on each participating team will be publicly available.

You are mistaken. Not all information related to municipal govt business is public access. These birth dates would not fall under public access rules. It would be considered personal information of a minor.

Anything run/supervised/organized by a government is accessible by a Freedom of Information request.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anything run/supervised/organized by a government is accessible by a Freedom of Information request.

You would never be successful in obtaining personal information of this type about another person (especially a minor) unless that person is an employee of the government or you prove they are deceased. You also have to meet a test of warranted when it comes to personal information and your curiosity is not considered warranted. Stop creating even more drama.

"Federal agencies are required to disclose any information requested under the FOIA unless it falls under one of nine exemptions which protect interests such as personal privacy, national security, and law enforcement."

I would imagine the only time you might be successful in obtaining this information is if there was a substantial injury as a result of an unsafe condition created - i.e. Crabs playing kids significantly older and bigger than the norm in the age group. You would need to prove that the County knew that there was unsafe conditions and did not perform their due diligence - you would probably not even need the DOBs to prove this as the county employees involved with the program are fully aware of the hold backs and the potential for injury and are choosing to turn their backs on the practice and also ignore what is considered the governing guidance on the practice from USLAX regardless of how ineffectual the organization is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess couldn't make NXT, HHH or Dukes

Thats funny. Our kids don't tryout for anyone else. They got what they need. This is the best program in any sport that we've belonged too. Not because of their success on competing and beating top programs but because of the level of coaching, the character of the kids and their philosophy of just getting better. We travel past all 3 of those programs to get to Sons.

Looking for a very skilled FOGO for WSYL born on or after 5/1/02 this team will be very very competitive with a skilled FOGO. Must live with in 100 of Hempstead NY (thats as the crow flies) for more info you can contact me at teamlightsout2016@gmail.com The only cost will be your travel

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would imagine the only time you might be successful in obtaining this information is if there was a substantial injury as a result of an unsafe condition created - i.e. Crabs playing kids significantly older and bigger than the norm in the age group. You would need to prove that the County knew that there was unsafe conditions and did not perform their due diligence - you would probably not even need the DOBs to prove this as the county employees involved with the program are fully aware of the hold backs and the potential for injury and are choosing to turn their backs on the practice and also ignore what is considered the governing guidance on the practice from USLAX regardless of how ineffectual the organization is.

Every middle school football field has 12 year olds playing with 14 year olds. The made up safety issue is a something that people use to have the high ground rather than just complaining their son's team lost or their son didn't make the team.
That doesn't mean that hold backs shouldn't play with the other kids their age or that the Crabs don't manipulate the system. It just means that neither insurance companies nor lawyers are going to solve the problem.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would imagine the only time you might be successful in obtaining this information is if there was a substantial injury as a result of an unsafe condition created - i.e. Crabs playing kids significantly older and bigger than the norm in the age group. You would need to prove that the County knew that there was unsafe conditions and did not perform their due diligence - you would probably not even need the DOBs to prove this as the county employees involved with the program are fully aware of the hold backs and the potential for injury and are choosing to turn their backs on the practice and also ignore what is considered the governing guidance on the practice from USLAX regardless of how ineffectual the organization is.

Every middle school football field has 12 year olds playing with 14 year olds. The made up safety issue is a something that people use to have the high ground rather than just complaining their son's team lost or their son didn't make the team.
That doesn't mean that hold backs shouldn't play with the other kids their age or that the Crabs don't manipulate the system. It just means that neither insurance companies nor lawyers are going to solve the problem.

Its not really that simple. The younger, smaller kids usually play each other on the b line. The bigger, older, more skilled players, play a line. Same goes for other MS sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That doesn't mean that hold backs shouldn't play with the other kids their age or that the Crabs don't manipulate the system. It just means that neither insurance companies nor lawyers are going to solve the problem.

True, until some kid is tragically paralyzed. Without injury there is no cause for action.

Some poor kid is going to be sacrificial lamb for change in this sport. Makes me sick to think about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking for a very skilled FOGO for WSYL born on or after 5/1/02 this team will be very very competitive with a skilled FOGO. Must live with in 100 of Hempstead NY (thats as the crow flies) for more info you can contact me at teamlightsout2016@gmail.com The only cost will be your travel

Thank you i will pass this along to some kids in our club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would imagine the only time you might be successful in obtaining this information is if there was a substantial injury as a result of an unsafe condition created - i.e. Crabs playing kids significantly older and bigger than the norm in the age group. You would need to prove that the County knew that there was unsafe conditions and did not perform their due diligence - you would probably not even need the DOBs to prove this as the county employees involved with the program are fully aware of the hold backs and the potential for injury and are choosing to turn their backs on the practice and also ignore what is considered the governing guidance on the practice from USLAX regardless of how ineffectual the organization is.

Every middle school football field has 12 year olds playing with 14 year olds. The made up safety issue is a something that people use to have the high ground rather than just complaining their son's team lost or their son didn't make the team.
That doesn't mean that hold backs shouldn't play with the other kids their age or that the Crabs don't manipulate the system. It just means that neither insurance companies nor lawyers are going to solve the problem.

Youth and middle school football has weight limits which restrict the size delta risks (which are more when it is junior high with 14 year olds versus 12 year olds). Our son wanted to play MS football and could not as a 7th or 8th grader. He is on-age but was too big & heavy. The point you are attempting is way off. If an undersized 13 year old were seriously injured in contact with a much bigger repeat graded 15 year old, I have no doubt that would be a valid and credible legal claim. The tournament liability waivers parents sign won't be worth anything as a defense. Sadly, I do think it eventually happens.

Not all schools do that. I live in a big Nassau district and MS kids cannot play HS football or lax no matter what their size or weight is .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would imagine the only time you might be successful in obtaining this information is if there was a substantial injury as a result of an unsafe condition created - i.e. Crabs playing kids significantly older and bigger than the norm in the age group. You would need to prove that the County knew that there was unsafe conditions and did not perform their due diligence - you would probably not even need the DOBs to prove this as the county employees involved with the program are fully aware of the hold backs and the potential for injury and are choosing to turn their backs on the practice and also ignore what is considered the governing guidance on the practice from USLAX regardless of how ineffectual the organization is.

Every middle school football field has 12 year olds playing with 14 year olds. The made up safety issue is a something that people use to have the high ground rather than just complaining their son's team lost or their son didn't make the team.
That doesn't mean that hold backs shouldn't play with the other kids their age or that the Crabs don't manipulate the system. It just means that neither insurance companies nor lawyers are going to solve the problem.

Youth and middle school football has weight limits which restrict the size delta risks (which are more when it is junior high with 14 year olds versus 12 year olds). Our son wanted to play MS football and could not as a 7th or 8th grader. He is on-age but was too big & heavy. The point you are attempting is way off. If an undersized 13 year old were seriously injured in contact with a much bigger repeat graded 15 year old, I have no doubt that would be a valid and credible legal claim. The tournament liability waivers parents sign won't be worth anything as a defense. Sadly, I do think it eventually happens.

Maybe there are weight limits where you live but not everywhere. Middle schools where I live regularly have kids over 200 lbs. Some of them have been held back a year (not for athletics). So they can be up to 15 years old. Other kids will be around 100 lbs. My point isn't to justify hold backs but just to point out that greater size and age discrepancies exist in rougher sports without any legal issues.

Go watch concussion.....and you won't need to worry as your kid will be on the tennis.....pretty scary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go watch concussion.....and you won't need to worry as your kid will be on the tennis.....pretty scary.

A Little dramatic don't you think.......mom

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Thanks Crabs dad whose kid had to play against younger kids to get noticed.

Well they already lost once

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will beat rising sons 10 out of 10 times...Great club vs mediocre club created because little Johnny couldn't make 91 or Express...There's always baseball!

Sons will beat Crabs this Summer bank on it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will beat rising sons 10 out of 10 times...Great club vs mediocre club created because little Johnny couldn't make 91 or Express...There's always baseball!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Thanks Crabs dad whose kid had to play against younger kids to get noticed.

But the reality of it is my kids will get committed to a top lacrosse school and yours won't. Beat you on the field and beat you in life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Thanks Crabs dad whose kid had to play against younger kids to get noticed.

But the reality of it is my kids will get committed to a top lacrosse school and yours won't. Beat you on the field and beat you in life!

Keep dreaming Crab daddy. You are teaching your son the best way to succeed in life is to cheat, just like your holdback son is doing now. If, by chance, he gets accepted to a top lacrosse school, there is always the chance he won't be able to handle the pressure of playing against players now older or the same age as he is. Because playing for Crabs he was always playing younger kids so he could look like a stud. So when he falls flat on his face, he can thank you for letting him belong to the corrupt Crabs organization. You know, the club that has many, many holdbacks, almost twice the amount of any other competitive club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Thanks Crabs dad whose kid had to play against younger kids to get noticed.

But the reality of it is my kids will get committed to a top lacrosse school and yours won't. Beat you on the field and beat you in life!

If you teach your son to be a [lacrosse] like you, he won't be winning in life no matter what school he plays for.

That guy isn't a Crabs dad. His son plays on Madlax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go watch concussion.....and you won't need to worry as your kid will be on the tennis.....pretty scary.

A Little dramatic don't you think.......mom

A little sexist, don't you think?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The main difference btwen the MS example and hold acme is that you knowingly put your son on the field knowing there are older boys playing. With holdbacks, in my view you do not assume that the boys are older. You assume that since they are all in same grade, they are all approximately the same age.

If your son is playing in the 2020 AA division of a tournament you have to be pretty naive and/or uninformed if you don't know that there will be some older kids. There are plenty of age based tournaments. Play those if you are worried about halfbacks.

Thanks Crabs dad whose kid had to play against younger kids to get noticed.

But the reality of it is my kids will get committed to a top lacrosse school and yours won't. Beat you on the field and beat you in life!

Keep dreaming Crab daddy. You are teaching your son the best way to succeed in life is to cheat, just like your holdback son is doing now. If, by chance, he gets accepted to a top lacrosse school, there is always the chance he won't be able to handle the pressure of playing against players now older or the same age as he is. Because playing for Crabs he was always playing younger kids so he could look like a stud. So when he falls flat on his face, he can thank you for letting him belong to the corrupt Crabs organization. You know, the club that has many, many holdbacks, almost twice the amount of any other competitive club.

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

A Crabs 2019 player just "committed" to the Air Force Academy. I'd consider letting my son repeat 8th grade if it was something he wanted to do and it would help him get into one of the academies. Somehow i don't think he would turn out with weaker character from the experience.

The reality is "losers" are people who spend their time complaining about what others are doing rather than focusing on making themselves better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

A Crabs 2019 player just "committed" to the Air Force Academy. I'd consider letting my son repeat 8th grade if it was something he wanted to do and it would help him get into one of the academies. Somehow i don't think he would turn out with weaker character from the experience.

The reality is "losers" are people who spend their time complaining about what others are doing rather than focusing on making themselves better.

How old is he 17?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

A Crabs 2019 player just "committed" to the Air Force Academy. I'd consider letting my son repeat 8th grade if it was something he wanted to do and it would help him get into one of the academies. Somehow i don't think he would turn out with weaker character from the experience.

The reality is "losers" are people who spend their time complaining about what others are doing rather than focusing on making themselves better.

How old is he 17?

Kind of makes a mockery of the principles of the academies- a kid who manipulates the rules to beat up on younger kids as part of our armed forces....integrity, character, honor - you know the whole bit disregarded by these kids and their parents.

There are pros and cons for holding back. Just do your research before you do it. An informed decision is the best decision. Studies show the younger kids in a grade will have a higher IQ as an adult. The kids held back for the wrong reasons studies show will have a Lower IQ. I don't believe that IQ is a good measure of intelligence but it does make one wonder. There are too many studies that show many negatives for holding back for the wrong reasons like for sports. There are also psychological studies on the impact of a holdback who dominates in high school but can't dominate as a adult. Don't rely on a lacrosse coach to help make your decision. Talk to doctors, school officials and even a psychiatrist before you make such a life changing decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

A Crabs 2019 player just "committed" to the Air Force Academy. I'd consider letting my son repeat 8th grade if it was something he wanted to do and it would help him get into one of the academies. Somehow i don't think he would turn out with weaker character from the experience.

The reality is "losers" are people who spend their time complaining about what others are doing rather than focusing on making themselves better.

How old is he 17?

Kind of makes a mockery of the principles of the academies- a kid who manipulates the rules to beat up on younger kids as part of our armed forces....integrity, character, honor - you know the whole bit disregarded by these kids and their parents.

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

How about not listening to some f'in idiot on a message board that has no idea what he is talking about on the subject of holdbacks and the psychological impact on the kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about not listening to some f'in idiot on a message board that has no idea what he is talking about on the subject of holdbacks and the psychological impact on the kids.

Would that psychological impact be "a false sense of security"? And the non ability to compete against kids of the same age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Very sad that this guy's focus in life is lacrosse and allowing his son to be manipulated just to get into a top LACROSSE school. Poor kid when he realizes he is just like everyone else and his skills are average if that when playing with kids his own age. Surprised any kid would agree to repeating a grade just to look like a lacrosse stud - he and everyone else knows it is only because of his age.

I completely agree with this post.

It truly amazes me that any parent or parents would hold a kid back for a sport, any sport. Sure I get some kids not being mature enough to start kindergarten or a kid who is struggling with the work in a particular grade repeating a grade or starting later. But to repeat a grade for something other than an academic reason is so completely unthinkable, foreign and totally bizarre to me I just can't understand it. Seriously, for a sport?

Your kid should be playing UP against older kids - where they learn to take a beating and fight through it. They should be bored by playing on grade level unless they find some really exceptional competition. That will help them win at the game called LIFE.

If you hold back your kid for a sport, lacrosse or otherwise, you're a loser. You're raising your kids to be a losers. One that will break in the face of real competition. It really doesn't matter that you're "cheating" or not because they will be beaten by someone hardened in the fires of real competition. It is a given, it will happen because you've made them weak on the inside. Makes me sad for your kids. Truly. But hey, someone has to run the cash registers at Walmart, put the shopping carts back at the supermarket and scrape the gum off the sidewalks.

A Crabs 2019 player just "committed" to the Air Force Academy. I'd consider letting my son repeat 8th grade if it was something he wanted to do and it would help him get into one of the academies. Somehow i don't think he would turn out with weaker character from the experience.

The reality is "losers" are people who spend their time complaining about what others are doing rather than focusing on making themselves better.

How old is he 17?

Kind of makes a mockery of the principles of the academies- a kid who manipulates the rules to beat up on younger kids as part of our armed forces....integrity, character, honor - you know the whole bit disregarded by these kids and their parents.

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not! [/quote]

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?[/quote]

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

Are you guys just assuming this kid is older because he is on crabs?

[quote=Anonymous]Are you guys just assuming this kid is older because he is on crabs? [/quote

He is!

Poster is admitting to a lack of morals and integrity by suggesting our president lacks it? Very very sad! How about stop cheating to gain an unethical advantage. Then maybe you would be worthy to serve our country!

found a nice way to save money, I would like to share. don't pay for speed and agility training, get your kids outside to shovel snow. when the snow is gone, get them outside to play. Save myself the money for someone to make my kid exercise. Professor Mac here with more tips to come.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?[/quote]

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic. [/quote]

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic. [/quote]

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now? [/quote]

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now? [/quote]

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity. [/quote]

The answer is zero deployments. BTW the Med cruise in 84 doesn't count.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now? [/quote]

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity. [/quote]

And so it goes, social engineering comes full circle. Surely affirmative action played no role in her appointment to West Point as a student. Like BO's entrance to Harvard. Surely, affirmative action played no role in her advancement in the military and played no role in her appointment to run West Point. Last I checked, the Constitution protects my right to criticize anything and everything. Further, my father spent 4 years in Europe during WWII, he survived crossing the Atlantic, D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge. The country he fought for, and the rights you enjoy, by his own words, exists today in name only. Surely, the likes of BG saw plenty of live action. Further, the Marine Commander is on record as saying, "women in live battle situations are a detriment to the lives of the others around them". Further, they would be subject to unspeakable acts of savagery should they be captured. The PC culture has no place in our military, for that matter in our country. The current Commander in Chief is derelict in his duty, the people he surrounds himself with are of the same ilk. Your friend BG has no place running West Point. Now, as stated above, it comes as no surprise that the recruiting tactics used by the Coaches of our service academies lack in honor and integrity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now?

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity. [/quote]

And so it goes, social engineering comes full circle. Surely affirmative action played no role in her appointment to West Point as a student. Like BO's entrance to Harvard. Surely, affirmative action played no role in her advancement in the military and played no role in her appointment to run West Point. Last I checked, the Constitution protects my right to criticize anything and everything. Further, my father spent 4 years in Europe during WWII, he survived crossing the Atlantic, D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge. The country he fought for, and the rights you enjoy, by his own words, exists today in name only. Surely, the likes of BG saw plenty of live action. Further, the Marine Commander is on record as saying, "women in live battle situations are a detriment to the lives of the others around them". Further, they would be subject to unspeakable acts of savagery should they be captured. The PC culture has no place in our military, for that matter in our country. The current Commander in Chief is derelict in his duty, the people he surrounds himself with are of the same ilk. Your friend BG has no place running West Point. Now, as stated above, it comes as no surprise that the recruiting tactics used by the Coaches of our service academies lack in honor and integrity. [/quote]

God bless your father's service. I say again.....what have you done???? Criticizing others is easy......Ranting on an internet board is easy.......Talking smack about what you know nothing about is easy......Show your wife and your daughter your post and see what they think. Over.......

Yeah I see West Point committed a 2019. I can't believe it. Very surprised at this. Didn't think they would stoop this low with early recruiting.

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic. [/quote]

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now? [/quote]

You may not like him, but what do honor and integrity have to do with it? No scandals in thei administration.

Starting a war to protect us from WMDs that did not exist? Republicans, there's integrity for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now?

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity. [/quote]

And so it goes, social engineering comes full circle. Surely affirmative action played no role in her appointment to West Point as a student. Like BO's entrance to Harvard. Surely, affirmative action played no role in her advancement in the military and played no role in her appointment to run West Point. Last I checked, the Constitution protects my right to criticize anything and everything. Further, my father spent 4 years in Europe during WWII, he survived crossing the Atlantic, D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge. The country he fought for, and the rights you enjoy, by his own words, exists today in name only. Surely, the likes of BG saw plenty of live action. Further, the Marine Commander is on record as saying, "women in live battle situations are a detriment to the lives of the others around them". Further, they would be subject to unspeakable acts of savagery should they be captured. The PC culture has no place in our military, for that matter in our country. The current Commander in Chief is derelict in his duty, the people he surrounds himself with are of the same ilk. Your friend BG has no place running West Point. Now, as stated above, it comes as no surprise that the recruiting tactics used by the Coaches of our service academies lack in honor and integrity. [/quote]

Wow you are a piece of work standing on a pedestal slinging insults at the military when you have never seen any action yourself. You also sound slightly angry about a woman in her role- loser on both counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic.

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now?

BG Holland is a 1990 graduate of USMA. She is a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan. I would say that she is more than qualified to be the Commandant of West Point. Where have you deployed? It should be more than two times for your criticism to have any validity. [/quote]

And so it goes, social engineering comes full circle. Surely affirmative action played no role in her appointment to West Point as a student. Like BO's entrance to Harvard. Surely, affirmative action played no role in her advancement in the military and played no role in her appointment to run West Point. Last I checked, the Constitution protects my right to criticize anything and everything. Further, my father spent 4 years in Europe during WWII, he survived crossing the Atlantic, D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge. The country he fought for, and the rights you enjoy, by his own words, exists today in name only. Surely, the likes of BG saw plenty of live action. Further, the Marine Commander is on record as saying, "women in live battle situations are a detriment to the lives of the others around them". Further, they would be subject to unspeakable acts of savagery should they be captured. The PC culture has no place in our military, for that matter in our country. The current Commander in Chief is derelict in his duty, the people he surrounds himself with are of the same ilk. Your friend BG has no place running West Point. Now, as stated above, it comes as no surprise that the recruiting tactics used by the Coaches of our service academies lack in honor and integrity. [/quote]

Your father has a right to speak. You, coward, have none. As the daughter of an Army Sgt. Major and the mother of a son that is active and currently deployed on a Navy submarine, I am disgusted by your asinine statements. Each and every one of them are ridiculous and due to the fact that you have no freaking clue what you are talking about, please shut your lame mouth. You are a disgrace to your fathers service. Women will now serve proudly in the Silent Service as well, FYI. I bet you don't even know what that means.

Sir,

You are the prime example of "WHITE MALE PRIVILEDGE". God I hope you are not a parent of a child on my son's team...

Best of luck to your son. I feel sorry for your wife.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great point, thought our academies were all about integrity and honor. Guess not!

Are you serious? You are aware who the Commander in Chief is right? Do we really need to go any further?

You must be proud of your son and yourself-you exemplify so much with what is wrong with this sport and our nation. Pathetic. [/quote]

We're on the same page knuckle head. Honor and Integrity should come from the top, clearly it doesn't at the moment. Why would you expect it from Academies he oversee. They have become places for social engineering experiments. Have you seen who runs West Point? Get it now? [/quote]

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

[quote=Anonymous]Sir,

You are the prime example of "WHITE MALE PRIVILEDGE". God I hope you are not a parent of a child on my son's team...

Best of luck to your son. I feel sorry for your wife.

[quote=Anonymous]

Women shouldn't be in the military nor should they be in law enforcement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

Is this info posted anywhere?

You people are so stupid even classifying lax with a decision to go to an acedemy. Forget about lax...or age or anything else. This kid is going to work and protect our country.

Not one person on any of these post, in any year as they are anonymous (including me) have the balls even to sign up for this....think before you write about life and death...vs lax.

True idiots...get a life ...or sign up for what he did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Sir,

You are the prime example of "WHITE MALE PRIVILEDGE". God I hope you are not a parent of a child on my son's team...

Best of luck to your son. I feel sorry for your wife.

[quote=Anonymous]

Women shouldn't be in the military nor should they be in law enforcement.

They should abort idiots such as yourself that is certain. I mean without them where would pigs like YOU be, hmmmmm? I bet you beat yours regularly, right Prince Charrming?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are so stupid even classifying lax with a decision to go to an acedemy. Forget about lax...or age or anything else. This kid is going to work and protect our country.

Not one person on any of these post, in any year as they are anonymous (including me) have the balls even to sign up for this....think before you write about life and death...vs lax.

True idiots...get a life ...or sign up for what he did.

anyone here about that new kid from express (leghart) that joined true blue white after being cut.... heard he was one of the best on legharts team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

Only one game was watched,the championship , some other kids, not just crush players preformed better than those mentioned. We are talking about a ty Xander write up, so don't get to excited!

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

Only one game was watched,the championship , some other kids, not just crush players preformed better than those mentioned. We are talking about a ty Xander write up, so don't get to excited!

And the two Crabs mentioned are both private school holdbacks coupled with a pre first year - no surprise there. Congratulations to their parents who are now King of the Water Cooler conversations at work. Most 6'1" 180 pound "8th graders" would stand out. Sorry for their true 2020 team mates who got passed over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

XA is a mid

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Sir,

You are the prime example of "WHITE MALE PRIVILEDGE". God I hope you are not a parent of a child on my son's team...

Best of luck to your son. I feel sorry for your wife.

[quote=Anonymous]

Women shouldn't be in the military nor should they be in law enforcement.

They should abort idiots such as yourself that is certain. I mean without them where would pigs like YOU be, hmmmmm? I bet you beat yours regularly, right Prince Charrming?

Former Sergeant in the Marines here and I'm happy we've on boarded women in all capacities. It was silly that we hadn't done it already. However, the standards, all of them, must be consistent for both sexes. If you lower the standards for women it will prevent them from getting the respect they deserve and hinder our combat effectiveness, neither being acceptable. And if the women are smart, they'll hold themselves to an even higher standard. Lead from the front!

Oh yeah, since we're on a lax forum, girls can play boys lax too :p

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

You obviously have don't know anything about Crush or who the purported Big 3 are Oneil the lefty attack kid was in my opinion the best 2020 there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Sir,

You are the prime example of "WHITE MALE PRIVILEDGE". God I hope you are not a parent of a child on my son's team...

Best of luck to your son. I feel sorry for your wife.

[quote=Anonymous]

Women shouldn't be in the military nor should they be in law enforcement.

They should abort idiots such as yourself that is certain. I mean without them where would pigs like YOU be, hmmmmm? I bet you beat yours regularly, right Prince Charrming?

Former Sergeant in the Marines here and I'm happy we've on boarded women in all capacities. It was silly that we hadn't done it already. However, the standards, all of them, must be consistent for both sexes. If you lower the standards for women it will prevent them from getting the respect they deserve and hinder our combat effectiveness, neither being acceptable. And if the women are smart, they'll hold themselves to an even higher standard. Lead from the front!

Oh yeah, since we're on a lax forum, girls can play boys lax too :p

Very good points!!

Thank you for your service!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

XA is a mid

Who plays one handed

NLF Futures was my first exposure to showcase games. Thought very well organized, but comment above regarding middies was spot on.

If FoGo's stay on and LSM's go on early offense (which I like, but not in showcases) and many early shots taken, just the function of math means there are very few minutes to be shared by normal middies.

My one critical comment for the event was that the coaches needed to manage middie PT better. I have no problem with a stud being played more at the end of the game, but that wasn't the problem - non-management was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

XA is a mid

Who plays one handed

Do you mean he favors his strong hand? Kinda like the way the Canadians do? And they seem to be more effective, which is why most good coaches are not spending much time on off-hand anymore. This is probably a topic for another thread, but you can't knock a kid if he plays that way anymore. It's part of the evolutionary process of American lacrosse.

X plays attack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF Futures was my first exposure to showcase games. Thought very well organized, but comment above regarding middies was spot on.

If FoGo's stay on and LSM's go on early offense (which I like, but not in showcases) and many early shots taken, just the function of math means there are very few minutes to be shared by normal middies.

My one critical comment for the event was that the coaches needed to manage middie PT better. I have no problem with a stud being played more at the end of the game, but that wasn't the problem - non-management was.

Agree, teams not well selected at all. There were too many of certain positions on some teams and none on others. Also on day two my son said the assistant coaches were nowhere to be found. They wrote evaluations that made no sense!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

X plays attack

Seriously????? Where does goalie play?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

X plays attack

Seriously????? Where does goalie play?

LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

X plays attack

Seriously????? Where does goalie play?

Thats the kids name....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

But NAPS and MAPS boys are going the prep route as a decision because the School/Coach said they aren't ready. These kids aren't 2019s playing 2020.

And they still are not guaranteed admission at the Academies.

Totally not the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

Can we put this into context for a second.....We are talking about a young man that is making a choice to enlist in the military and defend this country. Do you really think that the military will say "no thanks, you're not wanted....we heard you held back a year on your lacrosse club"

And as far as it being fair..... Life isn't fair!!! Oh, and just because he is a year older, doesn't mean he is better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

Can we put this into context for a second.....We are talking about a young man that is making a choice to enlist in the military and defend this country. Do you really think that the military will say "no thanks, you're not wanted....we heard you held back a year on your lacrosse club"

And as far as it being fair..... Life isn't fair!!! Oh, and just because he is a year older, doesn't mean he is better.

I don't really care about holdbacks playing college ball, or even high school for that matter! Holdbacks and pre-first does not belong in youth lax until they hit high school and college. If you want to hold a kid back, do it his after his freshman year of lax.

Are you guys talking about the 2019 who committed to army? He is supposed to be 2018? Good for the kid. Big decision as a freshman. Very surprised army is doing that. I thought they waited to at least sohpmore year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys talking about the 2019 who committed to army? He is supposed to be 2018? Good for the kid. Big decision as a freshman. Very surprised army is doing that. I thought they waited to at least sohpmore year.

Sad for the state of our society. Yet another example of moral decline. Does anybody even know what honor and integrity even mean anymore? Earn it because you deserve it, then you can hold your head high and garnish respect from your community.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol [/quote]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

I love how every single lacrosse event is a MONEY GRAB.

I have zero affiliation with any of these, but the reality is these are showcases ... nobody is going to these expecting beautiful lacrosse. Showcase = selfish, more aggressive play. Plain and simple. You're out there to get noticed, not blend in and hope you don't get called out.

And yes, if your kid is getting written up at high caliber events -- guess what, he's pretty damn good RIGHT NOW. Be proud of your son's accomplishments, but know the work hasn't even truly begun. Talent is talent, and it's obvious to many when you see standout kids ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

I love how every single lacrosse event is a MONEY GRAB.

I have zero affiliation with any of these, but the reality is these are showcases ... nobody is going to these expecting beautiful lacrosse. Showcase = selfish, more aggressive play. Plain and simple. You're out there to get noticed, not blend in and hope you don't get called out.

And yes, if your kid is getting written up at high caliber events -- guess what, he's pretty damn good RIGHT NOW. Be proud of your son's accomplishments, but know the work hasn't even truly begun. Talent is talent, and it's obvious to many when you see standout kids ... [/quote]

I think the point is that the event first of all was billed as a showcase but run as a tournament. A showcase picks all star teams to compete in a "Championship" . Showcases have college coaches watching. There were noNE except the ones being paid to be there. But the biggest problem was, the teams were not selected properly. Some had way to many kids at certain positions, making it nearly impossible to "standout" when the kids barely saw the field! This probably happened due to greed. They took to many kids for 600 a pop, then just threw them on teams. Poorly run money grab!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

What are you talking about, many Cadets who do not play sports (wait all cadets must play a sport), do a prep year regardless of Lacrosse or football Frisbee. Why for a moment would you call out a service academy student. They do not compare to the rest of the population.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

What are you talking about, many Cadets who do not play sports (wait all cadets must play a sport), do a prep year regardless of Lacrosse or football Frisbee. Why for a moment would you call out a service academy student. They do not compare to the rest of the population.

I think the criticism is about playing down as a youth to gain an unfair advantage. That part is unethical and unrelated to the "point" you ate attempting to make.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

What are you talking about, many Cadets who do not play sports (wait all cadets must play a sport), do a prep year regardless of Lacrosse or football Frisbee. Why for a moment would you call out a service academy student. They do not compare to the rest of the population.

I think the criticism is about playing down as a youth to gain an unfair advantage. That part is unethical and unrelated to the "point" you ate attempting to make.

understood but with the service academies many freshman are entering as older than typical freshman. I understand and despise the hold back scenario but to point out a child who decides on an academy should be off limits. I'd rather we say good luck and thanks in advance. but that is one persons opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

I love how every single lacrosse event is a MONEY GRAB.

I have zero affiliation with any of these, but the reality is these are showcases ... nobody is going to these expecting beautiful lacrosse. Showcase = selfish, more aggressive play. Plain and simple. You're out there to get noticed, not blend in and hope you don't get called out.

And yes, if your kid is getting written up at high caliber events -- guess what, he's pretty damn good RIGHT NOW. Be proud of your son's accomplishments, but know the work hasn't even truly begun. Talent is talent, and it's obvious to many when you see standout kids ...

I think the point is that the event first of all was billed as a showcase but run as a tournament. A showcase picks all star teams to compete in a "Championship" . Showcases have college coaches watching. There were noNE except the ones being paid to be there. But the biggest problem was, the teams were not selected properly. Some had way to many kids at certain positions, making it nearly impossible to "standout" when the kids barely saw the field! This probably happened due to greed. They took to many kids for 600 a pop, then just threw them on teams. Poorly run money grab![/quote]

I thought it was well run except for PT in games. Quality of players and skill was very high. General consensus among parents was that usually there is a soggy bottom of 50% or 25%, etc., of weaker players at events and at NLF Futures that soggy bottom might have been more like 5-10%. Again, though, if your kid was a middie, it was tough to get enough runs to get in the flow because of how much the face-off guys and LSM's were on the field.

I think they could have also added another skill session in the form of small-sided play. Evaluations would also have been far more valuable if they included observation of the skill sessions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

I love how every single lacrosse event is a MONEY GRAB.

I have zero affiliation with any of these, but the reality is these are showcases ... nobody is going to these expecting beautiful lacrosse. Showcase = selfish, more aggressive play. Plain and simple. You're out there to get noticed, not blend in and hope you don't get called out.

And yes, if your kid is getting written up at high caliber events -- guess what, he's pretty damn good RIGHT NOW. Be proud of your son's accomplishments, but know the work hasn't even truly begun. Talent is talent, and it's obvious to many when you see standout kids ...

I think the point is that the event first of all was billed as a showcase but run as a tournament. A showcase picks all star teams to compete in a "Championship" . Showcases have college coaches watching. There were noNE except the ones being paid to be there. But the biggest problem was, the teams were not selected properly. Some had way to many kids at certain positions, making it nearly impossible to "standout" when the kids barely saw the field! This probably happened due to greed. They took to many kids for 600 a pop, then just threw them on teams. Poorly run money grab![/quote]

you paid 600 to tryout to be invited to a showcase event which will cost another 600. If you went down there with your son with any more expectations than a weekend in the sun and some quality reps for your kid - you deserve to have your money grabbed

Out of the first 20 players drafted to the MLL over the weekend: six transferred in college, three changed commitments in HS and four PG'ed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush with 3 standouts at NLF according to recruiting rundown. Proving how balanced they are. As the 3 players that were standouts were not the "big 3"

I don't know who you think their "big 3" are, but I have see Crush play and the attack player and middies that were mentioned are clearly 2 of their top players.

NO MIDDIES WERE MENTIONED FROM CRUSH--11 middies per team---playing time was tough to come by

Other than Oneil there weren't many standouts. Terrible lacrosse, 11 mids on many teams, made playing time a joke. Most kids don't now how to play in a system and it showed.

Of course the lacrosse was terrible, it was nothing by a giant money grab. Of course, there a guys out there that actually think because their kid played there they are the "top 400" in the country! lol

I love how every single lacrosse event is a MONEY GRAB.

I have zero affiliation with any of these, but the reality is these are showcases ... nobody is going to these expecting beautiful lacrosse. Showcase = selfish, more aggressive play. Plain and simple. You're out there to get noticed, not blend in and hope you don't get called out.

And yes, if your kid is getting written up at high caliber events -- guess what, he's pretty damn good RIGHT NOW. Be proud of your son's accomplishments, but know the work hasn't even truly begun. Talent is talent, and it's obvious to many when you see standout kids ...

I think the point is that the event first of all was billed as a showcase but run as a tournament. A showcase picks all star teams to compete in a "Championship" . Showcases have college coaches watching. There were noNE except the ones being paid to be there. But the biggest problem was, the teams were not selected properly. Some had way to many kids at certain positions, making it nearly impossible to "standout" when the kids barely saw the field! This probably happened due to greed. They took to many kids for 600 a pop, then just threw them on teams. Poorly run money grab!

you paid 600 to tryout to be invited to a showcase event which will cost another 600. If you went down there with your son with any more expectations than a weekend in the sun and some quality reps for your kid - you deserve to have your money grabbed [/quote]

Maybe I do. Just wish it was better organized!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

No way. That's unfair. That means they are older and better than my on age son at Binghamton. Totally unfair.

What are you talking about, many Cadets who do not play sports (wait all cadets must play a sport), do a prep year regardless of Lacrosse or football Frisbee. Why for a moment would you call out a service academy student. They do not compare to the rest of the population.

I think the criticism is about playing down as a youth to gain an unfair advantage. That part is unethical and unrelated to the "point" you ate attempting to make.

The young man being discussed is in high school and not a youth player. I don't know him but his commitment to a service academy alone puts him on a level far higher than those the pontificate anonymously on this board.

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

Perhaps, but our son (a true 2017 who has committed to play at a service academy) was told by the academy coach that he will be applying for direct admission for the Class of 2021 - he will not be going the prep route.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

No need, if your kid is good enough they will receive a direct invite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

No need, if your kid is good enough they will receive a direct invite.

A direct invite to what, unless they changed the rules - no direct invites for Jake Reed. but we have all learned rules were made to be broken

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

No need, if your kid is good enough they will receive a direct invite.

A direct invite to what, unless they changed the rules - no direct invites for Jake Reed. but we have all learned rules were made to be broken

Trust me, I know some kids that have already been told they can expect one. It's who you know!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

No need, if your kid is good enough they will receive a direct invite.

A direct invite to what, unless they changed the rules - no direct invites for Jake Reed. but we have all learned rules were made to be broken

Trust me, I know some kids that have already been told they can expect one. It's who you know!

would that be the hold backs that went last year or the year before that.

Who was the other Crush Standout? Heard it was a defensemen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who was the other Crush Standout? Heard it was a defensemen.

Ok dad if anyone wants to know they'll find it and read it. Shameless plug

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A kid who is not playing by the rules, reclassing for an advantage, should not be representing our country at a military Acadamy. This is wrong. A part of the problem in this country. Lack of morals, character and ethics. Don't even try to defend yourself. Those playing by the rules know it's true! Very sad!

This young man will be defending our country some day! Stop being bitter, you should be thanking him and his parents. Seriously, stop being so bitter.

I am sorry to say, if you look at many of the boys headed to the academies many do a Prep year at the military prep school.

Perhaps, but our son (a true 2017 who has committed to play at a service academy) was told by the academy coach that he will be applying for direct admission for the Class of 2021 - he will not be going the prep route.

True 2017, but maybe on the older side of the spectrum. Either way, a big Congrats to your son and thank him in advance for picking this path. Good luck this season!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Kids" in 9th grade are not HS lax players yet as their first season has not started. If a kid is in 9th but supposed to be in 10th, and is willingly playing down on club teams, that shows a lack of integrity.

Just to get off this topic already, are a lot of boys from LI heading down to Florida?

No need, if your kid is good enough they will receive a direct invite.

A direct invite to what, unless they changed the rules - no direct invites for Jake Reed. but we have all learned rules were made to be broken

Trust me, I know some kids that have already been told they can expect one. It's who you know!

Are their rising freshmen directs this year?

Yes there are direct invites for 2020s to JR

No there are not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No there are not.

There definitely are. I know of kids told they can expect one.

They still have to attend the tryout in florida. Only rising sophomore and above can get direct invites

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They still have to attend the tryout in florida. Only rising sophomore and above can get direct invites

Ok, keep believe what the lacrosse gods tell you. Sheep!

Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

3d Blue Chip and JR are such money grabs. There are so many other ways to gain exposure.

What are they?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

Which coaches are you hinting at?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

Which coaches are you hinting at?

Do you mean King Crab??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

Which coaches are you hinting at?

Do you mean King Crab?? [2 2020 Crabs with direct invites]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

Which coaches are you hinting at?

Do you mean King Crab?? [2 2020 Crabs with direct invites]

The last two years, how many players were selected for the U19 national team from crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Apparently there are several coaches that JR will take recommendations from that result in a direct invite. This includes 2020s.

Which coaches are you hinting at?

Do you mean King Crab?? [2 2020 Crabs with direct invites]

The last two years, how many players were selected for the U19 national team from crabs

U19 National Team is every 4 years and none this time around for crabs. I believe Ryan Tucker played forcrabs and was on 2012 team

They U19 team is picked every 4 years dummy

So, crabs got shutout? Guess playing 8th grade lax at age 16 catches up to you!

No Crabs on 2016 team, 1 Crab on 2012 team

I hear Legacy brought a largely intact team down to 3d and they are playing together and being coached there by their regular coach? wth???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hear Legacy brought a largely intact team down to 3d and they are playing together and being coached there by their regular coach? wth???

Clear as mud

Same thing last year. And that team would would score too much, but instead of taking the Crush players out their coach would switch them to the other team and let them score some more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same thing last year. And that team would would score too much, but instead of taking the Crush players out their coach would switch them to the other team and let them score some more.

Yeah their fogo wasn't down last year so they took JB who won every one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Same thing last year. And that team would would score too much, but instead of taking the Crush players out their coach would switch them to the other team and let them score some more.

Yeah their fogo wasn't down last year so they took JB who won every one.

Thanks for the update Dad. Easy when the elite weren't there. Let me know next time he plays against the Looneys

Too bad the "stacked" team just lost.....too funny.

"Wait til they face the looney". Looney are a joke. All three LI teams will beat them . People reporting results of 3d tryouts lolollol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Wait til they face the looney". Looney are a joke. All three LI teams will beat them . People reporting results of 3d tryouts lolollol

Looneys beat all the long island teams last year except Crush, who got lucky and beat them by 1. This year they will beat all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Wait til they face the looney". Looney are a joke. All three LI teams will beat them . People reporting results of 3d tryouts lolollol

There were no fogos at 3d, so it's not to hard to look good. Relax!

Why the cloak of secrecy?

Hate the crush but seen both this fall Crush by 7+

Pretty pathetic you are reporting on a 3D camp .... Your son must be really proud of you !!!!!!!

Loonney's were an average 2020 team who became one of the better teams when they added a bunch of holdbacks. A simple formula that works but nothing to be pounding your chest about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty pathetic you are reporting on a 3D camp .... Your son must be really proud of you !!!!!!!

I didn't post it, but I'm curious why it would be pathetic to post about 3d camp.? It's one of the few 2020 events going on right now, so seems perfectly fine to post something on it. If I had to guess, your son must be on the "stacked" team that lost. It's not a tournament so no need to get angry about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonney's were an average 2020 team who became one of the better teams when they added a bunch of holdbacks. A simple formula that works but nothing to be pounding your chest about.

MD teams for the last 15 years, and now PA and Mass teams, amazingly improve in this grade year.... The parents like to say, "they caught up" too funny. Must be all the wall ball, yeah that's it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonney's were an average 2020 team who became one of the better teams when they added a bunch of holdbacks. A simple formula that works but nothing to be pounding your chest about.

MD teams for the last 15 years, and now PA and Mass teams, amazingly improve in this grade year.... The parents like to say, "they caught up" too funny. Must be all the wall ball, yeah that's it.

I believe you may be throwing stones from a glass house. Namen one competitive team that has no holdbacks and I will name you a liar. Even the Crush welcomed at least 2 new ones aboard this year. It is what it is, stop complaining and either beat'em or join 'em!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonney's were an average 2020 team who became one of the better teams when they added a bunch of holdbacks. A simple formula that works but nothing to be pounding your chest about.

MD teams for the last 15 years, and now PA and Mass teams, amazingly improve in this grade year.... The parents like to say, "they caught up" too funny. Must be all the wall ball, yeah that's it.

Looney's has been exceptional since 4th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty pathetic you are reporting on a 3D camp .... Your son must be really proud of you !!!!!!!

I didn't post it, but I'm curious why it would be pathetic to post about 3d camp.? It's one of the few 2020 events going on right now, so seems perfectly fine to post something on it. If I had to guess, your son must be on the "stacked" team that lost. It's not a tournament so no need to get angry about it.

Does the record of your team mean anything at these events? I would assume not.

How about the New Crush Middie from Huntington... A '19 reclassed that was OLD for 19's. What a joke--and yes, of course he looked really good down at 3D...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the New Crush Middie from Huntington... A '19 reclassed that was OLD for 19's. What a joke--and yes, of course he looked really good down at 3D...

Are you a deusche?
You really sound like an A-Hole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about the New Crush Middie from Huntington... A '19 reclassed that was OLD for 19's. What a joke--and yes, of course he looked really good down at 3D...

Are you a deusche?
You really sound like an A-Hole.

No I am not German

I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Loser.
Worry about your own kid, you stalker.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son.

I'm not a stalker or a loser. The aforementioned player was new to the '20 scene and I commented on it. No axe to grind with he or his father (you?) Truth stings a little?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Loser.
Worry about your own kid, you stalker.

Very typical answer from a moraly depraved loser.

Adapt and overcome...reclassing a new concept isn't going going away and my guess is neither is your whining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son. [/quote

Please tell your son to enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son. [/quote

Please tell your son to enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Most kids wil be playing ahead of your precious 16 year old 2020 player by college.

Hton dirt bag

I guess kids who reclass don't work hard and live with moral integrity. I guess kids who reclass will not get bigger or better. Do more for your kids, help them succeed instead of making excuses and helping them rationalize their mediocre lives. Again, enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son. [/quote

Please tell your son to enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Take a look at the Duke freshman class. See a trend? Almost all 1996 birthdays (and one 1995)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess kids who reclass don't work hard and live with moral integrity. I guess kids who reclass will not get bigger or better. Do more for your kids, help them succeed instead of making excuses and helping them rationalize their mediocre lives. Again, enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Playing kids 2 years younger to look good at the youth level does not guarantee anything. If you just spent 30-50K for private school in order to re-class that money could have been put away for tuition down the road to offset that 1/2 ride your son may get if lucky. BTW, club lacrosse gave my nephew time to intern during his senior year in school and has been offered a nice job and salary right after graduation. Hopefully your son gets something out of your spending a lot of money to disrupt his life, or give him an opportunity as you call it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess kids who reclass don't work hard and live with moral integrity. I guess kids who reclass will not get bigger or better. Do more for your kids, help them succeed instead of making excuses and helping them rationalize their mediocre lives. Again, enjoy club lacrosse in college.

You and your son are cheaters!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son. [/quote

Please tell your son to enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Take a look at the Duke freshman class. See a trend? Almost all 1996 birthdays (and one 1995)

Of the 11 Freshman at Duke they have 7 birthdays listed. One December 1995 who went to boarding school in CT. There are 2 late July 1996 which many people don't care too much about. The rest are December 1996 and March, April and June of 1997. All on age. There is really only one "true" holdback in that group. Not sure about the 3 without profiles yet.

He won't be spending that much...its only St. A's

Hey Dad, you know how to get the St. A's grad off your porch, right? Wait for it, wait, wait... Pay for the pizza! Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He won't be spending that much...its only St. A's

Hey Dad, you know how to get the St. A's grad off your porch, right? Wait for it, wait, wait... Pay for the pizza! Good luck.

I don't get it. Explain

Write it down now. Madlax 2020 is going to dominate this spring. Team looks awesome and will have several commits at the end of the summer.

Deal with it.

MADMAN>MADLAX

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I'm the author and I'm not German either. What part of my statement do you take such offense in? I find the act more deplorable. First hold back, then reclass. I wonder if he wouldv'e been such a standout with the 18's--where he should be!

Of course not. Kids reclass to look better than they are. I teach my son to work hard, not take the easy way out and cheat. In the long run, the result of living a life of moral integrity usually wins out. Sad that a parent would intentionally spoil that for their son. [/quote

Please tell your son to enjoy club lacrosse in college.

Take a look at the Duke freshman class. See a trend? Almost all 1996 birthdays (and one 1995)

Of the 11 Freshman at Duke they have 7 birthdays listed. One December 1995 who went to boarding school in CT. There are 2 late July 1996 which many people don't care too much about. The rest are December 1996 and March, April and June of 1997. All on age. There is really only one "true" holdback in that group. Not sure about the 3 without profiles yet.

Holdback daddy trying to justify his cheating ways. Newsflash: just because you can cite others who may have done this, foes not minimize the fact that you are a cheating weasel who does not believe their kid is good enough to play against kids his own age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Write it down now. Madlax 2020 is going to dominate this spring. Team looks awesome and will have several commits at the end of the summer.

Deal with it.

Dominate in what this spring, gardening, tree planting, community activities? Must be one of these because it certainly won't be in lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Write it down now. Madlax 2020 is going to dominate this spring. Team looks awesome and will have several commits at the end of the summer.

Deal with it.

Not you again! It had been quiet for a few weeks and I was hoping you had gone elsewhere.

MadWacks are #1

Keep hatin. Being the best always comes with a target on your back. Funny to see LI dads hate on clubs who have better teams.

I get tired of Md idiots shooting their mouths off about being the best. LI far better, get your own thread!

I'm a MD parent and have seen MadLax 2020 routinely get beaten. They are nowhere near the caliber of the usual top tier teams. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I get tired of Md idiots shooting their mouths off about being the best. LI far better, get your own thread!

What makes you think this is a LI thread? Read the title of the thread, no mention of any area. You immediately go into name calling. We don't give a crap what you get tired of, all you are doing is making yourself look like a meat head, which you may be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I get tired of Md idiots shooting their mouths off about being the best. LI far better, get your own thread!

What makes you think this is a LI thread? Read the title of the thread, no mention of any area. You immediately go into name calling. We don't give a crap what you get tired of, all you are doing is making yourself look like a meat head, which you may be.

Mental note to you - It may not a thread exclusively for LI 2020 but it is a Northeast thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Write it down now. Madlax 2020 is going to dominate this spring. Team looks awesome and will have several commits at the end of the summer.

Deal with it.

You must be confusing the 2019 team with 2020. We know several of the 2020 kids who play on the National team; even they admit there is a long way to go ...

Hey Max LAx guy. Nice to hear in your view your team has finally arrived as its been missing / absent from any A level tournament to this point in the boys careers. The 20 group was sort of a negative outlier to the whole Madlax program. Hopefully things have been fixed. Sounds like you are super confidant they have been.

Madlax is not in MD. It is in DC. In DC, Madlax 2020 is behind Next Level and VLC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax is not in MD. It is in DC. In DC, Madlax 2020 is behind Next Level and VLC.

How does Next Level rank amongst the MD/DC teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I get tired of Md idiots shooting their mouths off about being the best. LI far better, get your own thread!

The only 2020 team from LI that can claim dominance is 2020 Crush. Unless you are on Crush, you are not "far better".

Impressive to watch a 16 year old against 13 year olds. Wonder how my 13 year old would do against 10 year olds?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Impressive to watch a 16 year old against 13 year olds. Wonder how my 13 year old would do against 10 year olds?

Are you talking about the new kid? He's not 16 yet, easy there! Hek, my 13 year old 8th grader doesn�t even have hair under his arms yet.

What happened to Legacy TAZ?

Not sure what the question is a bout Taz

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

Box tournament ! Really Come on how. Many will either team even have

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

How did that work out for ya ? Yeah I thought so....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

How did that work out for ya ? Yeah I thought so....

Some prominant Crush kids looking especially tiny, will be hard to compete moving forward. Oh yea, reclases. But, already done that. So, do it again!!

Who won? Did Son's CRUSH? Or was it wishful thinking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

How did that work out for ya ? Yeah I thought so....

I'm pretty sure that comment was not from our camp.

I am a crabs parent who knows we have hold backs and we don't care what we think we win and by the way Coke is 16 but I don't care

Good for you! Its nice to be unencumbered by the social considerations and morals that most of us are encumbered with!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am a crabs parent who knows we have hold backs and we don't care what we think we win and by the way Coke is 16 but I don't care

Long Island dad all the way.

By the way, do any of you guys have the guts to come down any play us at the Madlax Capital Classic?

Didn't think so. Keep your mouth shut if you can't come down and play the best.

At NLF Where you couldn't get in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons are going to Crush it today!!!!

How did that work out for ya ? Yeah I thought so....

Some prominant Crush kids looking especially tiny, will be hard to compete moving forward. Oh yea, reclases. But, already done that. So, do it again!!

They really did look small, going into this summer Crush only has one or two early major D1 prospects the lefty attackman who is extremely skilled,athletic and huge, and also another big athletic defenseman, the rest are very good but very small, and in my opinion will have a tougher time moving forward

Why would anybody drive down to DC to play in a crappy second rate tournament run by a club that is a shadow of it's former self.

Funny I was there as well and felt like "wow they grew uh oh" felt they were bigger team when they played sons and seemed much bigger than Looneys Since when does size matte4 so much any how Size is a factor but NO way the deciding one Did anyone tell Matt Kavanaugh, Jordan Wolf, Rob Pannell, Joey Sankey etc they are done ?

the above players you mentioned are exceptions...there will always be exceptions...the game today is about size, being physical/contact and playing fast (both physically fast and with your decision making/IQ)

the game is not about size and im fortunate enough to have a good sized boy! That is what is great about lacrosse! Kevin Rice, Dylan Donoghue , the list goes on small attackman have taken over the game on college abd pro level other than a few big leftys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would anybody drive down to DC to play in a crappy second rate tournament run by a club that is a shadow of it's former self.

Shadow? Who does your son play for? I guarantee Madlax had more college commits than your club does.

You hate us because you can't be us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would anybody drive down to DC to play in a crappy second rate tournament run by a club that is a shadow of it's former self.

Shadow? Who does your son play for? I guarantee Madlax had more college commits than your club does.

You hate us because you can't be us.

For a while I just thought this Madlax posser was your typical 'failure in life/live through your kid parent' but more and more it sounds like the whack job moron who runs the program, nothing better to do than trolling forums?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would anybody drive down to DC to play in a crappy second rate tournament run by a club that is a shadow of it's former self.

Shadow? Who does your son play for? I guarantee Madlax had more college commits than your club does.

You hate us because you can't be us.

And it is so easy to hate you because you say whatever you want but NEVER back it up. All talk and no action.

Keep talking [lacrosse]. My club plays in every competitive tournament out their and I never seem to see Madlax 2020 in any of them. Never see them in Crabs Tourney, NLF Tourney, NXT Cup, etc. Either you are afraid to play in competitive tourneys or your director is content putting Madlax teams in his own lme tournaments so that he can double dip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would anybody drive down to DC to play in a crappy second rate tournament run by a club that is a shadow of it's former self.

Shadow? Who does your son play for? I guarantee Madlax had more college commits than your club does.

You hate us because you can't be us.

For a while I just thought this Madlax posser was your typical 'failure in life/live through your kid parent' but more and more it sounds like the whack job moron who runs the program, nothing better to do than trolling forums?

Pretty sure it is a kid stirring the pot.

No. Kids don't talk like that. He's the same guy who talks S on the Maryland program. Says that madlax kills everyone. Lol

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

Are we really going to start this again? Who cares, just wait till the kids play!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

91 MD is not that great.

Fca isn't either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Edge Canada will be up there competeing and beating those top teams...

Madlax 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fca isn't either

Hawks is not either

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020.

Your comedy Skit is AWSOME!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Edge Canada will be up there competeing and beating those top teams...

Assuming that the games do not need to be stopped because of their dirty play.

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

Did you forget that Crush lost to them at Beach Lax when Crabs brought kids who were playing on the 2019 team down just for the tourney - those same kids were back playing 2019 the following week. 6'2" and 180 pounds - even their HUDL pages are confused on which team they are on but guess now that they officially reclassed they are "okay". The fact that they beat both Crush and Breakers by one goal in OT games at Beach Lax with their holdbacks just goes to show that the holdbacks make the difference for them. Denver clearly showed that when they had to play with on age kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

WSYL......... Nothing more to say.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

Yes, then Crush humiliated Crabs on national TV! I think Crush beat Crabs by 2 touchdowns!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Don't forget 2020 teams now have repeat kids added to the mix, so who knows what teams step out from mediocrity to become highly competitive. Son's Westchester NY team added 6. (3 of whom are 2 years older) Not saying son's team will be competitive at the highest level, just saying some teams are going to look a little different because this is the year kids repeat in the Northeast. (I'll [lacrosse] and moan about this repeat trend on the Complaints forum haha)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Edge Canada will be up there competeing and beating those top teams...

Assuming that the games do not need to be stopped because of their dirty play.

Is Edge counting their PG years again making their 2020 really the 2019? They can play Crabs all they want and see whose 2019(wink wink 2020) is bigger, faster and older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Edge Canada will be up there competeing and beating those top teams...

Assuming that the games do not need to be stopped because of their dirty play.

Is Edge counting their PG years again making their 2020 really the 2019? They can play Crabs all they want and see whose 2019(wink wink 2020) is bigger, faster and older.

Just curious, what is "PG year"?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heading into Spring- list the top 10 2020 teams......

91 Crush - till somebody beats them they are on top!
Crabs - too many 15 year olds turning 16 this summer for the other teams to be able to complete with.
FCA - Crabs light, see above minus 2 or 3 holdbacks
Looney's - everything depends on their FOGO
Hawks
LI Express
91 MD

Edge Canada will be up there competeing and beating those top teams...

Assuming that the games do not need to be stopped because of their dirty play.

Is Edge counting their PG years again making their 2020 really the 2019? They can play Crabs all they want and see whose 2019(wink wink 2020) is bigger, faster and older.

Just curious, what is "PG year"?

Post Graduate. It's when a 9th grader says "I'm going to do a post graduate year after high school so I'm playing with the 8th graders now."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

I guess crush figured if they can't beat'em, join 'em, as they welcome several new holdbacks to their team. Please stop whining and trying to make excuses for losing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

I guess crush figured if they can't beat'em, join 'em, as they welcome several new holdbacks to their team. Please stop whining and trying to make excuses for losing!

And you should stop denying what Crabs does and have the guts to admit it. Not only holdbacks but Crabs also brings in older kids to play on younger teams in tournaments. Win at all cost is Crabs motto and give me more money is the motto of the Crabs leader. The entire organization, leaders/coaches and parents are all pathetic. They are a true embarrassment in youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

I guess crush figured if they can't beat'em, join 'em, as they welcome several new holdbacks to their team. Please stop whining and trying to make excuses for losing!

And you should stop denying what Crabs does and have the guts to admit it. Not only holdbacks but Crabs also brings in older kids to play on younger teams in tournaments. Win at all cost is Crabs motto and give me more money is the motto of the Crabs leader. The entire organization, leaders/coaches and parents are all pathetic. They are a true embarrassment in youth lacrosse.

If they are such an embarrassment, why are the two organizations involved together in the money grab know as NLF. Oh , yea, they both really care about the kids!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

I guess crush figured if they can't beat'em, join 'em, as they welcome several new holdbacks to their team. Please stop whining and trying to make excuses for losing!

And you should stop denying what Crabs does and have the guts to admit it. Not only holdbacks but Crabs also brings in older kids to play on younger teams in tournaments. Win at all cost is Crabs motto and give me more money is the motto of the Crabs leader. The entire organization, leaders/coaches and parents are all pathetic. They are a true embarrassment in youth lacrosse.

If they are such an embarrassment, why are the two organizations involved together in the money grab know as NLF. Oh , yea, they both really care about the kids! [/quote

If that makes you happy then believe it. Seems to many people that many of the clubs that formed NLF are making a ton of money. Some hide behind the statement they are a 501-c-3 not for profit. The club itself may fall in that category but when it comes to tournaments etc, all that falls outside the boundaries of the 501 not for profit and the tournaments are cash cows. True the kids get a chance and somewhere to play but look at the cost per player/team. It is not all about the kids and that is the shameful part. But all of this is a sepeerate issue from what Crabs does about the many holdbacks in their group and how they go well beyond the true intent of grade base youth lacrosse. Again, that is also an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush already lost to Crabs, remember Beach Lax? LOL funny how this seems to be forgotten!

By cheating...."Placement on a grade based team (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

There were 8th Crabs (rostered with the 2019 team) playing against 7th graders. The next week they were back with the 2019's again - pathetic and shameful.

I guess crush figured if they can't beat'em, join 'em, as they welcome several new holdbacks to their team. Please stop whining and trying to make excuses for losing!

And you should stop denying what Crabs does and have the guts to admit it. Not only holdbacks but Crabs also brings in older kids to play on younger teams in tournaments. Win at all cost is Crabs motto and give me more money is the motto of the Crabs leader. The entire organization, leaders/coaches and parents are all pathetic. They are a true embarrassment in youth lacrosse.

Save the holier than thou routine.....if holding back is such an outrage to Team 91 then I assume all of its precious Crush players are age appropriate by NYS standards? What is that I hear? Cricket, cricket? It is called hypocrisy my friend.

If your kid plays for a non NLF team get are behind the 8 ball

What teams are NLF teams?

Keep telling yourself that.

So if I live in ny , that means only the 45 kids that play for 91 and Express are only getting looks ? That is a ridiculous post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams are NLF teams?

Leading Edge, Laxachusetts, HHH, Express, 91, Crabs. Their recent futures showcase in Florida was loaded with talent. There were also kids from other clubs there too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams are NLF teams?

Leading Edge, Laxachusetts, HHH, Express, 91, Crabs. Their recent futures showcase in Florida was loaded with talent. There were also kids from other clubs there too.

I don't understand why all other teams are SOL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid plays for a non NLF team get are behind the 8 ball

complete joke statement. 700 division 1 recruits in each class. NLF has 120 kids in each class. And in the 2020 group, outside teams are beating these NLF teams consistently!! Plent of space for other clubs and kids. However, thats what these 6 clubs are telling their families, their kids and kids parents that they want. JOKE. Develop your own back yard. Big fraudulent scam.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid plays for a non NLF team get are behind the 8 ball

complete joke statement. 700 division 1 recruits in each class. NLF has 120 kids in each class. And in the 2020 group, outside teams are beating these NLF teams consistently!! Plent of space for other clubs and kids. However, thats what these 6 clubs are telling their families, their kids and kids parents that they want. JOKE. Develop your own back yard. Big fraudulent scam.

Some snippits from HS thread: here are some numbers.

There are approximately 100 2019 verbal commitments. I would guess 95% have not played a Varsity game.

It looks like every single one of the kids play Club.

There are approximately 30 Clubs represented.

Sweetlax, Laxachussets, Big 4 HHH, and Edge are leading the pack. Express, Madlax, Crabs, 91 and some others are not far behind, all have multiple commits.

There will be another 150 - 200 kids committed after this summer with the majority of kids being from the 30 or so clubs with current commits.

About 20 DI Schools have at least one 2019 commit. The usual suspects have as many as 13.

I would guess that 15 - 18 of the current Top 20 college programs have at least one freshman committed and just about all of the Top 30 - 40 schools were actively recruiting the class of 2019 this past summer and fall.

Like it or not playing on one of the top club teams has advantages. Exposure to more college coaches and playing in the most competitive tournaments are two of the advantages. Even after kids commit college coaches are encouraging their recruits to continue to play with these club because they want them playing against the best competition.

You are correct that there are a lot of spots but they are filling up fast at many of the top programs/schools.

Remember, there is more than on way to skin a cat. You do not have to play on one of the top club teams in order to be recruited but to diminish or ignore the facts and or benefits/advantages is foolish.

To each his own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid plays for a non NLF team get are behind the 8 ball

complete joke statement. 700 division 1 recruits in each class. NLF has 120 kids in each class. And in the 2020 group, outside teams are beating these NLF teams consistently!! Plent of space for other clubs and kids. However, thats what these 6 clubs are telling their families, their kids and kids parents that they want. JOKE. Develop your own back yard. Big fraudulent scam.

Some snippits from HS thread: here are some numbers.

There are approximately 100 2019 verbal commitments. I would guess 95% have not played a Varsity game.

It looks like every single one of the kids play Club.

There are approximately 30 Clubs represented.

Sweetlax, Laxachussets, Big 4 HHH, and Edge are leading the pack. Express, Madlax, Crabs, 91 and some others are not far behind, all have multiple commits.

There will be another 150 - 200 kids committed after this summer with the majority of kids being from the 30 or so clubs with current commits.

About 20 DI Schools have at least one 2019 commit. The usual suspects have as many as 13.

I would guess that 15 - 18 of the current Top 20 college programs have at least one freshman committed and just about all of the Top 30 - 40 schools were actively recruiting the class of 2019 this past summer and fall.

Like it or not playing on one of the top club teams has advantages. Exposure to more college coaches and playing in the most competitive tournaments are two of the advantages. Even after kids commit college coaches are encouraging their recruits to continue to play with these club because they want them playing against the best competition.

You are correct that there are a lot of spots but they are filling up fast at many of the top programs/schools.

Remember, there is more than on way to skin a cat. You do not have to play on one of the top club teams in order to be recruited but to diminish or ignore the facts and or benefits/advantages is foolish.

To each his own.

I agree. There are enough events to get noticed though and not be an NLF member. Does it help? Yes, but these coaches know who the other top teams are. Looneys 2020 has a ton of D1 kids on it. You think colleges aren't going to find them because their not NLF members?

You guys sure love looking at the birthdays of kids, calling people cheaters, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your kid plays for a non NLF team get are behind the 8 ball

complete joke statement. 700 division 1 recruits in each class. NLF has 120 kids in each class. And in the 2020 group, outside teams are beating these NLF teams consistently!! Plent of space for other clubs and kids. However, thats what these 6 clubs are telling their families, their kids and kids parents that they want. JOKE. Develop your own back yard. Big fraudulent scam.

Some snippits from HS thread: here are some numbers.

There are approximately 100 2019 verbal commitments. I would guess 95% have not played a Varsity game.

It looks like every single one of the kids play Club.

There are approximately 30 Clubs represented.

Sweetlax, Laxachussets, Big 4 HHH, and Edge are leading the pack. Express, Madlax, Crabs, 91 and some others are not far behind, all have multiple commits.

There will be another 150 - 200 kids committed after this summer with the majority of kids being from the 30 or so clubs with current commits.

About 20 DI Schools have at least one 2019 commit. The usual suspects have as many as 13.

I would guess that 15 - 18 of the current Top 20 college programs have at least one freshman committed and just about all of the Top 30 - 40 schools were actively recruiting the class of 2019 this past summer and fall.

Like it or not playing on one of the top club teams has advantages. Exposure to more college coaches and playing in the most competitive tournaments are two of the advantages. Even after kids commit college coaches are encouraging their recruits to continue to play with these club because they want them playing against the best competition.

You are correct that there are a lot of spots but they are filling up fast at many of the top programs/schools.

Remember, there is more than on way to skin a cat. You do not have to play on one of the top club teams in order to be recruited but to diminish or ignore the facts and or benefits/advantages is foolish.

To each his own.

I agree. There are enough events to get noticed though and not be an NLF member. Does it help? Yes, but these coaches know who the other top teams are. Looneys 2020 has a ton of D1 kids on it. You think colleges aren't going to find them because their not NLF members?

Don't tell 91 or Express parents your inside info. The owners need more $$$$

Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else

Coaches will want to see top players playing other top players. Hopefully Looneys can find some tournaments that let second rate clubs in or Next year our tryouts will be crowded in MD

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

what LI team has the most players born in 2001

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else

In that order? I doubt that. Madlax maybe shouldn't even be included. And keep in mind Crabs is really a 2019 team, based on DOB for most of its starting players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else

In that order? I doubt that. Madlax maybe shouldn't even be included. And keep in mind Crabs is really a 2019 team, based on DOB for most of its starting players.

But aren't there holdbacks on all of those teams? Maybe you should keep that in mind and stop with the excuses! Or maybe it's easy to be a cry baby when you lose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Like it or not, youth teams are not grouped by grade, so crying/investigating birthdays is a waste of time.

Funny to see Madlax on that list. Those dad sure like to pump up what is an average team at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else

In that order? I doubt that. Madlax maybe shouldn't even be included. And keep in mind Crabs is really a 2019 team, based on DOB for most of its starting players.

But aren't there holdbacks on all of those teams? Maybe you should keep that in mind and stop with the excuses! Or maybe it's easy to be a cry baby when you lose

This is the summer that holdbacks/repeaters start to show up on 2020 teams in the Northeast. (Sorry I don't really consider Maryland northeast on my map) All you have to do is sign up for a Md. based summer camp (eg. Stanwick), where they enroll kids up to grade 8, or up 16 years of age. My 2020 8th grade Westchester son will turn 14 this summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else

In that order? I doubt that. Madlax maybe shouldn't even be included. And keep in mind Crabs is really a 2019 team, based on DOB for most of its starting players.

But aren't there holdbacks on all of those teams? Maybe you should keep that in mind and stop with the excuses! Or maybe it's easy to be a cry baby when you lose

Sure, all teams have a few holdbacks but not to the extent that Crabs violates the spirit of grade base youth lacrosse. No one cries if they lose to Crabs, everyone knows how Crabs operates, especially their 2020 team with a few double holdbacks, they just abuse the system. Just from reading your post it appears you are the cry baby. Perhaps a Crab dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Beatdown in the fall? You got to be kidding, they lost to Crabs 6/4, don't call that a beatown especially when mainly a team of 13 year olds playing a team of 14 and close to 15 year olds. If it makes you feel good that this was a beatdown, have at it. Good night Crab fan/dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches will want to see top players playing other top players. Hopefully Looneys can find some tournaments that let second rate clubs in or Next year our tryouts will be crowded in MD

What are you talking about with Looney's? The only second rate club I can think of, as far as ethics goes, is Crabs, they have no ethics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Coaches will want to see top players playing other top players. Hopefully Looneys can find some tournaments that let second rate clubs in or Next year our tryouts will be crowded in MD

What are you talking about with Looney's? The only second rate club I can think of, as far as ethics goes, is Crabs, they have no ethics.

It's the Wolf of Wall St. Syndrome!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Beatdown in the fall? You got to be kidding, they lost to Crabs 6/4, don't call that a beatown especially when mainly a team of 13 year olds playing a team of 14 and close to 15 year olds. If it makes you feel good that this was a beatdown, have at it. Good night Crab fan/dad.

You must not have been there. Crabs were up 5-1 or something before letting in a few cheapie. It was not close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Beatdown in the fall? You got to be kidding, they lost to Crabs 6/4, don't call that a beatown especially when mainly a team of 13 year olds playing a team of 14 and close to 15 year olds. If it makes you feel good that this was a beatdown, have at it. Good night Crab fan/dad.

You must not have been there. Crabs were up 5-1 or something before letting in a few cheapie. It was not close.

So.... Coach Ryan McCoward and the double holdbacks only managed 6 goals? Truly pathetic!

Just as many holdbacks on Looney's and other clubs. Team 91 has them, too.

You are the one looking idiotic since these are grade based teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as many holdbacks on Looney's and other clubs. Team 91 has them, too.

You are the one looking idiotic since these are grade based teams.

Almost every club team has holdbacks but not at the level of Crabs. They exploit the grade base system and are known as the cheaters of youth lacrosse. Double holdbacks on 2020 and their starters are all holdbacks. As someone else posted, all of Crabs rosters were accidentally released at tournament last fall, many other coaches have the birth dates of all of their players. So in the end, it is you who looks like an idiot by your continued denial that Crabs has no more than any other team. That's just plain BS and you know it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Beatdown in the fall? You got to be kidding, they lost to Crabs 6/4, don't call that a beatown especially when mainly a team of 13 year olds playing a team of 14 and close to 15 year olds. If it makes you feel good that this was a beatdown, have at it. Good night Crab fan/dad.

You must not have been there. Crabs were up 5-1 or something before letting in a few cheapie. It was not close.

I was there, and it was never that much of a spread. And how is it that when another team scores on Crabs it is a cheapie? Go back to your 2019 team pretending to be a 2020. There are a few on 2020 who turn 16 this summer, that must make you really proud. Read the post above yours, the age difference is amazing and Crabs only won by 2 goals. What does that tell you Crab dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as many holdbacks on Looney's and other clubs. Team 91 has them, too.

You are the one looking idiotic since these are grade based teams.

Your right, I'm pathetic raising an A student who plays on age for a very competitive club that has beaten Crabs multiple times. Sorry your integrity and morals are flawed, allowing your 16 year old to play 14 year olds.

If he can't handle his school work then get an IEP! Your coddled baby boy can be 16 learning Algebra I, but he shouldn't be 16 and playing against 14 year olds!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Best 2020 teams

91 Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Looneys

Everyone else [/quote

Looneys will beat all those teams!

Definitely won't beat Crabs after they got beatdown in the fall.

Beatdown in the fall? You got to be kidding, they lost to Crabs 6/4, don't call that a beatown especially when mainly a team of 13 year olds playing a team of 14 and close to 15 year olds. If it makes you feel good that this was a beatdown, have at it. Good night Crab fan/dad.

You must not have been there. Crabs were up 5-1 or something before letting in a few cheapie. It was not close.

I was there, and it was never that much of a spread. And how is it that when another team scores on Crabs it is a cheapie?

Not a Crabs dad, but it was a 4 goal spread. It was 6-2 and the Looneys scored a couple of goals very late when it had already been decided. The term cheapie usually refers to inconsequential goals when the outcome is not in doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as many holdbacks on Looney's and other clubs. Team 91 has them, too.

You are the one looking idiotic since these are grade based teams.

Almost every club team has holdbacks but not at the level of Crabs. They exploit the grade base system and are known as the cheaters of youth lacrosse. Double holdbacks on 2020 and their starters are all holdbacks. As someone else posted, all of Crabs rosters were accidentally released at tournament last fall, many other coaches have the birth dates of all of their players. So in the end, it is you who looks like an idiot by your continued denial that Crabs has no more than any other team. That's just plain BS and you know it.

It astounds me that as youth club lacrosse growth has skyrocketed there has never been a greater push to an age based system to at least 9th or 10th grade. The fact is the majority (not all) of Westchester and LI lacrosse clubs are made up of public school kids where the only way you can be held back is by failing academically, or moving to a private school. In Maryland suburbs, (Baltimore in particular) the majority of lacrosse players go to private schools where being held back is the norm. So, if this Crab parent wants to admit it or not, his son probably goes to (Boys Latin, Gilman, Loyola or one of their feeder schools)a boys private school where a typical 8th grader may be 16, whereas in the typical LI or Westchester public school the youth player is 14. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just as many holdbacks on Looney's and other clubs. Team 91 has them, too.

You are the one looking idiotic since these are grade based teams.

Almost every club team has holdbacks but not at the level of Crabs. They exploit the grade base system and are known as the cheaters of youth lacrosse. Double holdbacks on 2020 and their starters are all holdbacks. As someone else posted, all of Crabs rosters were accidentally released at tournament last fall, many other coaches have the birth dates of all of their players. So in the end, it is you who looks like an idiot by your continued denial that Crabs has no more than any other team. That's just plain BS and you know it.

It astounds me that as youth club lacrosse growth has skyrocketed there has never been a greater push to an age based system to at least 9th or 10th grade. The fact is the majority (not all) of Westchester and LI lacrosse clubs are made up of public school kids where the only way you can be held back is by failing academically, or moving to a private school. In Maryland suburbs, (Baltimore in particular) the majority of lacrosse players go to private schools where being held back is the norm. So, if this Crab parent wants to admit it or not, his son probably goes to (Boys Latin, Gilman, Loyola or one of their feeder schools)a boys private school where a typical 8th grader may be 16, whereas in the typical LI or Westchester public school the youth player is 14. It is what it is.

It is comical how the Crabs keep trying to point the finger at other clubs. They do not seem to understand that they have made a systematic change within their organization and to the lacrosse landscape by encouraging kids in their club to hold back. Crabs is mostly if not all private followed by FCA but not all the clubs in maryland are mostly private- Looneys, Roughriders, 91 MD etc. are a good mix of public and private which helps to keep things real and prevents a starting line up of all holdbacks. If Hoco posted the rosters with schools and DOB, it would help the clubs who are being painted with the Crabs/FCA brush to prove once and for all they are a mix and there might be one holdback on those teams. Some summer DOBs which we can all argue about but not a team full of kids who made the decision to repeat a grade for a sports edge.

I think ALL clubs should protest by not playing crabs when scheduled to do so in a tournament. then after a summer of no games they'll get it and just sign their team up for '19 bracket, where they should be and the world will return to order. 91 should bump their double hold back to their 19 team as well.

Its a grade based system and college coaches actively recruit 8th graders. Should we really expect that there would be no holdbacks? I know we all want to blame Crabs but they didnt create this system. I also dont see how its relavant as to which team has the most holdbacks. You either have them or you dont.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its a grade based system and college coaches actively recruit 8th graders. Should we really expect that there would be no holdbacks? I know we all want to blame Crabs but they didnt create this system. I also dont see how its relavant as to which team has the most holdbacks. You either have them or you dont.

You are absolutely correct, but if you are a team full of 16 year old's beating teams made up of 14/15/16 year old's you shouldn't come on here pounding your chest or complaining about a lack of respect. It sounds like they've gamed the system, and hopefully it doesn't affect these kids when they actually have to play against similar aged/sized competition later on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its a grade based system and college coaches actively recruit 8th graders. Should we really expect that there would be no holdbacks? I know we all want to blame Crabs but they didnt create this system. I also dont see how its relavant as to which team has the most holdbacks. You either have them or you dont.

Not so. Ryan M created the holdback crap when he was doing it to his HS team players, getting them to repeat a year, in order to gain an advantage. He was one of the strongest proponents for the grade base system in other age brackets so he could further his cheating ways. It is very relevant as to the number of holdbacks. Most club teams have a few, Crabs has a sh*tload of them, especially on 2020 and 2021 teams, just outright abusing the sprit of the grade base system. Maybe college coaches are recruiting 8th grade players, who are usually 14 years old. Crab players in the 8th grade are 15 and some will be 16 by this summer, plus 2020 has two double holdbacks. Go check it out, Crabs and Ryan M created this bullsh*t and he struts around like it is nothing. He and his organization are a total embarrassment to youth lacrosse, in Md and in other areas of the country. Would I like to see teams boycott playing his 2020 team, I would love it but it won't happen. If it did and he had no one to play from Md just maybe he would wise up. Until then, he will just be the master thief and manipulator of youth club lacrosse. Sickening.

People just single out Crabs because they are successful. Madlax has more holdbacks than anyone, but nobody cares as much because Madlax isn't nearly as successful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People just single out Crabs because they are successful. Madlax has more holdbacks than anyone, but nobody cares as much because Madlax isn't nearly as successful.

No they don't, stop making things up to get the heat off of Crabs. Everyone knows about Crabs, the way they and Ryan M works and how he believes he is the top club in lacrosse. Give me a 2020 team of 15/16 year old youth lacrosse players and that team would do well. He just doesn't believe in doing it the right way, he wants older stronger teams, helps his bottom line cash flow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its a grade based system and college coaches actively recruit 8th graders. Should we really expect that there would be no holdbacks? I know we all want to blame Crabs but they didnt create this system. I also dont see how its relavant as to which team has the most holdbacks. You either have them or you dont.

Not so. Ryan M created the holdback crap when he was doing it to his HS team players, getting them to repeat a year, in order to gain an advantage. He was one of the strongest proponents for the grade base system in other age brackets so he could further his cheating ways. It is very relevant as to the number of holdbacks. Most club teams have a few, Crabs has a sh*tload of them, especially on 2020 and 2021 teams, just outright abusing the sprit of the grade base system. Maybe college coaches are recruiting 8th grade players, who are usually 14 years old. Crab players in the 8th grade are 15 and some will be 16 by this summer, plus 2020 has two double holdbacks. Go check it out, Crabs and Ryan M created this bullsh*t and he struts around like it is nothing. He and his organization are a total embarrassment to youth lacrosse, in Md and in other areas of the country. Would I like to see teams boycott playing his 2020 team, I would love it but it won't happen. If it did and he had no one to play from Md just maybe he would wise up. Until then, he will just be the master thief and manipulator of youth club lacrosse. Sickening.

So the fact that the other big name clubs have taken on holdbacks is ok? Ok because they only have 3 or so? Is there a magic cutoff number? Not sure what your argument is? Is it ok to have 3 or 4, but not 5 or 6? I believe you can't single out the Crabs if your own club is playing with holdbacks. Trust me, I'm against it, and my son plays on a team that has some. However I feel it would be Hypocritical for me to call out other teams for doing the same thing my son's team does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

People just single out Crabs because they are successful. Madlax has more holdbacks than anyone, but nobody cares as much because Madlax isn't nearly as successful.

So what you are saying is that it's ok to abuse the system and the spirit of grade base lacrosse as long as you are successful. That's really weak.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its a grade based system and college coaches actively recruit 8th graders. Should we really expect that there would be no holdbacks? I know we all want to blame Crabs but they didnt create this system. I also dont see how its relavant as to which team has the most holdbacks. You either have them or you dont.

Not so. Ryan M created the holdback crap when he was doing it to his HS team players, getting them to repeat a year, in order to gain an advantage. He was one of the strongest proponents for the grade base system in other age brackets so he could further his cheating ways. It is very relevant as to the number of holdbacks. Most club teams have a few, Crabs has a sh*tload of them, especially on 2020 and 2021 teams, just outright abusing the sprit of the grade base system. Maybe college coaches are recruiting 8th grade players, who are usually 14 years old. Crab players in the 8th grade are 15 and some will be 16 by this summer, plus 2020 has two double holdbacks. Go check it out, Crabs and Ryan M created this bullsh*t and he struts around like it is nothing. He and his organization are a total embarrassment to youth lacrosse, in Md and in other areas of the country. Would I like to see teams boycott playing his 2020 team, I would love it but it won't happen. If it did and he had no one to play from Md just maybe he would wise up. Until then, he will just be the master thief and manipulator of youth club lacrosse. Sickening.

So the fact that the other big name clubs have taken on holdbacks is ok? Ok because they only have 3 or so? Is there a magic cutoff number? Not sure what your argument is? Is it ok to have 3 or 4, but not 5 or 6? I believe you can't single out the Crabs if your own club is playing with holdbacks. Trust me, I'm against it, and my son plays on a team that has some. However I feel it would be Hypocritical for me to call out other teams for doing the same thing my son's team does.

I agree, all club teams have "some". I don't think/feel there is a magic number, most clubs probably have 2 or 3 on average. The problem I have with Crabs, as do many others, is the way their leader exploits this and creates teams with +7 or more holdbacks on many of their teams. This is done solely to gain an advantage over other teams, like their 2020 team, with much older kids playing 13 and young 14 year olds. This is wrong on so many levels, the entire lacrosse community knows they do it but this does not stop that organization from continuing this. It is not a level field. The worse that could happen is that other clubs start loading their rosters with 8+ holdbacks. This, in my opinion, would have a very negative impact on youth lacrosse. My sons team has two.

They don't have 7+ holdbacks, but keep on lying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They don't have 7+ holdbacks, but keep on lying.

No one is lying but you Crab dad.

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They don't have 7+ holdbacks, but keep on lying.

6 holdbacks plus about 5 pre-first!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They don't have 7+ holdbacks, but keep on lying.

Take a look at 2019 Hudl page for BLC for the 2014-5 season - 4 of the current 2020 players are still showing there and two were the the biggest players on the 2019 team. Now they are just men among youth. Add to them, those that were already on the team and you are pretty darn close to 7 - now count the pre-firsts on the team. Are any of the players really 2020 AGE?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think ALL clubs should protest by not playing crabs when scheduled to do so in a tournament. then after a summer of no games they'll get it and just sign their team up for '19 bracket, where they should be and the world will return to order. 91 should bump their double hold back to their 19 team as well.

91 has a reverse double holdback - he is playing two years up on Crush and it is a well known fact. Who are you talking about on 91 with a double holdback. Rosters would prove otherwise.

Nobody cares except LI dads who get mad that their kids aren't good enough.

LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares except LI dads who get mad that their kids aren't good enough.

LOL.

Wait, MD Dad! Your son is so talented, he has to play down against kids 2 years younger to stand out? Who's not good enough? Now that's LOL, hahahaha. I have to ask? When you take your 15 year old home from a game... Do you say something like? "you really killed it today son, I'm so proud of you" Playing against those 13 year olds you really showed your stuff. I could go on... Hysterically funny, and oh so sad at the same time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares except LI dads who get mad that their kids aren't good enough.

LOL.

Wait, MD Dad! Your son is so talented, he has to play down against kids 2 years younger to stand out? Who's not good enough? Now that's LOL, hahahaha. I have to ask? When you take your 15 year old home from a game... Do you say something like? "you really killed it today son, I'm so proud of you" Playing against those 13 year olds you really showed your stuff. I could go on... Hysterically funny, and oh so sad at the same time.

As the parent of on age Maryland 2020 AA parent, this is not a LI vs MD thing - hold backs are a private school thing. Kids attending private school are the only ones allowed to hold back for non academic reasons and in both regions they are doing it. Unfortunately, here in MD we have the Crabs who have tainted all of us - we dislike it just as much as anyone else but there are still plenty of parents who feel it is wrong and that the Crabs have ruined youth sports for all the kids. Problem is the hold back parents are just too selfish to see anything wrong with what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody cares except LI dads who get mad that their kids aren't good enough.

LOL.

Wait, MD Dad! Your son is so talented, he has to play down against kids 2 years younger to stand out? Who's not good enough? Now that's LOL, hahahaha. I have to ask? When you take your 15 year old home from a game... Do you say something like? "you really killed it today son, I'm so proud of you" Playing against those 13 year olds you really showed your stuff. I could go on... Hysterically funny, and oh so sad at the same time.

Well said. The fact that these spineless cowards can't see the irony in calling age appropriate kids not good enough, when the only reason their little fairies are playing down, is because they couldn't cut it with kids their own age. Talk about raising boys with no balls. I guess just like the fathers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think ALL clubs should protest by not playing crabs when scheduled to do so in a tournament. then after a summer of no games they'll get it and just sign their team up for '19 bracket, where they should be and the world will return to order. 91 should bump their double hold back to their 19 team as well.

91 has a reverse double holdback - he is playing two years up on Crush and it is a well known fact. Who are you talking about on 91 with a double holdback. Rosters would prove otherwise.

That would be a 1 year up player. Should play 7th grade clearly,as the birth year is 1st half of that grad cut off. Please stop with this! Team also have 2 kids that played on the 91 2019 team last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

You say academic reasons? I have been a Baltimore County public school teacher for 20 years and I have written many many recommendations for students moving from public to private schools. In my years I maybe recommended a half dozen kids o repeat a grade. Most kids repeating grades are doing so solely for the purpose of sports (lacrosse) then academics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

Yes. An anonymous Internet post constitutes evidence.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

Yes. An anonymous Internet post constitutes evidence.

So I guess you didn't visit the Huddle page the previous poster referenced. Or perhaps looked at last year's 2019 Crabs roster to compare with this year's 2020?

JUST OWN IT. Why is it so damn hard for you guys? The post may be anonymous on this board, but the people posting are in the know. My son has played with and against the Crabs; knows several of the kids. It isn't rocket science.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

When you know how the Crabs organization and Ryan M works, this is truly believable and accurate. The sh*t with this organization never changes, it just keeps getting worse.

Yes. An anonymous Internet post constitutes evidence.

A former 2020 Crab (last year) showed up at the tryouts for the team my son plays on and told us that his son was told by the Crabs coach, that they would love to keep him as a Crab, but that he would have to reclass to 2021. Because they didn't have room for him on the 2020 roster any more. He said that the coach told this same thing to another player and he did indeed reclass to say a Crab. This family decided to stay in 8th grade and will play for another team this summer. All I can say is people are NUTS

Here is a typical Crabs scenario. A kid who is a good attackman, class of 2019 at Gilman school. Ryan M convinces him to re-class. He repeats 7th grade at the Calvert school (k-8 near Gilman). Kid comes back, now 2020 and on the Crabs. Re-classing is my biggest beef with Crabs. Unfortunately he has two willing schools in Gilman and Boys Latin to aid him in this nonsense.

crabs can get all the hold backs they want. its all good. but one thing is for certain. you still cant beat CRUSH!!!!

I don't know if that's a typical scenario, but it's a factual one in that the boy re-classed. My son played with the boy. Nice kid, good attackman. I can't say for a fact it was because of RM and not academics, but it doesn't look good. I'll leave it to others to throw the insults around.

Crush has their holdbacks too, my friend.

10plus Holdbacks is an alarming number, let alone any kids that started late wow RM WOW

Let's not be hypocrites. Maybe the reason more LI kids don't reclass is because as big as LI is it's still a small social network. What I mean is everyone knows everyone's business. A lot of gossip and word travels fast across the Island. That is a contributing factor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's not be hypocrites. Maybe the reason more LI kids don't reclass is because as big as LI is it's still a small social network. What I mean is everyone knows everyone's business. A lot of gossip and word travels fast across the Island. That is a contributing factor.

Or maybe, LI parents raise their kids to accept that you have to work hard to excel. Life isn't about taking shortcuts and finding loopholes. Morals, ethics, hard work are critically important life lessons (remember, characteristics youth sports were supposed to help instill). Also, maybe the LI boys have enough respect for themselves and have developed a sufficient backbone to recognize that having to play against younger boys to compete, just makes you a coward, wimp, weakling......it's a long list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's not be hypocrites. Maybe the reason more LI kids don't reclass is because as big as LI is it's still a small social network. What I mean is everyone knows everyone's business. A lot of gossip and word travels fast across the Island. That is a contributing factor.

Another reason is... They don't have to!!! Skill, grit and toughness beat age and size every time. In 2018 NYS Leads in commits by a wide margin. Double the next state. What changes, stays the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let's not be hypocrites. Maybe the reason more LI kids don't reclass is because as big as LI is it's still a small social network. What I mean is everyone knows everyone's business. A lot of gossip and word travels fast across the Island. That is a contributing factor.

Compared to the Baltimore private school self serving clique? You are kidding!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

You say academic reasons? I have been a Baltimore County public school teacher for 20 years and I have written many many recommendations for students moving from public to private schools. In my years I maybe recommended a half dozen kids o repeat a grade. Most kids repeating grades are doing so solely for the purpose of sports (lacrosse) then academics.

It depends on how you interpret the phrase "academic reason". If the kid is failing, that would be a legitimate reason. However, if your "academic reason" is part of an overall strategy to gain entrance to a particular school, that is something much different. Repeating the 8th or 9th grade allows the student to not only game the system athletically, but academically as well. It would stand to reason that the average student should be able to turn his 85-88 GPA into a 95-98 the second time around. Effectively duping the brain dead liberals that occupy the office space in admissions. Am I to believe, none of these "prestigious" schools look at the kids age verse their grade level? They don't ask: Is this the second or in some cases the third time this kid has taken these courses??? Perhaps at this point it is beyond the admissions departments comprehension that people would stoop so low to gain entrance to their name brand school. Who knows? It is clear that the strategy of recruiting 20 year old freshman is not panning out that well. Just look at the recent losses of the biggest offenders: UNC, JUH, UVA. Just five years ago these losses would never occur. Sooner or later the kid has to step up and play against the older kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

You say academic reasons? I have been a Baltimore County public school teacher for 20 years and I have written many many recommendations for students moving from public to private schools. In my years I maybe recommended a half dozen kids o repeat a grade. Most kids repeating grades are doing so solely for the purpose of sports (lacrosse) then academics.

It depends on how you interpret the phrase "academic reason". If the kid is failing, that would be a legitimate reason. However, if your "academic reason" is part of an overall strategy to gain entrance to a particular school, that is something much different. Repeating the 8th or 9th grade allows the student to not only game the system athletically, but academically as well. It would stand to reason that the average student should be able to turn his 85-88 GPA into a 95-98 the second time around. Effectively duping the brain dead liberals that occupy the office space in admissions. Am I to believe, none of these "prestigious" schools look at the kids age verse their grade level? They don't ask: Is this the second or in some cases the third time this kid has taken these courses??? Perhaps at this point it is beyond the admissions departments comprehension that people would stoop so low to gain entrance to their name brand school. Who knows? It is clear that the strategy of recruiting 20 year old freshman is not panning out that well. Just look at the recent losses of the biggest offenders: UNC, JUH, UVA. Just five years ago these losses would never occur. Sooner or later the kid has to step up and play against the older kids...

Large majority of kids I wrote recommendations for were already "A" students.

Of the ten plus Crabs how many are 15 years old ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

You say academic reasons? I have been a Baltimore County public school teacher for 20 years and I have written many many recommendations for students moving from public to private schools. In my years I maybe recommended a half dozen kids o repeat a grade. Most kids repeating grades are doing so solely for the purpose of sports (lacrosse) then academics.

It depends on how you interpret the phrase "academic reason". If the kid is failing, that would be a legitimate reason. However, if your "academic reason" is part of an overall strategy to gain entrance to a particular school, that is something much different. Repeating the 8th or 9th grade allows the student to not only game the system athletically, but academically as well. It would stand to reason that the average student should be able to turn his 85-88 GPA into a 95-98 the second time around. Effectively duping the brain dead liberals that occupy the office space in admissions. Am I to believe, none of these "prestigious" schools look at the kids age verse their grade level? They don't ask: Is this the second or in some cases the third time this kid has taken these courses??? Perhaps at this point it is beyond the admissions departments comprehension that people would stoop so low to gain entrance to their name brand school. Who knows? It is clear that the strategy of recruiting 20 year old freshman is not panning out that well. Just look at the recent losses of the biggest offenders: UNC, JUH, UVA. Just five years ago these losses would never occur. Sooner or later the kid has to step up and play against the older kids...

Large majority of kids I wrote recommendations for were already "A" students.

Big difference in being an A student in Middle school vs HS. Many more distractions. Know plenty of kids who were 95+ in MS. The wheels seem to come off the bus a bit in HS.

Madlax 2020 will win HoCo Elite. Guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 will win HoCo Elite. Guaranteed.

their not even in it. hahahahahahah

Most credible studies conclude holdbacks for sports or academic advantage have a greater chance of failure in the workforce and have more psychological problems as adults. Parents should think twice before holding a kid back for the wrong reasons. The funny thing is parents who hold kids back for the wrong reason almost never talk to mental health professionals and make the decision alone with a lacrosse or other athletic coach. Crazy stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So I will start by saying I am bitter. My son was on the Crabs over the past two years. This year he was cut as there were many older boys brought down. Trust me when I tell you there are over 10 hold backs on that team some for academic reasons but many from the guidance of RM . These are facts there is no disputing this as my son knows all the boys

Don't think we need more evidence than this

You say academic reasons? I have been a Baltimore County public school teacher for 20 years and I have written many many recommendations for students moving from public to private schools. In my years I maybe recommended a half dozen kids o repeat a grade. Most kids repeating grades are doing so solely for the purpose of sports (lacrosse) then academics.

It depends on how you interpret the phrase "academic reason". If the kid is failing, that would be a legitimate reason. However, if your "academic reason" is part of an overall strategy to gain entrance to a particular school, that is something much different. Repeating the 8th or 9th grade allows the student to not only game the system athletically, but academically as well. It would stand to reason that the average student should be able to turn his 85-88 GPA into a 95-98 the second time around. Effectively duping the brain dead liberals that occupy the office space in admissions. Am I to believe, none of these "prestigious" schools look at the kids age verse their grade level? They don't ask: Is this the second or in some cases the third time this kid has taken these courses??? Perhaps at this point it is beyond the admissions departments comprehension that people would stoop so low to gain entrance to their name brand school. Who knows? It is clear that the strategy of recruiting 20 year old freshman is not panning out that well. Just look at the recent losses of the biggest offenders: UNC, JUH, UVA. Just five years ago these losses would never occur. Sooner or later the kid has to step up and play against the older kids...

Large majority of kids I wrote recommendations for were already "A" students.

Big difference in being an A student in Middle school vs HS. Many more distractions. Know plenty of kids who were 95+ in MS. The wheels seem to come off the bus a bit in HS.

Just wondering what teams will be going to NSCLA this year.

Loonies, Roughriders, NH tomahawks, Sons

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

Looking forward to 91MD, Sons, NH Tomahawks, fl$ playdate in two weeks. Common weather. No storms!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

That's funny because my 8th grader just turned 13 in November.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

Happy birthday! I remember when the hockey stats always said 1st qtr birthdays were the older better kids, Now look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

Happy birthday! I remember when the hockey stats always said 1st qtr birthdays were the older better kids, Now look.

what are we supposed to look at?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

That's funny because my 8th grader just turned 13 in November.

Congrats to doogie howser

that's correct. His son has an early on-grade birthday while your son has a late on-grade birthday. A true 2020, 8th grade, in New [lacrosse] was born between December 1, 2001 and November 30, 2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's correct. His son has an early on-grade birthday while your son has a late on-grade birthday. A true 2020, 8th grade, in New [lacrosse] was born between December 1, 2001 and November 30, 2002.

my son is 11/30/02 should i holdback ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's correct. His son has an early on-grade birthday while your son has a late on-grade birthday. A true 2020, 8th grade, in New [lacrosse] was born between December 1, 2001 and November 30, 2002.

Maryland is September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2001 for 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's correct. His son has an early on-grade birthday while your son has a late on-grade birthday. A true 2020, 8th grade, in New [lacrosse] was born between December 1, 2001 and November 30, 2002.

Maryland is September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2001 for 2020.

I think that you mean until August 31, 2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that's correct. His son has an early on-grade birthday while your son has a late on-grade birthday. A true 2020, 8th grade, in New [lacrosse] was born between December 1, 2001 and November 30, 2002.

Maryland is September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2001 for 2020.

Think you meant August 31, 2002.

Hey Maryland that makes no sense. Don't you mean September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2002 for 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Maryland that makes no sense. Don't you mean September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2002 for 2020?

yes, sorry!

News alert: tournaments are grade based. Bringing up birthdates over and over again shows how obsessed you losers are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News alert: tournaments are grade based. Bringing up birthdates over and over again shows how obsessed you losers are.

Hey Crabs [lacrosse]. Good to see you here. Now run along and get busy with Junior's driving lessons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I just wanted to wish my 8th Grade 2020 AA Elite player a Happy 14th Birthday.....

Happy birthday! I remember when the hockey stats always said 1st qtr birthdays were the older better kids, Now look.

what are we supposed to look at?

How things change. For better or worse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News alert: tournaments are grade based. Bringing up birthdates over and over again shows how obsessed you losers are.

Hey Crabs [lacrosse]. Good to see you here. Now run along and get busy with Junior's driving lessons.

You really need some new material.

I have nothing to do with the Crabs (other than my son has played against them). But you really look like an idiot crying about something that is not against the rules. If you don't like it, don't play in age based events.

CRABS....its great, you have the entire youth lacrosse world realize you cheat, are with out values, and gamed the system.
My boy would never play there. NICE REP!!

Looking forward to seeing MADLAX first hand this Sunday...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

News alert: tournaments are grade based. Bringing up birthdates over and over again shows how obsessed you losers are.

Hey Crabs [lacrosse]. Good to see you here. Now run along and get busy with Junior's driving lessons.

You really need some new material.

I have nothing to do with the Crabs (other than my son has played against them). But you really look like an idiot crying about something that is not against the rules. If you don't like it, don't play in age based events.

So he's the idiot for wanting to bring back some integrity to the game vs. bury his head in the sand and sing "la la la I'm ignoring everything"? Why are you bitching, it's the rules!

Hey NFL players, why are you whining about concussions all the time? You wimps, the rules say you can knock the crap out of each other and bang heads all day! If you don't like it, go play golf. Losers.

Do you see where you logic leads? Do you understand things change for a reason; and change needs support to gain traction and make a difference when you stand up for something you know is right? We call that leadership and integrity.

Good job dad. I hope your son follows in your footsteps and chooses convenience over character.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing MADLAX first hand this Sunday...

Where are they playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looking forward to seeing MADLAX first hand this Sunday...

Where are they playing?

I guess at the same lame tournament as this guys team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CRABS....its great, you have the entire youth lacrosse world realize you cheat, are with out values, and gamed the system.
My boy would never play there. NICE REP!!

laughing all the way to hopkins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CRABS....its great, you have the entire youth lacrosse world realize you cheat, are with out values, and gamed the system.
My boy would never play there. NICE REP!!

laughing all the way to hopkins

Who happen to be struggling badly and won't win a thing in part to the recruiting of holdback losers like your son!

Madlax 2020 is not going to play HoCo because the entire league is scared of us. I bet LI teams will be scared as well to play us this spring. Typical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

CRABS....its great, you have the entire youth lacrosse world realize you cheat, are with out values, and gamed the system.
My boy would never play there. NICE REP!!

laughing all the way to hopkins

You can laugh all you want, but sitting next to your son at Hopkins was a kid that did not need to be retained a year to play down to get recruited. Talents never plays down! There will be plenty more of those kids than kids like yours that needed a helping hand.

"I guess at the same lame tournament as this guys team"...

Yes, exactly. Thanks Mr. Sunshine. Bitter? Son small? bad birthday, little weenie, no cash, owe back $ on your dated SUV with lax stickers all over it? Were you even all league in anything or just an angry grump. World has enough negative losers...why don't you try and be a better kinder person--it is harder without a doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is not going to play HoCo because the entire league is scared of us. I bet LI teams will be scared as well to play us this spring. Typical.

Thanks. You owe me a new keyboard and monitor. I spit out all the coffee I was drinking and then read your comment and almost choked laughing!!!!!!!

P.S. Don't forget to pay your Academy dues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 is not going to play HoCo because the entire league is scared of us. I bet LI teams will be scared as well to play us this spring. Typical.

You are out of your mind. Madlax 2020 would have a hard time with a Cobra U14 rec team from HOCO. Where in the [lacrosse] do you dream up this stuff. Or, maybe you are the mad owner of Madlax, but in any event pay up for the keyboard and monitor you caused to be ruined.

Thanks. You owe me a new keyboard and monitor. I spit out all the coffee I was drinking and then read your comment and almost choked laughing!!!!!!!

P.S. Don't forget to pay your Academy dues.

Hey anyone see the 3D write up? Zummo, really? 90% of the write ups were kids on your team. Does 3D stand for "dummy"? What a joke of a money grab. You think people don't know whats going on but they do- Dummy! Do everyone a big favor and just keep the money people give you, don't let them spend anymore on travel and just write things up the way you just did. Same result. Some of those kids couldn't hit the side of a barn or never got a chance to show anything since the teams a pre-determined and stacked for obvious reasons. How much they pay you for it. Guys like you (and a lot of other clowns) are making these showcases even more embarassing than they alredy are. Don't get me started on the others. Maybe the rest will remember this post before you write up your next articel and try and do it based on skill and effort and not the club team or how runs it or better yet whose pocket they are in- Dummy!

Which 2020 club will have the first commit? Crabs, crush, looneys, fca, 91?

Does it matter. We all know the lefty from crush could pick any school he wants right now. Everyone else is second if that's your concern.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which 2020 club will have the first commit? Crabs, crush, looneys, fca, 91?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey anyone see the 3D write up? Zummo, really? 90% of the write ups were kids on your team. Does 3D stand for "dummy"? What a joke of a money grab. You think people don't know whats going on but they do- Dummy! Do everyone a big favor and just keep the money people give you, don't let them spend anymore on travel and just write things up the way you just did. Same result. Some of those kids couldn't hit the side of a barn or never got a chance to show anything since the teams a pre-determined and stacked for obvious reasons. How much they pay you for it. Guys like you (and a lot of other clowns) are making these showcases even more embarassing than they alredy are. Don't get me started on the others. Maybe the rest will remember this post before you write up your next articel and try and do it based on skill and effort and not the club team or how runs it or better yet whose pocket they are in- Dummy!

They went down there with a dedicated club team and still lost to teams thrown together on the spot. That is the funny part. What is not funny is spending thousands to go to FLA in the hope your kid would get a fair shake only to see how certain club leaders try to game the system. Shouldn't be surprised after witnessing similar BS at Brine. This is just too often how it works.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey anyone see the 3D write up? Zummo, really? 90% of the write ups were kids on your team. Does 3D stand for "dummy"? What a joke of a money grab. You think people don't know whats going on but they do- Dummy! Do everyone a big favor and just keep the money people give you, don't let them spend anymore on travel and just write things up the way you just did. Same result. Some of those kids couldn't hit the side of a barn or never got a chance to show anything since the teams a pre-determined and stacked for obvious reasons. How much they pay you for it. Guys like you (and a lot of other clowns) are making these showcases even more embarassing than they alredy are. Don't get me started on the others. Maybe the rest will remember this post before you write up your next articel and try and do it based on skill and effort and not the club team or how runs it or better yet whose pocket they are in- Dummy!

They went down there with a dedicated club team and still lost to teams thrown together on the spot. That is the funny part. What is not funny is spending thousands to go to FLA in the hope your kid would get a fair shake only to see how certain club leaders try to game the system. Shouldn't be surprised after witnessing similar BS at Brine. This is just too often how it works.

I would say, lol! However, this has become the norm. Prominent club coaches/directors tell their kids to sign up for certain showcases because they will be favored. Sad part is that some kids are actually attending hoping for an honest evaluation. spending money they may not have to help their kids. You directors from Legacy, 91, Express,etc, should be ashamed of yourselves. Several kids on that write up did not do [lacrosse] and everyone who was there knows it. Others who were written up at certain positions had 0% competition so yeah they looked good?? A total joke, and the actual deserving kids, nobody knows who those are because for every legit write up the is a shady no evidence one!

I agree with the kid from crush. Saw him at a clinic and he is so physically mature for his age. Incredible stick but when playing with older kids his speed wasn't there but that is to be expected. Probably will have pick of any school.

It's either gonna be the kid from crush, the fogo from looneys, the crabs attack em ,or the lefty attack men from fca

A normal person would be embarrassed: bringing your club team down at once, "arranging" it so they all stay together as a team and then coaching that same team yourself. What gets ignored, however, is that when a disproportionate number of those same kids get written up after the fact nobody actually believes it. They just figure it is an extension of the back room deals that led up to that point. So in the end, you actually diminish kids who may be not only good players, but talented enough to have garnered recognition on their own.....if only the grown-ups believed in them enough to not put their finger on the scale but rather let it play out fair and square. Shame on 3d really for allowing that type of manipulation. As to the coach/director, again, at some point a normal person would be embarrassed. You are not doing these kids any favors.

A kid that is exclusively a fogo will NOT be a first to go. Lefty's first

Crabs without a doubt since they are all Holdbacks.

The 8th grade Lefty from FCA will be celebrating his 15th birthday soon. Maybe his commitment will be a birthday present.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A normal person would be embarrassed: bringing your club team down at once, "arranging" it so they all stay together as a team and then coaching that same team yourself. What gets ignored, however, is that when a disproportionate number of those same kids get written up after the fact nobody actually believes it. They just figure it is an extension of the back room deals that led up to that point. So in the end, you actually diminish kids who may be not only good players, but talented enough to have garnered recognition on their own.....if only the grown-ups believed in them enough to not put their finger on the scale but rather let it play out fair and square. Shame on 3d really for allowing that type of manipulation. As to the coach/director, again, at some point a normal person would be embarrassed. You are not doing these kids any favors.

Exactly, the only problem is club directors are not normal people. Glad this was exposed, just feel bad for a couple of the kids who actually were deserving, it's now turned into a joke.

wrong. lefty's bday in mid Aug.

I have a new showcase. Its called "pay to play".
$2500 per player and I will write up everyone and email all the college coaches for you. That work? Send registration form to my email:
Ionlycareaboutthemoney.com or greasemeforawriteup.org

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a new showcase. Its called "pay to play".
$2500 per player and I will write up everyone and email all the college coaches for you. That work? Send registration form to my email:
Ionlycareaboutthemoney.com or greasemeforawriteup.org

Here is a joke in of itself framed as a question: why not just skip the lacrosse, charge less and do a speed dating event in a rented out coffee shop? Each kid and parent can sit for 10 minutes in front of coaches and talk about their favorite movies and ice cream flavors and dad can show the highlight film to them on an iPad plus hand over the impressive middle school report cards.

Could charge $150 a head and cut the coaches in on the vig and make no small fortune spinning thousands of kids and parents through.

If this is going to be a joke, it should be an EFFECTIVELY MANAGED joke.

Where is this article? Looking for a giggle during lunch.

Giggle. Pick a site. Read the NY Post, more truth in those articles than the 3D write ups. Time to be called out folks. Keep up the BS and you will be called out here. Enough is enough. You are ruining the entire process (or should I say already ruined it) Question. Whats worse this or the political special interests?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A normal person would be embarrassed: bringing your club team down at once, "arranging" it so they all stay together as a team and then coaching that same team yourself. What gets ignored, however, is that when a disproportionate number of those same kids get written up after the fact nobody actually believes it. They just figure it is an extension of the back room deals that led up to that point. So in the end, you actually diminish kids who may be not only good players, but talented enough to have garnered recognition on their own.....if only the grown-ups believed in them enough to not put their finger on the scale but rather let it play out fair and square. Shame on 3d really for allowing that type of manipulation. As to the coach/director, again, at some point a normal person would be embarrassed. You are not doing these kids any favors.

Curious if a corresponding number of kids from the team that beat Zummos badly were written up

Everyone is a money grab, you guys should know that by now

You are all nuts. My son does not play for Zummo and I was at 3 d event in Florida. His kids stood out as the top players at the event. It was basically express fl$ and non hotbed kids. Zummo's team is one of the top teams in age group ( top 7 or 8) Why wouldn't his kids get written up.

How is 3 Village Lacrosse in this age group?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A normal person would be embarrassed: bringing your club team down at once, "arranging" it so they all stay together as a team and then coaching that same team yourself. What gets ignored, however, is that when a disproportionate number of those same kids get written up after the fact nobody actually believes it. They just figure it is an extension of the back room deals that led up to that point. So in the end, you actually diminish kids who may be not only good players, but talented enough to have garnered recognition on their own.....if only the grown-ups believed in them enough to not put their finger on the scale but rather let it play out fair and square. Shame on 3d really for allowing that type of manipulation. As to the coach/director, again, at some point a normal person would be embarrassed. You are not doing these kids any favors.

Curious if a corresponding number of kids from the team that beat Zummos badly were written up

Well, if you count the reclass on Crush, 15 playing 13-year-olds, he was written up as being "one of the bigger, more athletic".... Oh, I wonder why he stood out?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all nuts. My son does not play for Zummo and I was at 3 d event in Florida. His kids stood out as the top players at the event. It was basically express fl$ and non hotbed kids. Zummo's team is one of the top teams in age group ( top 7 or 8) Why wouldn't his kids get written up.

Sorry walnuts, the rain must have kept you inside, anyone with one eye could see what was going on. Do you think if the Express or any other team/coach came down, placed his kids on one team and then coached them within system they would look good? My kid made it but fact is there was total bias.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all nuts. My son does not play for Zummo and I was at 3 d event in Florida. His kids stood out as the top players at the event. It was basically express fl$ and non hotbed kids. Zummo's team is one of the top teams in age group ( top 7 or 8) Why wouldn't his kids get written up.

Sorry walnuts, the rain must have kept you inside, anyone with one eye could see what was going on. Do you think if the Express or any other team/coach came down, placed his kids on one team and then coached them within system they would look good? My kid made it but fact is there was total bias.

Previous poster is a dad of one of the "Stand outs" . Does he think we would really believe he was just randomly keeping track of the *** boys. Hysterical! Nice try

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all nuts. My son does not play for Zummo and I was at 3 d event in Florida. His kids stood out as the top players at the event. It was basically express fl$ and non hotbed kids. Zummo's team is one of the top teams in age group ( top 7 or 8) Why wouldn't his kids get written up.

You're high....

Another showcase money grab exposed as a fraud! Is this really any surprise? Disgusting!

is the under armour underclass event an invitation only event for 2020s? Is it worthwhile event to spend money on?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the under armour underclass event an invitation only event for 2020s? Is it worthwhile event to spend money on?

Anyone can tryout but 2018 2019 and 2020. If they're good enough to play against the older kids I would say it's worth it

My personal opinion, there are NO worthwhile "showcase" individual events. The only good showcases are team ones. Because when anyone goes to an individual event the kids play very selfishly and it end up being a giant waste of time. Save your money people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My personal opinion, there are NO worthwhile "showcase" individual events. The only good showcases are team ones. Because when anyone goes to an individual event the kids play very selfishly and it end up being a giant waste of time. Save your money people

Are you a club owner???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My personal opinion, there are NO worthwhile "showcase" individual events. The only good showcases are team ones. Because when anyone goes to an individual event the kids play very selfishly and it end up being a giant waste of time. Save your money people

You are completely and utterly mis-informed. An all-star performance at a top showcase will have the phone ringing, I promise you. My son is committed. You need to be selective, but some are a must.

I agree team showcases are way to go.
Only way my kid got calls.
Other showcases are a money making grab- total waste of time

At this age College Coaches CAN NOT call you after any showcase its against the rules. The College Coach will contact your Travel or Schools coach to tell them they are interested. Then you will call them back at a certain time to discuss anything further like a visit.. Etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My personal opinion, there are NO worthwhile "showcase" individual events. The only good showcases are team ones. Because when anyone goes to an individual event the kids play very selfishly and it end up being a giant waste of time. Save your money people

You are completely and utterly mis-informed. An all-star performance at a top showcase will have the phone ringing, I promise you. My son is committed. You need to be selective, but some are a must.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My personal opinion, there are NO worthwhile "showcase" individual events. The only good showcases are team ones. Because when anyone goes to an individual event the kids play very selfishly and it end up being a giant waste of time. Save your money people

The key words here are "personal opinion".

It is silly to say that if your son has an MVP or all star performance at a highly regarded showcase that it wouldn't be beneficial (e.g. Black Card, UA, Philly Freshman, Showtime).

Coaches know it is ME BALL at individual showcases; they also know that the level of competition is generally higher at the quality events.

Kids that have D1 level talent stand out. The problem is most lacrosse parents actually aren't good judges of talent; hence they think their kid is D1 material and should be treated as such. So when the all star or MVP write ups happen and their kid isn't included, well of course it was a waste of time and money!

The didn't pass enough, they didn't slide right, the other kids had no idea how to play 2 man properly, blah blah blah. Elite kids find a way to make an impression.

If it was easy, we'd have more then 5% of kids playing D1. And no, I'm not a club owner or run camps, etc. etc. Just an dad who has been around the game his whole life and has first hand experience.

My son went to 3 showcase-written up in one- not one shred of interest.
Went to 3 collage team showcases and high school coach was call all 3 times. One time we got a call from high school coach before we made it to car in parking lot.
Team showcases are the way to go
Even if coach sees you at showcases he is going ask you to go to his team prospect camp

This is great! Watch the landscape change now!

US Lacrosse Adopts New Player Segmentation Policy

US Lacrosse today announced a new player segmentation policy to ensure player safety, competitive fairness and a consistent experience for youth lacrosse. The US Lacrosse Board of Directors approved the policy in January, and it takes effect Sept. 1, 2017 (earlier adoption is encouraged).
Policy highlights include grouping players by single-age years, using Sept. 1 as the determining date for a player's age and as the first day of a 12-month playing calendar, and standardizing nomenclature that lists the age first, i.e., 12U.

LOL. Crying LI dads pester USL into going back to age based. I have no problem with that, but doing teams with kids within 12 months of each other (instead of 24) is going to cause problems. Much harder to field teams with such a narrow band. U15, U13, U11, etc. is much easier to do thatn U15, U14, U13, etc.

Amazing how US Lacrosse was hounded by LI dads who didn't like to see their sons lose on the field. Those guys are in for a shock when their kids get pummeled in HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Crying LI dads pester USL into going back to age based. I have no problem with that, but doing teams with kids within 12 months of each other (instead of 24) is going to cause problems. Much harder to field teams with such a narrow band. U15, U13, U11, etc. is much easier to do thatn U15, U14, U13, etc.

Amazing how US Lacrosse was hounded by LI dads who didn't like to see their sons lose on the field. Those guys are in for a shock when their kids get pummeled in HS.

There are plenty of players. There is going to be no problem fielding teams. That's ridiculous. And maybe some teams should combine anyway.

LOL - you are a complete idiot. Holdback are going to be a thing of the past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Crying LI dads pester USL into going back to age based. I have no problem with that, but doing teams with kids within 12 months of each other (instead of 24) is going to cause problems. Much harder to field teams with such a narrow band. U15, U13, U11, etc. is much easier to do thatn U15, U14, U13, etc.

Amazing how US Lacrosse was hounded by LI dads who didn't like to see their sons lose on the field. Those guys are in for a shock when their kids get pummeled in HS.

LOL. Don't whine and cry now that your son has to play on age. It's too bad he can't beat up on kids a year younger to prove himself and hope to shine.

You'll be amazed when your holdback enters HS and gets pummeled as well by upperclassmen. What's truly amazing is you think your holdback son is a super star cause he plays against kids younger then him. Way to go!

First 2020 commit coming this afternoon from Crush.

It's a shame where this sport is going. Good for him and his family. These college coaches should be ashamed. I'm sorry

Ty has a 2020 committing today.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Ty has a 2020 committing today.

Is this all just part of a grander plan to get families and kids on the drug sooner and sooner so they can stay on it longer and longer? Rank 8th graders. Rank 7th graders...pushes the clock to be hyped on events for a year or two ahead of that. Then, on the back end, sell years of committed events. You wouldn't want to pledge to a college in 8th grade and then never get better, right? Committed camps, combines, ice cream parties, etc. etc. This sleaze just runs like black mold up a bathroom wall. Pretty pathetic and also sad.

Can't really blame Ty. It's the coaches making the offers.

It certainly seemed to turn out to be who folks expected. . .

This isnt the fault of the player or coaches its the University that offers Who's making the offers

I want an Instagram selfie of someone sitting next to the admissions director with that "oh dear Jesus" look on his face. No wait, this is Penn State we are talking about. Never mind.

Is there really a rush to grab a spot at Penn State?

What school do you guys think? My prediction would be in this order
1.Hopkins
2.Virginia
3.Maryland
4.Cuse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Ty has a 2020 committing today.

Is this all just part of a grander plan to get families and kids on the drug sooner and sooner so they can stay on it longer and longer? Rank 8th graders. Rank 7th graders...pushes the clock to be hyped on events for a year or two ahead of that. Then, on the back end, sell years of committed events. You wouldn't want to pledge to a college in 8th grade and then never get better, right? Committed camps, combines, ice cream parties, etc. etc. This sleaze just runs like black mold up a bathroom wall. Pretty pathetic and also sad.

But I can (and do) use a biocide for the mold in my bathroom.

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Does anyone know the Year this commit was born in? As an '8th' grader is he born in 2000, 2001 or 2002?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know the Year this commit was born in? As an '8th' grader is he born in 2000, 2001 or 2002?

Should be 2001/2002 unless he is a Crab in which case it would be 1999.

Once the 5 guys on Crush commit, expect that team to disband. The coach doesn't care about anyone other than the top 5 guys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know the Year this commit was born in? As an '8th' grader is he born in 2000, 2001 or 2002?

Congrats to the kid! True 8th grader- 2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once the 5 guys on Crush commit, expect that team to disband. The coach doesn't care about anyone other than the top 5 guys.

True!! But some will still pay the $$$ so they can ride pine, Sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once the 5 guys on Crush commit, expect that team to disband. The coach doesn't care about anyone other than the top 5 guys.

You can only wish! That type response is why your kid is on a sub par team. Excuses excuses hopes and dreams Btw. You'll never know but when kids commit. College coaches want and need to see them continue to develop. So no the team won't disband and I'm pretty sure for that college coach knowing where that kid plays was a big factor. You'll see when your son commits his senior year. Ohh

Congrats to this boy..He is that good and puts the time in.
But seriously, my 13-year-old who is a true 2020, has no clue where he wants to go to college. He has no clue how many universities are out there, what they are known for, and only knows the few teams he sees playing on the TV.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once the 5 guys on Crush commit, expect that team to disband. The coach doesn't care about anyone other than the top 5 guys.

You can only wish! That type response is why your kid is on a sub par team. Excuses excuses hopes and dreams Btw. You'll never know but when kids commit. College coaches want and need to see them continue to develop. So no the team won't disband and I'm pretty sure for that college coach knowing where that kid plays was a big factor. You'll see when your son commits his senior year. Ohh

Well... we can compare to Turtles. The Best Committed, the Rest Left High And dry!! History will repeat!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This isnt the fault of the player or coaches its the University that offers Who's making the offers

Do you honestly think the club coaches play no part in this process? So I have a question, how did Penn State become aware of this 8th grader? If you dont think these club owners and coaches are pushing these kids youre out of your mind. All so they can put this kids face all over their website and their social media so other parents start feeling the pressure and spend all their money on camps and showcases. Ive been there with my son and got caught up in it until I realized it was all nonsense. If your son is a good player and does well in the classroom, he will find his spot. Like one of the other posters said, it has a sleazy element to it thats hard to deny. Not the kids fault and Im sure hes a good player and his parents want the best for him so you cant blame the kid or the parents, the blame lies with college coach and the club coach. There is absolutely no justification or defense to recruit an 8th grader, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

3 years from now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

You do realize this is simply a VERBAL commitment right? Until he signs his NLI it isn't a done deal. Tambroni could be gone, Penn St. could be a miserable team, he could slip on a banana peel and tear his ACL. You get the picture. The only package he got was what he was told. You can absolutely bet your [lacrosse] that if he doesn't develop or his academics tank that Penn St or Tambroni can and will say sorry kid, good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

You do realize this is simply a VERBAL commitment right? Until he signs his NLI it isn't a done deal. Tambroni could be gone, Penn St. could be a miserable team, he could slip on a banana peel and tear his ACL. You get the picture. The only package he got was what he was told. You can absolutely bet your [lacrosse] that if he doesn't develop or his academics tank that Penn St or Tambroni can and will say sorry kid, good luck.

This is more than just a simple verbal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

You do realize this is simply a VERBAL commitment right? Until he signs his NLI it isn't a done deal. Tambroni could be gone, Penn St. could be a miserable team, he could slip on a banana peel and tear his ACL. You get the picture. The only package he got was what he was told. You can absolutely bet your [lacrosse] that if he doesn't develop or his academics tank that Penn St or Tambroni can and will say sorry kid, good luck.

This is more than just a simple verbal.

Then why call it a verbal??? YcD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to the Crush boy going to PSU! Well deserved

Yes he is age legit! Sure he got a nice package! PSU is one of the few schools that guarantees the scholarship amount for all for years, great job!

Do you mean four years?

This is true! Will be in writing when contract is signed.

You do realize this is simply a VERBAL commitment right? Until he signs his NLI it isn't a done deal. Tambroni could be gone, Penn St. could be a miserable team, he could slip on a banana peel and tear his ACL. You get the picture. The only package he got was what he was told. You can absolutely bet your [lacrosse] that if he doesn't develop or his academics tank that Penn St or Tambroni can and will say sorry kid, good luck.

This is more than just a simple verbal.

Signed in Blood or something? Previous poster was correct, until the NLI is signed it means nothing. If Tambroni leaves or gets fired the new coach can come in and void all verbals, it has happened before and can happen again. Im sure the kid is a good player and its not a knock on him but nothing is guaranteed when you verbal in 8th grade, its that simple.

It means Mongo at Recruiting Rundown will rank this kid high in his class for 4 years running and he will get invited to all the 'elite' garbage in the market just for the asking like 3d Jake Reed, the Rabil thing or the Nike Ride. The only valid reason I can think of for a parent wanting or pushing this is to secure a future status in lacrosse to get invited to events, keep getting publicized and hopefully also get re-recruited by colleges more selective than Penn State.

How long is the 'wait, let me think about it' moment when a kid who would otherwise go to Penn State could trade up for a Notre Dame, Duke, Ivy education? My over under is 3 seconds. Heck, by the time this kid is a high school upperclassman there's a chance Stanford and Cal have D1 teams.

I think I 'get it' that ER has the elements of cache where Casey Vock and Ty Xanders will follow your 13-14 year old sons around -- which is kind of creepy on many levels BTW -- and hype them out like fantasy lacrosse league characters. And, of course, it gets you a ticket to those exclusive and expensive to attend events. On any level it really something else?

Why are you hating so much....Just do what's right for your kid {what ever it is} and move on..Life is to short.

I think early recruiting is ruining the sport, and no 8th grader gets on the radar of a college coach without considerable marketing from club coaches/directors and events such as the one this January down in Florida.

I thought the only interesting thing about this was that it was Penn St, and granted as a Big 10 school, Penn St has quite a bit to offer, but it has been a fringe Top 20-25 team. As many have said he certainly would have had offers from other top schools, but who knows. It is a very fickle process at best, and as many know who are going through it, a lot of the time it doesn't make any sense so a lot of families hit the bid when offered because it can go away and soemtimes never present itself again.

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

The thinking is that not many early young kids commit to Penn State unless you have a family history at the school otherwise why should they make that call.

Madlax lost today!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

Caps lock is a pain , clearly miss the details.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Caps lock is a pain , clearly miss the details.

On the phone.... any other points that are valid you care to share?

I'm happy for the kid. He's a good example of playing age appropriately and working hard to get noticed. I'm sure he got a great deal and if it turns out he prefers an Ivy or a different school, I'm sure the opportunities will arise. To turn down a solid offer from a school you are interested in is just foolish. As everyone stated, it's a verbal and he can change his mind just as they can, but I'd gather that there will be much more interest in him over the next few years than he will be looking. He's in a win-win situation and will only get better. Good work ethic and talent don't just fade away. I suspect all the nay sayers wouldn't have turned down a good offer if the chance existed.

To me the best part is that he didn't reclass and never needed to. Talent and hard work pays off in the end! Great example for the younger kids!

WOW thin skinned and simple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

Sorry to disappoint you but my son is just fine and has quite a nice offer of his own so I know what a verbal is. Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit so Ill spell it out once again and Ill try not to use big words this time as not to confuse you further. Not once did I disparage the kid or the achievement, I simply pointed out that a verbal is just that, a verbal, nothing more. Ask the 2016 U Delaware commits if things can change, as this past summer the head coach fired his whole staff and voided all the 2016 verbals and went out and got all new kids. Things can change and often do, pretty simple concept actually, try and keep up.

I am sorry are you really an adult?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

Sorry to disappoint you but my son is just fine and has quite a nice offer of his own so I know what a verbal is. Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit so Ill spell it out once again and Ill try not to use big words this time as not to confuse you further. Not once did I disparage the kid or the achievement, I simply pointed out that a verbal is just that, a verbal, nothing more. Ask the 2016 U Delaware commits if things can change, as this past summer the head coach fired his whole staff and voided all the 2016 verbals and went out and got all new kids. Things can change and often do, pretty simple concept actually, try and keep up.

Sorry your kid lost his spot at Delaware. If a kid is good, another program will take him. My son had poachers sniffing around until he signed his NLI. We were never really concerned that he would not be playing at a top program because he continued to work hard after his commitment. If you are scared that a coach or program will decommmit you, you don't belong there in the first place!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

Sorry to disappoint you but my son is just fine and has quite a nice offer of his own so I know what a verbal is. Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit so Ill spell it out once again and Ill try not to use big words this time as not to confuse you further. Not once did I disparage the kid or the achievement, I simply pointed out that a verbal is just that, a verbal, nothing more. Ask the 2016 U Delaware commits if things can change, as this past summer the head coach fired his whole staff and voided all the 2016 verbals and went out and got all new kids. Things can change and often do, pretty simple concept actually, try and keep up.

Sorry your kid lost his spot at Delaware. If a kid is good, another program will take him. My son had poachers sniffing around until he signed his NLI. We were never really concerned that he would not be playing at a top program because he continued to work hard after his commitment. If you are scared that a coach or program will decommmit you, you don't belong there in the first place!

He didnt lose his spot, he is committed somewhere else. We were at a prospect day this past summer and I was talking to one of the dads and he told me his son was one of the kids that the Delaware coach snipped when he fired his whole staff. He basically voided every verbal from the 2016 class and started over was how it was explained to me. So in this case these kids had no reason to feel like their spot was in jeopardy, it kind of came out of nowhere which is the scary part. These kids were 4 months away from signing their NLIs and then boom, back out there looking for a spot. Brutal.

Hey coach ..I really want to play at Penn State can you get me the coaches number over there so I can call and talk to him and arrange a visit for myself. I want you to contact a few others as well. They will take my call because I am initiating it. Once I arrange my visit , my parents will be informed on when to take me to see these schools . That's how it went down and I'm sticking to it. End of discussion. I read all the NCAA rules and followed them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

Thank you for adding some sanity into this conversation. Curtis Zappala is an excellent example and Im sure there are hundreds more like him that we never hear about. Not to mention the kids that bail out once they get to school. The head coach of the school my son is verballed to told my son that this fall one of his highest rated recruits came into his office and told him D1 lacrosse wasnt for him and that he was leaving the team. Apparently this kid was a high school All American. He also said that happens at least one or twice every class. Point is, 4 years is a long time and so many things can happen between now and then and even once these kids get to school anything can and will happen.

All of the best 2020 teams are playing in Crab feast this year. It is probably the first time all the best teams will be in the same tournament. The only team that�s not is Team 91�.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

I guess someone forgot to tell the 99.9% of the kids who gave them, and are now playing at those schools. If verbals mean so little, then why do so many of you get your panties in such a twist over it? Jealousy perhsps?

Not true. A bunch of the best 2020 teams switched from the Crabfeast to MVP Rising Tourney.

Crabfest...I guess its not ALL the best teams then...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of the best 2020 teams are playing in Crab feast this year. It is probably the first time all the best teams will be in the same tournament. The only team that�s not is Team 91�.

I do see Team 91 on the Crab Feast attending teams list on the event website... (?)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

I believe the comment "it isn't a simple verbal" was meant as it is more than a commitment to one kid. It could be seen as an ingenious marketing move to say PSU went out and got the best, now we want the rest.

This verbal opens eyes and makes PSU an instant attraction. They aren't on the top fringe for lacrosse but remain to be a top academic school, this move makes then instantly appealing for the next generation of players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true. A bunch of the best 2020 teams switched from the Crabfeast to MVP Rising Tourney.

Which ones bailed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

I believe the comment "it isn't a simple verbal" was meant as it is more than a commitment to one kid. It could be seen as an ingenious marketing move to say PSU went out and got the best, now we want the rest.

This verbal opens eyes and makes PSU an instant attraction. They aren't on the top fringe for lacrosse but remain to be a top academic school, this move makes then instantly appealing for the next generation of players.

I think it actually cast a very bad light on PSU. No one and I mean no one is going to PSU because they had a kid in 8th grade who knows what he is majoring in college and what his masters will be in make the decision for them. No kids can relate to the kid who is expected to be better then Rabil.Kids will chose schools that best fit what they want to do in the future. A kid commits to Penn State because an eighth grader is giving a verbal and chances are the wind blows to the right and he switched schools. Happens all the time so your theory is all wrong ..Try again

as usual this is a completely false comment. All turtles but one were committed when the team decided to continue to train but no longer travel to away tournaments. the last player had several offers but was undecided and still has offers available.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Refering to a "Simple Verbal"

I understand the fact that nothing is binding. But this agreement is nothing but simple to the future of Penn State. A new coach isn't voided whatever arraignment that was made, that is as ridiculous as your signed in blood comment, instead a new coach will thank Tambroni and Toner. Penn State was on the minds of many 2017 2018 and 2019 I think they just moved up a bit higher on many 18/19 listings (except for some lefty attacks).

For the many that said he "would have had" many offers, how do you know he didn't and the family what was best - no one has to explain anything.

Again not a Simple Verbal.

So you can project what a new coach will do? You have no idea so you're the one coming off ridiculous. Your statement that this kids verbal is critical to the future of Penn State lacrosse is even more absurd. Penn State will be just fine with or without him. It is a great institution and many talented players will want to go there regardless if this kid is going there or not. At this point it is a verbal and only a verbal, which by its very definition is a "simple" agreement between the coach and the kid. I dont care how good the kid is, no one can predict the future, and between now and 2020, any manner of things can happen to change the course of events on either side.

Verbal is an offer, including the amount of money to be given. Some of these high caliber earelies get close to a full ride, my son being one of them whome comitted earmy aND everything worked out exactly as specified. The school will honor this commitment. You are just a jealous troll looking to minimize this amazing achievement. Stop being negative and worry about your own kid because you are not a part of the club!

You must not understand what a VERBAL offer is, despite you ranting that your son is one of them.

Its like saying you're "kinda pregnant". In other words, foolish.

They could offer him hookers and blow, free cars and tuition. It is still a verbal offer. Tambroni, new coach, the AD, the institution, etc. can rescind the offer. Same goes for the kid. The fact of the matter is things can change, as we've seen in the past. You can be the better than sliced bread and have a change of heart. Ever heard of Curtis Zappala? Exactly. It cuts both ways.

And if you're insinuating it is more the a verbal offer, I'm sure the NCAA would like to have a word or two.

I believe the comment "it isn't a simple verbal" was meant as it is more than a commitment to one kid. It could be seen as an ingenious marketing move to say PSU went out and got the best, now we want the rest.

This verbal opens eyes and makes PSU an instant attraction. They aren't on the top fringe for lacrosse but remain to be a top academic school, this move makes then instantly appealing for the next generation of players.

I think it actually cast a very bad light on PSU. No one and I mean no one is going to PSU because they had a kid in 8th grade who knows what he is majoring in college and what his masters will be in make the decision for them. No kids can relate to the kid who is expected to be better then Rabil.Kids will chose schools that best fit what they want to do in the future. A kid commits to Penn State because an eighth grader is giving a verbal and chances are the wind blows to the right and he switched schools. Happens all the time so your theory is all wrong ..Try again

That is wrong again! Penn state is in the position to offer big money to early commits. it is also a topped ranked institution in the top 50 above Maryland, Syracuse, Ohio State, U Mass, Denver , SBU, etc. They have had several recruits over the past few years who could have gone anywhere they wanted. Two of the top ranked kids in this years senior class have chosen that school because they offer so much. One of their top performers this year, Ahment, was also a top player on the number one HS team last year where the fee is 40k, Haverford. Kid chose Penn State. The MLL lacrosse MVP went there as well as the arguably best goalie in the sport who also plays for the Lizards. Yes, a kid could switch schools, or transfer, but the grass is not always greener! So stop with the hate for a school who is the top choice for kids who have their choice!

Never knew psu had that amazing talent...Did they under perform when there?

I've been out of the country for a few days. Did I miss anything? Seems quiet.

Ha

Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse, Maryland top academic institutions? Really? I believe the list you mean includes Virginia, Notre Dame, Duke, Hopkins, and any Ivy. The list of Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse and Maryland are good schools for great lacrosse players with just okay academic performances. These schools are the safety schools for kids that have the grades for Duke, Notre Dame and Brown. If you have a son who is a great lacrosse player good enough to play D1 and fantastic grades and test scores, use lacrosse to go to an amazing academic school. Don't waste your time with Penn State.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse, Maryland top academic institutions? Really? I believe the list you mean includes Virginia, Notre Dame, Duke, Hopkins, and any Ivy. The list of Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse and Maryland are good schools for great lacrosse players with just okay academic performances. These schools are the safety schools for kids that have the grades for Duke, Notre Dame and Brown. If you have a son who is a great lacrosse player good enough to play D1 and fantastic grades and test scores, use lacrosse to go to an amazing academic school. Don't waste your time with Penn State.

Now a Penn State education and degree are a waste of time ....lol this has gotten ridiculous all of the Jelousy has tainted all rational thinking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse, Maryland top academic institutions? Really? I believe the list you mean includes Virginia, Notre Dame, Duke, Hopkins, and any Ivy. The list of Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse and Maryland are good schools for great lacrosse players with just okay academic performances. These schools are the safety schools for kids that have the grades for Duke, Notre Dame and Brown. If you have a son who is a great lacrosse player good enough to play D1 and fantastic grades and test scores, use lacrosse to go to an amazing academic school. Don't waste your time with Penn State.

Now a Penn State education and degree are a waste of time ....lol this has gotten ridiculous all of the Jelousy has tainted all rational thinking.

The girl who cuts my hair has a cousin who lives down the street from a guy who works at Penn St. and he said that they have committed to improving their lacrosse team, so this all makes sense now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse, Maryland top academic institutions? Really? I believe the list you mean includes Virginia, Notre Dame, Duke, Hopkins, and any Ivy. The list of Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse and Maryland are good schools for great lacrosse players with just okay academic performances. These schools are the safety schools for kids that have the grades for Duke, Notre Dame and Brown. If you have a son who is a great lacrosse player good enough to play D1 and fantastic grades and test scores, use lacrosse to go to an amazing academic school. Don't waste your time with Penn State.

Now a Penn State education and degree are a waste of time ....lol this has gotten ridiculous all of the Jelousy has tainted all rational thinking.

The girl who cuts my hair has a cousin who lives down the street from a guy who works at Penn St. and he said that they have committed to improving their lacrosse team, so this all makes sense now.

I get my inside lacrosse scoop from the salon. If you go under dryer number 3 you get a secret message from Ty.

This is better than anything on TV.

Whoever is serving as the Tambroni/Team91 Crush press agent here has to realize a few facts.
1-Penn State is in the same position as every fully funded lacrosse program (somewhere around 30) in that they have 12.6 scholarships. No more.
2-Kids de-commit all the time.
3-Coaches change. Tambroni has been at PSU for 6 years. He lasted 10 at Cornell. Who knows how much longer he will be there.
In the end, who really cares? Wish the kid luck and move on...

If goes there others will to and Penn state will be better for it regardless

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is better than anything on TV.

Nah, its getting a little boring actually.

"to"....too

I agree; PSU is definitely in the same class as Cuse, MD and OSU...congrats. Good choice of comparables...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse, Maryland top academic institutions? Really? I believe the list you mean includes Virginia, Notre Dame, Duke, Hopkins, and any Ivy. The list of Penn State, Ohio State, Syracuse and Maryland are good schools for great lacrosse players with just okay academic performances. These schools are the safety schools for kids that have the grades for Duke, Notre Dame and Brown. If you have a son who is a great lacrosse player good enough to play D1 and fantastic grades and test scores, use lacrosse to go to an amazing academic school. Don't waste your time with Penn State.

Now a Penn State education and degree are a waste of time ....lol this has gotten ridiculous all of the Jelousy has tainted all rational thinking.

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

His Dad played football there...I'm assuming that was an influence...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

His Dad played football there...I'm assuming that was an influence...

Who's dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

Whats wrong with these schools?

Loyola is a good school...um Towson, not so much...

What 2020 LONG ISLAND teams are playing in the TOWN CUP in Mid-April?

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

Whats wrong with these schools?

absolutely nothing

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

Whats wrong with these schools?

According to one poster, If it's not an Ivy Duke or Hopkins, it's a waste of time!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

Whats wrong with these schools?

According to one poster, If it's not an Ivy Duke or Hopkins, it's a waste of time!

I went to a very average school. A D2 lax school, and I didn't play Lacrosse. At 52 I run very successful business. I hear the Ivy educated Dr. next door leave for work at 5am. I get up a little later, take my son to school, come back do some work and then hit the gym. Not sure if an unbelievable quality life and financial stability trump an Ivy education? But I wouldn't trade my life for the Doctor's next door I can tell you that. By the way, my wife is home with our children while Doctor's wife goes to work everyday, she's an Ivy Educated Dentist. The nanny raises their kids. Lastly, my college roommate, he lives in a $7million home in Connecticut. Point is, so little is dependent upon where you go to school. If you think only people who go to the Ivies are financially successful, you're absolutely insane.

We need to look at a bigger sample size then just you and your buddy. I'm thinking your statement about so little depends on what school you go to is a little off. why wouldn't everybody go to an average school and have fun and own a 7 million dollar home vs going to an ivy and killing themselves only to be a doctor and have to get up early.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We need to look at a bigger sample size then just you and your buddy. I'm thinking your statement about so little depends on what school you go to is a little off. why wouldn't everybody go to an average school and have fun and own a 7 million dollar home vs going to an ivy and killing themselves only to be a doctor and have to get up early.

My brother went to Cornell, I went to Adelphi. I make twice his salary, and live very comfortably. Hek, I can even afford travel lax for 3 kids!

The thing that's freaking everybody out is the fact that this is the best player in the country in his class and as such, he has all the leverage - a position we all wish we were in. We also know he doesn't have an academic track record yet - either good or bad. So, with that in mind, why not shoot for the moon academically? You know any of the top IVY's would love to have a talent like this. It would be one thing if he had a mediocre high school transcript full of B's and C's. If that were the case then PSU would be a great academic outcome. But, since he has no idea what his high school academic potential will be, why not go for the best possible academic outcome until proven that he can't get in? Otherwise, it just appears to everybody that he's settling before even giving himself a chance to leverage his God given athletic gifts at an IVY or similar caliber school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The poster is bashing great schools out of jealousy. Any kid getting a scholarship to a top 50 school has much to be proud of. For that matter, any school. Saying that if you don't go to an Ivy or a ND you are wasting your time has got to be the most ignorant comment yet. There are many factors that go into a college choice. Even as an eighth grader, you and your kid have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. A Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State are all great choices for an early commit who has decent grades, but maybe not high honors material. Some kids love the big sports school atmosphere, and don't want to be too far from home as well. They have the best chance to find a major that suits them and not be overwhelmed with academics that are tough to handle given the D1 practice requirements. If schools like PSU are a waste, I'd hate to hear what the poster says about the boys going to Stonybrook, Hoftstra, Delaware, UMass, Denver, those kids are doomed for failure! Total garbage, poster should be ashamed of himself!

Penn St. isn't a waste - a scholarship is a scholarship. That being said, nobody with any shred of intelligence will say Penn St. is a better academic school then the likes of many Ivy's and Duke, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc. If they do, they are a complete homer.

I don't know this kid, there could be a myriad of reasons why he chose Penn St. Maybe it's been his dream school, maybe he wants big time football, maybe his AI won't be high enough to get into the more academically rigorous schools. We won't know and honestly its the family's business, not ours.

The insinuation from the original poster was that this VERBAL commitment was something more; as if it some mythical extra special verbal vs. all the other verbals top kids give. It isn't. Either party can walk away before NLI signing. Period. End of story.

God help the kids who decide to verbal to Loyola or Towson, they must really be desperate!

Whats wrong with these schools?

According to one poster, If it's not an Ivy Duke or Hopkins, it's a waste of time!

I went to a very average school. A D2 lax school, and I didn't play Lacrosse. At 52 I run very successful business. I hear the Ivy educated Dr. next door leave for work at 5am. I get up a little later, take my son to school, come back do some work and then hit the gym. Not sure if an unbelievable quality life and financial stability trump an Ivy education? But I wouldn't trade my life for the Doctor's next door I can tell you that. By the way, my wife is home with our children while Doctor's wife goes to work everyday, she's an Ivy Educated Dentist. The nanny raises their kids. Lastly, my college roommate, he lives in a $7million home in Connecticut. Point is, so little is dependent upon where you go to school. If you think only people who go to the Ivies are financially successful, you're absolutely insane.

Great points. I think any school can be a good school if you take advantage of what the school has to offer and make the most of your opportunities. I think in todays climate it is more about where you go to grad school anyway. Every kid is different and each kid must choose the right fit for him academically, athletically and socially. Penn State is a great school with a great tradition and there are thousands of kids each year that would kill to get accepted. Good for this kid if he ends up there, but he does have a long way to go.

According to a schedule posted online, Bay Shore evidently lost to Islip 8-10 on Monday. How did the young man do in his first varsity game?

All the time you mutts spend worrying about this kid instead of your own is insane. Kid is going to Penn State for free in all likelihood. What if he didn't want Ivy Be happy it's one kid off the board and closer to,your son.

I would just say that the pleas about respecting choice and privacy, "why do you care?" etc. are pretty silly when you consider how this news was blasted out on Twitter and everywhere else. The family could have kept it under wraps as many early commits choose to do. They made a different choice which is their right. But when you take a public victory lap people are going to criticize and take shots....If you dont want the scrutiny keep it to yourself. All that said, the kid is a force and if anyone deserves to commit this early it is him. Best of luck to him!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The thing that's freaking everybody out is the fact that this is the best player in the country in his class and as such, he has all the leverage - a position we all wish we were in. We also know he doesn't have an academic track record yet - either good or bad. So, with that in mind, why not shoot for the moon academically? You know any of the top IVY's would love to have a talent like this. It would be one thing if he had a mediocre high school transcript full of B's and C's. If that were the case then PSU would be a great academic outcome. But, since he has no idea what his high school academic potential will be, why not go for the best possible academic outcome until proven that he can't get in? Otherwise, it just appears to everybody that he's settling before even giving himself a chance to leverage his God given athletic gifts at an IVY or similar caliber school.

Penn State does not take kids with BS and Cs. They don't have too. Unless of course you are an athelte. In 8th grade, you do know if you are a high academic achiever because the better 8th graders are taking Regents exams in math and science. If they are not running averages by this time in the year in the high to mid nineties, they are not likely Ivy, Duke or ND material. As for Penn State, you should be in the A- range. After all, it is a top 50 school, and is still quite competitive to get into.

50.3% acceptance rate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would just say that the pleas about respecting choice and privacy, "why do you care?" etc. are pretty silly when you consider how this news was blasted out on Twitter and everywhere else. The family could have kept it under wraps as many early commits choose to do. They made a different choice which is their right. But when you take a public victory lap people are going to criticize and take shots....If you dont want the scrutiny keep it to yourself. All that said, the kid is a force and if anyone deserves to commit this early it is him. Best of luck to him!

I heard that he puts Jim Brown to shame. He is being considered a combination of MJ and Lebron and a little Kobe as well as far as talent goes. God bless his athletic ability and the people of Penn Stae to be so lucky and fortunate to have a once in a lifetime kid grace them with his presence. I'm so jealous I couldn't be him. I hope everyone in the world know about his accomplishments so far

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

50.3% acceptance rate

True, however many of those accepted are deferred to other campuses. They turn away about 10,000 kids every year. Saying what you want, but the campus is beautiful, sports facilities amazing, alumni network one of the best, tuition with fees about 40k, not 60+k. They also are ranked higher than many of the other top 20 lax schools like Ohio State, Maryland, Loyola, Hoftstra,SB, Denver, Syracuse, UMass, Delaware, Towson. Not that there is anything wrong with those schools, I believe all of them have much to offer.
Not sure what your problem is? I would be thrilled if my son was offered a scholarship to any of them. There is a good fit for everyone. And there is always going to be someone with a negative comment, sad!

caught a sports segment on News 12 that showed him and thought I read or heard somewhere there may be doing a segment on early recruiting anyone know of that.

Lots of discussion about why he should be looking at a better academic institution. Here's what puzzles me: why not go to a better LACROSSE program? I think Penn State is an outstanding university in many regards. But they aren't an outstanding lacrosse program. I'm just surprised he didn't select a program that is likely, based on recent performance and current trending, to play for a national championship.

Maybe the parents know what's best for their child. The school could be a perfect academic fit for him. Now one knows the real deal or what the kids getting other than the school and parents. All this speculation on here is just BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of discussion about why he should be looking at a better academic institution. Here's what puzzles me: why not go to a better LACROSSE program? I think Penn State is an outstanding university in many regards. But they aren't an outstanding lacrosse program. I'm just surprised he didn't select a program that is likely, based on recent performance and current trending, to play for a national championship.

Yeah, like UNC or Virginia.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of discussion about why he should be looking at a better academic institution. Here's what puzzles me: why not go to a better LACROSSE program? I think Penn State is an outstanding university in many regards. But they aren't an outstanding lacrosse program. I'm just surprised he didn't select a program that is likely, based on recent performance and current trending, to play for a national championship.

Yeah, like UNC or Virginia.

Umm because look at the parity for this year and I believe it will only get better. Speaks volumes for a kid who wants to make his own mark.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of discussion about why he should be looking at a better academic institution. Here's what puzzles me: why not go to a better LACROSSE program? I think Penn State is an outstanding university in many regards. But they aren't an outstanding lacrosse program. I'm just surprised he didn't select a program that is likely, based on recent performance and current trending, to play for a national championship.

Yeah, like UNC or Virginia.

Those two programs are struggling, VA coach won't be around much longer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Was at Bay Shore West Islip scrimmage today (West Islip parent)the kid is for real, I've watched him play over the years at different events town and travel and he only gets better, unfortunately for now only glaring bright spot on a weak Bay Shore team, the kid had 3 or 4 goals and a few assists, size and speed of a hs senior

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Was at Bay Shore West Islip scrimmage today (West Islip parent)the kid is for real, I've watched him play over the years at different events town and travel and he only gets better, unfortunately for now only glaring bright spot on a weak Bay Shore team, the kid had 3 or 4 goals and a few assists, size and speed of a hs senior

.

I didn't know there was a size for a HS senior... So what was the score of the scrimmage. I assume he scored his goals early and not when the reserves were in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Was at Bay Shore West Islip scrimmage today (West Islip parent)the kid is for real, I've watched him play over the years at different events town and travel and he only gets better, unfortunately for now only glaring bright spot on a weak Bay Shore team, the kid had 3 or 4 goals and a few assists, size and speed of a hs senior

.

I didn't know there was a size for a HS senior... So what was the score of the scrimmage. I assume he scored his goals early and not when the reserves were in

Now, Now there is that green monster showing its face again they were actually scored in the first couple quarters .lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Was at Bay Shore West Islip scrimmage today (West Islip parent)the kid is for real, I've watched him play over the years at different events town and travel and he only gets better, unfortunately for now only glaring bright spot on a weak Bay Shore team, the kid had 3 or 4 goals and a few assists, size and speed of a hs senior

You're either his dad or his press agent. Once the real games start we'll see. Thanks for the update!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

Not a NL according to section x1. The next several games don't even feature real lacrosse players, so let's hold off on counting stats till you play a somewhat competitive team. Then we can assess the talent, or lack of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Let's put down 4 programs you obnoxious, stuck up a-holes. I can't speak for Brentwood or Copaigue but North Babylon and William Floyd have some very good players on their teams. I coached against both those teams over the summer and they both had some talented kids and quite a few very good athletes. There are talented kids all over the island. Not just at the traditional high schools. Get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Was at Bay Shore West Islip scrimmage today (West Islip parent)the kid is for real, I've watched him play over the years at different events town and travel and he only gets better, unfortunately for now only glaring bright spot on a weak Bay Shore team, the kid had 3 or 4 goals and a few assists, size and speed of a hs senior

How was that scrimmage? What was the final score?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Let's put down 4 programs you obnoxious, stuck up a-holes. I can't speak for Brentwood or Copaigue but North Babylon and William Floyd have some very good players on their teams. I coached against both those teams over the summer and they both had some talented kids and quite a few very good athletes. There are talented kids all over the island. Not just at the traditional high schools. Get over yourselves.

I apologize ..so they should be able to roll over BS , all they have to do is put one of their half way talented kids on him or one of their top players.. Good luck I can't wait to see the final score

Hey Jealous Dbag, the Islip GAME was a GAME, not a scrimmage. Listed on LAXPOWER and reported on in Newsday. I'm not his press agent, from Bayshore or 91... I do have a '20 kid though. This kid is good and he will continue to be big, very big; always has been--there is no "catching up". He will continue to be talented and bigger. Deal with it... That being said, no idea about the family or the need to commit and announce at this point, but none of my business either...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

Not a NL according to section x1. The next several games don't even feature real lacrosse players, so let's hold off on counting stats till you play a somewhat competitive team. Then we can assess the talent, or lack of.

Go to the Sect XI site go to "Student and fans" header and then click "standings" from the list - click Boys lacrosse.

This is a useful tool going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Jealous Dbag, the Islip GAME was a GAME, not a scrimmage. Listed on LAXPOWER and reported on in Newsday. I'm not his press agent, from Bayshore or 91... I do have a '20 kid though. This kid is good and he will continue to be big, very big; always has been--there is no "catching up". He will continue to be talented and bigger. Deal with it... That being said, no idea about the family or the need to commit and announce at this point, but none of my business either...

Agreed, he also has a great mentor upper classman who will help take any pressure off of him. If you don't see stats doesn't mean his play wasn't impactful. We all know good even great play doesn't show on the stat sheet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Over the past 10 years Floyd has kids who went on to play at Hopkins, Notre Dame, Albany, Stony Brook and Sacred Heart off the top of my head. They also had a bunch of kids be major contributors at DII schools like NY Tech, Post and Dowling. They are not a major program but they have kids who can play. Your comment is stupid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Over the past 10 years Floyd has kids who went on to play at Hopkins, Notre Dame, Albany, Stony Brook and Sacred Heart off the top of my head. They also had a bunch of kids be major contributors at DII schools like NY Tech, Post and Dowling. They are not a major program but they have kids who can play. Your comment is stupid.

I don't think the comment was downplaying or pin pointing any particular kids on those teams, rather those teams as a whole. Please look at the records of the schools mentioned they have not had much success in the way of wins and loses. The last few years they had been a part of the bottom 6-8 schools in the league. Last few years many of the top players (from Quot WM Smiths HHHs WI) had their opportunity against these teams which added to their stats. This year interestingly many top teams do not get that chance WM SE and Quot don't play any of them.

History proves playing against these teams you should come away with points. Maybe 18 points per these games. But as they say that is why you play the games. Any team can have a surprising season just as any team can have a disappointing one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He scored two goals. Impressive. He will be under the microscope for a while now.

Easy there! It was a scrimmage, not the same as a game. First one today, so we can start citing stats then.

Actually today is a scrimmage as well. First game is 3/29 vs a weak NB.

Sorry but the Islip game was a non league game not scrimmage, it counts for stats and it counts for w/l's those counting. No worries North Babylon Brentwood Copaigue William Flyodd are coming up.

I didn't know those schools still had lacrosse. Does BS play any good teams all year?

Over the past 10 years Floyd has kids who went on to play at Hopkins, Notre Dame, Albany, Stony Brook and Sacred Heart off the top of my head. They also had a bunch of kids be major contributors at DII schools like NY Tech, Post and Dowling. They are not a major program but they have kids who can play. Your comment is stupid.

This goes to show you don't have to be a part of a big program to play on the next level, you just need to be able to play. At the same time you cant dispute the better teams consistently do well and avg 10+ goals against you.

Looney's see you are now in the NSCLA is your team playing in Hershey june 18-19

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of discussion about why he should be looking at a better academic institution. Here's what puzzles me: why not go to a better LACROSSE program? I think Penn State is an outstanding university in many regards. But they aren't an outstanding lacrosse program. I'm just surprised he didn't select a program that is likely, based on recent performance and current trending, to play for a national championship.

Better lacrosse program....like where? Virginia, hopkins? have the best kids and fail every year. Maybe he wants to go put Penn State in the Finals. And Penn State is a very selective school. At least main campus is. I went to a very high academic patriot league school and was waitlisted at Penn State.

3 of Newsdays top 12 Varsity players to watch this spring are going to Penn State. I'm sure they could have went anywhere they wanted!

Um, Hopkins was in the Final Four last year. Penn State has made the NCAA tournament a grand total of ONE time in the past 10 years, and only 3 times EVER.

I don't begrudge the kid at all for blazing his own path. I'm just saying it's surprising.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Hopkins was in the Final Four last year. Penn State has made the NCAA tournament a grand total of ONE time in the past 10 years, and only 3 times EVER.

I don't begrudge the kid at all for blazing his own path. I'm just saying it's surprising.

Penn State just beat Denver, #1 team, maybe the kids commitment will continue to bring them good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Hopkins was in the Final Four last year. Penn State has made the NCAA tournament a grand total of ONE time in the past 10 years, and only 3 times EVER.

I don't begrudge the kid at all for blazing his own path. I'm just saying it's surprising.

Penn State just beat Denver, #1 team, maybe the kids commitment will continue to bring them good luck!

Penn State over Denver 15-10, Denver current national champs, undefeated number #1 ranked team, point being in the current enviornment any given day .......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Um, Hopkins was in the Final Four last year. Penn State has made the NCAA tournament a grand total of ONE time in the past 10 years, and only 3 times EVER.

I don't begrudge the kid at all for blazing his own path. I'm just saying it's surprising.

Penn State just beat Denver, #1 team, maybe the kids commitment will continue to bring them good luck!

Penn State over Denver 15-10, Denver current national champs, undefeated number #1 ranked team, point being in the current enviornment any given day .......

Good Newsday high school sports piece on sunday 03/27 high lighting one of, if not the top fogo men in the country , and where is he heading to college , Penn State. Maybe these long Island elite recruits and the school actually have a plan.

Challenge to all LI 2020 teams. Madlax 2020 is not playing in a league this year. Ample opportunities for your teams to come down to beautiful DC and play one of the best 2020 teams in the nation.

Any of you tough enough to take the challenge?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Challenge to all LI 2020 teams. Madlax 2020 is not playing in a league this year. Ample opportunities for your teams to come down to beautiful DC and play one of the best 2020 teams in the nation.

Any of you tough enough to take the challenge?

One of the best teams that's a good joke. If they're so good why aren't they playing in hoco

Would this be the MadLax team that lost 10-0 to Looney's in November, just trying to level set...

Why would anyone travel 5 hours to play a mediocre at best team when they have much better competition in LI, NJ and Philly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why would anyone travel 5 hours to play a mediocre at best team when they have much better competition in LI, NJ and Philly.

Why don't you drive 5 hours north up to NY and I'm sure many teams would love to play you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would this be the MadLax team that lost 10-0 to Looney's in November, just trying to level set...

They also lost at Hopkins tournament a couple of weeks ago. They are a middle of the road team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would this be the MadLax team that lost 10-0 to Looney's in November, just trying to level set...

They also lost at Hopkins tournament a couple of weeks ago. They are a middle of the road team.

We were missing a ton of guys. We've also added a bunch of studs.

You guys are tough on the Internet but not so tough on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would this be the MadLax team that lost 10-0 to Looney's in November, just trying to level set...

They also lost at Hopkins tournament a couple of weeks ago. They are a middle of the road team.

We were missing a ton of guys. We've also added a bunch of studs.

You guys are tough on the Internet but not so tough on the field.

Always an excuse, don't have to be tough on the Internet or the field because 2020 Madhatters are just terrible. Any wimpy squad can whip them!

Ok, should your club coach really brag about your stats when you play a very lower level team. Why don't we wait to brag till you reach a contender. Otherwise you look like a foolish Stat seeker. Easy there, borderline embarrassment to the kid and your brand. We all know the kid has talent, but this is not necessary, and not a meaningful stat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, should your club coach really brag about your stats when you play a very lower level team. Why don't we wait to brag till you reach a contender. Otherwise you look like a foolish Stat seeker. Easy there, borderline embarrassment to the kid and your brand. We all know the kid has talent, but this is not necessary, and not a meaningful stat.

Kid is definetely NOT a "Stat Seeker" just playing the game, enough already . In these days of all the constant whining on here about reclass and hold backs kid still playing with kids 3,4, and 5 yrs older. If you need to Make reference to the coach not the kid .

Running up the score Against a sub par team is generally frowned upon. Most teams pull starters and play 3rd lines when beating a team by 10+ goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, should your club coach really brag about your stats when you play a very lower level team. Why don't we wait to brag till you reach a contender. Otherwise you look like a foolish Stat seeker. Easy there, borderline embarrassment to the kid and your brand. We all know the kid has talent, but this is not necessary, and not a meaningful stat.

Kid is definetely NOT a "Stat Seeker" just playing the game, enough already . In these days of all the constant whining on here about reclass and hold backs kid still playing with kids 3,4, and 5 yrs older. If you need to Make reference to the coach not the kid .

Question.Kids can commit verbally and not announc it correct?

Kids can commit and not announce it. Some schools such as Duke ND and some Ivy League schools toward end of freshman year have agreements with kids but do not make an official commitment til end of freshman year grades come in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids can commit and not announce it. Some schools such as Duke ND and some Ivy League schools toward end of freshman year have agreements with kids but do not make an official commitment til end of freshman year grades come in.

Not true at all. They will all commit a kid in the 9th grade. They try to keep it hush hush but they will commit their top prospects. If they are telling you they have to wait then you are not at the top of their list. Coaches all have a variety of thing they tell recruits to keep them on the line but the reality is that if you are at the top of the list they will pull the trigger quickly.

Impressive showing for the 8th grade varsity kid. Don't care who they are playing--for a 13/14 yr old kid to compete at varsity level is commendable. stop hating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Running up the score Against a sub par team is generally frowned upon. Most teams pull starters and play 3rd lines when beating a team by 10+ goals.

Team doesn't have a third line. They carry maybe 20 kids. Stop. You match goal for goal after a 10 point spread

If Madlax wants to play some real teams maybe they should travel to Long Island.
If Madlax wants to talk they should walk the walk. I've never seen them at any Long Island tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Madlax wants to play some real teams maybe they should travel to Long Island.
If Madlax wants to talk they should walk the walk. I've never seen them at any Long Island tournaments.

Why would we travel up there? The best events are here. The best 2020 teams are here too (Madlax, Crabs and Looneys).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Madlax wants to play some real teams maybe they should travel to Long Island.
If Madlax wants to talk they should walk the walk. I've never seen them at any Long Island tournaments.

Why would we travel up there? The best events are here. The best 2020 teams are here too (Madlax, Crabs and Looneys).

Stop saying madlax 2020 is a top club because they are no where near that. They're probably the the 20th ranked club in the 2020 age group that's why they didn't get invited to play in the elite division of hoco and they had to try and play in.

Madlax ouch

Keep on laughing. Madlax's Spring playday was well run, but not LI teams came down. Guess they were too scared to put up or shut up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep on laughing. Madlax's Spring playday was well run, but not LI teams came down. Guess they were too scared to put up or shut up.

Well run because of sparse attendance. "what if you had a party and no one came" Is it still a party?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep on laughing. Madlax's Spring playday was well run, but not LI teams came down. Guess they were too scared to put up or shut up.

Ohhhh. Yes. We were veerrry scared.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Madlax wants to play some real teams maybe they should travel to Long Island.
If Madlax wants to talk they should walk the walk. I've never seen them at any Long Island tournaments.

Why would we travel up there? The best events are here. The best 2020 teams are here too (Madlax, Crabs and Looneys).

Stop saying madlax 2020 is a top club because they are no where near that. They're probably the the 20th ranked club in the 2020 age group that's why they didn't get invited to play in the elite division of hoco and they had to try and play in.

Madlax coming to Long Island for Adrenaline tournament this summer.

We were petrified. The playday at the ill School put Madlax's playday to shame.

Madlax almost beat Next Level and Hawks on the same day. Not many teams can say that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We were petrified. The playday at the ill School put Madlax's playday to shame.

Who is we?

"Almost" LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep on laughing. Madlax's Spring playday was well run, but not LI teams came down. Guess they were too scared to put up or shut up.

Too busy playing in same event as Crabs and 91 MD. Not your AA club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We were petrified. The playday at the ill School put Madlax's playday to shame.

Who is we?

So you let that Fat RM come up there with his 2019/2020 team and pound his fat chest. I know people hear about the reclass thing but when you see it??!! Ridiculous. How do these parents not cringe when they send their 6-2 195lb High Schooler out to play against normal age kids? If your kid is big for a Freshman, no reason to have him playing 8th grade. joke. RM a joke. I saw a post about just not playing them at tourneys. that would be great.

Just heard that Madlax 2020 used 2019 players this past weekend to shore up their roster. Guess it's ok to cheat as long as it's your own tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Almost" LOL

HAHA...ALMOST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We were petrified. The playday at the ill School put Madlax's playday to shame.

Who is we?

You ....and the little mouse in your pocket

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just heard that Madlax 2020 used 2019 players this past weekend to shore up their roster. Guess it's ok to cheat as long as it's your own tournament.

This is totally false. The roster has remained the same since tryouts, and nobody, especially not a 2019, was added for this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just heard that Madlax 2020 used 2019 players this past weekend to shore up their roster. Guess it's ok to cheat as long as it's your own tournament.

This is totally false. The roster has remained the same since tryouts, and nobody, especially not a 2019, was added for this past weekend.

Uh oh. Madlax is doing crisis control after being caught. Kind of like when Sons was also caught using older players.u

Mad lax lolol

Probably why they are notin the hoco league. Playing ala carte games means they don't have to show rosters. Allows them to bring down 2019s to help out.

Hoco 2020 looks weak without Madlax. Gives another team a chance to make the playoffs, though.

Both Forums-
BOYS 2020 and the Maryland 2020 are being run over by Madlax and holdback conversations..... its amazing

2020s are 8th graders, and in the DMV 8th grade is the best two years ever.

Well, we are practicing and getting better. Being part of HoCo is overrated. Madlax 2020 will be ready to work you guys in the summer.

Besides Crush and Terps, Who else will be competitive on Long Island this spring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Besides Crush and Terps, Who else will be competitive on Long Island this spring?

Legacy and possibly For the love of the game

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

There is more than one that is older and has been in middle school for "extra time" and several were on the 2019 roster in prior years. That is also why they are suddenly better this year over the past two years. Some "old" blood brought in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

There is more than one that is older and has been in middle school for "extra time" and several were on the 2019 roster in prior years. That is also why they are suddenly better this year over the past two years. Some "old" blood brought in.

I do have to give them credit for being the only organization to own up to having older kids and providing birthdates. They are not hiding behind anything. You know before you play them what you are up against. This should serve as an example to other teams, but likely will not.

I also credit them for providing names and birthdays. But that being said, only one third of the roster would be in 8th grade in NY.

For the Atlantic Youth Hockey League, which is the highest league kids can play in from Metro NY down to MD (by kids I mean 8-12 more or less), they have the names with month and year of birth for all players on all teams on their central website. Of course, hockey is strictly calendar year age based. The use of only month and year instead of actual birthday mitigates the disclosure complaints that some parents have. For instance, it can be published that a kid is born 6/2002 without disclosing the particular date.

Also, don't kid yourself, recruiting has a lot to do with all of that info being published. It gets it out there to all coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

My older son is a 99 and is on a 2017. Having a 00 on a 2020 makes no sense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

My older son is a 99 and is on a 2017. Having a 00 on a 2020 makes no sense

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs handbook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I also credit them for providing names and birthdays. But that being said, only one third of the roster would be in 8th grade in NY.

For the Atlantic Youth Hockey League, which is the highest league kids can play in from Metro NY down to MD (by kids I mean 8-12 more or less), they have the names with month and year of birth for all players on all teams on their central website. Of course, hockey is strictly calendar year age based. The use of only month and year instead of actual birthday mitigates the disclosure complaints that some parents have. For instance, it can be published that a kid is born 6/2002 without disclosing the particular date.

Also, don't kid yourself, recruiting has a lot to do with all of that info being published. It gets it out there to all coaches.

Frankly providing the entire date is an identity theft no, no. And kids get their ID hijacked, and they often don't know it. What a mess it creates. If I were a parent, I would be pissed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I also credit them for providing names and birthdays. But that being said, only one third of the roster would be in 8th grade in NY.

For the Atlantic Youth Hockey League, which is the highest league kids can play in from Metro NY down to MD (by kids I mean 8-12 more or less), they have the names with month and year of birth for all players on all teams on their central website. Of course, hockey is strictly calendar year age based. The use of only month and year instead of actual birthday mitigates the disclosure complaints that some parents have. For instance, it can be published that a kid is born 6/2002 without disclosing the particular date.

Also, don't kid yourself, recruiting has a lot to do with all of that info being published. It gets it out there to all coaches.

Frankly providing the entire date is an identity theft no, no. And kids get their ID hijacked, and they often don't know it. What a mess it creates. If I were a parent, I would be pissed.

You need a lot more than a name and dob to steal someone's identity. DOBs are not secret anyway. Half of my kid's school and parents know my kids DOB, as well as every coach he has had for every sport he has played, plus all teachers and school personal. Not to mention anyone who snoops around Facebook and social media. But nonetheless, if I were Sons, I would post month and year only like hockey does it. Still serves the purpose of identifying how old the kid is to recruiters and interested parties for transparency purposes. No material difference between 6/2002 and 6/15/2002.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I also credit them for providing names and birthdays. But that being said, only one third of the roster would be in 8th grade in NY.

For the Atlantic Youth Hockey League, which is the highest league kids can play in from Metro NY down to MD (by kids I mean 8-12 more or less), they have the names with month and year of birth for all players on all teams on their central website. Of course, hockey is strictly calendar year age based. The use of only month and year instead of actual birthday mitigates the disclosure complaints that some parents have. For instance, it can be published that a kid is born 6/2002 without disclosing the particular date.

Also, don't kid yourself, recruiting has a lot to do with all of that info being published. It gets it out there to all coaches.

Frankly providing the entire date is an identity theft no, no. And kids get their ID hijacked, and they often don't know it. What a mess it creates. If I were a parent, I would be pissed.

You need a lot more than a name and dob to steal someone's identity. DOBs are not secret anyway. Half of my kid's school and parents know my kids DOB, as well as every coach he has had for every sport he has played, plus all teachers and school personal. Not to mention anyone who snoops around Facebook and social media. But nonetheless, if I were Sons, I would post month and year only like hockey does it. Still serves the purpose of identifying how old the kid is to recruiters and interested parties for transparency purposes. No material difference between 6/2002 and 6/15/2002.

Exactly, month and year will more than suffice. Let's see if any other organizations have the courage to do the same.

What 2020 travel teams are attending the Spring Lax Jam on 4/30?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 2020 travel teams are attending the Spring Lax Jam on 4/30?

Team Smithtown 7th Grade
Islip lax boyz
Rocky Point
Somers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a question. On the rising sons site they have put up all the info for their 2020 team. Which if I were the parents would not be too keen because there is a lot of info there. But, I find it interesting that they have a 2000 on their roster. My son is an 03 and playing 2021 so does that make him two years or three older. HMMM.

My older son is a 99 and is on a 2017. Having a 00 on a 2020 makes no sense

You clearly do not understand MD, PA and Mass math.

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

I didn't look at the dates and was not aware they were playing older kids. If the kids are not on age 8th graders they shouldn't be playing. Having said that - the Crabs wouldn't dare post their birthdates because it would painfully obvious that there 2020 team is full of 19s and 18s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Must be in every team in MD's handbook because they almost all have them. And those that don't have any can't get the kids to play for them, not because they don't allow them.

No the point is actually moot not mute. Crabs parent I assume

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Problem is too many people "move on" and too many people turn their back and that is how we go to what youth lacrosse is today - those with connections and money permitted to cheat every chance they get and those who are supposed to be protecting youth pretending it is not happening - nice values to teach all of these kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Must be in every team in MD's handbook because they almost all have them. And those that don't have any can't get the kids to play for them, not because they don't allow them.

And so do 91, Taz, Express, etc.........pot stop calling kettle black

Someone wrote that Looney's 2020 beat Madlax 2020 16-2. Not sure if that's true or not because I thought Madlax wasn't playing in HoCo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

But they still have older kids playing younger kids-why kudos? Just because they admit they are taking advantage of younger kids. Bizarre standards you have.

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Must be in every team in MD's handbook because they almost all have them. And those that don't have any can't get the kids to play for them, not because they don't allow them.

And so do 91, Taz, Express, etc.........pot stop calling kettle black

When topic of holdbacks come up, just deflect and say everyone does it - Crabs Handbook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone wrote that Looney's 2020 beat Madlax 2020 16-2. Not sure if that's true or not because I thought Madlax wasn't playing in HoCo.

It was a scrimmmage. Madlax isn't in HOCO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Name one team that doesn't? You need to accept it and move on, because the point is mute.

Is it ethical? Well, it's not illegal - Crabs Handbook

Must be in every team in MD's handbook because they almost all have them. And those that don't have any can't get the kids to play for them, not because they don't allow them.

And so do 91, Taz, Express, etc.........pot stop calling kettle black

When topic of holdbacks come up, just deflect and say everyone does it - Crabs Handbook

Does your string tickle your leg when you run?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone wrote that Looney's 2020 beat Madlax 2020 16-2. Not sure if that's true or not because I thought Madlax wasn't playing in HoCo.

It was a scrimmmage. Madlax isn't in HOCO

It was a play day at College Park before the Maryland/Ohio State game.
Now you see why Madlax 2020 isn't in the HOCO 2020 elite division. It could have been higher, Looney's stared playing their 3rd midfield and backup attack/poles.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kudos to Sons for posting birthdates. At least they aren't playing games like Crabs.

The Sons must have realized it was a dumb idea to put that personal info on a blpublic site. Now the only thing you can see on their roster is name

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Someone wrote that Looney's 2020 beat Madlax 2020 16-2. Not sure if that's true or not because I thought Madlax wasn't playing in HoCo.

It was a scrimmmage. Madlax isn't in HOCO

It was a play day at College Park before the Maryland/Ohio State game.
Now you see why Madlax 2020 isn't in the HOCO 2020 elite division. It could have been higher, Looney's stared playing their 3rd midfield and backup attack/poles.

Sadlax needs to try field hockey instead.

So madlax is on the 2020 main, the 2020 MD and they have their own thread....
Can you guys move on please...

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

"Got a sweet deal"? Are you 12? Plus, I'm sure his parents probably don't appreciate you publicizing the fact that he was given some sort of scholarship or host family. He is a kid after all.

I would rather hear "Viper dad" again then listen to Madlax on 3 trends

speaking of viper what clubs did the 2020 team end up at ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

"Got a sweet deal"? Are you 12? Plus, I'm sure his parents probably don't appreciate you publicizing the fact that he was given some sort of scholarship or host family. He is a kid after all.

Hey [lacrosse], it is common knowledge. Shows you have no idea what goes on in youth lacrosse outside of your little world.
Seems like you are just jealous of what he has achieved. His parents are very proud and have no problem with him getting the deserved publicity. Now go craw back into your hole.

That's funny about viper dads. I guess it trickled on down from their varsity teams with loud mouth dads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

"Got a sweet deal"? Are you 12? Plus, I'm sure his parents probably don't appreciate you publicizing the fact that he was given some sort of scholarship or host family. He is a kid after all.

Hey [lacrosse], it is common knowledge. Shows you have no idea what goes on in youth lacrosse outside of your little world.
Seems like you are just jealous of what he has achieved. His parents are very proud and have no problem with him getting the deserved publicity. Now go craw back into your hole.

Not surprising that a family that flies their little boy up to MD to play in a spring league game is good with bragging about his accomplishments.

And Looneys does have multiple holdbacks [lacrosse]. As you said, it's common knowledge.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

speaking of viper what clubs did the 2020 team end up at ?

They went to different clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

"Got a sweet deal"? Are you 12? Plus, I'm sure his parents probably don't appreciate you publicizing the fact that he was given some sort of scholarship or host family. He is a kid after all.

Hey [lacrosse], it is common knowledge. Shows you have no idea what goes on in youth lacrosse outside of your little world.
Seems like you are just jealous of what he has achieved. His parents are very proud and have no problem with him getting the deserved publicity. Now go craw back into your hole.

Not surprising that a family that flies their little boy up to MD to play in a spring league game is good with bragging about his accomplishments.

And Looneys does have multiple holdbacks [lacrosse]. As you said, it's common knowledge.

What's the matter peckerbreath, jealous that your little boy hasn't had any accomplishments and he is just another weak player on a weak team? Why shouldn't the parents be proud of what their son has done, it is something to be proud of. yep, Looney's has a few holdbacks, a few and no where hear Crabs or other clubs in the area, including the very weak Madlax. Now go out back and practice with your son, maybe he will improve with you leading, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would rather hear "Viper dad" again then listen to Madlax on 3 trends

Viper would beat Madlax

The only reason Looney's doesn't have mor holdbacks is because they can't get more to play for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOL. Madlax 2020 lost a scrimmage against Looney's 2020 only because Looney's uses multiple holdbacks. I also spotted the FL FOGO out there too.

Really? Fly a kid up from FL just to play in one scrimmage? LOL.

Give me a break, Madlax 2020 is terrible and would have a hard time in the HOCO 2020 B division.
Looney's does not have multiple holdbacks and it is none of your business if the Fl. kid flew up to play. He also played the day before. By the way, that Fl. FOGO will be playing the Md. MIAA this fall, got a sweet deal from McDonogh.
So just keep on laughing, you are the one who looks foolish.

"Got a sweet deal"? Are you 12? Plus, I'm sure his parents probably don't appreciate you publicizing the fact that he was given some sort of scholarship or host family. He is a kid after all.

Hey [lacrosse], it is common knowledge. Shows you have no idea what goes on in youth lacrosse outside of your little world.
Seems like you are just jealous of what he has achieved. His parents are very proud and have no problem with him getting the deserved publicity. Now go craw back into your hole.

Not surprising that a family that flies their little boy up to MD to play in a spring league game is good with bragging about his accomplishments.

And Looneys does have multiple holdbacks [lacrosse]. As you said, it's common knowledge.

What's the matter peckerbreath, jealous that your little boy hasn't had any accomplishments and he is just another weak player on a weak team? Why shouldn't the parents be proud of what their son has done, it is something to be proud of. yep, Looney's has a few holdbacks, a few and no where hear Crabs or other clubs in the area, including the very weak Madlax. Now go out back and practice with your son, maybe he will improve with you leading, but I doubt it.

Wow. You are doing a very good job of living up to the high standard of parents Looneys has set for themselves. A quality organization from top to bottom. Maybe dropping their 2017 and 2018 teams was the best thing that could have happened to those kids.

Wow. You are doing a very good job of living up to the high standard of parents Looneys has set for themselves. A quality organization from top to bottom. Maybe dropping their 2017 and 2018 teams was the best thing that could have happened to those kids. [/quote]

Sorry bunk, I'm from NY and know nothing about Looney's dropping teams. I know about this FOGO because he is that good he is known and respected in the youth lacrosse world. I know of Looney's, our NY teams have played them several times, a class organization with extremely good players. We also know about Crabs and their way of doing business as well as Madlax.
But it is people like you, who have no skin in this that have to mouth off and wind up talking out of your butt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only reason Looney's doesn't have mor holdbacks is because they can't get more to play for them.

And how would you know this???

who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

It will be TERPS VS TAZ in the finals

No checking loll what a joke of a tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

Is this the tournament that the Crabs dropped out of this week?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

It will be TERPS VS TAZ in the finals

TAZ. Hahahaha

Now we know why Looney's 2020 is in HoCo and Madlax 2020 is not. They have holdbacks, including one that is flown in from FL.

HoCo is a fraud of a league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

Is this the tournament that the Crabs dropped out of this week?

Only Crabs 2021 was scheduled to go. Yes they dropped out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

Is this the tournament that the Crabs dropped out of this week?

Only Crabs 2021 was scheduled to go. Yes they dropped out.

Crabs 2020 was scheduled to go also and dropped out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]who is playing in spring lax jam this weekend?

Its garbage at 8th grade and below. No checking, what a joke

It will be TERPS VS TAZ in the finals

TAZ. Hahahaha

Not sure what the last comment meant. If Terps and Taz were in the event, they would be the two best teams. As it is, Taz is not playing and I am doubtful that Terps are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now we know why Looney's 2020 is in HoCo and Madlax 2020 is not. They have holdbacks, including one that is flown in from FL.

HoCo is a fraud of a league.

HOCO is more responsible for the Holdback /prefisrt grade base team mess than the Crabs are.
They should carry the honor of screwing up youth lacrosse in Maryland.
Wonder who was responsible for the lacrosse grade base league in the county when every other league they sponsor is age based.

Is it worth it to attend Brine nationals in Virginia (July 2016) if you make the cut on Friday ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it worth it to attend Brine nationals in Virginia (July 2016) if you make the cut on Friday ??

If they keep all the 2021 kids on the team, No. Many of the better 2020 kids did not even try out. Less than a handful,of Crush kids. Will be interesting to see how this team does this year against Maryland competition.

Lineup for the Big 4 tournament is out: It looks like a lot of good teams.

Big 4 HHH
Express North
Laxachusetts
Leading Edge
Crush
Crabs
Madlax
Upstate LC
Eclipse
3d Tri State
3d New England
BBL
24/7
Mesa Futures
WCS
Next Level
PrimeTime
C2C National
LB3 National
Palm Beach Revolution
Edge (1)
Edge (2)

Any predictions or pretournament rankings?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is it worth it to attend Brine nationals in Virginia (July 2016) if you make the cut on Friday ??

If they keep all the 2021 kids on the team, No. Many of the better 2020 kids did not even try out. Less than a handful,of Crush kids. Will be interesting to see how this team does this year against Maryland competition.

In Maryland the better players are North of the city as well as their associated clubs. Brine tryouts in MD do not attract the top talent for some reason. Not railing on this product, just have seen that the kids who tryout and ultimately play, are not top kids across the board. Some very talented for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Is it worth it to attend Brine nationals in Virginia (July 2016) if you make the cut on Friday ??

If they keep all the 2021 kids on the team, No. Many of the better 2020 kids did not even try out. Less than a handful,of Crush kids. Will be interesting to see how this team does this year against Maryland competition.

In Maryland the better players are North of the city as well as their associated clubs. Brine tryouts in MD do not attract the top talent for some reason. Not railing on this product, just have seen that the kids who tryout and ultimately play, are not top kids across the board. Some very talented for sure.

This is because it's not a recruiting event. Rising freshman are now a recruiting year. The better kids are attending recruiting events. Was not the case a few years ago. It's fun, but pretty much a very expensive waste of time.

That is 100% true, if your kid wants to go and is looking to just have fun then you should do it without expecting any coaches or great lacrosse for that matter ...

[quote=Anonymous]That is 100% true, if your kid wants to go and is looking to just have fun then you should do it without expecting any coaches or great lacrosse for that matter ...

Agree 100%

What would be good recruiting events and or camos etc
.... to attend. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be good recruiting events and or camos etc
.... to attend. Thanks

In order:

Showtime

Under Armour

Jake Reed

All the rest

In a the fall: Phiilly freshman showcase

Do not go to any of them go to school your son wants to play for pick 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do not go to any of them go to school your son wants to play for pick 3

I wonder if the Dad coached whose sons are trying out will be evaluating again?

What's the word on Brine. Talent pool mediocre, best LI talent not buying in.

The talent pool on LI is low at '20. I have two not much older and see the difference.

What do you mean ? It's fun for the kids playing for their region with their friends from other teams , looks good on their resume , although not a recruiting event , there are coaches around. So who's not "buying" into it ?? The parents you mean.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the word on Brine. Talent pool mediocre, best LI talent not buying in.

Was TA from Igloo running the show?

He wishes, guy pushes all his mediocre players who can't hold a 2020 jock except for the holdbacks, he should focus on 2021, he and his kids can't handle playing up at all.

What about the Farmingdale assistant coach who works for fl$? He stacked the first round with plenty of his players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the Farmingdale assistant coach who works for fl$? He stacked the first round with plenty of his players

But unlike TA was not on the field Friday night.

Yeah " talent pull at 2020 is low. " They only had the youngest kid to ever commit in 8th grade....Some of the more dominant teams in the country and talent spread around on other teams that High School coaches will be very excited about. There is no way this came from a parent. If your not a child don't be such a [lacrosse] and tell us what your boys team is so our so our 2020's can come after them when their seniors deuchebag. Unless this is from that dumb Sweet Lax moron. You need a serious reality check pal.

So because one kid commits that means the '20's are strong ? That makes sense. It's a fact . Why is there only one really dominate team ? Because of the low number of very elite players. The competition is weak.

You still have not said where your upper class bench warmers are from that make you the talent evaluator. Just fess up your a jealous 2021 kid or 2018, 2019 bench warmer that knows a 2020 kid is gna take you ot your sons roster spot. Have you seen the Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Laxachsuetts, Crabs, Looneys, NH Tomahwks or even fl$ play ? I doubt it.

Advice please - what does the center middie on your team use to faceoff and play - not fogo. Thanks very much

CEO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You still have not said where your upper class bench warmers are from that make you the talent evaluator. Just fess up your a jealous 2021 kid or 2018, 2019 bench warmer that knows a 2020 kid is gna take you ot your sons roster spot. Have you seen the Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Laxachsuetts, Crabs, Looneys, NH Tomahwks or even fl$ play ? I doubt it.

Thanks , my kids committed already so nobody is "gna" take his spot. And yes I've seen all those teams play at other ages. Like I said , not as strong. Don't get nervous. They'll have to take a few '20's

Every year some know it all from an older age group says some younger age group isn't that strong. Every year is about the same in terms of athletes and talent. I have a 2020 and I'm biased in my thinking that 2021 isn't that great. But I know that age group will mature and be just as good next year.

Oh no, class of 20 is "weak" what are we going to do... ego driven dad now feels better about his 21 / 19 kid. Good for him. Lets move on. I'm sure there'll be the same amount of 20's signed to play in college as there were 15,16,17,18,19,20,21 and 22. Such a dumb comment... but completely transparent. he should quit his day job and open up a recruiting evaluation service as he is all knowing...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You still have not said where your upper class bench warmers are from that make you the talent evaluator. Just fess up your a jealous 2021 kid or 2018, 2019 bench warmer that knows a 2020 kid is gna take you ot your sons roster spot. Have you seen the Express Terps, Legacy Taz, Laxachsuetts, Crabs, Looneys, NH Tomahwks or even fl$ play ? I doubt it.

Thanks , my kids committed already so nobody is "gna" take his spot. And yes I've seen all those teams play at other ages. Like I said , not as strong. Don't get nervous. They'll have to take a few '20's

Good one, seen some 22's who are better then your precious 21's.

Nobody's nervous tough guy. Your the idiot who made such a stupid 2020 "weak" comment. Why don't you start your own showcase, I'm sure there are some suckers that would come to have you and your big "Commit" get your expert critique duechebag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, for the third time, why are certain clubs [****]? Pretty simple inquiry, No? Or am I missing something?

I have asked that multiple times too, someone did answer and it has something to do with the BOTC "board" not being happy with these clubs. So the "board" has decided that will star out their names because apparently seeing the club names here means that the BOTC is somehow endorsing those clubs. BTW, if you want to see the club names just hit the quote button and the names appear

Def. looking for a team. Any spots please post.

A complete waste of time , some kids on there should not be there it has become a "favors" team ...... SAVE YOUR MONEY AND STAY HOME

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, for the third time, why are certain clubs [****]? Pretty simple inquiry, No? Or am I missing something?

I have asked that multiple times too, someone did answer and it has something to do with the BOTC "board" not being happy with these clubs. So the "board" has decided that will star out their names because apparently seeing the club names here means that the BOTC is somehow endorsing those clubs. BTW, if you want to see the club names just hit the quote button and the names appear

There are five pages of topic heading off of the main forum, including from the time before the team name was banned. That may give you some insight to the way the club operates.

sorry, not following. I assume you are talking about ninety-one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sorry, not following. I assume you are talking about ninety-one.

Yes because they do not pay for advertisement on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sorry, not following. I assume you are talking about ninety-one.

Yes because they do not pay for advertisement on BOTC.

For your information, Clueless, they did pay for advertising on BOTC.. We refunded their money and sent them packing.. Maybe you are so far out of the loop that you have absolutely no clue BUT the truth is that BOTC sent them on their way... AND we hear that they are not doing too well!!!

The divisions for Crabfeast 2020 AA are released!

is For The Love of ____ exiled also?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The divisions for Crabfeast 2020 AA are released!

what teams are playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is For The Love of ____ exiled also?

this one I don't understand

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The divisions for Crabfeast 2020 AA are released!

what teams are playing?

Blue
Eclipse
FCA
Leading edge
VLC

Red
HHH
Looneys
NH Tomahawks
Team Igloos

Yellow
Crabs
Palm Beach Revolution
Resolute
Team Minnesota

Black
Annapolis Hawks
Lax Factory
LI Express
Thunder

Green
Alcatraz Outlaws
Laxachusetts
MADLAX

Orange
Carolina Cannons
Michigan Warriors
91

Anyone know how Madlax vs. Leading Edge went in the play day this weekend?

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sorry, not following. I assume you are talking about ninety-one.

Yes because they do not pay for advertisement on BOTC.

For your information, Clueless, they did pay for advertising on BOTC.. We refunded their money and sent them packing.. Maybe you are so far out of the loop that you have absolutely no clue BUT the truth is that BOTC sent them on their way... AND we hear that they are not doing too well!!!

So, BOTC who are your favorite clubs other than the biggest sponsor?

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

Why do you think that? Did they cxl a game or something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

This is a wonderful example of a mindless weasel looking to stir the pot. Climb back in your hole.

"stir the pot" another way of saying you hit a nerve with that one. Better get that nerve looked at soon.

Brine is funny. If my count is correct there are more '21 igloo kids that made it than: 89+2, Terps, Legacy and fl$ who all had multpiple kids and Igloo '20 with one. Sure, no bias whatsoever in the selection process.

Also, its weird that there is a current 9th grader '00 birthday kid that made it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Madlax vs. Leading Edge went in the play day this weekend?

Leading Edge Spanked HHH bad. Real bad. I thought HHH was a philly power?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine is funny. If my count is correct there are more '21 igloo kids that made it than: 89+2, Terps, Legacy and fl$ who all had multpiple kids and Igloo '20 with one. Sure, no bias whatsoever in the selection process.

Maybe that's because most of the evaluators were from igloo, a team that could not even score one point against tax last weekend, yet these boys make Brine? Another evaluator was told his opinion didn't matter even though he was a specialist in a certain position, so a different kid could get trough. Shameful playing politics with these kids after grabbing their money. And if you are wondering, no my kid did not tryout, for this exact reason!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine is funny. If my count is correct there are more '21 igloo kids that made it than: 89+2, Terps, Legacy and fl$ who all had multpiple kids and Igloo '20 with one. Sure, no bias whatsoever in the selection process.

Maybe that's because most of the evaluators were from igloo, a team that could not even score one point against tax last weekend, yet these boys make Brine? Another evaluator was told his opinion didn't matter even though he was a specialist in a certain position, so a different kid could get trough. Shameful playing politics with these kids after grabbing their money. And if you are wondering, no my kid did not tryout, for this exact reason!

There are also 2 teams being sent down. Wait and see which one they were assigned to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sorry, not following. I assume you are talking about ninety-one.

Yes because they do not pay for advertisement on BOTC.

For your information, Clueless, they did pay for advertising on BOTC.. We refunded their money and sent them packing.. Maybe you are so far out of the loop that you have absolutely no clue BUT the truth is that BOTC sent them on their way... AND we hear that they are not doing too well!!!

So, BOTC who are your favorite clubs other than the biggest sponsor?

This site is funny. You can say a lot of negative things about the couple of clubs that no one is allowed to write their names , but them not doing well is just a fabrication. Those two clubs are probably two of the best run , most profitable clubs in the country! I would understand if you say you don't like how they do Buisness , but not doing well is a stretch!

How did Leading Edge fare against Madlax then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is For The Love of ____ exiled also?

is this for the issue where some Chaminade kids, last year, not playing or being removed... because they played with their HS team for a tournament instead of traveling

what did Leg a Sea do "wrong" as defined by someone based on who knows what to be banished?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine is funny. If my count is correct there are more '21 igloo kids that made it than: 89+2, Terps, Legacy and fl$ who all had multpiple kids and Igloo '20 with one. Sure, no bias whatsoever in the selection process.

Maybe that's because most of the evaluators were from igloo, a team that could not even score one point against tax last weekend, yet these boys make Brine? Another evaluator was told his opinion didn't matter even though he was a specialist in a certain position, so a different kid could get trough. Shameful playing politics with these kids after grabbing their money. And if you are wondering, no my kid did not tryout, for this exact reason!

There are also 2 teams being sent down. Wait and see which one they were assigned to.

The amount of 2021s, all from the same club, is sad. Clearly the evaluator from that club forced his kids on the team. Hopefully they'll do the right thing and put them on the "seconds" team. There are a few 2021s that can hold their own but NONE good enough to play on a 2020 all star team. TA making a bad name for himself even worse...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Brine is funny. If my count is correct there are more '21 igloo kids that made it than: 89+2, Terps, Legacy and fl$ who all had multpiple kids and Igloo '20 with one. Sure, no bias whatsoever in the selection process.

Maybe that's because most of the evaluators were from igloo, a team that could not even score one point against tax last weekend, yet these boys make Brine? Another evaluator was told his opinion didn't matter even though he was a specialist in a certain position, so a different kid could get trough. Shameful playing politics with these kids after grabbing their money. And if you are wondering, no my kid did not tryout, for this exact reason!

There are also 2 teams being sent down. Wait and see which one they were assigned to.

The amount of 2021s, all from the same club, is sad. Clearly the evaluator from that club forced his kids on the team. Hopefully they'll do the right thing and put them on the "seconds" team. There are a few 2021s that can hold their own but NONE good enough to play on a 2020 all star team. TA making a bad name for himself even worse...

In reality, AA is doing what any club director should be doing, and that's getting their players on to the best teams, in the best showcases. The real question is how did the organizers of the Brine event allow it? This sort of obvious favoritism does nothing but confirm the general consenus that the selection process is rigged. It also dilutes the accomplishment of the other boys that got selected.

The answer is simple at best Brine is a B Event which suits AA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

AA also called in a favor for '20 player no longer with igloo because he "aged out" based on new rules... For sure you'll see him with that B group as well as he has no business among LI's best. Can't question his loyalty, that's for sure but selections should raise an eyebrow for Brine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

America's Game and I went back and forth with me telling him to cut it out when he tried to say he had no clue who he was writing about. Review it from last year. He went on and on about favoritism.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

I think they were referring to the Brine event comments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

America's Game and I went back and forth with me telling him to cut it out when he tried to say he had no clue who he was writing about. Review it from last year. He went on and on about favoritism.

Ok. I had no idea.

You people are all nothing but a bunch of cry babies . Just a Suggestion maybe if you stop crying so loud and started encouraging your kid to work harder that might work a little better . Sick of parents calling foul . What when you kid goes for a job and does not get let me guess your going to call the guy who did not hire him and complain. Enough sometimes kids need to be told no ..And yes sometimes life does not "SEEM" fair but move on for really .we are raising a bunch of P$@&#�S . AND THE PARENTS ARE THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!
#parentsaretheproblem #letdaddywipeyournose

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people are all nothing but a bunch of cry babies . Just a Suggestion maybe if you stop crying so loud and started encouraging your kid to work harder that might work a little better . Sick of parents calling foul . What when you kid goes for a job and does not get let me guess your going to call the guy who did not hire him and complain. Enough sometimes kids need to be told no ..And yes sometimes life does not "SEEM" fair but move on for really .we are raising a bunch of P$@&#�S . AND THE PARENTS ARE THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!
#parentsaretheproblem #letdaddywipeyournose

Parents are absolutely the problem. And a parent who would write this is a fine example. I'm sure your kid is a special little guy!

Parents who never played are taking a team sport and turning it into an individual sport... Hard to watch this game now, especially listening to all the morons on the sideline...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

America's Game and I went back and forth with me telling him to cut it out when he tried to say he had no clue who he was writing about. Review it from last year. He went on and on about favoritism.

I honestly have no idea what your talking about. If you post anonymously there is no way to for me to know what posts you are referring to. Please refresh my memory as to why you are even bringing me up in reference to something you claim to have gone back and forth with last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

America's Game and I went back and forth with me telling him to cut it out when he tried to say he had no clue who he was writing about. Review it from last year. He went on and on about favoritism.

I also forgot to ask who are you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought For the love was in the same class as express terps? I guess they dont think so anymore. must have seen the terps play.

What prompted this comment?

Sounds like maybe someone didn't make team? That would be my guess since nothing promoted that. They don't play the local half baked tournaments at grammar schools in Suffolk

Where is the list is it posted publically.

if favoritism is sensed then I would expect the moderators (or at least one of them) would jump all over it as they did last year.

What the [lacrosse] is that supposed to mean?

America's Game and I went back and forth with me telling him to cut it out when he tried to say he had no clue who he was writing about. Review it from last year. He went on and on about favoritism.

Ok so being accused of something and brought up on the 2020 thread i went back and found the posts this person was referring to and it was about players not going to a tryout and being put on a team. This was from the 2019 thread so I find it interesting he is bringing it up in the 2020 thread.

I am against favoritism in anyway because its whats destroying the game.

Basically he or she thinks a player should make a team even if they dont go to tryout. I think its a bunch of BS when a player is a no show to a tryout and makes a team. If thats how you are raising your kid thats fine. I would never allow my son be on a team if he didnt tryout thats just me. I dont think its ok to do it to anyone. So if people are OK with a no show at a tryout by a supposedly great player and for them to automatically be put on that team come at me with reasons and facts please. Please tell me how this is OK.

I think you take the best player can. Some make varsity some stay on JV. End of the day kid never played nor was on any.list. you went out of your way to out them

It was obvious to many who it was. You say you didn't know we and I said many did to cut it out. Let's see if you do the same this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think you take the best player can. Some make varsity some stay on JV. End of the day kid never played nor was on any.list. you went out of your way to out them

So your ok with players not showing up to tryouts and making regional teams, like Brine, Under Armour etc. So then why have a tryout. I never went out of my way to out someone. When people are posting how unhappy they are with what occurred it's my job as a moderator to create discussion and bring to attention the good and the bad of the game our children play.

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think you take the best player can. Some make varsity some stay on JV. End of the day kid never played nor was on any.list. you went out of your way to out them

So your ok with players not showing up to tryouts and making regional teams, like Brine, Under Armour etc. So then why have a tryout. I never went out of my way to out someone. When people are posting how unhappy they are with what occurred it's my job as a moderator to create discussion and bring to attention the good and the bad of the game our children play.

I remember this clearly. But moving forward, one question. If the top 2020 player this year had a game that night, and had to miss the tryout due to a varsity game, would you leave out the Suffolk counties top points and scorer. Simply foolish if you did, tryout or not.

Now onto the real issue this year, if you are so diligent in your research did a certain evaluator have to much say on letting his kids in. Not sure how you can judge. It's all relative. The only objective part is do the numbers indicate an impropriety take place. Subjective is if they derseved it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by America's Game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think you take the best player can. Some make varsity some stay on JV. End of the day kid never played nor was on any.list. you went out of your way to out them

So your ok with players not showing up to tryouts and making regional teams, like Brine, Under Armour etc. So then why have a tryout. I never went out of my way to out someone. When people are posting how unhappy they are with what occurred it's my job as a moderator to create discussion and bring to attention the good and the bad of the game our children play.

I remember this clearly. But moving forward, one question. If the top 2020 player this year had a game that night, and had to miss the tryout due to a varsity game, would you leave out the Suffolk counties top points and scorer. Simply foolish if you did, tryout or not.

Now onto the real issue this year, if you are so diligent in your research did a certain evaluator have to much say on letting his kids in. Not sure how you can judge. It's all relative. The only objective part is do the numbers indicate an impropriety take place. Subjective is if they derseved it.

Hey thats life. You make your own choices as to what you prioritize. There are plenty of great players on Long Island. Again I am against a no show for any tryouts. That's just me and what I believe. If a player doesn't show up to a pro tryout a college tryout he doesn't make the team that plain and simple. A lot of this stuff occurs due to politics, nepotism, and plain BS.

As for a certain individual having too much say at a tryout. It's not an anomaly to just this year. It happens whenever a certain club has the most evaluators at a certain event. Look at the U19 team and see where most of those players are from. They happen to be from the schools the head coaches are from. It just doesn't happen in youth but college level events. It's been the major issue I have had with a lot of these select events.

Good competition today at Blatant. Congrats to Set 2020.

How did outlaws do today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did outlaws do today?

They did just fine...

1-2 I think, competitive games against town and B level travels teams. Played well, Didn't embarrass themselves in any way, Including the coachj, which is a breath of fresh air.

They finished 2-1 . They 2020 bracket was very competitive all day

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 I think, competitive games against town and B level travels teams. Played well, Didn't embarrass themselves in any way, Including the coachj, which is a breath of fresh air.

They went 2-1 on the day, so did Express, but Express moved into champ game vs Manhasset

Saw two refs embarrass themselves during the Manhasset v Express game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 I think, competitive games against town and B level travels teams. Played well, Didn't embarrass themselves in any way, Including the coachj, which is a breath of fresh air.

They went 2-1 on the day, so did Express, but Express moved into champ game vs Manhasset

The team is called Set2020, aka as "The Farm"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did outlaws do today?

What grade level?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1-2 I think, competitive games against town and B level travels teams. Played well, Didn't embarrass themselves in any way, Including the coachj, which is a breath of fresh air.

They went 2-1 on the day, so did Express, but Express moved into champ game vs Manhasset

The team is called Set2020, aka as "The Farm"

Please fill us in on what that means

Yes, confirmed. Keep in mind, that is the Express 2/3 team depending on who you ask.

So who won the Championship?

The [lacrosse] Farm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So who won the Championship?

West Islip 2020

Anyone know if the under armour all American underclass team is legit or a money grab?

West Islip won the B bracket
Set Lax won the Big Boy bracket

So which town is Set Lax from ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So which town is Set Lax from ?

Manhasset.

My hat is off to you winning the Big Boy division with just town kids .

FYI that Madlax 2020 had a great spring playing most of the best clubs on the East Coast. Much better than playing in the HoCo league.

Get ready for Madlax to make a big statement this summer. You've been warned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

West Islip won the B bracket
Set Lax won the Big Boy bracket

sounds like these two towns should schedule a game.

I would be they weren't all from Manhasset with that name...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My hat is off to you winning the Big Boy division with just town kids .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI that Madlax 2020 had a great spring playing most of the best clubs on the East Coast. Much better than playing in the HoCo league.

Get ready for Madlax to make a big statement this summer. You've been warned.

What elite teams did they play?

Besides looneys who beat them 16-2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know if the under armour all American underclass team is legit or a money grab?

I don't know if I would call it a money grab, but I definitely would not call it legit. My son tried out last year and didn't make it past first round. With that said, there are a lot of college coaches in attendance and he was contacted by 11 or 12 schools which made it worth it for us. The event is run by the Express directors with decisions being made by them and other coaches who evaluate, and as you would imagine there is no doubt politics involved in all the cut rounds as is usually the case with these types of try outs. Many of the kids who do make it from round to round of cuts are very deserving, but there are always a bunch that leave everyone with a bad taste in their mouths. The short answer is don't go with any expectations of making the team, but if your son plays well he will get some looks and maybe make it to the next round.

Before someone accuses me of sour grapes and says I don't know what I'm talking about and it's only my opinion. I will tell you that some of the college coaches who contacted my son told us they all know the fix is in and the best players don't necessarily make the team because of the politics. That's why so many coaches show up for the first round to see as many kids as they can before the nonsense starts when cuts are made. Good luck.

That sounds like a good honest answer to me. Thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FYI that Madlax 2020 had a great spring playing most of the best clubs on the East Coast. Much better than playing in the HoCo league.

Get ready for Madlax to make a big statement this summer. You've been warned.

What elite teams did they play?

Besides looneys who beat them 16-2

MadLax Capital played MadLax Tri-state, MadLax NoVa, and MadLax I-95 corridor. Look out everyone.

Kinda of ridiculous to say ML played better competition than the HOCO league. Every team in the elite division would dismantle ML. Some already have....

Manhasset -4 West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Manhasset -4 West Islip

Are we gambling on middle school lacrosse?

No i think Manhasset is 4 goals better than WI. Get your mind out of the gutter. Who said anything about wagering?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No i think Manhasset is 4 goals better than WI. Get your mind out of the gutter. Who said anything about wagering?

The way it was written it is Manhasset giving 4. subject to interpretation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No i think Manhasset is 4 goals better than WI. Get your mind out of the gutter. Who said anything about wagering?

The way it was written it is Manhasset giving 4. subject to interpretation

The Set 2020 team is For the Love of the Green in just wearing different uniforms. Let's keep it real....

Gambling on any lacrosse is silly. there is a reason there is no book on lacrosse. You better not tell your kids you are gambling on their game, talk about pressure they dont need at this age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No i think Manhasset is 4 goals better than WI. Get your mind out of the gutter. Who said anything about wagering?

The way it was written it is Manhasset giving 4. subject to interpretation

The Set 2020 team is For the Love of the Green in just wearing different uniforms. Let's keep it real....

An overlap, but it's not the same team.

Green is mostly manhasset kids no?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kinda of ridiculous to say ML played better competition than the HOCO league. Every team in the elite division would dismantle ML. Some already have....

Keep talking. You'll be eating those words this summer.

Big 4 HHH has some very strong teams playing. Anyone give us a rating so we know who we are facing. Of course we know that Crush and Crabs will be strong. Can anyone kindly fill in the rest. Thank You

Anyone got any new rankings? Just curious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is mostly manhasset kids no?

Greens is mostly Manhasset dads...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Green is mostly manhasset kids no?

Greens is mostly Manhasset dads...

Now that Edisons closed

ST As parent be aware with head varsity coach's son coming up to play next year there will be limited room for talent without a hook your son may end up riding the bench, St As is all about $$$$ donations and hooks with all the Hooks and $$$$ coming up next year there will be little room for unhooked talent Be aware, SJB or kellenberg might be a better choice

what does Hooked unhooked mean.

Greens - is a pub in Manhasset... funny. Some of you guys are good.

Hooked means to have a coach give your son a starting position on the team even if they are not the best player trying out for that position,

Unhooked means you are trying out for a position on the team, Either you do not donate large sums of money to the school and or you do not know any of the coach's or there family members well enough for them to give your son unfair favoritism, In short if your son is trying out for attack and you think there are 6 positions open there are only 2 because 4 of the spots are already filled by the parents/kids with hooks

I hope I was able to help you understand, P.S. try getting out of your house a little, life is to short you should have been able to understand the slang of hook and unhooked

FREDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how many 2020's are being actively recruited at this point? I have only heard of 1 commit, are there others?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how many 2020's are being actively recruited at this point? I have only heard of 1 commit, are there others?

Probably the exceptional players with political ties at this point. All the showcases are heating up so I would imagine it will be nuts in 30-60 days for everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how many 2020's are being actively recruited at this point? I have only heard of 1 commit, are there others?

Relax already. There will be plenty of time for 2020s to commit. They haven't even entered high school for God's sake. You will see commitsments really pick up in the winter and then summer of next year.

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder how many 2020's are being actively recruited at this point? I have only heard of 1 commit, are there others?

Probably the exceptional players with political ties at this point. All the showcases are heating up so I would imagine it will be nuts in 30-60 days for everyone else.

Given how crazy this all is, I would be shocked if almost all of 91 wasnt getting serious attention already.

88+3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Thought reclass was a Maryland thing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Thought reclass was a Maryland thing

It is, but on Long Island most of the players that reclass stay on their original travel/club team, unlike Maryland, who immediately drop down a year to get an advantage...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Thought reclass was a Maryland thing

It is, but on Long Island most of the players that reclass stay on their original travel/club team, unlike Maryland, who immediately drop down a year to get an advantage...

Probably the best way to go overall. That way you still get the benefit of looking bigger and faster to the college coaches but dont have to listen to the crybaby daddies say that you did it solely to win a youth tournament. Smart move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Congrats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Thought reclass was a Maryland thing

It is, but on Long Island most of the players that reclass stay on their original travel/club team, unlike Maryland, who immediately drop down a year to get an advantage...

Doesn't the reclassed 2019 in question play 2020 for club?

That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.

both should be fine and are tops in 2019

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One just committed to Michigan from long island

Really good player - re classed 2019

Thought reclass was a Maryland thing

It is, but on Long Island most of the players that reclass stay on their original travel/club team, unlike Maryland, who immediately drop down a year to get an advantage...

Doesn't the reclassed 2019 in question play 2020 for club?

No. Stayed with 2019.

Congrats to the recent 2020 Michigan recruit! going to be an exciting summer for the boys, who's next and where?

Loser who's next and where? Get a life! Another guy living through his kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

You could make the same statement about any 8th grader that commits - 4 or 5 years away is a long time for anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.
Without getting us off the topic (2020) too much, Why would a coach leave over the next 3 years from one of the top colleges in one of the top conferences in the country when from all appearances, he is making inroads in recruiting and is probably building himself a premier program with likely unparalleled resources. Seems like he is set for the time being and I would think this is a place I would want to go for all the reasons stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolvorines in the tournament within the next few years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.
Without getting us off the topic (2020) too much, Why would a coach leave over the next 3 years from one of the top colleges in one of the top conferences in the country when from all appearances, he is making inroads in recruiting and is probably building himself a premier program with likely unparalleled resources. Seems like he is set for the time being and I would think this is a place I would want to go for all the reasons stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolvorines in the tournament within the next few years.

Are you serious?? Great school but the lacrosse program is a trainwreck! Getting worse not better, even though they have some talented players. Did they even win a game this year? So many better options. Pathetic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.
Without getting us off the topic (2020) too much, Why would a coach leave over the next 3 years from one of the top colleges in one of the top conferences in the country when from all appearances, he is making inroads in recruiting and is probably building himself a premier program with likely unparalleled resources. Seems like he is set for the time being and I would think this is a place I would want to go for all the reasons stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolvorines in the tournament within the next few years.

Are you serious?? Great school but the lacrosse program is a trainwreck! Getting worse not better, even though they have some talented players. Did they even win a game this year? So many better options. Pathetic!

Explain exactly what constitutes a better option than the University of Michigan? Lets see I'll give you Ivies (if you can get in) then maybe Duke, ND, GTown, UVA (maybe) then...? A school that pays for all four years of college? last I checked there are only 3 schools in DI that guarantee a four year education and there are some strings attached to that agreement.

Michigan - great education and those helmets are the bomb.

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.
Without getting us off the topic (2020) too much, Why would a coach leave over the next 3 years from one of the top colleges in one of the top conferences in the country when from all appearances, he is making inroads in recruiting and is probably building himself a premier program with likely unparalleled resources. Seems like he is set for the time being and I would think this is a place I would want to go for all the reasons stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolvorines in the tournament within the next few years.

Are you serious?? Great school but the lacrosse program is a trainwreck! Getting worse not better, even though they have some talented players. Did they even win a game this year? So many better options. Pathetic!

Explain exactly what constitutes a better option than the University of Michigan? Lets see I'll give you Ivies (if you can get in) then maybe Duke, ND, GTown, UVA (maybe) then...? A school that pays for all four years of college? last I checked there are only 3 schools in DI that guarantee a four year education and there are some strings attached to that agreement.

School is good, no doubt. Lax program miserable. My kid was offered there, but since lacrosse will be a big part of his college experience with the rigor of being a D1 athlete, he chose another on your list. I guess it would also depend how serious you are about contributing to a winning program. If you are satisfied riding pine and getting berated by a losing coach in fear of his job, maybe it's the right place, after all it is a fine school in other aspects.

Anyone do any of the individual showcases this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]That early Michigan commit should get interesting. I'll be shocked if the current coach is still there by the time his NLI day comes...

Plays for Kellenberg if I'm not mistaken

your talking about the Dpole (at Kelly) not the middie 19/20 recent commit.
Without getting us off the topic (2020) too much, Why would a coach leave over the next 3 years from one of the top colleges in one of the top conferences in the country when from all appearances, he is making inroads in recruiting and is probably building himself a premier program with likely unparalleled resources. Seems like he is set for the time being and I would think this is a place I would want to go for all the reasons stated. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolvorines in the tournament within the next few years.

Are you serious?? Great school but the lacrosse program is a trainwreck! Getting worse not better, even though they have some talented players. Did they even win a game this year? So many better options. Pathetic!

Explain exactly what constitutes a better option than the University of Michigan? Lets see I'll give you Ivies (if you can get in) then maybe Duke, ND, GTown, UVA (maybe) then...? A school that pays for all four years of college? last I checked there are only 3 schools in DI that guarantee a four year education and there are some strings attached to that agreement.

School is good, no doubt. Lax program miserable. My kid was offered there, but since lacrosse will be a big part of his college experience with the rigor of being a D1 athlete, he chose another on your list. I guess it would also depend how serious you are about contributing to a winning program. If you are satisfied riding pine and getting berated by a losing coach in fear of his job, maybe it's the right place, after all it is a fine school in other aspects.

To each his own. But plenty of coaches berate players and tons will ride the pine for 4 years at tons of schools. I don't have a dog in the fight but folks on a 2020 board taking shots at UM cuz they arent winning now are missing the bigger picture. UM does very few things half way. Doubt the current record stays that way by the time 19/20 kids get there. And...as mentioned...while lax is important so is getting a job. UM has one of the largest and most active alumni bases you will find...as does ND, Duke, Harvard, etc...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Good for the kid who "committed" to UM. I didn't mean the current coach would leave there on his own but rather he better show some improvement over the next two years max or he will be out which may put the kid at risk at UM if that coach is gone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Yep, talked to some of their parents at another event. Sons 2020 team will be no more after the summer. The boys on that team are being encouraged to try out for NXT, some will make it some won't. Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams. It will be interesting to see what happens and where those boys land.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for the kid who "committed" to UM. I didn't mean the current coach would leave there on his own but rather he better show some improvement over the next two years max or he will be out which may put the kid at risk at UM if that coach is gone.

Just glad we have another mature 8th grader out there. I kind of feel guilty that my son still doesn't listen to me all the time and these other kids already know what college they want to go to. I need to ask the parents what the key is to their success

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams...

That is a tough road to travel. Without the hype of college recruiting how will they attract quality players to their club?

As a parent I would love it if they can really teach and challenge the boys and develop fundamentals and IQ and have fewer ulterior motives. I'll admit that view might be pretty naive.

Wow! Can't understand why Under Armour would allow 17 year olds to play on their South Team?? Just took a peak at the roster, aren't these parents embarrassed and how do the tournament directors allow these parents and kids to get away with it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Can't understand why Under Armour would allow 17 year olds to play on their South Team?? Just took a peak at the roster, aren't these parents embarrassed and how do the tournament directors allow these parents and kids to get away with it?

.

My Rising Sr. could whoop the asses of most the 2019 too... and he is 7 1/2 months younger than the St. Andrews Kid, I hope that is a type O.

Looking for a 2020 "B" level travel team or "A" level town for 2016 Jimmy McGrath memorial lacrosse Tournament June 25th at St Pauls you can email me @ fsyouthlax@gmail.com for more info

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Yep, talked to some of their parents at another event. Sons 2020 team will be no more after the summer. The boys on that team are being encouraged to try out for NXT, some will make it some won't. Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams. It will be interesting to see what happens and where those boys land.

NXT is a good organization but their 2020 team is weak. I can't imagine any of the Sons not making it, or wanting to go there.

Basically their entire team will make up the new NXT 2020 HS team. I'm assuming they are going to leverage NXT for their recruiting ability. NXT is big in that market. Their HS teams are actually really good. This 2020 team will be the best in Philly because it will be made up of mostly Sons and a handful of other local talent. I bet kids leave Mesa and HHH to try and get on that team now. All very interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Yep, talked to some of their parents at another event. Sons 2020 team will be no more after the summer. The boys on that team are being encouraged to try out for NXT, some will make it some won't. Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams. It will be interesting to see what happens and where those boys land.

NXT is a good organization but their 2020 team is weak. I can't imagine any of the Sons not making it, or wanting to go there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Basically their entire team will make up the new NXT 2020 HS team. I'm assuming they are going to leverage NXT for their recruiting ability. NXT is big in that market. Their HS teams are actually really good. This 2020 team will be the best in Philly because it will be made up of mostly Sons and a handful of other local talent. I bet kids leave Mesa and HHH to try and get on that team now. All very interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Yep, talked to some of their parents at another event. Sons 2020 team will be no more after the summer. The boys on that team are being encouraged to try out for NXT, some will make it some won't. Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams. It will be interesting to see what happens and where those boys land.

NXT is a good organization but their 2020 team is weak. I can't imagine any of the Sons not making it, or wanting to go there.

I highly doubt they will be the best in Philly, however, if you ask them they will be happy to tell you just how great they are currently. I guess if you say you are the best enough times, maybe it will be true?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Basically their entire team will make up the new NXT 2020 HS team. I'm assuming they are going to leverage NXT for their recruiting ability. NXT is big in that market. Their HS teams are actually really good. This 2020 team will be the best in Philly because it will be made up of mostly Sons and a handful of other local talent. I bet kids leave Mesa and HHH to try and get on that team now. All very interesting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Rising Sons lacrose club really folding?

Where did you hear this? Can't see that happening.

Yep, talked to some of their parents at another event. Sons 2020 team will be no more after the summer. The boys on that team are being encouraged to try out for NXT, some will make it some won't. Rising Sons is only going to be a club for 4th-8th grade teams. It will be interesting to see what happens and where those boys land.

NXT is a good organization but their 2020 team is weak. I can't imagine any of the Sons not making it, or wanting to go there.

I highly doubt they will be the best in Philly, however, if you ask them they will be happy to tell you just how great they are currently. I guess if you say you are the best enough times, maybe it will be true?!

I think they are referring that the sons are the best in philly now at 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 HHH Edge Canada versus Crush 2020 3.30pm Saturday June 18th Hill School assuming they get through their first round games.

Platinum Cup and Big 4 both have really strong teams. Should be interesting to see the results.

Sons, the best?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

From what part of the USA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

From what part of the USA?

Towson, MD...FCA Attackman going to UNC. Not a surprise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

yeah but playing the likes of Legacy, Crush, Express, Crabs, Loony's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah but playing the likes of Legacy, Crush, Express, Crabs, Loony's.

When did they play Crush this spring (they got crushed by them indoor)? You also forgot to mention Team 91 MD, Hawks, Next Level and some rec from PA... (all you have to do is look at the website of the two leagues they played in this spring)
If this is the best PA has to offer, it is a sad state of affairs in PA

Never lost to freedom...ever. 14-3 looks like the last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

From what part of the USA?

Towson, MD...FCA Attackman going to UNC. Not a surprise.

Does he have the same name as the head coach, who is also the head coach at Calvert Hall HS. They seem to have a pipe line to UNC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never lost to freedom...ever. 14-3 looks like the last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Looks like someone has selective memory, WCU field. Summer 2015, pretty sure that was the last time the two teams faced off.

That was tie knucklehead. Felt like a loss i'm sure for the sons but it was a tie. Last meeting Harvest Classic November 2015. Speaking of selective memory. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never lost to freedom...ever. 14-3 looks like the last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Looks like someone has selective memory, WCU field. Summer 2015, pretty sure that was the last time the two teams faced off.

Sorry 13-5 2:50 pm game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never lost to freedom...ever. 14-3 looks like the last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Looks like someone has selective memory, WCU field. Summer 2015, pretty sure that was the last time the two teams faced off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah but playing the likes of Legacy, Crush, Express, Crabs, Loony's.

They lost to Looneys 8-5, Lost to Crabs 5-4, Beat 91 and Lost to 91. Lost to express by 1, tied legacy. Yeah they suck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was tie knucklehead. Felt like a loss i'm sure for the sons but it was a tie. Last meeting Harvest Classic November 2015. Speaking of selective memory. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never lost to freedom...ever. 14-3 looks like the last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Looks like someone has selective memory, WCU field. Summer 2015, pretty sure that was the last time the two teams faced off.

Wow, someone hit a nerve, you sound a little angry and defensive. No one said they sucked, but to say they are the "best" is a huge stretch to say the least

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

From what part of the USA?

Towson, MD...FCA Attackman going to UNC. Not a surprise.

Does he have the same name as the head coach, who is also the head coach at Calvert Hall HS. They seem to have a pipe line to UNC.

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Honest question...Philadelphia Freedom, Freedom, Red Freedom - all the same team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Honest question...Philadelphia Freedom, Freedom, Red Freedom - all the same team?

Yes, there is also a Freedom White, that is the B team from the Phildelphia Freedom Club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another 2020 commit but from Maryland this time

From what part of the USA?

Towson, MD...FCA Attackman going to UNC. Not a surprise.

Does he have the same name as the head coach, who is also the head coach at Calvert Hall HS. They seem to have a pipe line to UNC.

He is very good player and could've committed to any number of schools (Maryland, pen state, Virginia, etc) but UNC is where his father went and a lot of his cousins

Expect the next commit from Madlax 2020.

Congrats to the 2020 attack UNC commit. Very exciting to see some of the kids in the 2020 class already being recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expect the next commit from Madlax 2020.

VMI?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expect the next commit from Madlax 2020.

VMI?

Harford CC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expect the next commit from Madlax 2020.

VMI?

Harford CC

Who is nuttier- Madlax dad or Viper dad?

Viper dad? did you mean Visor dad? our favorite BOTC super hero.

Who stood out at Stony Brook today? Ty Xanders in the house!

Adrenaline predictions
Wcs over prime time
Laxachussettes over hhh
Madlax over leading edge
Crabs over express
Crush over wcs
Hhh over prime time
Crabs over Madlax
Express over leading edge
Laxachussettes over wcs
Crush over prime time
Express over Madlax
Wcs over hhh
Crush over laxachussettes
Crabs over leading edge

Ty Xanders - who cares?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expect the next commit from Madlax 2020.

VMI?

Harford CC

Who is nuttier- Madlax dad or Viper dad?

don't forget crabby daddy and his 16 year old 8th grader

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty Xanders - who cares?

Would be interesting to know how much college coaches value him and his commentary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who stood out at Stony Brook today? Ty Xanders in the house!

At the F/O California kid made The "elite " LI boys look silly

Ty Xanders is a tool. Would you base your lineup on his observations?

Madlax 2020 ready to take over strong island today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ty Xanders is a tool. Would you base your lineup on his observations?

You met the kid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Adrenaline predictions
Wcs over prime time
Laxachussettes over hhh
Madlax over leading edge
Crabs over express
Crush over wcs
Hhh over prime time
Crabs over Madlax
Express over leading edge
Laxachussettes over wcs
Crush over prime time
Express over Madlax
Wcs over hhh
Crush over laxachussettes
Crabs over leading edge

You underestimated Leading Edge. Beat Express A and Madlax.

Anyone know how Madlax is doing? Wouldn't be surprised.if they are whooping some teams today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know how Madlax is doing? Wouldn't be surprised.if they are whooping some teams today.

Madlax is 0-2 in the 2020 bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Adrenaline predictions
Wcs over prime time
Laxachussettes over hhh
Madlax over leading edge
Crabs over express
Crush over wcs
Hhh over prime time
Crabs over Madlax
Express over leading edge
Laxachussettes over wcs
Crush over prime time
Express over Madlax
Wcs over hhh
Crush over laxachussettes
Crabs over leading edge

You underestimated Leading Edge. Beat Express A and Madlax.

Went 12 and 2. Clearly underestimated leading edge.

Hard to pick anything but chalk in the brackets. With every decent team in the country playing in at least 1 of adrenaline big 4 and young gunz, everyone should have a good idea where they stand.

I've met him. Lax bro. Wouldn't trust his judgement on setting up a rec team. Just another assclown feeding himself and the early recruiting beast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 ready to take over strong island today.

they went 0-3 and they're gonna lose tomorrow to 91 crush. Keep dreaming mad lax dad

Crush scores?

91 vs Crabs will be a beat down. Fat Crab will drop dead on the sideline. Wish I was there to see it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush scores?

15-4 over wcs, 20-0 over Primetime, and 11-2 over laxachusetts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Adrenaline predictions
Wcs over prime time
Laxachussettes over hhh
Madlax over leading edge
Crabs over express
Crush over wcs
Hhh over prime time
Crabs over Madlax
Express over leading edge
Laxachussettes over wcs
Crush over prime time
Express over Madlax
Wcs over hhh
Crush over laxachussettes
Crabs over leading edge

You underestimated Leading Edge. Beat Express A and Madlax.

That was a madlax dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax 2020 ready to take over strong island today.

they went 0-3 and they're gonna lose tomorrow to 91 crush. Keep dreaming mad lax dad

So let's see how long it takes for the madlax dads to start with the excuses why they did win one game

Freedom White is C team because Red Freedom is B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons, the best?

In Philly area, at 2020, yes.

The lost to Freedom last summer, and lost way more games than they won this spring. How exactly does that make them the "best"? I guess if they say it enough they actually believe it?!?

Honest question...Philadelphia Freedom, Freedom, Red Freedom - all the same team?

Yes, there is also a Freedom White, that is the B team from the Phildelphia Freedom Club

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Loony's 2020 FL FOGO commits to UNC!

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

FCA beat looneys today at the Baltimore summer kickoff

Hawks beat 91 MD at beachlax. 91 coach freaks out after 91 goalie is ejected for taunting.

visor dad, viper dad, crabby daddy. I enjoy this thread more and more every day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Such a great team but Crush is on another level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat 91 MD at beachlax. 91 coach freaks out after 91 goalie is ejected for taunting.

That sums it up nicely. Embarrassing for 91.

*10-4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat 91 MD at beachlax. 91 coach freaks out after 91 goalie is ejected for taunting.

That sums it up nicely. Embarrassing for 91.

Guess you missed the taunting going on by the Hawks players before the game even started and continued all game long. But thanks for the update Hawks dad- might want to get a reality check as your players are continuing to taunt on social media so how bout teaching them some sportsmanship on and off the field? Surprised it took 91 almost the whole game to react to your players nonsense and as an FYI....goalie was not ejected. He got a one minute for saying the kids shot was weak so if you are going to update at least do so accurately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks beat 91 MD at beachlax. 91 coach freaks out after 91 goalie is ejected for taunting.

Stayed to watch the cship and would say that the hawks players appeared to be messing with the 91 players when the ball was no where near them and heard some of the defenders talking smack to the 91 players. Goes both ways and the refs call on the goalie was a bit over zealous. Good game by these two teams-they never disappoint. Hawks continue to rely heavily on their very large and tall attack man. Not sure how they would fare without him. Good team if they clean up their tactics and 91 needs to learn not how to react to their tactics.

Penalties didn't matter anyway - game was over before halftime.

91 lax bro coach made a complete fool of himself. It's an 8th grade lacrosse game, at the beach, next to a smelly chicken farm. Chill out - it isn't the NCAA championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Penalties didn't matter anyway - game was over before halftime.

If you really know the two teams you would know it was far from over. Granted 15 minute halves don't leave teams much time to determine much but a two goal lead is not "over" and 91 had just cleared the ball with several minutes left when the penalty was called and possession turned over. 91 beat Hawks in March and Hawks beat 91 by 1 in OT in April. The teams are evenly matched and as poster above noted, take away the huge attackman and the games would be much different as he controls the game for Hawks. You must be the same dad trying to stir up trouble and not acknowledge your son's team behavior before and during the game. Show a bit of grace in your win and move on.

Hawks got tested by a team from Virginia in their first game. Hawks scored with 20 seconds left in game to win 5-4.

Most of the games between these two are close. This game - not so much. 91 got a free clear when they were down by 4. Really? Free clears in 8th grade? The Hawks big middie is not even their starter - the starter is out with a broken hand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the games between these two are close. This game - not so much. 91 got a free clear when they were down by 4. Really? Free clears in 8th grade? The Hawks big middie is not even their starter - the starter is out with a broken hand.

Wait. 91 took the freebie? I know they had that rule in beach lax but most coaches opt not to take the free face-off win. My younger was in a blow-out in u11 rec and the other team kept facing. in 2020 AA you should keep facing off

[quote=Anonymous]Hawks got tested by a team from Virginia in their first game. Hawks scored with 20 seconds left in game to win 5-4. [/quote

Funny thing is that the 91 single a team beat the team that tested the hawks. That team was not THAT good and Hawks struggled. 8th grade lacrosse at beach-teams will vary in how they play based on how much time they swam and played in the beach the day before. Not really indicative of real play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the games between these two are close. This game - not so much. 91 got a free clear when they were down by 4. Really? Free clears in 8th grade? The Hawks big middie is not even their starter - the starter is out with a broken hand.

Wait. 91 took the freebie? I know they had that rule in beach lax but most coaches opt not to take the free face-off win. My younger was in a blow-out in u11 rec and the other team kept facing. in 2020 AA you should keep facing off

Not talking about the middie. The attackman is the difference maker. Middies are shut down every game between these two. 91 also had several key players out with injuries - way life goes in the game. Dont hear them out here making excuses. The teams havr been evenly matched - stop making wavea. Sure Hogan and your head coach would not appreciate it. You won a 30 minute game- congrats.

On any given day - any of the teams in HOCO elite could be beat each other... 91 is a good team but their coach embarrassed himself...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance at Big 4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On any given day - any of the teams in HOCO elite could be beat each other... 91 is a good team but their coach embarrassed himself...

Nothing to argue with there...

And you went 0-6 in HOCO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And you went 0-6 in HOCO.

No embarrassment in the HOCO league for 91 but thanks for trying - 91 lost to 3 of the teams in double or triple OT and to FCA by 1 in a close game. Were tied with Looneys through the last 3-4 minutes of the game. Crabs was only team that beat them decisively. Reminder that 91 also beat Hawks 3 weeks prior to the OT loss with no OT needed and Rising Sons in PA league who they went to OT with in Hoco league a week before. If you know anything about the 2020 teams in this region, you would know on any given day, any of them could beat the other but you clearly have an axe to grind with this team and take to an anonynmous board. Your son was probably one of the Hawks kids who could not get the 91 boys to take the bait with his trash talk all gameand then took to social media last night. Apples do not fall far from the tree but thanks for your opinion. Be sure to let Mr Hogan and your Coach know you are out here stirring up trouble - have heard they have no tolerance for that with adults or the kids.

Horseshoes and hand grenades

An excellent Primetime team? They did not win a game in the tourney. you are truly delusional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An excellent Primetime team? They did not win a game in the tourney. you are truly delusional.

He's just trying to make himself feel better because his son plays for a subpar team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

An excellent Primetime team? They did not win a game in the tourney. you are truly delusional.

He's just trying to make himself feel better because his son plays for a subpar team

This Madlax person is just effing with everyone, they're just trying to stimulate conversation. Nobody would ever say these things about Madlax because they're really not an elite team by any measure. Some good players but can't hang with the elite teams. I would encourage you to ignore the Madlax poster, he's actually pretty funny though.

Primetime was 0-5 and got outscored 60-10!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

Madlax may have pulled a tougher schedule because they are constantly talking about how good they are and how their owner behaves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

An honest dad whom we would all love to meet - good luck to your son and his team at Big 4! Breath of fresh air on this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

Wait..I thought only MD teams had holdbacks. What's with these 5 holdbacks joining Prime Time this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

You are probably a solid A/AA team but you were playing against some of the best teams in the country, a lot of 2019 teams would not have done much better, nothing to be ashamed of, and now you know where you stand. Hopefully the boys had fun and took something positive away from the experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Madlax won't be traveling to LI anymore. 1-4. See what happens when you play real teams and real tournaments. Actions speak louder than words. Just let the kids play and thats it, they did all this smack talking on this thread a couple of months ago and go 1-4 in a really competitive recruiting tournament.

You can shut up, tat face. Madlax was screwed into playing the toughest group of teams: Team 91, Crabs, etc.

Madlax ended the day dominating an excellent Prime Time team. Look for an improved performance.

Sorry my friend, my son plays on Prime Time, and excellent is not a word I would use to describe us at the moment. Maybe we'll show a little better. But this weekend we were borderline pathetic.

Wait..I thought only MD teams had holdbacks. What's with these 5 holdbacks joining Prime Time this weekend?

Credit to the guy who was honest about his son's team.

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

Who stood out at black card this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You are correct. They are an absolute embarrassment at every age. Not to mention they flat out admit that all their kids are a year older than their US grade counterparts. Not sure why they are allowed to come down here and play by their own rules. Have seen their teams resort to goonish behavior time and again when either way behind or even way ahead on the scoreboard. Total joke of an organization.

I know that I probably should know this, but what is this Adrenaline that people keep referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know that I probably should know this, but what is this Adrenaline that people keep referring to?

Big tournament on Long Island aka MadLax's coming out party.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

Where are they playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You know what's more embarrassing? The club you play for - Looney's.

You bring this game up over and over, but I've seen plenty of clown moves from Looney's teams and their uneducated parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You know what's more embarrassing? The club you play for - Looney's.

You bring this game up over and over, but I've seen plenty of clown moves from Looney's teams and their uneducated parents.

As well they should, first I've ever heard of a game being stopped like that. Having watched and played against both teams at 2020 over the past few years I'd have to say that I've never seen that type of behavior from Looney's and have never seen another team that behaved more badly than Edge. This looks like a big event with lots of teams participating...go see for yourselves.

Unless I missed something Crush isn't in the big tournament. Where is this game taking place?

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You know what's more embarrassing? The club you play for - Looney's.

You bring this game up over and over, but I've seen plenty of clown moves from Looney's teams and their uneducated parents.

As well they should, first I've ever heard of a game being stopped like that. Having watched and played against both teams at 2020 over the past few years I'd have to say that I've never seen that type of behavior from Looney's and have never seen another team that behaved more badly than Edge. This looks like a big event with lots of teams participating...go see for yourselves.

We will see this weekend. You might be suprised with the outcome of the 91-Edge game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

"1 Madlax
2 Madlax
3 Madlax
4 Madlax
5 Madlax
6 Madlax
7 Madlax
8 Madlax
9 Madlax
10 Madlax"

A madlax dady answer

I would like to say something as an Edge parent. The blanket statement that all teams are dirty is completely untrue. As for the age thing, do you really want to go there. Our kids play with their grade. At worst they are the same as age as the US counterparts. The 2021 are all kids born in 2003 and I would put our passports out on the field for any parent to see. I am sure that any us team would not do the same thing. Look at the Under Armour roster all the US kids are 2000 for a 2019 team. That makes my son a 2022. You guys must figure it out and play by a system that actually monitors its ages. Our 2021 team will reclassify at some point but will not be a year older but really the same age as your teams. Play by ages we are proud that we are 2003's. Come by and say hello this weekend because its hard to be dirty when you are 6 inches and a year younger than your American counterparts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would like to say something as an Edge parent. The blanket statement that all teams are dirty is completely untrue. As for the age thing, do you really want to go there. Our kids play with their grade. At worst they are the same as age as the US counterparts. The 2021 are all kids born in 2003 and I would put our passports out on the field for any parent to see. I am sure that any us team would not do the same thing. Look at the Under Armour roster all the US kids are 2000 for a 2019 team. That makes my son a 2022. You guys must figure it out and play by a system that actually monitors its ages. Our 2021 team will reclassify at some point but will not be a year older but really the same age as your teams. Play by ages we are proud that we are 2003's. Come by and say hello this weekend because its hard to be dirty when you are 6 inches and a year younger than your American counterparts.

While we can appreciate your feeling singled out, we have had the unlucky experience of playing two age groups of edge and they are by far the dirtiest teams we have encountered in 7 years of playing. Kids needed to be brought by ambulance to the hospital due to your club headhunting. Edge coaches were cheering the kids on. Games were shut down and championships walked away from rather than be subject to that form of play. The kids were a year older at the time due to the pg year expected but regardless of age, the manner of play should warrant their exclusion of from most tournaments.

Looney's parent we played you three times last year and yes the final game was out of hand in the last few minutes. We had one player who lost control but in fairness the referees lost the game early. The fact that your not even playing this weekend at 4HHH playing in a watered down NSCLA event leaves us likely seeing you at the NLF event at boy's latin school nov 6. Enjoy your summer. We changed our coaching staff and are very much looking forward to get a chance if we win our first round match to play crush. We havnet played them since 2011 and think its a great opportunity to measure ourselves against the very best youth team around. In speaking with some of their parents at the adrenaline event they felt the same way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Also left of the fact that crush has several 2000 birth dates, since this is part of the conversation.

I personally do not like crush but they had literally entire squad in WSYL last year minus one player they have NO 2000 birth dates. Other than Crabs and Laxachusetts everyone is respectful of ages, those two should be embarrassed

It is well known that 2020 Edge has several 16 year olds which is despicable. Not surprising as it is advertised on their website and we witnessed it last year first hand.

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I personally do not like crush but they had literally entire squad in WSYL last year minus one player they have NO 2000 birth dates. Other than Crabs and Laxachusetts everyone is respectful of ages, those two should be embarrassed

Is the crush team this summer exactly the same as last? I heard they picked up a couple of reclassed kids this past fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Part 2 of the question, do kids that have already "committed" play in these all-star games, or are they automatically disqualified?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Also left of the fact that crush has several 2000 birth dates, since this is part of the conversation.

Absolute blatant lie

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?
********

1. Crush (by a decent margin)
2. Looney's (won HOCO Elite over Crabs)
3. Laxachusetts (but w/many holdbacks)
4. Crabs (too many holdbacks; lost to Laxachusetts this past weekend, lost to Looney's in HOCO finals, lost to FCA just before playoffs)
5. Annapolis Hawks (Final 4 of HOCO Elite, played Looneys closer than Crabs did in playoffs)
6. FCA (Final 4 HOCO Elite, beat Crabs)
7. Express
8. Team 91 MD Force (1 goal losses to Hawks, FCA and Rising Sons in HOCO; alwyas a tough out)
9. Leading Edge
10...(Edge, West Coast Starz, Next Level Black, Palm Beach Revolution, HHH, Rising Sons)

Lesser known teams to watch: Carolina Cannons, Team 24/7, 757 Select (VA)

Bottom Line: LOTS of very good lacrosse teams and players at 2020 level.

edge has 16 year olds? The boys all have their passports happy for anyone to challenge that bs quote come over and ask us. 75% of our team are 14 still ..out of 22 playing this weekend 5 turned 15 already but all have 2001 birth year. look for your scapegoats elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?
********

1. Crush (by a decent margin)
2. Looney's (won HOCO Elite over Crabs)
3. Laxachusetts (but w/many holdbacks)
4. Crabs (too many holdbacks; lost to Laxachusetts this past weekend, lost to Looney's in HOCO finals, lost to FCA just before playoffs)
5. Annapolis Hawks (Final 4 of HOCO Elite, played Looneys closer than Crabs did in playoffs)
6. FCA (Final 4 HOCO Elite, beat Crabs)
7. Express
8. Team 91 MD Force (1 goal losses to Hawks, FCA and Rising Sons in HOCO; alwyas a tough out)
9. Leading Edge
10...(Edge, West Coast Starz, Next Level Black, Palm Beach Revolution, HHH, Rising Sons)

Lesser known teams to watch: Carolina Cannons, Team 24/7, 757 Select (VA)

Bottom Line: LOTS of very good lacrosse teams and players at 2020 level.

Good list, would add Tomahawks in there somewhere too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?
********

1. Crush (by a decent margin)
2. Looney's (won HOCO Elite over Crabs)
3. Laxachusetts (but w/many holdbacks)
4. Crabs (too many holdbacks; lost to Laxachusetts this past weekend, lost to Looney's in HOCO finals, lost to FCA just before playoffs)
5. Annapolis Hawks (Final 4 of HOCO Elite, played Looneys closer than Crabs did in playoffs)
6. FCA (Final 4 HOCO Elite, beat Crabs)
7. Express
8. Team 91 MD Force (1 goal losses to Hawks, FCA and Rising Sons in HOCO; alwyas a tough out)
9. Leading Edge
10...(Edge, West Coast Starz, Next Level Black, Palm Beach Revolution, HHH, Rising Sons)

Lesser known teams to watch: Carolina Cannons, Team 24/7, 757 Select (VA)

Bottom Line: LOTS of very good lacrosse teams and players at 2020 level.

This looks like a pretty good ranking. more will be determined this weekend the rest of the summer

"5 turned 15 already"... wow... yeah, no advantage there at all. cant wait for you to have to go join the '19's if these rules get enforced next summer... or ever

So you just admitted your entire team is holdbacks. Pathetic. Not even the crabs can claim that.

Why lie about it like the rest do. When we played WCS Blue 2019 they had 99's on their team. Cant wait for proof of birth currently we play 2000/2001 in our own leagues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

edge has 16 year olds? The boys all have their passports happy for anyone to challenge that bs quote come over and ask us. 75% of our team are 14 still ..out of 22 playing this weekend 5 turned 15 already but all have 2001 birth year. look for your scapegoats elsewhere.

I am going to start by saying I already know the answer. Are you telling me there are NO 16 year old players on the 2020 edge team? Drum roll, please dont lie

EDGE 2020...this is a chance to clean up your act, if possible.
worst play ever seen in youth lacrosse!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Part 2 of the question, do kids that have already "committed" play in these all-star games, or are they automatically disqualified?

The coaches may be asked who to look out for on their team. This does not guarantee them a spot. It only puts a "watch out for" this 3 or 4 kids. The event organizers and college coaches ultimately make the selections. Club coach has little to do with it beyond here are our top 4-6 kids keep an eye on them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Also left of the fact that crush has several 2000 birth dates, since this is part of the conversation.

Absolute blatant lie

So they didn't take two holdbacks on the team this year to add to at least two others they all ready had? C'mon you know it's true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Part 2 of the question, do kids that have already "committed" play in these all-star games, or are they automatically disqualified?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Part 2 of the question, do kids that have already "committed" play in these all-star games, or are they automatically disqualified?

The coaches may be asked who to look out for on their team. This does not guarantee them a spot. It only puts a "watch out for" this 3 or 4 kids. The event organizers and college coaches ultimately make the selections. Club coach has little to do with it beyond here are our top 4-6 kids keep an eye on them.

You should also note that kids bail or kids get hurt and they update the roster for the coaches. Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You know what's more embarrassing? The club you play for - Looney's.

You bring this game up over and over, but I've seen plenty of clown moves from Looney's teams and their uneducated parents.

As well they should, first I've ever heard of a game being stopped like that. Having watched and played against both teams at 2020 over the past few years I'd have to say that I've never seen that type of behavior from Looney's and have never seen another team that behaved more badly than Edge. This looks like a big event with lots of teams participating...go see for yourselves.

We will see this weekend. You might be suprised with the outcome of the 91-Edge game.

We are much more concerned with the conduct of the game than the outcome...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy

No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Also left of the fact that crush has several 2000 birth dates, since this is part of the conversation.

Absolute blatant lie

So they didn't take two holdbacks on the team this year to add to at least two others they all ready had? C'mon you know it's true!

Not even close to any 2000 birthdates on Crush...lol...I guess people have to make up some new stuff since they have been saying that kind of garbage for years... my favorite is "wait until EVERYONE ELSE in 2020 catches up" ...lol stiiiiillll waitingggg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.

yes we are playing you on Saturday!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Such a great team but Crush is on another level

Such a great team according to who and on what distorted scale of greatness is that? They went 2-3 this weekend correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Such a great team but Crush is on another level

Such a great team according to who and on what distorted scale of greatness is that? They went 2-3 this weekend correct?

To say such a great team is a bit much, but they're as good as the other top teams ex-Crush (but Crush only plays starters, especially attack, which is real difference maker with the two best attackmen out there).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Such a great team but Crush is on another level

Such a great team according to who and on what distorted scale of greatness is that? They went 2-3 this weekend correct?

To say such a great team is a bit much, but they're as good as the other top teams ex-Crush (but Crush only plays starters, especially attack, which is real difference maker with the two best attackmen out there).

So is the new holdback middie not a 2000 birthdate? I've heard from multiple people on the sidelines that he is. Just want to know the truth, don't care if he is or isn't as there aren't rules against it (see Crabs and Laxachusetts rosters).

YES. FACT. Huntington kid.

Also know express 2020 has 3 2000 birth dates they are not innocent in this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also know express 2020 has 3 2000 birth dates they are not innocent in this

That's not true at all. Express has a few 2001 birthdates but they don't have ANY 2000s. Would be willing to bet a lot on this one.

US lacrosse Age for 2020 is born after September 1, 2001.

If your child was born prior he should be 2019.

If your child was born prior to September 1, 2000 and plays 2020
it is ridiculous. And the parent should be liable when his little man hurts someone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US lacrosse Age for 2020 is born after September 1, 2001.

If your child was born prior he should be 2019.

If your child was born prior to September 1, 2000 and plays 2020
it is ridiculous. And the parent should be liable when his little man hurts someone.

Oh Come on ! Then my little rock star won't stand out for all those early recruiters to see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 2020. What happened at adrenaline ?

Lost to Crush in the semi finals 9-4

Beat Leading Edge 10-4 in quarterfinals after losing to them yesterday

Such a great team but Crush is on another level

Such a great team according to who and on what distorted scale of greatness is that? They went 2-3 this weekend correct?

Agreed not a bad team, but OK

If your a fully developed kid turning 16 and you don't look good against an undeveloped 14 year old then you suk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US lacrosse Age for 2020 is born after September 1, 2001.

If your child was born prior he should be 2019.

If your child was born prior to September 1, 2000 and plays 2020
it is ridiculous. And the parent should be liable when his little man hurts someone.

Same parents who think someone will get hurt are the same parents who want their kids to play varsity lacrosse...

Not the same thing. 16 year olds on an 8th grade youth lacrosse team is absurd. We are not talking about high school sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

US lacrosse Age for 2020 is born after September 1, 2001.

If your child was born prior he should be 2019.

If your child was born prior to September 1, 2000 and plays 2020
it is ridiculous. And the parent should be liable when his little man hurts someone.

Same parents who think someone will get hurt are the same parents who want their kids to play varsity lacrosse...

Sorry I disagree, while I hope one day my son plays varsity lacrosse, at this moment in 8th grade he is an undersized, physically not mature, age appropriate (born 6/2002) 2020 player who doesn't need to be playing against kids 2 years older at this point in time. Again and I've said it before, generally speaking baseball gets it right, where the above average players, play up an age level or two. But here in lacrosse somehow playing down will get you noticed ?

Back to rankings...it seems to be the general consensus that Crush is the #1 2020 team by a fairly wide margin until proven otherwise.

My question: WHY are they so much better? Would be interesting to get a few opinions on what makes them so good. Anything that other teams could learn from? My top reasons...

1. The way they play (style of play). They are almost never the biggest, fastest or strongest team on the field. But they move the ball really, really well. High lacrosse IQ, unselfish play, most goals are assisted, and great off-ball movement. This is much tougher to defend than the typical middie isolation dodge followed by a 10-yard rip that you see from lots of 2020 teams.
2. They've been playing together so long. The core group of kids have obviously been playing together a long time, and it shows. They anticipate what teammates are going to do and have great team chemistry. This feeds their style of play.
3. They work harder. I have heard that they practice much more than the typical 2x per week during tournament season that you see from many clubs. But not sure if that's true. I'm sure it doesn't hurt to be around the likes of Rabil and Pannell and the NY Lizards, and see how hard they work.
4. Concentration of talent on Long Island. LI has 2 elite teams, where Baltimore metro area has at least 5 (Looneys, Crabs, FAC, Hawks, Team 91 MD Force). Would the Baltimore area produce a comparably dominant team if they concentrated that talent to only 2 teams? Not sure.

Other thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Back to rankings...it seems to be the general consensus that Crush is the #1 2020 team by a fairly wide margin until proven otherwise.

My question: WHY are they so much better? Would be interesting to get a few opinions on what makes them so good. Anything that other teams could learn from? My top reasons...

1. The way they play (style of play). They are almost never the biggest, fastest or strongest team on the field. But they move the ball really, really well. High lacrosse IQ, unselfish play, most goals are assisted, and great off-ball movement. This is much tougher to defend than the typical middie isolation dodge followed by a 10-yard rip that you see from lots of 2020 teams.
2. They've been playing together so long. The core group of kids have obviously been playing together a long time, and it shows. They anticipate what teammates are going to do and have great team chemistry. This feeds their style of play.
3. They work harder. I have heard that they practice much more than the typical 2x per week during tournament season that you see from many clubs. But not sure if that's true. I'm sure it doesn't hurt to be around the likes of Rabil and Pannell and the NY Lizards, and see how hard they work.
4. Concentration of talent on Long Island. LI has 2 elite teams, where Baltimore metro area has at least 5 (Looneys, Crabs, FAC, Hawks, Team 91 MD Force). Would the Baltimore area produce a comparably dominant team if they concentrated that talent to only 2 teams? Not sure.

Other thoughts?

Opinion but I'm surely widely shared PoV - they have the two best attackman by a wide margin, and the "big lefty" has been dominant since they were 10 years old. If you took those two kids and put them on any other high quality team then that would be the new best team. They are very strong at all other positions but those two are clear difference makers.

Agree with this comment - very talented team but the big lefty attackman and the speedy other attackman are the difference makers - take any of the 2 off the team and its a different team, esp the lefty. Furthermore, the team practices a lot and has practiced a lot for many years - obviously they have top level coaches. Finally, the pool of talented teams on LI for that year is not as strong as other years - i.e. the 2021s have Icon and Igloo plus the usual susepects; same with 2022s, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also know express 2020 has 3 2000 birth dates they are not innocent in this

that is 2 years down. Sept 2000 is 2018?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also know express 2020 has 3 2000 birth dates they are not innocent in this

that is 2 years down. Sept 2000 is 2018?

2000 is 2018. Correct.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Also know express 2020 has 3 2000 birth dates they are not innocent in this

that is 2 years down. Sept 2000 is 2018?

2000 is 2018. Correct.

In MD and PA 9-1-2000 to 8-31-2001 is 2019. (Many private schools ignore this but that is the official state public school rule)

thanks scoop

Yeah but it does matter. So many of these kids arent so much better as they are just bigger and stronger. It is cheating.....but such is life.

YES. FACT. Huntington kid. [/quot

NOT FACT: Middie does not have a 2000 birthday.

Reclassifying for lacrosse is lame. Maybe your kid will get recruited early to Hopkins, UNC and UVA - wow. He can then ride the pine once he gets there when on age kids who are more skilled because they played against Holdbacks eat his lunch. Hope the one or two years of private school tuition was worth it. He can always go work for Ty Xanders or be a stringer at Lacrosse unlimited if the MLL doesn't pan out.

If you want to BE better, play up. If you want to LOOK better, play down.

It sounds like Yoda is on the site. We better all shape up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassifying for lacrosse is lame. Maybe your kid will get recruited early to Hopkins, UNC and UVA - wow. He can then ride the pine once he gets there when on age kids who are more skilled because they played against Holdbacks eat his lunch. Hope the one or two years of private school tuition was worth it. He can always go work for Ty Xanders or be a stringer at Lacrosse unlimited if the MLL doesn't pan out.

Nothing impressive about a 15 year old blowing up 13 year olds. Not in lacrosee, not in any sport. College lacrosee coaches seem to drink it in, but they're not the Mensa crowd to begin with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want to BE better, play up. If you want to LOOK better, play down.

And out of all the major youth sports, lacrosse seems to be the only one that seems to have this issue. (Although I'm sure someone will come up with examples elsewhere)

Best simplified view yet!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want to BE better, play up. If you want to LOOK better, play down.

"YES. FACT. Huntington kid. [/quot

NOT FACT: Middie does not have a 2000 birthday."

He has been 15 for a number of months. Fact. Common guy, give it up... tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"YES. FACT. Huntington kid. [/quot

NOT FACT: Middie does not have a 2000 birthday."

He has been 15 for a number of months. Fact. Common guy, give it up... tool.

So 15 year old IS playing against 13 year olds. Sweet!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best simplified view yet!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want to BE better, play up. If you want to LOOK better, play down.

Couldn't agree more !!

Big 4 recognizes that Madlax 2020 is improving. Madlax is one of the 10 seeded teams and there are 12 teams that have to win a playin in order to play a seeded team.

Shows that the people who know lacrosse know a lot more than the dads on this board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 recognizes that Madlax 2020 is improving. Madlax is one of the 10 seeded teams and there are 12 teams that have to win a playin in order to play a seeded team.

Shows that the people who know lacrosse know a lot more than the dads on this board.

Funny, I only see 6 teams with a bye, and if Madlax loses to Eclipse in first game they're relegated to losers bracket by 9:30 Sat. morning. The 12 teams playing Friday night are 'Friendly' games, and have no bearing on the brackets. But hey, if going 0-4 at Adrenaline before beating the 0-5 Prime Time team is your definition of improving, then yes run with that.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best simplified view yet!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want to BE better, play up. If you want to LOOK better, play down.

Couldn't agree more !!

Truth

Crush never had any hold backs. They have always been age appropriate. There is no way the coaching would allow for "several 2000s". Pathetic with the excuses you people come up with.

Big 4 recognizes that Madlax 2020 is improving. Madlax is one of the 10 seeded teams and there are 12 teams that have to win a playin in order to play a seeded team.

Shows that the people who know lacrosse know a lot more than the dads on this board.
************

Um, no. Madlax isn't "seeded" and has to win an 8:50am game vs. Eclipse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush never had any hold backs. They have always been age appropriate. There is no way the coaching would allow for "several 2000s". Pathetic with the excuses you people come up with.

They took two older kids this year that have reclassified. Fact , they both played 2019 last year! Everyone knows it, you look worse by defending what is a clear lie. Is it really your position that this didn't happen?

Crush, really. How bout now?

Crush will disband after the 5 kids they care about commit.

They have had mostly the same roster for years but have added just like express a few kids that were in program at older age that reclassed Far different than the crab Laxachusetts model

"YES. FACT. Huntington kid. [/quot

NOT FACT: Middie does not have a 2000 birthday."

He has been 15 for a number of months. Fact. Common guy, give it up... tool.
[/quote] So 15 year old IS playing against 13 year olds. Sweet!

I don't have a dog in this fight, but am always amazed at the frustration and anxiety this issue causes. To the point, where most will distort the facts. Am I wrong, but aren't most of the 2002's that are rising Freshmen 14 now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 recognizes that Madlax 2020 is improving. Madlax is one of the 10 seeded teams and there are 12 teams that have to win a playin in order to play a seeded team.

Shows that the people who know lacrosse know a lot more than the dads on this board.

Funny, I only see 6 teams with a bye, and if Madlax loses to Eclipse in first game they're relegated to losers bracket by 9:30 Sat. morning. The 12 teams playing Friday night are 'Friendly' games, and have no bearing on the brackets. But hey, if going 0-4 at Adrenaline before beating the 0-5 Prime Time team is your definition of improving, then yes run with that.....

Wrong, numbnuts. There are 12 teams playing in 6 playin games on Saturday. Those teams have to win their game to make the playoffs. 10 teams don't have to play that extra game, which includes Madlax.

Proof that the people who really know lacrosse have Madlax in the Top 10 in the country.

The country... that is very funny. You are delusional, but nevertheless enjoy your weekend. Look forward to you recapping the weekend exploits of MADLAX and your next feel good proclamation...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big 4 recognizes that Madlax 2020 is improving. Madlax is one of the 10 seeded teams and there are 12 teams that have to win a playin in order to play a seeded team.

Shows that the people who know lacrosse know a lot more than the dads on this board.

Funny, I only see 6 teams with a bye, and if Madlax loses to Eclipse in first game they're relegated to losers bracket by 9:30 Sat. morning. The 12 teams playing Friday night are 'Friendly' games, and have no bearing on the brackets. But hey, if going 0-4 at Adrenaline before beating the 0-5 Prime Time team is your definition of improving, then yes run with that.....

Wrong, numbnuts. There are 12 teams playing in 6 playin games on Saturday. Those teams have to win their game to make the playoffs. 10 teams don't have to play that extra game, which includes Madlax.

Proof that the people who really know lacrosse have Madlax in the Top 10 in the country.

Absolutely love the crazy Madlax guy! Not sure if he is really Madlax or not but keep it going dude.

You are correct, most rising Freshman are already 14, unless their birthday is between today and Nov 30th (in NYS), then they would still be 13yrs old

Went 12-2 last week here goes
At 3d
3d New England over next level
PBR over eclipse
C2C nat over bbl
Lb3 nat over 3d tri state
24/7 over upstate
Mesa over prime time
Leading edge over express north
3d tri state over upstate
PBR over Mesa
Edge2 over next level
Lb3 nat over prime time
C2C nat over 3d NE
24/7 over bbl
Eclipse over madlax
At NCSLA
Resolute over cavalier
Looneys over thunder
Sons over true north (can)
Rough riders over patriot
Thunder over cavalier
Outlaws over roadhawks
True north (can) over resolute
Looneys over patriot
Tomahawks over Denver
Hawks over true
Sons over roadhawks
Rough riders over outlaws
True north over cavalier
Looneys over resolute
Hawks over Denver
Tomahawks over true
Thunder over rough riders
Patriot over roadhawks
Sons over outlaws
Denver over true
Hawks over tomahawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will disband after the 5 kids they care about commit.

That team will never disband. they will always remain a mainstay.

What will happen is it will get a bit more difficult as their HS will want them at their games and they will attend more individual showcase style events. On top of that the HS season is a bit more of a grind than you can imagine for a 13year old.

I wouldn't say it is a disbandment but I think they will play a more limited tournament schedule.

when do most towns JV programs start? hearing some have started in Nassau practicing, and also hearing other start in the fall. Just looking for any info. Kid is only in 7th grade but i though maybe you guys have some info. Thanks for any info.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will disband after the 5 kids they care about commit.

That team will never disband. they will always remain a mainstay.

That was what the Tenacious Turtles used to say. Difference is all the Turtles would end up committing somewhere. With Crush, there's a huge dropoff after the 5 kids that they care about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will disband after the 5 kids they care about commit.

That team will never disband. they will always remain a mainstay.

What will happen is it will get a bit more difficult as their HS will want them at their games and they will attend more individual showcase style events. On top of that the HS season is a bit more of a grind than you can imagine for a 13year old.

I wouldn't say it is a disbandment but I think they will play a more limited tournament schedule.

BINGO ! nothing going to happen to that team unfortunately lol they will be visible less but will be strong as ever. College coaches that commit these players want the kids to keep playing and developing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reclassifying for lacrosse is lame. Maybe your kid will get recruited early to Hopkins, UNC and UVA - wow. He can then ride the pine once he gets there when on age kids who are more skilled because they played against Holdbacks eat his lunch. Hope the one or two years of private school tuition was worth it. He can always go work for Ty Xanders or be a stringer at Lacrosse unlimited if the MLL doesn't pan out.

The reason you go to NCAA is to get a great education not so that you go play in the MLL. If you play in the MLL then great for you, but it probably wont happen. If you reclass and you commit to a great school then you could be set for life. Who cares about the lacrosse side of this. Lacrosse is a gateway to go to a top academic school, and get a great job after school.

And because your son couldn't compete with other kids his age you had to resort to cheating to get him there. What a fine parent you are...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And because your son couldn't compete with other kids his age you had to resort to cheating to get him there. What a fine parent you are...

News alert. College coaches are just looking for the best kids in each class. They couldn't care less what the age is.

The only people who care are certain parents. Happens in every sport (football, basketball, etc.)

Chill out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And because your son couldn't compete with other kids his age you had to resort to cheating to get him there. What a fine parent you are...

News alert. College coaches are just looking for the best kids in each class. They couldn't care less what the age is.

The only people who care are certain parents. Happens in every sport (football, basketball, etc.)

Chill out.

I asked a d1 head assistant wether he cared if a recruit was a year older the his grade peers. His answer was he'd rather have the kid 19-23 as opposed to 18-22.

Sure you did. If my kid is 17 and has one arm and one leg but is a lacrosse phenom they could give a rats [lacrosse] about if he is younger. Keep telling yourself that reclassing is the way to get ahead. In the end - talent wins...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure you did. If my kid is 17 and has one arm and one leg but is a lacrosse phenom they could give a rats [lacrosse] about if he is younger. Keep telling yourself that reclassing is the way to get ahead. In the end - talent wins...

And the older kid will often have more talent...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And because your son couldn't compete with other kids his age you had to resort to cheating to get him there. What a fine parent you are...

News alert. College coaches are just looking for the best kids in each class. They couldn't care less what the age is.

The only people who care are certain parents. Happens in every sport (football, basketball, etc.)

Chill out.

I asked a d1 head assistant wether he cared if a recruit was a year older the his grade peers. His answer was he'd rather have the kid 19-23 as opposed to 18-22.

My son was recruited as a somewhat small 9th grader playing up on a varsity age summer team. All the big schools came after him and he got a lot of money! I say play up, not down and you will get attention!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And because your son couldn't compete with other kids his age you had to resort to cheating to get him there. What a fine parent you are...

News alert. College coaches are just looking for the best kids in each class. They couldn't care less what the age is.

The only people who care are certain parents. Happens in every sport (football, basketball, etc.)

Chill out.

I asked a d1 head assistant wether he cared if a recruit was a year older the his grade peers. His answer was he'd rather have the kid 19-23 as opposed to 18-22.

My son was recruited as a somewhat small 9th grader playing up on a varsity age summer team. All the big schools came after him and he got a lot of money! I say play up, not down and you will get attention!

Awesome, but seems like exception to the rule. Travel teams all flock to the bigger (i.e. older) kids. The difference between many A and B teams is as much size as skill. I am not holding Ty Xanders or Recruiting Rundown out as the be all end all, but any time they do write ups on players one of the first comments is about size. At many of these showacases the coaches make no bones about saying they want the biggest, strongest kids. None of these club teams care about holdbacks either. that is because they all feel they need holdbacks to bebale to hang with their competitors. Edge Ontario, Crabs, etc, are all loaded with older kids, so how else can you hope to beat them? It is not rocket science. Now if you have a kid who isn't physically mature and is age appropriate with some skill it can be very, very frustrating. However, cheating is rampant and actively encouraged by everyone in leadership positions in this game. Sorry, but it is what it is.

Ty Xanders is on the take just like the rest of these folks that live off the early recruiting feeding frenzy. I cannot imagine for one second that any coach worth his salt takes Xanders and his college interns word on any player. It's all about the money with these clowns and the coaches know it.

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

How did the face offs go for Crush! wcs kid a beast !!

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

Not a good showing for taz at all. Parents were irate on sideline.

There is a lot of good lacrosse at these tournament going on recently. Anyone want to try a put together a top 10?

Team ninety one
Looney's
West coast stars
Laxachussets
FCA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
NH Tomahawks
Express
Rising Sons
Leading edge
Edge lacrosse

Why bother listing Crabs? Irrelevant. Essentially a 2019/18 team full of holbacks that can barely beat on age teams. Gig is up for fat crab. Multiple on age teams are more talented.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

We watched Taz play today. They did not look good. Very unorganized and did not seem to gel as a team. They played more like a glorified PAL team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team ninety one
Looney's
West coast stars
Laxachussets
FCA
Annapolis Hawks
Crabs
NH Tomahawks
Express
Rising Sons
Leading edge
Edge lacrosse

Pretty much agree with the list, Crush by 6 to 10 goals on any given day Looney's very good and West Coast stars will continue to be very competitive Crabs falling fast

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

Not a good showing for taz at all. Parents were irate on sideline.

Legacy Taz is a shadow of a team from last year it seems. The parents were screaming like classless a-holes during the Igloo game and really should be embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

We watched Taz play today. They did not look good. Very unorganized and did not seem to gel as a team. They played more like a glorified PAL team.

Not very glorified!! This team was one of the top teams in the country last year. What the heck happened?

2020 midfielder from PA to Maryland terps

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

....they also lost to Igloo which then lost to the Express B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

Not a good showing for taz at all. Parents were irate on sideline.

Legacy Taz is a shadow of a team from last year it seems. The parents were screaming like classless a-holes during the Igloo game and really should be embarrassed.

Maybe their unbelievably arrogant head coach's swollen head will shrink.

Igloo 2020 8th grade team beat Legacy Taz in LI Laxfest not the Igloo 7th grade team.

Igloo 2020 8th grade team beat Legacy Taz at LI Laxfest not the Igloo 7th grade team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo 2020 8th grade team beat Legacy Taz at LI Laxfest not the Igloo 7th grade team.

That's even more embarrasing! That's what happens when too many politically connected parents convince to not too bright coach that their son should be on the field at all times!

Ok you may have a point Crabs didn't even make it to the semifinals but top 4. They lost 18-2 in the semifinals didn't even give Crush a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

Not a good showing for taz at all. Parents were irate on sideline.

Legacy Taz is a shadow of a team from last year it seems. The parents were screaming like classless a-holes during the Igloo game and really should be embarrassed.

They were screaming at their own coach. News flash if your kid didn't see field in farmingdale he is not touching field in Denver.

Maybe their unbelievably arrogant head coach's swollen head will shrink.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 midfielder from PA to Maryland terps

What club does he play for?

Other bracket was much deeper based on actual talent not reputation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

You funny! I am pretty sure you are joking but just in case...at Adrenaline they were outscored 34-6 in pool play, the only game they won was in the consolation game against the team who did not beat anyone. At Big 4, they beat two middle of the pack A teams. In their last two tournaments they have not gotten within 5 goals of any of the better teams. There were (at least) 5 teams at Big 4 that they could never touch and a bunch more at other tournaments as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 midfielder from PA to Maryland terps

What club does he play for?

I believe Freedom Lax.

Anyone else get a headache from that little madman screaming DELETED at the top of his lungs whenever Taz played...

Madlax 2020 as a top 5 team? You cannot be serious. All of the teams in HOCO elite are SIGNIFICANTLY better, then add in 91 Crush, NH Tomahawks, Laxachusetts, etc. - sorry - I don't see it.

Great lacrosse all over this weekend. Express was off looks like everyone else played. Taz had a really rough weekend by the looks of the scores. West Coast Starz met Crush in Finals at big 4. No real shockers at that event. Maybe madlax thinking their good is the only shocker. Looneys won their event, beat hawks than rising sons in championshp. rising sons beat Tomahawks to get in. Crabs lost yet again. Leading Edge up and down. BBL with good win over HHH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great lacrosse all over this weekend. Express was off looks like everyone else played. Taz had a really rough weekend by the looks of the scores. West Coast Starz met Crush in Finals at big 4. No real shockers at that event. Maybe madlax thinking their good is the only shocker. Looneys won their event, beat hawks than rising sons in championshp. rising sons beat Tomahawks to get in. Crabs lost yet again. Leading Edge up and down. BBL with good win over HHH.

Then Madlax with good win over BBL.

An FYI to all lax clubs that may play the 2020 Skipjacks club from the south shore of MA. They played down a division (B) as their own website rates the team as their A team. Beat up 4 weaker B teams, finally had better competition in the playoffs as you would expect. In watching the semi-finals I witnessed the most classless display of lacrosse. A Player who's birth certificate should be challenged with average skill lower his shoulder to run through smaller and lighter players as if he was a football running back. He scored a point blank goal and proceeded to thrust his hips (you know what I mean here) back and forth in the goalie face on the crease. As the parents yelled for an unsportsmanlike/taunting penalty which the refs didn't call he was congratulated by his team running of the field and proceeded to raise both middle fingers to the parents sideline. His coaches did nothing. This program should be ashamed of itself. Goalie is the hardest position in lacrosse and should be respected above all other players. Players should be taught to respect others on the field and win with class and lose with class. This program owes the tournament an apology for sandbagging the division and displaying the most classless and unsportsmanlike display of Lacrosse I have seen in 35+ years as a player, coach and parent. I considered writing to the program but realized this would do nothing, providing this feedback on BOTC will be far greater an avenue to alert all the other programs of be aware of this programs behavior. Missed in all this is IF this was witnessed by a college coach this program and players have done serious damage to their image and only have themselves to blame.

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

I wasn't sure of the grade/team but we were set up next to field 3 and saw this display (the hip thrusts and the middle fingers), it was against the All-Greys - we used it as a lesson for our 4th graders on what not to do. If that was 8th grade lacrosse we are all in trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great lacrosse all over this weekend. Express was off looks like everyone else played. Taz had a really rough weekend by the looks of the scores. West Coast Starz met Crush in Finals at big 4. No real shockers at that event. Maybe madlax thinking their good is the only shocker. Looneys won their event, beat hawks than rising sons in championshp. rising sons beat Tomahawks to get in. Crabs lost yet again. Leading Edge up and down. BBL with good win over HHH.

Then Madlax with good win over BBL.

Same BBL that was 2-6 in NXT league and 0-4 at NLF? C'mon MadLax give us a break.

skipjacks were a pulling that stuff all day. they would have been smoked beans in the A bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone else get a headache from that little madman screaming DELETEDat the top of his lungs whenever Taz played...

Yes. From him as well as other Taz parents. They were worked up this weekend.

Gotta love the Crabfeast 2020 Brackets. RM games the system any way he can. Cakewalk bracket for Crabs. Looneys get NH Tomahawks, Hawks get LI Express, Crabs get Resolute. Looneys outscored Resolute 29-3 in two games this past weekend.

It wasn't 8th grade lacrosse... It looked to be 9th-10th grade age playing down in the 8th grade bracket because they can't compete at their appropriate age level. Pathetic. I bet their parents are very proud. Props to All Greys for rising above it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great lacrosse all over this weekend. Express was off looks like everyone else played. Taz had a really rough weekend by the looks of the scores. West Coast Starz met Crush in Finals at big 4. No real shockers at that event. Maybe madlax thinking their good is the only shocker. Looneys won their event, beat hawks than rising sons in championshp. rising sons beat Tomahawks to get in. Crabs lost yet again. Leading Edge up and down. BBL with good win over HHH.

Then Madlax with good win over BBL.

Same BBL that was 2-6 in NXT league and 0-4 at NLF? C'mon MadLax give us a break.

Same HHH too.

PB Revolution gave Crabs all they could handle at Big 4 HHH last weekend. Crabs won by one goal but game could have gone either way.

91 is not entered in the 2020 Div at all. Am I missing something ?

PB Revolution lost to HHH. Which was the only game HHH won. I seriously doubt the crabs played their starters much if at all in that game. You really shouldn't come on here guns ablazing when your team is average at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

....they also lost to Igloo which then lost to the Express B team.

Igloo is a solid team as is the Express second team. Having played them both i think some of those kids are interchangeable with the Express A team kids. Express B just seems to be a little more inconsistent in play as is Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

....they also lost to Igloo which then lost to the Express B team.

Igloo is a solid team as is the Express second team. Having played them both i think some of those kids are interchangeable with the Express A team kids. Express B just seems to be a little more inconsistent in play as is Igloo.

The results from this weekend makes it look like Legacy A and Legacy B are very similar teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

listen this 2020 division is very good all around. BBL lost to Looneys by 1. Anything can happen. some teams play some teams tough all the time. BBL is a very good team. Do you really have to be in the top 5 to be good? There are at least 15 top 2020 teams. Crush is an anomaly. Looneys is next because of their face off guy and then there are 10 that can beat each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

....they also lost to Igloo which then lost to the Express B team.

Igloo is a solid team as is the Express second team. Having played them both i think some of those kids are interchangeable with the Express A team kids. Express B just seems to be a little more inconsistent in play as is Igloo.

The results from this weekend makes it look like Legacy A and Legacy B are very similar teams.

Taz and the B team in the same travel group that Taz is a part of are very similar in talent level now. Taz lost their best player from last year to The Terps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz lost to a 7th grade team

....they also lost to Igloo which then lost to the Express B team.

Igloo is a solid team as is the Express second team. Having played them both i think some of those kids are interchangeable with the Express A team kids. Express B just seems to be a little more inconsistent in play as is Igloo.

The results from this weekend makes it look like Legacy A and Legacy B are very similar teams.

Taz and the B team in the same travel group that Taz is a part of are very similar in talent level now. Taz lost their best player from last year to The Terps.

Which one , the one loosing f/os and throwing tantrums?

Wait wait wait Legacy B went further than Taz Bhahaha hahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

listen this 2020 division is very good all around. BBL lost to Looneys by 1. Anything can happen. some teams play some teams tough all the time. BBL is a very good team. Do you really have to be in the top 5 to be good? There are at least 15 top 2020 teams. Crush is an anomaly. Looneys is next because of their face off guy and then there are 10 that can beat each other.

They only won by one because the face off kid wasn't there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is not entered in the 2020 Div at all. Am I missing something ?

Isn't coach taking a team to WSYL again? Would guess focus is on that right now.

UA not bad in selectings the Command team. Outside of ONE GLARING pick. Why take him and not a middie.

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is not entered in the 2020 Div at all. Am I missing something ?

Isn't coach taking a team to WSYL again? Would guess focus is on that right now.

2020 kids go8ng as 2021 team oh yeah that's right it's a birthrate thing. Way to stoop to the low ground of ethics.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

listen this 2020 division is very good all around. BBL lost to Looneys by 1. Anything can happen. some teams play some teams tough all the time. BBL is a very good team. Do you really have to be in the top 5 to be good? There are at least 15 top 2020 teams. Crush is an anomaly. Looneys is next because of their face off guy and then there are 10 that can beat each other.

So that makes it at least 12 teams that Madlax can't beat.

He was there Mr. Flogo was 100% there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

listen this 2020 division is very good all around. BBL lost to Looneys by 1. Anything can happen. some teams play some teams tough all the time. BBL is a very good team. Do you really have to be in the top 5 to be good? There are at least 15 top 2020 teams. Crush is an anomaly. Looneys is next because of their face off guy and then there are 10 that can beat each other.

They only won by one because the face off kid wasn't there

So did the Crush - Edge Canada game happen as advertised?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

I see that comment and raise you a, Thought you had to show up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

I see that comment and raise you a, Thought you had to show up.

now that is funny. Sad, but true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did the Crush - Edge Canada game happen as advertised?

No Edge didn't make it past Primetime to play Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

This is unbelievable. Forget the fact that Madlax went 1-4 at Platinum Cup, beating the only winless team there (PrimeTime).

They had a layup to the semis, beating a mediocre Eclipse team and then a BBL team that lost to PrimeTime.

You guys are as crazy as your club owner.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He was there Mr. Flogo was 100% there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, BBL is weak... keep grasping Mad Lax guy...

listen this 2020 division is very good all around. BBL lost to Looneys by 1. Anything can happen. some teams play some teams tough all the time. BBL is a very good team. Do you really have to be in the top 5 to be good? There are at least 15 top 2020 teams. Crush is an anomaly. Looneys is next because of their face off guy and then there are 10 that can beat each other.

They only won by one because the face off kid wasn't there

Looneys beat bbl 13 to 2 in the spring without fogo. Beat theme 8 to 3 2 weeks (not by 1). It was also their 4th game of day and they rested the guys who made all star game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait wait wait Legacy B went further than Taz Bhahaha hahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait wait wait Legacy B went further than Taz Bhahaha hahaha

Taz is falling apart, they are following in the Commando's footsteps. Organization will be lucky to field 1 2020 team next year.

No Edge Crush...Edge pooped the bed against Primetime. They would have lost by at least 7-10 goals. Crush are off the charts good. Saw a back pass to back pass to back shot and goal. That reminded me of the Harlem Globetrotters. Hopefully we at Edge get to play them one day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

This is unbelievable. Forget the fact that Madlax went 1-4 at Platinum Cup, beating the only winless team there (PrimeTime).

They had a layup to the semis, beating a mediocre Eclipse team and then a BBL team that lost to PrimeTime.

You guys are as crazy as your club owner.

Primetime are a pretty good team. They only lost by 11-2 to Crush and 9-6 to Crabs

Express North played well at HHH beat leading edge and lost to crabs by one

Can't believe Legacy b went further than Taz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't believe Legacy b went further than Taz

They were in a weaker bracket

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

Did any 2020 players make the Under Armour Team ?

yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can't believe Legacy b went further than Taz

They were in a weaker bracket

They were both in the A bracket.

Taz lost one game by 1 goal the first tournament of season and you have already predicted the team is falling apart?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

This is unbelievable. Forget the fact that Madlax went 1-4 at Platinum Cup, beating the only winless team there (PrimeTime).

They had a layup to the semis, beating a mediocre Eclipse team and then a BBL team that lost to PrimeTime.

You guys are as crazy as your club owner.

Primetime are a pretty good team. They only lost by 11-2 to Crush and 9-6 to Crabs

They went 0-5 at Platinum Cup. They lost to Madlax, who went 1-4. Please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

This is unbelievable. Forget the fact that Madlax went 1-4 at Platinum Cup, beating the only winless team there (PrimeTime).

They had a layup to the semis, beating a mediocre Eclipse team and then a BBL team that lost to PrimeTime.

You guys are as crazy as your club owner.

Primetime are a pretty good team. They only lost by 11-2 to Crush and 9-6 to Crabs

They went 0-5 at Platinum Cup. They lost to Madlax, who went 1-4. Please.

Prime Time 2020 is better than their Adrenaline Cup showing. They were missing Four Ct. Prep School kids (we all know what that means but until lax gets away from grade based teams so be it) and proceeded to go 4-2 at HHH losing only to Crabs and Crush. Maybe not a Top 10 team, but don't take them for granted either like perhaps Edge did this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

Did any 2020 players make the Under Armour Team ?

Did they attend one of the tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

Did any 2020 players make the Under Armour Team ?

Did they attend one of the tryouts?

Yes they did, I noticed a few 2020 kids there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thought you had to live on LI to be on LI UA team.

Did any 2020 players make the Under Armour Team ?

Did they attend one of the tryouts?

Yes they did, I noticed a few 2020 kids there

Not all of the selected kids. Not all.

Interesting match ups at Crabfeast this coming weekend.

Long Island Legacy vs Carolina Cannons
Express vs Hawks
VLC vs Eclipse
Looneys vs NH Tomahawks
Crabs vs Palm Beach Rev

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting match ups at Crabfeast this coming weekend.

Long Island Legacy vs Carolina Cannons
Express vs Hawks
VLC vs Eclipse
Looneys vs NH Tomahawks
Crabs vs Palm Beach Rev

Winners...
Cannons
Express (barely)
VLC
Looneys
Crabs

Looneys will be the champs, (my kid is on another team)

What about igloo 2020

Who do you guys think will be the final 4 in crab feast this weekend?

Wy will he Cannons game be interesting. They havenever been a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about igloo 2020

Didn't exactly light it up at Lax Fest last weekend.

Express and Cannons? Puhleez.

Looneys wins if they have the FOGO

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about igloo 2020

Didn't exactly light it up at Lax Fest last weekend.

Igloo gets a rough ride starting with NH Tomahawks then Looneys.

Cannons if I recall from last fall did some damage coming to Famous Autumn Classic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who do you guys think will be the final 4 in crab feast this weekend?

FCA, Looneys, Crabs, the maybe Tomahawks or Palm Beach.

Edge did that's for sure

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Battle of the hold backs! Winner gets to drive home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Battle of the hold backs! Winner gets to drive home.

would get over the holdback thing. at big 4 hhh saw 2020 teams bigger than 2018 teams. It doesn't matter anymore they are entering high school or already have in some cases. Want to play varsity or ncaa then your are now ling up with men potentially 3-4 years older

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Battle of the hold backs! Winner gets to drive home.

would get over the holdback thing. at big 4 hhh saw 2020 teams bigger than 2018 teams. It doesn't matter anymore they are entering high school or already have in some cases. Want to play varsity or ncaa then your are now ling up with men potentially 3-4 years older

I have no problem with my kid playing older boys on varsity. This is not varsity. It is some weak [lacrosse] parents letting their man play against boys years younger. Hold back parents deserve the insults sent their way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Battle of the hold backs! Winner gets to drive home.

would get over the holdback thing. at big 4 hhh saw 2020 teams bigger than 2018 teams. It doesn't matter anymore they are entering high school or already have in some cases. Want to play varsity or ncaa then your are now ling up with men potentially 3-4 years older

I have no problem with my kid playing older boys on varsity. This is not varsity. It is some weak [lacrosse] parents letting their man play against boys years younger. Hold back parents deserve the insults sent their way.

That absolutely sums it up.

I agree re: holdbacks. This is 8th grade youth lacrosse. 16 year olds should not be playing against 13 year olds. If you haven't seen the Crabs line up - you are in for a treat. It is comical how big (old) these kids are on this team. How a parent allows their kid to part of the Crabs farce is beyond me. Perhaps the funniest think about it is that with even kids 1 and 2 years older they are losing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Battle of the hold backs! Winner gets to drive home.

would get over the holdback thing. at big 4 hhh saw 2020 teams bigger than 2018 teams. It doesn't matter anymore they are entering high school or already have in some cases. Want to play varsity or ncaa then your are now ling up with men potentially 3-4 years older

I have no problem with my kid playing older boys on varsity. This is not varsity. It is some weak [lacrosse] parents letting their man play against boys years younger. Hold back parents deserve the insults sent their way.

Pretty much sums up how most of us feel about the situation.

...as well as the scholarship dollars to a top college!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...as well as the scholarship dollars to a top college!

Anything to justify it. As a parent do you enjoy playing kids 2-3 years younger? Is that the challenge? Or is playing on age or up the challenge?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...as well as the scholarship dollars to a top college!

Please, there is no real money for lacrosse. Enjoy watching your athlete on the bench when they can't compete on age.

Dude, at least one recent hold back I know is doing it out of financial desperation with all eggs in one basket to get the kid to college with as much money as possible. No pride in hi motivation and probably embarrassment...after a year or two of that feeling if the ship comes in I'm sure that will make up for his embarrassment, but yes, sucks for us (kids and parents)on age '20's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's up with the madlax 2020 team? For all the nonsense they were talking early on on this board they aren't doing so well against real competition.

You are a fool. Madlax won their first two games against 2 excellent teams and made the semifinals, one win away from the championship.

So Madlax is not only a Top 10 team, they have an argument to be considered among the Top 4 2020 teams in the country.

This may be the dumbest post I have ever seen on this forum, and I've seen plenty. MadLax 2020 is not a top 10 team, and nowhere close to top 5. You need to have your head examined - they are average at best, and there are no exceptional players at all on that team. They are simply a decent team (nowhere near elite), one of many, that's all.

For the life of me I have never understood why the college coaches permit this (I know they are not in charge, but their opinions would be influential). A 16 year old dominating a 13 year old is not predicative of their relative abilities when they are both fully mature. A 16 year old dominating 16 year olds, or a 13 year old dominating 13 year olds, is predictive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

...as well as the scholarship dollars to a top college!

Please, there is no real money for lacrosse. Enjoy watching your athlete on the bench when they can't compete on age.

Not a fan of holdbacks at all, but I can tell you there is significant money for top recruits

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, at least one recent hold back I know is doing it out of financial desperation with all eggs in one basket to get the kid to college with as much money as possible. No pride in hi motivation and probably embarrassment...after a year or two of that feeling if the ship comes in I'm sure that will make up for his embarrassment, but yes, sucks for us (kids and parents)on age '20's.

Are there really kids out there (going to private schools) that can say they are "financially desperate"? That doesn't make sense to me

Mad lax guy...one mans delusions do not alter the reality we all see and know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Laxachusettes, Looneys, NH Tomahawks, Hawks, Express, and Crabs would be my expected top 6 seeds.

Laxachusettes v Looneys would be an interesting matchup.

Don't see Hawks in the mix, and Laxachussetts from what I have seen so far can play great and then not so great. Might have a 200 pounder on D.

FCA, Laxachusetts, Looneys, Hawks. Tomahawks lost to Hawks and Sons (I think) this past weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, at least one recent hold back I know is doing it out of financial desperation with all eggs in one basket to get the kid to college with as much money as possible. No pride in hi motivation and probably embarrassment...after a year or two of that feeling if the ship comes in I'm sure that will make up for his embarrassment, but yes, sucks for us (kids and parents)on age '20's.

funny how crush hammers everyone with three 04's on their team.

Please. Take away DELETED and you have an average team.

HEY!!!! For fun, let's call out your kid and see how you like it!!! MORON!

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

What team are you referring to re: DELETED?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please. Take away DELETED and you have an average team.

Once felt that way but last two weekends that is false. DELETED was good but not dominant ! For years I looked for that teams demise and weak spots there aren't. One player at this age doesn't creat a 7+ goal difference in EVERY game. Team doesn't take games off can beat you a thousand different ways. Pretty amazing to be honest but we'll keep trying. . I've admired how this 2020 thread has cleaned up let's keep it that way as our kids could end up being teammates

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

Teams going are not supposed to be 2021. They are not supposed to be any grade. It is an age based tournament. But your grievance is noted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Nope, The one kid is 13, 2003 birthday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

Teams going are not supposed to be 2021. They are not supposed to be any grade. It is an age based tournament. But your grievance is noted.

I'd venture to say a fair amount of the 2021 players have 2002 birth dates either due to parents holding them back or varying school cut offs, thus age-based is the fair way to go...puts everyone on a level playing field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

Teams going are not supposed to be 2021. They are not supposed to be any grade. It is an age based tournament. But your grievance is noted.

I'd venture to say a fair amount of the 2021 players have 2002 birth dates either due to parents holding them back or varying school cut offs, thus age-based is the fair way to go...puts everyone on a level playing field.

a level playing field was to keep a Sept month cut off you and I both know they didn't do that to fall to pressure of those with SPRING birthdates.

All this does is muddy the waters to figure out what dates to use for cut-offs.

That said laughing at June Birthdates on the teams. Way to say above board and ethics.

When will it end

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

played on the weekend and told three of their players are going into grade 7 in sept. Now I did the math maybe they are late 2003's but they were playing teams with 2001,s they are magical that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

played on the weekend and told three of their players are going into grade 7 in sept. Now I did the math maybe they are late 2003's but they were playing teams with 2001,s they are magical that team.

I wasn't dogging Crush I was saying they are doing it the right way and others used the age breakout as an excuse to play down... and recruit rising freshman. wasn't this supposed to be a rising 8th grade game from inception.

A joke that it is a May cut off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

played on the weekend and told three of their players are going into grade 7 in sept. Now I did the math maybe they are late 2003's but they were playing teams with 2001,s they are magical that team.

I'll have a glass of whatever she's drinking.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 2020 Crush (8th grade) really have kids that were born in 2004? If so - kudos to them. When they play Crabs, FCA etc they will be playing kids 4 years older. Wow.

Now look at some of those teams going to Denver that are supposed to be 2021. They have 2002 Birthdates.

yeah yeah yeah it gave a grievance to players born after May, whatever.

played on the weekend and told three of their players are going into grade 7 in sept. Now I did the math maybe they are late 2003's but they were playing teams with 2001,s they are magical that team.

I wasn't dogging Crush I was saying they are doing it the right way and others used the age breakout as an excuse to play down... and recruit rising freshman. wasn't this supposed to be a rising 8th grade game from inception.

A joke that it is a May cut off

Crush is a true 2020 team, except for the two hold backs they took on this year, the one they already had, by NY cutoff, and the should be 8th grader held back, who frequently plays down a grade with his brothers team who often plays up. Soap opera material?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

How did the face offs go for Crush! wcs kid a beast !!

WCS Starz FOGO got beat pretty bad, time to go back to CA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

How did the face offs go for Crush! wcs kid a beast !!

Sorry Dad but Crush beat your kid down...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

How did the face offs go for Crush! wcs kid a beast !!

Sorry Dad but Crush beat your kid down...

Heard Crush went less than 50%

Could it really be that there are no teams besides Crush worth discussing? If so maybe we should broaden the discussion and move all the Crush envy to a separate thread of their own. After al, when you are that awesome why slum it in this common 2020 thread with the rest of the unwashed?

Things really have changed. Back in the old days we used to spend page after page ranting about multiple 2020 teams. Who can forget the laughs we all had bashing Jesters or talking about how For the Love of the Green are a bunch of phonies? Remember all the good times spent ranking LI teams and dismissing any B team as totally irrelevant? Now we have Legacy B teams surpassing Taz....So much else to talk about besides Crush and holdback teams from Maryland!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush and West Coast Stars will meet in the finals at HHH. Crush has been dominate throughout. Stars have had wins against the Crabs and Laxachusetts. Should be a decent game

How did the face offs go for Crush! wcs kid a beast !!

Sorry Dad but Crush beat your kid down...

Heard Crush went less than 50%

Nope, kid from California lost 90% of the draws and Crush gave WCS a beat down.

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

I take it that your son is one of the better players on that team, (or at least you think he is).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

I take it that your son is one of the better players on that team, (or at least you think he is).

Not looking at it that way. but you can see other teams favoring certain stronger players that are given more play time than others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

I take it that your son is one of the better players on that team, (or at least you think he is).

Not looking at it that way. but you can see other teams favoring certain stronger players that are given more play time than others.

excuses excuses- blame anything/one but little johnny

Long Island is weak at 2020 compared to Maryland. Yes, LI has the best team, but significant dropoff after that.

please dont poke visor and viper dad. this thread will explode with craziness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long Island is weak at 2020 compared to Maryland. Yes, LI has the best team, but significant dropoff after that.

That's because the teams from MD, Mass and PA are comprised of kids that should be playing 2019 and 2018. Not too hard to figure that out....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

Visor Dad! Very vocal but betting you could not make a free throw or probably run to the corner without supplemental oxygen. What a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

What hurts Love of the game is they play equal time and not to win. record would be better if they played that way

Visor Dad! Very vocal but betting you could not make a free throw or probably run to the corner without supplemental oxygen. What a joke.

I resemble that comment!!!

Express and Igloo not doing so well in MD. Taz still alive, doesn't look like anyone beating Looneys. Crush hiding?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express and Igloo not doing so well in MD. Taz still alive, doesn't look like anyone beating Looneys. Crush hiding?

how many 2019s on Looney 2020. Cause Looney 2019 not very good

Yes Looney Dad. Crush is hiding after playing NO close games past two weeks and Maverik starting tomorrow where most of team is headed Very good scheduling on their part keeps kids fresh for important events. As much as we all care about wins and losses it's about kids being showcased good luck today everyone

Crabs, FCA, Looneys and Laxachusetts loaded with holdbacks. Tough for teams with on age rosters (Hawks and LI) to compete. I'll say Crabs v Looneys final with fat crab and his homer refs at BL squeaking out a win in a tight game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs, FCA, Looneys and Laxachusetts loaded with holdbacks. Tough for teams with on age rosters (Hawks and LI) to compete. I'll say Crabs v Looneys final with fat crab and his homer refs at BL squeaking out a win in a tight game.

I don't think Crabs will get within 5 of Looney's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs, FCA, Looneys and Laxachusetts loaded with holdbacks. Tough for teams with on age rosters (Hawks and LI) to compete. I'll say Crabs v Looneys final with fat crab and his homer refs at BL squeaking out a win in a tight game.

Define holdback -Hawks has kids that do no meet a 9/1 cut off. They may not have held back but they are older than 2020 school cut off in Maryland by months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs, FCA, Looneys and Laxachusetts loaded with holdbacks. Tough for teams with on age rosters (Hawks and LI) to compete. I'll say Crabs v Looneys final with fat crab and his homer refs at BL squeaking out a win in a tight game.

Define holdback -Hawks has kids that do no meet a 9/1 cut off. They may not have held back but they are older than 2020 school cut off in Maryland by months.

Hawks 2020 with on age roster? Don't kid yourself, they also have holdbacks, not as many as Crabs or FCA but they have them.

There are two kids on Hawks than could not be on the team if they went back to age based - a middle and an attackman. Both would miss the cutoff by a couple of month. There are no repeat 8th grade Holdbacks on that team like Crabs, FCA, Looneys, etc. There certainly aren't any 16 year olds or kids who will turn 16 by the end of this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two kids on Hawks than could not be on the team if they went back to age based - a middle and an attackman. Both would miss the cutoff by a couple of month. There are no repeat 8th grade Holdbacks on that team like Crabs, FCA, Looneys, etc. There certainly aren't any 16 year olds or kids who will turn 16 by the end of this year.

The only two teams that have 16 or close to 16 year olds are Crabs and FCA. I believe Looney's has 4 but they are young 15 year olds. Crabs and FCA dominate the holdback game, with Crabs far ahead of any other 2020 team. Its just the way they design their teams.

There is one 15 yr old on Looney's. Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two kids on Hawks than could not be on the team if they went back to age based - a middle and an attackman. Both would miss the cutoff by a couple of month. There are no repeat 8th grade Holdbacks on that team like Crabs, FCA, Looneys, etc. There certainly aren't any 16 year olds or kids who will turn 16 by the end of this year.

The only two teams that have 16 or close to 16 year olds are Crabs and FCA. I believe Looney's has 4 but they are young 15 year olds. Crabs and FCA dominate the holdback game, with Crabs far ahead of any other 2020 team. Its just the way they design their teams.

Taz has a9th grader

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Looney Dad. Crush is hiding after playing NO close games past two weeks and Maverik starting tomorrow where most of team is headed Very good scheduling on their part keeps kids fresh for important events. As much as we all care about wins and losses it's about kids being showcased good luck today everyone

As in most, do you mean most of the favorites, which would mean about 5 of a team of 24?

Crabs lose again to Looneys. Fat Crab has coronary

How did taz and terps do this weekend?

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Crabs aren't shite. Without their platoon of holdbacks (cough - 16 year old 8th graders) they wouldn't have won a game in HOCO. Even with the homer refs at BL they lose. College coaches on sideline must laugh their asses off watch fat crab perform. Love it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did taz and terps do this weekend?

Not good, playing over their heads!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs aren't shite. Without their platoon of holdbacks (cough - 16 year old 8th graders) they wouldn't have won a game in HOCO. Even with the homer refs at BL they lose. College coaches on sideline must laugh their asses off watch fat crab perform. Love it.

Youre just jealous that the college coaches are not hanging out at the rec tournaments your sons team plays at.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs aren't shite. Without their platoon of holdbacks (cough - 16 year old 8th graders) they wouldn't have won a game in HOCO. Even with the homer refs at BL they lose. College coaches on sideline must laugh their asses off watch fat crab perform. Love it.

Much of their roster doesn't even play so no idea what the attraction is for families.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are two kids on Hawks than could not be on the team if they went back to age based - a middle and an attackman. Both would miss the cutoff by a couple of month. There are no repeat 8th grade Holdbacks on that team like Crabs, FCA, Looneys, etc. There certainly aren't any 16 year olds or kids who will turn 16 by the end of this year.

Is it the very large attackman that scores most of their goals and they run most of their plays through? . He barrels his way through and shoots right over everyone's heads. Rest of the team is talented but without this kid not sure how they would fare.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Taz went to the semis this weekend, while terps were in the losers bracket. You may need to reajust!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

Florida fogo only lost one draw the entire game and went over 90%. Very competitive game that the Crabs should have won.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

You can't win if you don't show up!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Taz went to the semis this weekend, while terps were in the losers bracket. You may need to reajust!

Taz lost in the Quaterfinals not the semis. They also had easy pool play games to get there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

Thank you Crab dad for the insight. Crabs is never a better team, they are just an older team, sometimes two years older. And I don't believe Looney's would loose to Team?? by double digits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

Guess it pays to fly in a fogo from out of state. Wonder if fogo will switch teams to crabs once he gets to mcdonogh given they probably want as many mcdonogh kids on the same club team. Whichever elite team has him will be the winner in the grade - no other fogo comes close on md elite teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Taz went to the semis this weekend, while terps were in the losers bracket. You may need to reajust!

Taz lost in the Quaterfinals not the semis. They also had easy pool play games to get there.

easy according to the players in the loser bracket? Stop crying!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Taz went to the semis this weekend, while terps were in the losers bracket. You may need to reajust!

Taz lost in the Quaterfinals not the semis. They also had easy pool play games to get there.

easy according to the players in the loser bracket? Stop crying!

It's funny that you would lie about them making semi final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

Guess it pays to fly in a fogo from out of state. Wonder if fogo will switch teams to crabs once he gets to mcdonogh given they probably want as many mcdonogh kids on the same club team. Whichever elite team has him will be the winner in the grade - no other fogo comes close on md elite teams.

. He would never play on Crabs or anyone else. He has a great relationship with Looneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

You can't win if you don't show up!!

Crush won't ever play in a tournament with the Crabs again, they don't want to risk losing. I also think they only lost to Looney's by 1 last summer and are ducking them too

Who won MVP Rising in MD?

Did legacy win it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Thanks For the Love of the Green Dad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush

Terps

Taz-Igloo-love of $, express B

everyone else

That is how LI looks at this point...I'd be shocked if anyone differs...

Express B has had one good win in a month.
They lost the B team underneath Taz last week, and had 1 win and 5 losses this weekend. They lost to 91's B team today and they are not good. fl$ and Taz would beat them by double digits.

Taz went to the semis this weekend, while terps were in the losers bracket. You may need to reajust!

Taz lost in the Quaterfinals not the semis. They also had easy pool play games to get there.

easy according to the players in the loser bracket? Stop crying!

It's funny that you would lie about them making semi final.

Mistake! but not a mistake that Express couldn't even make the winners bracket!, sad for a team that was once considered one of the best!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did legacy win it

Nope - they did not add enough AA players from their first team.

Crabs are not better - just older.

Taz did not make the "winners" bracket in Farmingdke last week, and lost to a team in pool play that then lost to Express B in the semis. Check how Express B did this weekend in the "Channy Tri Star".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys down two goals with 1:20 to go...they score two to tie..win in ot.
The crab fans in shock..hehehe

Guess that means the Florida fogo played? Would they have won without him? % of wins for the fogos this game?

FL fogo went over 90% but Crabs were the better team today. Neither team compares to Team (**) and both would probably lose by double digits. Looney's would have easily lost the game had they not got every possession.

You can't win if you don't show up!!

Crush won't ever play in a tournament with the Crabs again, they don't want to risk losing. I also think they only lost to Looney's by 1 last summer and are ducking them too

Problem with this Statement is that it's false,Crush was in first two tourn NLF and Big 4 and Crabby s never made far enough to play them In addition looneys and Crush have played 15 plus times and Looneys have never won. The 2020 Crush comparisons are done, first two tournaments no games closer than 7,8 goals. Crabs multiple losses, Looneys lost to FCA, there is so much parity after the top team. Looneys play NSCLA instead of big 4 who's hiding ?

So what happen to the all mighty MADLAX team this weekend 2-3.

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Hawks fogo did verrrrrry well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Sorry dad but Hawks fogo is average at best and gets beat by most of the elite fogos. Was at the HOCO semi-final game when Looney's played Hawks and the Looney's fogo won just about every face.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks fogo did verrrrrry well

Looney's fogo was hurt in the first period of the game and wasn't able to play the next three periods. Looney's backup smoked the Hawks fogo and Looney's won the game 6-1. Hawks fogo lost most of the day but the middies on the team along with the defense appear to keep them in most games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Florida IMG 2020 kid beats him 50% as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Florida IMG 2020 kid beats him 50% as well.

Kid from IMG played on the Legacy team this weekend and lost most of his faceoffs! Legacy never played Looney's, another delusional father who thinks his kid is the best. Looney's fog was best at the tournament, FCA fogo was 2nd best at the tournament and consistently beat the Hawks fogo and is much better than the kid from IMG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what happen to the all mighty MADLAX team this weekend 2-3.

Blew game against Carolina, had Laxachussetts tied deep into 4th, lost to Express in OT.

Isn't the express face off guy 1 of the top 3 or so out there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Florida IMG 2020 kid beats him 50% as well.

Kid from IMG played on the Legacy team this weekend and lost most of his faceoffs! Legacy never played Looney's, another delusional father who thinks his kid is the best. Looney's fog was best at the tournament, FCA fogo was 2nd best at the tournament and consistently beat the Hawks fogo and is much better than the kid from IMG.

Somebody didn't actually watch all the games this weekend.

FCA and Hawks did not play each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't the express face off guy 1 of the top 3 or so out there?

Yes, kid from Express is better than the Hawks and IMG.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have you seen him against Hawks FOGO the last 2 games. He does not dominate every teams FOGO.

Florida IMG 2020 kid beats him 50% as well.

Kid from IMG played on the Legacy team this weekend and lost most of his faceoffs! Legacy never played Looney's, another delusional father who thinks his kid is the best. Looney's fog was best at the tournament, FCA fogo was 2nd best at the tournament and consistently beat the Hawks fogo and is much better than the kid from IMG.

Somebody didn't actually watch all the games this weekend.

Kid from IMG went against the Looney's fogo this weekend?

Wonder why MVP Rising final game results hasn't been posted? I would think that NXT would be more organized than that! Anyone know who won the championship?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't the express face off guy 1 of the top 3 or so out there?

Yes, according to his father

His father would never make any comment about his son. You clearly don't know him. Former seal. class act.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wonder why MVP Rising final game results hasn't been posted? I would think that NXT would be more organized than that! Anyone know who won the championship?

Next Level in OT over 3D San Diego according to post on MD 2020 board

Originally Posted by Anonymous

His father would never make any comment about his son. You clearly don't know him. Former seal. class act.

No kidding, it's just funny how people get so caught up in ranking! What does top 3 even mean? There is king Looney, then about 10 others that can beat each other at the x on any given day. End of story!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn't the express face off guy 1 of the top 3 or so out there?

Yes, according to his father

You are an [lacrosse]****

Which elite fogo does the Hawks kid get beat by? Not what I've seen....not a parent either.

Which games were you watching? Certainly werent any Hawks games. Looneys fogo feelings were hurt, nothing else. He looked fine against the crabs fogo. Perhaps he left the game because the UNC coaches were watching and he didn't want to continue to look bad. Just a spectator trying to keep things honest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

His father would never make any comment about his son. You clearly don't know him. Former seal. class act.

Former Seal/ They feed him sardines?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which elite fogo does the Hawks kid get beat by? Not what I've seen....not a parent either.

Express, Team (***), Legacy, Laxx, FCA and Team Carolina just to name a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which elite fogo does the Hawks kid get beat by? Not what I've seen....not a parent either.

He got beat by Looney's FOGO in the first period Sunday, when he got injured Looney's backup FOGO beat Hawk's FOGO on most of the faceoffs in the last three periods. Not sure what you were watching.

You must really get around to have watched all these games and maybe be a little obsessed with someone you proclaim to not be good

wow that's a [lacrosse] comment. (sardine one). you should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You must really get around to have watched all these games and maybe be a little obsessed with someone you proclaim to not be good

What/who are you talking to? You didn't provide a quote that you were responding to. I don't think anyone knows what you are referencing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow that's a [lacrosse] comment. (sardine one). you should be ashamed of yourself.

Not one bit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow that's a [lacrosse] comment. (sardine one). you should be ashamed of yourself.

Not one bit!

What about me, I'm the dad of a fogo and am a factory worker. Guess that makes me a second class citizen? Do we need a big title to be respected in the lax community? And no, I don't wear Vinyard Vines, just love my son

A big title? I was acknowledging the sacrifice a man made for our country and generally speaking the seal reference was a testament to his character--that's it--and I'm not a GC or express homer... Geez.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A big title? I was acknowledging the sacrifice a man made for our country and generally speaking the seal reference was a testament to his character--that's it--and I'm not a GC or express homer... Geez.

100% well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A big title? I was acknowledging the sacrifice a man made for our country and generally speaking the seal reference was a testament to his character--that's it--and I'm not a GC or express homer... Geez.

100% well said.

Look, possibly getting shot at and killed is clearly a big deal and we should say thank you, but it doesn't speak directly to anyone's character. PS I am ex-military, no thanks needed.

Christ...whatever. I feel like i'm being persecuted on here for saying something POSITIVE about a person and his son. Can we leave it at that. I had known the kid to be one of the top two F/O's on LI and was curious if that position extended to the national stage. Must be that Syosset guy again...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Christ...whatever. I feel like i'm being persecuted on here for saying something POSITIVE about a person and his son. Can we leave it at that. I had known the kid to be one of the top two F/O's on LI and was curious if that position extended to the national stage. Must be that Syosset guy again...

More like the top 6-7 from LI, who all can beat each other, and pretty much anyone else in the age group with the exception of Looneys boy.

Can I ask where LIE Leghart fits in their 2020 pecking order playing them this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I ask where LIE Leghart fits in their 2020 pecking order playing them this weekend.

Express TERPS, Express Leghart is 2...

Still a solid team that can beat most A teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I ask where LIE Leghart fits in their 2020 pecking order playing them this weekend.

Express TERPS, Express Leghart is 2...

Still a solid team that can beat most A teams

And has lost to 2 different B teams from Long Island.

Does anyone know if there's a copy of the Crush-Crabs WSOL championship online somewhere? Thanks.

Look on the espn3 site for the WYSL game film

It's not listed. The games older than 30 days usually are gone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's not listed. The games older than 30 days usually are gone.

My son who is 9 has it on DVR. You can come watch it in his play room in the basement if you give him 20 bucks!

i had it on my DVR, watched the first 2 minutes of it then realized how boring the youth game is when your kid is not playing. Deleted it to get my space under 50% again.

The UA uncommitted game was a waste of time. The UNC coach was there for about five minutes and the level of play was low. This was definitely a money grab/after thought. Plus they changed the date a few days before the event. I have question: did anyone spend extra money to change their travel plans?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The UA uncommitted game was a waste of time. The UNC coach was there for about five minutes and the level of play was low. This was definitely a money grab/after thought. Plus they changed the date a few days before the event. I have question: did anyone spend extra money to change their travel plans?

And it's a recruiting dead period!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The UA uncommitted game was a waste of time. The UNC coach was there for about five minutes and the level of play was low. This was definitely a money grab/after thought. Plus they changed the date a few days before the event. I have question: did anyone spend extra money to change their travel plans?

And it's a recruiting dead period!

Other than the senior game on TV tonight (which seems to be nothing more than a fun exhibition) what exactly is the point of the UA games?

Money grab! Once committed save your money for the coming tuition! The leeches cannot get enough of us!

No dead or quiet period during July for recruiting. Check your facts before posting.

Crush boys playing down couldn't do much. Team lost badly!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No dead or quiet period during July for recruiting. Check your facts before posting.

I too have seen the NCAA site which shows the "calendar" with early July as "dead" starting in 2017, so there wouldnt be one now, also per calendar.

I don't know if this was changed and site not updated - MANY coaches tweeting out about how the new dead period allows them to be home at least for a few days right now...anyone know for sure...can post link?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush boys playing down couldn't do much. Team lost badly!

Wasn't it aged based? With a Birth Certificate?

Who wants to do a top 10?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush boys playing down couldn't do much. Team lost badly!

Wasn't it aged based? With a Birth Certificate?

8th graders playing 7th graders is playing down, sorry!! Was surprised that kids who played varsity this year couldn't compete effectively! Now Crush will be back to winning next week with the 3 players who are the whole team, and not there . As for the other 8th grade team, they will not fair as well when they compete with their own grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush boys playing down couldn't do much. Team lost badly!

Extremely happy for Zummo! Well deserved for a genuinely good guy. Not a Crush fan at all, however let's not turn this into a Taz beat Crush thing. While I'm personally happy about the out come the Crush kids who played are of little consequence and are ok players. If Taz played "The Crush" it would be Crush by 10 plus goals . It's absolutely a great thing for Zummo and his program.

Next chapter

FCA
3d NE
Freedom
91 NY
Annapolis Hawks
C2C Dallas
Tri State
Sweetlax, NY
Madlax
3d Denver
Sweetlax, FL
Next Level
Iron Horse
LI Express

Did you watch the game? How many 2020's were on Legacy? Seriously, get a grip.
Age based tournament = you could have 2019's to 2022's playing depending on their DOB.

Read the rules;

Eligibility Rules - United States Teams
All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002. Each player will be required to submit a copy of their birth certificate.

Ignorance and hating on kids, classy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wants to do a top 10?

Team 91
Looney's
West coast stars
Crabs
FCA
Laxachussets
Annapolis Hawks
NH Tomahawks
Express
Leading Edge

STUPID HALF OF LEGACY WAS THEIR 2020 TEAM. DID U SEE THE SIZE DIFFERENCE IN KIDS.

there were big kids on the other teams Igloo played as well, the kids on Zummos team were bigger and more skilled. Their faceoff kid was something special, and he wasn't big kid. Its ok and a good accomplishment to make the finals, personally I think it is quite an accomplishment to get your team out to Colorado and play X number of games in mile high. Both teams should be proud.

7th graders playing 8th graders in an AGE BASED, LEGIT TOURNAMENT is playing up! not the reverse. SORRY bitter IGLOO dad who was SO looking forward to going back to work and bragging that little Johnny is a World Champion lax stud, hahahah, you guys are so pathetic its comical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wants to do a top 10?

Team 91
Looney's
West coast stars
Crabs
FCA
Laxachussets
Annapolis Hawks
NH Tomahawks
Express
Leading Edge

Tomahawks, Taz, Crush, Looneys play each other next week, will be interesting!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wants to do a top 10?

Team 91
Looney's
West coast stars
Crabs
FCA
Laxachussets
Annapolis Hawks
NH Tomahawks
Express
Leading Edge

Tomahawks, Taz, Crush, Looneys play each other next week, will be interesting!

where?

NH Tomahawks team is very, very good. They would destroy Taz....

Looney's beat NHtomohawks 11-4 at Crabfeast. And unfortunately no Crush at Inside Lacrosse next week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

there were big kids on the other teams Igloo played as well, the kids on Zummos team were bigger and more skilled. Their faceoff kid was something special, and he wasn't big kid. Its ok and a good accomplishment to make the finals, personally I think it is quite an accomplishment to get your team out to Colorado and play X number of games in mile high. Both teams should be proud.

Something special against 7th, graders, middle of the pac against 8th, smoke and mirrors!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who wants to do a top 10?

Team 91
Looney's
West coast stars
Crabs
FCA
Laxachussets
Annapolis Hawks edge beat three of those teams last weekend
NH Tomahawks
Express
Leading Edge

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NH Tomahawks team is very, very good. They would destroy Taz....

Edge Ont beat Tomahawks in Boston last weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NH Tomahawks team is very, very good. They would destroy Taz....

Edge Ont beat Tomahawks in Boston last weekend.

and beat Leading Edge I would rethink that top ten and watch out for Sweetlax Upstate they will surprise a few this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NH Tomahawks team is very, very good. They would destroy Taz....

Edge Ont beat Tomahawks in Boston last weekend.

Taz beat them in the fall. How does the Maryland 2020 Brine team look?

Taz playing 2021 this weekend ? Hysterical. Anything to win a tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz playing 2021 this weekend ? Hysterical. Anything to win a tournament

Sour grapes daddy. Twasn't Taz that played but some Taz players. Shows how talented Taz is that half their team is so young that they qualified by their young age to play in tnmt. Next week Taz will be together again for elite recruiting tnmt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's beat NHtomohawks 11-4 at Crabfeast. And unfortunately no Crush at Inside Lacrosse next week.

I would have Looney's at a standalone second best gap down to three

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz playing 2021 this weekend ? Hysterical. Anything to win a tournament

Sour grapes daddy. Twasn't Taz that played but some Taz players. Shows how talented Taz is that half their team is so young that they qualified by their young age to play in tnmt. Next week Taz will be together again for elite recruiting tnmt.

Yeah look out....after beating 7th graders they are ready to conquer the world! They beat 7th grade Igloo but 3 weeks ago lost to the actual 8th grade Igloo team which went on to lose to Express B. Maybe take it down a notch....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz playing 2021 this weekend ? Hysterical. Anything to win a tournament

Sour grapes daddy. Twasn't Taz that played but some Taz players. Shows how talented Taz is that half their team is so young that they qualified by their young age to play in tnmt. Next week Taz will be together again for elite recruiting tnmt.

Yeah look out....after beating 7th graders they are ready to conquer the world! They beat 7th grade Igloo but 3 weeks ago lost to the actual 8th grade Igloo team which went on to lose to Express B. Maybe take it down a notch....

Sour grapes Poppy.

I�ll try not to get too far off track from the usual discussion topics (e.g., holdbacks, LI vs Maryland trash talk, team ranking, money grab, daddy ball coaching, or the �bitter my kid got cut from team so-and-so� response . . .). My son�s 3d NorCal 2020 team recently played in the LI Lax Clash in Garden City (against LIE North 2020 AA, LIE 2020 Leghart & Team 91 2020 Orange).

Probably some on this board will deride it as an 2nd tier tournament with all the top teams playing at Crab Feast and the mere mention of 3d will trigger some hate � but we had a very pleasant and positive experience. Exactly what a 14 year just finishing 8th grade is supposed to have at a summer lacrosse tournament. Got to see some East coast relatives as an aside.

We were short a number of players and needed to �borrow� from some of the LI Express teams. They were great kids, all contributed and said they had fun as well. From what I�ve read on this board, I expected to encounter some �vocal� parents, but that was not the case at all. And to answer the most common question our kids were asked � no, I don�t think any of them surf.

I saw a tweet from Ty Xanders saying that there is a "dead period" from something like July 2-6 where college coaches cannot evaluate or have contact with players. I have 2 questions, is he correct? And if he is, why would there be "recruiting" events like UA and 225 going on during that time? Does anyone know?

Taz couldn't win Laxfest full of B teams in fact didn't even make semi finals ouch.
Who's sour poppy Don't let the facts get in the way of your story lolol

They left on Friday 7/1. No coaches on sidelines Sat or Sun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ill try not to get too far off track from the usual discussion topics (e.g., holdbacks, LI vs Maryland trash talk, team ranking, money grab, daddy ball coaching, or the bitter my kid got cut from team so-and-so response . . .). My sons 3d NorCal 2020 team recently played in the LI Lax Clash in Garden City (against LIE North 2020 AA, LIE 2020 Leghart & Team 91 2020 Orange).

Probably some on this board will deride it as an 2nd tier tournament with all the top teams playing at Crab Feast and the mere mention of 3d will trigger some hate  but we had a very pleasant and positive experience. Exactly what a 14 year just finishing 8th grade is supposed to have at a summer lacrosse tournament. Got to see some East coast relatives as an aside.

We were short a number of players and needed to borrow from some of the LI Express teams. They were great kids, all contributed and said they had fun as well. From what Ive read on this board, I expected to encounter some vocal parents, but that was not the case at all. And to answer the most common question our kids were asked  no, I dont think any of them surf.

Nice someone with a positive outlook. Thanks for the note. The kids just want to play compete and have fun. I find it hard to belive that any 14yr old is seriously worried about collge at this point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz couldn't win Laxfest full of B teams in fact didn't even make semi finals ouch.
Who's sour poppy Don't let the facts get in the way of your story lolol

Lol two things sour poppy. 1. Wsyl team is not Taz - they are two different teams that had different practices, uniforms and tnmts so you should stop interchanging them as one team Mr. uninformed. 2. Laxfest yes they didn't play particularly well. I guess when you have several players playing after playing 3, yes 3 varsity games in the morning prior to tnmt each day they will be a bit off.

Guessing your son doesn't know what a varsity field looks like yet. Instead of bitching on here about how your reclassed son can't shine as a '21 why don't you go practice with him or better yet hit the beach. Good day to you sir.

That is Correct

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz couldn't win Laxfest full of B teams in fact didn't even make semi finals ouch.
Who's sour poppy Don't let the facts get in the way of your story lolol

Lol two things sour poppy. 1. Wsyl team is not Taz - they are two different teams that had different practices, uniforms and tnmts so you should stop interchanging them as one team Mr. uninformed. 2. Laxfest yes they didn't play particularly well. I guess when you have several players playing after playing 3, yes 3 varsity games in the morning prior to tnmt each day they will be a bit off.

Guessing your son doesn't know what a varsity field looks like yet. Instead of bitching on here about how your reclassed son can't shine as a '21 why don't you go practice with him or better yet hit the beach. Good day to you sir.

So they didn't perform well because they played 3 games prior? Hahahaha, wow, should I get out my violin? Overrated maybe?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz couldn't win Laxfest full of B teams in fact didn't even make semi finals ouch.
Who's sour poppy Don't let the facts get in the way of your story lolol

Lol two things sour poppy. 1. Wsyl team is not Taz - they are two different teams that had different practices, uniforms and tnmts so you should stop interchanging them as one team Mr. uninformed. 2. Laxfest yes they didn't play particularly well. I guess when you have several players playing after playing 3, yes 3 varsity games in the morning prior to tnmt each day they will be a bit off.

Guessing your son doesn't know what a varsity field looks like yet. Instead of bitching on here about how your reclassed son can't shine as a '21 why don't you go practice with him or better yet hit the beach. Good day to you sir.

So they didn't perform well because they played 3 games prior? Hahahaha, wow, should I get out my violin? Overrated maybe?

Sounds like your jealous FYI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz couldn't win Laxfest full of B teams in fact didn't even make semi finals ouch.
Who's sour poppy Don't let the facts get in the way of your story lolol

Lol two things sour poppy. 1. Wsyl team is not Taz - they are two different teams that had different practices, uniforms and tnmts so you should stop interchanging them as one team Mr. uninformed. 2. Laxfest yes they didn't play particularly well. I guess when you have several players playing after playing 3, yes 3 varsity games in the morning prior to tnmt each day they will be a bit off.

Guessing your son doesn't know what a varsity field looks like yet. Instead of bitching on here about how your reclassed son can't shine as a '21 why don't you go practice with him or better yet hit the beach. Good day to you sir.

So they didn't perform well because they played 3 games prior? Hahahaha, wow, should I get out my violin? Overrated maybe?

Sounds like your jealous FYI.

Of what?

At NXT is the Legacy Ravage the same team as the Taz team less the 2021 kids from WSYL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At NXT is the Legacy Ravage the same team as the Taz team less the 2021 kids from WSYL?

No

Cover up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cover up?

Heh?

What happened to the 2020 games at NXT? There aren't any scores from the A bracket.

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the 2020 games at NXT? There aren't any scores from the A bracket.

There were storms. The teams will play today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

No the 2019 best team is playing as well as crush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

No the 2019 best team is playing as well as crush

Thanks. Do not see crush on the 2020 schedule. Must have missed it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the 2020 games at NXT? There aren't any scores from the A bracket.

All 2020 A games played yesterday. Predators over Eff El Gee 6-5 in final.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

No the 2019 best team is playing as well as crush

91 NY was on the 2020 schedule until late last night, then they were switched to the 2019 bracket

Thanks. Do not see crush on the 2020 schedule. Must have missed it.

much better tourney next week same area in Pennsylvania.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

No the 2019 best team is playing as well as crush

91 NY was on the 2020 schedule until late last night, then they were switched to the 2019 bracket

Thanks. Do not see crush on the 2020 schedule. Must have missed it.

What about all the Crush and Taz boys on the rosters for NLF? Are there going to be a slew of no-shows? Pretty much says this showcase is a total waste of money. Very poor planning!

WSYL winners playing down just got spanked playing their own grade by a middle of the road team at IL

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

are the weekday tournaments a new thing? going forward if my son plays club should we expect more days off from work for games? most weekends are booked with 2 or 3 tourneys, so why not go mid week too..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

Not sure what OP means but given that there are dozens of A and AA teams at 2020 Tomahawks definitely not middle of the road, arguably top 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

Not sure what OP means but given that there are dozens of A and AA teams at 2020 Tomahawks definitely not middle of the road, arguably top 10.

How about MD **, that was the second loss? What happened to all the superstars? Oh, playing correct grade level maybe? But it does give you a taste of why Crabs always look so good!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

Not sure what OP means but given that there are dozens of A and AA teams at 2020 Tomahawks definitely not middle of the road, arguably top 10.

How about MD **, that was the second loss? What happened to all the superstars? Oh, playing correct grade level maybe? But it does give you a taste of why Crabs always look so good!

Heard Looneys barely pulled out a win against MD 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Crush playing this week? If so, where? Naptown? I side Lacrosse?

Crush is going to nap town classic

Are they the 91 playing 2019 as they are not playing 2020.

No the 2019 best team is playing as well as crush

91 NY was on the 2020 schedule until late last night, then they were switched to the 2019 bracket

Thanks. Do not see crush on the 2020 schedule. Must have missed it.

Is that really Crush? They got rolled by Annapolis Hawks 2019 today.

Crush isn't there

Yup. Looney's went up 4-1 and Team MD and number not to be named tied in regulation. Lost in OT. FLOGO was not a factor. 89+2 face-off dominated. And he's not a FOGO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush isn't there

That's their top 2019 team.
They had dominated their age group for the past few years, but they are not doing that anymore. They have a few losses this year.

FLOGO went 100% against Prime** and beat down 89+2, sorry dad but your team lost again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yup. Looney's went up 4-1 and Team MD and number not to be named tied in regulation. Lost in OT. FLOGO was not a factor. 89+2 face-off dominated. And he's not a FOGO.

Tomahawk F/O picked for all-star game over Taz and MD

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

I'm looking for some help. I live Suffolk and am looking to have a team for my son to tryout for. Looking for a list of 5. Any insight would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

Not sure what OP means but given that there are dozens of A and AA teams at 2020 Tomahawks definitely not middle of the road, arguably top 10.

How about MD **, that was the second loss? What happened to all the superstars? Oh, playing correct grade level maybe? But it does give you a taste of why Crabs always look so good!

Funny how bitter you are. Taz wasn't at the WSYL. I like how you now mock 13-14 yr olds for struggling. You must be some tough guy. Let me guess you never played the sport and your kid couldn't compete on age for WSYL.

In any event, maybe all tournaments should be age based, until the team claims it is a high school team, then anything goes. Let youth lacrosse be for kids. This is really the last year for youth play for 2020s. Unfortunately, they are already dealing with the shame (and sham) of early recruiting. Nice these kids go to individual showcases and that is what they learn, how to be individual players. The recruiting efforts are killing team concepts. It shows in the play on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

Edge beat them last week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be a middle of the road team? Someone out of the top 5? top 10?

Not sure what OP means but given that there are dozens of A and AA teams at 2020 Tomahawks definitely not middle of the road, arguably top 10.

How many hold backs 2019 isn't very good wonder if the better players gained that extra year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

Favored by whom...the New Hampshire Lacrosse writers association? Looney's will demolish them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

Favored by whom...the New Hampshire Lacrosse writers association? Looney's will demolish them.

Says the Maryland writers association

90 plus 1 FO/Middie beat FLOGO 12-2 on draws. He dominated him and it was not close. He plays Tomahawks kid today, so we'll see that battle as well. He made the all-star team, but was listed as a middie as he does not run off like a FOGO.

Please know what you are talking about when you post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

90 plus 1 FO/Middie beat FLOGO 12-2 on draws. He dominated him and it was not close. He plays Tomahawks kid today, so we'll see that battle as well. He made the all-star team, but was listed as a middie as he does not run off like a FOGO.

Please know what you are talking about when you post.

The game has caught up with Flogo. There are several fogos out there that he struggles against. He is still one of the best but not standing alone at the top. Some are in denial but I'm sure there is video out there that agrees.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

90 plus 1 FO/Middie beat FLOGO 12-2 on draws. He dominated him and it was not close...

Someone in Chapel Hill just spit coffee on himself.

FLOGO was beaten repeatedly by Hawks FOGO in PA and at Crab Feast.

I gave you a list of 6 and those that practice in suffolk but I guess three are discriminated against by the great oz so none of the recommendations made it through to aid you. oh well.

SORRY...not so...still wins MOST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm looking for some help. I live Suffolk and am looking to have a team for my son to tryout for. Looking for a list of 5. Any insight would be appreciated.

And your son is a 2020? Better have him try for the debate team. He is a little late to the travel game. If you are serious, ask the Middle school or JV Coach to hook you up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

90 plus 1 FO/Middie beat FLOGO 12-2 on draws. He dominated him and it was not close...

Someone in Chapel Hill just spit coffee on himself.

So did Hilgy at McDonogh!!

Is this the Taz2020 team at IL tourney?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this the Taz2020 team at IL tourney?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this the Taz2020 team at IL tourney?

Yes, not doing well

If your son can play he is never late to the travel game, especially a 2020 ! You people are nuts. Most of the tryouts will be in August, sept, oct of this year for next summer. Hit the websites now and review try out dates and expenses. Also assess the skill set. I do not know whIch district you are in. Your school may have a team that is worth exploring. If he is a public school kid he should at the very least do under armour next year and the nassau/suffolk showcase event. This will get him some looks from coaches. That is the objective.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this the Taz2020 team at IL tourney?

Yes, not doing well

Any scores?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is this the Taz2020 team at IL tourney?

Yes, not doing well

Any scores?

They were 2-2, any and all scores available at the event site.

Igloo 2021 Dad needs some couch time with a good therapist, obsessed with TAZ hahah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo 2021 Dad needs some couch time with a good therapist, obsessed with TAZ hahah

Taz showed what kind of team they are this week, doubt anyone would be obsessed, just kind of exposed the weak nature of wsyl

They just beat Looneys.

Looney's lost and FLOGO didn't play. Looney's FOGO apparently sick for the past few days and tried to play sick and with a bruised elbow but couldn't continue. My son and I watched the game and without their FOGO it's tough for Looney's to compete. Also, comical how people think other kids are catching up to that FOGO when they didn't realize he was not well. He's still the kid to beat and in my opinion the top kid in the 2020 class but their are many good kids nipping at his heels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo 2021 Dad needs some couch time with a good therapist, obsessed with TAZ hahah

Taz showed what kind of team they are this week, doubt anyone would be obsessed, just kind of exposed the weak nature of wsyl

Check the scores

Hey jerkoff Taz exposed that they never give up and keep working hard and believe in each other. Going to finals after beating the number 1 seed Looneys 10 to 7.. Taz is for real... Only going to get better with rumors of the kids coming to tryout..Love it..! Let's go!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerkoff Taz exposed that they never give up and keep working hard and believe in each other. Going to finals after beating the number 1 seed Looneys 10 to 7.. Taz is for real... Only going to get better with rumors of the kids coming to tryout..Love it..! Let's go!!

Someone else said that tomahawks were favored to win, how are they doing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerkoff Taz exposed that they never give up and keep working hard and believe in each other. Going to finals after beating the number 1 seed Looneys 10 to 7.. Taz is for real... Only going to get better with rumors of the kids coming to tryout..Love it..! Let's go!!

Looneys played without their, fogo, makes them a different team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerkoff Taz exposed that they never give up and keep working hard and believe in each other. Going to finals after beating the number 1 seed Looneys 10 to 7.. Taz is for real... Only going to get better with rumors of the kids coming to tryout..Love it..! Let's go!!

Someone else said that tomahawks were favored to win, how are they doing?

Tomahawks lost to Team Ninety-one MD 3-2. Championship is Team 88+3MD vs. Legacy. Team 9-1MD beat them 9-5 on Monday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey jerkoff Taz exposed that they never give up and keep working hard and believe in each other. Going to finals after beating the number 1 seed Looneys 10 to 7.. Taz is for real... Only going to get better with rumors of the kids coming to tryout..Love it..! Let's go!!

Someone else said that tomahawks were favored to win, how are they doing?

Tomahawks lost to 91 MD in semis

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

.
You spelled average team wrong...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

.
You spelled average team wrong...

looney's are a very good team but as these boys get older there will be parity for as many as 10 teams in the age group. The exception likely is Crush but even they may find their match in 2020 this Autumn season

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

.
You spelled average team wrong...

They are an above average team, even without their FOGO. Only problem is they do not have a strong backup FOGO, but you can bet they will be looking for one come tryout time.
So, your statement of average is way off base, must be either a LI fan or a Team Md 9 te 1 fan. But no one really cares either way.

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

With FLOGO yes, without him a very good team among 10 or so who could all beat each other on a given day....as we saw today...no shame in that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

WSOL champs taken down!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

WSOL champs taken down!

You do realize Taz is a different team then WSYL team? You sound uninformed and full of hubris.

Who won the FCA/LI Express game?

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Kid who scored most of the FCA goals a pre-first. Turned 15 a few months ago. It was a beatdown though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Kid who scored most of the FCA goals a pre-first. Turned 15 a few months ago. It was a beatdown though.

Not a good day for LI teams in MD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Kid who scored most of the FCA goals a pre-first. Turned 15 a few months ago. It was a beatdown though.

How did f/o go, heard express kid is committed there.

LI Express 2020 finally had to compete with another top fogo and didn't win 90% of the face offs in the Naptown final game vs FCA. Looks like #25 won less than 50%. Just shows you that when they don't win all the face offs they're just an average team. Also adds to the importance of the fogo at even the 2020 level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Kid who scored most of the FCA goals a pre-first. Turned 15 a few months ago. It was a beatdown though.

Not a good day for LI teams in MD.

I have no idea how Long Island competes against Maryland teams at youth level. With the better teams in Maryland loaded with holdbacks and summer birthday kids,, Doesnt that put most LI teams at a disadvantage?? Isnt the grade year age for Long Island Dec 1 instead of Sept 1 like MD. Which most MD teams have even older than that with their held back/prefirst kids??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

Kid who scored most of the FCA goals a pre-first. Turned 15 a few months ago. It was a beatdown though.

Not a good day for LI teams in MD.

I have no idea how Long Island competes against Maryland teams at youth level. With the better teams in Maryland loaded with holdbacks and summer birthday kids,, Doesnt that put most LI teams at a disadvantage?? Isnt the grade year age for Long Island Dec 1 instead of Sept 1 like MD. Which most MD teams have even older than that with their held back/prefirst kids??

Not all Maryland teams participate in the pre first/holdback game.

Crabs, FCA and Loonies all have holdbacks. It's the Baltimore private school way of doing things.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

.
You spelled average team wrong...

They are an above average team, even without their FOGO. Only problem is they do not have a strong backup FOGO, but you can bet they will be looking for one come tryout time.
So, your statement of average is way off base, must be either a LI fan or a Team Md 9 te 1 fan. But no one really cares either way.

You lost the semi to a LI team, team 9d1 crush LI always beats you, team 9d1 md lost by 1 to you in OT Monday with your fogo and beat the team twice this week that you lost to. why not just say Congratulations to other teams instead of slinging the mud as your team does every time thry lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

. FCA 2020 has about 5 or 6 holdbacks and will soon be adding another, the holdback middie from Crabs. Now, with this said, the FCA faithful will deny they have more than one holdback, but the true count is either 5 or 6 plus one more to come. Seems they hide behind their religious demeanor and feel people should believe whatever they say is the truth but many know it is not. Their 2020 team should have been playing in the 2019 division at Naptown tournament. Many don't like the atmosphere of this program, and the direction it has been heading in the past few years. The politics Kelly stirs up is unbelievable, both at FCA and CH.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Not anymore. Not really ever. FCA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

That is the problem with picking favorites....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Not anymore. Not really ever. FCA.

. Nope, completely wrong, FCA is becoming a holdback program, giving Crabs a run for the number of holdbacks. Seems they like the "bigger and older" look, much like Crabs. I agree with the poster above, FCA 2020 is really much closer to a 2019 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd have to agree - without their FOGO - they are a much different team.

.
You spelled average team wrong...

They are an above average team, even without their FOGO. Only problem is they do not have a strong backup FOGO, but you can bet they will be looking for one come tryout time.
So, your statement of average is way off base, must be either a LI fan or a Team Md 9 te 1 fan. But no one really cares either way.

You lost the semi to a LI team, team 9d1 crush LI always beats you, team 9d1 md lost by 1 to you in OT Monday with your fogo and beat the team twice this week that you lost to. why not just say Congratulations to other teams instead of slinging the mud as your team does every time thry lose.

. Don't see where anyone is slinging mud. You really have a vivid imagination.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Great competitive game by the kids but both sets of parents are obnoxious. Refs should have thrown out parents from both sides for harassing them and both teams have loud mouths screaming at the kids. Poor kids from both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Not anymore. Not really ever. FCA.

. Nope, completely wrong, FCA is becoming a holdback program, giving Crabs a run for the number of holdbacks. Seems they like the "bigger and older" look, much like Crabs. I agree with the poster above, FCA 2020 is really much closer to a 2019 team.

they are all in high school now you really are going to have to stop whining about this. what if your precious one makes varsity are you going to send the school board a letter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

That is the problem with picking favorites....

Why is that a problem, tomahawk fogo showed he was the best one there, he received mvp of the uncommitted game and beat everyone good!

What was the Naptown Challenge final score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Great competitive game by the kids but both sets of parents are obnoxious. Refs should have thrown out parents from both sides for harassing them and both teams have loud mouths screaming at the kids. Poor kids from both teams.

Between all the sideline coaching from the MD parents and the LI parents whining about every call, it got pretty ugly. Tournaments should tell parents positive feedback only or you forfeit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Not anymore. Not really ever. FCA.

. Nope, completely wrong, FCA is becoming a holdback program, giving Crabs a run for the number of holdbacks. Seems they like the "bigger and older" look, much like Crabs. I agree with the poster above, FCA 2020 is really much closer to a 2019 team.

they are all in high school now you really are going to have to stop whining about this. what if your precious one makes varsity are you going to send the school board a letter

No they're not, school has not started and tryouts have not been held yet. These are the teams that were formed last fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tomahawks FOGO was much better than Taz and MD FOGO. All Star game is for uncommitted stop Looney's FOGO not in. Tomahawks look like the best team after day one and are favored to win.

That is the problem with picking favorites....

Why is that a problem, tomahawk fogo showed he was the best one there, he received mvp of the uncommitted game and beat everyone good!

Believe the reference was to choosing Tomahawks as the favored to win the whole thing in your last line - nothing to do with your FOGO... a little levity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are far from average without the FOGO. Very talented across the board. After crush - the best 2020 team.

Not anymore. Not really ever. FCA.

. Nope, completely wrong, FCA is becoming a holdback program, giving Crabs a run for the number of holdbacks. Seems they like the "bigger and older" look, much like Crabs. I agree with the poster above, FCA 2020 is really much closer to a 2019 team.

they are all in high school now you really are going to have to stop whining about this. what if your precious one makes varsity are you going to send the school board a letter

No they're not, school has not started and tryouts have not been held yet. These are the teams that were formed last fall.

three weeks left in the summer season. then high school and big frosh recruiting events including nlf event nov 6 @ boys latin. Coaches don't care how old kids are if they are prepared to commit to sept 2020 they are going to get offers.

"LI Express 2020 finally had to compete with another top fogo and didn't win 90% of the face offs in the Naptown final game vs FCA. Looks like #25 won less than 50%. Just shows you that when they don't win all the face offs they're just an average team. Also adds to the importance of the fogo at even the 2020 level."

FACT. Been saying this for last couple of years. big attackman so over rated. F/O middie is a great player even if he didn't excel in this matchup though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

are the MD parents the old breakers team because if so they are in a league of their own when it comes to whining

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Great competitive game by the kids but both sets of parents are obnoxious. Refs should have thrown out parents from both sides for harassing them and both teams have loud mouths screaming at the kids. Poor kids from both teams.

Between all the sideline coaching from the MD parents and the LI parents whining about every call, it got pretty ugly. Tournaments should tell parents positive feedback only or you forfeit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

I heard that FCA enjoys feasting on Crabs...

I'm on a roll today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

are the MD parents the old breakers team because if so they are in a league of their own when it comes to whining

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Great competitive game by the kids but both sets of parents are obnoxious. Refs should have thrown out parents from both sides for harassing them and both teams have loud mouths screaming at the kids. Poor kids from both teams.

Between all the sideline coaching from the MD parents and the LI parents whining about every call, it got pretty ugly. Tournaments should tell parents positive feedback only or you forfeit.

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Md 91
T
Taz 5

Champs, just like LI laxfest.

For those who don't know what a score of T is.
91 MD 6
LI Leg-acy 5

are the MD parents the old breakers team because if so they are in a league of their own when it comes to whining

Great play by both teams, very nice write up of the game on the IL site.

Great competitive game by the kids but both sets of parents are obnoxious. Refs should have thrown out parents from both sides for harassing them and both teams have loud mouths screaming at the kids. Poor kids from both teams.

Between all the sideline coaching from the MD parents and the LI parents whining about every call, it got pretty ugly. Tournaments should tell parents positive feedback only or you forfeit.

Sidelines would have been empty for these two teams all tournament. At least the Legacy big mouths stayed in one place. 9d1 dads pace up and down the sidelibes screaming and sharing their coaching skills and knowledge with everyone in addition to yelling at the players and refs. Good luck to getting their sons recruited with that nonsense. they risk all the players because nobody wants to hear that.

Originally Posted By: Anonymous
FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.
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I didn't think FCA looked that much bigger than Express. I recorded it (it was on cable in the DC area), so will look again. But size difference did not stand out. Express defense did not look great--quick slides with no adjacent help left smaller FCA attackmen open for several dunks. FCA players looked faster, rather than bigger, to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

I heard that FCA enjoys feasting on Crabs...

I'm on a roll today

Your roll is short lived. FCA lost to Crabs a few weeks ago at Crabfeast 9 to 7. It was the battle of the kings of holdbacks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

As a Westchester NY parent, what I just don't get is, both the complete denial about the age discrepancies from Md parents, (even when at every lined up position they're a head taller) and then listening to them on the sidelines as if it was a great accomplishment competing against an obvious younger team. I use the example again of the middie and attackman from the Crabs. What exactly are they getting out of competing against players 1-2 years younger? In baseball, if you're a stud player you're ridiculed if you're not playing up. (Except perhaps in National-type tournaments)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"LI Express 2020 finally had to compete with another top fogo and didn't win 90% of the face offs in the Naptown final game vs FCA. Looks like #25 won less than 50%. Just shows you that when they don't win all the face offs they're just an average team. Also adds to the importance of the fogo at even the 2020 level."

FACT. Been saying this for last couple of years. big attackman so over rated. F/O middie is a great player even if he didn't excel in this matchup though.

Agreed Express Terps attack not very good, sometimes non existant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

Was a blow out! Does FCA play Crush next weekend? That should be interesting!

I know a lot of Dad's pimpin' for their kid's teams. So I'll join in. Preds 2020 had a good year. Won fl$ tourney, beat Igloo in Finals. Went undefeated at Loyola showcase. Lost to a good 3d San Diego team in the quarters at NXT at Towson after beating them earlier in the tourney. (Their FOGO got picked up by Hopkins) And won the NXT Cup, beating a good Georgia team (with one of the top attackmen in the country) twice, 9D1 MD solidly, and fl$ in the finals. Should be considered a top level contender and in the mix next year.

Express '20 Fogo Commits to Navy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a lot of Dad's pimpin' for their kid's teams. So I'll join in. Preds 2020 had a good year. Won fl$ tourney, beat Igloo in Finals. Went undefeated at Loyola showcase. Lost to a good 3d San Diego team in the quarters at NXT at Towson after beating them earlier in the tourney. (Their FOGO got picked up by Hopkins) And won the NXT Cup, beating a good Georgia team (with one of the top attackmen in the country) twice, 9D1 MD solidly, and fl$ in the finals. Should be considered a top level contender and in the mix next year.

Who is Preds? 9d1 team at NXT was their A team - not their AA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

I heard that FCA enjoys feasting on Crabs...

I'm on a roll today

Your roll is short lived. FCA lost to Crabs a few weeks ago at Crabfeast 9 to 7. It was the battle of the kings of holdbacks.

My apologies. The Crabs have had a number of losses lately, it's hard to keep track of who's beaten them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a lot of Dad's pimpin' for their kid's teams. So I'll join in. Preds 2020 had a good year. Won fl$ tourney, beat Igloo in Finals. Went undefeated at Loyola showcase. Lost to a good 3d San Diego team in the quarters at NXT at Towson after beating them earlier in the tourney. (Their FOGO got picked up by Hopkins) And won the NXT Cup, beating a good Georgia team (with one of the top attackmen in the country) twice, 9D1 MD solidly, and fl$ in the finals. Should be considered a top level contender and in the mix next year.

come to a real tournament then. try 4HHH fall invitational or aplly for NLF Boy Latin school nov 6 or NLF in Long Island Nov 20. That is where the top teams will be playing in the Fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express '20 Fogo Commits to Navy.

Think hid dad is a Navy guy

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

I heard that FCA enjoys feasting on Crabs...

I'm on a roll today

Your roll is short lived. FCA lost to Crabs a few weeks ago at Crabfeast 9 to 7. It was the battle of the kings of holdbacks.

My apologies. The Crabs have had a number of losses lately, it's hard to keep track of who's beaten them.

Crab losses are a good thing. Really upsets their leader.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

There are quite a few holdbacks on Md 9 te 1 2020 team. Their coach will try and have you think otherwise but many know the true story.
And people are correct, I am from Md but my son plays on a different 2020 elite team that wasn't in this tournament but have play this team before, and the parents are horrible, just loud and out of control. The coaches ex wife is something else. Her Facebook page is full of BOOM!, WOOP WOOP!, and other crap like that and at the games she is just as loud yelling at the refs as anyone else and out of control. BOOM

A few things I am wondering about:
1. If a kid is going to lots of "showcases" but really isn't that great, will a poor performance as a rising 9th grader possibly hurt his in a year or two? I guess what I am asking, do the coaches in attendance keep a list of kids that have contacted them and just aren't that good or will they look at the kid again in the future, if the kid ends up being better than he is right now

2. Do committed kids continue to play in "all-star" games and do their parents continue to pay big bucks for showcase events?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express '20 Fogo Commits to Navy.

Think hid dad is a Navy guy

Do you think you are breaking news? This has been known about for weeks, and by most early this morning, Too bad the kid didn't kill it last night. but thanks for the update! Nice boy, bright future.

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

There are quite a few holdbacks on Md 9 te 1 2020 team. Their coach will try and have you think otherwise but many know the true story.
And people are correct, I am from Md but my son plays on a different 2020 elite team that wasn't in this tournament but have play this team before, and the parents are horrible, just loud and out of control. The coaches ex wife is something else. Her Facebook page is full of BOOM!, WOOP WOOP!, and other crap like that and at the games she is just as loud yelling at the refs as anyone else and out of control. BOOM

Interesting that you seem to know so much. There are no 16 year olds on the team despite your notion but figured you already know that since you are so personally familiar with a moms fb page. You must be pretty obsessed. Guess your son was a breaker that got cut in the last two years. 91d is one of the few elite teams that is younger - a large number of team goes to public school where you can not hold back. Including both goalies Stop by and check the kids ids or birth certificates some time. Some of The parents are loud side line coaches and harass refs but you just took things to a whole new level out of spite.

FCA= Fellowship of Cheating Athletes

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA over express 10-4, FCA big and good! Holbacks?

It was a game of men vs. boys. Express has a few big boys but nothing like FCA. If not holdbacks, would love to know what they are feeding those kids.

I heard that FCA enjoys feasting on Crabs...

I'm on a roll today

I heard crabs are itchy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know a lot of Dad's pimpin' for their kid's teams. So I'll join in. Preds 2020 had a good year. Won fl$ tourney, beat Igloo in Finals. Went undefeated at Loyola showcase. Lost to a good 3d San Diego team in the quarters at NXT at Towson after beating them earlier in the tourney. (Their FOGO got picked up by Hopkins) And won the NXT Cup, beating a good Georgia team (with one of the top attackmen in the country) twice, 9D1 MD solidly, and fl$ in the finals. Should be considered a top level contender and in the mix next year.

come to a real tournament then. try 4HHH fall invitational or aplly for NLF Boy Latin school nov 6 or NLF in Long Island Nov 20. That is where the top teams will be playing in the Fall.

Sounds like your son's team did have a good year with wins against competitive teams in their bracket. They should challenge themselves by registering as an AA to see how they do there. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Feel free to call the 91 coach and ask for their roster with dob and if you want birth certificates. As noted above, many on the team are public school attendees who can not hold back. there is ONE who could be a holdback. Yes, some summer birthdays but the team is one of the youngest elite teams. Just ask for the roster if you are ready to stop with throwing your bs out there. Good thing is that if you are now onto ripping 91d, they have "made" it on this board and joined FCA, crabs, Looneys, Crush, Edge and all the other elite teams that others like to try and discredit. Ouch. The team had no issue qualifying for wsol last year without guest players or leaving anyone home. Can you say the same or perhaps were not asked?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

There are quite a few holdbacks on Md 9 te 1 2020 team. Their coach will try and have you think otherwise but many know the true story.
And people are correct, I am from Md but my son plays on a different 2020 elite team that wasn't in this tournament but have play this team before, and the parents are horrible, just loud and out of control. The coaches ex wife is something else. Her Facebook page is full of BOOM!, WOOP WOOP!, and other crap like that and at the games she is just as loud yelling at the refs as anyone else and out of control. BOOM

Interesting that you seem to know so much. There are no 16 year olds on the team despite your notion but figured you already know that since you are so personally familiar with a moms fb page. You must be pretty obsessed. Guess your son was a breaker that got cut in the last two years. 91d is one of the few elite teams that is younger - a large number of team goes to public school where you can not hold back. Including both goalies Stop by and check the kids ids or birth certificates some time. Some of The parents are loud side line coaches and harass refs but you just took things to a whole new level out of spite.

. No spite at all, so you are wrong on that count. My son never played for Breakers, would never have him play for coach BJ, have no respect for his coaching abilities and lack of control of his team, was same at Breakers. As for his ex's FB page, only saw it once about 2 weeks ago and it was shown to me by a mother of a 91 player. Even other parents are embarrassed by this individuals actions. Now, re read my post, never said 16 year old, that was the post before mine. But, there are holdbacks on Md 91, deny it all you want. I'm surprised the won this tournament, in the spring HOCO league they were 0/6. Now, how about BJ, former coach of Breakers raiding that program when Md91 came to town. But MM is in charge of Maryland so what can you expect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

There are quite a few holdbacks on Md 9 te 1 2020 team. Their coach will try and have you think otherwise but many know the true story.
And people are correct, I am from Md but my son plays on a different 2020 elite team that wasn't in this tournament but have play this team before, and the parents are horrible, just loud and out of control. The coaches ex wife is something else. Her Facebook page is full of BOOM!, WOOP WOOP!, and other crap like that and at the games she is just as loud yelling at the refs as anyone else and out of control. BOOM

Interesting that you seem to know so much. There are no 16 year olds on the team despite your notion but figured you already know that since you are so personally familiar with a moms fb page. You must be pretty obsessed. Guess your son was a breaker that got cut in the last two years. 91d is one of the few elite teams that is younger - a large number of team goes to public school where you can not hold back. Including both goalies Stop by and check the kids ids or birth certificates some time. Some of The parents are loud side line coaches and harass refs but you just took things to a whole new level out of spite.

. No spite at all, so you are wrong on that count. My son never played for Breakers, would never have him play for coach BJ, have no respect for his coaching abilities and lack of control of his team, was same at Breakers. As for his ex's FB page, only saw it once about 2 weeks ago and it was shown to me by a mother of a 91 player. Even other parents are embarrassed by this individuals actions. Now, re read my post, never said 16 year old, that was the post before mine. But, there are holdbacks on Md 91, deny it all you want. I'm surprised the won this tournament, in the spring HOCO league they were 0/6. Now, how about BJ, former coach of Breakers raiding that program when Md91 came to town. But MM is in charge of Maryland so what can you expect.

Why not just ask for the rosters and any back up you feel you need? The team is not full of holdbacks unless you call 1 , "full". Your "story"' gets better and better and first you attack the ex wife and have moved on to the coach so your credibility is shot and clear you have a personal agenda. Three of those HoCo games were OT, double OT and a triple OT . One was a loss in regular play by 1, to the FCA team that just won nap town. Looneys they remained tie with until end of 4th quarter and just went to OT with them this weekend with their floor-would love to see any team more competitive. None of these are one offs - the team has been competitive since they decided as a TEAM to move to 9d1 from Breakers for reasons that the families making the decision for their boys need to be comfortable with. A coach can not raid a club of happy families. Haters going to hate. Carry on. Believe you were just about to start your rant on mm. Why not just jump right to the personal stuff having nothing to do withlacrosse?

wOOP WOOP BOOM!!!!! Nothing personal but you seem to lack some reading comprehension.

Virtually any team in the 2020 HOCO elite division is better than 99% of the teams across the country. Crush being the 1%. Even though 90+1 went 0-6 in HOCO they are a good team. Having said that - their coach is a loud mouth and their parents are awful. They are not full of Holdbacks. If you want Holdbacks looks at Crabs and FCA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

If the 91 goalie was 15 he was playing against a team that is half 13 years olds. Bravo!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

MD Maryland dad should be proud of his 16 year old Goalie! Can't wait till he faces kids his own age and isn't able to be a bully on the field!

Agree he is a dirty player along with his brother but given the dads sideline behavior this is not shocking. But he is not 16 having played with the family before.

He already plays with seniors and made and allstar game for rising seniors when he's never play a highschool game. Plus he's not 16. Sounds like somebody's a little upset because he didn't allow your son to score and embarrassed him infront of everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Virtually any team in the 2020 HOCO elite division is better than 99% of the teams across the country. Crush being the 1%. Even though 90+1 went 0-6 in HOCO they are a good team. Having said that - their coach is a loud mouth and their parents are awful. They are not full of Holdbacks. If you want Holdbacks looks at Crabs and FCA.

I think 99% is a bit optimistic, many other teams that would fit right in there - Express, tomahawks, leading edge, laxachusetts to name just a few. #stayhumble

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Virtually any team in the 2020 HOCO elite division is better than 99% of the teams across the country. Crush being the 1%. Even though 90+1 went 0-6 in HOCO they are a good team. Having said that - their coach is a loud mouth and their parents are awful. They are not full of Holdbacks. If you want Holdbacks looks at Crabs and FCA.

Agree. The coach needs to check his own behavior, that of the 2-3 dirty players and the parents on the side lines. The damage being done to the reputation of the team and the kids who are serious about playing at the next level will be ruined by the behavior of the parents and the out of control kids. 91d should seriously look at the coaching if the team had that many 1 point or OT games. Sounds like most of the kids have the talent but perhaps the coaching in critical situations could use improvement- and not from the sidelines. Sure way to lose the games with kids being shouted at from all directions in heated games. And the one dad....put him in his car or his kid does not play. If it means no goalie then the whole team learns the hard way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He already plays with seniors and made and allstar game for rising seniors when he's never play a highschool game. Plus he's not 16. Sounds like somebody's a little upset because he didn't allow your son to score and embarrassed him infront of everyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He already plays with seniors and made and allstar game for rising seniors when he's never play a highschool game. Plus he's not 16. Sounds like somebody's a little upset because he didn't allow your son to score and embarrassed him infront of everyone.

At the elite level there are a lot of kids who already play with seniors not having seen a high school field especially public school kids where club players stand out. He technically should be a rising sophomore so age and size wise that is not so far fetched. A great goalie but is not a good sport and is dirty and the community knows it. You can be both and if you want to get into a good college, you need to be both.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

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Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Tomahawks, Looneys and legacy lame teams to have beat? Funny. Your coach should have checked he line up before signing you up for a session above your teams level. every team has injuries at this point of the season but you are right in that every team does not have a fogo who walks away from his team mates because he loses. That may be your problem- team mates do not do that. 91d one does have a particularly obnoxious loud mouthed dad who roams the sidelines but the kids stick together as a team and do not leave one another hanging.

Predator Dad. Agree with your assessment. We've played you twice this year--once to a tie and once to a one goal loss. Both great games. You have a good squad that competes with any team out there. All teams cant always be at the same tournaments for logistical and political reasons but doesn't mean your not playing good competition--there are plenty of good teams out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
91 MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

If the 91 goalie was 15 he was playing against a team that is half 13 years olds. Bravo!

Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Lots of kids got lots of looks from top schools which is what events like this are for. Sorry you did not win a game, don't trash the tournament for that though. I assume this is same PrimeTime team that got blanked at platinum cup? 0-8 in 2 marquee events is tough, maybe you need to reset expectations instead of throwing rocks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

If the 91 goalie was 15 he was playing against a team that is half 13 years olds. Bravo!

Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Nobody said he wasn't 15 either...just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
91 MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

Just alittle biased not having Legacy on the list. They have beaten or tied many on the list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

If the 91 goalie was 15 he was playing against a team that is half 13 years olds. Bravo!

Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91 are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

Would agree that the post was not the best choice but that was on the 91 NY Twitter account so take it up with JS personally since you keep mentioning him. It did not originate out of Maryland. Maybe your team is playing in the wrong place if you are going to whine about their age. 2020 MD are age legit 2020s for the state of Maryland. Yes, it is is a 3 month difference in age reqs to ny but that we have no control over. You know this, enter tournaments here and then complain about being younger. Restructure you team to older 2020s or stop complaining. You are just grasping now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

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Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

You seem to have a way with words and making stuff up. Nobody said it was not a close game. The boys all played well. 91 won against the team twice over the course of he tournament. You started the accusations and excuses why you lost and are now backtracking. Spend more time celebrating your win over Looneys rather than your two losses to 91. #movingon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

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Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

How come on some forums your team claims they are not the same as the WSOL team and others times you say it is? All the team mixing must get confusing. If you truly brought a team that was 13 as of May 1st to a 2020 event than blame your coaches but do not trash the other teams saying they are older or the tournament. That is on you and your coaches to research.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

If the 91 goalie was 15 he was playing against a team that is half 13 years olds. Bravo!

Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

Would agree that the post was not the best choice but that was on the 9d1 NY Twitter account so take it up with JS personally since you keep mentioning him. It did not originate out of Maryland. Maybe your team is playing in the wrong place if you are going to whine about their age. 2020 MD are age legit 2020s for the state of Maryland. Yes, it is is a 3 month difference in age reqs to ny but that we have no control over. You know this, enter tournaments here and then complain about being younger. Restructure you team to older 2020s or stop complaining. You are just grasping now.

Listen, congratulations on the win. I did not post the original post. The social media posts I saw on Instagram and Twitter can from the MD part of the organization. No one is complaining. Just see things how they are. 1. Taz is 1/2 the roster of WSYL team...not the same 24 players. 2. The WSYL team played in age based tnmt where all were equal and won it all. 3. You know for the most part the MD team, as most MD teams are, are generally older and it does give you an advantage. 4. Not our fault for the NY cutoff...our players are 2020s for NY so we are playing 2020. They are younger but talented. Good luck with rest of your season. Until we meet again keep playing that's what it is all about!

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
[****] MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

OUTLAWS????? SWEETLAX delusionsal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, congratulations on the win. I did not post the original post. The social media posts I saw on Instagram and Twitter can from the MD part of the organization. No one is complaining. Just see things how they are. 1. Taz is 1/2 the roster of WSYL team...not the same 24 players. 2. The WSYL team played in age based tnmt where all were equal and won it all. 3. You know for the most part the MD team, as most MD teams are, are generally older and it does give you an advantage. 4. Not our fault for the NY cutoff...our players are 2020s for NY so we are playing 2020. They are younger but talented. Good luck with rest of your season. Until we meet again keep playing that's what it is all about!

Nicely said. Let's all keep it civil out there and let the boys play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD 2020 91= A team of 2019 rejects trying to make a name for themselves playing younger kids. Pathetic. If I was the parent,I would be hiding hoping someone I know doesn't recognize me! Does JS approve of this disrespect of his brand? After all, his flagship team only has 4!

Spare us the dramatics. The kids are 2020 legitimate. As stated above, ask for their roster or birth certificates if you choose or go back to old tournament mites and check their ages - they are not holdbacks or double holdbacks- they are a good team that is doing well and that just bugs you While you hide on an anonymous message board spreading rumors/lies.

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Nobody said he was 15 but nice try and good attempt to justify your loss. You should be a bit more gracious in losing. The average age for 2020 is 14 - 91d are all age legit and the team qualified for wsol last year by age so please take your hate somewhere else. They may be other things but the team is not a holdback, double holdback, triple holdback or any other age duped team.

Your team won by 1 point. Hardly a convincing win. Your organization is embarrassing themselves posting that they beat the World Series team. The WSYL was age based, nobody played down...impossible to do in age based tournament. Half this team was 13 as of May 1 of this year. They are younger. At least JS has class. Surprised he lets you all get away with acting so low class.

How come on some forums your team claims they are not the same as the WSOL team and others times you say it is? All the team mixing must get confusing. If you truly brought a team that was 13 as of May 1st to a 2020 event than blame your coaches but do not trash the other teams saying they are older or the tournament. That is on you and your coaches to research.

The Taz players on WSOL were pretty much all older than the 7th graders they versed. The do not look nearly outstanding playing their own grade, could it be that they are now playing older kids which is why they are not standing out? What comes around, goes around. And I am not accusing anyone of cheating, just seems everyone in youth lax these days is pushing the limits to win. Playing down, adding players, political bs, etc. Not so much fun for the boys who just want to play with their buddies and enjoy a fair experience

Dirty? Not once have I seen him do anything dirty. I've watched the kid play a bunch. He makes a bunch of big times saves and gets excited. Any kid that makes saves likes him would get excited too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
91 MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

Edge Canada beat Tomahawks last week. Taz beat Looneys. Sweetlax beat Edge. Who did Outlaws and Leading Edge beat? Many of the teams are playing this weekend and next, we should have a much better idea then

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
91 MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

Edge Canada beat Tomahawks last week. Taz beat Looneys. Sweetlax beat Edge. Who did Outlaws and Leading Edge beat? Many of the teams are playing this weekend and next, we should have a much better idea then

Could go back and forth which is why any top ranking of these teams is ridiculous. Too many 1 point, overtime, upsets etc. in the 2020s - they are all talented teams and each weekend proves that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the summer season is winding down does someone want to do a top 10 or 20?

Crush
Looneys
WCS
Crabs
FCA
Laxachusetts
Hawks
Sons
91 MD
Tomahawks
LI Express
Leading Edge
LI Outlaws
Next Level
Sweetlax NY
16-20 Who cares

Edge Canada beat Tomahawks last week. Taz beat Looneys. Sweetlax beat Edge. Who did Outlaws and Leading Edge beat? Many of the teams are playing this weekend and next, we should have a much better idea then

Edge beat out Laxachusetts, Tomahalks, and Leading Edge to win The Legacy tournament last week after losing to Sweetlax the week before. Edge definitely should be in there, upper part of list!

15 players on Taz played in Wsyl that's a significant number and to be fair not many of the other kids touched the field at all! As a parent of one of the ones that played sparingly Taz played in the WSYL by name or not

you guys are mad because he is really good and your sons cant score on him

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys are mad because he is really good and your sons cant score on him

Boys, go back to chasing Pokemon and enjoy your trip/last tournament.
You should not be out here. doing stuff like this is why you are getting labelled and It will affect your prospects. Nobody will find it funny.

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

I am literally disgusted with this immature display from supposed "parents". why don't you all grow up and act your age and stop acting like children. The insults and trash talk need to stop. obviously you are all jealous because 91 plays fair and still wins.

Well it's true, he is very good. You guys are the "adults" 40 and 50 years old who have jobs and are bashing an 8th grader under and anonymous accounts. Seems like you guys should be the ones find something better to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

15 players on Taz played in Wsyl that's a significant number and to be fair not many of the other kids touched the field at all! As a parent of one of the ones that played sparingly Taz played in the WSYL by name or not

You just proved you were not on the WSYL team. Wrong number of players from Taz. It is several less than 15 and yes they all played, this includes the tournament play not televised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

Sorry mommy! You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

Boom

Team 91🚒. THE CHAMPS ARE HERE

Primetime is better than a few mentioned and i would say Lax Yellow as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boom

No, it's WHOOP WHOOP BOOM!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

12 of 22 is more than half the team which is unusual for an elite team in the Baltimore area. it was pointed out because they can not hold back. The remaining 10 are not holdbacks but can not seem to get you off that particular trail so unless you want to go to 91ny up in your neck of the woods and get their birthdates, report cards whatever, then please get off the topic. You really are looking rather petty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

You need to go back and reread the above post. No one is saying anything about the kids behavior in that post. The conduct of parents goes beyond the one dad you mentioned. It is many of the parents on this team that act out of line during games as does the head coach yelling at refs, most times without cause. Plus, my sons 2020 elite team was not in this tournament, so your point that my son lost a game is misguided.
It is up to the head coach to address the conduct of the parents during a game. This should be addressed well before a game, most teams head coach communicates via email to parents/players regarding upcoming events, sideline conduct during games etc. It is not up to other teams to address the conduct of your teams parents.
As for holdbacks, that is a discussion for another day. But, go read your own roster and see where many of these kids go to school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

Ok mommy, sorry I misbehaved! Lol!! This is 8th grade lax for crying out loud! Everyone is cheating and obnoxious, get used to it, or take up sailing!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

Ok mommy, sorry I misbehaved! Lol!! This is 8th grade lax for crying out loud! Everyone is cheating and obnoxious, get used to it, or take up sailing!

And therein lies the problem. Apple meet tree.

Hilarious you people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

12 of 22 is more than half the team which is unusual for an elite team in the Baltimore area. it was pointed out because they can not hold back. The remaining 10 are not holdbacks but can not seem to get you off that particular trail so unless you want to go to 91ny up in your neck of the woods and get their birthdates, report cards whatever, then please get off the topic. You really are looking rather petty.

Your post makes no sense at all. I'm from Md. and 91ny has nothing to do with this. This is about 91md and their roster. A 91md parent stated that a large part of their roster attends public school. Well, as you pointed out 12 out of 22 is more than half that attend private school and there lies the opportunity to hold back. Public school kids can't, but there are only 10 public school kids on the 91md roster. Only one who seems to look petty is you, not stating the facts correctly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Lots of kids got lots of looks from top schools which is what events like this are for. Sorry you did not win a game, don't trash the tournament for that though. I assume this is same PrimeTime team that got blanked at platinum cup? 0-8 in 2 marquee events is tough, maybe you need to reset expectations instead of throwing rocks.

Putting aside the record of PT 2020 (PT 2017-2019 went 14-1, and some of those parents were complaining about winning most of their games by very wide margins), I guess where we differ in opinion, and I understand it is the current state of summer lacrosse, do 2020 kids really need "lots of looks" at a team cost of 1800$, plus then each individual player pays an additional $325. ??? Notre Dame, Delaware & Lehigh were basically it on Saturday. Honestly can't speak for Hiram College, Detroit Mercy, Moravian, Gaucher, Catawba College etc...

91 md is full of hold backs! Full leg hair and beard is not typical of a rising freshman. Too many fit that description to be an exception. Sorry we all know the truth, if otherwise why doesn't the team momma post the position and birthdate of all players, we're waiting! And no fudging!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Lots of kids got lots of looks from top schools which is what events like this are for. Sorry you did not win a game, don't trash the tournament for that though. I assume this is same PrimeTime team that got blanked at platinum cup? 0-8 in 2 marquee events is tough, maybe you need to reset expectations instead of throwing rocks.

Putting aside the record of PT 2020 (PT 2017-2019 went 14-1, and some of those parents were complaining about winning most of their games by very wide margins), I guess where we differ in opinion, and I understand it is the current state of summer lacrosse, do 2020 kids really need "lots of looks" at a team cost of 1800$, plus then each individual player pays an additional $325. ??? Notre Dame, Delaware & Lehigh were basically it on Saturday. Honestly can't speak for Hiram College, Detroit Mercy, Moravian, Gaucher, Catawba College etc...

Wait. The cost of playing in Inside Lacrosse tournament was $1800 plus 325 for each kid??? They pulled in around $9K per team??? wth. If your kid was in this please verify

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 md is full of hold backs! Full leg hair and beard is not typical of a rising freshman. Too many fit that description to be an exception. Sorry we all know the truth, if otherwise why doesn't the team momma post the position and birthdate of all players, we're waiting! And no fudging!

Can you show me ANY "elite" 2020 team that is entirely age appropriate? All of the Maryland teams are notorious for holding back, but Laxachusetts, Rising Sons and others have it down too. While we are at it dont forget Crush, Express Terps, Leg A See Taz and For the Love of the Green. So as the parent of a 5/02 DOB kid this whole thing offends me but it is what it is until the rules change. Lets just stop singling out MD as the only offenders.....All the top teams are up to the eyeballs with this stuff.

well said all the teams have holdbacks/reclass even the teams that lost all of their games. you cant only cry foul when you lose.
Just let the kids compete.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not quite sure how one particular MD parent (goalie's father?) loudly & obnoxiously coaching from the sidelines made it through the day. Already started during the Prime Time game, face was already turning red & looking like a cardiac arrest was imminent. But they did win, so at least now his life must feel complete.....

Prime time parents were pretty fired up too. They won so maybe the expert "coaching" helped.

Sure they were fired up, they were 0-4, their FOGO left the team the night before,(after Looney's FOGO embarassed him 15 out of 15) and 2 attack were kept out due to injuries. And after 1 period they were up 1-0. And that's when this slob decided to stand behind a group of PT parents made up of mostly mothers and be obnoxiously loud throughout the rest of the game. Again congratulations, to this lard-[lacrosse] on winning a rather lame, a total money rip-off 6 team tournament and furthering the reputation of certain Md. parents.

Lots of kids got lots of looks from top schools which is what events like this are for. Sorry you did not win a game, don't trash the tournament for that though. I assume this is same PrimeTime team that got blanked at platinum cup? 0-8 in 2 marquee events is tough, maybe you need to reset expectations instead of throwing rocks.

Putting aside the record of PT 2020 (PT 2017-2019 went 14-1, and some of those parents were complaining about winning most of their games by very wide margins), I guess where we differ in opinion, and I understand it is the current state of summer lacrosse, do 2020 kids really need "lots of looks" at a team cost of 1800$, plus then each individual player pays an additional $325. ??? Notre Dame, Delaware & Lehigh were basically it on Saturday. Honestly can't speak for Hiram College, Detroit Mercy, Moravian, Gaucher, Catawba College etc...

Wait. The cost of playing in Inside Lacrosse tournament was $1800 plus 325 for each kid??? They pulled in around $9K per team??? wth. If your kid was in this please verify

I'm not 100% sure of the $ for the team fee, but when registering a 2020 player you also needed to pay $325 to be in their 'IL Recruiting Book". I'm guessing that's not a year to year recurring fee but who knows these days...coming from NY, taking off from work, needing a hotel, plus these fees it was a rather expensive 3 day tournament for a kid who is more concerned with starting high school than being looked at for college. I confess, I'm a zombie parent to my kid and I really need to start looking closer at the 'worth' of these events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

You need to go back and reread the above post. No one is saying anything about the kids behavior in that post. The conduct of parents goes beyond the one dad you mentioned. It is many of the parents on this team that act out of line during games as does the head coach yelling at refs, most times without cause. Plus, my sons 2020 elite team was not in this tournament, so your point that my son lost a game is misguided.
It is up to the head coach to address the conduct of the parents during a game. This should be addressed well before a game, most teams head coach communicates via email to parents/players regarding upcoming events, sideline conduct during games etc. It is not up to other teams to address the conduct of your teams parents.
As for holdbacks, that is a discussion for another day. But, go read your own roster and see where many of these kids go to school.

I'm the original PT parent who posted because I was annoyed at one particular father's rather class-less behavior. And it seems he has this reputation. But not sure it should have devolved into total team bashing. During our 2 games the Md. 91 parents were no different than any other teams parents, in fact during our second game they were rather subdued. (Perhaps in shock they were trailing most of the game to a team they just beat by 10 goals the night before?) And it's that point that the players should be given a lot of credit for winning a game they were trailing 5-3, with under 4 minutes to go. And then even more credit for beating 2 tough teams to win the chip. This whole holdback thing is a lacrosse issue that won't go away until they go age-based. Personally I don't understand how colleges can early commit to players who are competing against younger competition, as opposed to baseball where they won't look at you unless you're competing up one or two age levels. And for the record PT has 3 or 4 holdbacks from a local Ct. Prep school. Congrats to the Md. 88+3 boys who won the IL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

You need to go back and reread the above post. No one is saying anything about the kids behavior in that post. The conduct of parents goes beyond the one dad you mentioned. It is many of the parents on this team that act out of line during games as does the head coach yelling at refs, most times without cause. Plus, my sons 2020 elite team was not in this tournament, so your point that my son lost a game is misguided.
It is up to the head coach to address the conduct of the parents during a game. This should be addressed well before a game, most teams head coach communicates via email to parents/players regarding upcoming events, sideline conduct during games etc. It is not up to other teams to address the conduct of your teams parents.
As for holdbacks, that is a discussion for another day. But, go read your own roster and see where many of these kids go to school.

I'm the original PT parent who posted because I was annoyed at one particular father's rather class-less behavior. And it seems he has this reputation. But not sure it should have devolved into total team bashing. During our 2 games the Md. 91 parents were no different than any other teams parents, in fact during our second game they were rather subdued. (Perhaps in shock they were trailing most of the game to a team they just beat by 10 goals the night before?) And it's that point that the players should be given a lot of credit for winning a game they were trailing 5-3, with under 4 minutes to go. And then even more credit for beating 2 tough teams to win the chip. This whole holdback thing is a lacrosse issue that won't go away until they go age-based. Personally I don't understand how colleges can early commit to players who are competing against younger competition, as opposed to baseball where they won't look at you unless you're competing up one or two age levels. And for the record PT has 3 or 4 holdbacks from a local Ct. Prep school. Congrats to the Md. 88+3 boys who won the IL.

What this comes down to...91MD coach needs to clear his parent sideline if there is any hope of any player on his team getting recruited. Scouts watch parents just as much as they watch players. The coach's own has not a prayer. His mom has ruined it for him, and he has never been coached by anyone but daddy, and daddy's attitude is that of an obnoxious pathological liar who will cheat to win at all costs. End of discussion. You all are giving too much of your energy to 91md. They revel in everyone's hate for them. Stop feeding into it. Every team has holdbacks. If they say they don't, they are full of [lacrosse]. Move on. Pick another topic because this one is getting boring. Oh, and one more thing...people, stop calling others out about posting anonymously. As far as I can tell, ALL OF YOU post as anonymous.

this is probably the most classless thing i have ever read. Please mind your own business and keep that family's name out of your mouth. You must be mad that "BJ" is a better coach than you will ever be and that he plays fairly and wins. Why dont you grow a pear and say this to peoples faces instead of complaining on an anonymous website just to bash someone. Sounds like somebody is a bit jealous and also a coward!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

this is probably the most classless thing i have ever read. Please mind your own business and keep that family's name out of your mouth. You must be mad that "BJ" is a better coach than you will ever be and that he plays fairly and wins. Why dont you grow a pear and say this to peoples faces instead of complaining on an anonymous website just to bash someone. Sounds like somebody is a bit jealous and also a coward!!!

I sincerely do not believe anyone is jealous or a coward. What that poster stated in the absolute truth about BJ and the way he coaches/acts. He was the exact same way when he coached Breakers and a travel team from the Catonsville program. I have seen him many many times and nothing changes with him.
What your problem is that you don't like seeing the truth posted. He has no control over his team and how they act, nor does he have any control over his son and how he plays. He has been his sons coach since he began playing lax and that has hurt his son. His son could of had some potential but BJ lets him do whatever he wants and that has hurt him. He is a selfish player, hardly ever give up the ball, only wants to score. Look at stats, very very few assists, only wants to score and he will shoot from anywhere, not looking for an open team mate.
I know this sounds critical and perhaps it is but this is what the end result is when you have someone like BJ as your coach. Most kids are better off not having daddy as the coach, they can grow and respond better with someone coaching them other than daddy.
As for BJ playing fairly, he doesn't and I will leave it at that.
And yes, his ex has done harm to their son by the way she acts. It is absolutely true that college coaches not only look at the player but at the parents. If they see what they don't like in the parents, regardless of the players potential, they will pass and move on.
Oh, and it's grow a "pair" not "pear".
Sometimes the truth hurts but it is what it is. Sorry.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

this is probably the most classless thing i have ever read. Please mind your own business and keep that family's name out of your mouth. You must be mad that "BJ" is a better coach than you will ever be and that he plays fairly and wins. Why dont you grow a pear and say this to peoples faces instead of complaining on an anonymous website just to bash someone. Sounds like somebody is a bit jealous and also a coward!!!

If you are a 91 parent/fan, why aren't you up in NY where they are playing. If you are you will know 91Md ended the day at 0 and 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is actually one of the most disgusting displays i have ever seen from "parents" you would think that you are all about 5 years old. This is a game, that is being played by boys, who are all well within the age/schooling requirements be on the 2020 91 team. Everyone who has said something rude or negative on this anonymous forum should be ashamed of themselves. This is the most immature thing i have ever read and you all should be disputed with the way that you have acted. Restoring to an anonymous forum to talk trash about a team that plays fairly is how we can tell that you are all mad because 91 plays fairly and they won. I think that it would be a wise decision for all you to keep it closed and the keep the comments and insults about the parents. I am literally disgusted with the behavior from all of you "parents". Why don't you all grow up and learn to have some class.

No one is mad that 91 won. As to playing fairly, that is another completely different story. Not all of this team or a large part of this team attends public school, 12 of the 22 attend private school, go look at your own roster, it is clear as day.
As to your denial of holdbacks, that doesn't hold water, they are on this team, just stand up and admit that you have some, other teams admit it.
As for acting childish on this board, what you need to do is step back at a 91 game and just observe how the coach and parents are acting. That will quickly tell you what needs to change on this team quickly or any chance of prospects being noticed will vanish, college coaches don't want to deal with this. I'm mentioning this for the good of the team, there are a few talented players but with parents acting like Md91 parents act, you will get overlooked and passed by.

So we have established some -note some- of the parents are embarrassing but the boys did not cheat, did not display anything but sportsmanlike behavior so how did one dad screaming his bloody head off becme bashing a team that played well and did not misbehave in any way?? If you have a problem with that dad or the parent/s fine but leave the kids who work hard alone. Your claims of unfair, cheating and being holdbacks is totally unfounded and we understand it is out of frustration but you are being unreasonable. Buy the tapes, review the tapes objectively and you will see the team does nothing wrong- they play fair and clean. Speak with the parents if you have an issue with their behavior but for God sake don't pick on other peoples children because you are upset over your child's team losing a game. Chances are your son has moved on. It is time you do too.

You need to go back and reread the above post. No one is saying anything about the kids behavior in that post. The conduct of parents goes beyond the one dad you mentioned. It is many of the parents on this team that act out of line during games as does the head coach yelling at refs, most times without cause. Plus, my sons 2020 elite team was not in this tournament, so your point that my son lost a game is misguided.
It is up to the head coach to address the conduct of the parents during a game. This should be addressed well before a game, most teams head coach communicates via email to parents/players regarding upcoming events, sideline conduct during games etc. It is not up to other teams to address the conduct of your teams parents.
As for holdbacks, that is a discussion for another day. But, go read your own roster and see where many of these kids go to school.

I'm the original PT parent who posted because I was annoyed at one particular father's rather class-less behavior. And it seems he has this reputation. But not sure it should have devolved into total team bashing. During our 2 games the Md. 91 parents were no different than any other teams parents, in fact during our second game they were rather subdued. (Perhaps in shock they were trailing most of the game to a team they just beat by 10 goals the night before?) And it's that point that the players should be given a lot of credit for winning a game they were trailing 5-3, with under 4 minutes to go. And then even more credit for beating 2 tough teams to win the chip. This whole holdback thing is a lacrosse issue that won't go away until they go age-based. Personally I don't understand how colleges can early commit to players who are competing against younger competition, as opposed to baseball where they won't look at you unless you're competing up one or two age levels. And for the record PT has 3 or 4 holdbacks from a local Ct. Prep school. Congrats to the Md. 88+3 boys who won the IL.

It is great you are acknowledging that these boys played hard and most of their parents were fine, unfortunately the team/boys reputation has now taken a hit for no reason within their control due to overzealous internet mentality. We can all learn from this. clearly there was someone just waiting for the opportinity to bash the team - with most comments totally fabricated. Hopefully, the dad you originally commented about is on these boards and recognizes himself, how his sideline coaching/behavior led to damage to the whole team and personal attacks on the coach and his family. Having been through this process, the truth is that he and other dads like him on all teams everywhere will affect prospects for the boys and they either need to be quiet as most often they are confusing the boys more, stay off the sidelines or their son needs to have their play time limited when their parents beahvior becomes an issue which sometimes is the only consequence these guys understand.

Isnt it funny how when you run a tournament 5 kids from your program in each grade magically turn out to be All Stars from among the 170 teams that showed up? Then lets blast it out to the free world via Twitter. #absolutelyshameless

Amazing how the 91 coach has a certain kid pinned on this Twitter. As if that coach doesn't do everything he can to promote a certain kid plus 3 others and ignores the rest of the team who pays good money to fly out to tournaments. Incredible the ego that guy has.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isnt it funny how when you run a tournament 5 kids from your program in each grade magically turn out to be All Stars from among the 170 teams that showed up? Then lets blast it out to the free world via Twitter. #absolutelyshameless

Glad somebody started talking about something other than a mediocre team with crazy parents!!!

Is the tournament you're talking about fl$ in MD? If yes, I agree, very fishy, although there are not to many good teams there, so the idea of an all-star is all in perspective!

I have a good one about "all-star" teams. There was a tournament earlier this summer in MD. And one player (a coaches son) didn't play in a game and a half (out of 3 games) because he was hurt. When the all-star roster was announced his name wasn't on it, which I am sure made his dad's head explode. Well amazingly, he ended up playing in that all-star game. Not sure what is more interesting:
1. That he made the team and didn't play in the games
2. That he was well enough to represent himself, but couldn't play to help his team
3. That he wasn't even on the list and played

Not surprised with this particualr organization....

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

Taz lost to Rising Sons 8-4 on Saturday and lost today to NH Tomahawks in the Quaterfinals.

Taz is s joke. Won the WSYL because no one showed up..hahaha
They looked so stupid celebrating with their donuts. Lol
Rising Sons showed them what a real team looks like. Go Sons!

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz is s joke. Won the WSYL because no one showed up..hahaha
They looked so stupid celebrating with their donuts. Lol
Rising Sons showed them what a real team looks like. Go Sons!

I agree that Taz took advantage of an opportunity to win WSYL, but other teams tried that too and were beat down in the name of JS and co. Taz is still a very good team, amongst about 10 other very good teams. There seem to be 2-3 a little better as of now, being Crush, Looneys, FCA, otherwise it's a back and forth. Very strong group, who are making each other better with the competition.

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Express vs crush was actually kind of close(7-4). Anybody know if the game was actually this close?
Is this a sign that maybe Looneys, FCA, or Crabs could take them?

It was a great game please keep in mind that while the teams and coaches are friends it is VERY much a rivalry game. Express did a great job limiting Big lefty but big mid and small attack man did the damage. Crush fogo did not play. Express had a great tourn handling Laxachusetts by 5

Summer lacrosse season is so broken. I'm sure because of money. This 5&6 games every weekend playing on one hour off the next is just ridiculous. Especially as the kids get older and are at the recruitable age. If I was a college coach I would never go to day two of the tournaments. Many teams gassed. Soon someone will get smart and set it up so its one regulation game Friday, one saturday morning, one saturday afternoon and on Sunday and be done. No championship, no playoffs just great match ups. Have committee look at game one scores and make match ups for game 2 and repeat. Playoffs, were talking about playoffs?? Who gives a sh*#. Out of the very mouths of all these lax guys is that scores don't matter to college coaches, then why beat these kids into the ground for 6 games? knuckle f*###### heads. Summer needs overhaul.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

so looney's won the NXT event without their FOGO that would explain the close game against Hardcor.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer lacrosse season is so broken. I'm sure because of money. This 5&6 games every weekend playing on one hour off the next is just ridiculous. Especially as the kids get older and are at the recruitable age. If I was a college coach I would never go to day two of the tournaments. Many teams gassed. Soon someone will get smart and set it up so its one regulation game Friday, one saturday morning, one saturday afternoon and on Sunday and be done. No championship, no playoffs just great match ups. Have committee look at game one scores and make match ups for game 2 and repeat. Playoffs, were talking about playoffs?? Who gives a sh*#. Out of the very mouths of all these lax guys is that scores don't matter to college coaches, then why beat these kids into the ground for 6 games? knuckle f*###### heads. Summer needs overhaul.

Agree

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

so looney's won the NXT event without their FOGO that would explain the close game against Hardcor.

Hard Cor from Canada is evidently following the formula that Edge uses.
Their drunken parents on the sideline said most of their kids were born in 2001.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

so looney's won the NXT event without their FOGO that would explain the close game against Hardcor.

Hard Cor from Canada is evidently following the formula that Edge uses.
Their drunken parents on the sideline said most of their kids were born in 2001.

Sorry to hear parents were drunk your beer is so cheap compared to what we pay. So can someone confirm if fogo played or didn't play. Both Edge and Hardcor just own up to the age thing where most just outright fib. Is it going to matter next year when they all are in HS.

You guys are losers who failed at life and now live through your sons and gossip youth lacrosse on an Internet forum

The Hard Cor parents were the worst I have ever seen. Drunk, yelling profanities at the kids, a true disgrace to the sport.

Having see the Looneys play multiple times - the FOGO is a huge advantage. Possessions win games. However, he is NOT the whole team. There are a lot of skilled players. He is an important piece of their puzzle - but against most teams (excluding HOCO teams and Crush) they are going to win 9 times out of 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Hard Cor parents were the worst I have ever seen. Drunk, yelling profanities at the kids, a true disgrace to the sport.

Should see them at Box.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrads. to Looneys 2020....won it all in downingtown.
All heart...beat up and no Fogo.

so looney's won the NXT event without their FOGO that would explain the close game against Hardcor.

Hard Cor from Canada is evidently following the formula that Edge uses.
Their drunken parents on the sideline said most of their kids were born in 2001.

Sorry to hear parents were drunk your beer is so cheap compared to what we pay. So can someone confirm if fogo played or didn't play. Both Edge and Hardcor just own up to the age thing where most just outright fib. Is it going to matter next year when they all are in HS.

Looney's FOGO did not play the entire weekend. He is sick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Hard Cor parents were the worst I have ever seen. Drunk, yelling profanities at the kids, a true disgrace to the sport.

Should see them at Box.

Hockey anyone?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You guys are losers who failed at life and now live through your sons and gossip youth lacrosse on an Internet forum

Right back at you! I'm assuming you're a successful multi-millionaire who has taken time off from her philanthropic ways just to admonish us peons who frequent this site. Thank you.

Hard Cor was big and talented...BUT...nasty, as were parents.
Looneys fast ball movement won out, several boys did well at face off, since Looneys star was still hurt.
Fun to watch..

Nice try, Crush would still dominate. Looked like they were sloppy yesterday.

WHO was sloppy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice try, Crush would still dominate. Looked like they were sloppy yesterday.

Ok. I give up, who is "they"?

3rd Looneys player going to UNC..2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hard Cor was big and talented...BUT...nasty, as were parents.
Looneys fast ball movement won out, several boys did well at face off, since Looneys star was still hurt.
Fun to watch..

big because they are all 2001's how many 2001 play on the other teams honestly. Sometimes we are under the opinion that we are older but when we asked a parent what year their son is born in we get quoted a grad year. Who doesn't know what year their child is born in. Unless you have like 7+ kids.

I think many of these posts are from kids. At least I hope so. The kids will hopefully grow out of this. If parents are posting this nonsense, please spend some time reflecting on where you are in your life. I post this because numerous people mentioned to me that specific coaches, parents, and kids are referenced, and that many posts easily reference particular kids - names or not. The goalie from so and so, the coach's son, etc. I did not believe it.

Well, what I've read is disgusting. This is youth lacrosse and should be placed in perspective. If you were happy where you are in life, you would not spend energy bashing other kids, parents and coaches. Plain and simple.

And to the "owners" of this forum, enough with the auto edits for team names. Its childish and feeds the general lack of maturity displayed many of the posters. I know, "it's your forum," but whether I like it or not, kids read it and you should take some responsibility for properly editing as necessary. Blacking out team names because you have some playground beef with someone should not be one of those times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

What position? Where?

Wow. The poster got the air rights before Ty Xanders !! Middie going to Hopkins

CRush 2020 mid to JHU

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having see the Looneys play multiple times - the FOGO is a huge advantage. Possessions win games. However, he is NOT the whole team. There are a lot of skilled players. He is an important piece of their puzzle - but against most teams (excluding HOCO teams and Crush) they are going to win 9 times out of 10.

Four players on this team verbally committed this past week. The FLOGO is not the whole team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

BOOOOOOM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think many of these posts are from kids. At least I hope so. The kids will hopefully grow out of this. If parents are posting this nonsense, please spend some time reflecting on where you are in your life. I post this because numerous people mentioned to me that specific coaches, parents, and kids are referenced, and that many posts easily reference particular kids - names or not. The goalie from so and so, the coach's son, etc. I did not believe it.

Well, what I've read is disgusting. This is youth lacrosse and should be placed in perspective. If you were happy where you are in life, you would not spend energy bashing other kids, parents and coaches. Plain and simple.

And to the "owners" of this forum, enough with the auto edits for team names. Its childish and feeds the general lack of maturity displayed many of the posters. I know, "it's your forum," but whether I like it or not, kids read it and you should take some responsibility for properly editing as necessary. Blacking out team names because you have some playground beef with someone should not be one of those times.

I agree with your post . Enough with the auto edits. All clubs are after one thing ...$$$$. I do think it is mostly parents posting. Even the childish put downs of other kids and teams. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

This is a pervasive problem on too many teams, and parents are sick of watching it! The kid who can somehow do no wrong. You know the one, turns the ball over like crazy, takes stupid shots, doesn't pass when he should, yet never comes off the field. Yet other kids make one mistake and are benched. Why? You ask, coaches kid, owners kid, parent up the [lacrosse] of coach doing lots of favors.

"Another crush off the board. Get em while they last"

A.D. ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

This is a pervasive problem on too many teams, and parents are sick of watching it! The kid who can somehow do no wrong. You know the one, turns the ball over like crazy, takes stupid shots, doesn't pass when he should, yet never comes off the field. Yet other kids make one mistake and are benched. Why? You ask, coaches kid, owners kid, parent up the [lacrosse] of coach doing lots of favors.

On any team once the kids hit high school -especially a higher level team like this one- the coaches should no longer be parents unless they come from a very experienced background. recreation coaches should not follow their kids to high school. They can be involved administratively but it is time for them to step back from the day to day coaching and let others handle their sons and teams.

Are there any big tournaments this weekend or is the season pretty much finished until November

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any big tournaments this weekend or is the season pretty much finished until November

UMD 2016 Young Guns Shootout

I have watched several of their games (on the losing end) and the whole team is very good,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any big tournaments this weekend or is the season pretty much finished until November

UMD 2016 Young Guns Shootout

thank you are all the good programs involved?

Just because kids were born in 2001 doesn't mean that they are holdbacks or too old. A lot of these 2001 kids were born after the dead line for the grade above. So your 2001 stereotype is completely irrelevant and wrong...

Exactly how many games have you watched this team or player play in? You obviously have no clue what your talking about due to your incredibly false statements on the 91 Md team and that player. Your wrong plain and simple!

What team?

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly how many games have you watched this team or player play in? You obviously have no clue what your talking about due to your incredibly false statements on the 91 Md team and that player. Your wrong plain and simple!

Seen them play this year about 3/5 times, last year when they were Breakers about 3/4 times and this past winter 3 times at indoor box.

No, these statements are correct, about the team, the attackman in question and the coach. Plus, as you notice, if you read all the posts on this, there are quite a few people who have seen the same thing, so stop denying what is true and obvious. It is what it is and the changes have to start with the coach.
He needs to command control of the team as a whole, needs to act in a way that the team respects him, he needs to stop favoring his son and letting him do what ever he wants and he needs to address the parents behavior. Encourage parents to cheer for the team, encourage them to support the players and team but do not start bitching and yelling about things and the refs while at games on the sidelines.
That kind of behavior gets noticed very quickly and in a negative light.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Not just 16, they are a 2020 holdback if they turn 15 during the season. If they turn 16 during the season they are a double holdback, and Crabs 2020 has a few of those.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any big tournaments this weekend or is the season pretty much finished until November

Good luck to the Long Island teams at Brine Nationals.

This is true. People think if your born in 2001 your a hold back if you are born in 2001 you turn 15 this year not 16, and most kids born in 2001 are born after August 1st. People don't understand that. I agree with you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Really?? Ya think??? My 2020 just turned 14 two months ago.

You are such losers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any big tournaments this weekend or is the season pretty much finished until November

UMD 2016 Young Guns Shootout

thank you are all the good programs involved?

Annapolis Hawks 2020 Green
Club Blue
LIE 2020 AA NORTH
Leading Edge Elite
Iron Horse Lacrosse 2020
Crabs 2020
Sweetlax Upstate 2020
Rock Lacrosse
3d Tri-State 2020
91 Crush
LIE 2020 Wieczorek
Madlax 2020
91 Crush:91 Crush
Dukes Young Guns
Next Level 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Really?? Ya think??? My 2020 just turned 14 two months ago.

You are such losers.

No you really seem to be the loser. The discussion is 2020's turning 15 and 16 and are holdbacks. So your kid just turned 14, means he isn't a 2020 holdback. Good for you, but no one really gives a sh*t when you post that kind of sarcastic crap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Not just 16, they are a 2020 holdback if they turn 15 during the season. If they turn 16 during the season they are a double holdback, and Crabs 2020 has a few of those.

What clowns. My son is 2018 and won't turn 16 until October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Exactly how many games have you watched this team or player play in? You obviously have no clue what your talking about due to your incredibly false statements on the 91 Md team and that player. Your wrong plain and simple!

Enough over the years to know some things never change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

This is a pervasive problem on too many teams, and parents are sick of watching it! The kid who can somehow do no wrong. You know the one, turns the ball over like crazy, takes stupid shots, doesn't pass when he should, yet never comes off the field. Yet other kids make one mistake and are benched. Why? You ask, coaches kid, owners kid, parent up the [lacrosse] of coach doing lots of favors.

On any team once the kids hit high school -especially a higher level team like this one- the coaches should no longer be parents unless they come from a very experienced background. recreation coaches should not follow their kids to high school. They can be involved administratively but it is time for them to step back from the day to day coaching and let others handle their sons and teams.

This goes for any team. It has hurt this particular team maybe more than others as evidenced by so many 1 point losses this year and the comments being made They could be at the top of the charts if the kids were not running the show and the coaches had more experience coaching higher level lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Really?? Ya think??? My 2020 just turned 14 two months ago.

You are such losers.

No you really seem to be the loser. The discussion is 2020's turning 15 and 16 and are holdbacks. So your kid just turned 14, means he isn't a 2020 holdback. Good for you, but no one really gives a sh*t when you post that kind of sarcastic crap.

Get a grip. If you need to be 16 to look good against 14 year olds then you are a loser. Period. And I dont care who commits to where. It all comes out in the wash eventually because cheaters always get caught. The end does not always justify the means. Nor is getting into college the end. People forget it is actually just the beginning. Watch as those fancy commits end up putting their degrees to work coaching lacrosse for some BS club team, giving lessons for $40 a pop at some god forsaken field or driving up and down the East Coast selling t shirts and sunglasses out of the back of their van at youth lax tournaments. That is what happens to cheaters. And if you think an age appropriate kid is a loser for not also cheating then there is nothing I can say to help you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Really?? Ya think??? My 2020 just turned 14 two months ago.

You are such losers.

No you really seem to be the loser. The discussion is 2020's turning 15 and 16 and are holdbacks. So your kid just turned 14, means he isn't a 2020 holdback. Good for you, but no one really gives a sh*t when you post that kind of sarcastic crap.

Get a grip. If you need to be 16 to look good against 14 year olds then you are a loser. Period. And I dont care who commits to where. It all comes out in the wash eventually because cheaters always get caught. The end does not always justify the means. Nor is getting into college the end. People forget it is actually just the beginning. Watch as those fancy commits end up putting their degrees to work coaching lacrosse for some BS club team, giving lessons for $40 a pop at some god forsaken field or driving up and down the East Coast selling t shirts and sunglasses out of the back of their van at youth lax tournaments. That is what happens to cheaters. And if you think an age appropriate kid is a loser for not also cheating then there is nothing I can say to help you.

. Sorry bunky but you are still the loser and with poor reading comprehension. The prior posts regarding holdbacks is not supporting holdbacks or 15 and 16 year olds playing 2020, just the opposite, they are condemning holdbacks. But here you come with your sarcastic post about your 14 year old kid playing 2020. Why in the [lacrosse] do you think Crabs and FCA were pointed out as the leaders of holdbacks. Most who post on this site hate holdbacks and the entire crap that goes with it. Then you come along with some long bs diseration about crap and it clearly shows you lack reading comprehension. You need to not only get a grip but take some night reading classes. Oh, and my son, who plays on a 2020 elite team turned 14 last month. That's June in case you don't understand.

That's wrong some kids start school later than others and some kids have learning problems. A lot of kids that are barely older then other kids are usually not holdbacks. And if they are holdbacks it's most likely not for lacrosse. But I agree with the crabs part, they have 4+ double holdbacks, at least 10-14 holdbacks, and some legit 14 year olds.

Agreed. The bashing and degrading of young kids for doing what they love and are passionate about is pathetic and classless, especially considering it's by parents. There is no reason for it. And none of it is going to matter in high school (holdback or not) they will all play against kids that are older, bigger, faster, and stronger. People need to get a grip. It really is sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Really?? Ya think??? My 2020 just turned 14 two months ago.

You are such losers.

If a player turns 15 after Sept 1/2016 they are not a holdback. New rules that will be widely ignored come into effect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The stereotype for holdbacks (Crabs, FCA, etc.) is accurate. If you have a kid that is 16 or will turn 16 by the end of 2016 on a 2020 team - they are a holdback.

Not just 16, they are a 2020 holdback if they turn 15 during the season. If they turn 16 during the season they are a double holdback, and Crabs 2020 has a few of those.

What clowns. My son is 2018 and won't turn 16 until October.

what University has he committed to for Sept 2018?

Maryland

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by 1111111111

But who won the ship. But who scored 3 goals and had an assist against legacy in the championship, yeah that's right daddy's boy? But if you didn't take a look at the attackmen and a good amount of the middies on team 91 md they are small, haven't hit growth spurts or puberty, these kids are not holdbacks. That fact that you think that they are is a compliment and just gives them even more desire to go out and win more championships against your kids and their teams. And keep talking about parents and not getting recruited, your kid clearly isn't getting recruited because if he was you wouldn't be on this sight you childish, classless, disgrace.

. Your post makes absolutely no sense. You are completely clueless and if it makes you happy to say this team has no holdbacks, well bunky, carry on. The coach has no control over his players, the attackman you are referring to with 3 goals is a selfish player, not a team player and daddy says nothing. Let the parents keep acting up on the sidelines during games and watch college coaches just walk away. They want no part of this, regardless of a players ability. I be.ieve you are the one upset that your kid isn't getting any looks and that is why you are here bitching. So how did the team do in New [lacrosse] this weekend? Looks like you got pushed around. Begs the question, how loud was the coach and parents yelling and complaining? I would guess quite a bit. Did you just get home from NY and this was why your post is so screwed up?

Good game for this attackman but a one off. . More often than not he is allowed to stay in the game longer than others, shoots when he should not and does whatever he wants despite not being able to ride at all, not shoot consistently and he looks like he gets in the way of the team who have to work around him. True that the coach really has no control over this player as well as several others who ignore instructions from their coaches-too bad for the team as they could be much better if there was more strategic disciplined play.

This is a pervasive problem on too many teams, and parents are sick of watching it! The kid who can somehow do no wrong. You know the one, turns the ball over like crazy, takes stupid shots, doesn't pass when he should, yet never comes off the field. Yet other kids make one mistake and are benched. Why? You ask, coaches kid, owners kid, parent up the [lacrosse] of coach doing lots of favors.

For a minute I thought you were talking about my daughter's team considering you just described exactly what their problem is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland

congratulate him making to Div 1 when on your birth year is a great accomplishment.

The latest 2020 commit is further proof and incentive for players to holdback and play down to get noticed. Congrats to the 2019, sorry I mean 2020 Brunswick Prep School kid to Penn State.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The latest 2020 commit is further proof and incentive for players to holdback and play down to get noticed. Congrats to the 2019, sorry I mean 2020 Brunswick Prep School kid to Penn State.

I think that kid is reclassing NOW, not prior to committ - Ty said he played JV in Westchester last spring which he couldnt do if he was already heldback at Wick.
Your point is still valid - but doesnt appear to apply here

Once you step foot in highschool you cannot reclass but you can "PG" after higshcool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The latest 2020 commit is further proof and incentive for players to holdback and play down to get noticed. Congrats to the 2019, sorry I mean 2020 Brunswick Prep School kid to Penn State.

I think that kid is reclassing NOW, not prior to committ - Ty said he played JV in Westchester last spring which he couldnt do if he was already heldback at Wick.
Your point is still valid - but doesnt appear to apply here

Doesn't apply? He played JV in the spring and then played down on 2020 in the summer. It applies. You don't have to officially reclass with a HS school to play down a year or two. Remember, there are no rules in the summer travel game. Just declare yourself whatever year you want and play on that team. A college can give you a commitment in any year they wish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once you step foot in highschool you cannot reclass but you can "PG" after higshcool

Public School, that might be true. Private school you absolutely can and they do. Or just go to public HS for a year and then re-class and repeat 9th grade in Private. 2018 from Mass on my son's team at a well known showcase started as 2016. Reclassed to 2017 and committed to UVA. Had off the field issue and commitment was broken by UVA. Reclassed again to 2018 and committed to Duke.

Not true often times see people do 9th grade twice

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland

congratulate him making to Div 1 when on your birth year is a great accomplishment.

Keep whining while we keep committing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maryland

congratulate him making to Div 1 when on your birth year is a great accomplishment.

Keep whining while we keep committing

Great post to convince yourself that your son needs to play down to look good instead of play on age or up to get better.

The Penn St commit going to Brunswick has always been a 2020, never reclassed. He played JV as an 8th grader last year for Mamaroneck. Starting at Wick as a 9th grader. Age appropriate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once you step foot in highschool you cannot reclass but you can "PG" after higshcool

This is what the Canadian kids do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Once you step foot in highschool you cannot reclass but you can "PG" after higshcool

This is what the Canadian kids do

yes because no parent in their right mind would hold a kid back. It's easier to just declare u are going to do a PG year. Many Canadian kids do their first year of university here than go to the US. They don't play any sport so they don't lose any eligibility. Have u heard anyone ever complain that a 22 year old is playing 21 year old's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Penn St commit going to Brunswick has always been a 2020, never reclassed. He played JV as an 8th grader last year for Mamaroneck. Starting at Wick as a 9th grader. Age appropriate.

Meaning his Bdate is between 11/1/2001 and 10/31/2002?

Plenty of you Westchester guys are going the way of VA folks.

What are some good quality programs in rank order in Suffolk

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)...
3)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)...
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

Just last week Crabs beat LIE, LIE beat Sweetlax in OT, Sweetlax beat Edge, FCA lost to Crabs. Leg also beat Looneys and Tomohawks, but lost to MD 91. Your list needs some adjusting,

After the Crush, Loonies, Express, and Crabs which have generally separated themselves from the pack, there are a bunch of teams which could beat each other on any given day. Among them in no particular order are...
Edge, Annapolis Hawks, NH Tomahawks, Leading Edge, Next Level, Laxachusettes, Legacy, 91 Maryland, Rising Sons, Sweetlax NY, and West Coast Stars.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the Crush, Loonies, Express, and Crabs which have generally separated themselves from the pack, there are a bunch of teams which could beat each other on any given day. Among them in no particular order are...
Edge, Annapolis Hawks, NH Tomahawks, Leading Edge, Next Level, Laxachusettes, Legacy, 91 Maryland, Rising Sons, Sweetlax NY, and West Coast Stars.

Scores do not support your statement with possibly the exception of Looneys, who had one fluke loss. Otherwise I agree.

Ty Xanders tweets out that Penn State grabs another 2020 Attackman. Kid is from the Rising Sons and attends Malvern Prep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the Crush, Loonies, Express, and Crabs which have generally separated themselves from the pack, there are a bunch of teams which could beat each other on any given day. Among them in no particular order are...
Edge, Annapolis Hawks, NH Tomahawks, Leading Edge, Next Level, Laxachusettes, Legacy, 91 Maryland, Rising Sons, Sweetlax NY, and West Coast Stars.

WCS should be in there top 7 but leading edge and next level don't belong. It will be interesting to see what programs play in Nov, hopefully Eclipse and 4HHH defer their places and let better teams play. That is the one must play event coming up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

Just last week Crabs beat LIE, LIE beat Sweetlax in OT, Sweetlax beat Edge, FCA lost to Crabs. Leg also beat Looneys and Tomohawks, but lost to MD 91. Your list needs some adjusting,

And Leg lost to Igloo, Sons and Tomahawks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.WCS
6.Laxachusettes
7.LIE
8.Tomohawks
9. 91 MD
10.Hawks

What about laxachusetts top 3 finished in multiple tournaments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about laxachusetts top 3 finished in multiple tournaments

Exrpress beat Laxachusetts by a large margin at the NLF tournament a few weeks ago. Laxachusetts was a much bigger/physical team. Express moved the ball much better and won most of the face-offs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.WCS
6.Laxachusettes
7.LIE
8.Tomohawks
9. 91 MD
10.Hawks

That's a useless list as Edge beat Tomahawks and laxachusettes, WCS may not belong at all. Leg and Sweetlax belong, they both beat teams on there. Sons as well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.WCS
6.Laxachusettes
7.LIE
8.Tomohawks
9. 91 MD
10.Hawks

That's a useless list as Edge beat Tomahawks and laxachusettes, WCS may not belong at all. Leg and Sweetlax belong, they both beat teams on there. Sons as well

More like this
1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.LIE
6.WCS
7.Edge
8.Laxachusettes
9.91 MD
10.Hawks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.WCS
6.Laxachusettes
7.LIE
8.Tomohawks
9. 91 MD
10.Hawks

That's a useless list as Edge beat Tomahawks and laxachusettes, WCS may not belong at all. Leg and Sweetlax belong, they both beat teams on there. what team is Leg not LIE Leg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]As the season winds down its fair to say we have all watched a ton of highly competive lacrosse (bloated holdback teams and all) I would also venture to guess that if you are reading this thread that there are few things you enjoy more then watching your boy compete. We have things in common.. Considering this (bias and holdback tally aside) how would you rank the top 10 club programs??

1) team 91
2)looney's
3) LIE
4)FCA
5)Crabs
6) Edge Canada
7) Sweetlax Upstate
8) Hawks
9) NH Tomahawks
10) 91 MD
3)

I thought the ranking of teams nonsense would be done by the time this age was going into 9th grade. Leave that to the 4th and 5th grade dads please.

1.Crush
2.Looneys
3.Crabs
4.FCA
5.WCS
6.Laxachusettes
7.LIE
8.Tomohawks
9. 91 MD
10.Hawks

That's a useless list as Edge beat Tomahawks and laxachusettes, WCS may not belong at all. Leg and Sweetlax belong, they both beat teams on there. what team is Leg not LIE Leg?

who is LEG?

LEgacy, not LIE Leghardt "leggy"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

LIE Leg not in anyones top 25

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

who now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

who now? [/quote
Where do you read this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

LIE Leg not in anyones top 25

That was a reference to Taz not the Express B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After the Crush, Loonies, Express, and Crabs which have generally separated themselves from the pack, there are a bunch of teams which could beat each other on any given day. Among them in no particular order are...
Edge, Annapolis Hawks, NH Tomahawks, Leading Edge, Next Level, Laxachusettes, Legacy, 91 Maryland, Rising Sons, Sweetlax NY, and West Coast Stars.

Express has not separated themselves from anyone, just another good team in the mix. Beatable by any in top 10. Sorry dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

who now? [/quote
Where do you read this?

D pole to navy

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Another crush off the board. Get em while they last

And another off the board

who now? [/quote
Where do you read this?

D pole to navy

great kid great player that is awesome

serious question if any one know. my nephew just graduated and accepted to Naval Acadamy, non lacrosse player. Do the early commits have to complete the physical assesment now or before they go? BTW - not an easy accomplishment and I congratulate and am in awe of any kid who goes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

That is one school, and you are kidding yourself if you think that they won't have their eyes on kids all the way to their senior year, if they find a kid that they love, they will make room for him or her. Trust me on this

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

They are not commuting the first kid that says yes and parents of the early kids are not jumping at the first offer because the vast majority of these 2020 early commits have/had multiple offers to choose from. I think people (parents) sometimes make things up or make silly statements to make themselves feel better, and try and justify why their kid hasn't been recruited or offered.

The schools most of these 2020's are committing to are great schools with a ton of majors, you really can't go wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

I agree, if my kid wants to go to any of the schools his academics will get him through admissions. He will simply walk on to any of these schools he chooses to go to because of his brain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

They are not commuting the first kid that says yes and parents of the early kids are not jumping at the first offer because the vast majority of these 2020 early commits have/had multiple offers to choose from. I think people (parents) sometimes make things up or make silly statements to make themselves feel better, and try and justify why their kid hasn't been recruited or offered.

I am sure some of the early recruits have done their homework and made informed (and good) decisions for them (well, as good of a decision as one can make as a 14 year old). But I guarentee, others are jumping at the first offer they get. I believe there are a few reasons: 1. They are terrified if they don't jump, "all the spots" will be gone. 2. They (or their parents) want to say they are committed early. Again, I hope it works out for them and it end up being everything they want it to be.

Love when parents come on here that have no idea of anything and start spouting their mouths off about early recruiting. Most of the 2019 and 2020 kids are coming from good HS programs. I'm sure they have sat down with their coaches and parents and have thought things out. And if these kids are getting offers now they would have many offers later. These kids are best players in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love when parents come on here that have no idea of anything and start spouting their mouths off about early recruiting. Most of the 2019 and 2020 kids are coming from good HS programs. I'm sure they have sat down with their coaches and parents and have thought things out. And if these kids are getting offers now they would have many offers later. These kids are best players in the country.

Best players in the country?? They are in 8th grade. About half of these "best" will continue to be, the other half will be surpassed by others not on radar as of now. This is not new, been the way since I was in HS 25 years ago. So for all those up on that pedestal, just remember, there are 10 kids working hard to take you down. It's survival of the fittest and it's not easy to remain on top!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

UNC will take 10 or 11 kids in each of the years 19 and 20 . At this point in time for 2019 AND 2020 there are only approximately 6 or 7 places left. UNC just comitted amother 20 defenseman from the Crabs 3 spots left in 20 and not even the end of summer like it or not it's just the way it is.

Their not just committing kids to commit kids. These coaches livelihoods depend on them winning. They've been watching these kids numerous times before they get serious. I know a bunch of kids that have taken visits but have no offers. I also know kids that took big state schools over very interested IVY's. And yes the Ivy is recruiting already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

UNC will take 10 or 11 kids in each of the years 19 and 20 . At this point in time for 2019 AND 2020 there are only approximately 6 or 7 places left. UNC just comitted amother 20 defenseman from the Crabs 3 spots left in 20 and not even the end of summer like it or not it's just the way it is.

Yeah top kids you say right now. Let's see when kids catch up physically mature wise. Different story. Seen it time and time again.

Most of the kids being taken are reclassed - so technically not 2020s. Let the UNCs, Hopkins and Penn States of the world fill their rosters. UNC has close to 60 kids on their roster. Do the math - 12 full scholarships per team. Committing is meaningless - because if a better player comes along next year don't kid yourself - the coach will try to get him and if your kid is a casualty - well that's life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their not just committing kids to commit kids. These coaches livelihoods depend on them winning. They've been watching these kids numerous times before they get serious. I know a bunch of kids that have taken visits but have no offers. I also know kids that took big state schools over very interested IVY's. And yes the Ivy is recruiting already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

UNC will take 10 or 11 kids in each of the years 19 and 20 . At this point in time for 2019 AND 2020 there are only approximately 6 or 7 places left. UNC just comitted amother 20 defenseman from the Crabs 3 spots left in 20 and not even the end of summer like it or not it's just the way it is.

Ivies are interested in some 2020, but no visits are happening yet. They traditionally wait to see some grades. So no, they are not recruiting yet.

Thats what you think. I know someone who has been on a visit already.

24 2020's have verbaled. How many do you think are true 2020 age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their not just committing kids to commit kids. These coaches livelihoods depend on them winning. They've been watching these kids numerous times before they get serious. I know a bunch of kids that have taken visits but have no offers. I also know kids that took big state schools over very interested IVY's. And yes the Ivy is recruiting already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

UNC will take 10 or 11 kids in each of the years 19 and 20 . At this point in time for 2019 AND 2020 there are only approximately 6 or 7 places left. UNC just comitted amother 20 defenseman from the Crabs 3 spots left in 20 and not even the end of summer like it or not it's just the way it is.

These kids have not taken a single high school course yet - they are verbally committed pending their grades making the cut and others not catching up physically. That is a lot of pressure on 14-16 year olds to stay the best for 4 years. What does a verbal really mean except we view you as the best right now ? It will be a fight for these kids to remain the best while others grow and work on their game - these kids are the holdbacks or the early hardest workers and are giving the rest something to work toward- maybe even working harder. Not a bad thing all around.

Of course schools will continue to look for kids all the way through 12th grade but keep in mind that they are looking for less players since they have used up many of their slots and also a lot the players they are looking at are kids that already committed to another school but have changed their mind or looking to improve on the school of choice. i am not a fan of early recruiting but if a kid has a chance to lock up a spot a great school then good for him. If the best lax schools unilaterally backed away from the early recruiting it could reverse this trend but in reality that will never happen. The NCAA has to rule on it and lax is just not that important to them.

All of the commits with exception of Navy are going to either Big Ten or ACC schools. Prior to UNC winning the Championship this year (which they haven't won since 91) none of these schools has won the National Championship in at least a decade. Me thinks this early recruitment of Holdbacks ain't gonna solve their problems.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Their not just committing kids to commit kids. These coaches livelihoods depend on them winning. They've been watching these kids numerous times before they get serious. I know a bunch of kids that have taken visits but have no offers. I also know kids that took big state schools over very interested IVY's. And yes the Ivy is recruiting already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these 2020 kids committing is so hysterical. Good for them, I hope it works out how they think it will. It is just so, so far away and I feel like the college coaches are in somewhat of a feeding frenzy right now and they are just committing the first kid that says yes. Also, kids (and parents) are just jumping at the first offer. Seriously, what is the rush?

Bird in the hand..... Think of it this way - UNC has already 7 commits. How many do you think they take? 12? 15? More? Less? Say you wait until this time next year, there probably won't be any spots left. Not sure there will be any after the Fall

They don't mind because they're getting the top kids

UNC will take 10 or 11 kids in each of the years 19 and 20 . At this point in time for 2019 AND 2020 there are only approximately 6 or 7 places left. UNC just comitted amother 20 defenseman from the Crabs 3 spots left in 20 and not even the end of summer like it or not it's just the way it is.

These kids have not taken a single high school course yet - they are verbally committed pending their grades making the cut and others not catching up physically. That is a lot of pressure on 14-16 year olds to stay the best for 4 years. What does a verbal really mean except we view you as the best right now ? It will be a fight for these kids to remain the best while others grow and work on their game - these kids are the holdbacks or the early hardest workers and are giving the rest something to work toward- maybe even working harder. Not a bad thing all around.

You kind of assume that the kids comitted early will not continue to mature and develop and continue to physicaly grow as they get older, the kids comitted now are not going to remain stagnant. So everyone else will continue to grow and "catch up" except the kids that are comitted early ? Sorry but by the time a kid is 14 GENEALLY SPEAKING the "catch up" theory doesn't hold water. Thats something that parents focus on and tell themselves when the kids are younger and pre pubecent.Yes a very few kids will pop up out of no where and will be successful, but it's far more the exception than the rule.

I"m sure these kids will be working hard also. I tend to believe they've developed these hard work habits that will remain with them. Especially the kids that attend HS programs that will be very demanding of them. Not sure all of these early commits are done growing either.

Sorry, but most kids are not fully grown by age 14. It is closer to age 16 or 17. There is no denying the early commits and others being highly touted, generally speaking, are the bigger, more physically mature players. You are correct that some will get even bigger and faster through HS.....but others will not. We all know kids who were considered "huge" and practically had beards in 9th grade but were then done growing. You are totally correct that these committed kids wont stop working, but I do think some will plateau. What the percentages are for each outcome nobody knows since we are in unchartered territory with kids deciding on colleges before a single day of high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, but most kids are not fully grown by age 14. It is closer to age 16 or 17. There is no denying the early commits and others being highly touted, generally speaking, are the bigger, more physically mature players. You are correct that some will get even bigger and faster through HS.....but others will not. We all know kids who were considered "huge" and practically had beards in 9th grade but were then done growing. You are totally correct that these committed kids wont stop working, but I do think some will plateau. What the percentages are for each outcome nobody knows since we are in unchartered territory with kids deciding on colleges before a single day of high school.

everyone that is commenting get real. Think about your high school days and how well and how much the school prepared you to pick the right school. If you were an athlete back then you looked at schools that looked at you. How many of us athletes visited schools outside those that we had interest in athletically.

It cuts both ways! Most of the kids that have committed real early as 9th graders are exceptional players, but some have plateaued. Conversely there are kids with later growth spurts and kids from non-traditional areas that are exceptional athletes that are catching up quickly, and will surpass. There are reclassed kids committed to big time programs as 9th graders that are high IQ, highly skilled players, but are not impressive physically or athletically. Once in college you can improve skill and IQ, physical attributes and athleticism - not so much! It will be interesting to see if they can compete at the next level. They only need to hit on four kids per year! The final four kids per year are probably throw-ins with a 12 player recruiting class.

I am incredibly surprised by Navy's early recruiting. Having a 14 year old kid commit to attend a school to play lacrosse is one thing - having a kid commit to attend an academy, join the military and potentially fight in a war is another. It almost borders on being immoral. There is no way a kid can understand the gravity of their decision....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am incredibly surprised by Navy's early recruiting. Having a 14 year old kid commit to attend a school to play lacrosse is one thing - having a kid commit to attend an academy, join the military and potentially fight in a war is another. It almost borders on being immoral. There is no way a kid can understand the gravity of their decision....

Ditto. I don't like to jump in and judge some of these decisions. Some families genuinely feel like this is the best call. But a service Academy adds alot to the equation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It cuts both ways! Most of the kids that have committed real early as 9th graders are exceptional players, but some have plateaued. Conversely there are kids with later growth spurts and kids from non-traditional areas that are exceptional athletes that are catching up quickly, and will surpass. There are reclassed kids committed to big time programs as 9th graders that are high IQ, highly skilled players, but are not impressive physically or athletically. Once in college you can improve skill and IQ, physical attributes and athleticism - not so much! It will be interesting to see if they can compete at the next level. They only need to hit on four kids per year! The final four kids per year are probably throw-ins with a 12 player recruiting class.

Can't improve physical attributes? Have you ever heard of the weight room? My son went into College 6'0 175lbs. As a Jr he is now nearly 200lbs and has the body of a football player. BTW he was always fast, and is now faster at 200lbs. Of course he was 18 when he went to college, not 20. A man doesn't peak physically until age 25-26.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am incredibly surprised by Navy's early recruiting. Having a 14 year old kid commit to attend a school to play lacrosse is one thing - having a kid commit to attend an academy, join the military and potentially fight in a war is another. It almost borders on being immoral. There is no way a kid can understand the gravity of their decision....

Thats why it's a verbal. My son has 2 solid offers on the table. One is to an Academy. The other is a very good Big 10. We will visit both and then hopefully decide, or maybe not. If it turns out to be the wrong fit, he has 4 years to change his mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, but most kids are not fully grown by age 14. It is closer to age 16 or 17. There is no denying the early commits and others being highly touted, generally speaking, are the bigger, more physically mature players. You are correct that some will get even bigger and faster through HS.....but others will not. We all know kids who were considered "huge" and practically had beards in 9th grade but were then done growing. You are totally correct that these committed kids wont stop working, but I do think some will plateau. What the percentages are for each outcome nobody knows since we are in unchartered territory with kids deciding on colleges before a single day of high school.

So then by the time the early commits are 16 or 17 they Will be even bigger stronger and faster agreed 100%. The point a poster made was essentially that only the kids who aren't committed will continue to grow and mature and get better while the early commits get left behind,which is absolutely absurd. Amazing what parents tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

Why do coaches go after hold backs. Most stay back because they aren't good enough for their true age group. Wouldn't that be a disadvantage in college when you have to play against older players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry, but most kids are not fully grown by age 14. It is closer to age 16 or 17. There is no denying the early commits and others being highly touted, generally speaking, are the bigger, more physically mature players. You are correct that some will get even bigger and faster through HS.....but others will not. We all know kids who were considered "huge" and practically had beards in 9th grade but were then done growing. You are totally correct that these committed kids wont stop working, but I do think some will plateau. What the percentages are for each outcome nobody knows since we are in unchartered territory with kids deciding on colleges before a single day of high school.

So then by the time the early commits are 16 or 17 they Will be even bigger stronger and faster agreed 100%. The point a poster made was essentially that only the kids who aren't committed will continue to grow and mature and get better while the early commits get left behind,which is absolutely absurd. Amazing what parents tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

Some will be bigger, stronger and faster, but some won't be much different physically than they are right now. You can look at their parents, maybe older siblings, for some sense of where they'll end up size-wise, but it is still a crap shoot. The bigger D1 programs over-recruit and can afford to be wrong. That is why they are willing to take chances like this.

This whole early recruiting/verbal commitment is a bit of a sham that heavily favors the college. "Hey kid in 8th grade - your great - I want you to play for me in 4 years (if I'm still around). Hey kid - prior to signing NLI - saw your post on FB with you holding a red solo cup and I have come across a kid I like better than you - so deal is off. Don't mean to leave you flat footed - I know u spent a lot on (UNC, Hopkins, etc) gear. Best of luck to you..."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This whole early recruiting/verbal commitment is a bit of a sham that heavily favors the college. "Hey kid in 8th grade - your great - I want you to play for me in 4 years (if I'm still around). Hey kid - prior to signing NLI - saw your post on FB with you holding a red solo cup and I have come across a kid I like better than you - so deal is off. Don't mean to leave you flat footed - I know u spent a lot on (UNC, Hopkins, etc) gear. Best of luck to you..."

Unless you happen to be one of the top recruits in your respective class then opportunities are numerous wether your coach leaves or stays really doesn't matter. It should go with out saying that a kid should be smart and aware and conduct themselves appropriately wether they are lacrosse players/athletes or not . I think everyone understands that from the start. If the kid and or parents do something stupid in these days of social media then that's on them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do coaches go after hold backs. Most stay back because they aren't good enough for their true age group. Wouldn't that be a disadvantage in college when you have to play against older players

I guess the theory is once they are seniors in college (2024) they should once again be the bigger stronger athlete? Seriously though ..I don't get it either....

6'3 Canadian 2020 to Hopkins

Originally Posted by Anonymous

6'3 Canadian 2020 to Hopkins

Thanks for the info. I see u get the tweet from Ty and post it here. Your like Ty Jr. Good job.

This tryout thing is really getting crazy. Looks like most, if not all, clubs are holding them in August. So much for family vacation!!

This is nothing new. Just tell them your away they should hold your sons spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is nothing new. Just tell them your away they should hold your sons spot.

If your son is a top 15-20 player on the team they will. If they are player 20-23 they might not.