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Posted By: B_O_T_C Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/29/15 01:37 PM
BOTC is opening our Fall 2015 through Summer 2016 thread covering the Boys 2020-8th Grade age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 02:58 PM
Igloo 2021 would not beat any of the top 2020 Long Island teams. You can take that to the bank if you think they would have your coach call any of the top 3 coaches and schedule your [lacrosse] whooping!!! Talk is cheap igloo dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 03:08 PM
A lot of the 2021 igloo team are hold backs. That's a fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 04:36 PM
Whos talking? You are the first post. Lets try to get off on the right foot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of the 2021 igloo team are hold backs. That's a fact


You could have combined those two posts but decided to make two.. hmmm
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 04:57 PM
Igloo 2021 team don't call yourself at 7 th grade team with present kids that are going into 8th grade that's a fact ... Huntington Dad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo 2021 team don't call yourself at 7 th grade team with present kids that are going into 8th grade that's a fact ... Huntington Dad


Hey, Dude, what's your major malfunction? Sounds like you really need a hug.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/02/15 02:16 AM
Admit it, we all know your roster, you have kids going into 8th! Period!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/02/15 03:30 PM
Looking for a Good Travel Team / best bang for the buck so to speak. 2019 / 2020, Can anyone give me any incite to how much Legacy cost last year, and how was the personal experience on the team or teams with their sons. Thanks
If you register you can PM me and I'll fill you in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a Good Travel Team / best bang for the buck so to speak. 2019 / 2020, Can anyone give me any incite to how much Legacy cost last year, and how was the personal experience on the team or teams with their sons. Thanks


What do you want for your son? how are you evaluating cost/benefit? Are you looking at only the summer or the program cost for the full year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 12:17 PM
Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of the Crush 2020 folks know where you are playing this Autumn. We (Edge Ontario) are in the process of planning our upcoming season and have made some upgrades to our team and were hoping to face your team. There's no better way to assess talent other than playing the best. We were looking at the NYPLL on November 15th. We haven't played you since Nov 2011 and look forward to the opportunity. Good luck to all teams with their tryouts and upcoming season.


Are your upgrades in the form if holdbacks? Would you be willing to play in age based tournaments?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 01:20 PM
crush is screwed also for age based....lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 01:31 PM
Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 01:33 PM
age based U-15 as no player turn 15 until june 2016 is that fair..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 01:45 PM
June No [lacrosse]...us lax cutoff 9/1 ur boys that run 91 change the rules to help themselves
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
crush is screwed also for age based....lol


Why is that? What team does your son play for big mouth? Guess you are just another one of those crickets!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 02:59 PM
We get pushed down by our older teams ..we have no choice in the matter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
crush is screwed also for age based....lol


That's why I love this board.by now even the haters know it's not even remotely true but someone still posts that crush is older I love it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.


In New [lacrosse] the school cut off is 12/1 so in the rising 8th grade class the age appropriate kids are mostly born in 2002 with a handful of December babies. If a kid is born prior to 12/1/2001 he is a holdback. Your team's website also lauds the holdback nature of your entire program, so give it a rest already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.


In New [lacrosse] the school cut off is 12/1 so in the rising 8th grade class the age appropriate kids are mostly born in 2002 with a handful of December babies. If a kid is born prior to 12/1/2001 he is a holdback. Your team's website also lauds the holdback nature of your entire program, so give it a rest already.


Crush just got undressed!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 04:00 PM
we are playing 2020 no choice as we have a 2019 team so hopefully crush plays at the NYPLL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 04:14 PM
Get a hold of the guys from Rising Sons. They are supposed to be hosting a fall and Spring play day like last year. They get the top clubs to come. I don't know who it goes to but the website email address is risingsonslax@yahoo.com
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
June No [lacrosse]...us lax cutoff 9/1 ur boys that run 91 change the rules to help themselves


Crush has no issues with the age guidelines set by US Lax what so ever. But I guess... You collected the kids' birth certificates in a quest to disprove that? This conversation is so old.

I would say anyone looking to play the team should contact the coach- not post on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 05:42 PM
There is no such thing as U-14. It is U-13 followed by U-15

8th grade is the year that the holdbacks begin in earnest. It is the reason 8th grade goes U-15 instead of U-14.

The age cutoff is Sept 1st, 2000. Anyone born this date or later is eligible for U-15 play. The Maryland "AA" U-15 youth clubs also called 2020 clubs will be stocked with 8th graders born in late 2000 or early 2001. The Maryland clubs with "A" designation will generally be those boys who have not yet reclassified and are equivalent to U-14 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 06:10 PM
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....


before this shift to grade-based teams did you think the old system of u11,u13,u15 was "gross"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 09:36 PM
I didn't make the gross comment but I for one did. Although I saw the necessity in some areas. Some areas didn't have the enrollment so they mix grades. When teams went by a U age system many times only the older players played while the younger ones got beat up and learned in practice. They waited their turn (the following year) when they were the older guys and the cycle continued.

not the best situation. the areas that are able to go grade base have the numbers and therefore have a bigger pool to pull and work with generally getting lucky talent wise too.

that said, I play my son up whenever possible, when it is our choice not someone elses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 11:16 PM
Does anyone know the password for igloos game videos? We played them and my son wants to see if they have the game. Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/03/15 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.


Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 12:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.


Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.


The holdback issue is real but exaggerated. None of the 2019's who have committed will be 20 when they graduate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rising 8th graders born in 2000? So they are two years older than my son and potentially competing against him on dueling 2020 teams? So gross....

Agree this is gross, but it is what the D1 coaches want. They get to see all the boys who will start college in Fall 2020 and take the field in Spring 2021 on the same field at the same time.

This is not a new problem. My 2000 birth year son is a 2018 grad year. On the club and individual showcase circuit he plays against 1998 birth year players all the time.

What makes it interesting is that when your kids reach High School the same parents who complain most about reclassification expect their 9th grader to play Varsity. The age/size differential exists in the school version of the sport but is acceptable for most parents.


Seriously? Graduating high school at 20? Would be surprised if you were even allowed to play high school lax at that age.


The holdback issue is real but exaggerated. None of the 2019's who have committed will be 20 when they graduate.


Ok- they'll be 20 before they step on campus- is that better? Still ridiculous! My son will graduate at 18 and won't turn 19 until he's in his second semester of college- some won't turn 19 until they finish their first year- I'd say the exaggeration isn't quite that big. It is what it is- but Ithose underdog kids will get as far because they have a lot more grit and determination and those are qualities that will take them much further.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every player on our team will be making the cutoff date of June 1/2001. Holdbacks don't exist in Canada no one in their right mind would keep their child back a year in school. In fact many December babies end up entering school early choosing not to wait an extra year.


Isn't the cut-off date September 1 when talking about age based programs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 10:09 AM
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.


Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.



In New [lacrosse] he would be considered 2020...and one of the youngest in the grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.


Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.


I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.



in MD the school cutoff is 9/1 so he'd automatically be 2021 and be on the older spectrum of 2021. It is a complete exaggeration that most prep schools or clubs would encourage fall birthdays to be held back. There is one baltimore school and a club that practices there that seems to encourage repeating 8th grade - with lacrosse or other sport part of the motivation. The prep schools that also have elementary almost always make summer bdays do prefirst. This is when they are 5-6 year old has less to do with sports and more to do with fleecing parents out of an additional year of tuition. Of course some parents are happy to pay that extra coin to make the oldest rather than youngest in class.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.


Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.


I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.


Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.


Could go either way, going into 7th (2021) or 8th (2020). I dont think anyone would gripe about a boy born in Oct/Nov being entered in the younger year because his parents didnt think he was ready for school yet.

The issue with holdbacks is more around, a boy born in the beginning of the year being intentionally entered in the younger year for an athletic advantage. If you build a team around boys like that, in the younger years that team will have an unfair advantage and could possible be dangerous for the opponents. Its very tricky when you include the contact sport aspect to it (in the younger ages). IMHO.


I think NY parents need to stop griping about these Sept/Oct/Nov birthdays if the play for a younger aged team at any grade level in NY area. That will put our area kids more on par and make it a bit less dangerous for a smaller kid that can potentially be playing kids 2 yrs older. While I never really understood teams that built their team as a u-11, u-13 etc- we shoukd at least be able to align our club teams with the 9/1 cut off- as most if these states also have kids a few months earlier that just weren't ready for kindergarten and may be summer birthdays.

Teams should be built around one set model much like hockey which is far better than a mish mosh of ages all over the place. I do think we will see youth tournaments begin to put an age limit but once the kids are of recruiting age all bets will be off, which will continue to entice families to hold their kid back to play smaller kids so they can get recruited. It's happening because coaches are fueling it. I think things will change as more and more kids decommit and fail to get into their school. The next few years should be interesting to see how age guidelines and recruitment and college team success pans out.


Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on


U based is still 2 age brackets. A new model needs to be built around single year teams for youth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on
Most teams are formed for the combined Fall/Spring/Summer season (Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - is the same team). You can't change in the summer without also changing in the preceding fall. It is simply too messy for the club directors. This implies that the upcoming fall travel season is when you should see for the first time 2019s who are repeating 8th grade and are now 2020s. Since the 2015 summer season has ended even though your kid has not started 8th grade, unless he plans on reclassing you should start thinking of him on the club/recruiting circuit as a rising 9th grader right now.

The first 2020 will verbally commit well less than a year from now.

U-15 allows 2019 reclasses and 2020s to play together on the same team. Call it U-15 or call it 2020, it is the same thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.



a nov birthday is either considered young or old for the grade; who are you trying to kid. If you believe in a lie long enough you believe it. Just like a march kid used to be considered on the older side in Ny... that is until people stated holding their kids back because they "weren't ready" for kindergarten.

the hold back is to give their kids an advantage at life whether social academic or athletic.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should be U based and switch to grade based for rising 9th summer. Ultimately hold backs get mixed in with non holdbacks but at least it wouldn't happen until much later on
Most teams are formed for the combined Fall/Spring/Summer season (Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - is the same team). You can't change in the summer without also changing in the preceding fall. It is simply too messy for the club directors. This implies that the upcoming fall travel season is when you should see for the first time 2019s who are repeating 8th grade and are now 2020s. Since the 2015 summer season has ended even though your kid has not started 8th grade, unless he plans on reclassing you should start thinking of him on the club/recruiting circuit as a rising 9th grader right now.

The first 2020 will verbally commit well less than a year from now.

U-15 allows 2019 reclasses and 2020s to play together on the same team. Call it U-15 or call it 2020, it is the same thing.


So maybe if the age guidelines were still in effect in 8th grade for the Fall and Summer, the reclass situation would not continue to grow, as the kids would have to still play within their age group the summer heading into HS. Might not be ideal for the coaches, but it levels the field a bit more and maintains safety for the younger, smaller kids playing age appropriately. Afterall, holdbacks play down for an advantage, you chip away at the advantage, and it may not continue to happen. A true talented player will stand out among his own aged peers, as well as the younger group. If they continue to want to reclass, they will get their advantage a year later and the coaches still get to see them play the younger kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 01:21 AM
7th
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 01:23 AM
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid was born November 10 2002 what grade should he be in? I am confused.

Throughout most of the country he would be a 2021 - 7th grader and not considered to be old but rather within the typical age range for his grade

In NY with the late birthday cutoff he may be an 8th grader (2020)

Most Maryland Prep schools as well as most clubs would suggest he reclassify to 2022 class which would make him one year older than his classmates. This would make him more attractive to D1 coaches who ignore age and recruit by class

None of the above is my personal opinion of what is the right thing to do, it is just a statement of fact.



a nov birthday is either considered young or old for the grade; who are you trying to kid. If you believe in a lie long enough you believe it. Just like a march kid used to be considered on the older side in Ny... that is until people stated holding their kids back because they "weren't ready" for kindergarten.

the hold back is to give their kids an advantage at life whether social academic or athletic.



Enough with the whining about hold backs. If the kid is truly graduating in 2020 then let them play in that year. If they are not, then that is cheating and a different story. If parents think having their kid finish middle school with a drivers license is the best way to go, more power to them. I think it is moronic as you should just let kids be kids but that's the beauty of America, people are free to do what they want even if I think it is really stupid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 01:03 PM
Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?


Heard it might be George Powers, Turtles coach. Should be interesting. Thinking they may be getting a lot of Pequa and Wantagh kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody hear any information about the bluefish team that is starting. Any idea who will Coach this age group?


Heard it might be George Powers, Turtles coach. Should be interesting. Thinking they may be getting a lot of Pequa and Wantagh kids.


If it's a great coach, that's very good for the Nassau kids. Woukd be nice to have another A team in this year from Nassau.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 04:08 PM
True Blue is mostly Pequa kids. Viper mostly Bethpage kids. Both very good Nassau teams in this age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
True Blue is mostly Pequa kids. Viper mostly Bethpage kids. Both very good Nassau teams in this age group.


Viper last year was
Bethpage
Farmingdale
Port Washington
Hills
Plainedge
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/07/15 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??


Crabs and fca most likely
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??


Crabs and fca most likely


In the Baltimore area
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??


Crabs and fca most likely


What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 08:11 PM
So what did the T91 MD tryouts look like today? What helmets were out there?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??


Crabs and fca most likely


What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)


Crabs had a great season. They were 27-2 and played the best possible competition. Not too shabby and will likely be even better next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the top 2020 playing this Fall??


Crabs and fca most likely


What tournaments did either of them win this past season (aside from the beach lax fiasco)


Crabs had a great season. They were 27-2 and played the best possible competition. Not too shabby and will likely be even better next year.


Unfortunately everyone knows what they are so wherever they show up people will look and wonder which kids don't really belong there - tainted.

I don't know why someone keeps bringing up FCA, they were probably the 5th best team in the area after Crabs, Looneys, Hawks, and Breakers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what did the T91 MD tryouts look like today? What helmets were out there?


At 2020, Breakers, Crabs, Koopers helmets were most common but there were a lot of kids with many different helmets represented. A lot of coaches on the field to handle the number of kids trying out and they used both the upper and lower field at St Paul's for drills.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/08/15 11:34 PM
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


Fair enough I guess
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 12:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.


You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 02:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.


You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?


they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.


You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?


they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.


Sounds like their supremacy is preordained :-)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 02:05 PM
Better and older
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 08:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.


You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?


they have teams that play in vail, lake placid etc that bring kids together from all over. and then they have a club made up if kids in MD. The 2020 md team is very good and may not have won any major tournaments but they did beat Looney's for the spring championship.


That is the only thing they have, they beat Looney's. News flash, spring league means nothing, it is there to prepare teams for tournament play. 2020 Looneys's had a great tournament season, only losing to 91 by one goal. Looney's played some of the top competition out of LI and overall was successful.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agree. Fca 2020 has never won an A tourney.


They brag about beating Looney's while not at full strength.


They will be a totally different team in the coming years, as they will recruit nationally. This is what they do, and how they win moving into the more important years!


What does that even mean? Families will move to Baltimore so their kids can play for FCA? You're a big FCA fan, we get it, but they haven't done much at 2020.


You really don't get it? Let me explain, they recruit the best kids frim all over. Ask them to play for free or very little money. The kids show up and and they win the tournament. For example, U15 US lax championship, Lake Placid championship. Sweetlax does the same, they both have many top LI kids playing for these championship winning teams. This is the reality that lies ahead. You may not have seen them win much...yet. that's because it hasn't mattered yet. Big years start now. Do you understand now?


So please enlighten me. When does it matter? I've been around the game a long time and don't think I have ever seen a youth lacrosse club game that mattered. Did the winners get free snowballs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:23 PM
Is it true that the looneys face off kid is changing clubs or just rumors
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:23 PM
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is it true that the looneys face off kid is changing clubs or just rumors


No, just FCA parents wishful thinking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.


Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.


Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team


But worse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.


Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team


But worse

Ok looneys daddy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.


Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team


But worse

Ok looneys daddy

I would never let my son play for that daddy ball organization
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 11:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fca and sweetlax have national teams which is the only way they can compete against the top teams in the country. Hats off to traditional club teams that compete without forming national teams.


Fca only uses the national team for a few tournaments like vail. The local teams are just like every other team


But worse

Ok looneys daddy


I would never let my son play for that daddy ball organization


If looneys FO guy goes to another team their 2020 will pretty much be toast
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/09/15 11:46 PM
If any key player left any team, the team would have to step up. That is what a team does. Love it when you nutty people say if this guy left or that guy left a team would be different. It is funny. If a qb left an NFL team they would be different too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 01:06 PM
Fall ball will be interesting this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 02:07 PM
fall ball is never interesting, unless your talking about FootBall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 02:55 PM
Is Bluefish a NEW team or have a few teams merged?
Bluefish is a fairly new club run by professionals. They are NOT affiliated with any other club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 04:27 PM
Any 2020 teams playing fall ball at Cantiague Park?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 04:46 PM
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.

I think by "2020 year" you mean 8th grade year. In that case I agree. It is no longer u13 youth lacrosse. Come November for the Fall travel season your son will be considered a "rising 9th grader". This group will include the reclass kids and much movement between club teams. Some kid will be shut out as an older more mature player takes his place. Others will decide to leave a club with a great instruction focused youth program to go to a club which will improve his change of being recognized by a college coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


You guys are just haters. All of them fit the requirements
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Yes plus the team they already have which is pretty good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 07:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up


Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up


Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.



By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/10/15 10:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up


Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.



By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat


Those kids are all age appropriate for their respective grades and are not repeating a grade to play on the the 2020 team. Go peddle that nonsense someplace else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/11/15 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 year seems to be the year where kids jump clubs before recruiting starts. fca 2020 will look very different this year with their 2020s who played up last year being on the team for the full season.


Love how some clubs try to spin their holdback schemes rather than just be honest about it....Playing up...yea right, what are their birthdates? Before or after 9/1/01? I have to give credit though...that one was pretty creative.


Go look at the fca 2019 roster they show who's playing up


Are they playing up by birth year, or were they playing up by graduation year? I know one kid on the team who was born in the summer of 2001 and is a rising eight grader. The kid is an excellent player and should be by birth year and eight grader going ninth, but his parents left him back or he did pre first and is currently a seventh rising into eight. I assume he is one of the kids who will be joining the 2020's from the 2019's.



By graduating year I think. I believe all the kids coming are in the same boat


Those kids are all age appropriate for their respective grades and are not repeating a grade to play on the the 2020 team. Go peddle that nonsense someplace else.


The one goalie staying back is a summer 2003 birth year, that is 2019 graduation! His parents either started him a school year late or held him back a year.

FCA parents already lying, better put on your boots, the [lacrosse] is getting deep!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/11/15 12:58 AM
Summer 2001 not 2003
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/11/15 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/11/15 02:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.


so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/11/15 08:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.


so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.


No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.


so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.


No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.


Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.


so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.


No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.


Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..


Yes- that's the point- take the manipulation out of the game and the best teams will have the most skilled athletes, not the oldest and most physically mature. Agreed- Crabs is a completely different team without holdbacks. They are good, but not amazing. I am sure they will have a much older roster this year which is sad, as so many kids are being used as pawns for a business. It's a risk and more than a few may not even have it work for them to get into a better school, let alone scholarship money. Just stupid to redo a year of your life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 12:55 PM
Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer 2001 not 2003


Summer 2001 should be rising 9th grader. They may not have held back but they started late by every state's standards so are older than the majority of 2020s. For age based their whole team would have had to play U15 this past season while most 2020s could play U13.


so you guys are whining about summer 2001 bday kids playing 2020? my kid is spring 02 2020 and not FCA. Those kids were in 7th grade this past year and played 2019. they need to play u15 or 2020 next spring - which is essentially the same.


No one is whining- I think the poster is stating facts- like it or not, a summer birthday doesn't meet the criteria of 9/1/01 for this kid. My kid plays up too- but that is a choice. However, should it be a choice for kids to play below the age guidelines- just because? no. Simply stated, he can play in 2020 grad year, but will not qualify for u13 now and eventually cannot play u15 games when he misses that cut off.Ther 2020 older kids will most likely get away with being a summer birthday- but in a few years I do believe there will be age requirements applied- for insurance purposes. It will eventually come around like hockey and it won't matter if you were born one day after the cut off- you play with your birth year- period. There are many big hockey clubs that are huge businesses and they survived. Lax clubs will too.


Many may survive but will they be the same. Current Crabs without holdbacks are not the Crabs..They need that edge..


Yes- that's the point- take the manipulation out of the game and the best teams will have the most skilled athletes, not the oldest and most physically mature. Agreed- Crabs is a completely different team without holdbacks. They are good, but not amazing. I am sure they will have a much older roster this year which is sad, as so many kids are being used as pawns for a business. It's a risk and more than a few may not even have it work for them to get into a better school, let alone scholarship money. Just stupid to redo a year of your life.


Unfortunately when parents see kids double reclassing and ending up at Duke and ND, it leads to parents thinking maybe it's not so stupid. Personally I don't care if kids reclass 100 times, it just shouldn't be at the expense of other lacrosse players. High school is high school, but club should be age based at least to 16 years old.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.


Let's all hope so, it's about time. Sorry holdbacks, it's never a good idea to try to get ahead by cheating the system. Karma has a way of coming back and biting you in the a**
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was told at a recent NSCLA meeting that age divisions were suggested by the folks who run Denver Elite along the same way hockey is run. Everyone concurred except one organization. It makes sense to do this and I predict this will be in place by the summer season of 2016.


Let's all hope so, it's about time. Sorry holdbacks, it's never a good idea to try to get ahead by cheating the system. Karma has a way of coming back and biting you in the a**


What are the early rumors about player movement amongst the top teams on the island? With tryout season starting there must be some shifting coming up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 02:10 AM
I heard crabs is bringing down 2017 kids down for the 2020 team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:20 AM
gosh more of them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:21 AM
kids will leave crush and hit some of the other top clubs, express or legacy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
gosh more of them?


And a few dads are playing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 01:29 PM
And Igloo...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And Igloo...

and fl$
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:07 PM
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:26 PM
Express terps are losing a few kids as well...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 03:57 PM
Hopefully the new express kids won't cry when adversity come their way...that team collectively sheds more tears when they lost or are under duress. Soft or just too much pressure?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 04:04 PM
I was never one. You do what's best for your family. Period!! If your kid wants to be with kids younger than him and think he is better than he really is God bless. Reality catches up sooner or later. I like my kid playing against older kids because when he smokes them or shuts them down its so much sweeter!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 04:48 PM
and you can pound your chest...go punch the clock...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks


My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express terps are losing a few kids as well...


Where are they going?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 05:45 PM
elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks


My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.


** tumbleweeds **

Did you write material for Bob Hope? Cutting edge work, there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 07:31 PM
He's a little young and small for a certain Md. team!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks



My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.


If he was my son, I would put him on 2021 team even if he is a little young for Crabs 2021 team..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/16/15 03:03 PM
the reason August tryouts are not good was experienced by many at tryouts this weekend, mid nineties and 2 hours on a lacrosse field is stupid..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/16/15 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the reason August tryouts are not good was experienced by many at tryouts this weekend, mid nineties and 2 hours on a lacrosse field is stupid..


How is that any different than what they will play in a tournament setting? Many times games are back to back, in 90 plus degree weather and they can sometimes go 3-5 games in a day if they make it to a championship. The kids are trying out for a SUMMER TOURNAMENT team.

My kids and many others have been attending camps, clinics and private sessions in this weather all summer long. Yes, it is hot, but the kids have been playing in it and doing fine. Get the try outs over and done with so parents know what team their kid is on, when and where they will practice, what Fall tournaments are on the horizon and it lets the kids concentrate on school right from the start.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/16/15 10:16 PM
Concentrate on school, yeah that's the reason for the 100 degree august tryouts. Good one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 12:43 AM
The reason is simple all these greedy organizations want as many kids and make as many teams as possible A B C D E. Please don't kid yourself into believing this is for real. If your kid is not on the A team don't waste your money or your time!!! It's all about the $$$$. They are laughing all the way to the bank!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The reason is simple all these greedy organizations want as many kids and make as many teams as possible A B C D E. Please don't kid yourself into believing this is for real. If your kid is not on the A team don't waste your money or your time!!! It's all about the $$$$. They are laughing all the way to the bank!!!


Agreed- the move is to keep in line with all the clubs- trying to get the kids first. That said- no one should complain about the weather. The kids played in it all summer long. If you are ever going to do showcases and prospect days- be prepared to play in 90 plus degree weather and 30 degree weather. Coaches do not care if you think it is too hot or cold.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 02:25 AM
The showing at the tryouts today was awesome and A lot of various different helmets at each tryout
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks


My 6'3" 210 lb 2018 middie is trying out for the 2020 team. He's PG'ing and red shirting. We realize he'll be a little undersized against the 2020 teams from Lax-a-cheats-it, Crabs and Dukes, but we just couldn't justify playing 2021. Those kids only come to his waist. Nothing in the rules against it, so if we say he's 2020, then he's 2020. He's only going to play in the summer. He won't play fall ball because he starts at MLB and TE on the Varsity Football team. When the summer comes we'll only let him play out of state teams. They're all fine with it.


If he was my son, I would put him on 2021 team even if he is a little young for Crabs 2021 team..


And if anyone calls you on it just remember the Crabs' motto..."no rules were broken"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 01:02 PM
Baseball players don't complain about the heat. this sport is way too watered down if you are complaining about heat. my god man I am 47yo and ran 6 miles yesterday, just drink enough water and take a break when you can, then jump in the pool.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Long Island express 2020 is getting hold backs this year and crush kids. What does that mean for my son who plays on the same team. It will make our team better but this team has been together for years what will that do to our chemistry. I guess we will see hope it goes well.


That's interesting because all the long island people do is whine about holdbacks


We need to whine because it's frustrating when you have to play against older kids all the time. Team is going to pick up a few "holdbacks" this year because a number of kids are repeating 8th grade. Sad that this is what it's come to and all because of the MD private schools trying to game the system.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 02:56 PM
Thank You for the sounds words of advice Crabbie Daddy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 05:24 PM
2020 Express Wolverines taking up to 10 new kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 Express Wolverines taking up to 10 new kids


Where are the 10 departing kids going?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 06:05 PM
wolverine is team 2 for 2020?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 06:47 PM
Can someone give me the pecking order of the Express 2020 teams by name - I get confused . What is the A team, 2nd team, 3rd team ?...thanks,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 08:10 PM
Terps
wolverines
barracudas
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps
wolverines
barracudas


Also known as Teams 1, 2 and 3.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 08:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terps
wolverines
barracudas


Also known as Teams 1, 2 and 3.


Or a,b and c
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 09:36 PM
How did the tryouts go for all the 2020s
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:48 AM
went great, thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 12:08 PM
Hearing a lot of movement from Express terps many people not happy with the Dad coaches
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hearing a lot of movement from Express terps many people not happy with the Dad coaches


Is anyone ever happy with Dad coaches? One of the worst aspects of youth sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:25 PM
They are not happy now because reality sets in when you see dad kids getting more playing time when they don't deserve it!!! Just because dad is the coach... It's all fun and games until it effects you...daddy coaches equals a cancer..almost as bad as keeping kids on the team just because they know people. I don't know which is worse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:27 PM
I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are not happy now because reality sets in when you see dad kids getting more playing time when they don't deserve it!!! Just because dad is the coach... It's all fun and games until it effects you...daddy coaches equals a cancer..almost as bad as keeping kids on the team just because they know people. I don't know which is worse.


Hasn't it always been this way? Why would kids be driven away now?

However, I do agree, watching better players take a back seat on any team, not just Terps, is frustrating, but it does happen all over so bound to happen at other teams they go to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode


Team is getting better, cutting some of the dead wood and picking up some strong kids, core of team staying put from what i hear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 02:40 PM
Dead wood means starting with the middie coach but we all know that is not going to happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 03:22 PM
When you say strong players do you mean kids that are in 8 th grade are going to do 8th grade again and play kids that are younger than them HOLDBACKS!! When you are 14 playing against 13 year olds doesn't mean you are getting better. Means you are playing down to get an advantage or your kid is dumb and needs more help in school. CALL IT HOW IS!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 04:06 PM
Wow!!!!!! I guess the terps are going to implode. Those replies are definitely coming from the inside.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 04:17 PM
If you're a parent on Terps I'd consider you "dead wood" for making such a stupid comment. Every kid on that team can play. They may not all be among the most elite in the nation, but they can all play at a high level. Stop with the mean-spirited put downs of kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 05:53 PM
Please stop saying the truth. We live in a society of entitlement!!! Everybody gets to play.... Wah wah!! Nobody wants to hear the truth who are you Donald trump!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/18/15 06:16 PM
Welcome losers!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode


I heard Terps lost a crazy dad. They are heading to where they started. Funny because they have bad mouthed them for the last 2 years. Let's see how long they last over there. Not sure what JS is thinking. He may want to re-think his decision! Good luck Crush Parents!


Why would JS take him back?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don't know why anybody would try out for express terps right now sounds like team is going to implode


I heard Terps lost a crazy dad. They are heading to where they started. Funny because they have bad mouthed them for the last 2 years. Let's see how long they last over there. Not sure what JS is thinking. He may want to re-think his decision! Good luck Crush Parents!


Why would JS take him back?


No the Jack A.. DELETED
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 12:48 PM
Tryouts will be fun across every program as I'm sure all will undergo changes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 01:05 PM
Terps coaches really should be coaching B team. Because that's where there kids belong it's a joke they are playing on A team and getting more time than other kids. Only one that deserves it is the attackman. Other 2 not so fast.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 01:09 PM
JS will make sure the kid gets a fair shot. The reason why crush outshines terps is because he is willing to put the best on the field no matter what unlike the terps!!! Can't wait until we smoke you!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
JS will make sure the kid gets a fair shot. The reason why crush outshines terps is because he is willing to put the best on the field no matter what unlike the terps!!! Can't wait until we smoke you!!!!


With that said, looks like your kid may not play much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 01:35 PM
91 has tons of "Dad" coaches
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 01:43 PM
Truth is with how competitive travel lacrosse has become it is virtually impossible to find a non dad coach that will put in the necessary time to be competitive. Man everyone breathe
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 has tons of "Dad" coaches


Including Mr. Spallina...LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 02:22 PM
This is the person you are talking about and making up lies . I wish nothing but great things to Express and all the players on that team . My sons experience there was a great one and i wish them all the best , Coach Keith is a great person and coach . I would recommend anyone looking for a great team to consider the 2020 terps. It is unfortunate people use this forum to vent there own issues hiding behind and anonymous forum. Good luck to all in the upcoming years ...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 02:35 PM
Mr. Mule, Mr. Rooney. some teams do ok with Dad Coaches. Terps coach is a dad and also the HC of St. Anthonys HS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 02:48 PM
Why are some of the Express kids repeating 8th grade?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the person you are talking about and making up lies . I wish nothing but great things to Express and all the players on that team . My sons experience there was a great one and i wish them all the best , Coach Keith is a great person and coach . I would recommend anyone looking for a great team to consider the 2020 terps. It is unfortunate people use this forum to vent there own issues hiding behind and anonymous forum. Good luck to all in the upcoming years ...


Way to take the high road.. Good job!

Take note bashers!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why are some of the Express kids repeating 8th grade?


what positions are repeating 8th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 02:08 PM
Anybody go to the express tryouts? How was the showing? Any holdback so as reported?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 03:36 PM
150+ at tryouts some very good players with some standouts. really good tryout, will be hard to pick the top team and not upset a lot of people. Every kid thinking of going to Catholics was there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 04:22 PM
That's great. Thanks for the update. So you are saying if you want to go to catholic school and play you have to play for express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 04:24 PM
If anybody gets upset they are not on the top team they have other options it's America. Be interesting to see if they pick the best or politics comes into play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That's great. Thanks for the update. So you are saying if you want to go to catholic school and play you have to play for express.

And this is News to you?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 05:00 PM
if you are going to catholic school and are a 2020 - the team coaches at express are the Head Coach at St. Anthonys and the Defensive coordinator for chaminade.. you don't have to play express and play at catholic but not a bad place to be to get to know your coaches
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 05:14 PM
No I do not believe it. I think when you get to that level it doesn't matter where you played. The best kids are going to play. Period.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 05:34 PM
Where do people think the Bluefish will fit into the 2020 equation? are there any rumors of defections from other teams? will there be any fallout?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 05:39 PM
was at express tryouts, Evaluators said close to 200 kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 06:07 PM
Don't go by number of kids go by quality of kids!!! B C D teams don't count are you upgrading or not? That's all that really matters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 09:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
was at express tryouts, Evaluators said close to 200 kids.


It was a good number but much less than 200. Problem was the organization had no control. Lots of talent there, but no way evaluators could pick. Not enough reps for the kids, prior express kids just kept cutting in front of lines. Pretty poorly run, especially if you compare with 91 tryouts. Supposed to be scrimmages next week. They better have more than one field. If not, you know this was money grab and nothing else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/21/15 10:55 PM
Come on they are all money grabs. They know the A team before tryouts with phone calls and behind the scene politics. Their May be 1 lucky kid that catches someone's eye because of size or speed other than that everyone else is fighting for the B C D team. But we are the stupid ones that keep paying!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 02:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do people think the Bluefish will fit into the 2020 equation? are there any rumors of defections from other teams? will there be any fallout?


Powers is coaching so thr team will be extremely well coached.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 03:19 AM
They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 12:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.


Why do you say that? Powers is a proven identifier of talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They will get blown out on a regular basis unless they play in bs tournaments.


Why do you say that? Powers is a proven identifier of talent.


I'm guessing that if the majority of top players are already attached to one of the bigger proven clubs, the talent showing up for a new club will not be as strong. If a club can prove themselves, you may see some stronger kids being attracted in a year or two. One way to have early success is to bring an established team over to a club to start the momentum.

I'd say this team will have some success in the future just based on thei directors, but they may have to build from the younger teams and market to the Nassau county kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 02:03 PM
thank you Nostradamus. your guess is in the record book.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 04:24 PM
It is a fact!!! You cannot start a legit team in 8th grade unless you are getting other teams good kids!! At this age there is only so many quality kids to go around and I'm sure the top teams already have them!!! Legacy and Express... If your kid is in 8th grade is your best choice.. Don't kid yourself on any other team!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 05:02 PM
it must be true you put so many !!!! in your post. thanks for setting us all straight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 06:23 PM
Welcome
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 06:32 PM
If the best 24 players from the tryout played for Powers this would be a very "real" team. Not best of the best, but very respectable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 07:25 PM
Ok what is respectable against top 5 teams. How much are they losing by? And by respectable are you paying 2000 dols for that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/23/15 11:21 PM
is powers still dedicated, and will this be the only team he coaches. a couple of questions to ask. Cromwell over @ Igloo is one of the best coaches around, but he is spread thin.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/24/15 12:30 AM
Cromwell is doing two teams this year, and according to my conversation they will work it out so that he can be at all the tournaments, and practices are not a concern as they can control that schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/24/15 12:36 AM
This is the smartest thing I have read on here ......Good Job!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/24/15 01:51 AM
That is good news. Information like that is what this site should be used more for. Cromwell is one of the better coaches out there, guessing some complaints were answered from last year. First year is never easy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/24/15 12:11 PM
Problem with this, is what teams gets to go to the better tournaments? One team always suffers and it will usually be the younger one. Not a bash just a fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/24/15 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the best 24 players from the tryout played for Powers this would be a very "real" team. Not best of the best, but very respectable.


Agreed. But they would need to lock down the talent sooner than later. Their last tryout is in mid September...most, if not all, of the talented players that showed up will most likely be snagged up by then by existing teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/25/15 07:01 PM
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/25/15 07:15 PM
If over Christmas, hopefully None will go. What a joke. Let families enjoy the break its out of season anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/25/15 07:24 PM
They are all a joke and money grabs. Save your money
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/25/15 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?


No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 12:29 AM
I'm trying to find a strong B /(not so strong) A team for my son. He is better than average B player but not quite at elite level. He has been improving over the past few years but unfortunately, he is not affiliated with a strong program so spots for a kid on the come are limited. Does anyone have an opinion of a team that will challenge him but not overwhelm him?

Thanks,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 03:34 AM
Great turnout legacy!! Zummo your doing a great job keep it up!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 11:56 AM
Legacy picked up some Crush. Where will the Terps fall out in the pecking order?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 12:14 PM
Outlaws or Igloo would be a good option for you depending on where you live.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?


No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.


They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy picked up some Crush. Where will the Terps fall out in the pecking order?


Are saying offers have gone out for Taz team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?


No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.


They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.


So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?


No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.


They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.


So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?


Are you saying your team beat the Crabs or Crush this summer? I would say they are the two best teams out there and despite the lesser known teams being at the World Series, I would say the two strongest teams in the country were in the championship game. That said, I do not believe they beat the weak Crabs- they beat the Crabs teams that were age appropriate for u13. The stronger Crab team can play in High School if they want- possibly even as Sophmores! So maybe the new improved Crabs should be called 2018/2019 instead of 2020. Fooling no one- just gaming the system- but yes, no rules are broken- we know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Outlaws or Igloo would be a good option for you depending on where you live.


Outlaws have new coaches in this age group for the upcoming year and they have excellent reputations so you should consider them from that perspective instead of relying on what you may hear or have already heard about prior coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 03:12 PM
Crush dad trying to stay relevant. Please this is a big year lots of changes worry about your own team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 04:10 PM
No matter who they bring in the coaching change should be viewed as a positive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/26/15 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There seem to be several supposed national club championships in Florida over Christmas break (Dicks, Madlax etc.)

Which tournament, if any, are the better 2020 teams going to?


No need to go. We all know, Crush are the Natiional Champions. Beat the best of the best from all over the USA in Denver and did it in style.


They are the best, but that Denver tournament sucked and the teams that attended were weak.


So you're sons team beat the "weak" Crabs this summer?


Are you saying your team beat the Crabs or Crush this summer? I would say they are the two best teams out there and despite the lesser known teams being at the World Series, I would say the two strongest teams in the country were in the championship game. That said, I do not believe they beat the weak Crabs- they beat the Crabs teams that were age appropriate for u13. The stronger Crab team can play in High School if they want- possibly even as Sophmores! So maybe the new improved Crabs should be called 2018/2019 instead of 2020. Fooling no one- just gaming the system- but yes, no rules are broken- we know.


Most elite 2020 teams can probably beat the Crabs weak "2020" team. Good players but nothing special without their holdbacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/28/15 02:39 PM
Any of the teams picked yet with tryouts completed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 02:07 AM
Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any of the teams picked yet with tryouts completed.


Most A teams were picked two weeks ago...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.


It is great to hear that Bluefish seems to be drawing talent, it has potential to draw kids from the area that don't wish to travel as much to practice, but like you said, you don't know who is going where. If you go with a bunch of kids you have an advantage, but being on the outside, you only hope they retained a bunch of the better talent from try outs. I really think once the age thing is settled, if ever, there should be some work done on try outs. It would be so much easier for the whole if a coach retained the players he wanted to keep and allowed those that he felt needed to move on go, ahead of the big try outs so there are no surprises and then when everyone attends try outs- you know which positions are available and you know how that team competes and if you have a shot. Wishful thinking and certainly not easy for the kid that gets let go, but possibly a more gentle way than not receiving an email.

As for the. 24 hour decision- I never heard of a club doing that. My boys were always given a week, maybe five days at the least. My kids have played for various clubs over the many years and it was never 24 hrs. I hope no one is actually pushing that time frame. That said, there's a kid whose heart is crushed and wants a spot and anxiously waiting to see if someone declines , so from the other side, I hope if families know they aren't accepting, they do ds quickly, not for the club but for the kids waiting for a spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 12:38 PM
Bluefish shouldnt't be billed as a south Nassau team . I know for a fact there were several players there for tryouts from all over the island. The opportunity to be coached by Mr. Powers is a huge draw...point being players weren't there because it was close or convenient necessarily. If Bluefish want to make a very good 2020 team they should be a little more proactive then wait until Wednesday to reach out to players by email. If, for example, Mr. Powers called the players he wants to coach and had a definite game plan for the team you might have a winner here. The Bluefish website has tuition listed but doesn't know what equipment, if any, you will receive yet....kind of vague to plunk down money. Nonetheless, I think the program has great possibilities if handled correctly. Fear the Fish!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another big turnout for Bluefish.....Impressed that the evaluators were actively coaching/teaching/encouraging (especially Powers, Tierney and Allen) during the tryout. Not just a bunch of guys silently watching while holding clipboards. Thought it was actually very well done..Also liked how Tierney talked to the parents and kids in a group after each tryout, hung around to answer questions, etc. Very different than other tryouts we have been to recently.

Question is who will take the leap? Several major clubs have offers out and teams largely if not entirely selected. Noticed lots of GC and several True Blue helmets trying out. A couple good Viper players there as well as 1-2 from Igloo. Heard group of TB parents talking about running from Hofstra directly to Massapequa for their tryout. Think everybody is juggling tryouts and tyring to do what's best for their kid. It is a crazy time!

So as others have said, if the best talent signed on this could be a very legitimate team which no doubt will be propelled by excellent coaching. Again,really liked that aspect of the thing. I just don't know how many of these top kids will actually end up on the team. They promised emails by mid-week, but some of the kids they have on their list may even be gone by then. The whole "force you to commit in 24-48hrs" thing is another unpleasant aspect of this process.....but I digress.


It is great to hear that Bluefish seems to be drawing talent, it has potential to draw kids from the area that don't wish to travel as much to practice, but like you said, you don't know who is going where. If you go with a bunch of kids you have an advantage, but being on the outside, you only hope they retained a bunch of the better talent from try outs. I really think once the age thing is settled, if ever, there should be some work done on try outs. It would be so much easier for the whole if a coach retained the players he wanted to keep and allowed those that he felt needed to move on go, ahead of the big try outs so there are no surprises and then when everyone attends try outs- you know which positions are available and you know how that team competes and if you have a shot. Wishful thinking and certainly not easy for the kid that gets let go, but possibly a more gentle way than not receiving an email.

As for the. 24 hour decision- I never heard of a club doing that. My boys were always given a week, maybe five days at the least. My kids have played for various clubs over the many years and it was never 24 hrs. I hope no one is actually pushing that time frame. That said, there's a kid whose heart is crushed and wants a spot and anxiously waiting to see if someone declines , so from the other side, I hope if families know they aren't accepting, they do ds quickly, not for the club but for the kids waiting for a spot.


I agree with what you are saying. Why make a kid the coach has already decided to cut try out. The kid could have spectacular tryout and still be cut because decisions have already been made. I also know of kids who have incredible tryouts not make a team in favor of keeping a much more mediocre kid whose parents are friends with coach. With a new team, it is really hard to know what you will get, and maybe not worth the gamble if you already are on a decent well established team. I agree that the coach should cut the kids he doesn't want to keep, before tryouts. At least those kids then have the opportunity to try out for other teams and not sit around waiting for an email. Oh, but then the greedy directors would not be able to collect more tryout money. That is just not right! I also don't like the idea that many kids tryout but have no intention of playing on the team. I would not want my son to be second choice after someone else declined. Good luck to all the boys, and for those who are cut, you will survive. Work hard and stay positive. Many of today's best players were cut at some point, and went on success in a big way. All while the coach that cut them scratches his head!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 05:44 PM
2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4


Upgrades to team 1 or team 2? Did Team 1 make themselves stronger? They needed to shake it up a bit too- no?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 06:50 PM
Crush got some very good upgrades themselves. Same goes for Terps..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 Express Wolverines(2) some huge upgrades especially at the midfield and defense
Added very good viper players and rvc kids.

Definitely made themselves a real solid team

CRUSH
TERPS
LEGACY
WOVERINES
top 4


You call all of the teams except for one by their team name why is that5c
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 08:24 PM
I'm unaware if Legacy has a team name
Do they have another 2020 team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 09:37 PM
Taz is their team name, coaches initials. I prefer to be called Koko the monkey myself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 09:47 PM
Hey wolverine dad pipe down you are not number 4 unless your terps team took a hit and went down. Everything will be settled on the field. Remember other teams on your list made some huge upgrades. But don't come on here pounding there chests! And not every kid you or other teams think they got. They did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 10:08 PM
how many goalies at 2020 bluefish
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 10:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many goalies at 2020 bluefish


There was at least 6 goalies.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/30/15 11:32 PM
There were 9 this week and 6 last week
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 01:01 AM
So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 01:07 AM
the goalies were strong, all shapes and sizes but they all looked like they could play the position. Good to see a lot of strong goalies battling it out, looked they were tested pretty good by the coaches and the players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?


Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?


Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.



Guess it really depends if you are considering the Crabs holdback loaded team in the mix. Of course "on paper" they will be number one but everyone knows their deal and discounts them as a true 2020. Looneys, Hawks, Breakers (now Team 91 Maryland) and FCA Blue. These 4 on any given day flip flop in rankings. Looneys lost a few players, Hawks tends to remain consistent, Breakers replaced 4 or 5 players and FCA was expected to have some 2020s that were playing 2019 move down to 2020. Should be a good year as these kids approach high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what are the "on paper" rankings of the AA MD clubs besed on what we know about tryout results?


Per Crabs parents, they are number 1 and everyone else sucks! Just ask one.



Guess it really depends if you are considering the Crabs holdback loaded team in the mix. Of course "on paper" they will be number one but everyone knows their deal and discounts them as a true 2020. Looneys, Hawks, Breakers (now Team 91 Maryland) and FCA Blue. These 4 on any given day flip flop in rankings. Looneys lost a few players, Hawks tends to remain consistent, Breakers replaced 4 or 5 players and FCA was expected to have some 2020s that were playing 2019 move down to 2020. Should be a good year as these kids approach high school.


Maryland has it's own thread. How are the LI teams shaping up? Seems to be a lot of player movement this year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 03:14 PM
This year? Every year there is a lot of player movement. There will be a lot of player movement every year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 03:14 PM
Viper had a very good team last year. Seems like several of their players may be on the move.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 04:24 PM
Big year of movement for the Vipers. A few of their top players are going to private school so they are on the move.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Big year of movement for the Vipers. A few of their top players are going to private school so they are on the move.


Where did you hear that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 04:54 PM
he read it on back of the cage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 05:47 PM
Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters


Good player but a stupid comment. Viper probably beat your sons team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 08:18 PM
They did because of 11 had nobody to match up with him
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 10:30 PM
I don't like to single out kids, but we played and lost to Viper and the face off kid was by far the best kid on the field (not sure of the number). He could play on any team mentioned above and was the only real standout on the field for both teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/31/15 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters


Come on Dad, you know where I went!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 12:19 AM
If the knock on Crush is that they just play the same small group of kids all the time, then how and why did they feel the need to "upgrade?" Did part of their core group leave?only to be replaced by better kids? Otherwise not following how they are better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 12:56 AM
It's all hype bro. Travel lax 101 always say you got better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 01:37 AM
"Come on Dad, you know where I went!" << that is funny...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Vipers number 11 only real threat. Where did he go? That's all that matters


Good player but a stupid comment. Viper probably beat your sons team


Very stupid comment. That kid is a very good player and was the best on the team but he could not beat those teams they beat by himself. Viper had an extremely strong defense and a great goalie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If the knock on Crush is that they just play the same small group of kids all the time, then how and why did they feel the need to "upgrade?" Did part of their core group leave?only to be replaced by better kids? Otherwise not following how they are better


maybe they can spread the wealth of playing time better. I think by them doing this, another team or two significantly got worse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:16 AM
Vipers lost 3 times this summer to a pick up team how good can they be seriously
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:55 AM
sounds to me like Viper 2020 is one and done- hopefully they can put together another strong team.. hate to see a small club with some serious potential leave the scene.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 10:53 AM
Express taking kids who didn't even attend the tryouts. Maybe the right thing would be to refund every the tryout fee to every single kid who didn't make a team? Just a thought....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 11:40 AM
Express not so long ago was Orange, Blue, then White. Then they changed to Terps, Wolves and some fish (pirana, Baracuda). Last year it was team 1, 2, or 3. What are the team names this year and who coaches which team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 12:17 PM
Same coaches as last tear
1-TERPS- Wieczorek -St. Anthony's
2-WOLVERINES-Leghart-Chaminade
3-BARRACUDAS-Leghart
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 12:43 PM
Is this news to you. If your kid is good you don't go to any tryout you just pick the team you want to play for. Tryouts are for B players trying to get a look. Come on how long you been doing this!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 01:39 PM
Is it worth playing on the express #3 team? How were they last year? Is it a B or C team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:05 PM
Leghart makes it worth it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Leghart makes it worth it!


Is he coaching 1 or 2 teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:26 PM
They list the coach as Coach White from Kellenberg. Any info on him?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 02:33 PM
Coach White may be coaching team 3? Leghart supposedly assistant on terps and coaching Wolves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:11 PM
Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:14 PM
just write the check already...somebody has to pay for the 2 night hotel stay for the coaches in July....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?


4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:42 PM
Sounds like rumor mill is running in over-drive. To my knowledge they have never had 4 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?


4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!


Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:56 PM
What is team 2020 white for express is it a c or d team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?


4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!


Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.


What A level tournaments did they win or go to the championship in? Or what true A level teams did they beat? Not meaning to be argumentative just don't recall them being considered an A team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 03:58 PM
White is the coaches name?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 04:10 PM
yup
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express created a 4th team at 2020 level. Was there enough talent at tryouts for a 4th team that can be competitive, or is it a $$$ grab?


4 teams?? Even their top team has slipped. The second team is a decent b team. After that I would run!!


Second team is still being finalized. Last year's team was successful playing in the A bracket.


What A level tournaments did they win or go to the championship in? Or what true A level teams did they beat? Not meaning to be argumentative just don't recall them being considered an A team.


Competitive is what I really meant...beat A teams: True Blue, 3 Village, either beat or tied fl$, etc. Not Terps but also not some meadiocre B team as you suggest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 04:44 PM
Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.


It's funny how you know all about the players that the Terps lost. Do you know who they picked up? You may be pleasantly surprised.......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 04:54 PM
correction---a bunch of kids didn't make terps and moved on to other orgs instead of playing for team 2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 05:31 PM
I may but I really doubt it. Word travels fast! Lmao
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 05:33 PM
Heard they left because things weren't getting any better and too many favors on the team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 05:40 PM
Heard they left because Manhasset Daddys made a package deal
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 06:52 PM
Anyone have information on Express White for 2020?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 07:19 PM
How many teams will express have for 2020
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 07:23 PM
4!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 07:29 PM
At 2020 Express tryout they mentioned having 3 teams. I believe White is the lower level team (White is coach's name). I would like to know more about the level they will play, and the coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.


It's funny how you know all about the players that the Terps lost. Do you know who they picked up? You may be pleasantly surprised.......


Yes we know, and unfortunately for the terps the players they picked up won't make a bit of difference. Lost far more talent then gained with the new pick ups
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 08:38 PM
Leghart is coaching a team in all 50 states and one in the District of Columbia.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/01/15 11:54 PM
Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 12:01 AM
Anyone hear from the BlueFish?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 12:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...


Heard the same. A new starting middie for sure. He's also taking a spot on their man-up squad. JS is making him a team Captain. Heard kids on the team pumped up. Can't wait to see him play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 01:23 AM
crush got Rabil.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:07 AM
Heard crush got 4 more kids to ride the bench and wAtch the same kids play all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Crush got a few very good upgrades this year...


Heard the same. A new starting middie for sure. He's also taking a spot on their man-up squad. JS is making him a team Captain. Heard kids on the team pumped up. Can't wait to see him play.


Ok dad, easy there, nobody cracks starting lineup, despite what they may have told you! Pipe it down!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:11 AM
Did they get vipers number DELETED Other than that not many upgrades out there.. Crush doesn't need upgrades as long as they got that big lefty. He runs that team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard crush got 4 more kids to ride the bench and wAtch the same kids play all the time.


And why do you care ? Unless your kid has been directly effected by the situation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:10 AM
Any answers on 2020 Express coach White? Where does team fall I there mix if things?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 11:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Save your breath the Express B team was terrible last year and will not compete with the real A teams. From what I'm hearing a bunch of kids from terps went to fl$ and a starting midfield went to crush. Terps might be in trouble this year. Only time will tell.


Express B entered 7 tournaments last year, won 4 championships, placed 3rd in 2 others and tied for 5th with fl$ in the last one. Sorry to use facts to state my case and refute your so eloquently stated position that Express B was terrible. Express B was obviously not on the level of Crush (who is), Terps or Legacy Taz but they competed quite will against every other A team out there so please save your ignorant and insulting comments for another team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they get vipers number DELETED Other than that not many upgrades out there.. Crush doesn't need upgrades as long as they got that big lefty. He runs that team


Your obsession with this kid is creepy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 11:53 AM
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 01:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 01:30 PM
Express 2020 White is th 4th team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


My question is this... What happened to kids having fun, no matter what level they play at?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:34 PM
Should just put your name down to so the coach knows who is kissing his a$$
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:05 PM
Is it be verified that Express White 2020 is the 4th team,despite the statement at tryouts that there would be 3?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:08 PM
Any information on True Blue 2020 White, and the organization in general?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:21 PM
2020 Express White v. 2020 True Blue White, any opinions on best criteria to help with choice?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:22 PM
first team or fourth team kidding getting better and enjoying the experience is the only thing that should matter to parents.instead of jealous rants and shots at kids abilities
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:31 PM
How are the Vipers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 03:44 PM
Express had 150+ kids to choose from. Express white is team 3?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 04:03 PM
Express $2,600 things are getting way out of control....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 04:26 PM
Come on have to pay for our nice houses and extreme life styles. It's called capitalism you don't like it go somewhere else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 04:44 PM
It's definitely a 4th team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!


I had no idea Trump was a lacrosse fan!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey jerky B.S tournaments don't count my town team can win those. To pay 2000 dols to play in jerry Lewis tournaments is a joke. Save yourself some money and buy your kid some tee shirts.


Hey moron care to share which tournaments are worthy of entering and which are B.S.? Every tournament gets denigrated (go look it up since I'm sure your vocabulary isn't that large) for the lack of quality teams entered or the timing or the organization so which tournaments should the Express B have entered to meet your standards? So quick to criticize, so lacking in substance. Why all the hatred for Express B? Did your kid not make the team as I suspect? Maybe he'd be a better player if you spent more time supporting and working with him and less time spouting ignorant opinions on message boards. Oh wait, like way too much of America today, you find it much easier to blame and criticize others instead of looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility for anything. My son had a wonderful experience on Express B, became a better player and person under Coach Leghart and I am looking forward to hopefully another year just like that for this coming season.
btw you are what's wrong with America these days just want to settle for being 2nd fiddle try being better than the rest and make the A team. Just like we all have to do and make America Great Again!!


Since you couldn't even manage to quote the prior email less than 3 times, I'm pretty sure America would be better off if you converted and went to help Iran build a nuclear bomb. At least then we wouldn't have to worry about it actually working!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 07:35 PM
Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 07:52 PM
not yet, but I am not sure my son was getting one. I would appreciate it if someone who does get one can let us know -so I can set expectations at home. (Thanks in advance)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?


Yes, just recd email invite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 08:12 PM
Confirmed that Express only has 3 teams, not sure where your getting your info from but this is from Express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 08:50 PM
I am assuming 2020 A (not B) I was towards the back and couldn't make out exactly what Tierney said regarding the process other than "emails ...Wednesday"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?


Yes, just recd email invite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am assuming 2020 A (not B) I was towards the back and couldn't make out exactly what Tierney said regarding the process other than "emails ...Wednesday"
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish promised first round of emails today. Anybody hear anything ?


Yes, just recd email invite.


Yes, email said Congratulations and that you made 2020 A team. Email also said coaches would be confirmed shortly on the website.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 10:04 PM
That's funny, I got an email from EXPRESS stating that White will be the coach of a 4th 2020 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/02/15 10:04 PM
Did the ems u l ask you to confirm you accept within a period of time? I know of one kid who made another top team and was planning on taking the other offer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 12:20 AM
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.


Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.


Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.


Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 11:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.


Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.


Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.


Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the Vipers?


The team disbanded
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 11:48 AM
Coaching matters. Leghardt is a class act and a superior coach. If your kid got on the "c" team put him on it. Coach White I am sure is great as well for the fourth team.

Express "C" 2020 never played in a "C" division last year. Leghadrt trained the team all Winter and we came out in the Spring as a solid team. We pnly played in "B" divisions and we beat most "B" teams in our tournaments.

Never predict that a "c" or "d" team kid will not play in College, there are Division 2 and 3 schools right?

For 2016, Express Team Leggy has offered practice to start by next week and 4 additional Fall tournaments.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/03/15 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.


Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.


Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.


Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now


Nice work, love those stories, don't quit, work hard and practice. You can pass other kids with hard work, lots of kids will fall back to the pack in high school and those that work the hardest (weight training and stick skills) will prevail.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 10:14 AM
What's the feelings on bluefish?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 12:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I presume 3rd of 4th Express teams would be afterthoughts with little focus on them. Is that a fair statement? Got notified that my son got on the team but may hold off and go to Bluefish, Jesters or Recon.


Def go to other clubs and try to make their A team, and if not then the B team. Anything more than 2 teams gets lost in the shuffle. They may be very well intentioned znd trying to give a home to all those that wish to play- but truthfully, you'll be better off on a clubs A team, even if they have a smaller following.


Frankly, kids who can only make 3rd or 4th team probably aren't going to playing lacrosse in college so recruiting and exposure really doesn't matter and the parent club's focus or lack thereof on the team is irrelevant. What will make all the difference is the coach of the individual team. Whether it is a C team or a smaller A team, a good coach who encourages and develops the players and makes the season fun will be all that matters. So if you think the C team coach is right for your son, put him there. If you think the A team coach is a better fit, go there. At this level, that will be far and away the most important thing.


Well, my older son only made the "c" team in 8th grade. He later surpassed most a team players in hs. And plays top level D1 now


Not sure if you are trying to dispute what I said but you are actually proving my point. The "c" team your son made probably had a great and supportive coach and your son was able to have a great year and continue to develop and then excel. If you had chosen to jump to an "A" team just because it was an "A" team, you may have ended up with a terrible coach, your son hating lacrosse and he wouldn't be where he is today. So nice job by you putting your son in position to succeed and great job by your son to take advantage of the opportunity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 12:43 PM
That is real shame that the Vipers 2020 team disbanded. They were a very solid team that seemed like we're doing their parents right by keeping costs down and still putting a quality product out there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 01:32 PM
new teams struggle, give a year or two and check back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
new teams struggle, give a year or two and check back.


That's a pretty ignorant comment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 02:42 PM
Seems Bluefish has promise due to coaching and affiliation with University. Some oversights and lack of attention at 2020 tryout on Saturday 8/29. Particularily one of the coaches (actually appeared to be a college kid), not very attentive and made some errors in judgement regarding getting kids balanced playing time in scrimmages. They have a nice idea, remains to be seen whether it will be executed effectively.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 03:24 PM
True....at least 6 kids did not get enough playing time in scrimmage to to Young couch on sideline not substituting properly
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems Bluefish has promise due to coaching and affiliation with University. Some oversights and lack of attention at 2020 tryout on Saturday 8/29. Particularily one of the coaches (actually appeared to be a college kid), not very attentive and made some errors in judgement regarding getting kids balanced playing time in scrimmages. They have a nice idea, remains to be seen whether it will be executed effectively.


Powers said at the first tryout that he was coaching this team. If that is the case your kid will be set. The guy is a great coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 03:58 PM
coaching and great facilities should make for a pretty positive experience. Also veterans at running big clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
coaching and great facilities should make for a pretty positive experience. Also veterans at running big clubs.


Well they are owned by another larger club that will remain nameless. People don't realize that yet for some reason.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 06:17 PM
Or could it be that that larger club is nervous because once you are at the top there's only place to go
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 06:22 PM
owned by a larger club? please elaborate.. Express, 91.. which do you think. Or is it the CRABS?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
owned by a larger club? please elaborate.. Express, 91.. which do you think. Or is it the CRABS?


My vote would be express
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 10:02 PM
So, now that rosters are being finalized, let the games begin! Where should the top teams be playing this fall?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/04/15 10:45 PM
the top teams are playing in Maryland all fall, in a fall league.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 01:05 AM
What teams and what league?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 01:42 AM
You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 02:46 AM
How good are the Madlax national, 3d national, true national etc teams relative to the organization 's club teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 03:00 AM
91MD is going up to play Express, Legacy, Sons, Mesa
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 11:27 AM
Don't waste your gas....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.


WOW !! I see u can add.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 08:49 PM
Let them come and get there beat down!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.


I think the competition would be quite good. Crush on top, naturally but Looneys almost beat them in PA. Crabs, Hawks, FCA and 91MD would give the rest a run for their money. I think the Hawks beat Legacy earlier this year, doesn't everyone say they're #2 on LI these days?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 12:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You fool that dreamer thinks it's the Maryland teams. How about you get your 5 best Maryland teams we will get our 5 best Long Island teams and have a ten team tournament see who comes out on top. With the best record.


I think the competition would be quite good. Crush on top, naturally but Looneys almost beat them in PA. Crabs, Hawks, FCA and 91MD would give the rest a run for their money. I think the Hawks beat Legacy earlier this year, doesn't everyone say they're #2 on LI these days?


Nope, just you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 12:59 PM
Crush taking a beat down.. You're joking, right..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let them come and get there beat down!


Only team that would be a given to beat the five best Maryland teams is Crush and they earned that and the respect that goes with it as they play on age and have worked hard to get where they are. The remaining 4 Long Isalnd teams and the 5 Maryland would be great competitive games. It is not about region wars but good lacrosse for talented kids. And would be great if they used the Denver age cut off for any tourney to even the playing field and exclude those teams that manipulate the grade based rules and start sending the message that the other teams will not tolerate nor accept kids playing down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 01:36 PM
So who is taking the plunge and swimming with the Bluefish?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 02:29 PM
Some of these tournament providers are out of their mind. Charging $1200/1300 for 3 games. Thats $800 a game they are charging to run. Costs less than $200 to run a game for field and refs. Do they really need to make $600 per game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let them come and get there beat down!


Only team that would be a given to beat the five best Maryland teams is Crush and they earned that and the respect that goes with it as they play on age and have worked hard to get where they are. The remaining 4 Long Isalnd teams and the 5 Maryland would be great competitive games. It is not about region wars but good lacrosse for talented kids. And would be great if they used the Denver age cut off for any tourney to even the playing field and exclude those teams that manipulate the grade based rules and start sending the message that the other teams will not tolerate nor accept kids playing down.


DENNVER cut off.. What are you smoking. Most LI 2019 teams/players would qualify.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 04:07 PM
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo


Glad to hear many teams feel that they have strengthened their roster. I have a serious question- where are the top five teams getting these players from? Are they swapping players? Coming from other areas- Westchester- queens etc..? New kids to travel? Pulling kids up from B? Thoughts?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo

Is this nicest uniform list? Otherwise not sure why igloo 2020 is on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo


fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let them come and get there beat down!


Long Island education strikes again!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 07:14 PM
fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 11:35 PM
fl$ lost to Terps and Legacy by 10 goals + last year, so relax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 12:09 AM
fl$ cant compete with the teams on that list. Good team but will lose by 10+ to both those teams again. Faceoff kids on Terps and Legacy are too good for fl$ to compete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 01:43 PM
Came across this article from a few years ago ok- almost a decade ago- a chuckle and a reminder to keep priorities straight...

THE VAULT Close
The Parent Trap

BY RICK REILLY
Originally Posted: July 31, 2006
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I went out to get my paper this morning and found my neighbor Dalton instead.

He was slumped on my stoop, looking as though he'd slept under a marching band. His eyes sported five-pound bags, his right hand was bandaged and bloody, and his face was sunk like a bad soufflé.

"My God!" I said. "What happened to you? You look like a 20-car funeral!"

"Youth lacrosse happened to me," he grumbled. "The Competitive Elite Lacrosse League. My little Ashley made one of those 'travel teams.' Pray it never happens to you, dude."

He explained. "See, I really never thought Ashley was all that hot at lacrosse, and she's only 14. But when she made this competitive team, all the parents said it was a big honor. They said it's the only way to make your high school varsity, and it's the road to a scholarship, and it looks great on your résumé.

"I'm not even sure Ashley wanted to do it. But all of her friends made it, so she just had to do it. What was I gonna do? Tell my little girl no?

"Next thing you know, I'm writing a check for $1,500. Then it turns out, they practice or play seven days a week on these things. And it's clear across town, so pretty soon I'm standing on the sidelines every day of the week.

"My wife can't do it 'cause she has to take Justin to hockey every day. Why an eight-year-old nearsighted kid needs a 42-game schedule is beyond me. What is he, Wayne Gretzky? Plus there's pylon camp and forecheck camp and backward-skating lessons with his personal coach, Hans.

"So pretty soon I got no life. Family dinners? Forget it. Every meal is in the car--righthanded Taco Bell. I almost never see my wife awake. When I do, I have to ask for I.D.

"Then this lunatic lacrosse coach schedules an extra 6 a.m. practice every day. It's like the old bottle-feeding days. I'd be like, 'I got her last time. You get her.' And Denise would moan, 'I had to stay up for Midnight Madness last night. Your turn.' Then, at night Ashley is so tired, we end up doing her dang homework! And we're gettin' C's!

"Anyway, Ashley and I started flying to all these stupid tournaments--Dallas and Baltimore and, my God, Ottawa!--and every one is billed as 'the recruiting event of the year!' And do you know who we see at these tournaments? The same damn girls we used to play in our neighborhood league! Essentially, we're flying across the country to get our [lacrosse] kicked by the same exact people!

"So I start talking to these girls' parents, and it turns out they don't really want to be there either, but their kids were saying we were going to do it, so they had to!

"But then my wife gets to talking to some other moms at Justin's slap shot workshop, and they say we're crazy if we don't have a 'performance-enhancement specialist' for our kids. So she signs them both up with one. Then she finds out most of these girls have 'recruiting consultants' who make highlight reels of kids and send them to college coaches. I'm like, 'She's 14!' And my wife is like, 'You're gonna tell our little girl no?' Then we add a rating-service guy and a sports psychologist and a webmaster.

"Well, what with me working half time and all this crap I'm paying for and all these trips, I had to take out a second mortgage. Denise can't work because she's spending every waking moment in a freezing ice rink, which makes her joints stiffen up. Luckily, Hans knows some New Age massage technique that makes her feel better.

"So now I'm getting no sleep, turning my stomach into a Dumpster and having less sex than a dead monk. But before I can put my foot down, my boss does. He fires me! And as he's firing me, he adds, 'By the way, the average lacrosse scholarship is $1,000, you [lacrosse]!' So I punch him, and now I think my hand might be broken.

"I stomp out and go find Ashley to say, 'It's over.' And she goes, 'Whatever. I quit today anyway. My sports psychologist says you guys push me too hard.'

"Nice. So I go home to tell Denise, but she's not there. Three days go by. I figure she's at the Elite Competitive Hockeypalooza in Cheyenne. Turns out she moved in with Hans. Says she wants to be with someone who 'knows' her. Oh, and she really likes massages.

"So now I get home and somebody changed the locks! Probably the mortgage company, since I'm way behind.

"And do you know what I learned from all this, man? I learned that the most viciously competitive sport in the world is parenting.

"Anyway, what I wanted to ask you is--you wanna buy some lacrosse sticks?"

If you have a comment for Rick Reilly, send it to reilly@siletters.com.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 02:00 PM
Though fl$ is then new Terps?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ lost to Terps and Legacy by 10 goals + last year, so relax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo


fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps


Must be slow weekend in Manhasset if this is what you are doing for fun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 05:08 PM
Lets all be thankful this weekend that we don't have to listen to the Viper guys anymore in this age bracket. Have any of these teams practiced yet? scrimmaged yet? so everyone needs to relax and stop pounding your chests.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets all be thankful this weekend that we don't have to listen to the Viper guys anymore in this age bracket. Have any of these teams practiced yet? scrimmaged yet? so everyone needs to relax and stop pounding your chests.


You should take your own advice
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 06:10 PM
Is viper fielding a team in any age group now? Lol big up and coming program I thought.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/07/15 07:34 PM
I am taking the advice and am glad I don't have to listen to Viper rhetoric anymore. But thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.
sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy has let about 6 or 7 kids go and have upgraded in every area. They should be very good this year and added a lot of size and speed.


Is the pecking order now for LI
1.Crush
2.Legacy
3.Terps
4.fl$
5.Igloo


fl$ will beat both Legacy and Terps


Must be slow weekend in Manhasset if this is what you are doing for fun.
no just slow in commack and WI
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 02:09 PM
What happened to Vipers? Did the whole program fold?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Vipers? Did the whole program fold?


No, just the 2020 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 08:08 PM
Holy Cow ... All that banter about Vipers 2020 and now can't field a team.......amazing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 09:32 PM
Obviously Viper kicked your butt and you didn't like the fact that you were paying 2500 for your son to play and we were paying 850. Most of the parents were humble- sad that Viper team imploded but all those kids will contribute to other programs. Good luck to all!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 10:23 PM
a few of the parents were far from humble..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/08/15 11:05 PM
Then why did the Viper 2020 IMPLODE....then
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/09/15 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Then why did the Viper 2020 IMPLODE....then


Why 2 pages of complaining about a team that doesn't exist?
The scars will heal if you let go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/09/15 01:21 PM
lets move on to the next important topic in 8th grade lacrosse.. oh shiz there are none.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 01:18 AM
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


You "heard"? Ok dad, you got your plug in for your kid's team. Too funny.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.
sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.


What's next "the Jerk Store called and they are all out of you"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 03:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Awesome. Thanks for the update.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 03:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


You "heard"? Ok dad, you got your plug in for your kid's team. Too funny.

So what is the big deal?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 01:25 PM
Princeton is beautiful in the fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ is not beating legacy or terps we know who you have not impressed you have no idea who we both got. You can take that to the bank.
sadly a statement like that may confuse folks that it is a short cut to thinking. I went to the bank and it was closed, just like your mind, I wish you Godspeed as I actually know who you have, glad you are impressed.


What's next "the Jerk Store called and they are all out of you"?
You are so funny, good one. Only took 3 days to respond? How many people did you have to ask since you don't have any original thoughts. Keep em coming though, I'll check back in four days to give you some more time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 05:00 PM
Leave your name tough guy!! We should all know who the wise a$$ are! In case we get to see you on the sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/11/15 05:08 PM
so many tough guys, so little time...keep it classy, let the kids play and stop putting some teams on a pedestal and knocking other ones. There are zero data points for 2016 so they are all winners...leave em be...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Leave your name tough guy!! We should all know who the wise a$$ are! In case we get to see you on the sidelines.


And you are??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 02:13 PM
I remember last year Express Wolerines(B,Legheart or whatever there called) tied that fl$ TEAM
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 06:10 PM
Close to 10 new kids from the Terps, Vipers and other programs added to that 2020 fl$ team. I'm sure ignorant comments about where they came from coming from all you haters in response. Will let the play to the talking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 07:06 PM
If you were content to let the play do the talking you wouldn't be on here boasting about new players.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Close to 10 new kids from the Terps, Vipers and other programs added to that 2020 fl$ team. I'm sure ignorant comments about where they came from coming from all you haters in response. Will let the play to the talking.


Terps will win by over 10 goals. Easliy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 10:30 PM
The Madlax website says that the 2020 Long Island Express team is going to the Madlax club championships in Florida. Is that true?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 11:34 PM
One of the most talented and most liked kid got cut from our team. As parents we all don't agree with it and we think it makes our team weaker. Our kids feel the same way. Our club obviously played politics. So disappointing. Many don't trust this guy now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
One of the most talented and most liked kid got cut from our team. As parents we all don't agree with it and we think it makes our team weaker. Our kids feel the same way. Our club obviously played politics. So disappointing. Many don't trust this guy now.


What guy? Sad to hear this for the kid and the team. Hate that politics play a role. It's rampant in all youth sports. Hope the kid finds a new team to call home.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 12:59 AM
Organization completely sold out this year....and it wasnt just one kid. They had a plan to reshape the team for political reasons.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 02:48 AM
from what team? fl$?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 03:09 AM
Rather than all the ambiguity, why don't you actually state what organization you are talking about. Seems strange the one of the most "talented and liked" kids would get cut.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 12:39 PM
]from what team? fl$? [/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what team? fl$?

Has to be fl$. They today let politics get involved this year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
]from what team? fl$?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from what team? fl$?

Has to be fl$. They today let politics get involved this year. [/quote]

Out of respect for this player... PLEASE do not name the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Madlax website says that the 2020 Long Island Express team is going to the Madlax club championships in Florida. Is that true?


2019 went to Florida and Va last fall. Why not?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/13/15 07:21 PM
It has to be the Express Terps
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It has to be the Express Terps


What teams are practicing already?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 02:11 PM
Um, I can't think of "one of the most talented players" on said team that was cut. I really can't. Some very nice boys did not make it back though, unfortunately.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It has to be the Express Terps


What teams are practicing already?


Crush of course.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 06:37 PM
They all are crush dad!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 08:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They all are crush dad!!


But only one is the best team in the country, so I hope so for their sake.
But something tells me that not all of them are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/15/15 09:32 PM
That is def not a crush dad. Trolling
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/16/15 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Um, I can't think of "one of the most talented players" on said team that was cut. I really can't. Some very nice boys did not make it back though, unfortunately.


Deserving kids make team while others do not for reasons that are both fair and unfair. Politics, back room deals, etc. are rampant especially as we start getting close to the onset of the recruiting years. It is not, however, as simple as looking at the roster and deciding that the best kids must have made it. In some case that is true, in others the luckiest or most hooked up kids made it. You obviously choose to believe that everyone cut from whatever team your son is on were lesser players. We know that because your son is on the team and they are not. Therefore your son is one of the better player. If you ever find yourself in the unenviable position of suddenly having to scramble to find a new team for your son I suspect you will be back on here wailing about the injustice of it all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/16/15 01:35 PM
I empathize with your position. I would like to think when that day comes for me/my son, which I'm sure it will some day, we just move on and don't point fingers. I have not walked in your shoes though so I'll refrain from any further comment on it and just wish you and your son luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 08:30 PM
Where are the Crush 2020 playing this Fall?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 08:34 PM
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


what's the tournament name?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


Who cares
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 01:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


what's the tournament name?


Sweetlax invitational
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


what's the tournament name?


Sweetlax invitational

Played Sweetlax last year and got a little beat up. Really good team. Talked to a couple of the kids after the game, real nice kids. They could have really run up the score but didn't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 02:38 PM
thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm

Lol, you might want to re-visit your cystral ball on this one Oh disgruntled one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


what's the tournament name?


Manhasset Daddy Invitational
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/19/15 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
thanks fl$ dad, make sure you hit the fl$ fall line of clothing before you go. stay warm

Lol, you might want to re-visit your cystral ball on this one Oh disgruntled one.


Easy there Studlete.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/20/15 05:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Did this happen yet? If so, results please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/20/15 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


Who cares


The rest of us care -regardless of whether our team is going or not, it is nice to hear what other teams in the age group are doing and he results.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/20/15 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


Who cares


The rest of us care -regardless of whether our team is going or not, it is nice to hear what other teams in the age group are doing and he results.


Agreed. My son has friends on various teams and kids that had once played with his team, but no longer do. It is nice to hear about the LI teams that are successful playing in tournaments that we are not in. Hope to hear about all our teams. The kids are almost at recruiting years and we should be cheering on all our LI teams and athletes and drop the - "my team is better than yours" attitude.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/20/15 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Did this happen yet? If so, results please.


nov 1st I believe

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 12:59 PM
I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.


Their 2020 team is made up of mostly 15 year olds
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm surprised Edge is invited back after the roster antics they played last year at this tournament...unconscionable.


How old were the boys in question? Was it 15 year olds playing 13s
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 02:18 PM
that's funny no kid on our team is 15 years old..where are u getting this stuff from
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 02:46 PM
they are making it up, just in case they lose they have an excuse. Forgive us we are Lawn Guylanders. funniest thing I read this morning - "Manhasset Daddy Invitational".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
that's funny no kid on our team is 15 years old..where are u getting this stuff from


Exactly. He is 16 now
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 02:56 PM
Why doesn't lacrosse just do what hockey does? just go on Birth year and stop all this nonsense. June 1st 2001!?? they are 9th graders!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 03:15 PM
hockey goes strictly by birth year because birth year (not grade) denotes when they can be drafted
go to age limit tournaments and see how much college recruiting is happening -- the college coaches go to look at the best talent regardless of birth year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 03:32 PM
'19 you had '18's that you brought down b/c you wanted them to get the exposure and see CU and have the coaches see them. 3 kids. That is fact. you ran through the tournament and two kids were carted away as a result. The fact that your org is invited back is a shock to me. Your site advertised last year for the '20 team class of 19 and 20 's welcome. Am I wrong about any of this? If so, please correct me and I'll apologize, but I won't have to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 03:34 PM
"Manhasset Daddy Invitational"

Those Dad's are fun. I enjoy their company and NONE are over the top on the sidelines and this is from an arch-rival.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 06:09 PM
that's the 2019 team that reclassified. the 2020 team was put together for [lacrosse]'s Sporting Goods. Sweetlax doesn't have a 2019 division only 2020 and 2021.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 06:34 PM
The entire age issue is a disgrace in lacrosse, would love to see some people stand up for whats right and attack the issue. Coaches can not like things the way its put together and I know parents do not like it either
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The entire age issue is a disgrace in lacrosse, would love to see some people stand up for whats right and attack the issue. Coaches can not like things the way its put together and I know parents do not like it either


Some coaches like it and are even doing it with their own kids. Nice role model for the sport!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 07:13 PM
They did last year and that is what your organization did. Now you see my point right?
Looking forward to the event this year. New year. Hope all is above board...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/21/15 08:30 PM
See, there are kind people out there. Nice hearing something positive. Thank you!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Did this happen yet? If so, results please.


nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:05 AM
Edge how do you discount this. Your website states it clearly.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
'19 you had '18's that you brought down b/c you wanted them to get the exposure and see CU and have the coaches see them. 3 kids. That is fact. you ran through the tournament and two kids were carted away as a result. The fact that your org is invited back is a shock to me. Your site advertised last year for the '20 team class of 19 and 20 's welcome. Am I wrong about any of this? If so, please correct me and I'll apologize, but I won't have to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:34 AM
Knowing how Edge played it last year, why would Sweetlax and the other clubs put up with it again? As the saying goes: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Did this happen yet? If so, results please.


nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa


Is this the same Mesa that went 1-4 at NXT in July?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 03:10 AM
who cares about a BS fall tournament... let us know how it goes, or better yet don't let us know how it goes.. cause no one gives a &hit. Good night!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 10:38 AM
Heard that Crush got some size. About time
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who cares about a BS fall tournament... let us know how it goes, or better yet don't let us know how it goes.. cause no one gives a &hit. Good night!


Actually many care a lot! We all want to see where our teams fall. I want to see how my son matches up. Looking foread to it! Coaches will start watching as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Its called puberty. every kid is getting bigger. my sons team has 4 over 6 foot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:20 PM
You are right. Kerwick and his staff were out watching most of the afternoon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 12:55 PM


DELETED

Do NOT call out the players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
fl$ Sweetlax Edge Ontario FCA North-East and the Rock from Baltimore ?? are at Cornell U in two weeks in the 2020 division


what's the tournament name?


Manhasset Daddy Invitational
Does Express still have Daddy coaches?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 02:16 PM
Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?
If this needs to be explained to you then it can't be explained to you. Good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does your team have Mommy coaches? what is your point?


Probably that daddy coaches take care of their sons and friends.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 04:02 PM
Here we go with the Daddy coaches argument again. Its how I tell winter is coming, more predictable than the groundhog.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 06:23 PM
I would agree with that, not that it matters a hill of beans which of them is 4 vs. 7... they all have some very good players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 09:36 PM
I can honestly say Crush is still number 1 @ 2020. No long island team is even a close second.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:24 PM
From what I here Legacy will give Crush a run this year .
They are big and tough. fl$ will beat the Terps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:32 PM
Crush remains #1, Legacy may beat Terps but fl$ won't. It will be a closer game than last season, but fl$ not there yet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
From what I here Legacy will give Crush a run this year .
They are big and tough. fl$ will beat the Terps.


That's a bold prediction. Not likely, Legacy attack too weak, and middie addition a favor, nothing to brag about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard Express and Legacy are going down to Princeton to play
Sons, 91MD, and Hawks. Should be good day of lacrosse for the Fall.


Did this happen yet? If so, results please.


nov 1st I believe

Sons, Express, FCA, Legacy, Hawks, 91md, Mesa


Is this the same Mesa that went 1-4 at NXT in July?
Supposedly this is the real Mesa team not the Mesa Fever Fresh team. time will tell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 02:27 AM
fl$ will lose by 10+ to terps, no chance there. Terps too good. not sure of legacy, heard they got some 3V kids that can play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


...and yet the crush coach is championing age limits for youth lacrosse - #hypocrit
That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


...and yet the crush coach is championing age limits for youth lacrosse - #hypocrit
That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush added two players from 2019 team and an elite fogo as well as their core remaining intact so yes it's safe to say they are.
Question is at number 2 and 3


Age limits- yes- US Lacrosse age limits would make sense. LI is and will continue to be at a disadvantage if we keep calling kids holdbacks when all other teams start school at 9/1. Level the playing field and put a limit on grade base with age cut offs. Lacrosse has grown and in order for it to continue, we need to think outside our own home and more nationally. 9/1 or even 6/1 should be a cut off.

If a team plays 2020- all members should be graduating that year- period, but there should be a cut off that all regions must adhere to. If a 2020 team plays 2019, then the oldest players should be graduating 2019 with an age limit. Very simple.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .


Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .


Crabs will pick'em apart...eat them like a piece of bunker!~
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 03:33 PM
Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 03:46 PM
That is a great knowledge of that team. I guess you are paying attention crush dad. Lmfao!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?


This summer is when all the kids in MD will be repeating so the teams will miraculously get bigger better and faster. LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 03:53 PM
Come on who is writing this the kids that moved down or left were not good on that team there for the wrong reasons. Please tell yourself that was the reason. I judge a kid when they are away from their travel team..That's really when you see who is who not hiding behind the uniform. Lol.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 04:00 PM
Legacy would love to get a shot at crush terps and fl$ we won't back down or hide from anybody we are much improved and deeper at every position looking forward to great competition. now it's time to see what we got.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?


This summer is when all the kids in MD will be repeating so the teams will miraculously get bigger better and faster. LOL


it is not only MD, how about those boys upstate, they like to bend those rules too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 04:46 PM
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 05:54 PM
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Remember what happened in Denver? Who beat your team by 12 goals on National TV?


you got lucky, pure luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma


Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma


Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.


plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/24/15 01:05 AM
Whose going to Florida for [lacrosse]'s this year? FCA 2020 will be there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/24/15 01:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma


Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.


plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets


You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/24/15 02:43 AM
I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most.

that's funny right there, I don't care who ya are
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most.

that's funny right there, I don't care who ya are


I would agree that an ethics class may be in order here for some club directors and coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .


Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.


How did they add two 2019s? Did these kids hold back?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma


Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.


plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets


You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?


Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U13: Born between 6/1/2001 and 9/30/2003 this is what edge 2020 used to determine their team which qualified for Dicks and were invited to the World Series of lacrosse. How can they accused of breaking rules that were given to them. So if our team looks older at Sweetlax and the NYPLL Autumn Classic remember this thread.


Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma


Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else.


plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets


You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket?


Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother.


are you sure the teams didnt have ANYTHING to do with the dates. Just like US lacrosse wont define levels by DOB because some within US lacrosse MAY have family or friends which benefits its loose interpretation..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard that Crush got some size. About time


Is it true that more than a few Crush boys moved down to Orange? Heard 4.
Due to size or playing time. I doubt skill, any boy on that team had good skills.
And a few left, that's big for a team that was virtually unchanged for a few years.


That would mean Orange is going to be much improved. With the demise of Viper, probably means fl$, Orange, Express 2 and Igloo will be fighting for that 4th spot behind Crush, Terps and Legacy


With the big turnover at Crush, can anyone honestly say they are still number 1 - up to a third of the team changed. New clubs are in the mix. I don think it's safe to anoint any team a ranking just yet. At this stage its all speculation.


Crush still number 1 on Long Island/Westchester and probably nationally by a 10+ goal margin. By position they arguably have some of the best players in the country. My one son is a 2020 and I have 2 older sons playing at mid major D1 schools, since I have watched the sport I have never watched a more skilled and talented lefty attackman, the kid is special at the age, and the Crush midfield is always lights out . My understanding is they also added a few top kids, and the defense is much improved . I'm not necessarily a fan of the way they play the game, a little flashy for my taste, but in my opinion they will continue at number 1 by a wide margin, and their overall skill and talent will allow them to stay on top, with other teams slightly closing the gap in the next couple of years .


Completely agree - like them or not, you cannot argue with the level of play and talent on that team has on the field. I'm sure that the turnover was not the starting line, and they will only continue to get better. As someone mentioned previously, the only thing they were lacking was significant size.


There is one other thing they lack.....class
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 05:44 PM
Well, if you are anything like the crabs, you have two versions of the team. One is used when age is restricted, the other is a free for all. I think Long Island is one of the few places where ethics are still important to most. That is why it is particularly upsetting to see some coaches taking the easy way out an reclassing their own kids! Too bad it won't help. Karma[/quote]

Rules is rules! Can't cry about the "loosened" age bracket when everyone is subject to the same restriction - no one received any special treatment over anyone else. [/quote]

plus these are grade based tournaments, not U brackets [/quote]

You mean the cheating (because you are not good enough to compete at your own aga) bracket? [/quote]

Call them what you want - bottom line is, the teams didn't set the tourney rules. There is no argument you can come up to refute that, so please don't bother. [/quote]

are you sure the teams didnt have ANYTHING to do with the dates. Just like US lacrosse wont define levels by DOB because some within US lacrosse MAY have family or friends which benefits its loose interpretation..[/quote]

Everything is subject to influence, I suppose - that's in every aspect of life, can't avoid it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 06:56 PM
There is one other thing they lack.....class [/quote]


And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself. [/quote]

Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 08:06 PM
I think [lacrosse]'s is a wast of time and money. Not worth the time or money. My opinion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.[/quote]

No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.


[/quote]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 11:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.


[/quote]

Any win will never mean much when you do it by cheating. Play fair and earn respect the right way!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them![/quote] Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


No one said they didn't earn their wins. Some people look at a 30-0 win as a tribute to talent and hard work. Others look at a 30-0 win where starters were in most of the game as a classless, unsportsmanlike travesty that should never happen in youth sports.

From what I've heard, it could have been 50-0, who are you to decide. They play clean and with great skill. You should let your son watch to see what he can also achieve.




Any win will never mean much when you do it by cheating. Play fair and earn respect the right way! [/quote]

Now you are just making stuff up. Too funny. Try again in a few days. But in the meantime write "I will not make stuff up about kids" 100 times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!
Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote]

Mother Theresa of the lax.... You and your kids and staff should have been front and center with the Pope! I hear Francis plays Middie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!
Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.


Mother Theresa of the lax.... You and your kids and staff should have been front and center with the Pope! I hear Francis plays Middie. [/quote]

All this banter means nothing. Crabs 16 year old 2020 players will eat up all of Long Island!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 04:08 PM
If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.



quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them![/quote] Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 07:15 PM
Yep not up to par. Yeah kids are so good because of coach. Give me Oneil and watch how good of a coach I become. We would rarely ever lose a game with Oneil playing attack. Lacrosse is the only sport where you flipping crazies want want to let the coach take all the credit. All these top programs taking credit for kids going D1. Joke. You got D1 kids in your program. I'll give you credit for good branding and recruiting. You think js made oneil, danenza, schwirtzer? Teach them lessons. What lessons. Freaking crazy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.



quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!
Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old. [/quote] [/quote]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 08:02 PM
Using names now??? JS is an unbelievable coach with the best players in the entire country. Crush has proved through this past tryouts that they are now adding depth. They are the best team that just got better...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yep not up to par. Yeah kids are so good because of coach. Give me Oneil and watch how good of a coach I become. We would rarely ever lose a game with Oneil playing attack. Lacrosse is the only sport where you flipping crazies want want to let the coach take all the credit. All these top programs taking credit for kids going D1. Joke. You got D1 kids in your program. I'll give you credit for good branding and recruiting. You think js made oneil, danenza, schwirtzer? Teach them lessons. What lessons. Freaking crazy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If that is the case, you should prepared your boys for it. If your boys can't comprehend, then are your boys really ready to play at that level? I'm not a crush parent;however, if you prepare properly you should be able to handle. Or maybe, your coaching skills aren't up to par.....

I've said it many times, you lacrosse people(parents) are quite the p%##y's. If you can't beat them, just complain.



quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is one other thing they lack.....class



And what you lack is Balls. The kids work harder and longer and earn their wins. Then you come on here and say that. You should be ashamed of yourself.


Really? Longer and hatder? That is the most rediculus thing I have heard yet! The only ones lacking balls are the ones playing down cause they are not good enough to play in their own age group. So sad their parents didn't believe in them!
Play your team then. Stop this [lacrosse] with playing 5 mids and 3 attack and 4 poles when the scores are double digits early. Let the other kids play. All ego on the coaches part. I coach and my kid will pull himself out early and ask coaches to put in other kids. Tells me to let the 7,8,9 mids play attack. Thats class. Its not the MLL. Knock it off. You can shorten the bench in tight games but cmon Crush. Don't ever [lacrosse] about Crabs, ever. Your antics are just as bad. Our team tells other teams to bring older kids in to make games more competitive. And you play a flipping zone, not some of the time, ALL the time. Zone since they were 10 years old.
[/quote] [/quote]

Are you a parent of a player that is upset? The parents know exactly what they are getting. Its out there in the open so please take the nonsense somewhere else. The fact the kids can play a zone at their age is a testament to the quality coaching and training. In regard to a name being used its in a good light and no one is attacking the player so we as moderators let it go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/26/15 09:43 PM
Wow. Have not been on here in a long time. Would love it if you people would put your name along with your issues. You all hide your complaints behind the Anonymous. Crush does this, Crush does that, Crabs are *#%^^$#. It is hilarious. Parents of boys this age? You should be busy. No?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. Have not been on here in a long time. Would love it if you people would put your name along with your issues. You all hide your complaints behind the Anonymous. Crush does this, Crush does that, Crabs are *#%^^$#. It is hilarious. Parents of boys this age? You should be busy. No?


What's your name?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think [lacrosse]'s is a wast of time and money. Not worth the time or money. My opinion.


Total waste, generally no competition for hotbed teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 03:31 PM
If you are going to Florida, there are so many better things to do than play lacrosse. Agree on the waste of time and money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 04:10 PM
Plus trips w 3d and the NLF Prospect showcases for this age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 05:03 PM
Please just tell me you will watch this closely. Many names or the "illusion" of names have been on display here "in good light" then before you know it.. it has gone over the line.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 06:54 PM
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.



The kids on that team are very nice kids, with great work ethic. Not only are the players very skilled, but there are many top academic students on the team as well. I am not sure why you think any of them would be better off somewhere else. They will all go on to play HS ball- most, with good lax schools. They will attend recruiting camps, showcases with the team and prospect camps as individuals and will have some very good coaches working on their behalf. They will be just fine, as will many of the other very good players on A and B teams through out the island. I wish the best to all the boys that represent our island. I just wish others would as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.


how much scholarship money is handed to an incoming freshman lacrosse player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/28/15 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


have you seen how many of the teams have been doing it over the years, Developing? They recruit better players.



The kids on that team are very nice kids, with great work ethic. Not only are the players very skilled, but there are many top academic students on the team as well. I am not sure why you think any of them would be better off somewhere else. They will all go on to play HS ball- most, with good lax schools. They will attend recruiting camps, showcases with the team and prospect camps as individuals and will have some very good coaches working on their behalf. They will be just fine, as will many of the other very good players on A and B teams through out the island. I wish the best to all the boys that represent our island. I just wish others would as well.


Well said.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 12:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Karma will come back to bite the Crush. The fact that the coach/program are only focused on 5 kids will doom them soon. Those kids are very good, but they clearly have no regard for developing all the kids on the team.


Well I guess we will know in about a year when the commitments start coming out. In the meantime they will keep beating all of the 2020 teams and most of the 2019 teams.


how much scholarship money is handed to an incoming freshman lacrosse player?


It's not all about scholarships (that don't really exist) - I think anyone who is paying attention knows that. Anyway, the OP was making it sound like the rest of the team would be left behind at the expense of the core kids. I would imagine that any kid who is good enough to make the team would be a top player on any other team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:04 AM
Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:50 AM
With the exception of a couple kids, the Crush team isn't that big. They are going to be passed soon by other teams with bigger, faster, better athletes. Only the ones on Crush that the Coach cares about are going to get pub/success.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.


so they dominate all 2020 teams and most 2019 teams all because of one player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 03:27 AM
Jealousy is entertaining . Spend the time you use here with your boy and watch the improvement. Guess money can't buy everything huh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 09:08 AM
They do not "dominate most 2019 teams". If they play any good 2019 teams this year, that will be a bad idea.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 10:09 AM
2020 is a weak year . Didn't say the team didn't have very good even above average players , I said they have one top d1 recruit. Yes one. And yes a team can dominate games when one player can score 6 and is unstoppable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 is a weak year . Didn't say the team didn't have very good even above average players , I said they have one top d1 recruit. Yes one. And yes a team can dominate games when one player can score 6 and is unstoppable.



Time will tell and it will tell soon. Now get off work early today and have a catch with your son
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 12:41 PM
Enjoy that new 2019 kid that just stepped down a year...
(re-classed).
that should be fun.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:02 PM
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enjoy that new 2019 kid that just stepped down a year...
(re-classed).
that should be fun.



Yes, and he did so without even reclassing! wth??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Unfortunately he's not a standout anymore...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 01:27 PM
Not a Crush lover or hater actually think it's great for 2020 class how they've helped raise the bar for our boys. But very odd how much info you have on a group personal feeling is they are fun to watch and play team lacrosse which is a nice thing to show kids that it can be done
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.


Somebody sounds real jealous, lol!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 03:58 PM
Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.


people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truth is there's probobly only 1 serious recruit on Crush. They are a very well trained team that plays well together. No one outstanding except for that one kid I'm sure we all know who.


A highly competitive, highly skilled team that plays very well together and dominates its competition will only yield 1 recruit? Seriously? Every college coach is trying to create a highly competitive, highly skilled team that plays very well together and dominates its competition. I say this as a Maryland resident.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 05:30 PM
One thing is certain these message boards are the only place people get the better of Crush. Otherwise not so much especially on LI. Having competed against these boys for many years it is a phenomenal group of athletes and lacrosse players. What is percieved as top 10 2020 rankings After Crush
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.


More like 10-12
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 05:47 PM
Sorry , 12 D1 kids ain't to shabby.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.


people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent


they're the best, no doubt about it, but not deep and strange culture
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles also use their whole team, shorten the bench occasionally but for the most part they all play unselfish lacrosse. Comes from their Head Coach. Its why 20 or so of them have committed to D1 schools.



Exactly. They play everyone and share the ball. It is not about 5 guys.

Unlike some teams and coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry , 12 D1 kids ain't to shabby.


Agree, Crush will have more!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.


You people are insane. I don't even live in LI, but from the MD area I'll tell you that the 2020 Crush team is special - getting a group of 13 year olds to play with that discipline (always in a zone D, always moving, always looking, unselfish, making the key passes in the right place at the right time, etc.) is near impossible, and finding a field full of kids who can do it is even harder. Give them credit where it is due - they lack size, but they are very skilled athletes. Which poster on here has a kid on a team that beat Crush this past year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 09:32 PM
I'm a Crush admirer, but the zone surprised me when I watched it on ESPN. I know most college coaches don't want to watch that. Seemed to me like a way to rest your middies.

Anyway, I'm a 2021 coach and I can think of no teams to watch than 91 Extreme (3 years ago) and 91 Crush (past year) for their great passing skills and as examples of how good 13-year olds can play (maybe Turtles too). Just incredible. Particularly for a smallish team like mine, trying to learn that same kind of unselfish quick passing and excellent shooting is a great goal. They also appear to me to show the importance of indoor play, but I'm just guessing there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 09:35 PM
Really? Crush is filled with the top players at every position. Their attack is outstanding! Their middies are just as good, their defense is incredible. You gotta be kidding me!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 10:12 PM
Yes but does not like to be hit. Going to take a beating this year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/29/15 11:48 PM
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 12:51 AM
I think it is time to move on. Hate crush, love crush, who cares?! Enjoy the season on whatever team your kid is on and stop focusing on just one team. There are plenty of other teams at this age and all this obsession with one team takes credit away from others. They are the top LI has right now. In a year or two, maybe not- but who cares? It's a game and it all just changed. This isn't about winning games. It's about being competitive in the top brackets so you can showcase what you have. Time to stop the stupid banter and start focusing on future possibilities for our kids. The best place to start- their academics- that'll make or break many.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 12:52 AM
I help run my son's middle school program. Our high school coach requests that we not run zone because he feels it is bad for the development of our defensemen. Obviously everyone runs zone on man down but is the belief that running zone at lower levels is bad for the kids common? Zones seem to be very effective particularly if you have a good goalie and/or are outmatched athletically.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.


Haha, not a chance!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 01:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You don't know what you are talking about in terms of the talent and athletes on Crush. They have one of the best athletes anywhere on their midfield and he is not small and does not face off... And I am not a crush dad...


Yes. But most of that team is small and not particularly athletic. They will be bypassed by other teams. The Turtles did not see teams catch up with them until this past year. Why? Because in addition to have great skills and lax IQ, many of those kids are great athletes.

This Crush team is nowhere near that special.


people have been saying since 3rd grade Crush will be by passed next year, still waiting.....and waiting ...and waiting.........wait, no, still waiting.... hopefully this was written by a Jealous kid otherwise pathetic but have a feeling more like a jealous parent


they're the best, no doubt about it, but not deep and strange culture


What is their strange culture??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:22 AM
Fall tournaments?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 09:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 01:54 PM

Question: Are 8th graders ever invited to College prospect days? If so, is there a process for requesting consideration for an invitation?

Thanks,
2020 Dad
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Are 8th graders ever invited to College prospect days? If so, is there a process for requesting consideration for an invitation?

Thanks,
2020 Dad


I don't think so - they are normally reserved for rising sophomores, juniors, and seniors. I don't know of any that allow 8th graders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.


Bahaaaaaaaaa...Not quite
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.


You sound like a scorned parent with a chip on his shoulder. Bottom line is, regardless of what you think or say, those boys will be recruited and receive offers - guaranteed. There is no question whatsoever that some of them will begin getting offers this year - if you believe otherwise, you have your head in the sand.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.


You're arguing who "would have" beaten who, and it will never happen or be able to be proven. Who's the real idiot?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.


Why, because you said so? They tried to play up at this age (9th) and lost early on at US lax u15. They still have several small players, fact! Not saying they are not a very skilled bunch but no more so than Crush. Do you have game stats to back up your claims? Were Turtles beating teams at same margin? Just not sure what you're basing your statement on. Oh, and Turtles stuggled to win tournaments last summer, maybe a sign of what's to come of Crush in a few years? Both teams have enjoyed a run as "top team in country " but all good things eventually come to an end.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.
I can't defend the coaches behavior and how he things not playing his bench at 13 years old is "teaching life lessons" but in terms of 2020 year being weak, I'm not buying it. Crush beats most 2019 teams. Not a few, most top level 2019 teams lose to crush. There are also other top 2020 teams that play up and win which should never happen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:30 PM
If you are paying and get the recommendation, they will allow it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Playing the zone is a joke. Terrible for their development and not what recruiters want to see.

The coach's behavior at the ESPN tournament said volumes. Was more concerned with running up the score on national TV and showcasing a certain attackman than he was in playing guys whose families paid good money to fly to CO.

Classless. And please don't compare them to the Turtles. Turtles when they were U13 would have beaten Crush by at least 7 goals.



I agree. I have an older son too , where I've seen the Turtles play and IMHO Turtles would win that game easily. I also have a 2020 and agree it is a weak year .


That is a rediculus thing to say. I have an older son as well and have watched the Turtles plenty. They were very small at this age, smaller than Crush. Many of those boys are still small 5'6" and have been recruited to schools such as Cornell. Both teams have some real stand out players but Crush I believe may have the edge . Turtles did not havery as strong a record of quality wins. It is a silly thing to try to predict who would win. We can agree both teams are special.


You are an idiot. Turtles overall were much bigger, more skilled, more athletic and definitely had greater depth. They would beat Crush in a rout at the same age.


Turtles had more holdbacks - they were an innovator with the older kids playing against younger kids thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 05:31 PM
Turtles beat several excellent 2016 teams along the way. Crush played a very good - but not great - Sweetlax 2019 team and lost convincingly.

You Crush lovers who don't agree obviously never saw the Turtles play back then.

Keep crowing about your meaningless Denver championship. Nobody cares who wins MS tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles beat several excellent 2016 teams along the way. Crush played a very good - but not great - Sweetlax 2019 team and lost convincingly.

You Crush lovers who don't agree obviously never saw the Turtles play back then.

Keep crowing about your meaningless Denver championship. Nobody cares who wins MS tournaments.


Turtles were beat cleanly by express 2016 and FCA. Just a couple I saw. What "Excellent "2016 teams did they beat? They are not even able to beat the top teams in their age group anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 06:57 PM
Which top 2019 teams has Crush beaten ? In the past year ? They will have some very competitive games this year vs 2020's. On LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:03 PM
You are all F------ Crazy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:19 PM
Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.


Blah Blah.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:34 PM
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:44 PM
the only thing worse than reading this crap is listening to you idiots on the sidelines talking about kids like they are free agents in MLB or the NFL .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy and Terps going to give the Crush a run this year? No one else is even close.


No, they're still the best and their best players don't come off the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 07:49 PM
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 08:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.


The Turtles were a great team. This Crush team is just a good one built around 3-6 players. They will get surpassed pretty soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/30/15 10:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.

U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.


And breakers beat FCA twice...and FCA has never beat Crabs but that was not the discussion. Looneys and Crabs will not beat Crush this year. If they even come close it is only due to the large number of holdbacks involved especially on Crabs 2020. Play with Denver qualifiers only and most AA 2020s would beat Crabs and Looneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crabs 2020 and Looney's 2020 will beat Crush this summer. No doubt. There will be others. Lack of size and athleticism will be obvious in the summer as there is a big change from 7th to 8th.


Don't you mean there's a big change with all the holdbacks on those teams?

As for the crush kids not being athletes- where does that come from? Half those kids play another high level sport besides lax. Starters on school or rec teams and/or team members of travel baseball, basketball, hockey, and football. Making things up doesn't make it true. Please stop the nonsense. Ignorance is a bad trait to flaunt publicly.


Ignorance and jealousy. Was your son cut? This is definitely one thing Crush has in common with Turtles. Haters and nay sayers.


The Turtles were a great team. This Crush team is just a good one built around 3-6 players. They will get surpassed pretty soon.


LIke what happened to the Turtles this year?? Your argument is pathetic and you just disproved your own point!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 01:14 AM
[/quote]
U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period. [/quote]

FCA beat Looney in league play, FCA wouldn't have a chance if Looney had their FOGO.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 01:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 01:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:13 AM
Crush was invited to play Terps Classic 2019 this November if they aren't so good the college coaches disagree as that is a highly regarded event
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.


Don't forget that those 2019's were most likely already 2018 holdbacks... MD, PA and Mass teams don't get better. They just get older and older. My son is College sophomore at age 19. In MD, PA or Mass he'd be a HS Senior or Junior. His sophomore roommate just turned 21, I kid you not!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

I was there for looneys loss. If 91 didn't do all their tricks shots it would have been 10-1 at half
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 03:05 AM
Where are 2020 teams headed this fall
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush was invited to play Terps Classic 2019 this November if they aren't so good the college coaches disagree as that is a highly regarded event


Good luck with that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.


Those were kids that already reclassed. They were just too old for Denver. But they are 2020s. Whether you like it or not, they lost. I know it is super hard for some to swallow, but it happened. I also think Looney's are close too. Not sure why some people on LI are so defensive about it, I would think they would like right games it will only make everyone better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:37 AM
Fca? Come on man! Win a tourney first then you can talk
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.

I was there for looneys loss. If 91 didn't do all their tricks shots it would have been 10-1 at half


That's a pretty funny statement. What does that mean? If they didn't play their game? Give me a break- Looneys couldn't beat them so 91 must have used their tricks? News flash... Shooting behind the back is not considered a trick. Passing behind the back is not considered a trick. It's a part of the game and a more advanced skill set that these kids mastered early on. They did not trick the Looneys to steal the game, the Looneys just didn't know when to expect certain moves leaving them at a disadvantage. That said, Looneys- crabs etc are good teams but the constant bashing and trying to reason away why 91 beat you as if they are playing unfairly is ridiculous.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 10:50 AM
Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL!!! No 2020 will come in striking distance of Crush this year. Crush has gotten much bigger and even more skilled than they used to be. Now for the 2019s, Crush has beaten many top teams


LOL, have you forgotten about the loss to crabs? And they only beat Looney's by 1. There should be lots of great games this year!


Did you forget they played 5/6 of their 2019 kids for that game? If these kids are now 2020- then we will see competitive games, but really- a 1 goal diff in OT playing your 2019 kids? That's the best they could do? The real 2020 Crabs were at Denver on ESPN.


Those were kids that already reclassed. They were just too old for Denver. But they are 2020s. Whether you like it or not, they lost. I know it is super hard for some to swallow, but it happened. I also think Looney's are close too. Not sure why some people on LI are so defensive about it, I would think they would like right games it will only make everyone better


Those kids had not officially reclassed yet -they had just finished 8th grade at a private school while the remainder of kids in Maryland were still attending school. They had not started 8th or 9th grade in the fall yet, were still on the rosters for 2019 Crabs And played with the 2019 for other tourneys the weeks after beach lax. Stop kidding yourself - everyone knows how Crabs operates and frankly the rest of the 2020s don't consider you a valid team due to your ways. Happy to play you but most have no respect for any of your wins. You lost bad when you played with an age appropriate team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.


Looneys doesn't have tons of hold backs or any double hold backs. 3 kids with summer 01 bdays. Your team is fantastic and clearly the best 2020. There's no reason to make things up just because there was a close game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 01:13 PM
Crush dads are weird. Those kids had reclassed and it doesn't matter if you like the practice or not. Both Crabs and Looneys will be even stronger this fall.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[/quote]
U have to be kidding. Crabs and looneys. Fca 2020 is the best Baltimore. We beat looneys twice-Crush is the best period.


FCA beat Looney in league play, FCA wouldn't have a chance if Looney had their FOGO. [/quote]

...if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:29 PM
New year, new talent on teams in Baltimore.... going to be fun to watch. All teams seem to have upgraded. FCA & Looney's for sure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 02:57 PM
Which 2020 Team 91 Maryland team is better (Force or Platinum)? How do they compare to the other 2020 Maryland teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which 2020 Team 91 Maryland team is better (Force or Platinum)? How do they compare to the other 2020 Maryland teams?


Force was Breakers AA and Platinum was Breakers A. Same coaches and core of players. Breakers AA was very good but maybe a notch below Crabs, Looneys, FCA. Although they beat FCA for Koopers league championship. Breakers A was very good at that level. As T91 they are touting themselves as AA. Would assume both teams added some good players but it seems all teams have. Should be fun to watch these kids play each other in MD and then play the best from NY, PA and elsewhere. Hopefully parents and coaches keep all in perspective.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 04:06 PM
force is their better team. May the force be with them because they are going to need it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 04:16 PM
People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 05:24 PM
Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 05:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.


Anyone who says 2020 isn't a strong year is wrong. There's no difference year-to-year, all the great 2019 teams beat the 2020 teams, all the great 2020 teams beat up on the 2021 teams, etc. Dumb discussion topic. Crush is best, but gap closing and they only play a few kids, but their starters are the best, no doubt. Then there's 5 or 6 teams that can really play but can't beat the Crush.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 05:47 PM
Edge Ontario are playing Sweetlax Fall 2020 Oct 4 Rumble in Richmond Oct 31-Nov 1 2019 Adrenaline Platinum Leesburg Va. Nov 13 2019 and NYPLL Autumn Classic Nov 14 2020 looking forward to playing Looney's again. Hopefully the Crabs won't put us in the same preliminary group again. Wherever you are headed we hope you have a great season!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.


Why not? It's a weak year because you said so? You still have failed to give any specific examples to back up your claims. Turtles stopped playing up at this year because they were losing!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Having seen several of these 2020 teams, it is definitely a down year. Not a lot of great teams and players compared to older grades at the same age.

Crush is a good team, but don't belong in the conversation with the Turtles.


It definitely wasn't the OP who put them into the same conversation with the Turtles, someone just randomly said "they are nowhere near the Turtles at that age" - completely irrelevant, and useless to argue about in this forum or context. The initial point was that Crush is the best current 2020 team, and since Turtles isn't, it simply doesn't matter. If 2020 is a down year - and maybe it is in LI (I doubt it though), but it definitely isn't in other regions like MD - that should be even more evidence that supports the argument that Crush is the top 2020 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?


It sure ain't Looneys - they need to get in line!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People can say whatever they like "the looneys will beat the Chesapeake Bay Hawks " bottom line in my book it is Crush and about six to eight teams in the next tier. The discussion should be who's after Crush?


How many of these 9 or so teams can beat or gove the 2019 team a good game. Seen Crush play LAxachusettes and although crush lost, they gave them a good game (regardless of the ages on the Laxachuesttes team).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:19 PM
DID we forget the VAIL ?? Looney over FCA??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:25 PM
Looney's had 3 players out in the early spring..then team learned the system..they are very good and fun to watch..
Cant wait to see new 2020 teams match up.
Overall, 2020's are loaded with talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 06:32 PM
I've said the same thing in a past post. I don't mean to insult the kids but there's not as much talent as older grades.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep on saying that to yourself Crabs dad. Crush proved that they were the best last year by dominating the Crabs on TV and they got even better this year. The Looneys had tons of holdbacks and doubleholdbacks on that team. Crush will continue to dominate as they always have.


Looneys doesn't have tons of hold backs or any double hold backs. 3 kids with summer 01 bdays. Your team is fantastic and clearly the best 2020. There's no reason to make things up just because there was a close game
Summer 01 birthdays, guess that makes it ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 07:31 PM
No, didn't forget. The FCA team that Looneys beat was not the MD club FCA team. players from all over the country on that team that never played together before that weekend. FCA MD club upgraded in several positions this year and should be a good test for Looneys and others. I agree that Crush is still the top team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 07:43 PM
2020 is a deep class. Quit acting like children and enjoy this. Crush is #1 until someone knocks them off. All other teams mentioned are very good teams too. Enjoy this time!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 08:36 PM
My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 08:41 PM
CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 08:57 PM
So what! We have July 2002 on our 2020 team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 08:59 PM
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:00 PM
There are some Great 2020 teams outside of Crush. Looney's, Crabs,Express, Legacy, Sons, Laxachusettes can all compete
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2020 is a deep class. Quit acting like children and enjoy this. Crush is #1 until someone knocks them off. All other teams mentioned are very good teams too. Enjoy this time!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.


Yes, and everyone knows it. Let them play whatever year they pick as most convenient because the rest of the community just discounts their performance for what it is.-bigger, stronger, older. Holdbacks have destroyed that team for any true on age kids that might be left.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 09:56 PM
Watch out for 3D Nova Scotia this fall. They upgraded in many positions and stole the top players from Haitian Express. Will give Crush a run for their money this year. Mark my word.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watch out for 3D Nova Scotia this fall. They upgraded in many positions and stole the top players from Haitian Express. Will give Crush a run for their money this year. Mark my word.


My money is on Team 91 Arkansas
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 10:26 PM
July 02 is what your supposed to have in 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/01/15 10:55 PM
Should be interesting, half of the 2016 Crabs team that competed well against Turtles are now on the 2020 Crabs!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 12:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!


I know a few superb 2019 defensemen with the end of Sept 2001 DOB on Li who could turn the 2020 world upside down if they "reclassed". Instead I am sure they will continue to challenge themselves at 2019 and if they want to play lax in college and get the opportunity at 2020 in a few years... I am sure they will take it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 12:26 AM
So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 01:40 AM
Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CRABS ARE FULL OF HOLDBACKS. 2020 is going to have at least 7 or 8 players that have been held back at least 1 or 2 years. Complete joke.


Two kids on 2019 last year are on 2020 this year. That might be a record low number for BLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?


Good luck with Edge. They play by their own rules and the tournament organizers will not stand up to them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 10:29 AM
Still talking about that? Those kids got beat up should not have been out there. As for age, not one college coach cares how old you are- just grades and 4 years of playing time. JS incited the whole thing when he f-bombed those kids when they were jockeying for the cage without the sun.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Edge Canada website says 2020s are 2002 born. Then they have 2 2019 teams, 2001 born and 2000 born. What team is actually playing 2020 in the states this year?


Good luck with Edge. They play by their own rules and the tournament organizers will not stand up to them.


As a gambling man I would think the 2001 team. Wink wink.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 12:51 PM
A group of 2019 dads may take some boys born after 5/1/2001 mixed in with some top 2020 players and play some 2020 tournaments to see if the reclass really is a deal breaker. From there they will decide if they will reclass or not. the name of the team will be... Potent IAL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!


Yeah, and.....? That's where he is supposed to be, what's the point ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Well said! We will keep crying while you keep cheating. Until your game of smoke and mirrors runs out. When it all evens out you will be the one crying while your "superstar" rides the bench
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 01:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My kid born in may 01 and is a 2019!!!


Yeah, and.....? That's where he is supposed to be, what's the point ?


Um, I think that was his point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 02:04 PM
we need to play down we are only in the process of learning the outdoor game. Our team are all 2001's
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 02:10 PM
Go read the rules for the Adrenaline Fall Classic there is an actual rider for "out of country teams"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
we need to play down we are only in the process of learning the outdoor game. Our team are all 2001's


Meaning the EDGE 2020 team playing at Cornell this week? Our 2020 boys born in 2002 are also still learning the game. Is that the excuse du jour?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 03:15 PM
Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 03:39 PM
Exactly. They said they have a few summer 2001 kids playing 2020. That's my point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 03:41 PM
It's cheating !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's cheating !


You're an idiot, and completely clueless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.


91 Crush recieved 10 invites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 04:42 PM
any top 2020 teams have a few kids with older birthdates. Some also have holdbacks. it is a fact. Not just in MD but in NY, PA, NJ, MASS., EVERYWHERE! You are a complete fool if you think the top 2020 teams dont have a few older kids. It is everywhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.


91 Crush recieved 10 invites.


They got 5, so did express
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...


Not totally accurate. Per the reference to Adrenaline rules above - which I checked - at least one tournament organizers lets Canadian kids with earlier graduation dates play in 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...
15 year olds playing 13 year olds, but wait, there are graduating 2020 so you are right, it is irrelevant.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:02 PM
crush recieved 8 invites
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


Girls are done growing by 14, while some boys are just starting at that age, so it's the same type of maturity issue. Not even close. Nice try!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
crush recieved 8 invites

6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do the posts constantly pop up combining age/birth dates and grade? We'll say it for the 10,000th time - it doesn't matter if your kid was born in May and is a 2019, or end of Sept and is a 2019 but a reclass could make him a superstar at 2020. It is the GRADUATING YEAR OF YOUR PLAYER THAT MATTERS - that's it!! Age is not a factor unless it is a U based or age based league or tourney - period. What people choose to do as far as reclassifying is their own choice - I think it's idiotic, but to each his own. Bottom line is, grade based is just that - please don't argue birth dates in grade based discussions - it's irrelevant...
15 year olds playing 13 year olds, but wait, there are graduating 2020 so you are right, it is irrelevant.


Yes, it is irrelevant. you can complain and whine about it constantly, but at the end of the day, grade is grade. That is why it is irrelevant - why can you not see how ridiculous the argument is? You're discussing two different topics - age is one measuring stick, reserved for U based (and apparently international - which is done because Canada apparently includes a PG year in their "norm" so Edge plays everyone down all the time, but who cares about them anyway), and grade based is grade based - it is what it is. Why cry about it??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:34 PM
Do you guys view kids in NY born Sept-Dec 2001 who started school later than their peers differently than MD/PA kids who were born June-July 2001 that started late?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 07:49 PM
Looney's, FCA and Crabs 2020 are going to smash Crush this fall. As in "green Hulk hands smash".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looney's, FCA and Crabs 2020 are going to smash Crush this fall. As in "green Hulk hands smash".


That'd be really embarrassing for the holdbacks if they can't or possibly can only win in a one goal OT game. Might possibly want to reclass again to 2021 just in case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
crush recieved 8 invites

6


Crabs received 37 invites and holdbacks are being shuttled there on a private jet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
crush recieved 8 invites

6


Crabs received 37 invites and holdbacks are being shuttled there on a private jet.


5, from the man. Heard there was a little whining about it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/02/15 11:42 PM
Hawks play the game better than the 3 above mentioned. Looneys Same old no O but decent team D. Fca added a few good attackman. Crabs still gets the best in the grade base system.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.


Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 12:13 AM
Hawks are pathetic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 12:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.


Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.


Let the cheating holdbacks enjoy it now. After spending all the money to artificially make their kids look good for a couple years, reality will set in as others catch up. Most will eventually just be known as the cheater who was not good enough to compete at their proper age group. Sad that a parent would do that to their kid, actually bizzare!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 05:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by America's Game
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


There is no hitting in girls lacrosse so I think the physicality of the boys game makes for a greater argument as to having the kids play by age of year born not graduation year. I would love to see my son play against himself a full year and a half younger. It would make a world of difference. In the less than a year when puberty kicked in he grew 6 inches in height and put on 15-20lbs.


Man I'd love that too. My son is the youngest on his AA team, and as a true grad year. It would be an incredible sight to see him play his younger self.


Let the cheating holdbacks enjoy it now. After spending all the money to artificially make their kids look good for a couple years, reality will set in as others catch up. Most will eventually just be known as the cheater who was not good enough to compete at their proper age group. Sad that a parent would do that to their kid, actually bizzare!


No, they will refer to those kids as ones who are playing college lax. It might make you mad, but that is the reality.

Keep crying, Long Island!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 10:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hawks play the game better than the 3 above mentioned. Looneys Same old no O but decent team D. Fca added a few good attackman. Crabs still gets the best in the grade base system.


How did Hawks do against crabs, looneys and fca this past tournament season?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 11:11 AM
You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island. Keeo crying.


Not playing age-based sports below the high school years makes no sense. College coaches don't care how old a kid is and I'm sure they promote reclassing/holding back, whatever the eff you want to call it. Fact is, older kids dominate younger kids, it's why 2019 teams beat all the 2020 teams, why 2020 teams beat 2021 teams, etc. It's why most of the best kids on the field are typically the oldest kids. For some reason, Baltimorans/Marylanders seem to think their kids are better and take glory in beating the Crush by using older players. It's unethical and despicable behavior, and the parents should be ashamed. But they aren't and they continue to promote that behavior. I wouldn't call it complaining/crying, we're just calling you out. Go to an age based system and there would be no arguing/debating. This debate doesn't happen at all in girls sports, simply low self esteem dad's trying to get their sons an unfair advantage. Crabs are worst offenders.


Girls lacrosse has been class-based for years. No crying there. I guess their parents aren't wimps.


No, quite the contrary logic, parents don't cheat for their daughters, don't hold them back because it's not that embarrassing when your daughter isn't a great athlete but your son must be right guy? Play him against kids his own age and he becomes just average or below average and you can't handle that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/03/15 03:12 PM
Ironically our friends to the north opened the door for this now almost universal grade based segmentation of youth club lacrosse. In 2012 there were ZERO grade based clubs in MD. Breakers, FCA, Hawks, Madlax, Looneys, Roughriders, Green Turtle.... even Crabs were age based -- u11, u13, u15 in youth and then grade in HS. And all local tournaments were age based. I think when rec teams started getting pounding by teams named Express 2019, Crush 2020 etc in what had been rec tournaments LaxSpash/Beachlax -- the seas of change were set in motion. That scourge of youth sports took over – the need to win at all costs and opportunity to make money. The next thing you know its dump the rec programs and organize by grade to take advantage of kids who were held back in kindergarten. More clubs, more tournaments, more money. Now we have Team 91 MD breaking new ground on how much money we can fleece parents for in youth lax in MD. My original point is that clubs in Maryland, DC and Va followed the format created in NY. It’s imperfect and unnecessary but for the most part keeps kids within an 18 month window. Of course there are some that push the limit but the “double hold-back” is a myth. There is a rule in the MIAA that you can’t turn 19 before school year and play a sport. Anyway you can’t blame teams for organizing by grade when that’s how tournaments and teams from other regions are formed. If clubs on LI feel the system is unfair/unsafe – let’s see some leadership organize your teams/tournaments by single year’s u11, u12, u13 etc and based on US Lax 9/1 cut-offs. Many including me would welcome the change. Until then you are just whining about a system you helped create.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 11:11 AM
Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 11:42 AM
Edge 6 fl$ 4..all games were very competitive between Sweetlax Edge and fl$. The FCA North-East team were overmatched. Great venue and weather. In the 2021 division Team Igloo dominated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?


fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 11:51 AM
We always tell the organizers the age of our kids. Sweetlax had no problem with it. Oldest may 5/2001 youngest Jan 17/2002. The tournament was competitive and fl$ actually deserved to win the final but the edge goalies stood on his head. We don't hide behind the fact that we play in both the 2019 and 2020 division. Read the rules for Adrenaline out of country is exempt. Yet we are playing 2019 there and in Richmond. NYPLL we are playing 2020 and Sweetlax we played 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Edge 6 fl$ 4..all games were very competitive between Sweetlax Edge and fl$. The FCA North-East team were overmatched. Great venue and weather. In the 2021 division Team Igloo dominated.


Was the Sweetlax FOGO from Long Island?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 12:35 PM
yes. not as dominant as he usually is/once was...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 12:36 PM
yes he is very good. Took our guys awhile to figure him out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?


fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.


Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 01:06 PM
All is good with fl$, thank you. See you soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?


fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.


Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?


Sweetlax lost to Edge in overtime. Edge was a ninth grade team. Very big and skilled. Igloo 2021 looked very good, probably could have played up and done well, except size would have been an issue with Edge
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results from Sweetlax tourney in Cornell?


fl$ beat Sweetlax 9-7, FCA 16-2, and lost twice to Edge 2001 by 2 goals.


Didn't last year's fl$ team beat Edge and then lose to them in the final? And wasn't that Edge 2020 team full of hold backs? What happened to the massive fl$ upgrade?


Sweetlax lost to Edge in overtime. Edge was a ninth grade team. Very big and skilled. Igloo 2021 looked very good, probably could have played up and done well, except size would have been an issue with Edge
FYI Igloo 2021 would not do well against any good 2020 teams, you are smoking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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So, who got an invite to Maverick Showtime 2020? Best showcase for recruiting but very selective. All the big clubs got between 2-5 invites. So you can see if your coaches think you were 6cworthy.


91 Crush recieved 10 invites.


They got 5, so did express


wrong
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ironically our friends to the north opened the door for this now almost universal grade based segmentation of youth club lacrosse. In 2012 there were ZERO grade based clubs in MD. Breakers, FCA, Hawks, Madlax, Looneys, Roughriders, Green Turtle.... even Crabs were age based -- u11, u13, u15 in youth and then grade in HS. And all local tournaments were age based. I think when rec teams started getting pounding by teams named Express 2019, Crush 2020 etc in what had been rec tournaments LaxSpash/Beachlax -- the seas of change were set in motion. That scourge of youth sports took over – the need to win at all costs and opportunity to make money. The next thing you know its dump the rec programs and organize by grade to take advantage of kids who were held back in kindergarten. More clubs, more tournaments, more money. Now we have Team 91 MD breaking new ground on how much money we can fleece parents for in youth lax in MD. My original point is that clubs in Maryland, DC and Va followed the format created in NY. It’s imperfect and unnecessary but for the most part keeps kids within an 18 month window. Of course there are some that push the limit but the “double hold-back” is a myth. There is a rule in the MIAA that you can’t turn 19 before school year and play a sport. Anyway you can’t blame teams for organizing by grade when that’s how tournaments and teams from other regions are formed. If clubs on LI feel the system is unfair/unsafe – let’s see some leadership organize your teams/tournaments by single year’s u11, u12, u13 etc and based on US Lax 9/1 cut-offs. Many including me would welcome the change. Until then you are just whining about a system you helped create.


100% spot on true and accurate and the best post in this entire forum...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 03:12 PM
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 03:22 PM
Be happy you got 5 other teams got 0. Respect is earned not giving. Other Long Island teams need to smack down express to start getting noticed. You will all get your chance to beat us if we go to any tournaments you are in. Until than its crush and us on Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 03:29 PM
Edge here we up graded 8 players from the team that played sweetlax last year. fl$ are a much better team than they were last year. Could have won the final if they didn't run into a hot goalie
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 03:33 PM
Looneys 2020..5..Hawks 0...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looneys 2020..5..Hawks 0...


Where???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 04:16 PM
express author...so humble. Enjoy beating your drum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 04:19 PM
The Express folks may not understand this mathematical equation so perhaps someone can help them with it but:

Legacy > LI EXPRESS Twerps

The proof to said equation will be released soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 05:22 PM
YOUNG GUNS....this past summer
HAWKS forgot where the goal was...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YOUNG GUNS....this past summer
HAWKS forgot where the goal was...


Why bring up game from 2014/15 between MD teams on board for 2015/16 NY?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 09:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Edge here we up graded 8 players from the team that played sweetlax last year. fl$ are a much better team than they were last year. Could have won the final if they didn't run into a hot goalie


Edge parent huh? Yeah and I'm Santa Claus.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 02:15 PM
yes edge parent u want my postal code?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 04:01 PM
[quote=Anonymous]yes edge parent u want my postal code? [/quote

Edge parent, don't even bother with that poster, he's just a bitter ex-fl$ parent who can't move on. Appreciate you guys making the trip on Sunday and giving us two great games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 06:05 PM
Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 10:18 PM
Can't wait until all the Baltimore teams crush Crush in the fall or summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.


So who played in this tournament and what were the scores?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/06/15 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can't wait until all the Baltimore teams crush Crush in the fall or summer.


Sad state of affairs when you can only dream of doing that now because you kicked off all your age appropriate kids to replace them with older kids. News flash- you didn't get better- you got older. Losers with a need to be noticed drop down to play younger kids. Talented kids stay on age and play up. Hope your teams aren't embarassed by younger kids. You best be able to double digit win if your older players are so good, otherwise they just may have wasted a year and look silly not being able to stand out against the younger kids.

If you were that good, your whole team would play up. That's where the coaches will be this year. I'm sure the LI teams will challenge themselves- but the Baltimore holdbacks won't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually Ithaca is not bad 4 hours and we like the Sweetlax people. Don't think we see you (fl$) again so good luck with the rest of your season this fall and hopefully we see you again next summer.


So who played in this tournament and what were the scores?


refer to page 45
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.


Your kid born in Q4? Just go to calendar year groupings, 5/1, 9/1, all arbitrary
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.


Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 11:11 AM
Why not just play in year of birth? Why do 9/1 it just opens up for abuse. This system works in hockey
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.


Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!


Be careful what you wish for. The next thing will be regulating if kids are legally allowed to be cut from a team....Sports need to fix themselves from within.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.


Saw that legislation being introduced in Jersey. Good for them! Hope others will follow their lead!


Be careful what you wish for. The next thing will be regulating if kids are legally allowed to be cut from a team....Sports need to fix themselves from within.


Agreed , but do you think that with this sport in particular it would actually happen from within ? I honestly don't think so.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 04:09 PM
Keep crying, Long Island!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island!
Keep cheating Maryland!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/07/15 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
from LI, parent of a '20 (appropriate age), sounds reasonable to me. get rid of 5/1 as cutoff (ridiculous) and organize tournaments by u age as of 9/1. I don't care if the author of this is crabs/looney's/leadiug edge/breakers/crush/fl$- great post and agreed.


Agree-back to 9/1 ! Too bad nobody has the guts and ability to put into place and enforce. NJ is trying to cut down on holdbacks who do so for sports and proposing kids that were held back in middle school only be permitted to play 3 years in high school. That would put an end to this nonsense.




Your kid born in Q4? Just go to calendar year groupings, 5/1, 9/1, all arbitrary


8/31 or 9/1 is used for most sports because they are trying to align as close as possible by grade and most of the country uses a 9/1 school cutoff. Understand NY does not but the rest of the country does and it allows as many kids as possible to play with their legitimate classmates. It is also the date that the old age system in youth lacrosse used before the grade based system was pushed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 12:18 AM
So how do 2019 kids get to play on 2020 teams? Is that only allowed for daddy coaches kids, or can my 2019 kid tryout for a 2020 team next year? Just wondering how it works?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 12:50 AM
Keep crying, Long Island!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 12:59 AM
I agree, ridiculous.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 04:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!


i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 11:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!


i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.


I'm not sure that's true. It's not most. It's some. And many of those you mentioned were already stand out players that did a PG year for a variety of reasons. Doing a PG year after you are already committed is very different that putting your 9th grader on an 8th grade team to make him look better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 11:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island!


Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island!
Keep cheating, Maryland!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can't magically create a great player by holding a kid back. It may appear that a mediocre player is a better temporarily, but that will only last a little while. If you hold a great player back, they will continue to be great and look amazing. Problem is most of the kids being held back now are not great, just average. In a few years they will be average again. If they happen to be recruited the majority will ride the bench. Cream rises to the top, no matter how hard you shake the milk!


i know you want to believe this but do yourself a favor and look at the birthdays/grad years on the top div 1 teams. not all publish this info but some do. The MAJORITY were 19 entering freshman year.
Guess that makes it alright then.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 03:43 PM
Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.


They are from Calgary, Western Canada. Where are you playing them? Looks like a west Coast version of Edge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone ever heard of Elev8 futures lacrosse from Canada? They are in a tournament we are playing in. From their website they appear to be 9th graders playing 2020.


They are from Calgary, Western Canada. Where are you playing them? Looks like a west Coast version of Edge.

Richmond
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 06:42 PM
Run by Geoff Snider face-off man fro Canada. In Canada quality of play goes Ontario BC Alberta in that order. They may be older but I wouldn't lose any sleep about playing them. What tournament are they traveling to? They usually play mid-west and western USA. There base in Calgary
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/08/15 06:45 PM
Rumble in Richmond?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 09:51 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island!


Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.


Where?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep crying, Long Island!


Taz vs Sons on Monday. Should be a good one.


Where?


please don't say the practice fields off EI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 11:06 AM
Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.


Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 12:15 PM
Wow. A little LI envy?! Pent up anger. Good luck nut job.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 12:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.


Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.


Nope. No holdbacks on this team (not that teams with holdbacks are breaking the rules).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. A little LI envy?! Pent up anger. Good luck nut job.


Envious that you can't beat us without holding back? Try playing up if your going to brag before the games are even played. A nut job is someone who knows his kid can't win against his own age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 03:51 PM
um, i think we are aligned against this mid-atlantic uprising...no wonder so many want to knock LI down...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 05:34 PM
These anonymous pissing matches over LI vs MD or between clubs are pathetic. The kids that end up playing in college become teammates and friends for life with other kids from all over. You guys should get a hobby of your own to brag or fight about. Golf, Tennis, softball, yoga? Fantasy football if you can't leave your computer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 09:00 PM
What is a midatlantic team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mid Atlantic 2020 teams have loaded up. Can't wait to pummel Long Island.


Only because you left your kids back a year. Losers.


Nope. No holdbacks on this team (not that teams with holdbacks are breaking the rules).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 11:33 PM
I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/09/15 11:59 PM
Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 01:24 AM
Good for them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State


Lol, anyone that thinks a 13 year old is equipt to make a decision like this is CRAZY!! If you are that good, coaches will wait
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 01:41 AM
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 02:01 AM
Kids are smart to look at schools early, it's the committing early part that is questionable. Fall is a great time to explore campuses
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 02:13 AM
Kids should visits schools early it's the committing early that's the problem. The fall is a great time to visit campuses. why wait til summer time to start touring ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.


If every bride is beautifull...why are there so many ugly wives?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/10/15 12:51 PM
Keep crying, Long Island
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 05:20 PM


It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 05:57 PM
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It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits. [/quote]

Yea they should keep it a secret. You sound ridiculous and I'm not from that side. Visiting schools isn't the issue committing is but how would you know Also can't imagine the moderator/ are ok w name calling like that Take a Valium and enjoy the beautiful day instead of stalking
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish something other than 91 Crush and MD holdbacks got discussed on this 2020 thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 09:58 PM
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It's bad enough that this recruiting thing is reaching that far down. He is part of the problem promoting/bragging about 8th graders going on recruiting visits. [/quote]

Yes he is Satan, giving his kids an edge when he can, the worst kind of guy looking out for the kids that play for him, how dare he!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 10:49 PM
There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you


What is nutz is that you believe what an anonymous poster says when they obviously have an agenda.. Come on.. wake up. What if they did, anyway? What's it to ya?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 11:38 PM
Confused as to why kids visiting a college campus and playing lacrosse is a crime. Any of the kids commit ? No. End of the story How's it any different than people posting igloo at Cornell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/11/15 11:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is no way this is "looking out for the kids". What this is is self promotion. I am sorry, you don't visit colleges in groups. Also, there is no way an 8th, 9th or 10th grader is equipt to make a decision like this. The whole thing is nuts. If you are that good, coaches will wait for you


After being through this with another, I can tell you the coaches will wait. Not only will they wait, they will beg you to break your commitment, if you decide to make one. My son committed early, and continued to Excell at the same level. Plenty of schools made offers after the verbal. We stuck with the commitment because it was a good fit with a generous scholarship. Point is you will have plenty of choices if you are worthy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 12:43 AM
How do the 2020 teams stack up this year? Any big moves or changes that will give teams an edge? I am curious about the Maryland teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.


Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 03:08 AM
[quote=Anonymous]Confused as to why kids visiting a college campus and playing lacrosse is a crime. Any of the kids commit ? No. End of the story How's it any different than people posting igloo at Cornell [/
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.


Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.


It all seems like great stuff to me. Football at Ohio State, 107,000 fans, every kid would want to do it, so would every dad that is any sort of a sports fan if you ask me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.


Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.


Fyi, this was not a recruiting visit. Just a campus vsit. There is a big difference. Plenty of kids have started to do this. The arguably best kids on the team were not there. I would doubt any of those kids actually have their eye on OSU, not to knock the program, just think they have higher aspirations!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.


Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.


What a farce, the one kid who will unquestionably get a lot of very early love is the Crush lefty attackman and he didn't bother to make the trip. I ran into the kid and dad over the weekend, dad is a real good dude has his head on straight. This kid didn't make the trip but a 6th grader was on a "recruiting visit" . Wake up people
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Crush kids on a college visit this week, Ohio State [/quot

I heard the OSU coaches were drooling over them and offered every player a new Mercedes and a verbal commitment.


Btw, not all the crush. Only the select few and DELETED....who is in 6th grade.


Fyi, this was not a recruiting visit. Just a campus vsit. There is a big difference. Plenty of kids have started to do this. The arguably best kids on the team were not there. I would doubt any of those kids actually have their eye on OSU, not to knock the program, just think they have higher aspirations!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:28 PM
Really ? I know of one other that is D1 material and that's if he grows. Individual play is not over the top except for Attackman. We'll coached and trained as a Unit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 01:58 PM
This is not unique to 91. fl$ is trying to organize a 7 day bus tour where for a fee (ha!) they will take a group of kids (including 8th graders) to visit a long list of colleges.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 02:03 PM
I think there are at least 4/5 D1 on that team. You will see
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 03:44 PM
Further evidence that 2020 Crush is just about 5 guys. They couldn't care less about the rest of the team, as long as those 5 kids are promoted 24x7, especially that particular one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 04:33 PM
Legacy beat express north 19-0
Looks like they are the #2 team, may even give Crush a game. Was wondering why Terps didn't show to this tournament, now I know!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Further evidence that 2020 Crush is just about 5 guys. They couldn't care less about the rest of the team, as long as those 5 kids are promoted 24x7, especially that particular one.



Not that you deserve it but FYI entire team invited Now enjoy East Islip today and keep reporting the scores
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 06:58 PM
TAZ only ties Rising Sons 5-5. I believe you beat them last season. A little premature to be pounding your chest and talking about a competitive game against Crush.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 07:13 PM
Taz V Crush wouldnt be competitive
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/12/15 07:49 PM
Sons added some talented players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:07 AM
Watched Taz first hand today. Was totally unimpressed.. They are good don't get me wrong but no where close to Crush
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 03:24 AM
was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 10:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.


That is because I bet over 1/2 of their team is already 14
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 11:49 AM
Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.


Sons were just ok, Taz should've beat them, surprised it wasn't a Taz win by a couple of goals. Taz very strong team, improved at most positions and they play hard. They run a short bench, didn't see a lot of substitutions, maybe run two midfields and 3-4 attack. They'll be right there after Crush with Express, but to say they're #2 isn't warranted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watched Taz first hand today. Was totally unimpressed.. They are good don't get me wrong but no where close to Crush
Anone that plays the Sons is not going to impress.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sons & Black Ice got much bigger. Taz is a very good team but no one is in the class of Crush.


Sons were just ok, Taz should've beat them, surprised it wasn't a Taz win by a couple of goals. Taz very strong team, improved at most positions and they play hard. They run a short bench, didn't see a lot of substitutions, maybe run two midfields and 3-4 attack. They'll be right there after Crush with Express, but to say they're #2 isn't warranted.
Uhh, Sons left two on the door step, point blank. Had they won any face offs they win that game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
was it just me or sons were a very big team? saw them and express warming up for their first game and was suprised at the comparison.

i did not see or notice the size of any other teams so i could be way off base. my kid was a younger year so I can't really say i would know their normal size.


That is because I bet over 1/2 of their team is already 14
Good thing are 3 biggest poles were not there. All age appropriate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:05 PM
Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:17 PM
Even with Taz improving, They still cant beat Express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz


No, Express will avoid this meeting. Miss the days when all the top teams showed to Halloween Havoc and let results determine the pecking order.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy beat express north 19-0
Looks like they are the #2 team, may even give Crush a game. Was wondering why Terps didn't show to this tournament, now I know!


The LIE North team must have been a B team, I watched the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will TAZ every play Express?? or will Express every play Taz


No, Express will avoid this meeting. Miss the days when all the top teams showed to Halloween Havoc and let results determine the pecking order.


It's pathetic that all the Long Island teams can't play a few home tournaments in the fall - Express, Legacy, Outlaws, whatever, get fields, get dates, and let the kids stay home and play!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 02:07 PM
Legacy > Twerps. Will never post here again if I'm wrong. Looking forward to seeing this match up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy > Twerps. Will never post here again if I'm wrong. Looking forward to seeing this match up.


Please don't put it all the line, your posts are so riveting/insightful, if Legacy happens to lose, please grace us with your literary insights forever, pick something else, more important to give up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 02:21 PM
After yesterday i think legacy should stay off this board until you actually beat a team not tie an average team . Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 02:38 PM
Hearing a lot of discontent among the Crush kids who are not supported/promoted. Some are apparently going to leave soon for a different club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hearing a lot of discontent among the Crush kids who are not supported/promoted. Some are apparently going to leave soon for a different club.


Going to play for the Easter Bunnies is what I've heard.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 05:06 PM
What were people's thoughts that were at Legacy Sons game as well as Igloo 2021 vs Legacy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 05:53 PM
Last year Legacy played tough games and have beat Laxachussets, Crabs, Loonies, Rising Sons - all top teams, just to name a few. Tied Terps in scrimmages but haven't beat Terps yet.
They are working hard and are consistently improving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 06:43 PM
Uncle on Legacy beating Terps.. its not gonna' happen anytime soon... And YES they TIED R Sons yesterday, thats all.....

AND BTW:
I would rather my sons team be Constantly improving, not consistently improving...

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 06:51 PM
Legacy was much better than Igloo 2021 in the championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 07:36 PM
"Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand."

Yeah, says who? The above statement is ridiculous. I don't think express needs to show anything to anyone...or care. YOU may want them there to prove yourself. Hopefully the express kids had a nice weekend off...its fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Also the terps should have been at this tourney to show where they stand."

Yeah, says who? The above statement is ridiculous. I don't think express needs to show anything to anyone...or care. YOU may want them there to prove yourself. Hopefully the express kids had a nice weekend off...its fall.


Good to see there are more than just two good club teams, this year we'll hopefully have 4-6 strong teams that can find ways to stay home, invite some PA, NJ, MA, CT teams to the strong island and prove the strength of LI lax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 08:36 PM
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but there was no competition at the x. Legacy has good players at all positions, but no real studs. That is why they will run into trouble when they vs. The elite teams. The teams at this tournament were b teams, with the exception of Igloo, who were young.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 10:22 PM
Only half of Igloo's team is young, lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 10:40 PM
all this chatter about legacy on how they are competitive with most of the top teams in the country. And they are, but yesterday as my 2021 son finished his tournament swung by to Legacy vs Outlaws, and to be honest it was a pretty competitive game for the first 20 minutes. I believe it was 3-1 then the Outlaws were gased and just got out played. Yes, Legacy is the better team, but Outlaws have definitely improved, especially with their new coaches. Excited to see how far they go this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 10:55 PM
Typical Outlaws parent...If you came over to just watch .Why are you excited to see the Outlaws. Get a grip. Yes they definitely got some new talent and Smithtown coaches. But still a B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/13/15 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Typical Outlaws parent...If you came over to just watch .Why are you excited to see the Outlaws. Get a grip. Yes they definitely got some new talent and Smithtown coaches. But still a B team.


Maybe the coach who has arguably the best attack and f/o units in the country will coach up that team. Time will tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 01:23 PM
Not from Long Island. Can someone rate the 2020 LI teams for me. You have so many teams there it gets very confusing. I am not poking the beehive here. I'm from outside the USA!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:05 PM
OK- NPYLL Championship game 2 consecutive seasons. Pathetic?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:24 PM
Top 10 on Long Island
1 91 Crush
2 Express Terps
BIG DROP OFF

3 Leg Taz
4 Igloo
5 fl$
6 Express B
7 Team 32
8 BlueFish
9 Outlaws
10 Leg Rav


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top 10 on Long Island
1 91 Crush
2 Express Terps
BIG DROP OFF

3 Leg Taz
4 Igloo
5 fl$
6 Express B
7 Team 32
8 BlueFish
9 Outlaws
10 Leg Rav




Crush
BIG DROP OFF

Express
Legacy
fl$
Outlaws
No clue
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:51 PM
...great, thank you. It was nice of the Igloo daddy to start that list off...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:53 PM
whoops. sorry to poke fun. I didn't realize that someone had asked the question. Thanks Igloo dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 03:13 PM
Thanks for the feedback and we have played 91,fl$ and Igloo in the past and would suggest the current fl$ are a little stronger than Igloo if they didn't upgrade from July this year. Cheers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 03:34 PM
here we with the lists again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
here we with the lists again.


Don't worry, in another year your KIDS will be ranked by na me and position. Then the claws will really come out!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 04:28 PM
It is difficult to rank the teams since every team upgraded their roster while all of the other teams lost their best players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 04:40 PM
I think the Blue Fish team is alot of GC kids who did make their travel team or any other travel teams so I can't see them being that good, as the GC 2020 team is not very strong in the first place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 04:40 PM
I think the Blue Fish team is alot of GC kids who did make their travel team or any other travel teams so I can't see them being that good, as the GC 2020 team is not very strong in the first place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 06:04 PM
The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...


How is it broken? Just curious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?
nope
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 09:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?
nope


Yep, Legacy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?
nope


Yep, Legacy
Who?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 01:35 PM
what?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Legacy dominated the X which gave them many more opportunities to score. Sons are very athletic and skilled. Moved the ball well on offense, looked like HS offense. Sticks not always super sharp. Legacy sticks looked sharper. Legacy has some go to offensive studs where sons just play no real go to guys. Legacy goalie slightly better than sons. Had some big stops. Sons poles can pressure. Good game. Seen them play several times.


Any 2019's on the field for the 2020 teams either sons or Legacy?
nope


Yep, Legacy
Who?


Ask the Legacy kid who was cut so a 2019 kid could take his place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 05:31 PM
Only 3 or 4 go kids on bluefish a. Think the b team has most of them. A team is a very good mix. But very early to say how they will be. A lot of talent but kids never played together
This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by The Hop
This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.


Thanks for sharing HOP!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 09:43 PM
you should post that on every thread on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 10:39 PM
Nice post, unfortunately many kids succeed on LI (and probably elsewhere ) due to their own hard work and perseverance. Despite the coach, most of them with an agenda that does not include your son. Having three boys going through or have gone through the process, one is an all American despite of the coaches who didn’t believe in him, but jumped on the bandwagon to take credit. Ultimately your son will succeed at this sport if he keeps his eyes on his goals (with the never-ending support of his PARENTS)! Remember that that there is NO substitute for practice, practice, practice! Good luck to all the underdogs out there! Go out and prove people wrong!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/16/15 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by The Hop
This is a story for all Club owners, directors and coaches. It's long but worth the read. Too many kids are being used as pay checks and are not being afforded the direction and encouragement they deserve. Lacrosse is a sport that can offer so many opportunities and many never get the chance. It's supposed to be about the kids not the paycheck!
Although this story is about a teacher it easily applies to our current Club lacrosse culture.

Stories like this, always have a way of putting the right perspective on life.

Jean Thompson stood in front of her fifth-grade class on the very first day of school in the fall and told the children a lie. Like most teachers, she looked at her pupils and said that she loved them all the same, that she would treat them all alike. And that was impossible because there in front of her, slumped in his seat on the third row, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard.

Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed he didn't play well with the other children, that his clothes were unkept and that he constantly needed a bath. And Teddy was unpleasant.

It got to the point during the first few months that she would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then marking the F at the top of the paper biggest of all. Because Teddy was a sullen little boy, no one else seemed to enjoy him, either.

At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's records and put Teddy's off until last. When she opened his file, she was in for a surprise. His first-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright, inquisitive child with a ready laugh." "He does his work neatly and has good manners...he is a joy to be around."

His second-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student well-liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle."

His third-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy continues to work hard but his mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken."

Teddy's fourth-grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and sometimes sleeps in class. He is tardy and could become a problem."

By now Mrs. Thompson realized the problem, but Christmas was coming fast. It was all she could do, with the school play and all, until the day before the holidays began and she was suddenly forced to focus on Teddy Stoddard.

Her children brought her presents, all in beautiful ribbon and bright paper, except for Teddy's, which was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper of a scissored grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents.

Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of cologne. She stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume behind the other wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed behind just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my mom used to."

After the children left she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing, and speaking. Instead, she began to teach children. Jean Thompson paid particular attention to one they all called "Teddy."

As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. On days where there would be an important test, Mrs. Thompson would remember that cologne. By the end of the year he had become one of the smartest children in the class and...well, he had also become the "pet" of the teacher who had once vowed to love all of her children exactly the same.

A year later she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that of all the teachers he'd had in elementary school, she was his favorite. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy.

He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still his favorite teacher of all time.

Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson she was still his favorite teacher.

Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still his favorite teacher, but that now his name was a little longer. The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, M.D.

The story doesn't end there. You see, there was yet another letter that Spring. Teddy said he'd met this girl and was to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering...well, if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit in the pew usually reserved for the mother of the groom. And guess what, she wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. And I bet on that special day, Jean Thompson smelled just like...well, just like the way he remembers his mother did.

With that said please remember that today's 8th grade player who needs work may be tomorrow's All American if given the opportunity. It's not about the money you make but the lives you impact.


Just in case anyone is wondering, this story was originally published in 1976 as a work of fiction so it isn't true. However, the moral and lessons to be learned, whether true or not, absolutely deserve to be shared and followed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/16/15 06:03 PM
Who coaches the 2020 Terps team, Wieczorek?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/16/15 07:34 PM
yes, always has.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/16/15 10:21 PM
Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/16/15 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.


Thanks so much Mr. Trump! Dope.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to be cold hearted it was a nice story, but when you pay in excess of $2,000 for 4-5 tournaments it's not about the little boy who can't that's for town ball. Elite LI lax is for winning and the brand. If you think anyway else your probably a bleeding heart liberal. It's not mandatory to play summer ball and if you want to play more practice, practice , practice. I am actually tired of everyone looking for the diamond in the rough or poor JOhnny he in uncoordinated. Play the best players and try and win the game.


You my friend are a complete idiot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/18/15 10:25 PM
Bluefish B had a solid day today. How did Bluefish A do at Hofstra ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 12:40 PM
A lot of complete idiots in this sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 01:06 PM
Has Igloo played yet this fall? How'd they look?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 01:23 PM
How come the little bald 2020 legacy b coach coaches 3 teams and scams his kids to the most playing. At the expense of every other kid in these teams. He is a pal coach who never played anywhere. Yet he kisses every ones but to get his kids everything he can. He just took time away from my son at the Columbus Day tournament. This is a joke and so is legacy for having a blind eye to this fake guy with his personnel agenda.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 02:19 PM
why does he have to be bald?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How come the little bald 2020 legacy b coach coaches 3 teams and scams his kids to the most playing. At the expense of every other kid in these teams. He is a pal coach who never played anywhere. Yet he kisses every ones but to get his kids everything he can. He just took time away from my son at the Columbus Day tournament. This is a joke and so is legacy for having a blind eye to this fake guy with his personnel agenda.


I can't remember his name but I heard he was a good coach and that's an A level team. Not true I guess?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 04:07 PM
while its still early on this thread, I took this from the 2019 thread as it is informative and well written.

This will be long winded but hopefully valuable to some family considering making a college early commit decision in the next weeks/months


there is nothing wrong with a 9th grader giving a verbal commitment with a 20%- 30% athletic scholarship offer to a great school. Why do you care if he does? How exactly does it harm the kid or the game?

So what if he never even steps on the field in college, he is on a D-1 team with all the privileges that come with being a d-1 athlete...

think academic advisers and tutors that are not available to the average freshman non athlete. think paying less for the same education than those non athletes. think being part of a team and transitioning from high school to college as part of a culture that requires work ethic and accountability

think of his first interview after college in his chosen field and being able to say, I played d-1. total commitment to a team while maintaining a great gpa. I hire a few new kids every year and the d-1 athletes (whether or not it is lax, whether or not they ever step on the field) always have an advantage over the non athletes because i know that any kid that can maintain good grades while working full time (yes-d-1 athletics are full time jobs) are more likely than not to be workers. doesn't work out 100% of the time, but the odds are in my favor to hire the d-1 athlete kid over the kid that got through with the exact same gpa but no athletics...

for all those saying late bloomers will eventually rule the day-good for those kids, i wish them and their families nothing but the best. but please be realistic, the top 20 programs, with the most dollars to spend on lax scholarships (most d-1 lax programs are not fully funded, those that are fully funded have only 12.5 scholarships to parse out among 45-60 kids-the math doesn't lie) are mostly fully committed by fall of soph year. It means that the late bloomer needs to be an incredible stud just to get a spot on that team, and forget scholarship money in year one. yes, maybe that kid will get dollars in year two, I hope so for him. But it means that the late bloomer's family is paying ($60k school at 30% scholarship = $18k) $18k more than the early commit kid in year one...

So, think of early recruiting this way-

your kid is not a lax player nor does he know what he wants to do with the rest of his life, but nonetheless, JHU, Penn state, Ohio state, Michigan, Virginia, unc, duke..., offered your kid the ability to get a special discount of 20%-30% reduction in year one price tag with an assurance that he will get into that school as long as he maintains a gpa of xxx with SATS of xxx. He likes all of those schools as do you as they are all top 50 academic institutions according the us news and world report.

he doesn't have to stress over the application process or worry about making his HS extra curricular and community service hours look better than everyone else that also wants to go to that school. He get a special pass to get in as long as he gets the grades, sounds like a pretty good deal doesn't it? If he goes to JHU and wakes up after a year and hates it, he transfers, happens all the time to athletes and non athletes alike. not the end of the world


let's please also remember the college coaches are the ones asking kids to commit. they come offering scholarship dollars and free meal plans and woo them by bringing them to big time college football games and introducing the kids and their parents to the privileged world of d-1 athletics.

Do you all think you are smarter than these coaches? Do you think you are a better judge of talent? Please understand, i mean no disrespect to the kids that aren't fully mature. they will grow when they grow and we all want them to be successful in whatever they choose.

But please stop calling the kids that committed early crazy or saying that they are
somehow ruining the game. they are offered an early spot at a great school and a special discount (still need to get the grades and still no guarantees until you sign the national letter of intent).

My fam has been to all the schools i listed above (2018 early commit) and the range of athletic and academic dollars varied from school to school. My kid liked all the schools, as did the rest of our clan. We chose based upon some of the key criteria below, with different levels of value depending on how important the specific criteria was to our situation -no snarky comments please, this is meant to help some other 2019 fam that is making a decision soon.

-perceived fit academically with an idea towards a major, but he really doesn't know what he wants to do to make a living. He had interest from ivy, but it is important to understand your kid. not everyone-even if they have a 98 gpa, is going to be able to handle the academic pressure at an ivy...to each his own.

--academic support and tutors-not all the schools are equal in this regard, if you have any doubt whether your kid will need this support, make sure you know exactly what is offered. In our experience, the big football schools had the most service relating to this aspect. I was surprised that a few of the schools had very little free support

-perceived fit socially-felt like it was the right size institution for my kid

--size of the campus

--living arrangements-does your fam like those dorms, will he get tripled, how far are dorms from practice facility, from class rooms, from town...

-academic ranking nationally

-coach and team culture (this one was really tough, we liked all the coaches, some more than others, but will that coach still be at that school in three years?) Is my kid a piece of meet because the coach's number one priority is winning a national championship? For this one, and several of the other criteria, i think it is important to talk to some of the current players and their parents. you would be surprised at how open people are--both good and bad

--money offered for athletic scholarship- note every coach told us, yes there is no legal contract, athletic scholarships are year to year, but we guarantee you you will get no less than this percentage all four years. we are smart enough to know that athletic dollars are year to year. do coaches lie? i am sure some do and i am sure some don't. ask the parents of a current player that is not the team stud. they will tell you the truth

--money offered for academics-assuming he maintains gpa of xxx, he will get this amount in academic dollars. note, these academic dollars are more valuable than athletic dollars, not necessarily in terms of percentage, but in terms of the annual renewal. 3.0 in college gpa each year and the academic dollars renew...some schools had no academic dollars for which my kid would qualify

--alumni network--it just means that potentially, you will be more likely to land a job after graduation based upon a strong alumni network, that is the theory anyway

--financial aid- we didn't spend any time on this because my fam can't qualify for aid, while that in and of itself sucks, it means we are lucky in the big picture

I hope this helps someone...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 04:33 PM
Thanks
That was awesome!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 05:00 PM
He isn't a good coach. He just tells everyone what they want to hear. He does this to benefit his 3 kids at the expense of others. I have seen him get thrown out of Islip pal lacrosse games on more then one occasion. He is always yelling and needs attention. It is sickening. Now it is taking away from other kids on the legacy teams he is involved with. I wish he would leave. However, he is so far up the directors butts that it looks like I will just have to leave with my kid instead. It is a shame because minus him I really like the legacy program. I have spoken to people on the other teams he is involved with and it is the same thing. The guy is a jerk with a Napoleon complex.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
while its still early on this thread, I took this from the 2019 thread as it is informative and well written.

This will be long winded but hopefully valuable to some family considering making a college early commit decision in the next weeks/months


there is nothing wrong with a 9th grader giving a verbal commitment with a 20%- 30% athletic scholarship offer to a great school. Why do you care if he does? How exactly does it harm the kid or the game?

So what if he never even steps on the field in college, he is on a D-1 team with all the privileges that come with being a d-1 athlete...

think academic advisers and tutors that are not available to the average freshman non athlete. think paying less for the same education than those non athletes. think being part of a team and transitioning from high school to college as part of a culture that requires work ethic and accountability

think of his first interview after college in his chosen field and being able to say, I played d-1. total commitment to a team while maintaining a great gpa. I hire a few new kids every year and the d-1 athletes (whether or not it is lax, whether or not they ever step on the field) always have an advantage over the non athletes because i know that any kid that can maintain good grades while working full time (yes-d-1 athletics are full time jobs) are more likely than not to be workers. doesn't work out 100% of the time, but the odds are in my favor to hire the d-1 athlete kid over the kid that got through with the exact same gpa but no athletics...

for all those saying late bloomers will eventually rule the day-good for those kids, i wish them and their families nothing but the best. but please be realistic, the top 20 programs, with the most dollars to spend on lax scholarships (most d-1 lax programs are not fully funded, those that are fully funded have only 12.5 scholarships to parse out among 45-60 kids-the math doesn't lie) are mostly fully committed by fall of soph year. It means that the late bloomer needs to be an incredible stud just to get a spot on that team, and forget scholarship money in year one. yes, maybe that kid will get dollars in year two, I hope so for him. But it means that the late bloomer's family is paying ($60k school at 30% scholarship = $18k) $18k more than the early commit kid in year one...

So, think of early recruiting this way-

your kid is not a lax player nor does he know what he wants to do with the rest of his life, but nonetheless, JHU, Penn state, Ohio state, Michigan, Virginia, unc, duke..., offered your kid the ability to get a special discount of 20%-30% reduction in year one price tag with an assurance that he will get into that school as long as he maintains a gpa of xxx with SATS of xxx. He likes all of those schools as do you as they are all top 50 academic institutions according the us news and world report.

he doesn't have to stress over the application process or worry about making his HS extra curricular and community service hours look better than everyone else that also wants to go to that school. He get a special pass to get in as long as he gets the grades, sounds like a pretty good deal doesn't it? If he goes to JHU and wakes up after a year and hates it, he transfers, happens all the time to athletes and non athletes alike. not the end of the world


let's please also remember the college coaches are the ones asking kids to commit. they come offering scholarship dollars and free meal plans and woo them by bringing them to big time college football games and introducing the kids and their parents to the privileged world of d-1 athletics.

Do you all think you are smarter than these coaches? Do you think you are a better judge of talent? Please understand, i mean no disrespect to the kids that aren't fully mature. they will grow when they grow and we all want them to be successful in whatever they choose.

But please stop calling the kids that committed early crazy or saying that they are
somehow ruining the game. they are offered an early spot at a great school and a special discount (still need to get the grades and still no guarantees until you sign the national letter of intent).

My fam has been to all the schools i listed above (2018 early commit) and the range of athletic and academic dollars varied from school to school. My kid liked all the schools, as did the rest of our clan. We chose based upon some of the key criteria below, with different levels of value depending on how important the specific criteria was to our situation -no snarky comments please, this is meant to help some other 2019 fam that is making a decision soon.

-perceived fit academically with an idea towards a major, but he really doesn't know what he wants to do to make a living. He had interest from ivy, but it is important to understand your kid. not everyone-even if they have a 98 gpa, is going to be able to handle the academic pressure at an ivy...to each his own.

--academic support and tutors-not all the schools are equal in this regard, if you have any doubt whether your kid will need this support, make sure you know exactly what is offered. In our experience, the big football schools had the most service relating to this aspect. I was surprised that a few of the schools had very little free support

-perceived fit socially-felt like it was the right size institution for my kid

--size of the campus

--living arrangements-does your fam like those dorms, will he get tripled, how far are dorms from practice facility, from class rooms, from town...

-academic ranking nationally

-coach and team culture (this one was really tough, we liked all the coaches, some more than others, but will that coach still be at that school in three years?) Is my kid a piece of meet because the coach's number one priority is winning a national championship? For this one, and several of the other criteria, i think it is important to talk to some of the current players and their parents. you would be surprised at how open people are--both good and bad

--money offered for athletic scholarship- note every coach told us, yes there is no legal contract, athletic scholarships are year to year, but we guarantee you you will get no less than this percentage all four years. we are smart enough to know that athletic dollars are year to year. do coaches lie? i am sure some do and i am sure some don't. ask the parents of a current player that is not the team stud. they will tell you the truth

--money offered for academics-assuming he maintains gpa of xxx, he will get this amount in academic dollars. note, these academic dollars are more valuable than athletic dollars, not necessarily in terms of percentage, but in terms of the annual renewal. 3.0 in college gpa each year and the academic dollars renew...some schools had no academic dollars for which my kid would qualify

--alumni network--it just means that potentially, you will be more likely to land a job after graduation based upon a strong alumni network, that is the theory anyway

--financial aid- we didn't spend any time on this because my fam can't qualify for aid, while that in and of itself sucks, it means we are lucky in the big picture

I hope this helps someone...


This board can be informative and helpful. The fact that someone took the time to write and then share this is indicative of what this sport once was, not what it has become. Thanks again for sharing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 05:45 PM
He has no hair. Genetics I guess
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 07:41 PM
stay crazy my friends, stay crazy. BTW if you want to see stone cold crazy talk take a peek at the 2025 thread. Its like its their first day on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 08:27 PM
2025 ..they diaper change at half time?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/19/15 08:47 PM
That's because it's the same coach involved in that year and those parents WANT to be crazy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 12:05 PM
The little guy is no way near the other coach. That guy really screams and has meltdowns. He is an embarrassment to his team and the organization.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 12:28 PM
Which Legacy team is that ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Legacy team is that ?


And where did he coach in the past?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 03:14 PM
He told us he wrestled in high school. But never played lacrosse. He tought himself all about lacrosse while coaching Islip PAL lacrosse. Thank God we pay $2000 a year to have him around .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 03:29 PM
He told us he wrestled in high school. And that he never played lacrosse. He taught himself the game by coaching PAL for Islip. Thank God we paid over $2000 a year for this guy .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 03:31 PM
He is the assistant with 2025 2023 and 2020b. He has a kid on each team and all of them would be in trouble without him favoring them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 03:45 PM
Coach Fran is a loud trouble maker who never shuts up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 04:41 PM
I found out his old Islip pal team was in a tournament this weekend at mount Saini and wouldn't let him coach because he is so disliked and the kids are sick of him playing favorites
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 06:30 PM
I bet that is why the Islip kids all left legacy 2025. To get away from this jerk. They may be the smart ones.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 06:30 PM
More and more parents getting fed up the politics and star system looking elsewhere to play, pulling their kids out of the 34 program because some kids tryout, while some make a phone call, some have to commit to only one team while others are free to play for as many as they want, delusional parents who enable their sons convincing him he is a superstar (since grade 4) then said parents become apoplectic when junior doesn't make the middle school A team even though he has been on the town travel A team for years. Demanding the better kids be penalized for not playing for the town - "It's Not Fair!!", people thinking that their kids are entitled special treatment regardless of current ability...I can continue...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole GC program is a shell of what it once was. Youth system in town is broken. Enjoy the banners in the gym we currently have...will be a whole generation before any new ones are raised...


How is it broken? Just curious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 06:45 PM
My son played for Coach Fran on a Legacy team for two years. He is a passionate coach who loves his players. I was under the impression that he played lacrosse at the DIII level in college but that really doesn't matter. My son loved him and I thought that he was fair. He coaches 3 teams because it is expensive to have 3 boys playing travel lacrosse. It is a big commitment and he should be commended for it. It looks like sour grapes from here because he cut your sons playing time. This is travel lacrosse. If you don't perform you don't play so much. Tell your son to work harder and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 07:44 PM
From what I've heard they tried to lock the kids up so they didnt play outside in the summer. Required some commitment from every kid that it would be their priority club. If you agree to it and dont live up to that commitment, then you should be penalized - personally, dont see the big deal there. You dont want to commmit, go play somewhere else. Sounds like the bigger problem is the same as with some other travel clubs - the few parents who think their kids should be treated differently and held to different standards because in their opinion they are better than all the others. They think their kid should be out there every play, and only their kid or a few select others should be allowed to handle the ball or take shots, usually to the detriment of everyone else on the team. The GC program is relatively new, so its tough to say their youth system is broken since there really never was one before. Sounds like they're still figuring it out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 09:50 PM
If everyone is playing by the same ground rules then it is fine. They were not. The biggest beneficiary of this mess will be Chaminade and the rest of the Nassau public schools.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
From what I've heard they tried to lock the kids up so they didnt play outside in the summer. Required some commitment from every kid that it would be their priority club. If you agree to it and dont live up to that commitment, then you should be penalized - personally, dont see the big deal there. You dont want to commmit, go play somewhere else. Sounds like the bigger problem is the same as with some other travel clubs - the few parents who think their kids should be treated differently and held to different standards because in their opinion they are better than all the others. They think their kid should be out there every play, and only their kid or a few select others should be allowed to handle the ball or take shots, usually to the detriment of everyone else on the team. The GC program is relatively new, so its tough to say their youth system is broken since there really never was one before. Sounds like they're still figuring it out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 10:54 PM
What mess? I don't follow that logic... Chaminade?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 11:23 PM
Bluefish A had a good day as well, faced 2 tough teams but still put a fight up as it was their first time playing together. looks like a very well ran and organized team that will be very competitive in the summer. a lot of talent on the team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/20/15 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bluefish A had a good day as well, faced 2 tough teams but still put a fight up as it was their first time playing together. looks like a very well ran and organized team that will be very competitive in the summer. a lot of talent on the team


Good to hear! Some real nice kids on that team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 01:03 PM
As a parent whose son played for Fran how would I see him kiss the directors [lacrosse]? I never saw any of them at a tournament. The boy who played with us was a solid player and one of the best at his position. By making all this noise on an anonymous website what are you teaching your son? To complain when things don't go his way? Tell him to work harder and be the best player that he can be. If he does that no coach can hold him back! Also his boy is one of ten on the field. That leaves nine other spots for your kid. Tell him to go earn one of them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 01:04 PM
He is mentally unstable. I have seen him loose it on more then one occasion whenever his son gets touched or our legacy team falls behind. He is a poor role model and shouldn't be around kids. According to this he knows nothing about lacrosse. Over the past three years I have seen nothing to change my opinion. Legacy should cut their looses and get rid of him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 01:08 PM
I have to agree with the other post. Why are we paying so much and getting this self serving unknowledgeable weak at best coach who takes over every practice we have.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 01:26 PM
The directors are at the tournaments. Smarty and I see him kiss [lacrosse] all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 02:17 PM
Mentally unstable? Who the [lacrosse] are you calling mentally unstable?
You are talking about little "kids" playing a frigin laxrosse game and a dad putting in time with a bunch of amazing kids! You frigin coward piece of crap!
He coaches my 8 year old and is an amazing person! Just because you have a personal issue with someone don't come on here and make up lies! Jealousy is a very sad thing but we are dealing with children and an amazing family!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 02:55 PM
LOL. What a complete joke of a post. Could not be farther from the truth. Bunch of anonymous cowards and losers on this site.

Many options out there. Just choose a different club and go far away.

Or maybe you are already gone and just stirring things up. Either way you need to look at yourself in the mirror everyday. S bag.

Teach your boy to work harder.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 02:58 PM
Putting the guys whole name up anonymously is a cowardly [lacrosse] move. Grow a pair and post YOUR name! The little guy may slap you up in front of your kid and rightfully so! [lacrosse]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 03:09 PM
No actually I am talking about a little snake coach who stole playing time from my kid and paraded his on the field 2weeks ago. He has done this too long with no one even seeing it happen. Now I am bringing the attention to it that it should get. A player shouldn't get taken care of because he is an assistant coaches kid who only does this to get his kid ahead. His behavior on the field have been awful. Fran is not a good role model for young kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 03:22 PM
Yeah seriously guys, take any issues you have with him offline. there are kids involved here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah seriously guys, take any issues you have with him offline. there are kids involved here.


This is beyond ugly now. Speak with the other team parents and approach the club director.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 04:13 PM
Listen to yourself ! Stole playing time from my kid, his kid plays more than my kid so now I'm going to call him unstable and a bad person and then I will post his name so everyone knows who he is! Grow up this is frigin little boy 8yh grade lacrosse! What are you teaching your kid ? Do you think this will blow his college scholarship ? You need to go away and look at the real problems in this world it's just a game and believe me at the high school level if your kid even makes it that far at this rate you will not even be able to communicate with the coach about playing time ! Enjoy your son and his game that he enjoys to play and stop bashing'
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/21/15 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Listen to yourself ! Stole playing time from my kid, his kid plays more than my kid so now I'm going to call him unstable and a bad person and then I will post his name so everyone knows who he is! Grow up this is frigin little boy 8yh grade lacrosse! What are you teaching your kid ? Do you think this will blow his college scholarship ? You need to go away and look at the real problems in this world it's just a game and believe me at the high school level if your kid even makes it that far at this rate you will not even be able to communicate with the coach about playing time ! Enjoy your son and his game that he enjoys to play and stop bashing'


I have said this time and time again. This is not just a game for kids - It is a business.

You lose the "its just a game" when parents are paying thousands of dollars. As far as blowing up a site with these comments. Some people know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em, know when to walk away and when to run. These days people know when to blog'em on sites like this.

If you are feeling crossed enough to blog away Id say run. It is tough having or being on a 2nd team behind a good team. What I don't get isnt there other coaches. If its that the Ravage team, I thought they were a good team coached by East Islip guys who have sons on the team. I doubt they would let that happen. or did they finally let them on Team Taz.

Lets not rush to judgment on either side but when there is smoke there is fire.
I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 01:28 AM
Love reading the dysfunction that is STRONG ISLAND.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 02:20 AM
Ravage
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 02:51 AM
Originally Posted by anonomous
I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...


Only kids...adults are fair game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 05:06 PM
Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mentally unstable? Who the [lacrosse] are you calling mentally unstable?
You are talking about little "kids" playing a frigin laxrosse game and a dad putting in time with a bunch of amazing kids! You frigin coward piece of crap!
He coaches my 8 year old and is an amazing person! Just because you have a personal issue with someone don't come on here and make up lies! Jealousy is a very sad thing but we are dealing with children and an amazing family!


I'd call this mentally unstable...LOL
Originally Posted by anonomous
I was under impression that bashing folks by name on this site was verboten?...


I don't care if you guys bash each other, coaches, parents, trainers.. You are so called adults and can defend yourselves.. just leave the kids out of it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/22/15 07:08 PM
Don Mattingly sucks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 12:23 AM
Who put this all together????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 12:24 PM
Potvin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Potvin


Potvin sucks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.


That is quite a bit of talent. Wouldn't be surprised if a college coach or two takes a look.

Well done to these teams for coordinating.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 03:46 PM
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
So What! 1 1/2 good teams in this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 04:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

Know its 2020 thread but any word on 2021 games?

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 04:25 PM
Hah, right, let's talk about only 2 teams. Great thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
10/31 lineup
9am
Igloo 2020 Madlax 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Koopers 2020
Dukes 2020 Leading Edge 2020

11am
Igloo 2020 Dukes 2020
Sweetlax 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Koopers 2020 Madlax 2020

1pm
Koopers 2020 Leading Edge 2020
Dukes 2020 Madlax 2020
Igloo 2020 Sweetlax 2020


what tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 07:20 PM
Eligibility Rules - United States Teams
1.All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002.
2.All players must be in the Class of 2021 or later.
3.All players must compete with their team on a regular basis. Players can not be added only to participate in the World Series.
4.No player may compete, or be rostered, on more than one team during the tournament.
5.All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program.
6.All teams must carry between 18-24 players.
7.All players will be required to provide a copy of their birth certificate, proof of residency (report card or school identification card) and verification of health insurance that is accepted in the United States.
8.All players must participate with their team/program on a regular basis. Players are not to be added only for the World Series.
9.Any team in violation of the above roster rules will forfeit all games in which the ineligible player has participated, forfeit any opportunity to advance to the playoffs and forfeit any accolades or titles received by the team.

Eligibility Rules - Canadian Teams
1.All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002.
2.No player may compete, or be rostered, on more than one team during the tournament.
3.All players must reside within 200 miles of the home field of their program.
These are the rules for the World Series of lacrosse please for future reference note that teams from Canada because of our education system have very different circumstances than in America. This has not only been identified by the folks who run the world series but also by adrenaline lacrosse. So when our boy tell your boys they are in what appears to be a grade later they are in fact still the same age. I can't believe the commentary and criticism we recvd this summer at both the Crabs YG event but also the NSCLA event in Hershey.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/23/15 11:22 PM
Why no Crush?? Afraid of Looney's??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nice slate of games set for Hill School play day. Nov. 1. I'll post scores if I can grab them all.

9am FCA vs Express Sons vs 91md

10am Looney's vs Mesa Legacy vs Hawks

11am Sons vs Express FCA vs 91md

12pm Looney's vs legacy Hawks vs Mesa

1pm open 91md vs Express

2pm Legacy vs Mesa Looney's vs Hawks

3pm Sons vs FCA open

BTW, Crabs and Looney's had planned an NLF event that collapsed.


I know its early but is there a chance there will be college coaches there?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 02:27 AM
This is not a Looney parent talking but someone stirring the pot. Because as a looney parent until someone in 2020 beats Crush they are exempt from that talk. We thought we had them once but they are by far the head of the 2020 class til proven otherwise Much respect from Maryland
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is not a Looney parent talking but someone stirring the pot. Because as a looney parent until someone in 2020 beats Crush they are exempt from that talk. We thought we had them once but they are by far the head of the 2020 class til proven otherwise Much respect from Maryland

In the next two years the top teams from DMV, Pa and MA will all beat Crush. That weird thing will happen where those teams will become soooo much better, stronger and faster... Hmmmm, How come the LI kids don't grow like that??? Oh wait, maybe it has something thing to do with the 2019's and 2018's that will be playing 2020. Nah, those other teams will just "catch up". I love that one.... Too funny.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 12:16 PM
Interesting that crabs is nowhere to be seen in this play date. Afraid me thinks - or maybe his 2020s have drivers ed, have to work or are taking the SAT that weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting that crabs is nowhere to be seen in this play date. Afraid me thinks - or maybe his 2020s have drivers ed, have to work or are taking the SAT that weekend.


There's that or maybe the other teams are just tired of dealing with the Crab's blatant lack of respect for sportsmanship and their attitude that it is okay to do anything to win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 06:37 PM
In response to your post regarding the Legacy coach, your information is completely inaccurate. (In addition, your grammar is deplorable!) This coach played lacrosse in high school, played lacrosse in college on an athletic scholarship for lacrosse, and continues to play as an adult today. It is a shame you felt the need to hide behind the "anonymous" label but felt it appropriate to post another person's name. This action speaks more to your character than his. I will proudly sign my name to this post, Erik Lopez
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/24/15 09:36 PM
Not sure what I missed but this post is absolutely ridiculous. The coach is one of the most knowledgable people that I have been around regarding lacrosse and more so coaching kids in my 20 plus years around the game.Any kid that has ever played for him smiles every time they hear his booming voice because they know how he is and he is smiling under the beard. The guy loves kids and knows how to motivate them. My son loves the guy and athe coach treats him like his own kid. My son told us if we ever moved he wants to go to islip so he can play for him all the time.For now we gladly drive more than an hour each practice to play for him and 3 other great coaches. John Cuozzo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/25/15 01:35 AM
The roster size says it all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/25/15 04:53 AM
Thanks John and Erik!

The check is in the mail,

Love Coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/25/15 03:57 PM
No problem. Sorry your kids are not playing with us anymore. I figured you would take a higher road then attack a good guy like you chose to do. Especially since I honestly thought your son was related to him by the way he and the rest of the coaching staff treated him. I realize now it wasn't just my kid or yours,that they treated every kid the same way. I am guessing you are realizing now that you are playing elsewhere. John
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 11:10 AM
How did 2020 teams do at Blatant yesterday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 11:11 AM
How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.


North won it. Leghart went 1-2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 12:15 PM
Express North beat Manhasset in the final 7-6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 12:54 PM
A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.


North won it. Leghart went 1-2.


Was that the same north that was bea1 19-0 by Legacy? Outlaws went 0-3?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did the teams do at Blatant? Heard express did well.


North won it. Leghart went 1-2.


Was that the same north that was bea1 19-0 by Legacy? Outlaws went 0-3?


Not the same team. Legacy beat the B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:12 PM
No different team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?


It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?


It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.


And this special select team lost to Express north?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A 'pick up' team came within a goal of winning the bracket? Who was playing for Manhasset, Terps kids?


It really is not a pick-up team in the traditional meaning of that term. Rather, the team was made up of top kids who have been playing together since 2nd grade on PAL, 32, Terps and/or fl$. They may have been wearing a different uniform yesterday, but the kids are largely the same. All good players who have been playing as a group for years. I promise you the coaches did not go down to the local playground and assemble a rag tag group of random kids.


And this special select team lost to Express north?


This special select team is a town team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 01:48 PM
Manhasset was a really good team and very well coached. A lot of very talented players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset was a really good team and very well coached. A lot of very talented players.


I watched mist of that game. That Manhasset team was a good team. If they came within a goal of the express north team, they have nothing to be ashamed about. I dare to say that the express north team had several kids that looked as if they belonged in the 2019 age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 02:50 PM
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 02:53 PM
Are you saying North brought some ringers for the final game ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you saying North brought some ringers for the final game ?


Also interesting that the 6'2 middie had the same uniform number as the goalie for North
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:05 PM
No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:09 PM
Not at all just stating a few facts from people who played them earlier in the day. If your part of Express North than you know the facts. Either way great game and welcome the competition. Merely a response to the moron who was stating " a select team " lost to Express North.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:18 PM
Stop crying about losing. You are embarrassing yourself with the excuses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.


Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:38 PM
Whose crying Dbag ? You didn't read the post ? It was all I response to moron who posed that a select team that lost to Express North. It was great one point game played by both teams. Period !!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.


Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."


The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 04:04 PM
Thanks coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.


Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."


The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)


No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 04:25 PM
I have an idea. Before anyone posts anything on here you should read the Team Sean link and realize what is important in life. If after reading you still feel the need to post then have at it. But at least take the time to think about it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 04:49 PM
Do we expect any less from Manhasset daddies.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.


Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."


The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)


No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.


Exactly!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 05:04 PM
I was on the sideline for two of the games and the Manhasset parents were totally fine. A good day of lacrosse that unfortunately gets tainted by this back and forth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.


I forgot that catholic high schools play on Sunday
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No ringers, the starting goalie and a defensive player showed up for the last 3 minutes of the first game due to football. The same team that played in game one played in game four with the above exception.


I forgot that catholic high schools play on Sunday


I don't understand the controversy regarding the Manhasset team, the tourney or the Express North team. It was a great day of lax, very competitive games across the 2020 North division and a great final game. There wasn't any arguing on the sidelines, no cheap hits or obnoxious coaching and the score was close. Plus we got to stay home for the weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 06:01 PM
Completely agree! A very competative bracket and some great lacrosse was played. It was an exciting championship game and all of the boys worked very hard. It could have easily gone either way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hey dbag...That "special select team" your taking about beat that North team by four in the first game before some nice add ons for the championship game which nobody over here is complaining about over here. The goalie made some incredible saves or your $3,000 club team loses twice too a banged up town team !!!! Look forward to your eloquent response.


Town team my a$$. This Set 2020 extra team was in addition to the $3500 or so all the kids pay for Terps and fl$. Stop acting like it was PAL

P.S. You gave us a good run in the final game, but if I heard correctly on the sidelines you had at least two kids who dont even live in Manhasset. So not really a pure "town team."


The Set 2020 team was the Manhasset PAL team plus two kids from Port Washington (neighboring town), because 4+ kids from our town team were unable to play due to injuries. The Set 2020 team went 3-1 and lost to a solid Express North Team 7-6 in the finals after beating them earlier in the day. No excuses (except for the fact that a few Express North kids wouldn't be able to play under US Lacrosse Age guidelines, in particular, their best middie)


No other 8th graders in Manhasset were available? Stop it. This was an invitation only team and you went outside to try to add more quality club team players so you could try to win the tournament and then brag that you did so despite only being a "town team." I doubt every 8th grader in the Manhasset PAL program got an email offering them the chance to play. At least own it.


Exactly!


Good point, the two players from PW were excellent additions and there were likely many other 8th graders from Manhasset available but weren't invited to play as this team isn't affiliated with PAL or the Manhasset32 club. Stay classy everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 07:13 PM
why does everyone care so much when people do this? I don't get it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 07:31 PM
The one disappointment yesterday was hearing the LI Express head coach (not North) berating his players with the f-word and telling all the middies they "suck"! Not a great way to motivate players, let alone kids!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 07:45 PM
When people do what??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 07:49 PM
put a team together to play in a tournament, have you been reading?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 08:16 PM
I wish my town had enough talent to beat a handful of travel teams Not to mention a few dads who are knowledgeable enough to be good coaches, but willing to donate the time it takes to get to that level. Hats off to the boys from manhasset
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish my town had enough talent to beat a handful of travel teams Not to mention a few dads who are knowledgeable enough to be good coaches, but willing to donate the time it takes to get to that level. Hats off to the boys from manhasset


You forgot to thank the boys from Port, and who knows where else. Please, they lost! And it was a B level tourney to boot!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
put a team together to play in a tournament, have you been reading?


It doesn't say this team was put together for this tournament. Looks like boys played on 32 together and now play on Set 2020. Apparently both out of Manhasset.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 09:55 PM
just looked at the scores of the 2020 north on tourney machine, all games ended within 4 or so goals. I don't care who was playing, that looks like a great day of lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 10:06 PM
Coach Fran is a passionate and dedicated coach. The boys like him and we have never seen him be unfair to any player. Stop being a coward on an anonymous website. Teach your son to work harder so YOU dont have to complain online.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/26/15 10:18 PM
If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 01:27 AM
I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?


You heard correctly. He is not a good role model.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I did hear the Express "B" coach, f-bomb and tell his Middies they sucked. Why is this even remotely tolerated or defended?


It's the catholic school way i guess
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.


Little Johnny doesn’t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 01:27 PM
Is it an issue that pick up teams play local tournaments?

That is a great question, some may say these tournaments are B tournaments for B teams. Others may say why not get a group of boys who don't necessarily play travel together get together and play.

I love the aspect another group just put out a tournament series for B teams. This tells those "pick up" teams this isn't for you.



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.


Little Johnny doesn’t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

HAHAHA Just TRY and contain the jealousy, just try

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 07:31 PM
Manhasset has no rivals!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 08:44 PM
Watched last 2 games of tournament . Not sure if it was this group .Was impressed by Manhassett against Express . One kid from Manahasset was lights out. There plenty of balls on the end line and a kid feeding them in that helped Manahasset get an shot or 2 in before game expired . Refs were in place and make good calls from what I saw. watched other Express play Team 38? In last game. That Express coach was a little over the line for me. Was very critical of a few of his players at the end and probably caused them to shut down at the end.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 10:51 PM
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your an adult your a serious tool !!! You must be from GC or some other Manhasset rival. Wasn't even there and can't believe what idiotic posts coming in. Where did your little Johnny play this weekend ? Or did he at all. Some quality fall lacrosse played from what it seems and haven't seen one excuse for losing. It's meatheads like you giving Long Island lax a bad name.


Little Johnny doesn’t play b tournaments where select teams masquerade as "town" teams

HAHAHA Just TRY and contain the jealousy, just try



Jealousy of a loser?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/27/15 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 12:17 AM
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 01:43 AM
They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 02:03 AM
Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 02:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?


If that were the case Rising sons def couldn't play. Average age 16
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Age limits, both Crush and Crabs don't qualify now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are 1 and 2. The rest play for third place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?


Everyone knows about crabs, now crush has holdbacks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?


Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?


Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.


LOL. You can keep saying that, but college recruiters are all over the talent on the Crabs 2020 team. They will be dominant this year.

You can't hate them or hate losing to them, but saying "nobody cares about them" shows your ignorance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 12:44 PM
Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 01:01 PM
I'm from CSH, a Manhasset rival, and I like just about every parent and kid I've met from there. Haters hate...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!


May I suggest decaf for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. Would have like to see Looneys play the Rising Sons though. Otherwise great match ups all around.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams in the rising sons tournament are some of the best which should make it a great Sunday for lacrosse


Is there any reason crush and crabs aren't in it?


Everyone knows where they stand WRT to Crush, and Crabs are loaded with holdbacks - not really a true 2020 team - so nobody cares about them.


LOL. You can keep saying that, but college recruiters are all over the talent on the Crabs 2020 team. They will be dominant this year.

Why aren't they at the Hill this weekend

You can't hate them or hate losing to them, but saying "nobody cares about them" shows your ignorance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 03:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!
Whew, I guess that settles it and makes it ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Everyone has to get over the holdback thing, every team has them and UNTIL US LACROSSE changes there view on AGE it will continue to happen. GET OVER IT !!!!!!!!!!!
Whew, I guess that settles it and makes it ok.

It does make it OK. No one is breaking rules. You just don't agree with the rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 04:24 PM
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 05:10 PM
why does everyone hate them equate to not having rivals? Don't the red sox hate their biggest rival, Cardinals hate their biggest rival..so on
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.
Comparing college players to high schoolers and middle schoolers? Funny post, well done!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 05:29 PM


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but
no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change. [/quote]

Horrible analogy, is freshman plays against senior it's because he is good enough to do so! However, 15 or 16 years olds playing against 14 year olds in clubs lax is not! These teams are not school teams and shouldn't be treated as they are!

Playing up is not an issue, however playing down is and it kills the spirit of competition!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.


No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.


No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.


Why is it so important for you to compare your 13 year old to someone else's kid? You should be focused on whether your kid is getting better and having a positive experience.

What are holdbacks cheating at? Not college recruiting. The reality is by word or deed the d1 college coaches have endorsed holding boys back and know the boys are older. Bottom line, the coaches and the NCAA set the rules for recruiting and holdbacks are encouraged.

Are holdbacks cheating at youth lacrosse? That answer is subjective given no firm age requirements. If your son is really D1 material if held back it would seem like you should have the decency to play him with his age group/normal grade until he hits high school. The better competition would do him good.

A summer birthday who is average and wants to play with his friends in his grade? I really don't have a problem with that.

Originally club lacrosse was a way to improve for your high school team and maybe to get recruited for college. The emphasis was supposed to be on improving the players with a secondary interest in winning. In that model, players play up rather than down because they are focused on getting better.

The focus now is on the glory and economic benefit of the club. Players will now play with younger kids to the detriment of their own development so that the club can win and the club's parents can claim they have the best 8th grade lacrosse team in their city, state, nation etc.

I haven't and won't holdback my kids because it wouldn't be academically appropriate but I don't have a problem with parents who would make that decision. I only hope that they would insist on playing their son at his normal grade for his benefit rather than let a club director push their son down so the club director can claim more victories.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:51 PM
Youth Sports should not be based on what college D 1 coaches are looking for.

Youth sports are for kids to learn how to compete, work with teammates, win with dignity, and lose with respect. Kids playing club lacrosse at the youth levels, elementary school and middle school should not be playing against older kids.

This whole graduation year based team format should have never come around for youth sports, middle school, or even high school age kids. If college coaches want to come and recruit they can go to any one of the high school teams and start looking at players just as a duo and many other sports
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People are stating things are okay because there are no rules... and that makes it okay.

Please review the definitions of cheat! One does not need to break rules to be a cheater! Although it generally occurs it is not a prerequisite.



Cheating is the getting of a reward for ability by dishonest means or finding an easy way out of an unpleasant situation. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation. .... The rules infringed may be explicit, or they may be from an unwritten code of conduct based on morality, ethics or custom, making the identification of cheating conduct a potentially subjective process. ... A person described as a "cheat" doesn't necessarily cheat all the time, but rather, relies on unfair tactics to the point of acquiring a reputation for it.[2]


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.


No I don't think it has been beaten to death.

I also don't agree with you; I see it fair that freshman play against Sr's. why, because they are identified as such. The objectivity is known; it is Younger vs Older.

When playing in a class/grade based system you no longer have the objective nature which allows you compare things equally. Instead, you are intentionally hiding the objective nature that would make one better then the next. Sure some tournaments identify the DOB - most don't.


I guess I should have been more clear - I wasn't looking for opinions on whether or not anyone thinks it has been beaten to death (although it has - look through any thread on this forum). Again, until the official rules actually change, you play grade based and get what you get, and your kids get more skilled because they are playing older boys. I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Enough already - this has been beaten to death and then some across every thread in the forum. The rules are what they are, and people are going to follow the rules. It's probably not "fair" for a freshman to play against seniors in HS or College lax either, but
no one cries about that. This is no different unless the rules actually change.


Horrible analogy, is freshman plays against senior it's because he is good enough to do so! However, 15 or 16 years olds playing against 14 year olds in clubs lax is not! These teams are not school teams and shouldn't be treated as they are!

Playing up is not an issue, however playing down is and it kills the spirit of competition![/quote]

OK - so let's go with that logic. Good size 14 year old playing against average sized 15 or 16 year old - definitely a maturity and physical difference, for certain. But, a 15 year old freshman playing with an 18 year old senior - no difference there?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.


How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.


How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.

Wow! Lawyers and insurance companies? Lobbying? For what? To change to outcome of some tournament and who gets the T-shirt. It won't change anything with recruiting because that particular holdback will still be graduating and moving on to college in the year he is in school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I completely disagree with holdbacks, but the constant complaining - which affects change not one bit - is ridiculous.


How will it ever change if no one complains? For change to happen it will take an effort from parents against the clubs. Clubs already have too much power. There needs to be a broad consensus among parents for anyone to act. Airing those beliefs here is one small step in building that consensus.

If you want change lobby the insurance company (Bollinger) who cover all the kids through the US Lax membership. Ultimately, lawyers will bring resolution on this issue.

Wow! Lawyers and insurance companies? Lobbying? For what? To change to outcome of some tournament and who gets the T-shirt. It won't change anything with recruiting because that particular holdback will still be graduating and moving on to college in the year he is in school.


If these tournaments don't get insured things will change.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 01:52 PM
What fall tournaments is Crush 2020 playing in? Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 02:34 PM
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


Come on here we go. The best player in 2020 DOB is Spring 2002. No NY team should have a best player in 2020 should be a 2001 player. Go ahead tell me 12/2001 is legit (yeah it is). Don't tell me 9/10/11 if so he is a holdback. Go ahead tell me he may be from Ct, read up on what Ct is doing about those hold backs.

You opened the can of worms... what is the DOB of this fictional player, no need for date how about the month!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What fall tournaments is Crush 2020 playing in? Thanks.


Only one I know of is they were invited to play in Terp classic a 2019 event run by University of Maryland Other than that I am not sure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.


Just because LI does school that way?? You do realize that 90% of the country bases starting school on your age on 9/1? Maybe LI should get with the times and stop bitching about the fall birthday kids in MD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:58 PM
Not true if born after 12/6/2201 you are a legit 8th grader. Anyone born before that cut off date is a hold back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


My son who is born in February 2002 is a legit 2020. Any kid born in 2001 should be 2019. Period. End of story.


This isn't hard. The educational cut-off in New [lacrosse] State is 12/1. If you are born before that date you should be in 9th grade right now. And if you are in 9th grade you should be on the 2019 team, not 2020.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 06:05 PM
School year is Dec 1st
Thererfore a child born in Dec 2001 is completerly legit! Is for football & soccer too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.


Yeah and don't be misled into thinking only MD, etc. put holdbacks on their teams. Express, fl$, Legacy all have plenty of kids who should be in 9th grade right now. There is a reason the LI club owners aren't screaming about the unfairness of holdbacks: they don't have clean hands themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 11:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express North's "best middie" was born after 6/1/01! He's a legit 2020!


June 1 is not a cut off date. If he was born in June 2001 he is a 9th grader. Period. Keep trying to convice yourself otherwise so you can come to terms with little Johnny having to play down to compete.


Yeah and don't be misled into thinking only MD, etc. put holdbacks on their teams. Express, fl$, Legacy all have plenty of kids who should be in 9th grade right now. There is a reason the LI club owners aren't screaming about the unfairness of holdbacks: they don't have clean hands themselves.


First you need to define holdback. If it's someone repeating 8th grade, I believe Express and Legacy have one. Don't believe any on fl$.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:53 AM
If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.


If he's not a hold back, what is he? A weasel, a cheating loser, a mediocre kid trying a last ditch effort to use smoke and mirrors to look better than he really is? Whatever it is its pathetic!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 12:53 PM
It's safe to conclude that USL is a toothless organization with no true intention of addressing the holdback epidemic. Quite simply, anything they perceive to restrict the growth of the sport, will not be touched. Sad, but true. In the meantime, one thing that can be done, is for teams to list the birth month and year for their players. Obviously no names, just, for example: 2 boys 8/01, 4 boys 10/01, etc. Clearly there will be teams that are willing, though most probably not. But at least we can call them out on it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:17 PM
Pretty funny how you guys spend hours agonizing about reclassed kids. Pretty sure your alma mater has reclassed kids on their football and basketball teams, and it didn't bother you then.

Keep crying. Meanwhile, our kids will keep committing to D1 programs. LOL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:45 PM
Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:52 PM
Holding back for lacrosse don't get it, basketball/football absolutely and it is the norm.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.


DeMatha?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?


Thank you, and no, you are not missing something. We are generally good people who respect the game and our competition. The fact that we put a good product on the field garners a certain level of jealousy, which is frequently accompanied by negative commentary and accusations. Thank you for your kind words; an unfortunately rare occurrence on this site.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If a kid is born before 12/01 he should be in 9th grade and playing on a 2019 team. I agree the major clubs have many older kids on their rosters. I disagree that only by repeating 8th grade is a kid considered a holdback.


Only holds true for ny who still use 12/1 as a school cut off. The majority of states switched to 9/1 many years ago so fall birthdays elsewhere are not holdbacks and ny is noto the norm and can not expect policy to be set based on their dates. That is why aged based guidelines use 8/31 as a cut off. If you are going to play outside of your state you can not shout foul.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.


Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.

Also:

1. Do you know how few college kids make it to the NBA or NFL? Those reclassed college kids at your alma mater are not playing professionally.

2. Love your carport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Gotta be a crabs parent - because no one in their right mind could actually think holding kids back to gain an edge is good for this sport or any other. Meanwhile your teaching your kids to game the system because they weren't talented enough to compete against kids their own age.

The kids that reclassified at my alma mater are now in the NFL and NBA - your kids are working at lax world. Congratulations.


Douchy response by Mr Crab for sure, But are you saying it's ok to "game the system" as long as you end up with lucrative pro sports career?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:52 PM
Not saying it's OK. I think it is wrong. However, at least I get the point that there is potentially a lucrative career at the end of the rainbow. There is no pot of gold for lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?


Thank you, and no, you are not missing something. We are generally good people who respect the game and our competition. The fact that we put a good product on the field garners a certain level of jealousy, which is frequently accompanied by negative commentary and accusations. Thank you for your kind words; an unfortunately rare occurrence on this site.


Others may disagree that you "respect the game" by stacking a team with club team players, holdbacks and kids from other towns and then trying to pass it off as just an ordinary PAL team. That "good product" was fairly dishonest and yet you cannot help congratulating yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not saying it's OK. I think it is wrong. However, at least I get the point that there is potentially a lucrative career at the end of the rainbow. There is no pot of gold for lacrosse.


pro nfl nba careers are a pipe dream even for most top high schoolers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 03:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.


Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 04:33 PM
'20 Towns in nassau
1. Manhasset
2. CSH
Big Drop
3. Port Washington
4. GC
Big Drop
5. Long Beach/Massapequ/Farmingdale

Suffolk
1. Islip
2. Smithtown (though they will drop as its 2 highschools combined for one town team right now)
3. Three Village/Ward Melville
4. Huntington
5. West Islip



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:09 PM
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:09 PM
Agree with Nassau, though I thought CSH was better when we played them. Got to have SWR in the suffolk conversation though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.


Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.




My son doesn't play for the Crabs, buddy. As you said, the Crabs have reclassed kids, as do many clubs. My point is that anytime a team has some big kids, LI dads start complaining about reclassification.

Get over it. You may not like it, but they've decided to go grade based with youth teams and it's not going to go back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pretty funny how you guys spend hours agonizing about reclassed kids. Pretty sure your alma mater has reclassed kids on their football and basketball teams, and it didn't bother you then.

Keep crying. Meanwhile, our kids will keep committing to D1 programs. LOL.


kids playing up or down in High isn't the issue, it has been done since sports were introduced into high school. Kids playing down on youth teams is the issue. Leave all the reclass stuff in high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:53 PM
I would guess that almost half of the private school kids that play lacrosse for the elite club teams in the Baltimore and DC area are holdbacks. Probably 30% to 50% of the rosters for teams like the Crabs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


My son doesn't play for the Crabs, buddy. As you said, the Crabs have reclassed kids, as do many clubs. My point is that anytime a team has some big kids, LI dads start complaining about reclassification.

Get over it. You may not like it, but they've decided to go grade based with youth teams and it's not going to go back.


It's not just LI parents complaining about reclass kids. It's VA, DC, MD parents as well.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
'20 Towns in nassau
1. Manhasset
2. CSH
Big Drop
3. Port Washington
4. GC
Big Drop
5. Long Beach/Massapequ/Farmingdale

Suffolk
1. Islip
2. Smithtown (though they will drop as its 2 highschools combined for one town team right now)
3. Three Village/Ward Melville
4. Huntington
5. West Islip




Islip? You on drugs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.


Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.



I also heard that people from Garden City and Cold Spring Harbour are nice and good at lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 04:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, buddy. My son is not a reclassed kid, nor are there any on his team. But we have a lot of big kids and we win, so we always get LI parents crying and mumbling after they lose to us.


Seriously, stop with the bullsh*t. If your son plays on the Crabs 2020 team, HE many not be reclassed but there are several that are. This comes straight from Ryan's mouth. Some are indeed on age and just big; others are absolutely reclass. My son also played with several of them boys at Top Prospects; knows them and knows their grade.

So stop pretending - just own it. Crabs has holdbacks. So do a lot of other teams. Don't agree with it, but that is the state of youth lacrosse at this point in time.

Personally, I'd laugh at my son if he asked to reclass. Lacrosse is fun, it's great, I grew up playing myself. But dominating 8th graders proves nothing. Enjoy the season and see you this spring in the NPYLL.



I also heard that people from Garden City and Cold Spring Harbour are nice and good at lacrosse.


Two great towns with quality parents and kids. Love playing against them because there's never drama on the field or sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Manhasset has no rivals!


Because everyone hates them.


why does everyone hate them?


Maybe in Lacrosse because they claim to be a Town only (with a few exceptions, oops) team and then lie about the "visitors" and the holdbacks and then claim to be the worlds greatest travel/town teams.

Why people hate Manhasset in general is a list that is way too long for this board!


I'm not from Long Island but have met a number of parents and adults from Manhasset, they all seem to be much more normal than the rest of the long island parents/kids that we encounter when you come down to MD in the summer. Are we missing something?


On a whole, very smart, wealthy people in that town. They are extremely adept at giving you a great impression. You'll never see their true thoughts or feelings on anything, way too polished to allow that to happen. Trust me, they'll have you figured out 9 ways to Tuesday inside of a 5 minute conversation. You on the other hand will walk away saying "what nice people". Have you ever heard the expression? "Pulling the wool over your eyes"... Garden City folks cut from the same cloth, Cold Spring similar, but to a lesser degree. I know that sounds cold, but to a great extent, I think it's on point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 01:23 PM
Looneys schedule is weak.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily


They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily


They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.


It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 08:19 PM
You are an idiot. When your son is in HS and you (not him) finally grows up, you'll realize that it's about getting better and having fun. Nobody cares who wins these games. It's fun to win, but that's not the point, Dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 08:19 PM
I think their playing Sons next week so i'm sure thats why their not playing them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looneys schedule is weak.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 11:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 11:54 PM
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 12:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!


And don't forget the team who goes undefeated will be blasted for having more hold backs then the other teams in this forum for about 2 months.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Do you want some cheese with that wine?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 04:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Yes, a bunch of self centered, self entitled, egotistic parents will make excuses why their son (between the ages of 14-16) didn't go undefeated. They will then proceed to complain that their son wasn't given a participation award!


And don't forget the team who goes undefeated will be blasted for having more hold backs then the other teams in this forum for about 2 months.


beach lax still gets brought up from time to time...so longer than 2 months.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good


Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 06:26 AM
The kids do not feel the need to cheat - the parents do! The kids do not make the decision to pay for another year of private schooling at $15,000 to $30,000. This is all about parent ego's. Little Johnny plays for Boys Latin or Georgetown Prep. Little Johnny is going to play D1! I cannot wait to tell everyone at the country club on Sunday that little Johnny is a stud among his peers. Thank god not everyone can afford to reclassify! I hope it was worth it!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 07:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good


Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.


No one is crying- they are just pointing out that some kids need to play with younger kids and some can play with proper age and some will play with older kids. It's very much like academics- the brightest and best take AP, the solid kids work hard and stay the course, most often end on a solid successful path, and the strugglers are left back so they too can meet with success on their new level. No difference really at all. True talent doesn't need to play down, it's the need to pretend, work the system and ego that drives a parent to alter their kids ACADEMIC path to meet success in lacrosse. In the end maybe the kid is successful and gets into a better school, but can they compete academically? Will they ride the bench when their younger counterparts catch up in strength , speed and height? Quite a gamble and it will only pay off for some. Just remember, the holdback may get to a DI but many of their peers did so without having to do so. Maybe it's not cheating according to the lack of rules, but it is sad and desperate to feel the need to do so, especially considering there is little pay off, in the end. I hope those holdbacks are strong enough not to get beat by their younger, possibly smaller counterparts- it'll make them look far worse than if they stayed with their peers and got beat. Lots of unneeded pressure placed on a kid for no pot of gold at the end. Sad state of affairs... Talent doesn't need to play down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:46 AM
The fact is that there WILL be 14-16 year olds playing against 13 year olds this weekend. My concern over holdbacks is not an excuse for when my team loses to a bunch of post-pubescent young men. I could care less who wins some meaningless game the day after Halloween. I do care that my son and his team teammates are not severely injured by a kid who actually should be playing on a 2019 or 18 team. Reclassification may not be breaking the rules - BUT - it certainly is lacking in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 10:04 AM
Personally, I really do believe that they majority of "top" teams have PLENTY of kids that have birthdays before 9/1. And in my mind, if you have a birthday before 9/1 you are a hold back. It doesn't matter if you have been held back before K or during Junior High, you are still a hold back. The point is, at this age the advantage does go to the older kids. We won't know for a few years if they are actually better, or if they look like a stud now because they are older. My son plays on a top team and it is loaded with "hold backs" most started school late, only a few have repeated 8th, but they are all the same. For 2020s you should be born after 8/31/01. If you are born before that, you are a hold back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 12:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that you think some of the 8th graders this weekend are 16 shows how desperate you are to blame a loss on unfair factors.


Unfortunately for the sport, some of them are. Casts an ugly shadow on lacrosse that some kids feel the need to cheat to make themselves look good


Except no rules are being broken, so no cheating has occurred. Keep crying.


No one is crying- they are just pointing out that some kids need to play with younger kids and some can play with proper age and some will play with older kids. It's very much like academics- the brightest and best take AP, the solid kids work hard and stay the course, most often end on a solid successful path, and the strugglers are left back so they too can meet with success on their new level. No difference really at all. True talent doesn't need to play down, it's the need to pretend, work the system and ego that drives a parent to alter their kids ACADEMIC path to meet success in lacrosse. In the end maybe the kid is successful and gets into a better school, but can they compete academically? Will they ride the bench when their younger counterparts catch up in strength , speed and height? Quite a gamble and it will only pay off for some. Just remember, the holdback may get to a DI but many of their peers did so without having to do so. Maybe it's not cheating according to the lack of rules, but it is sad and desperate to feel the need to do so, especially considering there is little pay off, in the end. I hope those holdbacks are strong enough not to get beat by their younger, possibly smaller counterparts- it'll make them look far worse than if they stayed with their peers and got beat. Lots of unneeded pressure placed on a kid for no pot of gold at the end. Sad state of affairs... Talent doesn't need to play down.


Desperate is right! Seen some older kids cry like little babies when they get smoked by by legit age kids. I want to say I feel bad for the kid a little but superglad to see the upset parent try to comfort their son who is now just know a cheating loser that they created! Keep cheating, we'll keep laughing! Not worried about this for my son, just shake my head in disgust that parent would stoop so low. This is why people from other countries hate Americans. This exact type of cheating behavior in all aspects of some people's lives. SAD!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily


They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.


It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!


Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily


They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.


It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!


Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.


True, but everything counts. People will be looking for the stand out teams and players today. There will be lots of chatter later today about team performance, like it or not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Predictions for this weekend @ The Hill School?


Looneys will beat all easily


They are not playing all the teams attending so this may be difficult. It is a play day; not a tournament. Objective is to allow some of the best 2020s to try out their new teams -some have signicant changes so a good test run. Let's not make it more than it is Looneys.


It's a tournament, everyone will be watching to see who goes undefeated. Can't wait to see scores! Sounds like someone is making excuses before they even set foot on the field!


Is it so hard for you to believe that something is not about a trophy and claiming to be a winner? Must be the late to the PLAY DAY Team because their tournament fell through. It was conceived by a handful of teams invited by Rising Sons as an informal play day, the waiver says Play day and all communications from the original teams say Play Day. Relax uber competitive dad, you will have plenty of tournaments to brag about but this is not one of them - there will be no champion crowned for these 13 and 14 year olds today who just want to play the game at a high level and not be labelled by their parents as winners or losers.


True, but everything counts. People will be looking for the stand out teams and players today. There will be lots of chatter later today about team performance, like it or not.



Never said there would not be chatter but your facts were wrong and there is a big difference between the two. Looneys and FCA were both scheduled at different venues this weekend and asked to come to this play day -all are great teams to be there but do not ruin it by making it more than it is. Play days are often better for the teams and the boys due to limited entry of teams of the same caliber and costs are lower. In the end, most of the boys just want to play high level lacrosse and the uber competitive parents are ruining it for them always wanting a winner and loser and as most know who are familiar with the recruiting it is not about who wins. Just let them play the game they love and stop making it about you and bragging rights.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 02:28 PM
Crabs will win the play day
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 05:40 PM
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.


Must mean your son's team is loosing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.


Must mean your son's team is loosing.


No, he is not "loosing" anything today, but thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.


Sorry your son couldn't make any of the teams playing in the play day. If he keeps working hard and the opposite of what you say, he may have a chance someday, he is a good kid! His father is the reason he isn't on one of the top teams!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


The degree to which you (and others) are breathlessly awaiting the results of a Fall play day is a little strange.....just saying.


Why is it strange to want to see how the teams/players did today? After all these boys are entering their recruiting year, and this is a lacrosse forum. What's your problem?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any results in yet at the Hill? Is there a web site to follow


Pretty even playing field which was the objective. Legacy over Hawks, 91 MD over Sons, FCA over Express, Legacy over Mesa,Express over Sons, 91 MD over FCA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:29 PM
Express has taken two steps back this year .... GO MD !!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2020-8th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15