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The Crabs' behavior this weekend may have created a lot of Team 91 fans in Maryland!

Lets hope that more tournaments do a combo age and grade like Denver is doing. The age can be generous enough but will still weed out the cheaters who are a full year or two older.

It's funny that when their kids lose, some parents have to post anonymously and accuse others of cheating.

There is not one kid on the Breakers 2020AA team that is a holdback. They have 4 or 5 that were born in July and August but they are all legitimate 2020s who have not been left back or held back and managed to tie Crabs losing in OT during the playoff. They would have lost to Crush but Crush should have been the winner anyhow. Before you paint broadly check your facts and if you still doubt it, contact their coach for their report cards for 2014/2015 school year and preceding years.

FCA does not hold kids back like crabs and breakers. They follow the rules and are competitive doing so!!

Wrong. Many kids on the FCA high school teams repeated a grade. Look beyond your own bubble before making a statement like that.

Crabs doesn't hold kids back. The parents do. Then they take their kids to Crabs tryouts.

Amazing isn't it? Sure that's a fun household.

Can you clarify, is that born in July and August 2001 or 2002?

"FCA does not hold kids back like crabs and breakers. They follow the rules and are competitive doing so!!"

yes they do, I know several who play FCA and are hold backs.

"There is not one kid on the Breakers 2020AA team that is a holdback. They have 4 or 5 that were born in July and August but they are all legitimate 2020s who have not been left back or held back and managed to tie Crabs losing in OT during the playoff. They would have lost to Crush but Crush should have been the winner anyhow. Before you paint broadly check your facts and if you still doubt it, contact their coach for their report cards for 2014/2015 school year and preceding years."

July and August of 2001? If so, they should be 8th graders...2019 team! If they are on 2020, then they would be 7th graders, born after September 1, 2001.

United and 3D were supposedly marquee names and they are struggling or have thrown in the towel.

Perhaps but bringing kids to a 7th grade tournament who one week ago were sitting in an 8th grade classroom has everything to do with the Crabs and nothing to do with the parents.

this is no different than what happened to the 2019s last year and the 2018s the year before

the team stuff is less significant wait until you start sending your 2020 to individual showcases based on graduation year and realize he is competing with kids 2 years older than him.

a 2020 with a late 2002 birthday will likely be competing against players with a few late 2000 birthdays given the combo of earlier school cutoff found elsewhere in the country and reclassification

Wait, your son is afraid to play with kids his own age and we're ignorant? That's funny...

FCA also brings kids down from their 2019 team to play 2020 during tournaments. THey also bring some down to win key league play games. Not a secret.

91 does not have hold backs? That is a laugh, they are graduation based not age based.

So everyone is OK with this? You Can call your kid any inappropriate name on here and it will get posted? Thanks for dialing it back for strangers on line. You must be great at home and on the sidelines once you get comfortable with people!!

The kids that they bring down are age appropriate but they just play up to get better. They did not play in beach lax they only played in their one fall tournament

Have been in all three programs and they all have holdbacks!

There is not one kid on the Breakers 2020AA team that is a holdback. They have 4 or 5 that were born in July and August but they are all legitimate 2020s who have not been left back or held back and managed to tie Crabs losing in OT during the playoff. They would have lost to Crush but Crush should have been the winner anyhow. Before you paint broadly check your facts and if you still doubt it, contact their coach for their report cards for 2014/2015 school year and preceding years. [/quote]

Am I the only one that thinks it's a little bizarre that the coach would have the kid's report cards in middle school.

91 won 4 out of 10 divisions that they entered teams in. Would have been 5 of 10 if the Crush would have pulled it out. But 4 out of 10 not bad. Even the true lacrosse fans of MD. Can appreciate that percentage . It was a great weekend on nice fields. Thanks for having us

I am sure they are talking July/August of 2001. I would bet the vast majority of top 2020 teams have a good portion of their team born between June 2001-December 2001. The cutoff for Denver is May 2001. There is a reason the tournament directors moved it back. (I believe it started out as a sept 2001 cutoff, but too many teams said they wouldn't come with that date because they would have to leave multiple players home)
I would be very interested to see the percentages of 2001 and 2002 birthdates on 2020 teams. I would also wonder if any team now has kids with 2000 birthdates.

Don't forget looneys, Hawks, club blue. They too have at least 6 hold backs

Let's not act like MD is the only state with holdbacks. They are everywhere!

Am I the only one that thinks it's a little bizarre that the coach would have the kid's report cards in middle school.[/quote]

No I do not find it bizarre, I know of a few coaches in various sports, including a private strength trainer, that asks to see MS kids report cards to make sure they are staying on top of their grades. I find it very respectable and wish more would do so.

I actually chuckled at that, no different than referring to your kid (jokingly) as a knucklehead, or whatever. I bet that guy has a great relationship with his kid.

Don't remember the specifics but Maryland changed the age requirements when the kids born in 2001 were entering kindergarten, as a result there are some kids with summer birthdays who are in the appropriate grade (7th) per the Board of Ed.

I would love to see an aged baded tourney (u15, 14, 13...) with a 9/1 cut off. That would be fun to witness.

And thank you for joining us. If you guys hadn't shown up what else would we have to talk about on the Crabs forum!

Not affiliated with any of these clubs, but you whiners are pathetic. It's youth sports. Who cares who wins some random tournament? It's about having fun and getting better.

If one club violates the rules, the tournament will disqualify them. If the Crabs had 2020 kids who had previous played up on 2019 and/or they have kids repeating 8th grade, that's not a violation of the rules.

Reclassification happens in all sports: basketball, football, hockey, baseball, etc.

Get over it. Man, when your son gets his butt kicked in HS by older kids, are you going to make the same complaints? LOL.

OMG. That is hilarious. Epic fail by that dad.

Not affiliated with any of these clubs, but you whiners are pathetic. It's youth sports. Who cares who wins some random tournament? It's about having fun and getting better.

If one club violates the rules, the tournament will disqualify them. If the Crabs had 2020 kids who had previous played up on 2019 and/or they have kids repeating 8th grade, that's not a violation of the rules.

Reclassification happens in all sports: basketball, football, hockey, baseball, etc.

Get over it. Man, when your son gets his butt kicked in HS by older kids, are you going to make the same complaints? LOL.

HS sports are different then youth sports. going by your argument, we should just have age groups based on four years rather than 1 or 2 years. my kids have played Hockey, football, baseball, soccer and basketball along with lacrosse. None of those sports are all over the place with age groups as lacrosse is. Is USA Lacrosse wants to be taken seriously, they need to address this.

It's called the U-15 Championship. Birth certificates needed.

Obviously you are a one tough guy and dont have time for the debate of YOUTH age base teams vs YOUTH grade based teams.

They had kids just who just completed 8th grade and played this season as 2019s playing on a 7th grade team. The fact that they are starting 8th grade again does not erase the fact that they were 2019s last year.

Everyone is aware of what happens in high school, this has been discussed often here. By then the physical disparities have evened out and there is a reason why they have JV.

Because it's just idiot dads arguing about something that is meaningless.

Nope, won't complain then. But why do you have to be a cheating loser when many boys have not hit puberty yet? Don't worry we will be Crackin Crabs in the future and all your scheming will amount to a waste of money and time inflicted on your sons, who will fall behind in the long run. Hope you enjoy your scam of a win, won't last!

If it's so meaningless as you say then why would a club apparently move older kids down to a younger team just to win?
As reported there are parents who speak openly about the practice. I'm confused at your opinion and comments because the apparent actions of this club would dictate otherwise.