Not from bums or elevate but have played both several times in a few different age groups. Elevate is head and shoulders above bums. Won't go as far as to say the organization will fold, they seem to host a tournament that fits the bill for many YJ younger teams to play in without traveling off the island. I'm sure this is a money maker for the director of bums. If CR were to ever pull the plug on tourny, they would disappear instantly. | 
