We can beat this horse to death but hers is the bottom line ....the top players in their respective on age group re starters and don't reclass . The only kids that reclass are kids that are not getting playing time . Simple as that . But it will all catch up to you because if your son is now getting on the field after reclassing he will not as soon as he's back on age after this year
An overwhelming majority of top level D1 players both current and past either reclassed or did a PG year. Brennan O’Neil is one notable exception.
I can imagine all of the research that is behind that statement. Lmao. The fact is, Long Island is one of the two biggest hotbeds in lacrosse. Long Island is obviously represented as much or more than any other region, when it comes to top D1 lacrosse college programs. I can’t imagine that’s arguable for anyone. It’s well known that most players from LI don’t reclass, simply because most players from LI are public school kids.
There are no boarding schools on LI.
The only exceptions to this are Express/St A’s/Chaminade kids. Some of those kids reclass, but still, reclass even there is the exception and not the rule. I know alot of kids that have gone there, and not one has reclassed.
So take a look at the long list of kids from the island on every top D1 program. If a public school is after his name then he’s not a reclass. And that accounts for 95% of the LI kids out there.
In short. You’re wrong! As a holdback parent, you’d like to think that, but reality is far different.
I know this is a foreign concept to holdback parents from MD where every single kid reclasses. It’s the culture. It’s not the culture on LI. Almost no one does it.
And there’s no need to do it. Club directors tell MD parents when their kid is 13 that they have to reclass to “stay elite” (ie he’s not very good). During the puberty years, this is a huge advantage. But when kids are 15, 16 and 17 the advantage is long gone. Without the size advantage, the reclass kid is exposed for what he always was. A subpar lacrosse player.
The only reason why there are reclass kids from MD on D1 rosters is because literally every single kid in MD is a reclass.
So do some research. Look at the rosters. LI public school listed = not reclassed = 95% of all LI players on D1 rosters.
Ok Mr Make Stuff Up, I did some research and you may be right but that's based on 95% of nothing is pretty much nothing.
- Princeton (even on LI you may agree this is a good lacrosse school with a half decent education.) 22 recruits in the 23 and 24 classes, 2 are from LI. One is a FOGO.
- Duke, another decent school with a lacrosse team, 15 recruits across 23 and 24, again 2 from LI.
- Maryland, 17 recruits in 23/24 classes with 0 from LI.
- Syracuse with 21 recruits in 23/24 has 4 from LI.
- Bucknell 23 recruits in both classes with 0 from LI
- Villanova 20 recruits in both classes with 1 from LI
- LIU, which looks like a good target school for you, has 12 of 27 recruits acorss the two classes from LI
SImply put, LI isnt getting on to top D1 rosters en masse anymore. This quick sample size clearly pointed out that LI is by far the least represented of all traditional lacrosse hotbeds and may be the least represented region altogether. California and Texas both have more on each roster while the difference between Westchester, MD, Mass and mid west vs LI isnt even worth diving in to. LI simply doesnt place large numbers in to TOP programs anymore. So youre all on age and thats awesome until college coaches come looking.. GO DOLPHINS![/quote]
Slow day at work so I took your advice and did some more research. It turns out that no research backs up any of your blustery opinions.
- Notre Dame- 19 recruits in 23 and 24, 1 from LI
- Cornell- 25 recruits in 23 and 24, 3 from LI, 1 is a Fogo (LI FOGOs are all over D1 rosters.)
- UNC- 21 recruits in 23 and 24, 2 from LI (both private)
- Princeton 22 recruits in the 23 and 24 classes, 2 are from LI. One is a FOGO.
- Duke, 15 recruits across 23 and 24, again 2 from LI.
- Maryland, 17 recruits in 23/24 classes with 0 from LI.
- Syracuse with 21 recruits in 23/24 has 4 from LI.
- Bucknell 23 recruits in both classes with 0 from LI
- Villanova 20 recruits in both classes with 1 from LI
Looking at this sample size of top D1 teams/schools (removing LIU)
- 183 commited players in the 2023 and 2024 classes listed on insidelacrosse for these teams which are all pretty much
- 15 total are from LI
- 5 are from private
- 2 are fogos
- 8 total players from LI public listed as committed to these top teams.
In short, there may be now but there def will not be in the very near future, a "long list of kids from the island on every top D1 program." There certainly isnt even a short list of kids from public on LI. Tell yourself whatever you want about doing it right but it doesnt translate to actual facts. LI is not a hotbed of lacrosse anymore. May be down to reclassing but facts are facts.
The hammer blow- Hostra- 19 commits 1 from LI. Even your Pride wont take you.
Go Dolphins!!!![/quote]
Yeah the data doesn't lie. The top programs don't take many from public schools without a PG. Rare exception. Spallina and Macadorey both reclass. Props to Oneill but he is a generational talent. Manhasset and GC probably produce the most on age kids.
