Exactly, when you have in state schools like MD, Florida, Penn State, Stony Brook , UVA, UMASS, UNC the amount of applicants are astronomical. Yes, they have a lot of students enrolled , but nearly every in state kid applies. Still great educations that I see no reason to knock because your Sally goes to Penn, Princeton, or Duke. Like I said earlier, I'd be thrilled if my daughter was able to get an education from one of those state schools while having the opportunity to have a competitive lax career. Not sure why people have to always "one up" one another here.