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WSYL schedules up. What are peoples thoughts?
I think that most people are not thrilled to go. Even though we qualified most people I have spoken with question having to give up an entire week of work and the expenses related to an average tournament in DC. We did it in Denver for my oldest in the first ever year and it was a great experience, although outrageously expensive. This year some very non competitive local teams made it and the power programs are not attending due to age.

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WSYL schedules up. What are peoples thoughts?
I think that most people are not thrilled to go. Even though we qualified most people I have spoken with question having to give up an entire week of work and the expenses related to an average tournament in DC. We did it in Denver for my oldest in the first ever year and it was a great experience, although outrageously expensive. This year some very non competitive local teams made it and the power programs are not attending due to age.
The age reason is legit and was a tough decision for some. Many of the non-attending teams could field great on age squads, but you don't want to break up training for grade based programs for one tourney that people don't care much about. My son is on age, but 5 on his teammates are not (4 august and one july bday...4 stared kindergarten late and one repeated K) so his squad is not attending. They could have easily brought up 5 kids from the 26s and not lost anything talent-wise but then you mess up practices for all the other summer tourneys as you need those kids to play in qualifiers and a couple other tourneys before WSYL.

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The age reason is legit and was a tough decision for some. Many of the non-attending teams could field great on age squads, but you don't want to break up training for grade based programs for one tourney that people don't care much about. My son is on age, but 5 on his teammates are not (4 august and one july bday...4 stared kindergarten late and one repeated K) so his squad is not attending. They could have easily brought up 5 kids from the 26s and not lost anything talent-wise but then you mess up practices for all the other summer tourneys as you need those kids to play in qualifiers and a couple other tourneys before WSYL.

Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.

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Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.
If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

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Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.
If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

It’s “lightly regarded” because your team is not participating? This definitely one of top 3-4 tournaments this year.

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The tournament is just like any other except it costs you 4x as much. Wake up and stop choking on the WYSL Koolaide. Hope all of the laxaholics enjoy it because this will be the last year anyway. 5-6 hr drive is "within driving distance"....Ok buddy! 2 hrs is driving distance. Enjoy your 12 hr roundtrip drive vs 4 hrs of lacrosse and a picture they wil upcharge you for. Clowns!

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It’s “lightly regarded” because your team is not participating? This definitely one of top 3-4 tournaments this year.
That could be part of it, but I think it has more to do with it only being a single age group or 2 age groups for 2021. Much more exciting to be at a larger tourney where there are top teams, but also get to cheer on other ages from your club, hang out with them before and after games etc. They try and hype it up a lot with regional qualifiers, but every decent team qualifies and it loses even more luster when you have teams dropping out and others added without even qualifying. Many tournaments can be described as a money grab, but this takes it to the extreme imo.

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What teams this year didn't qualify that are going?

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What teams this year didn't qualify that are going?

Do Regulators or Rebels ring a bell??

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Regulators actually did qualify...like it or not... You may not agree with the brackets but they did technically qualify. Rebels isnt even on the North Qualifier link that shows advancing teams. You sure they are in?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.com/qualifiers/north-regional-qualifier/

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Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.
If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

If your team could field a competitive on-age team they would be there. The teams that miss this tournament are giving themselves away - they are relying on over-age kids and are far less competitive if they have to field a verified age-eligible team.

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Regulators actually did qualify...like it or not... You may not agree with the brackets but they did technically qualify. Rebels isnt even on the North Qualifier link that shows advancing teams. You sure they are in?


https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.com/qualifiers/north-regional-qualifier/
Yes they are. Not every logo is represented in the language. Read it over again.

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How did that happen? They got rolled at the qualifiers. WSYL lets anyone in? What is the purpose of a qualifier then? That is such a bad look for the event and for the team(s) that got the "Need to fill slots" invitations.

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Rolled / Rebels 3-2 Regulators1-4 just leave it alone

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Day 1 ? When it mattered? What did they do then?

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REBELS REBELS REBELS Watch Out haters

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Please, the Rebels need to write a nice letter to the Canadian prime minister for locking the boarders and holding the 2 Canadian teams home for the WSYL and giving the Rebels their roster spot. Rebels went 1-2 in the qualifier day one which determined them out of the WSYL but later got in as a space filler, cheers.

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Lets revisit this next week.
REBELS REBELS REBELS
By the way they Fundraised and Rebels Paid for any remaining Costs
Class Act
Can I say it again
REBELS REBELS REBELS

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Lets revisit this next week.
REBELS REBELS REBELS
By the way they Fundraised and Rebels Paid for any remaining Costs
Class Act
Can I say it again
REBELS REBELS REBELS

It's like jeopardy. I know what the question is: who lost in the last 3 regulators vs rebels games? rebels rebels rebels

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That’s funny / regulators = cheaters

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Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

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Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

Rebels 25s have the best group of parents.

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has anyone seen the laxachusetts 2025 team? do not see that team losing a game. by far the best 2025 out there

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Rebels looked good this weekend against Older B teams on Day 1. But when it counted most, they fell apart. Coaches too busy jawing with Refs and they used the same kids over and over in the final. That may work against weak B teams but not good ones. If they go into WSYL with that same mindset & gameplan they come home winless... print it.

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Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

Rebels 25s have the best group of parents.

You must be one of them.

OR you mean they are the best of all the Rebels parents.

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The parents were fine. We spoke to a Mom who told us "They never win" The honesty was brutally refreshing but odd. Another dad was pretty cool. Didn't say much. Every team has a few screwballs tho

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That’s funny / regulators = cheaters
How are regulators cheaters?

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has anyone seen the laxachusetts 2025 team? do not see that team losing a game. by far the best 2025 out there

Nope, they took out Shock in the NLF.

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Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

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Same as Laxachusetts every grade year - they're so old they dominate until everyone else hits puberty and then they're middle of the pack after that.

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Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

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Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels


Heard MB bough all the kids new helmets… true?

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They didn’t cheat was the point.

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Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

Call it what you want, it doesn’t change the fact that these kids are going to have an awesome experience competing against other great age based teams around the country.

Best of luck Rebels and Regulators and to all the teams in the tournament.

Looking forward to watching all these boys play great lacrosse in a very challenging time.

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Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

If the tourney needed 24 teams and rounded it out by offering at large spots, which I think is this the case here, why does anybody care? Just go enjoy the next few days with son.

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It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

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It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

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It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

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It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

Wow. That's about the most cynical thing I've seen here in months.

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Cynical, but true. Clubs will promote their brand anyway they can, it’s a business. Most of these clubs care about a few kids.

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